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Yo-yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning. 

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GMD. 
Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, 

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May 19th, 2025. 
Look at that. 

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Another beautiful day. 
I have a beautiful day. 

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I got my coats in the house. 
Tyler, Amanda, good morning. 

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Good morning. 
Good morning. 

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Good morning. 
How are you doing today? 

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Hello, I'm doing fantastic. 
How are you? 

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I'm good, tired. 
Tyler, how are you doing today? 

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I'm good also a little tired so 
I I don't have the the the 

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biggest social life these days, 
but I did go out last night. 

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I was out out at dinner and I 
missed all the crazy price 

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action into clothes, which is 
probably a good thing because I 

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would have been euphoric and 
screaming on the timeline in all

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caps. 
Most like just. 

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To have on a Sunday night. 
I like that. 

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I like that. 
I can't do Sunday night or else 

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I'm dead on Monday. 
I yeah, this consensus week, 

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that was a lot. 
That was a lot. 

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It was a lot. 
Then we had our event Friday. 

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How was it? 
Yeah, we, we had our event on 

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Friday. 
It was a banger, but it was like

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a 7 hour long event. 
I'm never doing that again. 

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Sad to pero though. 
And other like that was fun. 

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It was worth it. 
But we started 3:00 PM so show 

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up with two blah blah blah. 
You know what I mean? 

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And then our event went to like 
10/10/30 and then I had to fly 

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the next day. 
But it was great. 

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It was successful. 
We had over like 34500 people. 

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I don't even know. 
We had 2000 signups. 

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It was the official after party 
of consensus that we threw. 

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Yeah. 
So it was like it was everyone, 

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everyone was there. 
It was great. 

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Shout out to everybody who 
showed up. 

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You lot of you are listeners to 
the show. 

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So shout out to you guys for for
pulling up. 

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And this week. 
I'm on the road again on 

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Wednesday for like 36 hours. 
Have to go to Solana Accelerate.

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Yeah, big week for Solana. 
Actually. 

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They have a massive event in New
York, like really, really big. 

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It's impressive. 
Like a lot of people head in 

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there. 
It's a whole week long, but I'm 

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just going to go for like 2 
nights. 

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But yeah, it's a lot. 
But we're almost there. 

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It's usually first half of the 
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nothing until like September. 
So so we'll be we'll be over it.

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But yeah, consensus was great. 
I think I told you last week was

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super successful and the event 
went overall amazing and we even

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got Drake cardboard cut out 
appearance at the event. 

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So you know, you can say Drake 
showed up, you know anyways, the

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other show, I mean, look, Tyler 
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right now, but you know, we're 
going to go through the market. 

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What a watching the close last 
night was like watching Sly 

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sports. 
It was so fun. 

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I just had like the 15 minute 
charts on Bitcoin. 

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I was looking at it. 
Let's go fuck it. 

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That was fun. 
Highest weekly close Bitcoin in 

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history. 
So that's historical night. 

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Yes, historical Sunday. 
So we'll talk about that. 

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What's next we'll see. 
I mean are we expecting all time

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highs this week? 
It looks like that's quite 

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consensus, but we'll see what 
happens on market side Tyler's 

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Who is the man back? 
Oh, daddy of the man, can you 

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dig it? 
Yeah, it was a bit of a wild 

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last 24 hours. 
I went to bed and I missed all 

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of it too. 
But I woke up and the marker was

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down. 
But then I heard it hit 107 

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briefly on last night. 
That was the highest weekly ever

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closed for Bitcoin. 
You saw Bitcoin doms as you go 

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up during this period, mainly 
because ETH underperformed, 

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although that's less aggressive 
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yesterday. 
But you have seen most of the L 

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ones have gone slightly lower 
today. 

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Solana is back to 161, ETH is 
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Bitcoin is still at 103 K, so 
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most L ones and alts are down 
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Bitcoin dominance went back up 
to around 64% over the last over

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the last 24 hours, although it's
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from there. 
So we'll see we'll see where 

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that one ends up this week. 
We have an interesting week. 

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I think the they're still going 
to see some headlines from this 

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from this world tour that 
obviously Trump is doing. 

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He's come back from the Gulf and
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to mention for, for macro actual
data, it's not that high. 

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We just have global Pmis and 
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there's been a lot of weakness 
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the US in particular. 
So that might have some feed 

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through. 
The main thing today on macro 

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has been the downgrade which 
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Moody's. 
Moody's is a credit rating 

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agency, probably only heard 
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they generally give credit. 
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essentially that you would get 
at a bank for for corporates and

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for governments. 
And they downgraded the US from 

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the highest level to like the 
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And the reason for that was just
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This did cause a big sell off 
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although that was slightly 
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This this time it's caused a 
little bit of a sell off. 

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The main thing has been though 
that the 10 year again continues

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to push higher. 
So we've got US tenure is now. 

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Let me look at it now. 
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So we're heading back higher. 30
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too. 
So all this hope of lower rates 

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with fiscal prudence, let's say 
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moment, which has gone people a 
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like it when bond yields go 
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And bond yields have been going 
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every geography too. 
So this is sometimes not a great

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scenario. 
You can't read that much into 

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it. 
But yeah, if one yields go up to

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like 5 or 6%, then it would be 
worrying. 

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I would say at least for like 
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their ability to actually fund 
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definitely impacted if that was 
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continue Japan similarly as 
having a bunch of it's one 

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yields go to multi years highs 
at the moment, which isn't isn't

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the best look for for Bitcoin 
for everything else. 

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We've had a few more corporates 
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to buy Bitcoin. 
There's a corporate that came 

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out thousand more group, so 
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dollars of Bitcoin. 
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Have metaplanet by another 104 
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sign and but for for the other 
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headline, the biggest sole 
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It looks like they're about to 
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well. 
There's going to be a lot of 

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headlines this week for Solana, 
right? 

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It's like their their big week. 
Yeah, it's like their break 

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point, but in in New York this 
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Yeah, this is their. 
This is their big week for 

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announcements. 
Yeah, so. 

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And they always make sure to 
have some, right? 

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Yeah. 
And then hopefully they get 

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taken well this time. 
Yeah, feels as though it's 

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underperformed largely it's Lana
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room for like good headlines 
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little bit. 
Big winners over the weekend. 

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It's the same ones really. 
Kaito is still doing really 

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well. 
Head still around $2.00 there. 

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Virtuals has had a good well 
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ecosystem. 
Most other things took a bit of 

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a bath and in meme coins. 
Definitely got a bunch of meme 

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coins that didn't have a great 
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Or at least like treading 
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I think mainly that's just 
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underperforming. 
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I suppose that, but yeah, I'm 
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Actually, it's probably been the
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performing altcoin meme coin. 
Of it looks they kill this it 

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actually looks insane. 
This is insane. 

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I I saw that right before the 
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what the fuck is this like this 
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ready to I mean I'm assuming 
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here, but I'm assuming a push 
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here's. 
Hoping here's. 

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Hoping, yeah, here's here's the 
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You know, I think I would love 
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I would definitely love to see 
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Anyways, he's got a new flavor 
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What do you guys think it is? 
It's it's weird because it's the

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same color as Coinbase open sea 
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So he's playing mind games here 
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mean? 
He's like, he's like trying to 

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see what what flavor do you guys
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Mendo knows, but actually I 
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I mean, it seems like base is 
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base seems obvious, I guess the 
base Berry. 

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But Burn laid out the case for 
just base and then it's not 

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going to be flavored. 
It's just going to be pure 

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sparkling water, which is 
interesting. 

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Interesting theory. 
I got to give him credit for 

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that. 
Yeah, it's, it's going to be 

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interesting. 
Anyways, that's a good roundup 

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man though timeline I was going 
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high but after last. 
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I'm I'm, I changed my mind 
because yes, I was like, fuck, 

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it was going to fall time this 
week. 

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And then I looked at timeline 
and seen a lot of people 

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exclusive Zoran Kohl's 
aggressively back from the 

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timeline. 
You know, shorting the share of 

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the market is calling for much 
lower before higher. 

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I mean, what's what's your 
feeling about this? 

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You're like, it looks like we're
bouncing this morning. 

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Obviously it was a little too 
hot last night, like the clothes

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was honestly like fireworks. 
It was so much fun to watch boys

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and I knew even I knew I was 
like, OK, I'm way too excited. 

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This is going to this is dumb 
for sure, but why do you what's 

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your timeline for like an all 
time? 

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I'm hit like we're we're we're 
close, we're close. 

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What do you think happens here? 
I think it'd be it. 

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It would be a highly likely that
we're going to hit all time high

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this or at least go for it this 
week. 

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You know, you don't, you don't 
get, I mean, it's got to be 

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there's, there's a lot of air in
terms of resistance between here

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and all time. 
I thought we we'd go there 

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straight away as soon as we 
broke above 100 because there's 

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not really a lot of like, oh, 
you got to get through this 

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crazy level. 
It's just like took like 3 weeks

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right after we broke 102 weeks. 
Yeah, that's the weekly. 

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So what a chart though. 
It just looks like you got to 

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hang that in the Louvre. 
If we break higher, it's like 

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you got to we're going to have 
to put at the moment or 

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something. 
This is nice love to see that. 

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And So what does that mean for I
mean this all coin market it. 

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Every time you think it's going 
to be all season, you kind of 

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get humbled by Bitcoin. 
It's insane. 

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Like even last week and there's 
a clip that for more posted of 

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us talking about this, remember 
the Raoul pals calling for the 

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top of Bitcoin dominance. 
A lot of people said and we 

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discussed those 3, we didn't 
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agree, but we were just like, 
OK, like that would make sense. 

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Like what are you thinking? 
Like this is just again like a 

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Bitcoin like rally. 
It seems like all coins just got

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smacked by down yesterday, 
starting with ETH and Solana. 

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Yeah. 
So I maybe I am just a bull 

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Todd, but I am I am only on ETH 
still like I think this is the 

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one that's going to move. 
So I, I'm, I'm still bearish on 

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Bitcoin dominance for, for at 
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I think we've got another leg of
this altcoin move, basically. 

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Look at this though, this is so 
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It's like every time like here 
people were calling the end of 

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BTCD and right there just like 
decides to say fuck off and. 

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If you didn't think that that 
could happen, then you don't 

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know Bitcoin. 
Dominance. 

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You're right. 
And I think you are betting. 

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It happened here too, right? 
And then here. 

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Wildly against the trend, but I 
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where you're going to see. 
I don't know about other old 

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coins like this is what I said. 
I just think this is the time 

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for Ethan. 
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. 

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If he dies, he dies. 
If he dies, he dies. 

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I mean, let's look at the our 
our beta here, Pepe Strong above

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5.4 billion tried to crack above
6 something a few times, but it 

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didn't really go down below 5 
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which you love to see. 
Mug actually has been ranging in

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that $400 million range pretty 
heavily, which is good. 

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Good sign. 
Usually a little handle, right. 

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You were like this Tyler's 
favorite little little move here

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and then wrecked. 
I mean, wrecked is wrecked and 

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wrecked always has a lot going 
on for it. 

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And you had always spearheading 
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So that's good. 
Is there any other ETH beta that

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you guys are following? 
Like I guess following like Ave.

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or like Lido or like those like 
the utility, all betas to ether,

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just strictly Ethernet memes. 
I said, like, what am I buying? 

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I'm just buying. 
No, like, yeah, yeah. 

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So are you like, no, because are
you OK? 

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It's altcoins like the lighters 
of this world, etcetera. 

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Or just not at all. 
No, no. 

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OK, to be fair, like I think the
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is Eve, I've said this A. 
Couple of no, you've said it, 

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yeah. 
That I just think that if you 

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think that Eve is going to 
outperform, make sure you own 

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some Eve. 
Yeah, that makes sense. 

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I'm trying to find the chart of 
the theorem ecosystem here on on

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on thing. 
But it's weird because it has 

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like chain link sheba in there, 
but get and everything. 

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So it's it's tough to find like 
the proper coin market cap of 

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ETH and ETH all coins. 
But it even looks like the Altos

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are not performing very well on 
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So anyways, OK, that's a good 
market roundup. 

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Hopefully we get our our little 
all time high on Bitcoin this 

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week followed by an alt run. 
Please alt season when I need 

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you I need you Tyler. 
It was a weekend pack with you 

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to see what you got. 4 trillion 
NFT and crypto analysis Tyler T 

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on FOMO hour calls the kids pay 
at least. 

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Free to batch the pairs yeah 
folks, crypto majors slightly 

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red here this morning after a 
roller coaster Sunday. 

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As man I mentioned, we hit all 
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Bitcoin right around one O 65 
but have since sold off a bit 

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since then. the US stable coin 
bill of genius act. 

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It looks like it might pass the 
Senate. 

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It's gearing up for a big vote 
this week, so that is going to 

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be a big story to watch. 
Jack Dorsey is back and 

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endorsing this BIP Bitcoin 
Improvement Proposal 177 which 

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effectively would change the 
unit bias of Bitcoin back to 

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Satoshi's. 
So Satoshi would be become 

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Bitcoin. 
Current Bitcoin would be like 

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mega Bitcoin. 
So the price of Bitcoin would be

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like .001 cents or or dollars. 
So big potential change and 

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there's a big discussion 
underway on the timeline for 

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that. 
The other Bitcoin is 14 U.S. 

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states or long Bitcoin via micro
strategy combined $630 million 

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in exposure, so 2/3 of a billion
already in the states. 

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Sailor bought another 
765,000,000 at A1O35 average man

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planet bought another thousand 
that the D5 development stock 

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previously Jan over soared 75% 
on Friday after they announced a

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new partnership with Bach so 
that stock now over 300 million 

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in market cap. 
Galaxy digital began trading on 

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the NASDAQ on Friday. 
Basil Medical Groups the last 

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the latest company set to 
acquire Bitcoin for their 

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treasury up to a billion 
interesting headline crypto 

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venture capital now projected to
exceed 18 billion in 2025, so a 

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lot more investment happening 
than perhaps folks see on a 

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day-to-day basis. 
Steak 'n Shake announced they're

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going to start accepting 
Bitcoin's payment across all 

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their locations in the US. 
And if you remember that fake 

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SEC Bitcoin ETF approval 
announcement that sent Bitcoin 

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up briefly before, it was. 
The. 

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Hack fake. 
Yeah, the guy in Alabama man was

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behind that. 
He got sentenced to 14 months in

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prison. 
What a fucking idiot. 

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For that tweet. 
That's the one where he act the 

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Gary or SEC. 
It was the account right? 

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Took over the account. 
Yeah, they took over the the SEC

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account for that one. 
What an idiot. 

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So he's he's going to pay, pay 
his time. 

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In token AirDrop and protocol 
news, Meteora rolled out some 

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big upgrades this morning to 
support apps like the believe 

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app and Time dot fun. 
It features things like single 

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sided fees, dynamic pricing and 
sniper protection and more. 

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Infinex dominated mindshare over
the weekend, folks after the 

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launch of its $6 million Yap run
rewards program. 

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It looks like open Ledger and 
now Huma Finance announced their

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own reward programs this weekend
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So these keep keep coming out. 
Yappers are going to keep 

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yapping and get rewarded for it.
Rounding this out, AI market cap

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fell 5% ten billion Virtual's 
announced its new sticking 

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program as a shift in how its 
virgin points program is going 

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to work. 
Previously you just had to hold 

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passively. 
Now you have to stake those 

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coins to get your points. 
Meme coins are red. 

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The launch coin ecosystem 
holding right around 370 million

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in total size. 
Launch coin holding at 207 

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million. 
Still the leader net KNET was 

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one of the the runners from this
weekend. 

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It reached 12 million. 
A few NFT headlines actually 

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zombie crypto punk. 
One point O 8 million you sell 

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skull of Lucy old for 100 ETH. 
I'm Gandhi. 

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That was their record all time 
high sale for a skull. 

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And then these token works NFTS,
an interesting new project kind 

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of following in some ways like 
that that proof model to a 

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degree. 
They minted out 256 NFTS for one

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ETH each and those are soul 
bound and not tradable. 

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So an interesting project sell 
out there as well. 

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Interesting. 
So wait, what's Steak and Shake?

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Because that we don't have that 
here. 

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Oh you don't? 
Oh man, Steak and Shake is a 

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fast food restaurant that that 
serves more steak forward 

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Burgers, sandwiches, fries. 
Steak and wow, look at their 

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main website. 
Oh, it's got Bitcoin on it? 

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Wow, they're really leaning in. 
I hadn't seen this. 

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It's Liddy right there. 
Yeah. 

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Damn, well he's right there too.
Interesting. 

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Is it good? 
It it's good. 

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It is unhealthy, but it is it is
good, yes. 

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Like, how do you compare it to 
like, I don't know, like Shake 

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Shack for example? 
Oh, I think kind of similar. 

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I think that's a good a good cop
would be Shake Shack. 

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I'm. 
I'm very interested to see what 

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kind of. 
I love how beef tallow has 

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become this thing in the US like
it's. 

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Like what's beef tallow? 
Ended for literally everything, 

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but you haven't heard about beef
tallow. 

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It's like the new thing. 
If you're a man, you're into 

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beef tallow. 
Like you rub it on yourself, you

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eat. 
It Wait. 

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Hold on. 
Hold on. 

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Hold on, hold on. 
Yeah, I've. 

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Not I haven't not heard about 
this. 

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Like not heard. 
About this, the story is like 

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the McDonald's fries. 
The McDonald's fries, the OG 

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ones were made using tallow. 
What's tallow? 

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Like? 
What does it mean? 

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Like what's? 
I've never heard that word. 

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It's like law. 
What's? 

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That can you like rub it on 
yourself? 

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No. 
They like try it. 

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They try the this. 
This has become a thing to have 

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tallow sunscreen. 
This is the thing. 

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It's an alpha male thing to have
beef tallow. 

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Skylar, is this like the liver 
king type thing? 

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Like what do we use this? 
Thing like every recipe, beef 

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tallow is like the thing and 
what I love about it is it's not

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like it's super healthy. 
Like beef tallow is literally 

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fat from a cow. 
So instead of butter, which is 

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fat from a from the milk, right,
or vegetable oil, which is 

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vegetable fat, this is this is 
just fat from a cow. 

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And yet it's seen as like some 
like, Oh my God, it's so it's 

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the healthy way to eat. 
That wait, people are you? 

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You're not joking. 
Like people are actually doing 

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that. 
Brother, it's like the thing. 

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What do you mean is the thing 
like I've never the fuck is 

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wrong with people? 
Yeah, it's because seed also the

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things too long. 
It's just, it's just a a if you 

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want to feel better about eating
fat, you now have beef towel. 

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That's basically what it is, and
it can be used for different 

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things. 
So so Tyler, is that how you 

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bench so so much? 
Like are you rubbing? 

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Beef towel sunscreen with beef 
towel. 

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I just run. 
I rubbed beef towel all over 

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myself and all over my children.
Oh wow, so some people are 

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claiming, well, TikTok, you 
know, TikTok is, is claiming 

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that it healed people's eczema, 
acne and so. 

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What you vinegar, you know. 
Oh, the smell is kind of the 

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downslides. 
This is hilarious. 

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Adam wow. 
Well, beef tallow has a 

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moisturizer down, so that's what
Steak 'n Shake uses. 

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Yeah, they they know they're. 
Well, like it's like it's a 

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marketing thing now. 
OK, I see. 

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It's 100% a marketing thing, 
100% the world is heading 

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towards beef tallow and away 
from seed oils. 

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What does Brian Johnson think of
beef tallow? 

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Can we get a clip of this and 
see if Brian Johnson can answer 

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us? 
Brian. 

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Johnson's vegan. 
Oh, he's vegan. 

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That's OK. 
OK. 

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I, I, I'm running out. 
I, I, I'm, I, I'm behind all 

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these things. 
I, I just started creating like 

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2 weeks ago, you know, I mean 
like, I, I, I'm, I'm getting a 

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little lost in the sauce here or
lost in the tallow. 

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Should I say just? 
Forget all supplements and just 

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have beef tallow and you're like
you're ahead of the curve. 

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Then do this. 
Ahead, you know? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Wow. 

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OK, interesting. 
So beef tallow it is. 

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I'm going to start rubbing my my
hair, my body with with with 

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beef tallow. 
Every everything all right? 

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100 hundred recipes with beef 
tallow plus all hair and skin 

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care routine done with it. 
Do you like also rub it on your 

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thing? 
It's medical in so many ways, 

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you know? 
Got it. 

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Well, all right. 
Well, if you want to fuck like a

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bull, you know. 
OK, Someone dropped beef talo 

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coin. 
That's funny, is it? 

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Oh, there's tofu talo too for 
the vegan crowd. 

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OK. 
Now. 

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You know it's mainstream. 
OK, Tofu talo. 

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All right, this has gone too 
far. 

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We're a crypto focus show, 
Tyler. 

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Yeah. 
What else do we? 

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I'll bring us back, I think, but
somewhat related. 

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So like, who is the person who's
going to use their Bitcoin to 

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buy Steak and Shake food? 
No one. 

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00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,040
If maybe if you're on the 
Bitcoin standard, but this VIP 

452
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:31,600
177 push, a, a part of that push
is making Bitcoin to be more 

453
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,080
spendable because of its unit 
bias. 

454
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,920
So I think when you hold an 
asset that's $103,000, right, it

455
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,720
can be a bit awkward to, to go 
and, and try to buy everyday 

456
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,000
goods. 
So if you're thinking about as a

457
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,480
currency more than just a store 
of value like you're going to, 

458
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:55,880
you're going to pay .00012, you 
know, fractured by something. 

459
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320
Well, what Jack is talking 
about, part of this proposal is 

460
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,960
switching the unit bias to make 
Satoshi's rebranded as Bitcoins.

461
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960
So that's one. 
So there's 100 million Satoshi's

462
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,680
in a Bitcoin. 
So if this went through, the 

463
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:16,400
price of Bitcoin would be 
literally 0.001 O 3 and then if 

464
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,520
you have one Bitcoin now you 
would have. 

465
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,200
Isn't the whole point of SATS? 
Well, they're saying like, sats 

466
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,960
is a bad term, people don't 
understand it. 

467
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,320
Yeah. 
And like it sounds like it's 

468
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,520
something different than Bitcoin
when it's not. 

469
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,240
It's a little weird, right? 
What do you think? 

470
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,720
Like I. 
There's a lot to unpack, I think

471
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240
from a store of that. 
Like I, I feel like there's a 

472
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,040
real like lendiness to Bitcoin 
that the higher it goes, the 

473
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,960
safer it feels. 
Yeah, it's just a little 

474
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,560
confusing. 
You would destroy that with this

475
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,760
unit by a switch. 
But the flip side of that is 

476
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,160
like, I mean, stocks do stock 
splits for a reason, right? 

477
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,520
And I think I was, I was playing
this out on the group chats. 

478
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,680
Like if let's say the the 
scenario where where Bitcoin 

479
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,440
goes to 500 K, are people really
going to put $5000 in and get 

480
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,800
.01 Bitcoin? 
I think there's something to be 

481
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:13,080
said for like accumulating 5000 
Satoshi's or bitcoins versus .01

482
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,400
and the higher it goes more of a
a mental hurdle that will be. 

483
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,560
So I think in from like a 
payment currency side, I think 

484
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,040
it makes a ton of sense. 
From a store of value, perhaps 

485
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,760
it it does not make as much 
sense. 

486
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560
And I think I think it's going 
to be a pretty heavy debate. 

487
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,840
Yeah, this is such a good quote 
Bitcoin is actually scarce. 

488
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,880
There are 2.1 quadrillions of 
them and I think this ruins the 

489
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200
narrative of Bitcoin. 
I I actually think don't I don't

490
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:45,720
think it's a good idea just let 
Bitcoin be Yeah like we've got 

491
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,560
something good going for us in 
crypto, which is Bitcoin like 

492
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,560
the one thing the cycle that's 
really doing really well dude, I

493
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,040
do agree someone's commenting 
it's too early for VIP177. 

494
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,360
Imagine the confusion this 
causes to normies and then if 

495
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,120
Ghani of Wenemuth saying sorry 
Jack with this peak idiotic is 

496
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,960
praying on unit bias not at all 
related to explain how people 

497
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,080
can buy coffee for Bitcoin. 
I kind of agree with that. 

498
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,000
I mean man, what do you think 
they're talking about Bitcoin a 

499
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,920
lot. 
This is like. 

500
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,640
Jack Marla a lot, you know all 
the Bitcoin well, so as soon as 

501
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,880
you do this, they're going to be
like, you know, this is this is 

502
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,840
beneficial for that narrative, 
but it feels a bit scammy to me,

503
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,080
like one Bitcoin. 
Is 1. 

504
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,360
Bitcoin just changed the fucking
unit bias of it. 

505
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,520
Let's yeah, what are we trying 
to fuck with Bitcoin? 

506
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,560
You know what I mean? 
So yeah, I mean, I know so much 

507
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,520
you guys think about that, but I
don't know, it's so like. 

508
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,440
I don't know. 
I think something like this will

509
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,640
happen over. 
I think that's one of my hot 

510
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,680
takes. 
Maybe not this year, maybe it's 

511
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,720
not 100. 
I think we'll see like micro 

512
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960
bitcoins, like a one 1000 
version. 

513
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,680
I think we will see some 
something of that nature because

514
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,120
people want to accumulate more 
than fractions of decimals. 

515
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,640
I guess the alternative and 
someone said well you can buy 

516
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040
like I bet shares which has 
their own unit bias right? 

517
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,680
Yeah, it's true. 
Which is a bit more 

518
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,200
approachable. 
OK, I like the term sats. 

519
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800
I don't know where when that 
just became uncool. 

520
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,760
Two point quadrillion Bitcoin 
sounds like a shit coin. 

521
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,280
It's a big no. 
I mean, it's kind of true, 

522
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,040
right? 
You can't turn. 

523
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,840
Bitcoin, it does lose. 
It's like scarcity a bit when 

524
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,160
you switch from 21 million to. 
Yeah. 

525
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,520
Quadrillion. 
OK, that's, that's interesting. 

526
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,200
1 So when does that like, is 
this something put up for vote? 

527
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,880
Is it like how do we? 
I don't know the details of 

528
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,000
that, so I'll have to dig in, I 
think. 

529
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Yeah, it's a proposal, so it 
would go up for some kind of a 

530
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,640
vote, but I would imagine this 
is something that would have to 

531
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,080
be lengthy discussion plus like,
how would it be implemented like

532
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,680
that? 
There's a lot to unpack. 

533
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,840
Would this be the final straw of
termination for alt coins? 

534
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,040
That's a good question, right? 
Because it would make. 

535
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,520
I mean you we don't need Bitcoin
for most of the things crypto 

536
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:21,800
does, which is price go up. 
Yeah, it would have an impact, I

537
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,680
think. 
And it would still only be 21 

538
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,600
million Bitcoin. 
You're right, DLA in the 

539
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,040
comments. 
That doesn't change anything. 

540
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,040
It just creates this other. 
So like the nomination for a 

541
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,040
piece of Bitcoin, a fragment of 
Bitcoin a bit, let's call it, 

542
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,040
right. 
So so I'm going to follow 

543
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,240
closely. 
I guess we'll see what happens. 

544
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,120
Mando's firing off memes. 
Oh, no, I thought you were 

545
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,720
firing off memes. 
And Tyler, what else you got for

546
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440
us today? 
Yeah, let's see. 

547
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,880
I mean the NFT sales were a big 
headline and over the week that 

548
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,960
that zombie punk movement 4 
point O win in the school of 

549
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Lucy and we talked about 8th 
betas NFTS in the conversation 

550
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720
for for ETH beta. 
Maybe just punks. 

551
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,000
Yeah. 
Are we going to like, how are 

552
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040
other NFTS performing? 
Let's let's have a look. 

553
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400
We haven't looked at because 
like that punk Bitcoin ratio was

554
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,840
doing well. 
You know, punks still low. 

555
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,840
We. 
Took a. 

556
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,280
We took a bath on that eat the. 
Yeah, by the way, this is just 

557
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,160
such an amazing punk. 
This is, yeah, it's not a comic 

558
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,160
zombie. 
That's just such a good zombie 

559
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,720
for $1 million. 
Good sale. 

560
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,840
Let's take a look. 
I mean, let's take a look. 

561
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960
How are NFTS even let's say on 
Eve? 

562
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,520
Specific even even on the week 
roughly like buddies are hanging

563
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,840
on. 
Hold on, let me see something 

564
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,960
open C I just want to look at 
the ETH ones alone but not even 

565
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480
like I know abstract for example
has entities but I just want to 

566
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,080
look specifically on mainnet. 
You should be on a few chains. 

567
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Chains, just Ethereum. 
That's it. 

568
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,560
OK, Yeah, there we are. 
Floor price. 

569
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,200
OK, boy, no, I hate when it does
that. 

570
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,520
I guess we got to do by volume. 
OK. 

571
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,040
I don't know, dude. 
We're not seeing a huge bid by 

572
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,760
any. 
Means it's only punks. 

573
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,760
Punk slide and then you're 
catching some art bids across 

574
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,680
like same as Brad the The Rough 
Heck and It All collection did 

575
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,000
well last week. 
Well Dick butts are up 1.7 ETH. 

576
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Those are up. 
It's actually wild. 

577
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Everything's just kind of been 
stale for the last few years, 

578
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840
right? 
Like Pudgy's at 10 and apes at 

579
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,960
12. 
Seems like what we've seen for a

580
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,880
while doodles that like 
1:00-ish. 

581
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Like this is same price that 
we've seen for the last three 

582
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920
years, I feel. 
The wild card is open seat 

583
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,400
token. 
When? 

584
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,880
When are we going to get it? 
Yeah. 

585
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:03,560
When is that coming? 
My my gut is like not till Q4. 

586
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,720
That's when apps is set to 
launch, right? 

587
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,240
Yeah, if if that's the scenario,
then I feel like NMTS probably 

588
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,200
just go sideways. 
They have like Mona at mega E 

589
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,560
apps. 
Maybe Metamask one day would be 

590
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,360
nice. 
I feel like there's already like

591
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:30,800
farm fatigue. 
Mega ETH Myriad, so yeah, this 

592
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040
comments is great, CEO said 
sometime in 2025, so I assume 

593
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,960
December. 
December 31st. 

594
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,200
December 31st. 
I'm impressed. 

595
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,760
This good vibes club is holding 
a .7 ETH by the way. 

596
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Wow, that's a that's a strong. 
I just noticed. 

597
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Got to give them credit for 
that. 

598
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,160
So they're. 
This is impressive because it's 

599
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
a new collection and what's up 
with abstract? 

600
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Like I I keep seeing NFTS on 
abstract. 

601
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,160
Dremelius had quite the run yo. 
They're back at .19. 

602
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,160
I had an idea. 
I kind of want to outsource my 

603
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:10,480
idea with people. 
OK, what if I moved the rug 

604
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:16,760
radio PFP to abstract? 
Because on ETH, right, you know,

605
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,080
there are Corey Van Loop PF PS 
face the web three. 

606
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,440
I thought about this the other 
week. 

607
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,160
Not that we have time right now,
but if we were to have time, 

608
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760
should I be migrating this apps 
and then giving people like a 

609
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360
multiply or maybe add for having
that as PFP? 

610
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,800
I'm not moving it to Bitcoin 
Bongo. 

611
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200
I can see your comment. 
This is going to cost like 

612
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,720
$1,000,000 to do like. 
Why would? 

613
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Why would anyone move anything 
to? 

614
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,280
It did Bitcoin shit is dead bro.
Like this this not. 

615
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,880
Did I still have all my bongo? 
Move it to Bitcoin bro thinks 

616
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,840
like we have like $10 million to
spend like this alone will cost 

617
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,920
like $1,000,000. 
I'm. 

618
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,440
Genuinely speaking, like do you 
think it should be migrating 

619
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,280
this to abstract? 
I I think it would catch a bit 

620
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,960
over on abstract for sure. 
We get, we get nothing out of 

621
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,080
it. 
Like it's not like creative 

622
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080
revenue is like there's a fee. 
I'm just saying like maybe for 

623
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,160
the people, you know what I 
mean? 

624
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200
Having a connection to Myriad, I
think that's interesting. 

625
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Yeah, like, let's say you have 
this as PFL Myriad, and then 

626
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280
you'd be like, I'm gonna get a 
multiplier for using it. 

627
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,520
And abstract he's heating up to 
looks like people as excited 

628
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,560
people as excited about it. 
No new collection. 

629
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,280
I can't drop more tokens, that's
for sure. 

630
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,920
No new collection. 
That's why I'm thinking that, 

631
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,600
you know what I mean. 
No, no, Yeah, I'm seeing a lot 

632
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,480
of volume on there and it's 
working out. 

633
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,800
What is it portal dot apps dot 
XYZ, right? 

634
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Oh. 
I will say this, I feel like 

635
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
there there's increasing chatter
about abstract on the timeline. 

636
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,360
Yeah, the mantra is good and. 
I don't know that we're quite 

637
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,160
seeing it objectively and all 
the asset prices just yet, but 

638
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,680
there's more folks. 
There's some drama this weekend.

639
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320
With the the token. 
Yeah. 

640
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,880
That Loki dropped and actually 
missed and I missed that. 

641
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,200
I I don't pay attention as much 
anymore. 

642
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,360
I just look and I'm like, look, 
people are fighting again. 

643
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,040
And then and then I just kept 
watching Rod. 

644
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,480
Tokens, folks, it's not a it's 
not. 

645
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120
It's not a great look. 
Yeah, no, looks like there's a 

646
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,639
lot of stuff. 
There's like a meme coins on 

647
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,639
there doing good. 
We did like a collaboration with

648
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:25,920
Rd. 
Tracing this morning. 

649
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,760
Oh nice. 
Yeah, wow, look at this. 

650
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,120
We're second all abstract in 
terms of up votes featured. 

651
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:38,480
Not bad Koken. 
Oh, we're first in trading. 

652
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,120
That's crazy. 
We got to get that that streamer

653
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,360
who who who claims to be the 
number one myriad better. 

654
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,199
We're going to have Oh, he is. 
We're. 

655
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,199
Going to have to get him either 
on FOMO or we're going to have 

656
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:50,760
to do a show with. 
Him we should have him on dude, 

657
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,440
he is this you know bro, he 
broke Myriad. 

658
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,240
So he made a $750 million points
this weekend on a on a on a 

659
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,880
prediction. 
It broke our leaderboard. 

660
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,640
That's why it doesn't update. 
Remember when Gangnam Style 

661
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,560
broke YouTube because it did too
many views. 

662
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,720
The same thing happened behind I
was looking at the abstract dev 

663
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:15,440
chat this morning, Mira dev chat
and because seems like following

664
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,520
up like why this is not updating
and they're like, yeah, it broke

665
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:24,200
the the leaderboard. 
Yeah, what's going on? 

666
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,480
He sounds like a legend and I I 
need some tips. 

667
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,360
Dude, this guy's a fucking Chad 
man 2 billion points. 

668
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,440
Yeah. 
Oh my God, that would be fun. 

669
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640
All right, so let me go ahead 
and guys think about this idea 

670
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,520
of the abstract thing. 
Don't go speculating on our 

671
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,040
PFPS, OK, just said that it's 
just an idea I had. 

672
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,240
The team doesn't have time to do
it, but I'm like, hey, if we 

673
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,720
find someone to help us with it,
like maybe I should just migrate

674
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,120
it to abstract. 
I I like what's going on there, 

675
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,800
you know, pay I pay attention 
somewhat to what's happening in 

676
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,480
NFTS, right Tyler? 
And it's like it's working on 

677
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,000
abstract, you know, seems like 
people want NF TS on L2 right 

678
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,240
now more than they want it on 
L1, you know, so. 

679
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,800
Yeah, I think it's that and I 
think we want to participate in 

680
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,680
you know these pre TG. 
Interesting. 

681
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
And then, Tyler, I want to ask 
you what else you got for me. 

682
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,000
Yeah, let's take a look at this.
This token works. 

683
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Funding works in a team that 
that I the one that meant. 

684
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Oh, I missed that. 
I wish I did. 

685
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Yeah, the one Eastman. 
Yeah. 

686
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,960
So like I I saw this on my 
timeline on Saturday and there 

687
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,440
was like. 
The. 

688
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
And I was like, oh, I'll take a 
look at this later. 

689
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,800
And then Saturday evening I was 
on, I was online and it was 

690
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,560
minting out. 
So actually I did grab 1. 

691
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,040
So disclosure, I've got one of 
these, but what's like the idea 

692
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,280
here behind this, this model is 
to back creators with ETH in a 

693
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,680
in a new way. 
So like these, you're buying 

694
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,120
these antes 1/8 each. 
They're soul bound, so you can't

695
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,400
trade them less, less 
speculative. 

696
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:14,200
You are able to burn them to get
your ETH back over like minus 

697
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,600
whatever the the creator has 
used so that the creator will be

698
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,720
able to unlock the ETH rays via 
the NMT sale over time. 

699
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,280
Like 7% unlocked immediately and
the rest like streams unlocks an

700
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,560
investing model streamed over 
time. 

701
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,640
So they don't get all capital 
upfront. 

702
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,960
So I think how it's different, 
no flipping, no secondary 

703
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,120
market, there's not really a 
whole lot of like promises of of

704
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,360
return, but you are effectively 
betting on this creator versus 

705
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080
betting on a specific product or
project. 

706
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,520
OK. 
The first project is called 

707
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Funding Works and the idea here 
it's a they call themselves a 

708
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,520
studio for on chain 
financialized art and the NFT 

709
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,960
holders will be able to help 
guide the future direction of of

710
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,400
the studio. 
So I think the idea is by 

711
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,400
supporting that collection 
helps. 

712
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,480
I mean, in some ways it is kind 
of like a Kickstarter model I 

713
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,560
guess. 
Interesting. 

714
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,600
And I mean, it's kind of dancing
around like the whole 

715
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,960
securities, what's the security,
what's not a security 

716
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,840
conversation. 
But the idea would be as they 

717
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,520
roll out new projects, new 
products, as an NFT holder, you 

718
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,480
would get first access to that 
and would have some ability to 

719
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,360
participate in potential upside 
there. 

720
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,240
So it's a new model. 
I saw a lot of folks kind of 

721
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:43,880
rallying around it, so it's 
going to take time to play out, 

722
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,720
but I think it's one to watch, 
you know, and then the group is 

723
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,920
doing something a little bit 
different. 

724
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,240
So I think and just put it on 
your radar. 

725
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,480
OK, good. 
Good to know. 

726
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Good to know. 
All right. 

727
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,520
Well, there's that. 
What else? 

728
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,400
I think not much the believe app
ecosystem and it's surviving. 

729
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,320
So I think a lot of, I think the
cause of its death were perhaps 

730
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,560
a little premature. 
Yeah, I look, I don't, I don't 

731
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,080
have any skin in that game. 
I was away. 

732
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,920
I missed the whole move. 
But I I, you know, it's such a 

733
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,600
classic to want something to die
this second. 

734
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,200
It's launches in the space. 
Can I just do my my little bit 

735
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,280
on on this? 
Please go ahead. 

736
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,080
I think we, we, we spent this 
whole last year, last couple 

737
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,560
years, folks want more apps in 
crypto. 

738
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,400
There's not, there's too much 
infrastructure, There's not 

739
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,720
enough to do. 
We have a new app that's trying 

740
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:47,800
to attract real talented 
builders from Web 2 and bring 

741
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,960
them into the crypto space. 
And everyone immediately 

742
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,360
seemingly gets up in arms. 
Now you're just coming to 

743
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,920
extract from us. 
This is not the way we want it. 

744
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,280
And I don't know, I feel like 
this is if you, if you want new 

745
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,720
crypto apps and products like 
this seems like a decent way to 

746
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,160
do that. 
I'm not saying it's the perfect 

747
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,640
way. 
But we've already seen more like

748
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,480
of this, of this cohort of 
builders come and flock to 

749
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,000
crypto in the last week and a 
half. 

750
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Yeah, I think we saw like in in 
months. 

751
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,200
And I've seen the argument that 
it's, you know, we want more 

752
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,400
crypto natives. 
But if you want to grow the pie,

753
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,520
if you want to make this a 
larger pond, you know, with, 

754
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,400
with more players, I think you 
have to figure out ways to 

755
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,680
attract folks from, from outside
our core bubble to bring new 

756
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,400
ideas in. 
So I think my, my, I'm not 

757
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,560
saying go buy it. 
I'm not saying it's worth $200 

758
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,920
million. 
I'm saying maybe just be open to

759
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,720
it and just like let it play out
for more than a week before you 

760
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,240
condemn it as an extraction 
scan. 

761
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:58,120
Yeah, you know what it is? 
I think it's the, I think it's 

762
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,800
because everything does need a 
token. 

763
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
And I think a tokenization of it
is what leaves people feeling 

764
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,160
some type of way like kind of 
like gaming, you know what I 

765
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,440
mean? 
So I agree with you, by the way.

766
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,920
Then that's why I made the 
comment I made. 

767
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,360
So everything is something new. 
We feel the need to like bash 

768
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,320
it. 
But then I look back at like 

769
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,160
crypto gaming and the reason why
gamers hate it is because 

770
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,160
people, people game want a good 
experience, right? 

771
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,600
They don't need the token. 
And then when you tokenize the 

772
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,600
game, it could ruins the 
experience and it brings all 

773
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,880
these farmers and also it's low 
quality very often. 

774
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,000
And then the whole game is led 
by whether a token goes up or 

775
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,200
not. 
And the second the token goes 

776
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,240
down, the experience goes down 
with it. 

777
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Same. 
You could apply that to product 

778
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,440
and it's like, hey, could we 
argue that these products don't 

779
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,600
need to be tokenized in the 
second? 

780
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,960
Like why does this worm game 
need a token? 

781
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,720
And why does the worm game that 
you showed me last week need a 

782
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,840
token that's worth of 20 mil? 
It's supposed to be honest, it's

783
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,400
probably worth like it could 
have been raised at that amount,

784
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,080
right? 
But again, if people want to 

785
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,200
speculate on it, it's their 
problem. 

786
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,760
So there's both sides of the 
metal too. 

787
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,720
It's like, yeah, sure, it 
doesn't need a token, but also, 

788
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,800
hey, there's a token in case 
people want to speculate on it, 

789
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,680
which pays attention because 
tokenization is just a tension, 

790
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,520
right? 
It's just, it's just a marketing

791
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,400
material. 
So and then, but The thing is 

792
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,120
the worm game, let's say it's 
really good and it breaks 

793
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,680
through. 
What happens if the the guy 

794
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,320
keeps building, but token goes 
to 0 people start paying 

795
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,080
attention to the thing, 
therefore the guy stop paying 

796
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,520
attention to it as well. 
And then there's the other part 

797
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,680
of like what people will say, 
well, yeah, the believe app, you

798
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,520
know, you're saying there's a 
lot of great founders is trying 

799
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,320
to bring forward Tyler, but you 
could argue also it brings a lot

800
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,640
of like failed startups that are
just trying to like it's like, 

801
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,000
hey, like I I fucked my startups
to failure. 

802
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Let me just like relaunch it as 
like a believe I have token and 

803
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,720
get people talking about 
Internet capital markets again. 

804
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:51,160
So it's a weird thing, right? 
It's like, I think it's like, I 

805
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,920
don't know whose fault it is. 
I don't know. 

806
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,040
Is it the participants? 
Is it the people that are 

807
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,960
pushing the narrative? 
Is it the like that? 

808
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,160
No, kept my finger on it. 
Yeah, and, and there's a lot of 

809
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,640
noise There's I'm looking at 
there's 21,000 tokens I've 

810
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,640
launched. 
So of course there's about 

811
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,160
21,000 good products. 
In fact, I mean, there's, 

812
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,960
there's probably a handful, 
right, Probably less than a 

813
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,600
dozen like what I'll put what 
I'll call good apps or products,

814
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,800
but that's still a a decent 
amount to be added in this 

815
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,280
ecosystem in just a a short 
period of time. 

816
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,800
As for why you need the token, I
mean, you need some kind of 

817
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,520
incentive to get these guys in 
the door right to, to come 

818
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,880
launch on this app. 
And if you, I don't know, maybe 

819
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
there are better incentive 
models out there, but this one 

820
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,600
seems decent and it is at least 
working here on on the short 

821
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,680
term to get folks in the door. 
But at the end of the day, you 

822
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,600
need the apps need to be good or
else it's just like a House of 

823
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Cards, right? 
They they need to be good apps 

824
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,800
and they need to figure out some
kind of integration that makes 

825
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,240
sense for the potential token or
or way to have a community of 

826
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:04,040
token holders be engaged in the 
future of the app and. 

827
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,960
Yeah, no. 
One's unlocked that yet, but 

828
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,360
it's still early. 
I think my my whole point is 

829
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,080
just give them time. 
Like let's see if someone can 

830
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,760
figure this out. 
Yeah, yeah, that I agree. 

831
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,760
I guess we'll see, man. 
You just did a few that stand 

832
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,000
out and it's done, you know what
I mean? 

833
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,120
And also people don't have to 
buy them all. 

834
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,000
So it's also the participant. 
But I think it's crazy to try 

835
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,080
and knock the Believe app or 
something for trying something 

836
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,080
new. 
Like this is cool. 

837
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,800
Fuck it, you know, it's bringing
attention to it and that's that.

838
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,720
You know, it's like a pump fun, 
but for it's a pump fun but for 

839
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,080
products. 
And I don't argue that you 

840
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,240
shouldn't be buying any of these
new tokens until you've had a 

841
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,400
chance to like. 
Yeah, but you know, people don't

842
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,040
do that. 
You know what I mean? 

843
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,280
You don't and just don't 
complain. 

844
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,720
So then then you're just playing
a meme coin game. 

845
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,240
Yeah, just another game you're 
playing. 

846
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:56,800
And it's a it's rocket game. 
In a way, that's kind of what I 

847
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,920
like about these things is that 
you can play the game different 

848
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,000
ways. 
You can be the investor that 

849
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480
looks into it and decides to 
take a position, let's say a 

850
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,880
week after. 
It's like, Hey, I'll buy it at 

851
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,280
like $10 million market cap, but
like, at least I'll go with a 

852
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,800
good position. 
And then because I like the 

853
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,480
product, you can be the mean 
coin gambler, which is like, 

854
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,600
fuck it, I'll buy 21,000 tokens.
Like I'll just buy them all and 

855
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,800
see what sticks. 
And then you can be just the 

856
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,000
sideliner that just like, you 
know, just looks at it and see 

857
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,880
if it sticks. 
And then just in this invest in 

858
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,840
the believe app itself, like the
belief token, right? 

859
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,960
Was it, what is it called? 
Launch coin? 

860
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,720
Launch coin because it's the, 
it's the launch pad for it. 

861
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,840
Also, it's interesting. 
We'll see if it sticks and I 

862
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,720
hope it does because you know, 
we need more of of those things 

863
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,840
on, on your first year.
