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Well, hello, ladies and gents 
Robert Sykes kill Savage.com. 

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And today I've got special guest
Roy blinking on the line, he is 

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doing some awesome things. 
We've been corresponding via 

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email for quite some time. 
He is a type 1 diabetic. 

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He used to be an alcoholic. 
Actually got into this. 

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He is still an alcoholic but he 
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drink. 
So interesting concept. 

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There we talked deep about 
mindset. 

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Yeah, we dive deep into it here.
I honestly thought in the 

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beginning of this conversation, 
we were going to dive into 

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primarily. 
Is competition prep and ever. 

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See to prep here recently via a 
keto genic diet. 

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He is currently in the process 
of building out, this massive 

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Retreat, all centered around 
health and wellness and he just 

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doing some awesome, awesome 
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I was excited to get him on the 
podcast, pick his brain, about 

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his prep, pick his brain, about 
his Retreat, that he's building 

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out. 
And then lo and behold it went 

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down a rabbit hole of mindset 
and just how to have the right 

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mentality through the day-to-day
and I thoroughly enjoyed the 

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conversation. 
I've got no doubt that you will 

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take something from this. 
So that further Ado, sit back 

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relax and Joe podcast with Roy 
blinking 

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And we are live. 
Roy, how are you brother very 

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well. 
Nice, good. 

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I shouldn't be here. 
Pleasure to have you, man. 

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We we've been corresponding via 
email. 

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I think you reached out to me, 
initially, I don't know. 

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I'm just go back to the email 
you. 

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I feel like the first time we 
call responded, you sent me an 

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e-mail, June 29th of last 
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think that I'm probably about, 
right? 

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It was a midwife Through my comp
prep for the Queensland state. 

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Champs for natural bodybuilding.
Yeah. 

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So you sent me some pictures, 
you're looking absolutely. 

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Shredded. 
You're doing a carnivore 

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approach type 1 diabetic. 
So you're doing everything that 

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they say can't be done. 
And I like it. 

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When people do that, man, like I
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like people that are doing 
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physically, I just like people 
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hustling and doing things that 
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shade at and seeing success with
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So I wanted to just bring it on 
the podcast. 

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I'm into your prep a little bit,
but then also everything that 

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you've got cooking now with your
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tackle that in whatever order 
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But I'd love to certainly flesh 
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honestly what got you into like 
keto carnivore, low carb in the 

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first place man I'm assuming the
type 1 diabetes probably had a 

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pretty profound impact on them. 
Yeah absolutely. ironically, and

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this is is Not common and this 
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Finally, check the box for me on
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Keto. 
And that's an odd one for a 

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endocrinologist. 
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focused on and promoting sort of
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the Paradigm and she did her PhD
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On type 1 diabetics and I was a 
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at the time, that added a 
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as Which was pretty awesome. 
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Canada myself in low cab. 
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was building up to an event that
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country mountain bike event that
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So it was unassisted and we 
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her food and everything else on 
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touring the case across 
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that was the first big event. 
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Without being primarily loaded 
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So close to 300 case and three 
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on around, 40 grams of carbs a 
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everybody else probably 
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carbohydrates no training. 
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standard standard approach to. 
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diet, so sad, diarrhea lie. 
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saying if I could do it with 
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bit sort of red rag to a bull. 
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and can't do with condition and 
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you can't do that. 
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the standard understanding of 
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and having worked with multiple 
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probably say that the majority 
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assumes that if you're diabetic 
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which is kind of interesting. 
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It's and there's an irony to 
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Obviously, slightly different as
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two guests, generically known as
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much eliminate type 2. 
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in type 1, diabetes over the 
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Paradigm that will be living by 
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logic to me that, that then 
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side of things and leave 
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towards the primary focus of 
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inflammatory. 
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things like your standard ones, 
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majority of those in clients 
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much removed The high proportion
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food even more. 
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low-carb, removing the high 
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from the nutrition panel has, 
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life when it come down. 
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processed foods, what is the 
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they're seeing benefit from, is 
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carbohydrates in the 
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Foods at the removal of them, 
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in the high processed foods. 
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the higher calories that often 
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High priced, High processed 
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the totem pole? 
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carrying the most weight? 
I think it's a combination of 

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all of them. 
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it's the primary removal of the 
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an inflammatory. 
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with the vegetable oils and me. 
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and aches, and pains and joints,
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the combination of the three is 
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it? 
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And you started doing low-carb, 
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Did I hear that, right? 
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And I'll be coming up seven 
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nearly the anniversary of that, 
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bicentennial Trail over here is 
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majority of the strata of a 
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independently or do events 
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cover, anything up to 1000 km in
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So that I sent a report through,
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The endocrinologist after during
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I'm currently eating at the 
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Mmm. 
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without coffee and macadamias 
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pretty sure that's why I could 
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coffee. 
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Yeah, there's a, that's a whole 
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Like, people are really like, 
the people that are really 

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strict carnivore that won't 
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Yeah, I'm definitely not playing
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Like I'm definitely getting in 
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Yeah, I'm not sure I could trust
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Something's wrong with them, 
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Got off track. 
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made a pretty significant shift 
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events to bodybuilding man, like
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know, leaning out for a 
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Like, what, what was the 
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That was that started in my 20s.
So I guess if you, I guess the 

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understand that needs. 
To understand me a bit more. 

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So I'm a liberal. 
I'm six foot. 

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I like long walks on the beach 
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Bodybuilding. 
I'm a health coach, we run our 

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own business on a small 
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to recently. 
And on the other side of that 

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coin, I'm a type 1 diabetic with
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depression and an artificial 
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So in my 20s was the first time 
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21 was the first time that I 
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I knew that I had addictive 
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16 I was 20 years old when I had
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And in that 12 months, I started
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certified. 
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bodybuilding couple. 
We were you as far as your 

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diabetes goes, did that wasn't 
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Then you weren't that make that.
Okay, so when did that come into

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So I gave up drinking 16, 17 
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Sixteen years ago, I turned 
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pretty brutal wake-up call for 
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whole life up to that point not 
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being a diabetic like that's 
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really a wake-up call because at
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structure of my life. 
I went into rehab for three 

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or right and knew that I was at 
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So I've turned left into the 
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crawling back under the rock, 
which is a bonus for me. 

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I think, and hit that sort of 12
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pretty brutal, because the 
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a lot of people around the 12 
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anniversary. 
Ergo, guess you can get Hamid. 

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And about 14 months. 
I was training for an ultra 

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endurance, kayak race for the 
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every night. 
And I started losing, but load a

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And I ended up losing about 10 
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It's quite a bit here and one 
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Sorry, that's quite a bit of 
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Quite a bit away shredded that. 

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Yeah. 
And went to the doctor. 

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Took a blood test an hour later 
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Send it for two weeks and came 
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So it was almost like another 
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So I had the choice to say poor 
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Luckily, I guess for me, I'd 
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of Understanding Nutrition. 
Calories, carbohydrates, 

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protein. 
So just went, well, it's just 

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another step, get on with it. 
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and didn't bother stopping. 
And I said, I feel like a lot of

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people especially over these 
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know, everything that's been 
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A lot of people they just have 
that poor me mentality and when 

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it comes to physical ailments 
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really easy to convince yourself
that you're just, you got the 

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Short Straw, this happened to 
you, you know, poor poor me, let

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me just No, wallow around in the
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man. 
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physical ailments, you know, 
they lose a limb, they have 

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cancer, develop type 1, diabetes
late, onset in life, it's like 

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for for you to be able to get 
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And then just keep keep tacking 
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just Zeal for life. 
That that to me is impressive 

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that carries a lot of weight. 
I'll look it up. 

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I've got to agree with you. 
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easy for me to say, because I 
did it. 

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But from my perspective, it's 
just life. 

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Yeah. he, you get up and you get
all all you sit down and you 

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don't Yeah I think I don't know,
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I've actually been thinking 
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Everybody's the grass always 
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like it especially with social 
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Like it's very easy to look at 
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that you admire real. 
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just assume that, oh man, if I 
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good. 
I play straight up that most 

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people don't want my life. 
If they knew a lot about my life

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and the same is true. 
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You the same is true with 
probably all of us. 

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There's a lot behind the scenes 
that does no good to like, you 

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know, point that out and 
showcase it, because you don't 

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want to have this, you know, 
what was me mentality, but the 

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same time, you know, there's a 
lot behind everybody's curtain 

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and there's just no good that 
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mentality. 
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placed under extreme pressure 
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of just goes back to everything.
I'm selling the podcast in 

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previous episodes about stoicism
and you know, Given yourself 

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adversity to grow from and 
strengthen your resolve with, 

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but you that's the only 
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approach it because anything 
other than that is just negative

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energy and what is the, what is 
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Good that comes from that. 
Oh, god, I've got a gray head 

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and look the Catch-22 to any 
given situation in life as I've 

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got a lot of clients who say to 
me and you've probably had it 

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yourself. 
It's easy for you to say. 

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Yeah. 
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in that moment. 
About non judgement. 

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And we always think of judgment 
as being an A- Focus. 

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You know, you judging me or your
chanting this or judging that? 

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How is saying something, like 
it's easy for you to say, not 

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the exact same judgment. 
Yeah, it is. 

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And when I turn around to the 
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You think this was my life all 
the time? 

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Do you think? 
I don't struggle with this stuff

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every day. 
Still now I call myself a 

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non-practicing alcoholic and 
when people find out that I 

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haven't been in a in an 
addictive situation for over 17 

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years, I say yeah. 
But you're not anymore. 

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I am every day. 
The only difference between an 

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alcoholic and a non-alcoholic or
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whether or not? 
They've got a drink in there. 

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Yeah, you don't you know you 
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to peanuts. 
For 17 years. 

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It's not the coercion no longer 
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because you haven't eaten a 
peanut. 

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Yeah, that's a good point, man. 
Yeah, there is no, you know, I 

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think this is where a lot of 
people get caught up in their 

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own sort of Fear Factor and 
focuses. 

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For me. 
I just decided at that point in 

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time. 
And when I say, I decided it was

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still the processor five years 
of meditation. 

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So why cannot and T is going at 
realizations of things aren't 

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forgotten about. 
My actions over the tiny years 

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prior and going still trying to 
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and there's all good. 
And I think that's the biggest 

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challenge. 
Is that we I decided from that 

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point that I was never. 
That wasn't a part of my life 

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anymore. 
It wasn't. 

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I just do it for a period of 
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And I actually smoked the 20 
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I gave up 13 years ago now and 
it was the same process for that

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when I was ready. 
I remember the day that it 

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happened, I was the first of 
July 2010. 

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So what's that? 
11, 12 years, 13 years. 

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And I remember certainly had a 
smoke in my mouth. 

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The coffee in the hand, looked 
at the cigarette, flicked, it 

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out of the balcony. 
Bad, littering and said, I'm a 

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nonsmoker. 
Yeah. 

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Was it do you feel like you've 
had any of those addictive 

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Tendencies towards food at all 
or or no? 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
Not food compulsion. 

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Not more, not compulsion. 
And I would say I've got to be 

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conscious of an addictive 
compulsive nature. 

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So one of the good things about 

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a sort of an addictive 
compulsive nature as manual, 

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focus assist on a direction or 
are or an event. 

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For example, it's very easy to 
say structured around it. 

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I stir where I struggle is 
without Focus. 

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So if I don't have an event on 
planning for if I don't have an 

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event that I'm doing, I can walk
around scratching my head some 

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the time's going and that 
overflows into both professional

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life and personal life. 
So I find I'm better personally 

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when I'm focused on an event or 
a particular destination. 

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I think it's just me which isn't
very Zen. 

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Yeah. 
I think it's very simple as 

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core. 
That's why weight training is 

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just so beautiful because like 
you can never Master weight 

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training, Same thing about like,
Jiu-Jitsu and martial arts. 

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Like, that's something that you 
can never master. 

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So it's it's something that you 
can daily improve upon. 

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It's always learning. 
Yeah, it's always learning. 

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So, like, even if you don't have
a bodybuilding show or an 

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endurance event, just simply 
putting in the day-to-day work 

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of training and maintaining and 
building upon what you've built 

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up to that point that definitely
gives you a solid foothold in. 

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I think checks that box of 
having something to focus on. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
It's interesting. 

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You said you did see my wife's a
fighter and she took out the 

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Queensland state champs 
recently, which was pretty 

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awesome. 
She for the internationally 

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quite a long time. 
And when she struction focused 

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on an event or fight, it's she's
a very powerful impressive 

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woman. 
And it's really quite beautiful 

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to see the Simplicity of her 
smile and the power of their 

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ability to fight. 
Yeah, I think that is where we 

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roll over from understanding 
that. 

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We are not what we do. 
I think the yeah, not being 

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defined by any one thing, you 
know, I feel like being too 

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complex to categorize is a 
worthwhile endeavor, Yeah, I 

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represent a gray especially that
pigeonhole box you know, because

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we can all put ourselves in the 
paternal box. 

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I used your quote, the other do 
not wasn't your photos, someone 

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else's, but quite often things 
happen at a period of time where

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you are going and you turn on a 
lightbulb moment for yourself. 

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And it was that anxiety is just 
Conspiracy theories about 

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yourself. 
Yeah. 

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And I think anyone is says that 
don't have those moments. 

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As either operating in a 
Perfection level beyond my 

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comprehension or lying to 
themselves. 

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Because, you know, if it wasn't 
for self-doubt, you wouldn't 

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have Direction. 
Yeah, it's like I don't think 

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it's a bad thing to constantly, 
try and prove something to 

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yourself as long as you're able 
to do. 

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So, you know, within the realm 
of healthy relationship, with 

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that Focus, I've taken things 
too unhealthy spot. 

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I'm sure you have as well and 
you just have to be conscious of

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it, but I don't think you get 
conscious of, unless you taken 

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it to an unhealthy spot. 
Previously, that's the thing, 

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like you have to go there to 
know what is and Is not healthy,

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but if you don't ever go there, 
then that self-doubt becomes 

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all-consuming and you it totally
takes the form or takes the 

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place of any confidence that you
can have and it becomes 

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overpowering and that's 
obviously not good either. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
And I sort of coined the phrase 

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the clients a while ago where 
They would sit there will be 

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talk about taxes. 
I'm a cognitive therapy 

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counselor as well. 
That's part of what I do. 

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And and when they sit there and 
say, I know it's not real, I 

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have to try and get them to 
understand that it is And people

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don't quite understand that in 
the first instance and I said, 

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look, if you think it it is 
real. 

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Yeah. 
That doesn't want. 

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What matters is whether or not 
it's true. 

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Yeah. 
And you can think yourself into 

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your own truth, either in a 
positive or negative way. so, 

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you can make that Thing that you
thought that is real Your Truth,

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or you can explore that. 
Change how you think and make 

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that your truth? 
Either way both of them are 

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real. 
Yeah, you're pretty self becomes

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entry. 
Yeah, if you think a thought 

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about yourself, your body 
doesn't know the difference. 

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Your mind doesn't know the 
difference. 

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And who does several podcast 
lately talking about this as it 

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pertains to like public speaking
as an example or you know right 

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before an event like a 
bodybuilding competition or 

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powerlifting meat or whatever 
the case may be. 

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Like if you those those 
sensations of you know anxiety, 

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angst nerves excitement, like 
all of the the biofeedback that 

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your body has given you like the
clammy cold hands. 

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The Jitters, like, all of that 
stuff. 

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Like it's responding that way. 
Whether you are associating that

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sensation with excitement or 
fear and anxiety from a thousand

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less exact same. 
So it's really just a matter of,

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which of those two spectrums. 
Do you want to operate in? 

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I said and that is choice. 
Yeah, I think I think choice is 

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the one thing that we truly own 
and people get once again, 

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sometimes they get upset with 
the concept of that. 

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And but when it comes down to 
The ground-level not liking the 

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outcome of a different Choice, 
doesn't mean that it removes the

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choice. 
So I can't do that. 

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I'll lose my job. 
That doesn't mean you can't do 

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it as do you choose to the 
outcome that you prefer? 

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Over the outcome of losing a 
job. 

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That's doesn't mean it's not a 
choice. 

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On that note, what's the 
scariest thing that you've done 

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as it pertains to stepping away 
from what is comfortable? 

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I'm assuming this purchase of 
land and and what your building 

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right now is from that law, 
that's terraform this tariff and

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released before we go into that,
I'll just Tell you about because

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this relates to probably the 
previous one of the previous, 

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most terrifying things so 
packet. 

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And when I when I first started,
the bodybuilding Journey was 

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back in my 20s. 
I said, if I dealt with it. 

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So I had my first real break 
from alcohol was 12 months 

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training for a competition full 
of Faith, full of self-doubt, 

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even though I had found a 
completely different lease on 

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life without the alcohol. 
And a friend. 

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Trigger warning killed himself 
and when that happened it was 

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okay. 
It was obviously devastating, it

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would be for anyone but I didn't
compete with the rest of my 

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team. 
On the basis of that, excuse. 

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Now, it was both real and an 
excuse. 

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And I spent the next Thirty 
years. 

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I guess what? 
No 20 is justifying that outcome

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based on poor me and tell that 
story many times. 

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And one of the many times I woke
up in tears and meditation post 

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recovery. 
I was with my friend and my 

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head. 
Continually apologizing to him 

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for using him as a scapegoat for
my life. 

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So for probably 30 years, it was
a tick box. 

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That needed to be ticked. 
And Justified for half of that 

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time with the excuse that was 
made. 

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So when it finally came time to 
take that box, It was 30 years 

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in the making essentially. 
Hmm. 

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So from the time of conception 
of understanding that I was 

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going to do this competition to 
the self-doubt, the 

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justification, and the fear that
stop me doing it to the time I 

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go on stage, was close to 30 
years because I was 21 at the 

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time it was 54 when I competed I
feel like a lot of people have 

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instances in their life like 
that in which it would be a very

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understandable and easily 
justifiable reason to not do X 

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and they say that's why. 
But I don't often feel that's 

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ever truly why as not just 
explode, I think the hardest 

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thing for people to say Don't 
want it. 

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Yeah. 
Because I think a grand analogy 

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it is. 
If we say to ourselves, 

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something's too hard, or if we 
say to ourselves that, you know,

453
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:02,900
it's too hard. 
Basically has two meanings. 

454
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,600
Or three minutes. 
One is, I can't do it. 

455
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,200
And that only comes from an 
element of trying to understand 

456
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,500
whether or not you can achieve 
it. 

457
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,900
The other two meanings. 
The two predominant ones I 

458
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,900
believe one is. 
I'm not worth it. 

459
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,300
And the other is, I didn't 
really want it. 

460
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,500
So I think these are the only 
three possible outcomes. 

461
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:37,400
And the two last ones, the 
primary focus of the majority of

462
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
times that people say I can't do
it. 

463
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,800
It's too hard. 
It's either. 

464
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400
I'm not worth it. 
Or. 

465
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,100
I didn't really want it and the 
way that I said I did, Are there

466
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:59,000
things that you've done in life,
in which you have? 

467
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,700
Put in the work and done the 
thing. 

468
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,400
That was looming in front of 
you, saw Success With It. 

469
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:12,900
And then changed course to the 
point where you no longer wanted

470
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,800
to continue down that 
trajectory, but yet have to 

471
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,900
wrestle with the idea of is that
truly the case or are you simply

472
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,200
going back and feeling like 
you're not worth it or it's too 

473
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,300
hard. 
Once again, compulsive. 

474
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,800
Addictive nature. 
I Mountain bike racing. 

475
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:46,700
One year, I did, I tried to tag 
it 12 50 to 100 km races and a 

476
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:51,800
12-month period. and I still 
don't know to this date, whether

477
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,100
I was deliberately trying to 
burn myself out, Or. 

478
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:03,700
I believed it was achievable but
regardless I got to race 10 and 

479
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:08,800
remember. 
Thinking to myself that I 

480
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,600
remembered the start and the 
finish of every single race and 

481
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:21,100
not a second of my time. 
And I stopped doing any sort of 

482
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:26,700
events for probably two years 
because I was really concerned. 

483
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,300
That's not living. 
That's not enjoying. 

484
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,500
That's not experiencing. 
That's not doing anything other 

485
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,400
than compulsion and there was no
real difference between that and

486
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
the other addictive substances 
I've been sucking on. 

487
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,700
Yeah, I'm not sure. 
I'm not sure if that's directly 

488
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:50,000
related to the point that I'm 
Now that makes sense man. 

489
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,600
I feel like I feel like we do a 
lot of things. 

490
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:59,500
For varying different reasons 
but I don't know what brings one

491
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,500
at sense of true. 
Happiness and fulfillment. 

492
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:06,400
I know that that's that's a 
tricky one or maybe I'm 

493
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,500
overthinking it because I look 
at it, I don't think so. 

494
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:12,300
I think I think you bang on the 
money as far as the true 

495
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:15,400
happiness and fulfillment guys. 
I mean you've got your property 

496
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,699
now. 
Let's look at amazing. 

497
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:22,300
You've got that incredible boy. 
Yeah gosh he's moving a lot of 

498
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:22,900
writing. 
Isn't that? 

499
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:29,000
He is he is and I'm sure that 
through your practices and 

500
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:35,600
through a time you found the 
third space And the set 

501
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000
thirdspace, don't miss so much 
time. 

502
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,199
And those races, for example, 
You know, the third space is we,

503
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,100
we sweep where we spend the 
majority of the time between 

504
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,400
where we're going when we were 
things so you get in your car, 

505
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,699
you're going to town. 
Your other constantly thinking 

506
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:55,500
about what you're going to do in
town or the things you did when 

507
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:58,400
you left home. 
And we spend very little time 

508
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:03,300
and the car. 
Yeah, I have known whether that 

509
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,100
we're not experiencing anything 
in that moment. 

510
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:09,200
We're either living in the 
future of the past and not 

511
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,300
living in that sort of moving 
meditation place of experiencing

512
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,500
the life around. 
At that moment, I have not 

513
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:20,100
mastered that except for the 
moments, when I am with my son, 

514
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:23,000
like, when I'm with him, I'm 
very much. 

515
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,100
So in the moment, but it only 
changes doesn't it? 

516
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,400
Yeah, anything outside that. 
I am very, very guilty. 

517
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,200
T of past or future, not 
present. 

518
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,400
Yeah. 
It's a crazy thing and we and 

519
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,600
and when you think about, when 
you get to the place that you're

520
00:35:39,607 --> 00:35:43,300
going, and you've been thinking 
about doing the thing, when you 

521
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:47,900
get there, if you're stuck where
you left your not actually 

522
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:51,500
present, there is that. 
Yeah, you know, you leave an 

523
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:54,000
argument somewhere else and 
drive to the place you need to 

524
00:35:54,008 --> 00:35:56,500
be going to with the argument. 
You had in your head, you get 

525
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,000
there and you're still not in 
the place you're at because 

526
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,700
you're still in. 
Argument X previously know 

527
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:06,400
you're absolutely right man. 
Whenever I do a competition, I 

528
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,600
make it a point to be the last 
one out of the, you know, the 

529
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,500
changing room. 
The backstage sections that I 

530
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:18,200
can just simply meditate there 
in solitude for even just 10 

531
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,600
minutes man. 
But like those like that moment 

532
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,400
that that 10-minute moment is 
literally what I work, six 

533
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,300
months in preparation for like 
not. 

534
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:33,500
At the moment on the stage, not 
the moment, you know, with the 

535
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:37,800
trophies, not any of that stuff.
It's just that that moment after

536
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,800
when it's all done and I can 
just be truly present for 10 

537
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,400
minutes, you know, it's kind of 
crazy. 

538
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,200
You do all this shit for six 
months, so that you can be truly

539
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,400
present for 10 minutes, but it's
so, yeah, kind of a saint 

540
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,700
feeling. 
All right, you know what? 

541
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,300
I relate that to her, I always 
think of Edmund Hillary and 

542
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:03,300
Tenzing Norgay when they cry nor
guy when they climbed Everest. 

543
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:10,800
Hmm and he said to apparently 
said two things one was to 

544
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,700
reporter when they said how did 
you do that? 

545
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:18,600
He said, well put one foot in 
front of the other and repeated,

546
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:25,500
it repeatedly, fairly big. 
Whether it's true or not. 

547
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:28,700
It's a but you can just see it. 
You get to the top of Everest, 

548
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:30,900
the highest Pinnacle of climbing
in the world. 

549
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Highest point in the summit. 
You standing there, you get 

550
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,500
there. 
Hmm, better head down. 

551
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,700
Yeah, no I'm so that's it. 
That's it. 

552
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:49,900
It's like Yeah, I feel like we 
like life is full of Peaks and 

553
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:54,900
valleys, but it should probably 
be a little bit more like a, 

554
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,100
like a Mesa top, like a little 
bit of a plateau. 

555
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:04,100
That's how I design where you 
just simply, you know, allow 

556
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:10,400
yourself the presence of that 
moment because I think that one 

557
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,900
thing is certain Yeah, 
absolutely. 

558
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,500
The serenity of those moments 
and I think and that body 

559
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:22,700
wouldn't come presently that. 
I'd I achieved that and maybe it

560
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:26,900
was because it was such a long 
process to get there as far as 

561
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:34,500
the reasons and the background. 
But I remember probably 24 hours

562
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:38,900
before I was still having 
self-image doubts and things 

563
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:42,300
like that. 
I knew that I was ready. 

564
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,300
I ended up getting on stage at 
90 kilos and 9% which was pretty

565
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:49,500
good. 
But once again, the other reason

566
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,600
for doing it outside of the 
history of that was the red rag 

567
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,100
to a bull. 
When I got told there was no 

568
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,800
way, a type 1 diabetic, could 
get on stage and the low-carb 

569
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,200
Focus. 
Tick. 

570
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:07,100
Yeah, I remember standing 
backstage and everyone's 

571
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,300
guzzling pizza and stuff that's 
provided. 

572
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:14,300
And I'm sitting there in jerky, 
Yeah, her major key. 

573
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,600
And, you know, it's that focused
of from a diabetic standpoint. 

574
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:21,700
It was at that moment that I 
went, huh? 

575
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:27,400
Michelle was dropped. 
I think just 24 hours before I 

576
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,500
started being completely 
comfortable in my own skin. 

577
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,900
Yeah. 
Yeah that's wild man. 

578
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:37,200
I mean my first competition. 
I was in the hotel room the 

579
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:44,600
night before looking in the 
mirror and I almost decided not 

580
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,700
to compete, like I was having 
the same self-image issues. 

581
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,200
And I was like, I am not worthy 
of stepping on stage and I 

582
00:39:52,207 --> 00:39:56,200
almost robbed myself of that 
experience, which would have, I 

583
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,100
mean, in did change the 
trajectory of my life, but I 

584
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,700
was, you know, on Cusp of 
Throwing It All Away in an 

585
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:09,800
instant and I feel like I think 
that went sorry but that just 

586
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,500
sums up exactly what we were 
talking about before you had the

587
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,500
choice in that moment to make 
that reality or truth. 

588
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Yeah. 
Instead. 

589
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,000
You made a different reality, or
truth. 

590
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:27,700
So just because you think it 
doesn't make it true, it makes 

591
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:32,100
it real. 
Yeah, if you'd walked away your 

592
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:35,100
truth, would have been exactly 
what your reality was. 

593
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:40,700
To make sense. 
It does it does, I feel like 

594
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:44,000
it's so important, is that in 
the moment to have that 

595
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,300
perspective, though. 
I think it's in 100%, but like, 

596
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:52,900
when you were in the, The Fray, 
You can't think ration like 

597
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,100
that. 
I think we can work to do so. 

598
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:57,300
I mean, you can, it takes a lot 
of effort to do so. 

599
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,500
That's why I love stoicism so 
much, because it kind of like 

600
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:06,400
trains that that mentality. 
But if you're not, well, versed 

601
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200
in how to do that. 
You are so reactionary. 

602
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:15,700
So impulsive so reactive that 
you can't see through that lens.

603
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:20,200
But if you train your mind to 
think like that, then the 

604
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,000
opportunities that you're then 
presented with just, you know, 

605
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,800
quadruple because like, you have
so much more possibility at your

606
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,100
fingertips and most of the time 
it's positive. 

607
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,600
I represent and we sort of 
talking about right now to the 

608
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,000
extreme of things, but a lot of 
people suffer with this concept,

609
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,500
with getting out of bed and 
going to work. 

610
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Yeah, that's same level of 
anxiety associated with 

611
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,600
everyday. 
Life can be. 

612
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,500
Crippling I feel like we all 
start there. 

613
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:57,500
You know, we all like we all not
that we all start on the same 

614
00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:01,600
playing ground but we all start 
with whatever that Baseline is 

615
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,600
and then through, you know, 
trials that get progressively 

616
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,400
harder you're able to just 
improve your mental resilience 

617
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,300
and fortitude and what would 
have bothered you and been 

618
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:17,300
totally crippling Months prior 
is now just a walk in the park 

619
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,100
but yeah, I understand what was 
totally unattainable for you. 

620
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:25,400
Six months prior is now your new
Baseline and I don't think it 

621
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,400
ever gets easier, man, like, 
there are certain things in my 

622
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,600
life right now, that way, very, 
very heavily on me to the point 

623
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,100
of like, what in the hell am I 
doing this for? 

624
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:39,800
And it's easy to get caught up 
in thinking, man, I wish this 

625
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,100
would just go away and I could 
be, you know, not dealing with 

626
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,600
this and maybe some of that 
stuff will go away. 

627
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,600
But like, the actual feeling of 
hardship, like, I don't know if 

628
00:42:52,607 --> 00:42:55,200
that ever goes away and I don't 
know that Honesty would want it 

629
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,500
to go. 
Well, like, if I could flip a 

630
00:42:56,508 --> 00:42:58,900
switch and have it go away, I 
don't think I would, I would 

631
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:03,900
exercise that, right? 
Well, I think lasted realistic 

632
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:04,900
expectation. 
Isn't that? 

633
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,600
There is no up without down if 
you don't have hardship, how do 

634
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,200
you know what you have on the 
other side. 

635
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,500
Ouch. 
Yeah. 

636
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,900
You don't have a one sided coin.
Every single thing we experience

637
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:19,500
in life has an opposite down. 
Happy sad. 

638
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:26,900
You know if there was no sadness
but all probably be crying in 

639
00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:29,300
our cups. 
Over being happy for too long. 

640
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Yeah there's no there's no 
context to happiness if you 

641
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,900
don't know. 
Sadness there's no context to 

642
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:40,800
sadness happiness but if we try 
and level out that playing field

643
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,700
so it's a gentle swell instead 
of Peaks and troughs on a 

644
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:49,000
Rolling. 
See you know I still get up get 

645
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,600
down all the time and try to 
focus my energy and we try to 

646
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,900
focus our energy here I suppose 
on sale I feel like crap. 

647
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,900
Okay. 
And let it be. 

648
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:07,800
Okay. 
Just because there is no app 

649
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,600
without down. 
It's a natural part of our 

650
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,100
existence. 
We don't get up and say, I'm so 

651
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:13,500
happy. 
I wish I say. 

652
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,600
Yeah. 
And what's interesting is that 

653
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:20,500
these ailments, they're pretty 
Universal Man. 

654
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:25,400
Like, most people are struggling
with pretty much the same thing 

655
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,800
like it's all relative based off
of where that person is in life.

656
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,900
But like everybody is struggling
to some extent with, you know, 

657
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:33,700
whether it be finances or 
friendly relationships or hell, 

658
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,000
With concerns, I would think 
that's probably like the three 

659
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,700
big ones, finances relationships
and you know, health concerns 

660
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,400
and hardships. 
Like I don't know, that 

661
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,300
spirituality is probably a big 
one that people struggle with 

662
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:50,300
but those three or four are 
pretty Universal across the 

663
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:53,000
board. 
They over like to see it on 

664
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,700
they. 
Yeah there's a great 

665
00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:59,400
philosopher. 
Like what has four noble truths 

666
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,800
or three Noble Truths. 
I should say there's a 

667
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,900
summarization Them, this is all 
suffering is caused by a desire 

668
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:10,500
for things to be different to 
what they are. 

669
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:16,500
Hmm. 
And I've made a tater on that a 

670
00:45:16,508 --> 00:45:21,300
lot, personally, because it's 
100% correctly, the anxiety, we 

671
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:23,700
feel and everything else is 
associated with something 

672
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:26,000
wanting something to be 
different, to what it is or the 

673
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,200
fear of the outcome. 
Unknown. 

674
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,600
It's interesting you were 
talking earlier about how the 

675
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,900
physiological response to 
anxiety and fear and excitement 

676
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:39,600
of pretty much the same. 
I think that exact same thing 

677
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:46,500
holds true between the spectrum 
of fear and hope, you know, hope

678
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:51,300
and fear or two sides of the 
same coin, 100%. 

679
00:45:53,300 --> 00:46:02,000
Hundred percent. 
With yeah, look what you're 

680
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,400
doing right now your property in
your business and everything 

681
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,900
else in law. 
It's pretty incredible. 

682
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,400
Thank you. 
Sometimes it feels like I'm 

683
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,900
losing everything in my mind 
sometimes. 

684
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:20,600
Yeah, it's like I the 
everything's crashing down, but 

685
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,000
I appreciate that. 
And that's where people look at 

686
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,700
you and go. 
Geez, I wish for you had because

687
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:29,600
they don't know that. 
They see the perception of 

688
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,500
confidence, the presentation of 
understanding and the stoicism 

689
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:35,600
would have liked you, you know, 
face the concept of 

690
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,400
understanding the obstacle is 
the path. 

691
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:42,200
Hmm. 
But you're also not afraid to 

692
00:46:42,207 --> 00:46:46,900
express the understanding is all
scratchy sound quite as easy as 

693
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:51,800
I thought, I might be gives us. 
I'm going to have to fight for 

694
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,100
it. 
If I actually want it, you have 

695
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:57,600
to fight for it. 
And what's interesting is like I

696
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,100
often times meditate on the 
worst case scenario, not because

697
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:05,100
I want to be pessimistic or just
- but I would like you need to 

698
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,800
know the area. 
Yeah, I want to know what the 

699
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,100
absolute worst is. 
And still be comfortable with 

700
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:14,200
that are not necessarily 
comfortable but just you know, 

701
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,000
embrace it for what it is. 
And I think from from my life, 

702
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:21,600
you know there are a lot of 
things that I've built over the 

703
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,900
past several years that I'm very
proud of but if I lost it all 

704
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:29,700
tomorrow, which I certainly 
don't want. 

705
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:35,900
But if I did I don't think that 
would be, what defines me? 

706
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:37,700
I don't think any of the things 
that I've built over the past 

707
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:41,500
several years, in, its 
Singularity is what defines me, 

708
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:46,000
and everything that I have 
built, I've built with what I 

709
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,300
believe to be a moral code of 
ethics. 

710
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:49,900
I've never stab anybody in the 
back. 

711
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:53,100
I've never sacrificed my 
Integrity for decision that I've

712
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:57,400
made, so I can hold my head high
about everything that I've done,

713
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:01,900
and whatever the outcome may be.
And yeah, there may be humbling 

714
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:05,400
moments. 
It's but if it doesn't work out.

715
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Then I just keep going because 
that's the only option. 

716
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:15,000
It is what it is. 
On the day, you wake up and it 

717
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,100
didn't work out as the seven 
day. 

718
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:27,300
Seven day seven said every you 
know, every day you wake up, you

719
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:31,500
have what's left of your life. 
You have 100% of hmm. 

720
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
And the choice really comes down
to what you use it for. 

721
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,000
And I'm so glad to hear you say 
this, the moral and ethical 

722
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:47,600
standpoint and the one sentence 
because it really, it's really 

723
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,300
upsetting to me that people can 
perceive to justify actions on 

724
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,500
the basis of that. 
They wouldn't do playing to do 

725
00:48:55,700 --> 00:49:00,000
from a moral standpoint, in the 
personal life that they justify 

726
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,700
through the ethical standpoint 
of the from professional level. 

727
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:09,100
Yeah, if it's not ethical, oh, 
It's not moral. 

728
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:11,800
And if it's not moral, it's not 
ethical. 

729
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:16,200
And that is very true. 
One in the same thing and if you

730
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,900
believe you can justify your 
actions on the basis of an 

731
00:49:18,908 --> 00:49:22,100
ethical standpoint. 
You've got a choice. 

732
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:26,900
Leave your job or stop. 
Just if you would screw someone 

733
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:29,700
over professionally and still 
planning to be a moral person, 

734
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:33,900
because that was work. 
It's it just doesn't sit. 

735
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,700
Yeah, you think? 
No, I totally agree. 

736
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:39,800
I mean, I lose a lot of sleep at
night, not even gonna lie but I 

737
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,400
don't lose any sleep having to 
worry look over my shoulder and 

738
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,500
concern myself with if I've 
made, you know, morally, poor 

739
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:52,900
decisions. 
Like I have never lost sleep for

740
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:54,600
that. 
Yeah. 

741
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:03,500
Yeah, I'm not sure how we're 
going to time, but there's a 

742
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:08,500
couple of my moves run away from
the ketogenic build. 

743
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:11,800
I'm Justified to the comp. 
But I like this hat, man, like, 

744
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,900
I love these mindset talks and I
love like, we haven't really 

745
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,200
given the listeners. 
Any concept is to what you were 

746
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,100
doing, but all of this that 
we've been talking about 

747
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,700
probably means makes a lot more 
sense for you. 

748
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:25,900
And I because we kind of know 
what you get going but but You 

749
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:31,300
just made a massive commitment 
that many people would be 

750
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,100
fearful to do. 
And I'm sure you were feel 

751
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,500
fearful to do and there's no 
guarantee that it's going to 

752
00:50:36,508 --> 00:50:39,200
even work out. 
But you're in The Fray right 

753
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:44,400
obey what it is and if you know 
and you would know this yourself

754
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,000
if you yes you worry about the 
fear of the outcome and 

755
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,400
everything else but at the end 
of the day, if you you can 

756
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,500
create your own self fulfilling 
prophecy a failure. 

757
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,000
If you focus too much on the 
potential for negative outcome, 

758
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,200
you can actually manifest that 
in your daily life. 

759
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,300
Yeah. 
You know, people talking about, 

760
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:10,700
you say to someone manifest your
own reality and they look at 

761
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,300
you. 
Like you're a modern-day hippie 

762
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:16,400
and to a degree, we are, but at 
the end of the day, everything 

763
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:22,800
we do on a daily basis. 
We manifest The only difference 

764
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,500
is we don't know, we're doing 
it. 

765
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,200
If we get up and make yourself a
cup of coffee, it's because we 

766
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,900
think I want a cup of coffee. 
How do I achieve that? 

767
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,500
Just because it's an automated 
process, doesn't mean the first 

768
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:40,000
time that we did it. 
We didn't have to explore the 

769
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,900
options, which started with 
questions. 

770
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,300
How do I do that? 
If we don't start with the 

771
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:52,300
question of, how do I do that? 
We don't get the answer of 

772
00:51:54,500 --> 00:52:00,400
First, I must need a jug. 
One coffee machine for water. 

773
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:04,000
I need water. 
What do I put the water in on 

774
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,300
us? 
Put water in a cup, but that's 

775
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:08,500
not coffee. 
That's water. 

776
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,000
Do I need a Jag? 
I need a joke. 

777
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,900
Stillwater eyeball, the joke. 
Still just hot water. 

778
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:21,400
What do I need now? 
Coffee. 

779
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,300
Where do I get that from? 
There's not in the cupboard. 

780
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,200
I must have to go to the shop 
for it. 

781
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,700
Now, that might sound silly, but
that's how we work through the 

782
00:52:29,707 --> 00:52:34,300
process of manifesting every 
single thing in a day. yeah, 

783
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:38,200
there was no difference between 
that on a daily basis, in a 

784
00:52:38,207 --> 00:52:44,400
simplistic level Two. 
I guess trying to drive for a 

785
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,700
successful businesses. 
How do I do that? 

786
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:52,000
Now, any given point in time you
can say here, I don't want to 

787
00:52:52,008 --> 00:52:58,500
get the shop screw the coffee. 
But at least we'll ask the 

788
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,600
questions and made the decision.
Yeah. 

789
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,700
I'm a big fan of you chose. 
This Is It Dream ownership 

790
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,900
mentality that junko popular 
rise like that? 

791
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:15,300
That resonates with me, I don't 
know like whether for good or 

792
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:21,000
for bad if you just simply own 
it in its totality like you are 

793
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,600
at fault for any good or bad. 
That comes your way that while 

794
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,700
it requires a the highest degree
of responsibility that to me is 

795
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,200
much more empowering than just 
assuming that the world is, you 

796
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,900
know, as it is and I'm dealt a 
hand of cards that I have, you 

797
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:45,600
know, only a handful of options 
to play an exciting ownership 

798
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,500
mentality. 
Does require an ad a ton of 

799
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:55,400
stress but I feel like at the 
end of the day it's so much more

800
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,200
empowering so much so much 
better because you can do 

801
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,700
something with that. 
I mean you you have it at your 

802
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:03,600
disposal. 
I think instead of Bolivia stop 

803
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,500
blaming other people for your 
outcomes. 

804
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:08,800
Yeah. 
And once we can tap taking 

805
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,600
responsibility you know this is 
a very much an addictive focus 

806
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,200
on the standing when you when 
you can take responsibility for 

807
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,500
your outcomes. 
You can take responsibility for 

808
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:23,600
your actions. and when you take 
responsibility for your actions,

809
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,600
it's whether you appreciate 
within yourself through outcome 

810
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,700
It's still going to be better 
than feeling like he can blame 

811
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:37,200
someone else for what you did. 
Yeah, it's not easy to blame 

812
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,000
yourself for your misfortunes 
but I guess this is a question 

813
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,500
whether or not you need to 
blame. 

814
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:47,500
Yeah whether or not playing 
actually needs to be a part of 

815
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:50,700
the process as an autistic 
Spirit. 

816
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:53,600
Yeah that's certainly healthier 
approach to it. 

817
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,700
The same with folk really, does 
it actually matter whose fault 

818
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:02,300
something in? 
So what what's the definition of

819
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:09,200
fault cause and effect? 
Oh, that is experienced as well 

820
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,000
as I mean, it's the concept of 
understanding a mistake a 

821
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,800
mistake only ever happens once. 
If it happens again, it's not a 

822
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:24,200
mistake, it's a choice, right? 
So anything we only ever fail at

823
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:31,600
once was is that something to be
blamed or way to learn how not 

824
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,400
to do something? 
Yeah, it happens twice then you 

825
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,300
can probably allocated 
responsibility. 

826
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:45,100
You're absolutely right man. 
Just for the sake of context 

827
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:49,100
here. 
Can you let us know exactly what

828
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,400
what it is. 
You are, whatever you are in the

829
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,700
midst of? 
Yes, wait, way of coming to a 

830
00:55:54,707 --> 00:55:58,900
property and a little town of 
Toowoomba, which is 12 acres, 

831
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,800
haven't even cabins, 12 by 30 
meters shed that we're turning 

832
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,100
into a health and well-being, 
Retreat, mental, and physical 

833
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:12,100
health. 
My wife's a yoga instructor and 

834
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:16,200
international jiu-jitsu fighter.
I'm a personal trainer and 

835
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:21,000
health coach, and counselor. 
And we want to bring those 

836
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:28,100
focuses together to operate, 
Retreats, basically focused on 

837
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:31,500
mental and physical well-being. 
So, the property itself so only 

838
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:34,700
10 minutes from the city center 
but it's completely Serene and 

839
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:37,500
park land. 
I'll have to send you some 

840
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,400
proper photos actually. 
Yeah, let me see. 

841
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,100
The property we came into is 
extremely unique. 

842
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,300
There's two dorms five, cabins, 
and a main residence with the 

843
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:57,200
total of about 20 beds, and the 
opportunities, and the 

844
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,800
landscaped yards, just 
incredibly beautiful bad. 

845
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,800
You know, best incredibly 
daunting, you walk in the door 

846
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,200
and you think ye were off and 
the Very following day. 

847
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:09,600
You've got to start to learn to 
adapt to all the challenges and 

848
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,400
owning a property. 
And that in itself can be a 

849
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,800
full-time job. 
So you have to start finding 

850
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,400
ways to make the property work 
for you, rather than you work 

851
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,300
for the property, anytime you 
make a sizable investment in 

852
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:25,400
property or building 
infrastructure in that. 

853
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,700
That like I'm not sure what how 
you structured then, but like 

854
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,500
investing taking out a loan and 
leveraging, your life savings 

855
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,900
for something. 
That is a pretty daunting in and

856
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,600
of itself. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

857
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,000
It's terrifying. 
Cause you don't know the 

858
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,500
outcomes you still have 
counselors to deal with them, 

859
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:47,600
what you can, and Counting, and 
this, and that, and everything 

860
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,300
else. 
You know, we're in the process 

861
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:56,000
of getting a cold water therapy.
Pollan, Love Culture has or a 

862
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,800
beautiful thing. 
But being able to sit in the 

863
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:07,600
big, deep color therapy pool, it
is a little winter, have been 

864
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,400
doing the mountains called 
therefore how has your plunge 

865
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,000
pool going. 
It's going good. 

866
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,300
So I have not it's not really a 
legitimate coal plant. 

867
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:18,900
I mean, it is legitimate cold 
Plunge in that, it is very cold 

868
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,200
and I'm plunging in it. 
But it's just simply a stock 

869
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,700
tank that I felt full of water. 
And the temperature of the water

870
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,000
is totally dependent upon the 
temperature of the outside. 

871
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,200
So, like, when it was freaking 
cold the past couple weeks, you 

872
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,500
know, everything was frozen. 
I was breaking through eight 

873
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:36,700
inches of ice to get into the 
water that. 

874
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:39,300
Wow, that was a proper cold 
plunge. 

875
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:42,400
But then this past week, it's 
Not been near as cold. 

876
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,000
So the waters been like upper 
40s which is still pretty 

877
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:52,500
freaking cold, but it's not like
34, we run the entire property 

878
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:57,500
on a tank, what it? 
So, cold tank water is 

879
00:58:57,500 --> 00:59:00,700
completely different to tap 
water, which is a beautiful 

880
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:05,400
thing and you get in the shower 
and you turn it on and my wife's

881
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,900
even decided she's going to do 
the last 30 seconds of her 

882
00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:11,900
shower cold, which is nice. 
Nice. 

883
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:20,000
But you there's something about 
that cold water that turns on a 

884
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:26,200
stimulation for life. 
Yeah, I like your brain opens up

885
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:32,500
and the matter of seconds with 
Clarity and a different level of

886
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:39,300
plane. 
It's like you get out the 

887
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:42,500
invigoration, clears, the mind 
to a degree. 

888
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:46,900
Yeah, there's been it's crazy. 
How popular these called plunges

889
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:51,700
have gotten here, like the past 
month or two, but honestly, it's

890
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:57,400
all you now honestly, whether 
there are any actual health 

891
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,900
benefits and which I'm sure 
there are, but like, all of 

892
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:04,600
these proposed health benefits, 
you know, even if those did not 

893
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:09,200
List the mental benefit. 
I get simply from doing 

894
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,900
something undesirable. 
First thing in the morning is 

895
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:16,500
totally worth it. 
Absolutely. 

896
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:22,600
I wonder about the from a 
nutritional standpoint, the 

897
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,200
Because it's meant to rested 
Elation, and all of that type of

898
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,000
things, meant to be stimulating 
for the metabolic system, and 

899
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,400
the brown fat, isn't it? 
So, one of the things that I 

900
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:45,100
started on the keto and glow cab
focused way once I got into it 

901
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:52,300
and understanding very much got 
into fasting. because as a 

902
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:56,100
person with a history like mine,
I want to do everything I can to

903
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,400
I've got very young kids, 
they're seven and nine. 

904
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:05,900
So we started late in life and I
want to be around for them for a

905
01:01:05,908 --> 01:01:08,200
long period of time. 
And as a type 1 diabetic, this 

906
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,700
predispositions for the body to 
start failing, not a very well 

907
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:18,900
control type 1 diabetic a1c's 
about 5.8 5.9 and obviously I 

908
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:23,100
run, you know, I can ride 30 
case on a mountain in the 

909
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:27,900
morning fasted and most 
diabetics blue Balk at that 

910
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:35,300
concept, but the otology factors
associated with fasting and 

911
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:39,000
things like that. 
I'm sort of hoping we'll give 

912
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:42,300
some benefit to the recycling of
the system. 

913
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,700
I don't believe in any way, 
shape, or form that a prolonged 

914
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:50,800
period of Healthy. 
Living eradicates the damage of 

915
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,900
prolonged period of unhealthy 
living. 

916
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:59,300
I think much that damage is done
the potential for damage within 

917
01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:02,500
the system. 
You know certainly if I was to 

918
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,300
have an event tomorrow that was 
catastrophic, I wouldn't be 

919
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:10,800
sitting there saying why me but 
I live so healthy. 

920
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,900
I would just have to be what it 
was because wanting to get a 

921
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,900
better quality of life for a 
prolonged period of time. 

922
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:24,000
Doesn't eradicate the 
self-destructive tendencies in 

923
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,300
the past life. 
That's true. 

924
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:31,300
I totally agree with you. 
However, I do feel like the in 

925
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:34,800
certainly Hedges the bets in 
your favor so to speak you know 

926
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,100
like that guitar. 
So yeah that's mean for you to 

927
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:42,000
continue your life which I feel 
like a lot of people do. 

928
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,300
Like it's the same concept of 
nutrition, like, people that are

929
01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:46,800
on a diet, they eat one cookie. 
So they just decided to eat the 

930
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,000
rest of the Box. 
Yeah, you know, like that that 

931
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,600
holds true with regard to 
Lifestyle design as well. 

932
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,200
And a lot of people that had 
been an alcoholic or smoking 

933
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:00,200
their whole life, they're just 
like, oh well, I screwed up no 

934
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,800
sense in stock. 
Just keep telling her. 

935
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:05,500
Yeah, but I feel like while 
you'd not doing that and living 

936
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:09,600
the healthy life that you are, 
certainly hasn't absolved your 

937
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,800
prior, you know, lifestyle 
decisions. 

938
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:16,600
It certainly is not contribute 
to the compounding effect of 

939
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,100
those - decisions. 
No. 

940
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,000
And I think find that the 
concept of autophagy extremely 

941
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:29,800
fascinating if we were to move 
on to that very quickly when 

942
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,400
I've got, I've got to thank you,
thank you, thank you for 

943
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,800
obviously I followed you a lot 
of understanding and you gave me

944
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,400
a lot of strong structure of 
advice in relation to body, 

945
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,400
wouldn't come. 
I need to thank you for that, 

946
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,000
man. 
My pleasure, man. 

947
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,400
I mean, I enjoyed the email 
dialogue that we had leading up 

948
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,800
to your competition, you know? 
I don't know. 

949
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,900
I got a good. 
Look at the people that I 

950
01:03:53,908 --> 01:03:56,200
interact with, in the space, the
people that I podcast with the 

951
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,100
people that I meet face-to-face,
the clients that have worked 

952
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,600
with the email correspondence, 
like I feel very blessed to just

953
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,400
simply have the relationships 
that I do, so my pleasure. 

954
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:11,600
Something that one of the key 
things that I took away from 

955
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,900
your understanding. 
We talked about this briefly by 

956
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:17,500
email as the impact of protein, 
on blood sugar. 

957
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:25,100
I don't know if you recall, but 
I took what, once again, people 

958
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:30,100
are gobsmacked, whether my it, 
the luck has 90 kilos and 

959
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:34,200
having, by the time of comp, or 
the week out from comp, I think 

960
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:43,200
it was about 140 to 150. 
And of protein per day, which is

961
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:49,300
down to about 1.6. 
But there was wealth under what 

962
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:52,400
I would normally be taking it 
around 2 to 2.5. 

963
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:59,500
And as I lowered my protein 
content, I ended up waking up in

964
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:04,100
the night with hypos So, my 
blood sugar was dropping too low

965
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:06,500
for the volume of insulin that I
had on board and this is the 

966
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:12,100
other interesting thing. 
But then chillin We've always 

967
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:15,800
got insulin in our body so it's 
not ketones. 

968
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:19,700
Can be present and the system 
operates and producers ketones 

969
01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:24,800
with insulin presence. 
That's the volume that takes The

970
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:31,700
ketosis out of the process. 
So because we run basil units of

971
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:36,400
insulin 24 hours a day. 
I can still be producing key 

972
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:43,500
terms, but the more I'm a bolus 
or inject for food is what slows

973
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:50,700
or stops that process, right? 
And overnight, my basal level 

974
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:55,100
was set a standard, we read it 
over, really check it across, my

975
01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,300
blood sugar levels at night, 
through gluten are constantly 

976
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:03,800
first onto and as I dropped my 
protein, what I found was, I was

977
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,600
high-powered because I had too 
much insulin in my system, what 

978
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:12,900
that rolled over to was 
gluconeogenesis Higher volumes 

979
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:17,100
of protein, take longer to 
convert to sugars. 

980
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,000
What isn't required by the body.
So once it's homeostasis release

981
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,900
it obviously converts the 
protein to glucose, So it can be

982
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:31,100
stored or used. 
And unbeknownst to me until I 

983
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:34,200
tried this experiment on that 
unbeknownst to me doing an 

984
01:06:34,207 --> 01:06:39,100
experiment. 
I was clearly converting a high 

985
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:45,500
volume of excess protein. 
And to Sugar overnight as the 

986
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:50,300
body was restabilizing. 
Yeah. 

987
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:54,900
And that was to the point where 
I had to drop over 3 units of 

988
01:06:54,900 --> 01:07:01,600
insulin out of my daily use. 
Overnight to get it to 

989
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,900
stabilize. 
Now, the interesting thing is 

990
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:09,000
for people on weight management 
control programs and things that

991
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:15,000
they're doing low-carb for with 
a high-protein focus, is that 

992
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,800
that insulin overnight is 
potentially putting you into 

993
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:22,300
storage. 
So, I've not when you meant to 

994
01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:25,800
be burning, all of that, I'm 
repairing the body. 

995
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,400
It's actually in storage mode 
because the excess protein in 

996
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:35,200
your diet, the whole concept of 
protein utilization and what 

997
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,100
amounts are recommended as an 
interesting topic, I mean, that 

998
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:39,600
could be a whole book as in and 
of itself. 

999
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,300
And there's a lot of debate 
around protein requirements, 

1000
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:45,800
especially in the setting of a 
low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet,

1001
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,500
especially in the setting of a 
competitive athlete. 

1002
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:56,200
What I've found to be unique is 
that many coaches will just 

1003
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,400
simply base your protein intake 
off of your lean mass, and they 

1004
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,300
just hold that console, like it 
never changes its asset number 

1005
01:08:04,300 --> 01:08:08,500
and does not fluctuate. 
One thing that I like about my 

1006
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:11,700
protocol is that I manipulate 
protein throughout the entirety 

1007
01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:14,400
of my protocol, like it is never
in a constant state. 

1008
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,100
It's always in a flux based off 
of the feedback that we are 

1009
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:22,700
getting from your body. 
I feel like it just makes sense,

1010
01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:27,200
like, there's no, nothing should
be viewed in isolation, and 

1011
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,800
protein is incredibly important.
And I like that, this, that 

1012
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,200
protein has been given the stage
so to speak as of late because 

1013
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,100
the for a while, their people 
were most certainly under 

1014
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:38,899
consuming protein. 
So I like that the narrative has

1015
01:08:38,899 --> 01:08:41,700
shifted more towards the other 
end of the spectrum because I 

1016
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:44,100
feel like given the to it's 
better to over-consume than 

1017
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:48,899
under consume but over consuming
protein is certainly not you 

1018
01:08:48,899 --> 01:08:51,200
know without Out its adverse 
effects. 

1019
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,399
It is not optimal and you would 
never know what optimal is 

1020
01:08:55,500 --> 01:09:00,200
unless you fluctuate, protein 
based off of your dietary 

1021
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,300
manipulations, what you're 
trying to accomplish, how your 

1022
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:05,300
body is responding. 
So I think that is key. 

1023
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:08,100
I feel like just simply leaving 
at a constant intake and not 

1024
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,800
changing. 
It is just leaving opportunity 

1025
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,899
on the table. well, it's ironic,
they changing everything else in

1026
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:17,800
the structure of your life to 
achieve your goal and keeping 

1027
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:21,899
one thing that's highly relevant
to that constant. 

1028
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:26,399
Yeah, it is. 
And the other interesting thing 

1029
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:29,700
to that is actually believe you 
need a higher volume of protein 

1030
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:33,399
for endurance racing, then, even
for the structure of something 

1031
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:38,200
like bodybuilding, you know, we 
think we need to replenish 

1032
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,399
electrolytes. 
Absolutely. 

1033
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,800
We do, we think we need to 
replenish energy to a degree 

1034
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:49,000
because, you know, even a person
10% body fat has probably Days 

1035
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:54,100
on a desert island free of 
charge, thanks to thanks to 

1036
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,000
ketosis. 
And once that process is rolling

1037
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,900
on the bike, for example over a 
prolonged period and you just 

1038
01:09:59,900 --> 01:10:04,000
don't run out of energy. 
You don't have the one thing you

1039
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,800
do need for constant repair 
their structures. 

1040
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,700
And cellular level is amino 
acids. 

1041
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:15,100
So I think we underestimate the 
impact of amino acids and 

1042
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:20,400
endurance and I'm doing for my 
next adventure, because I 

1043
01:10:20,407 --> 01:10:24,200
qualified for the, for the 
Nationals and the bodybuilding 

1044
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,500
that I didn't do it because I 
had to pull myself back and say,

1045
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:30,500
okay, well, you need to get back
to the family. 

1046
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:33,200
I'm not waiting another three 
weeks and that wasn't in my 

1047
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,800
scope, getting getting on the 
podium was in the Moscow, 

1048
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:41,600
getting on stage, but I've said 
the next challenge at the March 

1049
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:46,600
do. 100K endurance race called 
the gravel and Granite. 

1050
01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:51,300
It isn't this March 23? 
Yep yep. 

1051
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:54,900
So a couple months time and I 
want to focus on. 

1052
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,700
I've done it previously of what 
we call the new sir 100 which 

1053
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:05,500
was 100 K race, a couple of 
hours, the last race I did 

1054
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:08,000
before changing must Focus the 
bodybuilding. 

1055
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,200
So about two years ago and then 
I do it. 

1056
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,800
Did it in the build-up to that I
want to do it again to this is 

1057
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,400
prove that you don't have to 
sacrifice lean muscle mass. 

1058
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,800
Printer in sand that you can 
maintain and even increase 

1059
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,800
muscle mass under Insurance 
loads. 

1060
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,800
So, for the new, someone, I 
spent six months training for 

1061
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,000
that. 
So less for this one, over the 

1062
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,800
primary three months, attract, 
or went from 90, kilos to 90.2 

1063
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:42,700
kilos. 
For that race and maintained 

1064
01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:45,800
complete muscle mass structure 
training for 100k endurance. 

1065
01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:50,900
Yeah, I think there's a there's 
a ton of misconception around 

1066
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:55,200
what is possible from a muscle 
preservation standpoint. 

1067
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,900
There is there's probably more 
that we don't know about muscle 

1068
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:03,700
preservation than there is that 
we know about muscle building. 

1069
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,800
Yes and just in my own personal 
life. 

1070
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,700
What I've seen in being able to 
preserve muscle preserve 

1071
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:14,600
strength in these extreme 
competition, preps in, which my 

1072
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,000
protein. 
Has sometimes gotten very low 

1073
01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:21,000
yet. 
I see Zero reduction in overall 

1074
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,200
strength and see ya. 
Nobody reduction in muscle 

1075
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,600
tissue either like that that 
flies in the face of what 

1076
01:12:28,700 --> 01:12:31,800
traditional, bro, wisdom, you 
know, advocates for. 

1077
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,300
So yeah, there's a lot that we 
still have to uncover it when it

1078
01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:39,600
comes to preserving lean tissue,
But that's exciting to me. 

1079
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,900
I'm like that Frontier. 
Yeah, it's at 100% may also 

1080
01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:49,200
because you know, to make from 
an evolutionary standpoint, you 

1081
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,900
would maintain what you've 
required to survive on a daily 

1082
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:55,700
basis, right? 
So if you push the boundaries 

1083
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:57,500
and like, I don't train 
endurance. 

1084
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,800
I want to train athletes for 
endurance. 

1085
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,200
I don't train them, 
traditionally when I told them 

1086
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,400
to go out and do what they do on
a daily basis. 

1087
01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:11,200
And when they get to me, I 
pushed them hard and weights and

1088
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,300
functional training and push 
them right up to the capacity 

1089
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,700
and because the higher the 
volume of oxygenation of the 

1090
01:13:18,708 --> 01:13:22,300
cell and the capacity of that 
cell to be able to absorb their 

1091
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:27,500
nutrients and oxygenation. 
It's got a reflect a higher 

1092
01:13:27,500 --> 01:13:30,200
level of ability and maintain 
high volume out there. 

1093
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:36,500
Yeah I agree and and I think if 
the body senses that need 

1094
01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:39,600
something it does. 
Anything it possibly can to hold

1095
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,600
on to it. 
That's why I'm such an advocate 

1096
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,400
for, you know, me personally 
having been strict keto for as 

1097
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,500
long as I have. 
I really believe that my body 

1098
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,400
has become incredibly efficient 
at using that as the primary 

1099
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,100
fuel source. 
Like we sell our bodies short. 

1100
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:58,400
Like, what the says, give 
yourself to run on your body 

1101
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,200
becomes increasingly efficient 
and running on and his notion 

1102
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:07,600
that you have to have, you know,
a mixed diet to Optima. 

1103
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,200
That that to me is more so an 
argument in favor of being a 

1104
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,900
jack-of-all-trades. 
Trades master of none like you 

1105
01:14:12,900 --> 01:14:16,600
have to Mize around a very 
Niche, Focus, laser focus. 

1106
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,500
And then that to me is, what is 
optimal. 

1107
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,100
Yeah, even the concept of I try 
to promote that and went. 

1108
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:26,100
Well, that's, you know, that's 
not trying it. 

1109
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,500
Yeah, I totally agree. 
You know, once your body's fat 

1110
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:33,800
adapted, the concept of being 
inverted, brackets kicked out of

1111
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,800
ketosis is pretty ludicrous, 
really? 

1112
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,200
Yeah, your body's is your fuel 
system. 

1113
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,900
So just because you're not 
producing ketones at any given 

1114
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:44,700
point in time, doesn't mean 
you're not in ketosis or being 

1115
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:47,900
kicked out of it. 
Now I could eat a pizza tomorrow

1116
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:52,600
if I wanted to and the Day go 
out and do a faster dried and be

1117
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,300
pumping out units of 40 times. 
Yeah. 

1118
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,400
But you don't have to have that 
pizza in order for your car and 

1119
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,100
one processed carbohydrates like
it's not like your body forgets 

1120
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:07,700
how to use glucose nice 100%. 
And and you know when people say

1121
01:15:07,700 --> 01:15:09,900
that it's sort of ghost must be 
a bit because your liver is 

1122
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:12,200
constantly producing sugar to 
stabilize your blood sugar 

1123
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,600
levels. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1124
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:19,700
Your body is a sugar refinery, 
that's why one of the reasons I 

1125
01:15:19,700 --> 01:15:22,300
believe, we don't need glucose 
because your body makes it so 

1126
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:28,800
efficiently from that 100% 100%.
Well, you know, we need amino 

1127
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,200
acids, we're going to Central 
ones that we need for meat. 

1128
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,800
We need a fatty amount of 
essential fatty acids, but I'm 

1129
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,100
still struggling with the 
concept of an essential 

1130
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:39,100
carbohydrate us. 
I can't seem to find any 

1131
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:41,900
reference to it. 
Yeah, I don't think it exists. 

1132
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:46,700
That's the defiant. 
So we're having my favorite. 

1133
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:50,200
Yeah, my favorite one is all we 
need the carbohydrates for the 

1134
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,500
vitamins and minerals for that 
means you need vitamins and 

1135
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:54,300
minerals. 
Not have hydrates. 

1136
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,700
Yeah. 
Bingo, bingo, Roy, I hate to say

1137
01:15:57,700 --> 01:15:59,500
this man. 
I did not realize that we do. 

1138
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:01,300
I hear you man. 
I'm looking at this ongoing. 

1139
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:03,900
Jeez and gone way past. 
No, no, it's good though. 

1140
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,400
I just, I would stay longer. 
I've gotta watch rigel. 

1141
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,800
Crystals got a client call here 
soon, but loving seeing your 

1142
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,800
beautiful family, bro. 
Thank you, sir. 

1143
01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:18,100
I I'm soaking it all in, kind of
going back to what we were 

1144
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:22,600
saying earlier about doing 
things outside our comfort zone,

1145
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:25,500
trying to find a true sense of 
fulfillment in life. 

1146
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,400
Like I love what I do, I love 
the business, I love everything 

1147
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,300
about it, I love the stress. 
I mean, I love it all, but I 

1148
01:16:34,300 --> 01:16:40,400
would, I would do anything to 
just simply have Crystal and 

1149
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,500
rigel in my corner, like, if I 
had nothing to my name, but But 

1150
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:47,300
them I would consider myself a 
lucky man. 

1151
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,300
Well, if you had nothing but 
dammit have everything. 

1152
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:56,800
Exactly, exactly. 
Categorize, that as people, ask 

1153
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,100
me, what I want to change the 
life in the for wouldn't have 

1154
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,800
gone through. 
What I went through in order to 

1155
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,100
be where I am and I seen what I 
wouldn't be where I am, I 

1156
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:05,900
wouldn't be looking at my kids. 
I wouldn't be doing what I'm 

1157
01:17:05,900 --> 01:17:08,000
doing and for all I know I'd be 
dead. 

1158
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:12,400
Yeah. 
So changing anything from the 

1159
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:17,200
past is just Going to refuse to 
accept who you are and yourself 

1160
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,400
and without a level of love for 
the bad things and who we are. 

1161
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,200
I mean, I would accept that then
we're not whole. 

1162
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:30,200
Yeah, you have to forget which 
where I heard this but basically

1163
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,800
like we all have our own 
Darkness to hide from the 

1164
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:39,100
darkness is to remove the 
opportunity to fully embrace. 

1165
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,700
The light that you also possess 
like you have to have that. 

1166
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:46,200
The albaicin. 
The doc nice to have the line. 

1167
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:49,400
Yeah 100%. 
It's the context of the 

1168
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,100
dualistic. 
No. 

1169
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:53,200
Single sided quality? 
Yep. 

1170
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:56,500
Yep. 
I thank the darkness for giving 

1171
01:17:56,500 --> 01:18:00,400
me the lat 100% ma'am. 
We're rolling with. 

1172
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,300
It is what it is. 
We're going to have to do it. 

1173
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:06,400
Another podcast will have to 
dive deep into what you want to 

1174
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,400
do with, with the what do you 
call it? 

1175
01:18:08,407 --> 01:18:10,900
Is it like a ranch? 
Is it like a, like a job? 

1176
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:13,500
We calling it a retreat at three
Gateway lunch. 

1177
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:15,100
Okay. 
Like that. 

1178
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:16,200
I like that. 
We have to have a whole other 

1179
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,300
podcast specifically dedicated 
towards that and also like the 

1180
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:24,500
the endurance event in March, we
didn't really dive into the nuts

1181
01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:26,100
and bolts of the bodybuilding 
prep. 

1182
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,300
I like that. 
We went as deep as we did with 

1183
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:30,700
the mindset though, man. 
Like this, this was good luck, 

1184
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:32,300
it's crazy man. 
It's a beautiful thing. 

1185
01:18:32,300 --> 01:18:35,500
When you can start on what you 
think is going to be a focus and

1186
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:40,000
just ogress and diversifying to 
you know, going with the flow is

1187
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,300
a beautiful thing and really 
enjoyed our time together so 

1188
01:18:43,300 --> 01:18:44,500
good to finally touch. 
Touch. 

1189
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,000
Yeah, yeah, well, it's 
definitely nice to actually 

1190
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:50,100
communicate with you via a 
medium other than email. 

1191
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,700
So, yeah, love here in the 
Australian accent. 

1192
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,600
The cicadas in the background 
there. 

1193
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,400
Careful. 
I'm actually a buddy kiwi. 

1194
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,200
All right, well I will not say 
too much then I get myself in 

1195
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,400
trouble. 
Awesome man will Roy it's a 

1196
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,900
pleasure. 
Definitely everything I could do

1197
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:11,800
for your brother. 
So my love and energy to your 

1198
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,000
beautiful family and I look 
forward to talking again and 

1199
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,700
then Teacher 100% man. 
Well where do people go to find 

1200
01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:20,900
out more about you? 
I just PSW. 

1201
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:24,100
G.com. 
Do you physical and spiritual 

1202
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:26,600
Wellness Gateway? 
So I only just started the 

1203
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,200
website so it's got a lot of 
work to do. 

1204
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,400
Hey, well I'm gonna I'm gonna be
in Australia at some point in 

1205
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,000
the future. 
I've got a feeling and always 

1206
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,200
around a person ahead up for 
sure. 

1207
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:39,000
I'm just about to do my mountain
bike. 

1208
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,500
Instructors course. 
So we'll have to head out on the

1209
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:43,000
trails which were across the 
road. 

1210
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,800
Well I will be Showing my 
ignorance because I'm going to 

1211
01:19:45,808 --> 01:19:49,400
be, I'm gonna be devastated by 
mountain bike trail, so get 

1212
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:54,600
ready to make fun of me 
something no bro, yes, yes, yes,

1213
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,600
need. 
All right, Roy take care of him.

1214
01:19:57,300 --> 01:19:58,100
Take care about