1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,040 Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:11,280 I'm your host Mr. Mocha. Joining me is my Co host for the 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,920 evening, Mister East Coast Craig McKinney. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,560 So. What's? 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,760 Up. So we are splash, Mocha coming 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,080 back again. We've actually been having a lot 7 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,720 of, well, everybody's been having a lot of fun but me 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,080 because I keep fucking falling asleep. 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,200 But. But we have the cocktail party 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,880 coming up here in about 30 minutes. 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,600 Man, it's so much, so much fun stuff to talk about. 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,560 We would have started earlier, but I've met a new one of my new 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,960 best friends here at the here Splash mocha. 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,760 You know, his his first time here and we were just running 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,920 our miles so now. Well, you got to say, you got to 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,400 remember, it's not only their first time here, this is their 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,040 first remember. This is their first. 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,040 Everything, yeah. Anything so. 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,680 Yeah, yeah, It's actually, I'm, I'm actually excited about them 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,600 because after being in this for for so many years, you meet 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,760 couples all the time and you can kind of pick out the couples who 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,800 are going to be around. You can pick out the couples who 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,600 are going to be influential. So, like, man, super cool guy, 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,560 super cool wife. She came in right away and 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,880 explained why she, why she was nervous about it. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:36,280 She broke down. What, what, what kind of scares 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,160 her about it, Which is weird because a lot of people get into 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,520 the lifestyle and they don't even know why they're afraid. 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,840 So that, to me is exciting. And then they've been here. 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,640 They've been social. She's been social. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,480 She's been flashing that smile more. 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,040 First day she came in, she kind of hit it. 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,480 Now she's, you know, we're on, we're at Saturday and she's not 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,080 afraid to smile. So yeah, I'm. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,240 I'm excited. I think that I think kind of 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,560 that's the testament of Splash, Mocha as well, because as we've 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:11,200 continually said, Splash is a very welcoming place, you know, 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,600 And every person that you talk to here, you meet people, you 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,520 may not need them, but you cross somebody that's walking through 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,840 the hallway and everybody is, hey, hey, hey, how you doing? 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,960 Good morning. Hello. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,400 How you doing? Nice to meet you. 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,240 So it's a very welcoming place and I think that has made them 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,320 feel more comfortable to to maybe not, I mean again because 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,560 this is their first time, maybe they haven't felt comfortable 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,000 with playing because they've never done anything whatsoever, 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,080 but at least it's made them more comfortable to be here, at least 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,280 you know. Yeah, yeah. 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,120 And I'm I'm. It's exciting to meet new 50 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,160 friends and excited it is. I can't explain in words how 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,000 much the lifestyle has changed my life. 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,680 And for us, we know what it's like for us to have this 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,760 connection for new people and lifestyle. 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Like for for them, you may not say to yourself, oh, you know, 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,480 we just met these guys and they say we're going to talk and 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,840 we're going to hang out. Yeah, whatever. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,560 They don't mean it. But for us, we're like, oh, 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,680 shit, like the first time I met him, we've been connected since, 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,120 man, that that's it. You know, it's he's been to my 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,640 home. He knows that I'm going to be in 61 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:27,640 Atlanta, you know, not to stay in the hotel. 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,120 You know, if you call me and say I'm staying in the hotel, you 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,000 better have a fucking business meeting an hour away or it's 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,040 like, was my home not good enough for you? 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,600 I mean, I kicked all the pet roaches out before you told me 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,000 you're coming. What the fuck is going on? 67 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,520 You know, so those are type of the friendships and 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,160 relationships you build. So we are looking forward to 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,880 that. But Craig, we have the cocktail 70 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,680 party coming up. What are we going to be looking 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,840 forward to seeing? Well, the cocktail party, I mean 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,240 we, I've talked about a little bit on the podcast a couple 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,640 times. I have a, a, a group on 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Telegram. It's a, it's a pretty exclusive 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,320 group, very kind of exclusive. So what happened was, to give 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,880 you a little bit of history about it, what happened was a 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,640 couple years ago, probably a little little more than 2 1/2 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,360 years ago, coming up on Houston, there were some people that 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,880 said, hey, I've heard that cups were not welcome at Splash. 80 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,560 And I was like, well, that's not true, you know? 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,280 So I created this group on Telegram where it was and I 82 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:43,800 invited a couple couples and said, hey, no, you, I want you 83 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,440 to understand that you are welcome at Splash. 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,000 You are welcome. You know you're a part of the 85 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,040 lifestyle and we want you to be here. 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:58,480 And so it started out with just a few people and it I invited a 87 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,720 couple cuckolds, and if originally it was just the 88 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,960 cucks, it wasn't the mistresses. Or the really? 89 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Yes, that's how it started out. It was just the cucks. 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,440 And then there was a couple cucks who they went through 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,920 their wives and and it was like, OK, so you know what, I'll add 92 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 the wife. So that way you can see what is 93 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,560 going on in the cuckold corner. And it kind of just grew after 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Houston. I was like, well, you know what, 95 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,280 why not let the wives in as well? 96 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,520 So it was the cucks. So this room that you're 97 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaking of was not a it's a, it's a telegram group. 98 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,440 So it was a virtual group basically. 99 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it. Was. 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Again it's on Telegram and it was it was just something that 101 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,560 again it just started kind of you know I just want you guys to 102 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,600 be comfortable with with being in Houston and it just kind of 103 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,160 after the after Houston it was like well why not just keep the 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,280 group, you know people are comfortable in here. 105 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,400 So it became OK so we'll we'll invite more people and it just 106 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,400 kind of grew and grew and grew so but it but again it's a very 107 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,560 exclusive group. We don't want people in there. 108 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:17,120 You know, just my thing is, if you're in there posting, you 109 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,480 know, there there. Now we do go into where we post 110 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,360 pictures and stuff like that. But for the most part, you don't 111 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,360 see a lot of pictures in there. But it's a lot of informational 112 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,680 stuff about how cages fit, what's the best cage for 113 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,080 somebody and all sorts of stuff. But then there's other stuff 114 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,080 that happens where there's just a lot of discussion, you know, 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,480 where one person in particular, I think, I don't think she would 116 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:51,000 mind me saying her name. Her last name is Woodstock, but 117 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,640 she messaged me one day and she was like, hey, I got a question 118 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,240 for you. And I was like, this is a good 119 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,720 question to ask in the cup group. 120 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,000 And she was like, you have a cup group. 121 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,560 I was like, yeah, So I asked the question in the cup group. 122 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,000 I added her and my intention was to delete her afterwards and she 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,640 was like, please do not delete me from this group. 124 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 I I, we are not in the cuckold dynamic. 125 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,720 But I love how things are in this group where we can discuss 126 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,800 things. You know, if you have a problem 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,800 with anything, it's not only cuckold discussions, it's about, 128 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,320 you know, a lot of different things. 129 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,520 So she's like they're not in the cuckold dynamic, but she's still 130 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 in the group, you know? But it it it's great because 131 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,480 there's a lot of stuff in there, not only again, cuckold dynamic 132 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,560 stuff, but lifestyle dynamic stuff. 133 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,640 And I don't mind inviting people, but it's all about, you 134 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,400 know, you you need to understand that this is not the your 135 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,000 typical telegram or any sort of group where you know it's it's 136 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,960 conversational and not just. And there's also there's a 137 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,000 certain Now here's the thing I'll tell you honestly I had to 138 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,440 beg to be letting to the group. You know, I noticed that he had 139 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,280 this group and I kept hearing about this group. 140 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,320 And I mean, here's the thing, like, I heard about this group, 141 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,440 you know, after, you know, he'd already fucked my wife and after 142 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,440 he'd been to my home and, you know, he, I mean all these, you 143 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,840 know, he said we were best friends. 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,400 All of this stuff, all of this stuff. 145 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,360 And then, you know, I I hear from some random citizen, Yeah, 146 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,600 I mean, me too. So I heard from some random, 147 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,560 heard from some random citizen about this cuckold corner group 148 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,960 and like, oh, wow, that's amazing. 149 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,799 Can you please introduce me to the owner of this group? 150 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:45,680 And then I find out that the owner of this group is none 151 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,680 other than my friend, pregnant kid. 152 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,600 I was hurt. I was devastated. 153 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,840 So I called him and you know. You just sent me a. 154 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Message. Wait, was it abrasive? 155 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,000 I'm not sure, no, it wasn't abrasive, but you sent me a 156 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,520 message. Yeah, I sent him abrasive shit 157 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,400 all the time, so I don't. Know about it. 158 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,240 I don't know where we were on that day. 159 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,120 I don't know. You'll find out soon. 160 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,800 So that's like, can I get in the group? 161 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,000 He's like, I'll get you the group. 162 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,680 So I've been busting shops about it. 163 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:16,280 But the cool thing about the group, the thing I like about 164 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,400 it, is all the people in the group can be vulnerable. 165 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 And when I say they can be vulnerable, there's certain 166 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,400 questions that they can ask that in most groups, people be like, 167 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,200 holy shit, did you just say that out loud? 168 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:33,160 It's weird to say this, you know? 169 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,680 And because I'm, I'm the first one to knock a lot of the weird 170 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:42,240 shit that goes on in in in the world today. 171 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:48,240 So I'll use the term safe space. There's a space for people who 172 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,760 are in the community to ask any question, no matter how 173 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,080 uncomfortable that question may be. 174 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,800 Because you know in the Coco groups as men there's certain 175 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,560 questions that we're not used to asking. 176 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:01,680 There's certain things that we're not used to saying you 177 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:07,120 know guys for for us because you know we we've kind of for us 178 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,520 doing the podcast and stuff like that. 179 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,160 We're used to getting those questions. 180 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:14,160 But I was not used to seeing those questions in a group where 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,400 a bunch of people would hear. So that was a really cool thing. 182 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,360 And then just watching the level of comfort that these these guys 183 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,720 had and that the the sensation that there's no judgement. 184 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,400 In fact. You get judged for judging, 185 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,600 which is nice. I mean, it's nice because you 186 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,760 can be direct, you can ask a question, you got all of these 187 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,960 people who even if people don't agree with you, they will say 188 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,400 why they don't agree, but it's not in a derogatory way. 189 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,400 Exactly, Exactly. Exactly. 190 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,840 And that's the thing. That's why, again, going back to 191 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,200 the picture thing, it's not, it's not a group where people 192 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,360 would just just post pictures and like I call it fishing, 193 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:57,040 where it's like you're fishing, you're sending out. 194 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Because most of the time, I mean, let's be honest, if 195 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,720 somebody posts a picture, it's about how sexually prowess 196 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,760 they're they they are, you know, it's like, OK, I I'm showing 197 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,800 this because I want someone to understand my Dick size or 198 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,680 something like that, you know? So like I said, I call it 199 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:19,720 fishing. But the group is not about that. 200 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,520 It's about like you said, you know, we come in there and it is 201 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,720 a safe space. It doesn't matter what your kink 202 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,360 is, whatever it is, you know people come in there and they 203 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,720 they say, hey I, I, I have a question about this what do you 204 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,200 guys think about this? And it doesn't matter what your 205 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,080 kink is, no matter what the fuck, anything, people can 206 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,560 answer honestly. And and if they are not into 207 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:46,840 that, they won't interject it at all in that in that 208 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,120 conversation, you know there's just this is what it is and you 209 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,600 get, you get honest feedback on everything. 210 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,080 And I think one thing that I enjoy is there's there's this 211 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,880 thing with me where like if it doesn't affect me, I don't give 212 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,680 a shit, you know, if it's not going to hurt me, I don't care. 213 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,440 So it it's not uncomfortable for me to be around the person who I 214 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,640 don't relate to. It doesn't make it weird or 215 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:18,280 uncomfortable. And I I love the the cuck, the 216 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,880 cuck corner group because don't get me wrong, playing with with 217 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,480 cuckold couples and things like that, there is a relation, but 218 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,960 there's also a an understanding. There's also things that I 219 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,680 personally don't relate to with the cucks being a bull, I don't 220 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:37,760 relate to cucks in a certain way, just like being a dude. 221 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,560 I don't relate to my wife in a certain way, you know, that 222 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,480 doesn't mean that I don't want to be around her. 223 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,960 That means that I don't relate. So in this group, the one thing 224 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,760 that I've enjoyed is there's a lot of things that I'm able to 225 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,480 to see and experience through them and understand them better. 226 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,400 That gives me a gives me a peek into their world. 227 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Just like with our podcast, when the guys are podcasting, we 228 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:13,880 don't filter for a reason, you know, And a lot of people think 229 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,800 that, oh, Mr. Mocha can be a Dick sometimes. 230 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,440 Mr. Mocha talks the way he talks with his buddies when no one is 231 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,560 listening. That's how I talk on him on the 232 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:28,560 podcast, because if you want to really see how guys talk, I'll 233 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,720 show you. That makes. 234 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,880 That makes for good podcast. Yeah, though, I mean honesty, 235 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,200 you know, you want honesty about stuff, you know? 236 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,960 And and that's to me the best thing about the Cup group is, is 237 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,840 that it's just honesty. You know, people can come in 238 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,600 there and they say again, I mean not to harp on this, but it's 239 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,960 just there's no judgement about stuff. 240 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,120 If you want to be pegged by a woman, hey you, you're going to 241 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,520 be pegged by a woman and and and they'll discuss. 242 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,680 It like you, they'll they'll talk about, they'll discuss it. 243 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:09,800 They'll they have like really in depth conversation about lots of 244 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,840 things that my brain doesn't even take me there like huh. 245 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,480 But and it's not that that's not even negative way. 246 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,440 It's like I never even thought about that. 247 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,960 So that's. The weird thing about the the 248 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,080 cut group too, though, is I don't know if you've noticed it, 249 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,720 Mr. Mocha is that you can sit in there and then throughout the 250 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,600 next couple days there may not be any interaction at all 251 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,920 through people, but then you'll look up and there's like 100. 252 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Yeah, someone says something. All of a sudden it's like holy. 253 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,960 It's like a huge discussion of stuff about this topic. 254 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,160 It's like, whoa, what happened in here? 255 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,680 Let me, let me, let me scroll back and see what happened. 256 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,480 Who said what to who? You know what topic was dropped 257 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,880 because that and that's the cool day. 258 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,040 And it's another thing where anyone can drop a topic. 259 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Anybody. Anyone can drop it and once they 260 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,200 pick it up and start rolling with it, it's yes, it it's a 261 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,520 snowball, which is great and to me is very educational when I 262 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,680 when I have time because then I was like fuck, I'm so lost. 263 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,920 So I got to go back, like I go back 50 threads. 264 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,840 So like I'm sitting there reading this shit like oh oh 265 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,600 that's what you know. But it it gives you good insight 266 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,200 into that world and I think it also helps. 267 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,000 It helps you reduce your level of judge mentalness by 268 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,720 experiencing things through multiple people's eyes and 269 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,200 multiple people's, you know, vantage points. 270 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,200 So. I have AI, have AI. 271 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,760 You know, a lot of people, you know, I've, I've, I've expressed 272 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,520 how I, you know, my journey from from nothing through the 273 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,120 lifestyle and everything. And that's one thing. 274 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Kind of one of the first things that I've experienced was, you 275 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,600 know, BDSM type stuff, you know, So I kind of learned that you 276 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,080 don't yuck somebody else's young. 277 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 You know that that's one of the things you don't yuck somebody 278 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,200 else's young. But we, I, I went through that 279 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,360 and yeah, come on, come on, come on, come on. 280 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,720 So that's why if if in the cup group it's like if you don't 281 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:33,160 like something you know it it the conversation will change you 282 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,600 know and and if if you're into this you have an interjection. 283 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,840 If you don't you're you're respectful about what is going 284 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,960 on in the group and and you don't say anything you know and 285 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,080 and that's why I'm again it's not that I don't want people in 286 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,040 the group I I want people in the group. 287 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,880 But it's like it's very selective because I want people 288 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,560 who are going to understand that and and and say hey this isn't 289 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,800 my kink. This isn't something that I'm 290 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,560 interested in, but I'm not going to say anything. 291 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,720 Yeah, and the second you wind up in a situation where someone 292 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,359 makes you feel uncomfortable for being you, people get quiet. 293 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,440 Right. So now you you you lose a lot. 294 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,760 And, you know, I think that that's a universal thing. 295 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,680 You know, if you if you want to learn something about a group of 296 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,319 people, shut the fuck up instead of going in and go, what the 297 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,440 fuck? Shit, let me not say anything 298 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,480 out loud. You just go in there and just 299 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,760 listen. And people, people will share 300 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,440 people explaining. At some point you lose that 301 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,440 judgmentalness, because at some point multiple people are going 302 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,920 to explain things and you're going to start understanding 303 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,920 where they're coming from, why they're. 304 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,360 And it still may not be your thing. 305 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,400 It still may. Listen, I personally, no matter 306 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,880 what, there's certain things I'm not going to want to do. 307 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:05,280 But I also am comfortable being in the environment because I 308 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,080 have listened to enough people say it's like, oh, I can 309 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,520 understand and I'm comfortable with that. 310 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040 So when you're putting together groups, you got to make sure you 311 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,160 don't put some asshat in there. That's going to stifle me, 312 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,680 right? It make everybody uncomfortable 313 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,960 being themselves and it and and it's the knee jerk reaction. 314 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Sometimes it is like there's I know, sometimes I know. 315 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,480 Sometimes my face is like, what the fuck? 316 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Whoa. And you know. 317 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,120 I mean, I mean, honestly, there's stuff that goes on in 318 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:34,560 the corner too. I'm just like, yeah, I'm not 319 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,560 into. That, yeah, yeah. 320 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,360 And I'm just like, you know what, let me scroll past that. 321 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:40,920 But you know, But again, there's no judgment. 322 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,800 It's just just, you know, don't yuck somebody else's Yum. 323 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,320 This is what they're interested in. 324 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,920 And they will get good information on what is going on 325 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,400 and you know and just scroll past that you know and and and 326 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,080 it is it. It it is what it is, you know 327 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,400 indeed. Well, the cook. 328 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,880 I know we've noticed. I've noticed a couple people 329 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,280 started to walk into. Yeah. 330 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Yes, it's it's almost 630. So it's time for us to wrap it 331 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:12,120 up as always. Hold on, I noticed I'm not. 332 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,720 I can't remember your name, but Tasha? 333 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,360 Yes Tasha, they are a new newer couple. 334 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,920 Cause have you noticed them as splash before? 335 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,560 I've seen them as splash before. How many splashes? 336 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Is it for you? I think I may have seen her 337 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,320 once. You've been here before. 338 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,400 How many splashes is this for you? 339 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,440 I think it's. Our 10 10th OK, so I've been to 340 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Splash about 10 times and they've just now started on a 341 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:47,720 cuckold dynamic, so I thank you for coming and well. 342 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Listen, you know, everything is a journey. 343 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Everything is a journey, you know? 344 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,240 So yeah, but they're definitely, they've been here before. 345 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,160 Yeah, I've seen them before. I've seen them. 346 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,160 I've noticed them before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 347 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,640 She's taking, she's taking, she's taking things for a ride. 348 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Hey. Why don't come up here for a 349 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,320 second. Come on up here for a second. 350 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,000 And and you are so we we were we were discussing the cuckold, you 351 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,400 know the the the cut group and everything like. 352 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,280 That. Are you OK talking? 353 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Yeah. OK. 354 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:34,680 So and and so we we were just discussing the the cuckold group 355 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,760 and everything like that. So what, Let me ask you, what is 356 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,000 it that that got you interested into that kind of lifestyle? 357 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,800 He actually started it. He kind of again. 358 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,280 We put in the lifestyle for years and pretty much tried 359 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,760 everything. So of course we want to explore 360 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,720 more and kind of started reading on the cocoa dynamic and 361 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,200 benefits and pros and cons. So we started trying it out. 362 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,920 He kind of likes it more for the edging type aspect of it. 363 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,200 The the denial is pretty hot. I've gotten into it. 364 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,800 I didn't think I would, honestly, at first, but it was. 365 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,040 It's been fun trying things out. OK. 366 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,000 So you said you weren't into it at first. 367 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,600 Has is this something that has kind of grown on you or or? 368 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Was there a certain aspect that you weren't into? 369 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,360 I think it was the stereotype going into it, that it was a 370 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 weak man or. He looked. 371 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,160 Down on him, which is totally not the case. 372 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,280 And so learning that and getting past that, I'm like this. 373 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,160 That's not what this is about. I think that that that's 374 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,480 something where the cup corner has kind of helped out with a 375 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,880 lot of stuff because I mean, even to me, I mean you see me 376 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,120 wearing the make cut coat and great again hat and all sorts of 377 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,120 stuff. But even now in media and 378 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,160 everything nowadays, you hear somebody say, oh, he's a cuck. 379 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,360 You know the the word cuck has become prominent in a lot of 380 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,160 stuff now. And a cuck is supposed to be a 381 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,040 weak man who's a Sissy and this and that. 382 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,800 And being in the cut corner group, you've learned that being 383 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,640 a cuck doesn't mean that it it it, it's not a person who's 384 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,720 bisexual. It's not a person who is a Sissy 385 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,000 or or or weak or anything like that. 386 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,520 It's just a person who like I wear my hat, make cuckolding 387 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:52,200 great again and if someone asks me, I tell them it's a person 388 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:58,200 who is a female led relationship where she is more in control of 389 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:04,800 things sexually and in the relationship than what it 390 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,280 normally. Is. 391 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,280 And then keep in mind like the term cuckold is the the way 392 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000 within the lifestyle. The way we use the word cuckold 393 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,240 is the way people use the word slut. 394 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,440 Inside the lifestyle, Inside the lifestyle you can you can enjoy 395 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,160 being a slut. Inside the lifestyle you can 396 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,680 enjoy being a cuck, you know because understand traditionally 397 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,520 you know cuckold is an insult. You know, traditionally being 398 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,800 cucked is something that is happening to you, you know? 399 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,520 So yeah, out in the regular world, I mean, this is a term 400 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,160 that's been around for hundreds of years. 401 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,120 We make it mean something different, you know, But like 402 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:50,840 I've told people before, one of one of the first cucks that I've 403 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:56,720 ever met was actually one of the one of the toughest human beings 404 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:04,400 that I know like military, like like like real hardcore inside 405 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,280 of the scene. He was this inside the scene. 406 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,480 But if we walked outside and you did that same thing, you might 407 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,120 lose something he feels like arm or leg. 408 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,880 So. So it's it's understanding that 409 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,480 during play time, you know. So it's that balance of what is. 410 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,600 And there is somebody in the group actually who said that. 411 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,200 And and I mean, again, it's something that I've learned from 412 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,760 being in the cut group again myself is that no, because he is 413 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,440 submissive to his wife doesn't mean that he's submissive to 414 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,680 you. You know, he's submissive and he 415 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,120 wants to sit here and watch and his and and see his wife do this 416 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:48,760 and that. But that doesn't mean. 417 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,760 And there was actually somebody in the group who said one time, 418 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,640 if you do this, I will fuck you up. 419 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080 This is not. I'm an ex Marine and I am this 420 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,560 and that. And he said I would no, you're 421 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 not going to talk to me and treat me like this, you know. 422 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:08,000 Yes, I am submissive to her and and again a lot of people the 423 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,440 perception is if you're a cub you're just completely 424 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,640 submissive and and this is how it is and. 425 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,480 There's not. How it is there's? 426 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,120 Levels to it. There's levels to. 427 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,280 It like Biggie said, you know there's levels to it so and and 428 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,200 and again it's something that I learned from from having the 429 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,360 group where it's like there are levels this person doesn't like 430 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:34,320 this and and what you should do is you should talk to that 431 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,640 couple before you get into that. Before you start telling me he's 432 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,720 a Sissy and he's this and he's that, you should talk to them 433 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560 and say what is your dynamic what are. 434 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280 I understand you're a covenant what are you into or what are 435 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,400 you not into? Can I talk to him this way? 436 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,520 Can you do this and that you know so is is that something 437 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,280 that that I mean I I see him back there nodding his head and 438 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,040 everything you know so is this something that and you said you 439 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,920 were in the lifestyle of what 15 years or is that something that 440 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,000 is that something that could have deterred you from going 441 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,720 into this lifestyle because the the perception of of how a cock 442 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,240 is or I think. So the again is the typical 443 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,280 stereotype which I believed you know not really knowing myself 444 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:34,880 but after it's really made him more I guess like focused and 445 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,200 like aware when we're in that kind of dynamic. 446 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,680 He's very much an alpha male leads his company. 447 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 I mean he he's control of everything all the time. 448 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,000 This is his way of letting go, not having to be in control all 449 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,880 the time. It's like his release, a little 450 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:00,880 bit downtime and it it's been really good for us we've we've 451 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840 really learned. How long, how long have you has 452 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,760 it the transition been into? How long have you been kind of 453 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,800 doing the the cuckold dynamic? Because I like I said, I've seen 454 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,440 you several times here, but I didn't know that that was a 455 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,280 dynamic. How, when did you start doing 456 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,520 the cuckolding dynamic? About a year ago, about. 457 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,120 A year ago. We've we've done, we've kind of 458 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,960 narrowed it down to hot wiping about four years ago really 459 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,720 enjoyed that kind of aspect and then about a year is when we 460 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,120 started exploring the cuckold, the the caging and how that kind 461 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,440 of works. No. 462 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,240 Is he is he someone who is caged all the time or is it something? 463 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,280 Because again to me this is again I I wear the hat and make 464 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,400 coating great again. But there's a lot of shit in 465 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,760 there that that you don't know, you know? 466 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,840 So is he someone who, is he caged? 467 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,360 I mean, you're starting out on this journey, so he's somebody 468 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:03,760 that's not caged 24 hours a day. Is he caged only while you are 469 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,480 playing or or what is the cage situation with that? 470 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Well now it's definitely caged, the whole event of Splash. 471 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Anytime we do a splash, he's caged until the end. 472 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,800 There'll there'll be times at home, maybe a week, we'll go 473 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,000 maybe a week or so and see how that goes. 474 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Definitely during playtime. It really helps his mindset, I 475 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,240 guess. Kind of. 476 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Helped create the scene. Yeah, it does. 477 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,040 It really does. And he's he's honestly like very 478 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,520 attentive, Not even just in the bedroom, but during that week 479 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,480 that he's caged, he's attentive to me. 480 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:51,920 He's horny 24 hours a day. I mean, he's very, very just 481 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,480 hypersensitive I think the whole time. 482 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,080 So it it's not even just in the bedroom and it's the whole time 483 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,240 he's caged it's it's really interesting to see him change. 484 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,760 And you know that it's funny because there was one couple 485 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,240 that was in the group that said something similar to that where 486 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,920 where after he got caged, he was more attentive about everything 487 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040 that happened in the house. He's like, do you want me to 488 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,040 clean up? Do you want me to do this or do 489 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880 you want me to do this? So I mean that that's a 490 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,240 testament to that in itself, you know, I mean. 491 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880 And your level of commitment, I I think it's really it's it's 492 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,560 always been interesting to me like when I would watch, you 493 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,840 know a cuck who takes his role seriously and when I, my 494 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,200 introduction to it were with men who were there. 495 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,320 They were powerful men in the real world. 496 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,600 Yes. And like, it's really weird that 497 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,360 the transition that like as this thing becomes more popular. 498 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,360 So when I like, for me like I always felt like that was the 499 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160 most authentic because these guys were very powerful in the 500 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,760 real world. They they were making decisions 501 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,800 for people all day, every day. And because of the type of 502 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,720 person they were, they took the role serious. 503 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,120 And so they would really get into that role. 504 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,760 And when you had a wife who was willing to get into that role 505 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:26,080 with them, it really brought the best out of their situation as 506 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,280 opposed to the ones where the wife would just kind of be like, 507 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,760 OK, I'm going to play along with this so I can get some cock. 508 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,960 It really it it changes it. It it's not the same, you know. 509 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,080 So it's cool to see that you are that you guys are both getting 510 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,520 into that role. And that makes that means that 511 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,720 in the beginning, like starting here, like you have so much more 512 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,400 potential. There's so much more stuff and 513 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,160 like no one's experience is the same it's it's it's like the 514 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,520 whole theory of chaos every it looks the same from over here. 515 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,680 But like when you get in closer, like everyone's path is 516 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,680 different. So your path is here, their path 517 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600 is there, their path is there. It all looks the same from way 518 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000 back here. But when you get in close and 519 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,320 start looking at those details, everybody's experience is so 520 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,880 different. And him being willing to say 521 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,440 this is where I'm going and he's going to put that same energy 522 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,920 into it that he's put into being a successful businessman, It's 523 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,360 going to be a lot of fun stuff. That's why I mean like a lot of 524 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,400 people, if you've listened to some of the things that I've 525 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,520 done, I've learned that my journey started out in BDSM and 526 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,360 it was like the the 1st girl who I ever like, like was AI wasn't 527 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,800 a top at the time, but the first girl who I've ever had that 528 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,480 experience with, she was like, I spit in her mouth and I did all 529 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,160 sorts of crazy shit and she was like, I am the boss of 530 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,600 everything. She's like at home, I'm a single 531 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,360 mom, I do this, I am the boss at work and when I want to get 532 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,240 fucked I want to be completely dominated. 533 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,920 And I think that that translates also to to some of the people 534 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720 who are cucks as well. You know, it's like they want 535 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,360 that. And I'm not. 536 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,200 I'm not speaking in your situation and you know, and I 537 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,240 don't know your situation, but but I know there's a lot of 538 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,560 cucks who are the same way. It's like I want to be 539 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,200 submissive in a way because you know that that that is how they 540 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,320 feel about it. They there's. 541 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:39,880 But in the reality of it, there's a lot of people who are 542 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,560 cucks, who are some of the strongest people that I know. 543 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840 You know, I don't know if I could go through some of the 544 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,400 stuff that a cup goes through and that that that that happens 545 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880 in their relationship, you know, so. 546 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,800 And that's why I kind of hate that that perception. 547 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,320 You know, you see it going more mainstream. 548 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360 You know, where people talk about cups, but it's always in a 549 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,840 weak way. You know, they always talk about 550 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840 how if you're a cunt, you're a pussy. 551 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,040 You, you know, you're this and you're, you're weak. 552 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280 And that's not the case because, I mean, I don't know if anybody 553 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,040 in here, if you know, met Herbie. 554 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,880 I've seen Herbie go through some shit. 555 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,520 But it's all about pleasing his wife. 556 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880 That's all he wants to do. He will do anything to make his 557 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,200 wife happy. I could never do some of the 558 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640 stuff Herbie does. Never. 559 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Never. But but that's all he does. 560 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,720 He does whatever he wants, whatever his wife, whatever his 561 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,640 queen wants he will do to make her happy. 562 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,840 So do. You want to jump? 563 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,200 In actually he had the peace I got. 564 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,120 I. Got. 565 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,800 So, so As for those who don't know, Michael C just jumped in. 566 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,960 He just walked in and we got kind of a little bit of an 567 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,920 audience now, but Michael C just jumped in and I got, I always 568 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,280 got to give a little kudos to this brother right here. 569 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,840 Because as I was starting down a lot of my journey for BDSM and 570 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,320 different types of stuff, Michael C was one of the first 571 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,280 people who I learned some stuff from. 572 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,400 So a little, a little little short story was when I I know 573 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Mike's between 10 and 15 years. It's been about, yeah. 574 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,120 It was New Year's Eve 2010. 2010 OK, so 14 years now. 575 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,639 So we were up in New Jersey at a hotel party and one of his. 576 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,480 Well, not one, my slave. You. 577 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Know. But Abby, I don't want. 578 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,520 I don't want to be throwing out shit. 579 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,400 I don't. Want to be talking about BDSM? 580 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,159 You know, I'd say in my pocket. His slave, his slave. 581 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,480 He was there with his slave and we were at a club. 582 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,560 We went to club and he's like, yo, my man, hold this leash for 583 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,679 me. I'm like, he had a slave on the 584 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:57,680 leash and and I was like, what the fuck? 585 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,640 So it was it was wow, you know, for me. 586 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,440 Now look at you with splash walking. 587 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Around with now I understand that whole dynamic and 588 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,480 everything like that but this was this was the dude who kind 589 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,440 of got me. I mean he never he didn't it's 590 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,520 not like he he sat me down and and mentored me about a lot of 591 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,760 stuff. But that is where because 592 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,560 because I mean could be completely honest with you. 593 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,240 I remember walking into places and seeing I would I'll never 594 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:30,480 forget walking someplace at home in Buffalo NY and seeing 595 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,760 somebody with a leash on. Now this wasn't that type of 596 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,560 dynamic but I'll never forget my my experience walking and 597 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,720 looking at them saying what the fuck is they doing? 598 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,480 This is wrong. What the fuck is you doing? 599 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,560 But then after meeting this gentleman here and seeing it and 600 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,760 going through that and experiencing it was like he he 601 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,160 helped that he get here. Here's your leash you know you 602 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,360 you hold on to this and you make sure and and I it. 603 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,280 It's just been a a constant progression from that point. 604 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,280 But Michael C is is like one of the first people that I ever met 605 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,120 in a lifestyle that was like because I was, I was, I was 606 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,800 fucked up. I mean that was actually my 607 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,520 whole point of doing it like like publicly like that was 608 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,960 thinking that maybe this is somebody's first time meeting a 609 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,840 couple like this, so. Yeah, I had never. 610 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,280 Met him, give him an. Opportunity to come and ask 611 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,920 questions and see what is that dynamic really like as opposed 612 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,160 to what you might read online or you know or something like that. 613 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560 So it was it was cool that you took that away from it because 614 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,840 that was really why I was doing it. 615 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,200 Like it wasn't to shock and boast and anything like that. 616 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,360 It was like, hey, these, maybe these people have never seen a 617 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,240 master slave couple, you know what I'm saying? 618 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,280 So I. Had never seen this environment. 619 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,400 Maybe they will have, you know, the confidence or the 620 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,240 inquisitiveness to say, hey, what, what is that? 621 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:55,880 What is this dynamic about? And kind of, you know, like I do 622 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,840 with the podcast, separate fact from fiction. 623 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,680 You know, like what was funny Is I taking her to parties. 624 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,320 And I've had people literally try to pull her in the bathroom 625 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,680 and like, rescue her, you know, Like, you don't, you don't have 626 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,800 to do this. You can come home with us. 627 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,800 Like I just like. Come over the head and. 628 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,960 Drag it to the party like like, but that's how limited people's 629 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,400 knowledge is of that like they see it and automatically think 630 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,520 like, much like cucks. Like they see a submissive woman 631 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,320 and they think, oh weak. And it's like, no, it's not 632 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,720 weak. Just like with cucks, people see 633 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:33,720 cucks and think, oh, weak. And it's like you're missing the 634 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,160 point. And and that, and that's the 635 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400 thing I kind of touched on a little bit earlier is that, you 636 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,600 know, people, that's how I'm glad that it's more a little bit 637 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,480 mainstream because it gets not only not only the cuckold 638 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,000 dynamic but the lifestyle dynamic into more mainstream 639 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000 type stuff. But but the perception is right 640 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,320 now, because if you're a cuck, you're weak. 641 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,560 You know, weak beta, it's become like a slang term. 642 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,680 It's become a slur to hurl at somebody to try to insult them. 643 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,280 Exactly that that's the perfect point. 644 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,920 You know it is something that that's hurled at somebody who 645 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,400 who is like if you're a cub, you're weak you're base you're 646 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,600 you're beta, you're you're and exactly the things that you 647 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,720 said. And that's exactly not what it 648 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,920 is. So I'm glad that you have 649 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,240 journeyed down this this and and welcome to cut Corner and 650 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,640 everything like that. Blondie, why don't you come up 651 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:37,960 here for a second? They they want you to. 652 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:45,640 OK, so Blondie and Jed, you guys have been down the cuckold 653 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,440 journey. How? 654 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,000 How are you guys with your journey? 655 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,000 Good. I think we're getting more. 656 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,840 I'm. I'm getting stronger and I'm 657 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,240 getting more confident and he's getting better at listening. 658 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,760 I'm. Better at? 659 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,320 Listening Blondie I love. I love me some Blondie, I love 660 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,640 me some Blondie I. Love you. 661 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:14,200 Too. So, but yeah, now we got a, we 662 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,280 we got a, we got a room full of people here, and now we're 663 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,440 supposed to have our little cocktail party. 664 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,560 But so Mr. Mocha, you want to wrap it up a little bit so we 665 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,440 can. Oh, Mikey, you can't be Mr. 666 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:25,760 Mocha. Nah. 667 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,400 We got a, we got a room full of people as as we started out with 668 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,240 Mr. Mocha said. We were about to go into our 669 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:39,240 little cocktail party and now we got a room full of participants 670 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,080 and everything like that. So we going to all. 671 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,040 Right. We'll wrap it up. 672 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:49,400 This is Old Faces Podcast. As always, we enjoy having Craig 673 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,040 Mister East Coast on hanging out with us and we're about to jump 674 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,120 into the cocktail party. And as usual, if you enjoy 675 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,440 listening to Old Faces Podcast, you can listen to us wherever 676 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,000 you get your podcast that is spelled OFACEZ. 677 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,760 And until next time, don't. Forget to 1. 678 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,680 No, that's only on Twitter. It's only on Twitter. 679 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,760 It's only on Twitter. Yeah, that that was me messing 680 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,240 stuff up.