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Hello ladies and gents Robert 
Sykes ketose a.com today and get

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special guest Robb. 
Wolf on the podcast, I've had 

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him on the show in the past. 
This time we dive into all 

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things but nutrition for the 
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Jiu-Jitsu. 
We talk about mixed martial 

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arts. 
What? 

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He's been doing there for a long
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He's brown belt, he knows what 
he's talking about. 

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I wanted to kind of pick his 
brain. 

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There, we also dive into 
homeschooling quite a bit, and 

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what he, and his wife do for 
their two kids, with regards to 

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how they structure their day, 
how they structure their 

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activities, how They structure 
their learning process very, 

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very, very interesting stuff 
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And then we also talked about, 
we talked about attrition some 

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we talk about lifestyle design 
thoroughly enjoyed the 

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conversation Rob and I are 
definitely speaking the same 

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language. 
I have utmost respect for him, 

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his character, what he's doing 
in the space and I have no doubt

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that you will take something 
valuable from this conversation.

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So without further Ado, sit back
relax and Joe podcast with Rob 

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wolf. 
And we are live Rob. 

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How are you brother? 
Good? 

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Good. 
All good. 

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I forgot to turn the heat on in 
my office. 

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And we live in rural Montana. 
And so it's a little, it's a 

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little chilly in here. 
I Will Survive, man. 

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Oh man, Montana is beautiful. 
How long have you been there? 

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We've been coming up on two 
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Where did you come from? 
We were in Reno, Nevada for a Is

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for about 10 years and then 2 
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which we like to Texas, but the 
kids didn't love it when they 

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found out that it only snowed 
there about once every 30 years,

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they were not digging on that. 
And so, we have some some really

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good connections within our 
Jiu-Jitsu community that streak.

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Last, Jim Jiu-Jitsu outfit that 
were a part of, and there's 

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really remarkable Hub of that 
activity here in the Flathead 

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Valley, Kalispell area. 
So, we moved here and Just just 

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loving it. 
Nice. 

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I bet they don't have any 
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though. 
No. 

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But, you know, we were not bad 
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The Flathead Valley is only 
about 300, 3000, feet elevation.

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It's not really that cold. 
It'll get some pretty good, cold

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snaps, but if you drive like 30 
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the valley, it goes. 
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like 50 inches of snow average 
per year, but you go 30 minutes,

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north, south east west. 
And it's like, 400 inches all of

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a sudden so it gets gnarly 
pretty pretty fast. 

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When you get out of here ya 
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That's why me if I was going to 
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Arkansas where I'm at. 
Now it would be Montana. 

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Like I've always loved month and
I think it's beautiful. 

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I'm a big hunter. 
So there's often awesome 

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opportunity to do that there. 
It's just a beautiful state and 

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yeah, yeah, it is, it is funny 
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My mom's side of the family is 
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Arkansas. 
So, I've been doing a little bit

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of trying to reconstruct my 
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And I think Appleton is one of 
those towns that just kind of 

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like dried up and blew away, 
it's basically, like, a cow 

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pasture down. 
Like, there's not much much to 

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it at this point. 
Is that like Northwest Arkansas?

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Where's Apple Town it? 
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interesting. 
Yeah, I'm in the Ozarks, which 

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is not near as mountainous as 
Montana is, but it's pretty much

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as far as mountains. 
Going Arkansas. 

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It's like an outdoor activities 
here, but not much in the way of

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snow, right, right? 
Which isn't bad. 

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Yeah bad. 
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Well talking about jiu-jitsu man
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So you've been doing that for 
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kind of a tricky question the 
first time that I ever did. 

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It was in 1993 like right before
the first UFC and I was studying

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Muay Thai at the time and was 
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coaching certificate in that. 
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by the, by the Jiu-Jitsu ice, I 
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Academy where the Gracie family 
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but I really had to kind of pick
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And I ended up sticking with the
the Thai boxing till I got my, 

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my coaching certificate and Nat 
and did that for a number of 

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years. 
And it wasn't until I moved to 

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Reno and and started over no 
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When I when I started the 4th 
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2003-2004, my good friend Jon 
Frankel had just received his 

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black belt and I was running the
CrossFit part of this operation.

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He was running the MMA part and 
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wider group, helping with that. 
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John, but I mean it was like, 
between 1993 and 2003. 

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I had maybe two weeks total of 
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spread out and pretty haphazard 
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jujitsu around yet and didn't 
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Like I'm I'm going to make this 
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pretty consistent since then. 
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years, I had to one year kinda 
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and stuff like that but 
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consistent and I'm a brown belt 
now and it seems to be a little 

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bit of scuttlebutt About Me. 
Maybe maybe getting my black 

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belt sometime this year. 
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at that but it's usually you 
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Jujitsu longer than just about 
anybody you ever meet, but you 

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know, the consistency really 
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last 10 years and how frequently
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How many days a week are you 
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Typically, usually about three 
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which is great. 
Nikki does Jiu-Jitsu also, my 

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youngest daughter does Jiu-Jitsu
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a break on. 
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might get back into it. 
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But we usually get Get to 
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we go to One open mat on 
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So it's about three days of 
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We actually do a little bit more
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area. 
There's three different straight

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blast gyms and the the primary 
coach that we all of the coaches

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are great but Travis status. 
In is the vice president of the 

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organization and has been a 
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I want to say Only two years, 
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So we really like his coaching 
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And in the summer, we're able to
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his will bump up to like three 
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doing homeschooling during the 
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And so it just in the summer, we
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than we do in the winter, just 
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school and all that type of 
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Nice, nice. 
So like my forte and fitness is 

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always been, you know, 
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bodybuilding. 
I compete with that and I've 

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never really done much in the 
way of All Arts, but one of my 

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employees are media guy. 
He's always been big into MMA 

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boxing. 
So we've got this big Jam at our

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compound here. 
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have like some mats down, some 
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we've all just been collectively
you know as a group all of our 

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employees will clock out early 
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And you know, do a bunch of MMA.
We've gone through like striking

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and now we're starting to 
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and some grappling and some 
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for coming up on like a year and
a half that, but it's not like I

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do. 
Nice gym at all. 

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It's just like us learning 
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And I've got clients that do 
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Like they'll come in to visit 
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And so I'm learning how to do 
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moves and the one of my 
employees put me in a ankle lock

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the other day. 
And I tore my lcls, I was kind 

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of out of commission, but I love
it, man. 

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Like the, I don't think I could 
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because it's just what I live 
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But Jiu-Jitsu is such an art 
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And there's like so much and 
it's all technique, like, it's 

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one. 
Of those things that you could 

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pursue with the utmost 
intensity, every single day of 

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your life and you would never 
master and I like stuff like 

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that. 
Yeah, it's pretty cool. 

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In that regard like, there's 
always something new to be 

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learned some, you know, some 
refinement in your skill and I 

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think that that's really 
intriguing and then something 

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that I've found like our GM is 
really great in that They do a 

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good job accommodating. 
Everybody like our noon class. 

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There's a bunch of beat-up old 
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So there's a bunch of people in 
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There's probably out of a group 
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twelve women that are there. 
There's old guys like me. 

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So they do a great job of 
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Everybody making it accessible 
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They also have some absolute 
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chain, like Savage competitors, 
but they, the, the coaching is 

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just structured in a way that It
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old, if you're not that strong, 
like it will accommodate you. 

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If your total pipe hittin, you 
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will accommodate that too. 
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Under the best of circumstances 
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it, it's a gut check like it's 
an ego check, it's physically 

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demanding, mentally demanding. 
You have lots of ups and downs 

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people who stick with it long 
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like they are just resilient 
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And even though we've only been 
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like the social capital that we 
have is like we've been here for

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20 years. 
Like, it's incredible to the 

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quality and amount of just 
awesome people that we've, we've

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been able to incorporate into 
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I think Jiu-Jitsu, it's just 
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can't help, but spill over into 
life outside of the gym, the 

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dojo, so to speak. 
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you don't know everything and 
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you likely, don't know 
everything with everything else 

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in life. 
So just you're more receptive to

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have an open mind, just being a 
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I feel definitely, there's that 
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you've got a coach that Brings 
in some of those in, is it less 

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tangible, you know, life lessons
which are Coach, Travis Davison 

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is great about weaving that in, 
and in kind of a tough love 

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format, like, it's pretty 
hilarious. 

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Like he has a very dry sense of 
humor, but he reminds folks 

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constantly that, you know, 
there's lots of lessons to be 

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learned in the gym. 
And if you're not taking those 

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lessons from inside the gym, 
outside the gym, you really 

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fail, Failing, you know, like 
there's this huge opportunity to

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get so much more out of that 
experience than just just 

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rolling around having people 
drip, sweat into your eye 

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sockets and stuff. 
Lie, totally totally. 

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You feel like Jiu-Jitsu has 
gained a lot more popularity, as

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of late, or is it just seemed 
like that to me, because I'm 

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just not getting into it? 
I feel like it's been on an 

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upswing, like, they're some of 
the There have been some really 

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interact. 
I don't follow the competition. 

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Jiu-Jitsu that much, I don't 
really compete anymore. 

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Like, I just don't have a real 
passion for that or I want to 

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continue to enjoy Jiu-Jitsu and 
as soon as I turn it into a 

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competitive event, like I'm 
probably going to hate it in 

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myself and my family will hate 
me and everything. 

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But there have been some changes
in like this, the rule sets of 

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some of the the competition. 
So like the Eddie Bravo rule, 

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Sets are pretty interesting. 
There have been some, someone 

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Corporation of like, combat 
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open hand strikes that get 
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So it's not quite MMA. 
It's still mainly grappling, 

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but, you know, certain Jiu-Jitsu
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There is, there are segments of 
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of workflows that work perfectly
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Egypt. 
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that, and then there are things 
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to Jutsu, but they will get you 
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incorporation of so say like 
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everything that's going on and I
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for folks and, and You know, the
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but I think it's interesting 
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outfits. 
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short rounds like five minute 
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while you're doing it, used to 
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early UFC's, or were no time 
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stuff like that. 
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interesting game, you know, like
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could wear down a stronger, 
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everything, very uniform and it 
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person who's going to dominate 
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environment. 
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so on. 
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spins like myself, like don't 
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that, but it's some of the, the 
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Jiu-Jitsu rules metamoris and 
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Like a 20-minute round. 
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timeline and whatnot, like a 
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Explosive person, that's great. 
But those people you Wear them 

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out if you if you have a little 
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whatnot, like, I love it. 
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rounds are five minute, 5 minute
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love to bump it up to eight to 
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naturally gravitate towards more
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individual, like I start really 
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10, you know. 
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changes have kind of Fed into 
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appreciation for grappling and, 
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both in the ghee and noogie. 
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Feel like the this has a sport 
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standpoint. 
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round but like will typically do
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gassed Maan. 
Like I feel like I'm in pretty 

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good shape but after 2 minutes 
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like it is a totally different 
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horizon, being able to kind of 
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opponent down more so than just 
everybody going all out because 

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it's just different than like, 
like doing a combat sport when 

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you are using every single 
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top or getting guard or, you 
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Like there's just, there's just 
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exhaustion that comes with that.
You're not going to get, you 

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know, doing hill, Sprints or on 
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CrossFit type stuff, I guess 
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analogous or similar or maybe 
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know, because you're switching 
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against the clock and all that 
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shorter, the rounds are the 
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they're certainly a place for 
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oriented. 
Then you certainly want it. 

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Like, if you were an 800-meter 
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your metabolic training to 800 
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You know, Advanced you do some 
long stuff, but like, it really 

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gets time. 
Indexed around that like, you 

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know, minute and a half to two 
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similarly, for for Jiu-Jitsu and
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rounds are awesome because you 
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down, use weight, use angle 
changes, but it's That like full

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body, explosive deal. 
Like it allows for a lot more 

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technical development versus 
just like who is the bigger 

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stronger scrappier person you 
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And and if folks one of the 
interesting things, like if you 

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and I are doing some training, 
let's say, we're just doing some

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positional drilling. 
Like, I'm on Cross side top, 

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you're on cross-eyed bottom and 
your goal is to get out. 

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But the main thing is that I'm 
really Trying to refine my, my 

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cross side top game either 
holding or getting some 

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submissions out of it. 
So we go through this and it's 

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like, okay we're going to do an 
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five-minute realm with me on top
and you're going to start off at

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like ten percent resistance and 
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resistance, when you hit like 60
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goes to almost zero and then 
we're like, okay, let's dial 

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this thing back and and if folks
would drill, Do more of their 

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training, like 90% their 
training in that scenario, where

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it's scenario-based. 
It's like, yeah. 

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You're, you know, you're getting
some good reps on the bottom 

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with figuring out how to get out
and to be safe and all that. 

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But you're really trying not to 
use your attribute, to try not 

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to use speed, strength 
explosiveness, and all that type

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of stuff. 
And then when that timer is up, 

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then we switch places and now 
it's your turn to be on top and 

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and get those really good reps. 
In general, whether you're 

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talking about like pistol work, 
or computer programming, or what

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have you if you introduce much 
more than about a twenty percent

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error rate. 
Like if if much more than two 

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reps out of ten fail, when 
you're trying to get a new 

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skill, figured out, you won't 
imprint proper skill. 

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You're going to imprint garbage 
and this is where like the, the 

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computer programming world, you 
know, garbage in garbage out it 

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really applicable to To this 
story. 

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So it's it's interesting longer 
rounds. 

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Making them not so much focused 
on just like live rolling where 

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everything in the world can can 
happen instead like. 

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Okay I'm going to start off it 
Rob, you're going to be on my 

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back and you're going to start 
with whatever whatever, you 

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know, like we've been as I get 
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I've been starting with like 
some of the blue belt, some of 

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the Purple belt, I'm like, okay,
get on my back getting A full 

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rear naked, choke locked in, 
just back it off. 

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Just, you know, a couple of 
millimeters shy of finishing me,

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and then, can I get out of that?
And, and so, I'm getting to 

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where I'm able to get really 
deep into a submission and use 

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posture and and Framing and 
connection to get out of that 

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versus me being like a Tasmanian
devil and just like exploding 

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out of it. 
And, you know, like arms and 

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legs flying all over the place. 
Get the other benefit to that 

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I'm 160. 165 pounds and I'm 51 
years old, I'm in good shape for

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my age but like when I was when 
I was 31 I could clean and jerk 

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almost 350 pounds. 
I cannot clean answer gamer near

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that. 
Now, you know what back injury 

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and 20 years down range and all 
that type of stuff, but the only

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hope that I have for my aging 
person to be able to deal with 

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younger stronger. 
Individuals is better technique.

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I can't outspeed them. 
I cannot outmuscle them and so I

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don't blabbering on like an 
idiot but it's a you no longer 

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round, very focused training. 
And and instead of open rolling 

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doing 80 or 90 percent of your 
training time, I think should be

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very position-specific and the 
better you get at the drilling 

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parameters, you know? 
So again like, you know, and 

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let's just say back control 
again. 

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Like you could start off with 
back control the Sin has a 

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harness, okay? 
Three, two, one, go. 

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And then the person mainly is 
working Escape, so you're trying

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to submit them that you're 
trying to control them, but it 

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starts off maybe like twenty 
five percent resistance and they

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have some success and you start 
ratcheting up. 

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But then over time that turns 
into. 

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Okay, I've got one arm in of the
rear naked choke go. 

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Now we've got two arms in of the
rear naked choke go. 

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And you start learning how to 
get out of Stuff like that. 

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And then hopefully also you just
learned how to, hopefully, not 

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let somebody get onto your back 
and get the rear naked choke in 

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and all that. 
Like, there's all this early 

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prevention, that's really, 
really important. 

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But then, it's also it's pretty 
fascinating to learn the really,

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really late Escape stuff because
somebody could be almost there 

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almost have it sunk in and 
they're just pouring everything 

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they've got into it and if 
you're able to address that with

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posture and and Should not 
strength or explosiveness, it 

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steals the soul out of the 
person. 

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You know, when when I like tell 
somebody, okay, get on my back 

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and I'll have them like finish a
roux naked choke. 

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I'm like great. 
Okay, good, I'm going to tap 

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your leg and I'll say go and 
then I'm going to try to get out

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and I go slow, I'm not thrashing
around but I'm just you know 

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posturing with my neck and 
everything to get out of this 

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thing in the person's like 
goddamn. 

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That's kind of demoralizing. 
Like I gay I had I had you right

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where I would normally finish. 
One. 

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And it was my A-game and I 
couldn't put put the guy away 

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and that's where you get some 
really high level technique 

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driven in and I guess 11, final 
five around all that stuff is 

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too. 
Especially as we age a more 

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defense oriented game. 
Really gives a lot of benefit 

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because for somebody to finish 
me, let's say a cross colored 

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choke from Mount or from closed 
guard. 

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You got to put one hand in, they
got to put another hand in, they

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had to have my posture broken 
down like there's a bunch of 

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different things that need to 
happen for that to occur. 

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I only need to intervene in one 
of those steps to shut the whole

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thing down. 
I don't even need to shut all of

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it down and it doesn't 
necessarily mean that I'm going 

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to jump on top of them and 
dominate them and win. 

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But it also means that I didn't 
lose right, and this is a lot of

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the Hicks and Gracie 
perspective, like you may not be

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able to beat everybody but you 
You yourself can become 

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uncomfortable like you can 
develop such a great defensive 

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game because the the defensive 
player has a bit of an 

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advantage, like there's usually 
even really smart, submissions 

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are only one or two steps when 
it starts becoming like three 

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and four steps like it. 
You're not going to get it on 

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high level people typically but 
still even one, two, three 

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steps. 
I only need to intervene in one 

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of those moments to be able to 
shut that attack down. 

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And then they, Holding onto it 
and in fail, or they have to 

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shift to something else. 
And I just need to be one step 

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ahead of the person. 
Again, I may not end up 

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developing like a game that 
would win World Championships 

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and puts a lot. 
Lots of people away via 

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submission, but I can become 
really, really tough to submit 

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myself. 
Yeah, that makes total sense and

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that's that's where we're 
definitely lacking with. 

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Are hungry with people like, 
which just the blind leading, 

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the blind right now because you 
don't have a official instructor

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and we don't have the we don't 
No, we don't know, basically, so

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we're just all going out there 
and trying to dominate one 

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another and let our egos get in 
the way, which is, never a good 

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thing. 
But I feel like having something

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like that orchestrated, in which
you are put into near submission

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and then having to strategically
work your way out of it and just

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rent those drills day after day 
after day that I think would be 

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incredibly beneficial well this 
summer you. 

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We should go out there and hang 
out with you guys and I'll show 

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you at least give you a 
framework for like how to 

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structure the training you know?
Like it with YouTube and 

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different things like that. 
Like, you can learn like every 

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technique Under the Sun. 
A lot of it has a lot of feel to

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it, but a lot of the success 
that comes out of this is just 

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really the way that people 
approach the training practice 

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itself. 
Yeah. 

445
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,900
Well shoot, man, you got an open
invitation, anytime you want to 

446
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:57,800
come here and show us what we 
don't know, for sure. 

447
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,700
Cool, cool. 
Okay, you mentioned home school 

448
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:04,400
and took home a dive into that, 
man? 

449
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,300
Like how long have you been 
doing that since since they were

450
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:09,200
born? 
Not since they were born Noth. 

451
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:13,600
So Zoe is 10. 
Second is 8 now and they both 

452
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,200
started at a Montessori School. 
When we were in Reno and we 

453
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:21,200
started off liking it, they did 
the preschool program. 

454
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
They did the kindergarten 
program and I think both of 

455
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,300
those were really good and then 
when so we went into first 

456
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:33,700
grade, Nikki has a friend who is
from Italy, she's Italian like 

457
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,200
from Rome, she was this gal was 
raised. 

458
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,900
In a Montessori program from 
from like you do all the way up 

459
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:46,900
until she went to college and 
she adds like two phds and a 

460
00:25:46,908 --> 00:25:49,400
master's degree in all this 
stuff, very academically 

461
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:54,000
successful, really wonderful 
person, but she loves 

462
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:56,700
Montessori. 
But what she had two daughters 

463
00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,500
about the age of our daughters, 
and they were both really 

464
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,100
struggling in school. 
And when she was talking to them

465
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,200
what she kind of figured out 
the, the Montessori. 

466
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,800
Methodology is interesting. 
It's different than the standard

467
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,400
School curriculum. 
They tend to do a little bit 

468
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800
more self-directed exploration, 
but they do have like, you're 

469
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,100
going to do some math, you're 
going to do some reading and do 

470
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,500
some spelling, you do some art. 
Like there's there's some 

471
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:24,300
specific stuff there. 
And what we discovered is that 

472
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,200
we were spending a remarkable 
amount of money to have our 

473
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,200
kids. 
Just basically, once they got 

474
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,400
past the kindergarten level, 
like they were just kind of 

475
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,500
fucking off like the teachers 
were not holding their feet to 

476
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,500
the fire. 
With regards to re exposure to 

477
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,200
things. 
Like at the kid really liked 

478
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,400
math, that was great because 
then the kid would go do it. 

479
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,700
But if they didn't, they just 
didn't didn't succeed at it. 

480
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:52,000
And we were super frustrated in 
the public schools in the Reno 

481
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,300
area. 
Were not great. 

482
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:55,500
And this was actually right 
around the time. 

483
00:26:55,500 --> 00:27:00,200
Also, that Google basically made
my website disappear from 

484
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,000
search, I don't know if you 
heard about any of that, but it 

485
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,700
was like, the Google owl update 
and we just got up one day and 

486
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,100
87% of my site traffic was gone 
as was 90 percent one percent of

487
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:15,800
my income. 
And at the exact same time that 

488
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,700
that happened, my ability to 
sell things, like the keto 

489
00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:22,700
masterclass and things like that
on Facebook just disappeared. 

490
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:25,800
And there was this kind of this 
was a 2018. 

491
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,200
So I would I'm early to a lot of
things and I was very early to 

492
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,600
cancel culture. 
There was this thing. 

493
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000
Again, I mentioned the Google 
owl update, and there were a 

494
00:27:36,008 --> 00:27:39,400
good number of people. 
Oil in the low carb seen that 

495
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,800
were kind of hoovered up in this
thing. 

496
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,200
And it wasn't that they made 
your sight literally disappear 

497
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,800
but where I had had hundreds if 
not thousands of articles that 

498
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,500
would pop up, you know front 
page on a Google search return. 

499
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:58,200
You know, like low carb and type
1, diabetes low-carb type 1 

500
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,400
diabetes athletes, you know, 
CrossFit and paleo. 

501
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:05,100
You know, I have lots and lots 
of Front Page search returns 

502
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,900
with this stuff, it just went 
away. 

503
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,300
So do was no all of that work on
creating link backs and and, you

504
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,600
know, Google ranking everything.
Just just disappeared unless the

505
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,100
person knew exactly what to look
for. 

506
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,200
They would never find my 
materials. 

507
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,300
So we decided and kind of out of
necessity, we sold our house and

508
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:31,200
Reno took that that money and 
pushed it into some other 

509
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,800
business activities that we were
hoping would we kick over and 

510
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,600
fortunately, they've done pretty
well, but we had, And on 

511
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,200
homeschooling the kids in the 
transition because we were 

512
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,300
arriving kind of like mid year 
and we didn't want to drop the 

513
00:28:45,308 --> 00:28:49,600
kids in mid-year. 
And also with our oldest like we

514
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,500
realize that she was probably 
like a about a half a year to a 

515
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:55,900
year behind in like spelling and
math and she's a sharp kid. 

516
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,400
Like there's no, there's no 
drama there but she would have 

517
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,500
felt dumb getting plugged into 
the school where like everybody 

518
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:03,700
was ahead of her. 
So we had just planned. 

519
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,100
Okay, we're going to do this for
six months, get it, get the 

520
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:09,900
kids, totally up to Minimal the 
Texas schools in theory were 

521
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:13,000
supposed to be pretty good but 
then covid happened and all to 

522
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400
you know the insanity around 
covid. 

523
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,900
And so we were just like okay 
fuck it just we're just gonna go

524
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,900
to home school and then we did 
eventually make our way up to 

525
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:29,100
Montana and Nikki is a saint. 
Like she just does a great job 

526
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:33,200
with this stuff but she does the
bulk of the reading spelling. 

527
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,100
All of that. 
I do the the math and little bit

528
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,200
of The science. 
Like as we get further down down

529
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,800
range and we get into like the 
chemistry and physics and stuff 

530
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,500
like that. 
I'll probably shift more into 

531
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,500
kind of covering that material 
but we just have found some 

532
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:50,500
really remarkable resources 
online. 

533
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,400
We use this thing called Matthew
C for the math. 

534
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,200
Curriculum for the spelling 
writing stuff. 

535
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,000
There's this thing called spell 
to write to read and it actually

536
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,600
makes English make sense. 
Like when I learned Spanish and 

537
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,200
German, I didn't, I finally kind
of understood English. 

538
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,600
I'm like, oh, that's what that 
is 10. 

539
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200
That's why use a pronoun here 
versus there. 

540
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,300
You know, and it all the stuff I
didn't really make any any 

541
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:19,000
sense, like a remembered, like, 
I before E, except after C and, 

542
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,100
you know, couple of things like 
that. 

543
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:24,000
But the this program that Nicky 
uses on the spelling writing 

544
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000
reading is really phenomenal. 
And the kids are pretty 

545
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,800
crackerjack at that stuff and 
then we layer in some some 

546
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,100
history and some you know, like 
so we use super into sled dogs. 

547
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:42,200
And so we did a math and kind of
engineering project where she 

548
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,700
she built a sled dog harness and
we had to measure it and cut it 

549
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,800
and, you know, do all the stuff,
but it would have otherwise been

550
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,600
really onerous process for her, 
but because it was about sled 

551
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,100
dogs. 
She was like, dude, I'll do this

552
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:59,500
all day long. 
She lucky can't, you can't stop 

553
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,000
me from being excited about 
this. 

554
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,000
So we weave some history in in 
their different interests. 

555
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,700
Some, some Science and 
philosophy. 

556
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:14,600
Like we really try to talk a lot
about economics and kind of 

557
00:31:14,608 --> 00:31:18,900
Market Centric activities. 
There's another set of books 

558
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,500
called the from the Tuttle 
twins. 

559
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:24,400
That the kids absolutely love to
read and they do some exposure 

560
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,300
into kind of kind of Market 
based thinking and what not and 

561
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,100
the kids really seem to like it.
And although it is, it 

562
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:36,800
definitely is a Time demand, you
know, the kids can sleep in as 

563
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,100
late as they. 
They need to sleep in and we do 

564
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:42,100
make them go to bed early. 
Like we really are like the blue

565
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,000
hair. 
Seemed particularly in the 

566
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,500
winter. 
Like the sun goes down, like 

567
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,700
4:15 in the winter here. 
I mean, it's like down. 

568
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,400
There is no light by about 4:15,
when it's when it's the, you 

569
00:31:54,408 --> 00:31:58,400
know, November December. 
So by 8:00, like I'm like, dude,

570
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,700
we're going to bed. 
I'm done. 

571
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,600
I'm the same way. 
It's all good, we done. 

572
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Yeah, and in the summer, we stay
up a little bit later because 

573
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400
the days are much much longer 
but Even then like our kids 

574
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,700
sleep 12 hours a night and when 
we when we see our friends whose

575
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:18,500
kids are up pretty late and then
they have to get them up at 6 

576
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:22,900
a.m. or 5:45 to get them to 
school by like 7:15 or 

577
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,400
something. 
Like these kids are crushed. 

578
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:29,100
They are absolutely knackered 
and our kids when we have to do 

579
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:32,700
an early wake-up occasionally 
like we did a ski school for on 

580
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:37,300
the weekends and it was awesome 
but I could so see the 

581
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,800
difference in there. 
How big the amount of bickering?

582
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,600
They had the poor decisions, 
they made impulse control and it

583
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,400
was because they were three 
hours Short slept because of the

584
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,200
demands of getting up to go 
through the ski school. 

585
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,200
And so there's just a ton of 
different reasons. 

586
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,300
Like we have better control over
their food. 

587
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,300
I feel like Nikki Nikki, he's 
got an econ degree. 

588
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,800
I've got a biochem degree, she 
speaks Italian Spanish and 

589
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,500
Russian. 
I speak some German and Spanish.

590
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:13,600
Is she like we've got the bases 
pretty, pretty covered. 

591
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,100
And we really grabbed some 
phenomenal resources to help us.

592
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,700
And what we've really leaned 
into is finding the stuff that 

593
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,500
the kids have a natural 
predilection towards, and then 

594
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:28,000
orienting, as much of the 
material around that as we 

595
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,300
possibly can, and it's gone 
pretty pretty. 

596
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:32,900
Well, that's awesome. 
And we've got a eight-month-old 

597
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,900
them and we're trying to figure 
out what we're going to do from 

598
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,500
a you know schooling standpoint 
and I went to public schools and

599
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:41,200
I was growing up and that you 
know, did Well for me like I'm 

600
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800
happy with how I turned out so 
to speak but I don't like as 

601
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600
things have changed, I don't 
know that I'd want to put my son

602
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600
in public schools now like some 
of the stuff they're teaching is

603
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,100
totally irrelevant. 
Some of it isn't taught deeply 

604
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,400
enough so we're leaning towards 
the homeschooling, right? 

605
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,200
And there's there's a pretty 
reputable Montessori school here

606
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,700
close to us. 
But honestly, man, I'm kind of 

607
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,800
liking what you're saying here. 
So is there like a curriculum 

608
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,900
that you like is there a company
or a software ninja? 

609
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:08,400
T that has this curriculum that 
you tend to gravitate to and 

610
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,100
then add to that and subtract 
from that as Indoors. 

611
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,699
It just pretty much all pick and
choose. 

612
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,100
Yeah. 
So like the, the math is the 

613
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:21,699
distinct called Matthew, see, 
like letter use C, SE e, and it 

614
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:26,300
goes to all the way from 
beginning counting, and basic 

615
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:28,300
addition. 
Subtraction all the way up 

616
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,800
through second semester 
calculus. 

617
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,199
So, like I can take you start to
finish in my expectation. 

618
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,100
For the girls is that they will 
finish High School having done 

619
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,300
per semester calculus, and both 
of them are on. 

620
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,500
Track with finishing it probably
by like, eighth or ninth grade, 

621
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,900
which would be 3 years ahead of 
where I was with, with all that 

622
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:49,300
stuff, you know? 
And they may never do a damn 

623
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:52,199
thing related to math or 
engineering or anything, but 

624
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,600
they are never going to be faced
with a math problem that they're

625
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,800
going to be challenged. 
Like it is the rest of their 

626
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,000
life after they do that and then
the spelled right to read is 

627
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,900
just kind of laying the 
foundations of, you know, 

628
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,900
grammar syntax. 
All that type of stuff. 

629
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:14,100
And then Nikki has has pulled 
in. 

630
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:19,100
Like there were, there was a 
book of reading list thing that 

631
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:23,000
had some history that had some 
really interesting story. 

632
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,300
So we were kind of 
age-appropriate books that we 

633
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:30,300
would read to them and that the 
kids would also read and, and 

634
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,700
so, we supplement with that and 
then like, if I find a cool TV 

635
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:38,200
show, like Netflix just last 
year, had this, this thing that 

636
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,400
Morgan Freeman narrates. 
Our Verse and it's phenomenal. 

637
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Like it's really cool in the 
kids, just eat this stuff up and

638
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,500
so they get a little bit of TV 
time and basically they split it

639
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:53,000
between like Nature and Science 
shows and baking shows like they

640
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,500
love watching like baking and 
possible and stuff like that. 

641
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,300
And I think there's some you 
know cool elements to that. 

642
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:05,300
But we I'm of the opinion that 
if kids learn to spell right and

643
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:08,900
and have outstanding reading 
comprehension and they have good

644
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:10,200
written and verbal 
communication. 

645
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,600
Mission. 
They're going to be buttoned up 

646
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600
on that like they're good. 
And then if kids have a good, 

647
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,900
basic mathematics background, 
they can do anything. 

648
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,400
Like they can they can plug into
and do anything. 

649
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,500
If one of them decides to be an 
engineer, they'll be super well 

650
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,700
set up for that. 
If they want to go into 

651
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:30,000
business, they'll be set up, you
know, for doing that. 

652
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,900
I just feel like the ability to 
process information, do critical

653
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:38,000
thinking and then communicate 
really effectively and then just

654
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,200
having the basic skill sets of 
Statistical analysis. 

655
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,100
Like like if somebody bombed you
with, you know, sixty percent of

656
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,000
the time, this works 90% of the 
time, you know, like what's that

657
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,300
bullshit? 
You do. 

658
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:55,900
And so I just think that that 
critical thing thinking 

659
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:00,600
outstanding reading 
comprehension and then ability 

660
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,800
to communicate, both verbally 
and written plus a good math 

661
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400
background, you can just plug 
into anything and like the 

662
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,100
history happens with that like I
think back to all The history 

663
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,400
classes I had. 
And he only thing that stuck in 

664
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,900
my head were the things that 
were really important to me. 

665
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,700
We have maybe put a little bit 
of a disproportionate emphasis 

666
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:26,800
on things like the Constitution 
founding of the United States. 

667
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,900
And I know there's a lot of 
like, controversy around all 

668
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,100
that stuff and I really 
legitimately do. 

669
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,300
Try to give all angles on that 
and then let my kids figure it 

670
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:38,300
out from there. 
And what's really kind of cool 

671
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:40,400
about that? 
I really I will tell them. 

672
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:46,000
Then here's my take on this, you
know, some hot button topic. 

673
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,300
Here's my personal, take on 
this. 

674
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:50,400
But here's a take from other 
people and I'll even pull up 

675
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,300
like YouTube videos and have 
other people kind of articulate 

676
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:56,100
this thing. 
I'm like, what do you girls make

677
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,100
of this? 
And what I've been finding is 

678
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,900
they end up just kind of 
naturally coming up with this 

679
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:05,900
kind of libertarian. 
Market-based like you do you all

680
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:10,000
take care of me kind of approach
and it's not me breathing down 

681
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,400
their And threatening them 
raining. 

682
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,900
It's then being critical 
thinkers and and being 

683
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:19,700
emotionally empathic to the 
plight of the world and that the

684
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:23,000
world isn't fair. 
But one of the best ways to deal

685
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,500
with Injustice and, you know, 
not fairness is to work, really 

686
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:30,900
fucking hard to better your 
situation. 

687
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,700
And if your situation is better 
and you have an opportunity to 

688
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:36,500
help the people around you, then
by all means do that, you know, 

689
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,300
and it because that's a, you 
know, good, good neighbor, good 

690
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:43,300
empathic thing and And so that's
it's been interesting to me, 

691
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:48,600
man, that they have given a 
pretty and I know, probably some

692
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,900
listeners like, oh, I bet he's 
just a, you know, big jerk and, 

693
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,100
you know, white male and all 
this stuff, and it's like, okay,

694
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:57,000
whatever, whatever. 
But what I'm finding is that, 

695
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,200
the less I leaned on the kid, my
kids, and the less I threatened 

696
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,800
them, unless I shoehorn them and
do any type of ideology, you 

697
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,800
know, like I'm personally not 
that religious but I have given 

698
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,300
them my thoughts about why? 
Not and, and also pointed out 

699
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:16,100
that some of our dearest friends
are very religious and we have 

700
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:19,100
people who are Christian. 
And we have some friends that 

701
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,300
are Buddhist because they're 
from Cambodia and I'm like, you 

702
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:25,900
know, and so I've said to them, 
this is for you to figure out. 

703
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,700
I'm not going to strong-arm you 
into it and they've really kind 

704
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:34,100
of come to some very beautiful 
realizations and none of that is

705
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,500
anxiety-provoking, they don't 
have a bunch of guilt around it 

706
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,100
and, you know, all this stuff 
that that I had as a kid. 

707
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:44,500
So so I think it's a pretty 
effective way of raising like 

708
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:48,900
real legit, you know, functional
human beings and what will be 

709
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:54,700
fascinating to me is if this is 
going to be like a superpower 

710
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,800
when they emerge on the scene, 
you know we're really going to 

711
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,600
need kids that are have these 
skill sets because I think we 

712
00:40:01,607 --> 00:40:05,400
have a lot of problems to unwind
or if they're going to stick out

713
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,800
like such sore thumbs that 
they're going to be the first 

714
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,500
ones against the wall with me, 
when like to The government is 

715
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,700
like, no, you guys are too 
dangerous like you to free 

716
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:16,300
thinking like we're shutting all
this stuff down. 

717
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,200
But, you know, for for right 
now, I enjoy it. 

718
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,000
The kids enjoy it, I feel like 
they're really thriving in this,

719
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200
this process. 
We try to do a lot of 

720
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,100
extracurricular activities, like
the whole family has learned to 

721
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:34,300
ice skate this year. 
We did some skate skiing Sagan 

722
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:37,900
is doing Jiu-Jitsu, so we use 
really, crushing it at swimming,

723
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,300
and so we just try to channel 
them into Two areas, they have 

724
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,500
some some natural passion know, 
I love them and I think that is 

725
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:45,900
absolutely the way to go about 
it. 

726
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,700
I feel like the parents that 
I've known, who have tried to 

727
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,800
strong-arm their kids into 
thinking one way or the other, 

728
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,600
towards some ideological belief,
that always backfires on them. 

729
00:40:56,500 --> 00:41:00,200
And I feel like, if you can just
simply speak to your kids like 

730
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,300
you would speak to any other, 
you know, adult in a civil 

731
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:08,500
conversation way that is 
respectful, like they just learn

732
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,300
to think for themselves that 
have critical. 

733
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:12,000
Kind of smarter than we give 
them credit for you. 

734
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,500
Just have to like, explain to 
them. 

735
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,900
Why you think that way and what 
other people have different 

736
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,300
beliefs than they are able to 
come up with their own, take on 

737
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:20,400
things? 
I feel like so many parents, 

738
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,500
just tell them, yes or no, but 
they don't explain the why, but 

739
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:26,600
if you just simply let them, you
know, Cimarron things. 

740
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,300
It's pretty impressive. 
What they're able to come up 

741
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:29,800
with totally independent from 
you. 

742
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:34,900
It is and and when I'm not 
there, either when I'm dead or 

743
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,100
if I'm not there in that moment 
and they're faced with a 

744
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,100
challenging moral. 
Ation. 

745
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,600
I've I'm going to have a lot of 
trust that they're going to be 

746
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,800
able to make a good decision if 
they don't, then I am hopeful 

747
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,000
that they will. 
We have a good enough 

748
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,400
relationship that can be like, 
Dad. 

749
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,000
I fucked up like this happened. 
You know, it's like, okay, well,

750
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,100
let's let's figure that out. 
Like, let's unpack that and 

751
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,600
figure out how we can avoid 
making a mistake like that 

752
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,600
again. 
Yeah, 100% when it comes to like

753
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,900
the public school setting or 
traditional private school 

754
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:09,300
settings, I feel like one of the
knocks against homeschooling is 

755
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:13,000
that they're just not. 
Spending ample time amongst 

756
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,500
their peer group and there's 
like a, like a pecking order 

757
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,500
that kind of takes place 
naturally and I can see that 

758
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,500
argument for sure. 
But I'm assuming, I mean, 

759
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:23,400
especially with homeschooling 
programs. 

760
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,200
Now that there's so many 
opportunities for kids. 

761
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,200
I think there's benefit for them
to not just be stuck within 

762
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,000
their own peer group, like but 
having opportunities to be 

763
00:42:31,008 --> 00:42:33,700
within their own peer group but 
also interacting with those 

764
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,000
younger and older than I think 
that opportunity opens up when 

765
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,600
you take them out of the 
conventional system. 

766
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,500
Yeah, for sure. 
And I have noodled on that a lot

767
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:48,200
and I think back to my I was 
public school also in it. 

768
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,500
I think at the end of the day it
worked well for me, but I didn't

769
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:52,400
enjoy a lot of it. 
Like there was a fair amount of 

770
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,200
bullying and different things 
and that does build character. 

771
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,100
But it's also like man, you can 
build character other ways 

772
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,300
besides like dealing with kids 
that are you know living out 

773
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:03,900
like Lord of the Flies. 
Yeah. 

774
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:09,800
And even even my girls when they
start bickering with each other 

775
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,500
I let him go for a while and 
then I'm like, hey, are you guys

776
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,300
being as kind to each other? 
As you can be? 

777
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:18,100
So I don't like yellow Adam shut
up, you know, or whatever. 

778
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:20,400
But I asked him a question, like
I really try and they're like, 

779
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,700
now I'm like, could you do 
better than what you're doing? 

780
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:24,600
Like, do you guys enjoy that 
one? 

781
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,400
There was a period of time 
because we homeschool because 

782
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,100
Nikki and I work from home, we 
spend a lot of time together 

783
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,600
like we have to get creative 
about doing things where the 

784
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,500
kids aren't with us and and you 
know, getting other other inputs

785
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,500
and whatnot. 
But the kids were Both girls 

786
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:44,300
were at each other's throats for
a week and I was like enough 

787
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:48,100
like this, just sucks it. 
And so, I looked at Nikki, and I

788
00:43:48,107 --> 00:43:51,100
winked at her, and I just 
started yelling at Nikki, and 

789
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,400
she started yelling at me, and 
she was like, this butter, this 

790
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,900
Butters melting on the counter, 
like the type of an asshole. 

791
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:58,700
Are you? 
And I'm like, oh well you you're

792
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,600
dropping hair all over the place
because Eurostar the Italian and

793
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,400
dude, we were yelling at each 
other and it was like the most 

794
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,700
ridiculous shit and both the 
girls just like shrink back into

795
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,300
a chair. 
Then I stopped and I'm like, was

796
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:15,100
that enjoyable for you? 
And they're like, no, I'm like 

797
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:19,400
that's YouTube that you to 
everyday for hours a day and I 

798
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,400
want to say it was like three 
months after that it was please.

799
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,200
And thank you. 
And, hey sis, thanks. 

800
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:31,200
And and so you know like kids 
don't know how to treat each 

801
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,500
other and I'm also not in this 
thing where it's like, you know,

802
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:38,200
you always intervene in conflict
and all that type of stuff. 

803
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,000
But there's also scenarios where
it's like, The kids are just 

804
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,800
being shitheads to each other. 
And, and that, that's not cool. 

805
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Like there should probably be 
some intervention there. 

806
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Like it. 
There's one kid. 

807
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,400
That's, that's being a bully. 
It's like him. 

808
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,400
Why are you treating other 
people this way, like, what's 

809
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,900
wrong with you, such that you're
doing this and don't let them 

810
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:02,000
weasel out of it, like you, 
because can we do that in a work

811
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,600
environment? 
Can we do that at a university 

812
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,900
setting? 
Fuck no. 

813
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,300
Like, no way. 
So it this isn't really Table at

814
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:12,000
any age. 
And this is similar to the way 

815
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,700
that I've always talked to our 
kids, we never baby talk to him.

816
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:19,700
Like we have make-believe time, 
where, you know, I'm, I'm some 

817
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:22,100
character out of Harry Potter 
and so were they or whatever? 

818
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,800
So, you know, it's not like all 
dry and stuffy all the time, but

819
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:28,500
I never talked to him like, like
babies. 

820
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,200
I never have. 
I never will. 

821
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,700
And similarly, I have an 
expectation that they treat each

822
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:37,900
other like human beings, the way
that, you know, and it's like a 

823
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:41,400
well-run military group. 
There's a pecking order and yes 

824
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,100
there we can be a lot of 
ballbusting and stuff like that 

825
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:47,600
and there's accountability. 
But when these things function 

826
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,100
well there's mutual respect, 
that is born of like some, some 

827
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,100
legitimate love for one another 
and then also competency in 

828
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,500
different things. 
You know, in that bonds people 

829
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:02,400
together. 
And if you let people Foster 

830
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,600
these, these bad relationships, 
you know, like picking on each 

831
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,600
other and mind games and stuff 
like that, people will grow to 

832
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,000
hate one another and And like 
bad stuff comes out of that. 

833
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
You know it's unproductive for 
business. 

834
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,600
It's not good for Learning. 
And so this is you know, and I 

835
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,000
still I don't know if you know 
the die is not cast, this race 

836
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,100
is not run. 
Like, I don't know if this is is

837
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:28,300
going to hamstring my kids and 
in some capacity, but we've 

838
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:30,700
worked it. 
It's stuff like that where I 

839
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:33,500
will mention, you know, if they 
if they encounter some kids that

840
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:37,000
are what I would consider being 
like mean or disrespectful or 

841
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,500
whatever. 
I'm like well it's up to you 

842
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:39,800
whether or not you have a 
relationship. 

843
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Damn and you definitely you know
self-defense and you know both 

844
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,200
both verbal and kind of spatial.
And so it's up to you how you 

845
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:51,900
navigate that but I wouldn't 
play into it and they get that 

846
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:53,000
stuff. 
Yeah. 

847
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
And I feel like yeah that does 
not catch you don't really ever 

848
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,000
know what's going to happen 
until they get out there into 

849
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,600
the real world and make their 
own way. 

850
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,300
But I feel like if you're 
raising them in a way that 

851
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,600
encourages them to take 
responsibility for their own 

852
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,500
actions and be independent, all 
while maintaining their 

853
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:11,200
integrity Dirty and high moral 
character. 

854
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,100
Like that is just going to be 
light years ahead of the masses 

855
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:16,700
that aren't putting an emphasis 
on that. 

856
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:20,100
So worst case scenario, I can't 
imagine being too bad for them 

857
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:22,200
for sure. 
Yeah, yeah. 

858
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,400
It seems like a good spot to be 
for sure. 

859
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:27,100
So with you being as busy as you
are with, you got everything 

860
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:30,500
going on and you do, I mean, how
did how does your day unfold? 

861
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:33,200
Like, when you wake up, your 
wife's busier, because you get 

862
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,000
two kids at home school, like, 
what is a typical day look like 

863
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,100
for y'all? 
So like on non Jiu-Jitsu days, 

864
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,000
the maybe the Last year, Nikki 
and I have been getting up 

865
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,000
around 6:00 6:15 cup of coffee. 
And if we do some some, like 

866
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,300
Zone to cardio straight out of 
the gate, we do 15 minute 

867
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,800
meditation first. 
And then we do some some Zone to

868
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,800
cardio for about 45 minutes to 
an hour. 

869
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600
And then even on the end of that
because we've been finding it 

870
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,100
tough to fit in our resistance 
training. 

871
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,100
It's not Optimum timing because 
we're doing, you know, like the 

872
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:11,500
endurance thing and then we Ash 
with some strength training, but

873
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:15,400
we've been doing like a set of 
front squat to set a push press.

874
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,100
You know, what are basically, 11
lift and we take it up to like, 

875
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,800
kind of a soft, like, five rep, 
max it at the end of that. 

876
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:27,600
And those were on non Jiu-Jitsu 
days that usually takes us till 

877
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,500
about 7:30 7:45. 
Then we start, getting 

878
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,300
breakfast, spun up and, and 
really the food thing. 

879
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:40,800
Like I have this fantasy that we
could live We live, but there 

880
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:47,600
was like almost like a cruise 
ship Buffet, just ran 24/7 and 

881
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,000
we could just like bang in there
and like get really good food 

882
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,300
and jam out and like no dishes, 
no prep, no, nothing like this, 

883
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,900
the food prep is a pain in the 
balls for sure. 

884
00:48:56,900 --> 00:49:00,900
But Nikki and I have set up like
a schedule where we know what 

885
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:04,500
we're going to have for 
breakfast and dinner on any 

886
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:06,400
given day. 
And I just have to have food 

887
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,700
pulled out and kind of kind of 
ready to go and usually lunch. 

888
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:12,800
You just whatever leftovers are 
from the previous dinner. 

889
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Maybe I make extra stuff for 
breakfast. 

890
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,000
And usually the breakfasting 
goes in waking the kids up goes 

891
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,500
from about 8 a.m. to 9 and then 
9 a.m. is when school kicks in, 

892
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:28,600
for the kids. 
Nicky usually takes the first 

893
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,600
shift on on that. 
And I get in and do my work for 

894
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,200
element in the healthy rebellion
and the the stuff that I need to

895
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,400
do and then I'll kind of tag 
team out with Nikki somewhere 

896
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,100
around. 10:30, or 11 it. 
If it's a non Jiu-Jitsu day for,

897
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,100
for Nicky and I to Jutsu day, 
usually, we're wheels up heading

898
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:52,500
to the gym, about 11:15 1120. 
That takes us all the way to 

899
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,000
like Jiu-Jitsu is a pretty big 
time commitment, because we have

900
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,700
the noon to one is the main 
class and then 1 to 2 is open 

901
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:03,000
mat. 
And then it just so happens that

902
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,300
on the same days we have 
Jiu-Jitsu Sagan has Jiu-Jitsu at

903
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:09,700
4:00 and so we have to jam back 
home. 

904
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Home, the usually eat in the 
car. 

905
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,000
So I have to have food prepped, 
you know, everybody eats in the 

906
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,700
car. 
The kids are usually doing some 

907
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,500
home school type stuff for 
reading while we are at the at 

908
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:25,700
the gym and then Zoe goes to 
swimming. 

909
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,700
S goes to jiu jitsu. 
And during that hour and a half 

910
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,600
period, if we still have some 
starch in, your britches will 

911
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,900
lift some weights do like some 
kids stretch or or something 

912
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,800
like that, like, it's more 
mobility and kind of Corn trunk 

913
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,700
work because usually the after 
we've done our to get to on the 

914
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:46,700
knackered enough that I'm like I
don't really want to like squad 

915
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:50,000
or deadlift, you know, bencher 
or something like that. 

916
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,900
But I'll do that in some 
Mobility work and then we head 

917
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,600
home. 
And again, if I been on point, I

918
00:50:56,607 --> 00:51:00,900
either have food already cooked 
or or I've got like a slow 

919
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:02,800
cooker with like a pot roast or 
something. 

920
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,000
In it, we get home. 
Eat and then we'll put on some 

921
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,200
sort of a usually, a science. 
Or like a baking show and the 

922
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,500
whole family stretches and 
living room floor. 

923
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:17,400
So we all do some Mobility work 
and we have the lights down and 

924
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,900
it's kind of dark and you know, 
we're having some family time 

925
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,100
and watching a little bit of TV 
and have a little fun with that.

926
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,200
But instead of just sitting on 
the couch all like sit in a 

927
00:51:26,207 --> 00:51:29,400
straddle, I'll sit in the 
pancake or things like that. 

928
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,400
To just try to improve my 
Mobility because I had a really 

929
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,700
catastrophic back injury about 
15 years ago and I found it. 

930
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,000
If I do that like I'm pretty 
good to go. 

931
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,300
Like I can don't get injured. 
Jets. 

932
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:44,200
I don't get hurt while I'm 
lifting, and I'm already there 

933
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:46,700
watching TV anyway. 
So I just do some light 

934
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,600
stretching, and then brush 
teeth. 

935
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:54,300
Read some, you know, read a 
story to the kids bedtime and 

936
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:58,600
out, and then rinse lather 
repeat like the week's go by 

937
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:01,400
fast and in a blur with that but
we get it done. 

938
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,900
No, I like it, man. 
When they're, when they're doing

939
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:05,300
their home school stuff, do they
have? 

940
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:08,300
Like a like they just do all 
that the kitchen table or they 

941
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:11,400
get like their own little? 
Mock office set up like house 

942
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,600
that structure because I feel 
like that both actually. 

943
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,300
We, we rotate them. 
We have. 

944
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,600
We're fortunate that we have an 
extra. 

945
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,400
So Nikki has an office, I have 
an office and then we have like 

946
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,500
the kitchen table that it, you 
know, goes between standard 

947
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:28,500
eating and then also doing home 
school stuff and we will rotate 

948
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,200
the kids where they're doing to 
work. 

949
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,600
So it's a different, a little 
bit of a different experience. 

950
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,300
So it's not like exactly the 
same all the time. 

951
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:42,000
And then every Friday we get up 
earlier And jam out of the house

952
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,800
and we get the girls some hot 
cocoa. 

953
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,700
And we do their spelling test 
and their end of week math test 

954
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,800
and maybe have a little snacky 
treats before we, we go to our 

955
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,400
Jiu-Jitsu class it at noon. 
So, bright days is always in out

956
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,200
of the house day. 
We even, we've been having the 

957
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,800
girls do their Friday school 
work on Thursday, because we 

958
00:53:09,808 --> 00:53:11,800
don't go anywhere and we don't 
really leave the house. 

959
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,800
So we've had them do a double 
day that day so that we can go 

960
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,400
to the local skating rink and 
we'll do an hour and a half or 

961
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,900
two hours of skating and then go
to Jujitsu and and then kind of 

962
00:53:23,908 --> 00:53:26,900
wrap up the week from from there
and in the kids love that and 

963
00:53:26,908 --> 00:53:31,500
there's just enough so that 
we're not always at home again. 

964
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,200
The one of the weird things, 
it's awesome that Nikki and I 

965
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,100
are able to work from home. 
But one of the things that was 

966
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:41,500
kind of weird is You know, we'll
sit down at dinner and I'm like,

967
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,800
so, what did you guys do today? 
And they're like, well, old man.

968
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,800
Like I looked at your stupid 
face whole thing. 

969
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:50,600
It's like, there's nothing new. 
There's nothing, you know, 

970
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,200
different to talk about. 
So when they go to the open, 

971
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,900
it's actually a homeschool our 
for skating Nikki and I try to 

972
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,600
lead them 100% alone. 
Like we do our own skating, we 

973
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,900
try to be as separate as we can,
so that they can interact with 

974
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:06,600
the other kids kind of do their 
own thing. 

975
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,600
I'm like, so, who did you meet 
today and what you talked about?

976
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,200
So that we've Something new to 
bring into the situation. 

977
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,200
I love it. 
I love it. 

978
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,200
What about Saturday? 
And Sunday. 

979
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,900
They pretty much similar the 
rest of the week. 

980
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,300
We did Saturday. 
We do an open Matt Nikki night, 

981
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:23,800
but I also will rope the girls 
into bringing. 

982
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,100
They're getting big enough that 
I can do a little Jiu-Jitsu with

983
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,800
them. 
So, I'll kind of do my first 15 

984
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,100
or 20 minutes, kind of warming 
up to going over a little bit of

985
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,800
stuff with them. 
And then, usually, there's some 

986
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,600
other kids at the gym that they 
play with, and they might You 

987
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,300
know, play Monopoly, or 
whatever. 

988
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:42,900
And then we do 2 hours of open, 
Matt. 

989
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:46,000
And that open, Matt is mainly 
drilling like going back to that

990
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,400
that point that I made at the 
beginning of the show. 

991
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,100
Like, we're not, I do a little 
bit of open rolling at the very,

992
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:55,400
very end, but probably 90% of 
that is just positional drilling

993
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,800
on whatever, we've been covering
that week. 

994
00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:01,900
And then send a, we might go 
skiing when I might, you know, 

995
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:05,200
do something different. 
Or sometimes we just do laundry 

996
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,600
and like Hunker in and watch 
movies and don't really Do much 

997
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,400
of anything on that that Sunday 
and just get ready for the next 

998
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,200
week. 
Nice. 

999
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,600
Nice. 
What's taking up most of your 

1000
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,600
time professional like the 
healthy rebellion and just 

1001
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,800
creating content healthy 
rebellion and element. 

1002
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,700
Like I've been writing a lot of 
content for for element and 

1003
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:25,300
funny enough like I'm a 
co-founder with element but we 

1004
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:29,900
have this amazing you know 
c-suite administrative team that

1005
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:32,800
runs the thing. 
But I've actually been pretty 

1006
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,100
helpful in making strategic 
decisions about what we do with 

1007
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,700
product development. 
We do on marketing and stuff 

1008
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:41,900
like that. 
So I spend a fair amount of time

1009
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:44,900
working with the different teams
within element. 

1010
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:49,000
I do a lot of time on the 
customer experience side because

1011
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,500
we get a lot of inbound 
questions and have created 

1012
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,900
material. 
So our CX team has resources to 

1013
00:55:56,900 --> 00:56:00,700
answer the really repetitious 
questions and then if we get a 

1014
00:56:00,707 --> 00:56:03,900
new question or kind of a 
complex question around health 

1015
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:07,000
or something like that, that I 
do the best job that I can to 

1016
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,500
answer that stuff. 
But it's not a grinding workload

1017
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:13,100
there, but when you layer it in 
with everything else like it's, 

1018
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,800
it's about all I can do and then
Nikki, and I do a podcast a week

1019
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,900
ourselves with the healthy 
Rebellion radio and eyes that 

1020
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,300
it's, it's fun. 
It's cool for me in that I think

1021
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:29,900
content generation and kind of 
customer service is like the my 

1022
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:32,000
super powers. 
Like, I'm really good at that 

1023
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,500
stuff and it's the first time in
my life that that's all I've had

1024
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:41,000
to do like Nikki. 
Being you know, kind of a mom 

1025
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,200
popped sole proprietor doing 
this. 

1026
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,500
This health influencer thing for
20 years now we've had to do 

1027
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:51,100
everything. 
And now that we have this team 

1028
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,000
that we're working with with 
element, like other people 

1029
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,400
handle a bunch of the stuff that
we can do, but we're not experts

1030
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,100
at and so it's really kind of 
cool because I have some I'm 

1031
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:04,400
pretty good at a very narrow 
wedge of things, and there's a 

1032
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,300
million things that I'm terrible
at and for the first time in my 

1033
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:10,900
life, like I'm Doing the stuff 
that I'm both good at and I love

1034
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:13,300
doing the most. 
So it's been really rewarding 

1035
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:15,400
like it's been very cool. 
That's awesome. 

1036
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,800
And it with regard to healthy 
Rebellion that is yall's primary

1037
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,300
content Hub and is the main 
thing with him that the podcast,

1038
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:27,100
primarily mainly the podcast, 
like all I try to do like an 

1039
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:31,800
article a month, you know, kind 
of a longer form piece that I 

1040
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,000
drop in there. 
And then, if I just see news 

1041
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000
articles that pop up, like there
was something that popped up the

1042
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:43,200
other, With MCT oil seeming to 
show some benefit for pre 

1043
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,500
Alzheimer's. 
And so I'll give a little little

1044
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:47,200
analysis and kind of drop it in 
there. 

1045
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,200
And we spent all that up because
we would although I do still 

1046
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,200
have a social media presence. 
I didn't really want to feed the

1047
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,700
algorithm that that much and so 
the bulk of the maybe the a 

1048
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:01,600
level content. 
If if I have any of that, it 

1049
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,300
goes into the healthy Rebellion 
or at least it goes there first.

1050
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:06,300
And then maybe a week or a month
later. 

1051
00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:08,000
I might dribble some of that 
out. 

1052
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,900
On to social media? 
Yeah, I think podcasting as a 

1053
00:58:10,908 --> 00:58:13,400
medium is the way to go man, 
like, I don't know, the 

1054
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,400
algorithm with podcasting works 
or if there is an algorithm sure

1055
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,400
there is. 
But for whatever reason, like, 

1056
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,700
all of my social profiles, I 
mean there, I don't really poor 

1057
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:24,100
much into him because I don't, 
I'm not really excited about any

1058
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,600
of them, whereas the podcast, 
like it's a, it's an organic 

1059
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,000
conversation. 
I'm talking when you were 

1060
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,400
talking about an hour for an 
hour about like everything from 

1061
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,300
Jiu-Jitsu to home school and 
just feels like humans are 

1062
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:36,900
supposed to talk like this as 
opposed to little sound bites on

1063
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:38,100
social. 
Yeah. 

1064
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,800
I agree in the ridiculous shit. 
You need to do to get popular 

1065
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,900
and social media. 
I'm just like, shoot me, man. 

1066
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,200
I'd rather just not be known 
then to and God bless other 

1067
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,400
folks if they want to do that. 
But I'm just I'm just old and 

1068
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,800
crusty and I, you know, I own 
some T-shirts. 

1069
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,300
So I don't need to run around 
shirtless every every damn day. 

1070
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:03,500
You know, all talking about. 
Yeah. 

1071
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,700
And that's your jam, man. 
Yeah, but I'm right there with 

1072
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:09,000
you, man. 
And I got to give props to 

1073
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
element the whole team. 
There's been super awesome. 

1074
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,800
They sent me. 
They sent me so many boxes, man.

1075
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,000
Like I've got my whole crew 
drinking this stuff I cycle 

1076
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,500
between like three different 
electrolytes, but I've openly 

1077
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:23,900
said, it will stand by you 
always 100% the tastiest without

1078
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:25,700
a doubt. 
That's cool. 

1079
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:28,300
That's good to hear. 
Like we put a lot of effort into

1080
00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:32,900
making that thing good. 
And it's funny because it is 

1081
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:38,000
just salt, but like we provide a
lot of Other information and 

1082
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,300
support. 
And, you know, we started as a 

1083
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,800
premium item, like it was, it 
was just a Homebrew guide, like 

1084
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,500
how to make your own key to 
weight is what we called it 

1085
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:51,100
originally, and it was like, 
this much table salt. 

1086
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:53,400
This much no salt for the 
potassium. 

1087
00:59:53,700 --> 00:59:57,000
Samantha magnesium citrate, 
lemon, juice Stevia, shake it 

1088
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,500
up. 
And and, you know, go and when 

1089
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:03,000
we posted that online, we 
weren't using it as like a lead 

1090
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,300
magnet. 
We weren't collecting emails, 

1091
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:09,300
but in six, Once we had like a 
half million downloads of that 

1092
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:13,800
thing, and folks were tagging us
like crazy on social media. 

1093
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,800
They're like, this is awesome. 
My only complaint is when I 

1094
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,500
travel like TSA doesn't like me,
you know, having three bags of 

1095
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:24,100
white powder in life, my 
carry-on bag. 

1096
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:26,700
Like, if you guys ever made like
a stick pack or something, that 

1097
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:29,200
would be really cool. 
And that was the whole, the 

1098
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,900
whole Genesis for, for element 
coming to be like that was, that

1099
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:35,800
was not our plan to become salt 
Moguls. 

1100
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,000
But it's Gone really well, well,
you have absolutely crushed it 

1101
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,600
with regard to just marketing 
and brand awareness. 

1102
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,300
I mean, y'all are tapping into 
entities, and individuals way 

1103
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:49,400
outside of the keto low carb, 
paleo Spectrum, I fail, at least

1104
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,000
that's what seems like for me. 
Like, I'm just seeing really 

1105
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,200
properly done marketing and 
your, you know, sponsor other 

1106
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,900
podcast. 
I feel like people that are 

1107
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,200
certainly not in this nutrition 
space or aware of element and 

1108
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,300
using it on a regular basis. 
Yep, we definitely started like 

1109
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:08,600
the keto lokar. 
Scene was like, Senator the 

1110
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,900
bullseye for us, but at the end 
of the day, like there's so many

1111
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:16,200
people for whom better. 
Electrolyte management is going 

1112
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,600
to help them and there are 
people like Stan efforting that 

1113
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,900
have been talking about the need
for four more sodium, even in 

1114
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,300
like a higher carb, you know 
environment, but particularly 

1115
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:27,100
like physique oriented and stuff
like that. 

1116
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:31,800
And if you think about it, every
nerve impulse we have every 

1117
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,100
muscle contraction that occurs 
is driven by sodium potassium 

1118
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:36,700
pump. 
Soooo. 

1119
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,400
Yeah, and if those are off by a 
little bit, the other thing to 

1120
01:01:40,408 --> 01:01:43,400
consider is the most tightly 
regulated physiological. 

1121
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,100
Processes in the body, are pH, 
and electrolyte. 

1122
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:49,000
So, if those are off by just a 
little bit, you either feel like

1123
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,400
absolute garbage or you die, you
know. 

1124
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,900
And so it kind of it's 
self-serving on the one hand, 

1125
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,300
it's like the guy who has the 
electrolyte company is saying 

1126
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:02,000
electrolytes are important but 
also like the physiology is 

1127
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,000
there, you know in the kind of 
cool thing about It is, if 

1128
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,100
you're feeling off due to 
electrolyte insufficiency, 

1129
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,600
particularly sodium, if you 
drink some more, you consume 

1130
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,900
some 10 minutes later, you feel 
great. 

1131
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:20,700
Like, it's an immediate turn 
around and I think about all the

1132
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:25,800
different supplements I've taken
and you know, like, creatine I 

1133
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,900
know is good for me and I know 
it's been officials. 

1134
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:30,300
Got all these neuroprotective 
effects and everything. 

1135
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,700
I honestly can't tell whether I 
took creatine or not, like 

1136
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:36,900
saying just this thing that like
the, you know, I know, good for 

1137
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:39,100
me, it's Dirt Cheap. 
So why the hell would I not do 

1138
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:40,700
it? 
But I can't say that. 

1139
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:45,000
I noticed it that much. 
But one of the Gosh, it's a 

1140
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,200
little bit. 
Like, if you're feeling tired 

1141
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,000
and you have a cup of coffee, 
you feel less tired. 

1142
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,200
And you know, it like it's not 
it's not a subtle effect and I 

1143
01:02:53,207 --> 01:02:57,700
think that it's similar when 
people are under fueled and 

1144
01:02:57,700 --> 01:02:59,600
electrolytes. 
If they get that right there 

1145
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,700
like, bam, like I really feel 
good. 

1146
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:05,500
So it has a really tight 
feedback loop in that regard. 

1147
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:09,100
And if the product tastes pretty
good, which I think they do then

1148
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:13,200
it's it's relatively easy, sell 
them like our best strategy 

1149
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,100
right now is Sampling to people 
and having people try it. 

1150
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:23,000
And if we in general, if we can 
get a a packet into someone's 

1151
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,200
hand, we usually will sell three
somewhere down the road. 

1152
01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:29,500
Like, our main impediment right 
now is just to have enough 

1153
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:32,900
people try the product to see if
they like, it has the the 

1154
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:35,900
podcast like sponsoring podcast 
been of all the different 

1155
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:38,000
marketing tactics. 
Probably one of the most 

1156
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:42,800
beneficial for are just reaching
new new members, super good and 

1157
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,300
and in large Art. 
Because like the folks that 

1158
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,800
listen to you follow you, 
because you're an expert in in 

1159
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,800
the area that you focus in and 
you provide added value. 

1160
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,600
And so, then if someone like you
is like, oh, I like this thing, 

1161
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,400
give it a shot. 
And then we make that easy. 

1162
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,900
It's like, you know, we were 
doing this. 

1163
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:05,200
I'm not sure which thing we're 
doing right now, but we were 

1164
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,900
doing, like, this eight, stick 
pack sample thing for, like, 

1165
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:11,200
five bucks, and it's like, 
pretty and a money back 

1166
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,800
guarantee. 
And so, it's pretty low low. 

1167
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:18,100
Barrier of entry. 
And, you know, somebody doesn't 

1168
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:20,100
like it will give them their 
money back and if they do like 

1169
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:23,700
it and, you know, great. 
And so we've had a lot of 

1170
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:27,300
success with that because it 
and, you know, it's been better 

1171
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:30,300
working with coaches than, like,
athletes. 

1172
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:33,300
Like its kind of one thing if 
you got somebody who's a stud 

1173
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:36,100
Croft CrossFit athlete and 
they're really you know, they're

1174
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:38,200
good looking and they're 
inspiring and everything. 

1175
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:43,300
But That person's 
recommendations don't they could

1176
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:48,600
be they could be a million plus,
you know, like Instagram person 

1177
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,900
but their their influence 
towards like, selling a product 

1178
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:59,100
like element is smaller than a 
well-respected coach that has a 

1179
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:01,900
10,000 person Instagram 
following. 

1180
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:04,200
Yeah. 
Because that coach is people are

1181
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,900
following the coach maybe, 
they're good-looking. 

1182
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:07,900
Maybe they're a stud athlete. 
Also, but they're mainly being 

1183
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:10,100
followed because they can help 
people get results. 

1184
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,600
Schultz. 
And so there's like a trust and 

1185
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,700
a by in there that is is 
disproportionate to to, like 

1186
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:19,800
just just numbers. 
I remembered seeing something 

1187
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,700
that was really interesting, 
there was super good-looking gal

1188
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,500
on Instagram. 
She had like 2.8 million 

1189
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:30,800
followers and she but it was 
just, she was good-looking, that

1190
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,000
was it and that's fine. 
You know what you post, pictures

1191
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,200
of herself and everything in 
that. 

1192
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,700
That's fine. 
But she got tied in with this 

1193
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:41,500
clothing company. 
And she Trying to sell like this

1194
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:45,600
kind of it's basically like a 
basic white T-shirt but it was a

1195
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,300
cool t-shirt like good, good gal
t-shirt. 

1196
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:49,900
You know makes them look good 
and everything. 

1197
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:54,700
She couldn't sell 30 of them and
and she was kind of bemoaning 

1198
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:56,100
this. 
You know she's like I've got two

1199
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:58,100
point, eight million people and 
blah blah blah. 

1200
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:03,100
And and so there's a there's a 
really interesting thing that 

1201
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:06,500
occurs where and this is where 
it's kind of cautionary tale for

1202
01:06:06,500 --> 01:06:09,100
folks that are out in this 
space. 

1203
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,000
My following Is not huge. 
I've got a hundred thousand 

1204
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,400
people on on Instagram, similar 
number on on Twitter which is 

1205
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,800
great. 
It, you know, it's a, it's 

1206
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,700
reasonably sizable. 
But you see all these people 

1207
01:06:19,700 --> 01:06:22,000
with, like, millions of 
followers and everything, but 

1208
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,300
that engagement, like I have 
really good engagement because I

1209
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:30,700
legitimately try to help the 
people that take the, the most 

1210
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:33,600
important thing that they have, 
which is time and allocated some

1211
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,000
of that time to, like, listening
to my ramblings or, you know, 

1212
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,100
take a taking in some of the 
stuff that I'm doing so. 

1213
01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:43,000
I don't go to that. 
Well, very often pestering 

1214
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,500
people to buy shit from me. 
And so when I do make a 

1215
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:49,500
recommendation people like, okay
like this is credible and I'm 

1216
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:51,400
going to take it, take it 
seriously. 

1217
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,100
So it's maybe something for 
folks to Noodle on. 

1218
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:59,500
Like if you if you do a flight 
to quality instead of doing the 

1219
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:03,100
things that the algorithm likes,
which will get you more 

1220
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:06,300
followers, but it won't 
necessarily translate into more 

1221
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:09,900
more revenue or legitimate 
engagement. 

1222
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:14,300
It's a, it's a longer road and 
it doesn't feel as like dopamine

1223
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:17,500
titillating because you're not 
getting as much interaction, but

1224
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,600
it works far better if you're 
you're actually trying to help 

1225
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,200
people and if you're 
legitimately trying to build a 

1226
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,900
business that you want to be 
here 30 years from now and and 

1227
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:28,600
not just some flash in the pan 
thing. 

1228
01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:31,800
Yeah, 100% man, like I'm all 
about playing the long game as 

1229
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,200
it pertains to business for 
sure. 

1230
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,100
But then also just you know 
what, you put out into the 

1231
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:37,700
ether. 
I mean feel like so many people 

1232
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:41,500
are taking, you know, these 
shortcut Get rich quick schemes,

1233
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:43,800
the trying to do these flash in 
the pan think as it relates to 

1234
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,600
diet and training. 
And I've always lived by the 

1235
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,800
code of ethics of, like, do 
something that you can sustain 

1236
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,000
every single day of your life 
and don't waver from that. 

1237
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,900
And if you do that over enough 
time like you will find success 

1238
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:58,800
and that just means you got to 
put the blinders on and put your

1239
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,100
head down and get to work. 
But shoot, if you love The 

1240
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:03,200
Grind, if you love The Journey, 
then that's not really an issue 

1241
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,500
in the first place. 
And it's funny. 

1242
01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:10,100
Something I've noticed is the 
folks are always trying to Lake 

1243
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,200
or read o 80/20 everything and 
it certainly should it shouldn't

1244
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,899
work dumb like you want to work 
smart, right? 

1245
01:08:16,899 --> 01:08:21,300
But if, if one just commits to 
doing really outstanding work, 

1246
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:24,700
you're never depressed. 
Yeah, you're never lethargic 

1247
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:27,500
you're never wanting for some 
meaning in your life because 

1248
01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:30,700
you've got the meaning is doing 
a good job. 

1249
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:36,600
You know, when there's this like
weird There's a really 

1250
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,700
remarkable like dopamine 
feedback around having a plan 

1251
01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:44,700
and actioning on it and, and 
seeing that stuff through and 

1252
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:47,399
just showing up every day and 
just a little incremental 

1253
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:50,000
progress. 
And even if the, if everything 

1254
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,500
you're working on ghost shit, 
you know, like, when we had the 

1255
01:08:53,899 --> 01:08:56,100
algorithm update, I was like, 
man, what do I do? 

1256
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:58,399
And there was a time there were 
like, I don't know, maybe this 

1257
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,600
is where we close up shop and 
we're not on the interwebs 

1258
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,000
anymore. 
But we had had a podcast for 

1259
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,800
years and we still had good. 
Engagement there and I was like 

1260
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,500
that's what we're going to do. 
We're just going to figure out a

1261
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:12,100
way to circumvent, this whole 
algorithm driven you know 

1262
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:15,500
Nightmare and it's been really 
good for us at the end of the 

1263
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:21,300
day Google trying to suppress. 
What we talked about has ended 

1264
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:27,100
up getting my work in front of 
10x. 100x more people than if we

1265
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:29,399
had continued on the path that 
we had been on. 

1266
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,500
Yeah. 
And they're real people. 

1267
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,500
And that that's a huge 
differentiating Factor there. 

1268
01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:36,700
Yeah, it's much better to have. 
You know, a tenth of the 

1269
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:40,200
following, but those be 
comprised of quality people that

1270
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,200
are buying into the message that
a respectable individuals. 

1271
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,399
Like, I'd rather I don't even 
care what my audience size is. 

1272
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,200
I am blown away by the Loyalty 
of the people that follow me. 

1273
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:51,399
Yep. 
And then I'll take that over the

1274
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:52,800
numbers. 
Any damn day of the week. 

1275
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:54,800
Yep. 
Absolutely. 

1276
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,800
So we're speaking the same 
language there. 

1277
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:58,900
Well hey man, we've been talking
for over an hour. 

1278
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:02,300
What do you got in a python? 
That's got you excited and we're

1279
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:06,500
just kind of wrap up with that 
man. you know, I still just 

1280
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,000
beating this regenerative Act 
drum, you know, like Diana 

1281
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,900
Rogers and I did that that book 
and things like on the foul 

1282
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:19,800
great book by the way and think 
yeah it and How do I want to 

1283
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:24,500
couch this Lake? 
If we poke around the interwebs,

1284
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:27,300
if we poke around media and 
social media, and I don't want 

1285
01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:30,100
to like overly politicized this 
but, you know, like if covid 

1286
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:34,600
comes up or climate change comes
up, people present stuff like 

1287
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,100
they've got it. 
All figured out and only like 

1288
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,700
Diane. 
And I have an orientation 

1289
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:43,500
around. 
All this perspective into 

1290
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:46,800
orientation is essentially that 
if you're really concerned about

1291
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,200
claiming climate change grazing,
animals are not the place to be 

1292
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,400
concerned and, you know, And if 
it really is a big deal than 

1293
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,000
maybe you should focus on the 
stuff that actually matters and 

1294
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,800
grazing, animals might actually 
be a solution to different 

1295
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,300
elements of climate change and 
economic infrastructure and food

1296
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:06,900
sovereignty and a bunch of other
stuff. 

1297
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:13,200
But that's that's really been 
the passion. 

1298
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:18,200
And my wife has been getting 
into like in FTS and some of the

1299
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,100
crypto space but not in this 
late, get-rich-quick scheme. 

1300
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:28,800
But in the perspective, that 
This gets pretty far afield, but

1301
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,600
it's all throw it out here. 
I try, not to throw things out, 

1302
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,300
it it, you know, really complex 
things in like, simple sound 

1303
01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:39,000
bites because they it just chaps
my ass but, you know, kind of 

1304
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,600
short on time but I'll throw it 
out there. 

1305
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,200
But like our economic system is 
broken and it's going to break 

1306
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,200
and it's going to implode and 
it's going to cause a lot of 

1307
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:51,400
damage and heartache for people 
and some things like Bitcoin and

1308
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:56,000
etherium and stuff like that. 
I think offers some some hedges.

1309
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:01,300
Against that and whether you 
agree with things but like what 

1310
01:12:01,300 --> 01:12:06,700
happened to Kanye and some other
people were like they were deep 

1311
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:09,200
banked. 
Basically, I'm horrified by 

1312
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,600
that. 
Like I just can't eat it. 

1313
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,900
I had my website basically 
removed from the Internet or the

1314
01:12:15,900 --> 01:12:18,400
ability to find it. 
So, I've experienced some of 

1315
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:24,400
this and what I guess I am of 
that flavor of libertarian that 

1316
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,600
even if I had somebody a really 
Didn't agree with like some 

1317
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,200
over-the-top vegan or, you know,
something like that. 

1318
01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:34,600
I would be horrified if the 
government be a media came in 

1319
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,000
and like silence that person 
remove them from the internet 

1320
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,600
and destroyed their ability to 
make a living and D Bank them 

1321
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,500
such that they were you know, 
they're crushed. 

1322
01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:48,600
And so a lot of the work that 
we've been doing in addition to 

1323
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:53,500
like this decentralized food 
space is this web 3 

1324
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,700
decentralisation of fine. 
Nance the right to transact, the

1325
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:02,400
right to self sovereignty and to
be able to make decisions for 

1326
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,800
ourselves for our local 
communities and whatnot. 

1327
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,500
And so that's the stuff I've 
been really, really passionate 

1328
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:12,800
about. 
And I think it's it's in the 

1329
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,800
early days but the more people 
that we can get just thinking 

1330
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,600
about that. 
I think the better it's going to

1331
01:13:17,608 --> 01:13:20,600
be for all of us. 
No, I think all of this just 

1332
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,800
goes back to being more 
self-sufficient. 

1333
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,100
Less dependent upon anybody. 
Anything. 

1334
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,800
In the entity government 
included. 

1335
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:32,000
I mean, nobody is out to save. 
I no one's coming to save you 

1336
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:34,600
like I think that's just like 
the in the the bottom line. 

1337
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,800
There you have any land out 
there in Montana we do we have a

1338
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,800
little bit and we're looking for
a spot to actually have cows and

1339
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,600
sheep and and do the more the 
homestead deal. 

1340
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:49,300
Yeah we're doing the same thing 
here man. 

1341
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:50,900
I've been clean land. 
We're trying to get some 

1342
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,300
chickens and pigs, maybe a cow 
or two and just like like I 

1343
01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:57,600
don't I mean that obviously, 
She's not going to be what 

1344
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,700
provides our livelihood, the 
point where I can still support 

1345
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,900
everything, but I would like the
idea of being able to lean on 

1346
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:07,600
that heavily enough so that I'm 
not dependent overly dependent 

1347
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,000
upon anything. 
And I think just simply leaning 

1348
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,400
into your local community 
leaning into your fellow human 

1349
01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:17,800
on a local basis. 
And adding more value in that 

1350
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,600
regard, like everything's moved.
So online. 

1351
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,600
Which I mean, if you look at 
what you and I have built as 

1352
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,500
from a brain standpoint. 
What what influence we've been 

1353
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:27,500
able to have Of nutritionally 
speaking. 

1354
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:30,900
We've been able to scale that 
much more so than we ever could 

1355
01:14:30,900 --> 01:14:34,000
locally as a result of the 
internet and social media, but I

1356
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,500
don't ever want that to come at 
the expense of being able to 

1357
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,000
double down on our local 
community or what be able to, 

1358
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:42,400
you know, exactly the touch 
points we can have within our 

1359
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,200
own Inner Circle. 
So I think returning to that is,

1360
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,600
is key. 
Yeah, I was talking to Nikki and

1361
01:14:48,608 --> 01:14:51,600
I'm like, you know what, there 
might come a day where like they

1362
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,800
issue, phone books again, like 
local, might actually matter it 

1363
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,300
again, at some point, you know. 
Yeah, I'd be out fully agree all

1364
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:03,600
for it Rob. 
You are a brilliant individual. 

1365
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,000
I always enjoy chatting with 
you. 

1366
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:06,900
What am I gonna see you going? 
Are you going to any conferences

1367
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,300
is coming here? 
I am not planning on it. 

1368
01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:14,900
Like the the funny thing is 
because our Jiu-Jitsu 16 is 

1369
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:18,300
really good here. 
The the folks that I'm really 

1370
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:21,600
interested in tend to come to 
Montana, so I don't even really 

1371
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,300
have to travel that much 
anymore. 

1372
01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:28,700
Like, I, I traveled so much for 
so long and then when covid shut

1373
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:31,900
that all down, I was going like,
oh traveling, kind of sucks. 

1374
01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:34,600
Like I like being at the 
conferences but the coming and 

1375
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,900
going kind of blows. 
So I don't know might be this 

1376
01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:39,400
year. 
Might be next year that I get 

1377
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,100
back out and likes hitting like 
some metabolic Health Summit and

1378
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,500
some things like that. 
We'll see but I really enjoy 

1379
01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:48,300
being home now. 
No, I totally respect that man. 

1380
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,200
I've got several competitions in
Washington state. 

1381
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,800
So I'm a meander through Montana
to get some of the scenic route 

1382
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,900
in which case. 
I'll let you throw me on the mat

1383
01:15:56,900 --> 01:15:58,900
a few times. 
That'd be great. 

1384
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:01,500
We'll put you up and I'll feed 
and water you while you're here.

1385
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:03,400
Awesome man. 
Well, where can people go to 

1386
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,300
find out more about you, 
brother, Rob wolf.com, and then 

1387
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:10,600
drink element.com or kind of 
where all of the material that 

1388
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,200
I'm producing ends up popping up
perfectly. 

1389
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,600
I will link it to that, make it 
easy for people to find both you

1390
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,400
and elements and the keep doing 
what you doing. 

1391
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,800
May keep fighting the good 
fight, keep putting out the 

1392
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,500
content and just keep killing a 
brother your to man, it look 

1393
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:24,000
forward to seeing you in real 
life. 

1394
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,400
Yes indeed take him you too.