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Yo-yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning, good morning GMG 
Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday,

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Wednesday, January 15th, 15th. 
Is it the 15th? 

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Yes, no, yes, 2025. 
Good luck. 

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Another beautiful day to have a 
beautiful day. 

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Oh, it's a great day. 
It's a great day. 

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I got my Co host in the house, 
Tyler Mando. 

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How you guys doing today? 
Good morning. 

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It's a great day, but you said 
CPI came out market full send. 

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Full send CPI came out and the 
future of AI is pumping just 

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like there's a lot. 
You know, you absolutely I mean 

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look at the comments. 
People are fucking high crime 

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season. 
Let's go. 

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That's so funny. 
Do you you guys are losing it in

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the comments. 
I love that I love I love me a 

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nice morning in the bull market.
It's funny, right. 

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You know two weeks it was enough
to to shake like the entirety of

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a crypto Twitter out. 
You know so hilarious. 

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Tyler, good morning. 
How you doing today? 

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Today's been a very, very good 
day already an an electric start

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and just the swings from Monday,
Black Monday to our our 

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beautiful, beautiful green 
Wednesday have been tremendous. 

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And now we have the first crypto
president five days away from 

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office and the tailwinds are 
blowing fiercely, fiercely 

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behind him. 
I. 

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Love that. 
The office. 

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Welcome to office. 
I love that we're five days 

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away. 
This fucking crypto ball in two 

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days in DC, dude, come on. 
Like motherfuckers are bullets, 

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dude. 
Barry. 

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Yeah, that's so funny. 
He called it Black Monday. 

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I love that. 
Black Monday is crazy work, 

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dude. 
I love that. 

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All right, today, the show 
today. 

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Let's talk micro. 
Obviously. 

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Let's the Microsoft talk about 
today. 

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Amanda will cover that. 
Let you guys know what we're 

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about to celebrate $100,000 
Bitcoin, hopefully today again 

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we got the market pumping let's 
talk meme coins let's talk all 

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that good stuff AI as usual blah
blah blah blah blah we'll go 

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through Tyler's top 1000. 
I'm calling the top 1000 today 

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because, you know, probably has 
a lot to talk about. 

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And then we have a partner 
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pretty big, like real estate 
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kind of curious to hear more 
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that's, you know, aside from all
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actually one of the future 
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technology is how you can, you 
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Mendo. 
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Can you take it? 
GM, everyone. 

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So we did have a bit of a macro 
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This started with PPI yesterday,
it's better now. 

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This started with PPI yesterday,
which came in below expectations

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and then similarly CPI came in 
very slightly below expectations

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again today. 
Remember, we've been living in a

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world where there's been a lot 
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remaining high, a lot of fear 
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high. 
This looks more manageable. 

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Core CPI below 3% still. 
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as as bad as as people were 
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We start to see rate cuts be 
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being in July. 
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completely out of the woods with
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Obviously the tenure has gone up
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think maybe it got ahead of 
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current expectations. 
Who knows when Trump comes in. 

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But that was enough to every for
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we can we can gamble for the 
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So as soon as that figure came 
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move is with the AI agents 
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Like this sector has become, 
it's like lever trading, like if

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you got liquidated on Monday, 
pretty much most coins have done

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a 2X since then. 
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across the board. 
The winners today appear to be 

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ARK AXPT again hit an all time 
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A few of the virtuals agents 
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they're looking like they're 
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of the coins. 
Griffane 530. 

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I mean, these coins have all had
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Some of these candles are, are 
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So that was the the big rebound.
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back to 100K as we speak, 99.3 
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XRP weirdly had been have been 
leading and has been leading for

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a while this rally that is 
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gap. 
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But yeah, Salon has just shot 
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the majors, so to speak. 
But very, very good day. 

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This plus yesterday is kind of 
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So like if it was just been one 
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been like CPI came in slightly 
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I think the market would have 
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But they both came in below 
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And this gives us some breathing
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just had jobs, right and we've 
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So we get PC inflation, but 
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ones in terms of like macro data
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So we've probably got two or 
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gambling. 
Who? 

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Two more weeks gambling? 
What do you mean? 

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At at least until the next data 
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people. 
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Like she's surprised. 
Yeah, OMC at the end of the 

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month, but they're all 
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surprising for them to come in 
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December, unless of course, 
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But based on these prints, 
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Do you? 
Want to know what the next thing

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would be here? 
We're going to do this. 

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We're going to do this, then 
we're going to do this. 

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Then we're going to do this. 
Then we're going to do this. 

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Then we're going to do this. 
That's what's going to happen. 

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I I'm I'm telling you right now 
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Well I hope I'm wrong but I 
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touched like 110 K here and we 
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We said it yesterday on the days
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It I think. 
I think you got to tempt 

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yourself and in the days it 
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to this. 
This feels like a euphoric day, 

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right? 
Like you've seen you've seen 

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100% candles from Monday on AI 
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I would be wary buying anything 
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Literally any coin. 
Be wary. 

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No, I mean it, dude. 
You're you're the prime example 

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of you're actually the person 
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Daylight survey. 
What do you mean I'm not buying 

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anything? 
You're the sort of person that 

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if you had some money to spend, 
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this looks like a good candle. 
Like it's up 50%. 

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It's going to go up another 50% 
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Not anymore. 
Definitely not anymore. 

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Can I give the bowl case? 
So I Mando, as always, very 

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level headed and he's right much
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We do have Bob Lucas saying that
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the the bottom is in and that 
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cycle and grind up from here. 
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starting to move back up Trump 
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probably need some kind of 
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to break to really break out. 
I don't know that the executive 

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orders that we have, they're 
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I think that's enough to for us 
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I don't think we're going to 
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of one O 8, maybe we need, you 
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comment of some kind. 
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are options on the table right 
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There's there are scenarios. 
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Where we move up? 
I think you don't even need that

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strategic reserve because that's
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They they they, they I I've 
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these about this. 
All he has to do is free. 

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Ross literally like to me like 
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that he depends on like being 
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You know what I mean? 
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small. 
It's a small, right? 

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That's how I mean it. 
But like smaller like that right

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over like even what was the 
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I think Jennings was talking 
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Tyler was it like it could be 
the strategic reserve, but we're

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not that it would be that the 
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to sell the Bitcoin. 
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like not selling that Bitcoin. 
Tyler like, I feel like that 

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could be enough, right? 
Like anything, I'm not even 

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saying that they need to like 
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They're going to start buying. 
But even any, just any lip 

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service to it, I think it's 
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Yeah, that's true. 
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Maybe we range for the next nine
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Shit anyways, market looks good 
Mando. 

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Is XRP going to flip Ethereum 
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It feels like that's not out of 
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Definitely something for myriad 
markets. 

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We should do a market on that. 
We need a market on that. 

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Yeah. 
Like I feel like that's one that

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that may that may happen. 
Yeah, that, that would be crazy.

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So for a comment like I'm in a 
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involved in like a 20 minute 
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who were thing like what 
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cycle, XRP or Solana? 
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think if you would ask that 
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it's 100% Solana, right? 
But now like the the the 

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consensus was pretty split and 
the XRP bull case is it's 

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American made. 
Trump's kind of already alluded 

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to potentially tax free crypto 
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What? 
Does that mean? 

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What do you mean? 
But I'm still so confused by 

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what that even means. 
Tax free crypto for for America.

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But yeah, I'm still I thought 
that was a joke. 

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That's just a joke dude. 
I wouldn't believe that they're 

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they're going to get tax free 
crypto for American crypto it. 

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Is literally a joke that. 
Taking up greening was a joke 

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three months ago. 
Or renewed. 

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What does it? 
What does it mean? 

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So like XRP would would not have
capital gains. 

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That's how I interpret it, yeah.
Josh XRP. 

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I don't know. 
I can't list off all the other 

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American backs crypto tokens. 
We'll see. 

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We'll see. 
That's the part of the 

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narrative, right? 
Is it just a narrative that base

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common just made-up? 
Or is it a narrative that 

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actually? 
Which one of your DJ and in your

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group chat which one of the DJ 
and your trading group chat 

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started that rumor? 
Like I want to know which one of

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them was it. 
He said this, he's talked, he's 

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talked about maybe like looking 
at American crypto. 

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He wants crypto in America. 
He wants crypto to win in 

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America. 
Yeah. 

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I, I, I don't know how he's 
going to do it. 

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It's. 
But anyways, it's a narrative. 

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You got JP Morgan talking about 
how an XRPETF is going to bring 

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in three to six. 
Bargain. 

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Wait are you an XRP bull like? 
Have you seen a bull case for 

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XRP right now? 
I don't have any. 

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We've got their CEO Garlin House
taking pictures with Trump. 

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He's clearly meeting with him. 
He was literally he gave like 

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millions of dollars to Kamala 
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No, that was the chairman. 
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take that back. 
Honestly, XRPNFTS, I tweeted 

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that yesterday. 
Messed up. 

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I showed that today. 
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But like, there's probably money
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That serious? 
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there's volume, there's money, 
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Like the XRP trenches right now 
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Dude, there's money in there for
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I just like, again, we're 
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Tron is going to kill Solana. 
BS is going to kill Solana. 

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Hyperlake was going to kill 
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XRP is going to kill Solana. 
We're doing it again. 

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Not we, but you. 
The timeline, you know, just 

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saying it'd be funny if. 
It's going to shock me. 

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It does shock me that Solana is 
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Like genuinely, every day I look
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Because Pump Funk keeps selling,
bro. 

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Because Pump Funk, you know, is 
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If that's our theme foundation. 
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route and then just started 
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buying and burning his the pump 
fun I want. 

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To get to that, because that's 
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So I want to get to that. 
Matt, did you have anything else

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right now, which is great. 
Is there anything on the macros 

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and stuff you want to talk on? 
Because Tyler, I know what 

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you're about to get into 
Chicago. 

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least. 
Lost them. 

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Just kidding. 
I was good, right? 

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That was good, right, Chad? 
That was good, right? 

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That was good. 
Oh my God, I was like statue. 

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Have you got me or no? 
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Yeah, the no, just just just 
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be a day to work out if macro 
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this year that tech stocks cool 
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of that over the last few weeks.
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strategists being like, oh, this
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buy value stocks. 
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Tyler. 
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Top story CPI comes in slightly 
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Crypto majors pumping in the 
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in billions in cash from 
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We saw Maker approve another 
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into Athena USDE, Sigma Capital 
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venture fund in the UAE focused 
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and more. 
In token AirDrop protocol news, 

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investigation platform Intel 
Desk that's coming this quarter.

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Barrache up to 1.6 billion in 
TBL thanks to its liquidity 

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protocol. 
Boyko. 

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That's enough to crack the top 
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The Jupa rally event that is 
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They are going to share some 
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an allocation checker so you'll 
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the air drop. 
Forgotten Runiverse launches 

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crashed the Runiverse game. 
Then Abstracts announced a new 

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partnership with Stargate 
Finance for cross chain 

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transfers. 
N AI and crypto folks. 

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Over $2 billion in market cap 
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CPI print. 
Most leadership up 10 to 20% or 

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more on the day. 
As Manda mentioned, several of 

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the virtual tokens are running 
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announcement this morning. 
Virtuals a new buyback program 

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where they are going to use post
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So we'll dig into that. 
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spot in mindshare and also $750 
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number one AI agent. 
Binance added Grift and AI 

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Monica to its road map. 
Franklin Templeton is now 

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exploring the intersection of 
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They talked about it in their 
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We have a new hot debut. 
This MATES token came out of 

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nowhere. 
I didn't have it on my radar. 5X

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from presale, $190 million in 
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That is a new. 
That's the Web of U.S. team. 

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That's the Web of U.S. team 
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Dude, it's I'm so tired. 
I'm sick. 

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I I'm a I'm a so sick to Not 
today, not today. 

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We'll be that one aside for now,
not today. 

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AI 60Z debuted a new operating 
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operating system for AI agents. 
Arc announced integration with 

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Abstract along with several 
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Arc massive winners. 
It's a 450 million, basically a 

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new all time high, though not 
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Pippin did fall about 40% after 
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So at some point the tech has to
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And memes and NFTS Meme coin 
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The surprise yesterday was 
Coinbase adding Toshi to its 

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road map. 
Toshi just a $50 million market 

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cap token, but it jumped about 
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NTS are mixed, led by punks and 
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their IP. 
Those are circulating and 

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getting louder. 
The NBA Top Shot back in the 

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news. 
They are auctioning 8 moments 

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with Sotheby's as part of the 
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goes through January 21st. 
So shout out to Top Shot. 

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I saw that. 
I thought that was kind of cool.

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Am I the only one? 
I don't know, but anyway. 

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Top shot moments great. 
Like it's, it takes me back. 

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Like, I don't know, I think it's
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the future of like NFTS and 
technology and like blockchain 

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like artifacts on like, and I 
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like, for example, like I have a
friend that lost like a two 

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dozen war holes in the LA fires,
a good friend of mine. 

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I have another friend that lost 
like $30 million worth of like 

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Pokémon cards like that serious,
like really good friend of mine,

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nearly 30, twenty $30 million 
worth of collectibles and the 

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fires super sad. 
Like if you're bullish on the 

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future of collectibles on chain 
digital and stuff like the top 

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shot thing is kind of like, I 
don't know, just much sense 

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here, but let's go back. 
Was that Buster? 

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Yeah, so Buster's so his kind of
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of like the largest Pokémon 
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planet. 
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everything you can dream of as a
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Every card, NBAMLB Pokémon, 
everything you can imagine 

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exists. 
Even some cards are like one of 

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ones. 
We're all at his house. 

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And then the stuff that he had 
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burnt down. 
So it's like the whole yeah, bro

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super side. 
He lost everything. 

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Thankfully he was safe. 
Shout out to Jeremy and 

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everything but but but it's like
everything's gone like 

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Charizard, like Japanese hollow,
one of one fucking whatever the 

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fuck. 
Like the craziest things, like 

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rookie LeBron James, Michael 
Jordan on one card. 

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Like he had like the most like 
he actually had a beeple 

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physical as well like a little 
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But anyways, like things like 
that makes you really think Ron 

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Rivlin, another friend of mine 
that met through clubhouse, one 

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of the largest Warhol collectors
on the planet. 

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I just read an article about him
yesterday that he lost a dozen 

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or two dozen Warhols. 
So when he so he went back, 

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saved his family, went back, 
grabbed 3 Warhols, ran out of 

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the crib and then the crib burnt
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Like it's stuff like that's 
super sad, right? 

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But like it's just stuff like 
that that makes you think like, 

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oh, wait, like is the future of 
like the collectibles? 

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Like actually, you know, it 
makes a little more sense, 

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right? 
ANYWAYS, not trying to like, you

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know, NFTS and Bronx in the 
future, like on the back of like

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a catastrophe, but just makes 
you think about the top shot 

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sold to these moments like that 
like differently. 

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Anyways, Tyler, I feel like we 
have to start with crypto punks 

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today. 
I feel like we got it. 

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And like that was the talk of 
town yesterday. 

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Take us through what happened 
yesterday. 

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I mean, it looks like Wally dot 
Swoosh kind of broke the rumor 

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because it's not news. 
But the rumor mill is that Yoga,

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who is the current owner of the 
punks IP along with a bag of 

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like 400 and 420 punks, is 
potentially going to sell them. 

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And then, or at least if there 
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least read enough into it that 
there was a run on the crypto 

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punk floor. 
So there was about 20, 20 or so 

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punk sales floor quickly jumped 
to about 41 ETH thing. 

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It's pulled back a touch right 
around 40 ETH here this morning.

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But once again, this is ignited 
the discussion of A, is Yuga a 

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good owner or steward for punks 
and or Part B is a new owner 

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bullish? 
And of course, the answer to 

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that question is, well, it 
depends who it is. 

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I mean, you're a punk owner. 
I'm not. 

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So I feel like my opinion less 
matters a little bit less. 

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Curious for your thoughts. 
I mean, to me it makes sense 

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that you go with sell and I 
believe this. 

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I believe that they may be 
shopping them around just 

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because they've been cleaning 
shop a little bit and kind of 

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moving off pieces that aren't 
part of their core, core 

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business. 
And I could, I could see that 

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it's reasonable for them to just
maybe this is a headache that 

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they don't want to deal with 
anymore. 

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Yeah, I mean, you know, 
respectively, if you have a PF 

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pound 100K, your opinion doesn't
matter to start with. 

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But I was just kidding. 
But I actually I disagree on the

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whole thing. 
Like with everyone on timeline, 

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I for one think that you guys 
actually really get steward of 

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the crypto punks. 
And I know this is a hard take 

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in this market. 
I thought G Money had a similar 

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take and I think from him is 
maybe he has a big impact. 

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Look, so some punks, I'm still 
just a 2021 dude that just came 

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into the space right, but like I
think that they've been doing a 

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good job. 
I posted my interview today with

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the punk, so I'll pin it to the 
top with Matt Hall. 

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I got to interview him. 
I love the synergy he has with 

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Natalie Stone chat to her as 
well. 

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By the way, I love the book. 
I have it right here. 

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It's incredible. 
I love that they did. 

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I love the collaborations 
happening outside. 

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I love that they got in some 
poppy do the ICM. 

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I I mean like they care. 
I know for a fact with my many 

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conversations with you collabs 
that the founders care about 

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crypto punks. 
Now the truth is, Tyler, there's

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some truth in some like wrong 
information in that thread, 

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right? 
And I, I even, you saw me, I 

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quote tweeted whale, right? 
It's true that a lot of people 

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have been bidding punks. 
I heard of $35 million bids back

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in September when I was in 
Korea. 

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Those bids were real because I 
know from another party, they 

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also put in a, or apparently 
allegedly put in the $35 million

451
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,560
bid. 
That was before punks flew. 

452
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720
Remember the punks just like 
went up to X or whatever. 

453
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,080
So at this stage, the 400 punks,
you get lab zones or what, 75, 

454
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,040
80 mil, let's say I was kind of 
talking about with Luca about it

455
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,600
yesterday just for fun. 
I was like, how much do you 

456
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,640
think punks are worth Actually 
right now with the IP he was, he

457
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,040
was saying it might be like 100 
mil, right? 

458
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,800
So let's call it punks 100 mil. 
They probably have a lot of 

459
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,840
offers on table. 
It's probably not a stupid idea 

460
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,320
to sell them for Yuga Labs 
because it's a lot of runway 

461
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,360
with $100 million and I'm 
assuming they have a big burn. 

462
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,000
It's a big company, right, with 
big ambitions and endeavors. 

463
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,640
But I don't think they're 
selling like, I think, I think 

464
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,440
Garga's tweet was very, you 
know, I, I think, I think, I 

465
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,840
think, I think Garga made it 
very clear yesterday, guys. 

466
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,520
I, I think this is all like just
speculation. 

467
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,680
I think Whale got wind of the 
bids and of some serious offers.

468
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,240
And I know for a fact that there
has been maybe some more serious

469
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,200
offers now. 
But I don't think he's selling, 

470
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,360
man. 
And for me, it's these two 

471
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,080
sentences. 
He says whoever owns punks must 

472
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600
have in our iron stomach and be 
willing to basically lock the IP

473
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,440
up and throw away the key. 
So I I interpreted a little 

474
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,280
differently if you scroll up to 
his message. 

475
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Not going to take a deal for 
money if it feels like it hurts 

476
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,840
the legacy of this ass. 
So it's like leaving the door. 

477
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,560
That's how you're reading it. 
So I agree he's not going, 

478
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000
they're not going to sell it to 
who they perceive would be a bad

479
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,520
owner or a bad steward. 
But if the right group comes, I 

480
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,800
think this leaves the door open 
that yes they would sell it. 

481
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080
But the argument Probably not 
anytime soon. 

482
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720
Yeah, I'm very curious to see 
that. 

483
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,480
I mean, Amanda, what do you 
think should, should you, should

484
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,840
you go, should should you go 
labs be be be selling crypto 

485
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,320
punks? 
And if So, what do you how much 

486
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,360
do you think they'd be getting 
for it? 

487
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,880
I think, I think it probably 
just because no one wants to do 

488
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,440
anything with the IP. 
So it probably just trades at 

489
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,000
the the value of the crypto 
punks themselves, right, that 

490
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,280
they have in the treasury maybe 
plus a little bit more. 

491
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,640
Yeah. 
I think they should sell it. 

492
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960
You think they should? 
I don't think it's a cool thing.

493
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,360
It's definitely not the core, 
yeah. 

494
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,760
Like this, I mean, it's 
difficult to say because I think

495
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,640
that's a that's a long term 
valuable asset. 

496
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:10,640
But yeah, who knows, who knows, 
Like maybe maybe some like 

497
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,040
larger holders want to come in 
and buy it. 

498
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,120
Have you just seen this AI16Z 
thing? 

499
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,440
Hold on, what's going on now? 
Heard some rumors. 

500
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,120
Is it another crash out? 
They just announced that 

501
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:26,240
advanced humanoid robot. 
OK, that that was that was the 

502
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:32,200
rumor I heard. 
Well, what is going on? 

503
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,960
They're building. 
People say it's all sham. 

504
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,800
Yeah, so OK, so so the crypto 
punks and I think there's not 

505
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,760
much more to cover. 
Check out my interview with with

506
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,440
the with the Co founder, the 
crypto punks. 

507
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,200
Let me pin it here. 
It's pinned to my profile. 

508
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,520
Make sure you share a tweet. 
Give it some love. 

509
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040
By the way, there's 1600 people 
live on our Twitter spaces. 

510
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Did we do something? 
Welcome. 

511
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,080
Welcome. 
There's 1600 people listening 

512
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,320
live on Twitter Space 1600. 
Well to the 1600 people, maybe 

513
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,760
it's because of our guests. 
I see you guys, Madani, Eduardo 

514
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,240
in the in the studio. 
Just give me another like, you 

515
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,160
know, 710 minutes. 
We'll bring you guys up. 

516
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,880
Can't wait to talk about what T 
Rice is building. 

517
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720
Heard you guys fellow 
Montrealers too, but whatever we

518
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,480
did, just so you know, we're 
doing a loot box thing at the 

519
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,080
end and you may win the punk. 
Speaking of punks on the show. 

520
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,200
So make sure you go to raffle 
bought dot XYZRAFFLEBOT dot XYZ,

521
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,640
raffle bought dot XYZ. 
The code today is punks, PUNKS 

522
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,360
and make sure you sign up 
Marriott dot markets. 

523
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,520
OK, this is this is going to be 
your favorite prediction market 

524
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,840
moving forward. 
Let me tell you that anyways, 

525
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,080
back to to AI and these topics 
of the day. 

526
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,600
Let's I want to talk about the 
virtual stuff, but what's going 

527
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,280
on with the ICCC? 
Is this like breaking news or 

528
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,400
something? 
It seems to be breaking news. 

529
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
I don't know. 
Like Ark is also full sending 

530
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200
right now. 
Oh my God. 

531
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Just pull up the board. 
Pull up the board for. 

532
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Shit. 
I don't know what ARK just 

533
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000
announced. 
ARK is like had its first token 

534
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
handshake today I think of for 
like one of his projects. 

535
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,880
So maybe it's bouncing around 
that like wait they had to pay 

536
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,720
in ARK? 
The board is green boys. 

537
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,520
The board is green numbers. 
I mean that AI16Z thing is the 

538
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,720
thing that's that mean. 
If they get into fucking robots 

539
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,880
dude like. 
Wait, what? 

540
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Where is it? 
What do you see that? 

541
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:30,200
AI16Z news the account yeah go 
down I mean it's clearly just a 

542
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,960
it's just a lot of thing at the 
moment, but. 

543
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,480
Resale for advanced humanoid 
robot. 

544
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,800
Oh my God, $420,000. 
It's a bad you can. 

545
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,600
Buy you can buy like a dozen, 
dude, you're buying a robot. 

546
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,200
I'm. 
Not going to lie, that's the 

547
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280
sort of thing that could like 
AAA token. 

548
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Here's the thing about AI16 ZAI 
16Z. 

549
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,080
That was always a part of the 
bull case and people kept tying 

550
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,440
it to Shaw. 
One single person. 

551
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,760
This is an army of contributors.
It's like this could be a pocket

552
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,000
of five devs working on this sub
project. 

553
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Oh, another fiber or driving for
in other aspects of the business

554
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,080
like this is? 
We wrote about this 20 minutes 

555
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,240
ago. 
OK, so folks must have gotten 

556
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,400
the inside scoop on this too. 
AI agent Eliza OS is getting a 

557
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,000
robot buddy, but it's not for 
sex. 

558
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,120
Oh yeah, it's true. 
Someone, someone paid to put a 

559
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,920
vagina on Eliza or something. 
Remember I'm. 

560
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,360
I'm dead serious. 
I'm not even kidding. 

561
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Yes, Google it. 
Popular AI agent Eliza OS is 

562
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,840
getting a robot Bonnie. 
But the creators of the robot 

563
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,200
emphasize it is not to be used 
for sex. 

564
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Just for you dejans out there, 
just for you See, it's not the 

565
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,040
quit making this up dude. 
I'm going to write. 

566
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,320
I'm going to read the sentence 
again. 

567
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:57,040
OK, Popular agent Eliza OS is 
getting ready getting a robot 

568
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,200
body. 
But the creators of the role 

569
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,160
emphasized and not used for sex.
Instead, it's designed to be 

570
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840
humanoid AI companion that 
builds deep connections with 

571
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,200
humans by exhibiting emotional 
intelligence, empathy and 

572
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,800
through performing tasks. 
Can you imagine if a crypto 

573
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:17,440
native brand beats the major AI 
players to consumer humanoid 

574
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,440
robot companions? 
I thought. 

575
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680
You were going to say, could you
imagine fucking a robot? 

576
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,680
But. 
What are we? 

577
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,720
Yeah, I don't really know what 
this is like. 

578
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,720
When it's going, Eliza Wakes Up 
is designed as the next 

579
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,480
generation humanoid AI 
companion. 

580
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Ava, head of projects for Eliza 
Wakes Up, told Decrypt. 

581
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,600
Oh wait, Decrypt got the this. 
Is a house manager. 

582
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,880
This is a house manager. 
It's going to help you do your 

583
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,480
dishes, do your laundry. 
You can ask it what the price of

584
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Tesla stock is. 
Eliza offers lifelike Eliza 

585
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,680
offers lifelike emotional 
intelligence, dynamic physical 

586
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,200
abilities and task execution 
that ranges from personal 

587
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,240
scheduling to handling complex 
operations like blocks and 

588
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,240
transactions. 
Nice the creators of humanoid I 

589
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,240
mean SO420K that's it. 
That's only how much soul is 

590
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,600
that? 
That's it's only you know it's 

591
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,960
it's only 2100 soul. 
You know it's it's only it's 

592
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,760
only two BTC. 
You know it's only 225 E three 

593
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,480
you guys biting. 
I mean, you, you're like, you're

594
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960
like the AI guy. 
I mean, surely you're buying a 

595
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320
robot to take? 
Care of I can't have, I can't 

596
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,120
have a robot around my my 
children. 

597
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,480
You never know when these things
are going to turn to evil. 

598
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Imagine it just like snaps your 
fucking kids like I. 

599
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,440
Mean honestly, like the size of 
a human, the size of a robot 

600
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
actually is a very important 
factor. 

601
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,000
I think interesting. 
OK, mind, are you buying a 

602
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,880
robot? 
I mean not for 420 grand, that 

603
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,640
does change it. 
But this feels like the 

604
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760
computer, like early on, right? 
It's the thing that's going to 

605
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880
go lower and lower in pricing as
tech advances, right? 

606
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,000
Like one day we're all going to 
buy robots for like 20 GS. 

607
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Yeah, maybe, Maybe. 
Isn't the Tesla robot 30 grand? 

608
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,280
That's the question someone was 
asking Canada. 

609
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,880
It's. 
Probably not as good the Tesla. 

610
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Robot's way cheaper than this. 
I didn't realize it was 420 

611
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,080
grand. 
That's quite a big deal. 

612
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Someone said imagine it crashes 
out like Shaw. 

613
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Someone else said imagine it 
gets mad because you're holding 

614
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,320
fartcoin and not realizing and 
throws your kid out the window. 

615
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,640
You guys are like the arc dude. 
Dark. 

616
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,800
OK, our guest. 
Can we talk the virtual stuff 

617
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,080
real quick? 
Maybe we go deeper tomorrow. 

618
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,680
Let's talk about that. 
Let's talk about that. 

619
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,760
Then we'll keep the rest for two
more. 

620
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Talk to us about the virtual 
news. 

621
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,760
Because this is a big deal. 
So our two leaders both have 

622
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880
major announcements. 
So virtuals is going to do a 

623
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,760
buyback and burn of their 
respective agent tokens across a

624
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,040
30 day twop. 
They're going to use 13 million 

625
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,600
virtual tokens, which right now 
is worth about 45 to $50 

626
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,000
million. 
They they've got Doom dashboard 

627
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680
where you can see the exact 
amounts they're going to do. 

628
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,160
I've seen some, some mixed 
reactions out there to to what 

629
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,679
this is like what this means, 
perhaps why they would do it 

630
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,040
because like on the surface to 
me, this is them effectively 

631
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,800
taking away $45 million of their
revenue and using it to pump 

632
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,880
downstream tokens which surface 
made. 

633
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,520
So like part of the reason 
virtuals got valued so high was 

634
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,480
because of its revenue. 
But I think the bull case is now

635
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,480
the agents on their platform 
will be more valuable. 

636
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,360
They have higher incentives for 
new builders to launch tokens to

637
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,840
launch agents on their platform.
So the value of the platform 

638
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,760
perhaps increases because of 
that and they can effectively 

639
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,239
generate cash in other ways, 
perhaps via a raise of some 

640
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,239
kind. 
So it's a bet it it certainly is

641
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,679
a bit of a gamble, but I mean 
tokens up 25% market seems to 

642
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:58,200
like it. 
OK market I I see nothing. 

643
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,560
I kind of saw you in ovi 
chitchat about it early on. 

644
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,000
I just didn't have time to 
relook into it. 

645
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,480
My read is my first read is like
isn't this bullish? 

646
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,480
Like if they're going to re 
spend the money within their 

647
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,640
ecosystem like the 40 million if
hopefully the. 

648
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,040
Tokens bad bearish for virtual 
was my knee jerk. 

649
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,240
Got it, got it, got it. 
Now it seems bullish. 

650
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,720
Bullish. 
But is it a flywheel and bullish

651
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,520
for virtual down the line? 
If, if it just keeps going back 

652
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,440
up to virtuals and then they 
keep spending it, you'd have to.

653
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,880
But this is only in the up 
market, right? 

654
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,640
In the down market, of course 
talking different, but in up 

655
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520
market, interesting. 
OK. 

656
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,200
This is crypto and it's not 
totally solely valued based on 

657
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,920
their revenue. 
So like if it was if their token

658
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,880
valuation was based solely on 
their revenue, then this would 

659
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080
have to be objected by Bearish. 
OK, you know this is actually 

660
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,680
bullish for wrecked, so I'll 
take it because it's bullish for

661
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,760
the agents on the right. 
Am I wrong to read that? 

662
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Is bullish for the agents on the
virtuals because the money kind 

663
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,200
of flows back to them, right? 
Wow. 

664
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,240
ARC is full sending here I 
guess. 

665
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,120
Wreck doesn't qualify though I 
don't think because it's not one

666
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,280
of the native. 
There's like 2 tiers of tokens 

667
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,960
on virtuals. 
Yeah, 1 is where you. 

668
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,920
I see. 
I see. 

669
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,600
OK. 
Just just just give it a shot, 

670
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,640
you know? 
Quick qualifier. 

671
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,000
No, you got a Fact Check. 
It's good. 

672
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,400
Listen. 
Doesn't hurt. 

673
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Doesn't hurt. 
You're fighting me. 

674
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,200
It's OK. 
I'm just kidding. 

675
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,800
What's up with Arc? 
Just quickly. 

676
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,120
What's up with Arc? 
Whoa, whoa, whoa. 

677
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Wow. 
OK. 

678
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840
What a bounce. 
I actually don't know what's up 

679
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,600
with ARK. 
I know today they were going 

680
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:38,560
live with like their first 
application, their hand that 

681
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,880
like their first thing is where 
you like you have to pay. 

682
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:47,080
You have to pay using ARK to 
like use the some of the 

683
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,200
features but I don't. 
I'm so unsure which project it 

684
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,080
is yet, but like they're 
definitely doing something 

685
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,440
today. 
Well, there was also the 

686
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080
abstract announcement like 
there's a bunch of little things

687
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,880
right, going on with ARC, it 
seems. 

688
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,480
I saw Saigar tweet about it, how
this is going to be working with

689
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,920
abstract. 
So it's pretty cool with 

690
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,600
abstract you have Eliza OS and 
and ARC now seems to I think. 

691
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,160
So I think they're about to 
announce the the first project 

692
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,760
which is going to be part of 
this. 

693
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:19,200
So how Eliza has done it is a 
bit like free for all, like it's

694
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,120
a repo, anyone uses it and like 
they'll do partnerships. 

695
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,280
They are doing partnerships with
like maybe the bigger people 

696
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,000
like more integrated 
partnerships. 

697
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,160
Arc did it a slightly different 
route. 

698
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:38,080
No one is on Rust, which kind of
means a slightly different, they

699
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,640
talk about it from a slightly 
different calibre of projects, 

700
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,880
which might look to integrate 
more complex, let's say. 

701
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,960
But also they have done almost 
like a, they've done like a 

702
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640
process where you have to apply,
you get vetted and then they're 

703
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680
they're doing like a they're 
doing a series of like more high

704
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,280
profile launches, let's say. 
And the first of those is going 

705
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,760
to be today. 
So, so let's see. 

706
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,040
And these are like Handshake, as
in they're going to be, they're 

707
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:13,720
going to be integrating Arc 
into, into whatever they're 

708
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:17,040
doing. 
So maybe, maybe it's ahead of 

709
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,920
that. 
Maybe it's already been, maybe 

710
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,160
it's already been announced. 
But but this is just a smaller 

711
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
version of AI16Z, right? 
Like at this stage. 

712
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,160
So maybe you can keep running. 
Like there's a lot. 

713
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,080
There's less thud around ARC 
than there is around AI16Z, 

714
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:43,040
that's for certain. 
OK, OK, OK. 

715
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:43,840
OK. 
OK. 

716
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,400
So this is good. 
I guess we'll see where this 

717
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,640
takes us. 
All right, we'll, we'll keep the

718
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520
rest of the topics for tomorrow.
Do you still keep your arc? 

719
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,920
I have some. 
Do you still have your arc? 

720
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Pardon. 
I said, do you still have your 

721
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,800
arc? 
Yes, I have some, not all. 

722
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,840
No, sadly no, I'd be up like a 
lot right now. 

723
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,280
I have like I rotated to this. 
Excuse me? 

724
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,000
You're out here sending me rugs 
and then you're cooking the 

725
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,440
bitcoins? 
I don't get it. 

726
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,520
You told me, You asked me in the
chat the other day. 

727
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,240
You said you owned Ark, and I 
said yes. 

728
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,040
What did you do? 
How did you fumble it from now 

729
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,360
until then? 
You've sold it all, haven't you?

730
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,320
I can tell. 
I can just tell your tone. 

731
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Here's here's what's going on. 
Here's why I need new friends. 

732
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,720
If you guys want to apply to be 
my friend, just Google me and 

733
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,600
send me a message. 
God, brother, so. 

734
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,280
Amando and all the other boys 
are literally sending us coins 

735
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,120
daily that go down like 300%. 
And in the meantime, they're all

736
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,600
in the big trades though, all 
the big trades. 

737
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,920
So everyone's in the big trade 
or they're sending fucking coins

738
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,480
that go to 0. 
Everyone's going to big coins, 

739
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,440
right? 
Right. 

740
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,880
What? 
What did he do? 

741
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Just like go, you know, go to 
porno. 

742
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,680
This is what's going on in the 
trenches. 

743
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,520
Goat 2 point O brother I gave 
you I gave you ARC on a plate 

744
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,160
and we spoke about it 2 days 
ago. 

745
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,040
You didn't. 
What happened? 

746
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,360
You did not give. 
Actually you did not give ARC at

747
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,920
all. 
The only coin you gave us was 

748
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120
was goat. 
Don't you don't even stop, don't

749
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,000
you even stop you, The person 
gave you arc the. 

750
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,360
Arc was no come on. 
I'm checking our chat arc. 

751
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,880
That was me, dude. 
Was ARC you? 

752
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,840
Was it? 
Was it there? 

753
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Was Harold Sobie Tyler? 
Arc is me. 

754
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,280
Is it? 
Was it Tyler? 

755
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Back to my. 
I'm going back to arc the 

756
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,560
original mention of this God 
damn coin. 

757
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,840
I was in very early but then 
sold and then. 

758
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,640
I think OSF gave us the AI 
trade. 

759
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,600
I think OSF was the earliest 
today AI. 

760
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,280
All right, let's go to our guest
today. 

761
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,600
Let's go to our today's show 
guys. 

762
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,440
While while Mandel finds me the 
chats with with Zig I'm I'm I'm 

763
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,520
telling Sobie on the hive. 
That's what I'm doing, but 

764
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
that's that's like that's that's
my next play. 

765
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,520
We'll see if it works out, but 
I'm happy with farquin dude. 

766
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,040
I I have a lot of farquin yes, 
like a lot. 

767
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,920
I I bought more on the dip. 
So I have a lot.

