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Yo-yo, yo-yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning. 

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TMG Monday. 
Oh baby. 

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I need to kill myself this 
weekend. 

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Month, March 3rd, new month 
2025. 

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Look at that, another beautiful 
day to have a beautiful day. 

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It is a it is a great month. 
It's the month of the Persian 

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New Year. 
It's the month of the renewal, 

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the month of the spring equinox 
on March 21st. 

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It's 5:00 AM Eastern Standard 
Time. 

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I think it'll be 6 by then 
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think, but it is a big month 
for, for, for my people. 

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It's an important month. 
It's a good month. 

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We're feeling positive about it.
It's my, it's my favorite months

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after my birthday. 
Actually, I think it's my 

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favorite celebration. 
Celebration over my birthday. 

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That's how big it is. 
Yeah. 

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So it's a, it's a nice. 
Usually it's a very positive 

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month. 
So we like that, right? 

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It starts getting a little 
warmer. 

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Montreal didn't get the memo 
with -27 yesterday, but it's 

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usually a little a sign of 
better man. 

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I really, I really mess my I, I 
can't move my neck. 

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I have to like, move my chair to
look at my different screens, 

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you know? 
What happened just from your 

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workout? 
Yeah, Saturday I decided to put 

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a, I've been like elongating my 
workouts. 

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So instead of an hour, I do like
75 minutes now and on and on. 

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So I did 50 minutes just on my 
back and then do like a 20 

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minute buy then do like I was 
like I I guess 50 minutes was 

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like a little too much for my 
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Like I think my body was just 
not down for 50 minutes of back 

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lifting. 
So now I can't move my neck. 

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Yeah, we didn't go out this 
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We're still working on the OR on
the health chart. 

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So we're good. 
Tyler, how's your weekend? 

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How you doing today? 
It was good. 

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I mean, what a wild turn of 
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We're used to puking all weekend
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green weekend we've had in what 
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What's that mean with Kim Jong 
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Like in the midst of we're still
over? 

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I thought that when he's 
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know, I mean, it's over again, 
but it's OK. 

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But it was a fun I. 
It was a fun 24 hours. 

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Now we're coming back to Earth a
little bit here. 

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It was a fun. 
Sunday. 

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It was a fun Sunday. 
The boys all caught the move 

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right. 
Like it looks like it looks like

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you me Mando. 
I know Ovie did as well. 

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I know a few of us and we we cut
that small move pretty well. 

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So it's you love to see that was
that was a great weekend 

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anyways. 
Also I'm cooking on Marriott 

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dude, like how much Bitcoin will
like. 

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I bet that Michael Saylor's 
going to stop buying Bitcoin 

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this week. 
And I just made 200,000 points 

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off that, so that's not bad. 
Nice. 

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And the Lakers won. 
Oh, and I won Adrian Brody best 

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actor and leading role for 
Oscars. 

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Dude, I am on fire on Marietta. 
I wish my points counted towards

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leaderboard. 
I'd be cooking, you 

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motherfuckers. 
We we you nailed the the cricket

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bet I I wish I'd I'd put more 
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that, that that thrower or 
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cricket like the guy who throws 
the ball, he's throwing the ball

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with an $800,000 Richard Milly. 
Like this takes immense amount 

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of self-confidence and balls. 
Also, if he has a Richard Milly 

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on, he probably has a probably 
like the top athlete. 

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I feel like, you know what I 
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So it's like, it's like a mental
game, you know what I mean? 

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So you got to study that. 
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If a tennis player is rocking a 
Richard Milly playing, if a for,

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if a, if a cricket player is 
rock, we're also rocking Richard

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Milly playing. 
Usually you want to slam it. 

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Plus, Indians are notoriously 
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Study OSF, who's actually 
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13 in the peewees. 
So yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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So it's a, it's pretty big deal.
Anyways, today on the show 

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markets, we lost, we lost, we 
lost, we lost the man. 

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We're we're one man down. 
I don't know, Mando must have 

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had an emergency. 
But we're man, we're man down, 

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man down. 
But we'll talk markets. 

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Don't worry, we can do our 
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We'll talk markets, we'll talk. 
What else are we talking about, 

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Tyler? 
We have top one, Tyler. 

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I mean, we got to talk about 
this weekend. 

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I mean, this whole what? 
It's a big week because there's 

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Crypto Summit on Friday. 
Anything can happen. 

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We have an announcement of 1:30 
PM today with a big Congress 

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thing appearance tomorrow night 
per Trump. 

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So there's going to be a big, 
big week. 

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All right, Tyler, I'm just going
to go straight to your top. 

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Let's take a top down for this 
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I think there's a lot of 
interesting stuff to talk. 

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About folks, top story yesterday
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from Donald Trump stating that 
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will include XRP, Seoul and ADA.
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course, in addition to Bitcoin 
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those tokens just absolutely 
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impacting the broader market as 
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This came just a few days after 
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ever crypto summit taking place 
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Sacks with founders, CEOs, 
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So that's going to be a big one.
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talked about this on Friday's 
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quite understand the depth of 
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Bitcoin ETFs to its model 
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adding a one to 2% allocation, 
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hundreds of billions of dollars 
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Still arguably the biggest 
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weekend. 
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Got to talk about. 
A bit more Bitcoin ETFs did see 

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positive inflows on Friday 
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in a few different weeks. 
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They passed their strategic 
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Now on to the House for final 
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Metaplan keeps buying even 
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safe from the dip last week. 
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Thank God. 
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million and then there's a a 
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repealing this one of the recent
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flash that's going to be another
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and protocol news. 
Cauchy designated as a covered 

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exchange by the CFTC. 
Saw that? 

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For prediction markets, Kronos 
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reissue 70 billion CRO tokens 
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I'm not sure I've seen that any 
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Infinex announced self sovereign
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Ruins pumped yesterday. 
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Odin dot font, which is I think 
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But these tokens have actual 
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to $40 million in daily volume 
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So maybe, maybe some light at 
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We'll talk about that. 
The rest of the board AI up a 

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touch. 
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or more in the wake of the 
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If Arc coin was a top winner, I 
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Meme coin leaders up about 3 to 
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Broadly. 
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Ronald Dino in a sign that we 
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meme aping Ronald Dino launched 
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yesterday got to 30 million so 
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tokens to run these days and 
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the dungeons as the next phase 
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today and then Luca wearing the 
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shared something coming perhaps 
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coming out of the the news from 
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So an announcement. 
Is that so? 

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But it was provocative. 
It is that so, huh. 

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It's that, so we should open a 
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Will there be an NFTETF? 
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filed by the end of April, Would
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In 2025. 
I said filed. 

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I said filed. 
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is close. 
I like that, though. 

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I like those odds. 
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Mark is going to have nice odds,
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Yeah, I'm. 
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filed. 
Yeah, why not? 

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All right, you heard that. 
Who's who's who's listening from

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the, from a team. 
I I just got off a call with the

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team. 
We're like planning our first 

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USD markets as we speak. 
So they're coming, they're 

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coming. 
I don't know if you caught that,

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but the The Sims is being cheeky
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what the fuck is this guy 
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And then I read the first letter
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I was like, oh, that makes 
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Before we move on, so I I shared
a a post yesterday before all 

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the the news came out just 
talking about the myriad Twitter

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integration. 
It's like, folks, if you haven't

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checked this out, it is cool. 
So like I saw one of the folks 

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that follow eyebrow. 
Getting better. 

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A thesis about the Bitcoin 
reserve market on the state 

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level and he had the market 
embedded and I. 

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Can just, it's nice, Yeah. 
If you have the extension, you 

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can bet like, like that's what 
Tyler was talking about on 

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screen. 
It's like if you this is a 

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tweet, this is not a market, but
you could actually click on this

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and use the market. 
So yeah, that was nice. 

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I saw that they're they're 
pretty. 

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It's really nice. 
It's well done and it gets 

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better. 
I, I saw your notes, like if 

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anyone has notes or like 
suggestions keep sending. 

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But yeah, we're gearing up for 
USDC markets ASAP. 

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So you guys are going to have a 
lot of fun anyways. 

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Tyler, let's go back. 
Let's take care. 

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Let's take it back a little bit.
I feel like we have, I feel like

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we have to talk about this 
weekend first, right? 

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But that was like the biggest 
news. 

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Markets bounced a lot. 
I'm going to pull up some charts

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here, but take it, take it, take
it for us. 

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Yeah, yesterday afternoon we got
the surprise announcement from 

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Donald Trump. 
I think it was shared on True 

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Social. 
First, he says AUS Crypto 

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Reserve will elevate this 
critical industry after years of

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corrupt attacks by the Biden 
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So he's reinforcing here his 
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assets. 
He's directing the working group

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to move forward on that reserve.
The reserve will include XRP, 

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Seoul and ADA as he makes as he 
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capital. 
Of the world. 

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So that was the first 
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People are just spinning, going 
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XRP, Seoul and ADA are starting 
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I think Bitcoin starts to move a
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Then there's chatter on the 
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Wait, does this mean E that's 
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Does this mean Bitcoin is not 
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And then an hour later, Trump 
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obviously Bitcoin and ETH, as 
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will be at the heart of the 
reserve. 

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So I don't know that we need the
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Like, I feel like this is the 
potential list. 

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I've got a lot of thoughts on 
this. 

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But that was the news. 
These are the five tokens. 

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Those five all just absolutely 
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I think Bitcoin printed the 
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Because it's a. $1000 candle. 
I I think that was whoa. 

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You mean weekly or daily? 
Fuck that was a $10,000 daily. 

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Yeah, I saw, I did not verify 
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it was the the biggest daily 
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Ever. 
I mean, it has to be largest 

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daily candles ever on big. 
It has, I mean, 10,000 dollars, 

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Yeah, I don't know, but it's got
to be right. 

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Yeah, it's got to be up there 
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have been done in the last three
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Right. 
I remember not long ago we said 

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it was the largest daily. 
It was like 8K. 

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So surely this has to be it. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Wow. 

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It's giving back half of that so
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But it's not a bad place to buy 
on the bounce. 

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We talked about it last night. 
I even told you, like high 80s 

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probably is not that bad. 
Wow. 

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What a candle, though, eh? 
It feels good. 

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Right, that was a candle. 
But then look at Solana. 

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Solana went fuck. 
What was the daily on Solana 

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yesterday? 
The daily on Solana. 

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My God. 
Wait hold on. 

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Oh my God that was a massive 
fucking candle bro. 

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It went from 1:40 to 180 
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Yeah, I mean that. 
Wow, internal you. 

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Guys lost that very quickly as 
well, but like, my God. 

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That's a 30, nearly 30% candle. 
Until yesterday. 

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Nuts. 
Like the people who bought 135 

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is like with with the hope of 
going to 160 or 180 thought that

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might play out over like weeks 
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Afternoon day. 
I mean, we all even thought like

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I personally like that's why I 
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astrology on the on the board 
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But it's like I was 163. 
I thought was top pico top 

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again. 
So I sold a bunch like 160 but 

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went higher. 
So well done. 

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I mean, this is really good to 
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It's relief, right? 
Like you must rather have even 

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Solana hover over the one 60s 
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which kind of sucked. 
It was nice relief. 

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It's like hard like, do we know 
if the bottom is in or not? 

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We can get into the broader 
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little bit later. 
I don't know that a whole lot 

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has changed like since what we 
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last week, right? 
And like this, this news event 

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itself, like I've been, I was 
trying to wrap my head around it

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yesterday. 
Like, is this even news? 

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Because it's an executive order,
right? 

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He named new tickers, which I 
think is the specific news. 

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But like, we knew about this 
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that this working group was to 
build this plan. 

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And even last week we were 
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subcommittee meeting and they, 
they weren't making very much 

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progress. 
They were moving very slowly. 

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So the the real meat in this 
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I guess the the bull and me like
the like the hopium here is that

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like this reinforces that this 
is something that is top of 

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mind. 
For. 

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And then, arguably and maybe, 
the White House summit on Friday

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is the actual news. 
I'm very curious what happens 

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then. 
So let's let's revisit. 

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Some of the tweets from from the
White House were close to it. 

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Eric Trump 12 hours ago. 
I love the genius of announcing 

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a strategic reserve on a Sunday 
when traditional markets were 

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closed and Wall Street sleeps 
for the first time. 

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Retail investors win traditional
finance better catch up or it 

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will become extinct. 
The world no longer runs on the 

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Monday to Friday, 9:00 to 5:00. 
What? 

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What a tweet from one of our top
three Kols, right? 

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Donald Trump is number one, 
right? 

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You have Cynthia Loomis in him. 
It's like our favorite Kol. 

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Oh, the Caesar too. 
So bizarre. 

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So we have a few big Kols now, 
Tyler, you're going to be 

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competing for yaps, dude. 
And then an hour ago he said, 

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you're welcome, my friend. 
Hopefully I made someone's life 

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just a little bit better. 
Now my advice is huddle hold, IE

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long term. 
What do you think of Eric Trump 

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here? 
I I love that. 

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Yeah. 
And so clearly they're they're 

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they're looking to build 
tokenization on Ethereum. 

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I don't know if they're 
specifically looking to get into

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like tokenized stock trading. 
Yeah, but I mean certainly 24 or

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7 trading availability is a is a
foundational aspect of it, which

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makes it makes it great. 
A lot of people are angry at the

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at the ADA ad here. 
I mean there's David Saks's 

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official account from the 
government and I'll show that 

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his personal account in the 
second. 

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But this has pissed off a lot of
people. 

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What what is your thoughts? 
I saw I mean Bryan Armstrong not

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pissed off but actually did piss
off a lot of people. 

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But Bryan Armstrong's thoughts 
were excited to learn more so 

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from an opinion on asset 
allocation. 

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But my current thinking is one 
just Bitcoin would probably be 

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the best option. 
Simplest and clear story of 

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success for the gold 2. 
If folks wanted more variety you

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could do a market cap weighted 
index of crypto assets to keep 

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it unbiased. 
So probably up to one's better. 

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What? 
What is? 

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What is your thoughts? 
I, I seem to agree with that. 

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I think for one, like the, the 
fight against Sax was that he is

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an investor in Bitwise and 
Bitwise's largest holdings are 

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the, those tokens that were all 
included. 

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He did come out and say, hey, I 
sold all my personal 

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investments, but I don't, I 
don't think that carries over 

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to, to Bitwise and people are 
just going down the, the crony 

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capitalism. 
This is just Trump trying to 

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enrich his friends. 
And, and that was the the big 

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narrative that I saw. 
And, and it's loud. 

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And I think there's, there's 
going to be a lot of pushback to

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this. 
My thoughts In general, it does 

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feel like this could be a 
negotiation tactic by Trump. 

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Here. 
To start wide, knowing that 

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perhaps all five of these don't 
get in, but then it's easier to 

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pull back and get Bitcoin in to 
the reserve. 

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I would agree with Armstrong's 
take here. 

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I think Bitcoin is the easier 
case, especially just comparing 

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it to to gold market cap 
weighted of course is probably 

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the simplest way to do it for 
the others. 

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But I think there's a lot of 
questions on the merit of 

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including tokens like ADA or XRP
in the reserve. 

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My thought is it would make more
sense in the sovereign wealth 

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fund anyway than a strategic 
reserve. 

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So that was my initial reaction.
I'm not getting too hyped up 

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that we're actually going to get
a strategic reserve with those 

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five assets over the the finish 
line. 

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Anytime, Yeah, Mando. 
Hey guys, how you doing? 

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Sorry, I've only got. 10 
minutes, but what do you? 

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Make of this the reserve. 
Stuff. 

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Well, we were talking. 
Like overall like weekend news 

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and then like would you agree 
with the statement? 

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Like a lot of people are really 
pissed off about the the picks 

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when it comes to the pad, 
etcetera. 

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What do you make of that? 
I think there's just like a 

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probably a misconception about 
the reserve in general. 

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My honest view is that people in
their mind think the Fed is 

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about to print money to buy 
these assets and there is like a

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zero percent chance of that 
happening in my opinion. 

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There's also a very, very low 
chance in my opinion of them 

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using taxpayer assets to to, to 
do this. 

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I don't think they'd be able to 
get through a broad based, 

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particularly in altcoin based 
reserve. 

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The only way for so, so, so if 
the Fed doesn't buy it, the only

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way to buy it is as Tyler says, 
either by a sovereign wealth 

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fund or by, by the Treasury. 
There is a, there is a part of 

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the Treasury which owns foreign 
exchange holdings, but you have 

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to you, they, they own them 
under like very specific 

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national security interest 
scenarios like security and 

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defence. 
So they'd have to argue that 

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that was somehow needed. 
And then in terms of how they 

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would buy them, they would 
probably need to sell gold 

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holdings to be able to do that. 
I think that's. 

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Going to be incredibly tough for
them to be able to do like the 

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idea that they would sell 10% of
their their gold holdings to buy

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anything. 
I think the the number one 

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scenario here and I know that 
sounds a bit doom and gloom, but

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like I just think put to a side 
that you think the US is going 

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to buy these assets. 
I think they, they might call 

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them strategic reserve assets. 
I think they might stop all 

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sales of them. 
I think there's a chance that 

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they work alongside some of the 
miners and start mining some 

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some Bitcoin. 
I think they may get donations 

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from some of these assets, if 
I'm honest, like in the same way

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that World Liberty Financial 
does. 

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Maybe in return for being a 
validator or something like? 

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I don't think that the. 
The the real. 

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Question is how do they get the 
money to buy these assets and 

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that is going to be very 
politically difficult they're. 

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Not going. 
To be raising taxes to do it, 

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there's some, there's some 
commentary that that and that 

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that's on the political level, 
right. 

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So that's like, if the Fed was 
to be able to do it, they're not

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printing money to do this. 
If, if the Treasury was able to 

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do it, they'd have to sell some 
gold holding to do it. 

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And even then, I think that's 
like politically very, very 

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tough. 
An executive order, just just to

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be very clear, does not mean 
they can spend money like they 

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can't spend like you actually 
spend money. 

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You have to, you have to get it 
through Congress and and the 

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Senate. 
So the only way that they could 

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do it via an executive order 
would be that via this, this 

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slice of the, the Treasury 
called the ESF, they'd have to 

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sell gold holdings to buy, to 
buy Bitcoin. 

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But they're not set like there 
is no chance in hell they're 

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sending gold holdings to buy 
ADA, like no chance in hell. 

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But they like maybe they could 
get away with doing it for 

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Bitcoin. 
But even then, I think that's 

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going to be very, very 
difficult. 

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I think the most likely scenario
is that they get this status, 

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they get some form of maybe like
participation from the US in the

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network or they get some form of
tax breaks for being there. 

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I don't know if it will extend 
to capital gains, but they'll 

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probably get, you know, maybe 
there's some of the benefit for 

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being US based. 
And. 

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Then maybe down the line of 
sovereign wealth fund. 

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I'm still not sure how the. 
Sovereign wealth fund will be 

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funded. 
There's some talk about again, 

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like they may have to issue 
debt, like maybe gold backed 

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debt to buy things, but which 
may be more palatable, you know,

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maybe they issue some bonds 
based on the gold, but I think I

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think that's going to be a 
little bit difficult or they or 

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they maybe get some from 
tariffs. 

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There's been some talk about 
like the sovereign wealth fund 

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gets gets funded from tariffs, 
but we're we're not talking 

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about like hundreds of billions 
there. 

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We're probably talking about 
like tariffs are probably going 

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to make in the 10s of billions a
year of revenue for the US. 

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00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,680
So the idea that that that would
then turn into like, and then 

454
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,040
what percentage of that is going
to go to crypto versus other 

455
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,200
things is is difficult to judge.
So, but what I do think is if 

456
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,520
they get this status, you may 
see other countries. 

457
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760
Other. 
Countries move more quickly to 

458
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,560
buy Bitcoin. 
The thing the thing about the US

459
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,960
is it is kind of hamstrung in 
its, you know, it has three 

460
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,280
different governmental bodies 
really, right? 

461
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,920
It has the executive executive 
office, it has Congress, it has 

462
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,600
the Senate. 
So like the idea that like this 

463
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,560
can happen, it's going to be a 
little bit more difficult. 

464
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,920
If the UAE wants to buy some 
Bitcoin on the back, they can 

465
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,880
just do. 
It over overnight, it'll get 

466
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,920
done. 
If Russia wants to do it, it'll 

467
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,040
get done. 
If China wants to do it, get 

468
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,440
done. 
So weirdly, I think getting 

469
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,120
bullish around the the EU s s 
involvement in this. 

470
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,120
Like I actually think when you 
go through the stages of how 

471
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,440
this could be done, it's like 
it's almost infeasible how they 

472
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560
would actually end up holding 
these rather than just like 

473
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,520
confiscating them. 
But what I think it does set is 

474
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:31,200
a bit of a, a global arms race 
for these assets, particularly 

475
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,560
Bitcoin. 
And I think This is why Bitcoin 

476
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,760
dominance I think has gone up 
even higher afterwards as well, 

477
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,880
because I don't think the UAE 
buys ADA, even if it's a 

478
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,240
strategic. 
You think it might? 

479
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480
Buy Bitcoin if it's a strategic 
asset in the US and I think 

480
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,640
Russia might, I think China 
might, you know, China has huge 

481
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,760
mining capabilities. 
Maybe they get involved in 

482
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,640
mining. 
Maybe they encourage their 

483
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,760
government owned entities to to 
to own Bitcoin like so I think 

484
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,840
this still is really strong for 
Bitcoin over everything else. 

485
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,120
And I I think, yeah, like when 
you go through the motions, it's

486
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:13,840
very, very unlikely that I think
any tax dollars or gold will be 

487
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,800
sold to buy all coins. 
Yeah, I, it makes sense. 

488
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240
I mean, at the end they Bitcoin 
is king and clearly it's shown 

489
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:25,360
its hand over the last what we 
pumped and I went to bed alls 

490
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,080
were OK ish. 
And then woke up and I mean, you

491
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,000
text me about like Sonic and 
stuff and I was like I woke up 

492
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,120
and it was like everything's 
like down 10% with Bitcoin still

493
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:36,320
up above 90 K. 
So it, I think it shows here 

494
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,360
that BTCD is, is, is still king 
here. 

495
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,240
Mandel, quickly because I know 
you got to leave in 5 minutes 

496
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,840
and we'll go back to the topics 
today. 

497
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,320
What's your outlook on the 
market now like is this, is this

498
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,440
a suckers rally? 
What is it? 

499
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,360
What is it did this believe? 
It felt is it? 

500
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:53,920
Is it? 
We're either at the stage that 

501
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,440
it'll feel like the rest or is 
this a suckers rally? 

502
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,000
This is, you know, what do you, 
what do we think here? 

503
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,240
We do have the Crypto Summit on 
Friday, so lots of excitement 

504
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960
around that. 
I it's very difficult to work 

505
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960
out like where the 
misconceptions lie because I can

506
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720
tell you something like this and
we can all be like, OK, well, 

507
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,440
that's, yeah, that's probably 
the most likely thing to happen.

508
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,120
But if your Uber driver thinks 
that the Fed's going to print 

509
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,640
money to buy XRP, like we may 
just be living in a different 

510
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,960
reality. 
It's still difficult for me to 

511
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,200
know like what people actually 
think will happen here, but I 

512
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840
also there there's obviously 
like quite a lot of uncertainty 

513
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,640
here. 
Like I'm saying, the most likely

514
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,200
way that they would buy Bitcoin 
would be via a sovereign wealth 

515
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,360
fund, which would probably have 
to issue debt or maybe sold some

516
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,200
like real estate. 
Maybe like I don't know what 

517
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,200
assets would be donated into 
that fund and whether they could

518
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:48,440
raise debt against it. 
But like that's, but that, that 

519
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840
feels very different than I 
think what some people are 

520
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:58,200
talking about here. 
And so I I would probably be 

521
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,720
fading 60% moves in Ada, let's 
put it that way. 

522
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,440
I. 
Don't I don't think I just don't

523
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,440
see a world where that really 
happens other than than than 

524
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,480
maybe tax breaks for the alt 
coins is probably like my 

525
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:21,080
biggest bull case. 
But in terms of the global arms 

526
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,480
race, I think that really even 
if it doesn't happen in the US, 

527
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,880
even if the US doesn't, just 
ends up confiscating the Bitcoin

528
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,120
that it has and says, look, this
is going to form part of the 

529
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,000
treaty reserve. 
And then in the future it says 

530
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680
any, any Bitcoin we confiscate 
will just be kept. 

531
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,400
I think I think other countries 
should buy Bitcoin. 

532
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,000
Yeah. 
Yeah, that makes, that makes 

533
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
perfect sense. 
So we'll see where that takes 

534
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,160
us. 
But yeah, Bitcoins definitely 

535
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,480
was that was the that was the 
move of the weekend. 

536
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,920
You'd love to see that. 
Markets are shaky right now when

537
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,360
it comes to the rest, but looks 
like we're good on on the 

538
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:59,880
Bitcoin front for now. 
Each I mean one of the. 

539
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,680
Takeaways is like did did this 
just kind of cement 78 K as the?

540
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,000
Bottom or 88? 
K, right. 

541
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Like if you actually take a 
look, take a look back like it 

542
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,480
kind of that's kind of just a 
deviation below that 88K level 

543
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,120
of support. 
Yeah. 

544
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,120
Deviation, bruv. 
You know, 88 K was the Yeah, 

545
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,840
whatever that. 
Means we kind of held it. 

546
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,920
So. 
We didn't hold the 88 K pretty 

547
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,880
well. 
It looks pretty good. 

548
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,400
I think Bitcoin looks pretty 
good to me. 

549
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Yeah, I really don't think. 
Any buys in the 80s will age 

550
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,480
well. 
Yeah, I really. 

551
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,240
Don't think you're heading to 75
K Bitcoin. 

552
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,400
We just. 
Did 78 like if everyone's 

553
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,920
expecting 70 usually get people 
were calling. 

554
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,920
For 69 to 75 K, yeah, but 
that's. 

555
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Keyboard monkey. 
No, it wasn't. 

556
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,760
Just keyboard monkey, right? 
I think my answer I think the 

557
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,280
number one KOL in the whole of 
crypto is calling for 75 K 

558
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Bitcoin. 
I I like these. 

559
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,280
Individuals like as people, all 
of them. 

560
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,880
I'm not. 
I'm not. 

561
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200
Saying, I'm just trying to say 
it like people were saying that 

562
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,760
something gets the guy's 
character. 

563
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,200
I'm just saying big, big people 
said we were going much lower. 

564
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,440
I know. 
No, I know like Evan on some 

565
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Arthur, a lot of the a lot of 
the like you said, the bigger 

566
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760
like, you know, multi cycle guys
has been around a little longer.

567
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,040
Like they they all called for a 
little bit. 

568
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,840
If you got 78, like how much 
lower do you want to go? 

569
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:30,840
Like we're from 99.5 K on Friday
by Friday to 78 K on the Friday 

570
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,520
after one week. 
One thing you should. 

571
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Just be cognizant of is that 
like it doesn't when Bitcoin 

572
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,800
does this goes, moves 20% and 
then back 10%, it's going to be 

573
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,920
very volatile. 
So like, again, take profits if,

574
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:52,920
if they're in hand, don't FOMO, 
really don't FOMO. 

575
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,760
But just, I always say it, but 
like we, we were just talking 

576
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,560
about it on Friday, you know, 
just like buy stuff when 

577
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,400
everyone's like, I do not want 
to own anything Well, Friday. 

578
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,480
With the Fear and Greed index, 
Tyler 10. 

579
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,920
How obvious. 
In hindsight, right? 

580
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Like, in hindsight, yeah, that 
played out well. 

581
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
And I was buying it. 
When it was high, right, Like I 

582
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,720
was buying it when the fear and 
greed hit 20, right? 

583
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520
And it was at 88 and then of 
course about 86 and then 84 and 

584
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:29,120
then 78. 
And like feels like, yeah, it's 

585
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,520
not a bad, not a bad thing to 
do. 

586
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,720
So like there are certain buy 
good things on bad days is 

587
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,080
basically what I'm saying. 
Like I don't really think, I 

588
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640
think Bitcoin, Bitcoins kind of 
in a little bit of a no man's 

589
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,440
land here. 
Like maybe you buy it right now 

590
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,480
because it just retraced a 
little bit, but it's not like 

591
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,040
screaming either direction. 
It's. 

592
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Just at the bottom of that 
original range. 

593
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Now remember that range is like 
between 90 and one O 4. 

594
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,240
It's literally just that it's 
hanging at the bottom of that 

595
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,200
now. 
Just chop now. 

596
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,280
It could chop now until until we
get more clarity on what it's 

597
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,560
going to be. 
So this is the original. 

598
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,880
Range. 
This is the range, the famous 

599
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,360
range, right? 
It's tracking the range. 

600
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Yeah, it went. 
Slightly under, people thought 

601
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,640
75, but we got 78, which is 
pretty close and now we're just 

602
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,000
back there. 
We're just literally back a 

603
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,160
little slightly under the range,
so see where that takes us. 

604
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,080
But even Solana, I mean, it 
looks better 158 than it did at 

605
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,520
1:20. 
You know, it was bleeding. 

606
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280
Question for you guys. 
Did any of them like on the meme

607
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,560
side on Solana, did we see any 
relief? 

608
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040
I didn't pay attention at all. 
Memes. 

609
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,560
Memes less so. 
AI, interestingly, has had a 

610
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,160
much stronger bounce than than 
memes. 

611
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,480
Solana. 
Solana AI. 

612
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920
Solana AI Tyler, I mean your 
your eyes are always on that. 

613
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720
How's that doing now? 
Actually, a lot of the gains are

614
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,920
giving back, but in the in the 
news yesterday, a lot of them 

615
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,920
are up 20 to 40%. 
Falcorn's still up 33%, but it's

616
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,240
giving back some gains right 
now. 

617
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:06,120
Arc was up 20%, AI 16, Z was up 
10 to 15%, whereas like Virtuals

618
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,920
was up like 3%. 
Yeah, Virtuals already is back 

619
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,560
red actually. 
Wow. 

620
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,840
NA. 
XPT is back red so yeah it 

621
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560
doesn't feel like they're coming
back. 

622
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Like there's this is not the 
sector to FOMO into right now. 

623
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Like you can build positions 
over time. 

624
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640
I don't think you want to buy 
the RIP candles necessarily, 

625
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,960
especially ones that don't come 
on in the back of any news, but 

626
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,880
they're sticking around, which I
think is a sign of optimism. 

627
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,240
I think for the rest of the mean
board, those that was the 

628
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,880
biggest mover, it was up like 6 
or 7% on the back, but nothing 

629
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,720
really had much more than that. 
Joe Trump was up a lot briefly, 

630
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,360
but I think it's starting to get
back as well. 

631
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,680
OK, that's that's good. 
I mean, look, yeah, someone's 

632
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200
asking, discuss. 
MST are not buying any of that. 

633
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,040
I don't know why this guy 
doesn't just wait for the dip, 

634
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400
but it is what it is. 
I mean, it's insane to me. 

635
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,840
Like, I have a question, like 
honest question. 

636
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Like if you're Michael Saylor, 
you have like technically 

637
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,240
speaking, you have a share, you 
have a you owe it to your 

638
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,640
investors. 
What's it called? 

639
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,000
Duty. 
It's not duty is the word but. 

640
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Yeah, fiduciary. 
Duty just have fiduciary duty to

641
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,640
invest like wisely ish I'm not 
saying like everyone could have 

642
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920
timed this talk but it feels 
like a lot of people could like 

643
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280
at that level you have quants 
that are like funky next level 

644
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,160
quants like you know to pay 10s 
of millions of dollars to their 

645
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280
job. 
Don't you wait. 

646
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,400
It feels like he. 
Telegraphs the moves a lot, but 

647
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,440
at the same time it also feels 
like the market responds now to 

648
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,280
his to. 
His buys, yeah. 

649
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,280
So it's like bigger. 
He's waiting. 

650
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Until he bought and then sell 
off took place. 

651
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,920
OK. 
I mean, it is tough like I was 

652
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680
kind of joking about this 
morning, but my God, man, like 

653
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,080
you could have gotten a 15% 
better entry on 2 billion if you

654
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,880
just waited five days last week.
So maybe you don't. 

655
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,560
You don't have to deploy all in 
one chunk. 

656
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,840
I don't. 
I mean, I don't know the the 

657
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,760
rules and everything, but yeah, 
it does. 

658
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,760
It does seem wild. 
If we hold 88 K this week, I 

659
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,080
think we're going to be feeling 
good after last week. 

660
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,240
Yeah. 
Just back. 

661
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,240
In the range, I think we'll 
we'll be good enough for the 

662
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800
near future, but we've got 
catalysts. 

663
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,640
So today, 1:30 Eastern, the 
president's announcing an 

664
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,440
investment decision. 
So we have no idea what that is.

665
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,680
So, so stay tuned to find out. 
And then Friday, first ever 

666
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,800
crypto summit. 
So I think there's already been 

667
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,680
chatter about like will we pump 
into that summit on Friday and 

668
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960
then will Friday be another sell
the news event? 

669
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,880
So I think expect more it it 
also seems I think Powell, 

670
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Powell is talking Friday. 
So Friday's got the double. 

671
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,920
It's got the the Crypto Summit 
and a Powell speech. 

672
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Someone's saying guys SPX they 
smashed all memes yesterday. 

673
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,639
Why faded? 
First of all, it didn't. 

674
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,600
AI 16 seems far. 
Coin moved more than SPX which 

675
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,960
is back down to 560,000,000. 
Second of all, nobody's fading 

676
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,679
stuff because you're buying it. 
Because we're not talking about 

677
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:19,600
it, because we don't give a 
fuck. 

678
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560
There's like a million other 
memes to talk about and more 

679
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,440
important news. 
Just wanted to put that out 

680
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,360
there. 
It smashed every meme yesterday,

681
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,880
bro. 
The average AI meme moved more 

682
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,000
than that. 
And I don't even hate it. 

683
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
I'm just saying we talked about 
SPX on Friday. 

684
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Anyways, Tyler, what else do we 
have? 

685
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Feels like we have a lot, we 
have time and we have a lot to 

686
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,840
talk about. 
Yeah. 

687
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,800
Should we talk about the the 
crypto Summit here? 

688
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,320
The hell yeah. 
I mean, what do we? 

689
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,320
Know right, it's like. 
We know a decent amount. 

690
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,120
We got a decent release here. 
So it's happening this Friday. 

691
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Attendees include prominent 
founders, CEOs and investors 

692
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,520
from the crypto industry, as 
well as the president's working 

693
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,880
group on digital assets. 
It's going to be chaired by 

694
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,520
David Sacks, our crypto czar, 
administered by Bo Hines, who is

695
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,920
the working group's executive 
director. 

696
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:17,360
So, so those two are going to be
running the show, given we don't

697
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,400
know a whole lot else than that 
based on the announcement. 

698
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,280
But what Sacks has kind of come 
out and said he he's been 

699
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
responding to the criticism on 
on the strategic reserve 

700
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
already. 
And he said this morning like, 

701
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,040
hey, we're not going to use 
taxpayer dollars. 

702
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Like, like, where are you 
getting that from? 

703
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200
So I yeah, that news was. 
Weird that that thing was weird,

704
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,480
so I do. 
Think we should expect a little 

705
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,360
bit more clarity about that. 
So it's about 25 people I heard.

706
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,240
Is that what it is? 
Yeah, I haven't seen. 

707
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,680
Numbers and that's going to be a
tough, I would imagine that's 

708
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,360
like not the easiest room to get
into, I know. 

709
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,720
But that yeah, yeah, it's 
fucking great. 

710
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,040
So the news cycle started with 
that this weekend, right? 

711
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,240
It was the first thing. 
It was Friday night that this 

712
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,760
happened and we saw the news. 
I don't know, man. 

713
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,000
I mean, what do you what? 
So surely, like the 

714
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,840
announcements that came this 
weekend are in line with the 

715
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640
summit being Friday. 
So you have to assume that there

716
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:15,160
will be some talk of a reserve. 
I think so. 

717
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,320
But I think like I think you buy
dips, especially today. 

718
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,240
I'm going to after the show, I'm
going to buy a few dips spot and

719
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,560
you sell into Friday probably 
unless the Friday news is 

720
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,240
fucking insane. 
But it's giving me vibes of 

721
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,280
like, hey, Monday dump from the 
Monday from the Sunday move, 

722
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920
like ETH gave it all back, for 
example, so long. 

723
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,440
I give half of it back. 
Bitcoin give just 50% back, 

724
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,040
maybe a little less than that. 
And then you probably like, I 

725
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,920
mean, there's going to be so 
much speculation around Friday, 

726
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,600
right? 
It's like it's, it's a crypto 

727
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,000
summit. 
It's not a crypto NAI. 

728
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160
It's a crypto summit, Yeah. 
And. 

729
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040
And we know like this, this 
crypto working group has been 

730
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,560
tasked with AI, think I 
developed policies and 

731
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,720
frameworks for the industry. 
Another bullet point on their 

732
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:04,560
list is the strategic reserve. 
They've got 90 or 180 days, I 

733
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,160
forget off the top of my head to
develop that plan. 

734
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,840
So the clock is ticking. 
So I think you can expect 

735
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,560
progress on at least one of 
those. 

736
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,080
And it's not, you know, a huge 
jump to think they're going to 

737
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,200
talk about both, right? 
So I think we should expect some

738
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,840
some news out of that. 
But again, it's going to be a 

739
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
very volatile day with Powell's 
conversation on Friday as well. 

740
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,280
So if Powell perhaps shifts more
dovish. 

741
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,600
So I think we saw those 
trueflation numbers going 

742
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,440
around. 
I don't know exactly how 

743
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,120
trueflation kind of fits in. 
I've seen some flood around it, 

744
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,400
but Trueflation showing that the
the inflation numbers are lower,

745
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,640
like at 1.5%. 
So that's another wild card. 

746
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,360
And added to volatility on 
Friday is the PAL conversation. 

747
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,920
So it's a big day. 
We're going to see a lot leading

748
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,160
up to that this week, yeah. 
It's going to be one thing's for

749
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,040
sure is it's going to be a very 
volatile week, week again. 

750
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,280
So be careful. 
Don't. 

751
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,400
I wouldn't. 
I wouldn't. 

752
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,040
I hope people aren't leveraging 
or like listening saying you 

753
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,360
should leverage. 
I had fun trading spot this week

754
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,640
in size and it felt nice because
it's like worst case I'm down, 

755
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,120
but it's spot so I'll be up 
over. 

756
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Just hold up. 
The time. 

757
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,080
Best case, I make money. 
So the best case, the better 

758
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,760
case happened. 
But like it's like worst case. 

759
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,880
So for a moment I was a little 
down and like, OK, it's OK 

760
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,560
because it's spot, you know what
I mean? 

761
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,600
And you're not paying funding 
fees, which kind of sucks and 

762
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,240
you don't you're not going to 
get, you know, wrecked by an 

763
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,720
exchange down the line. 
So good thing to mark what else?

764
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,000
I feel like there was even more 
going on this weekend. 

765
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Well, the. 
BlackRock model portfolio, we 

766
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,280
talked about that a little bit 
on Friday. 

767
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,880
I do think it's worth bring it 
back up. 

768
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,960
I just sent you the link. 
So I. 

769
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Was looking for that. 
There you go. 

770
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,480
OK, yeah, you got it. 
Added their Bitcoin. 

771
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,880
ETF to the model portfolio. 
So what does that mean? 

772
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,240
So the model. 
Portfolio is effectively like 

773
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,000
their official portfolio of 
investments. 

774
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,640
And the reason that matters is 
it's copy treated so like other 

775
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,080
funds. 
Imagine in your mid, your mid 

776
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,480
level investment fund who sits 
in Oklahoma or just like middle 

777
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,120
America, right? 
Smaller assets under management.

778
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,240
They're trying to figure out, 
you know, how the hell they're 

779
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,480
going to invest this money. 
And all right, you know, here's 

780
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,280
Blackrock's model portfolio. 
Like let's take a look at that. 

781
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,720
And now for the first time, A1 
to 2% allocation to, to Bitcoin 

782
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,240
via the ETF. 
So like this is where to me, you

783
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:50,280
really start to unlock that What
I call is like the infinite swap

784
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,880
where on a a weekly basis, 
monthly basis, the the 

785
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,480
investment money starts 
trickling in. 

786
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,880
Like this is not something 
that's going to pump the price 

787
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,080
this week or this month, but it 
is that, you know, using that 

788
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,000
the bitwise analogy, this is 
what makes it a cargo ship, 

789
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,720
right? 
And like the ship is going this 

790
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:18,440
direction now and it's harder to
to veer the ship off course and 

791
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,840
it's got a lot more weight 
behind it. 

792
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,760
The ship's getting bigger. 
So I think this is such a big 

793
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,480
deal just because like, I just 
don't think people may even 

794
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,320
realize like. 
Investment managers, it's the 

795
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,800
same thing as like coaches in 
the NFL, like no one wants to 

796
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
make their own decisions. 
Everyone wants just to copy 

797
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,760
everyone else because that's the
safer thing to do. 

798
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,120
Like you're going to keep your 
job by copying BlackRock. 

799
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,440
You're not like you make your 
own decision and you lose, 

800
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,360
you're going to lose your job, 
right? 

801
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,280
And some people are are willing 
to go do that, but in fact, the 

802
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,960
average is not. 
So that's why I feel like it's 

803
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,440
going to be copy treated so much
and why it's such a big deal. 

804
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,840
And I feel like that's been 
overlooked, right? 

805
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,320
Everyone's keeps talking about 
like, what is the next bullish 

806
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,240
catalyst? 
Like we've got the strategic 

807
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:07,360
reserve. 
Like what could possibly be 

808
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,800
bigger than that? 
And I don't know. 

809
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Here's one, here's one major 
headline. 

810
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,600
The biggest investment firm in 
in the US is now formally 

811
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,120
allocating 1%, one to 2% of 
their portfolio to Bitcoin. 

812
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,040
It's a big deal and it just 
opens the door, all of this to 

813
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,840
me, in aggregate, it opens the 
door for more investments in the

814
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,200
crypto in the United States. 
Yeah, I think that's the I think

815
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,760
that's what's still being 
overlooked, right? 

816
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Like we don't know exactly 
what's going to come, but just 

817
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,920
the fact that money is pouring 
into this space means more 

818
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,720
people are going to start 
building in this space like 

819
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,240
that. 
That's that's my optimistic view

820
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,880
of this. 
So I think that's where we can 

821
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,360
get surprise Catalyst from. 
Yeah, there's definitely going 

822
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,120
to be a lot going on. 
And again, but that's very 

823
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,720
Bitcoin focus, right? 
It's supposed to show you, man, 

824
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,840
fuck these dips, you want to 
really add as much Bitcoin as 

825
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,440
possible to feel the safest. 
It just always feels like the 

826
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,320
safest portfolio. 
Even if you think, yeah, Ether's

827
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,240
a second or Solano's a thing or 
whatever, whatever you like, 

828
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,040
second, That's to the UPS, the 
people. 

829
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800
It's always Bitcoin. 
It's wild. 

830
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,720
Everything else kind of give 
him, give him about the returns,

831
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,120
All right? 
What about NF TS? 

832
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,680
We haven't talked about NF TS in
a little bit. 

833
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,720
How are NF. 
TS doing NF. 

834
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,600
TS were up nicely today, green 
pretty much across the board. 

835
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,960
Looks like we're giving a little
bit of a back now. 

836
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,560
They kind of moved in line with 
alts, so punks 35 1/2. 

837
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,120
Pingos were back over 10, now 
they're slightly below apes at 

838
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,000
14. 
Couple nice punk sales. 

839
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Yeah, it was on the ape sale, 
right. 

840
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,120
That was I think that happened 
just a few days. 

841
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Oh. 
I forget OV bought an ape, a ape

842
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,680
punk, actually. 
So if you go to recent sales, it

843
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480
was this weekend. 
It's dude, I'm telling you. 

844
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Like there was so much weird 
fuck we going on this weekend. 

845
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,360
Like you had the flash loans on 
the punks. 

846
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,800
That was like $50 million flash 
loans and ape sale, which 

847
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,400
usually starts with quite a bit 
of a run. 

848
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,720
And then you had all the news, 
like it's one of those weekends,

849
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:08,600
you know? 
Yeah. 

850
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,760
And what? 
Are you talking about this? 

851
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,440
Yeah, there's a $2.2 million 
digital collectible sale, pretty

852
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,520
big. 
The guy took a fat loss though, 

853
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,880
so it took 1000, a 1500 ETH 
loss, but you could argue just a

854
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,560
$500,000 loss. 
But still like it's 1500 ETH 

855
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480
that he lost on that sale since 
July 2022. 

856
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,000
So he held three years, 2 1/2 
years and then sold it. 

857
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,240
It's not the best ape in the 
collection, but do you think 

858
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:42,760
this sale age as well? 
What? 

859
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,440
It's 1000 eighth and $2,000,000.
Yeah, I was thinking about this.

860
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Does this age well? 
I I still like putting that 

861
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,160
money into the floor better from
it, and that's more just because

862
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,160
of the liquidity. 
But if you think the floor can 

863
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,480
get back to 250 K USD, have to 
assume it. 

864
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,600
An ape is worth more than 8X the
floor. 

865
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,280
Yeah, apes were selling for 
about 10 million last cycle. 

866
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,880
So right now they're trading at 
24202324 X. 

867
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,720
Like, literally. $10 million a 
year, three years ago, I think 

868
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,040
he could hit. 
A double on that, yeah. 

869
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,520
He can definitely hit a 2X on 
that. 

870
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,960
I guess it could be someone 
that's very like Rich and 

871
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960
doesn't really. 
Yeah, like at this stage it's 

872
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,320
like you probably have so much 
more. 

873
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,000
It's not like he's full pointed 
like, you know, does that wall. 

874
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,600
Have other poxs? 
No. 

875
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Nothing. 
It only has. 

876
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,840
It was only created to buy the 
tape. 

877
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,400
Yeah. 
From Coinbase. 

878
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,920
Look, Coinbase prime, yeah, only
one transfer internally. 

879
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,440
Yeah, I know it was. 
It was only acquired for this, 

880
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,960
you know, it was fun to be a 
Coinbase. 

881
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,160
So too a liquid for. 
Me, but well. 

882
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,240
I was thinking the other day, 
that's why I put the thing on. 

883
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,560
I was like, do I buy 10 Bitcoin 
or do I like 10 punks? 

884
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120
The answer is probably 5:00 and 
5:00 for what it's worth. 

885
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,960
Yeah but but 80% of people 
trended towards 1010 Bitcoin. 

886
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,240
I should put 55 as an option if 
that mistake I I do think 1. 1 

887
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,440
is different question than 10 
tens because with 10 ponks yeah 

888
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,480
but 10/10. 
Is high stakes it? 

889
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Is right. 
No, I like that it, it makes it 

890
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,240
a more interesting conversation 
that the liquidity does come 

891
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:26,560
into issue a little bit more, 
right. 

892
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,280
It's going to be a little harder
for you to unload 10 ponks than 

893
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,040
than Bitcoin. 
So like one punk you can 

894
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,880
probably get out of on the floor
if it's decent within a few 

895
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,440
days. 10 like I mean, this last 
week we had a stretch where 

896
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,640
there was like 1 sale per day. 
So like it, it can be dry at 

897
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,160
times, but if you look at these 
recent sales, the last, the last

898
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,720
two rows of sales are are sick. 
There's no. 

899
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,000
It's so nice because in dollar 
terms they're down so bad. 

900
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,600
So people with cash probably 
like they were down to like. 72 

901
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,160
K they might have got lower than
that I saw. 72 K they're not. 

902
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,800
Much lower in ETH, right? 
It's really in dollars that they

903
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160
they got wrecked. 
But you got. 

904
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,040
This one's sick 3. 
D You got the the TR1 this. 

905
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:21,640
One this one this, this, this, 
this, this, this one that's nice

906
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,760
3D punk I actually really like. 
I almost bought that floor 

907
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920
yesterday because I was like, 
it's not really floor floor. 

908
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,920
It was like the cheapest, 
cheapest, cheapest punk on the 

909
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,400
floor like that. 
I don't know. 

910
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,280
It's it's interesting. 
The only issue, man, is this guy

911
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Ethereum. 
I mean, it doesn't help, right? 

912
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,280
It's in theorem assets. 
So it's a long on Ethereum, 

913
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,000
right? 
I think it's a long on culture 

914
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,800
funks, not just ETH. 
Personally speaking, that's me. 

915
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,920
But at the end of the day, it 
will be denominated in Ethereum.

916
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,280
And that's what you're seeing 
happen right now. 

917
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,880
It's Ethereum floor prices 
holding and the dollar's 

918
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,400
fluctuating. 
Yeah, that is the biggest risk 

919
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,360
to it. 
So you you do need to have some 

920
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,960
level of conviction that ETH 
isn't just going to go. 

921
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,040
To 0 to buy the. 
Punks, but I don't know, I still

922
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,960
feel like my I think my 
theories, my thesis stays where 

923
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,280
in a world where Bitcoin sends 
people are going to look for the

924
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,000
scarce assets. 
And I do think even despite E 

925
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,800
flagging, I think people will. 
There will be a look to punks 

926
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:33,400
and hey, maybe why the AJ peg 
ETF from our old pals Van EC, 

927
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,880
the Lucas teasing dude. 
Let's see I think. 

928
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,240
It's going to be the NFTTFI. 
Just don't think it's going to 

929
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:42,800
be crypto. 
Sorry. 

930
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,960
Penguins only. 
I don't think it. 

931
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Would be Penguins only. 
I think that would be it. 

932
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,240
Also like. 
If you were to have an ETF 

933
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:50,640
around NFTS, you have to have 
punks. 

934
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,200
It's like it's got to be, it's 
the main. 

935
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,520
Like it wouldn't make sense to 
be only one asset. 

936
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,040
I don't think it would. 
It should be like 60 to 70% 

937
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,680
punks. 
What do we think? 

938
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:12,680
If if we were to have if we were
to have an NFT ETF, what do we 

939
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,200
think? 
Punks for Sure there's going to 

940
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,680
be Penguins because Vanek and 
Bitwise are both super like. 

941
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,240
I mean Vanek has had the pudgy 
Penguin PFP forever so you'd be 

942
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,560
it. 
It would actually probably be a 

943
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Vanek filed ETF where Bitwise 
filed ETF in my opinion. 

944
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,200
Yeah, Punk's apes. 
Do we pudgy? 

945
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Do we think there's an ape or? 
Apes. 

946
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,080
Yeah, I think they would have to
be in there. 

947
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960
OK. 
What else though it? 

948
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,840
Raises the question of like, are
you going to include art or is 

949
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,960
it just going to be I think. 
I was about to say art over PF 

950
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,360
PS here. 
That makes it trickier. 

951
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,400
I think they would. 
Probably add a Rafiq if they 

952
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,280
were to add art just because of 
the MoMA shit. 

953
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,240
I don't know what, unless it's 
just a big basket of Penguins 

954
00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:00,120
and punks and apes, but azuki? 
But if you put apes and 

955
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,720
Penguins, you have to put azuki.
See, that's the tough part, man.

956
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,280
Yeah. 
It it it really is tricky like 

957
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,760
when you when you go down the 
PFP route, but then the art 

958
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,040
route like are you doing one on 
ones? 

959
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Are you only doing higher supply
so bitwise? 

960
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,440
Has a blue cheap. 
Bitwise has a blue chip NFT 

961
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,480
index that they launched in 
2021. 

962
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,720
See that's from 2021. 
That was the index back to have 

963
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,240
to be friends. 
That would definitely not make 

964
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,640
it this time. 
So that's what they had in 2021.

965
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,720
That is OK guys. 
Like that doesn't mean Kongs. 

966
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,800
This was here. 
Yeah, Cyber Kongs, which by the 

967
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,440
way, Kraken just announced they 
beat the case. 

968
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,680
So I see dropped against Kraken.
So I hope they drop against 

969
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,360
cyber Kong soon. 
But punks see that's what they 

970
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,240
would do. 
See that was 2021 though. 

971
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,160
That's the. 
Problem with actually. 

972
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,200
Autoglyphs. 
Perfect. 

973
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:52,320
That makes perfect sense. 
It does but like so like this is

974
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,400
the problem with us creating 
this right now it's like 3 

975
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,160
years. 
If whatever list you create, 30 

976
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,120
to 40% of the list is going to 
be like out. 

977
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,240
I feel like they still. 
Have the fund right now, the 

978
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:10,640
index fund I I'm so curious. 
What they actually had, Yeah, 

979
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,160
it's on the. 
Website what the hell? 

980
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,560
Oh fuck I have to like apply. 
I just want to see it like what 

981
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,080
is this Oh my God -80% since 
substantion. 

982
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,120
Oh. 
No, Look at. 

983
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,480
That at least they're honest 
-40. 

984
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,920
Yikes, the index. 
Fund is down 80% since 20. 

985
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Oh, there it is. 
OK, that's OK. 

986
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,800
So it's still the same. 
Oh, there it is. 

987
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:41,680
There it is. 50% punks, 14% 
apes, 14% pudgy, 5% mutants. 

988
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,640
See that? 
That's surprising to me because 

989
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,800
I feel you. 
Yeah, I'd rather have more apes 

990
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,880
than mutants. 
Right Quiggle, Milady, Uzuki, 

991
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,600
Lil pudgy captains. 
So here's what I would do. 

992
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,440
I would remove lils. 
I'll remove mutants. 

993
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,160
I would replace them with 
autoglyphs and fedenza. 

994
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,440
Yeah, problem with. 
Autoglyphs is. 

995
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,640
It's so liquid it's like hard to
I know, but. 

996
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,720
These funds don't give. 
Maybe I don't know. 

997
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,480
Anyways, we're just speculating 
but I have a feeling this is 

998
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,400
going to happen. 
Like think about it, they filed 

999
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,160
ETF for every coin at the stage.
There's like no more coins to 

1000
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,120
like add in terms of filings. 
It's really next thing you go 

1001
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,720
for ERC 721, right? 
Yeah, I mean. 

1002
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,640
Where everything's getting 
tokenized, everything's going to

1003
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,120
get an ETF. 
It's just a matter of time. 

1004
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,200
They should add red. 
Guys and and and and rogue radio

1005
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,880
on a TS. 
I do. 

1006
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,440
Yeah. 
There you go. 

1007
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Well, this is great. 
So Kraken then then we're going 

1008
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,840
to go off announces that the SEC
staff has agreed in principle to

1009
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,760
dismiss his lawsuit against 
cracking with prejudice with no 

1010
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,520
admission of wrongdoing, no 
penalties paid and no changes to

1011
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,640
his business. 
GGS G Oh, grifters. 

1012
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Makes sense UIT port for X copy 
grifters that. 

1013
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:57,760
And that actually is a good 
call. 

1014
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,480
You're right. 
Sorry, I should have said X 

1015
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,480
copy. 
You're absolutely right. 

1016
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,800
I apologize. 
That's a good point. 

1017
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,760
It's Brett. 
Mass coming up. 

1018
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,680
You know Sam's he's up there, 
you know what I mean? 

1019
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,960
I guess like when you think 
ETFs, you think safer side 

1020
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,840
utility. 
That's tough dude. 

1021
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,920
That's going to be an 
interesting one man. 

1022
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,560
I think that would be really 
hard to pass though because the 

1023
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,800
ups and downs are insane. 
Like do you think you're you're 

1024
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,640
the person buying the E NFTTF 
will like the fact that Azuki 

1025
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,160
apes and punks or everything was
like so much higher in 21. 

1026
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,120
Like he sees the things down 80%
in 2-3 years. 

1027
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,720
That's just the indexer. 
Does he buy? 

1028
00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:35,360
That I struggle a little bit 
with the pitch. 

1029
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,000
I struggle with the pitch as 
well, but hey, Lucas kind of 

1030
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,320
good at that. 
So we're going to, that's his 

1031
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,600
job and we'll leave it up to 
him. 

1032
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,960
All right. 
I think we went around the horn 

1033
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,480
pretty well today. 
We'll be back tomorrow morning. 

1034
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,720
That's 10:00 AM Eastern Standard
Time for another episode of film

1035
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,560
where we're on rock radio. 
Let's go.

