Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces.
We are your host, Mr. And Mrs. Mocha, I almost forgot my name.
It happens to the best of us and tonight we are going to have
special guest on Seeker Vixen and Secret Stag.
Welcome guys. Hi.
Hi there. We're excited to have you guys
on. We're excited to be on we, I
mean, we're, we're staying up late especially for this.
We are. It's the mocha. 1:00 AM over
here. We are excited to get going.
Yeah, you guys are very excited to get going and get to sleep.
I'm not going to lie, maybe. No way, talking to you guys can
be way more fun than sleep. Oh, I'm excited because, you
know, we actually got to to meet you guys and, you know, I didn't
get an opportunity to spend as much time with you guys as I
wanted to. Because you were being a whore.
No, no, because that was I didn't come back out of the room
that day. Is it Mocha?
You literally were the day you met them with before that.
Yeah, but that day I was crazy busy day.
Yeah, see if it makes you feel bad.
Secret Vixen was also being busy, so you know this happened.
Yeah, I was a different kind of busy at the event, so sometimes
I get crazy different kind of busy.
But you know, next time we'll definitely have some fun.
So are you? Saying you want to have sex
with. Her, Absolutely.
I really don't know if I want to be offended about that or.
You should be offended. Secret victim just sits
awkwardly in the corner. You're good.
You're good, you are good. Don't forget Mrs. Mocha is a
level A level 10 smart ass. So before we go, we didn't get
to know you guys. OK so we have been in the
lifestyle since 20/18/2018 and we would if we're going to label
ourselves we would describe ourselves as being a a stag and
vixen a couple a. Hot wife couple, yeah, we got
into it. So I sort of 10 years prior to
telling her. So 2008 I started having these
fantasies about her and wanted to share and things.
And you know, that time I'm consuming all the wrong kind of
media. You know, I'm onto like the porn
sites and the cuckold porn things and stuff like that.
And I'm watching it and going for a state of like masturbation
and then feeling shit about myself and then wanting to
confess to what it is and thinking, well, I don't want to
be like these guys. I'm watching in the movies.
And, and of course now all power to, to like cuckold couples and
things like that. But I wasn't into the
humiliation stuff. I wasn't into that deep denial
stuff. I wasn't just sharing.
So I didn't know where to go. And eventually after 10 years,
you had a baby, a second, a second child.
And we, we, well, our sex life was, was harder at that point, I
would say. Yeah, I mean, I was kind of all
the stereotypical kind of I'd had my children, I hadn't been
able to get back to kind of pre children weight.
So low, very, very low self esteem and therefore kind of
like our sex life did kind of dry up quite significantly
because if I just didn't feel confident in myself and it was
kind of one of those moments where we'd gone to bed kind of
lights had turned off kind of secrets to I'd made a move and
once again I kind of because. I was always making a move.
I was still trying. Always, always trying.
And again, kind of I'd rejected him essentially again.
And you know, that sort of moment when you're just lying in
bed and you can feel that something wants to be said, but
no one wants to say it. It was kind of a really kind of
heavy silence almost. And eventually secrets that I
just kind of said, oh, anyone would be happy, would like be
happy to have you or something like that.
And I was like, what do you mean like anybody?
Like who? I don't.
I don't know why I said who. I said, well, it's funny if you
say who I was like I. Want names, I want places.
When I was drunk with with a mate of yours a few weeks ago,
we talked about it and this is of course what I was saying in
bed and it all just flooded. I thought I'm I'm going to shoe
wash. I'm going to tell her
everything. And I did.
I told her about a mutual friends, more her friend than my
friend that we've gone very close to, and he was interested
in doing it. And we had great sex that night
where we were finally honest and open about this fantasy.
Three months later. Four months later, we.
Yeah. And I mean, you were quite
shocked at how open to the suggestion that I actually, oh,
you were. Made for this life.
You were made for this life, but.
I also joking the fact that I'm the the most innocent kind of
rude person as it was. I had no idea any of this kind
of world existed. Like when Secret Sag kind of
opened up and told me about this fantasy, I was like you What
this is this true? And I think obviously Secret Sag
was naturally really worried that I was going to take it
completely the wrong way. Yeah.
And funnily enough, I'm being quite a geeky person myself.
When he kind of said that there were almost like these alter
egos of if you're a whole life couple, you're a stag and you're
vixen. I completely bought into that.
I was like, so I can be, I can be a vixen.
I get a label. I get a secret.
I'm one of the X-Men. She's loving it, absolutely.
And then I'm very much like, if I'm going to do this, I'm going
to be the best one there is. And so, yeah.
And there we are. Here we are.
That's the first conversation when she started seeing stuff
like this. Yeah, yeah, I basically.
But then I don't forget I had it all in my head this time.
I've been doing all the wrong things and I told always told
Secret Vixen so many times. And then I've got to the point
where I can't continue being like rejected.
My self esteem's in the gutter. Her self esteem's in the gutter.
And actually, through the power of hindsight, I can recall so
many times before that actual conversation happened where you
had almost tried the conversation that I just kind of
had shut it down or almost that you were so tentative with it
that I didn't kind of pick up on.
Make sense? So yeah, but it it actually, it
did go very positively the conversation.
And then she chatted to this guy who was like her friend and my
friend, and they played together, then dating sites then
Twitter X. And.
Then loads of stuff and then here we are.
So wait. You.
You're jumping. You're jumping.
Wait, wait, wait. I just have a question.
I have a question. So do you feel like, because I
can, I won't say this, but I will say it, do you feel like
you were bored with each other and it spiced it up or you were
just at a place where like everything was kind of like the
same and so the new made it better?
Because I've heard two different perspectives.
I definitely think that the new side was the very exciting thing
for me. I mean, as I said, my self
esteem was so low and suddenly being told that actually people
did find me attractive when I couldn't see myself being
attractive, that instantly my self-confidence did begin to
grow. And I've always been, ever since
kind of like a teenager, I've always been a very, very
monogamous person. I've gone from long term
relationship to long term and so I've never like the whole kind
of dating experience sort of thing.
So for me, when we did start to kind of speak to guys and it was
very much that there would be like a, a kind of a normal, like
a vanilla date. First of all.
Like we would go to like a pub or a restaurant and kind of just
hang out. And so I was kind of getting
that experience of being kind of wined and dined.
So I don't think it wasn't a boredom element of it.
It was just such low self esteem that I just kind of was like,
well, no one's going to find me attractive and all.
I would therefore when we would be having sex, I would just be
kind of thinking, oh gosh, I probably look gross.
I look like some kind of monster.
I look like jabber hot, all that sort of stuff.
Yeah. Mom bar, you're insane.
Yeah, so say that one again. I said mom bods are a thing.
Yeah, absolutely. And and I had always kind of
growing up, I'd done quite a lot of sport and things.
So I'd always kind of quite pride myself that I had a good
like figure. I was in good health.
And then I just could not kind of get anywhere close back to
kind of what I had been sort of pre kids.
And that was obviously having a much kind of bigger
psychological impact on me than I ever kind of thought it would.
So, yeah, so it was kind of just the self-confidence alone kind
of was one of for me was one of the biggest.
Draws. Yeah, I agree.
Mr. Mocha and I can say that, well, I don't know.
I won't speak for him. I feel like I'm being a boss and
I'm not really the boss, but I feel like we kind of have went
through that over the years, even in lifestyle and not
consistently, but like if we take breaks, we are like once we
get back into it, we're like, holy shit.
Like our sex always gets better each time.
I guess. Every time we take a break and
go back into it, I'm like, why do we fucking take a break?
That was so stupid. Yeah, absolutely.
The best experiences we've had have been like, obviously
bringing other people into our marriage has been fucking hard,
but our relationship is always at the core of that and that
reconnects me off, which is always fucking fantastic.
I love that. Can you tell us about your very
first experience SO. The first experience was the
kids had kind of gone away for for the evening.
They were obviously being well looked after.
The kids are total buzz kills so we haven't played at home before
but for this occasion. Yeah.
And so it had been kind of quite it taken a while to kind of
arrange it and kind of for stars almost to align sort of thing.
And we did decide to host here in our house because we kind of
weren't really sure how you would approach it.
And so the kind of the evening came around, the kids weren't
here. So I was kind of getting ready.
And I tend to when dates are about to happen, I kind of will
go quite quiet because I start to kind of really think about
it. I kind of play out almost
scenarios in my head and actually secret style gets very
involved with me getting ready for kind of like a date or an
encounter or whatever you want to just kind of call it.
So he, he often will actually almost pick out my outfits
because he's actually the best person at dressing me because he
will always be, he always sees outfits and he's like, oh, that
would look great on you. And I'm like, really?
Are you sure? And then lo and behold, I'll put
it on and actually I'm like, oh, no, this is quite cute.
I would never have chosen it. And so he's always been very
heavily involved. So he did then actually have to
leave the house to go and kind of collect the guy.
So I did have a little bit of time where I was kind of in the
house on my own were. You shooting yourself?
Yeah, absolutely. I was like.
What am I about to do? Very quickly, kind of having
some Dutch courage, having a drink, just to kind of settle
the nerves. And we had that typical kind of
awkwardness when he did come in, like we were like, where do we
sit? Do I sit next to him on one sofa
or do I sit next to the guy's? Back to the gym for a while,
yeah. After that night, we talked and
the fantasy had sort of. Started rolling yeah.
Because I absolutely, I'm not the sort of person who can just
be like Wham, bam, thank you ma'am sort of thing I have there
has to be a connection. And I was really fortunate that
it was a say, a friend who I'd had since I was almost like a
kid. But obviously.
This was taking things to a new level.
Oh, yeah. So we were so awkward with one
another even though we've known each other most of our lives.
So yeah, we were kind of sat next to each other on the sofa
just like kind of doing like sideways looks kind of going.
How do we? What do we do?
I'm on the other sofa looking like fucking.
They're gonna do it. They're gonna do the thing.
Oh my God. It wasn't, it wasn't sexy in the
slightest. It was so awkward and then a
secret to accident. You're like, oh what, why don't
you touch her leg 'cause I was wearing kind of like wet look
leather. Oh yeah, I had her looking in
all the stuff and I get the heels on and the wet look.
Legging last year, it's like. Touch her leg it they feel great
in the trousers and then I was kind of like, oh, stuffy or big
so awkward. Are you exactly you would?
Have just sat there all we were just sat.
There and discussed the weather and stuff.
But yeah, so that kind of happened and then it instigated
and then kind of hand on the leg then went to kind of we started
to kiss. And I was genuinely shocked at
how the second we started kissing, it just didn't suddenly
feel awkward anymore. Even though again, this was
like, you were one of my best mates.
And still it is still a kind of it hasn't destroyed our
relationship. There is a friend Wait.
Wait, you, I'm sorry, say that part again.
You said it did. So we no, it didn't.
So we're still good, we're still good friends, but we're now kind
of in very different stages. Like at the time he was he was
single, but since then he is now kind of married and has moved
away. But we're still like, we are
definitely still friends and things like that.
There was never a worry that that would happen as well
because obviously I've known this guy for years and years and
years and years as well. And it was all quite
comfortable. And but from the moment watching
you, when you got started, as you said, you said you felt no
worry or nerves from the other side.
I was like, oh man, she is fully into this.
This is, this is great. This is great.
There was nerves, of course, but it was very natural.
It was very comfortable. There was laughter and drugs and
these you're laughing in the bedroom when stuff is happening.
It's always a good sign. And it was a great experience.
So did you did? You have rules going into it the
first time. Not hugely like initially I had
kind of said that like I was like, Oh no, you don't get
involved because I don't know how I'm going to cope because
I've never had like a threesome or anything at that point.
So I wasn't that was complete like new territory for me.
So I was very much like you don't get involved.
But then where kind of things just kind of it was quite
organic. Naturally things happened and
actually I did engage it's kind of secret stag and actually
eventually it kind of did turn more into a three then kind of a
voyeuristic. And we'd see we we sort of a
couple of times after and about proper threesomes and we like
did like more balanced threesomes, less of a hot wire
situation, more of a FM Yeah, yeah.
From there, that's where it all we all.
Did you watch porn the leading up to that?
Because the did you share porns that you saw with her to lead up
to that or did you just dive right in?
Mr. Mocha, I'm still trying to share porns of her now.
She is like the most prim and proper rude person you've ever
met. She's like, she doesn't really
watch porn. She's not really into those
sorts of things. You're a very sort of cerebral
person. You enjoy stories and talking
about things. Yeah.
I would much rather kind of read about things and watch it and I
think that's actually part of where the blogs then kind of
came around because if I was having because if as where we
have to be. For context, we write It's a
lifestyle blog where we talk about your adventures and stuff.
Yeah. And the reason why that came
around was because of where we having to be quite secretive and
we can't give away our kind of true identities.
Again, superhero secret, secret names.
I'm totally here for it. I was having these like
wonderful experiences and I couldn't talk to like my closest
friends about it. And I was like, but I need to, I
need to tell somebody about what's going on.
So I kind of thought, well, let's try writing it down.
So I did and then I was writing it and then I was kind of
thinking, well, how on earth am I going to get people to now
read it? And then that's when we kind of
joined Twitter so that basically I could just share this like
these wonderful encounters that I was having.
And also from I quite like the idea of seeing if my writing
would help others because as I said, I had no idea about this
kind of size of things. I had no idea about the
lifestyle kind of naughty Twitter as it was then,
obviously X now. And yeah, that's kind of where
it came from. So even now, as as Secret Stag
says, we don't really, I don't really massively partake.
I do partake in the porn, just to put it out there.
I'm fully involved. I love all that.
Porn that you watch? Pardon.
Who is the porn that you watch? I watch your porn, my love.
I watch your porn. I enjoy watching her and I watch
her things back in the run up to it.
Yeah, porn was never a thing for us.
But I would like, I would like you to watch more porn now.
I think she's very exciting. That would be a really good
thing. Yeah, I've kind of started to
kind of watch it a little bit more now, but not not hugely so.
I do have to ask one question. OK, yeah, you've used the word
rude a couple times. What?
What does rude mean on on your side of the?
Pond, So on our side of the pond kind of you, there's it's it's a
homophone essentially rude. So obviously it could, you can
use it to describe people who aren't being very kind.
But also in this sense, when I'm using it, it's kind of it's like
the sexy side of stuff. As I said, I'm the most PG kind
of naughty person there is. Sexy.
Naughty. Mary Poppins I often get
described. As me yeah got.
You yes got. You the same?
Mr. Mocha calls me Mary Poppins frequently.
Really. I actually I will be
practically. Perfect in every way.
Yes, of course. You know, wake up with a
spoonful of sugar and a blowjob. Help.
The medicine go down. I would like that.
Where's my where's my morning blowjob?
And yeah, oh gosh, I love all that stuff.
I think porn is, it's always a double edged sword in a way,
because I love consuming real, real situations, like the
reasons I like watching my wife in situations.
So I know that it was real and I know it was an organic natural
situation. It wasn't like a scripted thing.
I know scripted porn exists. I know it's really fun too.
But yeah, for us, I really enjoy the the the the real element of
ill. So now you, you're, you're a
stag as well. So do you you play as well?
Yeah. Yeah, we do.
You know what during sorry, I'll cut you off Mr. Ocha during
lockdown because 2020 came. We are on this massive high,
weren't we about this is going to be the greatest in New York,
NY met some great people and you played and we're like this is
going to be the greatest hot wife year ever. 2020 is the year
it happens for us and obviously COVID here locked down all of
this, but we fell into the swinging community then via X
met some wonderful people. And yes, I'm fortunate to play
with some great people. We met some great lifelong
friends, a couple we're super close to who we're, we're almost
in a like a like a quite close relationship with them.
Now. The hotline thing is always on
my mind, though. So even though I'm I was a
staggered heart, I I really thrive off watching Secret mix
and play with other men. Mr. Mocha is that way also.
I feel like we wear more than one name tag only because same
like he enjoys seeing me play. Like there's been several times
that we play, I play in the basement in like a specific room
and I look over and see the shadow of his Dick hard standing
in the door and I'm like, OK, don't make eye contact, don't
make eye contact. So, but I think he's the same in
that like I can, I like like either playing by myself or in
Group settings. So I can live with or without
like him playing, but he's also not.
I don't want to say you're bad at it, but he's not as good at
group stuff as I am. Definitely not OK.
I am terrible at group stuff. My my attention span is is way
way too too short for group stuff.
You're messing with my headphones.
Oh, sorry. About that, I can't hear
anything and he keeps turning it down.
We'll turn yours up. OK.
Thank you. So yeah, for me, I have a heart.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
No, this. I think VIX is probably the
same. You quite like one-on-one
encounters. You're feeling some great.
The thing is with everything, with the lifestyle for us has
been kind of just ever evolving. So when we first started, I was
very adamant. I was like, no, I don't want to
see you play. I don't want to cry.
Yeah, you're not to get involved with anyone.
And then I. Just I approached the whole
thing. This wasn't like a trick to
trick her into getting into swinging.
I was fully on board. Like hot wiping to where I want
to be even if I don't ever play with someone.
Yeah. And then it kind of even quite a
little more, as I said on this very first encounter, he did
kind of get involved. And then Our Secret Stag says
during kind of COVID, and once COVID eased and then obviously
kind of events and things started happening again, there
were situations where there were orgies and kind of multiple
play. And actually Secret Stag did
play with other women. And as I said, it just kind of
shows that is ever evolving for us.
And like the key is that communication has to be at the
heart of it. So we'd often we'd always say
that we'd have our best debriefs with each other on the drive
back from an event or something with that's when we'd end up
having the most honest conversation.
Absolutely. So, so far, as far as like your
when you first started, you didn't really have rules.
Have you created rules now? Or you just like go with the
flow like that feels good. So yeah, we'll talk about that
today and you can go. We're kind of, yeah, a little
bit of both there. We're kind of, I'd say there
were some soft rules initially, which as I said, we kind of, it
turned out that they weren't, they didn't stick, hence they're
kind of. The playing.
That were you playing with others?
We've always been a kissing couple.
Kissing is a major importance to you.
Yeah, so I know some couples aren't caught that, but we've
always been a kissing couple. But we are very much kind of go
with the flow sort of people. And I've often people will say
to me, oh, what's your fantasy? What's your fantasy?
And my literally my head will just kind of go blank.
But then in the moment when I'm kind of playing with a guy,
that's when I'll suddenly kind of be very open to kind of
suggestions and things. And then.
You need inspiration. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And then after we'd kind of we would debrief and sort of say,
oh, how did that kind of go? So for example, when we were at
the event, at the recent event, there were some kind of
situations which were very new for us.
And actually afterwards I was like, you know what it was, the
play was great, but I didn't like that element of it or that
didn't quite do anything. And that's what you had this
conversation because I was talking to Secret Bixon saying,
oh, I thought I was feeding off your energy and I thought you
were liking that. She's like, no, I wasn't really
liking that. And that's OK.
You know, not every flat, not every play that goes perfect.
And you learn from each of them. And we're learning as we're
going, aren't we? Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, like that you said that your inspiration kind of comes
when you have a Dick in you because that's literally my most
nasty times. And I just tell Mister Mocha
later, like, Oh yeah, I did this, this and this.
And he's like, he still is shocked some days at some of the
stuff that I actually come up with.
But I'm also like super cerebral.
Like, I like, like dirty talk. And if you say the right things
at the right time, you get like missus mocha times 10 and
usually first go round is usually like missus mocha like 3
or 4 because I don't like to scare anyone off.
So I can't say everything that's in my head.
But after, you know, like I said, if you say the right thing
the first time, you'll get it all and it's there.
But. It's like an achievement on
Xbox. You like unlock the next level
Like yes. Yep.
Now, of course, unless. Unless she's like she's like a
she'll get into a certain headspace will she'll just go
fucking wild. You know, you get her in the
event she she's good by herself, but she's kind of like a a pack
animal. If you get her and you know, two
or three of her, her female friends who match her energy,
it's just who is, you know, some, some poor guys going to
get fucked to death. You know, she's she's just
getting more gets more and more and more wound up as she goes.
So, you know, I like and I'm like in the background like
encouraging her bad behavior. Like yeah, yes, you know, I
don't think, I don't think he respects your Dick sucking game.
I heard him saying you didn't know what you're doing.
And she's like, what? I'll show that motherfucker a
throat Zilla. I got this.
So, Mr. Mocha, what you're saying is we need to get a
secret mixer then misses Mocha together and see if their
energies match and we can see it we've.
Been as long as you're OK with babysitting.
You know Mr. Mocha won't babysit mad events, so if you're OK with
babysitting, I'm in. Yeah, You know, my wife is like
a social butterfly. You know, catching her is like
catching the wind sometimes. There's times when I'll be
standing somewhere with her and I'll turn my back and then
she'll be gone. And then, you know, people just
like, oh, yeah, I saw your wife down there.
Oh, hey, I saw you. Like everyone like, literally
walks by and gives me like a status report on where Misses
Mocha is located. It's like, Where's Waldo you?
Know. Yeah, yeah, we're putting out
posters like, what? Have you seen this woman?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we don't even need
posters. Everybody knows Like they just,
if they walk past them, like, hey, I just saw her up on the
4th floor. Oh, great.
Thanks. If I if, if I was still
drinking, it would be cool to have a shirt that said please
return to Mr. Mocha, I mean. You need a shirt like that even
though you're not drinking for. True, true.
Yeah. I mean.
I would love that. I love the relationship you guys
have, the energy you have and the freedom you get each other.
It's beautiful. I love it.
I I appreciate it. Yeah, she's all right.
Thank you I'll. Keep her wrong for her.
I told her I'm gonna wait a few years before I trade her in.
Only hit him in the face a few times when he's asleep at night
like just like 2 * a week to keep him in line you know?
So you guys been doing it since 2018, right?
8. 18. 1880, I thought you said eight.
Oh, OK, I misheard. Oh.
Man, 2008 I was still masturbating furiously and
thinking I hate myself and I want to watch the fucking but I
hate it. What's going on?
It's still masturbating. Curiously, I like.
Yeah, man, I'm telling you now. Is your Dick OK?
It's just about working these days 2018 So I keep thinking
that oh, you know, I always when we used to describe ourselves
like, oh, we're quite new to the lifestyle and we haven't done
this and that, but actually I. Suppose we're not I.
Suppose this day we're not really.
We've done quite a bit so. We've seen something.
Yeah, we've seen some things That's that's pretty good.
All right, so your, your trip to the US you made what, 2 trips to
the US now, right? For lifestyle stuff for.
Lifestyle stuff, yeah. Have you made Sorry?
No, go ahead. Yeah.
No, I was going to say the first trip was kind of it, It wasn't
initially going to be a lifestyle trip, but it just kind
of, again, it was * the line sort of moment.
It just so happens. And we kind of joked that by day
we were tourists, but by kind of night it was full on lifestyle
stuff. And that was, as I say, that was
New Year's 2019 going into 2020. And then obviously the New
Year's just passed as well. We we kind of made it over
again. We did, yeah.
That first one, I think, you know, there was a real tourist
element to it. You know, we were in New York by
day and living that and then hot but then hot wife encounters in
the evening. But the most recent trip to the
States for for the recent event was for within we went with.
Your lifestyle. Oh yeah, that was a massive
backing for us. I think you know, once you
really, you know, now you guys are going to get to a point, or
at least we did, where every trip, no matter where we go,
there's going to be some lifestyle happening.
We can call it How? We can call you say this.
Is what I say. Why would you not want that in
your trip though? Why would you want to go on
holiday? Why would you want to go on
vacation and not have some great Dick?
Oh shit. Mocha misses mocha like.
Let me see if I find some Dick. It's usually not, not hard, but
I mean, it is hard. The Dick's hard.
But the yeah, I mean, like it's, oh shit, that's what we call it.
Like you said, it's daytime. It's just like, let's chill and
do some stuff and then night time we do horseshit.
Oh yeah, we did. I did visit my mom when we were
at Splash Mocha and pretended like I was not at a whole BBC
party. It's amazing that is.
Absolutely. Just wonderful.
I love that. But.
That's the thing, if you're able to have that in your day, like
you can have all these wonderful, fulfilling, familiar
experiences and in the evening or have more than other
experiences, why don't we just, there are people who would like
kill to have those kind of experiences that we get to have.
I really appreciate. I'm grateful every day that we
get them. And I guess when you're going on
a lifestyle holiday, you're not going on holiday for sleep and
rest. We've got a little bit of sleep
and rest. We got a little bit of sleep and
rest in the land back. Exhausted.
No. Absolutely.
If I don't come back home and we don't come back home exhausted
and you know, you know what, you know, sort of parts.
After our very first mocha, Mr. Mocha and I came second mocha.
Was it the first or second? The first mocha?
We both came home. We literally live like 30
minutes from the hotel because our first mocha was Atlanta.
We got home, Mr. Mocha looked at me.
We both look like death. OK.
Like I needed like 60 eye patches just to like keep like
look like I was alive. So Mr. Moga looked at me, he
said I'm going to go shower, I'm giving you about 20 strokes and
I'm going the fuck to sleep and that we went to bed at like 7:00
PM. We never do that, like ever.
And he did exactly that. We both were like, I mean like.
My pussy was almost swollen shut of course, because I had fucked
more Dicks than I cared to mention.
Here I got in. Yeah.
And then exactly. Yeah, a man of sheer will.
Yes, yes, you know my motto at home.
As if it don't fit. Force it exactly well after
that. After that though too.
That was when I started talking about glass dildos.
Like freezing the glass dildos and putting them in your pussy
like during the event. What would you need?
The glass dildo whilst we were there.
It is true, everyone did. That was the recommendation.
The last night, the last night, Slash, she was on the bed.
We were waiting to see if she'd made it, had a date with two
guys. Two guys were going to come to
the room, Really nice guys. They were playing and I said
we're going to come straight after.
We're going to come to you straight after.
So she's on the bed, She's wearing the leather, the fucking
lace shit. It's got the high heels on and
she's dead. She's dead in the bed.
And I'm like, this is not going to work you.
You cannot go on. And so I had to like, strip her
off and put a bed. No, just give them like just
give them 10 more minutes. Literally props up again.
I can do it. They won't get the best show.
I'll. Give it a go.
That sounds like a scene from a movie.
She's superhero is not. She's going to give everything
she has left for the cause. It is.
It's like, yeah, I'll tell you what.
Not all superheroes wear capes. Some wear.
Leather in lanes and meals and shit.
Yeah, see. That stuff.
It was great fun and we came away from the event having made
great friends, but also there were people there who we had
great times of who we didn't get to play with and but we made
links with and it was exciting. Come away thinking or maybe
that's going to happen in the future.
Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I think there's some guys
that I've talked to for like 3 years before we're actually able
to do something because it's just, there's so many people
there that it's, I can't say that it's hard to make a choice
because for me it's not. I'm not good at scheduling.
I don't want to schedule it. I kind of just want things to
happen and if they do, then cool.
And if you catch me at 12:30 and you say, do you want to meet in
your room at one and I'm in near my room, then I say yes.
But my problem is, is I'll talk myself out of a Dick because
I'll sit in my room and anticipate being tardy to my own
fucking room. So I'll talk myself out of it.
I'll be like, OK, I'm just going to go socialize somewhere
because there's too many things. I'm really stimulated.
So I just, I have to, you have to very much catch me on the
fly. Like he said, I'm all over the
place and then I'm not. And in November at Houston, that
was why I was so hyper focused because I kept getting on the
elevator and guys just kept saying like, hey, what are you
doing? And I was freshly showered and I
was like, you know what, I could take another Dick.
Let's go back to the room. I feel like, I feel like guys
weren't saying what are you doing?
I feel like she was getting on and like, like drafting Dick,
like you, you with me, you know, And then she's just taking.
Guys out. I legit wasn't like the last
day. That's just how it fell.
Like one guy messaged me, I got stuck in the room.
Another guy messaged me, I went up to his room, go back to my
room. I showered then or excuse me,
our room and I showered and then got on the elevator.
And then this guy with dreads that was super fucking hot, like
got on the elevator and he stared at me like steak.
And I was like, do you want a steak dinner, Sir?
Because I'm here to serve you. Look, let's go.
So he came back up to the room and we got some more.
So it just, I was in the right headspace and I didn't like I
said, you know how I am. I don't like pressure.
Most up until this splash, I'm a night owl and I'm always, I'm
always the last one to come into the room.
Last splash, you know, she was dragging herself in there.
You know, basically what I imagine, you know, Secret Vixen
was like, she's just like dragging herself and then laying
in the bed with a box of fucking cheeses, you know, trying to get
some while I'm there, like a good husband sleeping waiting
for her. No, by the time that I was done,
I was usually on my edible. Nobody listens to this, but I
was on my edible and I was like, get to the room and it's like
doing a bunch of cardio. I was hungry.
So one night I excuse me. One morning I got to our room at
5:00 in the morning and I was eating a sandwich on the, like,
little sofa in our room with a flashlight from my phone.
Like just sitting there giggling, trying not to wake him
up because I couldn't wait for him to wake up to tell him what
fuckery I had been doing. Yeah.
I really love that. I think we had the most sex
we've ever had. Usually at Mocha we don't like
we'll have sex once or twice at Mocha's because I'm like, she
complaints that when I, when I get in there, I, I try to beat
her up and I'm like, I'm not trying to beat you up.
I'm just excited. And so usually I don't, but she
was, she was such a fucking slut at the last one.
I just couldn't contain myself. Like she come in with that dirty
look in her eyes and I'm like, come here, let me talk to you
for a second and. I'm like, daddy, that's what.
I. Just hear what you've been doing
today, what you've been doing. Come here.
Yeah. That was the most exciting for
us. I don't know if you guys do
this, but for us, like I always like save it.
Like I'll tell him stuff, but I'll save him the really dirty
shit until we're fucking. Oh my God, yes, this is her.
Yep, and. Go ahead.
No, no, go ahead, tell us. OK.
She's still got some, she's still got some fucking ammo
ready from Splash. So like, so So what happened
when when you were doing that? She's like, I'll tell you, I'll
tell you at some point. Like, oh, that bitch.
That's good work. That's good work.
It took me a long time to get her to do this.
Like I, you know, I just told her like, you know, she want to
tell me and I'm like, Nah, don't tell me.
No, I'll tell you when I'm done. But I also was like, he wanted
me for like years to like go fuck and not tell him that I was
going to fuck. But I like I couldn't do it.
I could not do it. But I this this past mocha, I
finally was just like fuck it. Like Oh well.
And now if I went to like someone newsroom I would text
him and tell him like where I was in case some fuck shit goes
down. But otherwise like I just did
not tell him anything. I've literally told him nothing.
And then he would text me like 2O clock in the morning and be
like OK, I'm going to bed and I'd say OK, I love you and not
tell him where I was. And think I was getting in the
room to go to sleep and I walk in and the covers were standing
up because his Dick was hard. So I was like, well, I guess
we're not going to bed. You're walking in with the
cheeses, with the phone light like sex Gollum just in the
corner like correct. Correct.
That was exactly what I was doing.
Like I'm just I need a snack first because I need some like
carbs so I can have some energy, but then I'm I'm on it.
Yeah. No, I like that.
I like that. I think for our secret victims,
only done it once where you did like a little surprise on me.
Well, I was going out for the evening and before I went out,
you just kept going on. It'd be so nice.
It's like it was. So nice it.
Was so hot if you kind of if you went out and then you suddenly
messaged me to say that you were with a guy and I was like, OK,
noted. And you kept going on it like
you were dropping the biggest hit.
Like exception it was, but it wasn't cleverly done.
It was just hinting. It was like hint, hint, hint,
hint. So I went out I.
Whispered to you when you're asleep.
So I went out with a friend and I was like, right, I'm going to
do it. I'm going to call him out.
So I've been talking to a guy and I kind of messaged him and I
said, don't suppose you happen to be free at the moment, do
you? And turned out he was.
And so then I did do that. Ha ha, look where I am.
Yeah, that was really fucking. That was really good.
I like that a lot. That was good fun.
It was that it was a good night. I'm not, I'm not a I'm not a
hint dropper. I'm like, hey, I want you to do
this. I'm not, I don't, I don't do
hints like I'm not a good subliminal person.
I'm just like a caveman. Go fuck.
That later. Also too, like because you look
scary, it's really hard for me to like sneak someone over
because he wanted me to just like sneak someone over on my
lunch break and like fuck while he was at work and then just
tell him afterwards. And it took me a really long
time to do that because AI can't tell you that I'm you can't tell
my husband because if you don't know us, you're going to think
we're on fuck shit. So I don't want you to think I'm
on fuck shit. So finally I got his friend to
come over and fuck me on my lunch break.
And I told his friend afterwards.
I was like, oh hey, by the way, I didn't tell Mister Mocha.
And his face dropped and now we've been friends with him
forever. He knows we're on fuck shit
sometimes. And I was like no no, no, I'm
going to tell him. I just didn't tell him like at
this moment. And he was like, don't do that
to me. In the face like I'm about to
die. I'm like, it's OK, it's OK.
Like he's fine. He's fine.
I promise he's fine. This woman steal my death word.
I mean, but that is like the challenge for me, like not
because they're we do fuck with a lot of like really respectful
guys. So that's like kind of the
challenge. They're like, well, like should
I tell him? Should I not tell him?
But I'm also like I. Have to tell guys, dude, you
don't have to tell me that you're going to fuck my wife.
She's my wife, OK, I'm aware of the shit that my wife does.
I appreciate the respect, but you know she's responsible for
that. You know cuz you have like it's
just like dude, you're fucking up a wet dream here like just
fucking if he offers you some sex, go get the pussy and then
just just go back home. I don't need you to call and
report in like everything was good when I left the driveway
was thinking, dude, no, we're. Just like the one guy that every
time I would text him, he would text you and I was like what the
fuck is going on? Like I'm laying next to her in
bed, she text him, he text her back then text me that she's
texting me and I'm like I thank you for the respect but dude, if
I wanted to be the one sexting you motherfucker, I'd have sexed
you myself. This is between you and her.
You're making it weird right now, you know.
I really, I really need you to amp up your game because my
edible just kicked in. So what you, you wanted this.
You're the one that said you wanted me to be a little chill.
So instead of being chilly because it's fucking freezing,
I'm a little. It is cold.
It's cold here as well, and we're on the other side of the
world. I just looked out the window,
we've got a really heavy frost. Oh, nice, but.
It's not snow, sadly. Boo.
Did you? Say, sadly, it's not snow.
She said they just. Snow, we don't get it.
We don't get snow England's got. England's got quite bad snow in
some parts of the country, but we've had none, we've had zero.
We've. Been cheated?
Yeah, cheated out of Snow you. Called it, you called it not
getting snow cheated. That's that's we don't, we don't
want that. We don't want it.
She wants all of the things. She wants all of the things
she's. Very bad.
I like to play. I want to play in the snow.
You're very bad. Misses Mocha was sent me out in
the snow today. To get groceries.
She sent me out in the snow risking my life today.
This motherfucker, this guy's from New York, OK, He can drive.
Frostbitten. I mean, I could've.
It wasn't even that cold. This morning for.
Her and her snacks. You still didn't even get me any
snacks because I don't have peanut butter M&M's, Sir.
I got you soup. Oh, that that got you
interested? Peanut butter M&M's, is that why
I'm not going out in this? I'm saying.
You're fine and I think you really would have to go very far
ton together at this time I. Was going to, yeah, I was going
to say you wouldn't like American Chocolate's Not Your
bag, although that's not. Strictly speaking truth, we're
talking kind of confectionery. I've got some American chocolate
for you. Oh.
Yeah, that's the kind she likes. Yeah.
I was going to say, yeah, you do seem to have a thing put on for
American men. It seems to be a thing for you
to think of accent. I think I I it's the accent it
is. I was thinking the same thing
about you as the accent. Yeah, that's what it's hard to
say. Yeah, it's the accent.
So how often do you guys like do you have clubs there?
What's your what's your usual mode of getting out and playing
and having fun? Like lifestyle fun?
So we do have the UK is getting really good for clubs and
things. I think the club scene is is
kind of is taking off a lot. More, and we live in London, so
we've got access to some really great local clubs, some really
fantastic high class clubs in London itself.
Outside there's some more sort of fun, relaxed, like naughty
clubs. Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean like gluten and stuff like that.
If I'm honest, I tend to actually prefer the clubs more
for the social side of things because I actually prefer kind
of having more social connections with people.
So, yeah, but so we will go to clubs but often, but yeah, so we
tend to make connections and then kind of we'll go to like
hotels and stuff instead. Which is good because I've got a
hotel booked for you next month, so that'd be fun for.
You. There you go.
So you guys don't really pick, you don't play at the clubs,
you'll meet a guy or a couple or just like, so do you guys, do
you guys like play with couples or is that just a random thing
if you do that? No, we do still play with
couples like say we, we still go to some friends of ours host
fabulous kind of couples event which we'll go along with
including. The first sort of like hotel
takeovers here in the UK because hotel takeovers on a massive
thing. But our friends, if you follow
us on Twitter, you've seen all that do hotel takeovers.
Mainly it's club events, club takeovers and club theme nights
that we go to. But like you surprised me last
time we went to a club night here in the UK for Hot Wives
night. You did play and you played in
public as well, that that was a new one for you.
But as I said, I played in public because I couldn't see
people, so in my head they couldn't see me.
I'm. Telling you now they could see
you. I know this.
Now. I know.
Just now there, there was one moment where I did look up and I
did see that there was an audience.
Yeah, that was like it was. It was one of our first.
It was an interracial club night hosted in the UKA really nice
club and we've been through. We chatted like a couple of guys
and she gave me up the Super secret signal like which is
like, no, not this one. And then like we'd like not this
guy. And then we met another third
guy and it was like the big guy, Yep, this is the one.
So I went to get a drink. 3 minutes later came back and
they're kissing and they're always like we need to, we need
to go to a room. I was like, yeah, absolutely
couldn't find a room. So she LED us to a public room.
Well, no, I would. I'm going to call it a Nook.
A little nook in the public. Room nook.
It was like a corner, so as I said, I couldn't see people.
Yeah, it's not public because she couldn't see.
It's like if you cover your eyes.
I am no longer in public. I like that.
Basically, yeah. Well, like the 10 guys all all
jerking off in there. They could see you.
I'm like, oh, this is this is the thing that's happening now.
But again, it was super respectful and it was just it
was a one on encounter. They respectfully jacked off
around her. Yeah, and then like just at a
distance, they were like they were having a good time and
enjoying the show. I think you seem to enjoy your.
Part of it, anyway. I had a wonderful time.
You did. It's make complaints from me.
Well. There you go, I think.
I think Secret Vixen quite likes being the center of attention,
even if she won't talk about it too much.
And I think our recent experience at Splash where we
had loads of you guys talking to you all the time, showing you
interest and I think you really thrive.
I think this is just like a, a lifestyle thing when you're
getting all that positive attention all the time.
It's so wonderful for yourself esteem.
I'm not saying you have to go and play with everyone, but it's
wonderful and affirming to have people say, oh, do you know
what? As you said, you didn't feel
like you were sexy before, you know, motherboard, whatever
tough people say. Actually now I'm really into
you. I would love to have sex with
you. I'd love to play with you.
That's a lovely, affirming thing.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
I can't complain about that. I agree, I feel like I my self
esteem even though I feel like I have.
Mr. Mocha helps me with my self esteem a lot, but after Mocha I
have a different pep in my step from all the pain that's been
throwing it all. The premium ping that you.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker Fiction had some very, very high quality penis being
thrown at her there and she enjoys that.
And you come back with, like I said, a spring in your step
because, yeah, you've been made to feel as sexy as your husband
always tells you you are. I will tell her how great she
is. I'll tell her sex.
Having she. Yeah.
I mean, you are fabulous at kind of complimenting me and things,
but then in my head I'm like, well, you're biased.
You're my husband. You have to say that things
about me. But then it's reaffirming then
when other people are saying things that you tell me.
Mr. Mocha is really good at, he's like super touchy feely
with me because I need that because I am really weird if a
whole bunch of like random guys do that.
I like his touch. I mean, I'm fine.
Clearly we're fucking, so I'm fine with you touching me.
But like if someone asked me if they can give me an erotic
massage, I get immediately like I feel like I'm autistic or
something. Like no, I can't do that because
it would be too touchy. Like no I don't want to but but.
That's, that's it. That's because that's, there are
certain lines where maybe there's some things that are
more in the intimacy side. And like, if that's not the
interest you're looking for, if you're looking for the sex side
in a pure sort of carnal way, you're looking for that.
If you're looking for an intimacy, romantic love related
thing, that could be a different thing.
And see, I'll tell you this is this is the bullshit about
Missus Mocha. I'm going to let you guys know
the secret. OK, so, so Missus Mocha, if
somebody like at a like somebody at a party offers her a massage,
she's like, I don't want a massage, I want Dick.
But now if her husband offers her a massage, she accuses me of
not being not trying to give her a massage, but trying to give
her Dick. I feel like that's what she
really wanted. This guy has never completed a 5
minutes of a massage on me, but he used to be a massage
therapist. So then he started doing like
only fans and shit, and I'm watching him give these ladies
like 30 minutes of a massage and I'm like, motherfucker, like my
shoulder was really hurting. It wasn't me, it was the Dick.
The. Dick as well.
It was the Dick. It wasn't me.
So cover these. Things happen.
Yeah, I I slipped. It's OK, I can't.
I can't complain. This is also you.
Yeah, I know, but I like the same thing.
I like having sex with you so you know, but I'm like
massaging, but also if I'm no because.
Sometimes I just. Want a massage?
We'll be massaging. What does that mean?
Pushing your ass up into me and shout.
Yes, exactly. They're fine.
Your body's betraying you. Yes.
There you go. Yeah, it's like, actually I was
well as you fuck now. Yeah, the definition of a
massage for your wife. Or like at night, my wife will
get my wife will complain because I'll roll over and when
I'm asleep like I'll try to cuddle her and then we've.
Never had a successful cuddle. We've never had a successful
real live cuddle. It's always turned into he's
fucking me. False accusations.
Successful realized cuddle. I love this.
Yeah, I want now. Leticia, all I want is a
realized cuddle. Yes.
Yeah, I'm pretty. I feel like I've given you
cuddles. You literally the only time.
OK, let's just mark this on the books, OK, daddy, because.
I'm here. Listen, the only time you've
given me a successful cuddle is after my surgery.
I was there for you that I couldn't.
You could not actually fuck me because my pussy was broken.
But I cuddled you. No, then you would complain
about not being able to put your leg on me because I would be
like oh you can't put your leg on me because you get trying to
hit my stitches with your heavy ass thigh.
So so his. One leg is as big as both of my
legs put together. So she does this thing like she,
I'm, I'm very warm. She's.
Not my wife is not in the way to this about Mr. Mocha's thighs.
Stop it. Sorry, they're very large
thighs. Let me just let me throw that
out there. You can see them.
I'll expose them next time you see him.
I'll make him expose them for you.
I. Feel like a piece of meat?
Right. They're very big legs.
Good. He does not skip leg day ever.
OK, so go ahead daddy. Can't do that.
Well no, I was just just saying how you know, just talking about
you know your how I allegedly don't cuddle with you this
morning. I'm pretty sure I tried to
cuddle before you start running. I always have to.
You did not cuddle me. I tried.
I could tell you that I was having a nervous breakdown and
you'd still be trying to fuck me.
I'm trying to calm you down. Oh my gosh, she's losing it.
Let me whip my Dick out like. That's always the answer.
No. So what, Ashley?
What makes her laugh when she's in the shitty mood?
If I whip my Dick out and I start doing the helicopter or
like, you know, swinging back and forth and let it like slap,
like hip to hip. She loves that shit.
Side note, Mr. Mr. Mocha used to be a stripper back in the day.
We're just going to let your business out there.
So he's very good. Man, her face is just like
dropping on the jaws on the floor.
Stop. This shit, do you realize
there's some dudes on here who I know who's going to crack jokes?
And then there's, look, Mary's up there.
She's going to be questioning me about my stripper days now.
It was in his 20s. But let me just let me, let me,
let me, let me go further into that.
Mister Mocha cannot dance. So he was just probably pretty
swinging his Dick around. He's still pretty and he still
swings his Dick around, but he Contrary to popular belief, not
all black men have rhythm and can dance.
He can sing, but he cannot dance.
Like he, I'm the dancer. And if he's dancing on me, like,
yeah, like, moves back and forth and I'm like, OK, Daddy, thank
you so much for dancing with me. It's like anxiety.
She's like, you going to dance with me?
Like fuck, are you serious? Like she'll give me the, you
know, she'll hit me with the like, I need this, like I need
you to dance with me in public thing.
And I'm like son of a bitch. And I go out there and I do it
and I count songs. I'm like, all right, I'm going
to at least give her three songs, you know, because that's,
that's the right thing. Mary said she has no questions.
Will there be demands? Will there be demands, Mary?
So yeah, so yes, he used to be a stripper and he he is very
pretty. I say that to him all the time.
So I think I build up his self esteem too.
But his response to me Secret Stag is the same as what Secret
Vixen gives you, which is like, oh, we are married to me.
So you're just being sweet. And I'm like, no, I really
fucking you have. To.
Say that No, I don't have to say that because she.
Said that, it's like, no, you really are a good looking woman
and you're a beautiful woman Mrs. Roker, you know, you are
both beautiful greens and you deserve to have lovely
experiences with lovely guys. Oh, she definitely has a lot of
experience with guys. Yeah, but also, you know, let me
give you a massage with, you know, and we'll see how it goes.
I mean the only. Two minutes of a massage.
That's actually a perfect number for you because I would get I
would get weird as soon as you started, so they give me enough
time to not get weird. If your Dick's touching her leg
and it's hard, you're good, you know, there's got to be an erect
penis on her. Yeah, that's true.
Oh, so question, last question. Well, I might find some more,
but so have you done a gangbang yet?
Do you want to do a gangbang? I'm not getting involved in.
This at all. So I have not yet partaken in a
gang bang and having now been to obviously the event, I think I
my interest has been piqued. I think I would now.
I would be more inclined to give it a go.
I love I love the slow truth coming out because she was
always like the one guy, one guy, and then she had one guy,
right And I was with me. It's like, well, that was two
guys that didn't count because you were there.
That wasn't that wasn't the same.
And then and then you've like you've been with like multiple
guys in an orgy situation in. An orgy situation.
I've played with multiple guys. But that wasn't penetration.
It was like blow jobs and stuff, wasn't it?
Yeah. So I I think you would really
like a gang bang personally. So, secret vixen.
Because you enjoy the attention, do you like?
I think you'd like all the hands on you.
I think you'd like all the attention being on you.
I think you'd like all the Dicks on you.
If if you want next time we see each other I can help you out
and I can be your partner. So what I my first gang bang I
had I did not have a partner but.
They first gang bang wasn't in the hotel when I took to the
hotel when blindfolded you. No, that was I was just sucking
Dicks. I wasn't a gangbang.
Ohh, excuse me? That's not a.
Gangbang 7 Dicks in the room. I'm sorry, excuse me fucking.
Dicks doesn't count. No it doesn't.
I mean, it is if you're getting fucked while you're sucking the
Dicks or playing with the Dicks. Like, yeah, but if you would
like for me to be comfortable, I had to have Mr. Mocha in the
room. And if I do gangbangs now and
he's not in the room, I just make sure there's like, a friend
there because do I want the attention on me?
Yes. But what if I, this is me
overthinking my fucking life. But what if I have to go pee?
I can't just leave all 7 Dicks standing there jacking off while
I have to go pee. So if I have a stand in, we're
all like doing the same thing and it's OK.
I'm like OK I'll be right back. I go pee, clean up, come back
and then it's. Very sensible, yes.
Hang on, how? Many guys.
Are we talking? We're talking, we're talking
Mrs. Moker, Secret Bixon and how many guys.
We could start off with like 5 or 6.
I mean, I think this should be at least four a piece, you know,
just to. Make no no no no No 5 or 6. 5-6
a piece, so that's three a piece I was about.
Six. It would be 3 a piece.
Three a piece 3. A piece.
No, because I said there's the break, it's the break.
So if we have this is. Like nodding along, like
analyzing it. Yes, I could do that.
I. Do that.
Is she counting on her fingers right now?
Like doing the massive 1. But the problem with the
gangbang also is that you it has to be a group of guys that are
all comfortable with each other because there are some guys
that. So my very first gangbang
actually was at Trapeze and Mr. Mocha was there.
So like Friday nights here is like single guy nights.
So he was going through watching me watch all these guys.
So all of a sudden I'm in a room and there's six or seven guys in
there, which I'm ecstatic about, but I think I only really got 2
hard Dicks the the whole time because nobody could really
perform. But it was exciting to me
because I was sucking Dicks and was.
That the one with. That was that trapeze.
No, no, no, no, no. That was after my hysterectomy.
Oh yeah, you were a professional by then.
Yeah, no, this was the very first one she.
Was juggling balls like a circus performer by that time.
But that was only five guys. That was only five guys.
So that was. The burger.
Guys, I love it, but secret victims are not.
So if you're the expert Miss Smoker, you're going to have to
take her by the hand and. Leave me.
I I am the gangbang queen, but like I.
Said whoa, whoa, don't calm down.
Am I not? Calm down, when was the last
time you had yourself a good gangbang?
Honey, I think you're. I think you're out of.
Practice our last party. I think that was that was like.
September. That was September.
Close enough you're out of practice.
It was September. I'm inviting some guys over.
Here Right? No.
I. Need a friend first I need a
friend I told you I have to phone a friend for that.
It makes it easier because I. Don't she always wants like a
team member when she does this? It like it's the energy.
I'm not into women but if I have a friend for support like I said
if I need to get up and take a break that friend is still
having a good time. Like, I'm not leaving them
alone. Like I feel bad, you know, just
like not just like leaving the room when there's guys just
standing around jacking their Dicks.
So it's easier to do it with one or two other women.
So I am considerate, serious. Then so, so vixen you.
As I said, this has always been sort of like she knows I'm into
it big time. I'd love her to do something
like this because I I'm all about the energy being on her.
You're nodding along to this conversation.
What are you thinking? I'm thinking of like getting on
the laptop and like looking at flights.
If you come to if you come to our house, it will be even
better because I always feel like even if I do gang bangs at
mocha, it's usually in our room because I don't I like need to
be safe. I'm not saying I'm unsafe at
mocha in any way, shape or form, but it's controlled for me.
I can say no or yes to whoever comes in my room.
If you're just in like the take 5 room, you can't just it's
harder to navigate because there's so many people that come
in there. So that from me again, like I
overthink the fuck out of it and I'm like, Oh no, I can't do
this, but I should not be like that.
But I am. But yeah, if you come to our
house, we got the whole play basement.
It just. Here, she's a fucking animal.
And I got all my boy toys that will be more than happy to come
over and drop off some Dick for two women.
Drop off some Dick. Yeah.
It was like, it was like an Uber.
That's what Uber Black is for. What'd you say?
Mr. Boker, do you get involved in the gang bangs?
No. So usually what happens?
Is this OK? Your wife comes to visit for the
sake of a gangbang, OK, She gets here.
You guys get here on this day. I have my way with her the day
before the gangbang, all right, And then I just make sure
everything is going well during the gang bang now, every once in
a while, depending upon how I'm feeling, you know?
How much liquor he's had. How much alcohol I've had, you
know, you know, I might, I might jump in there and, you know, do
a cameo, you know, jump in there, you know, But usually,
usually I just kind of direct traffic, you know, make sure
everything is good. Sit back and purve on the curve
on the old lady and and give her to look like you're going to get
it later. This, this wicked smile you had
in your face, Bixon, when he said I just had my way with her.
Like you are terrible. You're a terrible one.
And she giggles. I mean, here's the thing, It's
OK. Look, I said if you come in to
town, I'll make sure I always make sure my friends have a good
time. And what like all of my regulars
are really good about is if I say, hey, I have a friend here
and they're like, fuck yeah, I'm on the way.
Like I most guys don't even ask me for pictures anymore.
They just OK, yeah. What time do I need to be there?
Yeah, even if they find out she's a silly English lady.
You might have more, you might have more than you were planning
on. Correct that.
So we learned that actually the hard way because like with our
like house parties and stuff like that, we were always like
everybody else who were like, oh, only 50% of the RSVPS will
show up for one of the BBC parties.
I know I fucked 18 guys in the night and I didn't even feel
like I fucked 18 of the guys. Like it was just such a what's
like crazy is it was just like flowing so well.
Like you just, you didn't even know, like you're in the room
with, you know, three guys and you're like, OK, yeah, that's
good. And the guys are so good too
about just being like, OK, like, let's go.
I'm going to clean off and go to some like somebody else, which
is great. And then you go into another
room and you got your friend and five other guys and you're like,
OK, yeah, let's go into this room.
And you go into the next room and there's three or four guys
in there. Or you end up, well, I think I'm
just going to sit here on the sofa and take a break.
And then you're end up I was sucking a Dick and getting
fucked on sofa so I was like. This is.
What? OK.
And then she banned, so she so the one party like she banned
every. She's like, there's no fucking
in the kitchen. I don't want anybody fucking in
my kitchen. So she gave me this long speech
about nobody fucking in her kitchen.
OK, I come out of the fucking bedroom and guess who's getting
fucked by not one, but two dudes in the God damn kitchen?
No, it was 3. Oh, I'm sorry, honey.
Three, yes. And I'm sitting there staring
like I'm I what happened? And so she gave me the smile and
like, well, it happened here. So now like literally every
party, somebody fucks in the kitchen.
So, you know, when you come to our house, I'm letting you know
the counters. They have DNA on them.
OK, we just don't. We clean them, but hey, I'm just
saying. Like for we do have a good
bigger size house and for some. Reason.
Yeah, and for some reason people always bottleneck into our
kitchen. It's it's insane.
And I'm just like, why are we here?
There's literally 2000 other square feet to fuck in like.
Why are we in the kitchen? There's 3000 other squares and
we everyone crams into that little area and the problem is
Missus Mocha stays in that area. So it's really her fault.
And out 50 times that I'd like Honey, honey get take everybody
out of the kitchen, like all the liquors downstairs and the huge
open space. And she like, OK And then 10
minutes later I'm like, honey, you know, like 10 minutes ago I
ask you take people out. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She'll walk 3 feet toward the door and then stop.
And so finally I'm like, you know something, fuck it, fuck
it. I'm just, I'm just going to go
about my own devices and. Yeah, but we do have some good
videos from the kitchen. There you go.
Yeah, but if like back to the real subject that if you want a
gangbang, you just have to give us a few weeks.
Try not to do a holiday because all of our friends either have
like kids or something. So a few weeks and we can gather
the masses. Yeah, she'll be on looking for
flights tonight. It's.
Been secret fix and sets up a very fun to be paid.
Gofund be. Paid.
Vixen's first BBC gang bang. It can't be.
Well, I mean, you guys should just come to MOCA Atlanta.
Well, which we would love to go to Moca again.
We need to figure out how because obviously we we have our
job commitments and our childhood, our children and
stuff. We just want to go over there.
What we need is friends to come over to the UK and then have
some fun in the UK. It's really nice out there.
It's like really warm outside, probably so warm.
It's so nice. You'll love the weather.
Nice, now remember. I feel like you're trying to
trick us. But I can't get all my hosts to
come to UK. We have a few friends I.
Can change the GoFundMe page. I mean.
BBC Import. We could, we could.
I'm sure you know what though, like not to mention her name but
sub girl and Dom boy were just recently in UK and they are
actually lifestyle too. So we could probably find some
people there and we actually met somebody else from UK.
Well his wife Slash is she girlfriend Fiance lives in UK so
but you. Don't want to know other people?
You're right. You're.
Right. I know who you're talking about.
I know you're talking about. I think his wife, his girlfriend
lives in the UK, I think. I think they'll think of the
same person. Yeah, there are some freaky
people here. We've got some people.
There's some freaky people here. Well, we appreciate freaky
people, always. Well, I realized, OK, so now you
have three options. So no pressure though.
Secret Vixen. OK, no pressure at all.
You can come here, come to Mocha, or we'll try to come
there. But if we try to come there,
it'll probably be like the summer, sadly.
Yeah, hang on, do all three of these options end with Secret
Vixen having a gang bang? Yes, well, you can't control the
gang bang in the UK. We can figure it out, take all
three options. Maybe we can talk to our friend
that's in the UK and she can have a gang bang without me in
the UK. Well, you're talking.
But now that that will feel like a betrayal.
True truth Facts. You're right, you're right,
you're right. OK, I can't do that.
But I could but what it is, I could call you whilst it's
happening. I could just explain what's
happening to you. Miss Mocha.
That's a good. That's good.
Video What's that you'd. Like that.
I knew you'd like that. Yeah.
Mr. Mocha's on board.
Yeah, I'm, I'm definitely there for that.
I'm there for all of that. I am happy to be an observer,
you know, and I'll critique what's happening.
And you know, it would be like game footage for when it's my
turn. You you jump in probably.
It depends. It all depends.
I mean like I, I'm there's sometimes I, I come down, I feel
good and then sometimes I'm like, let me stand back and
watch do. You know what I can tell you now
just from chatting to you 2 we wouldn't need a gangbang to have
a good night. I know the forest going to sit
down, have a few laughs and shoot some shit and just talk.
You are good people and and you just get good vibes.
I just know we'd have a good night even without a gangbang.
I mean you said just talk, so is everything else off the table?
Just checking. I just want to make sure I can
do something else besides talk. I just need to know is there
going to be snacks provided? There'll be snacks for the
gangbang, yes. Yes, yes, I'm.
A good snack guy I can get the snacks for the.
Gangbang. All I need is be good again.
Peanut butter M&M's. That's all I need.
Noted. Exactly.
OK, Well, I don't have any more questions, but we do need to
plan outside of this. What if we, you know, if we
really want to do something because, I mean, I think we can
make it work, Mary says. I love it here.
Gangbang and freaky people with chocolate.
Yes, American chocolate. Mary.
Mary, you're invited. Hang.
On Now, are we talking chocolate or are we talking chocolate now?
Because yes, British chocolate is superior to that.
Hershey, confectionery wise, is the superior chocolate.
I'm going to put it out there. You will not get a fight, you
will not get a fight from that. For that that that now Swedish
chocolate is better, but you know.
Yeah, fine. I'll bring.
Times, I'm sure European chocolate is good is good
American chocolate. I'm not here for it, but my wife
does enjoy all kinds of American chocolate, apparently.
So we're we're working on we're we're going to figure out this
gang bang. I think, I think Mary just get
volunteered. She said.
Freaky people, I just read it. Yes, she no, I'm just saying
she's volunteering to help you guys, so that means we're going
to have to bring in more Dicks. Oh, listen, listen.
I really do. Not 23 of you.
Feel like it'll be a like hard to find Dicks like that's not.
It's never hard to do. It's usually harder to find the
women that will jump into the party.
Yeah, 'cause you know, they'll talk, ladies will talk trash
about how bold they're going to be, then they'll show up and
they're. Like or they'll freak out
because they think people are going to judge them 'cause they
they like fucked 8 guys in a night or whatever.
But like I I'm going to wear that with a badge.
If I could get a tattoo for every Dick that I fucked, like
my body would be covered. It'd be like a full body so.
It'd be cute. Maybe I should start getting a
teardrop for everyone. Her body would look like a
fucking rainstorm. Get it.
Get it to drop. Not for everyone that I killed,
but everyone that I fucked. It would be.
It would be a tsunami. Yeah.
My. God.
I just want you to know I judge my wife for this behavior.
That's okay, Mr. Mocha is just a little more chill than I am when
it comes to like, he's like more of like the passionate side.
Like he likes one-on-one, like passionate stuff.
I'm more of like, let's go swim in a fucking sea of Dicks.
It just makes it less pressurey. There's less pressure if
there's. Less pressure when there's six
dudes as opposed to just one that I I see how.
No, because then like if it if it's if it's just the one guy,
like I like Secret Vixen was saying it like it's it's kind of
awkward in the beginning, like if you don't know what to say or
what you're talking about, because there are some guys that
look like chilled chiseled like gods.
And then when you get in the room, like you don't really have
anything in common with them, but you still want to have sex
with them. But if there's four chiseled
gods, you don't have to talk. You just know what to do.
Everybody knows that we're there.
Just pull your Dicks out and I'll start sucking all of them
at the same time. You had her chiseled gods,
basically, of course. Yes.
And Mrs. Mocha was like, I'll just start sucking it.
And she would too. She, she's that kind of person.
I literally at the Houston Mocha I fluffed for my friend.
You are such a good friend. I want I'm going.
To say it again, not all heroes wear Cape.
Yes, yes. Like I'll keep all the Dicks up
if you're fucking them. Like if I need a break, that's
like my break. It's like I'll suck, OK, come
over here and suck da, da, da. And then you go, OK, go back to
her. You're good.
Now go. So I'm looking forward to.
Seeing her. She's got it all worked out.
I do. I've done this a few times,
yeah. Well, we are looking forward to
not only coming up with the strategy to, to see you guys in
person, but hopefully having you guys on the podcast again.
I know it's a little after 2:00 AM for you guys.
So we will, you know, let you wrap it up, I thought.
Yeah, I thought she was going to fall asleep.
Then you start talking about gang bangs and it's.
Amazing that that will wake someone up.
Well, maybe we can have it after podcast after your first gang
bang. Oh my.
God posting I've seen. Some things.
Listen, listen, Secret Stag you and I will just do a podcast
while they're both getting worked over in the background.
I'm. Here for that.
That's a little. I'm here for that 100%.
And you will hear the filth that comes out of my wife's mouth
during sex. Sometimes I'm like, I can't even
look at you. But keep going.
Oh my dear. More, more, more.
And Secret Vixen might say something.
Might say a rude word. He might say a rude word.
Oh, A Oh yeah, A. A.
Thank you say a rude word for us now.
I'm not performing monkey. Maybe one?
Rude word. What do you want me to say?
What rude word would Mr. Mocha like you to say?
Oh gosh. Mr. Mocha, what do you want her
to say? Is she going to say in her in
her English completely non filthy voice?
No, let me think here, now. Now listen, we were putting her
on the spot. Fuck this dirty little slut
pussy. Oh yeah, I wouldn't.
Not So what? Say again.
She's got to write it down. Let me write this.
Dirty little slutty pussy. Oh.
For goodness sake, fuck this dirty little slutty pussy.
That was there was not enough emotion in that.
OK, that was on the spot. I don't remember what I had to
say we're. Feeling.
Oh gosh. This is a sound bite.
Secret stag. You might need to put a finger
in her. OK, you might need to rub on
her. It's OK.
You know what? Don't put any pressure on Secret
Vixen, OK? It's hard to do it when you
don't have a Dick in you. I'm just accustomed to saying
really fucked up shit. You want me to put a Dick in
you? No, like, literally I, I'm good
with like saying fucked up shit. So you have to practice those so
you'd stand in the mirror. And those are like affirmations
for myself, like, oh, you're such a dirty little slut.
Take that pussy motherfucker. No, I don't say the motherfucker
part, but I do have to like amp my I literally like turn on
really like Horry music that like while I'm getting ready, I
like mocha or wherever else so that I can like get my brain
going on what? Yes, she does play the most
sexually explicit music. I'm like, I, I, I remember in
the beginning, I, I've walked in and I would walk in like, what
the fuck are you listening to? And where do you find this kind
of music at? And you know, she'll laugh
because you know, I didn't know that she was like, I don't, I
don't even understand how she gets the playlist she gets
because all of her music before it's time to play is just all
nasty. Let's just put it this way.
Mr. Mocha has like a very big genre of music and Missus
Mocha's music is ratchet stuff. Like I like like ratchet music.
She likes, she likes hardcore hip hop, like yeah.
And, and she likes like dirty Southern hip hop music like, and
rap music. And I'm, I'm from the North, so
I still like old school hip hop from up north.
And my wife listened to stuff that I'm pretty sure our kids
probably listen to. And I'm like.
Yeah, she knows all the songs and all the words and all the
but. I mean, like the whole point of
that story before you keep knocking me about my music, OK,
don't care, OK, Because it's I don't listen to that with the
like, with people around. That's my own time, OK, We
listen and we don't judge, Mr. Mocha.
So Long story short, I like listen to something dirty before
I go into doing that because it motivates me music.
So like whatever motivates you to get like into horror mode, do
that. But that always does it for me.
We put this playlist on whenever she's fucking splash and I swear
she's become like a fucking sleeper agent now.
As soon as the music kick, as soon as the music kicks in, I'm
like, oh, she's ready to go now. I like that in the.
Car the other day when we were with the kids and she's like
looking at me like, oh shit, I'm getting triggered, Yeah.
I like this. Yeah, we're going to have fun.
Yeah, we are. We are.
OK, well, we're going to let you guys go to bed because I know
that it's really late and we really appreciate you guys
jumping on and talking to us and telling us your story.
And we hope that we can have you guys back on again.
It's been an absolute pleasure to be here.
Good. Thank you.
Well, until the next time, because we definitely are going
to have a next time. Thank you for hanging out with
Mrs. Monk and I, and we will see you guys on the next episode of
Old Faces. I'm trying to.
Give. It to you Bring it over to this
me so I can see you it's.