1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,520 Yo-yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,600 Good morning, good morning. GMGM. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Thursday. Thursday. 4 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:12,560 Oh my God, I can't stop laughing. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,720 I gotta stop laughing. All right? 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,800 Take it serious, bro. Thursday. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,160 That's my favorite day of the week, though. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,400 I know I hate it on Wednesday, but Thursday is my favorite day 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,400 of the week. Thursday, March 13th, 2020 five 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,320 look at that another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,400 I got my car was in the house. Tyler, Logan Tyler and Logie 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Logie 1 Konomi. That's a great username. 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Never told you that. That's a fantastic username. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,680 How you guys doing this morning? Good morning. 15 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:45,880 It's a big day. There will be blood. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,880 It is the blood moon. Lunar eclipse. 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,960 For all those astrology folks out there, this is a big one. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,360 I feel like something big is going to happen today in the 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,160 markets and my gut raise is probably going to be bad. 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,000 So we're going to see some blood on the board. 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,000 But my hope you have is that maybe we put in some kind of a 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,600 bottom here. So at least on something. 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 So we we will certainly see, but I feel like it's going to be a a 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 big day and then set the tone for this weekend. 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Yeah, definitely. I mean, definitely listen, right 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,400 now they're definitely putting the blood part in the moon part 27 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:23,160 on the markets. That's that's definitely for 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,520 that's for sure. Tyler, the blood part is that me 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,840 being found. I think we're at like we're 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,600 we're looking at this morning until the show started. 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Let's just put it this way. But but but but the full moon 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,680 doesn't occur until what time or we'll, we'll we'll get into 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,760 astrology a little later. Let, let, let, let's do. 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,000 Let's do the whole astrology chart. 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Even Bob Lucas. I don't know if that's good or 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,280 bad. Fucking Bob Lucas was talking 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,440 about the full moon, bro, yesterday. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Yeah, dude. Our, our, our quant. 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Our we, we share a quant here. And he was talking about the 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,800 full moon. I was like, no, not you, dude. 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Me. OK, you. 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,000 I was dying, dude. Anyways, Logan, how you doing 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,880 this morning? Yeah, I'm doing well. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,080 I'm, I'm looking forward to the Blood Moon pretty much clear 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,760 skies here, so should have some good viewing later tonight, but 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,720 we'll see. I, I, I again can't complain 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,440 with the blue skies, sunshine. I know the market's not that 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,640 fun, but this is a a nice reprieve from, of course, winter 49 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:25,560 dreariness. Love that. 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Looks like we're talking about Blood Moon. 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,520 We'll be talking about champagne and wine today. 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,280 We'll be talking. It's alone here. 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,120 We're already getting some thoughts on the timeline. 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,640 You're asking me my thoughts on the US champagne business. 55 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,120 We'll get to that. I have some strong thoughts. 56 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,040 I've I'm very opinionated on that. 57 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,040 Actually, I have a very strong opinions on that. 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,040 The French in me comes out. You know what I mean? 59 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,280 After all, I do have a French passport. 60 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Anyways, today on the show today, full moon Paris trade war 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,840 markets Tyler's top 100 or top five today. 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Honestly, what else we got Robit loot box spin. 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Someone's going to win a crypto punk today. 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,000 I feel it. So I'm just going to call it 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,560 someone's winning crypto punk today. 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,160 And then last but not least, this show is powered by this 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,880 show is powered by I guess I'll be starting some crazy rumors on 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,320 the timeline and I'm really just crying laughing. 69 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,640 Showered by by galaxies. We love galaxies. 70 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:28,000 Shout out to galaxies Gast Web 3 platform empowering creators and 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,960 brands to build on several communities with full ownership 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,120 and independence, trusted by icons like Donald Trump, Steve 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Aoki, Mike Tyson and the NBA, shaping together the future of 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,120 engagement. By the way, no wonder Trump 75 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,520 loves NFTS 10% creator fees, tariffs. 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,840 I it just hit it just hit me. Creator royalties are like 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,120 tariffs. Donald Trump loves NFTS. 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,240 He said it to me on on the on the on the podcast. 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,480 You guys know I interviewed him, right? 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,920 He sure did. Yeah, Yeah. 81 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,040 Yeah, rich man was here to hear that one. 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Anyways, also hold on, that's not only sponsored, we have two 83 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,320 of them chance of the both of them wallet connect. 84 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Wallet connect is the connectivity network shaping the 85 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,280 future of on chain UX. If you've seen, if you've 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,640 connected to Web 3 app, you've seen wallet connect that blue 87 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,079 logo, it's everywhere and icon of trust in crypto is 88 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:18,800 recognizable as Visa as checkout. 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,079 Want to learn more? Follow Wallet Connect on X and 90 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:23,640 Telegram to stay ahead of what's next. 91 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,800 But also I do want to point something out regarding Wallet 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,960 connect. That is really cool because I 93 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,960 know there's a lot of fellow myriad enjoyers on in our on our 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,920 show as well as us 3 Co hosts over here. 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,960 We just launched Myriad markets in partnership with Wallet 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,160 Connect. This is a really fun way with 97 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,800 which we can partner with brands beyond just like what we used to 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,200 do with our radio into quick media, right? 99 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,200 And so we just introduced our first community market. 100 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,520 So you've seen us do this with Pudgy Penguins, you've seen us 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,440 do this with Rec Guy. We are doing it with the Paris 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Blockchain Week next month in April and a lot of other folks. 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,040 But we've just launched our markets that are up to, but 104 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,800 guess what y'all, there's 150,000 wallet connect tokens. 105 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Yes, they do have a token up for grabs for predictors. 106 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,440 So hop on now on Marriott dot Markets, there's a contest going 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,800 on right now and you can make some money. 108 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,760 Y'all literally. And that's also sponsored by 109 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Wallet Connects to check it out. There's five markets. 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Will Wallet Connect exceed 270 million connections in March? 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,240 So you got to do your research on that total unique active 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,840 Wallet Connects, wallets connecting with Wallet Connect 113 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,640 in March. How many new wallets will 114 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,320 connect to every time I say connect, take a hit or drink a 115 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,280 shot. Maybe not now it's 10:00 AM. 116 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,960 Also, if you're under 18, don't do that or under 21 in the 117 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,000 United States of America. Yeah, and growth rate and total 118 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,280 WCD. So some fun markets guys and a 119 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:50,720 cool little thing that we can do with these myriad markets. 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,720 Yeah, let's maybe we come back to this at the end of the show. 121 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,360 You know, for our loyal listeners, I've got the alpha on 122 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,120 a lot of these markets. You do. 123 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,760 I've got all the numbers. Oh shit, I see, because they 124 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,200 also sponsor your on the expose show. 125 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,360 So you've you've searched it so we'll check it out. 126 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,880 But anyways, check it out. Listen, it's free money so you 127 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,600 can you can always check. I know we're not an hour earlier 128 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,960 today, Lukey, the time has changed, brother. 129 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,880 On Sun Saturday night we changed the time Daylight savings. 130 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,280 Daylight savings. Anyways, Tyler, let's hop on to 131 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,200 you. Where is my thing here for daily 132 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:35,160 NFT and crypto analysis. Tyler on FOMO our calls the 133 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,040 kids. Can, yeah, I'll start with some 134 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,280 macro. There's a lot of macro headlines 135 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,480 coming out. So there's more tariff fights. 136 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,320 It, it looks like the European Union is going to levy 50% 137 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,960 tariffs on American whiskey, Trump than countering with two 138 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:59,240 100% tariffs on European wine if they don't back down. 139 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,400 So that was some of the latest here. 140 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,600 We also had PPI. The inflation numbers came in. 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,240 They were also soft this morning under expectations, but markets 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,960 already shaking that off. Stocks were straight down this 143 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,240 morning. I think the indexes are down 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,120 about another percent or so. Crypto majors down, Bitcoin down 145 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,120 about a percent as well. Surprisingly, ETH actually 146 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,040 holding steady, which is pretty shocking here. 147 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,360 We'll get into that more in a minute. 148 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,760 Another big piece, I guess it's not really news, it's perhaps 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,600 more speculation. Last night Commerce Secretary 150 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Howard Lutnick said that Trump wants to cut income tax for 151 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,000 anyone making less than $150,000. 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,880 So there is a lot to unpack there. 153 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,360 And if that would actually be good or bad. 154 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Getting into the the crypto headlines here, the ETH Bitcoin 155 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,200 ratio folks, that hit a five year low yesterday. 156 00:07:53,200 --> 00:08:00,640 One Bitcoin was 44 ETH 44. That is unfathomable number. 157 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,800 We had come out yesterday saying that markets are going to soar. 158 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Scott Besson, maybe some opium blood moon bottom. 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,320 He came out just before the show said that a market detox does 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,520 not mean a recession, folks. So maybe the first time Besson's 161 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 starting to walk back some of that rhetoric. 162 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,480 You love to see that. Breaking news this morning, 163 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Trump family in talks to acquire a stake in Binance US. 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,800 The Wall Street Journal published this. 165 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,880 We'll get into the details. Looks like there might even be 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,960 like some kind of a pardon swap as a part of this gets a little 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,200 messy. We'll dig into the details. 168 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:41,640 This comes just again, a day after Binance announced a $2 169 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,920 billion investment from Abu Dhabi's MGX, the largest ever 170 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,240 crypto native investment. Ripple also received approval 171 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,520 from Dubai to offer crypto payment services in the UAE 172 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Yesterday. We also saw the CBOE seeking SCC 173 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,640 approval to the list of Solana ETF shares on its exchange. 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,120 Cantor Fitzgerald officially announcing its Bitcoin back to 175 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,960 lending for institutions that's kind of launched this July with 176 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,320 $2 billion in initial financing. And the North Korean hacker 177 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,400 group Lazarus has now been linked to six new malicious 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,760 packages targeting developers, browsers and wallets. 179 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,200 And then I think Logan may have helped share this news. 180 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,960 We'll get into this later. Nebraska's governor signed a 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Bitcoin ATM regulation bill. I think this is one of the first 182 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,840 Bitcoin ATM regulation bills we've seen in token and protocol 183 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,360 news. Hyper Liquid changed its margin 184 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,000 requirements yesterday coming out of that whale liquidation 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,520 scenario. Looks like that whale might be 186 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,600 back. Actually, that came out this 187 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,320 morning. Say TBL, the number one mover on 188 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,640 the week for for chains that have more than 100 million in 189 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,640 TBL was up 40% to 310 million. Vera chain also up quite a bit 190 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,520 as well. Let's see in AI, the AI market 191 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,480 was up here this morning. The bigger headline this is 192 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,320 actually pretty interesting. Banker, the Banker bot you may 193 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,840 be familiar. They disabled responses to Grok 194 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,920 after the accident launched 17 different tokens manipulated. 195 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Wait, hold on, I launched 17 tokens. 196 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,840 Yes, it's, it's got like $500,000 in a wall. 197 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Very, it's very unclear who or or how it's going to access the 198 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,520 funds in that wall. So there, there's a lot of 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,040 questions. Oh God. 200 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,360 In memes and Tees. The memes were green this 201 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,120 morning pet that was actually up 13%. 202 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,640 I don't that may have come down a bit since the show started. 203 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,760 And this actually came after Coinbase delisted Floki, Turbo 204 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,080 and Giga from this exchange in New York. 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,880 They're saying it did not meet their listing standards, so 206 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,240 we'll see if that goes beyond just the state of New York. 207 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,720 DRB, the Grok token that fell 5050% after banker turned off 208 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,120 its access. So that was quite the impact 209 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,680 there. Then we also saw Robin Hood list 210 00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:01,240 Pingu Popcat and Peanut the the pee Mee Mee on Robin Hood here 211 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,080 this morning in NFTS a couple headlines Tappert Wizards 212 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,280 announced their latest first five details that will be the 213 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,120 last chance to get on that white list to be able to mint for 0.2 214 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Bitcoin and then a grail cowboy punk what a beauty sold for 75 215 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,320 ETH gorgeous Gandhi yesterday yeah quick rundown the 216 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,000 headlines. I wish I was rich. 217 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,880 I was on like 100 punks. What do that mean? 218 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,440 When I saw that yesterday I was I quickly flashed through my 219 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,000 head like what can I sell to try to buy this and like it just 220 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 didn't make sense. I just look up punks every day 221 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,840 and like. That's a really nice punk. 222 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,440 A really, really nice one. That punks are so nice. 223 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:43,440 Like it's, I think, I think we'd all agree that you are a punk. 224 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,560 Oh, oh, look who's here. Who led this guy on stage? 225 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,240 Keith. Keith Grossman. 226 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,800 Just quickly, I said you were requesting. 227 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,560 First of all, I want to congratulate you for beating 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Iran. I didn't know you bought the 229 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,680 country of Iran this morning. Moonpay announcing that. 230 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Very, very funny. I literally was calling you back 231 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,200 based on your text a second ago and then I was like, oh, he's 232 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,880 on, He's on with that show that he does. 233 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,440 So I was like, I'll I'll jump on and I'll just say hi. 234 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Very funny for like I did laugh do. 235 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,320 You want to quickly, I know that, but this is not an ad or 236 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,720 anything. Keith just likes to randomly 237 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,960 instead of calling me and every day at 10:00 AM because he 238 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 forgets I've been hosting this show for three fucking years. 239 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,920 He loves to come on the show and and and chat with me. 240 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,840 But while you're here, you guys are like buying all of crypto 241 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,320 like what? What is this IRA news? 242 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,840 I thought it was really good and I mean, I thought my joke was 243 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,640 great. Congrats on my on. 244 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,720 So, so, so first the joke was OK, like let's, let's, I'll give 245 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,200 you credit where credit's due. Like I laughed, right? 246 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,920 I chuckled. I did forget that you had the 247 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,480 show, right? So yes, it has been three to 248 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,840 three years and yes, I will spare everyone. 249 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,160 Just so everyone knows this would be how faroke and I talk 250 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,160 to each other when we when we chat on the phone. 251 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,520 OK, so we are chatting on this one. 252 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:58,760 So no like look, you know this we've been very open about this 253 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,320 and and blunt like like Moon Pay, we if if PayPal was 254 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,000 rebuilding itself using blockchain technology today, 255 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,280 like like it would be building what Moon pays built right. 256 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:15,040 And ultimately this Iron deal, the acquisition is our Braintree 257 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 moment, right? This is the moment where we are 258 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,520 able to essentially allow, you know, all of the B2B businesses 259 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,480 who use AP is to sort of interact with stable coins and, 260 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,080 and move into this new business in this new area. 261 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Like we see, like we see huge opportunity here for us. 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,760 And you know, our goal was as ultimately to continue to, you 263 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,320 know, build the backward compatibility for the existing 264 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,560 financial ecosystem to access this decentralized ecosystem. 265 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:48,120 And ultimately what we're doing is we're building a membrane 266 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,920 around sort of like what exists today to be able to access all 267 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,560 of these amazing decentralized apps and and ecosystems. 268 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:58,320 And iron just continues to accelerate that for us, but with 269 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,240 stable thoughts. Wow, Congrats. 270 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,840 Yeah, no, it's, it's we are so excited. 271 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,400 I, I will say like I could not be more excited. 272 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,960 I couldn't be more excited about the space right now. 273 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,240 But like, you know, I, I, I was just calling you back to say 274 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,280 that I thought your joke is OK. Appreciate it, Keith. 275 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Can I may I since I saw Myriad jumped up on stage, I am 276 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,440 following the stats on Myriad and like your daily stats are 277 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,360 unbelievable. Like they are really cool, Like 278 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,760 and like I hope that you and your team are really proud of 279 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,520 what you're building. It is awesome. 280 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Thank you very much. Yeah, we are. 281 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,880 We just crossed $300,000 of volume an hour ago. 282 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,200 So 6000 traders. So things are ramping up. 283 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,280 One thing you've noticed which is funny, Monday, Tuesday, 284 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,800 Wednesdays, people don't really predict much and as soon as 285 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,440 Thursday hits, volume just explodes, which is very 286 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,120 interesting. Why wait? 287 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,680 But but this is on what, one week's worth of data? 288 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Like, yeah. 6-6 days, yeah. Six. 289 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,280 No. No, no, hold on. 290 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,440 But it it's, it's funny, right? Like you're going to start to 291 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,720 see patterns off of myriad and off of bets. 292 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,920 It's going to be like certain news things are going to trigger 293 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,480 things. Certain sort of times are going 294 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,320 to trigger things. Right. 295 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,240 The market too, right? I've never understood why. 296 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,160 Like why do flows at moon pay over the weekend sort of light 297 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,120 inverse during the weekday, right? 298 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,560 Like you would think that everyone is at home on the 299 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,760 weekend bored and buying crypto, but no, like apparently people 300 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,120 buy crypto Monday through Friday and then they buy it a little 301 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,320 less on Saturday and Sunday, right? 302 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,800 So it's like these things are things that you just start to 303 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,960 see when you start to get large numbers. 100% no. 304 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,360 I love that. Yeah, we all think weekends are 305 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,560 big, but then weekends kind of suck, honestly. 306 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Well, anyway, like, continue on with your cute little show and 307 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,960 give me a call. Give me a call, yeah. 308 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,880 I'll call you right after. We'll catch it and to everyone, 309 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,320 everyone in the audience, I I kid it. 310 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,000 It is great to see so many great names out there, like whether 311 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,640 it's fungibles or Jenna or Q love that I mean, or wall fog. 312 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,560 I mean it's it's so fun or Zanzibar. 313 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Like I'm just going through the list looking at like all these 314 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:05,360 people that like from 2020-2021 that like you, you'd see, and 315 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,440 they're still in the rooms and like still building. 316 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,800 And I hope you know more than anything else that that even 317 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,280 though I'm in and out, like we're making you proud. 318 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,840 And that like the run radio team and that the Decrypt team is 319 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,480 making you all proud too, right? Like this is just awesome. 320 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,360 OK, goodbye. It's. 321 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,480 Been a pleasure sticky. Anyways, we'll love to see that. 322 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,360 Real quick, what a breath of fresh air just to hear from the 323 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,400 founder who's excited about crypto and supporting builders. 324 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,160 Man, I could we just get there's still so much negativity on the 325 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,560 timeline. Yeah, just nice to to see 326 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,520 someone who cares and still has a positive output. 327 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Yeah, it's, I agree with you. Maybe we should just get more 328 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,400 on. I, I, we always say that, but we 329 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,840 also get so busy. But it's, it's, it's what? 330 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Because on the founder side, dude, like every founder will 331 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,920 get on here will tell you how excited they are about the 332 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,120 space. Because I, I get to interact 333 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,400 with a lot of them. And then when I go to 334 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,240 conferences, I go to all these like dinners or whatever the 335 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,320 fuck, like all these things and everybody's like super hyped. 336 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,040 And I was actually with the founder of Moon Pay in DC having 337 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,960 dinner last week. And they're just crushing, man. 338 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,200 And the numbers you're seeing like they keep on hitting new 339 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,960 highs of inflows. It's so crazy. 340 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,160 It's insane. And on all all all fronts, 341 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,079 right? So it's, it's actually wild. 342 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:23,680 And now that they've bought this, it's crazy. 343 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,160 It's also like, I saw Ivan, that's their founder, right? 344 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,040 He was on national television this morning. 345 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Like was it CNBC or something? It's crazy everyday guys. 346 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,920 I feel like you open the TV now and you have like a crypto 347 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,400 founder on. Definitely you. 348 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,040 Would have never thought. There's this sentiment that we 349 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,520 didn't on board anyone this cycle. 350 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,640 I feel like Moon pay would have a very specific. 351 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,800 I think they would disagree, yeah. 352 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,840 And opposite point of. View I think we may not have on 353 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,320 board as many people on CT but even that's wrong. 354 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Like on some went from like 50K followers to 700,000. 355 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,920 You know what I mean? Like that's how you know, like 356 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,880 right guy gained like 200,000 followers a cycle or Frank or 357 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,200 this or that. Like even I though I gained most 358 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,800 of my following in 2021, like 350K of them, I still managed to 359 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,520 put on another 100,000 followers a cycle. 360 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Tyler, you've followed a lot of followers. 361 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,520 Like it's like just if you look at like just on some, I think is 362 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,520 the best metric because he was kind of like the main character 363 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,160 of the cycle going up from from the start. 364 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,480 Like this guy has a what does he have 707,000 followers? 365 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,320 And I'm pretty sure he was like sub 50K when when that started, 366 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,760 at least some 100. So I think that goes without 367 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,560 saying that we definitely onboarded some people this 368 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,000 cycle, but they may not be the people that will be on here 369 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,280 buying our bags. But anyways, this is a bunch of 370 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,480 stuff to, to, to talk about here today. 371 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Tyler, Maybe we could start with the market and the astrology if 372 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,120 you want? Yeah, the astrology is into the 373 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:51,520 blood moon. So I think historically what's 374 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,120 been wild about crypto and astrology is these full moons 375 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:57,080 like often do mark local bottoms. 376 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,960 Like do you remember the one in in January? 377 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,520 It it marks the the local, you know, very massive red, red day. 378 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,120 It was, it was the full moon. And like there was one who had 379 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:11,120 called like the last three cycles, they'd all bottomed on 380 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,000 the yeah, on the full moon. Now it's a blood moon. 381 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,520 We've got folks like Bob. Trading View has moon phases. 382 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,560 OK, It's a real thing, Tyler. Definitely. 383 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,680 It really is. I have no idea why, but I'm the 384 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,840 kind of guy when I when I see enough of a trend, I'm like, I'm 385 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,800 at least going to acknowledge it and not just totally dismiss it 386 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,040 because I don't know why. But maybe there are a lot of 387 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,440 people out there who do like to trade on moon cycles. 388 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,640 So I'm at least going to respect that. 389 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,680 We've got Bob saying time for some New Hope in the markets in 390 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,000 a rally on the full moon cycles. Are well positioned markets 391 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,120 really oversold. So like that is the thing. 392 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:49,360 It's like a lot of these assets do feel like they're really, 393 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:54,440 really oversold. And now maybe we've got some 394 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,600 reasons for optimism from investment here this morning. 395 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Walter Bloomberg just shared that right as we were going into 396 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,000 the show open. Oh really? 397 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,880 Yeah, I must have missed that. Must be what we're bouncing now. 398 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Yeah. So stocks V shaped basically at 399 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,400 at the same time. So it does feel like perhaps 400 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,120 that might be somewhat related. Oh, he's talking right now. 401 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,440 OK, yeah, so Besson must be talking live. 402 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Yeah, like 36 seconds ago, Government shutdown, not good 403 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,800 for the economy, Besson. We've had big unwinded markets. 404 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,920 Yeah, looks like he is speaking as we speak. 405 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,280 There it is. They're the fifth one. 406 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,200 Fifth one, Yeah, Yeah, he's live after big station dollars. 407 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Natural that other currencies could do well, U.S. special 408 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,360 envoy Steve Witkoff is in Moscow for talks with the Russia 409 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:44,200 official. Oh, wow. 410 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,280 So Witkoff is in Moscow right now? 411 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,720 He does a lot, yeah. Witkoff. 412 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Partner like do peace with Hamas, peace with Ukraine and 413 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Russia and at the same time buy Binance. 414 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:58,200 I love that a lot. Is happening then there there's 415 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,160 the big 1A detox does not have to be a recession. 416 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,840 So I think a lot of folks have been reading into this is a good 417 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,720 take language saying like more pain, more pain is coming. 418 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,920 But here he's like, finally, like pumping the brakes a little 419 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,800 bit. This is a good take though. 420 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,440 And we've been talking about this week like the the Max 7 are 421 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:22,120 down 20%, Bitcoin is down 25% E down 50%. 422 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,360 It it's, it's normal to be more bearish at the bottom and think 423 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,680 things are going much lower. But who knows, maybe we're going 424 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,960 to start to see some signs. We've got FOMC next week. 425 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,760 That's going to be pretty important at this point to see 426 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,640 if Powell has seen enough in the inflation data to, to start to 427 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,560 to change direction. So it feels like I don't know if 428 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,360 we're going to see any major movements ahead of that. 429 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,280 That does seem like an important meeting. 430 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Now we had PPI once again come in a little bit under but of 431 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,200 course the other backdrop to all this is the Trump tariffs and 432 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,560 just need volatility now like we Americans are going to be forced 433 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 to really dive into our California Reds here because 434 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,000 those French wines are going to be quite a bit more expensive if 435 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,360 these tariffs step 200. So you go on. 436 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,360 No, that, that that's what they they offer. 437 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:18,480 So I think, I think the EU counter was tied to the aluminum 438 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,000 tariffs the US proposed. They they counted with 50% 439 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,400 whiskey and then Trump counted with 100% on a French on the 440 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,280 European one. This is so funny. 441 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,880 It's like seeing like you've ever seen your kids argue with 442 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,040 Tyler. I'm sure you have, right? 443 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Does it feel similar right now? Yes, it it really does it like 444 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,520 it is. It is a little strange to see 445 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,440 like major global policy play out like this. 446 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,040 And like, I think it's one of those things that we've just 447 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,760 like come to expect it from Toronto. 448 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Like it, it isn't normal. It really doesn't feel like this 449 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,080 is how things should be done. And it's almost like Europe 450 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,120 counters and then he just comes up with something to like, oh, 451 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,440 I'm going to hit you back with this if you don't back down. 452 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,840 And it's impacting everyone. Yeah, it definitely is impacting 453 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,200 everyone. So interesting times ahead in 454 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,320 the markets and looks like it's still going to go on. 455 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,480 I mean, every time we think that there's like last night, there 456 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,600 was some relief on the, on the, on the, on the, on the tariff 457 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,080 stuff and this morning and no. So I guess we'll see where that 458 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,840 goes. But at the end of the day, I 459 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,640 mean, you know, you guys are losing out on the on the, on the 460 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,160 alcohol deal because you know, best wine, champagne all comes 461 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,440 from Europe, you know what I mean? 462 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280 And the EUR, they're fine because they've got that Irish 463 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,720 whiskey, they got that Scottish shit they got and they can get 464 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,080 the Japanese stuff. So you know, you guys won't just 465 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,760 you guys just won't be blessed for with French wines what you 466 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,200 get for creating Napa Valley. Yeah, I mean, American bourbon 467 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,520 is better than Irish whiskey. I think that's pretty 468 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,840 objectively true. I don't have a skin in that 469 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 game. Maybe Sims wants to weigh in. 470 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,080 But Logan, what do you think? Yeah, I'm a I'm a bourbon guy. 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Most of my shelf is American made, although I do have some 472 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Japanese stuff here as well so I think I'll be OK. 473 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Yeah, you guys will be fine. The funny thing about the 474 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,480 alcohol thing is that everyone's going to be fine. 475 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Like everyone's. It really makes their own like 476 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,640 booze, you know what I mean? Yeah, so people like literally 477 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 will make their own. We'll have to have whiz on and 478 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,800 get into a longer debate between. 479 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Oh God. California Reds versus. 480 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,480 Whiz and I have been arguing about this since 2021. 481 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,120 I think I'm on his side. Of course you are. 482 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,280 You're American. You got to be on his side, you 483 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,120 know? You got to. 484 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,000 You got to. Hey Chad, what do you guys think 485 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,760 French wine or or American wine? You know, let's see let's see 486 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,280 what the chat things anyways looks like blood moon and the 487 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,320 and the eclipse. So it's an eclipse, right? 488 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,160 We'll take. Yeah, you don't. 489 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,880 You don't need special glasses. I looked it up. 490 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,360 OK, so this one, you don't need special glasses. 491 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,200 You can see it at 1:00 AM Eastern Standard Time peak here 492 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,440 if you're trying to look at it. I remember last year I saw one 493 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,120 who's in Saint. I was in France. 494 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,120 I was in South of France looking the blood moon was fucking nuts. 495 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,680 It actually is going to be really cool and I think I saw 496 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,240 like 1 to 3:00 AM is roughly the the window. 497 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,960 I think it it clearly depends where you're at. 498 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,840 But and. I think it's supposed to be 499 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,320 clear skies at at least for for big like the US. 500 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,200 So this is going to be a cool one and hopefully all of our 501 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,520 bags haven't gone to 0. Yeah, hopefully we pray. 502 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,040 We definitely will be praying for that. 503 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Today's code one. That's funny. 504 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,560 I don't think it is. We'll see. 505 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,600 What seems pics. Is that other wine? 506 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,360 Everybody say oka not A and wine. 507 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:38,880 What the fuck is oka not A and wine? 508 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Bro? You guys are making up words at 509 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,080 this stage. Peaky Blinders whiskey code is 510 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,600 wine. American Fuck yeah. 511 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,160 Listen, I love America, but you guys are not going to have that 512 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,280 one out on my deathbed. You guys wanna have that one. 513 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,440 Not the one Kelowna want want. This this guy, this Noel guy's 514 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,240 just making up words here. You know, Listen, I love the 515 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,400 First Nations, but there's no chance to make better wine than 516 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,360 the French to the Italian, OK? Anyways, Tyler. 517 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Yes, we have time a lot now, like a lot came out right before 518 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280 the show. So this Binance news we got, we 519 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,120 got to talk about that. Let's talk about that breaking 520 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,520 before the show. It looks like the Trump family 521 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:25,160 is in talks to acquire a stake in Binance USI have not had a 522 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,440 chance to actually read this article yet. 523 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,080 So I I basically just have the headline at this point. 524 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,600 I, I've also seen some segments, I think clipped from the article 525 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,320 where it looks like perhaps CZ Binance is somewhat like 526 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,240 negotiating like a pardon, perhaps as a, as a part of this 527 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,800 investment deal. So there's a lot to unpack. 528 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,560 So, so clearly that is not a, a good thing, right? 529 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,040 To like have some kind of a, a pardon swap for an investment. 530 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,160 So, so not a fan of that. I, I was, it did kind of get my 531 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,080 wheel spinning a little bit this morning of does CZ deserve a 532 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,440 pardon or not. So let's let's put like the 533 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840 messiness of tying it to an investment aside. 534 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,520 He was that what he was put in jail for were anti money 535 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,200 laundering violations under US regulations. 536 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,320 The SEC is no longer going after any of these crypto businesses 537 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560 under these regulations. Basically at least that that's 538 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,560 my my read on it. So like this, this wouldn't 539 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,640 happen moving forward. And like the reality is like 540 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,400 again, so this is my area of expertise. 541 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,520 I did anti money laundering consulting for U.S. banks and 542 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,480 every major bank has a consent order from the SEC for a laundry 543 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,280 list of all their violations against US anti money laundering 544 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,640 rules. It's just a matter of how big 545 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,400 are the penalties and usually the penalties are monetary. 546 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,880 But like, is it because it was crypto? 547 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 It's easier to go after the the crypto guys. 548 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,040 And this is a part of broader, you know, trying to shut the 549 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320 industry down. It was also a good good way to 550 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760 get money right like they slapped in then it was in the 551 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,480 massive fine. It was the easiest money to. 552 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,880 I feel like the SEC was going after the easiest cases to make 553 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,040 the most money, right? So that they go after CZ and 554 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760 like, I guess my point is I don't know that I don't think he 555 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,000 would be getting indicted and under the new SEC. 556 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,680 No chance because they dropped everybody else, right? 557 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,280 If they drop, they dropped everyone. 558 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,240 They got what, $400 million out of OK X recently, though, I 559 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,520 don't know you, I know you guys saw that, OK, except to forfeit 560 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,840 all the fees that they made and from the US traders or 561 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,360 something. Most recently, I think it was 562 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920 last week, the week before. Oh yes, I do remember seeing 563 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,280 that. Yeah, but nobody was like, 564 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 prosecuted, right? Like he went to prison. 565 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,760 Yeah, that's the thing, right? It's like it's very rare for the 566 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,320 heads of these banks. If the violations are bad 567 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120 enough, there is historical precedent for people to actually 568 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800 go to jail, but it's pretty rare. 569 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,400 And he wasn't allowed to leave the US. 570 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 That was the whole thing, right? Because he lives in Dubai and he 571 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,800 was like, had to stay in Seattle or something, remember? 572 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,560 But so, so those are my thoughts there. 573 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240 But but you know, Logan, I'm curious for your thoughts, like 574 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400 does it make sense for like, should we be cheering on the 575 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,920 Trump family, you know, getting deeper into Binance, getting 576 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,120 into acquiring more crypto platforms? 577 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,760 I think it's a different discussion. 578 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,720 I, I maybe have a a differing opinion for most here. 579 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,280 I I don't like that too much to be honest. 580 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,760 This is like one of those things where it feels like the 581 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440 continuation of the potential narrative of enriching 582 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,960 themselves, right, and their family with the ability to 583 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040 control policy. And I just like why? 584 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120 Why keep pushing the envelope here? 585 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960 Like this is the type of stuff to me that is going to bring 586 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280 about heightened scrutiny for the foreseeable future. 587 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,160 And I think rightfully so as well, right? 588 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,280 Like how much backroom deal money, crony capitalism, 589 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,280 whatever you're going to call it, right? 590 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,840 How much of that is happening? These types of headlines, these 591 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200 types of endeavors, that's the type of stuff that's going to 592 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,080 keep that at the top of anybody who's on the opposite side. 593 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560 These are the headlines that are going to stay at the top of 594 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,400 their you know, To Do List for the foreseeable future. 595 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,480 And if you want things to not be unwound in four years if Trump's 596 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,200 no longer the president, like these are these are the things 597 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,320 that I I don't really want to be taking place. 598 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,920 Like they're going to make enough money as is with their 599 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,120 their current things probably do we need to keep, you know, 600 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880 putting ourselves closer and closer with personal business 601 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640 endeavors? I don't know. 602 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,920 I'm not a big fan. I think it's a very fair take. 603 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,480 I don't have a strong stance on either sides, but I I think 604 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Logan makes fair take, has a fair take because what happens 605 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 in four years, right? I guess that's the way you're 606 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,600 seeing it. Yeah, I, I mean, you have we, we 607 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,360 don't know who's going to be president in four years. 608 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,560 We don't know which administration or, or sorry, 609 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,120 which, you know, which side of the aisle is going to be have 610 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,120 power or control. And we don't know what the 611 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,640 stance on crypto is going to be. You know, we hope it's going to 612 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200 be largely positive, but there's a chance if you continue to like 613 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,080 stack up these headlines like this that, you know, a lot of 614 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,200 people read this as Trump getting richer, right? 615 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,960 That that's how it's read by the people who already dislike 616 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440 crypto. That's the type of stuff that I 617 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,640 just think like you, you're adding little negative stains 618 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,720 that you don't need to add. You don't need to add. 619 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,720 We've made so much progress, so many little positives that, 620 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,160 yeah, are are fantastic. And why, why does Trump also 621 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,000 need a, a stake in finance? You know, why does the family 622 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,760 also need a stake in finance? Like, I don't know, there, there 623 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,320 are like I'm, I'm somebody that thinks there are conflicts of 624 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,040 interest that we don't need to engage with. 625 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,560 This feels like one to me. If you're the president of the 626 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,960 United States, your family probably shouldn't be 627 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,240 participating in deals like this where you directly control 628 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,360 policy that would benefit these deals, you know what I mean? 629 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,080 So that's my feeling do. You view every headline, every 630 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840 action like this under the lens of does this strengthen the 631 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,200 narrative that all of crypto is a scam or does it weaken that 632 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920 this is one that kind of falls. You could it could easily fall 633 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,640 into the crypto is is a scam. Trump's just doing this to make 634 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360 himself rich. So I I do share those concerns 635 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,160 and like the other story that that's playing out now tied to 636 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,640 the to us perhaps, you know, winding this all back in four 637 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920 years. So the the Dems, the US Dems in 638 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Congress are bashing the stable coin bill. 639 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,240 So I'll give folks a quick background. 640 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440 So the stable Act is a Republican backed bill. 641 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,320 It aims to regulate stable coins. 642 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,320 This would allow stable coin issuers to operate primarily 643 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,440 under state supervision rather than federal oversight and 644 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000 reduce regulatory requirements at the national level. 645 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,360 So that's the high level of what this bill is. 646 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,640 The news from yesterday is the Dems are coming out very heavily 647 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,920 against it, saying it's basically going to create a race 648 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,840 to the bottom with regards to regulations, going to get big 649 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,600 tech a huge leg up here, and perhaps even kind of weaken the 650 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,120 US dollar here. So Maxine Waters come out and 651 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 says this is tearing down the wall that used to separate 652 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,680 banking from commerce. Stephen Lynch saying this is 653 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600 going to allow big tech firms like Meta and Apple to 654 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,400 effectively become stable coin issuers and dominate the market. 655 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,280 And Brad Sherman saying there's only one of the ends of the 656 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000 coins we're talking about, and that is the crypto Bros can make 657 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880 money from it. It's always like that, dude. 658 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,680 It's see on the flip side, then you have that stuff also. 659 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,480 That makes no sense, right? Like Senator Warren, literally, 660 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080 do you see what she said? Do you guys both see what 661 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,480 Senator Warren said? No, I missed what she said. 662 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,360 She says that the stable coin bill, right, whatever it is, the 663 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,480 ACT, the genius act. She says this bill would allow 664 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,400 SBF to buy a stable coin company from prison with no 665 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,600 repercussions. And she said the stable coins 666 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,880 provide a boost for the sale of child pornography. 667 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,639 Yeah. So this is just like the kind of 668 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:22,040 talking points that one side of the aisle is going to hear and 669 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,880 it's going to take it as fact because they don't know the 670 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,199 insurance and outs of what this is all what it all actually 671 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,600 means. This is why we're so divided on 672 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,280 on all these issues. I agree. 673 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,159 And like what was the I'm looking at her name the MSNBC 674 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,679 woman who who did her crypto rant last week. 675 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,000 She started out by saying I don't know anything about crypto 676 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,080 but here's my 4 minute thoughts. And then she just goes out and 677 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,239 compares like Bitcoin to Beanie babies. 678 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,040 Yeah. Was that real? 679 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,960 Yeah, was we? Do we have breaking news here 680 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,159 from CZ? Hold on four. 681 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,480 Sorry to disappoint 444. So breaking news here. 682 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Hold on. I never get to use this button. 683 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,040 Hold on, hold on. I never get to use this button. 684 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,760 Where is it? Fuck See, I don't even know 685 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,480 where the button is because I never get to use it. 686 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,440 God damn it, where there is this just in? 687 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:20,680 Rogue radio breaking news. Four, CZ denies allegations that 688 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,960 the Trump family is trying to get a stake out of finance. 689 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120 US four, sorry to disappoint, the Wall Street Journal article 690 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,440 got the facts wrong. Go figure. 691 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120 More than 20 people have told me they were asked by the Wall 692 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,320 Street Journal and in other media. 693 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,360 Can you confirm that CZ made some deal for a pardon? 694 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,920 They probably ask hundreds of people to have 20 people reach 695 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,360 out to me. In essence, they tried to make a 696 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,200 story to report. Make a story. 697 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,400 In bolt fact, I have no I have had no discussions of a Binance 698 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,640 US deal with, well, anyone. No felon would mind a pardon, 699 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,640 especially being the only one in U.S. history who has was ever 700 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,720 sentenced to prison for a single BSA charge. 701 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,840 Feels like the article is motivated as an attack on the 702 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,000 president in crypto and the residual forces of the war on 703 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200 crypto from the last administration are still at 704 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,120 work. I am always happy to make crypto 705 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960 great everywhere, US and the rest of the world. 706 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,200 It's good to see that the Wall Street Journal thinks I should 707 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,520 be pardoned. So I guess that kind of cancels 708 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,480 the entire conversation we had earlier. 709 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,920 Thoughts here boys? Well, I mean this is just wild. 710 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,640 It just shows corruption and what used to be, I think one of 711 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,560 the most well respected, you know, media publications out 712 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,440 there with the Wall Street Journal. 713 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,600 So they're they're trying to find information to paint the 714 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,840 narrative that they want to paint. 715 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,080 If. They want to write the story so. 716 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320 But this also shows what the risk is right now. 717 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,280 The risk is that crypto is Trump. 718 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,840 And the reality is still huge portions of this country don't 719 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,880 like Trump. And in four years, if the dims 720 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,280 are in power, what does that mean? 721 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,840 Are we, are they going to try to to reverse all this? 722 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,640 Executive order day one. We are repealing every single. 723 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,360 That is non zero, yeah, nobody's talking. 724 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,080 Nobody's really talking about that, but it's something I've 725 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,480 been thinking. About we don't talk about that. 726 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,400 I know, but like can most of these things like Bitcoin 727 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,680 strategic reserve, like can that be wiped day one with an 728 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,640 executive order like to sell literally everything? 729 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,080 I have no clue. I don't, I don't know. 730 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,800 Those are things we should probably know though. 731 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,880 I'm laughing, but I think the reality is I think we need if 732 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,440 you're a bull, I think a few things. 733 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520 We want to make as much progress in the next 4 years that that 734 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,400 positive things can't just be reversed with executive orders 735 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,080 and BI think we need to do things the right way and and try 736 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,680 not to have like this. And we don't We have to figure 737 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,240 out how not to make it like Trump equals crypto, right? 738 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,720 It can't, it has to be bigger than that, right? 739 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,640 Yeah. I will say. 740 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,600 Yeah, I'm sorry. No, no, you go ahead. 741 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,640 You know, did some reporting back near election time, that 742 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,520 one like maybe small positive here is that with all of the 743 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,880 crypto lobbying which happened, a lot of money was spent, but it 744 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,520 was a bipartisan effort and there were people elected on 745 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,240 both sides that are pro crypto. It's not just, you know, to sort 746 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,640 of pull ourselves away from this Trump equals crypto thing, 747 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,960 Republican equals crypto thing. Like actually a lot of new 748 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,480 people that were elected this year to Congress, both House and 749 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,160 Senate were from both parties, which is a good thing. 750 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,560 And so hopefully in four years, right, there's better 751 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,560 understanding, better education, you know, of course, new 752 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,120 election cycles as well that will continue to push people 753 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,760 from both sides to find a happy middle ground so that right 754 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,520 there aren't those major conflicts of interest that 755 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,280 create those negative headlines. And then, you know, the positive 756 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,840 headlines the other side are are pulled back in a way that it's 757 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,000 not just crypto Bros getting rich as well. 758 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200 So. Just a small and we're seeing 759 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,840 that with the the D5 bill that is getting bipartisan support to 760 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,440 to be reversed the the bill that was basically. 761 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,680 A lot of bipartisan support. Yeah, that's. 762 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,920 An important clarification of it. 763 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,760 You know, I think also like there's a world where they also 764 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,920 get pilled like the next generation Democrats because you 765 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,320 could argue like Maxine Waters and stuff. 766 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,240 These people are like, they're like a million years old also, 767 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,800 right? No offense, at least a million, 768 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,480 but it's just they shouldn't like I, I don't understand why 769 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,640 we have like such, you know, old people at the helm of 770 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,280 everything. Now look, Trump is not young 771 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,520 himself, but he's surrounded by a lot of the younger folks like 772 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,960 Bo Hines, like a young guy throughout, like taking care of 773 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,760 digital assets, stuff like that. David Sacks is not that old, 774 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,560 right? And he has the actual has real 775 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,440 business experience, etcetera. So I'm just like, I'm I think 776 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,000 there's also the next generation Democrats. 777 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,560 Like look, I know in crypto people were maybe afraid to say 778 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,520 that they're Democrats, right? For obvious reasons, because 779 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,640 also they get attacked on the timeline, which that shouldn't 780 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,920 happen for what it's worth, but. They're in crypto and they're 781 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,360 Democrats, but that doesn't mean they agree with what Biden was 782 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,640 doing, right? I think a lot of people that 783 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,040 were also supporting Donald Trump's for this crypto reasons 784 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,320 were also Democrats that were just against what the Biden 785 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,840 administrations were doing. So there is a world where people 786 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,240 are Democrats and it's totally OK. 787 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:20,560 It's hard to seize, dude, right? It's just the way the way your 788 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,280 political affiliation and you can be pro crypto and Democrat. 789 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,960 So there's also that world, right, where A next generation 790 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,880 of people comes into place because the future is pro 791 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,480 crypto, The youth is pro crypto, whether they're left, right, 792 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,640 center, right. So there's also that world, 793 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,560 right Logan were like they will be pro crypto. 794 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,160 You can be pro crypto and a Democrat speaking. 795 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,520 Yes, right. I think, I think, and it's 796 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,840 totally fine to be that as well. So there's also that, right? 797 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,480 But anyways, it looks like JD Vance is gaining popularity. 798 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560 I mean, how's our favorite Bitcoin beta doing, Tyler? 799 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,960 What's what's back in on that? Yesterday, man, the clip had me 800 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,920 dying laughing. Man, you guys got me good on 801 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,280 that one with The funny thing, some people watch the title and 802 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,520 don't look at the clip and they're like, Oh my God, I can't 803 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,080 believe Faroque saying that. I'm like brother, brother, but 804 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,720 I'm here praying for this downfall of this coin. 805 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920 Not because I wanted to go to 0 because I want to buy some. 806 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,160 So I'm here doing some voodoo and stuff on a GD Vance, you 807 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,040 know, doll, just so I can get like a $20 million entry. 808 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,920 But Tyler looking good. Yeah, hard to buy anything on 809 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,480 blood Moon Thursday until we we see the the blood, but it is 810 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:41,200 holding up well 40 million it touched 50 yesterday. 811 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000 Now we're basically even from where we're at on the day. 812 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,960 I I feel like my gut rate is it does go lower before higher, but 813 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:54,360 I I still share all the feelings that I expressed on yesterday's 814 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,760 show. We actually had kind of a lot of 815 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,240 meme news yesterday. So Coinbase was the biggest 816 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:06,840 headline delisting flow Giga and what was the other? 817 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,760 Turbo. Turbo correct just in New York 818 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,320 and I I saw some rumors that perhaps this is tied to a 819 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,720 specific lawsuit that is playing out in the state right now. 820 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,800 But Binance also started delisting some meme coins seems. 821 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,440 Like performance matters. That was just from. 822 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,880 That was just from Binance Alpha, not like. 823 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,640 But performance does matter though, because these coins, 824 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,320 usually when they get listed, it's based on volume that they 825 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,720 will make. And if they don't make enough 826 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:37,640 volume, there is they they get delisted. 827 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,920 Like I think people don't know that. 828 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,680 But that's also one of the like, that's also one of the rules, 829 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,560 right? Sure. 830 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,520 Makes sense and it's like turbo like what? 831 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,360 What? What retail Coinbase user is 832 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880 going to buy turbo like? You guys know one person that 833 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,160 owns Turbo? Probably not, not I. 834 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,240 And I did like I owned it back in the day. 835 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,760 That traded it quickly when when it first came out. 836 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,560 Probably no more in the in the giga. 837 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,000 My God, look at that. I don't want to do giga because 838 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,600 so many charts look. Like, no, I we're not dunking on 839 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,000 any charts, just giga and let's look at turbo and slow key, 840 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,200 right? Like it's look at all three of 841 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680 them. But oh wait, that's the wormhole 842 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,560 version. Fuck. 843 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,160 I wrote an article when Giga got the Coinbase announcement, the 844 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,440 listing road map announcement and it it did the typical thing. 845 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,360 It jumped to like 700 million and it's Oh my gosh, it's, I 846 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,600 feel bad looking at it now. And Turbos 150 actually 847 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,000 surprises me. That's like. 848 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,600 I mean Giga and Turbo holding the same line. 849 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,680 Not really but one 14150 both from billion dollar highs. 850 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,280 That's insane man wow. On the other announcements 851 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:52,960 though, flip side Robin Hood US listing Pangu, Popcat and peanut 852 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,960 the peace. Same with peanut. 853 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,120 I don't know single peanut holder, but let's go look at 854 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:58,920 all. Three of them, yeah. 855 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,160 I mean, a lot of us traded it, right? 856 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,760 I mean, peanut was an incredible trade. 857 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,280 I I I got out of it before the massive candle up and then it 858 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,720 became an incredible short. Wow, look at that. 859 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,240 That went to 2 billion dollars. Guys. 860 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640 Let's look at Pengu. Most frothy price action of the 861 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,960 cycle. Yeah, it was what's Pengu at out 862 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,680 of all them, at least Pengu has like a baggage, right that comes 863 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,280 with it like the Penguin community abstract etcetera. 864 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,280 So I think this is bullish for Luca like long term. 865 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,360 I mean, this guy managed to get Penguin listed on Coinbase 866 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,160 Finance in Robin Hood US. So when things pick up, his 867 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,680 thesis is the project. Penguin is the most used gift. 868 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,280 People know the brand. You buy it at Walmart. 869 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,880 When people enter, they go, oh, I recognize this thing, so I buy 870 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,880 it. It's a good thesis. 871 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,760 I like it. Yeah. 872 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,080 I think it's looking like it's starting to put a bottom in. 873 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,880 They just announced the partnership with Shopify the 874 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,000 team is going to keep. I saw that. 875 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,160 Right into main. That was a big news. 876 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,200 I think it starts to get very attractive here. 877 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,960 Yeah, that was some big news. So yeah, listed on Robin Hood. 878 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,840 Love that. Love that Robin Hood keeps 879 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,240 pushing forward, right? Actually, Vlad was at the thingy 880 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:20,880 right at the summit. So they definitely keep pushing. 881 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,560 The other meme news is a little bit, it's a little bit more on 882 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520 the AI side. We, we got to talk about this. 883 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520 I'm trying to pull up the story here. 884 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,320 Bancobot ends Grok's unintentional token creation 885 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,720 spree by Discipline interactions on X. 886 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,240 What a wild headline. I'm I'm sending you the story 887 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,440 here in case you want to pull it up, but basically the devs 888 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,600 behind Beckerbot recalibrated it to stop responding to Grok 889 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,400 specifically. This came after Grok created 17 890 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,400 different tokens. That is fucking insane. 891 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,480 It's not Grok's fault though. It's it's the silly D Jens 892 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,600 pestering Grok telling him to launch tokens him her it. 893 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,360 There's a lot of time back here, Logan. 894 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,600 This is so crypto, right? Like makes a token, makes some 895 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,640 money and makes 16 more. I mean, Logan, what do you make 896 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,120 of that? Yeah, I I actually hat tip the 897 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,400 devs here. This is one of the things where 898 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,000 like it's just enough is enough, you know, like you do have to be 899 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:40,040 able to find some ground like that Grok and you know, just, I 900 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,240 don't know any other influencers who are like relentlessly 901 00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:46,880 launching tokens in this way. There is some level of consumer 902 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,800 protection that's kind of like necessary. 903 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,000 And that's, this is one of I guess those low lift ways. 904 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,360 I don't know, I, I don't think a lot of people were buying like 905 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,160 the 15th Grok token, but I'm, I'm totally fine with this. 906 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,680 I don't have a good strong opinion that, you know, 907 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,400 decentralization. Like they got to let grok keep 908 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,720 launching tokens like whatever, I don't care. 909 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:14,160 Like Grok can't launch anymore. And this is this has big 910 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,000 potential implications, right 'cause like this is grok. 911 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,640 So like if this gets up to the ex AI team and maybe even Elon 912 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,880 and they don't like this, right? Like like that could have some 913 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,040 serious impacts. So like, this does feel like one 914 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,680 of those situations to, you know, tread carefully. 915 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,120 Have you guys noticed something about Elon? 916 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,520 He has had absolutely 0 takes on the crypto stuff in the 917 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,680 administration. That's something I've noticed. 918 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,360 I I, I keep forgetting to talk about this on the show. 919 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120 Have you guys noticed that he hasn't had a single take or 920 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,760 retweet or quote, tweet or comment on the matter? 921 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,560 Not once. He's staying out of it. 922 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,640 I think he did share some he has shared some thoughts on like 923 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,120 Rogan. So like when he does his. 924 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,360 Longer. Yeah, no, but that was meme core 925 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,200 only, right? The casino compared to the 926 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,000 casino. Yeah, he hasn't really been 927 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,960 commenting on on more of the the 2025 era progress or topics. 928 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,880 Maybe he's just staying more siloed. 929 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,480 Yeah. Have you noticed that like he's 930 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,280 like not really talking about? Crypto. 931 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,400 Well, he tweets about DOGE all the time. 932 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,520 Yeah, but it's like it's coded a little bit. 933 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,440 It's coded, but it's like, does he speak to it now from like the 934 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,360 coin perspective or from fact that he likes to doge like he? 935 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,800 No, no, I know I'm I'm extrapolated. 936 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,440 I mean, it is technically coded, you're right. 937 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,840 Like it is definitely coded, right? 938 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,720 But. But I think that's a good thing. 939 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,800 Honestly, I think it's mad at it. 940 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,680 Yeah, I, I know we want these these folks to be like pumping 941 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,280 our bags, but I'm totally fine with Elon not drawing attention 942 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,600 to himself by tweeting freaking tickers or whatever. 943 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,680 No, but like not even the tickers like his takes on like 944 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,800 cryptocurrency or stable, like even like from that he's the 945 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,120 biggest technologist in the world, right? 946 00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,640 He's the richest man on the planet. 947 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,080 I mean more from a not from a pump or bags perspective, but 948 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,800 more from like even a tech perspective. 949 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,160 Like you don't really see you see him talk about AIA lot, 950 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,240 right, because that's his focus. It's interesting. 951 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,440 I don't know, I I'm curious, like I want to get him on an 952 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,640 interview. Just ask him his thoughts like, 953 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,920 Hey, what do you think about stable coins? 954 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,440 What do you think about blockchain tech? 955 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,080 Like we don't really see him talk about this. 956 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,600 So that makes me think like, does he even like, does he even 957 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,920 think it's or, but I've heard that they're using blockchain 958 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,160 technology or planning using blockchain really at Doge, 959 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,840 right? Yeah, Big Ball. 960 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,760 That's Big Ball's job to use blockchain technology. 961 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:37,800 Literally, Big Ball's job is is to use boxing technology to help 962 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,560 fix government spending. I think my my read as Elon is 963 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,480 pro Bitcoin and pro blockchain and I don't know that he really 964 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,480 messes with most of the rest of it. 965 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,440 I guess it's kind of my I got tech. 966 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,920 I mean, actions speak like the words Tesla owns a ton of 967 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,760 Bitcoin, right? Right. 968 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,880 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. 969 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,240 Yeah, you're right, You're right. 970 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,240 Yes, you're right. It's like almost 12,000 Bitcoin. 971 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,920 We saw that yesterday. So we saw anyways, the code 972 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,560 today is wallet. So we're getting guys a few more 973 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,720 minutes. We're not going to go into it 974 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,280 right now, but raffle bot dot XYZ every Monday. 975 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520 No, no, no, no, I lied Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, So 976 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,080 every day but Monday we give away either crypto punk or 977 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,320 wrecked guy. And you have quite a high chance 978 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,280 to win a crypto punk because it's like 4 1/2 percent chances 979 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,600 of winning a crypto punk right now. 980 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,240 Get a model cheap, right? And so the code is wallet 981 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,880 WALLET. Should we talk about bugs a 982 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,200 little bit real? Quick, I just want to quickly 983 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,240 hit this other meme coin that launched everything is computer. 984 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,000 It's tied to Trump's comments when he got in the Tesla 985 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,520 yesterday. That's a meme coin. 986 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,600 I saw the thing everywhere. So I'm, I'm a little torn on 987 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,240 this one. It's like, I believe that phrase 988 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,680 is going to become the medic and it's probably going to have some 989 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,320 lasting power, but it's not really a meme. 990 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,440 It's a phrase. And so like now I'm actually, I 991 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,760 don't, I don't know if that token itself is going to have. 992 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,520 Yeah. I don't like sentences. 993 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,480 I don't think they work personally speaking. 994 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,520 They work for a little bit of time. 995 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,160 But remember like that tap tap to 4K shit that lasted a whole 996 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,960 like 12 hours. Lock in is the most successful 997 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,360 term thus far. Went to 100 and something 998 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,360 million. It was. 5 I mean 2 days ago was 999 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600 it 5? It's tough to bet on ones like 1000 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,320 this style that I, I agree. I think besides like a a longer 1001 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,440 mimetic shelf life. But I think we all understand 1002 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,760 that there is like there is a shelf life, you know, and it's 1003 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,520 just, it's tough to, it's tough to bet on when that ends, you 1004 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,800 know what I mean? The bold case, I guess like 1005 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,200 Andreessen made it his BI, I put it in his back. 1006 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,760 So like that. Yeah, you can. 1007 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,480 You can impact the markets, but yeah, I don't love the ticker. 1008 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,520 The ticker's the IC. Yeah, these ones are really 1009 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,440 tough, but they are the ones where like you could you could 1010 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,480 buy when everybody stops paying attention to it and then you get 1011 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,440 that one Andreessen tweet, the one Elon and. 1012 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,600 Then you sell an. Example of this, like I don't 1013 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,760 know if you guys saw the OR if you've talked about it on the 1014 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,760 show perhaps and I wasn't watching the Fortnite dill bits 1015 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,200 thing. So Fortnite's like latest 1016 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,080 season. I'm not a Fortnite player, so I 1017 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,040 might be really botching how this plays in, but they've been 1018 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,080 making fun of cryptocurrency I guess in the most recent season. 1019 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,800 I don't exactly know what that means, but they basically in the 1020 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,400 game I think created like there's a fake token in the game 1021 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,880 called dil bits. People made of course a real 1022 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:36,760 token on Solana called dil bits and you know, initially surged, 1023 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,360 of course, right away not to anything super high like maybe 5 1024 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,160 million or something like that. And then attention faded for 1025 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,080 like forever. And then I think Fortnite posted 1026 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,760 it again or something like that and it went back to 5 million. 1027 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,200 Like that's what this everything is computer token or there are 1028 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,400 lots of tokens like this. They have that exact same 1029 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,480 playbook, right? They're like initial surge on 1030 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,680 the first few headlines, everything dies, but you know 1031 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,800 the headlines coming back in some way or another from someone 1032 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,880 and then you can sell into that next pump. 1033 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,600 Does that make sense like that? I feel like that's a pretty 1034 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,720 repeatable playbook for these higher narrative, like higher 1035 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,040 headline type plays. Not financial advice. 1036 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,120 It is. Sorry Logan, we're distracted 1037 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,640 because breaking more breaking news, Abstract token has gone 1038 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,760 live for pre market trading. On is this. 1039 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,800 I want to make sure this is real because last time a metamask 1040 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,840 thing happened it was fake, but Gates is legitimate as fuck. 1041 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,280 Yeah, I guess so. So caveat, I have not had a 1042 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,400 chance to to deep to Fact Check this or do any due diligence. 1043 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,360 But it's gate. It's coming from the gate 1044 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,880 account, yeah. Gates is legit but I just want 1045 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,080 people to be careful. Abstract ABS pre market OTC 1046 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,760 trading is now live. I'm going to text Luca quickly. 1047 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,480 Check that announcement thing. I wonder if it's similar in 1048 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,400 nature to what that that other platform did with the X1. 1049 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,840 You know, where they're just kind of letting you bet. 1050 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,040 On it, I'm meaning hold on. I just saw the timeline. 1051 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,840 Hold on. Cairo is like spamming emojis 1052 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,520 here. Carol, what up? 1053 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,000 Hold on. I think he's also a Myriad user. 1054 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,280 Carol, where is it? You aping the markets the other 1055 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:24,520 day on Myriad? Yo, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. 1056 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,960 Is this you sent us this? Is this legit? 1057 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,200 I don't want to miscommunicate here. 1058 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,200 So So what I know by the way, we met in in Paris and and you 1059 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,600 reposted my my clip with you and Luca. 1060 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,400 A big, big thank you for that. Again, that blew up crazy Mark. 1061 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,120 You got a lot. You went viral. 1062 00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:49,120 It was crazy, man. I was in the top 10 on Kaido for 1063 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,440 Pengu and I didn't even like take Kaido serious was insane. 1064 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,600 But yeah, I actually, I actually on the ABS token. 1065 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,120 I mean, it has been speculation for a while, right? 1066 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,560 We all thought when when abstract mainnet was launching 1067 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,080 that like the ABS token would be the main gas token and then it 1068 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,200 was ETH. And what I know I cannot tell 1069 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,640 you like from where, but I know some people at other exchanges 1070 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,080 that's put it that way that are that have been talking about an 1071 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:24,480 ABS token listing gate. This is confirmation we're going 1072 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,840 to see an ABS token hold. On it's fake. 1073 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,200 I just confirmed with Luca. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you. 1074 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,600 I just, I just talked to Luca. I said is this real? 1075 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,680 It was brought up on my show and want to make sure. 1076 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,400 And he said, no, sorry, how? Does Gates? 1077 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,600 How does Gates announce something like this this? 1078 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,360 Is bad, so I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Cairo, but this is 1079 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,000 not real. Crazy. 1080 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,560 OK, I'm I'm still I'm still I'm still smoking. 1081 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,200 Some hope you that you're going to see ABS at one point. 1082 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,160 You will probably you. I am most definitely sure you 1083 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:10,160 will see an ABS token Cairo can. I just ask why, so I understand 1084 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,720 that I understand what Lucas said. 1085 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,080 Why can't GATE open up their own independent market for abstract 1086 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,560 points? This is true. 1087 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,640 It's like Wales market, it's no different open. 1088 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,760 Up a prediction market? Open up a prediction market on 1089 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,560 on Myriad. Is there going to be an ABS 1090 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,200 token? Yes or no? 1091 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,760 This is a great fucking market. Actually, Sam's, I know you're 1092 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,880 listening. We should probably open 1093 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,080 something about abstract like that. 1094 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,040 That is a great call. We're going to we're going to 1095 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:42,280 open this up. $0.65 per point stage heroes grinders are happy 1096 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,320 with that. Think about the myriad guys 1097 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,040 betting on USDC multiplying their points and their XP right 1098 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,160 now. You guys got to be fucking 1099 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,160 cooking on this. Did you know if you bet Miriad 1100 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,520 on USCC, you get 100 X multiplier on points but also XP 1101 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,640 for abstract? So. 1102 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,360 But anyways, yeah Carol, sorry brother, but I do remember you 1103 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,280 and I know you're a top Penguin, so appreciate you supporting us 1104 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,960 and bringing this to our attention. 1105 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,280 We will be seeing this. Fuck I so this could. 1106 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,000 This doesn't delegitimize what Gate is doing. 1107 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,960 Like Logan's saying, this could be the points. 1108 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,040 It is the point. So if you go back to that 1109 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,160 announcement for Oak, the second link in their tweet, it's like 1110 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,800 very clearly outlined, I think in bullet .1. 1111 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,520 OK, so they didn't make a wrong announcement. 1112 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,880 They they made it clear that's what you're. 1113 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,080 Saying, well, I, I mean, maybe you have to pull it back up. 1114 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,720 I can't access it because I don't have AVPN on right now or 1115 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,480 whatever. I would turn my norm I was going 1116 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,560 to fuck up the stream unless I'm. 1117 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,640 Clicking the wrong thing, but I'm pretty sure when you pull 1118 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,480 that up it. Said yeah, it's funny how much 1119 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:55,520 attention, I don't know. Everyone is so confused right 1120 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,760 now. What the heck is going on? 1121 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,960 Yeah, that's I, I guess we'll, we'll keep it for tomorrow 1122 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,200 anyways. We're on time, but we'll keep it 1123 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,240 for tomorrow. Yeah, I think we keep it for 1124 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,640 tomorrow anyways. There is so much going on this 1125 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,040 business heating Intel, Coinbase Ventures, the lead base 1126 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,840 ecosystem group on Echo platform. 1127 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,320 Like there's so much happening, dude. 1128 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,720 What on echo? Coinbase ventures delete base 1129 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,200 ecosystem ventures or some shit like that. 1130 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,480 Oh. Interesting. 1131 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,640 Yep, like. I thought we were going to have 1132 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,680 a lighter show of topics and then we didn't even get through 1133 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,440 them. Hyper liquid to introduce the 1134 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,360 20% margin ratio requirements starting March 15th. 1135 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,720 Dude, it's nonstop. I don't know, dude, that's good. 1136 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,000 We're. Busy. 1137 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,240 We're like been busy.