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Yo-yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning, Good morning MGM. 
Thursday baby. 

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Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, 
March 26th, 7th March 27th, 

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2025. 
Look at that another beautiful 

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day to have a beautiful day. 
I got my coast in the house. 

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Tyler Mando good morning, good 
morning, good morning, good 

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morning. 
How you guys doing? 

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I'm doing fantastic. 
How are you? 

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I I'm doing fantastic as well. 
Actually, I'm doing fantastic as

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well. 
I woke up for the first time in 

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four days where it's sunshine, 
so it's always lightens up my 

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mood when I wake up to sunlight.
It's nice. 

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Do you wake up to sunlight every
day in Portugal? 

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Is it like 300 days of like sun 
it? 

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Is 300 days of sun. 
But today it's it's like, it's 

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like mixed. 
There's some sun this morning. 

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Got you beat today, Tyler. 
What's up Tyler, how you doing? 

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I'm good broke. 
I feel like you hate Wednesdays,

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you love Thursdays. 
So we we have the the hot energy

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coming in here today. 
I I wish I could have appeared 

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as the gibblefied version of. 
Of yeah, yeah, you know, that 

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would be fire, right? 
Gibbley, like just everyone. 

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Gibbley like hosts the show as 
like Studio Ghibbley. 

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That could be really fun. 
Is Gibbley is a Ghibbley by the 

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way? 
I don't know, I've only seen it 

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written. 
I've never heard someone say it.

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Because like I said, ghibbley. 
Because GH is that, but it's 

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kind of like, it reminds me of 
the GIF. 

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If there's GIF argument, you 
know what I mean. 

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You guys say GIF or you say GIF?
GIF. 

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GIF Tyler, what do you say? 
I said GIF but I I mispronounced

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a lot of things. 
So I, I knew you were a GIF guy.

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I don't know why I I just had a 
feeling we're a GIF guy. 

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It's very American of you. 
I think it's very American. 

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Say GIF and it's very like non 
American say GIF, right. 

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What you guys say GIF or GIF 
chat? 

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Let us know. 
I see. 

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I see Bongo. 
You say GIF or you say GIF. 

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GIF. 
You say Gibbly or you say 

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Gibbly. 
Wait, Gibbly. 

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There you go. 
I can't like having Bongo 

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hanging out on stage. 
Pull up Bongo's Twitter, I got 

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to see if this is real. 
He posted this food picture of 

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all the stuff he bought for $40.
In Europe. 

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Let's ask Mando if this is real.
Mando Bongo says that he bought 

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all this for $40 in Europe. 
Do you think this is real or 

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fake? 
That's very real. 

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Yeah, I think so as well. 100% 
real. 

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Bongo real or fake? 
It's real. 

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Yeah, what I like. 
EUR or dollars? 

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Because that's different, 
because the euro is quite 

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stronger. 
No, it's like $2.00 different. 

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But yeah, this, this was $40. 
Wow. 

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This is true, man. 
Tyler, this is this is, this is 

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the truth. 
This is the truth. 

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In the US, so let me just. 
Let me take you a pay your 

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picture here. 
I when I go to New York, I take 

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the I take a Uber into town 
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OK, cost me well, maybe about 
100. 

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OK. 
Fine, I get in the Uber when I 

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get from Lisbon or we have Bolt 
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popular. 
Cost me €6 and it's a 35 minute 

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journey. 
This is true. 

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I, I know that for a fact. 
I can, I can, I can check. 

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This is real because that last 
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when we went to check out the 
poker, the Myriad team and then 

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we're there doing a fest. 
I was stuck in traffic 45 

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minutes and it cost me about 
€12.00 because it was like 

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premium. 
So you got a comfort or 

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regularly would have been €6, 
right? 

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I paid 12 EUR, 45 minutes. 
I actually felt so bad that I 

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tipped like 50%. 
Yeah, like a like a standard 

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Uber ride, like from just one 
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That would be like €3. 
Yeah, I actually felt bad. 

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So I like doubled the guy's 
journey because I was like this.

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Surely these people can't be 
making enough money and and 

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that's what it is. 
It is worth in Montreal is the 

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same. 
I know Tally, you were shocked 

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by the press, that thing, but 
I'm in your camp in Montreal 

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like whatever Bongo just posted.
If I go to my local little 

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organic food shop that I shop at
downstairs, you know what's the.

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What's the Super expensive one 
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Oh, everyone we don't have. 
OK, that's that's the thing. 

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Danny told me one day he paid 
like $75.00 for a bottle of 

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water, bottle of water. 
It's like this like crazy water 

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bottle. 
That's only Danny would do that,

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right? 
But anyways, today on the show, 

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we're not going to talk about 
the price of things. 

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But yeah, Tyler, it is like 
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But rent is more expensive. 
But I maybe not versus USA 

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versus me, like I'm shopping in 
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I thought I would live like a 
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Everyone looks like I may live 
in the shack with my budget. 

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I got Mendel sending right. 
Is expensive. 

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That's one thing that is 
expensive here because you have 

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a lot of people who are digital 
nomads. 

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Yeah, but you do spend less on 
everything else and. 

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Everything else is. 
Wages, it's a comp, but like I'm

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going my rent is going to be up 
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But Montreal rent is ridiculous.
This is true. 

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This is true. 
Well, also because I earned U.S.

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dollars in Canada. 
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right Mandel? 
Right. 

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The Canadian dollar but you're 
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is insanely cheap and you live 
good if you earn dollars in USD.

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Anyways. 
I should be hiring in Canada 

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instead of hiring people in 
fucking America dude. 

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Americans are expensive anyway. 
Side note, Americans are 

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expensive but even even salaries
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guess they have more like 
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But it's actually pretty crazy 
when you think about it from a 

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business owner perspective. 
USA is really hella expensive 

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anyways. 
Well, USA is great, though. 

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USA is great. 
Ferrari is going to increase 

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their crisis by 10% to offset 
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Just saw that just then. 
So, Tyler, looks like you're 

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going to have to pay 10% more 
for for your for your incoming 

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Ferrari. 
Yeah. 

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You know, Yeah. 
It's a good time to sell your 

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exotic cars if you're in 
America, because you could 

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probably bank on that. 
Yeah. 

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Mr. G Ferroux's getting some 
biceps. 

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Thank you. 
Yeah, I'm working that a lot. 

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I worked out a lot. 
We're hitting. 

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If I go today, supposed to be my
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gonna be 5050 for the year, so 
not bad. 

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We're we're there. 
We're, we're getting ripped. 

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You know, it's got to got to be 
ready for Lisboa. 

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You know, they're wearing a lot 
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And I'm going to going to hit it
anyways today on the show. 

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I'd also have to be paid more to
live in the US, says rug radio 

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account. 
Jesus Christ, intern Eddie 

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market report. 
We'll talk about the market. 

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Market is a bit lower today, but
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too. 
I like it. 

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So we'll talk about that. 
Then we have then we have 

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Tyler's top 100 or 1000. 
I mean, fuck, Tyler probably has

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a lot of stuff to cover. 
There's a lot of things 

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happening right now. 
It's a walrus opening 2 billion.

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Holy shit. 
We'll talk about all that good 

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stuff and then we have a guest 
coming on today. 

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We have today's show partner 
coming on facet, which is an L2 

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focus on RWA. 
So I'm actually curious about 

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what they're doing. 
So they're going to come on and 

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then last but not least, robot 
loot box bins. 

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Let's see. 
Let's see what y'all get. 

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I yet to have to set the loot 
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I'll do it during the show, but 
as usual, going to probably put 

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a high chance of winning a 
Penguin, kind of want to get a 

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Penguin win. 
So I'm going to push for that 

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and then and then there as well,
red guys got swept. 

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Nice fuck red guy man keeps 
getting swept these days. 

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I keep having that in your red 
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That's a good sign, I guess. 
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Trust me, it's like free money 
like the points program on on 

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You can use myriad points for 

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free literally $0.00 needed and 
there's a there's a leader board

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right now. 
Let me see where I am. 

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Was I booted from the leader 
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I know usually my team likes to 
kick me out, so I can't 

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participate. 
I mean I clearly can't win, but 

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I but I'm curious Oh no, I was 
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But there's over 20,000 people 
participating guys in this 

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thing. 
I'm torn 50th right now top 

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predictor in the Wally Connect 
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That's not too bad. 
That's not too bad out of 

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26,000, not bad, no, I'm bad. 
It's like top 1%, right? 

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Something like that. 
So anyways, with that Mando, how

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is this market doing? 
Where is this market going? 

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Taylor Senpai, who is the man 
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Can you dig it? 
Hello everyone. 

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So it doesn't feel that great 
the last 24 hours. 

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The main thing there has just 
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worries and stocks kind of 
continuing to to kind of sell 

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off. 
We, we went below the 200 day 

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moving average again in the S&P,
which is quite an important 

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level kind of may indicate that 
we're going to continue this 

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downtrend for a little bit 
longer than was initially 

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expected. 
A lot of those are oversold. 

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Oversold metrics are now not as 
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So that's not really going to 
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Interestingly, gold just 
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So and and and for that reason 
again, Bitcoin is is starting up

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performing. 
Here. 

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Wow. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Gold, gold, gold is is doing 
well again and Bitcoin's kind of

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holding on to that a little bit,
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So we're not, we're not getting 
yesterday was not great for 

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crypto, but it wasn't, it wasn't
horrific again, even though the 

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the NASDAQ was down 2% again. 
NVIDIA was down a lot, right? 

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Yeah, yeah, a lot of big tech 
again, getting hammered. 

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I mean, a lot of this AI 
weakness may continue, right? 

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We've spoken about how the China
stuff may be, may be important 

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there and can and can be a 
persistent worry for a lot of 

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these major AI firms. 
So Microsoft flipped in a video 

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actually yesterday. 
Oh wow, yeah. 

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And a lot of them kind of 
invidious again down today. 

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A lot of them are like just 
looking a little bit bearish. 

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It feels like. 
I don't know if they're going to

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turn it around or, or, or 
whatever, but that that is 

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definitely keeping crypto 
slightly, yeah, slightly range 

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bound. 
Like people bullish. 

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I think on on crypto, there's 
some individual stories which 

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are doing relatively well. 
Like you can kind of see the 

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coins that the market likes at 
the moment. 

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It means it's probably kind of 
just fartcoin and and Pepe. 

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I would say I've probably been 
the strongest too. 

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I. 
Haven't looked at Pepe in a 

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while. 
It's just held up OK, what I 

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would say. 
And then in in L ones, it feels 

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as though Bitcoin AVAX has held 
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over the last few days and and 
Sonic I would say as well 

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probably. 
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Those have been like the best 
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onto their gains. 
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lower again. 
I don't think that's maybe not 

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there's. 
Just one. 

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It's 137 ish. 138, yeah. 37 
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hold on to the gains really 
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again. 
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becoming obvious. 
I think like if I go to the most

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the gainers over the last week, 
it's kind of been the same coins

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for a bit there. 
Oh, Tonya Barrow again, number 

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7% a sui wow, Baratin guys is 
really like, I mean that has 

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been a great coin to hold during
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Has been a great coin, like we 
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Loved the interview yesterday 
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Has caught a lot of the AI move 
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liquidity people people are 
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So defy coins in general have 
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yeah. 
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are continuing to be the 
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the odd meme, the the like the 
daily runner isn't really 

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holding on for that long, it 
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And there are attempts to kind 
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does still feel like memes are 
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and MFTS are doing OK too. 
That that, let's say that would.

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I'd say that's. 
Yeah, punks are doing great. 

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But two what are you laughing? 
Yeah, it's just I didn't. 

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Say pups, I said. 
Punks. 

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Pups is always doing good man. 
We don't have to worry about 

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pups. 
Pups. 

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Goes UPS. 
Hey, NFTS are doing great. 

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Fucking ooty. 
Just fucking like bank like $20 

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million, brother. 
How about that Bitcoin spread 

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baby? 
We're. 

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Yeah, how about that punk 
Bitcoin spread, baby? 

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Let's pull up Tyler's spread. 
I mean, are we up 8086? 

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Five versus versus versus? 
Drum roll, 85, eight. 

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Not bad, not bad. 
It's honestly one to one. 

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It's been 1 to one forever. 
Yeah, it's, it's about the same.

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Clearly somebody else was in 
this trade like I, I didn't 

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really know. 
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saying is the macro fears. 
So macro fears back Mando and I 

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want to ask you. 
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seeing, I think Tyler, you 
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chat is we got a lot of like 
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headlines again and you're 
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Tariff, tariff, tariff. 
That's obviously, yeah, we're 

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waiting for Liberation Day next 
Wednesday on April 2nd. 

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But Mando, it appears that we 
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these headlines. 
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past month or so where like 
every single tariff headline, we

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just lost $1000 a headline on 
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Like we just kept hammering 
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Do you think we just went to 
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Now we're just cruising for the 
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the market. 
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there was a report out 
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US think there's going to be 
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crash. 
There's a lot of worry that 

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this, that the valuations in AI 
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here. 
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being like, oh, this is going to
be exact sameas.com. 

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It doesn't look as aggressive 
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as.com, but I don't think people
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like Tesla bounced, for example,
and NVIDIA bounced a little bit.

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But it doesn't feel like, I 
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like people who are a bit 
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They're like waiting to see how 
the next few months evolve. 

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It's very clear, like with AI 
that you can catch up with each 

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other just like unbelievably and
it's still difficult where like 

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where, how to actually create 
value with these or if you can 

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even hold on to value in that 
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So I, I think that's like a 
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market right now. 
OK. 

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Liberation Day. 
Liberation Day, What do you 

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think happens? 
Any big moves before then? 

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What do you think happens Tyler,
you love your liberation day. 

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What is your? 
What is your outlook on a? 

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Few things have happened. 
So like in the auto tariffs, I 

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think part of the language that 
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and non negotiable. 
So I think that was one of the 

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first times we've seen these 
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So like that is telling us that 
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tariffs are real and they're 
going to be here for a while. 

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So like the whole camp that 
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negotiation tactics, at least 
for some of these, that's that's

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out the that's out the window. 
So I think that's. 

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That's a bearish indicator. 
I would say that that that's my 

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read on it. 
On the flip side, we have seen 

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some of the some of the 
countries who are facing 

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reciprocal tariffs start to 
unwind their tariffs like 

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Vietnam was one. 
I've seen a few other countries 

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as well. 
I think India rescinded some 

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tariffs that they had. 
So we'll see if we get like a 

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mixed bag of results here in the
next. 

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That could be a little bit on 
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I think we'll have more 
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week. 
I'm no macro tariff expert, but 

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that's what I've seen and it 
just feels like no one's really 

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going to. 
We're not going to see any major

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moves until a little bit more 
concrete info is out. 

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OK. 
The countries are going to 

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handle these. 
OK, OK. 

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OK, OK, OK. 
OK. 

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So I guess we'll see what this 
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near future. 
So I'm trying to post this 

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broadcast link just for us to 
know we are live every day on 

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audio and video. 
You can check us out on the rug 

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radio YouTube, but also we 
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broadcast thing has never gone 
better, to be honest. 

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And you can always, you know, 
comment live on the show 

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anyways. 
So with that, Tyler, let's get 

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into let's get into today's 
topics. 

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Let's get into what you got 
first. 

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MP and crypto analysis. 
Tyler T on FOMO Hour calls the 

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kids. 
Hand crypto major slightly red 

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amidst more tariff news 25% on 
all automobiles outside the US. 

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Bitcoin down a 6004. 
You can slow down about a 

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percent or so here as well. 
Hyper Liquid fell 10% on the day

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after the protocol was left with
short exposure to the Jelly 

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Jelly meme coin, which soared to
$50 million. 

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Testing the network's integrity,
Hyper Liquid validators 

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ultimately voted to perform an 
automated liquidation of the 

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position at a lower price point 
than their Oracle showed. 

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So that situation is resolved, 
though still some fallout coming

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from that. 
GameStop announced plans for a 

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debt offering to raise 1.3 
billion to two point. 

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So 2 days ago they approved 
bitcoins and treasury asset. 

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One day ago, OK, they're going 
to buy $1.3 billion worth. 

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So that was huge news. 
The blockchain group out of 

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France also bought 580 Bitcoin 
for its balance sheet. 

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That was €47 million worth. 
In stablecoin news, several US 

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legislators have shared plans to
advance stablecoin and crypto 

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market legislation over the next
few days. 

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I think we got a first glimpse 
of that stable act yesterday. 

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Wyoming announced plans for 
their own stablecoin, yst, 

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launching as soon as July, just 
what everyone in Wyoming wants, 

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their own stablecoin. 
And then USDC hit a new record 

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market cap crossing $60 billion 
and now command 25% of the 

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overall stablecoin market. 
And then Fidelity, they're 

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throwing their hat in the ring 
and they announced they're 

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testing their own stablecoin as 
well as they dive deeper into 

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tokenization, not necessarily 
crypto related, but Robin Hood 

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folks, they are going full on 
financial services mode. 

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They announced a new banking 
product, they announced a new AI

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powered wealth management 
product and more. 

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In token AirDrop protocol news, 
Walrus, they officially launched

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their main net and that wall 
token dropped folks open at 500 

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million and a $2 billion FTV. 
Huge launch over on Swede this 

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morning. 
Radium is preparing to launch 

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their pump fund competitor 
Launch Lab that's coming within 

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the next week. 
Polymarket admitted some market 

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manipulation took place by UMA 
Wales with the recent Ukraine 

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Minerals market bet stating 
though that it couldn't offer 

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compensation but will work with 
UMA to prevent this from 

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happening in the future. 
IDO announced $5000 in weekly 

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rewards for the top 50 appers 
and top 50 emerging appers. 

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So keep yapping. 
Then shout to Wasabi. 

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They open pre deposits for the 
baritone opening with offering 

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up to 300%. 
APY plus points for those 

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deposits. 
Rounding this out in AI and 

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memes, the NFTS AI down about 7%
on the day. 

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Leaders are down about three to 
10% across the board. 

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Memes similar down about three 
to 10%. 

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Ghibli was the meme runner of 
the day, $23 million right now, 

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$75 million in 24 hour volume. 
So. 

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Jesus Christ. 
We've had in quite some time in 

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NF, TS, Taproot Wizards, they 
shared new details. 

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That Dutch auction is happening 
today, I think. 11:00 AM 

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Eastern, right? 
After it's happening in half an 

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hour, Yeah. 
And you can bid and Seoul. 0.42 

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Bitcoin decreases by point O1 
Bitcoin every 3 minutes and then

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it's also viable and Solana like
you mentioned, forgotten 

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universe flashback they're they 
launched their game, the access 

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mode RIP cash artist sold 64 
editions of pattern recognition 

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for 2.22 each pretty hefty sale 
there. 

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NBA Top Shot They're still 
cooking. 

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They they debuted a fresh 
marketplace upgrade. 

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OK. 
A tab and a new way to filter 

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their moments. 
So Top Shot still still moving 

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over there. 
Wow, this is this is a lot. 

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I mean what do we even I think 
GameStop right like we feel like

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this is the most fun relevant to
to majors news. 

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That was that was out there that
those guys, man, I, I fuck with 

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them. 
They they're like non-stop doing

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the thing and buying Bitcoin. 
I mean, who's going to be next? 

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What is it $1.3 billion Bitcoin 
buy they're announcing? 

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Yeah, that's the thing. 
So GameStop has three to $4 

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billion in cash on hand and and 
they're not using it. 

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They, they are going to raise 
1.3 billion through a private 

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offering of convertible senior 
notes and debt. 

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And then they're going to use it
to acquire Bitcoin. 

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And as they also announced as a 
part of this, they're, they're 

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going to close a significant 
number of stores in 2025 as, as 

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a, as ongoing efforts to enhance
profitability. 

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So it feels like they're kind of
going that micro strategy route 

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right where they, they had an 
actual company model. 

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Maybe it's a little bit of a 
zombie company, it's a meme 

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stock. 
And now they're pivoting to a 

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Bitcoin company and it doesn't 
feel like they're going to be 

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the one, right? 
Like we were talking about this 

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in our group chat yesterday. 
It, it felt like, you know, 

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there's maybe 50 companies or so
who have significant stockpiles 

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of Bitcoin right now. 
It feels like that number is 

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going to annex in the next 
couple of years, at least that's

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my reading because it sure feels
like it's accelerating. 

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Headlines like this are 
accelerating right now. 

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What does that mean for my alts?
I'm just kidding. 

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What does that mean for pups? 
That's the question. 

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That's the question. 
I mean it is on Bitcoin. 

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It is on Bitcoin. 
What does that mean for the 

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Taproot Wizards? 
Probably nothing anyways. 

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I don't love this by the way. 
So why, why, why don't you love 

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this? 
I don't. 

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As I've said before, I don't 
like it when public companies 

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are raising convertible notes. 
Convertible is debt, right? 

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What I was speaking about with 
with Sailor is that that it's OK

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if it's if it's if it's pref 
shares. 

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But if GameStop were to go 
under, of which there's been 

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several times in its past where 
that could happen, that's 1.3 

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billion coming and it will get 
sold. 

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So you are kind of teeing 
yourself up for here for like 

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00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,960
precarious scenarios in the 
future where yeah, it could get 

450
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,840
sold and in not a like a nice 
way. 

451
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,520
So GameStop, I'm saying they 
have roughly 4.8 billion in 

452
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,360
cash, in cash. 
Why walk walk us all through? 

453
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:06,800
Why would they choose not to use
that and go this debt route 

454
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,240
instead? 
Because it is a riskier. 

455
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,720
Yeah, because debt, debt is OK 
for like if you're in your map, 

456
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,360
if you run GameStop, right? 
Yeah. 

457
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,440
Do you want to dilute yourself 
or do you like it's debt is good

458
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,360
for management and at times it 
can be good for equity holders. 

459
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,400
Like there's some stuff in like 
capital structure formation 

460
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,760
about that. 
But in a case of a bankruptcy or

461
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,560
a company that is club has been 
or you know, never. 

462
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,880
I don't know what Gamestop's 
free cash flow is. 

463
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,960
Let me just have a look at it. 
GameStop free cash flow last 

464
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,760
year, but I imagine they're 
burning cash. 

465
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,000
Who knows. 
Yeah, they so they burnt 225 

466
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,120
million of free cash for last 
year. 

467
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,520
So this company is like, it's 
probably fine. 

468
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,760
That's not crazy versus cash 
balance, but in the past it's 

469
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,960
been through a lot of trouble. 
And then like, I wouldn't, I 

470
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,600
would never bet that in 20 years
GameStop doesn't go under. 

471
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,480
And and then that that can lead 
to a messy, messy sale 

472
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,800
essentially. 
And maybe it's OK, it's only 

473
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,920
1.3. 
But if, if they continue to do 

474
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480
this and they raise like 10, 
that's not, I mean, that's a 

475
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,600
risk. 
Again, that becomes like sailor 

476
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,960
style. 
And not everybody's sailor. 

477
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,120
In many ways said he's in a much
better like his free cash flow 

478
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,280
burn is is basically very, it's 
very low because he actually 

479
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600
does have a residual business 
which covers quite a lot of the 

480
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,480
interest expense. 
GameStop is burning 250 million 

481
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,680
of free cash flow. 
Fuck. 

482
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,360
Wow. 
OK, so like all these it's. 

483
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,480
Crazy. 
But it's like, you know, that 3 

484
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,200
billion is is going down lower 
and lower and lower each year at

485
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,640
the moment. 
And in the past, it's been far 

486
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,120
higher than that. 
BLS is asking you. 

487
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,280
He's saying they have a ton of 
cash on hand. 

488
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,200
What's the issue with raising 
debt when they have 4X what 

489
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,760
they're raising in cash and then
the switching to a Bitcoin 

490
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520
strategy help them avoid going 
under? 

491
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,040
So does it, does it help them 
avoid going under that? 

492
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
That is a relative question, 
right? 

493
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,680
Yes, it may, it may improve 
their ability to not go under. 

494
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,680
But if they go under, it's worse
for us, right? 

495
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,000
Like, I don't care if GameStop 
goes under right now, but like, 

496
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,320
does it, does it, does it make 
it a less? 

497
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,920
You could say, yeah, Bitcoin's 
better for them as a, as a, 

498
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,120
something to hold. 
But that that does that means 

499
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,360
that suddenly your Bitcoin does 
have a default risk. 

500
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,040
And that's just not really the 
case elsewhere. 

501
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,400
OK I understand this is about my
pay grade. 

502
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,000
I just hope none of this fucks 
up because then it fucks up my 

503
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,600
bags and all that. 
Just step back. 

504
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,920
Companies raising debt, which is
happening a lot to buy Bitcoin 

505
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,160
is like, if your friend did 
that, right, your friend comes 

506
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,360
to you and says, hey, I'm going 
to raise a billion dollars and 

507
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:55,520
let's say they have a lot of 
money already, but I'm going to 

508
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,840
raise some debt to do that. 
You might think that I don't 

509
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,760
know, maybe my friend goes 
bankrupt in 10 years. 

510
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,000
OK then. 
What happens in in a bankruptcy 

511
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840
scenario often? 
You have to upload. 

512
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,880
It doesn't even have control 
about what's going to happen. 

513
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,400
It can. 
Get very mad, right? 

514
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520
So that's what happens. 
And what we're seeing here is a 

515
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,320
bunch of our friends are saying,
hey, we're going to raise some 

516
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,480
debt to buy Bitcoin and that 
that that's not necessarily a 

517
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,120
good thing. 
It, it, it, yes, it's good for 

518
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,840
pumping our bags in the short 
term, but in the medium term, if

519
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,800
you have a bunch of debt against
Bitcoin, that can mean that that

520
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,360
things can go wrong. 
So. 

521
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,000
I'm I'm talking long, longer 
term, like, yeah, it's like, I 

522
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,880
don't know, I don't think game 
stocks going under in the next 

523
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,240
year. 
Like no, I see what you mean 

524
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,040
cash and it's burning 
250,000,000. 

525
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,640
Like, you know, it's that's 12 
years of free cash to burn there

526
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,200
unless they want to do something
else. 

527
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,960
But but who knows? 
Gamestop's made some terrible 

528
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,280
decisions in the past, so. 
They have, but maybe they're on 

529
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,960
the pathway to making better 
decisions or. 

530
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Not maybe. 
I wouldn't. 

531
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,600
I wouldn't look at Gamestop's 
credit rating. 

532
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,840
Out of the whole thing, I like 
that they're doing it with 

533
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,720
Michael than kind of on their 
own. 

534
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Like it looks like they could be
advised better, right, right. 

535
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,680
But I see your concern very 
valid. 

536
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,440
I don't know if Tyler's have 
more thoughts on that, but 

537
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760
that's that's actually a very 
valid point Mando's bringing 

538
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,760
forward. 
How is Meta Planet doing it 

539
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040
versus GameStop, for example? 
What's the difference here? 

540
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
They do a mix. 
They do a mix. 

541
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,960
A lot of it's been equity and I 
need to I, I they're not as big 

542
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:42,560
in general metaplanic Bitcoin 
holdings as as got it. 

543
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,560
So I'm really asking ChatGPT 
these sort of questions. 

544
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,200
They have 3350 Bitcoin as of 
March 25th, 2025. 

545
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,000
So I don't know what that in 
dollars, but does something. 

546
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,120
You had 86,000. 
They have 276,000,000, right? 

547
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Yeah. 
It's about 290 million these 

548
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,720
prices. 
So it's smaller, that's 

549
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880
significantly smaller. 
How much, how much debt do they 

550
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,840
have? 
I'm just going to ask how much 

551
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,840
do they have? 
This is always the word like 

552
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,000
liquidate, sailor. 
Like if you if you do this with 

553
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,720
debt, there's always a 
liquidate. 

554
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,160
There's. 
Always a liquidating point. 

555
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,480
So they've been doing debt 
sales, but like smaller, like 

556
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440
there was an article from 2024 
hours, they're like doing a $11 

557
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,760
million debt sale. 
So they've been doing like 

558
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,160
smaller batches versus? 
Right. 

559
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:33,400
That's that's so they have 75 
million of debt. 

560
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,200
So yeah, it's not, it's still 
not great, but it's not, it's 

561
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,160
not as good as what Sailor is, 
but it's better than when these 

562
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,520
guys have. 
OK, that's fair. 

563
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,120
That's that's a good point. 
I like that. 

564
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880
I like that intern. 
That's a good clip. 

565
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Let's ask the people. 
What do you think after that? 

566
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Post this up, Tyler. 
There was a few other things I 

567
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,480
see. 
I see Jose in the studio. 

568
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,680
We'll go. 
We'll get to you in about 

569
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,200
7:00-ish minutes to talk about 
what you're building. 

570
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,960
But Tyler, what else do you have
for us? 

571
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,080
It feels like you had quite a 
few things. 

572
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,160
A. 
Few things and I want to talk 

573
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,080
about hyper liquid here in a 
second because we talked about 

574
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,320
yeah. 
We have to, yeah. 

575
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240
I quickly want to talk about the
Stable Act of 2025. 

576
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,560
So we had the full text released
yesterday. 

577
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Nick Cannon broke it down. 
Some highlights here. 

578
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,240
No yield bearing stables are 
going to be included, so those 

579
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,200
are prohibited. 
Banks, credit unions, non banks 

580
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,920
are approved to issue them. 
They have to be 1 to one 

581
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,560
reserves of cash, treasury bills
less than 93 days, or other 

582
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,000
highly liquid safe assets. 
Let's see. 

583
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,560
States can certify their own 
stable coin regimes as well, but

584
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,520
they have to meet or exceed the 
federal standards and the no 

585
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,160
algo stables or at least the 
next two years. 

586
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,680
So those are the the quick 
highlights. 

587
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,880
We'll see how these progress. 
It does seem like, at least from

588
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,800
what the congressmen are telling
us, this is a priority right 

589
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,920
now. 
They're trying to push these 

590
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,520
through Congress. 
So expect more news on that 

591
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,720
front. 
I think that's the story. 

592
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400
I do want to talk about hyper 
liquid now. 

593
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,720
So we, we went through what was 
happening yesterday on the show 

594
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,680
and then shortly after, say 
probably within about 30 minutes

595
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,040
after we close out our 
conversation, we got the 

596
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,240
resolution. 
Effectively, they implemented 

597
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,720
this rule where if, if someone 
is exploiting the protocol, it 

598
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000
goes against their terms of 
service, they have the option to

599
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,880
perform this automated 
liquidation. 

600
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,960
So effectively, I think as I 
understood it, Jill Jilly was 

601
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,040
trading around $40 million and 
they liquidated the position at 

602
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,440
around a $9 million price point 
after hyper liquid validators 

603
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,520
voted to do that. 
So that that's my situation. 

604
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,720
Mando, I don't know if you have 
a better read on on how it 

605
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880
played out. 
I thought, I thought initially 

606
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,400
the finance and OK X have been 
the good guys and taking over 

607
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240
their position. 
Since that they weren't. 

608
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,800
And it seems as though actually 
this was them now, everyone. 

609
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,240
It was crime season, baby, like 
crime from everyone, like I are 

610
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,200
they the one that did The Who 
did the Jelly Jelly? 

611
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,680
Who knows, But like let's say 
that person's a independent 

612
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,640
third person. 
Maybe you'd call that crime or 

613
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520
like you say that an XI, don't 
know if that's crime. 

614
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,640
But can I ask you if this is 
crime if a hyper liquid platform

615
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,800
allowed this for this to happen?
I think what hyper liquid did 

616
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640
was the most crime. 
Because the Oracle thing is not 

617
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680
like they're calling it 
suspicious market activity that 

618
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,560
goes against the term services. 
Therefore they settle for their 

619
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,480
own Oracle price. 
Is that what happened, Mando? 

620
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,880
I, I, I mean, it's, it is a grey
area because like, is that 

621
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,520
market manipulation or not? 
Or is that just that's crypto? 

622
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Like you put, they were the 
people that put that on there. 

623
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840
They put the LP on there. 
Like, like they knew the LP of 

624
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,600
the position they had on there. 
And it's a, and then it's a 

625
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,120
market for other people to see 
that exploit or see that that 

626
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,400
risk and go for it. 
That's not a there there must 

627
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560
have been hundreds of people 
involved in buying Jelly Jelly 

628
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:11,680
yesterday, right. 
So for me, I feel like hyper 

629
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,800
liquid were the ones that did 
the most crime, but they I maybe

630
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840
would have done the same. 
I mean, almost 100% would have 

631
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,440
done the same thing in their 
scenario too, right? 

632
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Like perform a little bit of 
crime. 

633
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,920
Same. 
Save, save the protocol. 

634
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Yeah, why not? 
Like I said on this show, I 

635
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,880
thought there was a there was a 
10% or more probability there 

636
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,120
that they could lose 50% or more
of their of their treasury and I

637
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,200
think that what happened. 
They ended up in profit of 

638
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,480
$700,000. 
Right. 

639
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,000
So it was at Max. 
It was Max crime. 

640
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080
Like they decided the price 
sometimes. 

641
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,880
You just got to shut off the 
fucking exchange. 

642
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240
I mean, you know, it's happened 
before sometimes. 

643
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040
You got to do what you got to do
for the sake of the people you 

644
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,920
know. 
This is crypto man like TIC not.

645
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Impact. 
So that's what happened. 

646
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,640
So this will happen exactly 
right. 

647
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,040
Like shout out to Abby here. 
So validators rapidly decide to 

648
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200
delist Jelly perps. 
So they delisted it adjusted the

649
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Oracle price significantly down 
to a point OO nine $5 per Jelly 

650
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,719
closing all open positions 
publicly communicated, quick 

651
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,159
actions transparently. 
True story. 

652
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,159
They they were very quick to to 
communicate normal users 

653
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,880
excluding flagged wallets 
automatically compensated no 

654
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,600
action needed. 
So the financial outcomes that 

655
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,520
hyper liquid turned potential 
multi $1,000,000 loss into a 

656
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,440
$703,000 realized profit after 
adjustment HLP depositors fully 

657
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,800
protected and even profit is 
$687,000 daily profit despite 

658
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,560
initial care. 
Now the market perception is 

659
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,960
true. 
That's another conversation 

660
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,360
right like the old decentralized
centralized conversation. 

661
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,560
Then Zack XBT came up at at them
saying, well, you didn't do it 

662
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,040
when it was North Korea, but 
you're doing it when this is at 

663
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,199
stake. 
So I think then it's just a 

664
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,320
matter of the court of public 
opinion, right? 

665
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,440
This what's happening right now,
I guess. 

666
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
What are your thoughts, Tyler? 
Like, because for me, it's like 

667
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,560
what happens to the people? 
And that was a question that was

668
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,840
in the comments at all. 
A lot that cashed out scared of 

669
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640
what was potentially about to 
happen. 

670
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Yes, you make the people were in
the trade hole, but there's no 

671
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600
way to make people whole if they
cashed out. 

672
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:14,800
Zero way. 
Which was me. 

673
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,840
So I I end up selling my high 
position basically at the bottom

674
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,640
and I withdrew my funds. 
It was it was an amount that I 

675
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,160
wasn't comfortable losing. 
I see. 

676
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,440
I made the risk decision and now
I've been sleeping on trying to 

677
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,440
decide if I want to buy the 
position back or. 

678
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,720
Not should. 
Maybe wait for this to play out 

679
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,440
of it. 
Yeah, there's other, there's 

680
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,880
other factors playing on macro 
right now as well, but I still 

681
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,480
haven't seen the response of, 
OK, what are they going to do 

682
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,440
moving forward? 
Like take these tokens? 

683
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Like how what are your risk 
procedures to take these tokens 

684
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,600
off your platform that have 
these tiny liquidity pools that 

685
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,520
have these tiny market caps 
relative to crypto majors? 

686
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,960
Like how are you going to 
prevent this from happening 

687
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,960
again? 
Because as I understand it, it 

688
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,000
can happen again right now with 
with other tokens that. 

689
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,320
Are well, they have a ton of 
like they sound like chill guy, 

690
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,080
for example, on there right or 
like. 

691
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,440
There's five other coins that 
have similar. 

692
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Like chill guy USD, chill guys 
are trading at what like 3-30 

693
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,520
mil or something? 
3 mil. 

694
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,720
I don't know where it's at. 
Yeah, exactly. 

695
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,640
Goat is similar and they're 
still there. 

696
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,640
So I'm I'm I'm definitely not 
going to be buying back until 

697
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:29,000
they've at least addressed that.
With that said, my gut read is 

698
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,680
that most market participants 
here have memories of goldfish 

699
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,000
and they're going to move past 
this and as long as hyper liquid

700
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,640
volumes continue to grind up, 
they continue to eat into market

701
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,280
share. 
I think the the bulls, the hyper

702
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,360
liquid bulls will continue to be
loud and that may be enough to 

703
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,400
continue that. 
I saw some like beef within that

704
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,360
as well, right? 
Like I saw like Stow Stow like 

705
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Savage. 
He's a pretty big hyper liquid 

706
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,280
guy. 
And I get kicked out of some 

707
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000
chat and there was a whole thing
and Kobe commented like there is

708
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,720
also some people that are not 
really happy part of the hyper 

709
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,640
liquid like bulls. 
Like it was the first time I saw

710
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,280
like hyper liquid bulls 
themselves and being very happy 

711
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,920
about this honestly. 
Hyper liquid TVL and TPL 

712
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
obviously is important for like.
That was ironic by the way, the 

713
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,040
big ass founder trying to play 
higher. 

714
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,920
Anyways, go ahead. 
So that was funny. 

715
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,320
You can tell it's scared. 
Was it 690 million on February 

716
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,520
10th and it's now at 270. 
So that TVL has gone down a lot,

717
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,400
which is like the money that's 
gone into it. 

718
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,520
I actually like I like hype 
liquid. 

719
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,480
I had money on there yesterday, 
you know, and I didn't really 

720
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,280
care about the eve stuff. 
But like I all this is for me 

721
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,640
and this is not really their 
fault. 

722
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,120
They are going to like people 
are going to continue to try and

723
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,280
attack them. 
Well, and rightfully so because 

724
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,560
they're scared of them, right? 
I'm not saying it's right to do 

725
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,840
it and knowing that it's not 
criminal, but like you can tell 

726
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Binance and Co are kind of like 
worried about that 2. $175 

727
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,680
million or $250 million of 
Treasury, right? 

728
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,840
Yes. 
And remember their whole 

729
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,560
insurance fund, the whole point 
of only hype, right? 

730
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,280
They, they have an insurance 
fund which they make money from.

731
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,320
What have they been doing with 
that? 

732
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,120
They've been buying hype. 
So it's not like they have like 

733
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,920
if something goes wrong, we've 
got USD. 

734
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,720
If something goes wrong. 
Liquid. 

735
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,160
They're going to have to dump 
hype, right? 

736
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Right. 
So I don't know, but I'm sitting

737
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,200
there going like 275,000,000. 
You need to switch it down by 

738
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,760
Jelly Jelly like that's not 
that. 

739
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,520
Long bro, just. 
Go and do something and they you

740
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,200
know you can do 200 million plus
trades on there. 

741
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,040
A lot of whales can do 
unbelievable size of trades on 

742
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,160
there. 
So it's more like if you were, I

743
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,200
don't have to describe it. 
If any of you trade futures, 

744
00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:00,400
you're always aware of your 
liquidation price and think 

745
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,880
about the size that's going 
through hyper liquid and the 

746
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,640
size of, of collateral that you 
can deal with that. 

747
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,120
And I would say that it's, it's 
started to get a little bit 

748
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,400
like, I like hyper liquid. 
I have money on the estate. 

749
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,640
But the fact that it can get 
taken down by, by Jelly Jelly or

750
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,440
could have been points to the 
idea that like one thing could, 

751
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,720
could wipe out like 50% of 
their, of their, of their 

752
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,360
treasury here. 
And the only way to save that 

753
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,360
would be then to dump hype, 
which they've been buying. 

754
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:41,880
And that's been the pitch. 
OK, OK, we'll see. 

755
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,080
I mean yesterday CZ was like 
retweeting shit like do you guys

756
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,840
see like also like is it his 
girlfriend, his wife that runs 

757
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
it? 
It's like comments like OK, got 

758
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,280
it Like someone's like, hey 
Binance, you could do the 

759
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,920
funniest thing to Jelly Jelly, 
whatever. 

760
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,640
And then she's like OK, got it. 
But like CZ was because me too. 

761
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,840
At first I was like, wait, are 
OK X and Binance come in to help

762
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,880
out and bail him out and no, 
turns out they I think they were

763
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,320
trying to like, you know, to the
opposite, but. 

764
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000
And then a lot of other founders
came out again, so you can tell 

765
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,520
they're genuinely like kind of 
scared of that hyperliquid mind 

766
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,240
share in a way. 
I guess that's bullish for 

767
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,240
hyperliquid well. 
That's one interpretation. 

768
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,040
So this is this episode is not 
closed. 

769
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,880
I think that's the we, we need 
to see their response and then 

770
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,280
let this have some time to 
settle a little bit. 

771
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,040
I know we're going to go to our,
I quickly want to talk about 

772
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,640
this Walrus news. 
We've been talking about Walrus 

773
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,880
on this show for the last few 
months. 

774
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,400
Now you all know why their main 
in their Walrus token opened at 

775
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:49,640
$650 million market cap, $2.6 
billion FTV this morning. 

776
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,200
So again, that token, it's 
included in their decentralized 

777
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960
storage ecosystem, payments for 
storage staking, for security 

778
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,440
governance. 
They're also going to have a 

779
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,520
deflationary burning mechanism. 
They announced the launch 

780
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,200
partner the Clano stores are 
coming over to to help them 

781
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
launch a a notable NMT project 
from Salaam. 

782
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,360
Oh man, huge day for Sway. 
Huge day for Walrus, I think. 

783
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,480
This, but Clano is moving. 
My expectations were high. 

784
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,720
This this beat my expectations 
for where this was going to come

785
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,400
out. 
No, me too. 

786
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,360
I mean, I've said before, I mean
they've come on our show as show

787
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,920
partners and they're partners on
the decrypt side. 

788
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160
So not on less on the rock side,
but more decrypt because we're 

789
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,680
storing our data and like the 
article stuff, as I've explained

790
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,480
there and they're a good partner
and they have a lot of big. 

791
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:33,840
I mean, it's missing labs, 
right? 

792
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,400
So it's not like nobody's 
launching this thing. 

793
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,200
It's like actually like really 
big team and for respected in 

794
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,920
the industry, I say Sui looks 
good. 

795
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,280
I mean, Sui also caught a good 
bit on the back of that, right? 

796
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,800
So it's good to see whether the 
market's bouncing nicely, guys. 

797
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,800
I like it. 187 No 139 turn 
around Thursday, baby. 

798
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,960
By the way, the codes for Robit 
today, GameStop, GameStop is the

799
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,720
code. 
So if you go to raffle bot dot 

800
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:01,920
XYZ, raffle bot dot XYZ that 
that all the details are on 

801
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,360
screen. 
The code is GameStop you can 

802
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,520
have today I put 10% chance to 
win a Penguin, still put the 

803
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,800
punk too. 
So we're being generous. 

804
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480
So come and try and win. 
And then there was one more last

805
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,880
thing. 
Do we want to push the Poly 

806
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,880
market converter tomorrow, 
Tyler, just because it's kind of

807
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,160
a big topic? 
Yeah, we need more time. 

808
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000
We need more time for that. 
We need more time for Ghibli 

809
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,600
and. 
Yeah, let's do that. 

810
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,960
ChatGPT 04. 
That I actually have a call with

811
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:29,360
Uma tomorrow after the show. 
Let's talk about the Poly market

812
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,320
news tomorrow because actually 
big it's, it's relevant. 

813
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,960
I'm sure a lot of people want to
know also how we would react to 

814
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,360
that. 
So it's important. 

815
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,880
And then also the jibly stuff is
fun. 

816
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,800
I have to say though, I really 
like it. 

817
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,840
I want to go deeper into that. 
I think it's fun. 

818
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,080
I was called out yesterday by 
the time I was called poor. 

819
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,360
We're not paying for open AI 
Chad GP. 

820
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,320
You guys pay $25.00 a month for 
it? 

821
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,440
Yes, we do. 
It's it's a it's a Starbucks 

822
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,760
bill. 
And I spend more than that on 

823
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,560
coffee every. 
Week it's not a Starbucks bill. 

824
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,400
Have you seen bongos meal for 40
bucks? 

825
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,360
I think O four image generation 
is the biggest zero to 1 moment 

826
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,480
since Chad since ChatGPT 
launched. 

827
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Mando's like a ChatGPT 
maximalist like that 

828
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,280
motherfucker like uses it like 
not. 

829
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,920
Of course it's amazing. 
Yeah, so there's Vanessa. 

830
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Vanessa uses it for like 
recipes, calorie counting, all 

831
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,600
sorts of shit, health, Wellness.
Like she's like always talking 

832
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,720
to ChatGPT like you're all day 
like asking questions to the 

833
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:29,560
thing. 
She's fully replaced Google. 

834
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,560
I need to get to that. 
I just started like last two 

835
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,840
weeks ago. 
I wanted to do like a average, 

836
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,640
my average Sonic buys because I 
bought so many different levels.

837
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,760
So I threw it on to ChatGPT and 
I got my average. 

838
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,000
I was like forget. 
So that was good. 

839
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,800
I was like, if I bought X amount
at that price, X amount of this 

840
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,080
price and why am I on this 
price? 

841
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,560
How much is my average? 
And I was like, fuck yeah, but 

842
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,240
but yeah, OK. 
Well, I like the Ghibbly stuff. 

843
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,400
Ghibbly Ghibbly Tyler messed me 
up. 

844
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,440
So anyways, yeah, I I post on my
little Instagram like a picture 

845
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,280
of me and my family from from 
Persian New year in in ghibbly 

846
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,480
style. 
I thought it was super cute. 

847
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,160
I love the colors. 
It's a good vibe. 

848
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,280
I also got my office ghibbly 
fied. 

849
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,360
I'll show you guys. 
I'll post it after. 

850
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Anyways, shall we get to our 
today's show partner, Jose 

851
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Pereira? 
Jose, Are you ready as your 

852
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,320
cameras up there he is. 
There he is. 

853
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,640
There he is. 
Jose. 

854
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,600
Jose, what up? 
What up? 

855
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,720
Good morning. 
How you doing today? 

856
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Thank you much. 
Good morning to all. 

857
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,840
How are you? 
We're good. 

858
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,680
We're here. 
Great. 

859
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Thank you. 
Thank you for being here. 

860
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,360
Thank you for being a show 
partner. 

861
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Jose, where are you? 
Where are you calling in from? 

862
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Dubai. 
Dubai, we'll be there. 

863
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,560
Hi, baby. 
Hi, baby. 

864
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,920
We'll be there. 
We'll be there in exactly, 

865
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,120
actually exactly a month from 
now, I land in Dubai for a token

866
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,000
2049. 
It's going to be fun. 

867
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,080
It's amazing. 
Yeah. 

868
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,960
We're throwing a banger of an 
event. 

869
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,880
I hope you're going to come. 
We'll send you an invite for the

870
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,760
show. 
She got to be there. 

871
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,680
It's going to be fun, I think. 
I think always going to be there

872
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,960
too, man, though for the wrecked
side. 

873
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,800
So that'll that'll be good. 
Anyways, Jose, we're not here to

874
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,360
talk about Dubai in order to 
talk about us. 

875
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680
We're here to talk about you and
own and what you guys are doing 

876
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,560
RW as are hot, hot, hot, hot. 
It's the number one thing Tri Fi

877
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,080
is interested in for the last 
report, the number one thing Tri

878
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Fi is interested in real world 
assets, which is really cool. 

879
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,720
So why don't you give us the 
introduction of yourself and 

880
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:16,960
what you guys do over at OWN? 
Yeah, no, Thank you very much. 

881
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,800
My name is Jose Peda, Director 
at at OWN. 

882
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,200
And what we're doing is 
basically solving an access 

883
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,840
problem that a lot of markets 
have to high quality assets. 

884
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,440
We've started with an exchange 
called Facets. 

885
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,760
We're regulated across 9 
markets. 

886
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,920
We have 220,000 users that are 
already buying tokenized assets,

887
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,080
NVIDIA stocks, Apple, S&P 500 
bonds. 

888
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,240
And the reason is because in the
markets where we have started 

889
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:44,800
growing our user base, they 
solve a fundamental problem 

890
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,360
because in markets like 
Pakistan, Indonesia, for 

891
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,000
example, you cannot just open an
account in Robin Hood. 

892
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,640
So the benefit that we have here
is, is, like I said, it's more 

893
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960
impactful than a convenience 
benefit that you have in more 

894
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,200
developed markets. 
I think that in developed 

895
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,080
markets, there's a different 
thesis for other days. 

896
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,440
The B2B proposition is 
completely different, but what 

897
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,080
we're doing is that we are 
leveraging the distribution 

898
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,920
power that we've built over the 
years of the portfolio of 

899
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,760
licenses to combine it with an 
infrastructure that's open for 

900
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,880
developers to to build 
permissioniency and the vision 

901
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,800
is to become the go to chain for
real world assets. 

902
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Wow, OK, this is really cool. 
And so you guys are in L2, 

903
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,720
right? 
And, and there's obviously a lot

904
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:30,200
of L twos right now, Jose, we 
talk about that a lot on the 

905
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,720
show actually. 
And so why don't you tell us 

906
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:34,400
like, you know, obviously 
there's many L twos launching 

907
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,160
every month, a lot, a lot of L 
twos. 

908
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,640
What's the reason for the RWA 
focus behind yours? 

909
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,520
It's the concentration of the 
RWA ecosystem. 

910
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,720
So like I said, we have an 
starting user base of people 

911
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,320
that are already interested in 
buying and that is our funnel to

912
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,080
D5. 
So they started by the 1st 

913
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,640
stocks, we sent them to D5 where
they can have more advanced 

914
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,360
yields, more advanced products. 
So you have all of the benefits 

915
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,640
of composability. 
Our Chinese built in partnership

916
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,560
with with Arbitrary and Gelato. 
And what we want to do is 

917
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,880
basically unify the whole user 
journey from your local currency

918
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,320
called your Indonesian rupiah 
all the way to your most 

919
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,000
advanced, I'd say the D5 
product, having everything into 

920
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,960
into one seamless user journey. 
OK, OK. 

921
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,720
Interesting. 
This is good. 

922
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,840
When did you guys launch this? 
We haven't launched yet. 

923
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,680
So we're going to have our test 
set up in three weeks and then 

924
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,800
that's when we're going to have 
an onboarding for developers to 

925
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,240
to come and start integrating. 
But we plan to launch our our 

926
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:43,680
main net after summer. 
OK. 

927
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,680
And you guys work with Arbitrum?
Nice. 

928
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,200
Yes. 
So you're like an orbit chain? 

929
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:51,360
Yes, exactly. 
Arbitrum, Arbitrum Orbit. 

930
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,800
So right now we're settling 
trades on, on Arbitrum. 

931
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,960
All of the, the trading volume 
that we're already having in 

932
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,240
facets is going to migrate. 
All of those assets are going to

933
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,200
migrate to to our own chain. 
So that's one of the reasons why

934
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,840
we're launching our our own 
because we have that starting 

935
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,240
volume, starting user base that 
we can leverage from day one. 

936
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Love I I totally get it. 
Chat to Arbitrum good people out

937
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,200
there. 
So obviously RW as I was saying 

938
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,240
earlier, because I just read a 
report from paradigm that the 

939
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,720
like the biggest sector that 
ratifies most the number one. 

940
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,200
So why do you feel that OWN is 
in the best position to make RW 

941
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,000
as on Chain of Reality? 
Why you guys? 

942
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,120
Yeah. 
So that's where you see that we 

943
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:36,200
see incomplete solutions across 
the the spectrum and you that 

944
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,600
means that you have industry 
trade-offs. 

945
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:40,680
You have some that specialize in
one thing could be the 

946
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,480
regulatory, others are going to 
be open, but you cannot have all

947
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,400
of these in one. 
What we're doing with the 

948
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,280
integration of own and fasted is
trying to provide the complete 

949
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,680
solution, which we think is 
actually the the, the real 

950
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,080
solution. 
So if you look on the left, you 

951
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,200
have ones where you need to sort
out all of your licenses as a as

952
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:04,920
a builder, whereas and, and it's
it's difficult to have the 

953
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,600
openness and the regulatory. 
So you have other players like 

954
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,320
for example security Plume and 
have high specialized tech, but 

955
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,520
their licenses are more focused 
on certain jurisdictions. 

956
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,120
What we want to do is, is have 
the broadest access tech, the 

957
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,480
distribution with facet, yeah, 
and the accumulation of of 

958
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,320
builders. 
OK, I see. 

959
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,920
So how can people like anyone 
here listening to you today get 

960
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,040
involved with own like because 
obviously you said you haven't 

961
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,200
launched yet. 
So when something has launched, 

962
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,640
you see the opportunity for 
players to come in and do 

963
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,600
something, you know? 
Yeah, No, we're looking for a 

964
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,120
new one that is aligned with a 
vision. 

965
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,320
If it's a builder that wants a 
regulated path to distribution, 

966
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,640
we can facilitate that. 
Our infrastructure is open to 

967
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,960
all the builders and on a case 
by case basis, we can leverage 

968
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,000
our portfolio of licenses 
through integration with Facet. 

969
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,200
So I think our main, our main 
priority right now is, is 

970
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,400
connecting with all the deaths 
and builders in the community 

971
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,000
building something in our degree
and any, any community members 

972
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,040
that would want to be part of 
our our token launch eventually 

973
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200
that would also be the people 
that we would love to connect 

974
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,360
with. 
OK, so you're here to hear 

975
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,840
first. 
There's also points on there. 

976
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,440
We love points. 
We love points over here. 

977
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,440
So there's definitely a place to
farm and stuff. 

978
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,440
Last question for you, I guess. 
So just like what, what excites 

979
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,560
you the most about being in all 
this? 

980
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,720
Like what? 
What do you, what do you see the

981
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,960
future for you guys? 
Well, Sir, can you repeat that 

982
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,400
please? 
What excites you the most about 

983
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,000
what you guys are doing? 
Like what excites you the most 

984
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,160
about what you got coming up? 
Well, we're seeing our numbers 

985
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,920
grow on a, on a monthly base, 
monthly base. 

986
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,480
So we're just excited about 
seeing real adoption, real 

987
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,400
assets. 
I think like you were talking 

988
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,280
before, there's a change of 
sentiments in the markets 

989
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,600
because there was a burnout from
all the speculation like the 

990
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,120
normal market bubbles that we 
see in crypto, the assets that 

991
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,720
were not back, the things that 
happened with main coins that I 

992
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:04,080
think that people are waking up 
to investing in something that 

993
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,280
is backed by assets that are 
actually productive. 

994
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:11,400
So what excites me the most is 
that we are, we've been building

995
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,880
this for, for the last five 
years as facets. 

996
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
So to have the narrative 
actually catching up on the 

997
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,200
value proposition that we bring 
by by connecting these assets to

998
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,040
blockchain is is what excites me
the most. 

999
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,520
OK, I love that. 
Yeah, but we love RW as Tyler's 

1000
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,560
always reporting on how much 
money's on there and everything.

1001
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,640
So definitely a lot of stuff to 
to to get a lot of alpha. 

1002
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,200
So check them out. 
It's I own that XYZ nice domain 

1003
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,560
as well. 
I own that XYZ. 

1004
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:43,240
You can follow them on own under
score XYZ, own under score XYZ 

1005
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:44,960
and I own XYZ and get involved, 
y'all? 

1006
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,840
I mean this another opportunity 
to farm something, something 

1007
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,480
that's about to launch. 
Looks like there's a lot of 

1008
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,760
launches coming up this year, so
this is another good one. 

1009
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,600
I see you can even go win a gold
chain. 

1010
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,840
Love that. 
So there's a lot of different 

1011
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,400
opportunities here to get 
involved. 

1012
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,160
Jose, thank you so much for 
partnering with us today and 

1013
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,520
thank you for coming here and 
best of luck. 

1014
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,720
Thank you so much all. 
Right brother, have a good one. 

1015
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,560
All right all right, all right 
so are we ready to win? 

1016
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Are we ready? 
Wow, this market is back. 

1017
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,240
I I love this. 
I like this market, boys like 

1018
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,200
I've been, I would say I'm back 
in like pretty bigly and so I 

1019
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,400
look a little more and like 
every time like we've been 

1020
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,320
defending certain levels pretty 
well. 

1021
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,960
Boys like even Bitcoin stole 
everything. 

1022
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,000
I like that. 
Give me that give. 

1023
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,080
Me that 89 K by Friday 0. 
Shit, the Myriad line I forgot, 

1024
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,040
but let's check out Myriad for a
second before we get to these 

1025
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,920
things. 
So shout out to the poker 

1026
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,120
tournament that happened 
yesterday. 

1027
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:47,080
So Mando by the way, by the way,
keyboard monkey did win the 

1028
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,080
market just to tell you. 
But hold on, hold on before you 

1029
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,720
laugh on some won the most. 
So he came first, KBM second and

1030
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,840
your boy 3rd. 
So I know you were laughing and 

1031
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,120
saying oh did you even play 
poker? 

1032
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,040
Mother fucker? 
I came third and I make money. 

1033
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,880
Nice little $3000 paid it for 
your boy. 

1034
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,000
So that was not bad. 
It was like 2530 K at hand at 

1035
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,640
most. 
So KBM beat me for hand one. 

1036
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,200
This is where you won first 
hand. 

1037
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,080
We get in first hand of the 
game. 

1038
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,000
I'm nearly all in half my stack.
I get a king high flush and he 

1039
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,920
still manages to beat that with 
a king over 7's full house. 

1040
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,200
Pretty wild, right? 
That was like, that was the 

1041
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,400
hand. 
I thought that was crazy. 

1042
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,840
Yeah. 
Comeback of the year. 

1043
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,560
I know, right? 
I had 100K tokens left. 

1044
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,960
I left with 700,000. 
That was pretty big. 

1045
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,960
I think Jintao lost at 1.2 
million Pengu, but we're going 

1046
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,720
to run these back a lot. 
You guys should play nice. 

1047
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,240
You guys play poker? 
A little bit of poker, not, not 

1048
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,240
for a while, whatever. 
It's very popular in my in my 

1049
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:45,960
track five days. 
Yeah, of course. 

1050
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,320
Ty, you play a little poker. 
I'm a I'm a fish. 

1051
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,560
I get run over by the guys. 
I'm a fish too, though, and 

1052
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,800
there's a lot of sharks at the 
table. 

1053
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,960
I just play, you know, I just 
put your balls on a table, you 

1054
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,400
know? 
I mean, the code is GameStop. 

1055
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,080
So let me go through these 
myriad markets for a second. 

1056
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,200
So give people another minute to
put the code raffle ball dot 

1057
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,680
XYZ. 
The code is GameStop. 

1058
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600
So, boys, this mark is very 
interesting. 

1059
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,360
It's got $55,000 worth of 
volume, I'm not going to lie. 

1060
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:20,880
The yes at 13 percent. 8 to one,
Yeah, I mean 8 to one, we hit 

1061
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,160
89. 
Mando I don't know about that 

1062
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,040
but I only 13% of people have 
Bitcoin price above 89,000. 

1063
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Priced that is missed. 
Oh by tomorrow. 

1064
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,280
Where is it now? 
87 two bro. 

1065
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,240
Yeah, that's mispriced 2%, 2% 
moving Bitcoin. 

1066
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:40,960
Is it? 
Is it, is it? 

1067
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,320
Yeah. 
Is that 13%? 

1068
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Yes. 
For sure. 

1069
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,240
Also like you have to remember 
there are a lot of options. 

1070
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,080
This is a really good day to do 
this by the way, because this is

1071
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,680
1/4 end, 1/4 end means that like
a lot of options expire. 

1072
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,880
So you get like, and it's a 
Friday, right? 

1073
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,000
So you're going to get like 
billion. 

1074
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,680
I don't know what the figure 
will be, but I reckon you're, 

1075
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,640
you're talking, you know, and 
you always like, is this a big 

1076
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,200
deal? 
It'll be a big deal tomorrow. 

1077
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,960
There'll be, there'll be 
billions of options that expire.

1078
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,720
I think tomorrow some may have 
expired on the 20th but the 

1079
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:15,200
majority will will expire 
tomorrow. 

1080
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,960
Damn you're. 
Going to double down. 

1081
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,960
So that's not, that's not, yeah,
I don't think that probably 

1082
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,840
takes into account that level of
volatility because I imagine a 

1083
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,600
lot of them are probably set 
around 90K. 

1084
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:32,040
Yeah, I don't know man all. 
Right. 

1085
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,240
I I, if I was putting money on 
this market, so I I can't really

1086
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:40,800
at the moment like actually do 
it if I were to do this. 

1087
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,120
I mean, you guys know me. 
I also like to gamble a little 

1088
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:49,680
bit but but 89 K I know that. 
Now for OK. 

1089
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,280
What? 
But you like to gamble a little.

1090
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,760
Bit yeah, you like that? 
I'm like top five in the year 

1091
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,080
Leaderboard. 
I can't post. 

1092
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,680
There you go. 
Try boosting. 

1093
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,120
No, fucking I'm like boosting my
post. 

1094
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,320
I don't need to boost my post. 
Everybody go retweet my shit. 

1095
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,640
But we're nearing $1,000,000 of 
volume at Marriott, so we could,

1096
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520
you know, use everybody's help. 
That's why, yeah, I do love to 

1097
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,960
gamble, man, though. 
I'm cooking though. 

1098
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,080
Like literally like I'm fucking 
you. 

1099
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,480
Actually have a pretty, yeah, 
you have a pretty diligent 

1100
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,280
strategy. 
You've you've gone more 

1101
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,080
defensive in in your trading 
strategy. 

1102
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,120
And then when you get that 
flutter, you just kind of go on 

1103
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,240
and do a little flutter. 
I think that's probably good for

1104
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,400
you. 
I think that's probably good for

1105
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,880
a long a lot of people. 
It's helped my edge a lot. 

1106
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,320
Like I do play a lot of 
blackjack lately. 

1107
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,680
I'm not even going to lie. 
Like I played a lot of this 

1108
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,240
morning, I played last night, I 
played. 

1109
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,880
I play a little bit every day, 
but if I lose, I lose. 

1110
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,720
I have a daily budget and if I 
win, I win. 

1111
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,400
But I cash it all the time and 
it's taking me away from the 

1112
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,120
trenches, which is amazing. 
And I just let my spot right? 

1113
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,680
So I'm all spot in. 
I'm all I'm spot on it, right? 

1114
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,320
You like actually spend. 
You put it straight to the 

1115
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,720
spending. 
So since in Canada gambling is 

1116
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:01,400
non taxable exactly right, every
dollar is a whole dollar. 

1117
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,200
So I put it directly my crypto 
credit card. 

1118
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,760
So I can't even I don't even 
cash it out so it goes directly 

1119
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,280
my crypto credit card or I can 
give money to my mom type shit. 

1120
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,880
You know what I mean? 
Like stuff like that and. 

1121
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,080
You tell the Canadian tax 
authorities, then you leave, you

1122
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,680
know. 
Yeah, that's it. 

1123
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,560
And it's real. 
I mean, you know, I get I get 

1124
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,440
my, you know, Yeet and Robin or 
whoever can get me a little 

1125
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,520
statement of my winnings. 
You, you, you prove it. 

1126
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,480
It's it's real gains at casino. 
So you know, so it's. 

1127
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,160
Really. 
Gambling in Portugal is also not

1128
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,000
taxable. 
Incredible. 

1129
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,880
That's amazing. 
I, you know, listen. 

1130
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,640
Unless you are a professional 
gambler. 

1131
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,200
Same here, unless you're 
professional. 

1132
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,960
I'm not a professional, I'm a 
professional media company 

1133
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,760
founder and I gamble and I 
gamble on the side. 

1134
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:51,720
You know what I say? 
Anyways, checking up also the 

1135
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,320
Tyler, we have the fear and 
grade index over under 45 March 

1136
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,000
29th. 
Where is it at right now? 

1137
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,200
It's at 40. 
Oh, it's going to be over today.

1138
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,320
Look at this chart, boys. 
Look at this chart on the fear 

1139
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,640
and grade. 
What do you got, Tyler? 

1140
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,320
I don't know. 
I feel like people are afraid 

1141
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,760
right now. 
I think I'm on the, I think I 

1142
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:18,000
would be on well at 65%. 
The the lines are kind of 

1143
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,280
correlated to a degree. 
Oh, so we have more time on this

1144
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,680
one? 
Yeah, one more day. 

1145
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,800
It's 89 K We'll probably go back
to 45, but. 

1146
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,680
Then. 
We can sweat. 

1147
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,920
Yeah, it really reeks of bits on
our timeline. 

1148
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,800
We're in this weird phase where 
people are not scared to go risk

1149
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,440
on risk. 
Go fucking risk on and wait. 

1150
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,360
Well, this is down if you're 
spot. 

1151
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:44,000
Every major bank just revised 
down their the S&P 500 price 

1152
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,480
targets for the year. 
That kind of spooked some folks.

