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Nice shirt man, fuel for life. 
I wear that the other day. 

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Probably not this one, probably 
your own. 

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What size is that XL? 
It may have been that when I 

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wear an XL in that design. 
Snuck in your closet? 

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And I took it off my hanger this
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Yeah, I put it back that you 
noticing good. 

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That's why it stinks. 
Yeah, I was thinking because I 

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just got done working out and 
I'm still wearing my workout 

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shirt. 
Little What is this? 

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Not a big deal when you work 
for. 

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Yourself White Oak Pastures. 
I know we have a shower now and 

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I'm taking advantage. 
That's true. 

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So I want to stink for my 
employees. 

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It's all good. 
We're used to it smells like you

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to break in here. 
That's true. 

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It smells like we're working in 
a chocolate. 

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Factory that's true like. 
Willy Wonka. 

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It's pretty cool. 
I had some. 

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I had a client who I haven't met
in person yet. 

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She came in on Sunday 'cause she
was dropping off her grandson in

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Little Rock and they were 
driving back home and had to go 

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through Fayetteville. 
I'm like, well, shoot, I'm just 

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outside of Fayetteville. 
You had to swing by him. 

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So her and her husband came by 
him. 

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She signed the wall. 
I gave him a tour of everything 

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and talked to him about 
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probably about an hour or so. 
It was cool. 

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Because like her husband is like
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building on the outside. 
And then you walk in, you got, 

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you know, the podcast, the gym, 
the commercial kitchen, all this

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stuff. 
Pretty cool, so. 

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Gave him a bunch of bricks. 
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to compound that to me is what 
it's all about. 

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Like I like working with clients
remotely because I can interact 

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with. 
People all over the world. 

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When I get to meet him in person
and like they can actually put a

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face to a name and just becomes 
more tangible. 

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That's exactly How I Met you, 
remember? 

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I tracked you down in Omaha. 
That's the first we had been. 

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You'd been coaching me for a 
while remotely. 

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Yeah. 
We've talked and chatted and 

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stuff. 
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we met, when you walked up to me
it's like I didn't even 

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recognize like. 
You said that you're like, holy 

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cow man, I'll barely recognize 
because my face was so lean. 

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Yeah. 
It was in prep. 

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And I didn't know you were 
coming to that show. 

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So, like, didn't have that 
context in the back of my mind 

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of like, OK, I'm expecting to 
meet Greg. 

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He just, like, popped out of 
nowhere. 

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That's pretty cool. 
Just. 

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Drove down? 
What year was that? 

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That was 20. 
It wasn't called hard to kill. 

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It was called Keto Summit Omaha.
Yeah, that. 

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Was the first year I went to. 
It 29th I forget I don't 

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remember. 
I think it maybe in 2019 might 

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have been. 
My first actual no 'cause I was 

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in Prep in 21. 
Maybe 2020 then might. 

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Have been 2020. 
So you and I have got a five 

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year anniversary coming up. 
You still wearing your ring? 

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No. 
No, you got me tattooed on your 

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leg though. 
That's true. 

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Stands for something. 
Yeah, that probably won't come 

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off too easy. 
Yeah, well, you just got back 

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from a competition, man. 
You spent the weekend in 

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Wisconsin at the. 
Clair, Wisconsin. 

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Clair, Wisconsin. 
Give me the. 

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Details, man. 
So you left here Wednesday 

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night. 
Give. 

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Me, the play by play. 
From the moment I last saw you 

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on Wednesday to today. 
Was it Wednesday night or 

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Tuesday? 
Night, thank you. 

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Left Wednesday night. 
I forget. 

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And you drove halfway. 
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it's it's like 11-12 hour 
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It's 800 miles or whatever. 
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reason I wanted to do this show 
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promoters. 
They're absolutely amazing 

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people. 
Was one of them the the guy that

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kept tagging me in keto brick? 
Coach. 

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That was your buddy, right 
Coach? 

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Coach Gary. 
Coach Boris. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, he was with me. 

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He was my, he's my best buddy 
from Minnesota. 

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So he came over to the 
competition just to be there and

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stay in the room with me and 
everything. 

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But I know the promoters. 
I've known him for several 

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years. 
They're absolutely amazing 

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people. 
They're gym owners right there 

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in Eau Claire. 
She is a world renowned 

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competitor, natural athlete. 
She actually flew to Japan and 

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competed on behalf of the United
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So she's done some remarkable 
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She has smoked a ton of non 
natural athletes so she is very 

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highly regarded. 
Anyways, they have a show that 

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they have been running for 
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Wisconsin Warrior. 
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It's natural. 
That's in Eau Claire, WI and I, 

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since I lived in northern 
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actually had the opportunity to 
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show, expediting athletes, 
helping set up, tear down 

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registration, all the things 
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weekend several years in a row. 
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a really super well run show. 
The venue is top notch. 

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It's a performing arts theatre 
much like ours is going to be. 

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So the audio was dialed in like 
the sound system is insane. 

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The lighting is top notch, the 
seating, the stage, all the 

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backstage amenities, everything 
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it to be as an athlete and being
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I was like, OK, if I ever have 
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on this stage as a competitor, I
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So it just so happened that your
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going to have me in prep for 
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What if we started my prep a 
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of weaseled this one into my 
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So this one is still what 12 
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yours. 
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in to some extent, not like full
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wanted to save that for in 11 
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So that's where how I ended up 
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It's very well run 
orchestration. 

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The event is all the fine 
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It ran perfectly without a 
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I'm sure there were some little 
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of us as competitors saw, but 
they were on time. 

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The tanning was perfect. 
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schedule. 
Everything that could go right 

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went right like. 
Awesome it was. 

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It was awesome. 
So I competed as a Classic 

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Physique Masters 40 plus you're.
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I was the only one registered 
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But I thought, you know what? 
I'm 40 plus, why not do it? 

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I'm already going to be on stage
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So I did the 40 plus. 
I was the only registrant, so I 

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obviously swept that one. 
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and the open class had 17. 
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whatever registered competitors,
and they end up splitting that 

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one into an A and ABI went out 
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guys, and I took home 4th place 
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I could tell that, and it may 
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stage a little bit later than I 
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It was like 2:30-ish. 
It's pretty late. 

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Yeah, it's pretty late. 
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much right before bed the night 
before, which is 9930, got up in

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the morning, did kind of the 
morning protocol, but I was not 

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consuming a lot of water. 
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some that may be something that 
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because on stage it was hard for
me to keep my legs going, just 

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keeping them flexed. 
And we've done a lot of posing 

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practice here. 
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We've done all the quarter turns
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But when you're on stage against
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pretty freaking dialed in with. 
The stage lights hit. 

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Stage. 
Lights and the judging panel was

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9 judges. 
This is one of the biggest round

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and they hold you out there and 
they juggle the athletes or the 

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competitors around, you know, 
like we want 2 of you guys to 

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spot places. 
We want to see you against you. 

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And you know, maybe the judge on
the end of the table can't quite

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get a good view, so they're 
going to move you down over 

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there. 
You know how it goes. 

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And another round of quarter 
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turns, another round of quarter 
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And my, my legs were starting to
shake like I just could not keep

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them contracted. 
And I bumped into a well, 

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several people at the after 
party get together and they're 

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like, man, you looked really 
good. 

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It looked like your legs. 
You were having a hard time 

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keeping your legs involved. 
Keeping your legs, you know, 

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were. 
They actually quivering. 

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They were. 
Quivering, yeah, like I could, I

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could feel them and see them 
shaking and like, Dang, we, we 

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either needed to work on longer 
holds or maybe maybe we needed a

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little bit more hydration, a 
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intake. 
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super good. 
I didn't have any necessarily 

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any cramping. 
I was just having a hard time 

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keeping them contracted and that
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electrolytes, that kind of 
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So anyways, the the event itself
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It was incredibly fun. 
I opted for the upgraded photo 

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package. 
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competition, Friday morning, I 
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shoot and we picked several 
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downtown Eau Claire. 
We went to their host gym that 

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they own the, the promoters own 
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We got some awesome photography 
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We went outside, we did a whole 
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because the venue and the host 
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and then the host hotel is 1 
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then the after party was one 
block across the street so you 

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could walk everywhere. 
You leave the car parked. 

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It's a super nice setup. 
We got a whole bunch of 

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photography. 
We did some like street shots in

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the alley. 
Part of what I did for the photo

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shoot and for my routine was I 
brought my mullet wig that you 

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guys have seen. 
I think you could totally pull 

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it off man. 
I think it's like super good 

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with the mustache. 
I know everyone's like, is that 

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real? 
Is that real? 

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No, like there was a ton of 
people walking around downtown 

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Eau Claire 'cause it's kind of 
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It's a nice little downtown area
and there's people like looking 

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and stopping. 
And I'm like, I'm like, no, it's

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not real. 
And I'm like, oh, OK, 'cause I 

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could tell they were like, you 
know, trying to figure it out. 

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So I did a whole bunch of fun 
photos with that get up. 

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Even brought a keto brick. 
We got some pretty sweet keto 

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brick branded content. 
With you in the mullet, yes. 

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All right, Yeah, it's like 
American flag. 

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That'll be our new ad. 
Yep. 

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It's going to be Made in America
kind of thing, kind of like 

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that's the theme. 
And then when I went on stage, 

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did the comparison rounds and as
soon as we were done with that, 

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I went back and I threw some 
striped shorts on and the mullet

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and some shades. 
And it came out and did my 

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posing routine in that outfit. 
And it was pretty funny. 

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It was, it was really cool. 
A lot of people backstage were 

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like, man, that's, that's 
hilarious. 

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Da da da da da, you know, like 
why doesn't anybody else like 

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dress up or add any fun flair or
accessories or. 

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Components. 
So that was like the really the 

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gist of the whole weekend was I 
got to be on stage, kind of got 

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my feet wet. 
I haven't been on stage since 

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last prep. 
Did some posing, did some 

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competitiveness, but really just
had a really good time with a 

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lot of people. 
And I think anybody who does 

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their first show, the nerves are
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Like you're anxious. 
I could tell there was a whole 

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bunch of brand new competitors 
backstage. 

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They didn't know. 
They just they just you could 

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just tell they just weren't 
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They didn't know what to do with
like pumping up. 

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They didn't know what to do with
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or how to put their button on. 
They were just dripping sweat 

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like their tan was terrible. 
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that guy backstage, like 
watching all the seasoned 

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competitors and they're just 
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You know, they got their earbuds
in or they're laying on their 

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back and they have their feet 
elevated and they're like chill 

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as can be. 
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that are the newbies in there, 
you know, they keep looking in 

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the mirror, they keep trying 
their poses. 

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They're like trying to remember 
what they're going to do. 

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And so I was trying to kind of 
offer that fun, don't stress 

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about it kind of vibe to all 
those guys. 

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And I think it rubbed off a lot 
because they're just, they were 

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just, you know, like less 
stressed and were just less 

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anxious and worked up over it 
so. 

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That's cool, man. 
It's cool when like you've 

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reached the upper echelon to the
point where you are the seasoned

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competitor and you could just 
impart some words of wisdom to 

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people knew in the sport, 'cause
my my first show too, man. 

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I remember being like super 
anxious, super nervous, like 

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almost talking myself off of 
competing the day before. 

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Yeah, you're almost to the point
where you're just like, I don't 

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know if I can do this. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's like, and then like this 
last prep I did, I mean the, I 

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think chips got footage of me 
like falling asleep in the pump 

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up room just like totally chill.
I was reading a Indian book, you

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know, like a Native American 
history book 1 one go around. 

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It's like I'm just chill, cool 
as a cucumber. 

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And I guess what you want it to 
be because if you're super 

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stressed, like you're going to 
work up yourself, you're going 

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to like, you're going to have 
all this anxiety. 

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It's going to dump all that 
adrenaline and you're not going 

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to be able to hold that 
contraction. 

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You're going to start, you know,
shaking your hands, going to 

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start rubbing. 
It's just not a good look. 

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And it like the judges can tell,
you know. 

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Oh yeah, they can tell. 
And I remember even my like one 

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of my first shows, I had a 
routine that I was going to do. 

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I think it was like a tea 
Walker, Elle Walker, Jay Walker,

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whatever. 
It was men's physique. 

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And I got out there in front of 
all the lighting and I heard 

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people like hollering and, you 
know, the judging table was 

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there and everything. 
And I just completely forgot 

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everything that I had practiced.
And this past weekend, it was 

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just like once I once the music 
started, it was just like 

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turning the switch on. 
And it was, it was, it was fun. 

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You feel pretty good about like 
apart from your your legs 

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shaking a little bit, like your 
execution of the poses and your 

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routine. 
I do pretty good about it. 

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And that's probably the heaviest
I've ever been on stage. 

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I was like 19191 on stage. 
My in body had me at like 6 

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between 6:00 and 7:00. 
I know the in body is not 100% 

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accurate, but that's the lowest 
I've been all prep. 

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I know I've got some size in my 
legs since last prep so I know 

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that there's some mass and 
weight there beneath the trunk 

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and I felt really good. 
I don't think there was anything

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that I felt needed to be changed
except just being able to keep 

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the legs rocking. 
And then you're after a party 

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meal, unlike everybody else 
where they're slamming pizzas, 

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you're eating chicken wings and.
I did have some pizza toppings. 

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Pizza. 
Toppings, scripted topping 

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stuff, Smash. 
Burger had an awesome smash 

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burger with some Brussels and 
that's all we needed. 

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Gary, my best buddy, he had it's
some ice cream. 

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I don't know if that was 
yesterday or the that same day 

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or the day after, but and then 
we're both back on track like we

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both the next morning we went 
for a couple hour walk. 

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No, he's I'm trying to get him. 
He he would rock the show really

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well if he ever decided he was 
going to compete. 

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So I keep planting the seed and 
I got to bring him backstage, 

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showed him all the insurance and
outs of the the tanning, the 

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backstage competitor area, the 
pump up area, like the tanning 

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touch ups. 
One of the cool things about 

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this show also is they've got 
all the athletes backstage in 

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one big open conference room and
they have the competition live 

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streamed up onto the screen. 
So you can watch the entire 

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thing from backstage. 
There's a whole bunch of 

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athletes laying down. 
We even saw some bikini 

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competitors that brought their 
own air mattress. 

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Nice. 
He's not like that's like top. 

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Tier so there's like people just
like hanging out watching up on 

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the big projection screen and 
then they they know where 

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they're at in the running 
format. 

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But yeah, I got to bring him 
backstage. 

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He saw all that. 
He's like, wow, this is super 

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cool cuz he's been to shows 
before, but he's never been able

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to see behind the curtain. 
And we got to go back behind the

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actual stage, walked out onto 
the stage so you can see, like, 

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all the stage lighting. 
And it's really neat. 

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Like once you do your first 
show, all those things are no 

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longer anxiety producer. 
Yeah. 

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Because you're just like, OK, 
this is how it works. 

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This is where you go. 
This is why I always recommend 

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people that are competing for 
the first time and do more than 

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one show in the same season. 
Like, have them close together 

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ideally, so you're not like, you
know, prolonging your prep any 

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more than necessary. 
But if you can like, have one 

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show to get all those nerves 
out, Yep, you're gonna look way 

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better the second show. 
Absolutely. 

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You're gonna be so much less 
nervous. 

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Yeah. 
And if you can do that during 

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your same prep instead of 
waiting until the next prep, 

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it's Yeah, the first one is. 
Everyone has to overcome the 

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first one. 
Yeah, like there's no way. 

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Around it, if you do it in the 
same prep, then you can end that

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prep on a positive note now that
your first show wouldn't be 

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positive because a lot of people
as soon as the show's over, they

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feel like, oh, I'm ready to do 
this again. 

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But like, if you do 2 shows, 
you're pretty much ensuring that

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OK, you're going to leave it on 
the positive note for that 

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season and then the next time 
you go into a season you're 

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you're more motivated to do it 
the right way and just have the 

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conference to do so the right 
way. 

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Yeah, yeah, you're making me get
the itch you get, man. 

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It's fun. 
It is it, It makes all like the 

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the feelings of I'm tired, I'm 
hungry, I'm cold, I'm irritable.

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Once you get there, then you're 
just like, oh this is awesome. 

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It's great. 
Like you don't really, I mean, 

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you think about food at all 
times, but like when you're 

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competing, like you're not 
really thinking about food, like

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you're in the zone and that's 
all the work that you put in. 

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That's that moment because. 
You're not going to do anything 

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that's gonna change the outcome 
that day or even the several 

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days beforehand. 
And like, that's your freaking 

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battlefront. 
Like that is your war zone, you 

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know? 
So that's. 

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What you've been prepping for? 
Yeah, like this is what it all 

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goes to, and that is and should 
be premier focus number #1 you 

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know, so that's cool. 
And you did a folk trip after. 

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Yeah, did you see that reel I 
posted of of in the little 

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tanning tent? 
Yeah, yeah, shaking it up with 

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the sock. 
So there's a bunch of guys, 

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there's a bunch of like 
volunteers, staff members, 

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competitors, all backstage that 
because I did that the first day

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that they came up to me that I 
don't know them. 

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And they're like, hey man, I saw
you saw you're shaking your ass 

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in the little tanning tent. 
And they just thought it was the

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funniest thing because it was 
actually showing up on like 

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their social media feeds. 
We weren't even friends or 

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followers of each other. 
They're like, Oh yeah, I saw 

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that. 
I saw that. 

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That's hilarious. 
So that was. 

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Pretty for anybody to listen 
that does not know what we're 

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talking about. 
When you are getting your tan 

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done as a guy you you pretty 
much naked. 

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Depending on what class you do, 
yeah, if you're doing, if you're

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doing Classic Physique or 
bodybuilding, you're pretty much

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naked. 
Pretty much, yeah. 

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They won't. 
They don't like to tan you full 

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blown naked. 
You have to wear one of their 

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little disposable thong 
coverings or a sock or a sock. 

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And I had a sock on, just for 
the record. 

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Ankle sock no show. 
Sock, toddler sock. 

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But just for the record, I mean,
like, I'm like I told Gary, I'm 

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like, you can come in here. 
He said he was going to wait out

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in the hall. 
I'm like, no, come on in. 

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You can see how the tanning 
stuff works and everything. 

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And I put the, you know, sock 
covering on and they were 

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tanning me and everything and I 
was just dancing around and he 

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took a video of it. 
So I posted the video, but I put

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a little censored box over it so
you couldn't really see what was

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going on back behind the little 
censored area. 

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I did not. 
I was not naked, just FYI. 

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So. 
He had a son out there. 

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Yeah, float trip. 
So one of the cool things that 

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they do is they invite any of 
the competitors with a + 1 if 

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they want to go float down the 
Chippewa River the next day. 

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Is it like right out there 
easily accessible too from the 

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venue and everything? 
Not from the venue, no. 

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We had to drive like 20 minutes 
from the hotel and you just pop 

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into this place called Loopy's. 
It's right there on the river 

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and we think we had probably 15 
or 16 of us or so. 

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And they cover the cost of all 
the tube rentals and cooler tube

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rentals. 
So we had a, we had a cooler. 

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We threw like some Zevias in 
there, some teas, energy drinks.

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I had some carnivore snacks, 
just like some snacky type stuff

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just to work through on the way 
down the river. 

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And then they throw you all in a
bus with a trailer on it. 

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They throw the tubes in the 
trailer and they cart you up the

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river. 
It really only takes you like 10

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minutes by vehicle and they drop
you at a landing and then it 

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takes you several hours to float
back down to this place called 

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Loopies. 
Well, 5 minutes into it, we all,

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we all tether together. 
So there's 14 or 16 or whatever 

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tubes all roped together in a 
big circle. 

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So you're all got your feet in 
the middle, All the cooler tubes

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are in the middle. 
And then you can have 

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conversations with everybody 
because you're all floating down

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together, tied together. 5 
minutes into it. 

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We you have to go under a 
bridge, which is I think the 

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road we probably drove in on. 
And there's a big pylon that's 

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holding the bridge up. 
But right where it comes out of 

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the water, there's like a 
concrete pad or something there 

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that had a piece of rebar stuck 
sticking out of it that had been

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bent over. 
Well, typically the current I 

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suppose takes your whole group 
of tubes and sends you around 

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the pylon in One Direction for 
some reason. 

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Our group wanted to go straight 
to the pylon, so half of our 

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tubes were going around to the 
right and half of our tubes were

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going around to the left. 
So we're trying to kick and 

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paddle and everybody's like 
pulling. 

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And in the meantime, my friend 
Gary, of course, his tube goes 

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right over the top of this bent 
over piece of rebar. 

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And I could see it. 
Nobody else saw it happen 

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because he was tied right next 
to me. 

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I could see this happen. 
And everyone's like, Oh yeah, 

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just keep paddling, keep 
paddling. 

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And we were, we were making good
headway. 

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We were actually curving the 
entire group in the right 

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direction. 
So we were good. 

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But I'm I was keeping an eye on 
his. 

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We just hear and there's like 
bubbles shooting out everywhere 

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And sure enough, his tube is 
flat as can be and he it's still

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tied on, but now it's just like 
an anchor because it's like 

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filling with water. 
Luckily they sent us with two 

450
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,000
extra tubes, so he had to throw 
his tube up in into the other 

451
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,200
spare tube and then grab the 
other spare tube and hook it on.

452
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,720
And it was it was funny. 
It was kind of like the laughing

453
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,480
stock of the whole thing because
5 minutes in, Gary pops, yeah, 

454
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000
it's like we're in a river. 
How do you pop YouTube? 

455
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,800
So never a dull moment, man. 
Yeah, it was fun. 

456
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,960
How long was the folk trip? 
Yeah, it was probably 3 hours 

457
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,800
through. 
Nice. 

458
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,000
Three hours or so. 
Yeah, 3/4. 

459
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,200
See, that's, that's pretty cool.
Like I want to figure out 

460
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,760
something like that that we can 
do with our show. 

461
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760
We can get any of the 
competitors that are willing to 

462
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,080
like do something unrelated to 
the competition to just like 

463
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,480
have a camaraderie. 
It was awesome. 

464
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320
Positive vibe scene, you know? 
Yeah, and we all like nobody 

465
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,600
really knew each other outside 
just that group of of floating, 

466
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,400
besides the promoters, of 
course. 

467
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,560
But we got to meet a whole bunch
of other competitors. 

468
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,000
We kind of talked about what 
their goals are like if they're 

469
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,240
going to do any more shows, if 
they have anything on the docket

470
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,200
for next season, just different 
struggles that they've maybe 

471
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,440
encountered or how things went 
for their prep. 

472
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,160
And people of all ages and all 
the classes is really neat 

473
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,680
because you got to like bond and
converse with other competitors.

474
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,280
So are you glad you started your
prep so early in order to fit 

475
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,920
this show in? 
Like, in hindsight, having done 

476
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,480
it now, it's like, is it worth 
all that extra dieting? 

477
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,400
Yeah. 
Good. 

478
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,080
Yeah, cuz I felt pretty good on 
stage. 

479
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,680
Yeah, you look good on stage. 
You look, I'm excited to see you

480
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,520
peaked a little bit later into 
the year, but but you look 

481
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,600
totally, I mean you belonged on 
stage for sure. 

482
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,440
So. 
Good, that makes sense. 

483
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,400
It's fun being on stage. 
You posted some of your initial 

484
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,720
prep photos and your peak week 
photos the other day on social 

485
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,960
and you've come a long way 
already man Like 30 lbs down or 

486
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,160
something crazy. 30 plus pounds 
and 10 plus percent body fat. 

487
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,080
Yeah, pretty well. 
All right. 

488
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,200
What do you think you're going 
to do? 

489
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,640
We'll have to do a whole after 
the season's over in its 

490
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,920
entirety. 
But like, having dieted that 

491
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,640
much and lost that much already,
was still another 10 lbs to go. 

492
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,400
What do you think you're going 
to do offseason this go round? 

493
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Do you think you'll get as 
heavy? 

494
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,640
No, you're not going to do that.
I don't want to no, because at 

495
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,040
the at the very tail end of this
most recent offseason, I was 

496
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,880
pushing my own nutrition just to
just to test the envelope, to 

497
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,720
test the waters and push the 
envelope a little bit. 

498
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,400
So I had days where I was forty 
505,000 calories just because 

499
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,600
just because it was fun to lift 
super heavy. 

500
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,640
It was fun to just eat and I 
definitely didn't need to gain 

501
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,400
that much weight. 
Like two 230 lbs was way too 

502
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,960
much for my stature and my 
frame. 

503
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,320
I was fluffy, fluffier than I 
was comfortable, but I knew that

504
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520
we were going to start prep in 
January. 

505
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,160
So I kind of like it did it on 
purpose. 

506
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,600
It was it was a purposeful 
thing. 

507
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040
Just kind of learn my body and 
see what see what the outcome 

508
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,560
was going to be, you know, 
something that's trackable. 

509
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,560
Now I know next offseason I 
don't need to go that heavy, 

510
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,120
don't need to go that high. 
I don't want to kind of keep the

511
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,080
lean gains leaner. 
Yeah, you know. 

512
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,800
It's easy to justify or I need 
to eat like a freaking animal to

513
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,040
gain more muscle, but like. 
Then you got to just peel it all

514
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:07,560
off. 
Yeah. 

515
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,520
And it's not like you gain that 
much more muscle. 

516
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,280
Like whether you're eating 3500 
calories or 5500 calories, like 

517
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,960
that's a pretty big spread in 
calories. 

518
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,040
It's not going to contribute to 
a significant increase in 

519
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,120
strength or lean tissue, right 
So. 

520
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,760
So if I can hover somewhere 
around like the 200 to 210 mark,

521
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,920
I think it'd be comfortable 
there. 

522
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,920
Yeah, I'm kind of the same 
mindset, man. 

523
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,480
Like I'm like 180 right now and 
I feel like this is a very 

524
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,120
healthy offseason weight for me.
I think the anybody yesterday 

525
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:35,640
made like 14-5, which I think is
pretty healthy body fat for the 

526
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,440
offseason. 
But I mean, like, yeah, when I 

527
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,800
was 200, that's probably like 
you're 230. 

528
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080
Like it's just not necessary. 
Just fluffy. 

529
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Yeah, but you like, I mean, you 
and I both can eat a lot of 

530
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,560
food. 
And I was telling Chip this 

531
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,000
earlier, that's like, I'm in the
full blown off season right now 

532
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040
and I can legitimately eat more 
food. 

533
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,200
But you hear about all these 
body butters, like you watch 

534
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,520
YouTube videos of like the the 
body butters of the early 2000s,

535
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,400
they're just like annoyed with 
how much they're having to eat, 

536
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,080
but they're also on a bunch of 
gears. 

537
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,920
So it's like not even the same 
sport, you know? 

538
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,120
So no need to take it to that 
extreme, but exciting stuff, man

539
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,800
I'm excited. 
Yeah, I'm excited for your show.

540
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,120
That's going to be here in no 
time. 

541
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:17,240
That's about 11 weeks. 
Yeah, 11 weeks, 10 weeks, 11 

542
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,240
weeks, 1010, 1/2 weeks, I guess 
roughly. 

543
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,360
So that'll be good. 
And I'm going to be taking some 

544
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:25,080
notes from this show as to what 
I want to include in my show. 

545
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,760
We can get some more 
competitors, man. 

546
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,920
We got that challenge that's 
still totally open and in 

547
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440
effect, anybody that signs up 
for that part of the tribe, 

548
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,080
there's 5000 cash for the male 
and female winners of that, and 

549
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,880
it corresponds with the show. 
So we just need more 

550
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,240
competitors, you know, the more 
the better. 

551
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Yep, Yep. 
But we'll be, we got some 

552
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,160
awesome sponsors. 
We've got some awesome things in

553
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,000
the works for that. 
We've got a lot of the details 

554
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,240
coming together. 
We're just going to do a little 

555
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,920
push now to get some athletes 
signed up. 

556
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,120
But like you said, a lot of 
people wait. 

557
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,200
Yeah. 
It's not not very good. 

558
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,560
It's not conducive to us being 
able to figure out what kind of 

559
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,120
attendance we're going to have, 
but it's understandable from a 

560
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,800
competitor's point of view to 
some extent. 

561
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Like you're just going to wait 
and see how their prep is going 

562
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,760
before they pull the trigger, 
pull the trigger. 

563
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,160
But I think if you pull the 
trigger, that'll zone you in 

564
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,200
more instead of being half assed
on the fence. 

565
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,160
You're like, all right, this is 
the date. 

566
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,680
This is we need to be ready. 
So exactly. 

567
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,360
So register, Register. 
What else? 

568
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,400
We got new and exciting. 
We just launched Primal Fudge. 

569
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,120
Primal Fudge came back. 
Biggest restock ever. 

570
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,520
Yeah, we still got a bunch of 
inventory. 

571
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,680
That's good. 
We that was the goal we made 

572
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,520
tons, tons, tons. 
Extra tons of these. 

573
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,960
Because we were sick of selling 
out so quickly. 

574
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,080
I mean, we liked, obviously we 
like to sell out and sell the 

575
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,560
product, but we were bumming out
a lot of people that couldn't 

576
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,880
get their hands on any. 
So if you've been dragging your 

577
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,840
feet and getting some primal 
fudge, you still can. 

578
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Yep, Yep. 
We got all those packages sent 

579
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,840
out yesterday, Monday, so that 
feels good to have knocked out. 

580
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520
We got more in inventory, people
that want them. 

581
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,520
We'll be making PB cup today 
actually, so we're gonna have 

582
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,880
more chocolate. 
PB Cup So by the time this goes 

583
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,800
live, PB Cup will be back. 
Yep, Yep. 

584
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,440
So yeah, man, we just got a a 
lot of things in the pipeline 

585
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,080
right now, a lot of things on 
the horizon. 

586
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,560
Crystal's dad's coming into town
today, so he's going to help out

587
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,680
around the house with Hazen and 
Rigel and Crystal and I are 

588
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560
going to record a podcast on 
Friday. 

589
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720
Lots of stuff on the On the 
Horizon ship and I'm going to do

590
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,720
a whole bunch of new media work 
on the course. 

591
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,600
He and I are going to double 
down and do all of our appendix 

592
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,400
videos for all the posing. 
So anybody that's going to be 

593
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,000
competing, whether my show or 
some other show, if you want 

594
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,280
more information on posing 
specifically, we're going to 

595
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,680
have a much more involved 
course, you know, itinerary or 

596
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,960
structured there for all the 
different divisions. 

597
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,720
That'll be good. 
That'll be a good resource 

598
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960
because posing posing's no joke.
People that wait till the last 

599
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,440
minute to pose, they're doing 
themselves a massive disservice 

600
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,320
because like you and I and Ellen
and Ralph who are competing and 

601
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,640
here on site, like every single 
week, we've been doing posing on

602
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,000
the holds, transitions, hitting 
all the mandatories, working on 

603
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000
your routine when you were doing
that. 

604
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,400
And it's like you got to give it
the time it's due. 

605
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Yeah, and and I think the 
announcer even at this past 

606
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,320
competition put it in a good, 
good context is you might not 

607
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,440
have the best physique, but you 
might look like you have the 

608
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,320
best physique. 
If you have your posing dialed 

609
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,960
in, you might slaughter the 
entire other line up against 

610
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,920
people who have a better 
physique but can't pose. 

611
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,840
Yeah, I mean, you could have 
like a ton of size. 

612
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640
And if you got someone that's 
been doing it for 10 years more 

613
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,520
than you, you're probably not 
going to have as much size as 

614
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
them. 
But like, if you can come in 

615
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,760
more condition and if you can 
showcase what you have better 

616
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,920
than they do, the judges are 
going to reward that, you know? 

617
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560
So there's a lot of thing that 
makes the subjective sport. 

618
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240
There's a lot of things that you
have direct control over that 

619
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,240
you don't want to squander, you 
know? 

620
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:58,080
And one last little thought on 
the competition, somebody forgot

621
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120
what they said. 
Somebody messaged me prior to 

622
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,600
the competition and she said you
already won. 

623
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Like meaning look how far you've
come, look at your progress, 

624
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160
look at your transformation, the
weight you've lost, all the hard

625
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,440
things you've done along the 
way. 

626
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,160
You already won. 
So before you even go on stage, 

627
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920
whether your posing is dialed 
in, you have the best physique, 

628
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,880
the worst physique, whatever, 
you probably have already won, 

629
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560
you know, like that's, that's 
kind of how I went into this 

630
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680
weekend is like I already won. 
Like this is like, look at I 

631
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,400
don't care what happens on 
stage. 

632
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,800
Look at my before and my after. 
Like that's incredible. 

633
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440
If I would have done that 
without a competition involved, 

634
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,960
that's impressive. 
So it still is impressive. 100%,

635
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,360
yeah. 
I mean, at the end of the day, 

636
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,680
like you can't dictate what the 
judges are going to come up with

637
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720
on the scorecard. 
But if you can know with 100% 

638
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,880
certainty that you've put in all
the work that you possibly can 

639
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600
and you've left no stone 
unturned and you've got no 

640
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,640
regrets, then stand up there 
with confidence and be proud of 

641
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,720
yourself 'cause I mean, that is,
that is the key thing. 

642
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280
It's a battle against yourself. 
And it's like some of the first 

643
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,320
time competitors, they may not 
look like, I shouldn't say this,

644
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,120
They they may not look like they
belong on stage. 

645
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,080
They may not feel like they 
belong on stage when they 

646
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,840
compare themselves to everybody 
else they're standing up there 

647
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,800
alongside. 
But if you take a snapshot of 

648
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,720
them that day and a snapshot of 
them six months ago, they may 

649
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,000
have had way more crazy 
transformation than anybody else

650
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,520
up there. 
So like that's kind of what you 

651
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600
have to understand if you're 
going to be doing some 

652
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,840
competitions like 100. 
Percent. 

653
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,720
Yep, 100%. 
Well, Greg's going to make a 

654
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,440
shorter episode today, man. 
I'm about to jump on a client 

655
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,720
call, but we're going to have 
some exciting things on the 

656
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,120
horizon for people, so stay 
tuned, y'all. 

657
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,680
Greg, proud of you, brother. 
Thank you. 

658
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,400
I'm excited for the next show 
and you and I'm gonna put in 

659
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,600
some work on the competition 
next week. 

660
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,920
So we're not going. 
Details coming together, we're 

661
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,120
gonna get the trophies all lined
up and ready to rock, so that'll

662
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,760
be good. 
But until then, y'all take care 

663
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,200
Tata.
