1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,500 Well, hello, ladies and gents Roberts. 2 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:04,000 Thanks kiddo, Savage.com, and today I've got special, repeat 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 guests, Christina has back on the line. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,900 She is the brains behind the keto. 5 00:00:07,900 --> 00:00:10,900 Symposium an amazing conference that's going to be going live 6 00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:13,700 for the first time in person. This September, I'll be speaking 7 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:15,200 there. I'm super excited about it. 8 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:18,000 Wanted to get her on the show to talk about that but we also do 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,400 of into a lot of her work with genetics, epigenetics how your 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,400 diet, and environmental factors can play a role in turning on 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,700 and off certain genes. And we also do quite a bit into 12 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:31,700 mindset, we talked about stoicism Philosophy, what makes 13 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:34,600 the Mind tick and how that has an impact on your health as 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,700 well. Thoroughly enjoyed the 15 00:00:35,708 --> 00:00:37,400 conversation. I've got a lot of respect for 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,600 Christina. She is a wealth of knowledge and 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,700 she's a great person. I've got no doubt that you will 18 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:44,100 take something from this. So that for their do is sit 19 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:47,300 back, relax and enjoy the podcast with Christina Hess 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,300 and we are live, Christina, how are you? 21 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:02,400 How are you Robert? I'm doing wonderfully. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,700 Well, when did we record? The first podcast was that movie 23 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,300 was January January. Okay. 24 00:01:07,300 --> 00:01:11,100 So it's been a little while. You've got the the keto 25 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:14,400 Symposium coming up here and just just a little bit. 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,800 So I wanted to bring you back on and talk about that but I also 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,200 kind of want to just dive a little bit deeper into some of 28 00:01:19,208 --> 00:01:22,000 the stuff that we touched on last time for people that did 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,900 not listen to the first episode. Definitely encourage them to do 30 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:27,000 so because you're a wealth of knowledge. 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,600 But for those people can you give us kind of like a quick 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,000 little Little little bio on yourself, so we can have some 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,700 context here. Sure, I am a licensed dietitian, 34 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:44,000 clinical nutritionist and I went, I went ketogenic myself 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,300 about five years ago. Found myself, insulin resistant, 36 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:50,800 as a Durance athlete crossfitter. 37 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:57,700 And as a result of just so much stress in my life and lack of 38 00:01:57,700 --> 00:02:05,000 sleep and also just turned 40. So I had to switch things up and 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,900 I was very very inspired by a lecture given by Professor 40 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:11,800 Thomas, Seyfried of Boston College. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,500 He's cancer researcher and what he had to say about ketogenic. 42 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:21,300 Metabolic therapy for cancer. Really blew me away because I 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,900 working inside of an oncology practice Manhattan and, and it 44 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:33,900 just completely changed the course of my life and the 45 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:40,700 direction in which I've taken my practice, which You know, quite 46 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:47,500 frankly even though I use other protocols it's my favorite for 47 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:54,900 so many reasons and something that I specialize in also in my 48 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,700 practice is nutrigenomics so its genetic. 49 00:02:59,100 --> 00:03:03,100 So looking at the genes and doing genetic testing the genes 50 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:07,500 that pertain to nutrient usage detoxification, you know your 51 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:11,100 cardiovascular health, you know Certain hormones. 52 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:17,200 And so it helps inform the kind of low glycemic plan to do, 53 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:22,500 because the only thing anyone agrees about out there in a 54 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,600 nutrition space, is that we should eat less sugar. 55 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,900 So how much less sugar should be? 56 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:32,500 Go all the way that super low carb? 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,300 Should we have less red, meat more, you know, more something 58 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:41,100 else? Can you have the caffeine not 59 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:45,900 have the caffeine? So, the genes tell a story and I 60 00:03:45,908 --> 00:03:49,200 like to put, you know, the lifestyle pieces support, you 61 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,900 know, sort of from Health coaching perspective, support 62 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:56,700 the person and their goals, but also look at their Labs. 63 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,000 So, that's, that's how I run my my practice and, which is mostly 64 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,300 Telehealth. But I do have an office and in 65 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:08,600 Connecticut for those that are local to me, I love it. 66 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,800 I feel like genetics and epigenetics Index aspect of 67 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,400 things is just incredibly intriguing and we talked about 68 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,200 this a little bit in the last podcast but like I feel like 69 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,600 from an epigenetic standpoint that that's a term that a lot of 70 00:04:21,608 --> 00:04:25,500 people are just now hearing and I feel like it's pretty powerful 71 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:27,600 because it really kind of puts the ball back in your court. 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,300 So many people look at their genetics and by this is just 73 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,400 what my parents gave me. Can't do anything about it, but 74 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,700 then when they look at it from the lens of, you know, these, 75 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:39,400 these jeans are getting turned on or off based off of your 76 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,000 environment. The factors you nutritional 77 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,300 decisions. You know, you're training 78 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:46,500 modalities like all these things can have a very you know 79 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:49,500 significant impact not just on you but on your kids. 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,500 So I'm very much of the mindset that like no one is coming to 81 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:55,200 save you. You have to figure things out on 82 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,900 your own and be responsible for your own actions and your own 83 00:04:57,900 --> 00:05:00,100 outcome. So like when you look at that, 84 00:05:00,100 --> 00:05:03,000 through the lens of epigenetics, and how environmental factors 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,400 play such a role in turning these genes on and off. 86 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,300 Like, I feel it's very empowering. 87 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,300 I totally agree with you. I mean the genetics comes in 88 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:17,300 kind of three major camps. It's you're looking at ancestry 89 00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:22,100 geneticists are really looking at single very fixed genes. 90 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:26,800 That pertain a particular diseases but nutrigenomics and 91 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Neutra. Genetics is looking at Family 92 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,900 groups. You're looking at multiple Snips 93 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:37,700 that are low penetrance which means they have a low impact. 94 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:42,800 Our lower impact and so when you look at them together in groups 95 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:48,800 or families, if you will, they do tell a story and you know, 96 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,000 people do develop weird conditions kind of later in 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,400 life. But that is the epigenetic 98 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,400 expression of our lifestyle maybe how some of us handle 99 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:08,500 stress better than others. And and so it it isn't It isn't 100 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:13,600 your destiny but but for sure it's the blueprint you came in 101 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:19,400 with. So so it's just potential and 102 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:23,500 you do have so much power with how you express your potential. 103 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:29,300 And if there's something that is not as favorable, there are so 104 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:34,400 many empowering things that you can do from a dietary standpoint 105 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,500 from a supplementation standpoint. 106 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:42,000 And then just from lifestyle, Modification that that will just 107 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:48,900 optimize those those groups of genes that may seem like a like 108 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:51,000 a bummer deal. Yeah. 109 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Totally totally agree. And I feel like having people 110 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,900 like you that can really dive into this and you know map that 111 00:06:56,900 --> 00:07:00,000 out for people that are not in the know when it comes to 112 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,300 genetics is super super helpful because genetics have have kind 113 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:09,100 of regain this since of Clarity, as of late especially when it 114 00:07:09,108 --> 00:07:12,000 comes to diet and nutrition. There's been a lot of these 115 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,700 companies pop up that have like basically you throw at them, 116 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:18,800 they're your, you know, genetic data you like 23andMe test and 117 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,900 you give them all the raw data and then they spit that into 118 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:24,700 some formula and then they print off this PDF of all the 119 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:29,000 recommendations for you. Are any of those really good? 120 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,700 Are they all pretty much just smoke and mirrors and good 121 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:37,800 marketing? I I can't really speak to those. 122 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,800 I haven't really seen those types of tests. 123 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:46,500 I think that the data, there's so much data, right? 124 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:51,700 And the thing is, is you're not you're not just a blanket 125 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:56,300 report. So I think that's a little bit 126 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:59,500 dangerous, to be honest with you too. 127 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:05,400 Just say hey okay even even the test I like to run which does 128 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,300 give you a 50-page report. It really does need 129 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:12,500 interpretation because someone was say, okay well that's this 130 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:15,000 is awesome. This is very interesting. 131 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Now what do I actually do with this? 132 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:21,200 Yeah. And what's helpful? 133 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:27,600 What's really helpful is to talk to a professional and speak to 134 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,100 them about your lifestyle. What is actually What is it? 135 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:35,600 What is expressing? What has expressed? 136 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 How do you how do you live already? 137 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:40,200 What? Kind of tweaks. 138 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,900 It's a lot of this is very nuanced. 139 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:47,900 I'll give you, I'll give you an example. 140 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:51,900 So, something that's very pertinent for folks, who like to 141 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:58,300 do, intermittent fasting, okay? So, there are a couple of their 142 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:04,700 couple of genes to look at that pertain to both fasting capacity 143 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:12,500 and eating windows. And there, there's a gene in the 144 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:15,100 report I use. That's a melatonin. 145 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:22,300 Scepter Gene that indicates it's been well researched that this 146 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,000 this particular Gene has a higher. 147 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:30,500 It's a higher impact Which is higher impact Gene that is 148 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:38,100 correlated to like to glucose if you eat late at night and makes 149 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:47,700 you a lot more insulin resistant and would also make you Less 150 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:52,900 sensitive to melatonin in the evening, as a result of late at 151 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:54,900 night. So it impact your sleep 152 00:09:55,100 --> 00:10:01,200 furthering insulin resistance. Gotcha, so that's that's one 153 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,800 example of. So someone with variants on on 154 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,500 that area and then you look at, also the peep our family ppar 155 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:14,900 which is fat. One of the fat oxidation genes 156 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:21,200 as very important for making ketones and feeling good while 157 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,600 fasting because it has to do with just your general energy 158 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,500 production utilizing fat. So look, Looking at these things 159 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:35,900 as families, and also, maybe looking at carbohydrate 160 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:41,200 sensitivity with tcf7l2 is another one. 161 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,600 I like to look at. So, looking at these different 162 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,100 numbers and letters together in groups and then finding out, 163 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,900 well, what is going on for this person? 164 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:53,900 Are they are they eating late at night art? 165 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,300 Because you, like I said, you're not just the report. 166 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:01,900 Art, there's a whole world of things going on for you and then 167 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:05,900 if you can also correlate it to some other labs or other data 168 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:13,000 like say a CGM or an organic acids test things like that or 169 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,100 super super helpful to start putting together your entire 170 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:21,500 store. Totally when someone's trying to 171 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,400 when they're when there's some is trying to go through their 172 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,900 life, kind of analyze, you know, what's working for them, what's 173 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:30,100 not working for them? And what order would you 174 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:33,500 suggest? People tackle, these various, 175 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,300 you know, levers that they can pull, for instance, so like if 176 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:40,100 someone's you know, standard American diet not training, has 177 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:43,100 no clue at their genetics or looking like what do you think 178 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:47,300 is the kind of, I guess order of attack. 179 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:50,000 So to speak with regards to People should focus their 180 00:11:50,008 --> 00:11:51,600 attention, shouldn't it should they start off? 181 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,300 Getting a genetic testing? Kind of diving into what that 182 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:55,900 data is showing them because that's going to paint the 183 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,800 picture for what they should start to do with their training, 184 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,900 in the nutrition or should they go? 185 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,400 Yeah. It's my dream. 186 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,000 It's my dream that everybody do this. 187 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Do this testing because it's a one-time test. 188 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,700 You never need to do it again because your genes are not going 189 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:15,100 to change. And, and that gives you your 190 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,000 blueprint, it's like trying to tackle a plan, a training. 191 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:23,900 Lan or someone someone's cookie-cutter dietary plan and 192 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:28,200 why it works for your neighbor but it doesn't work for you. 193 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:32,900 Or why someone is training plan works for the for another person 194 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:39,000 and for you, it injures you, so have it, having your data can 195 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,700 explain. Why it is that you're so 196 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:49,700 responsive or non-responsive. And you know, the thing about 197 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:56,800 low carb and ketogenic diet is that there's a lot of different 198 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:03,400 weights to get into ketosis and you can do it by just being me 199 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,200 and being a carnivore. You can do it you know, paleo 200 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,500 style, you can do it more Mediterranean style, you Do it 201 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:14,300 acting style. You can do it as a vegetarian or 202 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,600 vegan. So how you do it? 203 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:25,900 It's may be very, very pertinent to your jeans and and that 204 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:29,600 that's the reason why some people come to me and said, well 205 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,000 I tried this, I tried this one plan and it was very, very high 206 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 in saturated fat, because they're doing beef, bacon, 207 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,800 butter and eggs and the scale is not budging. 208 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:45,100 And then I look at the genes and and they have all these issues 209 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,500 with saturated fats and that's not indicated for them leaner 210 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:53,400 Meats, lot more veggies. Let's do some olive oil, it 211 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,200 doesn't, it doesn't mean eat sugar. 212 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,800 You can still get into ketosis eating shaken and and eggs. 213 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:05,500 Maybe fewer eggs or egg having more egg white and having some 214 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:08,600 fish. So there's just different 215 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:15,300 flavors of getting into Ptosis and how it how you do it and 216 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:18,000 what's going to make you feel best has a lot to do with your 217 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,500 jeans. Do you see that like in working 218 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:22,400 with the clientele you have over the years? 219 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,900 Do you see that? Give me pattern recognition 220 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:27,800 towards. You know what percentage of your 221 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,600 clientele base are having issues with saturated fat versus those 222 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,300 that aren't as that I can 50/50 split or is that a pretty small 223 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:38,300 demographic? You know that it is going to be 224 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:43,100 a smaller demographic because we were actually Ali designed, you 225 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:45,400 know, to to have the saturated fat. 226 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:51,600 So it's a newer, it's I would say a genetic adaptation, right? 227 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:58,000 Not not but it's also from different ancestry groups. 228 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:05,800 So if you have certain genetics, that are more adapted to to 229 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:12,800 agricultural Foods, you know, to a grain based diet, Ye you might 230 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:19,100 it doesn't mean you will that you might have shifted also in 231 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:21,400 the saturated fats. It's it. 232 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,700 There is no pattern actually, Robert. 233 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,100 Not that I've seen. Nope, I haven't seen every 234 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:32,700 literally, everybody's report that area is, it's different, 235 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,600 it's different. And that's the thing is that 236 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:42,100 even though 99.9% of us are the same, in the point, one, you 237 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:46,700 have three to four million different variations between 238 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:57,300 people and and so it's so many nuances that that You and I may 239 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:00,000 share a lot of the same stuff and then on a couple of things, 240 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:05,700 completely different. So, it's why I CJ, I've worked 241 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:10,300 with many husband and wife, you know, partners, and they can 242 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,700 they have to do their, their key do differently. 243 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,500 Yeah, it's crazy. I mean like my my wife Crystal 244 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:19,700 she's been keto for almost as long as I have. 245 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,500 I have been a and I'm curious to see, I don't even know how you 246 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:25,500 would test this really but you know what? 247 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:28,900 Implications are what what decisions that we've made over 248 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:33,400 the past seven years or so have had an epigenetic effect on our 249 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,300 son. Ryan, Jerome. 250 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:37,500 I mean, it'd be really hard to quantify that in any type of 251 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:42,100 measurable way, but we seem to operate pretty well on more or 252 00:16:42,108 --> 00:16:45,600 less the same food. So like, I would imagine we've 253 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,600 got some previous position to, to operate well with, you know, 254 00:16:48,608 --> 00:16:51,100 that same food type. I'd be curious to see. 255 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:53,000 I mean, cause with this genetic test, like, all you need is a 256 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,600 cheek swab, right? Like you do a cheek swab and 257 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,200 your have you had anything? It's just yeah, that's it. 258 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 That's so simple that it comes to your house, you collect it, 259 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,700 you send it in and you get the results better months later. 260 00:17:04,099 --> 00:17:08,700 Now, speaking of the epigenetic impact, it's it's been shown 261 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:14,200 that soda diet. So what you eat impacts Acts 262 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,300 those genes more than anything else. 263 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:23,700 And it does affect about three generations down the line, so, 264 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:27,500 and that's really a pertaining to a pregnant woman. 265 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:34,600 So what a pregnant woman needs really can impact regeneration 266 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,700 down the road. I mean, how convenient would it 267 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:39,200 be for like you? You know, go to the hospital for 268 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,300 a birth and they just simply do a cheek swab on the newborn and 269 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,800 then you have that Made it as just part of the normal process 270 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,100 of giving birth and so, yeah, that would be, that would be 271 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:50,900 amazing. That would be amazing. 272 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:57,300 And you know, I what I wish is that people wouldn't be so 273 00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:00,900 afraid to do this type. It's not, this is not genetic 274 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:03,200 testing where it's like, oh you're, you know, you're 275 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,500 predisposed to get this terrible disease. 276 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:09,800 That's not what this is nutrition and genetics. 277 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:16,800 So it's very nuanced and Like I said, a lot of these jeans, they 278 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,800 are low impact so, but they together, they can tell a story. 279 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:28,700 So if someone out there is really frustrated is feeling 280 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:32,800 like their progress is slow or stubborn. 281 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:41,000 They they may really benefit from a few tweaks, you know, it 282 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,500 could be time frame. You asked about different 283 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:46,900 levers. Without the genetics, I like to 284 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:49,700 follow Peter, atilla's model of this relievers. 285 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:53,200 So the relievers would be time, restriction, caloric, 286 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,900 restriction, and dietary restriction. 287 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,100 So you know he says pull on all three for best results but one 288 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,600 plug to pain or three but never pull none. 289 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:11,700 So if you know what the dietary restriction for you is You know, 290 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:14,200 maybe on a different day, you're not doing your dietary 291 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,200 restriction, you're off plan, but you're pulling on the other 292 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,500 two beavers you maybe close eating window, you don't eat as 293 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:23,300 much of whatever it is that thing that is Off plan. 294 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:30,100 But knowing whether you benefit from a certain time window or 295 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:36,600 not, is also helpful to see in the genes, I've come across some 296 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,100 newer information to me. Anyway, it's not a doubt, it's 297 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:45,200 new information, but An early time restricted feeding, where 298 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:51,500 two groups of people were study given the same food. 299 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:55,300 They're brought into the clinic in the same food and the early 300 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:57,900 group was fed at 8:00 a.m. 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. 301 00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:02,700 So 2 p.m. was their dinner time and it was not a low-carb plan. 302 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:09,700 It was actually 50% carb and the group that was fed early, lost, 303 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,500 thirty percent more weight. Wait. 304 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:15,100 Then the other group that had a traditional 12-hour eating 305 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,300 window. He's rude. 306 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,900 Calories control. Yeah, I think calories were 307 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:21,700 controlled and it was a group that needed to lose weight. 308 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:23,000 So I don't know. I don't remember what the 309 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,900 parameters were for entering that particular study but I've 310 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:30,200 come across to other studies that are similar. 311 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,100 So metabolic markers improving with early time, restricted 312 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:37,600 feeding. And and this could have a lot to 313 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,600 do with. Also that melatonin You know, 314 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:48,200 receptor Gene. So with people, we know that 315 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,800 that your metabolism is like three times slower in the 316 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,300 evening, like things start to shut down your pancreas your 317 00:20:55,300 --> 00:21:00,600 organs, as light dims, everything kind of goes is 318 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,900 getting ready to sleep. So things are getting slower in 319 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:08,800 the evening and so eating late at night isn't really good for 320 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,800 anybody but some people Don't have the same risk for diabetes 321 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,400 that other people might have. So that's kind of what I'm 322 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,500 talking about. But if someone struggling to 323 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:23,800 lose weight and and closes the eating window instead of doing a 324 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,300 traditional 7:48, let's say and that's not really working for 325 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:30,300 them. Maybe just experiment with 326 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:35,100 moving it up and maybe doing like an 82 or a 9 to 5. 327 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,900 Hmm. Well so how does that day? 328 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:40,000 Look like for you now with you experiment with this? 329 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,400 Well, I I've been experimenting with it. 330 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,400 I am doing a nine-to-five eating window. 331 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,300 It's I'm finding it easy. So it's too early to say, what 332 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:54,300 the results are but and then a.m. to 5 p.m. hmm. 333 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,300 Yep. Yeah, I was, I was before, just 334 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:02,300 not really break breaking fast until one or two. 335 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:07,300 So definitely, you know, switching that up. 336 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000 I kind of like that. I mean, I find that if I eat a 337 00:22:11,008 --> 00:22:14,800 really big meal before going to bed, I fall asleep. 338 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,700 Easier. It seems like, I don't have any, 339 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:19,400 like, I feel more lethargic, I fall asleep easier, but the 340 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,400 quality of my sleep seems to be diminished when I'm doing like a 341 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,700 prep. And I train in the morning, I 342 00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:27,200 typically prefer training in the morning. 343 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:30,500 I'll, I'll have a nomad meal. So all my calories for the day 344 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,900 within about a two-hour window of training. 345 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:35,700 So like if I train it, You know nine o'clock the morning I'm 346 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:39,200 eating at 10 or 11 so I'm definitely getting that meal in 347 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,900 before you know long before I go to sleep. 348 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,900 Oh yeah and that that's always worked pretty well for me. 349 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:49,000 Honestly I get lean and I don't feel like my sleep quality 350 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,500 improves. I just feel like that that's 351 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,800 worked. Well just me doing that and 352 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,000 really know the science behind the earlier, you know, protocol 353 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,200 like you're saying but that makes sense. 354 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,900 Well, even with folks who wear an aura wearing, the or o-ring 355 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,500 will start barking at you. About your HRV. 356 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:13,600 If you know EV Tinley it'll it'll show the diminishment on 357 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,700 your Sleep Quality. Yeah. 358 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:18,900 Do you put a lot of weight and then like you have it? 359 00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:21,600 You have an ordering. I do, I do. 360 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,500 I'm, I've fascinated by data. Yeah. 361 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,200 I like I like that. I like data. 362 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,100 It's foggy. I think it's fun. 363 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:37,700 I find it fun to And defy and really understand. 364 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:43,800 There's this one piece of understanding the biochemistry. 365 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,700 Like just what the heck is going on in this complicated, you 366 00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:51,800 know, biochemical computer, we got going and then there's this 367 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,900 other piece. It's fascinating to me to which 368 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:57,000 we talk a lot about last time which is why the heck do we do? 369 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,300 What we do and of the more psychology peace, the mindset 370 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:03,900 and all that is super interesting. 371 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,500 To so kind of, I love all of it. Yeah, I find I find human 372 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:12,200 beings, endlessly. Fascinating, well, it's all 373 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,700 interconnected like, that, that people have tried to separate, 374 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:16,000 you know, the body from the brain. 375 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,500 But like, you can't do the same listen to podcasts that they and 376 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,700 they were trying to figure out know what, what defining factors 377 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:30,300 makes a being sentient? And something was like it's just 378 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:32,300 the brain like you could chop off your brain and put it on a 379 00:24:32,308 --> 00:24:33,900 robot. And that's a human because it's 380 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,200 All about the brain. But then as we've learned more 381 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,000 about how, you know, like the gut microbiome is like the 382 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,900 second brain. Like you can't really you can't 383 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:45,300 really segment things like that, like it's all connected. 384 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:54,700 I mean isn't a tree sentient. The the whole notion for vegans, 385 00:24:54,700 --> 00:25:02,100 you know, saying it's I think I think the the plants that they 386 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:06,100 they're sentient to so that Doesn't really they have their 387 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:08,500 own, you know, trees. Communicate through their roots 388 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,800 and they have their own mechanisms. 389 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,000 Yeah. Yeah. 390 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,300 It's restart going down the rabbit hole and it gets pretty. 391 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:18,400 Trippy like Consciousness. Like what? 392 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:22,400 Where does where does one's conscience come from a cow, 393 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,500 right? I wouldn't rank a tree. 394 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:27,900 Would have a conscience, but where is that line drawn? 395 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:31,800 I don't know. Ya know we could we could go way 396 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:37,700 off topic and Hypothesize about the force. 397 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:42,500 You know, you know, sort of like the Star Wars, you know, May the 398 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:44,400 force be with you. I don't know. 399 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,200 It's all of it is very mysterious and very interesting, 400 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:55,800 and And I do, I do believe there's a whole, there's a whole 401 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,500 world of, you know, and I love the science stuff, the stuff 402 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,000 that we can quantify and look at. 403 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:09,600 But then there's even even in genetics, for example, you have 404 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,500 basically a whole set of blank, you know? 405 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:24,500 Just Millions of view like you know, your DNA is actually 406 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:27,300 blank. So what does that mean? 407 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:32,300 You know, it's sort of Bruce Lipton, who is a geneticist. 408 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:36,300 It's kind of like he talks about the biology of belief. 409 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,800 That was the, that was the title of his book and how, you know, 410 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:47,000 your energy. Your Intentions your these 411 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,700 underlying beliefs, you have yours that that Consciousness, 412 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:54,300 right? It, it, it activates. 413 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:59,500 Sells it, activates your biology that it's so it is. 414 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:01,900 So it's so much bigger. I mean, now we're going down 415 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,900 like a metaphysical path, but that's there's a piece. 416 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:07,500 I believe. There's a piece to that, too. 417 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,500 Yeah, so what you think about you bring about, who you are, 418 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,600 who you spend time with is he become like all this, you know, 419 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:24,100 you really need to also put coach yourself into a more 420 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,300 positive Bait to be healthy, you know. 421 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:34,700 So I have this formula that I teach my clients that it's like 422 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:40,500 a math formula. So it's like this time x 423 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:47,900 consistent, D+ r+ relief, equals results, equals your excellent 424 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,300 results, right? But it positive belief is sort 425 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,800 of a key component that you having a better outcome. 426 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:59,100 Because you could, you could do something consistently over time 427 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,700 and then have a negative belief about it and I really think then 428 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,700 you get to have it be that way. Yeah, I totally agree. 429 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:10,100 I feel like there's there's so much that we'll never even begin 430 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:14,000 to scratch the surface on because we just can't simply 431 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,800 know. And I feel like I come from a 432 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,200 family of scientists, my dad's a scientist like all of his 433 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,900 brothers or scientist I come from a family of very much so 434 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,900 black and white. You know, what does the data 435 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:30,400 show And I totally like that style of thinking, I like the 436 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,600 tangibility of, I like all that, but there's so many things that 437 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,900 I don't know. That science will ever have the 438 00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,600 capacity to illustrate in black and white. 439 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,100 And when you start diving into Consciousness, when you start 440 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,400 diving into compassion, love all these emotions that we know to 441 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,100 be real but can't really explain with some formulaic method, you 442 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,600 know, like what great. Zone. 443 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Does that lie in what we wear. Does that exist? 444 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,400 I don't know. Well, it's been there, there 445 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:08,300 neuro scientists that are studying, frequencies of certain 446 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:12,100 emotions, like, love, and appreciation, and gratitude, 447 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:19,800 and, and being in those states, does upgrade our biology. 448 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:25,600 So You know, like you said earlier the body and the mind 449 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,300 are connected, everything is interconnected. 450 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:31,300 That's that's the functional way. 451 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:38,000 So if you do, you can't separate feelings from your biology. 452 00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:43,300 You know, your, when you feel a certain emotion, you are 453 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:49,400 activating also sympathetic or parasympathetic response in your 454 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,700 body and that let's say you are in fight or flight. 455 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,100 You're going to activate a whole Cascade of chemicals. 456 00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:02,100 And and that has an impact on your heart and your and your 457 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:07,800 brain and your body temperature and your decision-making and 458 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,600 just It ultimately impacts your health outcomes. 459 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,100 Yeah. So it is all interconnected. 460 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Yeah. Point. 461 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,000 I think it has a massive impact on our longevity. 462 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Like I don't know of too many, you know, old hags and Scrooge's 463 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,900 that like live to be 120 years old. 464 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,700 In function at a high rate. But like you, you hear these 465 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,000 stories of people that don't necessarily have all the right, 466 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:37,400 you know, Health, you know, actions like they're smoking or 467 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,000 whatever, but they're really, really happy. 468 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Loving grateful people. And those are the ones that seem 469 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,600 to die of old age of the smile, on their face, and for whatever 470 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,400 reason they seem to be much more robust, and those that are doing 471 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,800 a lot of the right things, quote unquote, right things, but doing 472 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600 so, with this Aura of negativity about him, and I feel like 473 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,500 there's, there's definitely something to be said there. 474 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,000 Yeah, well speaking as smokers it's so interesting because for 475 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,700 exams a while I can you have a centenarian smoker and then have 476 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:10,600 someone else who'd you know develops lung cancer at a young 477 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,100 age and they never smoked, right? 478 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:19,200 So we don't have all the answers to something like that but if 479 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:25,900 you're looking at it through the lens of they genetics, right? 480 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,100 Then Detox capacity. And you're looking at all the 481 00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,100 genes nips that into detoxification and maybe that 482 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:37,800 centenarian smoker as really great clearance. 483 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,700 It's not that the smoking was didn't, it didn't cause harm and 484 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:44,800 it was good for them is just they have they have this other 485 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,700 potential like an Olympian who has the potential because 486 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:54,600 Olympians there's no Olympian who doesn't have a very certain 487 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,100 genetic markers Fitness markers. Yeah. 488 00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:04,200 And and, and that there could be just a radical difference in 489 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,800 detox capacity there, so, but yeah, you're absolutely right. 490 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,600 I mean, positivity is Paramount to living a long life and I 491 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,000 heard it said, once it really, really stuck with me, that if 492 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,900 you want to live a long life, One of the key keys to longevity 493 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:32,700 is the ability to process through grief quickly and that's 494 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,400 going to be true. Because if you plan to outlive 495 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400 everyone, you're going to lose a lot of people. 496 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,300 Yeah. So you have to keep fighting 497 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:43,200 your meaning and purpose for sticking around and that, you 498 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,000 know, that's another reason, you know, what, why would you want 499 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,300 to be around if your loved ones are gone? 500 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:54,400 But If you keep keep appreciating, you know, the 501 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400 beautiful sunsets or you know, bringing a smile to someone 502 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,300 else's face and then you're here for another day. 503 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,900 What have you found to be like, knowing that what have you done 504 00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:10,700 or implemented or, you know, read on personally and that has 505 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:16,500 allowed you to adopt that type of resilience more efficiently. 506 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,500 So, that's a really great question. 507 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,800 Robert many years No, I was, I had such a fear of public 508 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,700 speaking that I would turn into a puddle. 509 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,200 I'd be one of the, you know, the, the crazy voice. 510 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,100 My, I would get flushed. I would literally start shaking, 511 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:43,300 I might vomit if I had to speak and I would really wish that the 512 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:46,100 ground would swallow me whole and I'm not kidding. 513 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,900 It was it was so severe like the Panic was so bad. 514 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,200 And and then here I am, you know, putting on a conference 515 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,300 right? I mean it's who I've become 516 00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,500 today is radically different than that person. 517 00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,800 That was absolutely terrified of that. 518 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:08,300 And the one of the biggest tools that help me with studying heart 519 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:13,500 math, heart math, is a method that came from the heart math 520 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:18,400 Institute. And they study resilience, and 521 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:25,100 they basically teach, teach how to change emotional state, how 522 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,300 to, how to, how to be in control of that. 523 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:34,500 And it is a, it's a practice just like, just like doing reps, 524 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:42,100 you know, it's a practice, it does not come easily, but It's 525 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:46,100 not to say you know, you're never going to feel angry or sad 526 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,000 or frustrated or overwhelmed because those feelings. 527 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,300 They come sometimes on a daily basis. 528 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:55,100 It's how quickly you can move through. 529 00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:57,300 I've never even heard of this heart math. 530 00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:00,200 Like what is it at a high level at what's the concept? 531 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,600 Yeah, it is. It's an emotional resilience 532 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,900 program. It's really well researched 533 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:15,300 Stress Management. And it's hard to CEOs, Navy 534 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:21,700 Seals teachers First Responders and it's good for anyone 535 00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:26,200 literally. And it was great for me too, so 536 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,900 that I could move Beyond. This is fear of public speaking 537 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:30,500 that I had. That was so paralyzing. 538 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:35,800 And keeping me from, you know, sharing sharing my knowledge, my 539 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,100 gifts. It was really getting in the way 540 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,000 of me being my best self and for students who are having so much 541 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,200 anxiety that they don't, they don't do well on tests for, 542 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,700 literally anyone who wants to do better in life, it's a great 543 00:35:54,700 --> 00:36:00,000 program and it's great for athletes, you know, athlete 544 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,700 choked all the time. Under competition example, I 545 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,400 love watching the Olympic and Nathan Chen, who's the, who's 546 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,400 the figure skater, who can do the for whatever Grudge? 547 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:18,100 People, jump thing he went to his first Olympics and he fell 548 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,100 five times trying to do his jump. 549 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:23,600 That he's so known for and it was just nerves, right? 550 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,400 It's just the nerves, get the best of you because when you are 551 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,900 nervous, you're not in a powerful emotional state, where 552 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:34,300 your body that you've trained to do something over and over and 553 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:41,600 over it, totally betrays you So, so the next the next day he was 554 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,800 doing his short program or the pressures off is not going to, 555 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,500 it's not going to meddle anymore. 556 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:52,900 He nailed all his job And that that says a lot of eight of his 557 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,000 in a different emotional state. You know, pressures off, no 558 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,800 worries, boom. And so, it's how it is. 559 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,300 It's a great program for for teaching that. 560 00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:07,900 Have you dove into stoic philosophy? 561 00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,200 Stoicism at all. No, no. 562 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,700 Tell me more. So you need to look into 563 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:17,000 stoicism so it is probably going to butcher it when I try to 564 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,500 explain it here but basically, it was Popularized in, like, I 565 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,900 don't know, the Roman era, the Greeks and Romans, like 566 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:29,800 basically philosophers of that time we're practicing stoicism 567 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,900 which at a high level is basically. 568 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,300 I don't want to say emotionless because I don't think 569 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:39,100 emotionless is the right word but basically taking whatever 570 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:43,700 your environment throws at you and then reasoning through it. 571 00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,200 Like the the environmental things that come your way or not 572 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,500 necessarily good or bad. They just or and then how you On 573 00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:53,900 to those are a result of a well-thought-out reasoned 574 00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:59,600 response. So it's like Ryan holiday writes 575 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000 about it at length. He's written like one of one of 576 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,700 my favorite books is the obstacle is the way by Ryan 577 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:08,500 holiday but all of his are great Marcus, Aurelius Anderson, the 578 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:12,800 Roman Emperor, he was a big stoic thinker and it's been 579 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,400 probably the single best thing from a philosophy from a mindset 580 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:22,200 standpoint that I've adopted To just think more rationally and 581 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,200 then act more reasonably honestly. 582 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,800 I mean like I don't I mean, I still have nerves. 583 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,900 I still have emotions obviously, but I don't let those dictate my 584 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:39,300 actions to the point of fumbling or failing and it's just like, 585 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,000 like I can't believe you had heard it because I feel like the 586 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,600 type of person that you are and what you're talking about right 587 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,000 now, like you would just soak it up, but definitely encourage you 588 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,300 to check out stoic thinking, It's not really a relief. 589 00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:52,000 It's not a religion. I wouldn't say I think it's just 590 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,100 a way to unlock the. Yeah. 591 00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,800 I've heard of the daily Stewart as a Blog. 592 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,200 Yeah, yeah, I just I didn't really know the philosophy 593 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,000 behind it. It's been super impactful to me. 594 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,900 A lot of athletes have done it and for me it's like, you know, 595 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,900 in business and for me my sport of bodybuilding, like there's 596 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:17,100 just things that come your way that you don't really have a lot 597 00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,600 of control over. Like that's just the world, we 598 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,800 live in like that. Was the case in 2020 with the 599 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,200 pandemic. That's the case of politics. 600 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,400 That's the case with so many things and so many people allow 601 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,100 those environmental factors to dictate their everything of 602 00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:32,800 their existence. It allows them to allow. 603 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,000 They allow it to dictate their mood when they're having a good 604 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000 day or a bad day, you know, whether they're Frozen with fear 605 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,300 or in a heightened sense of anger. 606 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:45,000 And it proper stoic is able to just take that environmental 607 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,300 factor and then not let hit it, shake them to the core they just 608 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,200 Simply act in the most reasonable manner possible with, 609 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:55,100 you know, the the tools, their disposal, and I feel like that's 610 00:39:55,100 --> 00:40:00,000 just incredibly powerful. Yeah, so it's a it sounds like 611 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,200 You know something like heart math is the avenue to getting to 612 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,500 that getting into at State, you know? 613 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:16,100 So it gives you the an operating system for the how to how to do 614 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,000 it, you know. So a good way to put it, I feel 615 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,900 like there's there's just, I don't know, just so many 616 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,100 distractions right now. Like, I've got a love-hate 617 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:27,400 relationship with like, social media, my cellphone stuff, like 618 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,200 I don't want, I don't have a TV, I don't watch the news because 619 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,500 it's just so many distractions. But not, I mean at its core. 620 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,600 People have this, this lacking ability to just simply recognize 621 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,100 what is important, what they have control over, and if they 622 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,400 have control over it, it's this kind of goes back to genetics. 623 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,600 We're gonna make this full circle segue here, so get ready. 624 00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:54,700 But like, people allow themselves to become just frozen 625 00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:58,100 out of fear of not, knowing how to respond, how to react in a 626 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,600 given situation. This is the same with their 627 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,200 their thought. Thought towards genetics, they 628 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,000 think that, you know, this is what their parents gave them. 629 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,700 So they have no, no action, no plan of attack it. 630 00:41:08,707 --> 00:41:10,100 So they just they don't do anything. 631 00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,900 And that's often times lead to their demise and stoic thinking 632 00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:17,200 and, you know, genetics is like, look, you have these 633 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,700 environmental factors that you can't necessarily change but how 634 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:25,700 you respond to them can create a vastly different outcome so be 635 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:28,500 reasonable real. Be rational rational and how you 636 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,200 do respond. So yeah, I feel like I feel 637 00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:32,900 Anybody would benefit from it, for sure. 638 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Yeah. So in the report that I run and 639 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,900 the test that I like to use, there's a whole section on the 640 00:41:40,908 --> 00:41:48,000 mental health genes and how some people tolerate stress better 641 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:53,300 than others and it explains why some people may have a tendency 642 00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:57,300 towards anxiety or or depression. 643 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:03,600 I think it's so powerful to Stand the predisposition. 644 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:10,400 So that you you can also eat and live in a way that, that manages 645 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,700 that, as opposed to just defaulting, right to a 646 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,300 pharmaceutical. Yeah, totally. 647 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,600 Totally agree. I've got, I've had several 648 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,400 people in my family are not separately, but I've had a 649 00:42:19,408 --> 00:42:21,700 handful of people in my family that have struggled with 650 00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:25,300 depression in some form or another. 651 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,600 And it's always been said to me to see people that are really 652 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,800 depressed. I mean, I've had relatives that 653 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,400 have gone as far as like cutting themselves and just like really 654 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,100 dark chapters in their lives. And it's sad for me to see 655 00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:45,900 because they they don't feel empowered and knowing that hey 656 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:47,700 look you know, what you do with your nutrition? 657 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:49,800 What you do with your time? Are you training? 658 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,100 Are you getting good sleep? Like all those things can have a 659 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:56,700 direct impact on. Going on your hormones, like all 660 00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,500 of this stuff. Your serotonin, like how you 661 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,100 feel? Instead they all default. 662 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,200 To, hey, look, I need to get a drug that fixes this. 663 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000 And that's just, that's just takes the power away from them, 664 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,200 which I feel is debilitating. Yeah, that food food, mood 665 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,800 connection is real because as you said, the gut is the second 666 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,100 brain and 90% of Serotonin is made in the dot. 667 00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:28,300 So it's that is absolutely real. There's another really great 668 00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:30,200 test. It's not expensive that I came 669 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,800 across a couple. Omega client, which is so for 670 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,700 someone who struggles with low mood. 671 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:41,500 They should really do a pin prick, test to assess their 672 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,900 level of Omega-3, because omega-3 is so, so, so important 673 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,900 for your brain and unfortunately, most people's 674 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:57,200 ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 is just off just do due to our food 675 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,100 and and you know even even For someone who's. 676 00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:06,400 So now, you know, following a low carb plan, getting off the 677 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,900 sugar as one piece, but, but but what is the actual level of the 678 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:19,700 fatty acids, is another piece. So that's a great test to run to 679 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,600 was that legal. Sorry, what was that one called? 680 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,600 Again, you'll make a Quant. So I have I have access to that 681 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,600 as well. Awesome awesome. 682 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,600 I'll have to Link that out for sure. 683 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,700 I would love to kind of switch gears living here towards the 684 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,100 end and just talk about the the conference because I feel like 685 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:42,300 the conference's is looming. What are the dates on the keto 686 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:46,400 Symposium Sookie do Symposium is in New York City on Friday, 687 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,400 September 23rd and Saturday. September 24th, we kick off in 688 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,400 the evening so we start with a 4:00 registration and reception 689 00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:01,100 the food drive Farm wine. Is this donated wine? 690 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,900 Fine, we have exhibitors and then the kickoff with Keynotes 691 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,500 and also special film preview from the cancer. 692 00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:15,200 Revolution, folks nagging, Brad Jones, and then Saturday. 693 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,700 It's all day. We have coffee service, starting 694 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:21,000 at 8, and then we start promptly at 9:00. 695 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,500 And we go, we go all the way to the end of the day and then we 696 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:31,900 also have a VIP speaker dinner with all the speakers and Are 697 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,300 three tickets left for anyone who is really interested in 698 00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:45,900 eating and spending time with the speakers, because man, if 699 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:51,300 you tried to hire, everybody, that would just really add up. 700 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:59,000 So it's sort of a really a Priceless thing to spend a few 701 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,400 hours in private with this. Speakers and you'll get a front 702 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,100 row seat. But it only three only three 703 00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:10,800 tickets left on it. And this is, this is the first 704 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:12,500 ketose imposing. This is the first year. 705 00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:14,500 It's been in effect, right? Yeah. 706 00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:18,300 Last year it was virtual because of covid. 707 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:20,800 We couldn't do. The in first in-person was 708 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,800 originally scheduled for 2022. I'm sorry 2020. 709 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400 And then we didn't that didn't happen, right? 710 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,600 And and so the following year in 2021 Was virtual and so, but 711 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,900 this is the, this is the first in person. 712 00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:40,400 Yeah, so it's very exciting. So, this is really been two and 713 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,800 a half years. Yeah, that's that's quite quite 714 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,500 the time. So with, with there being that 715 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:48,500 much time in the making, I'm sure this thing is just going to 716 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:50,500 blow the socks off everybody, because you did. 717 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,500 You've had enough time to get everything down then perfectly 718 00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,700 totally amazing. Yeah, and I've never really 719 00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,100 spent much time in New York so I'm super excited to be there. 720 00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,000 I can't thank you enough for giving the opportunity to speak. 721 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,200 So, what's going to set this conference apart from, from the 722 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,600 others, I've been doing several conferences this year at every 723 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,200 conference has their own, there's pros, and cons to each 724 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,400 conference and I love them all. I learned something from every 725 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,400 single one of them. What's going to be uniquely 726 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,900 different about this one? Well, this, this is a more 727 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,400 intimate conference, you know, it's not going to be a big 728 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,100 conference. Like keto con, we are limited to 729 00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:32,600 200 seats in the auditorium and it So given that it's more 730 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,800 intimate, you just have better access to their participants and 731 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:44,900 the speaker's themselves and so, it has that more of, I don't 732 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:46,200 know. I love that sort of more 733 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:53,000 intimate, feeling less corporate feeling there. 734 00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:56,800 That all the topics are so interesting. 735 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,600 That all the speaker. We have such an amazing, such an 736 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:08,500 amazing Lineup and it's varied. So we've got cancer being 737 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:11,100 covered. We've got hormones, we've got 738 00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,100 mine set. I'm going to speak about this 739 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:18,900 genetic piece. We've got fertility. 740 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:25,600 And I mean, diabetes, and, and insulin, resistance and food 741 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:31,000 addiction. It's it's just this whole this 742 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,700 Range. Right? 743 00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:36,200 It and everyone is going to bring something different to the 744 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:42,100 table. So for anyone who say, has been 745 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:48,600 uninspired or stalled out, or is really missing being with people 746 00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:55,600 or just needs to be immersed as that there, there's so much to 747 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,800 learn or someone who just really likes to learn. 748 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,700 Like, I love going offered this for that. 749 00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,900 There's some special be said about the immersion aspect of 750 00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:09,100 competition feel like you know, throughout 2020 2021 when all 751 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:12,300 the conference's are pretty much cancelled everybody in the keto 752 00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:14,600 space was just, you know, looking online there was some 753 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,900 virtual conferences and those are good. 754 00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:20,500 But like now that we're getting back into the conference seen 755 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,000 and I've been to several of them this year. 756 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,600 Like there's just something totally different with getting 757 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,600 all these people under the same roof in the same room and just 758 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,000 talking face to face like that, you can't. 759 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,400 Replicate that through Zoom, you can't replicate that over a TV 760 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,000 screen and it's true. There's just there's just 761 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,800 something magical about it and when you're in it, like it makes 762 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,900 you that much more confident in your decision to follow this 763 00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:47,600 lifestyle in the first place. Like there's people that 764 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,700 throughout 2020 2021 what kind of like on the fence about Kita. 765 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:53,800 It's like yeah, you know maybe maybe there's something here. 766 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,200 Maybe there's not like, you know, who knows? 767 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,000 But then like you go to the conference and you like you're 768 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,400 seeing all the Cutting Edge research. 769 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,000 You're interacting with people. You're hearing these stories. 770 00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:02,800 Is of people that have lost 100-plus pounds. 771 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,600 Reverse their diabetes, you know, put their cancer into 772 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,600 remission and say okay, how can I possibly ignore this? 773 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,800 Like, this is where I want to be. 774 00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:18,300 Yeah, cuz remember, Tito is about is just living a, no sugar 775 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,800 lifestyle. So it's, it's great. 776 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,500 It's again, you know, the misconceptions about what key do 777 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:30,500 is, it's could be, you know, ten different things. 778 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,600 Pretend different people in a room. 779 00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:37,900 So but what brings us all together as we don't, we don't 780 00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:43,300 want to have so many carbohydrates and in our diet 781 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:47,100 and that's that, that is our shared commonality. 782 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:52,100 So how you do your keto? Or I do maybe slightly nuanced 783 00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,500 and different but that's just bring us together. 784 00:50:55,500 --> 00:51:00,300 Is we want to kick sugar and and like sugar ultimately is not, 785 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,400 you know, leading Us to a better, a better life, and a 786 00:51:03,408 --> 00:51:07,700 better brain and and a better mood and all these things and 787 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,000 and man the power of just, yeah, being with other people because 788 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,300 loan wolfing, it is it's a lonely road and it doesn't 789 00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:22,800 really work. And so if you if you aren't in 790 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,100 community, if you don't have support you don't have friends 791 00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:31,000 that are eating this way. You don't your spouse's any 792 00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:33,500 Tough. So kind of getting with some 793 00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:37,500 other people and also just seeing other products seeing 794 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,900 things that you can incorporate into your lesson to make life 795 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:42,800 easier. So that it is a lifestyle is, 796 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,100 and it's so is so worthwhile. Yeah, totally. 797 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,200 Totally agree. What's the key to a scene, like, 798 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,800 in New York? Like, it feels like from my 799 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,900 perspective. The quote-unquote, keto Hub 800 00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:58,300 seems to be like Austin, Texas, you know. 801 00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:02,800 California is Like, there's there like a pretty large 802 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,700 demographic, you're going to find out if we're going to find 803 00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:12,200 out that it's either in full effect or small. 804 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,400 So New York for as I mean, I live outside New York. 805 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,600 So I'm in, I'm in Connecticut out just outside New York. 806 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,700 So the where I live? It's the commuter town, you 807 00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:35,000 know, people kind of commute into the city for work. but, New 808 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,500 York has everything New York's is this big started, a soup of 809 00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:41,800 everything. So I imagine that the, the 810 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,600 low-carb people are there and and hopefully there are make 811 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:51,400 make their way but I can't speak to it, Robert. 812 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,300 I don't, I don't know. I guess we'll find out. 813 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,800 I'll guess. We'll find out if the the 814 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,300 low-carb Community is strong. Or if most of the attendees are 815 00:53:01,300 --> 00:53:04,100 coming from out of town, I guess it remains to be seen. 816 00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:08,000 I'm Keep her to meeting everybody who's there was a ton 817 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,800 of people in New York. So I'm sure it's probably a 818 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,900 pretty good time please. Thank you do, Folks at least. 819 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,900 Yeah, let's hope. Let's hope so. 820 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:26,000 Yeah, everybody who is feeling, you know, like they're ready to 821 00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:31,500 to either beat the speaker's, meet each other, you know, be 822 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:36,000 inspired, learn some new things, relearn some things are already 823 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,800 knew. This is for you, this is, this 824 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,600 is totally for you and it's such a good. 825 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,900 The, the ticket price is totally reasonable. 826 00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:53,200 It's a, you know, you're going to get It's, it's it's so worth 827 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,500 it. Such a good investments in. 828 00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:57,200 I'm stoked. I think it's going to be 829 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600 amazing. I'm going to look like like a 830 00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,200 total tourist out there. That would be one of those guys 831 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,700 looking a little skyscrapers and it with people Newark, say, if 832 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:06,700 you're looking up, you're obviously not from around here. 833 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,800 Yes. Everett the buildings are very, 834 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,300 very tall. In fact, you know, when I, when 835 00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:19,200 I first went to Washington d.c. See and then later I moved to 836 00:54:19,207 --> 00:54:22,500 Austin. I was these buildings just not 837 00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:25,300 suffer at all. So when you used to these very 838 00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,700 tall buildings it's funny when you go to other cities and they 839 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:30,800 don't have those the the skylines. 840 00:54:31,900 --> 00:54:36,700 Yeah but it you know Gotham it's a special place, a special place 841 00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:39,800 it's excited for you to see it and experience it. 842 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,300 Yeah I'm excited to be then I'm excited to interact with the 843 00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:43,600 speaker's interact with you meet. 844 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,500 You face to face in person for the first time and just in time. 845 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,100 Yeah, they're great. So what is the what's the 846 00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,900 website for people to get a ticket and get more information? 847 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,400 Absolutely. It's keto Symposium.com. 848 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,700 And you can also find us on Instagram at just at keto 849 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:07,000 Symposium, so all the details are there. 850 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,000 The tickets are linked in the website to Eventbrite and just 851 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,300 super easy. And and I look forward to 852 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,800 forward to seeing you Either. Yeah, and what is what is your 853 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,200 profile on social? People can find you as well. 854 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:29,300 I am, Christina heskey, do nutritionist and my website is 855 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:33,200 the keto nutritionist.com? Awesome, awesome. 856 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,600 Well, I'm super excited to be there. 857 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,700 The conference, I'm proud of you for throwing this conference, 858 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,000 especially with your prior history of being fearful of 859 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,500 public speaking. So that's quite quite a change 860 00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:48,900 of pace for sure. So, that's making leaps and And 861 00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:49,900 just keep doing you doing Christina. 862 00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:53,200 I've always admired what you put in that out into the space. 863 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,100 I feel like you're incredibly intelligent, you're offering a 864 00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:58,000 ton of value so just keep doing exactly what you're doing. 865 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,400 Thanks, Robert, thanks for. Thanks for having me on and I'm 866 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,700 super excited to see you in just a couple weeks. 867 00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:08,100 I'm as well. See you soon? 868 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,300 Take care.