Water will respond and change its molecular structure.
We as human beings happen to be made-up of over 70% water.
We conduct electricity through that water and when somebody
gets sick or experienced disease it's a dis ease of energy moving
through the body, meaning energy and electricity is not moving
properly. Bring you to speed on this
pretty slick looking pyramid behind you man.
What am I looking at there? So it's called the light system.
This is taking different wavelengths of light and helping
your body synchronize with that. So think red light therapy, but
on a much larger scale. So it helps recharge my cells
because that's part of what this is doing.
It's increasing cellular millivoltage by increasing
mitochondrial activity. So it's helping your cells
increase the amount of electricity it's producing.
When you have more of that, you have more energy to help the
body heal itself. I'm doing my best to build
something new. All right, we are live.
Jason. How are you, brother?
I'm doing well, Rob, I'm doing great.
I'm feeling good. I'm back after a long tour,
sitting back at my desk. I couldn't be happier.
Good man, I'm glad to hear it. I'm glad to hear it.
So I'm excited for this conversation because I get
pitched all kinds of guests. I'm sure you do too.
And like some are interesting, some I, I declined the the
invite on and I'm definitely in like the the biohacking space to
some extent, kind of by way of nutrition and fitness and
training. But you're coming at it from a
totally different angle with, you know, energy synchronicity,
which is something thing I haven't really, you know, dove
too deeply into. So just speak to me in layman's
terms, man. Like for me and the listeners
that are totally ignorant on this subject matter, break it
down in depth for us. So I will say I I am a layperson
myself. I'm not a scientist, I'm not a
doctor. I come from a background of real
estate. What got me into this is
passion. I saw a lot of people get really
well. And my question was like, how
the hell does that work? You know, like how does light,
how does color? How does any of that work to
help the body rebalance itself? And then I kind of changed my
course in life because I wanted to do something a lot more
meaningful. So I share that because I'm the
lay person too. All right, I, I can't use words
I don't know because I wasn't taught in that school, but I can
use words that we would all understand because I come from
the same world as most, most people.
So, you know, you mentioned something of the world that you
come from and you're not really familiar with this.
And I will say they're not really different.
They're actually the same exact thing because, and I'll ask you,
I mean, we'll, we'll do this back and forth between me and
you and everybody watching can enjoy it.
What is your body made of? I mean, it starts with an A, you
know what I'm talking about. But what is your body and
everything else made of in this world?
Energy I would assume would be the energy you could say.
Atoms, let's say. Yeah, whatever.
It's all the same thing, but your first answer was 100%
accurate because the makeup of an atom.
And I'm breaking this down because I want to make it super
easy to understand. So the breakdown of an atom is
only .00001% matter. That means that 99.9999% of an
atom is not physical, it's made-up of energy.
And yet we're so focused in this world, focused on the .00001%,
but we're not focusing on the route that governs the physical
world. And that route is basically the
world of energy. Now, some people can call it the
spiritual woo stuff, and I'm definitely into that.
But I like it with a science to background, some sort of factual
background where we can ground it back into reality of how does
this work, right? How does it work to be able to
connect to the physical, but understanding it from an
energetic basis? Because if energy is what an
atom is predominantly made of, then energy is what we really
have to be paying attention to. Because it's those laws that
dictate everything else in this world that that's why I say it's
the same thing. Yeah.
How do you kind of toe the line between because like a lot of
people, you know, they, they're kind of turned off by the whole
woo woo, you know, mystical component of things.
And I'm very like, I come from a scientific background, so I'm
very analytical in nature and I just like, you know, hard facts,
but I'm open minded and receptive and I'm like totally
keen on learning the spiritual realm of things too.
But some people take this very crazy out there approach to
that. So it's like a turn off for
many. How do you kind of toe that line
and like, stay rooted from a place of reason?
I do the same thing you do. I can't.
I can't accept something without understanding it and logically
connecting the dots between them.
So I'll give you an example. When you hear the word chakra,
everybody's like, what the hell are you talking about?
That's woo woo. It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't exist. And eastern medicine will say
you have 7 different chakras. Western medicine will say that's
a whole bunch of nonsense. You have different organs in the
body, you have different systems in the body, the endocrine
system, pulmonary system, cardiovascular system, and so on
and so forth. And here's how we'll bridge the
gap. The first thing to to do to
bridge the gap to understand that they're not saying two
different things. They're just saying it in two
different ways. Almost like religion, right?
You have Jews and you have Muslims and you have Christians
and you have Buddhists and everybody has their own story.
But if you look at the essence and the principles of the story,
even though 1 uses Muhammad, the other one uses Moses, the other
one uses Jesus. It's saying the same exact
thing. It's just saying it in a
different way. So I'm saying the same thing is
happening with Eastern woo woo stuff and western accepted
stuff. So alternative medicine and
conventional medicine. The the foundation that we first
need to understand is the 2 philosophies by which each work.
So the guys on the Eastern side, thousands of years ago, come
from a perspective called holism, and the guys today on
the western side, the conventional side, come from a
perspective of reductionism. So back in the day, one person
was an expert in many things. So the physicist was also a
mathematician who was also an astronomer.
They knew a lot about a lot, and they were able to connect the
dots. Today we don't have that
anymore. Today we're specialists.
So people become so specialized in one thing that they don't
learn anything else. And then when the psychologist
speaks to the biologist, they don't really understand how to
connect the dots and how to bridge the gaps because they're
specialists in their own realms that in reality are
interconnected. But each one has been an expert
and become an expert in each specific discipline.
So the difference between holism and reductionism and how I'm
going to get back to the chakras to show you a perfect example,
is the following analogy or example.
Let's assume there are two screens.
Both screens are made-up of a lot of pixels, and on those
screens you have a picture. Now let's assume that each
screen has infinite pixels because in the world of reality
today, if everything is made-up of energy and energy, the first
law of thermite dynamics is energy cannot be created or
destroyed. That means that energy is
infinite by fact. That's a scientific fact.
So these two screens are made-up of infinite pixels showing the
same infinite picture, whatever that means.
Now the reductionist guys, the guys today look at the screen
and they say I want to become an expert in every single pixel on
the screen. Now they forgot that the screen
is infinite. You cannot become an expert in
something that never ends because you're just going to
keep going and going and going and going.
But they pursue that endeavor anyway.
So they become an expert in one pixel.
Let's call that pixel acne. And then because they've become
an expert in the pixel of acne, they create something called
Accutane. And accutane really does get rid
of acne. But because they weren't looking
at all the other pixels, it will destroy the pixel that we call
the liver. That's what side effects are.
It's reductionism. It's taking the whole and
breaking it down to its parts. So it's saying I've perfected
understanding this pixel at the expense of this pixel.
Accutane destroys the liver, this pill destroys the heart,
this pill destroys the the spleen, and so on and so forth.
Holism comes from a different perspective.
The Eastern guys say, listen, energy can't be created or
destroyed, and factually everything is made-up of energy.
So if everything is made-up of energy, and it is absolutely
infinite, why bother trying to know everything about something
that never ends? We're never going to get to the
end of it. So instead they said, let's just
understand the governing laws behind what dictates how this
screen operates and how all the pixels move together.
And that's what we call the laws of energy.
So like energy can't be created or destroyed.
Is one of them. The law of resonance?
It's how walkie talkies and radios work.
That's another one of them. So that states what you resonate
with is what you're going to experience.
Just like if there is a hip hop radio station on 97.1 FM, it's a
frequency modulation. I need to use the tuner to tune
to that frequency to be able to hear that hip hop channel.
That's the law of resonance. And we can go on and on.
But in essence, the way that this would relate to chakras is
and bridging the gap between what people call crazy and
making it something that's grounded and just fact and
scientific truth is thousands of years ago when they looked at
these seven different energy centers and identified them, all
they're saying is, or the question they're asking is not
how does the heart work on the deepest of all realms?
Because you'll never completely understand that on an individual
pixel level because it's connected to everything else.
All they wanted to know and the question they asked was from the
level of energy, what is the optimal frequency of the heart?
That's all they wanted to know and how they found it, I don't
know, but I know that they're right and I'll tell you why.
When they what they call the heart chakra, which sounds woo
woo, The conventional guys call the cardiovascular system and
the pulmonary system because in Eastern medicine, the heart
chakra that's identified as the color green is your heart and
your lungs on the map of the body.
Now why is it identified as the color green?
Look at the seven different energy centers or chakras, the
woo woo things. Is there an order of the
spectrum of color? Before anybody understood that
there was a spectrum of color. Red, orange, yellow, green,
blue, indigo, Violet color. Scientifically, as a wavelength,
it's the length of a wave measured in nanometers, meaning
it's an energy measured in nanometers.
So green is an energy measured in nanometers, and that energy
is something that your brain, that wavelength is something
that your brain decodes and projects as the color green.
That's what we call green. But all it is, is a wavelength.
It's a frequency. They were able to identify the
optimal frequency of each organ of the body and that's all the
chakra is. It's saying the cardiovascular
system and the pulmonary system, it's optimal frequency is what
we call the green color, which is a certain range of
nanometers. Take yellow.
Yellow is your digestive system. The woo woo guys call it the
solar plexus. The conventional guys call it
the digestive system. The color is roughly 540
nanometers. Now look at food if you want to
ground it into physicality, What foods are good for your
digestive system? And the answer is the ones that
target them are yellow ones. Bananas are very good for your
digestive system. Lemon in your water.
Rebalance, rebalance your digestive system.
Red, which is your root, which the conventional guys call
inflammation, circulation, blood flow.
What foods reduce inflammation? Raspberries, cranberries,
cherries, strawberries. Red Light therapy.
So color is a form of light. The woo woo guys are not that
woo woo because they just understood back then from a
holism perspective, what is the optimal frequency that each
organ operates at. And when we understand that
optimal frequency, we don't need to dive into the infinite, we
just need to understand its governing principles.
That's why red light therapy works.
That's why blue light therapy works.
That's why light is being used as a form of medicine.
Because we are made of light. We are literally, on a
scientific level, bodies of light.
Only light that you can't see in the visible spectrum in the
words that I'm talking about. And we're using certain
frequencies to synchronize the body with something that it
works in, in an optimal way. That's essentially one way to
bridge the woo woo to what's going on today.
It's a terminology crisis. They're not saying two different
things. This is totally off on a tangent
probably, but why do you think western society is so
reductionist in nature in the 1st place?
Like where does that stem from? I think it's a combination.
This is my opinion. I think it's a combination of
two things, a lack of knowledge and awareness.
And I also believe that it's done by design.
Because if you put yourself in, and I hope you're not one of
these people, I'm sure you're not one of these people if we're
having this conversation. But let's assume that you were a
psychopath and let's assume that you were an individual that
liked a lot of power and liked a lot of control.
You're going to do whatever you can to hold that power and
control. And we see it in the world
today. We see that it's profit over
people and not people over profit.
It's all about the stock price. It's all about the money.
That's what it comes down to at the end of the day.
Now, if you know one thing about really, really wealthy people,
and I'm not saying that wealthy people are bad people.
I come from a very wealthy family.
It's, it's not about bad people. There are people with a lot of
money that use it for bad purposes and there are people
with a lot of money that use it for good purposes.
But both of those people have something in common and there's
something in common that they have.
Is they all you? They will never use their
personal names to operate anything.
That's why you have corporations, that's why you
have trusts, that's why you have foundations.
That's how these things work. So let's go into the corporate
world to understand that more and why I'm sharing this in the
1st place. Coca-Cola is a very big company,
but Coca-Cola owns Nestle, owns Dasani, owns Snapple, and owns
like hundreds of other sub brands.
So we have this illusion that we're buying from all these
different companies when really they're all controlled by the
same mother corporation that's controlled by certain
individuals who are generally behind the scenes.
Now, the reason why I bring that up is because we could talk
about 1 here. One of them is called the
Rockefeller Foundation. The Rockefeller Foundation is
owned by the Rockefeller family. The Rockefeller Foundation, if
you look and do just a little bit of research into what
they're tied to, they are responsible for writing the
medical curriculum that is taught in medical schools in
this country and outside of this country.
They are also responsible for writing what's called the
Physician's Desk Reference. It's a book that comes out every
single year that doctors get if they order it.
That's basically a book of legal drug dealing.
So if you're a doctor and you have the PDR, you open the book
to the name of the diagnosis that your patient has, and it
tells you exactly what drugs to give.
And then the same people behind that foundation are also the
same people that are giving the doctors the drugs to give to the
patients. They're also the same people
that got those drugs mandated in certain countries around the
world for children to be able to go to school.
And they're also the same people that have enough ties in
government in Congress to be able to get Congress to pass an
act that says if you get hurt from our products, you can't sue
us. Now that, my friend, is a
perfect monopoly. But it's a monopoly that is used
for evil. It's not being used for good.
It's a monopoly used for power and control.
And now if you look from the perspective of the doctor,
they're in a really bad position because the average doctor is a
very good person and they go to school because they want to be
able to help people. They want to be able to help
people heal themselves around the world.
So the average Joe goes to school, goes to school for the
first four years of regular college, goes into student debt,
decides he wants to go to Med school, spends another six or
seven years in Med school in more debt.
By the time he's 28 years old, he gets a medical license.
He's also half $1,000,000 in debt.
And what he doesn't know is the same people who gave him the
loan are the same people who told him what he's going to be
taught in medical school, who are the same people that are
telling him what drugs they are he's going to give to his
patients. And that's the same people that
are telling him, well, if you do this, this, this, we're going to
pull your license away. So even if that average Joe
that's a doctor wakes up to the corruption that's going on in
the system by design, right? There are things that are, in my
opinion, then there's a design that we're seeing here.
Well, if that average Joe that's a doctor wakes up, he's got a
problem because what do you think happens if he speaks up?
They take his license away. If they take his license away,
he's half, $1,000,000 in debt. He has no way of paying it off.
So this guy is now basically chained and handcuffed
metaphorically to not be able to speak even if he sees a problem
because of how the system is built.
So to answer your question, because that was a a long one,
but to answer your question in in short and like a summary, I
think it's a combination of we lack knowledge and awareness and
I think it's also by design. Look at the food that we're
eating, look at the water that we're drinking.
It's dumbing us down 24/7. This world is becoming more and
more toxic by not the day, not the hour, the 2nd and people are
getting Dumber and Dumber. No, I totally agree.
How do you how do you prevent or hedge against just becoming
overly cynical as a human being knowing then?
It's a good question. It's a great question because,
you know, I don't live my life afraid of what I just said.
And I don't live my life looking at the world and saying what a
disgusting place. I actually live my life looking
at the world and saying this is such an incredible place and
look at the bodies that we're living in and look at the amount
of electricity that we have running through our bodies.
We have 3 trillion volts of electricity running through our
body at any given moment. That's an insane amount of
energy. So it actually gives me a little
bit of hope because if we got this far with the amount of
resistance that I just explained, how far can we get by
making people aware and knowledgeable of what's going on
so they don't take part in that anymore.
So there are some people in my shoes that are just like angry.
And I think I just channel it differently because I'm, I'm a
believer, again, from the perspective of energy, what's
the difference between anger and joy?
And the answer is a frequency. If I were to connect an EKG to
you, when you felt anger over joy, you would just see a
different modulation. It's the same energy expressed
differently. So that's kind of how I look at
the world as a whole. How do I take the really hard
things that are happening and channel it in a way that's
really positive? Yeah, no, I totally agree with
that. I feel like perspective is
everything. Like when you look at the
emotions of fear and the emotions of hope, like they
elicit the exact same physiological response for the
most part. Like it's all just and how you
approach it. So yeah, totally agree.
Totally agree. It's it's interesting stuff.
Bringing up speed on this pretty slick looking pyramid behind you
man. What am I looking at there?
Do you see it on the screen right now?
Yeah, yeah. Alrighty, so this.
Mesmerizing. Beautiful thing is what I like
to call medicinal art. So it's called the light system
and it's built on everything that I just said by the way.
So when I first looked at something like this, I'm like,
what? What the hell is color and light
going to do for me? And I think we answered half of
that question already because look, people are using light
therapy all around the world, but this is more than light
therapy. This is taking different
wavelengths of light and helping your body synchronize with that.
So think red light therapy, but on a much larger scale.
So like, I could do a lot of things to this thing right now.
I could change the colors. I can target different types of
frequencies. I could do a bunch of different
things simultaneously on this pyramid at the same time.
Now, the shape is more so for an aesthetic purpose and not this
one, but the main ones that the light system puts out there now
is in the direct proportion of the pyramid of Giza, which is
just a cool little fun fact. What you're looking at on the
screen, when I pause, it looks like a bunch of code and I can
take that code and I can translated.
I don't know if you'll be able to see it on this camera, but I
can translate it into English. So when I pause it, you may be
able to make out some words over there.
Now what you're looking at is based on a study done in the
1990s by a man named Doctor Masaru Emoto.
Dr. Masaru Emoto is a very or was because he's dead now, but
he was a very interesting man and he had a hypothesis.
He was a businessman. He turned into a scientist.
And his question was at the time, about 30 years ago, is it
possible for my thoughts, my words, my emotions, my
affirmations, whatever it is, is it possible for those things to
change the physical environment around me?
And everybody looked at him and they said, what the hell are you
talking about, dude? It's no, you can't do that.
Because to change something, you have to touch it.
It's physical. You can't do something like
that. And he said, you know, you may
be right, but you may be wrong, so let's do a study.
And he took two cups of water, 2 Petri dishes in this case.
This is a study Anybody can look up Doctor Masaru Emoto EMOTO,
the water experiment. And it's a very famous
experiment done over and over and over again.
I've done it myself. He took two Petri dishes of
water and to 1 he spoke very negatively towards and
everybody's looking at him like, dude, you're, you're weird.
Nothing's going to happen here. And the other one he spoke very
positively to. Now, I just want to preface on
this because this is important. The difference between some
people think you have to speak to have that outcome.
That's not true. The difference between a thought
and your speech is just the fact that you can hear one and you
can't hear the other. But they're both frequencies
that both impact the environment, and Emoto proved it
to us. The negative water that we'll
call the negative Petri dish, he froze and put it under a
molecular microscope to see the molecular formation of that
water. Because if he's using water as
the medium to be able to decide what happens and how do things
change, the way that he's measuring it is, is there a
difference between the bad cup and the good cup in the
molecular formation of water? And can I repeat that over and
over and over again? So he took the water in both.
He froze them after he did his negative and positive thoughts,
words, affirmations, beliefs and so on.
And he looked at it under a molecular microscope.
And what he found time and time again is that in the negative
oriented water, the molecular structure of water was always
distorted. It was always disgusting.
There was no order to it whatsoever.
But in the good Petri dish, it was always like a snowflake.
It was always some sort of coherent geometric structure.
Now, why is that important? Because, number one, what he
showed through that study is that just through your words,
just through your thoughts, water will respond and change
its molecular structure. We as human beings happened to
be made-up of over 70% water. We conduct electricity through
that water and when somebody gets sick or experienced
disease, which is a dis ease, it's a dis ease of energy moving
through the body, meaning energy and electricity is not moving
properly. Well, think about it like a
hose. If you have a hose that's all
kinked up and you try to get water through it, it's not going
to end very well. But if you have a hose that's in
perfect formation where water can flow, it's going to flow
beautifully. The water in your body and its
structure are the pipes that have electricity moving through
it. Think about it like that.
And if the water in your body is structured in a coherent way,
energy and electricity will move.
It will not get stuck, and therefore you will experience
health. When the structures of water in
your body, the pipes are all messed up, like the hose that we
said, the electricity and the energy cannot move coherently.
That's called the dis ease of energy.
You end up getting sick. Now, why does what he said work
on the level of its mechanism? How does that happen?
And one of the laws of energy that I proved to you as well,
it's called the law of synchronization.
The law of synchronization is the reason why women synchronize
their menstrual cycles. They're not giving it from one
woman to another. It's not contagious.
I think everybody understands that one.
So if it's not contagious, how is it that women are getting
their their periods at the same time?
And the answer is because they are synchronizing with their
environment and therefore having a synchronized expression.
Another example, people that live around cell phone towers
statistically have higher rates of cancer.
And it's not because the cell phone tower is evil, it's
because the cell phone tower radiates specific frequencies.
Your body works on specific frequencies, and when your body
starts synchronizing with frequencies that are
incompatible to it, it creates A distortion.
Another example with this bottle, to make it real easy, if
this bot was connected to something that kept it at 100°F
all the time, and I took water at 40°F and poured it into the
bottle, what's going to happen? The water is going to increase
to 100°F because of synchronization.
It's called homeostasis balance. Same thing with what's going on
over here. Same thing with what Emoto
shared. If I were to take the word love
and put it on this bottle of water, as funny as it sounds,
there are studies that show over and over again is that energy
and intention behind that word holds a certain frequency to it.
That frequency will be embedded on the water, just like the
water will change its temperature based on the
temperature of the container. Only instead of using
temperature, we're using the energy that you're putting on
the container. It's the same thing expressed
differently. It's all science back.
It's just expressed in a different way.
So in this case, this is the container.
You're the water and when you go around it, it is imprinting its
energy onto you for you to synchronize with.
It's based on a science called Cymatics.
Cymatics spelt with AC. Have you ever seen rob the the
videos on Instagram or Facebook where somebody takes the salt or
the sugar and they put it on the metal and they vibrate the metal
and it makes a shape? That's called cymatics.
It's the shape of sound. Every sound has a shape to it.
Every frequency has a shape to it.
A word like the word love or the word hate has a frequency to it
and therefore has a shape to it. That shape was expressed in
emoto scientific studies through the shape of the molecular
formation of water. This is doing the same exact
thing. So beyond the color, beyond the
energetic fields that it's creating through this
technology, the affirmations are literally impacting your body
just like they impact the water because your body is made-up of
primarily. And I'm assuming you could just
change the, the structure, the color formatting, the cadence
based off of what emotion or energy or vibe you're trying to,
you know, target at the moment. Like if you're about to go to
the gym, you're probably going to have a different color scheme
and pattern that if you're about to relax for the evening or
something. So gym would be more red
focused. For example, if you're looking
to target your heart and your lungs, it would be more green
focused because that's the optimal frequency of those
organs. Now that's just the color
aspect. I can also change the
affirmations on the screen. So now the affirmation of
something focused on your kidney will have a different outcome
than a focus on your heart. You can change that too based on
emoto's work. So it gives you the ability to
target what you're looking for without you having to
continuously put effort into doing it because it's running it
for you. There were 16 different main
programs on the technology and an infinite amount of how you
can change that those affirmation.
So like in a use case scenario, you just travel with that
everywhere you go, you have it in the room and you're trying to
have that just as a constant in your day-to-day activities.
So for me, I mean, they're Wellness centers that have this
all around the world. They're Wellness centers that
have technologies like this in general all around the world on
a network that I personally found it and I run, we have
about 500 Wellness centers around the world.
So anytime I'm traveling, no matter what country it's in, I'm
traveling generally to one of those centers that have a
technology like this to be able to speak and lecture.
So no matter where I am, for the most part, I'm always around it.
But the best way to use something like this would be to
really sleep around it because it's like, I mean, I like doing
things that I can do while I'm doing other things so I don't
have to, you know, just stacking things on top of each other so
it's more efficient. And if I can do something while
I sleep and it helps recharge my cells because that's part of
what this is doing. It's increasing cellular
millivoltage by increasing mitochondrial activity.
So it's helping your cells increase the amount of
electricity it's producing. When you have more of that, you
have more energy to help the body heal itself.
So sleeping around it is key. And I've seen some incredible,
incredible things come out of it with my own personal family.
And if you're sleeping right, you don't have to be obviously
looking at it visually. So just having it in the room
now with me recording this remotely in Arkansas while
you're in Florida, like am I getting any benefit by it being
visually, you know, there in the screeners maybe relevant to me?
Maybe, but I can't. I don't know how to answer that
one scientifically. There's no like study on that.
My, my gut and my logic would say you're already doing it
through a camera. Maybe there's some effectiveness
in terms of the intentionality aspect, but it's like seeing
something over a camera versus being in the room with it.
There's, there's a difference. Now there are some people like
I've put up transmissions with this technology on YouTube and
there are some people that have some pretty awesome experiences,
but the vast, vast majority, it's happening when you're in
the. Got you, got you.
I know you're, I mean, you're going to these events that have
that technology, like if you were to take a week without it
at all, like what, what kind of feedback are you getting if
you're totally without it? Amazing.
And I'll tell you why, because here's the goal with this thing.
The goal with this thing is to get to a point where you never,
ever, ever need to use it again. And the way to do that is by
understanding that you are the technology, like everything this
was doing, you could do yourself.
The problem is, in the world that we're living in right now,
we do have a lot of resistance points and things that are
mitigating that process. Like for example, the sun gives
you vitamin D, but like our skies are sprayed with a bunch
of garbage and there's a lot of problems there.
So we take vitamin D supplements and the goal is to get to a
point where you never need to take the vitamin D supplement
because your body is just creating in itself.
Same thing with this technology. You can look at it in essence,
it like as an analogy or comparison, like the same thing
as a vitamin D supplement. The goal is to get to a point
where we never need it again. Now, just to make this real
clear, because this is important.
If anybody thinks you're just going to walk in and you're
going to have this magical experience and then you're going
to leave and then you're going to go eat McDonald's and drink
Coca-Cola, it's not going to happen.
Meaning you need to take not the reductionism approach, but the
holism approach. Your food needs to change.
It needs to be healthier. It needs to be real food.
You can't be eating out of plastic bags.
Your water needs to be clean. It can't have chlorine, it can't
have fluoride. It needs to be real clean, pure,
structured water. Your thoughts need to be clear.
Your stress, all of, I mean, the breath, the oxygen you bring
into your body, that's where meditation comes in.
Whoa or not. I mean, it's coming down the
nervous system. You're taking a moment to
breathe. So I do all those things all the
time anyways, with or without this.
I'm not always around it and I don't, it's not something that I
live my life of like, Oh my God, I'm not around the light system.
No, what am I going to do? You know what I mean?
It's that's not at all how I live and not at all how I hope
other people live. It's a tool to help along the
way. It's a stepping stone to get you
to what I would call your highest potential as a human
being. There are many things to do
alongside it. Walking barefoot on the beach,
it's a beautiful thing to do. Swimming in the ocean is a
beautiful thing to do. Be a human again, right?
We're living in like these concrete fake things.
I mean, look, look where I am and look where you are.
Nothing about this is natural. It's cool.
We could talk, but nothing about this is natural.
So the more we can just connect a little bit and reignite that
electricity in our body, that's what walking barefoot does.
It's also a scientific backed way of being able to ground
yourself to this planet because the Earth has a charge and you
have a charge. And by walking barefoot without
the plastic shoes, you're actually increasing that charge.
So all those things, clean food, clean water, I would do that all
the time. And there are a lot of people
that don't have this in their home.
Most people actually don't, and they go to the Wellness centers
and they go and experience it at Wellness centuries during them.
So I see it as a stepping stone, not an ultimate destiny.
The ultimate reality is how do we just come back to ourselves
and how do we reignite that incredible, incredible
technology that we call the human body?
Yeah, it's, it does seem like that's been dormant in us for so
long now. I mean, like we're just pacified
by all the noise that we're inundated with the current day
and age. I mean, like it's, it's easy to
become soft, it's easy to just become complacent and mediocre.
And like there's very little real human connection anymore to
like we, I mean, social media is great, Being able to talk to you
across the country is great. But like just simply connecting
with people in your own neighborhood across the street
from you. Like I feel like we miss out on
that opportunity so much. And I feel like that's where the
real energy can be found. It's true.
Everybody's on their phones. Everybody's there are pros and
cons to everything. We could be a lot more
efficient, but we're more efficient with less quality
today and we eat more with less nutrition today and we have more
of everything and somehow less of all of it.
It's this weird thing that we've created in this world and it's
only going to go two ways. It's either we're going to
destroy ourselves, or we're going to learn from our mistakes
and fix them, or a combination of both.
Yeah, I don't try to be cynical at all, but I feel like there's
almost kind of like this implosion point where like
something catastrophic happens in order for people to wake up
to the reality of the trend that they're on cannot be sustained
for forever. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't.
Know well, I mean what you're saying is, is what I would call
a law. So I mean look at it from a
logical standpoint. Let's say me and you are in a
home and you're sleeping and I'm awake and the home is on fire
and me and you were connected. What happens to you happens to
me and I say me and you were connected because on on not a
spiritual level also, but on a scientific level, energy can't
be created or destroyed. It's all one continuous thing
going on with different expressions.
Me and you are literally connected.
We are, whether anybody likes it or not, no matter how far we are
from one another, there is an interconnectivity going on here.
So with that, if you're in the house and the house goes on fire
and you're sleeping, and if you die, I die, I need to wake you
up. So I'm going to start shaking
you and say, Rob, wake up and you're not waking up.
So what am I going to do next? I'm going to get more aggressive
and you're not waking up and I'm going to keep getting more and
more and more aggressive until you wake up.
And you may wake up with a broken nose and a black eye.
And if you didn't know that there was a fire in the house,
you're going to be mad at me and say, Jason, why did you punch me
in the face? Why did you break my nose?
But if you knew the fire was in the house, when you wake up,
you're going to say thank you. You're going to say thank you
for waking me up. Because if you didn't wake me
up, I wouldn't have made it out of here.
And that's exactly what's going on in the world today.
So I don't think it's cynical. I think it's the opposite.
The worst things that happened to us in the world are the most
necessary things in order to wake us up.
And if we choose not to wake up from those things, they're going
to get louder. And that happens on an
individual level and it happens on a collective level.
For me, it started with this shoulder dislocating once and
then twice, and then the third time and it happened 23 times
and I got 3 shoulder surgeries by the age of 18.
I needed to get him. I almost needed to get a
mechanical shoulder by the age of 18, which is insane.
I was a sling. I was in a sling for 10% of my
life by the age of 18, on my dominant arm, my left hand.
From there, I still wasn't listening to the message of
Jason. You're not on the right path
here. You got to change.
You got to do things differently.
You came here for a different purpose.
So what happened next? I got a staph infection in my
leg and almost killed me. I was in the hospital for a very
long time, between the ages of 14 to 18 years old.
It happened to me very young and that's when I understood and it
happened to me in a in more of a spiritual experiment.
So it didn't start with logic. Logic came later of how to
connect the dots. But there was this realization
that I had of I'm not a victim to what's going on here and it's
not a punishment what's going on here either.
It's a blessing. It's a gift that I'm trying to
be be given. And for me to sit in the
hospital almost dead and say thank you was the biggest life
changing moment I've ever experienced because I suddenly
realized that none of this is happening to me.
It's happening for me. Everything here is happening for
us. Because if everything is
interconnected, just like you're not going to take a hammer and
break your own leg, this one thing that's interconnected,
call it God, call it source, call it conscious, call it
energy, call it Jesus, call it whatever.
I don't care what you call it. But the thing that we don't know
what to call, that everybody has a different name for, that makes
up everything, is the thing that we're all a part of.
And that thing would never do anything to hurt itself, just
like you would not take a hammer and break your own leg.
So I had that realization that brought me to the point of logic
after it didn't start logically. It started as whoa.
And it happened through a lot of trauma.
And I mean, that's the path that I've been on for a very long
time now. That's that's what I do today.
It started from something that was in my life catastrophic. 3
months ago, my dad died. He died in my arms, bleeding
out, and I was covered in his blood.
You know what a traumatic experience that is.
And I'm going to sit here and tell you, and he was only 62
years old, unexpected. I'm going to sit here and tell
you that there was a gift in his passing.
There was a gift in what I got to experience in that moment
with my dad dying with my his blood all over me, in my arms.
When you get to that point, there's nothing that can take
you down anymore because you see the world in a different way.
Because the beauty, the gift that I got to receive from the
death of my own father in the way that I just explained just
now in March was the fact that I got to see very clearly somebody
that I love move out of their body.
And I say move out of their body because I don't know if you've
ever seen somebody very, very close to you die right in front
of your eyes. But I saw the light coming out
of his eyes. Suddenly the eye started getting
a lot more faded until it looked like he had blurred vision, but
he was dead. I got to feel and really see,
not just in this mental point, but right in front of me.
I got to truly experience the difference between my father and
my father's body. And there's nothing spiritual or
woo woo. There's maybe something
spiritual about it, but there's nothing woo woo about that when
you see it. Because I got to see, I got to
feel, I got to understand the fact that energy can't be
created or destroyed. And I literally saw it leave his
eyes. So 12 hours later, when I buried
his body, I buried his body. I didn't bury him.
And it helped me deal with it in such a different way because I
was able to move forward and go through this path with him in a
different relationship. Now some may call that a coping
mechanism. To me, it's law, it's a fact.
That's how things work. My point for sharing this is
when you change your relationship with how you see
certain things, when you understand certain fundamental
building blocks of how things actually work, not what I think.
Not this woo woo thing that no one understands.
Everything spiritual can be grounded in something physical
because they're reflections of each other.
You just need to know where to look and when you can do that,
that's really how you master this life.
That's what this technology is based on.
It's based on natural law. It's not based on somebody's
genius. It's based on the genius of this
creation of life and it just put it into a technology.
What do you call it? Like when you were rattling off,
you know, spirituality, religion, faith, Jesus,
whatever. Woo, woo, what?
What do you call? It I don't call it.
You don't call it. I don't call it because I can't
call, because to call something something is to limit it of all
other things. When you know something, can you
know Infinity? No, you can't.
It never ends. So if the reason why I, I give
all the terms is because everybody likes calling it
something, call it whatever. I don't care what you call it,
right? I'm not, I'm not identifying it
with anything. I really, I don't even know what
the hell to call it. I mean, what is it?
You know, what is this thing? How are we talking right now?
I mean, think about it for a second.
How am I talking? And you're understanding what's
coming out of my mouth. It's the craziest thing in the
world. And you can give me the
scientific Yeah, you have the brain and the synapse and the
no. How does it actually work at the
base of it all? And when you understand that
it's infinite, there is no base of it all, and therefore I can't
call it. I just know that it exists.
I can respect that for sure. It's like there's a lot of
people that are in denial to that something existing.
Kind of go back to the reductionist theory because I
mean, I come from a family of, you know, very bad book
scientific thinkers, academics and I I respect their intellect,
but it's like there's this emptiness or void there because
they can't explain this thing that we're talking about right
now at. The more they try, the more
they'll fail. You cannot explain something
that's infinite. You can only understand its
governing laws. That's all you could do.
Now. I mean, take an atheist.
It's not that they don't believe in God.
I mean, I don't believe in God. I know that there's something
here. I don't have to believe in
anything. I mean, look, look around you.
There's something going on here. There's an order to something.
That's not a belief, it's a fact.
But an atheist just has a different word.
The thing that they don't believe in is the type of
definition that the Jew or the Christian or the Muslim gives
them. That's what they don't believe
in. But what they say is that there
was The Big Bang and, you know, these atoms or whatever collided
and created. OK, cool.
I don't care what you call it. There was something that came
out of something, and that something must have come out of
something. And it comes to a point where we
can keep asking that question until it never ends.
And that thing that never ends, whether you call it God or not.
I'm not talking about a man in the sky that punishes you.
I'm talking about an order and an intelligence of the world.
And whether you're a scientist, an atheist, or a devout
religious person, you can't argue that one.
There's an order here. Yeah, an order that I don't
think can be explained through randomized chance over enough
time. Disorder is simply the
boundaries of where our awareness ends, and that's
something that I was taught by a dear friend of mine, Robert
Edward Grant. Entropy is simply the
limitations of where our current awareness ends.
And the example he gives, which I'll give today, it's a great
one, an interview I did with him, I don't even remember how
he said it, but I'll give you the, the principle, something to
do with a circle and π and how you get π the 3.14, which I
think is the circumference of every circle to its diameter or
something like that is π So there's a relationship between
the circumference of a circle and the diameter of a circle.
No matter how big or small that perfect circle is, doesn't
matter the diameter. The relationship between what I
believe to be, if I'm remembering correctly, between
the diameter of the circle or the radius and the circumference
of the circle is π. Now before they knew that, they
just called it random. And then the awareness expanded
and they learned what π was, which is that relationship.
So it used to be chaos and it turned into order.
That means that there is no such thing as disorder.
Disorder is simply order that we don't understand.
Yeah, yeah, No, I like that, man.
Where, where do you feel people fall short in being receptive to
this kind of information? Like where, where is their
bottleneck A roadblock? Like what?
What is? What is limiting you from making
an impact and and and just relaying this message to the
masses? You've heard of the ego before,
and the ego's not a bad thing so long as you master it.
If what is? Being a master of the ego and a
servant to the ego mean servant to the ego means you allow it to
take over you. It controls you, you don't
control it. What is the ego?
The ego is the part of you that only lives in this physical
world. So when a bear is chasing you,
you don't understand the OR the ego doesn't understand the law
of thermodynamics. The first one, energy can't be
created or destroyed. Because if it did, now let's go
just a little spiritual for a second.
Or the laws of energy. You know what makes me laugh
about scientists a lot? Maybe your family too.
They'll tell you reincarnation doesn't exist and yet they
proved it themselves. And I'll tell you how they prove
it themselves. Energy can't be created or
destroyed. If energy can't be created or
destroyed, then the energy that makes up your body must
decompose in order to recompose. And we see trees do it all the
time and turn into mushrooms. Now you want to say my soul goes
into this body and I turn into an octopus?
I don't know that one, right? That's not what I'm saying here.
I don't know the mechanism by which it works, but by
scientific fact and by energetic law, reincarnation must exist,
because all it's saying is that energy can't be created or
destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Therefore, me as Jason, you as Robert, at some point will die,
the body will decompose, and the energy will transform.
It's not going to die. It can't.
It's going to decompose in order to recompose it to something
else. So back to the ego.
The ego believes the reductionist standpoint of
things. That's how it's wired.
And it's wired that way to be your defense in dangerous
situations when a bear is chasing you.
If your soul was just like, Oh yeah, you know, I mean, death
doesn't exist, then you're never going to run.
The ego thinks it exists. It comes from that perspective
and it says run as fast as you possibly can, get the adrenaline
pumping and get the hell out of there.
That's the job of the ego. It's to keep you alive.
However, we're no longer living in that world of physical
survival anymore. We're living in a different
world now. So now the ego takes on certain
evolutions. So now it starts believing
certain things. You're being stressed by certain
things that like you're being a servant to.
The ego likes knowing things because it gives itself closure.
Because in what world? I mean, it's very uncomfortable
for people to sit there and say I'm OK with not knowing.
It's very uncomfortable because the ego needs to know because
it's a defense mechanism. If it doesn't know something,
it's in a state of danger. I mean, look at your family.
My family's the same way. Some of them, my uncle if he and
he's heard many times of things that I shared, but he's he can't
go there. And I look at him and I try and
reverse engineer because there's no judgement there.
I love him to death and I look at him and I'm like, OK, so you
have a belief system. You're secure with the belief
system. I am challenging the belief
system. You don't like the challenge and
therefore you refute what's being said.
That's all that's going on here. Because what would happen if
your family listened to or not just listen, but accepted the
things that they're basically proving themselves but don't
want to accept? What that would mean for them is
they would need to take their entire belief system and shift
it. That's a very, very scary thing
for the ego to do. And for that reason, you got to
understand where they're coming from.
Most people will not do that. Most people will just sit there
and say it's easier to say you're wrong and keep living my
life because most people agree with me.
But what if most people are wrong?
Yeah, that's, that's a very frustrating thing.
They would totally dismantle their identity in so many ways,
which is why they're so defensive.
But it's like, I don't know, man.
Like for me, I just want to know the truth, you know?
And I'm totally fine being open and receptive and being proven
wrong if I am wrong, you know, But like, I feel like having
this, you know, being attached to something at the hip with
this ball and chain of your identity and ego through a false
testament, It's like that's not serving anybody.
That's not serving you. You just have to be willing to
be wrong and hear different perspectives.
I think the word you just, the word you just used is, is, I
mean it, it hits it perfectly. The ego identifies with beliefs
and when you or one goes against those beliefs, if the ego is
identified with them and you allow yourself to be identified
with them, then if I attack the belief, I'm in essence attacking
you. That's I think the foundational
problem here, identification with belief, because what if the
belief is false? I mean, look at look at Einstein
versus Newton and Newton says time is absolute.
Einstein said time is relative. You know how long it took for
people to accept what he was saying because professors for
years and years and years were teaching.
That time is absolute. So what do they have to do?
They have to accept that all the years that they taught all these
students and all the studies that they've ever done are
false. That's difficult.
The deeper you identify with it, the harder it is to walk away
from. I think we have to be careful
what we build our identity on, you know, like, like we get so
hung up on who we are as individuals and we what we can
hang our hat on and, and that truly can set us up for the
worst downfall. But if we're really selective in
who we identify as from a character stamp, like if you're,
if you're putting, placing your identity on, you know, good
character values, then you're kind of insulated from all that
nonsense. Well, I, I also think that if
you identify with because there are productive things to
identify with beyond values, if you can identify with the
ability to not need to identify with everything, absolutely
you're in a good position. If you can be comfortable with
being uncomfortable, you're in a good position.
I think that's, that's part of the equations to success over
here of understanding how the ego works and then mastering it
because it's going to fight. You just need to know how to
center it, how to ground it and how to use it.
Because the ego is also a very good thing, right?
It's going to it's going to keep you alive and dangerous
situations. It's also going to keep you
motivated to do things in this physical world.
So let's say on a spiritual level, you really feel in your
heart you want to build a foundation to help homeless
children, whatever, something like that.
Well, that's coming from the heart, but what's going to
execute it? Not the heart.
The ego's going to be the one that has to read all the legal
paperwork, put together the foundation, get the EIN number.
When somebody sues you or comes after you, the ego's going to be
the one that's coming from a place of you're coming after me,
let's go, let's make this happen.
So there's a productive part of the ego as well.
So long as you're using it and it's not using you, I think it
can bring you to a great place. But unfortunately, most of the
world is is in the opposite way right now.
Yeah. What do you struggle with?
What gets, what has you excited? Like when you look at what's on
the horizon for you, Like what is the biggest questions that
you're trying to solve personally?
That's such a good question. I'll give you my what drives me
and then maybe it will evolve into what you just asked because
that's a deep question. What drives me and what I want
to see in this world is something that I know is
possible. So there's faith there for sure.
And there's this knowingness as well.
And it's a combination of both. I hate the fact that this world
is so sick because it is. There's a lot of people that
like, it's simple stuff that we should know at this point and we
don't. And it's LED us down a crazy
path. And what hurts me is seeing
people that are going down a path or have gone down a path is
that have damaged them in a way and they don't understand how to
get out of it. And most people just say, well,
take this pill or, you know, all you have to do is this.
It bothers me, and it bothers me because of the system of how
it's built, which we spoke about, which I wouldn't say I
want to dismantle because I think if I focus too much on
that, it's going to strengthen that thing.
So instead, I'm doing my best to build something new.
I want to build a new path for when people are ready to be able
to see a different way, a way that the current path is
actually based on meaning alternative medicine is not
alternative. It's the source of what
everything comes from. The thing that's alternative are
the things that we use today, but we call it conventional.
What's really going on here? And this is part of what in a
way it comes from a place of being pissed off, to be honest,
of of why I want to make the changes that I want to make.
I mean, take Advil. Advil is a synthetic version of
the Willow bark tree. It comes from the Willow bark
tree. But you can't patent something
that occurs naturally in nature. So what do you do?
You take something that occurs naturally in nature, the real
medicine, you create a synthetic version of it and add some
chemicals to it. You call that your patent.
And then you have an exclusive for the next 20 years to be able
to sell it for exorbitant amount of money.
And not only that's what's going on, but they're giving us
something that doesn't work as well.
So what I'm trying to figure out here is I don't want to reach,
I've reached a lot of people, not enough people.
The 1,000,000 is not what I'm going for.
I my question is how do we reach 1 billion, two billion, 3
billion, four billion people? Because they reached them the
other way. They reached them and they
brainwashed the hell out of this planet.
And if we simply have not a campaign that's going to change
everything overnight. But I believe that if we're
persistent enough, and I see this, the direction that the
world is going, maybe slower than I'd like, but it's going,
if we're persistent enough and bring more truth to the world,
even the people that don't want to accept it will eventually
come to terms with it. Because if it's true, nothing
can change that. So what I struggle with?
Is how do I reach even more people?
How do I, how do I connect even more people to their, to their
true selves or help them connect to their true selves?
How do I get even more people to start thinking for themselves in
a world where everybody's living paycheck to paycheck and has two
to three jobs? That's a really hard thing
because we're doing so in a system that makes what I'm
saying almost impossible. But I don't believe it's
impossible. I just think it's hard and I
also believe that will suffer. I feel like all the information
that we need is already there. Like we all inherently know
these truths. I mean, when I look at like my
wheelhouse with nutrition, you know, I can go down the freaking
rabbit hole about macronutrient partitioning and, you know,
hormone regulation, metabolism. But like, at the end of the day,
if people just simply ate real food that was nutrient dense and
removed all the noise, they'd be better off.
All this information coming out about light therapy, circadian
rhythm, like get outside first thing in the morning, watch the
sunrise, watch the sunset, be barefoot.
I mean, all this stuff can be distilled down to such a simple
essence when it comes to the Petri dishes of water, like
having positive thoughts and vibes that it just put, you
know, project from you that makes total sense.
It's going to have a positive impact on those around you.
It's like we have the information at our fingertips.
So we already inherently know what it is.
I don't feel like we're at a loss of information.
We're just at a wedding through all that noise that's there
distracting. The truth is the the issue that
we face, it seems. 100%, there's nothing new under the sun.
Everything that I've shared is not mine.
It's been around for a very long time.
I just take it and I do my best to kind of reach exactly what
you're talking about. How do we take it and explain it
in a simpler way, in a layperson way without all the big words,
in a way that a 5 year old can understand is that's why I
continuously try to do. And I think we just got to keep
moving forward like we're on a good path.
Don't get me wrong, people are going to get hurt, right?
It's not, I'm not saying it in a cynical way, I'm just being
real. People are going to die, people
are going to get sick. It's part of life.
It's all good. My goal is to make it a smaller
part of life, right? Where we don't have to deal with
things that are unnecessary. But sometimes if you're too deep
asleep, you're going to have to be shaken.
And sometimes shaking looks like cancer.
It's not a punishment, it's a blessing to get you to ask
yourself, why is this happening for me?
What is the silver lining? And let's take this seriously as
a challenge head on. Let's beat it and then let's
teach the world how to do it. If we just did that with all our
problems, this world would be so much better.
Yeah, that that's the best way to look at it, man.
Like that's when you shoulder the responsibility.
You carry that weight. It's like, it's scary, but it's
so much more empowering. I mean, you feel capable as
opposed to, you know, having the world happening to you, It's
happening for you. That's just a total mindset
shift can be kind of like the hope and fear thing.
It's just all in how you look at it.
So 100% agree on all fronts brother.
Awesome man, you're a cool dude. I I I enjoy my time with you.
Likewise likewise, where do I find out more about you?
Dive deep into your world. What's all the the social plugs,
all that good stuff. So just my name, Jason Shirka,
the real Jason Shirk on Instagram.
One of the big things that we work on is right behind me,
Unified. So we have Unified TV.
It's a very entertaining and educational video streaming
platform. So we got a lot of things on all
the topics that we just spoke about.
Lots of movies, documentaries, shows, series, workshops, all of
that's on Unified TV and Unified Healing is where you can find
technologies like this and really just energy based leading
technologies around the world. So Unified healing.com is where
you can find hundreds of centers probably near you.
It's in 55 countries and it's growing every single day.
Very cool, man. Well, I'll definitely link out
and make it easy for people to find you.
And if you're ever in Arkansas, man, hit me up.
Let me know. Sounds good man.
Thank you.