1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Hello, ladies and gents Robert Sykes Quito Savage.com. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,500 Today I've got special guest dr. Patrick Vickers on the line and 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:10,100 I'm not even gonna lie, yo, I pretty much disagree with 4 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:14,300 everything he says, and we talked after the recording and 5 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:16,100 we both recognize that we completely disagree with 6 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:18,600 everything we say with everything each other says. 7 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:21,900 And truth be told, we didn't have enough time to get into 8 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:24,500 like an actual debate. Like we were an hour and pretty 9 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:29,200 much just letting me me letting him put his story out there. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Put his Protocol out there, put his methodology out there and we 11 00:00:32,808 --> 00:00:38,300 did some background on Gerson. So basically quick recap Gerson 12 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:44,300 was a prominent scientist in 1920s. 30s 40s, came up with a 13 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:47,900 modality for pretty much curing cancer. 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,400 And that method has garnered a lot of pushback by Western 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,100 medicine and dr. Patrick Vickers has refined and 16 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:03,600 Polished his methodology and It on to this day and we just 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,300 wanted to dive into the backstory of the Gerson 18 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:08,700 protocol, want to dive into Gerson himself. 19 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:12,500 I wanted to figure out why he was, you know, shunned so to 20 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,800 speak. And I wanted to figure out why 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,800 they've continued that method, what they found in doing. 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,200 So and just learn a little bit more about their methodology. 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,500 But as you will likely glean from this conversation, we are 24 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,400 definitely on two different paths when it comes to 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,200 nutrition. I am More, you know, Carnivora 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,800 ketogenic, you know, that standpoint, he is certainly more 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,900 plant-based and going that direction. 28 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:42,900 So, but at the end of the day, I think, I still want to go ahead 29 00:01:42,908 --> 00:01:46,700 and publish this podcast because it was a civil conversation and 30 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:50,200 I don't ever want my podcast to become an echo chamber in which 31 00:01:50,208 --> 00:01:54,400 I only record with people, whom I agree with and whom I only 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,500 record with, you know, people that are preaching the same 33 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:01,600 method, so to speak. So this is Definitely not that. 34 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 So hopefully, you all can appreciate that and can 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,900 appreciate the Nuance in the conversation. 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,300 And appreciate that. Two people who disagree with 37 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:12,900 each other can have a civil conversation. 38 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:16,900 So, that said, without further Ado, a sit back, relax and do a 39 00:02:16,908 --> 00:02:19,500 podcast with dr. Patrick Vickers, 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,700 We are live, dr. Patrick Vickers. 41 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:33,500 How are you, sir. Very good. 42 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:35,900 Thanks for having me today. I am excited to be chatting with 43 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:40,700 you, so I actually just read a book too long ago, titled 44 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:43,600 ravenous, have you ever are you familiar with that book? 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,800 No, I'm sorry. I'm not it's a it's by Sam apple 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,700 and he was basically diving into biography of doctor Warburg and 47 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:59,000 looking at cancer as a metabolic disease State, basically and 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,300 starving out that via you know, the deprivation of oxygen. 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,200 So very, very interesting book and then I got pitched your 50 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,800 podcast or having you on the podcast and kind of diving into 51 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,900 gerson's theory about starving cancer out from a metabolic 52 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:16,700 standpoint. Well, so I'm excited to dive in 53 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:18,200 and kind of pull the curtain back on that. 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,900 Yeah. Absolutely. 55 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:26,500 You know it's interesting, you mention Warburg because Warburg 56 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:30,000 one is Nobel work from the University of Freiburg back in 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,100 1931. Gerson graduated from the 58 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:36,100 University of Freiburg and was practicing just outside of 59 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:39,900 Freiburg where he had a clinic for 20 years prior to that 60 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:43,200 reverse and advanced disease with his Gerson Therapy, and 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,100 they all knew each other Warburg new Gerson, Gerson new Warburg. 62 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:51,100 And while Warburg was doing his Nobel work, you know, No on this 63 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:56,300 issue, Gerson had a clinic already doing that for you know 64 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:59,900 twenty years reversing Advanced disease and there seems to be 65 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:02,800 some confusion with what Warburg said. 66 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,800 You know, in the thesis he's leading up to his Nobel, you 67 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,400 know, Lori at work. If you read between the lines on 68 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,800 what Warburg said about properly oxygenating tissue, he went on 69 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,399 to describe that the body's primary ability to reverse 70 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:22,700 advanced. These cancer and oxygenating 71 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:28,500 cells properly lied in an alkaline diet and so, you know, 72 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,200 he where did he get that from? You can almost rest assured, he 73 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,900 got that from the 20 years of gerson's, work leading up to 74 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:42,000 warburg's Nobel work so Gerson, I'd love to come to a, you know, 75 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,800 pull the curtain back on the history of Gerson because, you 76 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,800 know, if you do a Wikipedia search on Gerson, you don't get 77 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,900 a lot of positive inside. Like he's kind of been shunned 78 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:55,800 by mainstream Western medicine. Why do you think that is? 79 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:58,200 That's a good question. And lots of things are getting 80 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,500 shunned right now, but I'm all on board. 81 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:04,300 Well, can a cancer as a metabolic disease state, for 82 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:09,800 sure, you know, up until 1946 Gerson was pretty much unknown. 83 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:13,700 And then the pepper Neely anti-cancer Bill had come to the 84 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:15,400 floor of the United States Senate. 85 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,400 It was designed to appropriate a hundred million dollars in 86 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,000 funding to anyone who could show. 87 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,700 Mess in the realm of cancer research. 88 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:27,900 And someone had heard in within Senate chambers, you know, doors 89 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:31,800 that there was a guy in Manhattan on Park Avenue that 90 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,000 was reversing virtually every single disease including cancer. 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,700 So they invited him, July 1st, through the 3rd, 1946 to come 92 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:42,100 testify before the United States Senate. 93 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:46,400 So shocked was everybody in Senate chambers in Senate, 94 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,500 chambers, during that testimony, that's Senator Claude pepper 95 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:53,200 himself. Elf who sponsored the bill said, 96 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,300 dr. Gerson has dedicated his life to 97 00:05:55,300 --> 00:06:00,100 the Mastery of this scoured of cancer, and all should honor his 98 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:03,500 great work. And so he was whisked away to 99 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:05,800 give an interview to the international press, which would 100 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,000 be standard for, you know, anything of that nature then and 101 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,400 today. So he was whisked away to the 102 00:06:11,407 --> 00:06:15,100 international Press Room, where he sat in a room alone for an 103 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:18,200 hour and a half, and the international press was never 104 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,700 allowed to interview him. Were whisked away to another 105 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:25,900 room and an impromptu party was thrown on their behalf. 106 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Why? Because when Gerson testified in 107 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,100 1946 he wasn't only testifying about his therapy and how he was 108 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:38,700 reversing virtually every single degenerative disease, most 109 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:42,300 notably cancer which is what the bill was sponsored for. 110 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:47,700 He was talking about all the things that were causing the the 111 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:52,800 parabolic rise in. Aziz most notably cancer even 112 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,600 back in 1946. So what was he talking about? 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,700 He was talking about the energy industry, he was talking about 114 00:06:59,700 --> 00:07:04,000 the agricultural industry, the medical industry, all of these 115 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,800 things, he was exposing and all of those things are, what are 116 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,400 eating the politicians pockets for their campaign funds every 117 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,100 four years? And so a huge red flag went up 118 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:20,300 throughout Washington and every industry that he noted Was 119 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:22,600 causing the rapid rise in disease. 120 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:27,700 So from that day, Gerson became a Marked Man. 121 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,500 He was one of the most published doctors in the world, leading up 122 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:36,900 to that point. And after that, between 1946 and 123 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:41,900 his death in 1959, he was only able to publish like three or 124 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:46,000 four things in rinky-dink. Medical journals around the 125 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,900 world where he was publishing and major medical journals. 126 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:52,500 Leading up to that. That he remains one of the most 127 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:55,300 sensor doctors in the history of medicine. 128 00:07:55,300 --> 00:08:00,400 In fact, there's a book written in 1956 which Chronicles 129 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,700 gerson's word-for-word testimony before the United States Senate. 130 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,500 It's called the American Experience of Max Gerson 131 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:12,200 censured for curing cancer. It's written by a former New 132 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,000 York Times journalist who was cleared by his Editor to expose 133 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,800 Gerson as a fraud to write a story. 134 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:25,000 Exposing Gerson is a fraud and when he started researching his 135 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,700 story after three weeks, he completely changed the the 136 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:33,700 subject, like matter and ended up writing this book censored 137 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:36,900 for curing cancer. So the reason why when you 138 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:41,400 Google Dr, Gerson and you get all these things, you know, 139 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:45,300 ostracizing him saying his therapies, never cured a case of 140 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:48,000 cancer. It's absolute nonsense. 141 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,100 It's written by the pharmaceutical in the L 142 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:53,700 industry, who he would have put out of business as you. 143 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:59,300 And I know it today, he was a major threat to a pharmaceutical 144 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:03,100 and medical industry that was on the rise back then, but the 145 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:06,900 reality is eight movies have Chronicle dr. 146 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:12,100 Gerson's work since and no other therapy can remotely boast. 147 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:16,100 But one, why? Because no, other therapy. 148 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Historically, can do what the Gerson Therapy can do in. 149 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,400 It's Ability to reverse Advanced terminal disease. 150 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,200 And so that's why you hear all these bad things about the 151 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Gerson Therapy, not because it's not effective and it's not based 152 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 in science. The reality, is it? 153 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Because it would destroy and expose a bloated pharmaceutical, 154 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:42,800 agricultural energy industries that are permeating, you know, 155 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 the cause of disease today around the world. 156 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:49,700 And so that's why Gerson today is not a household name when he 157 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Absolutely should have been and when he was before he went 158 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,200 public with his before, he was brought to the Senate and made 159 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,400 made all these claims. He was documenting all this in 160 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,200 his in his lab in his clinic. So there's there's recorded, you 161 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,400 know, history of him, seeing positive outcomes with his 162 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:16,400 patients, right? Before 1946, he was constantly 163 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:22,100 approaching the American Medical Association and trying to share 164 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:25,300 his work over and over and over again. 165 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,500 Absolutely, that's why he's one of the most published doctors in 166 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:31,000 the world. Leading up to 1946. 167 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:33,400 I have a list of all his published. 168 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,300 Works on our website, Gerson, Clinic.com. 169 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,300 They're all in German most of them, unfortunately, because 170 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,700 that's where he was practicing. Most of the, Time up until about 171 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:45,700 nineteen, thirty-six. I think, when he moved to the 172 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:50,300 United States, but he was one of the most published doctors in 173 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:54,800 the world, publishing his work, so absolutely. 174 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,900 He approached the AMA, the New York State Medical Society. 175 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,200 All is German colleagues as well. 176 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:06,800 They didn't want to hear it, but more in the United States in 177 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,500 Germany, you know, all those people Einstein War. 178 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,400 Berg they all knew each other, Rudolf Steiner Charlotte Gerson 179 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,500 dr. Gerson's daughter, was 180 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,800 personally educated by Rudolf Steiner. 181 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:22,900 You know, so all those guys, they were actually collaborating 182 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:27,600 with each other but in the United States He faced a 183 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,400 completely different monster in the medical in the 184 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,500 pharmaceutical industry and ultimately the US Government 185 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:39,600 after 1946 in his testimony, he was a Marked Man and I'm 186 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,200 assuming he moved to his States. Like he's probably Making Waves 187 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,700 in Germany, but I'm assuming he moves. 188 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:48,200 Simply the result of the war going on in Nazi Germany, at 189 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,000 that time, right? That is exactly right. 190 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,500 He was a German Jew. He lost his entire family in the 191 00:11:55,500 --> 00:12:00,000 Holocaust, he himself nearly died in the Holocaust and 192 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:03,400 narrowly escaped being, you know, being taken by the SS 193 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Army, and then he fled to France. 194 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:09,900 When Hitler invaded France, he immediately hopped on the boat 195 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:14,100 with his family to Manhattan, and they set up practice on Park 196 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,300 Avenue in Manhattan. Literally, I kid you not meters 197 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,500 from Memorial Sloan-Kettering, the one of the world's largest 198 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:28,400 cancer research hospitals. In fact, CJ Sloan one of the 199 00:12:28,408 --> 00:12:31,500 founders of Memorial Sloan-Kettering called Gerson a 200 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:35,900 notable Quack, a notable quack. So in other words, a guy who is 201 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:37,700 curing disease, but he was a quack. 202 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,500 So what let's dive into actual protocols. 203 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:43,700 Like, if you take away all the politics from his his 204 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:48,700 methodology, and what it could do from an industry standpoint 205 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:50,200 of what it could not do from an energy standpoint. 206 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:53,100 What was the actual protocol in of itself? 207 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:59,500 Yeah, so gerson's therapy, consisted of 20 pounds of 208 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:03,600 organic, fruits and vegetables every single day mostly in the 209 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,300 form of juices. And then he had to detoxify the 210 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:09,900 body. He found very early on that if 211 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,800 he gave that kind of nutrition how quickly it went towards 212 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,800 detoxifying and breaking down tumor tissue and rebuilding new 213 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,300 tissue. He had to detoxify the body and 214 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:24,400 so he had to come up with something. 215 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,600 Because in the beginning, he didn't have great success until 216 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,000 he found the mechanism, by which he could detoxify. 217 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,600 And he came up with the coffee enema, he made the coffee enema, 218 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,800 famous and there is nothing more potent in the ability to 219 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,600 detoxify the human organism than the coffee enema. 220 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:51,100 It is absolutely a powerful detoxification regime when you 221 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:53,700 do it in conjunction with the Gerson Therapy. 222 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:57,500 So those Of the two main aspects of gerson's therapy. 223 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:01,700 There's also a very specific supplement protocol, that Gerson 224 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:05,800 derived, and it's all based on the cellular, the production of 225 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,100 cellular energy by the mitochondria IE metabolism. 226 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:13,500 If you read and dr. Gerson's, Epic book that he 227 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:18,100 published a year before his death, one word sticks out over 228 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:22,400 and over again that he talks about and that word is 229 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,800 metabolism. He mentions it over and over 230 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,500 again as the secret to health and certainly the secret to 231 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,200 reversing disease. That these diseases, as you 232 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,000 mentioned, our metabolic diseases and that you must 233 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,000 restore proper metabolism to the cell. 234 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:47,800 If you're going to reverse these diseases and Metabolism defined 235 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:53,500 is the breakdown of food into energy and that consists of 236 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:57,200 three components. And his therapy, addresses. 237 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Those three components of metabolism specifically. 238 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,200 So 20 pounds is 20 pounds that. Here's your rent, 20 pounds of 239 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,800 fruits and vegetables. That's a lot of, that's a lot of 240 00:15:07,808 --> 00:15:12,400 red fruits vegetables. Yeah, and that's organic right 241 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,000 it and if it's not organic, the patients will not survive. 242 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:21,100 Do the pesticides of one. It has to be organic. 243 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:24,200 Well exactly. That's one reason, right? 244 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,900 That's probably the most obvious reason is that these the 245 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:29,500 conventional produce is loaded with you. 246 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,700 No pesticides, herbicides fungicides. 247 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,800 But the other reason, why is, because these, these 248 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,100 conventional, you know, fruits and vegetables are grown with 249 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:43,200 what they're growing with three things, the standard fertilizers 250 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,900 that you know your farmers are using today is NPK nitrogen. 251 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,900 Phosphorus potassium. That's the name of the 252 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:56,500 fertilizer NPK and so the fruits and vegetables, only contain 253 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,500 essentially those elements, whereas pure organic produce, 254 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,400 you know, consists of they say, anywhere from 60 to 100 vitamins 255 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,200 minerals, cofactors and you know, natural bacteria as well, 256 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,100 which are killed, you know, in the pesticide driven 257 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:18,300 conventional produce, but the other thing that's not Open 258 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:21,500 about about conventional produce is that before? 259 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:25,400 They send to Market, they irradiated, why do they 260 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,600 irradiated? They irradiated to cut off the 261 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,400 enzyme activity in that fruit, or that vegetable that enzyme 262 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 activity is so, absolutely vital. 263 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:39,700 Not just to maintaining human health, but certainly cure a 264 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:45,300 sick and dying body and so conventional produce can't heal 265 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:49,000 a human body and it really can't even keep A healthy person, 266 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,800 optimally healthy because all of those components are at stake 267 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,700 when you're dealing with conventional produce. 268 00:16:55,700 --> 00:17:00,300 So if we don't feed our patients organic produce, their chances 269 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:03,400 of survival or between slim and none. 270 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Gotcha, gotcha. And you've pretty much taken 271 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,800 that you've learned from his family directly and you've kind 272 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,599 of modified his protocol slightly and have continued on 273 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,900 that approach, correct? Yeah, that's right. 274 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:23,900 So we do what we've coined, the advanced Gerson Therapy protocol 275 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:26,400 so we've taken dr. Gerson's basic teenage that he 276 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,100 left with us in 1959 and we've added to it based on things that 277 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:34,900 have come out in the scientific literature proving benefit to a 278 00:17:34,908 --> 00:17:37,900 cancer patient. There's nothing we do at our 279 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:42,900 Clinic that is not supported by the scientific literature and so 280 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,800 we've just taken dr. Gerson's therapy as he would 281 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,100 have anyone. New dr. 282 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:51,600 Gerson he was the consummate scientist. 283 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:54,900 He was constantly trying to perfect his therapy based on 284 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:57,800 what was coming out in the scientific literature of his 285 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,400 time. Just to give you an example up 286 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,400 until 1952 which was like 45 years into his therapy. 287 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,200 At that point, he had a specific juicing protocol that he changed 288 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,400 very little then in 1952 he completely revamped the juicing 289 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,000 protocol based on what was coming out in the sign. 290 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,200 Terrific literature regarding fruits, vegetables and cancer. 291 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,400 So just within seven years of his death, he completely 292 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,800 revamped his therapy. So if he were alive today, 293 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,900 looking at scientific literature that has come out since his 294 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:33,300 death, you can rest assured, is his therapy would probably look 295 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:37,200 a lot more like, ours than it did his back in 1959. 296 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,400 So that's we just tried to carry on dr. 297 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,700 Gerson's, working his legacy. And what? 298 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,100 We feel the direction that he probably would have taken it. 299 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:48,200 Had he still been alive. I'm assuming you're probably get 300 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,600 a lot of pushback using his name still because there is so much 301 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,400 negativity associate with his name, right? 302 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,800 The reality is, there's not so much negativity. 303 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,000 I mean eight movies of chronicled his work because of 304 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,900 his ability to reverse Advanced disease, right? 305 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:08,900 You know so when you go on the internet? 306 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:12,100 Yeah well that's for you going to see the - you know things 307 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,700 about dr. Gerson why? 308 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,600 Because who has the money to search engine optimized for 309 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,300 Google? The things they want you to know 310 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:20,900 about dr. Gerson or what? 311 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:23,800 They think. They want you to know about dr. 312 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,900 Gerson the far. Masu tackle, the medical 313 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:29,000 industry in the US government People Like Us don't have the 314 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,800 kind of money to compete with that kind of money for them to 315 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,000 be able to search engine optimize a Gerson Therapy 316 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,500 search. You know you do a Gerson Therapy 317 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:41,600 search in your top entries, are the medical industry, writing 318 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,500 the things that they want you to know or you to believe about the 319 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:49,600 Gerson Therapy, right? And so, you know, there's a lot 320 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,000 of people out there now because of dr. 321 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,300 Gerson's work, and the eight movies chronicling is Is work 322 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,600 that I'd say the people who believe in it and and don't 323 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,800 believe in it or have had - her negative things about it. 324 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:05,000 It's probably pretty balanced at this point 50/50. 325 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,300 Gotcha. Gotcha. 326 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:09,300 So, now with the with the science that's come out since 327 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:12,600 his protocol came out and into existence, how has that shaped 328 00:20:12,700 --> 00:20:15,100 yellows, current methodology. That what is? 329 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,200 Let's just start from the top, like, what is an ideal patient 330 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400 candidate look like going into y'all's Clinic? 331 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:25,400 Yeah, great. Yeah, let's so, let's just talk 332 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,700 about a day at the clinic, right? 333 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:29,300 I mean, essentially the day starts in the morning, the 334 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:32,500 coffee enema around, 6:30 in the morning, then you have 335 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:36,400 breakfast, which consists of oatmeal, some stewed dried 336 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,100 fruits into that. And an orange juice. 337 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:42,200 Same thing, every day they get a, they get 2 tablespoons of 338 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,500 flax oil. Every day at their meals total 339 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,200 and that's specifically to boost up cellular metabolism. 340 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,900 We can go deeper into that at some point if you want, but And 341 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:56,100 then after breakfast, they start getting a juice every hour on 342 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,400 the hour until 8 p.m. So they're getting 13, fresh 343 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,600 pressed juices every day now scattered in between, they're 344 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,000 getting enemas, every three hours, so they're getting five 345 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,800 coffee enemas per day and then they're getting individual 346 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,900 therapies that are designed to boost the mitochondrial 347 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:18,200 production of ATP, IE energy through the increased 348 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,800 oxygenation of tissues. Okay. 349 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,100 And so they're getting high. For Barak oxygen. 350 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:26,300 They're getting ultraviolet, bloody irradiation with ozone, 351 00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:30,400 which was a major therapy back before the Advent of 352 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,900 antibiotics. If you had a deadly infection, 353 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:37,500 if you had a deadly infection. You know, back before the Advent 354 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:40,800 of antibiotics, you were given ultraviolet bloody irradiation 355 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,500 with ozone. And so we give ultraviolet, 356 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:47,500 bloody irradiation with ozone. It's a major immune modulator of 357 00:21:47,508 --> 00:21:51,500 the human body and then we give pulsed electromagnetic frequency 358 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:54,300 treatment, Comment in the form of something called the Beamer 359 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,600 Matt. Now, the Beamer Matt they say, 360 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,000 has the ability to oxygenate tissues 30% greater than a 361 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,600 chamber and if you see the video in the science supporting the 362 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Beamer technology, it's really fascinating how that works and 363 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,100 you could understand why it would oxygenate, you know, 30% 364 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:16,300 greater than a chamber and then one of the other things that we 365 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:20,600 do, but the science coming out now on light therapy. 366 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,900 So a book was written. Called the medicine of light. 367 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,300 It was written by Nathaniel Meade and what they're finding 368 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:31,200 now is that, when you bombard, the body with chlorophyll, which 369 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,600 we do, obviously, in the green juices, the patient receives and 370 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,700 the raw living spirulina that we add now to the juices, which are 371 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:44,200 loaded with chlorophyll. So when you load the body with 372 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,800 chlorophyll and then you hit the body, specifically with 373 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:55,100 near-infrared light not far. Not mid just near it. 374 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:58,600 Causes immediate apoptosis of cancer cells. 375 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:00,800 That's the science coming out now. 376 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,700 So we use those Therapies in conjunction with what were, you 377 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:10,300 know, but we've already, you know, coined the Gerson Therapy. 378 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:13,700 And then we've added some other things, like some specific 379 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:18,500 supplements high-dose proteolytic enzymes which the 380 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,800 science supports their ability to break down cancer cells. 381 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,600 In tumors. Why what's the science? 382 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,700 Well, your cancer cells in tumors. 383 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:29,300 They have the ability to hide from the immune system because 384 00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:34,500 they can wrap like an envelope or a biofilm around themselves. 385 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,600 Well that makes them undetectable to the immune 386 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,100 system. Well enzymes can actually start 387 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,200 to dissolve and break that down. So if you can dissolve and 388 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,100 breakdown that biofilm, you make that sell more recognizable to 389 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:51,100 the immune system so it can attack and destroy it. 390 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:54,400 So high. A proteolytic enzyme intake is 391 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,600 actually quite scientific and its ability to help a cancer 392 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,700 patient. So we give massive doses of high 393 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,900 proteolytic enzymes. What else are we doing? 394 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:08,000 So we're doing a high-dose curcumin, but in the form of 395 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,500 turmeric root extract, not the isolated curcuminoids in a 396 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,100 laboratory, we give turmeric root extract, which is really 397 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:20,400 high in curcuminoids, the studies on curcumin and its 398 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,800 effects on. Stem cells in cancer, go to the 399 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,500 ceiling, you know. So that's another thing that 400 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,800 we've added to the protocol and so everything will be done. 401 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,700 You know, like I said is completely supported by the 402 00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:38,400 science that has come out in the literature over the last, you 403 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,900 know, level 63 years since gerson's. 404 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:45,900 Death and one certainly, you know, the oxygenation that you 405 00:24:45,908 --> 00:24:50,700 the oxygenation of cells to help increase the production of 406 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:52,300 energy on a cellular level. Level. 407 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,500 I mean that dates back to Warburg. 408 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,100 Yeah. What are y'all doing? 409 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,600 Like a from like a tracking standpoint. 410 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,600 Like how are y'all analyzing these patients to see? 411 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,700 Like if you're tracking blood, work on a regular basis. 412 00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:09,100 Certainly how are y'all moderating? 413 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,000 How these things are affecting them? 414 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Yeah, that's great. That's a great question. 415 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,700 And it's actually a really difficult one to achieve because 416 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:22,600 the patients come to our clinic, for two to three weeks and they 417 00:25:22,608 --> 00:25:26,400 come for one reason and one reason only to learn the 418 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,900 intensity and the specificity of this therapy so that they can 419 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:34,200 take it home and continue to do the therapy at home. 420 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,500 So for us to be able to, you know, spend our days, tracking 421 00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:42,300 each patient, and it would be literally thousands, right? 422 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,600 Over 5 10, 20 years, it's impossible. 423 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:51,400 So the patients are instructed that when they leave the clinic, 424 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,800 every four to six weeks, they need to be sending the blood 425 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,800 their blood results to us so that we can see what's going on. 426 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:01,600 And we can make adjustments to the supplement protocol because 427 00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:04,600 even though the supplements are natural, they still need to be 428 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,600 managed. I mean, you're dealing with 429 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,600 thyroid glandular, you're doing with potassium salts, you're 430 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,200 dealing with lugol's solution which is iodine. 431 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,200 And these are things that are natural and effective in the 432 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,700 therapy like this, but they need to be managed, you know? 433 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:22,700 So they're required to come to us once they leave the clinic. 434 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:26,100 We can't spend our days trying to track them down. 435 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,200 And then the second problem is this compliance, right? 436 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:34,800 I mean, this is a strict radical dietary and lifestyle change 437 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,200 that. Quite frankly, that if you line 438 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,700 up 100 people, 10 will actually do it when they go home. 439 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Live in a society, that's such an immediate gratification 440 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,500 society that people's discipline today and their ability to 441 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:52,700 radically change their diet and Lifestyles. 442 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,500 It's out the window like night and day from when Gerson was 443 00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:02,400 alive, a completely different generation existing today that 444 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,800 is really incapable of being extremely disciplined, which is 445 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,200 needed if you want to heal yourself on this therapy and so, 446 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,900 So we can call up mrs. Jones and say, mrs. 447 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:15,900 Jones. This is dr. 448 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:19,200 Vickers, are you doing the Gerson Therapy as we taught you? 449 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,500 Exactly. At the clinic? 450 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,000 Yes, dr. Victor are you sure you're not 451 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,900 doing you know? Eating cookies cake and ice 452 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,100 cream. No dr. 453 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:31,100 Vickers I'm not eating cooked, you know, the reality is 90% of 454 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:34,800 the people. They just fall off the wagon and 455 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,600 they do not finish being able to accomplish what they set out to 456 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,300 accomplish. And that's really one of the 457 00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:44,800 unfortunate. And you know issues today that 458 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,300 were dealing with and and it's just gotten worse over the 25 459 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:52,500 years that you know, that I've been doing this 25 years ago 460 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,600 when I started, I could probably tell you that compliance was 461 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,100 probably anywhere from 30 to 40 people out of 100 would actually 462 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:04,100 do what they needed to do to save their lives today. 10 to 20 463 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,900 over a generation because 25 years essentially generation. 464 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,700 Oh yeah. But so they're required to send 465 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:16,000 us your blood results. We really don't we really don't 466 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,600 push them to do scans for at least six to nine months because 467 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,400 that's how long it takes typically for the body to have a 468 00:28:22,408 --> 00:28:26,300 dent in being able to break down the tumor, the first three to 469 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,900 six months, we're just trying to restore metabolism, which is 470 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:34,000 ultimately the immune system and then it's a At six month, Mark 471 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,600 where you really start to see the tumor starting to get broken 472 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,900 down. So it's between 6 and 12 months 473 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:44,800 usually the 12 month Mark that you'll see tumors disappear or 474 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:51,600 get significantly smaller, dr. Gerson was adamant, even at that 475 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,200 stage, if the tumor is disappeared, they must do the 476 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,200 therapy for another year. So, this is a two-year mandatory 477 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,400 therapy at home. And if they stop the therapy 478 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,300 once the tumors are gone, the cancer is going to come back 479 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:15,000 because you haven't rebuild the underlying depletion and haven't 480 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,600 completely address the issue of toxicity until that two-year, 481 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,000 Mark is completed. So it is a two-year therapy even 482 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,700 though tumors can disappear after a year but maybe after a 483 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,800 year, we'll ask our patients 9 to 12 months. 484 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,200 Go ahead and get Tas can, if you want clear clarification that 485 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,900 the tumors are gone but in all honesty, you don't need that at 486 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:42,600 this point when you see a patient come in with six to 12 487 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,100 months to live and the way they look and then what they look 488 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:49,600 like at the end of one year, you know, they're clearly on their 489 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,200 way to healing and so you can get the scans and stuff to prove 490 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,800 that and it does. But why would you subject 491 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,300 yourself to something? That is 150 chest x-rays in 492 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,800 terms of radiation exposure. Are you know, unless you're 493 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,300 clearly going downhill rapidly, and we need to find out what's 494 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:12,000 going on to see if the disease is progressing or whatever. 495 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,800 Maybe going on, we just don't see the need to go ahead and get 496 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,400 another CAT scan or pet scan especially if blood tests 497 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,400 indicate that your cancer is, you know, clearly getting 498 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,200 better. And that would be IE tumor 499 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,300 markers, right? It is this is this, a hold true 500 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,500 for all different types of cancer is this specific to a 501 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:36,800 certain certain Locale of Sir. Well. 502 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,800 Certain cancers have certain tumor markers some cancers don't 503 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,600 write but a lot of your cancers have tumor markers and you can 504 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,500 watch like, let's take the prostate. 505 00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:51,200 For example. There's the PSA test, a lot of 506 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,600 our prostate cancer patients, obviously come with extremely 507 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200 high PSAs. We had one guy come in with 508 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,500 keeps a 1060, I'd never seen anything higher than that until 509 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,500 recently. Some guy came in with 1500. 510 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Well, when Joe came in, The 1060 hum like there is no because 511 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,900 that that defines the activity of the disease in the body like 512 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,900 that's really active and really you know, spread throughout the 513 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,300 body. So when Joe came and I'm like oh 514 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:23,400 my God, you know I really don't think we're going to be able to 515 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,200 help this guy to be perfectly honest. 516 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:30,300 And and lo and behold, I get an email from Joe, I don't know, 517 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,900 six, eight months ago now, his PSA was down to 14. 518 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:40,600 I mean it's utterly A shocking at what this therapy is capable 519 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,500 of doing sometimes. And so there's a patient like 520 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,600 that, who, you know, we're scratching our head, like how we 521 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,200 can help this guy and he's on his way to being cured. 522 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600 And then we have the patient who walks in were like, oh yeah, 523 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,700 this is a slam dunk. And for whatever reason, whether 524 00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:57,500 it's compliance, whether it's, you know, who knows what it is. 525 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,200 Are they in an area where there's some really high 526 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,700 environmental exposure, you know, the variables are so great 527 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,500 going into a therapy like this and getting well we just can't 528 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,900 put our finger on it, you know. Some people that we don't think 529 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:12,600 we can help our completely cured some that we think is the slam 530 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,900 dunk, they die. You know we don't we don't 531 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:18,100 really quite understand it to be perfectly honest. 532 00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:22,800 But you know the reality is we're still able to reverse all 533 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,100 these diseases and most notably cancer. 534 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:28,300 The other ones are simple. You know, I mean all these other 535 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:32,800 but non-malignant diseases. There are walk in the park but 536 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,600 you know cancer is the monster in the room but you know so you 537 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000 can track a lot of these. That have tumor markers. 538 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,900 You can watch those tumor markers, go down. 539 00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,200 As the as the disease process is getting weaker and weaker and 540 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,900 weaker to the point where their tumor markers are normal. 541 00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,300 And at that point you can you can announce them cured. 542 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,900 What do you see with patients taking in that amount of 543 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,700 fructose on and such a regular recurring basis? 544 00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:58,800 Like are you seeing their blood glucose levels and Insulin 545 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:06,300 requirements go up as well. Absolutely not you know Nobel 546 00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,400 Peace Prize winner, Albert Schweitzer who called Gerson the 547 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400 greatest genius and medical history. 548 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,900 Eight years before he won the Nobel Prize, he had severely 549 00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:20,900 Advanced diabetes Gerson cured him in six weeks. 550 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,900 How is that possible on a therapy? 551 00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:30,900 That's giving you 3,500 to, 4,000 calories of sugar in a day 552 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:35,900 because Everything, the Gerson Therapy revolves around is 553 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:42,200 restoring the body's ability to convert glucose into energy and 554 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,900 you give me any type 2 diabetic across the board, 100%. 555 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:54,500 We will cure every single one inside of six to eight weeks on 556 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:58,400 this protocol. And we can't say that about 557 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,700 cancer because out of 100. Now, But with terminal stage, 558 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:07,100 three stage for cancers. If there were numbers, we could 559 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:10,699 give someone and these are hypothetical numbers of people 560 00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:14,699 who would be compliant to the therapy in terminal conditions. 561 00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:18,600 Given six to 12 months to live. You know, we might care 25 or 562 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,100 30, the other, maybe 70%, maybe 30, to 40 percent of those. 563 00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:27,400 Maybe they can live anywhere from, you know, an extra two to 564 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,500 ten years. I have active patients with 565 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:34,500 active cancer, still living, and after seven, eight years of 566 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:38,699 embarking on this therapy, but you give us someone with type 2 567 00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:42,699 diabetes and across the board within six to eight weeks. 568 00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:46,800 They're cured on a therapy. Getting 3,500 to 4,000 calories 569 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,300 of fruit and vegetable sugars every single day. 570 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,699 What about? Because everything we do, go 571 00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:55,000 ahead. No, I didn't mean to catch you 572 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:01,300 up what we're saying? It's because the therapy 573 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:05,600 addresses, the three steps of metabolism in the human body 574 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:09,700 better than anything on the planet can do. 575 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,900 And so, when you are restoring a diabetics ability to convert 576 00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:20,600 glucose into energy, it happens so quickly, you have to 577 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,400 understand. There's, there's a few things 578 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600 that are affecting their ability to convert glucose into energy. 579 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,900 Particularly in diabetics. And, you know, those who suffer 580 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:34,300 with metabolic syndrome is simply have cholesterol 581 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,600 occupying, insulin, receptor sites. 582 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,900 And so you put them on this therapy. 583 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,700 Particularly with flax oil when you take flax oil, It's 584 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,200 incredible. What it does to cholesterol in 585 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,900 the body, cholesterol, in the body is hard, it's hard at body 586 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:52,200 temperature, that's why it clogs arteries. 587 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,900 And it's also occupying insulin receptor sites. 588 00:35:55,300 --> 00:36:00,800 When you take just flax oil raw in it, in its raw state, it 589 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:07,400 literally melts cholesterol into solution and is able to pass it 590 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,500 and clear it through the liver. And so, just by doing that, what 591 00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:16,100 you can do for a type 2, Barek, you can plummet their numbers in 592 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:20,200 a matter of weeks, but then you add all the other aspects of the 593 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,800 Gerson protocol, most notably, the supplement protocol and 594 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,700 voila, I mean, diabetics are, you know, like I said, six to 595 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:31,200 eight weeks. Simple stuff. 596 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,500 What about a protein intake like as a, if they're not eating? 597 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,500 Like they eating animal proteins to or is it just something to 598 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,000 the fruits and vegetables every hour on the hour? 599 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,900 Yeah, that's a great question. You know, people always say, 600 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,100 well, if this is a vegetarian diet, where am I going to get my 601 00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:55,100 protein from? Well, where does a horse or a 602 00:36:55,107 --> 00:36:58,700 cow, get their protein from? Well a cow has six stomachs. 603 00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:02,200 That has nothing to do with it. They still require the same 604 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,900 basic foundations of amino acids and everything to maintain the 605 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:07,800 muscle mass that they're able to maintain. 606 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:12,500 How do they do it without eating meat eggs, cheese Dairy, Very 607 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:19,900 well the way they do it is grass potatoes, carrots, oats, all of 608 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:24,300 these things that we're eating, even on a vegetarian diet are 609 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:26,500 getting more than enough protein. 610 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:31,000 And then you compile that with the raw spirulina that we're 611 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,200 adding, there's not a more perfect protein than raw 612 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,800 spirulina or even your dried powdered organic spirulina meets 613 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,000 protein needs for the human body. 614 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,500 Now with that said, after six weeks on the Gerson Therapy, 615 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:55,200 Gerson required 4, to 6, tablespoons of nonfat, organic 616 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,400 yogurt daily. Now, he included this in his 617 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,000 diet long before a study came out by a guy by the name of 618 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,200 Robert good out of the University of Minnesota back in 619 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,600 the 80s. He did a study now, Gerson was 620 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200 dead in 1959 in I already added it to his protocol back then. 621 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,900 Back in the 80s. A guy by the name of Robert 622 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:21,700 good. He did a study where he took 623 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:25,100 very sick, people. I believe it was cancer patients 624 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:30,300 and he put them on an all vegetarian diet and immediately 625 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:34,100 I think it's an all vegan diet immediately for the first six 626 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:39,500 weeks, their immune systems went through the roof, but after six 627 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:44,500 weeks, they began to drop a bit and then Plateau. 628 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,700 They still work. A higher than original but they 629 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,500 play, but they dropped and plateaued from their maximum 630 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:56,500 capacity, it's six weeks. It wasn't until Robert good 631 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,200 added yogurt into their protocol. 632 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,800 That the immune system went back to functioning at an optimal 633 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:10,500 level Gerson, to this empirically before his death, 634 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:16,100 when he added yogurt into the diet for, probably that very 635 00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:19,100 same reason. He probably noticed that there 636 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:23,700 was some kind of a shift in the immune system after six weeks. 637 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,800 And he threw in yogurt at the six week Mark for the remainder 638 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,700 of the therapy. And so while it's not an all 639 00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:37,700 vegan diet, the only thing they can have is that nonfat, organic 640 00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:41,000 yogurt. And if they get low fat or whole 641 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,200 milk yogurt, their chances of survival drop dramatically 642 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,800 because those tumors love fat tumors are hormonal monsters and 643 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,900 they will feed on fat like you cannot Imagine Gerson saw this 644 00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:00,400 time and time again, especially when he fed them eggs. 645 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,600 If he fed them eggs, their tumors grew out of control. 646 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,000 So I've had several people in the podcast that have reversed 647 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,700 diabetes and they've been plagued with glioblastoma brain 648 00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:18,700 cancer. And they've reversed that 649 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,300 following pretty much a carnivore diet, which is very 650 00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:26,200 high in fat and protein, Beans eggs, all animal based products. 651 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,400 What do you think of that? Well, you know I'd like to have 652 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,800 more information that first of all are they, are they actually 653 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200 five to seven years out and cured. 654 00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:39,100 That's the first thing I'd like to ask, right? 655 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,800 Look a diabetic, right? Why do they have diabetes? 656 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:48,500 Because they're eating all this processed crap food, right? 657 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,500 All the process. White sugar, white flour, white 658 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:53,800 rice. They're eating. 659 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,300 All of these Foods. Well, if you put them on a 660 00:40:56,308 --> 00:40:59,100 carnivore diet, you take them off all that crap. 661 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,600 It's going to show immediate effect in the blood results. 662 00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:04,600 But what did we find out with the Atkins diet? 663 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,100 What happened with the Atkins diet for people who are on it 664 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:12,500 for one to three years? Their metabolism started to shut 665 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:16,200 down and there's very specific reasons for that which we 666 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,200 haven't gone into because they're the things that the 667 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,600 Gerson Therapy addresses, on a cellular level that restores 668 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,000 proper metabolism. But by taking a diabetic, right 669 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,900 to take taking a diabetic, getting off all that crap and 670 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:32,700 just feeding them meat and bacon and whatever you're going to see 671 00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,400 a shift, you will definitely see a shift in their glucose levels. 672 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:39,400 No doubt about it. But if they stay on that diet 673 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,800 for a year to three years, forget it, their kidneys and it 674 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,400 will wreak complete havoc. And this can be explained on a 675 00:41:47,408 --> 00:41:49,400 scientific level. It's, you know, it's not 676 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:55,600 complicated but you know, in regards The cancer patient. 677 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,100 First of all, and I'm not questioning you, but just one or 678 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:03,100 two cases is completely anecdotal and you don't know, 679 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,400 you know how long have they survived? 680 00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:09,800 Let me give you a very famous chiropractor, what was his name? 681 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,500 He was a very famous chiropractor within the Natural 682 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:16,500 Health industry and he was a young guy who got brain cancer 683 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:21,700 and he went on the ketogenic diet and his tumor allegedly had 684 00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:25,000 gone away. Well at the The 67 year mark, 685 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,800 his tumor came back with a vengeance, and he passed away. 686 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,300 So quickly going back on the ketogenic diet, he actually 687 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,800 called me to seek out treatment at one point right towards the 688 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,900 end, but it was too late. And he, you know, he was a very 689 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:42,800 famous chiropractor and forgive me for not being able to recall 690 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,400 his name, off the top my head, but that's a classic example. 691 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,400 There's a guy who did ketogenic with brain cancer and and 692 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,600 believe it or not, we don't treat brain cancer. 693 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,200 The one thing we will not treat and the reason why is because 694 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,600 the brain is obviously a closed compartment. 695 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,800 The way that the human body heals cancer, you know, tumors 696 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,500 of the colon, the prostate is through inflammation. 697 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,100 That's how the human body heals. An advanced cancer is typically 698 00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:18,700 through inflammation and so if you're causing inflammation in a 699 00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:23,600 brain, in a closed compartment, well then there's, you could end 700 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,500 up killing Killing a patient. So we typically don't take 701 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,400 active brain cancer patients as our patients for that reason. 702 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,900 Now, 60, 70 years ago, you know what they used to do is they 703 00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:40,400 actually used to cut a hole in the skull and just wrap the 704 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,800 skull very tightly with bandaging, to give the brain the 705 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,000 expansion ability. You know, to help the patient 706 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,800 live longer. There's actually a very famous 707 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,800 movie Called Death be not proud. It's actually a Pulitzer 708 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,500 prize-winning book written in 1956, by one of America's top 709 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,000 journalists top famous journalist. 710 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,300 Even to this day, his name was John Gunther and his son came 711 00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:16,400 down with brain cancer, and did the Gerson Therapy, and his sons 712 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,800 tumor completely disappeared after one year, on the Gerson 713 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,400 Therapy. And so excuse me, my 714 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,700 one-year-old child hear screaming in the background, 715 00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:30,700 prior worth it, kind of took me off my thought there anyway, so 716 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,000 that book was written in 1956. It's a Pulitzer prize-winning 717 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,400 book called Death, be not proud written by junk, John Gunther 718 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,700 one of history's, most renowned American journalists, it was, 719 00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:47,500 his son who came down with cancer and they sought out the 720 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:51,900 services of dr. Gerson after one year, this Boys 721 00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:56,900 cancer was completely gone after one year. 722 00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:01,900 Now, this boy was on his way to Harvard or Yale was a star 723 00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:07,500 lacrosse player, active socially in his boarding school, when the 724 00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:11,000 tumor was gone, they took him off the therapy. 725 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,400 They figured he was cured. Took them off the therapy 726 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,500 against dr. Gerson's recommendations and 727 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,300 what happened, the tumor came back and this is all documented 728 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,900 and there's a movie on it. Rick made a 1975. 729 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:30,800 You can go to YouTube and put in death, be not proud, 1975 Robby. 730 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,800 Benson was actually the star of that, you know, Robby Benson is, 731 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,800 hmm. Yeah, he was amazing. 732 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:39,600 You're, you know, star back in the 70s and 80s. 733 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,400 It was one of his first roles portraying dr. 734 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,200 Gerson's patient. So, anyway, this young boys, 735 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,200 completely cured, and it's documented in the book. 736 00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,100 It's documented in the movie and they take them off the therapy. 737 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:55,200 Well, what happens? The cancer comes back. 738 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,800 Now they solicit dr. Gerson again, and they solicit 739 00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:04,400 the medical doctors to now, participate in this boy's care. 740 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,100 So you see in the movie and The book a battle going on between 741 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,600 dr. Gerson and the medical doctors 742 00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:14,600 what medical doctors want to do in a brain cancer. 743 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,400 They always want to give artificial steroid because it 744 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,000 will temporarily decrease, the tumors for about three months 745 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,000 until they completely deplete the liver and the nutrient 746 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000 status of the body, and then the cancer grows out of control in 747 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,500 the patient dies. That's you can almost guarantee 748 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:35,300 that when you give the steroids, they were insistent on giving 749 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:39,800 this boy artificial. Well, Gerson was adamantly 750 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,500 against it because he knew what would happen. 751 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,800 So we came to a compromise with them, which he knew he did not 752 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,600 want to do, because he knew what would happen. 753 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,400 He said, instead of giving this boy artificial steroids, let's 754 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,700 give him egg yolk. Let's give him a joke. 755 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:57,900 Why? Because how does your body 756 00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:03,400 produce all your steroid? Hormones naturally cholesterol. 757 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,700 All your hormones are created from cholesterol. 758 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,500 Well, what's an egg yolk? It's pure cholesterol. 759 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,000 So Gerson was able to come to a compromise rather than give this 760 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,400 boy. Artificial laboratory made 761 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,300 steroids. Let's just give him a leg yoke 762 00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:24,800 and let the body create its own natural anti-inflammatories. 763 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,000 So that's what they did and the tumor grew out of control and 764 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,100 they lost him. Gerson didn't want to do it but 765 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:35,900 the family was adamant, the medical doctors were adamant, so 766 00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:39,100 he had to come to a Compromise. And to his last nine, gay said 767 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:41,600 that was one of the biggest mistakes he'd ever made in his 768 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,900 60 years of practicing medicine. And so the way cancer heals the 769 00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:50,300 human, you know, kills these tumors is through inflammation. 770 00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:53,400 We can't do that in a brain cancer anymore because they 771 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,700 don't do brain protocols the same way they did back when that 772 00:47:56,700 --> 00:47:59,800 book was written in 1956. Well, that patient was actually 773 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,200 in the 40s but the book was written in 1956. 774 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,700 So, In a brain cancer specifically, I guess through 775 00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:12,500 the theory of trying to starve the tumor of glucose. 776 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,800 Well, perhaps it has some validity, but I can tell you 777 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,200 beyond the shadow of a doubt. If you do the ketogenic diet in 778 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:26,200 a majority of these cancers, there's going to be absolutely 779 00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:29,200 in the next ten years because this is a recent Fad in cancer 780 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,700 treatment, the ketogenic diet for cancer. 781 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:35,100 Treatment is a recent fat. There is no long-term evidence 782 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:39,100 that it works with any kind of consistency whatsoever none and 783 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:43,800 I'm 100% convinced doing the Gerson Therapy for 25 years now 784 00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,000 that in 10 years there will still be no evidence that the 785 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,800 ketogenic diet has any ability to consistently reverse Advanced 786 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,200 disease. And it is the antithesis of the 787 00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,900 Gerson Therapy, it is literally the antithesis in a Peridot 788 00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:04,600 speaking. Paradigmatically of the Gerson 789 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,600 Therapy in the way that it affects metabolism. 790 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,600 And so you know this this person that you're speaking of and the 791 00:49:14,607 --> 00:49:16,700 person I'm referring to the chiropractor. 792 00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,200 It didn't save him, it may have helped him. 793 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,200 But in the end after seven years, He ultimately succumbed 794 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:28,300 to his brain cancer. And so I have to think that that 795 00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,800 would be the direction that most people would take if they were 796 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,700 to stick to a ketogenic diet for cancer treatment. 797 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,500 Let me ask you, is what do you do? 798 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,600 Like, you don't have cancer. I'm assuming, how do you 799 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,200 personally eat, knowing what you know, how do you have you? 800 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,900 How does your family eat? Yeah, that's a great question, 801 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:53,300 you know? And we I have cancer, you have 802 00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:56,100 cancer, we all have cancer, right? 803 00:49:56,100 --> 00:50:01,700 That's a normal daily process in the human body to take cancer 804 00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:06,600 cells, break them down digest them and eliminate them through 805 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,100 the liver and the kidneys and the intestinal tract, right? 806 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:12,600 That is a natural process, we all have cancer but to answer 807 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,000 your question, I pretty much stick to a rule girl. 808 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,600 Person laid out once his patients were cured and it's an 809 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:28,100 80/20 rule. 80% of the time, I'm consuming raw organic produce 810 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,500 80% of the time, I will literally consumed five to seven 811 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:36,400 pounds of organic produce a day, whether it's in juicing or just 812 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,800 eating, you know, I'll have a, I'll have a big smoothie in the 813 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,000 morning consisting of berries. Maybe some mango, I put a little 814 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,100 bit of flaxseed oil in it or a little bit of maple. 815 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,200 Syrup in it as well. And so that'll be my morning 816 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,200 breakfast. Really. 817 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,900 And then I'll do a few juices and those few juices compound 818 00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:57,700 you know at least three to four pounds of fruits and vegetables. 819 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:00,500 So right there between my smoothie and my juices, I've got 820 00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:04,400 five pounds at least of organic fruits and vegetables and then 821 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:08,600 I'll have three cooked meals or to cook meals during the day 822 00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:12,700 with more raw fruits and vegetables like an avocado, you 823 00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:16,200 know. So most of my diet is organic 824 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,600 fruits and vegetables. Al's, but I love a good burger. 825 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,600 I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie, I love a good burger and 826 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,100 So 20% of my diet, I'll have a steak, I'll have a burger I'll 827 00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:30,000 have a beer you know, I'll enjoy myself and Gerson actually 828 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,400 encouraged it if you're healthy and or if you're one of his 829 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,500 cured patients because he felt that the, the liver and the 830 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,000 immune system would function at a more optimal level. 831 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,300 If you were giving it something that it had to work with. 832 00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:47,000 And so that's generally the rule that I follow an 80/20 rule. 833 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,900 I gotcha let me play Devil's Advocate with you for a second 834 00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:54,300 here. So cancer as a whole is 835 00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:57,000 relatively new to our species, correct? 836 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,000 Well, realtor amazing with thing within. 837 00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:06,100 It's certainly grown in its prominence over the past 200 838 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,200 years. Oh, pause most definitely has 839 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,400 grown and it's problem in its prominence over the last 200 840 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,200 years. But it's my understanding, 841 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,000 there's even biblical references, you know, to cancer. 842 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,900 I forget the word they use, I don't know if it's consumption 843 00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:24,200 or something else in the Bible but that was pretty much known 844 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,100 to be. You know, the malignant disease 845 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:31,200 that you and I know is cancer. Yeah people like before the 846 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,800 Industrial Revolution agriculture becoming what it is. 847 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,300 Now before industrial farming You know, monocropping, when 848 00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:43,300 plant matter did not make up the majority of the diet when people 849 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:47,100 were predominately eating, you know, animal-based Foods. 850 00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,700 They didn't seem to be as plagued with cancer as they do 851 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:52,700 now, and a lot of people attribute that predominantly to 852 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,700 the hyper palatable ultra-processed foods, which I 853 00:52:55,707 --> 00:53:00,800 think makes sense for sure. But if there wasn't as much 854 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,000 cancer, you know, per capita in the population demographic, when 855 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,500 the predominant diet was animal-based. 856 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,800 Is that. What, what, what do you think of 857 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,900 that? Yeah, I just agree with that 858 00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,100 wholeheartedly. I would not say that the diet 859 00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:20,500 was primarily carnivore. I mean, look at nature. 860 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,500 Look at all the fruits and vegetables God provides for us 861 00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:31,000 year, in and year out, if you look at ancient life of, you 862 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,200 know, of early man, look at the weather Cycles. 863 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,700 Let's start From the north. Okay, let's just start I'm from 864 00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:42,700 Wisconsin. So let's start from the North in 865 00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:46,200 May. You get your asparagus and you 866 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,700 know you get some of the other things you can grow early on in 867 00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:52,000 the season. Then in June you have all your 868 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,600 strawberries and probably a couple other things that I, you 869 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,200 know, I can't think of right now, then in July, you've got 870 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,100 blackberries, you've got blueberries, you've got 871 00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:05,000 raspberries, then in August you have your apples and September, 872 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,500 you have your apples in October, you have your Apple. 873 00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:12,700 Now it's too cold and so people were naturally, migrating South. 874 00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:16,200 And as you Maya, graded, South all of a sudden your peaches 875 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,600 become available in Atlanta, Georgia and then the next thing, 876 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,500 you know, in November December and into January early February, 877 00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:30,400 all your oranges, your lemons, your grapes, so early man wasn't 878 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,600 just eating meat. I mean, I don't know where that 879 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,400 comes from early man was migrating North. 880 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,500 South south to North and as they're migrating, God, Is 881 00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:48,200 providing all the food they need and I'm sure a kill was much 882 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,600 more difficult than grabbing something off a tree. 883 00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:58,200 And so I just find it hard to believe that the human being was 884 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,600 a purely carnivore creature, when even our teeth are enzyme 885 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,500 production and our gut and intestinal. 886 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,400 I'll track are completely consistent with an herbivore it 887 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:17,100 creature, not a carnivore that science and so you know these 888 00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,500 theories that come out if you're really thinking through your 889 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:26,000 like does that really make sense that early man was primary 890 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,300 carnivore when God provided everything from January to 891 00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:34,300 December, going north to south with the with the climate? 892 00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:39,200 For man, I just don't believe that and I hear that all the 893 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,600 time because that's quite a common thing. 894 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,200 Now, you know, books have been written about all the carnivore 895 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,900 diet, the paleo diet, you know, this and that, but I'm just not 896 00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:49,700 of that camp. Gotcha. 897 00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:52,100 Gotcha. No, yeah, I appreciate different 898 00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:56,000 perspectives for sure, for sure. And that's good, man. 899 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,300 I like it. So what about you said? 900 00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:02,000 You had a one-year-old son, I guess he's not eating a whole 901 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,100 lot of Whole Foods yet, right? She's one year, one year, two 902 00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:11,200 months, and she still, you know, she still, she just finished 903 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,800 nursing within the last couple months. 904 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,400 And so now we have her on a goat faced organic goat based milk. 905 00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:20,500 Just, you know, a couple times a day, but she's eating. 906 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:24,900 And she's eating raw berries, you know, she loves strawberry. 907 00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,200 She'll eat up an avocado like crazy. 908 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,100 She just had a spare guess about an hour ago. 909 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,600 So no, we give her a lot of, you know, she's eating a lot of 910 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,500 fruits and vegetables at this point. 911 00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:37,100 Gadget, very cool. Very cool. 912 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,400 Wow, I love it, man. I like bringing on people with 913 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,700 different perspectives for sure, and it's always interesting to 914 00:56:41,707 --> 00:56:44,500 see what's working well for you and your family and your 915 00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:45,600 clientele base. Man. 916 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,200 I appreciate it. Where do people go to find out 917 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,700 more about the clinic? Yeah. 918 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:57,000 So our website is Gerson, Clinic.com Gerson is ger s0n, 919 00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:01,300 clinic.com and they can always reach me, you know, I'm on the 920 00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:03,600 front end of everything. So I'm answering phone calls, 921 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,300 emails texts. To book people into the clinic 922 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:11,100 and director at Gerson. Clinic.com is my email. 923 00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:13,800 So anyone who's interested in possibly coming to the clinic? 924 00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,100 That's always an option. And we also sell, you know, all 925 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:21,100 the Gerson products on our webinar on our store, which you 926 00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:25,400 can access via our website Gerson clinic.com but our stores 927 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:30,100 website is actually Gerson clinics plural.com as well. 928 00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:34,000 So those are the three places that you know you can access me 929 00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,100 the clinic. And or some of the things that 930 00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:39,100 we offer for our patients. And if somebody wanted to do a 931 00:57:39,107 --> 00:57:42,500 deeper dive into dr. Gerson what reference would you 932 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:46,600 recommend? Their I'd seek out the movies on 933 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,400 the internet so just quickly there, 7 or 8 ohms. 934 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,700 So you've got the Gerson Miracle which won best film at the 2004 935 00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:56,400 Beverly Hills Film Festival. You've got dying to have known 936 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400 which is my favorite. That's the sequel in 2006. 937 00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:03,500 You have the beautiful truth in 2008 which actually Chronicles 938 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:09,100 one of my patients. You have food heels, you have 939 00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:13,400 food cures, you have Food Matters, Food Matters was an 940 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,800 epic documentary that came out even before the Gerson Miracle, 941 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,300 that mostly Chronicle. Dr. Gerson's work. 942 00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:22,800 I mean, that's an epic documentary Food Matters. 943 00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:26,500 So I would seek out, you know, these documentaries because 944 00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:30,200 they're fascinating, they give a great historical perspective. 945 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,700 There's a myriad of testimonials of people with there before 946 00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:38,200 After medical records of stage, four cancer being completely 947 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,100 healed. So that's probably where I would 948 00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:44,200 send them a book was written called healing Hopeless by dr. 949 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,300 Gerson's grandson. That's a great book and then 950 00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,300 Charlotte's Epic book. His daughter who I lived with 951 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,700 Charlotte Gerson. She wrote a book called Healing 952 00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:57,500 The Gerson Way by Charlotte Gerson and a woman by the name 953 00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,700 of BR. The bishop who is actually a 954 00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:03,400 friend of Prince Charles's, who we cured of advanced terminal 955 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,700 melanoma. So Oh, you know, she's quite a 956 00:59:05,707 --> 00:59:10,400 renowned BBC or was a renowned BBC journalist. 957 00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:14,000 And like I said, a friend of the friends of Prince Charles who's 958 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,100 a great advocate of the Gerson Therapy. 959 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,600 I, that's all I would talk about as it relates to Prince Charles, 960 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,000 but, you know, but yeah. So that was a book written by 961 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,100 Charlotte and Beyond a bishop Healing, The Gerson like 962 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:28,700 perfect. Well, I will definitely link. 963 00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:30,500 That's all those. Make it easy for people to find 964 00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:32,200 those references. Dr. Vickers. 965 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,000 I certainly appreciate the time. Good, sir. 966 00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:35,900 And I have Enjoy the conversation. 967 00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:37,500 Thank you. Thanks for having me. 968 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:38,800 I appreciate it. You bet, man. 969 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:35,900 Take care. Enjoy the conversation. 970 00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:37,500 Thank you. Thanks for having me. 971 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:38,800 I appreciate it. You bet, man. 972 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,300 Take care.