Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces.
I'm your host Mr. Mocha. Joining me is my Co host for the
evening, Mister East Coast Craig McKinney.
So. What's?
Up. So we are splash, Mocha coming
back again. We've actually been having a lot
of, well, everybody's been having a lot of fun but me
because I keep fucking falling asleep.
But. But we have the cocktail party
coming up here in about 30 minutes.
Man, it's so much, so much fun stuff to talk about.
We would have started earlier, but I've met a new one of my new
best friends here at the here Splash mocha.
You know, his his first time here and we were just running
our miles so now. Well, you got to say, you got to
remember, it's not only their first time here, this is their
first remember. This is their first.
Everything, yeah. Anything so.
Yeah, yeah, It's actually, I'm, I'm actually excited about them
because after being in this for for so many years, you meet
couples all the time and you can kind of pick out the couples who
are going to be around. You can pick out the couples who
are going to be influential. So, like, man, super cool guy,
super cool wife. She came in right away and
explained why she, why she was nervous about it.
She broke down. What, what, what kind of scares
her about it, Which is weird because a lot of people get into
the lifestyle and they don't even know why they're afraid.
So that, to me is exciting. And then they've been here.
They've been social. She's been social.
She's been flashing that smile more.
First day she came in, she kind of hit it.
Now she's, you know, we're on, we're at Saturday and she's not
afraid to smile. So yeah, I'm.
I'm excited. I think that I think kind of
that's the testament of Splash, Mocha as well, because as we've
continually said, Splash is a very welcoming place, you know,
And every person that you talk to here, you meet people, you
may not need them, but you cross somebody that's walking through
the hallway and everybody is, hey, hey, hey, how you doing?
Good morning. Hello.
How you doing? Nice to meet you.
So it's a very welcoming place and I think that has made them
feel more comfortable to to maybe not, I mean again because
this is their first time, maybe they haven't felt comfortable
with playing because they've never done anything whatsoever,
but at least it's made them more comfortable to be here, at least
you know. Yeah, yeah.
And I'm I'm. It's exciting to meet new
friends and excited it is. I can't explain in words how
much the lifestyle has changed my life.
And for us, we know what it's like for us to have this
connection for new people and lifestyle.
Like for for them, you may not say to yourself, oh, you know,
we just met these guys and they say we're going to talk and
we're going to hang out. Yeah, whatever.
They don't mean it. But for us, we're like, oh,
shit, like the first time I met him, we've been connected since,
man, that that's it. You know, it's he's been to my
home. He knows that I'm going to be in
Atlanta, you know, not to stay in the hotel.
You know, if you call me and say I'm staying in the hotel, you
better have a fucking business meeting an hour away or it's
like, was my home not good enough for you?
I mean, I kicked all the pet roaches out before you told me
you're coming. What the fuck is going on?
You know, so those are type of the friendships and
relationships you build. So we are looking forward to
that. But Craig, we have the cocktail
party coming up. What are we going to be looking
forward to seeing? Well, the cocktail party, I mean
we, I've talked about a little bit on the podcast a couple
times. I have a, a, a group on
Telegram. It's a, it's a pretty exclusive
group, very kind of exclusive. So what happened was, to give
you a little bit of history about it, what happened was a
couple years ago, probably a little little more than 2 1/2
years ago, coming up on Houston, there were some people that
said, hey, I've heard that cups were not welcome at Splash.
And I was like, well, that's not true, you know?
So I created this group on Telegram where it was and I
invited a couple couples and said, hey, no, you, I want you
to understand that you are welcome at Splash.
You are welcome. You know you're a part of the
lifestyle and we want you to be here.
And so it started out with just a few people and it I invited a
couple cuckolds, and if originally it was just the
cucks, it wasn't the mistresses. Or the really?
Yes, that's how it started out. It was just the cucks.
And then there was a couple cucks who they went through
their wives and and it was like, OK, so you know what, I'll add
the wife. So that way you can see what is
going on in the cuckold corner. And it kind of just grew after
Houston. I was like, well, you know what,
why not let the wives in as well?
So it was the cucks. So this room that you're
Speaking of was not a it's a, it's a telegram group.
So it was a virtual group basically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it. Was.
Again it's on Telegram and it was it was just something that
again it just started kind of you know I just want you guys to
be comfortable with with being in Houston and it just kind of
after the after Houston it was like well why not just keep the
group, you know people are comfortable in here.
So it became OK so we'll we'll invite more people and it just
kind of grew and grew and grew so but it but again it's a very
exclusive group. We don't want people in there.
You know, just my thing is, if you're in there posting, you
know, there there. Now we do go into where we post
pictures and stuff like that. But for the most part, you don't
see a lot of pictures in there. But it's a lot of informational
stuff about how cages fit, what's the best cage for
somebody and all sorts of stuff. But then there's other stuff
that happens where there's just a lot of discussion, you know,
where one person in particular, I think, I don't think she would
mind me saying her name. Her last name is Woodstock, but
she messaged me one day and she was like, hey, I got a question
for you. And I was like, this is a good
question to ask in the cup group.
And she was like, you have a cup group.
I was like, yeah, So I asked the question in the cup group.
I added her and my intention was to delete her afterwards and she
was like, please do not delete me from this group.
I I, we are not in the cuckold dynamic.
But I love how things are in this group where we can discuss
things. You know, if you have a problem
with anything, it's not only cuckold discussions, it's about,
you know, a lot of different things.
So she's like they're not in the cuckold dynamic, but she's still
in the group, you know? But it it it's great because
there's a lot of stuff in there, not only again, cuckold dynamic
stuff, but lifestyle dynamic stuff.
And I don't mind inviting people, but it's all about, you
know, you you need to understand that this is not the your
typical telegram or any sort of group where you know it's it's
conversational and not just. And there's also there's a
certain Now here's the thing I'll tell you honestly I had to
beg to be letting to the group. You know, I noticed that he had
this group and I kept hearing about this group.
And I mean, here's the thing, like, I heard about this group,
you know, after, you know, he'd already fucked my wife and after
he'd been to my home and, you know, he, I mean all these, you
know, he said we were best friends.
All of this stuff, all of this stuff.
And then, you know, I I hear from some random citizen, Yeah,
I mean, me too. So I heard from some random,
heard from some random citizen about this cuckold corner group
and like, oh, wow, that's amazing.
Can you please introduce me to the owner of this group?
And then I find out that the owner of this group is none
other than my friend, pregnant kid.
I was hurt. I was devastated.
So I called him and you know. You just sent me a.
Message. Wait, was it abrasive?
I'm not sure, no, it wasn't abrasive, but you sent me a
message. Yeah, I sent him abrasive shit
all the time, so I don't. Know about it.
I don't know where we were on that day.
I don't know. You'll find out soon.
So that's like, can I get in the group?
He's like, I'll get you the group.
So I've been busting shops about it.
But the cool thing about the group, the thing I like about
it, is all the people in the group can be vulnerable.
And when I say they can be vulnerable, there's certain
questions that they can ask that in most groups, people be like,
holy shit, did you just say that out loud?
It's weird to say this, you know?
And because I'm, I'm the first one to knock a lot of the weird
shit that goes on in in in the world today.
So I'll use the term safe space. There's a space for people who
are in the community to ask any question, no matter how
uncomfortable that question may be.
Because you know in the Coco groups as men there's certain
questions that we're not used to asking.
There's certain things that we're not used to saying you
know guys for for us because you know we we've kind of for us
doing the podcast and stuff like that.
We're used to getting those questions.
But I was not used to seeing those questions in a group where
a bunch of people would hear. So that was a really cool thing.
And then just watching the level of comfort that these these guys
had and that the the sensation that there's no judgement.
In fact. You get judged for judging,
which is nice. I mean, it's nice because you
can be direct, you can ask a question, you got all of these
people who even if people don't agree with you, they will say
why they don't agree, but it's not in a derogatory way.
Exactly, Exactly. Exactly.
And that's the thing. That's why, again, going back to
the picture thing, it's not, it's not a group where people
would just just post pictures and like I call it fishing,
where it's like you're fishing, you're sending out.
Because most of the time, I mean, let's be honest, if
somebody posts a picture, it's about how sexually prowess
they're they they are, you know, it's like, OK, I I'm showing
this because I want someone to understand my Dick size or
something like that, you know? So like I said, I call it
fishing. But the group is not about that.
It's about like you said, you know, we come in there and it is
a safe space. It doesn't matter what your kink
is, whatever it is, you know people come in there and they
they say, hey I, I, I have a question about this what do you
guys think about this? And it doesn't matter what your
kink is, no matter what the fuck, anything, people can
answer honestly. And and if they are not into
that, they won't interject it at all in that in that
conversation, you know there's just this is what it is and you
get, you get honest feedback on everything.
And I think one thing that I enjoy is there's there's this
thing with me where like if it doesn't affect me, I don't give
a shit, you know, if it's not going to hurt me, I don't care.
So it it's not uncomfortable for me to be around the person who I
don't relate to. It doesn't make it weird or
uncomfortable. And I I love the the cuck, the
cuck corner group because don't get me wrong, playing with with
cuckold couples and things like that, there is a relation, but
there's also a an understanding. There's also things that I
personally don't relate to with the cucks being a bull, I don't
relate to cucks in a certain way, just like being a dude.
I don't relate to my wife in a certain way, you know, that
doesn't mean that I don't want to be around her.
That means that I don't relate. So in this group, the one thing
that I've enjoyed is there's a lot of things that I'm able to
to see and experience through them and understand them better.
That gives me a gives me a peek into their world.
Just like with our podcast, when the guys are podcasting, we
don't filter for a reason, you know, And a lot of people think
that, oh, Mr. Mocha can be a Dick sometimes.
Mr. Mocha talks the way he talks with his buddies when no one is
listening. That's how I talk on him on the
podcast, because if you want to really see how guys talk, I'll
show you. That makes.
That makes for good podcast. Yeah, though, I mean honesty,
you know, you want honesty about stuff, you know?
And and that's to me the best thing about the Cup group is, is
that it's just honesty. You know, people can come in
there and they say again, I mean not to harp on this, but it's
just there's no judgement about stuff.
If you want to be pegged by a woman, hey you, you're going to
be pegged by a woman and and and they'll discuss.
It like you, they'll they'll talk about, they'll discuss it.
They'll they have like really in depth conversation about lots of
things that my brain doesn't even take me there like huh.
But and it's not that that's not even negative way.
It's like I never even thought about that.
So that's. The weird thing about the the
cut group too, though, is I don't know if you've noticed it,
Mr. Mocha is that you can sit in there and then throughout the
next couple days there may not be any interaction at all
through people, but then you'll look up and there's like 100.
Yeah, someone says something. All of a sudden it's like holy.
It's like a huge discussion of stuff about this topic.
It's like, whoa, what happened in here?
Let me, let me, let me scroll back and see what happened.
Who said what to who? You know what topic was dropped
because that and that's the cool day.
And it's another thing where anyone can drop a topic.
Anybody. Anyone can drop it and once they
pick it up and start rolling with it, it's yes, it it's a
snowball, which is great and to me is very educational when I
when I have time because then I was like fuck, I'm so lost.
So I got to go back, like I go back 50 threads.
So like I'm sitting there reading this shit like oh oh
that's what you know. But it it gives you good insight
into that world and I think it also helps.
It helps you reduce your level of judge mentalness by
experiencing things through multiple people's eyes and
multiple people's, you know, vantage points.
So. I have AI, have AI.
You know, a lot of people, you know, I've, I've, I've expressed
how I, you know, my journey from from nothing through the
lifestyle and everything. And that's one thing.
Kind of one of the first things that I've experienced was, you
know, BDSM type stuff, you know, So I kind of learned that you
don't yuck somebody else's young.
You know that that's one of the things you don't yuck somebody
else's young. But we, I, I went through that
and yeah, come on, come on, come on, come on.
So that's why if if in the cup group it's like if you don't
like something you know it it the conversation will change you
know and and if if you're into this you have an interjection.
If you don't you're you're respectful about what is going
on in the group and and you don't say anything you know and
and that's why I'm again it's not that I don't want people in
the group I I want people in the group.
But it's like it's very selective because I want people
who are going to understand that and and and say hey this isn't
my kink. This isn't something that I'm
interested in, but I'm not going to say anything.
Yeah, and the second you wind up in a situation where someone
makes you feel uncomfortable for being you, people get quiet.
Right. So now you you you lose a lot.
And, you know, I think that that's a universal thing.
You know, if you if you want to learn something about a group of
people, shut the fuck up instead of going in and go, what the
fuck? Shit, let me not say anything
out loud. You just go in there and just
listen. And people, people will share
people explaining. At some point you lose that
judgmentalness, because at some point multiple people are going
to explain things and you're going to start understanding
where they're coming from, why they're.
And it still may not be your thing.
It still may. Listen, I personally, no matter
what, there's certain things I'm not going to want to do.
But I also am comfortable being in the environment because I
have listened to enough people say it's like, oh, I can
understand and I'm comfortable with that.
So when you're putting together groups, you got to make sure you
don't put some asshat in there. That's going to stifle me,
right? It make everybody uncomfortable
being themselves and it and and it's the knee jerk reaction.
Sometimes it is like there's I know, sometimes I know.
Sometimes my face is like, what the fuck?
Whoa. And you know.
I mean, I mean, honestly, there's stuff that goes on in
the corner too. I'm just like, yeah, I'm not
into. That, yeah, yeah.
And I'm just like, you know what, let me scroll past that.
But you know, But again, there's no judgment.
It's just just, you know, don't yuck somebody else's Yum.
This is what they're interested in.
And they will get good information on what is going on
and you know and just scroll past that you know and and and
it is it. It it is what it is, you know
indeed. Well, the cook.
I know we've noticed. I've noticed a couple people
started to walk into. Yeah.
Yes, it's it's almost 630. So it's time for us to wrap it
up as always. Hold on, I noticed I'm not.
I can't remember your name, but Tasha?
Yes Tasha, they are a new newer couple.
Cause have you noticed them as splash before?
I've seen them as splash before. How many splashes?
Is it for you? I think I may have seen her
once. You've been here before.
How many splashes is this for you?
I think it's. Our 10 10th OK, so I've been to
Splash about 10 times and they've just now started on a
cuckold dynamic, so I thank you for coming and well.
Listen, you know, everything is a journey.
Everything is a journey, you know?
So yeah, but they're definitely, they've been here before.
Yeah, I've seen them before. I've seen them.
I've noticed them before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's taking, she's taking, she's taking things for a ride.
Hey. Why don't come up here for a
second. Come on up here for a second.
And and you are so we we were we were discussing the cuckold, you
know the the the cut group and everything like.
That. Are you OK talking?
Yeah. OK.
So and and so we we were just discussing the the cuckold group
and everything like that. So what, Let me ask you, what is
it that that got you interested into that kind of lifestyle?
He actually started it. He kind of again.
We put in the lifestyle for years and pretty much tried
everything. So of course we want to explore
more and kind of started reading on the cocoa dynamic and
benefits and pros and cons. So we started trying it out.
He kind of likes it more for the edging type aspect of it.
The the denial is pretty hot. I've gotten into it.
I didn't think I would, honestly, at first, but it was.
It's been fun trying things out. OK.
So you said you weren't into it at first.
Has is this something that has kind of grown on you or or?
Was there a certain aspect that you weren't into?
I think it was the stereotype going into it, that it was a
weak man or. He looked.
Down on him, which is totally not the case.
And so learning that and getting past that, I'm like this.
That's not what this is about. I think that that that's
something where the cup corner has kind of helped out with a
lot of stuff because I mean, even to me, I mean you see me
wearing the make cut coat and great again hat and all sorts of
stuff. But even now in media and
everything nowadays, you hear somebody say, oh, he's a cuck.
You know the the word cuck has become prominent in a lot of
stuff now. And a cuck is supposed to be a
weak man who's a Sissy and this and that.
And being in the cut corner group, you've learned that being
a cuck doesn't mean that it it it, it's not a person who's
bisexual. It's not a person who is a Sissy
or or or weak or anything like that.
It's just a person who like I wear my hat, make cuckolding
great again and if someone asks me, I tell them it's a person
who is a female led relationship where she is more in control of
things sexually and in the relationship than what it
normally. Is.
And then keep in mind like the term cuckold is the the way
within the lifestyle. The way we use the word cuckold
is the way people use the word slut.
Inside the lifestyle, Inside the lifestyle you can you can enjoy
being a slut. Inside the lifestyle you can
enjoy being a cuck, you know because understand traditionally
you know cuckold is an insult. You know, traditionally being
cucked is something that is happening to you, you know?
So yeah, out in the regular world, I mean, this is a term
that's been around for hundreds of years.
We make it mean something different, you know, But like
I've told people before, one of one of the first cucks that I've
ever met was actually one of the one of the toughest human beings
that I know like military, like like like real hardcore inside
of the scene. He was this inside the scene.
But if we walked outside and you did that same thing, you might
lose something he feels like arm or leg.
So. So it's it's understanding that
during play time, you know. So it's that balance of what is.
And there is somebody in the group actually who said that.
And and I mean, again, it's something that I've learned from
being in the cut group again myself is that no, because he is
submissive to his wife doesn't mean that he's submissive to
you. You know, he's submissive and he
wants to sit here and watch and his and and see his wife do this
and that. But that doesn't mean.
And there was actually somebody in the group who said one time,
if you do this, I will fuck you up.
This is not. I'm an ex Marine and I am this
and that. And he said I would no, you're
not going to talk to me and treat me like this, you know.
Yes, I am submissive to her and and again a lot of people the
perception is if you're a cub you're just completely
submissive and and this is how it is and.
There's not. How it is there's?
Levels to it. There's levels to.
It like Biggie said, you know there's levels to it so and and
and again it's something that I learned from from having the
group where it's like there are levels this person doesn't like
this and and what you should do is you should talk to that
couple before you get into that. Before you start telling me he's
a Sissy and he's this and he's that, you should talk to them
and say what is your dynamic what are.
I understand you're a covenant what are you into or what are
you not into? Can I talk to him this way?
Can you do this and that you know so is is that something
that that I mean I I see him back there nodding his head and
everything you know so is this something that and you said you
were in the lifestyle of what 15 years or is that something that
is that something that could have deterred you from going
into this lifestyle because the the perception of of how a cock
is or I think. So the again is the typical
stereotype which I believed you know not really knowing myself
but after it's really made him more I guess like focused and
like aware when we're in that kind of dynamic.
He's very much an alpha male leads his company.
I mean he he's control of everything all the time.
This is his way of letting go, not having to be in control all
the time. It's like his release, a little
bit downtime and it it's been really good for us we've we've
really learned. How long, how long have you has
it the transition been into? How long have you been kind of
doing the the cuckold dynamic? Because I like I said, I've seen
you several times here, but I didn't know that that was a
dynamic. How, when did you start doing
the cuckolding dynamic? About a year ago, about.
A year ago. We've we've done, we've kind of
narrowed it down to hot wiping about four years ago really
enjoyed that kind of aspect and then about a year is when we
started exploring the cuckold, the the caging and how that kind
of works. No.
Is he is he someone who is caged all the time or is it something?
Because again to me this is again I I wear the hat and make
coating great again. But there's a lot of shit in
there that that you don't know, you know?
So is he someone who, is he caged?
I mean, you're starting out on this journey, so he's somebody
that's not caged 24 hours a day. Is he caged only while you are
playing or or what is the cage situation with that?
Well now it's definitely caged, the whole event of Splash.
Anytime we do a splash, he's caged until the end.
There'll there'll be times at home, maybe a week, we'll go
maybe a week or so and see how that goes.
Definitely during playtime. It really helps his mindset, I
guess. Kind of.
Helped create the scene. Yeah, it does.
It really does. And he's he's honestly like very
attentive, Not even just in the bedroom, but during that week
that he's caged, he's attentive to me.
He's horny 24 hours a day. I mean, he's very, very just
hypersensitive I think the whole time.
So it it's not even just in the bedroom and it's the whole time
he's caged it's it's really interesting to see him change.
And you know that it's funny because there was one couple
that was in the group that said something similar to that where
where after he got caged, he was more attentive about everything
that happened in the house. He's like, do you want me to
clean up? Do you want me to do this or do
you want me to do this? So I mean that that's a
testament to that in itself, you know, I mean.
And your level of commitment, I I think it's really it's it's
always been interesting to me like when I would watch, you
know a cuck who takes his role seriously and when I, my
introduction to it were with men who were there.
They were powerful men in the real world.
Yes. And like, it's really weird that
the transition that like as this thing becomes more popular.
So when I like, for me like I always felt like that was the
most authentic because these guys were very powerful in the
real world. They they were making decisions
for people all day, every day. And because of the type of
person they were, they took the role serious.
And so they would really get into that role.
And when you had a wife who was willing to get into that role
with them, it really brought the best out of their situation as
opposed to the ones where the wife would just kind of be like,
OK, I'm going to play along with this so I can get some cock.
It really it it changes it. It it's not the same, you know.
So it's cool to see that you are that you guys are both getting
into that role. And that makes that means that
in the beginning, like starting here, like you have so much more
potential. There's so much more stuff and
like no one's experience is the same it's it's it's like the
whole theory of chaos every it looks the same from over here.
But like when you get in closer, like everyone's path is
different. So your path is here, their path
is there, their path is there. It all looks the same from way
back here. But when you get in close and
start looking at those details, everybody's experience is so
different. And him being willing to say
this is where I'm going and he's going to put that same energy
into it that he's put into being a successful businessman, It's
going to be a lot of fun stuff. That's why I mean like a lot of
people, if you've listened to some of the things that I've
done, I've learned that my journey started out in BDSM and
it was like the the 1st girl who I ever like, like was AI wasn't
a top at the time, but the first girl who I've ever had that
experience with, she was like, I spit in her mouth and I did all
sorts of crazy shit and she was like, I am the boss of
everything. She's like at home, I'm a single
mom, I do this, I am the boss at work and when I want to get
fucked I want to be completely dominated.
And I think that that translates also to to some of the people
who are cucks as well. You know, it's like they want
that. And I'm not.
I'm not speaking in your situation and you know, and I
don't know your situation, but but I know there's a lot of
cucks who are the same way. It's like I want to be
submissive in a way because you know that that that is how they
feel about it. They there's.
But in the reality of it, there's a lot of people who are
cucks, who are some of the strongest people that I know.
You know, I don't know if I could go through some of the
stuff that a cup goes through and that that that that happens
in their relationship, you know, so.
And that's why I kind of hate that that perception.
You know, you see it going more mainstream.
You know, where people talk about cups, but it's always in a
weak way. You know, they always talk about
how if you're a cunt, you're a pussy.
You, you know, you're this and you're, you're weak.
And that's not the case because, I mean, I don't know if anybody
in here, if you know, met Herbie.
I've seen Herbie go through some shit.
But it's all about pleasing his wife.
That's all he wants to do. He will do anything to make his
wife happy. I could never do some of the
stuff Herbie does. Never.
But but that's all he does.
He does whatever he wants, whatever his wife, whatever his
queen wants he will do to make her happy.
So do. You want to jump?
In actually he had the peace I got.
I. Got.
So, so As for those who don't know, Michael C just jumped in.
He just walked in and we got kind of a little bit of an
audience now, but Michael C just jumped in and I got, I always
got to give a little kudos to this brother right here.
Because as I was starting down a lot of my journey for BDSM and
different types of stuff, Michael C was one of the first
people who I learned some stuff from.
So a little, a little little short story was when I I know
Mike's between 10 and 15 years. It's been about, yeah.
It was New Year's Eve 2010. 2010 OK, so 14 years now.
So we were up in New Jersey at a hotel party and one of his.
Well, not one, my slave. You.
Know. But Abby, I don't want.
I don't want to be throwing out shit.
I don't. Want to be talking about BDSM?
You know, I'd say in my pocket. His slave, his slave.
He was there with his slave and we were at a club.
We went to club and he's like, yo, my man, hold this leash for
me. I'm like, he had a slave on the
leash and and I was like, what the fuck?
So it was it was wow, you know, for me.
Now look at you with splash walking.
Around with now I understand that whole dynamic and
everything like that but this was this was the dude who kind
of got me. I mean he never he didn't it's
not like he he sat me down and and mentored me about a lot of
stuff. But that is where because
because I mean could be completely honest with you.
I remember walking into places and seeing I would I'll never
forget walking someplace at home in Buffalo NY and seeing
somebody with a leash on. Now this wasn't that type of
dynamic but I'll never forget my my experience walking and
looking at them saying what the fuck is they doing?
This is wrong. What the fuck is you doing?
But then after meeting this gentleman here and seeing it and
going through that and experiencing it was like he he
helped that he get here. Here's your leash you know you
you hold on to this and you make sure and and I it.
It's just been a a constant progression from that point.
But Michael C is is like one of the first people that I ever met
in a lifestyle that was like because I was, I was, I was
fucked up. I mean that was actually my
whole point of doing it like like publicly like that was
thinking that maybe this is somebody's first time meeting a
couple like this, so. Yeah, I had never.
Met him, give him an. Opportunity to come and ask
questions and see what is that dynamic really like as opposed
to what you might read online or you know or something like that.
So it was it was cool that you took that away from it because
that was really why I was doing it.
Like it wasn't to shock and boast and anything like that.
It was like, hey, these, maybe these people have never seen a
master slave couple, you know what I'm saying?
So I. Had never seen this environment.
Maybe they will have, you know, the confidence or the
inquisitiveness to say, hey, what, what is that?
What is this dynamic about? And kind of, you know, like I do
with the podcast, separate fact from fiction.
You know, like what was funny Is I taking her to parties.
And I've had people literally try to pull her in the bathroom
and like, rescue her, you know, Like, you don't, you don't have
to do this. You can come home with us.
Like I just like. Come over the head and.
Drag it to the party like like, but that's how limited people's
knowledge is of that like they see it and automatically think
like, much like cucks. Like they see a submissive woman
and they think, oh weak. And it's like, no, it's not
weak. Just like with cucks, people see
cucks and think, oh, weak. And it's like you're missing the
point. And and that, and that's the
thing I kind of touched on a little bit earlier is that, you
know, people, that's how I'm glad that it's more a little bit
mainstream because it gets not only not only the cuckold
dynamic but the lifestyle dynamic into more mainstream
type stuff. But but the perception is right
now, because if you're a cuck, you're weak.
You know, weak beta, it's become like a slang term.
It's become a slur to hurl at somebody to try to insult them.
Exactly that that's the perfect point.
You know it is something that that's hurled at somebody who
who is like if you're a cub, you're weak you're base you're
you're beta, you're you're and exactly the things that you
said. And that's exactly not what it
is. So I'm glad that you have
journeyed down this this and and welcome to cut Corner and
everything like that. Blondie, why don't you come up
here for a second? They they want you to.
OK, so Blondie and Jed, you guys have been down the cuckold
journey. How?
How are you guys with your journey?
Good. I think we're getting more.
I'm. I'm getting stronger and I'm
getting more confident and he's getting better at listening.
I'm. Better at?
Listening Blondie I love. I love me some Blondie, I love
me some Blondie I. Love you.
Too. So, but yeah, now we got a, we
we got a, we got a room full of people here, and now we're
supposed to have our little cocktail party.
But so Mr. Mocha, you want to wrap it up a little bit so we
can. Oh, Mikey, you can't be Mr.
Mocha. Nah.
We got a, we got a room full of people as as we started out with
Mr. Mocha said. We were about to go into our
little cocktail party and now we got a room full of participants
and everything like that. So we going to all.
Right. We'll wrap it up.
This is Old Faces Podcast. As always, we enjoy having Craig
Mister East Coast on hanging out with us and we're about to jump
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Yeah, that that was me messing
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