Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of O Faces.
I'm your host Mr. Mocha and this is my beautiful Co Hostess.
I haven't really been much of A host.
My wife, you going to introduce yourself, wife?
Oh, misses mocha. I'm misses Mocha.
Whenever I introduce whenever I say misses mocha then I get
yelled at but now when I don't say it she just skips right over
all right before I get started. Is any is anybody wearing a
belt? Sorry, I may need to borrow to
spank my wife during this podcast.
Sorry. Bring it.
On not the one that threatened with a span joining us today.
So we we usually do 2 podcasts at Mocha.
Either a will do a old faces podcast with the wife and I or
I'll do or she'll do a dirty girl's corner which is her in a
female panel, or I will do a man of old faces panel which is
myself in the male panel. But you know the wife likes to
be surrounded by penis, so either way she wants to be here.
It feels like a gangbang kind of, but like without having to
do hand motion. They're.
All my hands all have to be like, you know, they're a
practice round. So today what we're going to do
before we get going, we've got a bunch of people who we know in
here. Thank you everybody for coming.
You know, we got some of our friends in the back.
I don't know if we could use your names.
No C&B, we'll just call them C&B starting from the back.
And then of course, I'm going to say Blushing Vixen, because
Blushing Vixen is always present her and Reserved Stag, whether
it's when we do a Twitter Spaces, they're always present,
they're always there. And then of course, everybody
else, all the other friends, we got a bunch of people we've
never met and we've got people who we've met before on the
panel. Yes, my love, you're.
Going to fall backwards. I can remember we got a
concussion. I mean, that's not as bad as
what you do to me at home. She's been abusive.
No. You.
Choked me the other day. You liked it?
So yeah, yeah. She's, she's more like grabbing
my hand, like, yeah, stop. I'm not ready for that.
Yeah, but I have a panel of gentlemen next to me within the
audience. One of the things that I like to
focus on is things that are going to help us be better in
the lifestyle. And one of the bigger challenges
that we often have in the lifestyle is finding our place,
finding our niche and being comfortable with our niche and
our place. From a male standpoint, whether
you are a husband and if you are a single guy within the husband
dynamic, if you're a stag, if you're a bull, if you're a cook,
single guy, if you are just playing the role of single guy
AKA manicorn, you play. Or if you're a bull, where
you're actually interacting with cuckold couples, getting from
one place to another, identifying what you like, what
you enjoy, accepting the fact that we deal with a lot of
social constructs that we're all born into, that we deal with,
and getting past those things within the lifestyle.
As guys, we're only good if we know who we are and what we want
and what we're offering. When we are confused and we are
having those internal battles with ourselves, we show up and
we present poorly. So from the male standpoint and
the female standpoint, those are things that we're going to kind
to kind of address. I'm going to start with pick on
1st Brian Morgan, the Sigma male.
I will pick on him first. I'm his hype man today.
Brian Morgan AKA the Sigma male stepping into the the space of
lifestyle. How do you present and how do
you how, how, how, how hard was it for you to identify what you
wanted to do so that you offer females or couples in the
lifestyle a good experience? First of all, I had to look
within myself like what kind of bull am I going to be?
What characteristics do I exemplify on a daily basis?
All right, ladies, this is for the ladies.
You like looks, don't you? When you see good looking guy,
you like looks. So I try my damnedest to keep
myself looking. I not like I am 58 years old and
that's my age. So body game face.
I shave his head every day. When you look at me, I want you
to see like OK, that's that's I like that.
I like that. Then when I approach a couple
and I'm lucky to have my baby girl and her husband out there
in the audience when we started talking, the conversations
between he and I because I do not think about talking to her
exclusively until I established that rapport, that trust, that
level of respect to that husband.
I don't care if it's a female ledge or FLR relationship.
I, she's just going to have to know, wait, I have to talk to
him. I'm going to talk to him, OK?
Because as we evolve, if this does become physical and that's
fine, but I'm looking at more of getting in between here also.
So when I deal with a couple, especially that husband, he
needs to know that he needs to understand I'm going to do three
things. I'm going to do three things
when I'm with the couple and when I'm with her.
A, I'm going to respect you. B, I'm going to protect you.
And then three, the love physically.
OK, so that's how I go into meeting someone and then
establishing, like I said, that communication and being honest.
Be honest with me because I'm going to be honest with you, you
know? And then we go, we go with it.
Now for me, when I first came into the lifestyle, like I was
just trying to stick my Dick in, that was it, you know, like I,
I'm not When I first got into lifestyle, it was my friend
introduced me. His wife was attractive.
He asked if I want to play with her and I'm like, are you
fucking with me? And I did it.
And then for a long time for me was really just the excitement
of the sex. It took years for me to start
dealing with emotional connections and identifying that
it was as a couple. It was more than just fucking
somebody's wife, I'm not going to lie.
And I think there was a point in my life where I probably created
more damage accidentally in relationships then, you know,
looking back on it, because I've always been a very open person.
If you say I can have sex with your wife, I'm going to have sex
with her. If you say that I can have a
boyfriend type relationship, I'm going to do it.
You know, and I did those things and it was always like, man,
this is getting weird. And that's because I didn't
understand that there were I didn't understand that there
were two people there. Oftentimes when I talk on a
podcast, I only speak from personal experience and for now
at 46 years old. You're 40.
Six, watch your mouth. You know the the, the good that
I can speak of. There is there are very few
experienced guys in the lifestyle who can't say that
they had a lot of fuck ups early.
Like moments where I've been embarrassed, moments where I'm
like, oh, like, oh, so sorry. We had a lot of those early on.
Like I'll have younger guys like, oh man, you really got it
figured out, bro. There's a whole lot of dumpster
fires before, before I had it figured out in every way, shape
or form emotionally, man, there's just so many things.
So now understanding that you're dealing with two people and I
have to to learn to read those two people and I have to
determine if what those two people have to offer.
It was what I'm willing to give. And even if I find the wife
extremely attractive, I'm OK with turning down things if I
know that I'm going and create damage.
I also have a cheat. Now that I'm older and I'm
married, my wife is it's fun when I'm talking about couples
I'm interacting with now for the first time, I also have a female
perspective. You know, there's times that
she'll GoDaddy this chick is thinking this and and here I am
a guy with all this experience of having sex with women.
I'm like woman, I know what I'm talking about.
Then I'm like, honey, I'll be damned, you were right after
about 13 or 1400 times of damn, you were right.
Now I'm kind of like, OK, I'll and, and so that's also taking
my experience to a different level within the lifestyle.
And now when I interact with a couple now it's kind of the what
are we, what am I looking for? Is this a short term just
nothing but fun? Is this a couple who I enjoy
their I, I enjoy their, their, their conversation.
I enjoy them as people. We're going to become friends.
And now this is not only friends, but it's friends with a
potential long term sexual relationship.
And now that I have that, how close am I to the husband?
How much time do I spend? And when I say how close I am,
this is where people get confused at that husband being
close to him might mean that him and I talk once every month.
That wouldn't mean that that that for him could be us being
super close. It may be.
It may mean that when we're in the bedroom, this husband is a
cook to the 9th degree, but outside the bedroom, we're
talking sports, we're talking, you know, hunting fit, we're
talking work, we're talking nothing that has to do with
that. It's all of those things that,
you know, for me, I've learned that if I want to have a great
experience, I have to learn. But I had the first be
comfortable with me, you know, because you go back, we grew up,
Yeah. We grew up like the first time
you told somebody like, yeah, I'm in a lifestyle.
They're like, hey, you fuck up, you watch.
And now. And now when people find out
that my wife, look, I let other guys talk.
My wife, you know, they were like, what?
You let dudes? Fuck your wife, what the fuck is
wrong with you? You know now I really don't give
any fuck so it's easy for me to laugh it off and not care.
But many years ago, I remember the first time hearing someone
close to me talking about someone else we found that was
in lifestyle. I was like, Oh my God, what if
somebody finds out that I'm into that?
I mean, I don't care anymore. I mean, obviously I got a plat,
yeah, a public platform, so everybody knows.
But before I had to accept that part of myself.
So that's how I that's just me. So now I'm going to move on to a
another gentleman. Now I'm going to move on.
I'm going to pick on my boy Rob, AKA Gym rat.
You know I was going to pick on, you know I was.
Going to pick on you. So no, no, I'm playing look, you
got you got 5 minutes. But what I'm picking on him
because of the way he chooses what he wants and identifies
what he wants in the couple. How do you determine what you
like in the couple and how do you go from picking the couple
and maintaining it? Because I've seen couples who he
interacts with and how much they love him.
How do you choose who you want to play with?
Well, I'm going to be honest with you due to the fact that
the uncle couples small community within the lifestyle,
the word of mouth is pretty much how long you know, you know, you
introduce people and you know, they share they still works
with, you know, each other. So it really takes a lot of, you
know what I mean, because of the experience, the experience of,
you know, they always say, oh, it's about the woman, it's about
the woman, but is it really about a woman when sometimes a
husband has so many demands, he got so many things that he wants
you to do and how he wants you to do it.
Then I switch it up man, and focus on my attention on the
one. I focus on everything that I
know she probably is not getting from a marriage relationship.
Let's be honest, after someone is married for like 10 to 15
years, the husband, he's not like taking the shoes off,
massaging the feet, kissing the toes, baby, baby, stuff like
that, that they, they've been through that shit out of the
window. That's when I come along.
Now I start that we finalize the relationship.
Now I'm starting to stimulate them without having to
physically be involved, like sexually engaged to do things
that everybody like, you know, you have kids, a lot of shit
goes to the wayside, but the fact that I'm being attentive to
with things like favorite color, you smell good.
What type of perfume is that? Have you ever tried this
perfume? You think that go along with
your you know, just now they're starting them like, damn, you're
having a do you ever thought about getting cut that way?
I look good with a little bit of then you dress them up.
She then she realized, God damn this he's paying attention and a
lot of men, like I say, they've been married 12 for so long.
They they're in the routine. I mean, it's just, it's just
like so. I'm gonna pause you.
I'm gonna pause you here for one second because you just What he
just said is church. What have I told you about why I
always say I can't be the best? I'm not going to be the number
one Dick, you fuck. What do I say I.
Don't. Know damn my mood.
We don't. Have this conversation 1000
times, I told her before. You know all of my moods.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I can't surprise you anymore.
You can anticipate everything I do.
A new guy coming in with that type of energy and attitude, she
don't know what she's going to get.
Literally. I can, I was saying earlier, we
can be having sex and I can touch her with my pinky and
she'll move into the position that I wanted her in.
She may enjoy the sex with me, but it's no longer a surprise.
And if you've been married in here for more than five years
and you say that what he just said is a lie, you fucking liar,
because that is true. All the little things that you
do in the beginning, once you start, you have all these things
happen together. The bills, the kids, the stress,
blah, blah, blah. A lot of those things falls off
to the wayside. And so when the guy comes in and
all of a sudden he's providing those things, he.
Finalized it he let us know how to be dated again a lot of women
forgot how to be dated because they've been married for so long
married and dated you. So a lot of times when if I do
find a situation where the husband is allowed you know that
they dating it wakes up she sniffs brought attention to
smokers on hugs she'll not work on anything else.
I mean, when we go out, everything is focused on her,
the ticket. I mean, we, she gets in the car.
I mean it, it's more, it's more, I mean, she take a shower with
the same guy. She, I mean, she, she has seen
the good, she's seen the bad. We just, we, we just have pains.
I want to make sure during that time that we're together, that
we fulfill every more every minute we are talking about, we
lose, we lose each other, each other in that time.
So that time I focus on, I don't let, I don't do procrastination.
I stay away from those people. I'm not going to let you waste
my time because I know how valuable it is.
Explain that. Explain that.
Well, you got a lot of guys that the reason they're losing is so
much because a lot of they got to say that happens.
The reason I say that because they and so they want everybody
else to kind of lead and they do it subconsciously because they
want to please the bumps. They they so it's so government
on making sure that she's pleased and making sure that
that that you know, you're doing the right thing that some guys
lose focus on like the command, the leadership to say, OK, it's
what we're doing. That's it.
I, we, I'm not asking you like this is what I got to tell that
we're going here, going to do this.
And she, like a lot of women like to but but instinct land
like women can smell me. They they can stink if they know
they they did. You know what I mean?
I don't have to put on the show, the song and the dance.
So you reopen, you reopen, and they have been put in the vault
for a while. But the only way you can really
start commanding the. Attention got to talk to them.
I talk to him because and I also tell a woman to listen.
I know how hard it is because he's so used to telling kids
what to do, husband what to do. You might have a job when you're
telling employees what to do, but when it comes to me, you got
to get the opportunity to you, You got to be.
If you can't leave, I mean you can't follow, then we got to
wear a good match because I don't want to get in a situation
where we we bump the hands. You're not in guys situations
like that where I have to come down in the bedroom.
I don't need you don't tell when the Jordan not to talk about I
know what I'm doing. OK, I understand that you
probably have a just give me a chance.
You'll be like give me a chance to fulfill you, but mentally
then we'll get to the the the sex part because I don't need
the rooms. Once you lay down, she's
dragging it like, hey, let's, let's.
Let's leave. We had a conversation.
Let's do all the things, OK, let's let's let's go over your
body. Let's see what your body like.
OK, This is all figuring out what you like that you don't
like, what stimulates you mentioned, but a lot of guys you
can't do that in 15 minutes. You have to invest time because
you got even going for numbers should never get that experience
because the only thing she do, she just want the next one.
Sure, but then if you got there, you got that ring man that's
fueling that energy. OK, baby, he he went his way,
OK, he he didn't come here, you know, lost focus and everything
since then. You didn't caught up and those
people, they walked right by me. So that's why I have to deal
with those because they so caught up in their own world.
It's so caught up in OK, it's flash.
How many guys I'm going to do to stand before.
So what I do is I I fly into the radar and I get those quality
companies to where when they go in the bedroom, they want to be
in there to have an experience. They just don't want to say
anything black. They want to make sure they say,
hey, I went down there. It was a guy named this
motherfucker. That's what I want.
I don't want, I don't want all that others.
So now, so I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to move on to the next
job. But he said a couple things that
we've talked about before. So we, we had this conversation
before that him and I had a conversation like you're not
knocking anybody who's into it, but I've gone into a room, you
start to play with somebody and she reaches for a vibrator right
away. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait,
wait. Give me a chance.
Let me, let me first. Like I don't mind you using your
vibrator. So just from listening on the
outside end, I don't care about vibrators, you know that I
didn't even use one until I met him 15 years ago.
But I I think too like, but it's also the the type of guy that
you're looking at because there are people that come to this
event that are just sport fuckers.
Like I'm not, I don't knock it. If we're at my house, we got
time. But if I'm here, I'm not
necessarily trying to knock out numbers.
But I only see Rob once a year. I only see Brian once a year.
I only see you once a year. Like, so I want to make time to
play with everybody. I'm also like a fuck, fuck first
talk later type of person. But you know, everybody has
their thing, like whatever you need.
But also like what you were saying too is that, you know,
like you kind of lose that spark.
We took like I took a little break and I realized that like
this, he gives me all the attention and more and he makes
sure that I always feel like 100 about myself or I won't come to
an event. He knows that like I'll stay
home. I if I don't feel like myself.
No, no, no. But wait, what I'm saying.
That long? Time ago, because that's true.
Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying?
Is so. True, I but what I'm saying is
here too, like although he gives me all that attention, it does
feel good to come here and get more attention because it's new
and it's exciting. Like and I I can't say I have
low self esteem at all, but it's just almost like we're re dating
because every time we come to one of these events and if I get
a certain type of attention, he gets like you said, a certain
type of attention that I don't always give him.
Because if I can live together, you know, like I see you all the
time. We work for together, like we're
always together. So like you said, it's a
routine. So when I come here, it is the
excitement of a different type of attention.
No matter what your attention what what type of attention I'm
getting, you know I'm wanting negative attention.
Yeah. And I think one of the things
that that has excited me about my wife throughout the years is
when I first met her, any sheet when I first met her, she'd
submit to any guy. Now, now over the years, going
back to what he said, and that's really a thing, there's
oftentimes where a strong female is not going to be submissive to
someone who's weaker than she is.
Like she don't want a guy who she like.
If she's looking for a dominant sexual partner at that moment,
we're not talking about husband, life partner, whatever.
We're talking about, she's walking to a place and she wants
a guy who is dominant. Dominant means that she can feel
safe to give him control. Dominant don't mean that he's,
you know, all of that loud, aggressive shit.
And dominant doesn't mean aggressive.
Yeah. Submission is trust.
I see this person. They're strong enough.
Just like I've always said, you don't want a man who you can
physically overpower, you also don't want a, if you're walking
into a situation where you want a guy who's sexually dominant,
that's his job to make you feel like or make you desire to give
him that submission. And it's, it's exciting when I
see my wife when we're talking because my, as you can see, she
says fucks aren't mine. You know, we'll talk about guys
that she's men and she's like, so this guy, this guy thought he
was a DOB and she'll laugh. We'll laugh about it all the
time or. It's usually a text message that
says Daddy I'm about to tell you the T when I get.
Home or on the other side of that, like I don't believe, like
I feel like if I said hey, be my wife wants to play with you, I'm
not going to tell him how to play with her.
Me. If she wanted me, she'd stay in
the bedroom with me. The whole point is her going
into the bedroom with him and getting that different
experience. Just like I was saying earlier,
I've had husbands try to tell me how to play with his wife.
It's like bro, you're fucking up for her.
I've said this 1000 times. If I go into a room with a
woman, it's not my job to get my Dick hard.
But at the same time, if I go into a room with a woman, it's
not her job to get aroused. It's my job to arouse her.
I've got to figure it out. I've got to do the research.
I got to explore. I've got to ask the questions.
I got to touch the spots. I've got to be paying attention.
You know, that's just how it's supposed to work.
Now before we we Ravel along, we are we going to go ahead and
gentleman Jack what? Are you doing?
Gentleman Jack, I am. Gentleman Jack, I didn't.
Have AT. Shirt and all that.
Just wow. So 50 year.
Old. Partner Bull live in Houston, do
a little BDSM and when I came to splash I was new to hot Wife Cup
play over about 6 splashes. Now it's kind of ventured into
race play, which is harder to stay out of race play than it is
to get into race play. And race play doesn't mean
shouting out the N word and epitaph.
It just means whatever you feel like exploring on a cultural
racial dynamic. So that's pretty much what I
like to do. So every splash I may play a
little bit less. But like he said, once you get
into the idea of the experience, you play less, but the
experiences are deeper. And we agree with that.
Yeah, Because if now sport fucking does have its place, we
would not be here if everybody was coming in to play with like
2-3 people. The playrooms are open, the
playrooms open. I don't let it get empty because
they do. But is you have to the
experienced people have to lead the non experienced people into
like this role. Don't let them stay in the
comfort zone because a lot of people will get clique is
they'll talk to who they know, they'll stick to who they know.
They won't take referrals or they only will take referrals
and they won't get out there and adventure.
But you got to. But yeah, it's don't be ashamed
of who you are. Every splash you're going to
grow. Every party you should grow
because you're not. Then you know you're wasting
your time. OK.
So. Question I'll.
I'll be Q&A, Q&A here. We.
Go. So from now until like from
'cause you went from single male to a couple, you're a couple,
yeah. Start up single male.
Can count, but talk about the differences between just being a
single male pursuing people and now where you where you are as a
couple or with a couple like what what were like the the like
goods and bads. I know we've had some bads.
You can say start with the good. OK, this should be on the safe
side. I'll leave.
I'll leave when? You start with the bad, but I'll
leave. Like yeah, but I start.
Talking about no, but I mean from when you were single and
now that you're in a couple. So for me personally, so when I
when I single as a single guy, I learned that's where I learned a
lot single playing with couples first as a sports fucker, which
let's get this straight, I still am happy to sport fuck.
Absolutely. OK.
We are at the top of the food chain, which means that we can
eat meat and vegetables. OK, Like we can do it all.
I've stressed to my wife over the years that her power as a
woman stepping out of the social construct is that she has the
power to do that. You can sport, fuck, you can.
You can play with someone who you're engaged with mentally,
intellectually, and you can play with someone who you're engaged
with emotionally. You have the ability to do them
all. I don't want to ever be in a
box. So that being said, when I was
single, everything for me was organic.
I explored those things organically.
I am very much of it feels right right now.
I want to do it. So as a single guy, I learned a
lot once I started speaking to couples, speaking to husbands.
That's kind of how I learned how I wanted to make my
relationship. I wanted to do you.
Feel like your interactions with the the way you interact with
like single females and couples change because you're a single,
because you're a couple now. Oh, God, yes, yes, yes.
Now we're in the beginning. Because now we're in the
beginning. We're different.
Don't talk about the. Beginning OK, I'm a little crazy
and lazy. Wife is not in the mood to be
thrown into the bus on this episode.
I don't care, No. So when we first got into the
lifestyle together, I definitely made a lot of changes.
But I made those changes because I told her in the very
beginning, we can't be partnered.
If you don't know, if you never experienced what I've
experienced as a single guy, I had access to access as a single
woman. A woman can always outnumber a
guy with sex, but there's a very big difference.
Oftentimes vanilla females have a whole lot of sex, but they're
having sex for confirmation. That's no power.
The power is when you're having sex because you want sex.
The power comes when, as a woman, you are playing because I
see it, therefore I want it, so therefore I conquer it and I
enjoy it. So she hadn't experienced that.
She had a lot of numbers, but she hadn't experienced it
through my eyes and through my lens where you can have sex and
you start to see how people interact with you.
And after a few years of us being together, she played with
a couple guys who she played with before we together and they
play with her. They're like, you are a
different person and she was a different person.
That to me was power. Like I sit back and I watch her
interact with guys now. And you know, we talked like 2
dudes. Like we really talk like 2
dudes. If you ever hear us talk off
about like her play dates or my play dates, you laugh your ass
off because we talk like 2 guys. But that was the whole point.
You can't be my spouse if you don't understand me.
So I took probably the first 70 years of our relationship to
kind of help her understand to get it.
And it was it was fun. It was exciting to me for to
build her and to let her slowly transition through different
phases. My first, my beginning of
actually knowing that, oh, I can fuck some nice wife for her, it
was wait, I can fuck a dude and you're not going to be jealous.
You know that was right. Quick, for me, I just want to
get out there and open there. A lot of guys like don't get me
wrong, like $2.00 support fucking, I get it.
And when I first came in the game, I played the game like 12
years like, but I get it. I was doing the same thing.
But what a part of it is eventually, man, you can't keep
that shit up. You got to be sport fucking for
10 years. Like it's not it's mentally you
because you when you first come to the last guy support
eventually, man, you don't have to figure out like I don't do
stand business and it gets I don't mind telling people I
don't do that. And then some people ask why you
don't do that because I'm the type that when I engage with the
wife sexually, women having a good time, I don't want someone
to be Asian to just come and interrupt that because what it
does, it becomes distraction to me.
So if I'm giving you 100% of my time and my attention.
To you. Right.
I didn't set up here, packed my bags, bought my ticket, came
back here, invested my time and to get to know people.
So when I get in this room, I don't want to be able to well,
she's into me and then she keeps doing this.
She keeps doing this now. Now all of a sudden, now you
become a toy in this room now. So I don't like to engage like
that. I want to be able to.
If I'm focused on her, I want my husband to be comfortable enough
so I have to focus on me. If he had any issues where he's
sitting in the corner, he's over there and no one is paying
attention to him. And this is what I learned in
the lifestyle. People that have been married
20/20/10 and 15 years, they can do something in that room that
you don't know and it's going to catch her attention.
Now all of a sudden she's worried about OK, why is Greg
pacing? Why has he even been in the
bathroom? For you still.
Like yeah, you still it's hard to revitalize it.
So that's why I stay away from them because a lot of my
experience with staying vixens, they they are and not all.
It's just that the trust level is kind of shaky sometimes
because she wants him to be involved and then she get any
inclination that he's not enjoying himself.
If you go wrong at home, I can see you.
Just you just at that point in time.
Yeah. You support fucking in this?
I had literally, I have literally stopped and asked the
husband, hey, do you want to do this?
No, I'm not joking. Like hey, hey, hey, fucking like
turn on the side, do this, do this.
So now like my SO now my Dick going limp because.
I've had this happen to me before and it was like the worst
experience I've ever had in all my years of of hot wifey.
Where I beautiful couple, beautiful couple.
She's absolutely drop dead gorgeous.
I'm thinking to myself, OK, this is going to be a hot encounter,
a very hot encounter. Like you said, you know, I knew
exactly how to bring them together.
But we we get started and it's good.
It's good people, it's good. But he all of a sudden turns
into vivid video director of the year.
OK, stop right there. Can I get a shot?
Can I get a shot right there And literally?
At first I was like, OK, well. OK, well, you know, get the
shot. Go.
I go back, go back. I'm noticing that things down
shifted a little bit down here, but I'm like, all right, I get
it back. I get it back.
All right, This is what I want
to see right here. Stop turn her doggy style.
Now you, you, you get there. Get the right angle.
I'm going to get up under as a dog.
Hold up man. When he said that everything
just everything dropped. Everything dropped.
I was like do do. You.
I'm not getting paid for this. What are you doing?
So what's funny is that we got we got that conversation in the.
Group where? The the lady was telling us that
one of her friends lost the bull.
He decided he couldn't be with them anymore because after about
I think it was like 3 years there together somewhere.
What period of time it was basically they became so
demanding and so directive that the fantasy was no longer
mutual. And he got so burnt out that he
even considered leaving a lifestyle.
And it was like, no, lead them. And to me, you got to have a lot
of conversations and not a lot of conversations like numerous
conversations. We have enough conversation to
where the husband and the wife, like you say you're treating two
different people. I treat them as left brain talk
to the wife with respect for the husband, respect for the
husband. Like you said, could be one week
conversation, two week conversation could be just touch
base in and just see if it's a lot.
But what happens is, and this is really what I've told single
guys is you have to mature enough to know when to say no,
no in conversation when that situation is not for you or is
going to go into something that's not for you.
And either it's going to be a one off because you want to do
it, or it's just you just got to let it decline at the
conversation because you've got to know yourself enough to know
that that's not your thing. And sometimes you get
inexperienced people, inexperienced males, they come
in that think I got to do whatever they want me to do or
else. You're here for. 3.
Days, it's about 1000 people here.
Somebody wants what you want. Have enough conversation and you
have to be efficient in that conversation sometimes and know
in 5 minutes within two conversations.
If you're going back and forth on Telegram within a few
conversations, this is going to work or it's not.
Because like you said, if the experience is not mutual or the
experience is not for you, don't even get on the plane.
And I'll tell you this for me, believe it or not, like when it
comes to events, I don't talk to people on Telegram or SDC or
anything prior to because. He he barely responds to my text
messages when he's gone for 18 hours in a day.
So if you're expecting a, no If you're expecting any type of
typing response. Back he's calling you and my
friends know I'm a little dyslexic too so you know but but
truth be told, I feel like this maybe it's because of my age.
There's something that's a lot more intimate like I'm going to
stick my penis inside of your wife so me text messing you and
her without listening to those inflections and listen to the
emotions and talking to you. I miss so much.
So I won't even engage with a couple if I start, if I text you
and we've established a mutual connection, physical, physical
attraction. And you don't want to talk on
the phone, especially seeing as how I'm not talking to 25 year
old couples, I'm talking to people my age.
So you're 4550 years old and you don't want to have a phone
conversation. You're not for me and about Mr.
Mocha though, too, is he likes to.
He likes to hear things he's not good at, like I like.
I'll sex the right person all day or I don't do it at all.
It's a, I'm very like five to seven business days.
I might respond, but for him, he likes to hear, hey, we're in a
public room. No one can see under the gasket.
There's a table blocking right here.
No one can see you. But.
Yeah, ask questions. Absolutely.
Do somebody have a question? But yeah, I think for him, he
likes to actually like, hear because he listens to like audio
books and stuff like that all day.
So he likes to like, hear your voice, what you like, want to
say dah, dah, dah, body language.
Yeah, like that, that type of when?
I talk to the husband. I'm looking at body language.
I'm going to say something 100. Percent.
Like maybe you have never heard before and if you kind of like,
OK, well, can you elaborate a little bit more or you give me
that look like you might need to do a little bit more research or
you and the wife go and talk a little bit more and then I'll be
more than happy to talk to you guys as a couple, as a couple.
OK. Then when the three of us get on
the same page, we can turn that page and go from there.
If I don't get that Brian is not it's nothing against you.
It's nothing against you, both of You Beautiful nothing, just
that love you. I but I can't come into this
situation. When I come into the situation,
all I am doing is is I'm blending in.
If you if you guys have done what you supposed to do and that
that's those my baby girl right there and her husband, her
husband, Phillip. And when I got with them, I just
blended right in. I've blended right in and it's
little beautiful. I, I did them.
I don't know, my mouth got dry right here, but yeah, I just I,
I blended right in and it's been a wonderful almost two years,
right, Almost two years. Been the one for two years.
But if you yeah, I have to see you, the texting thing, it's
fine to say hello. You know, my name is such and
such dot dot dot. Just you know, I'm reaching out
because you reached out to me, etcetera, etcetera.
But after we do that, I'm like, I would like to, I would like
to, yes, we need to meet. We need to meet I.
Think though, if you're like new coming to one of these events as
a couple and you've never done anything like this before, like.
My like my couple that's here now.
Right, but. But they have they.
Have you like, you know, they have you that can kind of tell
them what to do, But if I, I can say I'm pretty oblivious to
things most of the time because he and he can attest to those
things. There's been times I've missed
major cues because I don't, I absolutely pay 0 fucking
attention down to going through the airport.
Anything that doesn't involve involve work or the kids.
So I mean, at least you know, like Rob and you can say like
you, you guys know exactly what you want and what you're looking
for and you could pick that out. I'll be honest, most of the time
I, I know what I like, but I, I don't know, I can't necessarily
say like you guys, you, you know, your experience.
This is what I want. And I can't, there's never been
a time in lifestyle where I can just be like, Oh yeah, this is
what I want. And I'm going to do that.
Like, I wish, I wish that I could say that, say that, but I
don't because like ask him, he can, he used to be able to like
pick guys and be like, Oh yeah, you're going to do this, You're
going to do that. But I'm day-to-day.
So I'm saying that to say, what if you have those couples, you
just don't deal with them, You don't deal with them that.
That's. Cool.
But what if you had a couple and you could just say to like guide
them through? OK, I don't necessarily, I'm not
going to play with you personally, but can you give
that? Would you give them advice like
for you or you or whoever like? That I'm not I'm.
Not saying that I won't I'm. Trying to do everything in my
power to to, to to make this and positive type thing.
I hate to meet you in there. And I'm going to be like, damn,
I'm not, this is not going anywhere.
You know what I mean? I hate that I hate it, You know,
did I do everything in my power as that good quality pool to
make this, you know, a successful journey?
Because right now the experience is not successful, but the
journey can be revitalized. And that's revitalized with two
things, patience and time. And that's all I have in this
lifestyle, right? Based in time for I have evolved
tremendously. I go out tremendously.
I was first introduced while living in Germany.
I was 26 years old, beautiful lady, 48 years old Russian Lord
anniversary. Reminiscing, reminiscing.
Let me see your penis real quick.
Lady Long story short ended up going back to to a place.
Things get heated up in the car, we take it to the house, I'm in
the house, things are going great because I love older women
and all of a sudden somebody comes from around the corner.
I almost shit on myself. The husband came from around the
corner. I'm trying to put my drawers on
and can't find them. You know what I mean?
And, and, and I'm like, what's what, you know, what is this?
You know what, what's going baby, baby, it's OK, it's OK,
It's OK. But anyway, though, I mean, I
really couldn't run, you know what I'm saying?
The way the way I really couldn't run.
I couldn't run. So I had to stay there.
And they both calmed me down at the time.
Hey, this is I'm 26, OK, it's 30.
Two years ago. So we didn't have the
terminology. Hot wife, you know, BBC cook
Stag. I didn't, I didn't know.
But they were in the life and that was their dynamic, you
know, didn't let nobody know. But he watched.
But he liked what he saw and thought that maybe something
could evolve from this. And it ended up evolving and it
was a hell of a damn run. I She's actually been an escort
for two years. She was my handler.
That's. What they got, if anybody knows
about Europe, the European people are absolutely.
And there's a beautiful lady right there and, and, and, and
who looks like she might be from someplace else, France, France,
that's so uninhibited, so uninhibited, so sexual.
So, so sex and so freaking sexual, Right.
Am I right or wrong? Yeah, you do.
I'm right. So they do things a whole lot
differently. A whole lot differently.
And so that's how I was like introduced to this.
So it's like I'm doing apology because.
I want I know that he had a question.
Go ahead, Rachel. Oh, Philip from the.
Beginning. I'm not trying to throw her into
the bus, however she will interpret that text completely
different than someone else. I'll read the same text that
should be left, pick up the phone and make the phone talk
and you have a better understanding true of what
you're trying to communicate when.
You're talking with the phone. Also, emojis are essential, Yes.
Yeah, a devil faced. Yeah, you can say asshole on the
podcast. Yeah.
The green wristband Give your permission to say asshole out
loud you. Could say it on the podcast.
We don't believe anything. I've iPhone and I've said this
to guys and and this will offend some guys.
Don't say it. Say it as.
It as it as it as you. See it?
If you are an experienced guy in the lifestyle, single guy or guy
who plays with couples and you don't turn down way more
opportunities, not outside this environment, yeah, If you don't
turn down way more opportunities than you take, you're like a
throw shit at the wall and see what stick kind of person.
Yeah, Yeah, exactly. I am very much.
I want what I want and I don't accept anything else.
And he will not let you tell him what the fuck to do either.
Yeah, that's just, that's not who I am.
I mean, it's just not me. But here's the thing, I know
what experience I'm going to provide.
You know there's. Something to say it's not real
well-being. A couple trying to find a guy
that is going to show her the respect, the care, the what what
What can a husband look into and what type of it's.
It is like. Shooting.
Throwing. Arrows.
At dart board trying to find a guy that will.
Step up. And beat that guy because I
don't want her to experience because the in the lifestyle is
single. We got together, yeah.
She just whispered he's a hoax, yeah.
I want her to and to feel and have the experience of yeah, we
we, like you said, I can, I can do one thing and she knows
exactly what position I want her to be.
But yeah. And I until you said it like
that's what I've been not able to explain to her.
I'm like, I want somebody to be able to do and make you feel
like that. I don't.
It's not bad just to give you that experience that some of
these wives, they know the husband and some of them being
honest, they know someone. That's boy.
Oh, but they know 1000% if they. Really put their tooth on the
God which you said. She wants to.
Have fun. With it's two weeks of hell at
home. And a lot of guys, because of
that, get reluctant. A lot of guys because of what he
just said. We go into it real careful.
Real careful. Yeah.
So. Here you go.
So you've been married. What?
How long? We've been together 15 years.
OK, so I'm in the microwave because my partner, we actually
became friends in 2021. She brought me the splash for
the first time November 22. So picture this for a second.
You husband, love, love your wife.
Provide for your wife, Protect your wife right?
Sexually, when she goes to be herself, she's protecting you
because she doesn't want to do something that makes you feel
insecure, that takes away your sexual power, your masculinity.
So she'll shrink herself sexually until you show her that
you can handle the expansion of who she is.
Every woman, every woman, just like she protected them and she
loved them. So, So you grow up so, so here.
So you grow up. So you grow up in an environment
black that boys will be boys, women are women have brothers,
uncles, fathers. They grew up in an environment
that when a man shows his whole side and sex life, oh guys will
be guys. Guys got the same time, those
same elders, family members telling her to shrink herself
because she has to be elite. You have to show her that you
can handle when she expands herself.
She will not expand herself until you show her that you can
handle it, and she's only going to expand herself unless she
wants to piss you off to the version of that you can handle.
So that guy that is trying to entertain her, he's he's only
getting a little bit from her. So he's not going to stick
around. So that's why we I keep, I keep,
we keep looking, we go keep looking because that guy, that
quality guy that you're looking for, he's no, he's only going to
be a certain time for her. He's going to certain my
attention from her. Now imagine him getting a little
bit he's sitting over here and get a life.
He's not going to waste that time into it.
Now, you know, because he's that before he made she is not
comfortable enough to say, hey, you know what?
Because if she starts really giving this guy time, then he
can step around because now he got something to look.
Forward to it. But if you don't have nothing
but just the fact that because I'm not this man, but she got to
have more just she got to be ready.
I need her to be a date. But if she's here, you know,
but. Like you said, it's patients on
both sides. You're the claim.
You're the claim that my well. If I'm getting like he's not,
I'm not. I'm not saying 70% of the time a
text message. I'm talking about the effort
into. That's what.
I'm saying because we we all adults.
I'm not asking you to. The only time we talk is I'm
texting you. No, that is nothing.
You know what? I'm the.
First thing I want to ask him. The first question I'm going to
ask you is tell me how you going to see your wife with me?
With you? I want her to be focused on you
and not so. OK then.
So technically, you're looking for kind of like the boyfriend
experience. Yeah.
All right, So I need to get inside of here.
I need to get between those ears.
All right. And like I said, I was singing.
One thing you want to do, you want to claim her.
And to get inside of here, I have to claim the mind, OK?
We're not talking about anything down below the belt yet.
I got to claim the mind. OK, When it gets to below the
belt, then I want to train the body.
I want to train the body. All right.
And then and then and then if we become if we if we become very,
very close, like we are very, very close, I want the owner, I
want the owner. So so claim train at home.
OK, I and also to add to all of that like they're all correct.
It took me years, years and he's super secure.
I would not let all the way go. One day I got just drunk enough
during my drinking days and told some dude that I missed his
Dick. I don't say stuff like that.
I don't miss your fucking Dick and your I do I just I was, I
was my own stopping point though, Like because it wasn't
him. He wasn't telling me hey, don't
do this. Don't say that I had free reign
to do whatever, but but I still could not like say those words
because do I want to say that to that dude?
Don't want this dude to tell me he loves my pussy.
Absolutely I do, but I'm not going to.
I don't, I don't know if I want to go that far because what type
of emotion is he going to give me if he says that to me?
Are we just role-playing? Because again, I'm oblivious to
the world. And the few times that that that
I got just enough connection, the guy got too attached to me,
got a little crazy, said a few crazy things and I was like, I'm
good. I already got one crazy bad all
the time. No, Sir, we're not doing that
again. But yeah, so, yeah, I think the
control for her though, too, is that you don't know what his
intention is or his intent. You know, I'm just making
examples what the other person's intention is.
They may really like her and they may really love fucking her
back. What?
What's the point where you the guy knows that this is just role
play. I don't care what you say to me
when your Dick is in me and what I say to you when it comes out
of me. Like we're back to what's up.
Like, how did I hope you had a good day?
Da, da, da. So yeah, I think you it, it's
hard just to jump in like he said and just just jump in and
let go. I, I can.
I am too OCD for that in my mind.
And I cannot ever do that. Yeah, he's, he's been telling me
for years. I want you to fuck somebody.
Just not tell me like when I get home, I'll, I'll like do it.
But I'll, you know, you just tell me when you get home or you
tell me when you're fucking me. Like I don't care.
So. I'm going to tell you one of my.
I'm going to tell. You I haven't done it yet
because I can't get past doing it myself.
We got one minute, so we're going to get ready to wrap it up
because we got mikes and keys and ankles.
Who's got you know? We'll be back here.
Tomorrow we will be back. Tomorrow we will continue it.
I greatly appreciate the people who came in.
Come back tomorrow because I would love to just continue this
conversation. This is the old faces podcast.
Our podcast is old faces OFACEZ. If you go back to some episodes
you you'll get to see Missus Moco even when she was on the
podcast drunk as shit, misbehaving with the girls.
And you know, me being her non drunk, OK, I was drunk couple
times. Yeah, there were several.
Times. Yeah, we went through a.
There was a couple times, yeah. But until next, we got a sex
book playing back here too. That's good job.
All right, Thank you guys very much.
We'll be back. Tomorrow at 3:00 PM.