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Yo-yo, yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning, Good morning. 
GMG. 

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Thursday, February 6th, more 
like January 37th, 37th. 

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January 37th, 2025. 
Look at that. 

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Another beautiful day to have a 
beautiful day. 

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I got my coast in the house. 
Tyler Mandel, good morning. 

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Good morning. 
Good morning, good morning. 

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How you doing today? 
GM, can you hear me? 

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Yeah, we actually hear you very 
well today. 

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Fantastic. 
Because you're speaking into the

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microphone. 
Love that. 

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Look at that. 
We're going to get you on these 

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SM7BS, bro. 
I've been trying, but I know 

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Portugal's tough to to procure 
some new equipment, you know, so

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maybe I have to just bring it to
in France or something. 

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But you know, I got it. 
One of these. 

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They're so smooth. 
I'll bring you one of these too.

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I go on for you too, Tyler. 
You know, rug radio box at the 

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bottom. 
You know, I got him here, got 

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him here. 
I got him here on my right. 

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Tyler, how you doing today? 
I'm good bullish news is pours 

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in. 
We we got a big launch today, 

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but it doesn't matter. 
Coins are just slowly bleeding 

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out every day. 
At least maybe this is the 

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opposite of the last few weeks, 
where Thursday was the local 

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high, then we were down. 
Maybe, Maybe. 

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Does that mean we pump Mondays 
Now? 

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I'm not mad at that. 
I think the weekends off, you 

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know, could be, it could be 
pretty nice, I'm not going to 

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lie. 
Anyways, today on the show today

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as usual. 
So market reports. 

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Let's start with this market. 
I don't even know what they're 

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saying with this market as it's 
chopping, but we'll we'll leave 

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Manda to it. 
We have Tyler's top 1000 big 

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launch date, Bear chain. 
Bear chain with main that this 

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morning, very successful launch.
It appears that it opened above 

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what it went up with 1213 
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Could be more, could be last 
right now, I have no idea. 

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I have to look, but it's very 
successful launch on that front.

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We have a guest coming on today,
Bread guy. 

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Bread guy's coming to talk about
mega ETH. 

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Oh yeah, you saw the news couple
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They're all over the place, so 
really curious to ask him a few 

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questions here about what's 
going on with that and and how 

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to participate in how our 
listeners can best, you know, 

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make the most out of mega E 
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We definitely to get back and 
getting all this guess on. 

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And then last but not least, of 
course, a robot loot box spin. 

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Let's see who wins some money 
today. 

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Hopefully you guys gonna win 
something. 

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I'm gonna I'm gonna play around 
with the box. 

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OK, during the show, try and see
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Bando, what's going on market? 
Who is the man's back of Daddy 

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of the man. 
Can you dig it? 

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Jam everyone. 
So let me just turn that down a 

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little bit, a little bit too 
loud, I would say. 

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Yeah, not a not a great day if 
you're in anything but Bitcoin, 

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really Bitcoin is, it's kind of 
bounced for us, kind of 

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unchanged from where we did the 
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Unchanged, really. 
Yeah, Bitcoin dominance, though,

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is up to 62% basically. 
Now, it's not a pretty fucking 

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chart, that one. 
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If you're bullish on altcoins, 
this has been like a point of 

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resistance, it seems. 
So maybe, maybe, maybe that 

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turns around. 
But but that is the number one 

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trend in crypto right now is the
big condominance is going 

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higher. 
The majors are holding up OK, 

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even in that world. 
Like it's not like Ethan Solano 

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are down a lot. 
They're just kind of down a 

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little bit maybe, but it 
definitely feels like Bitcoin is

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taking the majority of the 
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And then I think this is Billish
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now, like again, another state 
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Mexico, I think pass some sort 
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to have a Bitcoin reserve bill. 
But up for for vote now the 

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check the check central bank 
policy passed and now they're 

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now moving towards putting some 
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And this is also a world where 
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as well. 
Just on the on the back of, you 

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know, worries about trade wars, 
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general. 
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very well and versus versus the 
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of a bloodbath. 
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than just holding out well like 
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I show you your tweet this 
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$45 billion of meme coin market 
cap has been erased in three 

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weeks, which is kind of wild. 
The cookie. 

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What? 
Yeah, Cookie dot Fun has has AI 

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memes obviously, or AI agents 
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right now. 
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the losses are. 
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AI16Z is actually hitting like 
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the weekend. 
Same for Ark Griffane AXPT, like

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we're basically at or through 
the lows that we saw on the big 

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liquidation wig, so. 
Griffin's 140. 

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If you decided to buy AI on the 
dip, yeah like far coin down to 

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450 virtuals is holding on to 
$1.00 but feels like it go below

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that any moment. 
Zero bro 45. 

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Yeah. 
Like we are, we are breaking out

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to new lows across the board. 
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Wow. 
Yeah, yeah, pretty, pretty wild,

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I would say because it felt for 
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that was going to be the 
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or amongst the strongest sectors
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It now really doesn't feel good.
And it's it's not just the 

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utility coins as well, like far 
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has really been the the coin of 
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I mean that was at 2.7 billion, 
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that's. 
Yeah, it's wild. 

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That is, that is wild. 
That's a goat like candle right 

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there. 
What a dip, jeez. 

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Wow, 80% from tops. 
That's not even the top, right. 

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The top was actually. 
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But I mean it was 7. 
It's, it's flashed there. 

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But yeah, we could count it from
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Yeah, see a pretty wild move 
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Meme coins are are also lower, 
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decimated kind of before that 
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I think AI held up and is now 
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price move lower that we maybe 
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ago. 
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example, it's kind of under has 
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or gained a good digit even 
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luck. 
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market, there's not a lot out 
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Even the revenue producing 
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Hype is back down, 24 JLPS 
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slightly different sort of 
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been relatively strong. 
It's the story of today is 

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literally the the gaming meme 
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So funny I was looking. 
Tron is probably the the 

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strongest L1 at the moment, 
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Obviously that's making a ton of
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about that several times. 
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. 

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Look, that's carnage. 
Carnage, carnage. 

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Carnage and the odds Carnage. 
Yeah, it's definitely weak, 

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definitely weak out there. 
I think a lot of people are just

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like, well, if this is going to 
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want to own anything but Bitcoin
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See this thing? 
Where is it? 

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I continue to like the revenue 
reducing. 

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Oh, see this, it's, it's, it's, 
that's just the general sense of

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stuff. 
So Bitcoin dominance, Bitcoin 

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dominance just doesn't look like
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No, it's. 
Maybe a point of resistance 

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here? 
The like to get above 62 but. 

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But it's what's this wig here? 
This is so nuts. 

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Look at this this. 
Wig. 

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That was when Eve went down to 
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It was the flash. 
OK, wow, what a let's look at 

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total 3 chart real quick, which 
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If there's a noise every it's a 
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excluding Ethereum and and 
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It's the altcoin chart. 
And Solana, right? 

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Close and so right or is it OK? 
And so, yeah. 

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Yeah, that's total three. 
That's total 2. 

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Yeah, total three. 
Yeah, total three. 

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Yeah, sorry. 
And Solana. 

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So this is what it's at. 
Wow. 

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Yeah. 
And that doesn't look terrible 

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to me. 
Doesn't look terrible. 

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It could look bottomed out to 
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you know what I mean? 
Like, it's like a dangerous 

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thing to do here. 
We just look at all charts and 

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are bullish though guys, that's 
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And I I can we pull up. 
Some bullish charts please for. 

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What? 
What? 

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What bull? 
I mean, yeah, I could. 

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Pull you a Bob chart. 
Here I'll pull you a bullish 

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chart. 
Yeah, Bitcoin looks OK. 

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I'll pull you the most bullish 
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So this is the range that you 
know, this is the infamous range

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that we're in. 
We're literally halfway. 

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We're in mid range right now. 
This is a bullish chart. 

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You want to buy the bullish 
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Pull up the fucking bear chain 
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Bring up Bitcoin dominance. 
That's a bullish. 

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Chart You want a bullish chart? 
Here's your bullish chart. 

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JLP. 
Is JLP bullish chart? 

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Always let. 
Me see? 

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Oh it's a 44% APY D. 
Jens are gambling dude. 

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I love it. 
You guys should have used perfs 

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on J on Jupiter. 
JLP is on is on trading view by 

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the way, if you want to find it.
Oh, it's true. 

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Why do I always go there to 
look? 

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I don't know, I guess because on
the main website here it is a 

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bullish. 
I mean, yeah, this is a bullish 

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chart. 
Here you go, bullish chart this 

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SPXSNP chart. 
That's good. 

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That's good. 
What else? 

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What? 
What bullish chart do you want 

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me to pull up? 
I'm I'm. 

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If you want. 
Yeah, I'm sticking to BTCD. 

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It's just for the look of it. 
So we had Bob Lucas share. 

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Give us some hope in this. 
This morning he said that he 

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thinks. 
Mike Quant. 

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Quant will continue to range 
chop down, probably see like 88 

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over the next three weeks before
resuming a leg up. 

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We're getting there, dude. 
So we'll, we'll see. 

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He, he lays out a couple paths. 
Basically one will reach up, up 

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and one will reach up, down. 
I feel like consensus is 

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definitely that we chop down. 
Consensus is definitely that we 

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worked out. 
Everybody wants that. 

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Apparently everyone in the 
timeline just wants Max Payne. 

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One my meme coin tweet. 
You'll never find a group of 

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people who want to see an entire
sector go to 0 like like you do 

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in crypt. 
What so which tweet is this? 

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Because I, I got your 
notifications on dude, but you, 

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you do tweet a lot. 
So I'm trying to find. 

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There it is. 
The next one, yeah. 

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D $44 billion. 
That's why people are not happy 

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on the timeline. 
People are like, oh, bitcoin's 

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up like why is nobody happy 
dude? 

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This is why, like, everybody's 
in this. 

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Half of my comments are send it 
all to 0. 

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It's like, OK, like you want 
Dogecoin to go to 0 like you 

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want Pepe to go to 0 like. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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I I, I could agree with that. 
Fuck this guy does make a good 

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point though. 
I. 

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Didn't see any upnl screenshots 
for the most part. 

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Dude just go ask watch King if 
he had his best month or not and

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he'll tell you he had his best 
month in business. 

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Watching UPNL, that's people who
sold and then took their cash 

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into watches well. 
What does that mean? 

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Right, I don't. 
Isn't that a top say that you 

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think? 
Yeah, anyways, clearly it's it's

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down a lot from from top. 
Pull us back to Bitcoin. 

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We got some breaking news. 
Brooke. 

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I sent you a couple links. 
Did we? 

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So this morning we saw that 
Trump media had filed trademarks

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for these for these ETS, Bitcoin
Plus Made in America. 

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But now there's more 
information, it looks like they 

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are actually plan like have 
plans to launch these, which I 

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think is the logical conclusion,
but we have that next detail. 

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So a made in America ETF, 
Bitcoin plus and then US energy 

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independence. 
I don't what is an SMA? 

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I'm not actually familiar with 
that. 

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Oh, separately managed accounts.
Yeah, I'm not, I don't know what

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that is. 
I'm curious what Bitcoin plus 

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is. 
Is it Bitcoin plus ETH? 

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I think it's Biz Plus Plus Made 
in America and I don't know if. 

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Interesting. 
Isn't it Bitcoin Trump to 

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actually get into the ETF game? 
Yeah, bro, did you see here 

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Tyler summed it up this morning.
Hold on, let me get it to you. 

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But it's it was an interesting 
announcement that came out this 

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morning again on the bullish 
headlines, right? 

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But it's basically this. 
The registered trademarks 

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compromised comprised with the 
following Truth .5 Made in 

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America ETF, Truth .5 Made in 
America SMA, Truth .5 US Energy 

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Independence ETF, Truth .5 US 
Energy Independence SMA, Truth 

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.5 Bitcoin Plus ETF, and Truth 
.5 Bitcoin plus SMA. 

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That was all breaking news this 
morning. 

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So looks like Donald Trump's 
launching meme coins. 

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I'm sorry ETF, I have meme coins
in my head. 

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But he did that too, so. 
And he did that. 

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Sorry, he already did that. 
That part I. 

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Know it's the big one like if 
you look at coin market cap 

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they're made in USA sector as 
XRP Seoul USDC doge. 

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USD is going to $5. 
I think sweet Avax interesting 

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they don't have Trump on here. 
If Doge is on there, I think 

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Trump's going to be in. 
There, can we bring up cookie 

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dough fun? 
No. 

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Trump's here. 
Trump's here, Trump's here. 34 

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on Made in America. 
I don't want to bring up cookie 

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dot phone. 
Yes. 

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Like why do we have to do that? 
I want to have a look at like 

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what we actually think about 
this sector right now. 

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No, it's good. 
We were covering it a lot. 

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We should talk about it. 
I mean it all went. 

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I just want to put it, put it 
out there. 

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It all went downhill when mother
fuckers started calling it D5. 

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Yeah. 
That was the absolute 

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generational top of AI coins 
when you all started using the 

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word default. 
Look at the seven day on some of

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these man like these are you 
couldn't like you couldn't get 

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some of these coins fast enough 
about a month ago. 

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Wow. 
It's a lot like, I'll admit, 

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like I I called my thought was 
the the capitulation event on 

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Saturday. 
It looked, it looked like 

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capitulation. 
Saturday, Tyler. 

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Now they're all lower, yeah. 
Extended the The market will not

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rebound until Bernie's back from
Mr. Cruz. 

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I think there. 
Wasn't 60% in a week? 

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Pardon me having. 
Who It's like 50 to 60% in a 

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week on top of that kind of 
happening the week before. 

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I mean like the bully, the bully
token peaked at 250 million or 

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something. 
It's at 8. 

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Like we're not talking about 80 
or 90% like we're we're talking 

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about like. 90 it's at 6 now 
actually. 

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Wow. 
And they've got that's supposed 

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to roll out. 
I think they they missed their 

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deadline on it. 
Wow, I mean this is the saddest 

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chart looking indexer you've 
ever built. 

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Even the people who thought that
there was a somewhat popular 

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take that people called a top 
and said all the vapor Ware 

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stuff is going to go down to 0 
and then we're going to see the 

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true projects emerge. 
But even that's wrong because 

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like nothing is emerging. 
Like everything is just 

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decimated at this. 
Point How wild is it that Toshi 

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is now the third biggest AI 
coin? 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it's not an AI coin, I 

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know. 
But how wild is that? 

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Where's Toshi at? 
Toshi's at 342 million. 

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Wow. 
It's virtual. 

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This isn't current market cap, 
right? 

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So it's virtual FARC coin at 
4:40, then Toshi, then Fraser, 

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which is that weird coin that 
like no one really knows. 

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No, no, not a single person owns
that coin. 

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Wow. 
I'm not giving up it it feel, 

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but I will say like it's never 
felt more over than it is real. 

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Like it feels like this is like 
actually going to 0. 

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That's my feeling. 
Yeah. 

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It's like this sector is over if
I'm being like objective like 

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that is what it feels like. 
I have not cut bait. 

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I still have MY16Z position, I 
have my arc position. 

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Both are down. 
Wow. 

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Parkour is separate. 
I don't really, although it's in

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here. 
I I think it is its own thing. 

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Well. 
It's hard to see like what is 

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the next catalyst, but it's 
always hard to see that at the 

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bottom. 
You need proper capital 

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injection like this. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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All right. 
Well, just hang tight, you know?

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Maybe Trump will. 
Maybe Trump will launch a Made 

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in America AI. 
We need it. 

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It's our whole way out. 
Donald Trump, if you listen to 

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this show, this just doesn't. 
This just doesn't. 

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Remind me of the last, even the 
top of the last cycle, right? 

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Like these things bleed out over
a much longer time period than 

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than what they just did, right? 
Like that's a wild move. 

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That is a wild move. 
It again, I think just talk 

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speaks to Solana and the fact 
that most of these coins to 1% 

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liquidity pools aren't listed on
exchanges. 

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So like when people want to exit
and the one exit varies from 

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coins at the same it's. 
Tough. 

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It's just a. 
It's just a BLOB off I. 

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Mean. 
There's a reason why point like.

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We spoke about AI16Z earlier 
this week. 

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It's like, oh, you know, 
strength to strength on the tech

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side. 
I know obviously there's been 

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some flood around shore, but 
that's been fun for a while. 

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Like that's not new. 
Yeah. 

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And and then and and it's gone 
another 2030% lower than that. 

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Yeah, this is just all. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, the meme's gone, you 
know, nobody's hosting talk 

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about AI anymore. 
But but The thing is like AI is 

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not going away. 
AI is not going away. 

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But then if you're talking about
utility, like none of these 

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things actually do anything. 
They do it's. 

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Like what? 
Like. 

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You guys still don't use Griffin
or ARC protocols or products? 

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Because they're in the early 
stages. 

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As long as you 2 are not using 
these products, I'm going to 

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keep saying that the utility is 
nowhere. 

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That's fair. 
I think AI16Z and arc are 

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basically that they're they show
that they were meant to be like 

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launch pads, which to be fair, 
like arc has has gone down the 

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route of and AI16Z is yeah, 
waiting to build this, this 

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Asian platform Griffane. 
I, I always felt like that with 

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the, with the copilot stuff in 
that it felt like that felt too 

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early for me. 
And I, I, I never really had a 

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big because like. 
Unless they're able to build 

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incredible brand strength, it 
does feel as though it's a 

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little bit early to have like 
the. 

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Same Co. 
Pilot on for crypto, but but 

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yeah, this stuff. 
It's actually nasty, dude. 

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There's no way that I'm trying 
to find a bowl case here, boys. 

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I'm I'm. 
I'm AIX PT. 

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Is it 250 now? 
That was still brilliant. 

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Yeah, I mean, we have beef with 
them now. 

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So I'll bite my tongue. 
I'll set this conversation up. 

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Virtuals. 
No What? 

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We got beef. 
Suddenly everyone cares about 

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the revenue of virtuals. 
We got beef with AIBT. 

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I'm just saying we got beef with
them. 

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He's trying to fuck with Tyler 
and see what? 

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Happens. 
That's true recently. 

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Yeah, dude, he fucked with 
Tyler. 

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It's been down only since he 
fucked with Tyler. 

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You can bite your tongue. 
I don't have to bite mine. 

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I got you. 
Well, also we, I mean, I think I

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said on the show at one point 
that or we did the AI XPT is 

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kind of like the mascot of the 
AI sector. 

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Yeah, it's true. 
It's fitting that it's down 70% 

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because the whole sector is 
down. 

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So no, this is true. 
This is a fair, this is a fair 

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take. 
You brought another one up, 

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Tyler Manager now before 
virtuals, Yeah, everyone's 

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looking fine at the that. 
The thing's making like $12.00 a

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day bro. 
Waiting for that tweet. 

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Yeah, it's funny because again, 
like what I was saying is like 

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the meme grew faster than the 
tech, the utility. 

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So it was memetic values that we
were assorting to those to those

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tokens like zero bro at 700 mil.
That was a memetic value of 0 

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bro, not the actual value of 0 
bro. 

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And now it's funny on the way 
down Mendo, you think about, oh,

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but the tech is not it's funny, 
right? 

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And that's a meme too, right? 
Like I'm here like, oh, you guys

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not using it, but who gives a 
fuck? 

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Like I never used any of the 
coins I bought. 

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I'm in more of the Titus camp 
though, like the the Tam slash 

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the the ability for these coins 
to have real utility seems way 

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higher than than most of the old
coins to me. 

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Yeah, genuinely most of the old.
Coins Anon beta tomorrow Looks 

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like Anon like. 0 Pro is more of
like, yeah, it's more of a meme 

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style coin, right? 
Like it's more of a culture, 

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let's say style coin. 
But I do think like AI16Z even 

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AISPT right? 
I know we have beef but like it 

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has options with this mind share
arc as well. 

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Those ones have really surprised
me about how weak they are. 

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Like AICCC is down the most out 
of all the and it's like it's 

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not like it's done. 
It's not like it's a shit like 

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complete shit coin in my 
opinion. 

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But I agree, I don't think it's 
a complete trick one either. 

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I like. 
I like we. 

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Said like it's two, it's 
270,000,000 like. 

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You're trying to. 
Compare that events, other 

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altcoins and you're trying to, 
it has like the most shared open

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source protocol in crypto, quite
a few different avenues with it.

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So basically try and monetize 
that and it's trading at 270. 

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You're talking about what AI 16 
here? 

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Yeah. 
It's that 2 cent, Yeah, I mean, 

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that's one where at these prices
even I'm like, wow, after you 

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what you guys said about the 
protocols and the GitHub and 

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everything like this is where 
like I can dunk on it 700 mil, 

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but 200 million I'm like wow, 
that's crazy. 1:50 I might have 

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to try to unload like. 
I I wouldn't blame you. 

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I just you know what like I even
just saw I was just browsing 

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Twitter as he was talking like I
just saw this tweet from Ponzi 

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trader. 
He's like the market has not 

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provided a reason to long any 
assets, specifically altcoins. 

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Don't try to knife catch LARP. 
Tech it's. 

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Fair. 
I I I are you guys trying on 

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knife catch? 
I don't think you are right. 

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Hey I. 
I did on Ark a handful of times.

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And you were right until you 
were wrong. 

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But I don't know why you're 
wrong. 

448
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Like I actually agree with your 
knife catch on Ark and you know 

449
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,840
what I mean? 
Like I don't even understand. 

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Like you and Ovi were like going
at it right? 

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Like, but like bit for bit. 
It's interesting, man. 

452
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,160
It's it's an interesting part of
the market and it's fair to say 

453
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,920
that almost everybody who's new 
to the space probably is down 

454
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,080
now because a lot of people got 
into the AI trade and they're 

455
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,320
probably down. 
It reminds me of what is it 

456
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,920
Remind when did people come in 
new when newcomers came into to 

457
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,800
to NFTS, at some point they were
all down. 

458
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,960
What was it? 
Q 421 or something? 

459
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,200
Was it? 
There was a period, man that 

460
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,720
remember like everybody who 
bought NFT was probably down. 

461
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,520
So we've been comparing these 
meme coins in AI to NFT. 

462
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,960
So therefore we have to compare 
them the way down to NFTS too. 

463
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,760
So that was kind of there like 
this inflection point where if 

464
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,040
you bought any of the top NFT 
collections. 

465
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,440
But board apes stayed above 100K
for a long long. 

466
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,120
Time. 
Yeah, it lasts way longer. 

467
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,760
But but. 
Even the collapse of it took 

468
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,160
ages. 
But we knew this, right? 

469
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Like meme coins don't last. 
Like we knew meme coins are not 

470
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,200
NFTS. 
Like you're talking about meme 

471
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,360
coins on Solana blockchain where
people get out in the second and

472
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:13,800
don't give a fuck about their 
back. 

473
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,640
Like we we know this, right? 
Like this is the risk of meme 

474
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,360
coins for seven FT communities, 
right? 

475
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Like at least NFT communities 
believed in something like that.

476
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,680
Murat thesis actually fits much 
better in NFTS than it does in 

477
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,760
meme coins, right? 
Because you're attached to your 

478
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,520
PFP or your identity, right? 
There is no identity behind meme

479
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,720
coins. 
Yeah, look, I'm not saying that.

480
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,000
I'm just, I'm shocked by this, 
that yeah. 

481
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:40,920
It's shocking. 80 to 90% in in 
weeks. 

482
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,240
Not in, not in, not in months. 
Yeah. 

483
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,920
All coming I I'm not seeing 
anyone flashing their shorts 

484
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,560
that they made. 
I don't think anyone's flat 

485
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,080
shorted I I think everybody 
missed the short as well. 

486
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,480
But I know we want to get to 
bread guy. 

487
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600
There's a couple of headlines. 
I know I don't need to go 

488
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,120
through my full one if you don't
want, I can just. 

489
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,360
Let's go. 
Let's go through your headlines.

490
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,240
I'll bring bread guy up still 
regardless because he's in the 

491
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,560
studio with us. 
So what up bread guy? 

492
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,080
I'll bring you up. 
But let's, let's, let's, let's 

493
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,960
do the let's, let's do the 
Tyler's topics. 

494
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:19,720
At least go through them T and 
crypto analysis Tyler T on FOMO 

495
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,360
our cause the kids. 
Can a lot of top stories. 

496
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,040
Let's start with the FDIC 
planning to revise crypto 

497
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,040
guidelines for banks, allowing 
them to conduct activities in 

498
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320
this sector without regulatory 
permission, while also revealing

499
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,520
documents showcasing and 
confirming that yes, Operation 

500
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,240
Choke point 2.0 was a very real 
thing. 

501
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,560
We saw Masari report that 
highlighted salons explosive Q4 

502
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,240
and rapid growth. 
Call it the best. 

503
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,680
Is it the best quarter of all 
time? 

504
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,240
It looked. 
Very. 

505
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,680
Paper though, will they be able 
to maintain that for Q1? 

506
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,440
Still up for debate, Sailor 
MicroStrategy rebrands to just 

507
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,720
strategy. 
They also launched that Stark 

508
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,680
STRK convertible preferred stock
on the New York Stock Exchange 

509
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040
here today. 
So couple big days for them. 

510
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,040
The SC, the SEC reassigned their
top crypto litigator to their IT

511
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,720
department. 
So that was a funny headline. 

512
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,760
That's hilarious. 
Stripe acquired a stablecoin 

513
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,880
platform Bridge Platform Bridge 
for $1.1 billion, its largest 

514
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,760
crypto acquisition to date. 
We saw BlackRock announced the 

515
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800
launch of a Bitcoin ETP in 
Europe. 

516
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,880
The CFTC is going to review 
their regulatory approach to 

517
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,520
prediction markets in coming 
weeks. 

518
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Love to see that and the 
breaking news morning Trump 

519
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,320
media filing trademarks for Made
in America ETF, Bitcoin ETF and 

520
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,120
more. 
It looks like those are indeed 

521
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,960
coming, folks. 
Bear Chain is live. 

522
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,320
They released their tokenomics 
and AirDrop checker yesterday. 

523
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,520
Mainnet has launched, it's 
trading at $10 right now, which 

524
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,920
is right around 5 billion, so 
pretty strong start. 

525
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,800
We have Ondo Finance. 
They launched the Ondo Global 

526
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,200
Markets, their new tokenization 
platform for U.S. 

527
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,160
Securities. 
So this tokenization for U.S. 

528
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,840
Securities like stocks and bonds
is absolutely coming. 

529
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,000
We'll talk about with bread here
in a minute. 

530
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,640
They announced a vote for their 
NFT distribution, either first 

531
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,240
come, first serve or random RNG.
So if you've got a horse in that

532
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,000
race, maybe go vote. 
Let's see AI, we already talked 

533
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,840
about it. 
It's down, down only parallel 

534
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,880
digit era major update. 
So if you're in the parallel 

535
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960
prime ecosystem, go check that 
out. 

536
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,640
They talked about a mobile app, 
the colony game and wave Finder.

537
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,240
They teased Q3Q4 for new game 
releases. 

538
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Prompt still expected Q1, so 
hopefully later Q1, maybe once 

539
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600
the AI has rebounded. 
Please. 

540
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,440
NFTS Let's see, Jupiter's X 
account was hacked briefly had a

541
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,080
meme ticker display. 
Dude, and it was the IT went for

542
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,480
a bit like they hosted a space 
as as well. 

543
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,960
I thought that hack was, I hate 
to say that I thought that was a

544
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,760
funny one. 
I didn't just like, drop 

545
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
something, but yeah. 
It was like smart enough. 

546
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,560
Did you really think that that 
was? 

547
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080
No, not, not one bit of me. 
I I actually saw some smart 

548
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,160
people fall for this and I was a
little surprised, especially 

549
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,560
given like where you are in the 
space. 

550
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:11,240
So I think, I think, I think it 
was quite obvious, but I'm 

551
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,080
mostly like kind of appalled by 
the lack of security on some of 

552
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,880
these big protocols. 
I love Jupiter, I'm a fan. 

553
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,880
But you know what, if you have a
certain audience and you're like

554
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000
also one of the largest 
protocols or decks or 

555
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,520
aggregators or products in all 
of crypto, Like, you know, 

556
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,640
unless this was inside job, 
which I don't think it was, but 

557
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,160
yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. 
It's pretty bad dude. 

558
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Not great. 
But. 

559
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000
That that was the round up. 
Natural selection, Natural 

560
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,560
selection, Tyler just more 
natural selection. 

561
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,640
Indeed. 
Yeah, hate to see it. 

562
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,480
I love the FDIC news. 
We've been talking about this. 

563
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,880
It's just reinforces that the 
banks are absolutely coming into

564
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,520
crypto and it seems like it's 
going to happen soon, sooner 

565
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,400
than later. 
It's happening at the speed of 

566
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,960
light right now. 
What was you want to double down

567
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,120
the headline? 
Let's go through that. 

568
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Maybe the the Perisher Market 1 
was pretty good and let's get 

569
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,440
right into the mega use stuff. 
Yeah, so the FDIC, they plan to 

570
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
revise bank guidelines for 
crypto, even to allow banks to 

571
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,640
embark on some crypto activities
without getting regulatory 

572
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,800
permission first. 
It looks like some banks have 

573
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040
already been in conversation 
with government officials. 

574
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,720
They are pushing to offer 
custody of, of crypto assets 

575
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,200
along with tokenized deposits 
that could put some checking 

576
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,160
accounts on blockchains. 
So that that is an incredibly, 

577
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360
the custody piece is still like 
the one I've been focused on 

578
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,160
just because of the massive 
capital unlock That would be, I 

579
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,040
actually hadn't even started 
wrapping my head around 

580
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,000
tokenized checking accounts on 
blockchains. 

581
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,960
So there's even more to unpack 
there, but tremendous progress. 

582
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960
And it really feels like the 
progress is accelerating. 

583
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Like maybe like, are we going to
see this in H1? 

584
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Like would you bet on H1 before 
the end of June? 

585
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,480
I don't know how fast this stuff
moves. 

586
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,440
What do you think? 
Wendo? 

587
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,560
I I really don't know. 
It's not my. 

588
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,480
Organization it, it feels like 
weirdly Defy has become one of 

589
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,240
the stronger sectors during this
sell off. 

590
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Like people are looking at it 
through it and being like, well,

591
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,440
that's where we'll might see 
more headlines over the next few

592
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,360
months. 
It's like where you're going to 

593
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,520
get all the real adoption right 
in Defy like and stuff like 

594
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200
that. 
So it's it's becoming very real 

595
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,960
again, it seems on that front, 
right, Because you have Larry 

596
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Fink talking about tokenizing 
bonds and stocks. 

597
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,840
I just, I continue to think that
these trap by companies will do 

598
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,680
it themselves like we don't, 
they don't need us to be able to

599
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,840
do this so. 
Meaning they won't use our 

600
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Korean block chains. 
Is that what you're saying? 

601
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,400
No, I just don't think they'll 
that they need us for to 

602
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080
actually do the tokenization. 
So there's some like RWA coins 

603
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,480
like Hondo and a few others. 
I don't know. 

604
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680
My my general sense is is deltas
do it themselves. 

605
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,120
OK. 
That's the RWA piece. 

606
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,880
I think the I was more just 
referring to the, the custom 

607
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000
crypto within banks. 
Yeah, which I think I, I feel 

608
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160
like that. 
I don't know if it's H1, I think

609
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,800
it'll be 2025. 
Yeah, it's, it's definitely I, I

610
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,200
think, yeah, I Yeah. 
So I'm just looking at the state

611
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,240
of the market. 
I think that I just can't, I, 

612
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,400
there's no Peace of Mind. 
But things that were nearly 

613
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720
close to the top anyways. 
I see, I see people in the 

614
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,280
common sense. 
Everybody's got, everybody's got

615
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,400
to, got to, got to, got to 
freshen up here. 

616
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,440
All right, Reboot, you know, 
it's a bull market. 

617
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880
It's normal bull market shit. 
Vaporware is getting erased off 

618
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,600
the market. 
It's probably a good thing. 

619
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,960
We absolutely love to see that. 
And we got bread guy on the 

620
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,520
show. 
Come on. 

621
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,800
And we got bread guy on the 
show. 

622
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Let's get this energy going. 
I mean, bread guy. 

623
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,280
What's up, dude? 
I think it's your first time 

624
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,120
coming on here. 
How you doing? 

625
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,120
What's up, buddies? 
Yeah, you actually guys, you 

626
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560
inspired me to go back and check
some some message timing. 

627
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520
So I see obese had a really big 
Aix BT trade, right? 

628
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,000
He crushed it, right? 
Ran it up. 

629
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,520
I didn't realize how far down it
was. 

630
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,400
I and I remember him bull 
posting it a little bit about a 

631
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040
month ago and I went back and 
after he did that, I sent him a 

632
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,520
message like, bro, sell some 
coins. 

633
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,560
You got to trim coins right now.
You have too much money on 

634
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,320
chain. 
And I'd literally I top ticked 

635
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,480
the thing that message to him on
Telegram was 4:00 AM the like 

636
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,800
pico pico pico high. 
And he like you know, he used to

637
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,000
respond. 
He said he trimmed it a little 

638
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,600
bit. 
But yeah, man, like been there. 

639
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Round tripping is part of the 
game for everyone. 

640
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,880
Where? 
Did I get tripping? 

641
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,840
Well we round tripped friends 
together as well as puffs. 

642
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,640
It's trauma bonding that's 
that's the PMF of this entire 

643
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,160
space is trauma. 
Bonding. 

644
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
With friends, yeah. 
Yeah, it's about the friends you

645
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,240
made along the way, right? 
We had. 

646
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Quite a pups bag. 
We had quite the pups roller 

647
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,520
coaster. 
I mean, I'm, I'm part of that. 

648
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,560
One the hold now. 
What's that hold now? 

649
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Should we check what's pups? 
Bag 35. 

650
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,560
Million mil. 
And 34 mil at least. 

651
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,560
That fucking dog token is 300 
million. 

652
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,160
You know like at least docked 
the moon's 300 million. 

653
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,160
Like pops holders couldn't RSI 
see $17 million I think Ruins 

654
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,120
the $2000 in volume yesterday 
total. 

655
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,840
That's what I was about to say. 
It's like, oh, like whatever the

656
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
market cap is doesn't matter 
because it takes like an hour to

657
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
move at all because like the 
volume is so low. 

658
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,320
It's just like it's down. 
The men pool's empty. 

659
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520
Like no one's using this shit. 
Bro, this is so wild, but this 

660
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,320
is this is all really good. 
Listen, Breg guy, you've been, 

661
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,920
you've been busy, it seems 
you've been busy with Mega ETH. 

662
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,120
You guys made a kind of a 
monster announcement the other 

663
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,440
day, which was really good. 
I personally like really like, I

664
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,199
really like the way you guys are
approaching things. 

665
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,239
She sent it to logs internally 
and I saw Kobe was supporting. 

666
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,520
Of course, Mega ETH was like, 
what? 

667
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,280
Like a record-breaking like 
raise on Echo or something like 

668
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,920
this? 
Like what, $10 million in what, 

669
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,880
3 minutes? 
Yeah, something like that. 

670
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000
It was in two tranches. 
So it like that kind of skews 

671
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,320
thing. 
It's like we opened it up at I 

672
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,760
think we did 6 mill that 
immediately went away and like, 

673
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,800
all right, Jack it out. 
Like if people want it, we'll 

674
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,760
we're willing to go higher. 
And then we we went for record 

675
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,320
numbers and it's smart. 
I love that. 

676
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,200
So why don't you just maybe like
give the people a little intro 

677
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,480
like like what Mega Ether is and
then Tyler let you like lead 

678
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,560
this? 
I'm like, I know we want to wear

679
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,720
the whitelist stuff, but like 
what? 

680
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,440
What Mega ether is just for the 
people who don't know? 

681
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,480
It's it's Ethereum's answer to 
Solana. 

682
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,920
It's probably the best way to do
it right without getting too 

683
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,720
nerdy, right? 
Like. 

684
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,320
Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, honestly, so like 

685
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,320
there we like we've made some 
very opinionated design 

686
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,720
decision, our design choices so 
that our specific L2, we are an 

687
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,600
L2 on top of Ethereum, but it's 
a different flavor of L2 is able

688
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,360
to unlock a higher level of 
performance than all the other L

689
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,800
twos, namely like base 
arbitrage, whatever by orders of

690
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480
magnitude, right. 
Just to give figures people are 

691
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,800
familiar with, right, you have 
200 TPS total across all of the 

692
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,320
roll ups, across every one of 
them. 

693
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,520
So if you combine arbitrum, 
bass, optimism, world change, 

694
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,280
all these things are about 200 
TPS. 

695
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,120
We're shooting for 100,000, 
right? 

696
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,080
Because of some of the design 
decisions we made. 

697
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,080
At least we see the market, 
right? 

698
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640
You see what's what Solana's 
doing, you see what hyper 

699
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Liquid's doing, right? 
Maybe people over indexed a 

700
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,080
little bit on like maximally 
super ultra slow, secure, 

701
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,840
decentralized, whatever. 
And there's a clear demand for 

702
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,720
on chain good UX that is on par 
with web two. 

703
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,840
We're pushing for that. 
So what like so what'll be on 

704
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,880
mega ETH? 
Like will it be the same things 

705
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600
that we're doing on ETH but 
it'll just be easier and faster?

706
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Like what is the vision? 
Yeah. 

707
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,200
All right. 
There's two things to SO no, 

708
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,000
first of all, like we're not 
pushing for the 55th fork of 

709
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,080
whatever. 
That's just faster. 

710
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,640
We have it one unique unlock 
that is like the responsiveness.

711
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,200
The tagline is real time, real 
time chain, blockchain, whatever

712
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,800
that is because of the design 
decision we lead into to say 

713
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,760
like, hey, we're going to like 
really lean into this. 

714
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,320
And you basically have that 
sequencer that everyone fuds, 

715
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,120
right? 
They're like, oh, we needed to 

716
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,560
centralized this thing. 
It's big, it's scary, it's 

717
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,600
whatever. 
It's not really that much 

718
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,920
different than Hyper Liquid 
having 4 validators, which 

719
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,440
everyone fucking loves. 
We just said, OK, well, if we're

720
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,560
going to do this, this sequencer
like own it, let's just make it 

721
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,320
the biggest, baddest MFR you've 
ever seen in your life, right? 

722
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,120
So now we got some chads from 
from Web 2 fuck up data centers.

723
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,800
They're here to say, all right, 
we're going to make this thing 

724
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920
awesome. 
And the thing that it unlocks is

725
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,680
the real time element of 
blockchain or real time element 

726
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,000
of what blockchains could be, 
right? 

727
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,600
So what that means is the 
responsiveness and how fast your

728
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,800
shit lands on chain, right? 
So even with Solano, you have 

729
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,720
about a four like half a second 
delay to where it like it 

730
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,760
actually ends up on chain. 
We can get that down to to 100 

731
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,680
milliseconds, right? 
Like down to like real time 

732
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,120
instant web 2 interactions, 
right? 

733
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,720
Discord Discord messages are 
about 200 milliseconds, right? 

734
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,040
Telegrams in that same range. 
All payments are like 300 

735
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,840
seconds. 
That's like when it's 

736
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,640
instantaneous to you as a human.
So that's that's the threshold 

737
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,800
that we can do because we're not
an L1 right? 

738
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,880
Because we're not decentralized.
Solana can only get down to like

739
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,160
200 and 5300 milliseconds. 
Ethereum's never going to get 

740
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,480
below 12 seconds, right? 
Monad's aiming for one second. 

741
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480
We're aiming for like making 
blocks under 10 milliseconds. 

742
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,200
It's just super fucking fast, 
frankly. 

743
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,680
So that unlocks the maps right? 
So like that means you can have 

744
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,280
applications that are really 
responsive. 

745
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,920
We're not, we're not trying to 
just again have a, the 55th fork

746
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,440
of uni swap that's just a little
faster. 

747
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,680
So we've incubated, we have it's
an accelerator of like 15 teams 

748
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,400
that we've been living with our 
Co living with like 30 days at a

749
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,720
time. 
Did it in Berlin, did it in 

750
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,640
Chiang Mai and they, they 
understood the tech and they're 

751
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160
building applications that is 
uniquely enabled by the tech. 

752
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,840
Like euphoria is a good example.
Euphoria is an application 

753
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,320
that's, that's like 
perpetrating, but it's they're, 

754
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,200
they're calling it tap trading. 
So it's like a Robin Hood style 

755
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520
spin on perp trading where 
literally as you tap, like you 

756
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,280
get the whole confetti, it's 
immediately on chain. 

757
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,320
Like it's a, it's a trade in 
real time instead of like having

758
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,560
to wait a little bit for the 
thing to land. 

759
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,160
And you have games like AW, he's
actually the founder of of on 

760
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,320
cyber. 
He's, he's building on our chain

761
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:56,480
with a bunch of again, these 
other 15 people teams and he's 

762
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,840
making a real time, like an 
engine that you can actually do 

763
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,760
on time on chain assets are real
time generated inside of his, 

764
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,280
his world, right? 
So like you can be in an 

765
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,560
environment walking around 
chilling, doing shit and like 

766
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,240
pump fun coins are coming in 
from the ceiling with a size 

767
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,280
based on your market cap. 
And if you bump into them, you 

768
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,960
buy $10 worth of that coin, 
right? 

769
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,240
And you can play, play games 
around that shit, right, because

770
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:15,840
it's responsive enough that you 
can actually have that 

771
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,320
interactive stuff with real time
shit. 

772
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,920
And then because we're, we're 
growing them all together, 

773
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,480
there's like again, 1517 teams, 
they're all Co building, right? 

774
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,960
And they got some camaraderie 
among each other. 

775
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,400
So like our perps decks plugs 
into our, our gaming engine, 

776
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200
plugs into our lending protocol,
plugs into our, you know, 

777
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,800
whatever. 
So they're all native. 

778
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Our applications building 
together kind of want to make 

779
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,880
each other better and then 
uplift each other through like 

780
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,160
integration with each other. 
So it's like a interwoven 

781
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:45,320
ecosystem. 
It's a cool vision for sure. 

782
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,120
And I think like I, I will use 
Solana these days because of the

783
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,240
speed and use experience, but 
I'm also not like I'm not 

784
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,560
married to Solana. 
So like if I can find that 

785
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,040
training experience elsewhere 
and there's enough to do, like 

786
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
I'm happy to go there as well. 
And I feel like most people are 

787
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,720
generally in that camp. 
Yeah. 

788
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,920
Why do you think? 
That Evan Solana, that's 

789
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,640
something that's that's a good 
question because I think. 

790
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,840
That's $100 billion question. 
Yeah, so that's, so that was 

791
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,960
what I was just talking about, 
the real time responsiveness 

792
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,640
again, if I could think about 
the constructions of L ones 

793
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,400
versus L twos, right. 
And L1 has to come to consensus,

794
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,960
right? 
It has to have a bunch of notes,

795
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Solana even, right? 
It's very, very fast, It's very 

796
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,560
performant, still has to come to
consensus, right. 

797
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,760
You put your transaction on 
chain, there's a little bit of 

798
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,960
lag time between all the nodes 
agreeing on that thing being 

799
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,400
true, that being able to be 
ingested into an application 

800
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,320
like things have to agree on 
stuff. 

801
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,400
And that takes time at least as 
fast, as slow as the speed of 

802
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
light to travel amongst random 
nodes to agree on ship. 

803
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,800
Like for Solana, that's 300 
milliseconds, right? 

804
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960
400 milliseconds, right round 
trip around the world for these 

805
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480
for these boxes to agree on 
ship, we don't have to do that 

806
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,920
because we don't have to do 
that. 

807
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,320
It's just the distance from you 
to the box and then it's on 

808
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
chain. 
So again, Solana hyper liquid, 

809
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120
hyper liquid is going to be an 
L1, any L1, because they have 

810
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640
consensus can only shrink this 
window down to that 400 

811
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,720
millisecond ish window, right? 
And that that is above the 

812
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,040
perception of instantaneous real
time. 

813
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,320
Real time is that like 100 
millisecond window? 

814
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,800
Because we're in L2 and we're 
saying we'll fuck that, right? 

815
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,920
Like Etherium does. 
The consensus. 

816
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Etherium is decentralized. 
Etherium has all this shit. 

817
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,600
We're a big box on top of it. 
We'll create this experience. 

818
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,440
We can shrink that window from 
that threshold that they're at 

819
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,480
down to, again, we're making 
blocks. 

820
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,080
In 10 milliseconds, we'll have 
100 blocks produced per second. 

821
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,520
That's faster than some chains 
will have transactions per 

822
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,160
second. 
So like the the rate at which we

823
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,160
can produce this on chain stuff 
is not replicable as an L1. 

824
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,000
It's just not so like that's the
difference. 

825
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,160
And if you can create a an 
application that exists in that 

826
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,880
vertical and it's different, 
that is the only possible on or 

827
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,800
on an L2, but specifically for 
us because we're also in 

828
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,480
performing on top of that. 
So what would be the high 

829
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,480
performance apps that you would 
want to to would really thrive, 

830
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,720
let's say in that sort of 
environment? 

831
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,440
Combination of like wacky shit 
and then like the typical stuff 

832
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,480
again, like there's there's the 
stuff that's like I just talked 

833
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,800
about the tap trading right, 
like you literally you literally

834
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,520
cannot replicate it. 
Well, you can't it's just not a 

835
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,640
good experience, right. 
You tap a screen and you have to

836
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,160
wait half a second or a second 
or two seconds for that thing to

837
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,960
be real. 
You cannot produce the like 

838
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,840
confetti blowing experience 
right. 

839
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,200
You literally can't do it. 
The guy who's creating this app 

840
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,000
is he's an X like MEP searcher, 
right? 

841
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,240
Like he's he's this guy gig of 
brain back and stuff. 

842
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,520
He's like, I just want to create
a weird, wacky fun trading 

843
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,760
experience. 
So he's just like, now you have 

844
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,520
like a Robin Hood style app, you
tap your screen, it's gamified. 

845
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,600
So it's confetti, but it's 
instantaneous because we can do 

846
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,000
that, right? 
Because you can tap and it's 

847
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,480
instantaneously on, on, on Jane.
Like that cannot be replicated 

848
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,880
elsewhere. 
Not in the same way. 

849
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,240
Now without like it not being 
final, we can say it's final. 

850
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,280
So like there's that element of 
it, but then there's also the 

851
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,360
weird wacky shit that's like 
deep in style stuff. 

852
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,080
Like we have some, some teams 
that are literally like you 

853
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,280
walking around and you, you take
pictures of like monuments and 

854
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,440
shit. 
They have the ability to like go

855
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,080
and like they're making people 
do this and saying, if you can 

856
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,320
trick these people into taking 
pictures a certain way, we can 

857
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,080
turn that thing into a 3D object
and then make that 3D object 

858
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,960
that's usable inside of our, our
world engine that's being spun 

859
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,720
up by beyond cyber guys. 
So like, it's really just like 

860
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,240
finding people that can create 
things on chain that are like 

861
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:14,920
unbounded because of some of the
trade-offs that we make and then

862
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,960
letting those flourish. 
So combination of stuff that the

863
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,640
typical stuff that can just be a
little more weird and then just 

864
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:22,840
weird things that just weren't 
possible on chain before. 

865
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,880
I think you did a nice job 
buying out the vision. 

866
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,440
Yeah. 
And everyone's, you know, our 

867
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,440
audience definitely wants to 
know, right? 

868
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160
All right, so how can I make 
money off of this? 

869
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Right you. 
Guys are the biggest. 

870
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Of course. 
NFT I've been screaming, I've 

871
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,960
been screaming the tech for for 
months and everyone's like OK, 

872
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,280
whatever. 
And no one cares. 

873
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,960
No one. 
Blast, we blast on through the 

874
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,440
the mindshare chart now where 
everyone's talking about us, I 

875
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,680
guess. 
Absolutely nobody gives a shit 

876
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,440
on unless they can make it to 
your whitelist. 

877
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Not just you, It's for anyone, 
even what we're doing. 

878
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,560
Yeah, yeah. 
The second you talk about, hey, 

879
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,520
we've been building this British
market for eight months, hey, 

880
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,640
guess what, we're adopting 
Myriad's token from the 

881
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,160
foundation. 
You know, it's just name of the 

882
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,640
game. 
So tell us more about this. 

883
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,640
This thing I saw, I was, I think
I'm in, think the boys were in. 

884
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,160
I think 80 other thousand people
are in. 

885
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,760
So this is not an insider cabal 
thing. 

886
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Don't worry, there's 80,000 
people on this fucking list. 

887
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Or addresses that is. 
That's a little. 

888
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,720
Yeah, yeah. 
So that's a little that's a 

889
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
little intimidating. 
I've like, we fucked up the 

890
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,640
messaging. 
There's just a lot of words 

891
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,480
there instead of like clear, 
concise. 

892
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Learn that, learn that. 
This. 

893
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,680
Is a really big positive. 
I think the messaging was just 

894
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,000
long for the average decent 
doesn't read, but if you dig 

895
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,960
into it, it's very interesting 
concept. 

896
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Yeah. 
So like it all, it all stems 

897
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160
from the ethos of like trying to
return to the days of old, 

898
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,840
right? 
Like making sure people who want

899
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,840
to be able to get invested in 
these ecosystems and own a part 

900
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,240
of the network are able to do it
early and on the same terms as 

901
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,840
people that traditionally would 
be private market, right. 

902
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,720
So, right, the team has 
deliberately since day one off 

903
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,960
shot or like or put off raising,
right. 

904
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,400
They there is 20 million total 
to get off the ground. 

905
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,400
The project's been going for 
three years, but they raised 20 

906
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,000
million from Italic Lubin, like 
Dragonfly, whatever that got 

907
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,960
them going. 
The next thing we raised was 10 

908
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600
million from the Echo round. 
That was 3400 people from on 

909
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,440
chain. 
When we did that, we said like 

910
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,680
guys, this isn't we're not done.
We're looking for other 

911
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,040
mechanisms to allow for people 
to be able to get exposure to us

912
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,360
if they want it. 
And we're going to look for on 

913
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,960
chain native ways to do it, 
right. 

914
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,120
So we did echo, knowing echo is 
not perfect, right? 

915
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,040
I'm AUS citizen, I couldn't even
participate in that right? 

916
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,480
If you don't meet the right 
criteria, if you're not signed 

917
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,240
up like it's just not awesome. 
So we know we have to deploy 

918
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,360
this in a couple of different 
ways. 

919
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Again, we could have raised $100
million from a bunch of VCs, but

920
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,960
we think the, the, the love of 
the game has been lost a little 

921
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,280
bit. 
And the way to build a true 

922
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,760
community. 
If you're trying to like spawn 

923
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,560
an ecosystem, you have to align 
incentives through straight up 

924
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,320
wealth generation, right? 
That, that is something that's 

925
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,760
very, very sticky, right? 
If we can, if we can give people

926
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,720
good exposure to the stuff, not 
let it be captured in the 

927
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:54,880
private market, then we can do 
that. 

928
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,480
So this was the second 
installment of like a tactic for

929
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,400
doing that. 
We're, we did whatever we could.

930
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,200
I, I couldn't even participate 
because I'm AUS citizen, but 

931
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,240
like, the team did whatever they
could to make this explicit, 

932
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,680
right? 
Like it could have been a bear 

933
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,480
chain thing, right? 
Oh, we're doing some NFTS. 

934
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,240
Three years later, you still 
don't know what the fuck you're 

935
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:12,400
getting and you're still 
gambling on it. 

936
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,640
We in here said straight up 
these at a minimum are going to 

937
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,440
represent 5% of the network. 
Right. 

938
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,040
Wow. 
So it's 5% at minimum, right, At

939
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,520
minimum, at minimum. 
So it's it's yeah. 

940
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,560
So the that's the thing, right. 
So it's five, it's 10,000 a PS 

941
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,000
for 5% at minimum of the network
with the ability to dynamically 

942
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,720
increase, right. 
So again, we haven't released 

943
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,800
the details on that, but you can
do it And then they come. 

944
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,320
It's it's similar to our echo 
terms, right? 

945
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,680
That comes with vesting 
whatever, but we include in here

946
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,160
KPI vesting, right. 
So if you do certain things over

947
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,640
the next X amount of months then
the IT accelerates the unlock. 

948
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,920
So it's 50% at TGE, but it can 
be potentially more based on 

949
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,040
like your contributions this. 
Is great. 

950
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,720
I love this. 
TBD on it, right, like where we 

951
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,240
can't release everything, but we
will have stuff and then we're 

952
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,840
doing it in two tranches, right?
So 10,000 total, right? 

953
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,040
It's so it's like that's like 
$30 million at current ETH price

954
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,280
because it's one ETH per, but 
we're doing it in two tranches. 

955
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,520
We don't have the fucking chain 
yet. 

956
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,480
We have a test Nets coming at 
the end of the month. 

957
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,280
Are, you know, 30 days ish, 
like, you know, whatever. 

958
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,800
So we can't do anything to say 
like, oh, you've been a big 

959
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,160
user, You've been like, we don't
have that right. 

960
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,160
So this 1st 5000 is, is 
retroactive. 

961
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,600
We looked for people throughout 
the ecosystem that did things, 

962
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,520
displayed stuff that we thought 
were valuable to the ecosystem, 

963
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,960
whether it was a you, you're a 
big Pendle fly user, you're an 

964
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,800
owner of a couple NFTS, you 
attended some of our events. 

965
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,800
You like our spaces host, like I
reached out to like the team 

966
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,760
reached out to a bunch of people
to make sure that like you guys 

967
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,680
have been contributing, people 
have been contributing, right? 

968
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,480
We want to make sure those 
people and artists like 

969
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840
whatever. 
So those people are involved, 

970
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,120
right? 
They have the ability and 

971
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,120
that's, that was the original 
80K list, right? 

972
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,600
So that is not the fact that who
is going to be minting. 

973
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,960
That's just who's eligible to 
register to do whatever, right? 

974
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,720
So the actual number who can 
actually mint are the ones who 

975
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,560
then like take their emails or 
like like, I think they did like

976
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,160
all the Ogs from like Solana, 
right? 

977
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,880
So like there's a lot of people 
that just straight up aren't 

978
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,880
going to check. 
They'll come in, they can 

979
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,680
register their address, that 
will put them on the list, and 

980
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,000
then that will will. 
We're then working on it like 

981
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,280
we're afraid of a gas war. 
We don't. 

982
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,560
We don't want that. 
That's a bad experience. 

983
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,080
Yeah, that was going to ask like
yo, OK. 

984
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,920
Yeah, like to be honest, like we
thought this would be well 

985
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,280
received. 
We didn't think it would be as 

986
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,280
well received as it was, 
especially around the Baromet 

987
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,960
and stuff. 
Like we kind of acknowledged 

988
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,520
that and it turned out it was 
really well as chiefs, like, OK,

989
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,800
now we got to make sure we 
don't. 

990
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,840
We don't, Yeah, there you go. 
We have to make sure we don't, 

991
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,680
don't we do a gas war right 
'cause that like effectively 

992
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,240
raises the valuation of what 
you're actually getting. 

993
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,720
So what all this just say is 
like we're iterating right now 

994
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,920
on the back end to see what we 
can do to mitigate that. 

995
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,840
We're going to try to, we have 
two waves, right? 

996
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,280
The first day is like guaranteed
and free mints for people who've

997
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,680
been like strong supporters, all
that shit. 

998
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,640
And then the second one is just 
a first come, first serve. 

999
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,400
You know, again, we're playing 
with it. 

1000
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,800
We have a vote open right now to
make sure. 

1001
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,520
Yeah, I voted RNG. 
Yeah, like and it's a 

1002
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,560
combination of stuff. 
So like one like people are 

1003
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,480
going to register. 
So I encourage everyone if you 

1004
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,560
are check your wallets like we 
put out a post yesterday on the 

1005
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,480
main account if you go. 
To the so you do this like you 

1006
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,600
just and you make sure you're in
or something. 

1007
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,720
Yeah, like choose your wallet. 
Like I just go register one for 

1008
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,400
fantasy, one for friend tech. 
Yeah, that makes you quick. 

1009
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,000
So like, I'm in, log in and 
delegate. 

1010
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,960
Yeah, the verbiage is sucks. 
It sucks, dude, I had to work 

1011
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,480
that shit so much. 
But yeah, do that all the time. 

1012
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,840
So people know like see my 
wallet was eligible. 

1013
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,080
So you probably like there's 
80,000 people eligible like 

1014
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,920
this. 
Yes, make sure you do the rest 

1015
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,720
like what I just I'm about to do
now to delegate and everything. 

1016
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,640
OK, Yeah. 
And we're seeing that stuff on 

1017
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,400
the back end that like, yeah, 
some people are coming to the 

1018
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,240
screen and seeing that, like not
realizing they have to do that. 

1019
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:45,840
So we're going to update 
verbiage, put out copy, make 

1020
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,360
sure people do that so that we 
can do that. 

1021
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,920
But yeah, so we're going to try 
to get a subset of of wallets 

1022
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,680
that actually register, get an 
RNG from that subset, let them 

1023
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,040
mint, try to do it as in as 
least a rush as possible. 

1024
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,760
If we can just like push people 
into the guarantee day, you 

1025
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,320
know, up up that a little bit so
they can still pay, but it's not

1026
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,920
a rush. 
And then do like a smaller first

1027
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,440
come, first serve. 
We're, we're iterating, but 

1028
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:07,840
we'll have news coming out on 
that. 

1029
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,720
But that's the goal, right? 
So that's this whole thing is 

1030
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,480
just to allow people to 
participate. 

1031
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,480
First 5K is based on retroactive
stuff. 

1032
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,240
We have another 5K coming in a 
couple of months. 

1033
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,280
The second-half of the 
collection that will be purely 

1034
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,120
proactive activity, right? 
So like we'll have a chain live,

1035
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,640
we'll have socials up. 
We'll like we'll be able to do 

1036
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,600
things to identify people that 
are contributing proactively. 

1037
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,840
And that's what that'll be for 
to widen that. 

1038
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,080
And then not, not, not done. 
We're trying to find ways to do 

1039
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,920
this stuff of. 
Course no, it's awesome. 

1040
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,560
So I just did the thing. 
It says congratulations 

1041
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,480
Megamind. 
So just for the people like make

1042
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,760
sure you go through the process 
and then once you get the 

1043
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,560
congratulations Megamind 
message, I'm assuming this is 

1044
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,080
when you're done and you're 
good. 

1045
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,160
So OK, this is great, This is 
exciting, but I guess like when 

1046
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,240
the shit launches, I mean you're
welcome to come back on and do 

1047
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,480
all this stuff. 
So that was exciting. 

1048
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,360
Unless Tyler reminded you have 
any other questions but. 

1049
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,680
See what love have you guys been
doing? 

1050
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,240
You know, appreciate you kind of
I didn't. 

1051
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,560
I didn't know exactly what mega 
youth was. 

1052
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,920
I'll be honest so I have a much 
better understanding. 

1053
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,400
Yeah, this is great. 
Like short suite, we kind of got

1054
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,280
the gist of it, you know, from 
the more DJ and like we don't 

1055
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,560
have to get too techy, nerdy and
stuff. 

1056
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,240
Like people can go read the dogs
for that. 

1057
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,720
Like I think this was great. 
We'll clip it, post it across 

1058
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,400
and and and make sure we get 
that on the timeline. 

1059
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Brad Guy, thank you for coming. 
Sit tight because you might be 

1060
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,160
our lucky charm today.
