What's going on ladies and gents?
Robert Sykes keto, Savage.com and today I've got special guest
in good friend, Jake Thomas on the line Jake and I have worked
together in the past. He and I were about to do a
competition prep together and then he came to me and started
totally switch gears and dive deep into his self, honestly
working on something that he's been deep into improving.
His own, outlook on life, improving his his perspective,
his perception, his career path, his trajectory and I'm freaking
excited about what the future holds for me.
Got nothing but good things come in, he is motivated, he's
driven, he is intense, and he is doing things for the right
reason. We dive deep into Mind Set On
This wise and gents. If you are in a place in life,
where you feel stuck or you feel like you are facing resistance
at the world throws at you. Are you feel like you're being
held to societal standards that are not in line with your own
personal Endeavors and passions? This is the podcast for you.
We dive into Nutrition a little bit but honestly this is more so
about uncovering what needs to be uncovered in your mind.
To level up in life and reach the next degree of satisfaction,
fulfillment and success. So I thoroughly enjoyed the
conversation. I'm always a huge fan of these
mindset talks. I've got no doubt that you'll
take something from this, so that for their do sit back,
relax and enjoy the podcast with Jake Thomas, And we are loved
Jake away, brother. Man, it's good to be back, Rob's
been a while, it's been a while. So we had you on the podcast and
it's been a few years, I think. And then you reach back out to
me a few months ago and we started working together again
and you were going to do a prep and then the world got turned
upside down and you just had like a whole nother level of
intensity, but it wasn't towards the prep, which I totally
respect. And I want to dive into that,
man, because I think that that's got me excited.
I want to See where you're headed in life because I feel
like you're motivated and that just gets me a up brother.
Oh man, thank you. Yeah, that our first time was
isn't 2020. Mmm.
So there was quite a while ago. You know, it's really deep into
my exploration of carnivore diet.
It started in June. I think when we spoke as if
probably November somewhere later in the year and I was
already well into that and trying to disprove it.
You knows second-guessing so much of it.
I was breaking away from the standard American.
Bro, bodybuilding science. And, you know, If It Fits your
Macros world and constantly just this can't be right, this can't
be right all this fat, you know, it was hard for me to understand
but the more I did it, the more feeling became the
understanding, right? Not what I thought, I knew not,
what I had read. Now, what I learned snot with my
ego and my pride and my experience at all, granted me
but you know, I started just listening to my feelings and my
intuition. And the more that I did that,
the better I felt. And the better I felt better and
the better, you know? And so here, we are a few years
later now, and yeah, I've been 90.
I don't know what percent, you can call it animal base since we
last spoke since June of twenty. Twenty a couple of steps here
and there, like I said, it's not about being a Absolutists in the
form of my way or the highway, I'm right?
I have to tell everybody beating my chest, I'm thinking myself
more as a scientist and as a, any great scientist.
It's not about trying to prove that you're right.
But it's rather about trying to constantly disprove your
hypothesis. Yeah.
And to try and nitpick yourself for error infallibility and
that's what I try. I've been trying to do these
last three years is constantly, try and disprove.
This hypothesis of this being the optimal way in my opinion,
again Theory to live and to eat. And I keep trying to disprove
it, but it keeps, you know, doing the opposite to me and in
regards to our prep, yeah, I felt the calling to it back on
the stage, you know, when you, and I spoke earlier this year, I
was fired up, man. Your know, you weren't a short
of right on that. Yeah.
I just finished your book actually and which is a great
read. Anybody that hasn't read it.
You know? Rob my hat's off to you.
And how much I've spoken favorably about you is being
probably one of the if not the authorities in the ketogenic
bodybuilding World, Rob's knowledge, his passion, and your
understanding of the science of the body in particular with the
key to Genex, it was awesome and it was really in depth well
written. And it was a good read an easy
read. For me.
But, yeah, that really got me fired up.
I said, you know, let me give this one more crack and to do it
as a carnivore, you know, to show people more that this can
be done, just like when they said, I couldn't do it as a
vegan, you know, placed top three in the world natural
bodybuilding championships. In, 2019 is a vegan and to do it
as a carnivore, which I think would be another step on top of
that to just show that it can be done especially against all the
Great. You know, needing Dogma that
says we have to have those things and to be able to say no
you don't and to be able to show it would have been a really
really cool thing. But then I had something else
called me more strongly and it's something that's been on my mind
and in my heart for years, almost 10 years now, and
something that I've been slow dosing out with clothes.
Friends, family and distant acquaintances all over the world
and it's been about health. It's been coaching.
It's been nutrition. It's been mindset.
It's been Just to feel better. And I have been, like I said
doing this on small scale for almost 10 years, but it's never
what I wanted to do. And I'd always kind of ran from
it because I did not like what I saw.
The definition of a coaches being.
I did not like what I attributed as a character of being a
trainer or someone who teaches in that regard.
I didn't like the idea of it. I didn't like the appeal.
I thought I was a corporate guy. I thought it was a suit and tie
guy. I thought I was, you know, high
and luxury real estate guy and I needed the clothes and I needed
the things and the items and materialism to make me feel
whole But it's really the character and your choice of how
to portray that and how you act of live that to create the words
or the description of that character.
And finally, I had an epiphany after you know, helping people
having too many people ask me having this demand, really, of
what I feel like was the world trying to talk to me and convey
messages to me of saying, like, people are asking you for help,
man. And you're being too proud or
too selfish or two, just afraid to do it.
And when I finally sat down and strip myself down and looked
into the mirror and saw who I needed to be, Not just for them.
But for myself, you know, to become the man that I needed in
my life to become the man, I need to be in my life.
I felt my head. My hands was like, oh God, don't
tell me, that's, that's what I have to do.
You know? That's, that's the work that
that's in front of me. That's the commitment that's in
front of me. I was terrified, but at the same
time I was so happy and elated because ever since I got out of
the Marine Corps, I've been looking for a sense of Pride and
purpose that is. That's a milk.
You know where every day I woke up and I knew what I was doing
with warmth and love in my heart and I've been voided that ever,
since I got out in 2007 and I have walked the Earth.
Drank snorted and sniffed my way through every thing I could
possibly do for the last. Like, two decades almost having
an insatiable thirst for things people.
Just external stimuli that was not self-fulfilling because I
was not having self-fulfillment with life and ever since I put
my light towards this path and leaned into that fear and have
accepted, I want to say the challenge but the duty the
obligation of doing this of serving of being selfless for
others and helping them on their paths to self-mastery.
Mastery. It's been the most rewarding and
fulfilling experience my life and it pays dividends every
single day Ford. So again, I can't thank you
enough for your understanding. I mean, I remember when I told
you that, I wanted to shift Focus From the prep to something
else right away. I admired you because you were
concerned as a friend, it was no longer a business relationship
or a you know a worry about that professionally you were just
like hey man, what's up? Like it's all good.
You know I respect your decision no matter what but Let me know
what's going on if there's anything I can do to help I
loved you for that. Yeah that was awesome and even
now like talking about the why and that's why you know and to
me this took priority over the prep because I saw this as a
much larger thing that involved much more than myself and was
the act of selflessness or martyrdom, even to have to forgo
that for I don't know the foreseeable future in order to
do this and it was kind of one of those, you know, Stephen
Covey pages from 7 Habits of Highly Effective People and, you
know, first things first and that's exactly what this is.
How do you drink? I am 38 38.
So little young to be having a midlife crisis.
It's a good thing you're doing. I think this is awesome and I
feel like a lot of people People, they get stuck in this
life path and more often than not, they don't ever let that
tension caused them to deviate. They just simply roll with it.
Like they go through this system, they're pushed through
the educational system. They're told to go to college,
told to get a degree told to go to a profession.
They go to a career fair. They find a job.
They apply, they get it. And they're stuck doing
something. They don't really love doing
then. They wind up getting bills and
expenses. This isn't a get the golden
handcuffs, so to speak with a have to keep making those
paychecks to pay for the bills. They get themselves in and they
look back when they're in their late 50s and they realize that
their life is not what they had hoped it would be.
And that my friend is like, the most demoralizing moment, I can
ever imagine and I've not been there late 50s, but I've
experienced that to an extent. Sounds like you have as well.
And I think, regardless of When you realize that the fact that
you've woken up to it, and have that Epiphany had that
Enlightenment and are now Switching gears and doubling
down on what you find passion in.
I mean, now you're freaking UND, unstuck.
Unfucked, it Unleashed as the saying goes That's how I feel
man. And I don't want to say midlife
crisis, I think it's like the third life crisis.
I'm gonna push for. I'm pushing for 110, Rock
telling you that right now, there you go pushing for 110.
So I'm going to call it. A third will call to third life
crisis, but yeah, you know, One of the I think most difficult
things we deal with as human beings is trying to convince our
minds something that our hearts know to be a lie.
Right. And like having that happen to
you throughout your life constantly, and I'm speaking
from my own life but at the same time hoping that people
listening can understand that when your conscience is talking
to you, That's a free message from above, you know, that is an
unabashed. It's an objective unbiased DM
from The Universe telling you to go this way or don't go this
way. And being and living in
conscious congruence is the way, is your way, you know, yours
different than my mind is thicker than yours, ours,
different than theirs. But, for so many years, I was
living in congruently, with my conscience going against it
willingly knowingly, you know, feeling the abrasiveness, not
that I was necessarily trying to hurt myself or trying to do
wrong or not, go my way, but I just Constantly felt that it
wasn't right? And that over and over day in
day out and weeks and months and years and again decades to do
that. Yeah.
Finally I just put my feet down and dug in and said enough is
enough. I've got to snap out of this and
when I looked and saw what I had to do, that's when the fear
really set in because it was a long walk, it is a long walk to
go through that Gauntlet of discomfort and suffering.
Ring. But that's what this is about.
It's about self-mastery and self-actualization and self.
You know, autonomy and that wrote to self-mastery and the
rest of those things is paved in freaking suffering.
No doubt about it. Whether that's, you know, in any
age for millennium the greatest thinkers, the stoics
philosophers, any of the most ultimately enlightened persons
throughout history have used suffering to induce personal
growth to induce, you know, higher, vibrational
Consciousness. I mean, let's go to the Bible or
the Quran or the Torah. Like you can see in any of the
religious texts the talks of extended treks through the
deserts right? Prolonged fasting isolation.
And The more I've kind of lean into each of those, some of
those. Exactly like that, whether it's
fasting hiking walking or isolation have found by self
Within Myself And by utilizing consistency dedication, and a
Long View Incorporated. With what I say, is addition
through subtraction, right by removal of things to gain, so
much more is, what's given me, the ability to see that Because
I couldn't before rob, you know, I too much going on.
I too much noise and with that noise, whether it was from, you
know, the wrong people in my life which is a big one.
The wrong things around me, ignorance has disbeliefs but
just brain fog mainly from Food. I was eating.
You know, the number one thing. We as people can do in regards
to our health, to have the most profound effects is controlling,
what? We put into our freaking mouths,
straight up. You can have all the Yogi's and
Dali Lama's in the world surrounding you, but if you're
not honestly eating, well, it's satiating your brain.
And your soul with quality sustenance.
It's not going to matter. The messages won't be received
the same your ability to absorb, The receptors to hear.
And listen won't do the jobs the way they're supposed to, they'll
be tainted. They'll be diluted.
They'll they won't be able to perform optimally.
And that message will come in, just come Bobby, late it, or you
won't believe it. Yeah, that's that's hogwash and
it's a bunch of cockamamie BS. But by taking control of that
simple thing of like I said, eating the world can change.
I know, you know, that, I know you preach that to others and
then I do the same and that is been the first step for me and
unlocking. Myself was realizing the power
within food, not in exercise, not in love, not in, you know,
whatever you want to put into that.
At list. But my God, just the profound
effects of change that can come through controlling, what?
We put into our freaking rounds and that is absolute step one.
If I were to build a pyramid about it, that would be the
foundation, the Bedrock, I feel like non-negotiable.
There's all the physical benefits that come from, the
compounding effect of eating, quote attrition, but I feel like
if you were totally just bypassed those and look at it
simply from a psychological standpoint like people
inherently No, most people do that.
Eaten hot pockets and thing dogs.
All day long is not the best form of nutrition, but like you
start putting shit in, you're going to start putting shit out.
It's kind of like your environmental factors weigh
heavily on you consciously and subconsciously.
It's kind of like the whole Jordan Pederson ideology of
making sure your room is clean first, before you tackle the
day, like, if you inherently know that you're putting crap
into your body, the likelihood of you.
Taking in presenting crap outside of your body, in your,
your day-to-day activities and actions.
Like that's going to be Amplified.
Whereas if you can simply start the day and in the day and check
one simple thing off the list, that one simple thing being to
Simply eat foods that you can feel good about eating, that's
going to have a profound impact on just simply building that
initial momentum. 100% 100% And it's the Simplicity of it all
because you know like I was saying about being a scientist
constantly trying to disprove the hypothesis.
Yeah. Just because it's simple doesn't
mean it's easy right now and I say that kind of relatively
because it is easy. If you choose for it to be it's
difficult because the beliefs, we have the Norms that were
raised on and you know, the systems that have been placed
upon us or that we subscribe to in regards to what we want to do
and it's call it pleasure. you know, everything I make this
analogy people when I'm talking to them about Their diets and
especially with the corner of her diet.
And how I believe firmly that everybody.
One word. And everybody, two words can not
only benefit from this diet, but that everybody on Earth,
actually loves the diet everything from the neck down of
the human body. I'm almost certain of loves a
meat-based high-fat diet. Why?
Because it is the most comparable sustenance in the
world to our own. Meta physiology, our own
biology. You know, when you consume
purely animal Foods, especially red meat, that's as close to
human as you're going to get. Yeah, there's no, there's no
toxins in red meat naturally. Like plants can have many plants
right? Have protective toxins to help
them live to not get eaten to be, defend be able to defend
themselves. Whereas meat is tissue fat,
which is life. Carbon matter, organs and water.
That's what we are. So why would the compatibility
of that ever be incompatible or questionable?
It's ridiculous. Yeah.
And if you think about single Source sustenance and how and
why like for perfect metaphor, think about breast milk, breast
milk and in the mammalian world is is a miracle of evolution
because it gives an infant single source of sustenance.
you're a father, you know, this, I'm you all until a couple of
bullet points, you'll be able to pick up on everything that child
needs is given to it in a single form because it's Quickly
absorbing there's minimal storage because there's maximum
utilization. Very small discard, but the
least amount of duress on the body.
Why? Because this is a developing
infant. We're trying to give it as much
as we can from his few places as possible.
While at the same time, getting the most out of that one item
while at the same time, discarding as little as possible
because we're trying to retain as much as we can, but that's a
lot of work being done. So, how do we minimize the
stress on the body breast milk? So how to add as adults?
Do we find that? Well if we try to go to a single
Source sustenance that gives us the most bang for our buck, with
the most amount of utilization, at least amount of storage, the
least amount of discard and the least amount of stress and
duress. It is freaking red meat, dog,
straight up. There's nothing else on this
planet that is going to give you gram per gram per pound for
pound the amount of macronutrients micronutrients
vitamins, minerals mineral, scuse, me, essential
non-essential, amino acids, enzymes.
The whole panel in a single Source, then would be one of
those things. And so when people start having
these miraculous, and I use the word softly because it's not a
miracle, it's logical. Miraculous healing episodes from
when they go strict, carnivore, Allah, Michaela Peterson Allah
Jordan Peterson. Allah my client.
So I lost some of yours. It's their bodies doing that
naturally. And it's the fact that they're
being provided, this perfect single-source, optimal
sustenance to give them all of that.
While at the same time, stressing them, the least
amount. Just like the infant you know
like when when your child was born and this might be a little
TMI but I think you can get it. Those bowel movements whilst
only on breast milk. Before anything else is added
into the equation. Diet, airily are not that bad.
Yeah, pretty minimal. You know, the reason pretty
pretty minimal kind of crazy like the smell is kind of
neutral. The Sure, the, you know what you
like? What is that?
Like, this is weird. You know?
Like, it's, it's strange because you're you, we automatically
think. Okay, baby bowel movements can
be horrible. It's going to smell horrible.
It's going to be an absolute mess.
God help us. But when they're just on breast
milk, It's really not that bad and it this is kind of back to
that, you know, convincing our minds of something, our hearts
know to be a lie. It's not that we're lying to
ourselves. But right there that is a sign
that is direct evidence of what I'm talking about and suggesting
is Theory but more so arguing to be truth or fact in the sense
that why is that that happened? That way again single source of
perfect pristine Natural sustenance coming from the
mother. Hopefully, healthy mother being
ingested by the child being absorbed utilized minimally,
minimal amounts being stored because they're using so much of
it to grow and develop, what's not being used.
That tiny little amount is being discarded and of that discard
because so much of what was taken in was utilized.
There's very little discard and there's not a lot of foulness to
it, right? It's just kind of, like a It's
more air than anything. Yeah and then it doesn't stress
the body at all. That's the sign right there.
The second you start incorporating these green and
orange and other colored jars glass jars into their lives.
That's when the downhill process begins.
And that's when you start opening up diapers that you
don't want to open and you can smell them from down the hall
and, you know, the president waiting for you and you Here in
the child, you hear them, screaming and crying and things
change. And again that's another sign.
And it's like what happened to these beautiful you know breast
milk bowel movements. Well that's what happened to
them and when I first started on this carnivore train and started
seeing the frequency of my bowel movements, reduce dramatically
the same thing, volume scent. You know, comfort.
All of that became writing on the wall to me of like oh man.
Okay, I'm absorbing all this food as opposed to when I was
vegan bodybuilder and I was having five massive bowel
movements a day at least and thinking such good shape.
This is my metabolism working so fast.
I was almost proud about it, you know.
Like the more I had the better, I thought it was, but looking
back that entire toilet filled with stools is my body saying
dude. We don't need any of this.
We didn't need any of this, and you just made us have to work to
get rid of all this junk rather. Now I think it's been probably
four days since I've had a bowel movement as of today, December
27th. And who I don't know when they
come anymore because everything I'm eating is getting totally
absorbed, utilized, minimally stored, and minimally discarded.
And to me that's the breast milk think.
So when it comes to again, loose term of Miracle, miraculously
curing people, it's not about the diet's doing that.
This is there are bodies doing that again.
Michaela, Peterson with her, God problems with arthritis, Jesus
having multiple surgeries at like 12 13 years old and now
having to deal with some other things with their ankles in the
skin diseases. She had regarding autoimmune
disorder, same with Jordan, Peter, Person and same with
people that I've dealt with with psoriasis eczema.
I mean, depression for sure, one of my clients in less than three
months. He's taken, he's been prescribed
as a next since he was eight or nine years old for depression
and the other day, he texted me said, man, this is the first
time in 30 years that I haven't taken a pill for the last two
months and we have done anything.
Yes, that it's hard to put a price on that, man.
Like people, it's hard, you know, what do you say to
something like that? You say and, you know, thank
you, thank you, Jake. This is amazing.
It's like tuna I didn't do anything.
This is all you. This is all your body and it's
all that we have in each of our bodies.
We all have that ability and by eliminating these other blocks
these other things that yes our path.
Our pallets and this is what about to go.
Go back to the Head, the neck down thing.
Our pallets, love them. Our brains love them and
oftentimes the association and reason that our brains love them
is because we're holding on to a past, trying to evoke a revoke,
a past memory, right? Of childhood.
Like for me, my mild binge favorite was blueberry, banana
pancakes, used to love blueberry, banana pancakes, with
tons of ice cream and even cereal on top of the ice cream
because it reminded me of my father.
It reminded me of being a child and my father would make the
pancakes for me and you would even put banana baby food in the
pan. So as she knows his recipe
secret and they were delicious and blueberry.
Banana pancakes are not pancakes, topped with
blueberries and bananas. You got to put them in the
batter. You know.
Have that on The Griddle, not just put them on top.
I got to be gooey and all in there.
And so when I used to binge, it wasn't so much needing that
food. It was me trying to reconnect
with that memory. So it had nothing to do with my
body. That's total mind, that's total.
Mental attachment based on memory and then my tongue, my
palate needing, that wanting that, you know, hyperstimulated
sense of palatability. And once I started to realize,
like my God, my body is telling me how much it does not like
this. By the way, it would make me
feel immediately after the meal and for the days after that
recovering, from all the hormonal disruptions Spikes and
drops. That's when I started to realize
like, wow, if I start eating for my body and not necessarily from
my mind or my palate, my God, the difference is profound.
And that's why I say everybody, one word and two words can and
will benefit from this diet, their minds, their quote Hearts
might be elsewhere, like, okay, your dietary Consciousness, your
reasons for abstinence you are Social connection to this
Society or to this network or two.
For this reason I can't eat animals or I'm a vegetarian for
like like, hey, I've been a vegan, I've been a vegetarian
both for more than a year, not for not for a week.
Like when some people say that? I come from New Orleans.
My mother's from Mexico. I'm qualified as an alcoholic
and a boozehound, the consumer of drugs and fatty decadent
foods. Like I'm not speaking from a
place of ignorance and I'm saying that because I've tried
to use myself over and over it over to try and disprove these
hypotheses to be the guinea pig for the world.
You know, to fail and fail and fail more, and more and more in
order to try to find. Find and share.
And that's what I'm trying to do now is, you know, me creating
for being who I am because it's who I needed in my life and then
just taking that person now and sharing it with as many other
people as I can. I love it, man.
I feel like there's so many different stories out there are
so many different ways of doing things, and you know, I've
documented my journey, I'm excited that you're documenting
your journey and we may have so many similarities may have so
many differences, but The people that hear our stories, my story,
your story, other people that punk is the people that put out
information. Like, it, it may be the same
message or damn near the same message, but for whatever
reason, it's going to resonate differently with every different
person that hears it. So the more different stories
out there like your own like you going to be able to impact more
people so I don't ever have this this scarcity mindset when it
comes to people coaching or people talking about nutritional
Lifestyles and and Transformations.
I feel like The more people that simply share their story, the
better and I feel like the fact that you've gone through all
these intensive trials and tribulations, you've gone vegan,
you competed that in a very high level with vegan diet, you've
done all these drugs. You don't these things that are
obviously hard on the body and the mind.
And yet you've landed on this current that and lifestyle, that
you've, you know, felt so strongly towards like that to
me, speaks a hell of a lot more volume than if you were to have
this kis life and never really experiment.
Everybody push the Streams and just wind up falling into what
you are now. I mean, it's it's easy to be a
theorist. you know, like anybody can study in a lab under perfect
conditions, and write rules and, you know, text I am definitely a
lifelong student and practitioner so I want to study
but I got to get in there. You know, I'm an anthropologist
I'm a sociologist in it. I'm an archaeologist, I can
Deanna Jones, that's my guy. You roll the sleeves up
neck-deep in mummy turds and you know, covered in blood and guts,
trying to find the Ark of the Covenant or something like that.
But yeah, because he's curious You know, curiosity is the word
that I'll have tattooed on my forehead in the grave.
If I had to pick, you know, one thing about me that I would say
is the most important and throughout all this has been
Curiosity, has been having the Curiosity of a child with
everything. Why why, why why?
And then through action, you know showing people not just
telling people like anybody can be on the pulpit and just and
preach again theorists theorists.
Are great but the practitioners the real Executioner's, the real
Risk Takers. You know, like those are the
people that really solidify their core beliefs and that's
how you start building a vision of creating the life you really
want for yourself, is through action.
I mean, action is the Kryptonite to anxiety?
Yeah. And one of the things that I'm
impressed and teach my Warriors now is especially dealing with
that, depression deal, with that anxiety.
Like, yeah, you want to have Idols hands and succumb to the
Devil's Playground. Will like on idle mind is the
ultimate version of that but the antithesis of that is action and
being afraid, you know, courage is to be afraid recognized the
fear admit your own fear and like move forward regardless in
spite of it, that's courage to me.
And the same feelings, the same thoughts because our thoughts
are things. And those things can control us.
But the same way they can control us to start is the same
way that we can flip the script and control them, right?
Just because we're feeling one way in.
One instance, doesn't mean we can't feel immediately different
the next and that's a choice, but having that Clarity of
vision, having that belief in ourselves sense of
wholesomeness, purposefulness mindfulness, you know, like to
be again in that conscious - congruence, it's not there
without the right things coming into the system, right?
How can we expect to feel good if we don't take care of
ourselves? Well, how can we expect to think
positively if you hang around with - Lea speaking persons?
Or how can we expect to operate on a high vibration of her
around - vibration? It just doesn't work like that
and we try. But again there's our Parts
telling us something trying to convince us of something,
rather, our minds trying to commit to something that our
hearts know to be a lie. And I agree with you, man.
I everybody in the world hey coach away, you know, the more
people that are trying to push for enlightenment, self-mastery
expanded Consciousness. I mean even though it to me it's
not being superhuman, this to me is Being Human.
Yeah like normal, you know where as so many of us for For the
majority of our lives have operated and still continue to
operate in deficit because that is the system.
You know, the movie, The Matrix, God couldn't be more appropriate
of. A literal and metaphorical
example of life in today's world and particularly particularly, I
think the United States, I remember trying to get a buddy
of mine to watch the movies and I don't want to watch that.
It's about computers and junk. I was like, dude, the movie is
nothing to do with computers. It is a metaphor.
It's about life. Watch it.
You know it's just a cover and he came back, he's like dude oh
my God, I can't believe this that I was like now you
understand. So, you know, when people ask me
like, oh, so you're a nutrition coach or you're a trainer, you
know, that was one of those things that I didn't want to be
labeled by and one of the hesitancy is that I had in doing
this. But again, so be it, you know,
that's the challenge for me to rewrite that perception which I
love to do because yeah, nutrition is part of it.
If I had a flat, a pie graph, I would say it's 95% and that 95%
matters because it's 95%, but that 5% of Let's say personal
growth. And self-mastery and
development, you know, Reading Writing meditation, exercise,
overall, spiritual and physical nutrition.
That 5% is heavy too. Mmm.
But none of that matters without what's going into your body?
Because who we are externally or superficially.
Let's say that's Phase. 10 of the conveyor belt.
Of Life of our lifecycle phase zero would be Krebs cycle,
cellular mitosis meiosis development and expansion,
right? So we start off as these,
nothing's become matter becomes cells cells disk into organs to
full body. I am trying to show people that
rather than starting on the outside and walking into the gym
and just picking up a pair of dumbbells and gripping it.
Ripping it that's trying to start at Phase 10 and effect may
be only down two phase eight. Yeah.
You burn some fat and you and handsome exterior muscle muscle
fibers. And you look great.
Sure. I've been there too.
I know what it means, but if you can go back to phase zero and
start working on your self at the cellular, pre cellular
level, Right. Within your brain within your
actual cerebral cortex where you can Command the development and
growth of new cells to be of the highest quality because of your
belief, because of your intention because of the
purposefulness that you're implanting in your own
conscience. Consciousness.
Excuse me to tell them that these cells are going to be of
the highest quality and Purity with mindfulness gratitude hope
Joy, inspiration zest for life like you can do these things.
Your thoughts are things they can command results.
When conjured and Derived from the right places of warmth love
and compassion and honesty and to do that and then work your
way from phase zero to face 10, brother.
You're talking about a change that can't be Quantified with
words or even. I mean, feelings are one thing,
but that's what I try to impress upon people now.
So when someone comes to me and says, Hey Jake, can you help me
get abs, or can you help me get a butt?
No, but I can help you change your life and completely rewire
your conscience and reconnect it to your soul.
And you're going to feel better. You'll become stronger, you'll
become healthier. And then guess what?
When you do those things that exterior part, it's a byproduct
wake. Wake, let me ask you this, man.
So all the experiences that you've lived in life through all
the different chapters. That's what's made you into the
person. You are now, you wouldn't
really, I can't imagine your some of that would want to do it
differently because that's what has led to the person.
You are now, which I'm excited about the person who announcer
you are as well, but if you could, will it such that any of
the wisdom that you pass out to people who need them, the
encouragement, the advice, the thoughts, the experiences that
you're putting out there for The Ether.
Are there anything is there anything that you would will on
to people that they would be better off?
Not experiencing firsthand in order to reap the benefits?
Like is there anything that is best just simply knowing and
then not going on that dark alley as opposed to just simply
doing it all and having all those experiences?
You mean smarter not harder in a sense it is since yeah, yeah.
I've definitely done plenty of things, the hard way, you know,
it's funny. You ask that Rob because in one
hand I want to say yes, for the sake of You know, compassion and
that people don't have to do things necessarily the hard way
to get there. But when Thomas Edison was
trying to Work on the light bulb. he failed some say ten
thousand times or over ten Thousand Times Ten Thousand
Times Ten Thousand and when he finally cracked it, His answer
to. Wow, you finally figured out how
to make a lightbulb. He's going to know.
I learned 10,000 ways how not to do it.
Yeah. Was it the magical last one that
did that, you know, same story with of great, sculptor,
sculptor hits a piece of rock or a chiseler?
It's perfecting, you know, rock the same guy that did the David,
you know, like the statue was always there.
I just helped remove the way the pieces, the sculptor hits that
stone 10,000 times and they Rock doesn't move and then filing
that last one and it shatters towards supposed to be but
without Edison ten thousand fails.
What's the worth of that one Eureka moment?
Yeah you know and I don't wish danger upon anyone.
Of course not and I wish everyone the best but There's,
there's a magic in that growth, you know, the the person who
takes more pride in the steps to attain the result rather than
the result itself. I'm telling you, brother, like
there's something there because it's the work that truly
instills the worth. I know if we focus on that on
that goal. Or, you know, you go back to the
book, The Alchemist, the pyramids, you know, the walk
through the desert and we're thinking I got to get to the
pyramids. That parent means, it's like,
no, dude, those steps right there in the Middle where you're
lost or you're afraid or you're trying to learn and survive.
That's Where It's At. You know, it's really about
there. Like right now, I'm in a 66 day.
Strict carnivore. Oh, mad shred so 66 days, just
carnivore. One meal a day and I'm in a
pretty big deficit. Because to me, it's all about
the suffering and not because I'm a masochist, but because I
like the edge, I like making myself an underdog making Self
has to compete and have to. Endure and accomplish and
achieve in spite of maybe having a lack thereof.
Something operating with less, but being able to find a way.
Yeah. And I'm on day 41 right now and
I was talking to a friend of mine today about you know it's
going to be cool once I get there but it's never going to
get better than right now. Today, you know, tomorrow is not
promised yesterday is gone. The future is non-existent
without the focus on the president.
That's what I mean. About the work truly installing
the worth. Because if we focus too much on
the goal, we're more than often looking for a quick fix.
We're looking for the fastest way there, the easiest way, you
know around something. And that's not going to give us
the same level of satisfaction and honest.
You know, achievement as if we had to really earn it and God,
I'm so glad Rob that there is not a pill yet that can change
it, that can change a body overnight.
You know, thank God in order to lose weight in order to gain
weight, in order to, you know, for body recomposition of any
kind, even if you cheat, you still have to work for it.
Thank God because If you don't do that work and you just try
and have it given to you, you're not going to relish it.
You know, you're going to just throw it away.
The next chance you get, or you can go show it off to your
friends and then not live in the manner you should in order to
maintain that because you haven't appreciated what it took
to have to get there. So again, I'd love to tell
people that there's the easy way to do things the hard way to do
things and to avoid the hard way but I'm the kind of guy that's
going to tell you take the stairs instead of the elevator.
Yeah, I think I mean honestly man that is the reason that I
even compete like I don't plan on making the livelihood with
bodybuilding me. You and I both know that W NB F
and just natural federation's in general.
Don't pay shit so it's not like you're doing this for money.
I love the sport because you are forced to sacrifice and your
Against All Odds. You have to go without whereas
all And you is things in abundance.
You have to have the discipline to say no to those things and
keep grinding. And all the while the world
never stops. Turning you still have
responsibilities as a father, as a husband, as a, as a
contributing member to society, as a businessman is whatever.
That never stops, but to do that self-imposed hardship to
sacrifice for that length of time.
Every single day. Without fail.
I mean like that the growth that accompanies that is hard hard to
quantify. Yeah, exactly.
Like you said amidst abundance, right?
The proverbial Lion's Den. It's everywhere.
It's all around us. Pleasure immediate satisfaction
simple. You know, instant gratification
with minimal effort, it's all around us and we don't have to
work for anything anymore. And so for me, I'm trying to
deconstruct that and re-engineer, my thinking, to
have to work for everything. You know, whether it's making
fire with my hands to not use the electric, stovetop doing
days where I'm going to tell myself, all right?
Non-dominant hand only just to challenge just to mess with my
mind, right? Bye-bye non-dominant hand.
Only brushing your teeth sucks. Wiping yourself sucks, really
sucks. But we don't have that anymore,
we don't have that connection you know even you know when I
first get people into reading or writing you know if it's a good
journaling and just kind of mental evacuation and they're
like what kind of make an iPhone?
No door. Can I read it?
No, there's something. Old school.
Innate within us about putting that Pen in Hand and
mechanically having to write and be intimate with paper and touch
and feel, and it's a different type of sensory, you know,
exploration and output. Because we're so used to this
just instant, instant instant, I mean, even when I first moved to
New York, I fell in love with the place because I could have
my drugs delivered to me in 20 minutes.
Didn't matter where I was in the city, anytime at night.
Oh my God, I love this town. This is great. and that just you
know, fed my Perpetual pleasure chasing So, you know what was no
end but they're, you know, there is no end to that like when you
constantly have that. Pleasure just over and over and
over, like it becomes insatiable.
You know, and like now I'm after the purpose of feeling good and
wholesome and completely honest. And genuine with my thoughts and
action living, you know, consciously congruent, never
with regret, and never having those massive lows that are
attached to pleasure-seeking. And so now like discomfort
becomes the comfort zone. Purpose becomes the pleasure and
I get pleasure from the, from my purpose, right?
Not trading away, the things that you know, I ultimately
desire for short-term, you know, spikes and and appreciation or
short-term kits of dopamine. But things that are Long and
Lasting that are in my heart and I know are in line with what I'm
trying to achieve in life and internally.
And for the world around me to be lets say Temptation.
It's just a better. Reminder like no, you know, I
heard. It's somebody that we all
probably know. Billy well say it's not that I'm
crazy. I'm just not like you.
And I think it's, it's so true, man, because I love that feeling
to when you're in prep mode or you're putting yourself through
a test. Like, right now with me with
this, oh, mad thing, you know, I'm 41 days in the 0 mad, but
I'm 57 days. Strict carnivore on top of that.
And just walking around and seeing people, you know, eating
with their eating drinking with their drinking doing what
they're doing. I'm no judge, I'm no critic.
I encourage anyone and everyone to do.
What makes you happy on this Earth as long as it makes you
happy, it doesn't harm yourself or other people baby you go for
indie rock and roll and do it with open arms.
But don't ever regret about it? Don't come to me tomorrow and
say aw Jake. I did this.
I wish I had. Did you enjoy it while you were
doing? It was fulfilling.
Was it fun? Yes, yes.
Yes. Then Own It.
Admit it you went to the strip club, you did cocaine and you
drank a bunch and you know, made some quote bad decisions.
Did you enjoy them? Okay.
Then Own It admit it I was with my kids and I had a drink and we
had some birthday cake. So, I had some cake.
Did you have a great memory with your children and your family
and enjoy that time? And did it nourish your soul?
Yeah. Did you enjoy when your daughter
was smearing icing on your face and getting it in your hair?
Was that a memory? You'll If forever.
Yeah, then Own It. Admit that there's nothing wrong
in that but don't come to me with regret.
Don't come to me with remorse. I have no sympathy for that
because I have empathy. I cannot have sympathy to that
because I have empathy. So in my mind, we're just more
accountable and honest with ourselves.
And what we really wanted to do, we would all be a lot healthier
because many people think they want to be healthy.
Many people think they want to change, but in reality many
people just want to appear. Rather than actually becoming,
it takes a lot more to become than just appearing to be, you
know, when I was first getting clean and sober, the first time,
what was the Cash trying to change?
I was pretty near death. Well I'd woken up on my last
Bender in an elevator on the floor in the elevator halfway
and halfway out. I'd probably been there for
several hours. I don't know, I don't remember
how I got there. The look to my phone and had a
lot of messages talking about my behavior that night what I had
done things. I've done nothing extreme or
dangerous but certainly not safe to myself.
Certainly not respectful of myself nor to the people that I
was around. And you know, you add that on
top of the I used to drive around New Orleans.
I always had a bag on me or bags and whenever I was home, I was
had a gun on me. I always carried a gun.
And just those two things alone, together, concealed weapon or
weapon of any kind. Coupled with CDs or controlled
dangerous substance Louisiana, carries a mandatory sentence of
10 years, mandatory. And I was driving around every
single day, every single night, going out eight nights a week
because I went out all the time at all hours at all crevices and
dark caves of Hell on Earth, places to do things because I
was scared mad. Whatever.
My reasons were, but nonetheless, that's where I was.
Those are the steps I was doing. I couldn't go out without using
those multiple eight balls whole week of cocaine.
So, you know, anywhere between 10 15, 20 grams a week.
Sometimes and not being able to find happiness, even amidst that
and then using Xanax and other depressants that ssris to try to
come down. And then when I eventually
started to finally get clean from checking into facility, the
first time food became the next Medicine.
Hmm. Because now that I didn't have
the booze, I don't have the drugs.
I still needed to escape reality.
I say, need, I still wanted to escape reality and because, you
know, sobriety was freaking hard, man, you take it.
You take away all the numbing medication and you feel what you
really feel like, man, it was not good.
You know what, I got out of the I got all the Marine Corps in
2007 and I had been Angry and scared and and trying to re-find
that identity because as a marine, it was the proudest I've
ever been. In my life, I had built an
identity around being a marine. I couldn't have been happier or
more proud. I loved what it stood for.
I loved feeling that I contributed to something every
single day, a purpose, higher and myself.
And the reward internally for that was in.
It is inexplicable and ever since I got out the disconnect
of society, feeling that I lost that Brotherhood and that family
and, you know, the warrior ethos and everything that it stood for
the core values of Honor, courage, commitment, and just
the dissolution of my own self and getting lost in the caverns
of substance and alcohol to come out of that sober life was
really freaking hard. Yeah and so I ate my way through
A lot of things. And then when I found that I
could use food to actually induce some of those same
Spheal, same feelings of, you know, kometa being comatose.
There was a huge like, Ah-Ha moment like I can I can get what
I need out of this stuff and that put me down.
A terrible rabbit hole for years of using food to literally knock
myself out. Destroy my relationship with
food and so it would be hard for me to say to people that I wish
you could do it easier. Or I wish there was a better and
more efficient way. But Having learned it the way
that I did, like you said, I don't regret any of it, man.
You know, regret is a beautiful guideline.
If you did something and you regret it that again, it's a
free level up. DM from The Universe telling us
what's wrong, and how we should be living Our Lives.
Again, that is your conscience guiding you.
The universe is incorrect encouraging.
You to try and keep your actions in alignment with your life's
purpose. You can fulfill your freaking in
Destiny while on this Earth. And there I was going against it
all that time, all those years. And then when I finally started
to go the right way, listen to the right music, walking, the
right bath, man, talk about the lights coming on.
There's a Brave New World. There's something special in
doing something that is so counter to what you've done
previously. So counter to what Society deems
fit and then seeing tremendous success with it.
I feel like there are two primary forms of resistance
especially early in one's life. The first is simply not knowing
how to go about doing things like you don't have the
experiences, you don't have the know-how, you just don't know
what path to take. So you try a lot of things you
make. Eggs.
But then there's a second form of resistance comes when you
know exactly what it is. You need to do and you recognize
how truly difficult it is. And most people don't ever
double down and do the hard thing and that fills them with
the regret. But if you know what it is, you
need to do in life to reach that level of fulfillment
satisfaction that, you know, you deeply crave and are capable of
you owe it to yourself to double down on it.
Because the Sensation that comes from Doing that hard thing and
then experience the success that follows is beyond words.
I mean, until you learn to walk in line.
With your conscience and I know I've said the word conscious a
lot like this but until you learn to walk in line with your
conscience to live in congruence with it, you will be forever
plagued by your thoughts. Your actions and your choices
that are not In that same line, you will not feel whole, you
will feel off because you are off your making choices based on
stuff other people, think, and any sort of external influence
that aren't isn't coming from your heart.
And you can't fake that, you know, the body is the greatest
Communicator in the world because it's unbiased in its
messaging system. Hey Rob, we're getting pretty
hot in here. So we're going to secrete some
sweat to try to cool you off. But if you continue at this
output, it's going to get a little weird and we might get
lightheaded or we might have to shut down because we're having a
heat stroke Roger that I'll shut it down.
I'll cool off da da da but if you choose Free Will brain to
not do that and then the body goes to those next steps that it
told you was going to happen. And then you pass the free out
or you have a heat stroke heat exhaustion the body told you
Hey, Rob were cold. We need a warm-up.
I'm going to send you some Goose Bumps so you can understand
that. We're really cold and we need
some help here. Okay.
Cool. I'll put a jacket on but if you
don't listen to it, then what happens hypothermia frostbite so
cold XYZ dead. Body told you it's unbiased
objective with the messaging, it's telling us the same things,
all the time in regards to our feelings, because of what we do
because of who we hang out with because of what we freaking eat.
I remember. 75 6 years ago now, I was visiting with family in
Mexico and my aunt She's having a glass of red wine and two
sips. And she goes God, I don't know
what it is but every time I drink red wine, I get a headache
and my uncle my Godfather's from another part of the house he
goes well then maybe he shouldn't drink red wine and I
laughed. But how true is that to say
something? So simple as everything, I don't
know what it is but every time I drink, red wine, I get a
headache. Tomorrow, would you doing?
Your body is literally telling you something about.
This doesn't Sit right with us but again we do it anyway.
The hardest thing we as humans deal with is trying to convince
ourselves. Our minds of something that our
hearts know is a lie, drinking the wrong people, the wrong
circumstance, wrong environment, the wrong substance, or does it
matter what it is? But the answers are literally
right there on our bodies. Tell us how they feel.
You want to talk about more carnivore stuff.
I don't have gas ever, I don't have indigestion ever.
I don't have cravings for things ever.
You know, people talk about indigestion, those another
client the other day. Hey man.
Yeah, I've needed indigestion. I've needed indigestion
medication for the last nine years.
I haven't had it in the last 45 days.
No need for the medication. Huh.
How about that? Add that one to the list wasn't
expected? I didn't even know that about
him and then he brings it up and says that oh my god.
Well that's pretty cool. Another client that, you know
was taking blood pressure. Blood pressure Patient.
No more blood pressure, meds a week into this. like, Again,
unbiased objective, communication, being sent
directly to you yet. We choose not to listen to it or
we're going to keep living in the manner that is still harmful
to us. But we're just going to try to
medicate superficially and put a bandaid on top of a gunshot
wound. Meaning I don't want to change
my lifestyle. Just give me some pills so I can
keep living this way harmfully, regardless of the side effects.
And that way, I'll just kind of, like, be fine enough to get by,
as opposed to yes. Putting in the work.
Yes. Maybe be having to go through a
bit of discomfort and abrasiveness in order to get to
that to that place. But like, what's the motivation?
I mean, most people think motivation is like fairy dust.
You just sprinkle on that. It's not motivation comes from
inside and it's combined with action and positive, self-talk,
and through our actions and self-talk, that's where we're
creating our strengths and our weaknesses self control, self
discipline. Those are the greatest powers in
the world. And to be able to take those and
create Pride out of them. As far as in suffering and I
love that word you know people are suffering.
I say suffering a lot of like Thomas was did I say this
masochists rub? It's like no it's pride in
suffering no one can suffer like me.
No one's going to take pride in the sacrifice like me like you
touched on about the prep to be able to walk around and that
this world of abundance and say I'm abstaining you know to walk
around the streets. When I go my walks I don't have
headphones and I look around every single person is Neck,
broken down enough own headphones in not being present,
walking around, you know, and just totally zoned out of it.
The best place in the world to observe humans.
In American humans, especially is the airport at is the
greatest petri dish of observation.
Yeah. And I say the next time you go
on a flight, I'll be on one on Friday.
So it's Heaven to Me. I'll have a book and I will be
on my feet and that will make me absolutely be a unicorn in the
airport, because every single passenger virtually, every
single passenger will be sitting down.
Whether it's a for a 60 Minute flight or a 10-hour flight to
Johannesburg, they're going to be sitting down.
And this happened to me last year or two years ago, I was
flying overseas from Newark, I was an intern.
Full terminal. There's like six flights in this
Wing that we were at Dubai, Zurich Paris to others.
I forget the city's Berlin was one.
Every single person in there, Rob was sitting down, their
necks were broken and they were on a device, remind you, this is
a red-eye flight, so it's already 2300 eastern time.
Almost midnight. All these people are, they gotta
be tired. Obviously, they're gonna be
sitting / laying down for a minimum of six hours shortly
yet. All of them are sitting and
digitally engaged. I posted up to where I could see
the entire terminal and it was reading a book at eye level.
So I had neutral spine, I was not neck broken and I dropped
the book down to like observe that scene.
I was just like my God, this is amazing.
Yeah and I just put the put the book back up and kept reading
and I was like man this is a cool place to be because here's
this world of abundance, eat whatever you want.
Get whatever you want snack on whatever you want Lounge here
there and I was like, I'm going to stand.
I'm going to stretch. I'm going to feed my mind with
knowledge and something. I love to tell people like hey
where do you learn this? How did you learn that Jake?
What I'm like they're called books and the secrets of the
world are hidden in them. Obviously, it's a paradox
because there's not really a secret if they're somebody took
the time to read it. But like my God, it's a beauty
of a book like yours. Every book, no matter what, the
subject matter, that is someone's everything.
That is something that someone said or thought.
It's so vital and important and the coolest thing that they ever
thought in the world, maybe that they couldn't help, but want to
share it, and they're trying to say, please read this, check it
out. Even if you don't like it, just
give it a look. It's my life's work.
It's everything in the world to me and we're surrounded by yet
again. There's everyone sitting down
eating terribly. I mean don't even get me started
on that. Art but just mine warps into
playing Words with Friends and Angry Birds, and whatever else
is big on the phones. Now for games, I don't even know
what about audio but is that that cheating not cheating at
all? Okay.
In fact, in fact, there's one audio book that I definitely
recommend to people to listen to.
It's the only book that I recommend people listened to as
opposed to reading to. But if you listen to an
audiobook just, you know, just be there for it.
I think it's easy to Distracted while listening to anything, we
do it all the time, right? Like, even as I sit here as you
sit where you are, you probably looking at things, looking
around at things, maybe you have someone coming in signaling,
you, hey, Bill, we can still listen to do a lot when you're
reading, you're pretty in there, you know me?
I'm old school. I got a highlighter out
sometimes multiple colored highlighters.
So I'm really, really in there. And I often take notes after the
fact or chapter summaries after the fact, it's where I'm really
in there. So audio is fine as long as
there's presents involved. Yeah.
But as far as in games to play like fun challenges, I just love
that you know, scarcity being the only you know walking into a
coffee shop and not taking my phone out.
The fact that some people started looking at you weird,
because it's like, this is kind of a phone.
What's he doing? He's just standing there and
it's kind of strange. Like, I literally had that
happened last year, New York City, Lower East Side, and
convergence of Chinatown and the Elias on Essex Street was at the
coffee shop. I was getting a coffee and
sitting there. Just looking out the window
observing the day, it was a beautiful fall afternoon and the
Barista came out soon as I hear you, okay.
I was like, yeah, why she's like, oh, you just And there's
like it's a beautiful day. I'm just you know, gazing at the
birds here and she was like, okay weirdo you know kind of
just give me. All right, hope you're not crazy
and in my mind I'm like I paid for my coffee I'm not a vagrant
like come on now but I look around at every other person in
their head at least a phone in their hand or on the table, plus
some with a tablet plus some with the laptop.
And so again the challenges that I issued a people Next time, try
it one day try for an hour. Try it for however, long you
want. If you're ever anywhere where
other people have their phones out, don't have yours out.
If anyone around you is using their device, don't be using
yours and I sent this as a challenge to where my clients
the other day, talking about presence and being there around
his children. And how important that time is
together. And how one of the areas he
needs to improve is less devices around the kids, but it's hard
because of work that I do. And I said, okay, man.
Now on when you're around the boys at phone does not come out
let's make it. Let's make it known or draw a
line in the sand here and now because they know they remember
they will remember and the fact that you're doing that is going
to be so much more impactful because every other parent is
not doing it everywhere else they go.
People treat them like background where they're on
their phones, even with the kids around, they will see that and
appreciate That exponentially. He's like, all right, I'm gonna
start tomorrow. Simple.
Things like that. Yeah, it is wild, man.
Like, I'm all for technology. I'm all for cell phones, like, I
run my business from them. They're great useful tools, but
they should never be the center point in one's life.
I mean, I feel like one of the single greatest but simplest
things I've done in life and will do as a parent is simply
not own a television. Like I don't know anybody else
that does not own a television but I don't watch the news.
I'm not inundated with all those - information.
I don't turn that on and veg out to Netflix like I don't have a
TV in my house and I have not had a TV since I was a kid and I
feel like that single simple thing has had a profound impact
on my development and my ability to just simply be present.
Say man. This is why were we get along?
Well Two's Company on that. Yeah, 100% And I got rid of my
TV in New York. Let's see.
I moved back there in January or February 1st 2021, from Miami
and with gotten some things from a friend of mine.
He had storage like, yeah. Did you can take this take that
as like perfect. Thank you so much.
One of the things is the TV. I took his TV, brought it
Apartment, I certainly didn't have cable, but I had to
streaming services and it took about four months for me to say,
I don't want this anymore. I don't need this anymore.
And dude, who's the first time in my life that I actually got
rid of a television and I hadn't done that.
So I did grow up having TV and this and that.
But I had the inspiration or the calling to be rid of it because
it wasn't serving me. It wasn't serving my needs.
I didn't I didn't want it and That Liberation was was awesome
that alone like you said something, so, simple to be so
impactful, this is also why I love hunting, man.
Like I don't have to go get my food out in the while I'm acting
I can go to the grocery store. I can there's a lot of reasons I
do hunt but honestly one of the main ones is simply disconnect
from all the noise in the world. Like, when you're out there and
you are in a situation best, if I'm a hunting out west in an
area, where I could be eaten by a mountain lion, like you are
forced cheap. From a survival standpoint, and
there's like a lot of peace and Solitude that comes with that
high degree of risk and danger, as counter a countertop, as that
may sound like there's peace in that and I feel like you have to
pursue that mean, we need that self-imposed hardship, we need
those things that are just so far removed from the current day
and age. We find ourselves in but that is
that is just it breathes life into you man.
That's so funny. About hunting.
It's so true. You know?
Like you don't pay attention to the ground.
He might fall and die. You might fall off a cliff might
fall out of the stand, he might get bit by a freaking snake.
You know, you might get attacked by a bear.
Like, yeah, you better be on your wits, right?
Your Spidey senses better be a queue or it could, it could be
bad for you, not to mention. You're dealing with the
elements, you know whether terrain like, you know,
frequency of you got to use, Compass has to navigating some
like that. It's absolutely you're tapping
into much more primal And, you know it's real human.
I trying to do that in New York challenge myself by way of its
funding, like the intro, just saying that.
I got rid of all my delivery apps.
So like food, convenience is because New York City, is we run
on that? We run in that speed volume and
intensity that hyper hyper hyper efficiency.
So, you know, we're getting lunch at the office.
It's getting delivered, we're getting, you know, something at
somebody's house, it's getting deliver.
We're getting catering or whatever for parties.
Delivered. We're ordering awarding awarding
again. Instant gratification.
Instant gratification instant gratification.
So halfway through, I guess last year or maybe it was at the
beginning of last year for my New Year's resolution, I think
it was, I was like, all right I'm going to delete all the apps
and from now on if I want anything, I'm going to go out
there and forage for it. So to speak.
I'm going to have to at least go, get it going to walk or
ride, a bike, whatever. I'm going to have to go quote
hunt. Aunt and get my food and then I
can bring it back to the cave, the house and have it there.
So that was cool. You know, to do that.
I was like, this is kind of a neat, you know, the whole city
runs on ubereats and doordash and here, I am, like, walking
around, you know, going and talking to shop owners and
learning new parts of the city and walking on streets.
I've never been on before and going into places that I've
never actually been inside of, but had in the past, and
throughout the years ordered from so many times.
Then I go there and meet these people and see these places.
I'm like, man, you guys are so nice and cool and this place is
so beautiful. I would have never known if I
just kept ordering the food online.
Yeah. And then I get to Florida or
come back to Miami, and there's a farmers market now that I go
to pretty regularly to Source my food from because they've got
all raw dairy products and all, you know, locally sourced and
cultivated food Goods animals of all sorts and kinds all the
organs that I want. It's just great.
So, sometimes I go there. And just get one animals worth
of cuts. So I'll go get like, rack a
ribs, a loin, or to a roaster, to a couple of steaks.
Basically, like a meals, a week's worth of a meal, but in
different parts of an animal like different cuts of an animal
and I'm salad. Tell him I was self, okay, I'm
going to eat on this food for two weeks and this is a whole
animal, maybe it's not a whole one but, you know, basically put
something together as crudely as I can.
For myself and I say I'm going to eat this food for two weeks
and I'm not going to go back to the market, quote hunting quote,
you know, forging searching until I finish this food and to
me that's like my version of like, going out there, having a
hunt for it, find it, and bring it back to the, to the cave.
So, yeah, am I driving their am I, not necessarily doing it with
weapons and, you know, out the, you know, the cool natural
environment? Not necessarily but It's a lot
similar. Yeah in a sense they're like you
going out there and having to kind of earn it, you know, go
off the beaten path and for sure, man, I appreciate every
bite. Every morsel I cook all that and
it's delicious, you know, and my soul, my soul.
Thanks me for it. That's the way to do it, man.
For anything that one can do to just simply return closer to the
more natural path. Closer relationship with circle
of life. The animals that you consume.
That is most certainly a step in the right direction.
So you doing that, I mean, that is far, far removed from
doordash, so 1,000 interaction and nothing against them.
They do a beautiful thing. I mean, thank God, you know, for
for those Riders, especially in the city, I used to use the
delivery Riders as a barometer for me sometimes in my writing
because I was a serious City biker in New York, I was top 1%
of riders as far as in mileage and Doc's visited.
I used to get all these messages from Citi Bike all the time.
So appreciate all the love from them like I did over 2,000 miles
on the bike in 2021 and that's - the entire month of January.
So there we give me some good, some good props, but I would
always use the delivery Riders is like if they're out here, I
could be out here. Yeah.
And there were definitely some days where I said, you guys are
better than me. You can have it because I'm
telling you, man, rain or shine it.
Doesn't matter how hard it's raining.
Those guys are out there. It doesn't matter how thick the
snow is. Those people are out there and
my hat goes off to him because like I said, you do to 2,500
miles in a bike in a year. It's a lot of riding and to
think there were days that I sat out because I was like, man, I
can't think this is my day today.
Those guys are still out there, you know, so God bless them for
what they do and that's respectable, for sure, for sure,
man. If that's their own version of
Hardship and adversity, they're tough and through many ways.
Yeah, for sure. Well Jake man, listen, I can sit
here and talk to you all day long, brother.
I mean, we do have deep into the mindset.
We didn't even touch about nutrition but honestly, I like
the mindset discussion. So, I mean, that's always,
that's always on the table to talk about, but I'd love to hear
about, I mean, where's the best place people.
Go to find. You mean, like, what's in the
pipeline for 2023? You mentioned resolutions early
as a specific theme or resolution or just goal that you
hold for 20:23 with It right here in front of us.
Yeah, definitely. Anybody can hit me up and find
me on life like Jake.com you can apply to work with me candidacy
is a case-by-case basis depending on their fits levels
of commitment and Readiness. But you can read all about the
methodology and what the program kind of has in store for you.
Some of the success stories, the things that I've helped people
get over and get through. I usually run 30 day Carnival
Sets with people to take the challenges themselves.
I jump in with all the challenges myself so that I'm
leading from the front and right there with you, going through
it, we have weekly accountability group meetings.
The kind of talk shop about that know, they're all personal
growth and development, Focus, talk about mindset, talk about
nutrition and exercise, of course, but really, just kind of
fostering that community of support and accountability for
people to have that know it's what most people lack.
But as far as in 2023, yeah, I'm starting the year off with a
bang. Bit of coaching seminar with a
friend of mine that I got invited to literally on New
Year's Eve. So I am walking the walk as far
as in. No, I'm asking people to come
work with me and let me coach them.
Well here I am as a coach myself getting coached, you know,
talking with others Consulting with industry, thought, leaders
and top dogs to try to better myself in order.
It's a better serve the community that I serve so I'm
not just preaching it you know, asking for contribution or
participation but like I do it myself and I believe in it and I
know it works because I do it. It's the same thing.
Like with anything else that I teach I've either done it or I
still do it myself and that's the best thing I can bring into
the new year is is discipline through action and proof the
reaction, not through words and by Leading from the front by
example and Hopefully helping more and more people become
happy healthy and Wealthy that's like, like, Jake.
I love it man. I do manifest to every year more
so than a resolution, like a theme for every year and my
Manifesto for 2023. I recorded it early this
morning, at the go live on. The first is, discipline is
Destiny. I feel like that's pretty much
right on par with what you're saying, here.
Hmm. Well, that's yeah, man.
I mean Discipline is the key, you know like everybody a lot of
people work backwards and they think you know intensity then
consistency. It's like no get your knowledge
together, apply the consistency and then kick up your intensity
without having the disciplines. You're going to be spinning your
wheels for a long time. You know.
And discipline is where you're really going to align your
character and build confidence that you build that confidence
and character through action. That's our say like don't tell
them show them. So that's maybe to mine or to
complement yours. Don't tell show.
I love it, man. Well, Jake, listen, brother.
I thoroughly enjoy our conversations.
I feel very blessed to have worked with you in the past.
As a coach, I'm excited for what you're offering.
As a coach, I've got no doubt that you offer a ton of value to
anybody that works with you. I can tell by just the tone of
your voice. I could tell when you.
And I got out that conversation earlier this year, when I, when
you were Switching gears and moving towards this direction,
your At now that you're just on the right page, on the right
trajectory and I'm freaking excited, man.
I'm excited for what the future holds for him and there's
everything I could do to help. Anyway, ma'am, you've got my
contact info brother. Thanks Rob and likewise you know
you you're a thought leader man. You you're up there holding a
flag, carrying the colors and a lot of people look up to you
myself, included and appreciate what you do, the message you put
out for again, your consistency, you know, the same word you're
using is in regards to what you see.
And of me and hear from me, that's how I see from you.
It's that consistency. Like this guy's on it, he
believes it. He lives it.
And that's what I respect and admire, and Appreciate the most.
So thank you man. Thank you ma'am.
A films are certainly Mutual brother that said man that's
cool. Kick 2023 is a nice brother.
Let's do it end of the year. Another one down, another one
begins. It's important to it.
Take care of Jake you too. Rob.
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