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Hello ladies and gents, Robert 
Sykes, Keto savage.com. 

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Today I've got special guest 
Brandon Epstein on the line and 

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he is a mental performance 
coach. 

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We dive into all things mental 
performance, cognition, how to 

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have the right mind state and 
just overcome obstacles in life,

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how to reprogram your brain. 
He wrote a book called Program 

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to Fail, How to breakthrough 
your mental block and achieve 

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greatness. 
I'm going to be getting a copy 

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of that and listen to that as a 
train. 

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I am not very good at 
proactively doing like things 

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that improve my mental mind, my 
mind state and just like 

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relaxation, recharging. 
I'm just kind of like a go, go, 

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go non-stop kind of person. 
So I would totally benefit from 

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something like this. 
I enjoyed chatting with them. 

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We did like a, an in person live
moment of meditation here with 

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myself as the example therapy 
session on the spot here with 

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the podcast. 
That was pretty interesting. 

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I enjoyed it. 
So without further delay, sit 

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back, relax, enjoy our 
conversation with Brandon 

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Epstein. 
We are live Brandon. 

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How are you, brother? 
I'm doing excellent. 

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Happy to be here with you. 
Very grateful to hopefully share

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some Nuggets of wisdom with your
audience today and move them 

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forward towards their goals. 
I'm excited to be chatting with 

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you, man. 
So I, I talk about mindset quite

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a bit on the podcast. 
I feel like everybody that 

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listens to my show, I mean, it 
resonates with them, but I, I 

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can't say that I've had anybody 
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specific mindset coach per SE. 
So I'd love to kind of dive into

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that as a profession. 
Like what? 

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What does that entail exactly? 
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And, you know, I'm a a mental 
performance coach, which, you 

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know, you ask different mental 
performance coaches what they do

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and they could tell you a lot of
different things because it's an

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umbrella for a lot of different 
modalities. 

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But ultimately, our job is to 
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You tell us that you're right 
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We have the baseline from where 
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We want to make sure that you 
achieve your goals. 

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So usually the people who would 
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are high achievers. 
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professional athletes, business 
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people who are really driven to 
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their life. 
It's definitely not a passive 

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thing because Immense 
performance coach is gonna ask 

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you to go deep into the depths 
of what drives you and uncover 

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what is holding you back so you 
can reclaim the energy to propel

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you forward. 
I love it. 

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I love it. 
I would imagine doing that as 

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profession and working with 
other people and moving them and

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propelling them forward. 
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sensible that you would have had
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cognitive transformation 
yourself in order to not have 

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this sense of, you know, being 
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syndrome and working with other 
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So I'm assuming you've got a 
pretty, pretty cool origin 

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story, man. 
Yeah, absolutely, man. 

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You know, I played football in 
college and that's really what 

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brought me down the path of 
studying the mind and mental 

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performance because I was 
struggling with anxiety and low 

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self esteem and low confidence 
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freshman year. 
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looking for solutions. 
I was like, I want to get on the

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the field. 
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playing the games, not just 
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So it sent me on a spiritual 
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holding me back from playing my 
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and thriving and achieving a lot
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And so that spiritual journey, 
if you will, brought me to a 

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place where I started to learn 
about meditation, learn about 

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energy training, learning about 
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linguistic programming, learning
about all different mental 

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techniques that were helping me 
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And then what I enjoyed most 
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I was undergoing was sharing 
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So my athletic trainer called me
the, the guru, which I don't 

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know if it's a great thing for 
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called a guru, but nonetheless, 
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And so I would, guys would come 
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through their issues physically,
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And ever since then, I was 16 
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path of bringing these tools to 
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So I did it in the research 
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After that I went out and 
started meditation app company, 

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started getting my workout to a 
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clientele base where I built my 
own business using these tools 

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actually in the fitness space 
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there. 
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really settled into doing 
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with guys from the UFC, boxing, 
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sports and I bring it to them. 
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one client and once something 
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it to others and make sure they 
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I love it, man. 
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like incredibly down or stuck 
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out of that? 
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you knew you weren't operating 
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was just a journey to figure out
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current position was and then 
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that quest of improvement over 
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Yeah, Now there is definitely a 
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There was a couple of really big
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One was like, I was never 
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business owners. 
And so I started this meditation

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app company with my buddy and, 
you know, it worked OK in the 

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beginning at 22 years old, like 
we're making a few $1000 a month

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and I just assumed it would keep
scaling and that wasn't the 

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case. 
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previously outspent my income 
and ended up in a massive amount

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of debt and actually had to 
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United States and move down to 
South America and move down to 

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managing Colombia to dig myself 
out of this debt and hit the 

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reset button on my life. 
And it took me a number of years

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of living down there and 
building my next business before

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I was out of debt and I was able
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love, which is this one-on-one 
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So that was definitely like a 
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But at the same time I had to go
through that to put all these 

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tools I teach to people into 
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you're a professional athlete or
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high achiever with a lot of 
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And so I was able to build a 7 
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$80,000 in debt using these 
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And so I, it gave me some 
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practitioner work again, you 
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experience of what it's like to 
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overcome it, and come back into 
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When you were in Columbia, did 
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or did you feel like, hey, this 
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but I know this is not what 
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Yeah, I think even at that time,
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me of like how bad my 
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And this is a part of my journey
was, you know, I was he's taking

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a lot of conscious techniques. 
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You know, you, you meditate, you
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you listen to motivational 
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Because what I uncovered later 
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terrible about myself, you know,
when I had to basically go down 

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to South America with my tails 
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start my life over again. 
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the suffering that I was 
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later when I came back to the 
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experience. 
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experience, I had an ego death. 
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facilitated me going through all
the programming that I hold in 

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the subconscious level and 
uncovering everything I believe 

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to be true about myself, about 
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And that's really, really 
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suffering that I had and what 
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emotionally in my career and 
uncovering all these terrible 

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things I believe about myself 
that literally had programmed me

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to fail in the 1st place. 
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those and reprogram them, it 
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my head. 
It's like, oh shit. 

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Like I was programmed to fail 
and I was going to live in these

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cycles of suffering until I 
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And that was, you know, a huge 
motivation for me writing this 

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book was to give this to people.
It's literally a playbook for 

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how they can do this for 
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And anyone could do this right 
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Just look at the different 
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You know, one to 10, how happy 
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How peaceful are you, right? 
Your mental well-being where you

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at 1:00 to 10:00, your physical 
health, how satisfied are you 

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with that? 
One to 10, your career, how 

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satisfied are you with what you 
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Not how much money you make, but
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One to 10. 
Your finances, one to 10. 

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Your relationships, your 
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Your tribe, one to 10. 

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Your work relationships, one to 
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I guarantee you that if you give
any of those areas those buckets

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a low score, it's because you've
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area. 
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in a victim mode. 
It's actually for you to become 

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the victor and take over control
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that, OK, these results are a 
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So if I want to change my 
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change the core programming to 
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And a lot of that is totally 
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And you don't really hear much 
about, at least I don't, I'm not

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in your wheelhouse, but I, I 
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the subconscious conditioning as
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the, the components that we all 
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journaling, the, the meditation,
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So like if you were to line up 
all the the actual actions one 

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can take to improve their mind 
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doesn't give you the attention 
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Yeah, I, I think it's, it's 
coming on stronger over the 

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years. 
And of course, you know, 

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there's, there's nothing new 
under the sun, right? 

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This thing's, these can come in 
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And so I'm sure for thousands of
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this is what was necessary to 
live in a, a clear inner planet.

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So my sense they called it, 
which means that like you have a

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clean and clear inner world. 
So you close your eyes and you 

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just feel good when you're 
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Like it's obvious, like the 
Kingdom lives within, so if you 

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have a bunch of chaos there 
beneath the surface, it's going 

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to give you a lot of negative 
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And that's why on average, 
people have 80% negative 

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thoughts and 95% of those 
thoughts are repeated every day.

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We're just running the same 
programming over and over again,

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and it's perpetuating suffering.
And so that's why we have the 

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obesity epidemic. 
It's the same thing, 'cause you 

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ask anyone who's overweight, 
they're not going to tell you. 

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Oh yeah, I just, I want to be 
overweight. 

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No, of course not. 
So you're like, OK, well I'll 

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tell you exactly what to do, 
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Eat these foods or eat in a 
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body consistently. 
It's not that they don't have 

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the willpower to do. 
It's 'cause they are programmed 

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to fail in that area of their 
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Subconsciously, they believe 
there's more suffering on the 

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other side of doing the Ellis 
actions than it is to stay where

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they are. 
Or they subconsciously just 

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don't believe it's possible, 
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Some people don't believe they 
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As long as you believe that you 
can't afford to eat healthy, you

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won't eat healthy because your 
subconscious deletes de sorts 

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and generalizes any information.
And that's why someone else, you

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know, you got someone come up to
you and be like, oh, yeah, I 

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just lost 40 lbs. 
I did this diet. 

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Whatever you be like, oh, must 
be nice. 

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But you know, I'm a single mom 
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lose weight. 
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true, you'll reinforce and make 
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And so if you look at any area 
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struggled to lose weight. 
If you struggle to make more 

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money, if you struggle with 
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struggle with your own Peace of 
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back to your inner programming. 
And you're right, you don't hear

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about this nearly as much as you
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We're taking back control. 
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but I would say that over the 
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been powers that don't want us 
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ownership, right? 
That's the whole movement 

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against masculinity right now. 
Well, what is a masculine man? 

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Masculine man is physically 
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emotionally intelligent. 
We'd that's not what you want 

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because that man cannot be 
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So it's all, in my opinion, it's
all constructs of control to 

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keep us just thinking that in 
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that we can actually have the 
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life in the present moment 
'cause that's what these tools 

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give you. 
They give you the opportunity to

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create heaven on earth here in 
the present and the now. 

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Yeah, no, I love that man. 
So like if you're if you're 

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working with somebody and they 
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your ideal, you know, Avatar? 
Like, are they coming to you 

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just frustrated with where 
they're at in their current, you

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know, day and age and they're 
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Do they know where they want to 
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that out? 
Yeah. 

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Well, I'm gonna give us an 
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here. 
You probably won't want to take 

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the one path. 
Don't want to present it to you 

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anyway. 
You could tell me right now the 

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biggest issue you're facing in 
your life. 

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I could solve it for you, and I 
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to do it. 
Or we can do a hypothetical and 

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I could just give you an example
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Hey man, I like doing hard pass,
give it to me. 

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OK, so close your eyes, take a 
deep breath in through your nose

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and everyone is listening to 
this. 

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If you're not driving, I highly 
recommend you do this as well 

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because you're going to get a 
real experience of the coaching 

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here and now you're going to be 
able to do it right now just 

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like Robert is. 
So go ahead and breathe in and 

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on the exhale, let your 
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from your ears. 
And I want you to feel, and part

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of the magic of what I can do 
and being a skilled practitioner

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is I can feel the energy in your
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So I'm feeling like there's a 
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There's just like a little 
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stomach, the sloreplex. 
It's kind of in the background. 

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It's like, yeah, I'll deal with 
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Totally like that. 
Don't have to deal with it. 

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It's some bullshit. 
Can you feel that? 

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You know what I'm talking about.
Oh yeah, always. 

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Yeah, so go ahead and sit in the
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Feel it in the body because what
you guys are going to understand

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is this isn't a mental thing, 
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mental performance coach. 
It's a it's a physical body 

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thing. 
And so feel into that in the 

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middle. 
And I want you to feel that 

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feeling of anxiety sitting in 
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And I want you to ask yourself, 
what am I believing to be true 

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in this moment? 
It's making me feel anxious. 

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There's a lot of things that I'm
believing that cause anxiety 

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right now. 
The first one that's connected 

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not from your head, don't go to 
the head story but stay in the 

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feeling and the solar Plex of 
the anxiety there feel that sit 

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right in the middle of it. 
It should feel so overwhelming 

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you have to blurt it out. 
OK what do you believe in me 

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true that's make you feel so 
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Boom, go to it. 
Man, I'm just juggling so many 

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things right now, so many things
with the business, so many 

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things with the family, so many 
things in life. 

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And I feel like I'm spread so 
thin that they're they're, 

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they're not operating at the 
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And everything I'm doing, I love
doing, but I'm just spread too 

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thin right now. 
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And so there's a two sides of 
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Like there's a we can 
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side and try to chunk down the 
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But where I like to go is the 
irrational side, which is almost

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seems too obvious for this to 
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But this is actually it. 
What's causing the anxiety is 

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right now you're believing 
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Yeah. 
Can you feel that? 

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And rationally like, you know, 
you're doing so much, but the 

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feeling of I'm not doing enough 
actually comes from like you see

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all these buckets in your life 
and you want to fill them all up

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10 out of 10 and crush in every 
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But the feeling of not I'm not 
doing enough is like, well, I'm 

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spread too thin, so I can't fill
all the buckets like I want to 

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and give them what I know is 
possible, what I really want for

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them. 
So the visceral feeling in the 

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body, the body's going, I'm not 
doing enough. 

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Can you feel that? 
All right, so I want you to sit 

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until solar plexus feel that 
feeling of I'm not doing enough.

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I just want you to accept your 
way through it. 

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And so you're just going to feel
that feeling in your solar plus 

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and you're just going to accept 
it and be like, yeah, fuck it, 

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I'm not doing enough. 
And I want you to hear you say 

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it out loud. 
I'm not doing enough. 

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I'm not doing enough. 
Yeah, let me know when you've 

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accepted that. 
I've accepted it. 

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And I want you to visualize with
your eyes closed and anyone 

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who's doing this with me and 
whatever's come up for you, I 

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want you to do this for this as 
well. 

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Visualize the time out of your 
life, stretch out in front of 

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you. 
Everything to the rights in the 

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future. 
We never get there, right? 

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The future is always an illusion
because the time, the future, we

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get to the future, it's the 
present. 

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So the future is not real. 
It's in the future. 

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So left's the past, it's already
dead. 

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We don't have time machines. 
Once it goes into the past, it's

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gone, has no control over you. 
So the only thing that's causing

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this feeling of anxiety right 
now is this belief that lives in

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the present moment. 
It's big, it's huge, it's 

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weighty right in front of you. 
I want you to see it like a 

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cloud of energy that says I'm 
not doing enough. 

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And everywhere you go, it just 
follows you around, follows you 

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around. 
It's like I have all these 

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commitments, but I'm not doing 
enough. 

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Oh, fucking it hurts and it 
doesn't feel good in the solar 

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Plex. 
I want you to feel it, feel it, 

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feel it, feel it all the way. 
Let it almost overwhelm you. 

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I want you to breathe in deeply 
through your nose. 

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Exhale. 
And a powerful wind is gonna 

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move from right to left and it's
gonna pick up this cloud of 

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energy that represents I'm not 
doing enough. 

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We're gonna move it to the left,
to left, to left, the left all 

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the way into the pass. 
And the second it goes into the 

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pass, you're gonna find that 
you're in the void at the 

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present moment, just in the 
nothingness, in the now, in the 

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eternal now, sitting deep into 
the now. 

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Nothing's here, nothing's here, 
nothing's here, nothing's here. 

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Just flying through time and 
space in the present. 

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What's the opposite of your not 
doing enough? 

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I'm doing everything. 
I'm doing more than enough. 

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How about that? 
Yeah, all right. 

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Not. 
Necessarily about doing 

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everything, not doing enough. 
The opposite, because what we're

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doing is we're alchemizing 
energy. 

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We're transmitting it to. 
The opposite is I'm doing more 

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than enough, right? 
Not enough becomes more than 

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enough. 
So why don't you repeat after 

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me? 
I believe I'm doing more than 

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enough. 
I believe I'm doing more than 

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enough. 
Breathe in deeply through your 

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nose. 
Exhale. 

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Feel this energy move down 
through your head, your neck, 

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your shoulders, your upper arms,
your lower arms, your hands, 

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your fingers, down through your 
upper back, your chest, your 

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lower back, your stomach, your 
hips, your thighs, your lower 

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legs, your feet, and your toes. 
Stay here with me. 

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Be present for the process. 
There's so many people are 

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listening to this right now 
going man, I'm moving through 

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the same thing 'cause I never 
feel like I'm doing enough. 

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So you doing this work on 
yourself is you're actually 

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giving this medicine to everyone
of your listeners who's a high 

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achiever, who's always pushing, 
who's now able to process for 

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themselves as well. 
So it's a gift for yourself and 

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it's a gift for your audience. 
And as your body settles into 

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this, I believe in doing more 
than enough. 

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Feel the energy moved through 
your body into the timeline of 

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your life. 
You remove the old energy, so 

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it's now replaced with this new 
energy that takes form there in 

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front of you. 
I'm doing more than enough. 

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And it just takes form there. 
Surround you and feel yourself 

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being held in this energetic 
aura of I'm doing more than 

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enough and feel yourself 
grounded in the middle of your 

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chest. 
And I just want you to keep 

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telling yourself I'm doing more 
than enough. 

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And what you probably 
experienced here is this is not 

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a mental exercise because we're 
not doing affirmations. 

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We actually just move the energy
in your body. 

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Can you feel that? 
Yeah, I feel pretty good. 

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Can you feel the energy in in 
the middle of your chest now? 

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Yeah, I feel pretty relaxed too.
Yeah. 

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So this is what I do for anyone 
I work with, is what we're doing

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is we are unclogging the energy 
that was living in your solar 

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plexus called the third chakra, 
and we released it. 

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And so it moves up to your 
chest. 

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And so once we release any 
mental blocks we have, the only 

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thing that's there waiting for 
us is the present moment. 

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And we all know whether you're 
athlete, business over a high 

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chief, whoever it is parent, 
you're always going to be your 

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best in the present moment. 
The present moment is always 

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your liberation, your salvation.
If you can get there, then 

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everything's good. 
There's nowhere else to get. 

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If you're in the present, you're
already there. 

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And so this is the process. 
It's basically deprogramming all

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the nonsense that creates issues
for you. 

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Because the truth is you are 
doing more than enough. 

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And now that you believe that 
you're doing more than enough, 

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you're going to have the logical
inspiration to move around the 

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different commitments and things
you have in your life to feel an

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alignment with being able to do 
more than enough. 

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And that maybe means, hey, I'm 
going to get rid of this. 

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I'm going to agree with myself. 
I'm going to put this in the 

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back burner. 
I'm going to limit this, 

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whatever it may be. 
Now the pathway is open for you 

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to be in alignment with. 
I'm doing more than enough. 

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What kind of everybody calls 
them, you know, KP is key 

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performance in the kids, but 
what what do you put in your 

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life? 
What kind of systems do you put 

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into place to have like a moment
of brutal honesty as to, OK, 

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this is moving in the direction 
I want it to or it is not and 

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this is a very objectionable way
to view it and then take action 

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accordingly? 
Yeah, I like, I like my 

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spreadsheets. 
I get in there, I track things 

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from week to week, month over 
month. 

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Like I track all the metrics 
that I feel like need to be need

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to be tracked with numbers. 
I don't think this is necessary 

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for everybody, but I'll tell you
my my greatest KPI that I track 

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is every week I give myself one 
of these coaching sessions. 

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So I coach myself and the number
one number I care about is how 

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does it feel to be me right now?
One is it feels so bad I want to

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commit a suicide. 
And 10 is I feel completely 

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whole. 
I'm living this peak experience.

450
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:01,800
So that's the number one KPI 
check in with myself every week 

451
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,320
on. 
That's the one I care most 

452
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,200
about. 
And then beyond that, I'm just 

453
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,680
living a conscious life. 
You know, I can feel if my 

454
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,000
marriage is going well, It's 
very it's very obvious. 

455
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,600
I know it's going well when 
there's limited drama and 

456
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,480
there's a lot of joy and 
presence and peace in my 

457
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,800
household. 
Same thing with my my children. 

458
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,280
You know, I can feel my body if 
I feel physically well, I feel 

459
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,720
strong. 
I know what it's like to go to 

460
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,720
the gym and feel like if I have 
strength and I can lift tabby 

461
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,240
and computers, right? 
I don't necessarily need numbers

462
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,400
for that. 
It's a feeling related for me. 

463
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,400
That's it. 
Main things that I like track 

464
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,080
for KPIs is am I doing the work 
to move my career forward? 

465
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,440
So like I said, I have this book
program to fail. 

466
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,920
So every week I just check in, I
see, hey, how many reviews am I 

467
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,760
getting my book? 
How many book sales that I have?

468
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,520
What are my key actions I'm 
taking to try to get my book out

469
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,840
there? 
Seeing those and seeing 

470
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,760
correlations between the things 
I'm doing and my ability to get 

471
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,280
the book to a broader audience. 
I'm also checking in on, you 

472
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,200
know, I run a coaching practice.
So who are the people I've 

473
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,520
connected with? 
Who are the people that I've 

474
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,160
gifted coaching sessions this 
week? 

475
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,120
How much, how many invitations 
that I make to do coaching with 

476
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,640
me? 
Everything is process oriented 

477
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,520
with me because I know if I do 
these things consistently I'm 

478
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,000
gonna get to the outcome I want.
Yeah, when, when you, you know, 

479
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,640
close your eyes and ask yourself
what's causing you the anxiety? 

480
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,160
What? 
What's typically the answer? 

481
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,200
Usually the only anxiety I'll 
feel is if I drink too much 

482
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,040
coffee, like a real physical 
one. 

483
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280
That's that's honestly the 
number one. 

484
00:24:54,760 --> 00:25:00,000
I have young kids so it's it's 
not necessarily excuse, but you 

485
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,880
have a one year old, so 
sometimes sleep is. 

486
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,520
They're usually pretty good. 
I have a three-year old and a 

487
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,680
one year old, but anyone knows 
if you're a parent, like your 

488
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,320
sleep is not your sleep anymore.
So I definitely supplement with 

489
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,240
coffee. 
And so I'd say anxiety from 

490
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,240
probably drinking too much 
coffee is the main one and then 

491
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,160
secondary one, which I feel like
I'm I'm just about there. 

492
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,240
I've really removed pretty much 
all fear from my life. 

493
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,680
I don't really have fear 
anymore. 

494
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320
I have discernment, but I don't 
have fear. 

495
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,360
It would be will I, will I have 
enough? 

496
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560
And those are just some projects
I'm working on right now, Like 

497
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,640
I'm building a retreat center 
down in Columbia and it's like, 

498
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,080
OK, well, I have enough money to
build this, you know, and just, 

499
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,680
but those are very subtle at 
this point. 

500
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,320
I wouldn't say they're like big 
anxiety points are more just 

501
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,840
like if there was anything like 
that is something that's still 

502
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,440
in question. 
Yeah, that's good, man. 

503
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,240
That's good. 
Tell me about this retreat. 

504
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,680
What what is the the plans for 
that? 

505
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,680
I really wanted to create a 
place for refuge, the high 

506
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,160
achievers, you know, I work with
a lot of, like I said, high 

507
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600
profile people who are very 
demanding lives. 

508
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,160
I want to create a space and I 
already have some land in, in 

509
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,080
the, in the jungle down there. 
It's just outside the city of 

510
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,000
Metagene, but the actual lot 
backs up onto an eco preserve. 

511
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,600
So it's just forest and jungle, 
and I wanted to have a space for

512
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,200
them to be able to come and 
disengage from everything and go

513
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,960
through this reprogramming, 
working intensive with me. 

514
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Because all it takes really just
one day of digging in and I can 

515
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,800
make incredible progress with my
clients and really clean up 

516
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,640
their inner world, bring them 
into a state of presence. 

517
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,360
So I just want to do that in 
nature, in a place that's 

518
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,040
disconnected from a lot of their
normal commitments and 

519
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,320
technology. 
And so that's the primary 

520
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,840
reason. 
Secondary, I might bring groups 

521
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:08,480
down there as well and, and do 
other retreats potentially 

522
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,960
incorporating some plant 
medicines if if my clients want 

523
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,920
to do that. 
But those are really my thoughts

524
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,400
right now. 
What do you think the biggest 

525
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,040
driver of catalyst for all the 
noise that we have and the the, 

526
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,440
you know, out of whack 
programming that we currently 

527
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760
face like what what is the 
driver for that cause? 

528
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Like if you rewind the clock 
back to when people were, you 

529
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,920
know, hunter gatherers living 
off the land in a very tight 

530
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,640
knit community setting, Like, 
sure, they had stressors there, 

531
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,920
but not the same kind of 
stressors that we have now. 

532
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,000
But it feels like their why and 
their presence and just their 

533
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,120
ability to hone in on what 
mattered seemed to become just 

534
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:53,080
more, you know, a, a default, 
whereas now you don't see that 

535
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,680
unless you seek it out. 
What? 

536
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,400
What is the catalyst for all 
that noise? 

537
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,960
Yeah, I mean, there's there's 
two parts. 

538
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,760
I think one is like we've been 
we've been programmed to live 

539
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,200
with so much fear. 
That's a big one. 

540
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,360
And that's just passed on from 
generation, generation, 

541
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,960
generation till someone breaks 
with generational curses. 

542
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,160
But biologically, those people 
had to deal with things that 

543
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600
really bought brought real fear 
into their life, right? 

544
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Like, are we going to have 
enough food? 

545
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,080
Are we going to survive being 
hunted by other animals, things 

546
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,360
of that sort? 
Are we going to be able to 

547
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:32,520
survive these conditions? 
Whereas now that same biological

548
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:39,240
reflex is occurring, but it's 
occurring every day because 

549
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,800
someone said something mean to 
you in the Instagram comment or 

550
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,720
you saw something in your news 
feed that makes you feel like, 

551
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Oh no, like World War three's 
about to start. 

552
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,440
We just exposed all these things
that put us into this fight or 

553
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,320
flight state that is so 
disconnected from a real 

554
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,400
visceral threat. 
Does that make sense? 

555
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Yeah, totally. 
Do you have like any, you know, 

556
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
like hard rules for yourself as 
far as you know, not consuming 

557
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,800
certain types of content or 
mediums or just things to remove

558
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360
that negativity from your life 
altogether? 

559
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,200
Definitely, yeah. 
And in my book, I have this, the

560
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
second part of the book's a 
playbook and playbook for the 

561
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840
coaching I give everyone. 
And one of the steps in that 

562
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,000
playbook is just to detoxify 
your life. 

563
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,360
So it's just going through the 
state of awareness because a lot

564
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,560
of times you don't know what is 
actually driving your emotional 

565
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,720
suffering or your lack of focus 
or lack of clarity. 

566
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,560
So you have to really sit into 
awareness. 

567
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,000
So what I have people do is set 
alarms on their phone every few 

568
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280
hours just to check in with them
just to see, hey, how you 

569
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,000
feeling? 
How does it feel to be you and 

570
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,880
what are you focused on? 
You do that for one week, you're

571
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,000
going to notice what your 
triggers are. 

572
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320
You're going to notice. 
Oh, you know what, like, like I 

573
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,800
say, you know, a lot of people, 
their anxiety just comes from 

574
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,480
consuming too much caffeine and,
and I definitely experience that

575
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,200
sometimes as well. 
So if you're, you might just 

576
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,040
notice, you know what, my alarm 
went off at three PMI just had 

577
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,240
my second coffee and I'm feeling
super anxious. 

578
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,320
I'm focused on, I don't have 
enough time to get my work done,

579
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,680
but it might have been from just
too much simulation, right? 

580
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Or you might notice that you're 
feeling really sad. 

581
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720
And so why am I feeling sad? 
Oh, because I was just focusing 

582
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,720
on something in my news feed 
about, you know, a genocide 

583
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,920
happening somewhere in the 
world. 

584
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880
And so I'm just sitting here in 
sadness. 

585
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,320
And so just noticing what 
environments, what inputs you're

586
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520
putting in, how they're 
affecting the way you feel like 

587
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560
that's kind of the low hanging 
fruit that anyone can do very 

588
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600
easily before you even start 
doing your reprogramming work. 

589
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,440
It's like, stop feeding yourself
garbage in your in your diet. 

590
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,320
You know, not even we're not 
talking about food. 

591
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,720
It's like mental garbage. 
It's like things that make you 

592
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,400
feel bad. 
Like why? 

593
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Why is it advantageous to focus 
on that? 

594
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Just clear it out, stop doing 
it, remove it from your life. 

595
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Yeah, no, totally in work with 
the people that you have, 

596
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,560
they're like common denominators
that most people tend to share 

597
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840
that you can just pretty much 
remove right off the get and go 

598
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080
as low hanging fruit. 
Even for my professional 

599
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,600
athletes, I tell them that they 
really shouldn't be on social 

600
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,280
media 'cause their contracts are
so big that any marketing dealer

601
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,520
they're going to get through 
social media is really minimal. 

602
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,000
Like they can just do their job.
It's such a luxury. 

603
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Just do your job Well, you're 
never going to have to worry 

604
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,560
about money again. 
So I try to tell them just you 

605
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,520
don't need this, You know, 
there's really not much here for

606
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,720
you. 
It's just a distraction. 

607
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Other people, the average 
person, I think the big thing is

608
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,440
identifying the relationships in
your life and which ones are 

609
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,720
filling your cup and which ones 
are draining them and being OK 

610
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,840
with moving some relationships 
to a maintenance mode. 

611
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,600
Meaning like if the relationship
is really toxic for you, but you

612
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,120
want to keep these people in 
your life like they're a 

613
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160
maintenance relationship, Maybe 
you're checking in with them 

614
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040
here and there, but they're not 
people that you're exposing 

615
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,040
yourself to consistently. 
And then the people who are 

616
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480
putting you into a more inspired
state or making you feel 

617
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280
energized and feeling good, you 
know, put them in your life more

618
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,640
and put yourself in those 
situations, those environments. 

619
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,160
So the first step is really that
awareness, right? 

620
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,080
Because this is universal. 
I can't, I can't tell anyone 

621
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,400
like what's going to be best for
them. 

622
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Different people have different 
preferences, but if the 

623
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760
individual does these, it's 
going to be really blatantly 

624
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,680
obvious, like what actions, what
environments, what people are 

625
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,200
serving them and which ones are 
not. 

626
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,600
And then you just have the 
decision to make like do you 

627
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,400
want to take that next step or 
not and and do something about 

628
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
it. 
Yeah, no, totally, man. 

629
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,080
What about the as far as like 
just routines on the front end 

630
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
and the back end of the day? 
I feel like that, for me at 

631
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200
least, is pretty profound. 
If I start the day off right and

632
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,520
end the day right, then the 
whole day in between seems to go

633
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,200
much smoother. 
Do you have anything that you 

634
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,880
employ on your own personal self
that has had a profound impact 

635
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160
on you? 
Yeah. 

636
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
I mean, going to sleep early, I 
think that's the the biggest one

637
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,880
is making sure that not staying 
up late and I'm going to sleep 

638
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320
as early as I can. 
And if I do that, then I don't 

639
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,280
have to worry about setting as I
don't have to worry about the 

640
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,320
next morning because if I go to 
sleep earlier enough, I'm going 

641
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,040
to be well rested. 
So that's the number one. 

642
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:42,040
It's just good sleep hygiene. 
Going to sleep at an early time 

643
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,680
as early as I can. 
That's a big one. 

644
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,520
The mornings, I think getting 
sunlight to start the day and I 

645
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,040
like to go outside and put my 
feet in the grass and just like 

646
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,760
be exposed to the sunlight, set 
that circadian rhythm. 

647
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,200
That's a huge one. 
So those are kind of things in 

648
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,840
the morning for me in the 
evening. 

649
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,720
The thing about the work I do 
is, you know, I train my 

650
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,320
clients. 
I have trained myself to become 

651
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,639
meditation. 
So a lot of people need to 

652
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,520
meditate and I think 
meditation's a great tool, but 

653
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,920
really my goal with my clients 
and my goal for myself is always

654
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,360
to become meditation. 
So I used to always meditate to 

655
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,320
start the day, but now I am 
meditation. 

656
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,080
I live in and mostly in present,
so I don't need that always to 

657
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,280
anger me. 
Instead, I go to meditation, 

658
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,880
more so prescriptively. 
So if there's something that I 

659
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,120
need to move through 
emotionally, then I'll put 

660
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,080
myself into meditation and I'll 
do that work on myself, but I 

661
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920
don't necessarily need it to 
start the day. 

662
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,600
Yeah, no, that makes sense, man.
What about Stoicism? 

663
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Have you dove into that much? 
I'm aware of it. 

664
00:34:52,679 --> 00:35:01,000
I mean, I don't not a big 
follower of Stoicism. 

665
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040
It's not like I think there's 
probably a lot of good values 

666
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,160
that come from them, but it's 
not something that I use as like

667
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,680
a guiding philosophy for my 
life. 

668
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,640
Yeah, that makes sense. 
That makes sense. 

669
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,760
Well, what about you kids, man? 
Like you've got a three and a 

670
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,360
one year old. 
I've got a 2 year old just 

671
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,320
turned 2. 
And, and knowing what you know 

672
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,320
now and kind of working with the
high performers that you have 

673
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,640
and seeing what, what causes 
people's stress duress, anxiety,

674
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,520
like how is that shaped how you 
interact with them from a 

675
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,000
parenting standpoint so that 
they hopefully don't aren't 

676
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,760
plagued with that same type of 
anxiety. 

677
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,800
And just like the interactions 
like that y'all have, What are 

678
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,160
you trying to bring into that 
from a parenting standpoint? 

679
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:47,160
I'm curious. 
Yeah, first and foremost, you 

680
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,760
know, kids don't do what we say.
They just model who we are. 

681
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,080
So it's always just being aware 
of of myself. 

682
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,880
Like I want to bring a high 
frequency, good emotional energy

683
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,320
and just not be reactive, just 
be present for my kids because 

684
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,640
that is literally the 
programming I'm sharing with 

685
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,760
them because kids get programmed
mostly between zero and seven 

686
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,240
years old. 
Like those are the primary 

687
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,920
programming years. 
So from zero to seven, it's the 

688
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,720
absolute most important time to 
protect and feed them with the 

689
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:25,000
right inputs. 
And so you know, the number one 

690
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,640
way to do that is who you are 
and, and how you are with them. 

691
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,240
So for me, the biggest thing is 
continue to do my own work. 

692
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:37,320
So I'm not reactive like, and 
I'm very happy to say that I can

693
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,320
do that. 
Like my kids don't trigger me. 

694
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Like they, they could say or do 
whatever they want. 

695
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,080
Like I'm a whole person. 
So, you know, my kid calls me a 

696
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,800
name or, or whatever. 
Like I'm not, there's no wound 

697
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,880
there that they can, they can 
hurt, you know, that's going to 

698
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,440
make me react a certain way. 
Or if they act super crazy for 

699
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,120
me, it's just a matter of fact. 
It's like, OK, well, let's not 

700
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,840
do that. 
And I'll enforce whatever 

701
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,840
discipline needs to be enforced 
in that moment, but it's not a 

702
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,040
emotional thing for me. 
So that's a big thing. 

703
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,240
Just doing the work on yourself 
so you don't have to try to be 

704
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,080
stoic like you are. 
It's just who you are. 

705
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,080
You just approach life from a 
present matter of fact conscious

706
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,760
way. 
That's huge. 

707
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,520
And and that way you can create 
the space for your children for 

708
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160
them to fully express themselves
and feeling safe in that. 

709
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,840
I think that's huge. 
Think so many of us in a young 

710
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,680
age, we start to self suppress 
who we really are and how we 

711
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,120
want to be in the world because 
whether you know, it makes a, a,

712
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,240
a parent feel uncomfortable and 
they want to kind of be like, 

713
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,320
hey, quiet, not so much, be 
less. 

714
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,840
You're too much. 
So I try to allow my kids to be 

715
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,960
as much of who they are and not 
suppress any of it and just 

716
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,120
fully allow it to unfold. 
And of course there's boundaries

717
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,920
and there's discipline there to 
make sure that they're safe and 

718
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,280
they can fit into whatever 
setting that we're in. 

719
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,400
But in general, just letting 
them express and explore 

720
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160
themselves in a way without 
making them wrong. 

721
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,520
Yeah, I think you're not being 
reactionary in a negative sense.

722
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Is is key to, I feel like so 
many kids, they have bad 

723
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,760
memories and they're upbringing,
you know, spawned from an 

724
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,760
overreacted parent. 
And I feel like if the parent 

725
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,480
can just simply explain why they
feel a certain way as a result 

726
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,720
of their action, and the kid can
comprehend that, that would be 

727
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,760
monumental. 
Yeah, and especially at the age 

728
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640
that our kids are at, because, 
you know, they don't really 

729
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,320
appeal to the rational mind yet.
So like, if you're being 

730
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,760
irrational, like that's the most
irrational thing you possibly do

731
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960
because this human is not like, 
you know, they're not. 

732
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,680
You can't reason with them. 
You just have to hold. 

733
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,880
You have to sit in attention to 
hold the space of these are the 

734
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,160
boundaries. 
This is what's OK. 

735
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,640
This is what's not OK. 
And I'm not going to try to 

736
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,960
convince you of something 
through my emotion or my 

737
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,480
rationality. 
I'm just going to hold the 

738
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,920
presence of These are the 
boundaries, stay within them. 

739
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Yeah, no, 100%, man. 
It's, it's pretty rewarding. 

740
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,840
Like it makes you having kids, 
at least for me, forces you to 

741
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,720
be more present because like you
just, I don't know, you have a 

742
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,520
deeper understanding and 
appreciation for how finite time

743
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,160
really is. 
And as you see them grow older, 

744
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,800
like, you just recognize that 
you're missing out if you aren't

745
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,240
present in those moments. 100%, 
yeah. 

746
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:35,760
It's a blessing, isn't it? 
Just grounding and really forces

747
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,200
you, like you said, into the 
present. 

748
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,400
And some of it, I guess actually
you asked about like, I think we

749
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,200
talked about fear. 
The only play other place is 

750
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,960
like, yeah, like my oldest, 
she's a wild kid. 

751
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,600
So like she'll do things that 
could be really physically 

752
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,720
unsafe for her. 
And so sometimes I think that's 

753
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,640
another place where fear, fear 
will come up, right? 

754
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Like she'll go up to the top of 
the monkey bars if you let her 

755
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,840
and maybe jump off in a way that
could break her arm. 

756
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,480
It's like, let's not do that, 
you know, That could be fearful 

757
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,680
for for me as a parent because I
wanna protect her. 

758
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,160
No, totally man, totally. 
That's that's the thing. 

759
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,400
As parents you just like you're 
you're called to protect and 

760
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200
like the the fear and anxiety is
not your own so much it is those

761
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,280
that you care and protect for. 
Yeah, no doubt. 

762
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,960
You mentioned plant medicine at 
your potential retreat in the 

763
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,440
future. 
What? 

764
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,240
What is what is that until 
exactly this is a I've had a few

765
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:30,120
people on the podcast that have 
dove into that topic and it's 

766
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040
interesting. 
There seems to be like multiple 

767
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,800
points of view as to, you know, 
using that as a therapy for 

768
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,480
recognizing one's current state 
of mental affairs, how to 

769
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,280
breakthrough that, reprogramming
things. 

770
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Just curious to get your 
thought, your thoughts on it 

771
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,480
all. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

772
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,040
I think that there's so many out
there and if you're meant to do 

773
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,240
one, it's gonna call to you. 
It's gonna show up in your life 

774
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:56,000
in a really organic way where 
you're gonna be like, yeah, I 

775
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
think this is right for me. 
It's not gonna be anything that 

776
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,160
feels forced. 
Like, it may sound funny, but 

777
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:07,000
these plants all have spirits. 
So they're spiritual beings, if 

778
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,760
you will, connected to them. 
And so they're calling you in. 

779
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,480
And if you're supposed to do 
them, you're gonna hear the 

780
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,480
call. 
And so for me, my favorite one 

781
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:22,080
right now, it's called Acacia. 
And it's from, if you, if 

782
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,240
anyone's read the Bible, the the
burning Bush, you know, Moses 

783
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:29,040
was tripping out on Acacia. 
That's the burning Bush that has

784
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,280
DMT in it. 
And so Acacia gives you an 

785
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,960
experience of transcending your 
normal conscious ways of 

786
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,000
thinking by yourself and allows 
you to just take a microscope 

787
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,840
right to the area of your life 
that you need to deal with in a 

788
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,200
real visceral way. 
And it's very kind. 

789
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,120
It's a, it's a sweet, it's a 
gentle plant. 

790
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,480
I think it's going to be one 
that is getting a lot more 

791
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,400
recognition in the in the world 
in, in the coming years because 

792
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,720
there's ones out there right now
that, you know, I'm not going to

793
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,720
talk bad about one plant 
medicine versus another, but 

794
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:08,480
there's just a lot more 
suffering involved with some 

795
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,440
versus other ones. 
This seems to me to be the most 

796
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,840
intelligent plant medicine that 
I've come across where it it's 

797
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,600
calling in a lot of high 
achievers. 

798
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,800
People have done a lot of work 
on themselves already. 

799
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
And you don't have to come and 
just suffer a bunch. 

800
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,880
Instead, you can have an 
experience with this plant 

801
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,840
medicines four or five hours 
where it's you can ask her a 

802
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,200
question. 
You'd be like, Hey, help me deal

803
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,440
with this. 
I want clarity around this. 

804
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,560
I'm dealing with this emotional 
issue. 

805
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,040
I want to move through it. 
And it's just like the you will.

806
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,720
It's like the most wise coach, 
therapist, practitioner you 

807
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:47,600
could ever work with because it 
has interdimensional wisdom to 

808
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560
pull from. 
And so a lot of these things, 

809
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,600
when you start to have these 
conversational podcasts that 

810
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,320
like transcends a rational mind,
who, you know, someone who's 

811
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,040
never had experience, it'll say 
interdimensional. 

812
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,800
What are you talking about? 
But yeah, I mean, the fact of 

813
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,600
the matter is like, there's not 
just one dimension. 

814
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040
You know, you can move through 
our, you know, world that we 

815
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,880
live in here and you can go to 
other spaces and there's other 

816
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,560
beings that live there and you 
can get wisdom from them and, 

817
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,520
and bring it back and apply it 
to your own life in actual ways.

818
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Do you feel like there's a, a 
downside to seeking exogenous 

819
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,080
aid in doing that deep work or 
is it something that we should 

820
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,480
be able to do, you know, solely 
internally? 

821
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,760
I think that probably anything 
has potential for abuse, right? 

822
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:39,200
But these are things that you 
don't really feel like doing 

823
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,000
compulsively if you're really 
listening to the call, the ones 

824
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,720
that are calling you forward, 
like there's going to be growth 

825
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,520
there on the other side of them.
But I would say definitely find 

826
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,000
a practitioner that has a lot of
experience and can can be a good

827
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680
guide on your journey. 
Because, yeah, if you go to 

828
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,920
someone who's inexperienced with
whatever plant medicine that 

829
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,160
you're getting into and they're 
not holding a good place, they 

830
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,360
don't have the right set and 
setting for you, it could go 

831
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,720
down the wrong path. 
And so just building a lot of 

832
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,440
trust with the practitioner and 
the setting you're going to be 

833
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,960
in and a lot of high levels of 
safety, and I think you'll be 

834
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,760
all right. 
But, you know, like anything, 

835
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,000
there's, there's a small degree 
of risk because you're entering 

836
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,720
into the unknown. 
And so if you have, yeah, if 

837
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:33,880
you're bringing a lot of fear 
into that experience, then 

838
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,880
you're going to have to move 
through that fear. 

839
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,840
And that might not be 
comfortable, but ultimately it 

840
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,720
probably will be best for you. 
So I can't answer your. 

841
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,400
Question. 
Now that makes sense. 

842
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,840
That makes sense, man. 
Well, apart from the the retreat

843
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,920
in Columbia, what else has got 
you excited, man? 

844
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,160
You got another book coming out?
When? 

845
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,320
When did this one go live? 
This one came out back in 

846
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,720
October, but I had a little 
hiccup. 

847
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:59,320
It got taken down off Amazon for
a month or so. 

848
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,120
So we're kind of building 
momentum back up around it once 

849
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,360
again. 
That was kind of cut off. 

850
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,600
But yeah, this is the main 
intention because I'm very 

851
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,320
blessed now to get to work with 
some really cool people at the 

852
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,600
one-on-one level. 
But a passion of mine is to get 

853
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,000
this out to more people because 
it's just knowledge should be in

854
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,840
the hands of everyone. 
I just want everyone to 

855
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,400
understand that if you feel like
you're stuck, like you keep 

856
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,120
running up into this invisible 
wall or invisible ceiling, there

857
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,360
is a reason. 
Like it's not random. 

858
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,680
This universe is truly divine to
where everything has a purpose. 

859
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,400
And so if there is a blockage 
there, it was formed out of 

860
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,560
survival. 
It was formed for your best 

861
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,840
interests, as hard as that is 
for someone to hear. 

862
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:48,920
Because let's take an example of
someone who believes, someone 

863
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,560
who really wants to be in an an 
amazing romantic relationship. 

864
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,120
But right now they believe that 
all men or all women are 

865
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640
cheaters. 
Like, you may think to yourself 

866
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,240
like, well, that's a terrible 
thing to believe to be true, and

867
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,280
they're going to make that true 
as long as they believe to be 

868
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,240
true. 
But that's a defense mechanism 

869
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,920
that came from this person. 
Probably. 

870
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,120
Maybe they saw their mom or dad 
was a cheater and then when they

871
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,720
were a teenager, they were 
cheated on. 

872
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,520
And then in their early 20s, 
they were cheated on. 

873
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,120
So it's just a defense mechanism
that's there to make sure they 

874
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,720
don't get cheated on again. 
And So what people have to 

875
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,280
understand is that if you keep 
running into this invisible wall

876
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,320
and you're having this 
experience of like, I can't lose

877
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,520
weight, I can't get a good 
romantic relationship. 

878
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,800
I can't make the money I want to
make. 

879
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,560
I can't get ahead of my career. 
I can't have Peace of Mind. 

880
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,680
There is just a, there are just 
pieces of code that take the 

881
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,320
form of beliefs that are 
blocking you from seeing the 

882
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,320
path forward. 
Because what our beliefs do is 

883
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200
they delete, they distort or 
they generalize all the 

884
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,760
information that comes in, 
right? 

885
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,600
We see here, smell, taste and 
touch the world around us. 

886
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,560
And then it runs down through 
our programming. 

887
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,640
And our programming is in the 
form of beliefs. 

888
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,360
So these beliefs are filtering 
all the information. 

889
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,760
So you may have all these 
possibilities that you could 

890
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,520
explore and go down, but your 
subconscious is just deleting 

891
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,280
all these possibilities for you 
because of beliefs you're 

892
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600
holding. 
So I really want people to grasp

893
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,240
this concept and just start to 
go down that path of uncovering 

894
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:17,200
like, OK, I have been blocked. 
I've seen this pattern. 

895
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,320
I'm on this hamster wheel of not
getting where I want to go. 

896
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,960
Let me go deeper. 
Let me go beneath the conscious 

897
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,640
surface and actually uncover 
what's lying beneath the 

898
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
surface. 
And what is that program that's 

899
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,360
blocking me and let me remove it
so I can flow forward and 

900
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,960
ultimately get to a place of 
peace and flow in the present 

901
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,680
moment. 
And so that's the main thing I'm

902
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,120
doing here. 
I kind of get the book out to 

903
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,720
people so they have these tools 
and also let people know that I 

904
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,720
exist. 
A lot of people find it hard to 

905
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:52,800
to fathom what I say can do for 
them and I want people to know 

906
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,160
that I can help them with this 
type of thing. 

907
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,480
They feel blocked as well. 
Like I'm a practitioner that has

908
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,760
a lot of experience, a lot of 
case studies. 

909
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,800
You can go over my Instagram, 
you can see all the case studies

910
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,200
I have on there. 
People who have moved through 

911
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,600
all types of things in their 
life. 

912
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,680
It is possible. 
You just got to do the work. 

913
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,400
No, I love it, man. 
I love it. 

914
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,880
And what's the name of the book?
It's called Program to fail. 

915
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Program to fail. 
You got it on Audible as well. 

916
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,200
I do, Yep, it's on audible. 
It's on Kindle paperback but you

917
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,040
can get it on Amazon. 
It's the main place. 

918
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200
And were you the the person 
reading it on Audible? 

919
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:32,000
I was, yeah, nice, nice working 
myself. 

920
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Well I will I will get me a copy
man. 

921
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,120
I I listen to audiobooks from 
training so I will listen to 

922
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,480
that as my next audiobook while 
training brother. 

923
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,400
Fantastic, bro. 
I think you'll enjoy it. 

924
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,520
I think I'm very vulnerable in 
the stories that I go through, I

925
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,120
tell. 
I talk about some of my darkest 

926
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,160
moments and so I can give people
an idea of, yeah, where does the

927
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,200
program come from? 
Well, here are these different 

928
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,960
things. 
I lived. 

929
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,040
This is the program that came 
from it and this is a result of 

930
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,600
those programming. 
And this is what happens when I 

931
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,240
change the programming. 
So they can kind of see that 

932
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,840
road map because that's Part 2 
and part sorry, that's part one 

933
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640
of the book. 
And in Part 2 it's like, OK, now

934
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,520
we got the buy in. 
You hear all my case studies. 

935
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,520
You hear my story. 
Do the playbook. 

936
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,440
That's good. 
And I think being vulnerable, 

937
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,000
being honest and transparent is 
the only way to be in life, man.

938
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,880
Like talking about fear and 
anxiety. 

939
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,040
Like I've got things that make 
me anxious, things that 

940
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,920
frustrate me, things that piss 
me off for sure. 

941
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,000
But I don't have to to look over
my shoulder now. 

942
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,440
Like I don't have fear of that 
because I've been totally honest

943
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,400
and transparent with everything.
So I appreciate others that do 

944
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,520
the same. 
Yeah, absolutely bro. 

945
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,320
Living in the truth, that's what
it's all about. 100% man. 

946
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,080
Every, every lie was born out of
fear. 

947
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,080
So if we live in the truth, you 
know, we know that at least 

948
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,480
we're free from fear on a daily 
basis in regards to our 

949
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,320
integrity and and who we are and
how we're showing up in the 

950
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,640
world. 
Yeah, and that is truly a 

951
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,720
priceless thing right there. 
Like you cannot integrity. 

952
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,720
I mean, you don't ever want to 
sacrifice that, man. 

953
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,280
You've only got it once. 
Yeah, that clear conscious 

954
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,720
feels. 
Feels really good. 

955
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,840
Feels really good. 
I love it. 

956
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,240
Well, I will definitely link out
to the book. 

957
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,840
Like I said, I will get a copy 
that'll literally, literally be 

958
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,520
what I listen to this week as 
I'm training. 

959
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,000
So I will listen to it on 
Audible and I'll link out to it 

960
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,880
on Amazon so people can find it.
And what what's your social 

961
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000
profiles? 
People can find me on Instagram 

962
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,520
Brandon Epstein under score. 
You can also search for me on 

963
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,040
YouTube, Brandon Epstein. 
I've got a ton of recorded 

964
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,880
meditations on there. 
They're kind of like coaching 

965
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,320
sessions, like a little bit of 
like what we did here today, but

966
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,880
apply directly to everything. 
I help people fall asleep, I 

967
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,040
help people stress, anxiety, you
name it. 

968
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,160
I got meditation for just about 
everything you could think of on

969
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,760
there. 
So those are all free resources.

970
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,080
And then if anyone wants to work
with me personally, they can 

971
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,280
apply on my website, 
thebrandonepstein.com. 

972
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,080
Awesome. 
And we'll link out to all those.

973
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,560
We'll check out the the guided 
meditations as well. 

974
00:50:57,720 --> 00:50:59,600
Do you still have the the 
meditation app too? 

975
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,520
I don't anymore, honestly, I 
just didn't renew it and 

976
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,240
republish it just because I 
literally put every meditation 

977
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,560
on YouTube. 
So I'm like, let me just keep 

978
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,080
all the resources free. 
And yeah, you don't even need 

979
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,960
the app. 
It's all free on YouTube, so 

980
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,640
there's no ads on it or 
anything. 

981
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,960
It's just the easier way to get 
to the people. 

982
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:22,600
Totally appreciate that. 
Well, I'll check out those for 

983
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,120
sure, man. 
I, I really appreciate the time.

984
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,800
Brandon appreciates you being 
vulnerable and just talking 

985
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,480
about the truth, man. 
So if there's everything I can 

986
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,680
do for you, man, you just let me
know. 

987
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Thank you, Robert. 
I appreciate you brother. 

988
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,160
Appreciate you man, take care. 
Bye bye.