1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,800 Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 I'm your host, Mr. Mocha. Missus Mocha decides she want to 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,240 hang out with us, but that's fine because we are at Splash 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,720 Mocha. What year is this? 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,800 We're still 2024. We're almost 2025. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 This is the last Splash Mocha of the year. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,640 December. What's today's date? 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,800 20 December 30th. That's Monday the 30th. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,560 And joining me on the cutting board is a group of gentlemen we 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,560 got from the left. Mr. Minks. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,240 Everybody know Chris Minks. I don't know what your alias is, 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Sir. OK, Andre. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,200 I'm just making sure. Andre, we got Mister East Coast 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Craig. To my right, we got Dimitri VC. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Everybody know him. And to the far right, you have 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,120 an alien brother. We got candy liquor. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,520 I like it. I like it. 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:07,120 So on this podcast, Dimitri, myself, a lot of the other guys, 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Mr. Minx is always aware of what's happening. 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,920 We want to talk about community. Community is a big word, 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,600 especially for the guys who attend Splash Mocha. 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,560 All things that community encompasses. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,000 How is it beneficial? A community of guys who are able 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:38,680 to support, educate and what's the word I'm looking for and 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,400 inspire one another is beneficial to everyone. 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Whether it's the couples they play with, the single women they 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,440 play with, or the interactions that they have within the 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,040 lifestyle. I always like to have a variety 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:58,240 of men. Mr. Minx is a husband who comes 30 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 to splash smoke. Everybody knows the Minxes. 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,800 He's he's kind of a hybrid. He he's able to do what what 32 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:13,960 needs to be done at the time. We have Dre, who's a single 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,120 brother in the lifestyle Mister East Coast. 34 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:24,560 We all know this freak, Dimitri. And then candy liquor is one the 35 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,680 brothers who's been coming to Moca now for you've been coming 36 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,640 since what, 21, three years, three years, 34? 37 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,440 Yeah, three years, three years. Now I'm going to start from the 38 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:43,000 left of the table, Mr. Minks, and start asking. 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,960 So what is what is the benefit of the guys within this 40 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,440 particular environment having a community? 41 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,440 What does community do? Community good topic to start 42 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,600 with today because this is Angel and ours, 10th mocha since 43 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,160 20/22. She came to the first one and 44 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Atlanta and it was like, Oh my God, this is incredible. 45 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,720 I want to go to the next one. They're sold out, honey, I don't 46 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,480 care. And we went to the next one on 47 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,760 our own hotel and day passes driving in each day to attend 48 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,960 the event. So right off the bat, what 49 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,040 hooked us and hooked her was the community. 50 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,080 But me as the husband stag, how do I fit? 51 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,240 What's it going to be for me? Is it even going to be a fun 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,760 weekend or should I just send her on her own? 53 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Those are all the initial questions. 54 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Right away. The the guys reached out the 55 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,560 guys. I mean, I felt like a celebrity 56 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 by come Saturday night's party, the black and White Party, 57 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,320 right? I'm like, well, here was my 58 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,960 joke. I'm going to be a ghost 59 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 literally at this event, right? Nobody's going to care what I 60 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,640 look like, but I'm going to dress up. 61 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,920 And I went and bought the fancy suit, you know, coat that I 62 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,920 wanted and white pants. And I got some black and white, 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,640 you know, kicks, tuxedo style shoes and came running down and 64 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 I was putting things on and the wife's like, leave the shirt 65 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,600 off. So I did a Sport coat. 66 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Fancy white Sport coat, No shirt you. 67 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Had a bow tie on dude. And I had a bow tie, right? 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,440 So I'm like, nobody's even going to notice me. 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,760 And as soon as I hit the hallway, guys were like, man, 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,200 you look good. Like where'd you get those 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,720 shoes? I mean, I was we, we got slowed 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,959 down going to things, not because of her, but because guys 73 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,360 are stopping and talking to me. I it was, I had felt like all of 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,280 a sudden I'm with Kinsman Brotherhood was welcomed. 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Didn't care what my role was, how we played in the lifestyle 76 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,920 or anything like that. They're just like, this is a 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,880 cool dude. And ever since then that has 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,000 continued to this one. We haven't been this is only our 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,920 second mocha this year. We haven't seen a lot of our 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,720 friends forever. We always talk about this as a 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 family as much as it is a tight community. 82 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,000 And we walked in, it took us 1/2 an hour on an off night, wasn't 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,040 even the event starting yet, just to make it through the 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,920 lobby to get to our room because all the family, all the friends, 85 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,800 all the brothers, everybody just welcoming you back. 86 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Where have you been? We have missed you. 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,600 I don't get that kind of reception when I show up at my 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,480 family's house. And I haven't seen my mother in 89 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,520 five years, right? So it's really about that 90 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,280 community thing. And then I sent Angel down on 91 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:13,440 the first day yesterday walking around and she text me said you 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,680 have to hurry up and come down here. 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Everybody wants to see you. They asking we want to hang out 94 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,520 with Chris Minx. Where is he? 95 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,240 You got to get down here. So that's that, that extra 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,800 special that comes from gathering with these guys like 97 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,920 minds, shared open minds without that judgment, without all that 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,320 other stuff that society hangs on us nowadays and just accepts 99 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,080 that we are people who have like to have a lot of fun. 100 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,920 And that's what that that brotherhood of that collection 101 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,920 means to us all. Right. 102 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,800 I mean that that's Mr. Minx. I wanted to keep it going, give 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,400 it to Andre because you have his perspective of community. 104 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,840 But then now where's the other benefits? 105 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,520 What would you say the benefits to having a strong community is, 106 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Andre? So, you know, the benefits 107 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,480 really come down to the fact that you have people that you 108 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 really feel like you can reach out to and talk to without the 109 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:17,880 normal pressures of life of just trying to find a friend in real 110 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,480 life that we all live. You're you're going to the 111 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,680 grocery store. You might see somebody like, how 112 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,320 weird would I be if I just walk up to that person, say, hi, my 113 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,960 name is Andre. I'd like to be your friend. 114 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:32,080 You would be mortified by that just by doing that. 115 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,800 And here we have this ability to be able to say, Hey, I want to 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,320 get to know you. I want to know where you're 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,760 from. I, you know, whenever I'm in 118 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,280 that town, I'd like to get to know you and be able to travel 119 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:48,520 there or you're going somewhere, I'd like to be able to go there 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,320 with you. So I have people that I know 121 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,200 that are at that location and it's just not me going in. 122 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,400 I think the only way that normal, everyday vanilla people 123 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,720 can really have the closest feeling to this if they never 124 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,040 want to enter into lifestyle is going on a cruise. 125 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,320 A cruise is the only place I've ever seen where people will find 126 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,680 a lifetime best friend. And we get to do that with not 127 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,720 just one other person. That's normally what ends up 128 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,040 being when I go to a cruise, I find this one other family and 129 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,640 then we're best friends for that whole time and we message 130 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,200 afterwards. But these lifestyle events here, 131 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,520 it's splash has been like, it's that, but it's for 50 families 132 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,120 or 50 different people. So it really, truly sounds 133 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,280 unbelievable. It's one of those things you 134 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,280 just have to experience to really take it all in, to see 135 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,080 the experience of how amazing these events end up being, how 136 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,320 the true friendships are. People have to understand sex 137 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,520 only lasts so long. Even the people who think that 138 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,760 they can go hours, you will spend more hours talking to 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,920 people than you will playing with them. 140 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Because we eliminate the desire of having to lie about the two 141 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 major things that people lie about, which is sex and money. 142 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,520 I none of the most of us, you know, there's, there's, there's, 143 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,360 we don't have to talk about money because that's has nothing 144 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,560 to do with why we're here. So no one really talks about 145 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,400 that. And then we all know that we 146 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,960 came here to enjoy different parts and different enjoyment 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,800 parts of sex. And we can have the open 148 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,600 communication by saying, Hey, I'm interested in this, You're 149 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,760 interested in this perfect. You know, ours don't match, but 150 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,120 I know someone who matches with what you want. 151 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Let me put you on with this person. 152 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,600 And I still really like to eat with you and still really like 153 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,159 to get to know you. So it becomes this thing where 154 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:40,400 you've eliminated the two barriers that really hold people 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,360 back from having open communication past the idea of 156 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,240 leaving high school. So that's, that's the thing of 157 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,400 lifestyle that I've just truly seen that I enjoy. 158 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,840 That is that's, that's a conversation I've had over and 159 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,560 over. When it comes to the lifestyle 160 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:00,560 and community, it's there's nothing like it. 161 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:08,280 There's absolutely nothing like it where I can be with this 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,760 group of people who I can be so honest with. 163 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,200 The level of honesty is unreal. You know, I, I had a debate with 164 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,480 somebody recently and they were saying that, you know, someone 165 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,200 within a lifestyle has an unnatural attachment to the 166 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,520 lifestyle. From my standpoint, having an 167 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,200 unnatural attachment to the lifestyle is not possible. 168 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,240 It doesn't even make sense. If if I have met a group of 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,720 people that I can talk to about everything, sex, religion, my 170 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 kids, everything. Like, think about it, you have 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,680 people you've known your whole life and you have to lie to 172 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:48,800 them. You can't say, hey, what you do 173 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,120 this weekend. Yeah, my wife got fucked by 27 174 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,360 guys. Oh, yeah. 175 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,720 By the way, we're going to the kids graduation next week. 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,080 You can't do that. So now all of a sudden I've met 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,320 somebody for the first time for 5 minutes, and I already know 178 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,680 that we're going to be great friends. 179 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Are, you know, every time I see them, they're going to smile. 180 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,080 I know I can be more honest with everybody here then I can be 181 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,560 with 99% of the people I know. You can never tell me that I 182 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:22,400 have an unnatural attachment to this where I can come here and 183 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,080 be honest all weekend and then I have to go back out into regular 184 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,200 life. And so what'd you do in in 185 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Florida? Oh, well, I went to see the 186 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:38,320 mother-in-law. I'm lying the yeah, yeah. 187 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,400 I mean, I wouldn't see her, but then that was and and there are 188 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 people who literally will go visit somebody or go do a thing 189 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,680 and then yeah, yeah, go do a thing to hide that. 190 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,320 They come to say that, yeah, we did it. 191 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,000 We've got these receipts. Mostly did. 192 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,360 It's a solid this year though by hosting a wedding. 193 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,000 So now we're just told. We're at a wedding. 194 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,520 We're at a friends wedding. There you go, that's what we're. 195 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:59,360 Doing. OK, cool. 196 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,600 So thank you, Mocha. Yeah, exactly. 197 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,240 For putting on that event, that's a. 198 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,520 That was a built in excuse. That so, so the, the concept of 199 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,280 the community that we experience, the way we can talk, 200 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,040 I can talk to him about extremely personal stuff. 201 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,880 We have people every day walk up to us and say, man, you know, I 202 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,360 had the situation with my wife or hey, I had the situation with 203 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,720 my husband. And we will literally sit down 204 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,800 and have the most open, candid conversation. 205 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,960 You know, I have I, I can say it out loud. 206 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,240 I've went to D I've gone to Chris. 207 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Like, man, bro, my Dick just is not working today. 208 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,120 Like, I don't know who can do that. 209 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:40,600 Like your vanilla buddies, if you like. 210 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Yeah, bro, I couldn't get my Dick hard at this party, you 211 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,680 know, Yeah, they gonna laugh at you. 212 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,120 So the level of communication that we experience within our 213 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:58,320 community means that this is the most natural level of 214 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,400 communicating because we teach people to lie. 215 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,640 We teach our spouses to lie. We teach our friends to lie to 216 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,560 us. You know, when I tell you 217 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:13,440 something honest and you judge me, memo to me, I like hanging 218 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,000 around this person so I can't tell them the truth. 219 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,320 You know, I remember telling my wife that years ago I said 220 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,240 something about an outfit. She got upset that I was honest 221 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,200 and I asked her, do you want me to lie to you? 222 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Yes. If I start lying to you, do I 223 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,400 get to determine whenever I lie to you? 224 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Is it up to me? Because if I let the neighbors 225 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,960 suck my Dick and lie about it, it's only not to hurt your 226 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,160 feelings, not mine. So do we want to set the 227 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,000 precedent? No. 228 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,280 OK. That's how we actually condition 229 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,600 people around us to lie. So we are in an environment we 230 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,360 can be completely honest. 100% open. 231 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,080 Yeah, like this is the most natural situation. 232 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,880 So when someone goes, someone has an unnatural attachment to 233 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,240 the lifestyle. What? 234 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Even when I can't have sex? Even when I'm sick? 235 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,200 My wife was sick after her situation. 236 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,320 The minxer came to the house. Dmitri call all the time, all 237 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,320 these people who checked on my wife, she couldn't play, she 238 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,400 couldn't do anything. We still have people calling the 239 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,560 house all the time checking on it, you know, So it was never 240 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,360 isn't. Don't get me wrong, she's 241 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,960 probably out there right now juggling balls, but he's not 242 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,240 just about the ball juggling, you know, so so when I think of 243 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,800 community, that's what I think about Mister East Coast, because 244 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,800 you travel hito all over the place. 245 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,280 A lot of people do talk to you and come to you for advice and 246 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,200 for counsel. What does this community, 247 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,440 where's the benefit in this community and when it comes to 248 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,800 people being able to talk to you? 249 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,600 I'll say this as as far as the community, man, there is, and 250 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,200 I'm not sure how many people feel like this. 251 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:06,960 I know you kind of probably feel like this, but this community is 252 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:13,800 special. If I get in a jam, it's more 253 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,560 than likely that I'll reach out to somebody in this community. 254 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Then I would reach out to friends and especially family. 255 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,480 And it's not that I don't love my family or anything like that. 256 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,080 You know, I love my family. Love, love friends, coworkers, 257 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,600 well, some of them coworkers, but some of them came. 258 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:38,000 I can't stand but but I'd rather reach out to and I think part of 259 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,120 it is because of that honesty that you spoke of and 260 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,440 everything, man, but I'd rather reach out to lifestyle community 261 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,320 members. There is so many members in this 262 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,240 that are all sorts of whatever you need. 263 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,960 You know, I need help with this. I need help with that. 264 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,600 I need help with real estate. I need help finding this. 265 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,320 I need a plumber. And there are people in the 266 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,840 lifestyle that you can reach out to and be like, hey, I need 267 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,280 this. Oh, I know so and so I'll see if 268 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,720 he can come and help you out and you know, you going to have a 269 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640 good experience with them rather than trying to find somebody on 270 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:24,200 your own, you know, but like you said, traveling and, and talking 271 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,440 to a lot of people, man, I, I, I, I meet so many people all 272 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,400 over the world and, and now that I'm doing a lot of stuff 273 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,480 internationally to meet a lot of people and, and yeah, it's, 274 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,360 it's, it's a special feeling, man. 275 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,080 It's a special community. The one thing I've always said 276 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,760 about Splash is this is it was even more so earlier when it was 277 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,240 only one a year where it was like this was like it really is 278 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,880 a brotherhood. You know, we, we see people and 279 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,920 now that they're 6A year, you know, I may see this some people 280 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:03,080 every, you know, 66 splashes or three splashes, but you see this 281 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,760 person and I may not know them, but I hey, man, how you doing? 282 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 It's good to see you again. You know what's going on this 283 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,280 couple here. Hey, it's good to see you guys 284 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 again. You know, it is, it is a special 285 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,520 and I don't, you know, you don't do that outside of this, outside 286 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,200 of the community, man. It's just it's a different 287 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,680 feeling. And I'm not sure if it's partly 288 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,680 because of what you said, the, the honesty and truthfulness 289 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,400 around everything because she can go out and fuck 20 dudes in 290 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:41,360 a night, 30 dudes in a weekend. But outside of that bedroom, you 291 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,560 still people. And we still talk and, and, and 292 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,920 get along with everything, man, you know, and, and there's I was 293 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,040 talking to, so I was with Barbell vixen this weekend and 294 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,680 she, this is like her third or fourth splash and introducing 295 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,280 her to people, you know, and she's, and I'm like, you know, 296 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,240 This is why I enjoy it because there's people at our table. 297 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:14,760 And I said to her, I said, these are honest, good, kind, caring 298 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,000 people, you know, And you see that in these people, you know, 299 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,480 you talk to them and they would do whatever they could to help 300 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 you if, if you need it, some help. 301 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,080 So like I said, I would rather reach out to a lot of lifestyle 302 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:34,800 family members that I've met here at Splash than I would to a 303 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,360 lot of people in my vanilla. Like there is not even a 304 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:41,560 question as to if I would reach out to people here. 305 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,240 I know and I know they would do everything possible to help me 306 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,480 out, you know? One of the things that I like 307 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,680 that you said, and it's there's a lot of things that being in 308 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,560 this type of community that we take for granted. 309 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,920 For example, we can all talk about sex. 310 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,160 We can all talk about how much fun you had last night. 311 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,520 We can literally be sitting at breakfast and you'd be like, Oh 312 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,160 yeah, my wife had a threesome last night with these two dudes 313 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,880 while I was sitting there working on my computer. 314 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,360 And like, no one's face, it's not weird. 315 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Nobody's like there's nobody going up. 316 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,960 Like it just blows right past like, oh, really cool, cool. 317 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,920 You know, we it's the correct, it's the best sensation where 318 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,320 that feeling of judgment walk goes away. 319 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,080 So you'll see people who are new, they come in and it's like 320 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,440 the women, usually the women have their thing, the guys have 321 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 their thing. The guys have this huge struggle 322 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,400 with their masculinity. Oh, well, if I let my wife do 323 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,120 this, where these guys going to be thinking, you know, I, I 324 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,320 don't want you to think I'm this right. 325 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,400 And then the women are, well, you know, I know I shouldn't 326 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,480 want to do this. Well, I'm only going to, I'm 327 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,360 only going to do like 2 guys. I'm only going to do 2. 328 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,840 And then you'll be talking to them and they'll be having this 329 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,080 internal struggle. And then when you sit down and 330 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,160 talk to them and my wife, I love when my wife talking to new 331 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,440 women and they're talking and they're like, yeah, you know, 332 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,040 you know, I kind of want to do, you know, maybe one or two guys, 333 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,600 you know, and my wife's like, yeah, I've done 15. 334 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,160 It's Thursday just started. And she's like, and then they're 335 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,720 listening to these conversations, you know, with 336 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,080 the ladies talk. And all of a sudden they 337 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,880 realize, wait a minute. I can literally do what guys do. 338 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,680 Like, 100%. You're talking to some guy who 339 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,960 you just played with and you get up and he's still treating you 340 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,120 like a lady. You know, you during that 341 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,360 session, Like, if you listen to my wife have sex, she's nasty. 342 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:42,320 She's like, fuck this dirty whore. 343 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,640 Plus. Then afterwards, she's like, oh, 344 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,120 would you like a washcloth? You know? 345 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,080 And like, you're sitting there watching her banter with these 346 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,640 guys and the guys, like being a gentleman. 347 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,680 He's like, you also water. Yeah. 348 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Thank you. And you just walk away. 349 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,640 That's our community. So when we come into this place 350 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,440 where we can actually just be, and that's why I always tell 351 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,800 people, do what feels right, you know, because we start 352 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,320 questioning why am I this kind of person? 353 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Why do I have this desire like? Why are you asking? 354 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Does it? Does it feel right? 355 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,320 That's just the conditioning that everyone has been taught 356 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,920 from the time that they were little, you know, And this is 357 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,800 contradictory to everything that you've ever learned about, which 358 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,080 is good about like Scarlet the slut sisters. 359 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,840 It's like, listen, female empowerment. 360 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:34,320 You choose who you want to fuck. It doesn't matter if it's 1015 361 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,040 dudes in the night, you still are in power and you're still a 362 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,360 a beautiful strong woman. Doesn't mean that just because 363 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:45,920 you want to fuck 15 dudes in the night in an hour or whatever it 364 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,600 is, you still a strong, beautiful, powerful woman, you 365 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560 know. And but again, that's it's just 366 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,760 everything that we do is contradictory to what we've 367 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,520 always been taught and grown up to see and everything you know. 368 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,360 And you know, in my opinion, you'll know your community is a 369 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:10,360 good community when those things are normalized, when it's oh, 370 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,360 you want to have fun? I could have fun. 371 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,160 It's not the oh, you going to do what? 372 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Because within the lifestyle, understand, you know, the 373 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,200 lifestyle there, the lifestyle, there's still a lot of 374 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680 communities within lifestyle that are very judgmental, very, 375 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,360 very judgmental. Humans are humans. 376 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,600 That's just how it is. Humans are humans and my wife 377 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,880 and I are, you know, this is a small bubble in the lifestyle 378 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,320 community. You know, we, we are involved in 379 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,800 a lot of different places in the lifestyle. 380 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,720 And so it's interesting, you have different groups where you 381 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,240 will see different judgment where it's like, you know, we 382 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,400 have parties where we have parties where people don't 383 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,920 openly have sex with black dudes, but like there's three or 384 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,480 four wives there who are having sex with black dudes. 385 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Now we respect that because we understand that they still have 386 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,600 to go out to society and be comfortable and we respect that. 387 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:03,000 But within their within that bubble of people, we know we'll 388 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,600 go out, we'll hang out these people. 389 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,000 And there's like four people who didn't know that they did this 390 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,720 and they met at our party. And it's kind of like the, yeah, 391 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,360 like secret, you know, is, you know, but we're still in that 392 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,680 community where nobody else can admit that. 393 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,600 That's one of the things I like about this particular community 394 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,160 where you can come in and like, literally, like, there's nothing 395 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,080 weird. Like there's the cocktail party. 396 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,520 You walk in, the guys are in full cages, hanging out 397 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,920 drinking, and everybody's comfortable. 398 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,160 Like, there's like, the guys come in there. 399 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,680 There's no weird looks, you know, But there's certain 400 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,560 communities and lifestyle. You can't do that, you know, you 401 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,680 go in there and the guys like, Oh my God, I can't believe, you 402 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,120 know. So this is one of the things I 403 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,840 like about it. Now we'll move over to Dimitri 404 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,160 because there's a big aspect of the community that I like. 405 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Oh boy, with D within this community, when we start talking 406 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:03,800 about the benefit to the guys interacting with the other guys, 407 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:10,080 you know, we, we've, we, we've seen where there's a lot of guys 408 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,400 who are in certain spaces who didn't have the mentoring. 409 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:21,120 So unfortunately, it takes a good 5-10 years for a single guy 410 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:26,400 or bull to get seasoned, to get the experience to, to start 411 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,920 understanding the difference between you as a couple and you 412 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,800 as a couple and you as a couple and being able to adapt to that. 413 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,680 What does the community with the guys? 414 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,360 How has that kind of fast, fast track guys in your opinion? 415 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:49,000 Well, I will say this to start off in the beginning, well, my 416 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,240 journey within the lifestyle, we didn't really have a community 417 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,480 that welcomed us nor do we have the support from the people as 418 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,760 well. So with that being said, going 419 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,960 into these parties and these other convinces out there, 420 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,320 practice Flash smoker. They wanted your money, but they 421 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,000 didn't want your presence and they let it be known openly. 422 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,880 So it got to a point where you start feeling disrespected, a 423 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,160 novelty, a taboo, and it gets to where it's like, you know what, 424 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,520 fuck it, let's step out of that. Let's build our own brand. 425 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Let's build our own house, but let's bring in quality brothers 426 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,120 with great presentation and mentoring and with tutelage 427 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:44,520 mentoring. Just a big powwow and we have 428 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,920 house splash smoker now. Yes, it did. 429 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,880 It took a lot of time, but we got them there and I'm trying 430 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,040 to. I don't want to go too much off 431 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,200 the rail, but it's been a journey and it's still going for 432 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,480 us as well. But also, I do apologize because 433 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,200 I'm also still sick, so my bad on that. 434 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,600 Too late now. Yeah, I already got it. 435 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520 I already got it. Well, it's like a sinus thing 436 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:16,640 going on right now. But this is like really, really 437 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,560 special to me because it's been such a journey to get this 438 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,960 platform going to. Where is that? 439 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Like Craig's media said prior, we start with one event. 440 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,600 We're doing 6 now and we stead of evolving and we stead of 441 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,720 growing and we want to keep guys going and we want to make sure 442 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,600 that we want to be couples with us as well. 443 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:44,040 So the benefits that we do need and we do we ask for is also 444 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,200 your voices because it's not is it's not going to take us, it's 445 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,920 going to take you as well. You come to the house and splash 446 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 smoke and you get a great experience with great people. 447 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,320 I want you to go out there and share those stories. 448 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,080 I want to let people know that we are getting above etiquette, 449 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,480 married character, everything, not just a typical BBC. 450 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,640 You know, it's probably label BBC is probably label a bull. 451 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,160 But besides know the size of my Dick, the way of leaning left or 452 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,160 right. You don't know my character as 453 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,360 well as my brother standing sit beside me as well. 454 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960 That's the goal and agenda that we try to push. 455 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,120 As a span smoker you have aquatic brothers, quality 456 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,080 substance, quality presentation and the quality environment with 457 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080 quality people. You have a quality outcome and 458 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,360 have a great time. Mean by the time you get home 459 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,400 and you talk about everything and your experiences, look at 460 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,960 the pictures, you have a great memories you will be back. 461 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,400 Those one of the benefits those those are our goals. 462 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560 I love seeing the beautiful face. 463 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,760 I love seeing the smiles of you guys when you walk out. 464 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,800 I love seeing you proud of your wife taking 5 or 6 Dicks. 465 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,400 Hell, I hope you see take your mind that's another story but I 466 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,880 do I want you guys to see that this is what our this is our 467 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,720 goal. We want you guys come and see 468 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,560 that we are quality gentlemen in the lifestyle community and we 469 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,920 do have a place in this position of the community just can't be 470 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000 started expressed doesn't mean it's going to end this by 471 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,920 smoker. We still are growing and 472 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,440 spending and we're going to continue to but we also want you 473 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800 guys on this journey with us. We can't do it alone. 474 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,720 That's one of the biggest benefits that. 475 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240 I see. I want to continue to see and I 476 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,040 hope that we have your support. I'm sorry, let's not get a new 477 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:34,680 one again, but that's more of a about to say something means me 478 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680 to be in the back. But that's that's more important 479 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,280 to me as in my goal in my Jennifer Splash smoker is to see 480 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,960 that yes, this is our home and also want to be working to our 481 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,840 home as well. But I know that we ask that you 482 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,200 give us the respect that you do, you ask you demand from us. 483 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,720 That's all I have to say about it from there. 484 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,120 Let me let me ask you something because you brought up 485 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,080 something. Well either one of y'all do you 486 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,880 feel that for for new guys coming into the lifestyle like I 487 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,040 know people that are like splash mocha is not a place for you to 488 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,480 come if you are not if you are new in the. 489 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,360 Life that's not true. Oh. 490 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,040 I want that one. That's not no. 491 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,080 No, no, no, no. Let me get the question up. 492 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,200 Let me get the question up because I because I I completely 493 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,320 disagree with that. I disagree too. 494 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,840 I completely disagree. I love when I have a new guy 495 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640 that was within the lifestyle community to make his very first 496 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,240 experience as Spanish because the barn sits so high for him 497 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,960 that he going to know his importance when he walked back 498 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,400 out those doors. Are he going to know where he's 499 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,960 staying within the community? Like I said, not just it's more 500 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,560 of just the conquest of fucking. It's what he's going to learn 501 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,000 who you're going to meet. The quality of people is so much 502 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040 going to be up on that upon this roof, this building? 503 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,800 No, I totally disagree with that, but I think that a new guy 504 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,520 come here. I welcome any day. 505 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,680 Yeah, I, like I said, I completely disagree with that 506 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,080 statement also because the thing that I tell people who are new 507 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:13,720 is I think it's going to not ruin your lifestyle experience 508 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,520 because you're expecting when you go to another hotel, party 509 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,160 or whatever, you're expecting this. 510 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,640 And then once you get there and you realize it's here, you know, 511 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,240 you realize it's not the same experience because as, as we all 512 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360 know, everybody, you come in here, everybody's friendly, 513 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,840 everybody's cordial. And and this is just a special 514 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,200 environment here. But I was going to ask as far as 515 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,240 the new, new men here, kind of what you asked about, do you 516 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,480 feel that coming to Splash Mocha as your first or second event, 517 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:57,360 does that help? Does that speed up your process? 518 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,200 Because as you said it, you know, it takes, it takes years 519 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,880 to be a season bull. As far as the lifestyle, do you 520 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,720 feel that coming to this event can help accelerate a person's 521 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,280 maturation? Yeah, I mention. 522 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,160 So. So the reason I mentioned on 523 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680 this one is because it's not just the men, it's both the 524 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,800 couples as well. I always giggle when I hear 525 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,360 someone say the first thing I've ever done lifestyle is splash 526 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,960 mocha and I'm like woof. And I think that it's a high bar 527 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,440 and I think that the struggle comes in is what I'm trying to 528 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,680 explain to them is not, we always say it's the Super Bowl. 529 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,640 So you you went from not even playing the Little leagues to 530 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,800 just going right to the Super Bowl. 531 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960 But it's more about the expectation of the difference. 532 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,840 You didn't have the build up to see that what you're now at is 533 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,600 so much better than anything else. 534 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,360 And if you live your entire life with nothing but sunny, shiny 535 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480 days, you truly can't appreciate if you didn't have a rainy day. 536 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,600 And that's the part of it. So once they go from splash down 537 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,280 to what it and we're not trying to be disrespectful to any other 538 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,080 part. I've been in life so long 539 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120 enough, I've enjoyed other different things and you'll have 540 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,520 different experiences, different places. 541 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,120 I hear wonderful things about HITO, wonderful things about all 542 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 sorts of different events that we won't necessarily mention. 543 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:21,000 But the level of care that we put into this to make sure that 544 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,360 the couple's expectation is being met and that the men's 545 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,560 expectation are being met and that we're valuing both 546 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,000 situations is not the standard at your local house party. 547 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800 They don't have meetings with different people to set 548 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,360 expectations. And our bar is so high that it's 549 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,760 really something where I haven't met anyone who says that they've 550 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,840 been to anything that is at Splashes level right on par. 551 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Everything's been below. So once you start at the top, 552 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560 it's rough. I will tell you it just is a 553 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,680 food, quick food example. I can't eat chili and sea bass 554 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 anywhere. I had the best one in Mexico. 555 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,800 And every single time I try to eat chili and sea bass, I 556 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880 literally want to throw it away. And I'm like, is this halibut 557 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 with no flavor? Like that's what everything 558 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 tastes like because I've had what I'm pretty sure is the best 559 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440 in Cancun and it was amazing. And it's the exact same thing 560 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,200 that I think I experienced now that I've come here and I've 561 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,320 been to now 16 straight. I don't even play at home. 562 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,320 I don't even go to another party because every time I go to one 563 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,400 over the last three years, I'm like splashes in a month. 564 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200 I can leave like in 30 minutes. I'm like that. 565 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,360 And it's because of the preparation of what we do to 566 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,960 make sure that it's for people here and the the experience that 567 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720 we try to make sure that people have. 568 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,160 So that's the reason I was itching to say it. 569 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,360 I'll pass to the next person is itching to speak. 570 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,440 And real quick though, to the community that is built amongst 571 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160 the men, right? The single man who come and who 572 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400 attend. And again, your brainchild, your 573 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,840 idea, your old, your original group of guys. 574 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,080 That said, we need to mentor all of our friends and the 575 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160 youngsters who are coming in who don't have a good influence in 576 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,000 their life or whatever. We can change their lives by 577 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400 teaching them what we know and what we do. 578 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,360 OK, That's what we do. But that has to start someplace, 579 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,560 right? So it started with you guys. 580 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,880 Now the years have gone by as the father, OK figure if you 581 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,440 will. You look back now at like this 582 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,720 Mocha with all these new guys coming in and all of the 583 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,280 generations of gentlemen that you have brought, trained, they 584 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,880 have brought their people trained. 585 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,960 You know, that community starts here, which builds the couple's 586 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,440 community as we come in, right? Because there's this quality 587 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,640 that these guys have said we, we want to look out and make our 588 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,520 own people the best we can be. That makes the rest of us as the 589 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,920 couples coming and going, we want to be with that community 590 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 because we feel normal and they're good. 591 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,080 But then in the outside lives, as we traverse the, the 592 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,480 lifestyle as it is in whatever form or fashion it takes, these 593 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,720 guys are putting that same energy back out into what might 594 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,560 normally be a awkward house party that you're like, but 595 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,640 Andre's there and they're like that guy. 596 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,440 He was really cool. I would like to know him later, 597 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,400 right? So they're representing 598 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,159 themselves. They're taking what they learn 599 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,159 here and the experiences they have in dealing with us, the 600 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,280 couples and and all the interactions that they have in 601 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,159 the mocha environment carries that into the rest of their 602 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,560 lifestyle and enhances the rest of the lifestyle community. 603 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,639 So the little seeds that are planted all the way back in the 604 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,040 day, we're seeing these fruitful harvest in the crops as the 605 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,960 crowds continue to grow. I just realized that the Minx, 606 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,920 Mrs. Minx and I had not booked for our Atlanta party and 607 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719 hanging on the elevator door says there's only 30 some rooms 608 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,960 left. And I'm like, oh God, she makes 609 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,320 me go get like told you off site hotel and by day passes because 610 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,840 she's not going to miss a mocha. But it's those little seeds out 611 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,320 there that make these things sell out so fast that you 612 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,920 literally got a plan a year ahead. 613 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,400 My vacation dollars I haven't even earned yet. 614 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,720 Wayne and Missy are ready to take them because they're like, 615 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,040 this one's booking up quick. You better get in like, Oh my 616 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,320 God. But again, this is the community 617 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,960 that starts with these little ideas and continually feeds all 618 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,240 the way across the and that's why we have payment plans. 619 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:15,920 So if you need. This guy. 620 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,840 Hey, what do we? Make. 621 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,120 Yeah, There you go. Like, look, make us feel old. 622 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,040 I'm probably not just at the table, so I will own. 623 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,720 That one, you know, we, we will. I'm going to get down the candy 624 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:33,440 liquor in a second because he is like a perfect, perfect example 625 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,320 of how I felt like new guys should behave stepping into it. 626 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120 I'll get that in a second. But when we start thinking about 627 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:48,160 the community and what makes guys and couples a great fit at 628 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,080 this event is is different because I've always said that 629 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,520 couples, believe it or not, couples actually train guys. 630 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,840 Oh, and when I came up, I, I would play with with you guys 631 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,640 and then learn how you guys like something. 632 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,360 Then I would go and play with you guys and then like, oh shit, 633 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,880 I fucked that up. They don't like that. 634 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,720 And then I'll go and meet with them and play with them and 635 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,000 they're like, wait, shit they don't like. 636 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,880 And so you started learning to calibrate your, your male 637 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,520 experience within the lifestyle through meeting couples and you 638 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,880 started learning how to work. Because when I was coming up, I 639 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,680 really didn't have, I was, I mean, I was lone hunter. 640 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,040 I mean, I was by myself. I didn't really have a group of 641 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,840 guys around me. I also didn't have good 642 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640 examples. I can remember going coming 643 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,920 through the lifestyle 20 some years ago and constantly hearing 644 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,560 those a single guy is a dime a dozen. 645 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,160 A single guy is a dime a dozen now. 646 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,200 Like if for the guys who've been to my house parties, the people 647 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480 who've been to my house parties, they know every single person, 648 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,280 every guy who's there has a very long conversation on the phone 649 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000 with me. Every couples that's there has a 650 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,640 very long conversation on the phone with me. 651 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,320 If there's a single female, she has a very long, there is no one 652 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,280 coming to my house by chance. No one's coming to our party by 653 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960 chance. So that was one of the things I 654 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,640 liked about this when my wife and I decided to start working 655 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,560 with Splash Mocha is the way they vetted, you know, don't get 656 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,360 me wrong. I mean you get some people who 657 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,320 come in like, so there were two guys out of 150 that were those 658 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,360 two guys were assholes. I'm like, I'm so sorry that you 659 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,920 know, .2% was bad, you know, but you know that that's how the 660 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,000 world works. But you know, compared to other 661 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:46,120 places that you go, I like the concept of community because as 662 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,960 humans, we generally, unless we're, we have a brain 663 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,000 deficiency, most of us walk into an environment and see that, oh, 664 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,720 all of these people are walking in this direction. 665 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,440 All these people are doing it like this. 666 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,840 So the women can come into this environment and look around and 667 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,280 be nervous to see all the other ladies who are actually having 668 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,800 fun. The guys can come in and look at 669 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,600 these guys and go, man, that guy is really doing good with a 670 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,640 couple. That guy's really having a good 671 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,400 time. Maybe I should talk to that guy. 672 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640 And then you start having these these things where people have 673 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,800 good examples. That's what happened when you 674 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,800 have a solid community where people can actually see, well, 675 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,800 that guy's successful and he's doing these things with guys 676 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,040 coming into it. My candy lifer down here, I 677 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:50,440 remember his first day to me the most, the most emotionally 678 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,480 intelligent thing. He walked in, He'd never been 679 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200 here. And instead of going in and 680 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,040 making a fool of himself, he said, hey, can I pull you aside 681 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,280 and ask you some questions? And I'm going to move that down 682 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,040 to you and ask. So a single guy in a lifestyle 683 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,480 is a dime a dozen, but single guy is not. 684 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,160 Amen. You know and. 685 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,240 I wish that there was. And I would, and I wish that 686 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,480 there were so many other people in places that would understand 687 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,320 that. Like I'm not going to call out a 688 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,440 club or anything like that, but no, I'm not going to. 689 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,800 Call. I'm not going to call everybody 690 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,800 know I say what I'm thinking. So, I mean, they won't be 691 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,880 surprised, but you know, it's, it's. 692 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,840 Just and you see that in the pricing for single males, you 693 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,920 know, it's just one flat fee where it's like, I don't give a 694 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,960 fuck. You're a single male, you going 695 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,680 to get raped on your own price. And there's, there's better ways 696 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,840 to run a business and do things rather than to compare me to 697 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,720 that fucking asshole that's out there that is going to be doing 698 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:55,160 bad shit, you know, so a single. Guy is a dime. 699 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,440 A dozen they it's it's it's true, and one of my. 700 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,360 Debates and I challenge couples with all the time because. 701 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,920 If you listen to, if you talk to 100 couples, 100 couples to tell 702 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,440 you how many times they've met some weird creepy single dude. 703 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,240 And then when I start breaking it down, no, well, those are the 704 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,280 ones who usually fuck that they get in trouble with. 705 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,960 But the, the single guys and I say, what did he do that made 706 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,200 him creepy? Well, you know, I, I, he walked 707 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,560 up to me and you know, like he was, you know, he's touching my 708 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,600 arm and he had his Dick out in the club and I was like, OK, 709 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,720 what did he look like? Are. 710 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,720 You saying you can get away with that? 711 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,720 No, I'm saying. You can get away with it because 712 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:45,880 I, I've seen, I like literally like this is one of my favorite 713 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,840 experiments, like going to trapeze because we, we used to 714 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,880 host parties at the club. I will watch the ladies. 715 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,800 I know all of these ladies, they're all of our friends. 716 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,560 They've been to our house. They walk in the back and 717 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,840 they'll be like, Oh my God, those guys are so creepy. 718 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,520 And I look back there, OK, the guy is not attractive. 719 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,960 But then she goes back there and the guy looks like this dude, 720 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,400 you know, and I'm talking to you tall guy looks like that guy and 721 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,400 he's walking around with a towel on his Dick out. 722 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,720 And she's like, you know, I just wish he was more assertive. 723 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,160 Like what do you mean? Like how do you come over and 724 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,760 maybe rub his Dick on my arm or something like that out of being 725 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,520 good like, but you call the other guy creepy. 726 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,040 So you, he wasn't fuckable. So he was creepy, you know, so 727 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,960 as dudes, if we go back and we see a woman who we're not 728 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,360 attracted to and she's flirts with us, we don't be like, bro, 729 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120 it's some creepy chicks. And we don't do that. 730 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,640 We're just honest and be like, yeah, I didn't want to fuck her, 731 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,040 you know? So that's why I start 732 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,920 challenging people. Like, what do you mean the guys 733 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,600 are creepy? And then you start breaking down 734 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,520 like you know a person who know a person who had a single dude 735 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,800 who was extremely disrespectful. What was extremely 736 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,080 disrespectful? Well, there was that time when 737 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,400 we were supposed to go out and he no call no showed me. 738 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,200 Now this would be the same couple who's got 4 kids. 739 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,760 I got 6, I get it. But they no call no show this 740 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,880 guy and then expect him to be cool with it. 741 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,000 And then he's just come back for doing it. 742 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,960 So when you started comparing. So that was always my thing with 743 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,160 single guys. Now, once you have a community, 744 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,160 they're prepared for it. So I bring that back to candy 745 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,920 liquor at the end. Why did you start asking 746 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,680 questions day one when you walk in? 747 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,520 So I've been in the lifestyle for about. 20 years and I lived 748 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,440 on the West Coast. On the West Coast is 2% black. 749 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,200 So I walk in a room, it's 100 white women, one black guy. 750 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,200 I'm cool. I'm like I'm in heaven. 751 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,160 But the problem was the problem was I I went through my. 752 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,680 Own personal trials and tribulations. 753 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,280 I didn't have anyone to talk to. I couldn't go, hey, man, what's 754 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,400 up? You know, how do I do this? 755 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,160 The other problem was you never knew if they were married or 756 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,080 not. So if they married, you got to 757 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,280 worry about the guy knocked on your door with a shotgun coming 758 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,120 after you. So I come to the West Coast, 759 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,400 East Coast. And now I'm so all of a sudden 760 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,280 I'm around all these black men. I'm like, OK, that's cool. 761 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,760 I'm going to be like, I'm love this. 762 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,720 But I'm like the lifestyle kind of sucks in South Carolina. 763 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,480 So I'm like, all right, so I hear about splash Mocha. 764 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,440 I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go to splash mocha. 765 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,960 So I know one name, Dimitri. I talked to him for 1/2 an hour. 766 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,200 That's it. That's all I got. 767 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,080 I'm like all right, it's cool, I'm going to be able to do this. 768 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,680 I walked into Splash Mocha and two words come to mind. 769 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,960 I was vulnerable and I had to be courageous, so I walked. 770 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,320 In. And I'm like, OK, you know what 771 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,680 I got to put on my big boy pants right now because I got to get, 772 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,800 I got to figure this out because I was going to leave, straight 773 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,240 up leave. I'm like, I'm too old. 774 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,320 I don't have the body type. I can't do it. 775 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560 We're going to let him leave. So. 776 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,720 I'll never forget it. Look me square in my eyes. 777 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,240 He said you're a good looking guy and you're quality. 778 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,000 And I said, you know what? Maybe he's right, but I'm still 779 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,600 skeptical. I'm like, I'm ready to go. 780 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,120 I'm like, I don't know if I can do this or not. 781 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,400 By the end of the first day I was like, all right, I can do 782 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,440 this. People looked at me like I was a 783 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,040 person on the West. Coast. 784 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,120 Like I said, it's 2. Percent black. 785 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,440 So I was black. I was a black guy. 786 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,680 Oh yeah, I want to be with a black guy, but I don't want to 787 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,360 be with a black guy. I want to have sex with you, but 788 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,160 I don't want to like really hang out with you, get to know you 789 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,280 here. People treat you like you're a 790 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,080 person, like you're a human being. 791 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,680 Now I know and, and. So the next funny. 792 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,960 Story is, a couple of splashes later, he looks at me and he 793 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,360 comes to me and goes, who was that? 794 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,480 I'm like, what are you talking about? 795 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:35,840 He was like, you put on this totally different persona than 796 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,360 before, and it was, 'cause I was courageous. 797 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,000 I was vulnerable, but I was courageous. 798 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,320 I listened to what people had to say and I talked to every single 799 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,320 guy here. If you were a veteran, I talked 800 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,200 to you and I talked to Dimitri. I talked, I talked to other 801 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,320 guys. I talked to Dre. 802 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,000 I, I mean, there was a lot of guys I talked to and I realized 803 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880 that, you know what, it's not about what you have to offer. 804 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,040 You don't have to have the biggest Dick. 805 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,320 You don't have to have this. You don't have that. 806 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,440 But I have a great tongue and I knew that. 807 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,400 And for a while, I will lead off. 808 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,880 With that, until I was told not to do that and and they were 809 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,800 absolutely right because I was diminishing who I was. 810 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,480 With one quality. And I have a lot of great 811 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,600 qualities, even though you may not see them all the time, I 812 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,960 know now they have a lot of great qualities to offer. 813 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,560 And so I know that anytime I have an issue, I can go to any 814 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,960 of these guys here, whether I got to call them, well, I got to 815 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,920 text them or whatever. And they're going to answer my 816 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,360 questions. And they're not going to judge 817 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,760 me. They're not going to criticize 818 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,040 me. They're not going to laugh at 819 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,160 me. They may laugh at me, but in a 820 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,400 loving way. And when I come here, as soon as 821 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,400 we walk through the door, we all know that we're here for one 822 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,600 purpose is to make sure that everyone else is happy. 823 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,720 And that's our goal. You know, I don't, I don't sleep 824 00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:56,240 with a lot of women when I come here because that's not what I'm 825 00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,280 here for. I'm here for the communication 826 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,360 part. Some women don't like that. 827 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,040 And, and I'm that's fine. I understand that because they 828 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000 want to get right in and get going. 829 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,960 And that's great. I want to talk to you. 830 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,320 I want to get to know you. I want to find out about your 831 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,600 body. I want to know your husband. 832 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,160 I want to know what he likes, because the husband's going to 833 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,200 give me all the information I need to make you happy. 834 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,040 But yes, for Splash Mocha, if you come here, you have to let 835 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,360 everything go. You got to be courageous, you 836 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,840 got to be vulnerable, and you got to understand that you don't 837 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,280 know everything and you got to. Rely on your your. 838 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,560 Brother man, to be like hey you know what, I need your help and 839 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:37,640 referrals. That's the other. 840 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,120 Thing if I see someone. That I'm interested in. 841 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,320 I don't just go around and talk to them. 842 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,680 I do sometimes, but I'll ask the guy that's talking to her 843 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,840 beforehand like, hey, what is she like she cool, duh, duh. 844 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,800 And find out that information that way. 845 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,560 But Splash Smoke has taught me that, you know, being a man is a 846 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,440 lot more than being able to satisfy someone sexually is 847 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,760 being able to satisfy them mentally and emotionally. 848 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,120 Because even at Splash, we have our bad days. 849 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,960 You know, people pass away, kids get sick, our fellow brother man 850 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,320 gets sick. We got to be there for him and 851 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560 understand that, you know what, they're having a bad day. 852 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,440 Like you said, whenever I came to splash, I was like, where Oh, 853 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920 he's going to come this time and automatically I'm like, I'm in a 854 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,080 bad, I'm sad. I'm like going, man, it's not 855 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,160 going to be here. Dmitri is not going to be here. 856 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,160 Oh, man, what's going on with Dmitri? 857 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,880 Where's he at? You know, and everybody wants to 858 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,720 know where's everybody at? Because we're so used to seeing 859 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,080 everybody here. So it's it's great. 860 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,320 It's a, it's a family, not just community, it's family. 861 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,840 I pretty want y'all guys to really. 862 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,440 Understand that we really, truly mean that we we are. 863 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,360 We are family. We don't. 864 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,400 Take that word. Loosely, you know, or generic? 865 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,360 No, we, we really are a family. And we also see the same thing. 866 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,840 You guys are a mere extension of our family as well. 867 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,080 We are more than welcome to have you walked those doors at any 868 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,920 event you want, you would like to, and we're going to treat you 869 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,280 as such. We're going to let you know that 870 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,440 you're a family. I mean, we fuck, but we, we 871 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,600 family. But with the guys, everything 872 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,720 with the guys we are. But. 873 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:14,960 With the guys. Everything. 874 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,640 Yes, truly we are. We're with the guys, everybody 875 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,920 though, we, we really are family. 876 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,840 And like I tell the. Guys, all the time. 877 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200 I'm too old to have friends, but I'm never too old to have a 878 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,920 brother. And I always tell these guys 879 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,440 they're my brother. I tell them I love from the 880 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400 moment they walk in to the mold that we leave. 881 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,240 You know, you would not get a you would not leave my presence 882 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:42,040 from a hug and a handshake when we part ways because I'm looking 883 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,160 forward to seeing you again. And just like Kendall, Lucas 884 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,120 said, we always check up into each. 885 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,960 Other even myself. I have a lot of questions. 886 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,240 I don't know everything. The lifestyle community is 887 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,880 evolving. Sometimes it it get right past 888 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,560 me that I have to call to call my brothers to keep to kiss me 889 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,360 back up. I stay humble in that nature. 890 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,840 So all the guys are great. Thank you and the respect for 891 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,880 that as well. But these guys truly are my 892 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,120 brothers. They are and we we definitely 893 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,040 challenge each other. One of the reasons that I wanted 894 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,720 Candy Liquor to talk is because he represents a piece of of guys 895 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,360 that most people don't see. OK, he's speaking truth. 896 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,960 I remember he said to me one day, we're talking about 897 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040 something. He's like, well, you don't get 898 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,160 rejected. The fuck? 899 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,880 That's an AI want a remember this everybody. 900 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,840 I don't get rejected. OK, when I come asking, so I'm 901 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,880 joking, I'm joking, but that the the beauty that was like, no, I 902 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,560 do get rejected. We all get rejected. 903 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,560 That's just and and I and I've told couples many times, like 904 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,280 you have couples come in and they're like, well, the guys 905 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,880 won't come and speak to me. Like I'm nervous too. 906 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:58,440 Like I am nervous too. Like there's, you know, I've 907 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,720 had, you know, a couple women like, well, I just thought you 908 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:01,880 didn't like me. And I'm like, well. 909 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,200 That you you that you think that I'm just. 910 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,200 Walking in like everybody wants my Dick. 911 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,160 No, no, it doesn't work like that. 912 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,280 Like I'm like, OK, I see this woman, I like her, she's 913 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,160 attractive, OK, I want to talk to her. 914 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,680 And then it's two of you. I mean, and you got a husband 915 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,400 now I got you, OK, Now I got there's two against me. 916 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,680 I got to figure out, you know, is he going to be comfortable me 917 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,720 talking his wife? OK, there's some couples where I 918 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,400 may be talking to her. We're talking to him and then 919 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,600 he's like, you know, I don't like that guy. 920 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,560 She might like me, but he don't like me. 921 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,320 So now I'm out. So, you know, it's sometimes, 922 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,960 you know, we're nervous too with him. 923 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,520 He's honest enough to put it out there. 924 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,000 And he's right. You know, he will get a laugh 925 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,000 sometime, but he'll get a laugh and a head shake because we're 926 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,160 going, yeah, that is true. I do feel like that too. 927 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,360 But you know, I've got to be super macho and masculine 928 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,680 because I don't want anybody know that I'm experiencing the 929 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,760 same thing. So like, that's one of the 930 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,680 things that I definitely love about that standpoint. 931 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,280 And you know, one of the things I would like to do is, you know, 932 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,800 at this point, open it up for the people, the couples out 933 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,280 there. Because like I said before, 934 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,920 there's two aspects of the development of the guys in our 935 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,200 community. You know, what we're talking 936 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,160 about right now is the secondary aspect. 937 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,680 The secondary aspect is learning from the guys next to you, 938 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:36,160 because I can tell him like, look, women do not like when you 939 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,440 know you, you know, lick their pussy. 940 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,480 All right, calm down. I know. 941 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,640 And if I go to your house and you want me to lick it, then 942 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,320 fuck with that guy said that's what she like, you know. 943 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,320 So the training is really from the couples in the conversation 944 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,840 with the husband, which is how we wind up having, you know, 945 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,880 couples who we are friends with, we talk to and we're close with 946 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,280 them. You know, if we vibe like that, 947 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,000 the the trust, the friendship there is. 948 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:11,320 I have couples who I trust my wife go out of town, hang out 949 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,320 with them and we have these lifelong friendship. 950 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,760 I mean, Mr. Minks came to my house and I had stabbed one of 951 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,520 his tires because I didn't want to leave, you know? 952 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440 You know, we have our friendships that are that are 953 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,000 tight like that, you know. So from as I'm looking at the 954 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,720 couples in here, have you noticed or are you aware of how 955 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:38,080 strong your influence is on the development of the guys who you 956 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,960 interact with like couples? Do you know how strong your 957 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,280 influence is? They're new. 958 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,160 If you want. To speak, if you want to speak, 959 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,440 I'll come out. I'm coming. 960 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,280 Over. I'll bring it over. 961 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,120 Because I I say this, couples don't realize how powerful their 962 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,240 influence is, especially where I constantly say this. 963 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,960 The common misconception is you meet this great looking guy, 964 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,200 he's fit, he's 26. Oh, he's going to fuck my wife, 965 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,960 going to love it. And this guy is fucking 26. 966 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,600 He has no life experience. And you're like, these fucking 967 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,920 bulls are shitty. No, this is your turn. 968 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,680 It's your time to shine because you may be his first or second 969 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,640 experience. Because half the shit he says, 970 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,840 it's bullshit. And he's telling you, oh, yeah, 971 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,120 do this all the time. You don't let me fuck your wife. 972 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,760 Yeah, absolutely. I'm good at this. 973 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,480 He has no idea what he's talking about. 974 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,560 So when you start talking about or thinking about the influence, 975 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,280 here's my question to you guys. When you first interact with the 976 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,680 guy who you like, how do you wish your expectation for 977 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,880 communication? You hold that and you tell me, 978 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,080 what do you think? I think for me, communication. 979 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,000 Is so important. I think there's such a. 980 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,360 Misconception, I think with anything in the lifestyle that 981 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,360 because if you're in the lifestyle together, that's it 982 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,600 you're. Instantly that's it. 983 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,560 You're going to meet each other and then you're just going to go 984 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,680 and play. And that for me is not my 985 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,480 expectation in the slightest. I have to talk to people and if 986 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,600 I don't feel a connection just through verbally talking like 987 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,720 similar interests and things, I I will be out quite quickly. 988 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,120 And I've had it where people will come up to me and just be 989 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,760 like, oh, hi, what's your name? And I'll say it. 990 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,240 And then they're like, right, should we go play? 991 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,920 And I'm like, absolutely not, no, thank you. 992 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,880 I have, I, I can't just flick a switch and that's it. 993 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,520 I think it's important for us all to humanise each other 994 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,880 because I think so much of what we can do can become sort of 995 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,160 transactional and, and, and, and, and puts people in the way 996 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,400 where you're just another person in the line. 997 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,720 But if we can actually look at each other as people and, and 998 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,040 appreciate each other for our stories and our histories and 999 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,840 our journeys, I think you can get so much more out of it. 1000 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,840 So when we talk to people who are new, that you know, and, 1001 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,760 and, and, and, and you were right, Mr. when you were talking 1002 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,480 about people coming up to us and, you know, they're worried 1003 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,360 too. They want to make a good 1004 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,560 impression on you and you want to make a good impression on 1005 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,800 them. And you want to listen to them 1006 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,600 and hear their story and see what they're into and see if 1007 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,720 you're compatible. And sometimes you are compatible 1008 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,280 and that's great. And some of us you're not, and 1009 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,760 that's great too. And you've got to celebrate the 1010 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,800 fact that, you know, maybe we're not for you, you know, but there 1011 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,560 is someone here for you. That's I think the great thing 1012 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,240 we found out. There's nothing. 1013 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,880 And there's nothing wrong with being not for you, nothing wrong 1014 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,960 with that at all. But I tell you that the hard 1015 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,440 part about it, being a single male and coming to a party like 1016 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,080 this, it's really hard to find out who wants what. 1017 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,200 Like you just said, you like a little bit more of a connection, 1018 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,840 but then there's other girls that come here and they're like, 1019 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,480 I don't care. I just let I need 15 guys right 1020 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,440 now to fuck me. Let's go up. 1021 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,200 Let me see. You, you, you, you, you, you, 1022 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,120 you. So there's a, there's a huge. 1023 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,520 You know, it's, it's, it's hard as a single male to come in 1024 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,920 this, even though we know what this party is like and 1025 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,800 everything to, to, to navigate the waters and see what she 1026 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,400 likes and what she likes. Well, in the UK, what's the 1027 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,680 saying? Secret vixen? 1028 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,120 You say we don't yuck. Oh, you don't yuck other 1029 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,480 people's. Yums, you don't yuck other 1030 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,040 people's yums and. If that's if they're in 1031 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,560 something you're not into, that's OK. 1032 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,680 I think if you can establish what you're into and what you're 1033 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,840 looking for, Well, we were having a conversation only the 1034 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,320 other day about labels and how some people really don't like 1035 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,920 using labels and I think that on entry point. 1036 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,680 Having a label. Is actually really helpful 1037 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,560 because you straight away can start to think, OK, so if that's 1038 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,800 their label, they're probably not into this, this and this. 1039 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,920 So again, it's another conversation starter. 1040 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,000 Yeah, I think it's. Yeah, I think they're good. 1041 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,080 Yeah, I judge people. I judge. 1042 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,720 People who don't like labels I I do. 1043 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,880 I judge the shit. I don't listen if we don't I. 1044 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,520 Listen and I judge. Because if you don't like 1045 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,360 labels, what I'm going to do is you're going to be, you're going 1046 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,080 to eat your, eat your, your dinner, and I'm going to put two 1047 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,400 containers down with a white substance with a shaker on it. 1048 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,760 And one's going to be sugar and one's going to be salt. 1049 00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:01,680 Have at it. There's no labels. 1050 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,240 It's a starting point. It's a. 1051 00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:07,160 It's a starting. Point and everything has a 1052 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,840 variation. This is an SUV. 1053 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:18,400 Well, you're Humvee and my, you know, Nissan Rogue are both SU 1054 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,960 VS but they don't do the same shit. 1055 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,240 But we have a starting point and then we add the variables. 1056 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,960 So I'm a huge fan of, yes, labels are important to me 1057 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,240 personally. Oftentimes the fear of labels, 1058 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,800 and I know this, people have judged me for saying this, but 1059 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,040 I've judged you first. That's OK. 1060 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,040 The fear of labels to me is an indication of, of, of emotional 1061 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,400 weakness because I need a starting point. 1062 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:46,920 Like I need to know like like your cook, this person is a 1063 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,040 cuck. But cuck holding goes from the 1064 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,800 mild to the extreme. Very extreme. 1065 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,400 However. This is what you identify as. 1066 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,880 You know, when we're talking about a couple who is a stag 1067 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,840 vixen couple. That gives me a place now. 1068 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,360 You were different in that because now I at least know 1069 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,640 there is no aspect of humiliation that you enjoy. 1070 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,360 OK, so those things are helpful to have that. 1071 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,440 But then when we look at what you just said when we first got 1072 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,040 into the lifestyle, my wife was like, hey, hey, I want to talk 1073 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,320 to them, bring them in. I want to fuck them. 1074 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,760 You're the only person I need to know. 1075 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,560 So as a single guy, when I say that couples get to educate the 1076 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,440 guys. So our task is to learn when we 1077 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,760 come to you and start talking when I was asking you about the 1078 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,760 knowing of the how much you educate when the guy walks up to 1079 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,080 you and goes, hey, you wanna go fuck? 1080 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,320 Do you go, oh, fuck that guy, he's out. 1081 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,000 Or do you say what do you do there? 1082 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,840 So when that's kind of. Happened to me. 1083 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,440 I will often sort of say why don't we actually speak first? 1084 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,920 Like I will tend to sort of say let's let's talk 1st and then 1085 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,400 we'll see what happens and then talk first then fuck later. 1086 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,760 Maybe, maybe, yeah. But I think. 1087 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,720 And that's one. Thing I've been really, really 1088 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,080 impressed with here is actually how respectful the guys have 1089 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,760 been when you have said no, like there hasn't felt like there's 1090 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,240 been any like, animosity. They're just like, OK, you have 1091 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,560 a good night and then they'll go off. 1092 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,960 So you haven't. That comes back to what you. 1093 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,440 Guys said earlier about training and learning to be this 1094 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,960 lifestyle and understanding that sometimes it's going to be a no 1095 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,840 and that's OK. And to deal with that in a 1096 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,320 respectful way. Of course you've got to say no 1097 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,520 in a respectful way and move on. But yeah, understand to deal 1098 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,600 with that and move on. And yeah, there's someone for 1099 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,440 everyone, but not everyone is for you, right? 1100 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,720 Yeah, That that sharp. Transition. 1101 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,680 So this was interesting about guys like single guys who have 1102 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,120 experience, you know, there's the sharp transition. 1103 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,120 I come to you. I I've I'm in an environment 1104 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,760 where like four of the ladies I talked to, they're OK, I want to 1105 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,200 talk, I want to talk, I want to talk. 1106 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,760 And then you meet the woman who doesn't want to talk. 1107 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,760 She wants to your Dick and you're talking to her and it's 1108 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,160 like you kind of see like she's trying to she's like trying to 1109 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,520 stick in there with you. Like clearly this guy needs a 1110 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,440 connection. And then the husband is a 1111 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,760 gentleman. Be like, hey, hey, you know, she 1112 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,760 really just wants to go upstairs. 1113 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,640 You're like, oh, OK, switch with so so guys, as you know, the the 1114 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:22,480 more. The the guys who are more 1115 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,680 experienced, experienced or the guys who are more flexible 1116 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160 because you're going to have some guys just like couples 1117 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:36,120 where my man 7 his thing is, look, I know what I want. 1118 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,760 I'm not interested in doing this or that. 1119 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,960 I'm interested in playing this way. 1120 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,360 So if the couple wants to just rush into it, I may not want 1121 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,000 that. You know, you have me where I'm 1122 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,680 like, I'm cool with either 1 you know, So when I always speak 1123 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,000 about the I'm going to run back here, then I'm coming back to 1124 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:54,840 you. I want to. 1125 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,440 I want to just say something. About labels real fast because 1126 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,000 you, you have a label or preliminary label as we, we, you 1127 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,520 know, we kind of said that doesn't mean that you're stuck 1128 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,120 in that box. You know, so now, like you said, 1129 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,560 you may be a couple, but that doesn't mean. 1130 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,200 So now I have to explore and see what in that realm of cuckoldry 1131 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,080 that you're in. So just because you are labeled 1132 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,760 as this doesn't mean you have to stay in that box. 1133 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,080 The label is a compass. You can be. 1134 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,480 Something different you can. Figure out your journey 1135 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,600 throughout the time and update people and then they'll treat 1136 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:30,960 you as such. Yeah, because you're going to 1137 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,240 switch and. A label is very much a compass. 1138 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,080 If I'm like, Hey, I want you to go here and you're not willing. 1139 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,240 Am I going North SE? Hey, hey, I'm not into labels. 1140 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,520 I just need you to get to this. And you're not going to tell me 1141 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,160 if it's North because it's really NE, but but it's North, 1142 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,680 right? So that's when I say the labels 1143 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,440 give us a starting direction. And then, you know, the life 1144 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,280 lifestyle is a is a is a fingerprint. 1145 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,480 The way you lifestyle and the way you lifestyle and the way 1146 01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,200 you lifestyle. It's as unique as a fingerprint. 1147 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800 But you know what, it's fucking fingerprint. 1148 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,800 There's a label is we know everybody's fingerprint is 1149 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,400 unique. However, we all have one. 1150 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,520 So that gives me a direction to move in. 1151 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,280 So that's kind of where where I'm saying when we're trying, 1152 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,880 when we're educating the guys, the couples, you guys educate 1153 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,320 us. Like when I got into the 1154 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:26,440 lifestyle 23 years ago, I learned from couples, trial and 1155 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,320 error. One couple after another, 1156 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,720 figuring out what I'm doing wrong and them going, hey, 1157 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,760 that's not cool. The husbands, husbands, help us. 1158 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:43,440 Please help us because you know her and you're a dude. 1159 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,000 You know what I'm thinking? You know what I'm thinking. 1160 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,160 Help me, please. Like, don't be like, yeah, you 1161 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,880 just figured this out. It's true. 1162 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,640 Y'all jump in there. Yeah. 1163 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,880 As a single male in the lifestyle, I came up in Las 1164 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,920 Vegas so I would see couples from all over the place, all 1165 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,760 over the country. And like you said earlier, it's 1166 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,640 a spectrum for what people want all the way down from the, you 1167 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,680 know, we just getting into it all the way up to the nitty 1168 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,040 gritty. Let's just go to the room. 1169 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,080 And one of the things that has helped me, I think what you were 1170 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,360 trying to say earlier, is just being able to read, being able 1171 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,320 to read people. You know, some things are really 1172 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,560 obvious. I go to the bathroom. 1173 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,320 I come back. There's a fresh beer. 1174 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,760 OK, I'm making headway here. Or, you know, just this is a 1175 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,360 little just reading, people reading how things are going. 1176 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,880 And a lot of times, you know what I'm saying, If you if you 1177 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,560 see if you see something, if you read something that's right. 1178 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,160 And you can make that adjustment around the fly and you know 1179 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,840 they're teaching you, but at the same time you're you're just 1180 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,200 taking in what they're giving you, taking what the defense is 1181 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,360 giving. You know he. 1182 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:45,240 Played football. Yeah. 1183 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,560 So so I'm going to challenge husbands. 1184 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,720 Do I have a husband who I can who I can pick on? 1185 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,160 Now I found the husband that I want to pick on. 1186 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,520 I want to pick on him. And I'm going to tell you why I 1187 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,400 want to pick on him because there's this thing that me, I 1188 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,600 know Mr. Minks and I know, and my wife has chided me for where 1189 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,280 we go to a place and the guy looks at me and they're like, 1190 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,680 he's not approachable. So I'm not going to talk to his 1191 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,280 woman. And he's like, I brought her 1192 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,280 here. I want you to talk to her. 1193 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,200 But then he like, he looks like he might be able to kill you. 1194 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,360 So you're like, let me find somebody easier. 1195 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,720 So I love when I see a guy like this, I'm like, Oh yes, it's not 1196 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,640 just me. So he looks like a beautiful. 1197 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,640 Lumberjack, if you guys, that's. That's that's the situation 1198 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,640 like. I have no. 1199 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,560 Idea how he plays and I'm looking and like, do I want to 1200 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,520 find out like his wife is attractive and I like she's got 1201 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,560 a nice smile, but he's over there like but that was me like 1202 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,440 so that was me. So my question to you, can I can 1203 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,480 I yes Sir. So my question to you, when 1204 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,280 you're in this environment, and this is one of my excuse me 7, 1205 01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,640 one of my greatest debates with other guys and actually the last 1206 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,920 podcast I got, I got into trouble for this because I said 1207 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,960 it's the husband's responsibility, especially if 1208 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,440 he's a scary looking dude with tattoos and a great beard. 1209 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,600 By the way, you doing good there? 1210 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,360 You doing good. So if you know that you're 1211 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,280 intimidating because as a man, as men, we know when we look 1212 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,440 intimidating, how do? You go about. 1213 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,960 Making sure she has a good time at this type of event. 1214 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,200 It's hard, she. Sometimes want to be pushed. 1215 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,920 And sometimes she doesn't. Sometimes I'll make the 1216 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,960 approach. It's it's I'm trying to figure 1217 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:44,480 out guys at the same time, the so it's very situational. 1218 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,640 Yeah, I have been told I'm scary more than once. 1219 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,600 But I whistle, we're stag vixen and I run to the same thing 1220 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,680 trying to get my own at parties and and people don't want to 1221 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,920 approach me. I don't know. 1222 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,320 How do I deal with it? I don't know, but you end up 1223 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,520 making a lot of friends and you chat with these guys that we. 1224 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,480 End up becoming. Friends with sometimes more than 1225 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,200 I do and you're like let's plan a hunting trip next thing you 1226 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,560 know I'm. Serious. 1227 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,400 They they. He has, yeah. 1228 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,080 I tend to fit in easy pretty much anywhere. 1229 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,880 Once I guess you hit, stop being scared. 1230 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,000 Of him you. Know why I'm going to tell you 1231 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,960 this from man code. This is man language. 1232 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,000 A man can be one or two things. When you're a scary looking 1233 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,280 dude, you can make people feel safe or you can scare them. 1234 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,960 It's only two different things. There's there's one or the 1235 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,840 other. You know, one of my favorite 1236 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,360 people, I always pick up Mr. Minks. 1237 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,160 Mr. Minks is the most formidable, one of the most 1238 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,800 formidable human beings I know. But he's always smiling, he's 1239 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,120 always happy. So he makes people feel safe. 1240 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,600 If he switched that if when he if he switches that he's a 1241 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,880 completely different human. No one knows because he always 1242 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,280 makes him feel safe. My first time here, Dimitri came 1243 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,400 up to me was like, dude, you look like fucking security. 1244 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,600 You're like literally that. That's it. 1245 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,680 You know, Drake, big dude beard always pushing me around. 1246 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,920 But you see him out there, he's got a big smile on his face. 1247 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,040 And so like that to me is always interesting. 1248 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,720 Like when I see the husbands, I'm like, what do you do? 1249 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,640 Like what's your me? I just go and I talk to all of 1250 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,400 the guys. I talk to every dude. 1251 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,080 I become the mayor. And then they're like, now that 1252 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,720 because it's going to happen now we're out hunting, we're 1253 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,240 shooting together, We're doing all this stuff and my wife's the 1254 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,520 same way. She's like, why are you friends 1255 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,880 with all the guys I fuck? We're just cool. 1256 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,400 But when I first meet him, they're like, hey, is he, am I 1257 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,400 going to be good fucking you in the house with him upstairs? 1258 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,880 What am I going to do? Hey, I'm biting you here. 1259 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,320 Hey, I'm not going to bite your face off. 1260 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,080 So a lot of these guys are awesome. 1261 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,520 Going back to the whole conversation you're having about 1262 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,240 honesty and the these are the conversations that you used to 1263 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,800 have with the boys back in college about whose ass was the 1264 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,640 best and what you wanted to do and what happened last Thursday 1265 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,720 and it did not go well. What am I going to do next time? 1266 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:23,760 Except now I can have it with adult friends about people I 1267 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,439 care about. And yeah, you just don't get 1268 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:33,479 that other places. So any other husband's willing 1269 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,040 to jump in and say something? Because my other question is, I 1270 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,359 mean coming Mister East Coast first, I want. 1271 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,359 To say something. So one thing I've learned coming 1272 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:47,200 to Splash is I intentionally pick out the brand new people 1273 01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:49,240 and the husbands that look unapproachable. 1274 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,600 The reason why and and the reason why is because when you 1275 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,840 approach those people, you know no other guy's going to approach 1276 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,040 them. I know my qualities. 1277 01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:00,120 I'm going to make you feel comfortable. 1278 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,680 I'm going to make you feel safe. But the other thing is, and not 1279 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,319 my secret, but when that person decides that they do want to 1280 01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:10,560 play, what are you going to pick out me? 1281 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:22,920 The first person that. Besides, great he was waiting. 1282 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,399 That couple's going to look for the. 1283 01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:29,279 Person that made them feel comfortable, that made them feel 1284 01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:32,040 safe, that approached them with that respect. 1285 01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:36,200 Now, do all guys do that? No, I do that intentionally. 1286 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,080 Like I said, I want you to feel, but I know that I'm going to 1287 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,359 give you a great experience. Whether we have sex or not, I'm 1288 01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:43,600 going to give you a great experience. 1289 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,960 I'm going to set that bar so high. 1290 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,359 Yeah, when you go talk to that next guy, you're going to be 1291 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:49,840 like, dude, where did you come from? 1292 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:56,760 So use that to an advantage as a single guy because you know that 1293 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,920 no other guy's going to do it, so take advantage of it. 1294 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,440 So. So my question for couples who 1295 01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:08,560 are if you're shy, if you're quiet, if you don't speak a lot, 1296 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,800 that's where I'm always like where me? 1297 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,200 That's where often like the scary guy I'm comfortable with, 1298 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:24,720 the scary dudes I'm with because yeah, I see them and I'm like, 1299 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,000 OK, cool. There's a good chance because I 1300 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,440 man code is man code. I can see a dude and I know I 1301 01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:34,560 can go up there and talk to him, laugh with him. 1302 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,000 We can have a good time. The like the really shy people, 1303 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,160 those are the ones that I have the hardest time with because 1304 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,800 I'm like looking like, do they want to be here? 1305 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,080 Do they not want to be here? So my question is this. 1306 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,440 I know you're not shy but. Having a shy. 1307 01:10:51,440 --> 01:11:00,760 Wife All right, if a guy is interested in your wife and you 1308 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,320 know that because she seems a little shy, you know that guys 1309 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,720 are going to be nervous. Do you step up and talk to guys 1310 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,200 or do you just kind of push her out there like what's your, 1311 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,480 what's your thing? There's there's a little bit of 1312 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,800 caveat. Too, Because they are still now. 1313 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,120 I'm not sure about your journey from when we talked to was it, 1314 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,760 was it in March? Yeah. 1315 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,720 But it's usually the new, the newer couples are usually the 1316 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,040 Shire ones. Yeah. 1317 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,720 So I'm not, so that's why. Their journey from from then to 1318 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,920 now as far as how much they've played and done different 1319 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,760 things. But I we met some great friends. 1320 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,080 Who helped us along the way. She was very excited. 1321 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,360 She was very. Very. 1322 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,800 We're very excited to come here so. 1323 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,560 And coming back means? Yeah, absolutely. 1324 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,360 Yeah. So I'm. 1325 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,400 Actually, the shy one, I'm more the introvert. 1326 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,800 She's the social butterfly. And for this guy, he gave both 1327 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,840 of us feedback that we really appreciated when we first met 1328 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:05,640 him. But yeah, she does probably 99% 1329 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:11,480 of the interaction with the single man and I just support 1330 01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:15,480 her with a smile. But I may look like I'm more, 1331 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,560 I'm an extrovert, but I'm more the quiet one. 1332 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,520 She's the one who just loves the connection and loves the 1333 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,480 atmosphere of just meeting new people, couple single guys. 1334 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,760 So she's the one who's the more talkative 1 I am, but I think 1335 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,840 that the shot like I love people. 1336 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,160 I am a people person. I will I will talk to anyone and 1337 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,760 try to get to know them. When it comes to like believing 1338 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,400 that they are interested in me. That's where I clam up because 1339 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:41,800 I'm like they're just being kind. 1340 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,680 Like that's my thing. And that's where I like kind of 1341 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,240 like shut down a little bit on myself. 1342 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,400 So going. Going. 1343 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,400 Back to I mean. And this is kind of what I 1344 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,880 wanted to ask too, though, going back to the community side of 1345 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,720 things. So again, this is your second 1346 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,000 Splash. You started out in March and I'm 1347 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:05,480 not sure what you have done from March to now lifestyle wise, but 1348 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,320 how has that community been different outside of Splash as 1349 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,320 opposed to inside of Splash? So these guys were. 1350 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,920 Were great. We were referred to them by a 1351 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,840 Splash guy before we came to Splash and they kind of look. 1352 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,000 Locally to us. So he's like, you should really 1353 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,880 hook up with them and, and get to know them. 1354 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,240 They can give you some great advice. 1355 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,760 So we did that. They weren't at our splash in 1356 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,560 Atlanta, but afterwards they checked in and we're like, how 1357 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,440 did you like it? And would you like to come do 1358 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,840 this with us? Which was amazing. 1359 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,400 And I, we can't thank them enough for that experience. 1360 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:44,960 So just making the connections is is starting to it's starting 1361 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,960 to hit the connections. Like even reaching out to you on 1362 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,520 Telegram. I'm like, he's going to think 1363 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,040 I'm a weirdo even though he's the biggest weirdo. 1364 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,800 He's Yeah, she. Knows, she knows. 1365 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,560 You. Well, I'm glad you said that. 1366 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:02,760 Yeah. Yes, yes. 1367 01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:10,960 I too am going to 2nd that in a. Good way so. 1368 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,280 And one follow up, in terms of community, there's also the 1369 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,240 community of husbands. So you know. 1370 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,960 You know. My wife introduced me to another 1371 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,760 podcast of similar husbands and you know, I think I don't know 1372 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,600 if you had said it, but like there's always still like a self 1373 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,080 doubt about like, why do I like this? 1374 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,960 Like am I wired this way? And to meet other gentlemen who 1375 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,720 who are wired that way was really helpful. 1376 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,440 So this community, and I know she also has a community of 1377 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,120 sisters that they chat and I think that's the part that I 1378 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:47,560 really like about this lifestyle. 1379 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,120 It's just a community around helping each other. 1380 01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:52,040 Absolutely. So I quickly want to go into the 1381 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,400 Wired. Real and I know this is the 1382 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,240 things about community and at the end of the day, the 1383 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,600 community does make us feel better about how we are all 1384 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,000 wired. I think The thing is, it's not 1385 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,160 about how we are wired, is the fact that we're telling the 1386 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:09,960 truth about the way we're wired, where more people are wired the 1387 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,040 exact same way. Because if we do look at 1388 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,440 history, we understand that 200 years ago the way people live 1389 01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:18,760 life and 200 years before that and two years before that was a 1390 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,280 lot more honest because there weren't very many people around. 1391 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,080 It was literally just their small community as far back as 1392 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,600 you go as far back. As you can go now we're in a 1393 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,040 situation. To where we are all 1394 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,040 interconnected by something they call the Internet. 1395 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,440 So now we're realizing that we're living in bigger tribes 1396 01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,640 and villages and States and whatever than ever before. 1397 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,880 So instead they're the perception of how people should 1398 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,400 live versus how they actually live. 1399 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,720 And then it's always a shocker when you find out, Oh my God, 1400 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,440 this senator's wife likes to get fucked by black guys. 1401 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,000 And it's like, oh, we're so surprised, like. 1402 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,480 And we? Even play it out in our normal 1403 01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:00,480 lives, right? Like it's that aspect of it, the 1404 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,400 fact that we understand because we actually live it, but we're 1405 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,720 just being honest about it and we get to be honest in this 1406 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,400 community about it and feel as if we're not judged. 1407 01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:12,480 I'm a person who my mother knows that I do things like this 1408 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,760 because I just don't care, right? 1409 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,160 I'm using my real name. Andre is saying, I'm not going 1410 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,200 to say my last name, but like at the end of the day, I don't have 1411 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,200 a problem with who I actually AM. 1412 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,000 And I understand that. I'm also in a position to feel 1413 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,400 that way because of what I do for a living and who I am and 1414 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,440 how I live my normal life. If I was in a different 1415 01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:35,240 situation, if I was staying in DC where I'm from, and I would 1416 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,640 have done the government job, then maybe I wouldn't have been 1417 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,040 in the position to be able to say what I feel and about life 1418 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,920 and be able to give out these information of details. 1419 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,360 We are. It's not that we're wired wrong. 1420 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,840 It's we're wired to then be honest about how we feel and 1421 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,640 then found people in our lives that will also be honest about 1422 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,520 that and that we found a community that we can have those 1423 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,760 experiences with. Yeah, I mean we and this. 1424 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,640 Is we are wirely absolutely correctly, I think no me and Mr. 1425 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,400 Minx we when we get into our nerd sessions and we start 1426 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,200 talking about psychology and start looking at different 1427 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,200 things human behavior, you start understand like even in the 1428 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,200 concept of cuckolding. One of the things that entertain 1429 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:20,240 me to to no end is the percentage of people who are non 1430 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:26,480 lifestyle when they do like parent gene testing, they 1431 01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:30,360 usually use like what is it like Norwegian people? 1432 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:36,280 Because throughout the rest of society, the amount of when men 1433 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:41,440 who are raising somebody else's child who had no idea is huge. 1434 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,760 Like I think it was like over 35% or something like that of 1435 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:50,520 who never know. So the things that we openly 1436 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:56,760 speak about and we openly do, like it's so natural that it's 1437 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,000 it's mind boggling. So I think that's probably one 1438 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,840 of my favorite things when we're talking to people and we start 1439 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,120 having that because that's the biggest conversation I have with 1440 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,880 husbands. Every Hut stag, big stag 1441 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,280 husbands, cut husband, hot wife husbands. 1442 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,680 And I'm very much a hybrid. Like, I love watching my wife 1443 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:18,000 get fucked, no question. Like everybody knows. 1444 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,280 I make no secret of it. My wife's getting fucked 1445 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,040 downstairs. I got a vent under the kitchen 1446 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,280 table. It's very inconvenient. 1447 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,360 Very inconvenient. But I like to get down there and 1448 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,920 listen to it. Or you just wait outside. 1449 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,160 I'll stand. Outside the door. 1450 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,440 Like my friends, like people who know that they're like, dude, 1451 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:38,080 how are you you and like that don't bother you because I'm 1452 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,280 fucking me and it don't bother me. 1453 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,800 Like, I like it. Like it's, I'm not going to 1454 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:49,160 psychoanalyze why the things that was done in the Bible like 1455 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:54,760 this, the Bible speaks of this. I mean, the, the Roman Empire, 1456 01:18:54,760 --> 01:19:00,520 every, every piece of history that we can find speaks of this. 1457 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:06,240 So it feels like, I mean, it's not like an anomaly. 1458 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,720 We're just honest about it. So for me, I don't like when 1459 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,320 I'll analyze why I like something. 1460 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:15,160 Usually people will spend years in the lifestyle fighting their 1461 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,400 desires. They will spend years within the 1462 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,760 lifestyle fighting their desires. 1463 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,120 And the good thing about community is you can talk to 1464 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,040 him, he can talk to him, you can talk. 1465 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,240 And then all of a sudden we realize, wait, we all do the 1466 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,400 same shit. Like this is not weird. 1467 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,440 Like I, I might, my wife is, was a school teacher and she thinks 1468 01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:36,200 like this. You know, you have people in law 1469 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,560 enforcement, you have people in government. 1470 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,200 There's literally people like that. 1471 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,160 I know who are in the government. 1472 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,560 Government, they're, they're very private about it, but 1473 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,480 they're this is what they do. So I think community helps us 1474 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,720 remove the poison in our head. In the concept of going to war 1475 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,040 with yourself, do you realize how miserable you are when 1476 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,440 you're forced to go to war with your own desires? 1477 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,200 The world kicks my ass every day and I'm at home going. 1478 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,880 Oh my God, why am I turned on when some dude is fucking my 1479 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,480 wife? Man, I feel man, I'm a fucking 1480 01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:22,320 weirdo and I'm at home. I'm turned on like no conflict. 1481 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,800 I mean, now my kids might give me conflict, my wife might give 1482 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,840 me conflict, but I'm going to tell you one person that's not 1483 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,000 going to give me conflict, Not this guy. 1484 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,720 The only thing that I want to be able to do and I've done over 1485 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:39,560 the years as I talked to other guys and other couples and women 1486 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,440 and start listening to the things that they're into and all 1487 01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:52,880 of a sudden it's more enjoyable because I can sit back and bask. 1488 01:20:53,480 --> 01:20:55,040 Even the things that I'm not into. 1489 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,520 I can bask in the fact that you like something I don't like and 1490 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,800 I don't judge you for it. That's what the community does. 1491 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,480 Again, it goes back to. Like what you were just saying, 1492 01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:11,080 it goes back to what you have always you're, you're, I mean, 1493 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,720 the lifestyle community as big as what we think it is, it's 1494 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:20,360 still very small in comparison to the world and even this 1495 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,240 country. So you are always this always a 1496 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:28,080 battle of what we'd like is going to be different from what 1497 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,560 society sees and is telling us is wrong. 1498 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,200 Because again, you've been taught from from from the time 1499 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,000 you were able to walk that monogamy is the way. 1500 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,720 This is what you should be doing. 1501 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,200 This is everything is planned out for you. 1502 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,360 So when you deviate from that again, it's like. 1503 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,400 We feel that there may be. Something wrong with the way we 1504 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,760 think and how the middle society. 1505 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:59,320 The most commonly talked about thing is us when we were 1506 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,360 younger, finding our dad's porn collection, you know, our 1507 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,440 uncle's porn collection. Like it's the porn industry is a 1508 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,600 bill. It's it's $1,000,000 documented, 1509 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,760 documented, not the undocumented shit, like who's buying this 1510 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,520 shit? Like just us. 1511 01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:24,640 No, you know, so that to me is the the thing that is the beauty 1512 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,360 of us being able to enjoy what we enjoy the way we enjoy it. 1513 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,840 And that's the thing like the community to me constantly 1514 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:40,800 encourages us as a community to not get hung up on the why do I 1515 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,680 like as opposed to let me find other like minded. 1516 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,240 Let me encourage, you know, I like this environment. 1517 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:53,160 My wife, his wife are very have always been very, very strong 1518 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,000 advocates for giving women the freedom that we as men have. 1519 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,960 You know, I remember in the very beginning when they first 1520 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:05,280 started to use the defer the term slut sister and slut tribe 1521 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,240 and things like that, it was them saying, hey, this is a 1522 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,480 word. They use that word. 1523 01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:15,800 And the reason they did is because my wife's thing was if a 1524 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,000 dude calls a dude a slut, what do we do? 1525 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,280 We laugh. Yeah, it was a fist bump, dude. 1526 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:28,560 Like, bro, you're a slut. We laugh, but if a woman gets 1527 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,560 called a slut, there's a whole lot of Oh well, it's not what 1528 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:33,240 you and. There's a lot to. 1529 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:37,160 Defend him. My wife was like, fuck that, why 1530 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,240 can't I have it? That's how that began with her. 1531 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,000 The concept of why should I be ashamed of doing something that 1532 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,840 you can do the crazy thing about it too. 1533 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:49,960 Though is is. You we may applaud. 1534 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:54,960 Another dude for his sex sexual exploitations and especially 1535 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,120 before they got into the to the lifestyle but and she's labeled 1536 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,960 as a slut or whore and it's negative but who the fuck are 1537 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,880 they fucking who are? They doing those sexual exploits 1538 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,640 with. You know, I mean, so, so we're, 1539 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,520 we're celebrated because of our sexual conquest, but she's 1540 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,800 demeaned because of hers. But again, who the fuck are? 1541 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,840 Who are the guys having sex with and that? 1542 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,680 Was that's one of my favorite things about it. 1543 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,120 Cutie, before we wrap it up, is there any other couples who like 1544 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,600 to speak? I see you guys are smiling back 1545 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,000 there. You're welcome to speak. 1546 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,080 I love the. International flavor too, 1547 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,320 because we got, we got London here, we got Italy there, you 1548 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,520 know, it's, it's a, it's a worldwide community, you know. 1549 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,000 Sometimes I'd like to talk. One of these days I'd like to 1550 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,280 talk about being the wife of. A bull that's. 1551 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,720 That's a totally different kind of life in most wives that are 1552 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:56,080 in the lifestyle that most wives that are here and very 1553 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,120 interesting thing that you have to. 1554 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,920 Navigate. Yeah, being a wife who is 1555 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,240 married to a bull, Very nice, very nice. 1556 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,040 You have to meet my wife because that's that's us. 1557 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,640 I'd like to talk to her. That that. 1558 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,080 Is us, I'd like. To talk to her, very. 1559 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,240 Good topic, yeah. And that and so. 1560 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,360 One of the big reasons that I did speak on community today is 1561 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,840 like a lot of us, a lot of the guys have been having, we've had 1562 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:23,240 a lot of conversation about the fact that after all the years 1563 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,440 and the stuff that we've learned and the things that we've 1564 01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:28,200 experienced like my wife and I within our small community, 1565 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,360 we're constantly talking to people. 1566 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,400 We have people e-mail us, call us, talk to us. 1567 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,120 The reason we originally started a podcast was to, to offer 1568 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:39,400 assistance, but there's a lot of other people who have 1569 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:45,840 experiences who can actually help when it comes to creating 1570 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,760 quality guys. And my, my challenge has always 1571 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,560 been when it comes to guys. I always say when you're 1572 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:58,040 mentoring guys, a woman cannot mentor a guy by telling him how 1573 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,880 to be a guy. However, female interaction is 1574 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:06,000 everything. So me talking to you and a guy, 1575 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,880 hearing our feedback, hearing our feedback, hearing the 1576 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:14,040 feedback with women, them being able to watch the way the male 1577 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,720 female interaction works is how we learn. 1578 01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:23,640 And then having guys who's gone through it, who's experienced 1579 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,840 it. Because a lot of us as men, we 1580 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:32,880 get, we become better men from our wives, our wives make us. 1581 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,920 Because before there was my wife, it was, I was this guy 1582 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,640 after my wife, my sisters. And everybody's like, man, she's 1583 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,320 made you much better personally. What the fuck does that mean? 1584 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,720 I know what it means. But she, she, she got rid of 1585 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,080 those, some of those edges. She, she changed a lot of 1586 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,000 perspectives that somebody else couldn't change. 1587 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,680 So now the difference with us experienced men, Mr. Minx, who 1588 01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,400 you know, all of the guys who have these conversations and we 1589 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,280 learn that we have to navigate the world differently with our 1590 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,760 wives in the lifestyle. Your knowledge, your knowledge, 1591 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,600 your knowledge is power. If you want to teach guys how to 1592 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,680 navigate the lifestyle and be better, better men. 1593 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,960 And then on the opposite side of that is the guys we train, the 1594 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,560 couples we play with, we train the couples we play with by 1595 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,200 being honest and saying, Hey, I know I'm a very direct human, so 1596 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,520 I don't usually have an issue with it. 1597 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:32,520 But I always say, oftentimes couples make bad bulls and bad 1598 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:38,480 bulls mess up good couples, you know, because you have this 1599 01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:42,320 couple who will tell this guy, well, if you're going to be in 1600 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,760 my life and our lives got to do this, this, this and this. 1601 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,760 And then he goes other couples and they're like, dude, I've 1602 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,560 been that guy. Like, bro, first of all, calm 1603 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,640 down. You don't own my wife. 1604 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,760 We don't play that game. You, you don't own my wife. 1605 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,840 You can't get my wife commands or demands. 1606 01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,800 It doesn't work that way because he didn't come to me first and 1607 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,120 see what the rules were as opposed to couples who are like, 1608 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,280 Hey, this is what we want. And so that's where the 1609 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:11,320 education when we're talking, if this is our title, but this is 1610 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,200 our fingerprint, this is what we like. 1611 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,680 And then me being able to have a conversation with you and this 1612 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,560 guy going, oh, that's a hell of a perspective talking to you, 1613 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,800 man, That's a hell of a perspective. 1614 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,640 Women, the interact, interaction with women is with trained guys 1615 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,000 and guys by talking trained guys. 1616 01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:33,840 And so going forward, that's one of the things that we want to 1617 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,560 try to do is have more female interaction. 1618 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,600 We've got a female therapist who's going to jump in and start 1619 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,000 talking, you know, a very emotionally mature woman who's 1620 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,960 in the lifestyle, who's active in the lifestyle. 1621 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,360 We've got a psychiatrist who's in the lifestyle. 1622 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,360 And my favorite thing about her was this. 1623 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,920 You'd never know she was a psychiatrist if you saw her in 1624 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:01,080 this environment. She's a dirty. 1625 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,520 But. That is to me the pitted me a 1626 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,600 female power within a lifestyle because you have a lot of the 1627 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,000 ladies in the lifestyle who they're still stuck with this 1628 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,360 social norms. I've got to prove you I'm smart. 1629 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,000 I'm really smart. I've got a degree in this way. 1630 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,640 Hey, if you have to throw that at me in a place where you're 1631 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,360 trying to be fuckable, you're still fighting yourself because 1632 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,840 dudes don't have to do that. Most of the guys who come in 1633 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,920 here. You have no idea how much money 1634 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,960 they make, what kind of career they have. 1635 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,760 I'm talking to a guy out there who's a physician. 1636 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,040 You would have never known because society doesn't make us 1637 01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:46,400 make you see our brain first. My wife, her joke is people 1638 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,200 think I'm dumb as shit. My wife is very smart. 1639 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,680 She does a job that's way smarter than mine. 1640 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,000 But here she's like, I'm much, much rather. 1641 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,480 People think I'm dumb then people guess what I do because 1642 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,400 I'm trying so hard for them to see me as something different. 1643 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,160 That doesn't mean that you want to be objectified because we 1644 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:10,000 always want to be humanized. But society's forcing you to 1645 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,680 prove that I'm not this. Well, this ain't the 1646 01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,960 environment, you know, I don't have to prove that I can play 1647 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,960 hockey when I'm at the beach. I can ice skate. 1648 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,120 Great talk to me in the winter time. 1649 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,360 So that's kind of the things that one of the things that I'm 1650 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,360 looking forward to more. And after we get out of here, I 1651 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,600 would love anyone here, the ladies and the gentlemen, the 1652 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,360 husbands, the bulls, the single guys who are willing to jump 1653 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:42,120 into the podcast and interact and partake, you know, share 1654 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,880 just a piece of your experiences, yourself, your 1655 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:50,640 thoughts, because the collection of those thoughts, we'll start 1656 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:55,120 creating a blueprint for guys from the female perspective. 1657 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,280 Super important. And then husbands, when we get 1658 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,440 on there and we talk about would I what who am I as a stag? 1659 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,640 Who am I as a cook? Who am I as a for me, like I 1660 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,840 said, I'm a hybrid. I'm kind of I'm a whatever. 1661 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,880 Feels good type. Of person like I don't have a 1662 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,040 it's, it feels right right now. That's who I am, you know, I 1663 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,320 mean, and that to me is was my ultimate goal, not to be hung up 1664 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,680 somewhere and not doing the thing, not because I didn't want 1665 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,840 to do it, but because I'm like, man, Craig might judge me if he 1666 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,680 finds out that I let my wife or Craig might judge me if he finds 1667 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,040 out that I'd be listening to the floor under the table. 1668 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:44,160 You know, once I got past that thing, I feel like to me, I I 1669 01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:48,840 stepped to a different level and my goal is to put everybody to 1670 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,000 to give everybody a path to that comfort. 1671 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:57,040 So before we close it out, I'm a pass it to the guys to tell them 1672 01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,560 where Mr. Minx for sure. Is he one of he he is. 1673 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,240 He is my sound, one of my sounding boards. 1674 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,200 When somebody says I've been a Dick, I call him because he'll 1675 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:15,800 tell me if I was, if I'm trying to get some emotional, if I have 1676 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,800 a question like my wife is like, hey, you're too hard about this 1677 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:23,160 subject, I'll call him because my friends have no mercy on me 1678 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,560 at all whatsoever because of how I am. 1679 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,400 The guys who I deal with, there is no mercy, no time out. 1680 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:33,560 They're going to be direct. And I've always said if I have 1681 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:37,120 friends who aren't on my wife's side, they're not my fucking 1682 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,840 friends. And if all of my wife's friends 1683 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,640 are on her side, they're not her friends, you know? 1684 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:48,360 So most of our friends, my guys would be like you being a bit of 1685 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:49,560 a Dick and I'll go back to my wife. 1686 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,760 Like apparently I'll be. I'm sorry. 1687 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,280 You know, Mr. Mix. Yeah. 1688 01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,080 I. I'm on X Chris Minx 23 if you're 1689 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,120 on that Instagram me everywhere you can find me Chris Minx 23 1690 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:09,160 and your guest appearances frequently on O Face podcast. 1691 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:11,440 I want another. Of these things. 1692 01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:16,360 You guys have fun. You you you'll be able to get 1693 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,360 with him because when if you e-mail in and and have questions 1694 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,720 for Andre, I'll I'll get him in touch. 1695 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,640 He's going to be he does mentoring here accidentally. 1696 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,080 I get pulled into. Everything he gets. 1697 01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,160 He gets pulled. Into things he has trouble 1698 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:33,160 saying no. Yes. 1699 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,960 Yes, you see, I just said yes, Yeah, see and he has no problem. 1700 01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:43,320 He has no problem stepping up and just kind of we have this 1701 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,000 thing, we're do the right thing. Yep, You know, So that's why 1702 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,080 he's off and in. And obviously Mister East Coast 1703 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:57,800 here is on almost. Everything I am miss MISSDA East 1704 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,080 Coast only fans is the only thing that's different. 1705 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,040 That's I'm Craig McKinney. But hey, I just want to make a 1706 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,560 little observation. Just want to make a little 1707 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:13,240 observation, man. I, this dude I love, he's a good 1708 01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,920 dude. But we going to have to find a 1709 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,600 way to get you some bigger T-shirts, man. 1710 01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:18,880 Absolutely not this motherfucker. 1711 01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:20,640 Look at this shit. Fucking Arnold. 1712 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,400 Arnold Schwarzenegger walking around this joint with you. 1713 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:31,440 Can't see my heart. I mean, you either got to. 1714 01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:33,720 Stop lifting or get some bigger shirts man. 1715 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,520 If the sneeze don't threaten busting. 1716 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:44,360 The stitch it is too loose and candy liquor. 1717 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,880 I forget that I make sure I get the right name. 1718 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:53,600 One of my favorite things is the questions that he asked and the, 1719 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:58,280 the honesty, the emotional part, because he asked questions and 1720 01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,640 he asked me questions and, and I challenge him, but he asked me 1721 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:06,640 questions and bring up things that makes me think, you know, 1722 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,960 as dudes, we're you, we're taught to shove that shit down, 1723 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,560 you know, you know, are you feeling some kind of emotionally 1724 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,360 deal with it? The one thing I like about him 1725 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,400 is he just kind of exposes it. He strips it. 1726 01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:23,240 You know, there is no, there's no question that he won't ask or 1727 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:27,080 no emotional challenge that he won't present. 1728 01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,800 And a lot of those things are things that we as dudes don't 1729 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,840 really say out loud because it's just not who we are. 1730 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,520 We have this female conversation about old ladies. 1731 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,560 You know, you got to learn to get rid of societal norms. 1732 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,320 And then, you know, as soon as we wind up in a situation, you 1733 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,760 know, we resort to being fucking Neanderthals because we're 1734 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,000 supposed to be, oh, that's fine, just walking off. 1735 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,640 No. So candy liquor, I'm going to 1736 01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,720 call you Co because I'm I'm going to call you COI feel so 1737 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,280 dirty Every time I say candy liquor, he does it. 1738 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:08,120 But I want to find candy though. You want my you want to find 1739 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:09,120 candy. Look at that. 1740 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,640 I give great tongue massages. I'm, I'm sorry, that's just my 1741 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,880 my, my, my Forte. I'm on a splash mocha site and 1742 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,920 I'm at every splash. I'm just a human being. 1743 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,000 I'm vulnerable, I'm scared, I'm honest. 1744 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,840 I'm open, I'm everything and I challenge all the guys out there 1745 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,280 and all the couples. Be vulnerable. 1746 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,640 You have nothing to lose. There's, I've been there 1747 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,720 probably what, 18 splashes? There's probably thousands of 1748 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:43,760 couples that I have not seen. Naked or I. 1749 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,800 Shouldn't say I've seen them naked, I just haven't been in 1750 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,080 them while they were naked, but they. 1751 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,200 Still treat me like a. Human being, we still can have a 1752 01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,360 conversation, we still know each other and it's fun. 1753 01:36:56,440 --> 01:37:00,200 It's great. But yes, I am human and 1754 01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,160 vulnerable. And even if some of the couples 1755 01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:04,320 will tell you the same thing, I open up to them too. 1756 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,560 I have No Fear. So enjoy and thanks for coming. 1757 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,720 Thank you guys for joining us. And like I said, I'm definitely 1758 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,480 going to, we're definitely going to be be talking and chatting. 1759 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,600 I'm going to hopefully get the chat with everybody else who's 1760 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,920 here, you know, because we, we love the different perspective 1761 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,800 and we want to invite you guys to, to, you know, be a part of 1762 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,440 us in the future. So until next time and come by 1763 01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:32,040 the dungeon. Yeah, swing by. 1764 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,880 Come and see me in the dungeon. 10:00 He's good. 1765 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:37,520 Take a peek. Go. 1766 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,520 Experience it. You know, he'll flog your wife a 1767 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,800 little bit. You know, he'll give her the 1768 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,760 flogging that you've been willing to give her for years. 1769 01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:44,640 I'm joking. I'm joking. 1770 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,520 All right, guys, thank you so much. 1771 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,680 And until next time, we'll see you on the next episode, Old 1772 01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:51,080 Faces.