1 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:12,800 Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces. 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,160 We're your host, Mr. And. Misses Mocha. 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,080 You think you really went into that too fast? 4 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:24,960 I like that song a lot. I mean I can put it back on for. 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,960 You that's OK, you listen to it later. 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,160 OK, OK, hello. I feel. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,640 Like that was the fastest like intro ever though. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,360 Yeah, that was pretty quick were. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,640 You trying to get it over? Try to try to get it done. 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Your DJ skills are declining. I work on it. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,960 I work on it because. We haven't done the podcast in 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,920 so long. Topic today something that's, 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,160 you know, you're a professional man just doing whatever the fuck 14 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:52,640 you want to do. So how do you get comfortable 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,600 being yourself in the lifestyle you know? 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,080 I mean, like you said, no, no shame in your lifestyle game. 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,760 I think a lot of people get cliquey, like they get they get 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,640 around other people and then it becomes cliquish, you know what 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,720 I mean? And they think like it's just 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,800 like high school, like you feel like, Oh well, I'm friends with 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,920 like the jocks and the cheerleaders. 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,400 So I have to have this like certain persona. 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,440 So I think other they let other lifestylers influence the way 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,880 that they lifestyle or because Joe Blow said that this is the 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,600 only way you can lifestyle, then that's what people do. 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,160 They're like, oh, well, no, I mean, so and so told me that I 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,680 think some people are open minded to doing it, but not 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 completely open. Like we're not going to 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,280 completely explore our sexual fantasies. 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,280 We're just going to do these ones that our friends are 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,200 comfortable with and around. Because I really do think it 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,160 comes down to like influence, like who you're around, who 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,720 influences you. I definitely agree with that. 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,360 I mean, I think that's something that we've seen even when we 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,680 first got the when we first got into the lifestyle together, I 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,920 remember being on a lake and, you know, one group of people 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,400 saying, hey, if you play with that group of people, we won't 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,760 play with you because you know that that group of people, 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,640 they're just, I mean, they just, they're just too promiscuous and 40 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:20,000 we're not, you know, so. Cool, we're all out here fucking 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,320 bro buddy. Yeah, but it was interesting. 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,280 How many people, how many people did you know, fall into that? 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,080 Yeah, how many people would actually? 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,480 But we've never let people dictate what we're going to do. 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,040 I mean like you and I, or just you by yourself? 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,760 I think who I think the people that you're around and the group 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:50,160 that you're with often time influences the way you the way 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,080 you lack lifestyle. So and I think that people get 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,680 stuck in their groups. So they may have gotten to a 50 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,480 point where they want to do something different, but they 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,600 don't want to. Tell the group that they're 52 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:07,760 going to do branch out into BBC or like I mean there's people 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,320 that go to splash mocha and they won't say that they're they're 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,800 going to splash mocha that to other lifestyle people and that 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,280 blows my fucking mind I. Mean remember, we at our 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,200 parties, we had lots of people who. 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,200 I know that, I'm just saying it initially. 58 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,680 It blows my mind and I think it's because we've always been. 59 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,400 You have let me be completely wide open as far as certain 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,720 things just don't touch your ass, right? 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,640 Yeah, Yeah. I appreciate that. 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Appreciate that. So, so that being said, the 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,920 question is this like what, what do you say to people because 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,160 what do you say to people who are in a group? 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,240 And I understand it because we've had the, the conversation 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,040 before. Humans are, we're social 67 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,800 creatures. So if we have a group of people 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,880 who are, are our friends, we are concerned about what they think 69 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,520 and what they feel about the things that we do. 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,240 You know, we see it all the, all of the time. 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,720 We're within the lifestyle. You level up or you change, you 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 adjust. You know, so people who are 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,440 going from saw swappers to full swapping, but they have a so 74 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,600 they're around a circle of people who are only saw 75 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,640 swappers. They keep a secret from those 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,960 people for so long. Again, I think it's just because 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,360 people don't accept it just like it's not really like super 78 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,360 acceptable and like regular. I don't I don't even want to say 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,680 regular, but swinger parties, like if you're by mail, that's 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,320 like to taboo. So I think that's where some 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,160 people just need to branch off and find their taboo friends 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,320 because I got all kinds of fucked up. 83 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:46,160 Well, I don't want to say fucked up. 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,640 You know I don't want. It all kinds of taboo fantasies 85 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,160 that, you know, my friend may not like this or may not like 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,040 that, but if they're my friend, then they know that I'm going to 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,360 do what I want to do. But some people, Oh well, I 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,840 started with my friend. Sorry guys, my microphone is 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,520 being stupid. I started with, you know, my 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,400 friend, this friend or whatever, and we kind of evolved out of 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,600 that. So I couldn't be friends with 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,560 that person anymore because they didn't like what I did, which is 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,000 silly. But again, it's just like 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,480 back-to-back to high school shit. 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,200 And it's something that happens often. 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,360 Unfortunate lifestyle. I mean, we yeah. 97 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:30,760 I mean, we've heard our friends, we've heard our own friends talk 98 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,440 about different people are like, Oh, well, you know, we don't, 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760 you know, we don't like playing with them because they play with 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,800 these people or because, you know, they play this way or, and 101 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,960 it's, it's always blowing my mind that you will get into a, 102 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,440 you will get into the lifestyle, which is already something 103 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,120 that's outside of the societal norms, and then you will let 104 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 people around you. Dictate what it's like, what's 105 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,520 OK and what's not OK for you. It's your fucking private part. 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Do you think are your vagina or you know, your ass or whatever. 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,880 You do what you want to do with those things. 108 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Just like nobody controls the thoughts that you have in your 109 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,600 head. I mean shit, if I told everybody 110 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,240 every thought I had in my head, it would probably be a scary 111 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,120 time. No, they wouldn't be surprised. 112 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,080 They know that you're a fucking perv, you know, But I mean, it's 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,040 the though, I think the whole point of the lifestyle is to be 114 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,200 what society believes to be sexual deviants, you know? 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,640 So like I said, I don't, I don't want to. 116 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,200 I wouldn't want to be in a lifestyle where I'm worried 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,600 about people outside of the lifestyle judging me. 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,280 And then you get into the lifestyle and you're worried 119 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:42,040 about people inside the lifestyle judging you. 120 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,160 But. It happens every day. 121 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,440 Every day. There's, there's plenty of 122 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,960 groups and plenty of cliques and whatever. 123 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,400 And I feel like we've just become a part of all of them. 124 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,480 But everybody just kind of knows what we are, what, what we do. 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:00,400 But there's, I'm sorry, there's also, you know, the people that 126 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,600 have said to us like at parties, like, Oh, I can't fuck you after 127 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,600 Mr. Moko, you know, I can't go after that or whatever, or white 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,880 guys that won't play with me because they think that I just 129 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,160 fucked Mandingo Dicks and they're for some reason that's 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,600 bothers them, which is fine. That's not, I mean, I'm not 131 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,880 going to force anyone to fuck me. 132 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,200 But if I'm telling you I like you and I want to fuck you, then 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,440 what should it matter about so and so's Dick from six years 134 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,400 ago? You know, hopefully she's went 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,200 back to where she's supposed to go at that point or there's a 136 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,600 problem. Yeah. 137 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,640 So I mean, just like, you know, fisting isn't my thing. 138 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,880 We're just gonna go to extremes here. 139 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Fisting isn't my thing. But if that's your fucking 140 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,160 thing, do it. Yeah. 141 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,560 Fucking get fisted all day long. Yeah, you know. 142 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,400 I mean, there I definitely think having a space to having a space 143 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,440 and a lifestyle to be comfortable with yourself. 144 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Yeah. And just keep it in mind, like I 145 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,480 was speaking to our friends last week to to people who are 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,560 outside the lifestyle. What we do is already is 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,400 extremely wild. Even that even soft swapping is 148 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,400 crazy to, to people. You know, you'll see people who 149 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,800 think that how many people have we met who are vanilla and they 150 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,680 don't know where their lifestyle and they're talking and they 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,320 tell us about this one time when they had a wild trip to Vegas 152 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,240 where they made out with another girl. 153 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,720 It's like, oh, oh shit. That's like that movie Meet the 154 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Millers, where they they take him to the tent and they're 155 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:37,880 remember the the guy like ear fucks. 156 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Him and he's like that's. So fucking hot. 157 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:46,440 Yeah, but again, like what? You may be Wilder than us 'cause 158 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Mr. Mocha and I like have hard nosed and like things that we 159 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,720 won't do. But again, that's not we. 160 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,560 We still acceptable. I mean, we're not gonna say, oh, 161 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:58,040 we're not gonna play with you. I mean, to me it's as simple as 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,560 these are my boundaries. As long as you respect those, 163 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,400 then I'm comfortable with who you are and what you are. 164 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Just like I had to tell someone at a party that you know, just 165 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,560 because somebody's bi doesn't mean they're automatically going 166 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:15,400 to come fuck you or try to fuck you. 167 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,520 No, you may be a hot dude, but there's you walk into a gym, 168 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,640 there might be a million bad guys in there. 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,800 So all those guys are automatically trying to fuck 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,760 you. No, they're absolute fucking 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,440 lutely. Not yeah, Yeah, that's 172 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,120 incredibly. Yeah, so, you know, you don't 173 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,480 want to think that, you know, think outside the box just 174 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,200 because that person is a sexual sadist, likes to legs pain or 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,520 I'm going to extremes here and they're running completely 176 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,640 extreme. But so and so likes to get 177 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,840 pegged by their girlfriend or whatever the case may be. 178 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,760 That doesn't mean that they're coming into a party with a 179 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,000 fucking strap on on and they're going to fuck everyone there. 180 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,760 It's not going to happen to you. That old Eddie Murphy's kids say 181 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,520 boy, look mighty good in them jeans. 182 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Come on over here and let me fucking ass. 183 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,440 Yeah, No, I mean, I, I definitely think, you know, for 184 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,560 for us, and I think that's the thing, what we consider extreme 185 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,160 and with the next person considered extreme is completely 186 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,040 different. There are some people who 187 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:25,840 consider extreme simply having intercourse with someone else's 188 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,840 mate. Like that's wild. 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,320 Oh my God, I can't believe you do that, you know. 190 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,400 So I think once you step into the lifestyle, I think that 191 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,400 having a, an open minded understanding that you have, you 192 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,880 have it two ways. Either a, the people who are 193 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,480 around you can be honest and say, these are the things that 194 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,440 we're into, but we respect your boundaries, or they can just 195 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,880 fucking lie to you. Because that's usually what 196 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,560 happens is, you know, the same group of people who you've known 197 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:58,080 for the last five years. You don't know that they're into 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,520 some other stuff. The only thing that means is 199 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,720 that you, they view you as so close minded that they're not 200 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,480 comfortable telling you what they're into. 201 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,640 So they just hide it from you. Like they hide the fact that 202 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,480 there's a lifestyle from their parents, right. 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,840 You know, so I think that's, that's really just your only 204 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,480 choice once you get into the lifestyle. 205 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Yeah. Like you think that, you know, 206 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,080 as people evolve, if you, if you know people who've been really 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,640 in a lifestyle for multiple years and they're in the exact 208 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,240 same place doing exact same things that they were doing when 209 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,280 you first met them, that means they're just not telling you. 210 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,720 More than likely, they're just not telling you. 211 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,960 Well, I mean also too, I think there's like etiquette in 212 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,680 certain places, like there's certain things that just aren't 213 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,320 accepted in certain places. If you're just that like AII 214 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,520 don't know if if you're at a there, there are just certain 215 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,120 things. If you were at a, what are those 216 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,120 things called? The furry thing that we were 217 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,440 talking. About Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 218 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Like anybody can go into there and I'm sure none of those 219 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,120 people give a fuck, which are if you just came regular there, 220 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,240 they're living their best life doing their own thing. 221 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,480 But I feel like sometimes, and I'm not knock knocking, just 222 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,720 like swinger couple parties, but there are some like let's say 223 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,160 like hotel events, hotel takeovers, stuff like that, that 224 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,080 things aren't accepted there or somebody might side eye you or 225 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,680 like give you a dirty look because you did something that 226 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,320 was not just swinging at a party. 227 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,920 I mean swinging, just couple swapping or soft swapping or you 228 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,720 know, stuff like that. I mean, there those are things 229 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,720 that people do behind closed doors, but I just don't think 230 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,560 that's something you should be ashamed of. 231 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Yeah. I don't. 232 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,600 I think you should just be able to say or do what you want to 233 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,440 do. I mean, like, do you know many 234 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,560 people or I can't say how many people, but there are several 235 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,720 times that I get side eyes from gangbangs. 236 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,120 I like gangbangs. I don't care if you like a 237 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,760 gangbang, I'm not going to make you jump it. 238 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Sorry, my phone just went off. Yeah. 239 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,120 Are we still basically, you know, like I would get as you 240 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,560 know, side eye from people because I like multiple men at a 241 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,240 time. But I I really do. 242 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,200 And I've said it like 1000 times, group things are my 243 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,360 thing. I do like. 244 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,200 Yeah, you've also not really giving a shit, which is, which 245 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,760 is I think 1 to think the coolest things about Mrs. Mocha 246 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,080 is that throughout the years I've seen her tell, I've seen 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,720 her tell women that she was into, oh, I want to get a 248 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,440 gangbang. I want to do she'll say all of 249 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,960 this wall shit and these women will either give her the side 250 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,080 eye or tell her, Oh my God, I would never do that. 251 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,480 That right there is crazy. That's too wild for me. 252 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,840 And then six months later, you know, they're here in the 253 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,400 basement with her sharing 4 Dicks, you know, which is, you 254 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,240 know, credit to Misses Mocha for not allowing somebody to, to, to 255 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,560 say something, you know, her say, oh, I like this and someone 256 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:59,080 go, that's too wild. And she doesn't go, oh, I'm just 257 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,480 joking. Or she doesn't back off. 258 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,440 She just, she continues to be who she is. 259 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:16,200 That is because that that opens up that opens up the that that 260 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:22,040 gives other people that space to say, OK, it is OK, you know, and 261 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,120 then also, but. Who's to say again, like not to 262 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,160 be on a soapbox today, but who's to say it's not OK? 263 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Like who's telling you that it's not OK? 264 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Is your husband telling you it's not OK? 265 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Is your wife telling you not? Is it? 266 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Is it just your rules and your dynamics? 267 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,160 Like that's fine, but like I said, even from the beginning, 268 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,200 Mr. Mocha got me because he started off with fantasies in 269 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,040 our bedroom. We were fucking each other, but 270 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,720 it was talking through fantasies in our bedroom. 271 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,360 And I can say we've pretty much, we haven't went through all of 272 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,640 them, but there's been a good amount of fantasies that we've 273 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,320 talked about while we're fucking each other that we've actually 274 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,280 done, you know, like we've ended up later. 275 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,120 I mean, some of them taking years. 276 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,200 Like even I know on our last episode that Mister Mocha 277 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:20,720 deleted that we just talked about, you know, like we've kind 278 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,360 of evolved ourselves. Like I even during like my 279 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,960 downtime told Mr. Mocha like I'll be a little vulnerable on 280 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,480 here. But I told him that I didn't 281 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,760 feel it because I was sick. I didn't feel like I could 282 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,200 sexually satisfy him anymore and that maybe he should just find a 283 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,200 girlfriend, which I never in our whole relationship ever thought 284 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,320 I would tell him. Like maybe that's what he needs. 285 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,360 But I mean, I thought maybe he needed a girlfriend because I 286 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,920 didn't like to. I didn't like the fact that I 287 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,000 couldn't sexually satisfy him. So I wanted him to have someone 288 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,920 that at that moment could sexually satisfy him. 289 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:06,520 And for me it was. I think for me, it's always, 290 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,600 it's always exciting to see her push her boundaries. 291 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,480 That's what I've always liked. Because you know, from my 292 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,120 standpoint, me, I've said this before, when Missus Moke and I 293 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,360 first got together, I always felt like I wanted her to 294 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,760 experience everything that I'd experienced just because I had, 295 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,720 I had been single longer than Mr. Mocha had been single 296 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,960 between our marriages. And I, you know, had the 297 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,080 opportunity at a time to experience a lot of stuff. 298 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,520 And I always said, I want you to experience everything that I 299 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,400 experienced. So her boundaries, you know, she 300 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,320 always levels up, you know, we're constantly leveling up. 301 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,720 And then for me that just for her to say, Hey, I would like 302 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,720 for you to consider doing this. It was exciting for me because 303 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,640 it was her pushing her own boundaries. 304 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:09,920 But I mean, I think during that time though, too, we pushed a 305 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,680 lot of boundaries. And Mr. Malka, I can tell you at 306 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,359 one point in time didn't really believe me. 307 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,079 I think we had to have a few conversations about it before he 308 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:22,200 was like, OK, I'm going to. Because his thing was is I know 309 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,800 you're sick. I don't, you know, I don't want 310 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,079 you to do that stuff. I don't want you to be 311 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,880 uncomfortable. But my thing was, is like for 312 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,960 years, because he had, he was always very fair in our 313 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,440 relationship. And I feel like there were some 314 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,600 years that I was not as fair to him as he was to me because of 315 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:46,040 insecurities and whatever else. And I, I felt at that moment, I 316 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,880 wanted to be fair to him. It was pushing my boundaries, 317 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,600 yes. But I, I wanted him to be as 318 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,520 happy as I've been for years. And he's always happy, don't get 319 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,040 me wrong. But there were, I feel like 320 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,720 there were always some like walls and some not. 321 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,680 What? What would you say? 322 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,360 Not walls. No, there's definitely walls. 323 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:07,760 But here's the thing, it's for me, it was always about and it 324 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,960 is about leading from the front. I think that one of the things 325 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,280 that a lot of people do the the person and the lifestyle in a 326 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:22,720 relationship who does the most pushing oftentime is not willing 327 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:30,040 to give what they're asking for. So from my standpoint, there's a 328 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,480 lot of things with Mrs. Mocha where it was just not 329 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,240 understanding, OK, Even when we first, as we broke through 330 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,560 different barriers, there was a time when she was OK, I'm not 331 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,920 comfortable you kissing somebody. 332 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,960 But then I never. Said. 333 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,320 That yeah, let's. Give a better example. 334 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Let me know you. There was a time. 335 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,280 There was definitely time. Absolutely not. 336 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,040 I would not accept that. Oh, there, absolutely. 337 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,400 I will not accept that. My wife has amnesia sometimes 338 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,080 early enough, early enough, early in our relationship, it 339 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:07,000 made her uncomfortable. But once she realized that it 340 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,800 didn't mean that it was different, she was OK with it 341 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,480 because in her mind, at first, I think it was, you know, let's 342 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,480 say something for us. Now I can be delusional, which 343 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,160 he. Usually is he's going to have 344 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,520 dementia before me. Yeah, we've discovered that. 345 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,600 But, but on this, on this, I, I on this one, I will say early in 346 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,520 our relationship, there were a lot of things that Mrs. Mocha 347 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,360 was challenged with. But as she crossed through 348 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,160 different boundaries and I think for her, it was always 349 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,400 understanding. OK, that does not mean that you 350 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,240 feel this way about someone else. 351 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,600 And then it got to the point where with us, our relationship 352 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,760 was so strong, it was, I don't think she was concerned with, 353 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,600 you know, any physical act. Yeah, I mean, even down to, like 354 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,840 I said, more recently when we've evolved a little further into 355 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:10,480 things. I my like, biggest issue with 356 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,800 being sick was not actually like being sick. 357 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,880 It was not being able to sexually satisfy Mr. Moko, 358 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,920 because that's always. We've always lifestyled, we've 359 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,960 always, even if we weren't playing, we were always doing 360 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,160 something in the lifestyle. So I had to like re accustom 361 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,120 myself to beat vanilla, which just so everyone knows I'm gonna 362 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,680 give that a 2 out of 10 and I do. 363 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Not fucking recommend it. I can handle like 2% of my life 364 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,160 or 10% of my life being vanilla but just 24/7 was not the move. 365 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:49,520 But anyways, I I just, I wanted to push my own boundaries 366 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,280 because out I want him to be just as happy as I, I always AM. 367 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:00,280 And on top of that, like everyone, everyone knows I'm a 368 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,920 little selfish when it comes to Dick. 369 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,680 But. And I was definitely losing my 370 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,200 shit quite a few times. And I needed Mr. Mocha to go out 371 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,080 and get some pussy so he could deal with me being a psychopath 372 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,560 for a little bit. I can't say I was a psychopath. 373 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,200 I was just sad. No, no, it's not a cute look, 374 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,160 miss. Smoke is never a psychopath. 375 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,960 I, I, I will say that like throughout our relationship, her 376 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,720 when she thinks she's being Moody or angry, like she's like 377 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,840 a A2 on a Richter scale. You know, every once in a while 378 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,760 she'll get to about a three, but she, I mean, she's never never 379 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,720 bad. She'll get kind of quiet when 380 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,560 she's. Quiet is never good for me. 381 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,880 If I'm quiet, that's an issue. Every. 382 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,320 And not even just for Mr. Mocha, like just in regular life. 383 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,000 If I'm not talking then I'm probably need to go to the 384 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,120 hospital. But I'll tell you what, now that 385 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,640 she's feeling better, she's fucking like a machine. 386 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,040 I mean, she's been giving me some. 387 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,640 I mean, she's trying to make up for lost time. 388 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,800 I'm done. But back to the subject, I am 389 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,080 trying to make up for a lost time. 390 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,160 Well, I appreciate it. I'm not complaining. 391 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,480 I don't take that. I'm taking all the pussy I can 392 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280 get. But we go back, we're 393 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,800 digressing. We, we push our own boundaries 394 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,400 all the time. It's up to you in your 395 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,440 relationship if you want to push your boundaries or if you share 396 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,240 your business or whatever you do. 397 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,920 But there's always, there's something out there for 398 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,840 everybody. There's something or something I 399 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,320 can assure you that you don't always want to be a soft 400 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,040 swapper. You stop at soft swapping 401 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,760 because your routine or because one side of the relationship 402 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,760 isn't comfortable, which is great for you if that's good for 403 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,240 your dynamic. But I can assure you there's 404 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,480 people out there that have different fetishes. 405 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,920 They just don't even know shit. I didn't really know half my 406 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,560 fetishes till we got on fucking Twitter and I was like, yeah, I 407 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,520 really thought I was a fucking freak and I was not. 408 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,040 But I also think that there's, there's don't allow, don't let 409 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,360 people stifle your your growth in the lifestyle. 410 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,880 So and don't let them push you. Don't let anybody push you, you 411 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,880 know, to do something before you're ready. 412 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,200 You know, you move at your own pace. 413 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,040 But more than anything, don't be stifled by the fear that, hey, 414 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,640 my circle is going to look down on me for this. 415 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Because that is a, that is a very, very, very common thing. 416 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,720 And unfortunately, we've been around people where these 417 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,200 friends over here are into some other shit. 418 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,880 And this other group of friends, who they are, their friends have 419 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,400 no idea they're into that shit. And this person is over here 420 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,760 saying, yeah, you know something? 421 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,800 I can't believe that they're into fucking gangbangs and all 422 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,880 of this. Wow shit. 423 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,000 You letting your guy, your wife get fucked by, you know, 424 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800 multiple guys. Like then they have no idea 425 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,440 they're insulting the shit out of the couple who standing 1 426 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,960 foot away from them because they don't know they do that so that 427 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,520 that's also a reason for us as lifestyles to be fucking 428 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,760 responsible about the shit that comes out of our mouths. 429 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:21,040 You know, it's OK to say that I'm not into it, but don't be, 430 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,880 we have to be careful. And, and I, I know that I have 431 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,160 definitely been guilty of doing it. 432 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,760 And my loving wife over the years, you know, she's, she's 433 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,520 tamed my, my tongue and helped me learn to be more aware. 434 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,040 And also, even if you listen to our podcast from the very 435 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,480 beginning to now, you will see our evolution, You know, you'll 436 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,200 see that, you know, we've pushed our boundaries when we first got 437 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,640 into lifestyle, like we were not doing any like no condoms, like 438 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,800 fuck that, we're not doing that. You know, of course, even now 439 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,520 that we, we, we believe in testing before we do it. 440 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,200 We don't just, you know, we're not Cowboys about it, you know, 441 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,760 but you know, we, we've evolved in different ways. 442 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,000 So if you listen to the very beginning and listen to our 443 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,480 evolution, you'll see that, you know, we've come to a place 444 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:21,760 where we don't say what we, we, we're careful about discouraging 445 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,920 people. And we can say this because, you 446 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,960 know, Mrs. Mocha has never really been, she's not too bad 447 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,440 about. But I've definitely been guilty 448 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440 of it. I've been guilty of opening my 449 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,880 mouth and OK, talking about an aspect of the lifestyle that I 450 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,600 don't participate in, but talking down on that. 451 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,640 And then later on learning that I did that right in front of 452 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,240 somebody who was into something that I had spoken down on. 453 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,400 But I think that's where you like got to talk about like 454 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280 there's lifestyle, like swinger stuff and then there's like 455 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,040 kinks and fetishes. I think that's two different 456 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,360 categories, and. But lifestyle, all of that is in 457 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,920 the lifestyle. So that and what you were saying 458 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,800 earlier is basically that, you know, your circle is telling you 459 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600 not to do something. But just like for us, I mean, 460 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,520 we've, we always find another circle, not saying like give up 461 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,560 your friends, like, but we have several different circles and we 462 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,880 know which ones mesh and which ones don't. 463 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,600 And we just don't integrate those people, you know, but, 464 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,040 and, and we tell them, but we're super honest with our friends. 465 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Like, Oh no, this, this is just not something, this is not a 466 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,560 party you're going to want to go to or you're not going to want 467 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320 to come to this because you don't like seeing your wife get 468 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,560 fucked by, you know, five of their dudes or you're not going 469 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080 to want to come to this because you're not into like interracial 470 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,360 stuff or whatever. And I'm just giving examples of 471 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480 us in general. There are plenty of other things 472 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,520 or you know, like I know one of our friends, the first time he 473 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,680 had any type of cuck holding experience and he was not 474 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,480 getting cut, but that the couple he went and met did. 475 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Yeah, he wasn't expecting that and he was super. 476 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560 I can't say he was judgy. He was shocked. 477 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Oh he was judgy as fuck. Yeah, and I just was like, 478 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,080 that's like what they do. But that, you know, I don't 479 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,400 know. Like I said, there's he was. 480 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,520 I don't understand how a man can blah blah like bro bro bro 481 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,840 that's that's what they're into. Right, that's theirs. 482 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,040 That's their thing. You know, that's what they're 483 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,160 into because you know, that's it's the levels to it. 484 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,720 You know, I don't understand how, because he was, I don't 485 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,880 understand how a man can can, you know, let his woman feminize 486 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,840 him and blah, blah, blah. And then I'm like bro, you do 487 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:56,440 realize that there are people who aren't in the lifestyle will 488 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,720 look at you in the same light because you are fucking 489 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 somebody's wife in front of him, you know? 490 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:08,360 So you're judging the guy for allowing you to fuck his wife 491 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:13,240 while she humiliates him. But there's a huge group of 492 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,000 people who would literally judge you for being there doing it. 493 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,520 Yep, and they will judge you equally just like they're 494 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,000 judging him. So you're. 495 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,160 Or just like someone may not like him because he's a tall 496 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,400 BBC. Yeah like they all when you're 497 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,120 not playing with my wife or you're not playing you know 498 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,480 there's always put the shoe on the other foot or thing just 499 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,680 randomly freaking went off. We're not sure. 500 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,960 Freaking. Yeah, that was me. 501 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Did you touch? Something, yeah. 502 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,120 I didn't have a Pluto man. I'm so dead. 503 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520 OK, so we're back on. If you guys couldn't hear us for 504 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,920 a second. Oops. 505 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,680 Anyway, so Mr. Mocha was trying to RIP my dress up the whole 506 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,880 drive home but the outside of my pussy was like super tender 507 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920 because I had gotten pummeled the night before and I got waxed 508 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,360 that morning so. My what's the policy if somebody 509 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,640 else makes your pussy sore? I I totally fucked you the the 510 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,560 night after. If somebody else makes your 511 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,880 pussy sore, what does that have to do with this guy? 512 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,960 It was the outside. It wasn't the inside of my 513 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,680 pussy. That's because somebody else was 514 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,160 fucking like. I had fucking leprosy on the 515 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,800 outside of my. Vagina. 516 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,240 No, you didn't. You look sunburned. 517 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,680 So red that I'm not sure you've ever seen leprosy, honey. 518 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640 But no making stuff. Yeah, leprosy is a bad word to 519 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,080 be talking about New Year, Vagina. 520 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,080 So we're gonna go with you. Look like you had a sunburned 521 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Kitty. OK. 522 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320 We'll see. From all of the grinding that 523 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,080 you were doing. No, someone I think had just 524 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,120 shaved and when I was writing them it was like a little 525 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160 scruffy. Oh, you had the sandpaper? 526 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,880 Yeah. I don't know how. 527 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. You didn't care when you were 528 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,200 watching. It looked good. 529 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,280 You have me a help. I saw like you didn't care why 530 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,720 it was happening because you were talking real nasty. 531 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,960 What did? I say all kind of nasty shit. 532 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,680 What did I say? Fuck this bloody pussy. 533 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,600 I didn't. Say that. 534 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Fuck it harder. Give me that big cock. 535 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,520 Yeah, all kind of shit. I heard you. 536 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000 I was like. Oh, I did tell someone that I 537 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,320 loved their cock. Yeah, yeah. 538 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,280 I mean, I love your big cock. Shove it in there, big Dick. 539 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,280 And the, the, the lady who was next to her was like, Oh my God, 540 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,080 I can't believe she can take it like that. 541 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,320 She was very impressed at your Dick receiving skills. 542 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Sometimes you got to take a big Dick. 543 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Yeah, she's like, you can take it from every angle. 544 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Yeah, I I mean, that's not true. I have one angle I still can't 545 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,320 do. But look like you're taking it 546 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,600 from a lot of angles. I didn't take it from the one 547 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,520 angle. I can't take it. 548 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520 From well, I mean you took it from about 87 other angles. 549 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,600 That's OK, I like to be flexible. 550 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Yeah, you look like you definitely had a good time. 551 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Yeah, so we almost had an accident on the way home because 552 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,200 Mr. Mocha was drunk and he was trying, he was trying to touch 553 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,200 my pussy. And we literally. 554 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,200 Were home. I was only trying to touch your 555 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,360 pussy. I didn't touch your steering 556 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,120 wheel. I didn't touch the pedals. 557 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,080 Were 11 minutes from our home, so it was a long. 558 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,520 I mean, you're driving slow. I always drive slow. 559 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,280 Well, so I think we're more like 40 minutes away from the house. 560 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,960 No it we it took us 11 minutes and then Mr. Mocha passed out 561 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,280 for like 3.5 seconds then we pulled in the driveway, then he 562 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,160 walked in the house and then was awaiting for me in the bed naked 563 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400 anyways but. Did you take advantage of the 564 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,720 penis? No, I fell asleep. 565 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,840 I'm lying. I did. 566 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,080 Well, that's what you call asleep. 567 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,640 I hope you fall asleep again tonight. 568 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,160 I will be going to regular sleep tonight. 569 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Oh good, I need to go to bed. No, no, I know I like the code. 570 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,200 I get it, regular sleep. Goodbye. 571 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,280 Sleep. OK, go to bed. 572 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,000 That's new code word. So if you're here, Miss Mocha, 573 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,280 say she's going to sleep. No, no. 574 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,560 That makes you had air codes. No, that's Mr. Mocha 'cause 575 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,400 he'll be like oh I'm so tired I need a nap. 576 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840 That's AKA let's go fat, yes or no? 577 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,640 I mean, if I'm in the bed. Right. 578 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,200 And you decide to come in, right? 579 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,800 Right, right. OK. 580 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,280 And it's hard already. Might as well, right? 581 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Might as well. Get it done anyways. 582 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,680 But back to our subject that we're yes, yes, I, I think that 583 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,280 it's OK for everyone to evolve and do what they feel is right. 584 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760 Don't. Don't stick with one group of 585 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,720 people because. Expand your horizons. 586 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920 Right, don't because you feel like, well, I really became 587 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840 close with Mary and John. I'm making up names right now, 588 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040 but I can't. I became really like I'm best 589 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,120 friends with Mary and John, but Mary and John should still be 590 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,120 your friend. If you decide that you want to 591 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,280 go do porno tomorrow with Shane Diesel or whoever, you know what 592 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,640 I mean? Like. 593 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,680 Don't. Don't be cowards. 594 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Don't be cowards. Don't. 595 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,680 And if there's, and I'll say this, don't be cowards and get 596 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,800 with a group of people and go, oh, shit, I know I can't hang 597 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400 out these groups, these people from hanging out with them, you 598 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,160 know, we're adults. If your friends try to take 599 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,840 ownership of you, like I am not married to another couple, all 600 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,200 right. And I think that's one of the 601 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640 things throughout our lifestyle experience that we have 602 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,640 definitely, definitely changed some people's behavior because 603 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520 we've had friends early on who go, oh, well, you hang out with 604 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,000 those guys, We're not going to hang out with you. 605 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,680 And then we're like, OK, we're not going to hang out with you. 606 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,440 Oh, well, you know, I thought we were friends. 607 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640 No, we're not friends. If you tell me who I can't be 608 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,160 friends with, just because you don't like those people don't 609 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,760 mean I can't like those people. And you know, of course they 610 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800 come around and we we have friends. 611 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160 We have friends who don't like each other, but they respect the 612 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,480 fact that we have friends. If you find that you only have 613 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,040 one group of friends, that is not either expanding where 614 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,280 you're including more couples and more people. 615 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,639 I'm not talking about just sexually. 616 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,880 I'm talking about intellectually, all right? 617 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,120 And socially, if you're in an area where there's multiple 618 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,679 clicks of people and you find yourself in one, especially when 619 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,000 you know that there's other people who you could possibly be 620 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,840 friends with but you're afraid to friend offend the people who 621 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,239 you hang out with, Don't be fucking cowards because then you 622 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,080 you you're missing out like. It's like cowardly. 623 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,280 It's definitely cowardly. It's definitely cowardly. 624 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,560 We've seen so many people who do that. 625 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,400 People are creatures of habits, so that it's harder for you to 626 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560 do something different if you're a creature of habit. 627 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,920 I'm very much a creature of habit, so it's harder for me to. 628 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,159 And as a creature of habit, you are not stuck in one clique of 629 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:54,679 people. You hang out people who you 630 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,280 like. Now, if you wind up in a clique 631 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,680 of people because there are no options of people who you like, 632 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,040 that's one thing that's different. 633 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,080 But if you are in an area where you know that the only reason 634 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,720 you're not associating with that person over there is because 635 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,400 this person over here, you know, don't like them, you're being a 636 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,800 coward. Like you, you, you are being a 637 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,360 coward. And you're being a child. 638 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,120 This high school, you're grown-ups. 639 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120 Expand your horizons, get to know new people. 640 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,200 We are part of a very, very, very small society and 641 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,840 community. And this is what's going to keep 642 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,120 you from growing. Because I feel like there's so 643 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,280 many people who we've spoken to who say, oh man, I wish we could 644 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,240 do this. Your wife. 645 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,840 Why the fuck can't you you? Can do it. 646 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120 Oh, our friends are going to be OK with this, you know hey, we 647 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560 want to come to you and I'm I don't knock him for it. 648 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,480 I just feel sorry for him. Hey, we want to come to your 649 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,360 party, but you know, it's kind of outside of I know our social 650 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040 circle wouldn't really be cool if we did this. 651 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,480 I don't knock you for trying to well, guess what? 652 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,640 We don't have to tell your fucking. 653 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,960 Yeah, we're not going to tell on you. 654 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,040 We're not going to tell on you, but you know how many times 655 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,760 we've had parties where there winds up being three people from 656 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,520 that social circle, quote, UN quote, and they're like, oh, 657 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,120 wow, you guys come to these parties, too? 658 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,360 Yeah. Because you're in another social 659 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560 party where you can't go do that. 660 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,560 Expand your horizons. Yeah, exactly. 661 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,480 Talk about it, fantasize about it. 662 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,960 If it's not. If it's not something you can 663 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,560 handle right away, then talk about it later on down the line. 664 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,840 And then also don't be those people who are shitting on the 665 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,080 people's dreams and desires. You know, don't, don't be the 666 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,920 negative person who is discouraging people from being 667 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,120 themselves. Let me give it an example 668 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,280 please. So I had someone reach out to me 669 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,920 about like race play. Race play is not my thing. 670 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,320 It's just my personal preference. 671 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,240 Is not. It's not my personal preference. 672 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Did I say that right? It's not. 673 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200 It's not your previous. Not my personal preference. 674 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,200 God bless. I can't forget talk, but it's 675 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,920 not my personal preference. But I just, you know, like the 676 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,640 guy was like emphasizing like OBBC and then some other stuff 677 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,320 that like I just and I just told him like, Hey, you know how I 678 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,960 like all Dicks? I love BBC, but I like all Dicks 679 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,960 and race play is just not my thing. 680 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,320 If that's your thing, that's cool. 681 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,960 And I the further the conversation went, the guy kept 682 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,360 like pushing, pushing, pushing, like, hey, you know, I, I want 683 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,960 to do this. And like, we didn't even talk 684 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,120 about playing. We were just literally having a 685 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,360 conversation. And I had to hand my phone to 686 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,680 Mr. Mocha so that he could see what was happening. 687 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,080 And he was like, oh, the guy's asking for this, this, this and 688 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440 this. And again, it was just not 689 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,320 something that I want to do. I don't care if everybody else 690 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,760 does that, but it's just not something I've ever really had a 691 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,880 desire to do. But if you do that, cool. 692 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,960 And maybe he and I told him, like, maybe you can find someone 693 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,120 else that 'cause he, I think he was going to be at Mocha. 694 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was going to be at Mocha. 695 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,760 And I just told him that was not my thing. 696 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,200 And it's not something I'm really into. 697 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,120 I, you know, I'll play with you, but just not into that. 698 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,760 And we have several friends that are into race play. 699 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,480 Do I give a shit that they're into race play? 700 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,080 No, but I'm just not going to do it myself, you know that. 701 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,560 And you can be comfortable saying. 702 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Once again, you can be comfortable saying which you're 703 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,760 not into while not. I'm not going to knock you for 704 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,600 your fetish like I I I was glad that he was honest 'cause I can 705 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,400 be 100% honest. Had he got me into the bed or in 706 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,440 the bedroom and started that I might have. 707 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,200 I don't know what I would have done. 708 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,840 I probably would have so fucked up, but I would probably 709 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,560 wouldn't have said the things he wanted me to say. 710 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,120 Yeah, and it would, it would have ruined the experience for 711 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,920 you. You know, why not just say what 712 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,440 it is, right? And be comfortable in your own 713 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,760 skin? And hey, who knows, you know, 714 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,880 2-3 years down the road you may turn around and go, hey, all of 715 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,760 a sudden I'm interested in this, right? 716 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,680 And I think it kind of makes you look like an idiot when you were 717 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,880 a vocal shit talker about a thing and then all of a sudden 718 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,400 you're into it. Because we know people like 719 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,000 that. Yes, we know people very much 720 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,920 like that. Later on down the line or people 721 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:29,800 that talk about people that do party favors and you're down the 722 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,520 road, we see them doing that same thing. 723 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,720 Yeah, going wild. Yeah. 724 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,160 But I mean, again, whatever you do, whatever, that's OK. 725 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,800 It's OK to do what you do. But just like it was hard, I 726 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,680 can't say it was hard. We found our tribe and we keep 727 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,440 finding more and more people because we keep evolving. 728 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080 But we still have the same friends that we started with. 729 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,240 I can't say all of them, but close friends are still our 730 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,920 friends no matter what our fetish or kink is. 731 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,240 And they're aware, and they're OK with it. 732 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,800 Yeah, I think you once you, once you give people power to make 733 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,640 you feel bad for which you like, once you give them that power, 734 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,680 then you, you you're kind of subject to everybody else's win. 735 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,120 Well, just like women, some women or men slut shame or 736 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,640 whatever and they don't like the word whore or for whatever 737 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,920 reason. If you're not exploring 738 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,760 something because there's some PTSD there, of course don't do 739 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040 that. You know, don't push your don't 740 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,640 push your boundaries because you because you want to be that 741 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,800 uncomfortable. But you know, don't shame 742 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,400 somebody else for what they do. But just because there's people 743 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,920 that so, for example, vanilla people, they can't understand 744 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,160 why you're a swinger. Just the just the basic swinging 745 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,320 stuff. Oh, I'll never let my husband 746 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,200 fuck another person. Or oh, I'll, I'll never even 747 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,320 just be adjacent to that because they don't understand it. 748 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,080 But they're probably every night having a fantasy or in their 749 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,280 bathroom jacking off or touching their pussy thinking about 750 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,560 something, but they can't tell their spouse. 751 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,080 But because they don't understand it. 752 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160 That's a lot of times why people judge. 753 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,800 Like there are a lot of, I think times in my life that people 754 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,400 have judged me based on things. And it's because they and I 755 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,240 didn't realize until much later in life. 756 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,720 It's it's because they didn't understand it. 757 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,880 Like, my parents couldn't understand why I married Mr. 758 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,080 Mocha 'cause he was of the he was black, he was black. 759 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:48,240 And my mom actually made a comment to me once that if there 760 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:52,800 were, how did she say it? If there were, If you were in a 761 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,960 room full of white guys, then all of them wanted you. 762 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,720 You would only notice the black guy is something along that time 763 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,960 and those lines. And she told me that I was 764 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,000 addicted to big black Dicks. Yes, my mother said. 765 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,240 That you're addicted to the big black cock. 766 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,720 Yes, but I mean, here's the thing that my mom can't 767 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,040 understand it because it's not something she would do. 768 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,440 And I have to say this like, I think for me, one things I will 769 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:25,320 legitimately say that I appreciate it about my wife is 770 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,960 if she's in a room full of guys, she's going to choose the one 771 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,360 that she's most attracted to. I've seen her in a room full of 772 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,680 black guys where she like the white dude like my wife likes, 773 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,200 who has the ability to turn her on, you know, which to me is a 774 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,640 bigger turn out. Don't get me wrong. 775 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,960 You know, if she sees, you know, two guys, one that's white and 776 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,600 one that's black, and they're both fit. 777 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,040 They're both no sarcastic and they're both sexy. 778 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,200 OK, she's probably going to go with the black dude, but she's 779 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,880 not going to fucking, you know, take Urkel over Captain America. 780 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,360 Pause. On that I would fuck both of 781 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,840 them, thank you. True. 782 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,600 True, true. Let's let's not even say that if 783 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000 they're both turning me on the same way, I'll be like, do you 784 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,760 guys, are you guys into MFM? Because we're about to do that. 785 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,240 Yeah, yeah. I mean, so so I mean, but that's 786 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,800 also, I think that's one of the stereotypes that she's always 787 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,480 got whacked with. Hey, it is. 788 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,440 It was all it was. It was really funny when you 789 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,000 know her, her mom said that and you know, fortunately, you know, 790 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,120 of course, my wife being herself, found it fucking 791 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,600 hilarious. She was offended, but she 792 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,480 laughed her ass off about the situation. 793 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,320 You know, because there is a great example of someone saying 794 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,800 something and then automatically thinking that they know you, 795 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,480 what you want, what you like, and trying to shame you into 796 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,160 conforming to what they want, which is something that we'll 797 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,600 never do. You know, I mean, I think we 798 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,680 found that we're to a place where we just do. 799 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,040 It feels good. You know, the only person who 800 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,000 the only person whose opinion I'm beholden to is my wife's and 801 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,120 vice versa. You know, outside of that, you 802 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,640 know the fucking world is not always the world is her oyster. 803 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:19,600 Yeah, yeah, we've had like I said, it's been an interesting 804 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,480 journey. Like the whole the whole time. 805 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:30,520 The Mr. Mocha is definitely he had like a kind of girlfriend. 806 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,120 We're going to say kind of girlfriend. 807 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,880 I think it's like probably like this second time in our 808 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,200 relationship that he consistently talked to the same 809 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:45,160 person every day, which I think initially I was like, we'll 810 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,560 just, we'll throw it all out there. 811 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,120 She actually was kind of his ex-girlfriend before we were 812 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,560 together. So he started talking to her 813 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,560 again and that was definitely, I'm normally like OK with his ex 814 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,680 girlfriends, but, and I was actually OK with her. 815 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,960 I just had to get it over myself, 'cause I, you know, I 816 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400 trust that he, he'll do the right thing and if he doesn't, 817 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,600 then I watch lots of serial killer shows and he'll be fine. 818 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:20,600 And then I will say even even more for me, like I get, I'm 819 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,200 always very excited when Missus Mocha is a part of whatever I 820 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,280 have a part of things. So, you know, one thing that I 821 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:37,960 enjoyed is missus Mocha started taking an interest and engaging 822 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,080 like I've always, I've always liked for Missus Mocha to engage 823 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,080 females that I, that I interact with, you know, in fact, I'd 824 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,720 much rather hurt, you know? Take the reins. 825 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:54,040 Yeah, take the reins, manage it. And I think that there was a 826 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,280 point for us where, you know, when she says, hey, what would 827 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,640 you like? What turns you on? 828 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,280 If I say that turns me on. And she's kind of like, yeah, 829 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,960 OK. But then she actually. 830 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,720 I just have to talk myself into stuff that like I wouldn't, I 831 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,560 wouldn't be like, oh, I want to do this. 832 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,760 But if he, if he says it that it just takes me longer to warm up 833 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,760 to the idea like him, he's like, Oh yeah, sure, let's do that. 834 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,760 Well, I mean. Yeah, she's she like it. 835 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,080 I'm like you like it. I love it, you know, but then 836 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,200 also I think another thing that for for her, she also realized 837 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,800 that, you know, if the the way that I like it, you know, she 838 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,520 has all, you know, she has a whole lot of power, you know, 839 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,880 you, you know, you can manage the situation sometimes. 840 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,640 I don't like to listen. Hey, listen, if you're concerned 841 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,520 about me dealing with her, how about you just plan everything 842 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,440 out and then just. I don't like being the manager. 843 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,160 Bring it, listen. Bring her over When, when I have 844 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,040 an erection and then, you know, I can go sleep while you're 845 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,720 hanging out with her. And then, you know, so like, 846 00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,280 that works. That works better for me. 847 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,320 That works so much better. And now. 848 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,760 Yeah. Like that's kind of lazy. 849 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,840 Yeah, yeah. But now you have all, you have 850 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,280 all the control of it. So like you have no reason to be 851 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,960 uncomfortable because. And I've literally really pushed 852 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,640 all my. He's got an erection here. 853 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,120 Come on over. I've literally really pushed my 854 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,320 control. I'm OK with that. 855 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,680 I like, I like you like kind of controlling your own stuff. 856 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,360 I mean like I'm a part of it, but I like 10%. 857 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,840 I like being the 10%, not like the 50. 858 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,920 Yeah, yeah. I mean, she's comfortable with 859 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,920 it now. Like being the 10 though, just 860 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,200 'cause you know, I haven't really been like texting anyone 861 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,000 like that or like doing anything until more recently. 862 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,080 I started. Talking to some more people and 863 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,040 sexting people, which is actually. 9. 864 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,040 I am not normally. Wearing it up. 865 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,640 I'm not good at sexting. I'm not good at texting. 866 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,600 Like she's good at sexting when she wants. 867 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,720 To if no remember, like I used to get texts from like some guys 868 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,880 that would be like, oh, what, what, what would they say? 869 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,920 Like what, what do you want to do to me or something like that? 870 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,280 And I was so bad at it. I would have to respond and be 871 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,360 like, can I just like show you when you get here? 872 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,240 Like it was really bad like. I was sorry. 873 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,200 No, it was like I was working. I had the kids. 874 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,960 Around I was lazy, OK? Mrs. Mocha has a very dirty mind 875 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,160 and when she puts her dirty mind to things. 876 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,760 I have to be properly motivated. Yeah, if she put listen it, when 877 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,960 Mrs. Mocha start talking dirty, you cannot want to get hard. 878 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,640 But you're going to get hard. Trust me, I know. 879 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,080 No, but I have to have like proper motivation, like wow, 880 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040 throwing shit. I have to have like proper 881 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,440 motivation like and usually The Dirty talk comes with when I'm 882 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,680 actually fucking. So it's harder for me to sex, 883 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,160 you know? But she can do it, and good. 884 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,040 No. When she wants to. 885 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,160 No, no, no, no. When she wants to do it, she can 886 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:02,720 handle it. You're right, I can't do it. 887 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,840 Unless you. Put your mic up to your mouth. 888 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,520 Unless she's being shy. I'm only shy like initially when 889 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,040 I meet meet people and it's only because I don't want to be 890 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,360 overwhelming because I know that like one of the like chicks that 891 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:25,800 at work told me that I word vomit, She said. 892 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,880 Like you're either really quiet or you vomit a lot of 893 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,600 information all at the same time. 894 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,560 I. Don't believe her? 895 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,520 You don't think so? No. 896 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,840 I don't know, you know, I'm really quiet though initially. 897 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,280 I don't like to say a whole lot in the beginning. 898 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,360 No, like at work you were vomit when when you're under attack 899 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,200 and you finally had enough. But you. 900 00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,320 You. I feel like I do that though 901 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,920 too, like when I'm taught, when I first meet people, I'm just 902 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,320 quiet and then I'm like, oh, this is what we're doing. 903 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920 Cool. I I like to just feel the vibes 904 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,120 of the room. I don't want to just jump on the 905 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:11,680 horse. Let me see what everybody else 906 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,560 is doing. You jump on the horse. 907 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,520 I've jumped on some regular daglars too. 908 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:21,040 But you like to jump on the horse. 909 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,400 Sometimes a horse is not a daily driver, No. 910 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,080 Anyways, we're rambling, Mr. Mocha. 911 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,200 Well, I think that we've got our point across. 912 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,240 It's. Conclusion is talk about your 913 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:39,880 fantasies. Don't let other people influence 914 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,480 the way you do your lifestyle journey. 915 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640 I mean, we, I think we've kind of had an episode about that 916 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,200 too. But don't be ashamed of what you 917 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,880 are. If you're a cock, yeah. 918 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,800 If you're if you like gangbangs, then have a gangbang. 919 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,720 If you, you know anything that you're into, if you like being 920 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:00,840 fisted, get fisted. Who cares? 921 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,400 Who cares what your friends say or whatever? 922 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,080 They should like you no matter what. 923 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,760 And on that note, we are your host, Mr. and Misses Mocha. 924 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,080 This is the O Faces podcast. If you enjoy listening to us, 925 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,040 remember you can find us wherever you get your podcast. 926 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:25,560 That's O Faces with AZOFACEZ. And till next time I am Mr. 927 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,640 Mocha and. Goodbye from the mochas. 928 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,440 Bring it over to this myth so I can see your legs trip. 929 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:45,520 I got it so easily that you just like a porn of me swimming and 930 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,800 when we're all done on a sea.