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Hello everybody and welcome to 
another episode of O Faces. 

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I'm your host Mr. Mocha and this
is my beautiful Co Hostess. 

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I haven't really been much of A 
host. 

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My wife, you going to introduce 
yourself, wife? 

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Oh, misses mocha. 
I'm misses Mocha. 

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Whenever I introduce whenever I 
say misses mocha then I get 

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yelled at but now when I don't 
say it she just skips right over

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all right before I get started. 
Is any is anybody wearing a 

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belt? 
Sorry, I may need to borrow to 

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spank my wife during this 
podcast. 

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Sorry. 
Bring it. 

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On not the one that threatened 
with a span joining us today. 

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So we we usually do 2 podcasts 
at Mocha. 

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Either a will do a old faces 
podcast with the wife and I or 

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I'll do or she'll do a dirty 
girl's corner which is her in a 

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female panel, or I will do a man
of old faces panel which is 

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myself in the male panel. 
But you know the wife likes to 

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be surrounded by penis, so 
either way she wants to be here.

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It feels like a gangbang kind 
of, but like without having to 

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do hand motion. 
They're. 

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All my hands all have to be 
like, you know, they're a 

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practice round. 
So today what we're going to do 

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before we get going, we've got a
bunch of people who we know in 

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here. 
Thank you everybody for coming. 

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You know, we got some of our 
friends in the back. 

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I don't know if we could use 
your names. 

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No C&B, we'll just call them C&B
starting from the back. 

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And then of course, I'm going to
say Blushing Vixen, because 

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Blushing Vixen is always present
her and Reserved Stag, whether 

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it's when we do a Twitter 
Spaces, they're always present, 

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they're always there. 
And then of course, everybody 

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else, all the other friends, we 
got a bunch of people we've 

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never met and we've got people 
who we've met before on the 

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panel. 
Yes, my love, you're. 

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Going to fall backwards. 
I can remember we got a 

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concussion. 
I mean, that's not as bad as 

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what you do to me at home. 
She's been abusive. 

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No. 
You. 

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Choked me the other day. 
You liked it? 

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So yeah, yeah. 
She's, she's more like grabbing 

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my hand, like, yeah, stop. 
I'm not ready for that. 

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Yeah, but I have a panel of 
gentlemen next to me within the 

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audience. 
One of the things that I like to

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focus on is things that are 
going to help us be better in 

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the lifestyle. 
And one of the bigger challenges

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that we often have in the 
lifestyle is finding our place, 

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finding our niche and being 
comfortable with our niche and 

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our place. 
From a male standpoint, whether 

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you are a husband and if you are
a single guy within the husband 

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dynamic, if you're a stag, if 
you're a bull, if you're a cook,

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single guy, if you are just 
playing the role of single guy 

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AKA manicorn, you play. 
Or if you're a bull, where 

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you're actually interacting with
cuckold couples, getting from 

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one place to another, 
identifying what you like, what 

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you enjoy, accepting the fact 
that we deal with a lot of 

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social constructs that we're all
born into, that we deal with, 

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and getting past those things 
within the lifestyle. 

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As guys, we're only good if we 
know who we are and what we want

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and what we're offering. 
When we are confused and we are 

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having those internal battles 
with ourselves, we show up and 

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we present poorly. 
So from the male standpoint and 

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the female standpoint, those are
things that we're going to kind 

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to kind of address. 
I'm going to start with pick on 

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1st Brian Morgan, the Sigma 
male. 

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I will pick on him first. 
I'm his hype man today. 

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Brian Morgan AKA the Sigma male 
stepping into the the space of 

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lifestyle. 
How do you present and how do 

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you how, how, how, how hard was 
it for you to identify what you 

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wanted to do so that you offer 
females or couples in the 

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lifestyle a good experience? 
First of all, I had to look 

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within myself like what kind of 
bull am I going to be? 

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What characteristics do I 
exemplify on a daily basis? 

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All right, ladies, this is for 
the ladies. 

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You like looks, don't you? 
When you see good looking guy, 

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you like looks. 
So I try my damnedest to keep 

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myself looking. 
I not like I am 58 years old and

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that's my age. 
So body game face. 

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I shave his head every day. 
When you look at me, I want you 

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to see like OK, that's that's I 
like that. 

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I like that. 
Then when I approach a couple 

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and I'm lucky to have my baby 
girl and her husband out there 

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in the audience when we started 
talking, the conversations 

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between he and I because I do 
not think about talking to her 

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exclusively until I established 
that rapport, that trust, that 

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level of respect to that 
husband. 

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I don't care if it's a female 
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I, she's just going to have to 
know, wait, I have to talk to 

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him. 
I'm going to talk to him, OK? 

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Because as we evolve, if this 
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fine, but I'm looking at more of
getting in between here also. 

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So when I deal with a couple, 
especially that husband, he 

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needs to know that he needs to 
understand I'm going to do three

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things. 
I'm going to do three things 

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when I'm with the couple and 
when I'm with her. 

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A, I'm going to respect you. 
B, I'm going to protect you. 

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And then three, the love 
physically. 

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OK, so that's how I go into 
meeting someone and then 

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establishing, like I said, that 
communication and being honest. 

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Be honest with me because I'm 
going to be honest with you, you

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know? 
And then we go, we go with it. 

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Now for me, when I first came 
into the lifestyle, like I was 

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just trying to stick my Dick in,
that was it, you know, like I, 

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I'm not When I first got into 
lifestyle, it was my friend 

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introduced me. 
His wife was attractive. 

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He asked if I want to play with 
her and I'm like, are you 

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fucking with me? 
And I did it. 

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And then for a long time for me 
was really just the excitement 

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of the sex. 
It took years for me to start 

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dealing with emotional 
connections and identifying that

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it was as a couple. 
It was more than just fucking 

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somebody's wife, I'm not going 
to lie. 

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And I think there was a point in
my life where I probably created

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more damage accidentally in 
relationships then, you know, 

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looking back on it, because I've
always been a very open person. 

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If you say I can have sex with 
your wife, I'm going to have sex

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with her. 
If you say that I can have a 

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boyfriend type relationship, I'm
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You know, and I did those things
and it was always like, man, 

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this is getting weird. 
And that's because I didn't 

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understand that there were I 
didn't understand that there 

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were two people there. 
Oftentimes when I talk on a 

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podcast, I only speak from 
personal experience and for now 

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at 46 years old. 
You're 40. 

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Six, watch your mouth. 
You know the the, the good that 

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I can speak of. 
There is there are very few 

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experienced guys in the 
lifestyle who can't say that 

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they had a lot of fuck ups 
early. 

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Like moments where I've been 
embarrassed, moments where I'm 

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like, oh, like, oh, so sorry. 
We had a lot of those early on. 

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Like I'll have younger guys 
like, oh man, you really got it 

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figured out, bro. 
There's a whole lot of dumpster 

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fires before, before I had it 
figured out in every way, shape 

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or form emotionally, man, 
there's just so many things. 

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So now understanding that you're
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have to to learn to read those 
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determine if what those two 
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It was what I'm willing to give.
And even if I find the wife 

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extremely attractive, I'm OK 
with turning down things if I 

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know that I'm going and create 
damage. 

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I also have a cheat. 
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married, my wife is it's fun 
when I'm talking about couples 

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I'm interacting with now for the
first time, I also have a female

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perspective. 
You know, there's times that 

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she'll GoDaddy this chick is 
thinking this and and here I am 

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a guy with all this experience 
of having sex with women. 

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I'm like woman, I know what I'm 
talking about. 

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Then I'm like, honey, I'll be 
damned, you were right after 

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about 13 or 1400 times of damn, 
you were right. 

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Now I'm kind of like, OK, I'll 
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my experience to a different 
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And now when I interact with a 
couple now it's kind of the what

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are we, what am I looking for? 
Is this a short term just 

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nothing but fun? 
Is this a couple who I enjoy 

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their I, I enjoy their, their, 
their conversation. 

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I enjoy them as people. 
We're going to become friends. 

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And now this is not only 
friends, but it's friends with a

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potential long term sexual 
relationship. 

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And now that I have that, how 
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How much time do I spend? 
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this is where people get 
confused at that husband being 

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close to him might mean that him
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That wouldn't mean that that 
that for him could be us being 

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super close. 
It may be. 

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It may mean that when we're in 
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cook to the 9th degree, but 
outside the bedroom, we're 

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talking sports, we're talking, 
you know, hunting fit, we're 

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talking work, we're talking 
nothing that has to do with 

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that. 
It's all of those things that, 

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you know, for me, I've learned 
that if I want to have a great 

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experience, I have to learn. 
But I had the first be 

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comfortable with me, you know, 
because you go back, we grew up,

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Yeah. 
We grew up like the first time 

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you told somebody like, yeah, 
I'm in a lifestyle. 

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They're like, hey, you fuck up, 
you watch. 

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And now. 
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that my wife, look, I let other 
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My wife, you know, they were 
like, what? 

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You let dudes? 
Fuck your wife, what the fuck is

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wrong with you? 
You know now I really don't give

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any fuck so it's easy for me to 
laugh it off and not care. 

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But many years ago, I remember 
the first time hearing someone 

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close to me talking about 
someone else we found that was 

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in lifestyle. 
I was like, Oh my God, what if 

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somebody finds out that I'm into
that? 

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I mean, I don't care anymore. 
I mean, obviously I got a plat, 

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yeah, a public platform, so 
everybody knows. 

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But before I had to accept that 
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So that's how I that's just me. 
So now I'm going to move on to a

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another gentleman. 
Now I'm going to move on. 

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I'm going to pick on my boy Rob,
AKA Gym rat. 

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You know I was going to pick on,
you know I was. 

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Going to pick on you. 
So no, no, I'm playing look, you

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got you got 5 minutes. 
But what I'm picking on him 

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because of the way he chooses 
what he wants and identifies 

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what he wants in the couple. 
How do you determine what you 

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like in the couple and how do 
you go from picking the couple 

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and maintaining it? 
Because I've seen couples who he

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interacts with and how much they
love him. 

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How do you choose who you want 
to play with? 

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Well, I'm going to be honest 
with you due to the fact that 

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the uncle couples small 
community within the lifestyle, 

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the word of mouth is pretty much
how long you know, you know, you

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introduce people and you know, 
they share they still works 

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with, you know, each other. 
So it really takes a lot of, you

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know what I mean, because of the
experience, the experience of, 

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you know, they always say, oh, 
it's about the woman, it's about

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the woman, but is it really 
about a woman when sometimes a 

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husband has so many demands, he 
got so many things that he wants

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you to do and how he wants you 
to do it. 

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Then I switch it up man, and 
focus on my attention on the 

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one. 
I focus on everything that I 

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know she probably is not getting
from a marriage relationship. 

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Let's be honest, after someone 
is married for like 10 to 15 

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years, the husband, he's not 
like taking the shoes off, 

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massaging the feet, kissing the 
toes, baby, baby, stuff like 

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that, that they, they've been 
through that shit out of the 

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window. 
That's when I come along. 

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Now I start that we finalize the
relationship. 

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Now I'm starting to stimulate 
them without having to 

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physically be involved, like 
sexually engaged to do things 

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that everybody like, you know, 
you have kids, a lot of shit 

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goes to the wayside, but the 
fact that I'm being attentive to

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with things like favorite color,
you smell good. 

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What type of perfume is that? 
Have you ever tried this 

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perfume? 
You think that go along with 

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your you know, just now they're 
starting them like, damn, you're

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having a do you ever thought 
about getting cut that way? 

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I look good with a little bit of
then you dress them up. 

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She then she realized, God damn 
this he's paying attention and a

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lot of men, like I say, they've 
been married 12 for so long. 

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They they're in the routine. 
I mean, it's just, it's just 

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like so. 
I'm gonna pause you. 

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I'm gonna pause you here for one
second because you just What he 

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just said is church. 
What have I told you about why I

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always say I can't be the best? 
I'm not going to be the number 

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one Dick, you fuck. 
What do I say I. 

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Don't. 
Know damn my mood. 

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We don't. 
Have this conversation 1000 

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times, I told her before. 
You know all of my moods. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I, I can't surprise you anymore.

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You can anticipate everything I 
do. 

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A new guy coming in with that 
type of energy and attitude, she

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don't know what she's going to 
get. 

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Literally. 
I can, I was saying earlier, we 

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can be having sex and I can 
touch her with my pinky and 

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she'll move into the position 
that I wanted her in. 

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She may enjoy the sex with me, 
but it's no longer a surprise. 

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And if you've been married in 
here for more than five years 

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and you say that what he just 
said is a lie, you fucking liar,

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because that is true. 
All the little things that you 

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do in the beginning, once you 
start, you have all these things

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happen together. 
The bills, the kids, the stress,

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blah, blah, blah. 
A lot of those things falls off 

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to the wayside. 
And so when the guy comes in and

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all of a sudden he's providing 
those things, he. 

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Finalized it he let us know how 
to be dated again a lot of women

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forgot how to be dated because 
they've been married for so long

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married and dated you. 
So a lot of times when if I do 

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find a situation where the 
husband is allowed you know that

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they dating it wakes up she 
sniffs brought attention to 

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smokers on hugs she'll not work 
on anything else. 

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I mean, when we go out, 
everything is focused on her, 

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the ticket. 
I mean, we, she gets in the car.

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I mean it, it's more, it's more,
I mean, she take a shower with 

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the same guy. 
She, I mean, she, she has seen 

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the good, she's seen the bad. 
We just, we, we just have pains.

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I want to make sure during that 
time that we're together, that 

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we fulfill every more every 
minute we are talking about, we 

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lose, we lose each other, each 
other in that time. 

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So that time I focus on, I don't
let, I don't do procrastination.

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I stay away from those people. 
I'm not going to let you waste 

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my time because I know how 
valuable it is. 

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Explain that. 
Explain that. 

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Well, you got a lot of guys that
the reason they're losing is so 

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much because a lot of they got 
to say that happens. 

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The reason I say that because 
they and so they want everybody 

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else to kind of lead and they do
it subconsciously because they 

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want to please the bumps. 
They they so it's so government 

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on making sure that she's 
pleased and making sure that 

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that that you know, you're doing
the right thing that some guys 

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lose focus on like the command, 
the leadership to say, OK, it's 

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what we're doing. 
That's it. 

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I, we, I'm not asking you like 
this is what I got to tell that 

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we're going here, going to do 
this. 

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And she, like a lot of women 
like to but but instinct land 

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like women can smell me. 
They they can stink if they know

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they they did. 
You know what I mean? 

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I don't have to put on the show,
the song and the dance. 

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So you reopen, you reopen, and 
they have been put in the vault 

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for a while. 
But the only way you can really 

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start commanding the. 
Attention got to talk to them. 

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I talk to him because and I also
tell a woman to listen. 

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I know how hard it is because 
he's so used to telling kids 

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what to do, husband what to do. 
You might have a job when you're

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telling employees what to do, 
but when it comes to me, you got

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to get the opportunity to you, 
You got to be. 

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If you can't leave, I mean you 
can't follow, then we got to 

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wear a good match because I 
don't want to get in a situation

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where we we bump the hands. 
You're not in guys situations 

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like that where I have to come 
down in the bedroom. 

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I don't need you don't tell when
the Jordan not to talk about I 

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know what I'm doing. 
OK, I understand that you 

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probably have a just give me a 
chance. 

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You'll be like give me a chance 
to fulfill you, but mentally 

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then we'll get to the the the 
sex part because I don't need 

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the rooms. 
Once you lay down, she's 

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dragging it like, hey, let's, 
let's. 

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Let's leave. 
We had a conversation. 

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Let's do all the things, OK, 
let's let's let's go over your 

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body. 
Let's see what your body like. 

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OK, This is all figuring out 
what you like that you don't 

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like, what stimulates you 
mentioned, but a lot of guys you

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can't do that in 15 minutes. 
You have to invest time because 

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you got even going for numbers 
should never get that experience

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because the only thing she do, 
she just want the next one. 

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Sure, but then if you got there,
you got that ring man that's 

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fueling that energy. 
OK, baby, he he went his way, 

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OK, he he didn't come here, you 
know, lost focus and everything 

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since then. 
You didn't caught up and those 

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people, they walked right by me.
So that's why I have to deal 

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with those because they so 
caught up in their own world. 

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It's so caught up in OK, it's 
flash. 

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How many guys I'm going to do to
stand before. 

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So what I do is I I fly into the
radar and I get those quality 

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companies to where when they go 
in the bedroom, they want to be 

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in there to have an experience. 
They just don't want to say 

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anything black. 
They want to make sure they say,

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hey, I went down there. 
It was a guy named this 

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motherfucker. 
That's what I want. 

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I don't want, I don't want all 
that others. 

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So now, so I'm, I'm going to, 
I'm going to move on to the next

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job. 
But he said a couple things that

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we've talked about before. 
So we, we had this conversation 

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before that him and I had a 
conversation like you're not 

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knocking anybody who's into it, 
but I've gone into a room, you 

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start to play with somebody and 
she reaches for a vibrator right

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away. 
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, 

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wait. 
Give me a chance. 

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Let me, let me first. 
Like I don't mind you using your

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vibrator. 
So just from listening on the 

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outside end, I don't care about 
vibrators, you know that I 

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didn't even use one until I met 
him 15 years ago. 

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But I I think too like, but it's
also the the type of guy that 

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you're looking at because there 
are people that come to this 

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event that are just sport 
fuckers. 

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Like I'm not, I don't knock it. 
If we're at my house, we got 

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time. 
But if I'm here, I'm not 

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necessarily trying to knock out 
numbers. 

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But I only see Rob once a year. 
I only see Brian once a year. 

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I only see you once a year. 
Like, so I want to make time to 

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play with everybody. 
I'm also like a fuck, fuck first

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talk later type of person. 
But you know, everybody has 

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their thing, like whatever you 
need. 

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But also like what you were 
saying too is that, you know, 

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like you kind of lose that 
spark. 

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We took like I took a little 
break and I realized that like 

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this, he gives me all the 
attention and more and he makes 

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sure that I always feel like 100
about myself or I won't come to 

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an event. 
He knows that like I'll stay 

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home. 
I if I don't feel like myself. 

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No, no, no. 
But wait, what I'm saying. 

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That long? 
Time ago, because that's true. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
But what I'm saying? 

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Is so. 
True, I but what I'm saying is 

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here too, like although he gives
me all that attention, it does 

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feel good to come here and get 
more attention because it's new 

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and it's exciting. 
Like and I I can't say I have 

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low self esteem at all, but it's
just almost like we're re dating

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because every time we come to 
one of these events and if I get

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a certain type of attention, he 
gets like you said, a certain 

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type of attention that I don't 
always give him. 

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Because if I can live together, 
you know, like I see you all the

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time. 
We work for together, like we're

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always together. 
So like you said, it's a 

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routine. 
So when I come here, it is the 

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excitement of a different type 
of attention. 

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No matter what your attention 
what what type of attention I'm 

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getting, you know I'm wanting 
negative attention. 

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Yeah. 
And I think one of the things 

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that that has excited me about 
my wife throughout the years is 

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when I first met her, any sheet 
when I first met her, she'd 

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submit to any guy. 
Now, now over the years, going 

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back to what he said, and that's
really a thing, there's 

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oftentimes where a strong female
is not going to be submissive to

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someone who's weaker than she 
is. 

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Like she don't want a guy who 
she like. 

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If she's looking for a dominant 
sexual partner at that moment, 

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we're not talking about husband,
life partner, whatever. 

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We're talking about, she's 
walking to a place and she wants

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a guy who is dominant. 
Dominant means that she can feel

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safe to give him control. 
Dominant don't mean that he's, 

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you know, all of that loud, 
aggressive shit. 

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And dominant doesn't mean 
aggressive. 

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Yeah. 
Submission is trust. 

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I see this person. 
They're strong enough. 

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Just like I've always said, you 
don't want a man who you can 

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physically overpower, you also 
don't want a, if you're walking 

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into a situation where you want 
a guy who's sexually dominant, 

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that's his job to make you feel 
like or make you desire to give 

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him that submission. 
And it's, it's exciting when I 

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see my wife when we're talking 
because my, as you can see, she 

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says fucks aren't mine. 
You know, we'll talk about guys 

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that she's men and she's like, 
so this guy, this guy thought he

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was a DOB and she'll laugh. 
We'll laugh about it all the 

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time or. 
It's usually a text message that

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says Daddy I'm about to tell you
the T when I get. 

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Home or on the other side of 
that, like I don't believe, like

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I feel like if I said hey, be my
wife wants to play with you, I'm

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not going to tell him how to 
play with her. 

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Me. 
If she wanted me, she'd stay in 

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the bedroom with me. 
The whole point is her going 

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into the bedroom with him and 
getting that different 

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experience. 
Just like I was saying earlier, 

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I've had husbands try to tell me
how to play with his wife. 

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It's like bro, you're fucking up
for her. 

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I've said this 1000 times. 
If I go into a room with a 

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woman, it's not my job to get my
Dick hard. 

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But at the same time, if I go 
into a room with a woman, it's 

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not her job to get aroused. 
It's my job to arouse her. 

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I've got to figure it out. 
I've got to do the research. 

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I got to explore. 
I've got to ask the questions. 

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I got to touch the spots. 
I've got to be paying attention.

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You know, that's just how it's 
supposed to work. 

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Now before we we Ravel along, we
are we going to go ahead and 

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gentleman Jack what? 
Are you doing? 

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Gentleman Jack, I am. 
Gentleman Jack, I didn't. 

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Have AT. 
Shirt and all that. 

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Just wow. 
So 50 year. 

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Old. 
Partner Bull live in Houston, do

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a little BDSM and when I came to
splash I was new to hot Wife Cup

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play over about 6 splashes. 
Now it's kind of ventured into 

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race play, which is harder to 
stay out of race play than it is

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to get into race play. 
And race play doesn't mean 

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shouting out the N word and 
epitaph. 

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It just means whatever you feel 
like exploring on a cultural 

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racial dynamic. 
So that's pretty much what I 

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like to do. 
So every splash I may play a 

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little bit less. 
But like he said, once you get 

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into the idea of the experience,
you play less, but the 

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experiences are deeper. 
And we agree with that. 

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Yeah, Because if now sport 
fucking does have its place, we 

442
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,240
would not be here if everybody 
was coming in to play with like 

443
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,360
2-3 people. 
The playrooms are open, the 

444
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,720
playrooms open. 
I don't let it get empty because

445
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280
they do. 
But is you have to the 

446
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,520
experienced people have to lead 
the non experienced people into 

447
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,680
like this role. 
Don't let them stay in the 

448
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,680
comfort zone because a lot of 
people will get clique is 

449
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,440
they'll talk to who they know, 
they'll stick to who they know. 

450
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080
They won't take referrals or 
they only will take referrals 

451
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,400
and they won't get out there and
adventure. 

452
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,360
But you got to. 
But yeah, it's don't be ashamed 

453
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,120
of who you are. 
Every splash you're going to 

454
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,960
grow. 
Every party you should grow 

455
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,080
because you're not. 
Then you know you're wasting 

456
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,520
your time. 
OK. 

457
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,320
So. 
Question I'll. 

458
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,960
I'll be Q&A, Q&A here. 
We. 

459
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Go. 
So from now until like from 

460
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,120
'cause you went from single male
to a couple, you're a couple, 

461
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,560
yeah. 
Start up single male. 

462
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Can count, but talk about the 
differences between just being a

463
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,680
single male pursuing people and 
now where you where you are as a

464
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,480
couple or with a couple like 
what what were like the the like

465
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720
goods and bads. 
I know we've had some bads. 

466
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,920
You can say start with the good.
OK, this should be on the safe 

467
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,200
side. 
I'll leave. 

468
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,160
I'll leave when? 
You start with the bad, but I'll

469
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,280
leave. 
Like yeah, but I start. 

470
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,680
Talking about no, but I mean 
from when you were single and 

471
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,520
now that you're in a couple. 
So for me personally, so when I 

472
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:21,920
when I single as a single guy, I
learned that's where I learned a

473
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:28,480
lot single playing with couples 
first as a sports fucker, which 

474
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,240
let's get this straight, I still
am happy to sport fuck. 

475
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Absolutely. 
OK. 

476
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,280
We are at the top of the food 
chain, which means that we can 

477
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,120
eat meat and vegetables. 
OK, Like we can do it all. 

478
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,480
I've stressed to my wife over 
the years that her power as a 

479
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,040
woman stepping out of the social
construct is that she has the 

480
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400
power to do that. 
You can sport, fuck, you can. 

481
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,280
You can play with someone who 
you're engaged with mentally, 

482
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,320
intellectually, and you can play
with someone who you're engaged 

483
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,440
with emotionally. 
You have the ability to do them 

484
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,760
all. 
I don't want to ever be in a 

485
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,720
box. 
So that being said, when I was 

486
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,480
single, everything for me was 
organic. 

487
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,120
I explored those things 
organically. 

488
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,720
I am very much of it feels right
right now. 

489
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,760
I want to do it. 
So as a single guy, I learned a 

490
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,480
lot once I started speaking to 
couples, speaking to husbands. 

491
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,480
That's kind of how I learned how
I wanted to make my 

492
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,120
relationship. 
I wanted to do you. 

493
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240
Feel like your interactions with
the the way you interact with 

494
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,200
like single females and couples 
change because you're a single, 

495
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,200
because you're a couple now. 
Oh, God, yes, yes, yes. 

496
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Now we're in the beginning. 
Because now we're in the 

497
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,160
beginning. 
We're different. 

498
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,360
Don't talk about the. 
Beginning OK, I'm a little crazy

499
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,160
and lazy. 
Wife is not in the mood to be 

500
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,520
thrown into the bus on this 
episode. 

501
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,520
I don't care, No. 
So when we first got into the 

502
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760
lifestyle together, I definitely
made a lot of changes. 

503
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,440
But I made those changes because
I told her in the very 

504
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,640
beginning, we can't be 
partnered. 

505
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,880
If you don't know, if you never 
experienced what I've 

506
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,600
experienced as a single guy, I 
had access to access as a single

507
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,760
woman. 
A woman can always outnumber a 

508
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400
guy with sex, but there's a very
big difference. 

509
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Oftentimes vanilla females have 
a whole lot of sex, but they're 

510
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,560
having sex for confirmation. 
That's no power. 

511
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,720
The power is when you're having 
sex because you want sex. 

512
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,080
The power comes when, as a 
woman, you are playing because I

513
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,280
see it, therefore I want it, so 
therefore I conquer it and I 

514
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,800
enjoy it. 
So she hadn't experienced that. 

515
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,640
She had a lot of numbers, but 
she hadn't experienced it 

516
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,800
through my eyes and through my 
lens where you can have sex and 

517
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,320
you start to see how people 
interact with you. 

518
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,440
And after a few years of us 
being together, she played with 

519
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,160
a couple guys who she played 
with before we together and they

520
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,160
play with her. 
They're like, you are a 

521
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,800
different person and she was a 
different person. 

522
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,960
That to me was power. 
Like I sit back and I watch her 

523
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,320
interact with guys now. 
And you know, we talked like 2 

524
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,880
dudes. 
Like we really talk like 2 

525
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840
dudes. 
If you ever hear us talk off 

526
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,160
about like her play dates or my 
play dates, you laugh your ass 

527
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,200
off because we talk like 2 guys.
But that was the whole point. 

528
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,120
You can't be my spouse if you 
don't understand me. 

529
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,960
So I took probably the first 70 
years of our relationship to 

530
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,720
kind of help her understand to 
get it. 

531
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680
And it was it was fun. 
It was exciting to me for to 

532
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,840
build her and to let her slowly 
transition through different 

533
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,520
phases. 
My first, my beginning of 

534
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320
actually knowing that, oh, I can
fuck some nice wife for her, it 

535
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,240
was wait, I can fuck a dude and 
you're not going to be jealous. 

536
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,200
You know that was right. 
Quick, for me, I just want to 

537
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960
get out there and open there. 
A lot of guys like don't get me 

538
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,800
wrong, like $2.00 support 
fucking, I get it. 

539
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,280
And when I first came in the 
game, I played the game like 12 

540
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760
years like, but I get it. 
I was doing the same thing. 

541
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,160
But what a part of it is 
eventually, man, you can't keep 

542
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,360
that shit up. 
You got to be sport fucking for 

543
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,280
10 years. 
Like it's not it's mentally you 

544
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,840
because you when you first come 
to the last guy support 

545
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,400
eventually, man, you don't have 
to figure out like I don't do 

546
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,640
stand business and it gets I 
don't mind telling people I 

547
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,360
don't do that. 
And then some people ask why you

548
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:48,160
don't do that because I'm the 
type that when I engage with the

549
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,480
wife sexually, women having a 
good time, I don't want someone 

550
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,280
to be Asian to just come and 
interrupt that because what it 

551
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,160
does, it becomes distraction to 
me. 

552
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,920
So if I'm giving you 100% of my 
time and my attention. 

553
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,680
To you. 
Right. 

554
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,159
I didn't set up here, packed my 
bags, bought my ticket, came 

555
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,080
back here, invested my time and 
to get to know people. 

556
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,000
So when I get in this room, I 
don't want to be able to well, 

557
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000
she's into me and then she keeps
doing this. 

558
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,760
She keeps doing this now. 
Now all of a sudden, now you 

559
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,320
become a toy in this room now. 
So I don't like to engage like 

560
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,520
that. 
I want to be able to. 

561
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,400
If I'm focused on her, I want my
husband to be comfortable enough

562
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,760
so I have to focus on me. 
If he had any issues where he's 

563
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,760
sitting in the corner, he's over
there and no one is paying 

564
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,280
attention to him. 
And this is what I learned in 

565
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120
the lifestyle. 
People that have been married 

566
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,159
20/20/10 and 15 years, they can 
do something in that room that 

567
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,840
you don't know and it's going to
catch her attention. 

568
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,679
Now all of a sudden she's 
worried about OK, why is Greg 

569
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,440
pacing? 
Why has he even been in the 

570
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,720
bathroom? 
For you still. 

571
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Like yeah, you still it's hard 
to revitalize it. 

572
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,880
So that's why I stay away from 
them because a lot of my 

573
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,640
experience with staying vixens, 
they they are and not all. 

574
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,000
It's just that the trust level 
is kind of shaky sometimes 

575
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,880
because she wants him to be 
involved and then she get any 

576
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,600
inclination that he's not 
enjoying himself. 

577
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,000
If you go wrong at home, I can 
see you. 

578
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Just you just at that point in 
time. 

579
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,200
Yeah. 
You support fucking in this? 

580
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,600
I had literally, I have 
literally stopped and asked the 

581
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,520
husband, hey, do you want to do 
this? 

582
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,480
No, I'm not joking. 
Like hey, hey, hey, fucking like

583
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,680
turn on the side, do this, do 
this. 

584
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040
So now like my SO now my Dick 
going limp because. 

585
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:03,280
I've had this happen to me 
before and it was like the worst

586
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:09,080
experience I've ever had in all 
my years of of hot wifey. 

587
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400
Where I beautiful couple, 
beautiful couple. 

588
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,920
She's absolutely drop dead 
gorgeous. 

589
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,520
I'm thinking to myself, OK, this
is going to be a hot encounter, 

590
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,680
a very hot encounter. 
Like you said, you know, I knew 

591
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,680
exactly how to bring them 
together. 

592
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,840
But we we get started and it's 
good. 

593
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,320
It's good people, it's good. 
But he all of a sudden turns 

594
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,320
into vivid video director of the
year. 

595
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,800
OK, stop right there. 
Can I get a shot? 

596
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Can I get a shot right there And
literally? 

597
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,560
At first I was like, OK, well. 
OK, well, you know, get the 

598
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,120
shot. 
Go. 

599
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,360
I go back, go back. 
I'm noticing that things down 

600
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560
shifted a little bit down here, 
but I'm like, all right, I get 

601
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,840
it back. 
I get it back. 

602
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,800
I get it back. 
All right, This is what I want 

603
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,080
to see right here. 
Stop turn her doggy style. 

604
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,280
Now you, you, you get there. 
Get the right angle. 

605
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,880
I'm going to get up under as a 
dog. 

606
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Hold up man. 
When he said that everything 

607
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,560
just everything dropped. 
Everything dropped. 

608
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,560
I was like do do. 
You. 

609
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,080
I'm not getting paid for this. 
What are you doing? 

610
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,440
So what's funny is that we got 
we got that conversation in the.

611
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,320
Group where? 
The the lady was telling us that

612
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,280
one of her friends lost the 
bull. 

613
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,520
He decided he couldn't be with 
them anymore because after about

614
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,600
I think it was like 3 years 
there together somewhere. 

615
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,840
What period of time it was 
basically they became so 

616
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,840
demanding and so directive that 
the fantasy was no longer 

617
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600
mutual. 
And he got so burnt out that he 

618
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,120
even considered leaving a 
lifestyle. 

619
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,880
And it was like, no, lead them. 
And to me, you got to have a lot

620
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,000
of conversations and not a lot 
of conversations like numerous 

621
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
conversations. 
We have enough conversation to 

622
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,280
where the husband and the wife, 
like you say you're treating two

623
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,480
different people. 
I treat them as left brain talk 

624
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,400
to the wife with respect for the
husband, respect for the 

625
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,320
husband. 
Like you said, could be one week

626
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520
conversation, two week 
conversation could be just touch

627
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,880
base in and just see if it's a 
lot. 

628
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,280
But what happens is, and this is
really what I've told single 

629
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:24,240
guys is you have to mature 
enough to know when to say no, 

630
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:29,640
no in conversation when that 
situation is not for you or is 

631
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,200
going to go into something 
that's not for you. 

632
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,880
And either it's going to be a 
one off because you want to do 

633
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,360
it, or it's just you just got to
let it decline at the 

634
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,280
conversation because you've got 
to know yourself enough to know 

635
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,320
that that's not your thing. 
And sometimes you get 

636
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,160
inexperienced people, 
inexperienced males, they come 

637
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,520
in that think I got to do 
whatever they want me to do or 

638
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680
else. 
You're here for. 3. 

639
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,000
Days, it's about 1000 people 
here. 

640
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,200
Somebody wants what you want. 
Have enough conversation and you

641
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,400
have to be efficient in that 
conversation sometimes and know 

642
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,840
in 5 minutes within two 
conversations. 

643
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,720
If you're going back and forth 
on Telegram within a few 

644
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,320
conversations, this is going to 
work or it's not. 

645
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,680
Because like you said, if the 
experience is not mutual or the 

646
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,280
experience is not for you, don't
even get on the plane. 

647
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,760
And I'll tell you this for me, 
believe it or not, like when it 

648
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:26,720
comes to events, I don't talk to
people on Telegram or SDC or 

649
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:32,000
anything prior to because. 
He he barely responds to my text

650
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,040
messages when he's gone for 18 
hours in a day. 

651
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,120
So if you're expecting a, no If 
you're expecting any type of 

652
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,400
typing response. 
Back he's calling you and my 

653
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,520
friends know I'm a little 
dyslexic too so you know but but

654
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,640
truth be told, I feel like this 
maybe it's because of my age. 

655
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,720
There's something that's a lot 
more intimate like I'm going to 

656
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,520
stick my penis inside of your 
wife so me text messing you and 

657
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,160
her without listening to those 
inflections and listen to the 

658
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,960
emotions and talking to you. 
I miss so much. 

659
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,280
So I won't even engage with a 
couple if I start, if I text you

660
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960
and we've established a mutual 
connection, physical, physical 

661
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,320
attraction. 
And you don't want to talk on 

662
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,640
the phone, especially seeing as 
how I'm not talking to 25 year 

663
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,040
old couples, I'm talking to 
people my age. 

664
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,960
So you're 4550 years old and you
don't want to have a phone 

665
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,480
conversation. 
You're not for me and about Mr. 

666
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Mocha though, too, is he likes 
to. 

667
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,600
He likes to hear things he's not
good at, like I like. 

668
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,760
I'll sex the right person all 
day or I don't do it at all. 

669
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,840
It's a, I'm very like five to 
seven business days. 

670
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,200
I might respond, but for him, he
likes to hear, hey, we're in a 

671
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,240
public room. 
No one can see under the gasket.

672
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,520
There's a table blocking right 
here. 

673
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,000
No one can see you. 
But. 

674
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Yeah, ask questions. 
Absolutely. 

675
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,760
Do somebody have a question? 
But yeah, I think for him, he 

676
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,560
likes to actually like, hear 
because he listens to like audio

677
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,000
books and stuff like that all 
day. 

678
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,440
So he likes to like, hear your 
voice, what you like, want to 

679
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,000
say dah, dah, dah, body 
language. 

680
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,920
Yeah, like that, that type of 
when? 

681
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200
I talk to the husband. 
I'm looking at body language. 

682
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,840
I'm going to say something 100. 
Percent. 

683
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,240
Like maybe you have never heard 
before and if you kind of like, 

684
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,600
OK, well, can you elaborate a 
little bit more or you give me 

685
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,200
that look like you might need to
do a little bit more research or

686
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,920
you and the wife go and talk a 
little bit more and then I'll be

687
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,840
more than happy to talk to you 
guys as a couple, as a couple. 

688
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,080
OK. 
Then when the three of us get on

689
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,840
the same page, we can turn that 
page and go from there. 

690
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,560
If I don't get that Brian is not
it's nothing against you. 

691
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,880
It's nothing against you, both 
of You Beautiful nothing, just 

692
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,600
that love you. 
I but I can't come into this 

693
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,000
situation. 
When I come into the situation, 

694
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,480
all I am doing is is I'm 
blending in. 

695
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,840
If you if you guys have done 
what you supposed to do and that

696
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,720
that's those my baby girl right 
there and her husband, her 

697
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,440
husband, Phillip. 
And when I got with them, I just

698
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,040
blended right in. 
I've blended right in and it's 

699
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,240
little beautiful. 
I, I did them. 

700
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,840
I don't know, my mouth got dry 
right here, but yeah, I just I, 

701
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,760
I blended right in and it's been
a wonderful almost two years, 

702
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
right, Almost two years. 
Been the one for two years. 

703
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,920
But if you yeah, I have to see 
you, the texting thing, it's 

704
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,080
fine to say hello. 
You know, my name is such and 

705
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,840
such dot dot dot. 
Just you know, I'm reaching out 

706
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,640
because you reached out to me, 
etcetera, etcetera. 

707
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,240
But after we do that, I'm like, 
I would like to, I would like 

708
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:02,120
to, yes, we need to meet. 
We need to meet I. 

709
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920
Think though, if you're like new
coming to one of these events as

710
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,160
a couple and you've never done 
anything like this before, like.

711
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,920
My like my couple that's here 
now. 

712
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520
Right, but. 
But they have they. 

713
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,000
Have you like, you know, they 
have you that can kind of tell 

714
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,200
them what to do, But if I, I can
say I'm pretty oblivious to 

715
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,320
things most of the time because 
he and he can attest to those 

716
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,960
things. 
There's been times I've missed 

717
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,680
major cues because I don't, I 
absolutely pay 0 fucking 

718
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,160
attention down to going through 
the airport. 

719
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Anything that doesn't involve 
involve work or the kids. 

720
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,200
So I mean, at least you know, 
like Rob and you can say like 

721
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,720
you, you guys know exactly what 
you want and what you're looking

722
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:49,200
for and you could pick that out.
I'll be honest, most of the time

723
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,840
I, I know what I like, but I, I 
don't know, I can't necessarily 

724
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,200
say like you guys, you, you 
know, your experience. 

725
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,200
This is what I want. 
And I can't, there's never been 

726
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,360
a time in lifestyle where I can 
just be like, Oh yeah, this is 

727
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,680
what I want. 
And I'm going to do that. 

728
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,680
Like, I wish, I wish that I 
could say that, say that, but I 

729
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,240
don't because like ask him, he 
can, he used to be able to like 

730
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,280
pick guys and be like, Oh yeah, 
you're going to do this, You're 

731
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,960
going to do that. 
But I'm day-to-day. 

732
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,320
So I'm saying that to say, what 
if you have those couples, you 

733
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,560
just don't deal with them, You 
don't deal with them that. 

734
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,560
That's. 
Cool. 

735
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,480
But what if you had a couple and
you could just say to like guide

736
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,920
them through? 
OK, I don't necessarily, I'm not

737
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,240
going to play with you 
personally, but can you give 

738
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,160
that? 
Would you give them advice like 

739
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,000
for you or you or whoever like? 
That I'm not I'm. 

740
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,440
Not saying that I won't I'm. 
Trying to do everything in my 

741
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:50,880
power to to, to to make this and
positive type thing. 

742
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,640
I hate to meet you in there. 
And I'm going to be like, damn, 

743
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,360
I'm not, this is not going 
anywhere. 

744
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,880
You know what I mean? 
I hate that I hate it, You know,

745
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,280
did I do everything in my power 
as that good quality pool to 

746
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,360
make this, you know, a 
successful journey? 

747
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,560
Because right now the experience
is not successful, but the 

748
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,640
journey can be revitalized. 
And that's revitalized with two 

749
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,680
things, patience and time. 
And that's all I have in this 

750
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,000
lifestyle, right? 
Based in time for I have evolved

751
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,480
tremendously. 
I go out tremendously. 

752
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
I was first introduced while 
living in Germany. 

753
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,800
I was 26 years old, beautiful 
lady, 48 years old Russian Lord 

754
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,160
anniversary. 
Reminiscing, reminiscing. 

755
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,840
Let me see your penis real 
quick. 

756
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,320
Lady Long story short ended up 
going back to to a place. 

757
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,240
Things get heated up in the car,
we take it to the house, I'm in 

758
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,600
the house, things are going 
great because I love older women

759
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,240
and all of a sudden somebody 
comes from around the corner. 

760
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,640
I almost shit on myself. 
The husband came from around the

761
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,200
corner. 
I'm trying to put my drawers on 

762
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520
and can't find them. 
You know what I mean? 

763
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,680
And, and, and I'm like, what's 
what, you know, what is this? 

764
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:14,880
You know what, what's going 
baby, baby, it's OK, it's OK, 

765
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:27,800
It's OK. 
But anyway, though, I mean, I 

766
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,240
really couldn't run, you know 
what I'm saying? 

767
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:31,360
The way the way I really 
couldn't run. 

768
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:33,760
I couldn't run. 
So I had to stay there. 

769
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,760
And they both calmed me down at 
the time. 

770
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,280
Hey, this is I'm 26, OK, it's 
30. 

771
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Two years ago. 
So we didn't have the 

772
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080
terminology. 
Hot wife, you know, BBC cook 

773
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Stag. 
I didn't, I didn't know. 

774
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,880
But they were in the life and 
that was their dynamic, you 

775
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,320
know, didn't let nobody know. 
But he watched. 

776
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:59,040
But he liked what he saw and 
thought that maybe something 

777
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,280
could evolve from this. 
And it ended up evolving and it 

778
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,000
was a hell of a damn run. 
I She's actually been an escort 

779
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,520
for two years. 
She was my handler. 

780
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:20,080
That's. 
What they got, if anybody knows 

781
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,240
about Europe, the European 
people are absolutely. 

782
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,120
And there's a beautiful lady 
right there and, and, and, and 

783
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:35,200
who looks like she might be from
someplace else, France, France, 

784
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,520
that's so uninhibited, so 
uninhibited, so sexual. 

785
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,120
So, so sex and so freaking 
sexual, Right. 

786
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,520
Am I right or wrong? 
Yeah, you do. 

787
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,680
I'm right. 
So they do things a whole lot 

788
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,560
differently. 
A whole lot differently. 

789
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,760
And so that's how I was like 
introduced to this. 

790
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,880
So it's like I'm doing apology 
because. 

791
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,040
I want I know that he had a 
question. 

792
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,680
Go ahead, Rachel. 
Oh, Philip from the. 

793
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,800
Beginning. 
I'm not trying to throw her into

794
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,040
the bus, however she will 
interpret that text completely 

795
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,000
different than someone else. 
I'll read the same text that 

796
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:23,240
should be left, pick up the 
phone and make the phone talk 

797
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:27,360
and you have a better 
understanding true of what 

798
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,920
you're trying to communicate 
when. 

799
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,640
You're talking with the phone. 
Also, emojis are essential, Yes.

800
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Yeah, a devil faced. 
Yeah, you can say asshole on the

801
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,360
podcast. 
Yeah. 

802
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,040
The green wristband Give your 
permission to say asshole out 

803
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,000
loud you. 
Could say it on the podcast. 

804
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,760
We don't believe anything. 
I've iPhone and I've said this 

805
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,960
to guys and and this will offend
some guys. 

806
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,840
Don't say it. 
Say it as. 

807
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,080
It as it as it as you. 
See it? 

808
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:11,920
If you are an experienced guy in
the lifestyle, single guy or guy

809
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:18,440
who plays with couples and you 
don't turn down way more 

810
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,000
opportunities, not outside this 
environment, yeah, If you don't 

811
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,400
turn down way more opportunities
than you take, you're like a 

812
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,760
throw shit at the wall and see 
what stick kind of person. 

813
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Yeah, Yeah, exactly. 
I am very much. 

814
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,240
I want what I want and I don't 
accept anything else. 

815
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,720
And he will not let you tell him
what the fuck to do either. 

816
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,200
Yeah, that's just, that's not 
who I am. 

817
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,600
I mean, it's just not me. 
But here's the thing, I know 

818
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,360
what experience I'm going to 
provide. 

819
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,040
You know there's. 
Something to say it's not real 

820
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:59,960
well-being. 
A couple trying to find a guy 

821
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:09,000
that is going to show her the 
respect, the care, the what what

822
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:17,160
What can a husband look into and
what type of it's. 

823
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,880
It is like. 
Shooting. 

824
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,240
Throwing. 
Arrows. 

825
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,160
At dart board trying to find a 
guy that will. 

826
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,040
Step up. 
And beat that guy because I 

827
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:36,040
don't want her to experience 
because the in the lifestyle is 

828
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,240
single. 
We got together, yeah. 

829
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,960
She just whispered he's a hoax, 
yeah. 

830
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:52,520
I want her to and to feel and 
have the experience of yeah, we 

831
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,400
we, like you said, I can, I can 
do one thing and she knows 

832
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,200
exactly what position I want her
to be. 

833
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,720
But yeah. 
And I until you said it like 

834
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,520
that's what I've been not able 
to explain to her. 

835
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,440
I'm like, I want somebody to be 
able to do and make you feel 

836
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:10,920
like that. 
I don't. 

837
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,000
It's not bad just to give you 
that experience that some of 

838
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,760
these wives, they know the 
husband and some of them being 

839
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,200
honest, they know someone. 
That's boy. 

840
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:36,680
Oh, but they know 1000% if they.
Really put their tooth on the 

841
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,000
God which you said. 
She wants to. 

842
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,280
Have fun. 
With it's two weeks of hell at 

843
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:55,640
home. 
And a lot of guys, because of 

844
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,600
that, get reluctant. 
A lot of guys because of what he

845
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,680
just said. 
We go into it real careful. 

846
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,760
Real careful. 
Yeah. 

847
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,680
So. 
Here you go. 

848
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,040
So you've been married. 
What? 

849
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,840
How long? 
We've been together 15 years. 

850
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:18,000
OK, so I'm in the microwave 
because my partner, we actually 

851
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,840
became friends in 2021. 
She brought me the splash for 

852
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,680
the first time November 22. 
So picture this for a second. 

853
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,640
You husband, love, love your 
wife. 

854
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,400
Provide for your wife, Protect 
your wife right? 

855
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,880
Sexually, when she goes to be 
herself, she's protecting you 

856
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,080
because she doesn't want to do 
something that makes you feel 

857
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,280
insecure, that takes away your 
sexual power, your masculinity. 

858
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,880
So she'll shrink herself 
sexually until you show her that

859
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,040
you can handle the expansion of 
who she is. 

860
00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Every woman, every woman, just 
like she protected them and she 

861
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,320
loved them. 
So, So you grow up so, so here. 

862
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,080
So you grow up. 
So you grow up in an environment

863
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,760
black that boys will be boys, 
women are women have brothers, 

864
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,400
uncles, fathers. 
They grew up in an environment 

865
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,640
that when a man shows his whole 
side and sex life, oh guys will 

866
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,680
be guys. 
Guys got the same time, those 

867
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,680
same elders, family members 
telling her to shrink herself 

868
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,120
because she has to be elite. 
You have to show her that you 

869
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,680
can handle when she expands 
herself. 

870
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,640
She will not expand herself 
until you show her that you can 

871
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,800
handle it, and she's only going 
to expand herself unless she 

872
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,440
wants to piss you off to the 
version of that you can handle. 

873
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,040
So that guy that is trying to 
entertain her, he's he's only 

874
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,400
getting a little bit from her. 
So he's not going to stick 

875
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,120
around. 
So that's why we I keep, I keep,

876
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,520
we keep looking, we go keep 
looking because that guy, that 

877
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,360
quality guy that you're looking 
for, he's no, he's only going to

878
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,760
be a certain time for her. 
He's going to certain my 

879
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,720
attention from her. 
Now imagine him getting a little

880
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:02,640
bit he's sitting over here and 
get a life. 

881
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,160
He's not going to waste that 
time into it. 

882
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Now, you know, because he's that
before he made she is not 

883
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,000
comfortable enough to say, hey, 
you know what? 

884
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,040
Because if she starts really 
giving this guy time, then he 

885
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,520
can step around because now he 
got something to look. 

886
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,640
Forward to it. 
But if you don't have nothing 

887
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,160
but just the fact that because 
I'm not this man, but she got to

888
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,000
have more just she got to be 
ready. 

889
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:36,600
I need her to be a date. 
But if she's here, you know, 

890
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,080
but. 
Like you said, it's patients on 

891
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,520
both sides. 
You're the claim. 

892
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:48,960
You're the claim that my well. 
If I'm getting like he's not, 

893
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,240
I'm not. 
I'm not saying 70% of the time a

894
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:59,080
text message. 
I'm talking about the effort 

895
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:00,680
into. 
That's what. 

896
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,920
I'm saying because we we all 
adults. 

897
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:14,600
I'm not asking you to. 
The only time we talk is I'm 

898
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,200
texting you. 
No, that is nothing. 

899
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,240
You know what? 
I'm the. 

900
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
First thing I want to ask him. 
The first question I'm going to 

901
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,080
ask you is tell me how you going
to see your wife with me? 

902
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,760
With you? 
I want her to be focused on you 

903
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,560
and not so. 
OK then. 

904
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,320
So technically, you're looking 
for kind of like the boyfriend 

905
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,200
experience. 
Yeah. 

906
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:38,120
All right, So I need to get 
inside of here. 

907
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,400
I need to get between those 
ears. 

908
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,880
All right. 
And like I said, I was singing. 

909
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,960
One thing you want to do, you 
want to claim her. 

910
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,360
And to get inside of here, I 
have to claim the mind, OK? 

911
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,760
We're not talking about anything
down below the belt yet. 

912
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,880
I got to claim the mind. 
OK, When it gets to below the 

913
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,560
belt, then I want to train the 
body. 

914
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,200
I want to train the body. 
All right. 

915
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,520
And then and then and then if we
become if we if we become very, 

916
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,360
very close, like we are very, 
very close, I want the owner, I 

917
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,400
want the owner. 
So so claim train at home. 

918
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,240
OK, I and also to add to all of 
that like they're all correct. 

919
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,200
It took me years, years and he's
super secure. 

920
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,360
I would not let all the way go. 
One day I got just drunk enough 

921
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:36,720
during my drinking days and told
some dude that I missed his 

922
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,040
Dick. 
I don't say stuff like that. 

923
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,760
I don't miss your fucking Dick 
and your I do I just I was, I 

924
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,120
was my own stopping point 
though, Like because it wasn't 

925
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,440
him. 
He wasn't telling me hey, don't 

926
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,760
do this. 
Don't say that I had free reign 

927
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:59,000
to do whatever, but but I still 
could not like say those words 

928
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,120
because do I want to say that to
that dude? 

929
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,520
Don't want this dude to tell me 
he loves my pussy. 

930
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Absolutely I do, but I'm not 
going to. 

931
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,200
I don't, I don't know if I want 
to go that far because what type

932
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,200
of emotion is he going to give 
me if he says that to me? 

933
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,160
Are we just role-playing? 
Because again, I'm oblivious to 

934
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,160
the world. 
And the few times that that that

935
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,160
I got just enough connection, 
the guy got too attached to me, 

936
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,960
got a little crazy, said a few 
crazy things and I was like, I'm

937
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,880
good. 
I already got one crazy bad all 

938
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,200
the time. 
No, Sir, we're not doing that 

939
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,240
again. 
But yeah, so, yeah, I think the 

940
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,240
control for her though, too, is 
that you don't know what his 

941
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,560
intention is or his intent. 
You know, I'm just making 

942
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,000
examples what the other person's
intention is. 

943
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,040
They may really like her and 
they may really love fucking her

944
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,640
back. 
What? 

945
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,760
What's the point where you the 
guy knows that this is just role

946
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,880
play. 
I don't care what you say to me 

947
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,960
when your Dick is in me and what
I say to you when it comes out 

948
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,880
of me. 
Like we're back to what's up. 

949
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Like, how did I hope you had a 
good day? 

950
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Da, da, da. 
So yeah, I think you it, it's 

951
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,760
hard just to jump in like he 
said and just just jump in and 

952
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,440
let go. 
I, I can. 

953
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,320
I am too OCD for that in my 
mind. 

954
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:26,120
And I cannot ever do that. 
Yeah, he's, he's been telling me

955
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,040
for years. 
I want you to fuck somebody. 

956
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,000
Just not tell me like when I get
home, I'll, I'll like do it. 

957
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,480
But I'll, you know, you just 
tell me when you get home or you

958
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,280
tell me when you're fucking me. 
Like I don't care. 

959
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,640
So. 
I'm going to tell you one of my.

960
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,800
I'm going to tell. 
You I haven't done it yet 

961
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,920
because I can't get past doing 
it myself. 

962
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,800
We got one minute, so we're 
going to get ready to wrap it up

963
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,760
because we got mikes and keys 
and ankles. 

964
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,160
Who's got you know? 
We'll be back here. 

965
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,720
Tomorrow we will be back. 
Tomorrow we will continue it. 

966
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,680
I greatly appreciate the people 
who came in. 

967
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,280
Come back tomorrow because I 
would love to just continue this

968
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,480
conversation. 
This is the old faces podcast. 

969
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:10,720
Our podcast is old faces OFACEZ.
If you go back to some episodes 

970
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,280
you you'll get to see Missus 
Moco even when she was on the 

971
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,480
podcast drunk as shit, 
misbehaving with the girls. 

972
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:24,720
And you know, me being her non 
drunk, OK, I was drunk couple 

973
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,240
times. 
Yeah, there were several. 

974
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,560
Times. 
Yeah, we went through a. 

975
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:34,480
There was a couple times, yeah. 
But until next, we got a sex 

976
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,320
book playing back here too. 
That's good job. 

977
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,800
All right, Thank you guys very 
much. 

978
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,560
We'll be back. 
Tomorrow at 3:00 PM.

