Hello, and welcome to another episode of Old Faces.
I'm your host, Mr. Mocha, and today in this segment of the
cutting board, I have a very, very good friend who you'll be
hearing from quite a bit. We actually did a podcast.
He he joined, joined us at Mocha and now he's back.
Brian, welcome. Thank you very much, Mr. Mocha.
It's a pleasure to be here. It is a pleasure to have you on.
I of course I'm excited to have you on just because the last
time we had a chance to hang out and and record, I realized that
we're on the same page on a lot of things.
So that was that was actually fun.
I think that podcast we did together, I kind of sat back and
let you do a lot of the talking, which is weird because I love
running my mouth. So I figured this time I want
the people to get to, I don't do a proper introduction.
All right, so I'm going to start.
We're going to start from the very, very beginning.
OK, in the lifestyle. What are what are you in the
lifestyle single. I am Bowl, I am AI am a single
sensual, mature sexual, insatiable alpha bull.
But at the same time I am I am known as the Sigma male with an
alpha presence. All right, so you know, we like
to educate people. You got to explain what do you
mean when you say a Sigma male. A Sigma male in the in the
archetype, everyone knows what what an alpha male is, what a
beta male is. You know, we know an alpha is
that that that lion, all right, He likes to be the leader.
He likes to be out front. He likes to be seen.
He likes to be heard. He died.
He dominates in his own. You know, I'm not going to say a
forceful way, but he's, like I said, he's seen, he's, you know,
he wants to be in front of everybody.
A Sigma male. A Sigma male, although dominant,
we are very, very introverted. We, we, we, we don't, we are
the, the introverted alpha male without a pack.
OK, We don't run in a pack. It's very, very seldom.
And here I am, I'm Speaking of myself.
It's very, very seldom that I connect with a lot of guys.
You maybe two or three more guys, you know, in our pack I've
I connect with, but a lot of guys I just cannot.
I can't. I might know you, you know, we
might get along very, very well, but in the life, I don't even
say lifestyle anymore because this is my life that I live
24/7. In the life I connect with only
maybe two or three guys, you and I, you know, connected just
wonderfully a splash. I mean, from the moment that we
met, from the moment that we did the podcast, from the moment
that we had, you know, a certain encounter with a young lady,
everything just clicked. Everything, everything clicked.
And that Sigma male is, is often, let me give you some
characteristics of myself and maybe other Sigma males.
Usually we are, and here again, not trying to be conceited, but
usually we are good looking, successful.
We're dominant in our own way. We're influential loners.
You know what I mean? We set our own rules.
We're not afraid to like, cross the line on certain things.
We don't necessarily follow a lead.
But if an alpha male is a lion, then a Sigma male is a tiger.
OK, Equally as powerful, equally as successful.
Successful. But we run in in not a pack, you
know what I mean? We're that.
We're that introverted loner. OK, so I guess you know that's
that's that's you. Worry about following the status
quo you're going to. Do what you're going to do.
There is no status quo for me. You know, people say, well, you
know, you think outside the box. Hell, Mocha, there is no box for
me, OK? There's no box.
OK, so now the next question is this, you know we now that they
get to know who you are, how long have you been in the
lifestyle and how did you even how are you introduced to it?
OK, let me give you my background first and foremost.
I served this country for 24 years in the United States Army.
Out of that 24 years I lived in Germany For 14 of those 24,
there is where I was. I call it Christian or baptized
into this life. I was 20, what, 2627 years old
and I had a penchant for older women.
I mean, even there, here I am, I'm, I'm 57 now.
I still love to see a gorgeous 60 plus or gorgeous like 6566
year old woman. You know, it just does something
to me. And here again, I was christened
by a very, very beautiful Russian woman who was at the
time, I want to say 48 or 49. And I was like I said, 27, I
think 27 years old and she pretty much changed my life.
I met her. I won't go into the all of the
details. It was a very long story, but
she bought me into this life and it changed me forever.
I mean, it really did. I was able to see things
relationship wise in a whole nother manner.
You know, although I was young, I was able to come into to to
the lives of like couples and I realized man, how much that I
could like enhance their marriage.
You know what I mean? Made their marriage greater than
what it was. And like I said, it's the
greatest thing that ever happened to me.
So you're looking at somebody that's been in this life for
like 30 years now. Now let me say this.
We didn't have all of the, the, you know, acronyms and you know,
the names. We didn't know what a hot wife
was then. We didn't know what a coupled
was then. But I was going to what we were
just, we were just called black and white parties.
And it was just like, it was just like going to like a
version of splash mocha, only maybe a little smaller, you
know, not a not a hotel takeover, but but maybe like a
floor. And you would invite say like
1520 guys and then you got 30. It's 30 some couples you know,
and the whole floors were in and out and it was it was on.
I mean the ladies are just European women are just so
uninhibited, so uninhibited man. I mean they approach you and
the. Husband, we don't get to that.
We go into that. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
So your introduction into the lifestyle when you're in the
military and I, I do like one thing I do like, you know,
because I've been the lifestyle long enough to where, you know,
it was when I got into lifestyle, it was the labels
were not as important. You just did what Phil's right.
And of course, as things evolved and it became more socially
acceptable, you start getting names just so you can kind of
identify, OK, what type of situation am I going into, blah,
blah, blah. But you know, I, I definitely
agree with that. You said something about
enhancing the life of couples. But before we get there, as a
single male in the lifestyle, how has it affected?
How has a lifestyle affected your life?
Oh man, I see relationships now totally different, differently,
you know, I consider myself and then we talk about it all the
time. I consider myself a quality
bull, you know, and, and a quality bull that to me should
be able to like to adjust to a specific dynamic requested by
couples. You know what I mean?
You meet certain couples and, and, and you got to get in there
and you got to, you got to exude a mix of power, a mix of
dominance as well as validation. You know, it can be so
intoxicating in this dynamic. You know that as well as
pleasurable, but you, you, you as a bull, you need a role.
You need to require a unique sense of self, you know what I
mean? You, you need to be able to, to
tap into one's physical and emotional boundaries along with
the, along with like a commitment to communication, you
know, while seeking fulfillment and connection.
I mean, I, I can't sum up any more than that.
And that has totally changed the way I look at the couples who,
like attend Splash rather than the couples in the vanilla
lifestyle. I mean, the the vanilla world,
you know, I say all the time, I tell people all the time, I was
like, I I've met some of the happiest couples in the
lifestyle in this world. You know what I mean?
Compared to the regular couples in the vanilla world who are
just seen to be a clueless, be unhappy, see unsatisfied.
You understand what I'm saying? I mean, you know, yeah.
So that's, that's how so that's how that has changed me.
I mean, I just see things totally different now
relationship wise. And when I can come in and you
know, not necessarily take over, take over, you know, a couple's
life or anything like that, but just come in and just like I
said, blend in because they already they, you know, they've
already discussed exactly what they want.
They're always just, they want that they know what they want.
They know what they need and desire.
And I just come in and I just try to try myself to listen,
communicate, and then blend in, you know?
And that just, that just makes it good, man, That makes it
good. I love it.
So I know that, you know, for me, especially when I was
single, one of the things that I've like I talk about all the
time is just how do I, how do you separate yourself from other
guys? And how do what do you do that
makes you a quality bull? And I'll say this, you know,
just to paint the picture, you know, I always forget how old
you are because of the way you keep yourself together.
Like you're no one is going to look at you and guess your age.
Like that's that, that's not going to happen.
Based upon his physique, you know, you can tell that he's
taking care of himself. So no one's going to guess his
age. And you know, you know, he's
take, I mean, he takes care of himself very much.
So that's one of the things that, you know, when I you, when
you listen to him, he's being very honest.
There's, there's nothing braggadocious about him.
You know, he still works out like a savage, you know, so
saying, saying that, you know, I know physically, that's one of
the things that you have maintained very well, you know,
well above average. Well, to, I mean, listen, I mean
that the beauty, the beauty about that is like it's it
speaks for itself, you know, and I'm always going to give credit,
you know, as a person who's been a gym rat my whole life, when I
see a fellow gym rat and you know, knowing that, you know, I
can look like you when I'm that age is.
Makes me feel good, you know, It makes me very happy to know.
That I can I can look like that at your age, but aside from the
physical part, what intellectual and emotional attributes have
you honed to separate yourself from other guys?
I think my, a, my communication skills that I think they're
paramount. I think they're, I'm able to
understand and respect the couple's dynamic, you know, in
their marriage, never, ever disrespecting the bond that they
have created. You know what I mean?
Like I said, I'm here to enhance and heighten, you know, the
couple's love for one another. And in doing that, I mean, you
can, you can, you know, you can relieve tension by, you know,
providing excitement and pleasure, You know what I'm
saying? Because to me, that's, that's my
responsibility. My, my responsibility is to make
that queen and that husband, whether he's a cuckold or a
stag, made the dreams come true, you know, establish a
relationship with with them. That's both, you know, like
consensual and, and, and challenging for all you know,
for all three of us, the more emotions.
That right there is that's huge. You know, there's so much that
you can dig into when you talk about the communication and
making people's dreams come true because there there's a fantasy
when when someone invites you into their bedroom.
Yeah. And Oh yeah, being able to, to
fulfill that, that, I mean, that's a hell of a thing.
So. Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
You got to be. You have to as as a, as a, as
that quality bull mocha. I feel like you got to be, you
got to be in alignment with the goals of a couple, you know what
I mean? Because the more, the more, the
more emotions and excitement that you can bring to the table,
the more explosiveness everything is going to be.
I mean, not just the sexual chemistry, but I'm talking about
getting inside. You know how we say, hey, I want
to get in between your ears also, you know what I mean?
I, I, I want you to be at work thinking about, you know, damn,
I'm thinking about Brian Morgan right now.
You know, you know how he not not only just made me feel
physically, but the way that he made the both of us, you know, I
mean, we left him and came home and we couldn't damn take our
hands off each other. I mean that, that to me, that's,
that's mission accomplished for me.
It really is. That's mission accomplished and
get. Between getting between the
years like that's. Yeah, Oh yeah, that.
Oh yeah, that. I think I who do I have?
I just had, I just had a debate, you know, You know, me and Mike,
see, we get into our little, our little debates.
Out. I was about to say it was
probably Michael, wasn't it? It was Mike.
And it was last night and I was saying that sex is is
psychological always. Yes, yes, yes.
Sex to me is put on the back burner when I meet a couple.
You know what I mean? I need two things.
I need trust and comfort and that takes time to develop.
You know what I mean? And as as that quality bull, I
need to be patient, you know, I mean, I need to be patient and
give things time, all right, because OK, I'm I'm going to go
back to to to splash Atlanta. All right, our encounter with
our couple who, who, who came to the Super Bowl instead of going
through the preliminaries, you know what I mean?
You you remember, you remember how you came to the Super Bowl
and and and got there and I thought I was going to have to
call an ambulance, you know what I mean?
But though, but though you being there and being able to see that
also when I walked in with her, the way you just just I mean, it
was just like a. You got to, you got to give the
listeners a play by play of the whole of this.
Interaction Well, OK, that that's OK, OK.
I had this couple who I had spoken to for maybe, maybe two
weeks tops. I, I had like 3 phone calls from
them and they were very, very adamant had never ever attended
any type of events before ever. She had played with maybe 2
black 2 black men. That was it.
I and they decided when I talked to them, I told them I asked the
question had they ever attended, you know any events and they
were like no and asked me what did I attend?
I said well I'm headed to this event called Splash Mocha and
they were like what is Splash mocha out?
Of course I explained what it, what it was and I told him, I
said, now that's, that's kind of like a, a very, very big time
event. And that's when I told him.
I said, I said, look for her. I said, that's, this is the
Super Bowl that you go into. I said, this isn't something,
you know, for the faint of heart.
I said, there's going to be a big nice hotel and it's going to
be full of, of, of beautiful hot wife couples and about, you
know, in between 90 to 100, you know, single black, black males.
And they wanted to come, and they came here again.
I'm upstairs on that Friday. Well, they called and said that,
you know, they couldn't get a room right there at the main
hotel. So they stayed across the
street. And they were like, Brian, you
know, we're coming over. So they came over.
I get dressed and go downstairs to meet them at Mocha.
When I walked out the front door, I see this white car
speeding off, you know, from the front.
And I'm saying to myself, I was like, I know that's not them.
Well, the security looked at me and they were like, hey man, you
know, were you waiting on a couple?
I was like, yes. He said.
He said dog, quote UN quote. She opened the door, took a step
out, had a panic attack, jumped back in and said drive off.
They went around the building like twice.
They went around the building twice, you know, came back.
So I called, I said look, I said go around to the side and park.
I said sit there ever how long You need to, you know, to sit
and I'm going to stand here when you guys are ready, come back
around, see. I didn't know this part of the
saga. Yeah, yeah.
About 15 minutes went by. I started to give up.
I started to but then they walked around the corner and I
could tell immediately I was like, OK, she uses fine and says
that those pictures, you know she's gorgeous now that she she
walks up to me, they walk up to me, he greets me, I greet him.
She will not look at me. She is looking down at the
ground. OK, and I'm saying to myself, Oh
my. And she's shaking.
She is shaking like a freaking Leech.
And I'm, you know, I, I, I look at him and I kind of like wish
to him, you know, it's OK to like, you know, that, you know,
to touch her and everything. And he was like, go ahead and do
your thing. And so.
You, you drop in, you drop in little gems here.
Tell me why. You just explain to people why
you did that. Well, because, yeah, yeah,
because you always, I always, I always show the utmost respect
to that husband first and foremost.
I, I don't care if it's a beginner's meet and greet or if
I have been with you on the regular and you are like a
regular couple that I go and see, I don't know, 2-3 times a
month or whatever I spend the night with, etcetera, etcetera.
I will never, ever not acknowledge that husband before
I, you know, do something, especially in a situation like
that, especially in a situation like that, because both of them
were green. You know what I mean?
Both are green. But this, this man is, is, is
trusting me. He's entrusting me to take his,
his and I hate to say the word like possession, but his most
prized possession, the woman who he loves, the woman who he's
married to, the woman who has his kids.
All right. He is looking for me to take her
and bring her into an into an environment that both of them
are clueless about. You know, yes, they play with
two black men, but that's just that's just a single effort.
You know what I mean? Like I said, you're coming into
a whole nother world, a whole nother life.
Like I said, I don't see a lifestyle for you and I.
We live in this world, correct indeed, and we love it 24 and we
love it 24/7. So when I was able to finally to
finally and I went from touching her hand lightly, gently, OK, so
like rubbing her her hand. And then she took my hand, man,
she took my hand like I like I thought she was grabbing a
thing, a pair of pliers, OK. And I literally I was like, Lord
have mercy. I'm like, you know, I said,
Brian, you can't be in bull mode right now.
You just got to be in in like very, very nice, Brian, You know
what I mean? You know, I'm here for you.
And I was finally able Mocha to to take my index finger and put
it up on her chin and lift her head up and all I said, I said I
got you. I got you.
And she looked at me and I said we're going to take some baby
steps and go inside, like, you know, like a question.
And she took my hand and she came.
She. It took us a few minutes to walk
inside. Yeah.
Well, when I saw you, when I saw you, she seemed fine to me.
Well, she when we when we got in, I said, you going, I said,
you going to see some beautiful black men in here?
I said, everybody in here is family, OK?
And they're going to greet you and they're going to want you
guys to have the greatest, you know, experience possible.
I said it doesn't matter if you have sex or not.
I like you can watch. You can be a voyeur for the
whole weekend, etcetera, etcetera.
All right, But I just want you to come in and just eventually
get, you know, comfortable and meet some people.
Well, who's standing there? The planets lined up and Mr.
Mocha yourself, you standing right there and you just you
just kind of knew. We we kind of made eye contact
and you knew you knew that. OK.
I saw the look. I saw the looking eyes.
Like I saw the. Look exactly as that I was
saying help. I was saying without coming out
saying it, I was saying help me right now, brother.
You know what I mean. I need, I need some help.
I need some reassurance from another quality, you know,
quality gentleman. And you were able to come right
in there and introduce yourself and, and I knew when she looked,
if she looked at you, she was going to like what she saw.
I knew, I knew she was going to like what she saw.
And we were able to, after you had a conversation with her and
we got registered and everything and we were able to go upstairs.
And yes, she did drink down a half a bottle of whatever it was
she bought from down Kentucky. I want to sell some Wild Turkey
or whiskey or some shit. But she was able to calm down
and, and, and we were able to have, you know, some time alone.
I told, I asked him, I said, can you just like step out for a
little while and we can talk, you know, just the two of us.
And he, he did so and we were able to, you know, have a little
fun. And then I, I actually bought
up. I was like, hey, did you see
anybody downstairs that you like?
And she says your name because I had said, I had said, you know,
yeah, his name is, you know, and I said to myself right now.
And I said, OK, I'm going to, I'm going to, he's going to be
the first one to get the taste there.
And you did and you did. And she had, and from there she
had a, she loosened up. She met about four to five other
first time couples. And that made the experience so
much more worthwhile for her because they were able to talk,
you know, talk about their, their experiences, you know,
before they came, you know what I'm saying, to something like
this. So it ended up being a good
weekend for them, a very, very good weekend.
And now she is. They went to Splash in June and
had a great time. And I think they've already
signed up for the New Year's Eve.
So they'll be back. They'll be back in Atlanta.
They'll be back in Atlanta in March.
I mean, it was, it was definitely I, I was impressed
because everybody knows like I'm very weird about like when
people be like, hey, I look when, when, when the fellows be
like, hey, you know, Mr. Moku going to come up.
Like I tell guys all the time, Hey, hey, don't, don't speak for
my Dick. Don't do that.
Yeah, there's there's. Two or three guys who I trust
you know, to, to, to do that and you and I had had that
conversation. And I think for me.
What got me was the way we seamlessly interacted off of
each other because we saw where she was.
And. Then, you know, when I came up,
even coming into the room, because that's another thing.
There's there's there's levels to the interaction because every
time you add a new person to something, that's adding another
chemical into, you know, the the beaker.
Yeah. So I walked in and the comfort
because there's a thing that a lot of people don't know.
A lot of people don't realize that there are a lot of bulls,
single males out there who are super possessive right away
because it's like they're afraid someone's going to steal their
favorite toy. Yeah, you know, I walked to the
room. It was a smooth handoff.
It was a conversation, and the interaction kept her comfortable
the entire time. It was a really, really fun
experience and for her being able to experience that on that
level, you know, was awesome. You know, it was good.
It, it was a great time for me. So, you know, I, I always, you
know, I have to give you a hats off, you know, for the way you
got her comfortable, you got her relaxed.
And honestly, I was surprised after hearing the first part of
story. I'm surprised that you're able
to, you know, even bring someone else to the room, let alone get
her to the point where she was willing to interact with other
people. But I mean, goodness, I was a
beautiful woman. But yeah, but here, here again.
But here again, though, this is this, this is what I mean
though. Well, when I say you have that,
you have that aura about you, you have that charisma about
you, you know what I mean? Like I said, you and this is
what other guys should strive to, to, to, you know, to be
like, you know what I mean? You, you, you immediately knew
how to come into the room. You immediately knew how to,
like you said, not be aggressive in any type of way, but you saw
how you know. You saw downstairs how she was.
You didn't know what she was going to be like when you walked
into the room. You had no clue.
You had no clue, but you were able to.
And Zach and Zach, you were able to pick up on my vibe because I
had stepped back in the chair and I was saying myself,
brother, Merry Christmas, you know what I mean?
This is your, this is your world.
This is your world right now. And I knew, like I said exactly.
But I, and I knew that she, I knew that she liked the
physical, you know what I mean? I knew she liked the physical.
And I told her, I said, I, I said, you're going to last.
You're going to like the whole package.
And she enjoyed. So I'm, I'm giving you full
credit for opening up Pandora's box.
And, and, and she is, she is, he said that she is taking charge
now. You know, she, she's arranged,
she is arranging things. OK.
So I'm, I'm like, great. I mean, that's, that's, that's
what I mean by by enhancing your marriage, you know, that's what
I mean. And he said it has benefited him
because not only, you know, can he be in the cuckold role, but
he can also go back and be in the husband role.
And their, their sex life is, is hot.
It's hot. So I mean, that's, that's that's
what I mean by by batting 1000 in my book, that's batting 1000.
And I mean. That's that's like that's that
psychological as stamp aspect. Yeah.
That that is always has always been so intriguing to me.
Where you, you meet this new person and now you, you, you,
you're trying to make them comfortable, make them feel safe
and open them up to the things that they want to be open to.
You know that I mean, that that takes work, especially when you
run into a couple like that, who's new and they're afraid,
you know, And that to me was awesome.
And even, you know, the, when I stepped out of the room that the
brief conversation I had with him, the husband after I left,
he was out in the hallway and the brief conversation I had
with him, he enjoyed. He was nervous because he was
pushing his boundaries, but he also felt like you handled it in
a way that he felt comfortable with that, you know, And I mean,
that's pretty impressive because I know me personally, it took a
long time before I was comfortable, you know, with the,
I was comfortable when I met a couple who was that shy on that
level. It took only time for me to be
comfortable dealing with couples who were that shy, you know, and
that awkward, you know, so. Well, like I said, like I said,
I knew outside that I had to come out of bull mode, you know
what I mean? I couldn't be.
I couldn't be, I couldn't be dominant in any type of way.
I couldn't, you know, I had to be as as polite and patient and,
and, and caring as possible. You know what I mean?
I think that. Is.
I think that is part of the bull role though.
Yeah, or it is definitely, it is part of the bull role.
It is, it definitely is part of the bull role.
But like I said, you know, I, he trusted, he trusted me from the
get go, you know what I'm saying?
He trusted me from the get go. So for me, it goes back to like,
like when I'm at work. And I think I told you that when
I'm at work, I jot things down on paper.
You know what I'm thinking about like, like what makes, what
makes you know a quality, a quality Boo?
What makes quality Boo? And I even write down things
like, you know, the art of seduction.
You know how to woo a hot watch. You know what I'm saying?
And, and, and I mean like here again, one of the first things
that I write down is, and I was telling you a few minutes ago,
always show the utmost respect to the husband.
Always show the utmost respect to the husband and then respect
the sanctity of the couple's relationship.
You know what I mean? Respect the sanctity of their
relationship. Find out, find out just how,
just how, you know, happy they are.
Find out how you know how long you know you've been not only in
the life, but how long you've been married.
You know what I'm saying? I mean, I, I, I, I did, you
know, I asked all their kids. I asked what you know, if you
don't mind, you know what you do.
You know what I'm saying? Because I let them know what I
do. I tell them my background.
I have no problem with that. They have no problem.
And to me, that opens up that level of trust for me.
That's how it works. You know, it works for me.
And here again, like I said, I'm I'm able to add to that already,
like loving relationship, you know what I'm saying?
It's both. It's both mentally and
physically rewarded. And yeah, Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Find out what the couples design
and then like, fit into it. You know what I'm saying?
You got couples there that that, that here again, their whole
marriage has been like the hot wife couple cuckle dynamic, you
know what I'm saying? I mean just the guy's like a
true cuckle and sometimes, you know, you well, you know, you
can get splash mocha and stuff and and she can you know, she's
thirsty and she's having a great time.
But you look at the husband and stuff and he's like, well, you
know, he can't exactly be, you know, you know, the couple that
he wants to be. You know what I'm saying?
And and and and, you know, you look and and that's a part of
that, a part of that, you know, initial meet and greet in
talking, you know, talking to him.
Like I said, sex, sex is going to come.
I know sexy is going to come, all right?
If you talk to me for more than about 5 or 10 minutes, I already
know, OK, we go, we go fuck. We're going to fuck, OK?
But I want the whole experience for the both of you, for the
both of you. I want both of you all to be
like, OK, this dude right here, we going to take him again later
on or take him tomorrow or have breakfast with him or something,
you know, because he bought something special to the table.
So I mean, that's how I am. That's what I am.
So what do you like? You brought up one thing, you
know, and this is something I think that a lot of guys, this
is a place where a lot of guys stumble.
And I've watched it happen where they have the mentality they've
come up to a woman, oh, this guy's a cook.
So I'm going to automatically jump into this role and I'm
going to be demanding or rude to the cook like.
Total, total disrespect, total disrespect, OK, total disrespect
on my to me, you know, there's no way in the world that I'm
just going to jump right into, you know, so even calling him
cook, you know what I mean? That that comes, that comes a
little bit later, All right, When you said, when you start
saying certain things and there you, you come out, you know, you
know, with, with the Sir and everything.
Then then I know, OK, you, you I'll start saying cook, you
know, a cuckold or whatever, you know, whatever your little, you
know, word is that like they'll get you there 'cause there are.
A lot of stags who A lot of stags hate getting confused for
a cook. Like, absolutely.
Stags will be pissed. Absolutely, absolutely,
absolutely. You know, oh, find out, I mean
find out from here again, find out their dynamic, you know,
first and foremost, you know, before you, even before you even
start an intense conversation, you know, I know you do that,
you know what I'm saying? And here again that go that goes
along with with you committing, you know, be be committed to
your growth as a bull. You know what I'm saying?
Know who you are as a bull. All right, to me, there's three
types of bulls, even though there there are more, but to me
there's three types. You got you got your dominant
bull, you got your alpha bull, then you got your BBC bull, OK.
And to me that dominant, that dominant bull, that's that bull
who who he typically takes the lead in the relationship and the
hot wife becomes submissive to his needs.
OK. Your alpha bull is more he forms
that that like powerful sexual connection with the hot wife.
And you know, often, like times, you know, the husband or the
cook is, is he's he can be or he cannot be involved.
You know what I'm saying, depending on the dynamic, on the
dynamics. And then you got your BBC boot.
This is the the, the the guy who is just, you know, you got the
big Dick. You know what I'm saying?
He seeked out because he's got the big Dick and and the
pleasure and and you know, the the husband might, might assume
the role of a cook. You know me and and and he
enjoys that, you know, giving himself to, you know, to this
dude for that form of damn humiliation.
Why you, you know, why you with the watch?
You know what I'm saying? The verbal humiliation.
So for me there's those are three types.
For me, those are three types. That's pretty good.
I mean, that's I love seeing it, seeing different things,
different ways. So that is that is good, that is
very good. So we've talked about this
before, you know, being a successful bull or single male
in the lifestyle from your standpoint, when couples say
they are trying to find a good bull, can you give me an idea of
if you're talking to somebody who's new, like how many things
are they trying to, how many things are they, they trying to
check off the list? I mean, how many things they
have to how many things they how many things should they do to
show that they are a quality bull?
OK, damn, that's funny. That's that's funny that you
said that because I also have something like a bull checklist
that I go by. And here again, I need to
understand cocolding. I need to understand cocolding
because here again, like you said, not everybody, not every
stag likes the Coco dynamic, you know what I mean?
But here again, though, I need to understand exactly what
cocolding is. I need to ask questions, OK, I
need to ask questions, all types of questions.
I need to be able to get along with that husband.
I mean, we need to have a rapport.
I need to establish a rapport with him.
I need to establish trust with him before anything else, you
know, that goes on with his wife.
I'm not seeking romance from them.
I'm not seeking romance. Now, if we become closer and
they approach me and ask about what, you know, what you think
about being a boyfriend type, then we will go from there.
All right. And I am a boyfriend to one
couple in Jacksonville, NC. And they actually, yeah, they
actually were Splash Atlanta also.
But I had told him that I was like, I got the other new
couples, so I'll probably spend more time with them.
But they had a great time. But she, she kept me constantly
informed, you know, because I'm considered her, her daddy.
And I consider her my baby girl. All right.
So she kept me informed that like, when she was going to
play, she knows that that definition of what a quality
bull is. So she pretty much would like,
come to me or, or like, take me a picture of somebody And was
like, you know, Daddy, I know you agree with this, you know,
or Daddy, do you agree with this?
And I'll be like, yeah, yeah. Or nay, you know, but getting
back though, I got off, I got off track there.
But getting back though to that, we're getting back though to
that, but getting back to that ideal to that I'd what I what I
consider the qualities of an ideal bull.
Of course, you're you're the body game, the charisma, you
know, the cleanliness of you be STD free be able to be able.
I I take, I take HIV and STD tests every month, every 30 days
like clockwork. My regular doctor, he has hooked
me up for the last since I've been home.
And that's 2018. OK, So I have when I come to
splash Mocha Mocha, I actually have all of my tests from the
last at least six months lined up on the table.
When you see when you see. And I just think that that is
just showing the utmost respect to that couple because here
again, that guy is for either a few minutes or for two hours or
if we, you know, become really, really friendly.
He is trusting me with his with his queen.
And I want him to be able to if it becomes like one of those
situations. Like I have a couple of couples
where the the the hot wife actually works down here in
North Carolina close to me. And when she comes down from
they live in Virginia, when she comes down, he immediately calls
me. And it's like, you know, Sir,
can you either stay with her or can she stay with you for those
3-4 days that she's here? You know, and when a husband
does that, that's you can just check off all your check.
Here's right there to me, because he is complete.
He has completely trusted, he trusts you completely.
We know with his wife. And that's, that's to me, that's
what I strive for. I strive for.
It starts off like I said, with that respect and that building
that before and then that trust. And then like I said, sex.
I ain't worried about sex, you know, I mean, I know that's
going to be not only the physical, but I'm going to give
her the emotional and everything.
And then it develops more. If it develops more than we go
from there. Well, you know, some, I mean
that that's awesome. I mean, I like, you know,
hearing what the equality bullet is from the standpoint of
multiple guys to me is important because everything is about
everything to me is about perspective.
Everything is about perspective. I've seen you in action.
I've seen the way you move. I see the way you roll.
So I, I, I feel like you're giving out good information
based upon experience. And one of the things I do like
about, you know, Brian is he gives out information based upon
his experiences like I do. I can't speak on anyone else's
experience, but we have, I've got quite a few.
One of the things that you know, I want to do in the future with,
you know, the Sigma male Brian M is kind of break things down.
You know, he's, you know, you had a long journey.
And as we get every single step we take, we learn something new.
We make slight adjustments here, slight adjustments there.
And one of the things that I'm always dealing with are couples
who are looking for a quality bull.
I can't, we can't find one or bulls who say, you know, I can
never find, you know, couples who I enjoy or who I'm on the
same page with. And that's just because I feel
like there is the lack of experience for understanding is
a huge gap. So, yeah, yeah, what I would
like to do, because you and I have talked a lot off camera or
off of mic and you have different lists and different
things that you know what there's questions I've asked
where you've, you know, got your list and, and things broken
down, you know, so that they can offer basic understanding, you
know, besides what. Do you expect?
From a career military man, he he's got a strategy that he's
ready to implement right now. I live to do I live by the two
words discipline instructor I have all my life.
Then that came from my from my beautiful parents who know who
actually know and let me say this also I, I don't when I tell
people I live this 24/7. My family has known that I have
been in this life since I got in all right.
That means my beautiful parents who are still alive, who are 89
and 82 years old, my sister, my aunts, my daughter, my two
daughters. They know, you know, So I don't.
I don't shoot code anything. Yeah.
I mean, you can you, you can be wide open about what it is and
what you do. And that's some that's
information because we the, the, the lifestyle itself, I always
say the lifestyle, you know, or like, I like how you say in our
case, the life, it's an ecosystem, OK, Within that
ecosystem, there's so many different branches of there's so
many different genres and types of ethical non monogamy that
fits into the lifestyle. And I think that there's an
overall mentality which is going to be, you know, accepting and
learning and trying to create equal pleasures, you know, but
there's still the lack of understanding.
So we constantly hear the same thing where.
Oh, I, me and this guy didn't work or me and this couple
didn't work. And when you start listening to
the story, it's like one of them did something that was cringy.
Like you're like, Oh, you said that.
Oh, you did that. Oh, I can see why it didn't work
out. So I would love to invite you,
the Sigma male, to kind of break things down piece by piece and
share your perspective of the lifestyle, things that make
things that make single males stronger and things that make
couples more desirable and things that will help couple
couples and single guys maintain relationships longer.
I think I, I think I don't mean a good job, but I think now, I
think now in today's world having going to several splashes
and just sitting back like I do and just observing.
I think a lot of couples, matter of fact, I know I won't say, I
think I know a lot of couples are seeking that one here again,
quality distinguished bull to be that kind of boyfriend type.
You know what I mean? Got to be that boyfriend type,
but at the same time they want him when she's with him.
He needs like I said, he needs to know who he is and be able to
take her. And although he knows that.
OK, yeah, you we boy, you know you my baby girl, but I want.
To know who he is, would you explain that?
Here again, it goes back to that type of bull that you are.
You know what I mean? It goes back to that type of
bull that you are. Know that you are you, you are
controlling the, the situation with your baby girl.
You know you are dead. You know you're dead.
But at the same time though, I want my baby girl to experience
everything there is to experience in this life.
I, I want her to be able to go and seek other quality bulls.
Come back and tell me, daddy, what do you think you know of,
of this gentleman right here? And I'd be like, OK, baby girl,
do your thing. You know what I mean?
I didn't tell you, but my baby girl is also, she's extremely
submissive to a, to a bull, to a black bull.
But when she she turns on, she when she sees a beautiful a
beautiful woman, Oh my God, mocha, she turns into the most
dominant bisexual. Oh my goodness.
And it nothing turns me on than to see her put on a strap on and
do her thing with another woman. And she did.
Yes, Sir. She dude, if she didn't have me
completely turned on in Atlanta, I with a couple of ladies and I
and, and they, they are requesting her to bring the
strap on back. I went to Atlanta in March.
OK, so I'm, I'm really, I'm, I'm kind of living a dream, you
know, with this particular couple.
And he is just as cool. He's, he's not a cook or
anything like that, but he is just, I call it the ultimate
stag. I mean, he won't.
He loves to watch his lady be pleased and you know, doesn't
like he's not one of those husbands that's like a damn
director of a porn movie that wants to see this, wants to see
that, et cetera, et cetera. Egypt.
I can't perform like that. I'm going to tell you right now,
I can't perform. I had one encounter like that in
Wake Forest, NC and literally I got up and put my clothes on and
left and I could tell, you know how you can tell when the wife
was like, she's not saying it, but the wife was looking at you
like, I'm so sorry that she literally, she called me a
couple days later and was like, I'm so sorry that he was that
way and it turned you off like that.
You know, so I, I mean, he is not like this.
And he just sits back, kicks his feet up and me and I can sit
there and have popcorn and Coke together and watch her do one
thing. You know, it's a beautiful
thing. But I think, like I said, I know
a lot of couples are seeking what we have.
You know, they really are. They're seeking that.
They want that one guy that they can say, OK, yeah, he's ours,
you know, although, although knowing that that I might have
another couple or two, you know what I mean?
But they accept that it's cool. It's cool.
They know when I am with them. I'm with them, you know, and
it's to the point where I can go on vacation with them.
I can come down to the house when he's not there.
And, you know, if I ain't doing nothing during the day, hey, she
takes the day off, go down there and get a quickie, spend some
hours with her, you know, before the kids come home from school.
I mean, it's, it's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful thing. And and she even said that she
has friends that wish that they had this, wish they had that
that dynamic. Yeah.
No, I mean, that's a well, you know, that listen, that's what
they dream of. So listen, Brian, we're going to
wrap up and we're going to start definitely scheduling some time
for you to get on and, you know, start putting together and
sharing some of that knowledge, you know, because yeah, that is
what they, what they're, what a lot of people are missing.
I would love to hear again being being my age now and my father
told me that, you know, these younger, younger guys need to
know what you know, you know what I mean?
Not that you don't still like to play.
And I do believe me, I love to play.
But I really do enjoy now talking to not only couples, but
like I said, the younger brothers who are striving to be
what we are now, you know, So, you know, I mean, you know, it's
kind of like a certain rapper said, you know, the game is to
be the game is to be told not to be sold, you know what I mean?
So I'm trying, I'm trying. I'm loving that now.
I've never talked as much in my life as I am, you know, as I
have been in the last couple years.
Well, I mean, they need it. I mean, there's nothing that you
have that is needed. Thank you so much.
I want thank you. I I appreciate you coming on and
joining us and I think that you'd be a great resource just
because you've been in a lifestyle for so many years and
you're living proof of what you can bring to the lifestyle and
what the lifestyle can bring to you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Same to you, my brother. Same to you same to you all
right, I'm so glad that the planets lined up and we we click
the way we click and I I, I I thoroughly enjoy calling you my
brother. Really, if you you, you
exemplify what that quality bull is all right in every in every
in every way that. Is much appreciated.
So. Until next time, I am.
Yes, Sir. You're on with the Sigma male
Brian and you will see. You will hear from Brian a lot
more. And until next time, goodbye
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