Yo-yo, yo, what up? Good morning.
Good morning, GMG. I don't even know what I'm not
going to lie. Wednesday, Wednesday, September
18th, 2020. Look at that.
Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day.
I got my coast in the house. Tyler Mando, how you guys doing
today? Doing amazing, man.
You can't just act like nothing's happened, right?
I mean, we're, we're right back into it, you know?
Right back into it. What's been going on with your
in your life recently? Not much, just swing on a quick
side quest and came back, you know, just a, just a just just a
quick little quick little, quick little mission in Florida back
and forth. I'm sure, I'm sure we're I, I,
I, I'm sure we'll get back in into the I, I have to say, like
it was kind of weird waking up in my bed this morning.
I woke up, I was like, so do I go back to my life now?
And I was like, I kind of, I kind of like, I kind of really
like what just happened. I, I got to, I got to keep it
going. Look, well, I'm sure we'll get
into details of that matter. I'm sorry Tyler, how you doing
today? I'm good excited to talk to you
and hear the story of first hand.
I think along with hundreds of other folks who are listening in
here this morning. I am curious if the adrenaline
has started to to wear off and and how long that that may have
lasted. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I it's like it never really like hit hard.
It's been just there like it was just a non-stop high because
it's like it was a it was a it was a weird one.
Like I was just always on it. And then the night of, I think
it's when it really hit after. So I was in bed just like
sitting in bed until 5:00 in the morning after it happened.
And and so I just, I just couldn't sleep.
And so it's been a constant high ever since.
And it's mostly, it's not even that it's like we're still on
the thick of it. It's like, OK, now we have to
edit the video, which is finished by the way.
So the video will go to the world.
The entire interview with Donald Trump.
It's like 35 minutes, which is great.
It's not too long. It's going to go out now.
And I'm not what's next and this and that and that.
OK, who's next? What are we doing?
How are we putting it out? What are we creating?
So we're just like we're, we're already like, you know, in in
this mode of like right back into it.
You know we're not, we're not pausing for anything, right?
Yeah, the the reach of the interview I think was bigger
than perhaps I expected it to be like, you know, CN NS picking
up. I've got several like normally
friends texting me asking me about Trump crypto like even WLF
now it it went wire than I think I could have even imagined.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we'll, we can talk about the lead up in
everything or whatever, whatever you want to what I want to talk
about by little Tyler because happy to cover it all.
And I'm sure people want to know what it was like because I was
excited to share what it was like because it was it was just
a real experience. But right before going live.
So there's a lady that handles like Donald Trump's TV
appearances, right? She makes sure he gets on TV.
This is not like she she does all of it.
Right before going on, I was already like on tilt because it
was like 5 minutes before me pressing the button, she comes
up to me. She's like, just so you know,
she's like, you got this. She was like really cool.
And she's like, just so you know, every single TV station
across America is going to be live broadcasting the audio into
the TV with President Trump because this is the first
interview post second assassination attempt.
So I'm like, you're telling me this now, 5 minutes before the
biggest moment of my entire life and career and everything.
And so it turned out that it was true.
And then they played it and they replayed it.
So it's like the next morning, Anderson Cooper, then again, CNN
at 7:00 PM. Then Keith Grossman calls me
from Singapore. He's like, yo, we were just on
TV. And then the Guardian in
Montreal, my homies from school, like here, you're on CJAD, which
is like a local radio. And, and so it's like, it's like
really like we got two and a half million listeners on on X
so far. But I wouldn't be surprised if
there's like 50 to 100 million people more 100 plus that have
that have heard at least a snippet.
I mean, I've got messages from people in the UK Mando, like
from BBC, like my, my friend Mark Gillespie was like, I was
reading this article and I was like, wait a moment, I know this
kid and says Calvin Harris's manager with I hosted back then
on clubhouse. And so they were all like, yo,
And then my mom apparently was getting like, just her phone was
blown up and everything. You know, the fact that I'm
Persian, say, like BBC Persian. And you have like all the big
news stations just like, come in.
There's a news station. I actually called my mom's home.
Really. Local Montreal, they're coming
over in four hours, but La Presse, it's a local Montreal
one. It's like a big one here.
And then I was like, Mom, whatever it is, you say nothing.
I was like, you say nothing. I was like just just just, I
can't answer anything at the moment.
Just like I'm going to please call my son, whatever.
So so I'm I'm by the way, I'm sure she did not listen and she
went off on like how you know, how happy she was and everything
and proud. But that's good, I guess, and
cute. But but yeah, it's it's been
actually insane. They call me like, we just
wanted to know how in Montreal there ended up there with the
President Donald Trump. I was like, we can talk about
it. Yeah.
Well, that's where I want to start too.
I think I've got a laundry list of questions, but let's do it up
on the list is is how did you land this?
And this is, you know, this is the number one interview in
crypto. I think everyone's acknowledged
that. How'd you pull it off?
OK, let's start from the start. I was in Japan.
I mean, you guys know that three weeks ago, the last week of
August. And then a friend of mine was
like, you know, a friend of all of ours, but I'll keep his name
private for now. Was like, Yo, these guys are
doing this production for for world Liberty financial, but
it's going to do with Donald Trump.
Do you want to do it? I'm like, when is it like
September 16th? Like, oh shit, that's doing
Singapore. But like, if it's Donald Trump,
you know, like, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll cancel things and
move things around. So on August 29th, I gave him a
call with, with the guys and actually, I knew them from
before, right? And, and I'd heard of them and
everything, like the Instagram game, like all that stuff.
So I've, I, I, they had heard of me and they knew of me, Zach and
Chase and, and Zach and, and get on the phone call with Zach,
right? Zachary Folkman and who is?
It going to be if it wasn't you. No one they, they, I, I, I don't
know, like they Zach. So here's the thing.
And I want to give him his flowers because I'm sure he's
listening because actually Zachary listens to the show And
he was like, I know rug radio and he's like, I know your
morning show. He's like, it's like the best
show. It's my favorite one.
I want you to do this. And originally, Emmanuel, it was
actually going to be internal like something like Tucker
Carlson or something like that, 'cause they have access to
anyone. So it was, it was not going to
be like a web three, you know what I mean?
Like a crypto. But if Zach was the one who's
like, no, we need someone that's grass roots.
We need someone that's native and there's some names that he
didn't want. He was like, I want this guy
like I went for rogue. Like I think he's the right guy.
And so originally they only wanted someone to come and help
produce the Twitter spaces. So that's why I was connected.
I was like, Yo, that's the Twitter spaces guy.
Like let his company handle it. Rug radio and do everything.
So originally Mando, it was just going to be us handling the back
end production. And then I proposed like I, it's
funny, we were, I was like 10:00 PM in Japan and I'm on the phone
with the, with the guy and I'm like, yo, like, do you want me
to host this? Like just putting my hat in the
ring? Like do you want me to come and
host this? I'll call cancel token 2049 and
everything. And then he was like, let me run
it by the team. Then an hour later, like fuck
it, let's go. You got the interview and so and
so let's go. And like I want to give him his
flowers Zachary because like it's all him.
Like he believed in me. He was one of the main people
like behind the scenes, like making sure I'm OK taking care
of me every single day. We talked like 5, I had like 5
meetings a day about this. And the hardest part was I
couldn't tell anyone. Like I couldn't tell a soul even
on our team. Like it was like we had to make
a separate team chat with only the people involved, like Sam's
for example, or Jen doing the graphics or Charlie doing
videos. But like even that was like
super lip tight. And then for the interview
stuff, it was only me and and one other person on the dock
because obviously you can't have that leak because, you know, now
this tradition market is all the fucking stuff on the line, which
is insane. So yeah, that's how it landed it
Tyler. They came to us because they
knew us. They trusted us.
They, you know, they knew that we were the right people for the
job and I and looking back in the interview, I, I think that
we did really good and I'm really proud and I do agree that
we were the right people for the job.
So, and then what was it like? So you, you turned up at the
estate and I remember when you turned up and then literally you
were like, hey, I'm just going in.
And I was like, yo, there's been an assassination attempt like as
you arrived, which was just absolutely wild.
And I, I even said to you, I thought like 90% chance that was
it. That was it.
So that was the most insane thing ever.
So like when we got, so I went to Florida what Saturday night
late and then on on Sunday morning.
So on Sunday, Donald Trump's executive assistant.
So the whole thing, by the way, it's like you have to give
secret. That was the most report like
leading up to like Secret Service screening, background
checks, Social Security numbers, all the good stuff, right?
For obvious reasons. So we had to take care of the
crew this and that. I had like 11 people on crew,
right? And then so we get there and my
assignment time on Sunday was two to five PMI could be inside
Mar a Lago to start setting up the wiring crossing at the
library at the library bar. At least that like so that the
next day we just go in and we run stream tests all day.
So I get there at like 130. And so when you get a Mar a
Lago, there's like a parking lot where you have to go around and
you have to go into like this through ID check and then a big
ass tent with like dogs and like, you know, Secret Service,
HSI bomb squad share, like everyone's there, like all the
three letter agency. And and then I'm there and as
they get in there, so my truck goes first, the van with the
equipment, we're second. And all of a sudden Secret
Service comes to us like they have these like big jackets of
Secret Service and like, are you law enforcement?
Like no, he's like black, please back away.
They were very calm and parked on the side there.
So we're parking. Then we're parking for half an
hour. I get a call from Zach.
I was like, Yo, are you OK? I'm like, yeah, I'm OK.
Like what's going on is like, is there do people around you like
seem like stressed or like really like like on tell them
no, everybody's really calm here.
What's going on? He's like, well, don't say
anything. There may have been shooting
like what? That we heard a sniper rifle
shot. I'm like, what do you mean?
He's like, and also don't tell anyone because we can't have the
sleep because I would have been the source because I knew.
So then Zach and Chase get there in their cars.
They also get pushed back because there was at this point,
I'm seeing cars come in, come in like ghost cars.
They're all FBI whatever, 1/2, 3456789101520 fucking cars like
1 by 1. And it's like all the different
departments, right? And I'm like, OK, something is
going on. And so we're we're just sitting
in the apartment for 40 minutes and they come in and they'll
just so you know, there was an assassination attempt on the
president. He was in the golfer Steve
Witkoff. And the way we know that is
because Zach Witkoff was talking to Zach and Chase.
It was like, yo, my dad just called me and like he said they
were shooting at us. Look what the fuck?
He's like, yo, don't say. And at this point still I can't
say anything. Nowhere, not in the voice chat,
nothing ruggedly like none of that, right?
None of because none of this could leak.
Now all of a sudden I get a notification.
Walter Bloomberg, you know that D1 account?
That's when I was like, holy shit.
And that's why you saw that clip of me going back to the car.
The guy was still filming me and he was like, yo, there was an
assassination and Donald Trump. So that's what happened.
So we were there on the premises, Mando and then we
stayed there like another 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
And you know, the the executives and say, Hey, come back at 4:00
PM. So we went to eat quickly, like
The Four Seasons down the street.
We had lunch and then at 4:00 PM, like we're closing the
premises and this is where like, fuck is the universe still going
to happen? And then they were like, come
back tomorrow at 9:30 AM. So for me, like, for you guys,
like on on the outside, everybody thought this was off.
But for me internally, I was never told no.
That's the craziest thing, that they never told me this is not
happening, or they never told me this may not happen.
It was always a yes, always a yes.
And not only that, word on the street is that Donald Trump was
actually very excited, called them and said three times how
excited it was to do this interview.
And I'm sure we'll get in the details of that.
And it was never a question for him not to pull up the next day.
Never. It was like, that was the
coolest part of it all. So yeah, Mando I me too.
I was like, fuck, I did all this thing, but it was never in the
cards for me that it was going to be a no.
So I was never really like worried about.
I just think you've had, you've had some bad luck with this sort
of stuff before. I remember you went to Florida
previously to interview the board 8 founders.
You remember that time and then. Literally that week.
Gordon left and I was like, oh, he's going to be, he's going to
be caught up by this. Like when it was so close, but
then I was shocked, like the next day when you said told me
it was still on, I was like, this is going to be unbelievably
big. It's an interview now.
Yeah. The timing was incredible.
Also, I mean, he he cancelled his talk to a podcast so that
that was one of their first announcements on Monday.
I think was he was cancelling on that, which also like LED people
to think, Oh, well, who knows what's if he's going to come on
the the cryptopod that interview, but.
I mean, that was, that was fire. I mean, it looked like, you
know, got to give credit to to the man.
I mean, he, he's just, he's just unstoppable.
You know, he just, he just, he just goes.
And so we, what's he like? He's really cool.
Phone. Phone keeps going.
Sorry. There you go.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's it's it's been a lot. What's he like?
He honestly was super chill. So here's what here's what
happening. Like you guys will probably see
in the in the videos and stuff. So that was the most surreal
thing ever. So we're on set, we're setting
up. All of a sudden my camera guy
frees us. He's in the room, he's in the
room. He's like, what do you mean in
the room? We're just in the back.
I'm not even dressed yet. I'm still just in my in my short
sleeved shirt and shit. And I'm chilling like, you know,
doing my thing because we had a backroom in the ballroom and
like we had everyone like 30 people in there anyways, So he
walks in. I don't want to stay with who
because I don't know if it's out yet or public.
So he walks in with like one of the richest men on earth, all my
set and I'm like, what the fuck? Like this is like this is him.
He's right there. He's next to me, doesn't look at
he was so and actually realized that he was so focused on his
guest. He didn't look at anyone around,
just focused on him talking like it's almost like we didn't
exist. She's kind of awesome.
And then and then went back and had lunch with him.
And then then this is where like it's like 730 PMI get changed.
I get ready. I'm like peak stressed, peek in
my head, peek everybody breathing down my neck, tell me
how to do my job or what I should do or how we should start
or how it would happen. Like it was like, you
understand, like since it was a big programming, like it was
like 10 people set to come on stage, plus like a little bit of
an entourage was like everybody was on top of me, right?
Then you had like this guy with like Donald Trump's account
logged into his computer and everything and like, how does
this work? And then on the other line, I
was like, this guy's like, yo, Baron wants to talk to you and
how we'll do something. I've Baron on one line.
I have the guy with the computer become TikTok Jack.
That's what Donald Trump said. It was funny with Donald Trump.
It was a serial like I've buried on one line explaining how he
can come in on the spaces and and it didn't working sadly,
because it's too complicated that Donald Trump's account on
the other hand, and then I start the space.
This guy was like go, go, go, start now, start now like we got
we got to make sure it works. And at the same time, I have
someone I think from X in the room and 30 minutes before, like
you, you can't broadcast this live on video.
You're going to break the platform like we're they they
were worried that we're going to break the whole platform if we
do live like we're doing now, audio and video at the same
time. And so I couldn't do it.
And so actually that ended up being better because we're going
to post a video and now it's going to be even bigger.
But but anyways, I start the Twitter spaces and and all of a
sudden this man comes in the room and you saw that in the
short, last short video. I post this pill on my profile.
He goes farouq and I'm like, yes, he's like, I need you to
come with me. I'm like, I can't, I'm like, I
can't. Like, I just started to tour his
spaces. I can't come because I had like
20 people trying to come on stage.
She's like, I need you to come now.
And that's what I understood. It's like, this is a president
who has talked to you. Like, you come now, right.
So I go back to the room where that other person I just walked
out of and. And he's looking at me.
Oh, it's a young man, like somebody like, yeah, it's a
young man here. And he looks at me and goes,
we're going to have fun and shakes my hand.
And that was the most soothing moment of the day for me.
That is when I and then we get in the interview.
So that's when Don junior leads us stunt junior, Donald Trump
myself, we just walked in, but we need to do a slow motion
video if that's like many men or something.
But anyways, we walk in and this is where it starts.
So I tell Donald Trump he has to sit.
That's all I said and you can tell us a professional he goes.
So how many cameras we have? Cam one, Cam 2, Cam 3, Cam 4.
This one's two shot. He knew better than the fucking
people setting up the set how this work.
He was sick and he's there, he's calm, he's composed and you know
how at the beginning I had to make AI made the disclaimer,
whatever, but then beginning I had a little like opening
speech, but I was so stressed out guys like I was so stressed.
I was shaking at this because I have Donald Trump staring me
down right in front of me. I know we're about to go live.
There's 150,000 people live on Twitter spaces waiting for me to
hit the unmute button, right. And as I do that, I had to read
it because I couldn't even look at Donald Trump and tell him how
grateful I was for being there. And it wasn't a complicated
read. It was just me saying opening
the damn thing. And so I'm looking at him and
he's staring me down. And while everybody in the world
was saying that, he would stare me down like in a scary way.
I don't know how to explain this.
It's it's going to come off like a rewind.
I know a lot of you won't believe me.
He stared me down in a way that actually soothed me in common
account like a a father, like telling his child like just
chill is going to be OK. Like he because he knew I was
freaking out. He knew I'm like really young
and everything in this first time he he knew this was like a
make or break moment for my life.
So he looked at me, Mando like like.
He didn't give you the power handshake.
He didn't come in. No, no, no, even when he shook
my hand outside, he shook my hand like this is going to be
fun. And he he called three times to
say how excited he was day off to do this interview about
crypto and everything like he actually really, really enjoys
it. So all that to say, my
experience with him and how he was, he was really fucking cool
dude. Like he was nice, he was
respectful, he was kind. And I do want to say like the
entire experience there, his assistants, his team, you know
how like I'm kind of the little guy there.
Like I was, oh, who's this crypto bro?
Like I look like everyone just saying he's just who's this Faro
guy? Everyone is like trying to shit
on me, by the way. So it's like, but they weren't
like the team, the people, the Mar a Lago staff, Secret
Service, HSI. You think that there be scary
guys with like a bunch of guns trying Who's this kid trying to
get? Not at all, dude.
They were super kind, super positive, very nice to me,
accommodating Eric Trump called me before the interview and
confirmed that I could be me, do my thing 'cause that's first.
I was scared. Like how do I ask my questions?
How do I I convey them and stuff like what can I say?
What can I say? Eric Trump was like, bro, like
just go for it. Like do your thing, do it well.
And Don Junior was super fucking chill.
We actually went and got dinner after that.
But I don't know, like it was, it was a good experience.
Donald Trump was awesome. And at the end, you know, give
me a big, that big. It was after the power
handshake, Mando, when we finished power handshake bat on
the back, you know, and he was like good job, you did great,
very professional and and we went off.
So yeah, it was great. Makes sense.
I mean he he's a professional at this and also like it's in his
interest for you to to be calm. Like he wants the interview to
go well too. Like he doesn't want you to to
fumble or or beat like this. So it makes sense for him to.
I thought I was going to fumble for a hot 2nd.
Did so did you like how scripted were you like?
Did you have to submit like all your questions beforehand?
You know, curious about about all that with how like.
The interview went down the, the, the, the, I, I wrote
everything like my questions, like internally we worked on it
obviously like we're, that's what we do best.
So I, I prepared everything. Obviously like you have to
submit your shit because that's just how it is.
But by the way, like you, you can work like a small time
celebrity and they'll still ask you to, to submit your stuff,
even like a lot of company owners and and crypto do that.
So just so people know, it's not like it's not like, oh, Donald
Trump must use your questions at all.
They just want to know that you're not going to throw a
curveball at him, like or be the kind of anywhere that you have
Donald Trump on air, because they don't know me, right?
It's not like I've done TV before.
So they think about they have they have no idea what to expect
from me, right? They don't know if I'm coming
and I'm going to say ask this, but I'm going to trick him or
this or that, right? Which I obviously didn't.
And I was never going to don't want to burn the bridge.
But yeah, I just submitted my stuff.
And dude, they, they like Eric reviews and stuff.
Like they didn't even touch myself up.
Like they, they let me do my thing.
You know, they, they suggested things and they suggested other
things, but they didn't, you know, like, like I said, the
process was great. Like everybody was cool with me.
It was a big deal. It was a lot.
It's like you, you could have thrown a curveball and he would
have had to have responded. Yeah, live.
So there is a lot of trust. Yeah, there's a lot of trust.
I had to pass a lot of trust tests leading up to that.
Like as a listener, so I was listening to the whole thing.
I was one of the 1st on the spaces.
It was incredibly smooth. So like even like the 5 minutes
that you were all you did. And I was thinking like this is
going to crash. Like it's definitely going to
crash at least once. But I think it got out to an
incredibly smooth start, just like a 5 minute delay and then
you were into it. Any what were your first hand
reactions from like the the, I think Trump in the you and him
you talking to him for about 25 minutes, I'd say.
Yeah, it was. The total interview is 32
minutes. OK, you know, what were your
like? Did you have a chance to even
kind of like internalize what he was saying at all?
His responses to nothing. 00 Not that.
Not until I watched the interview yesterday.
Actually, I lived the moment yesterday for the first time
when I was rewatching all the footage.
Like yesterday. You should see me in the hotel
lobby. I got all four camera footage.
It's like 20 gigs of videos and Sims is like, dude, I have
shavers. I'm like, what do you mean?
He's like, you have to watch this.
I'm like what? I started rewatching the raw
footage of all the stories. I'm telling you.
We have it on raw. Me going to see Trump before 20
people trying to get on the spaces starting the space me
reading the ad read, I'm very sorry the the disclaimers.
It's not we have at all meet with Trump during this.
Like The thing is, I was so focused because I had to
orchestrate a massive show. Like people don't realize I
orchestrated a 2 1/2 hour show with like 8 different guests and
we had to switch him over because it was President Trump
then who it was Steve Witkoff. I mean dude, I also interviewed
Steve Witkoff like dude like he is so fucking cool by the way.
So Steve Witkoff and then Eric Trump and then Don Junior and
then I'm told Baron really wants to be on because he really
cares, right? It was a family affair.
Sally didn't work out. But it's like I had no time to
live the moment or to actually even appreciate enjoy it or like
I said, I had no time to stress. I had no time to even fuck this
up. So I actually lived the moment
for the first time yesterday. Tyler, we got the final footage
of the interview and guys, it is so good.
I mean, I, I saw what a lot of people thought because I got a
lot of like, I'm really grateful by the way for the community.
Like a lot of people like listening here, like I got maybe
23000 messages. Like it's been really positive.
Like it's, I see what they saw now.
Like that interview was fire. It's good.
Yeah, I think it was the deepest that Trump got into actually
talking about crypto and he he talked about M TS and he talked
about what what you know, your question about what surprised
him and it seemed like it was a pretty genuine answer and
perhaps like even an eye opening for him about, you know, how
people are actually use crypto's money and how fast it it can all
happen. And then when you got into to
the discussion with his sons and whatnot, like they clearly have
an understanding of of the issues in the space they do they
they clearly spent some time. They're deep, they're deep,
they're all deep. I mean, hey, they didn't, didn't
Donald Trump said Barons for wallets.
I thought it was a funny, I think CT loved that one, didn't
they? Right.
That was where the the most quotable.
Is it like Baron's got to be like one of the most popular,
like people and, and on CT, right?
Like I think everyone's waiting for the Baron Trump interview.
I'll, I'll try and work on that. It would be really cool.
I got to speak to him briefly before that and he really got a
Baron Trump. Interview.
For sure I know he really wanted to be on it was like it was cool
that it was a family affair by the way, I thought that was
really cool. But Eric Trump actually really
knows this shit. I was chatting, I was shooting
shit with him before that in the backroom like he's he was there
for like 2 hours before you know these guys are these guys are
pretty deep and defined and Don Junior and he loves crypto and
stuff like that. So but you've heard him talk
about it before a lot. But I feel like we haven't heard
of Eric Trump actually we've never really heard of him.
I know he came towards the end of the interview.
So we also going to cut my conversation with him and post
it later, but I think I think a lot of people underestimate how
much he actually knows about it all he actually like.
They're all very involved though.
Makes sense. I mean, that's one of the
takeaways I I had from listening is I don't know that they didn't
go into tremendous depth about what the world liberty financial
protocol is. I think we, we, we walk away
thinking it's it's defy. They're focused on stable coins
and liquidity. It seems like there's likely
going to be some sticking in the yield aspect.
There's likely going to be this this lending aspect of it.
And they're very focused on on boarding and trying to make it
easy to use. Yeah, yeah, that's more of a, a
focus on, on the masses. No A. 100%, that's their focus.
Look, we'll see. We'll see how how it all goes
down. I know for a fact that they're
going to, they're going to roll out more stuff.
It's just like they're probably limited into like what they can
share and when, right? So you know how it works when it
comes to to crypto. And it's also some pretty big
name involved. So they've they're like walking
on. I mean, we're, I can say because
they joked about it while live on air, but like there was dead
like 2 lawyers right on my behind left shoulder, like in
the backroom staring down Zack and chasing shit and, and stuff
like that. So this is how, I mean, that's
the game. I mean, even us trying to build
rock radio and that's why we talked about it and how crypto
in America needs to be adopted because like we also run into
problems, right? Like you run a crypto company in
America and automatically like you kind of like treated like a
criminal. So it's like you, you got to
like, you know, you were all walking on like egg shells here
when it comes to running crypto companies.
Hopefully that changes. But I can tell you like, you
know, I, I was really impressed, man.
Like when you got, when you think about Donald Trump, like
think about your parents, right? Like how old our parents are and
stuff like Donald Trump's what, 78 years old, right?
The thing is 78 like what people expected him to talk about what
defy looping on Ave. like Ethereum looping on.
I don't know what Eric did and as he should and he should know
that shit like Donald Trump should just know what he knows
and and and it was great And and you can tell that he he's he's
generally curious. Now.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I sat across from the man and that was
my read. Yeah, I I think that was my read
too listening and it probably passed my expectations.
Like I didn't expect him to be the like, he's not the dev for
world liberty financial. Like what did you think?
Like his level of involvement was, was going to be.
And I think we got more answers out of him and more chatter than
we, we would expected. What, what was your take on the
level of depth the team got into?
So you, you, you kept trying to press him and like you did a
good job managing. Like it was a 2 hour interview
plus it was a revolving door. Like people were popping out to
go on Fox. They're popping out to go on
Hannity. There was a Fox.
There was a. Fox fan parked outside and they
were taking turns on going on Fox.
Yeah, I came across just listening to the spaces, how
like it was this revolving door. I think you kept trying to like
drill in like so like what's the vision?
How's it going to work? How are you going to keep it
secure? I think you got some good
answers. Perhaps not the incredible
depth, but I'm curious for your for your take.
Drill, baby, drill, right. I love that.
I love. The drill baby drill.
We were joking about that too. Look like they they look.
I asked my questions and and they answered to the best of
their abilities that they could answer.
And and I know for a fact that, you know, they're going to
they're going to come out with more stuff because we asked them
right, like, hey, like, you know, when they're going to be
able to share this and that like they were able to share that was
Reg S, Reg D and that was like registered with like the SEC
etcetera. So I think they answered good
questions. The biggest question that they
that was left unanswered was or before the interview was like
that 70% insiders that went out, which clearly was I really want
to clear that out because that's also something that people kept
coming at me for before the interview.
I knew before the interview, obviously, because I did my
research and I had to have them corroborate like everything with
me before, right? But, but I, I didn't want to
leak anything. So it's like I knew.
It's like while people were tweeting like, Oh, you're going
to go host this thing. That's all.
No, dude, like I know, like I, I know this is not a fact.
I know numbers. I know it wasn't a fact.
So I'm glad they cleared that out.
Now the rest it's going to be it's just going to be a waiting
game And and I know that, you know, they're all in now.
So you're going to see you're going to see a lot come out
soon. I think they did good.
Like honestly, I, I again like they, they were well spoken.
Like I know it was Chase spoke a little bit, but it was Mickey,
mainly Zach Folkman talking about talking about this.
And I thought it was extremely well spoken and he did really
good. I, I really fuck with this guy.
Like he was really like the one who put me on and, and helped
with everything. So it's great.
And what's happened in the aftermath?
Like who's been? Who's in your DMS at the moment?
Everyone, even the people that wrote really mean stuff about me
are my DMS right now. And I'm telling them all to go
and write nice things like I, I don't understand, like the day
before the interview, you're literally trying to go viral off
my name and, and shitting on rug radio, a little college radio
station in their words. And then they're in my DM saying
that I did really good. So I'm like, hey, why don't you
tweet that? So there's that.
Sorry. About that, yeah, I shouldn't.
I shouldn't have. No, in the DMS.
I mean, you know, a lot of the big news sites and media
stations, a lot of the big crypto influencers or whatever
you want to call it, a lot of the people that counted this out
or thought that you. Gained like 60K followers it
seems. That's.
Over one on fantasy top like you are just for Roque is back his
main character. Did did did.
That was like, that was not a side quest, that was a main
quest. You know what I mean?
Like that was crazy fantasy. Honestly, I have to say fantasy
top #1 is what made me the most happy.
The first You guys want something funny.
You guys want something funny. Before I checked how many
followers I gained, I checked fantasy top to see if I I did.
I did. I checked finally talked to
check if I was number 1 and I saw a screenshot of me posted
that was number one. Like let's go, let's go.
And by the way, you can expect me to stay on top of that
leaderboard because going to post the interview next.
Got. You've got to fucking do a tweet
about that main character. Main character achieved.
I know, but The thing is, Mendel, you know what happens to
the main character, like you, you don't want to be the main
character, right? Like we've been there, we've
done that. You know, I was telling Mendel
and Obi before, like the interview.
I was like, I was really happy in my cocoon.
Like I've been more like builder mode.
This this art, this, this cycle. Like not the guy that's out
there. You know, I'm letting like
threat guy and all these guys like the the new way, whatever,
take the shots, take the hits. But like this like put me in
front of everyone again. And that there was a point where
like, I actually like kind of like really a lot of panic
leading up to it, Like not before, like the in Montreal.
When I got to Florida, I calmed down a bit because Palm Beach
was actually soothing. And I went alone, by the way, I
went solo, like no fiance, nothing.
I just went solo on purpose because I feel like it's
something I need to do alone. You know, I, I didn't want to
have anyone next to me at all. And but it was, but it was.
But I guess now we're back in the spotlight and, you know, we
have some big shit coming up. So I'm already lining #2 right
now I'm trying to align interview #2 to I think I'm
going to bring back the faroque interview art, you know, I'm
bringing back. You got to get Baron Man Baron's
Baron we all want to hear from. I know, I know, I may have to go
back on Sunday actually. So I have my brother's
graduation on Saturday and I may get on the 1st 6:00 AM flight
back to to to Florida on Sunday to go to that dinner.
Oh really? The one that TG paid to spend
all that money for. Yeah, we got, we got, we got, we
got 2 invites for Vanessa and I Oh my goodness.
And I was like, I was like, should I go?
I'm like don't. Do that to him.
Don't do that to him. No, it's not.
But he, yeah, he texted me to see how proud he was.
I dude, like, let's be honest. Like, I genuinely think no
matter what people want to say or not, like, I don't think they
picked the right person for this because I know how to like, like
the presidential candidate is like, you got to like.
You're an elder statesman when it comes to CT.
At this stage, I. Know right?
Well, Boomers, all the zoomers were like, Oh my God, like what?
Why is the boomer getting the interview?
I'm like probably because I'm a boomer, but how crazy is that?
You're 28 years old. I'm 30 now.
Actually, Sir, How crazy is that?
I turned 30. I turned 30 Saturday.
And then the Saturday after, I'm in the room with Donald Trump
and actually told him that. And he was like, oh, young man.
And I was like, fuck yeah, dude, let's go.
Oh, my God. So I feel like I have to go back
for that dinner because like it's like 100 or 200 people
dinner and I feel like pulling up there.
I'm kind of like the guy that I interviewed him, you know, I
mean, like, gotta go, like gotta go.
So I may have to go back all the way to Florida and everything.
But it was, you know what's funny, the night of we all went
after to dinner, Don Junior came with us and a bunch of the guys
on the team and then they all laughed at like midnight and the
bar closed at one. I was like, now that everybody's
gone, I just want to have a drink like without anyone around
me. And so I, I ordered things.
I so the people next to him, like, by the way, everybody
loves them. They're right.
Like it's their town. Like they're like super duper
found. Like they had Dungeoner sign a
Budweiser bottle for them, like everything.
Like they would come and take selfies with him.
And then they were like, oh, you're the kid that ended with
Donald Trump. They would buy me drinks and
asking for my autograph in Palm Beach.
So like, they would buy me margaritas and like, and like,
and like, you know, asking for my autograph and everything.
So I thought, I thought that was hilarious.
ANYWAYS, that's actually I just realized we're 40 minutes in.
I know I'm doing wrecked radio. Probably going to talk about
similar stuff or about how successful or trader I am.
Also the best trader on CT, by the way.
Can't wait to wreck radio after that.
But but yeah, so that was that was that.
I don't know if we covered it all, but yeah.
This is a life changing moment. I've said it to you then like it
really is life changing. You'll always have that now on
the CV and it was a serious interview, the first interview
after his second, his second assassination that just
ratcheted up even further so. I mean, we've been gathering all
the news from around the world on it because a lot of people
are covering it and it's just crazy.
Like they're all leading back to it.
A lot of people don't want to give credit back to like the rug
radio channel and stuff because it's media versus media.
But like, hey, you know, it's fire.
You don't want to think that's crazy.
Elon was trying to come up. Yes, that's that's what I
thought was happening. It was, but I would I didn't
have my phone. The phone that I had in front of
me was not the phone because the road cast was across the room.
So Sandra was on. There was too many requests.
We can see it. One thing that was crazy before
walking in, it was Don Junior, Donald Trump and I before
walking in, Donald Trump goes and it's him calling Elon Musk.
I was like, what the fuck? Like, you see, like, it's stuff
like this, like shit that you like as a kid, you would never
expect to be in a room at Donald Trump's, like estate with him,
him calling Elon Musk, right? Like the crazy.
Like the the second closest thing I had to that was like me
hanging out with Snoop Dogg while Tiffany Haddish was there
when he was on the phone with Paris Hilton.
But that doesn't even compare, you know what I mean?
Really. That's one.
For the grandkids for sure. There's one for the grandkids.
So we did it and the photos came out nice, right?
You guys like my suit? Did I pick the right suit?
I like the suit. I like the suit.
I don't. I only ever see you in suits at
weddings so. I know.
I mean, I might hang that photo in my house.
Fine, it's. Just an incredible 1 The the one
the the seated photos, the one that's the the main photo of the
event. It's.
Yeah, by the way, where did that photo come from?
Because everybody had a photo of me and Trump before I even
posted one. I assumed someone from your the
production group posted it. I'd probably see it in the
morning. I didn't know who'd done it.
No. Anyways, it was, it was surreal,
it was fun. The videos leading up to it were
great. And now we going to post a video
interview today. Like Lydia is going live on my
channel today. And I think there's a there's a
solid chance that Donald Trump posted himself.
So the show goes on, lads, the show goes on.
You know, the the team, team worked.
I do want to give a big shout out to my team like Sims was on
call the entire time stressing out and the whole thing, running
the whole thing from the UK Nello and that crew.
So we lost four men by the way, we were down four people walking
in. So we were at skeleton team.
So I only had five crew in the end, 4 crew present there and we
had the incident the day before which means that we had to set
up test stream and prepare all in the same day.
So we were at Mar a Lago on Sunday from 10:00 AM to 11:00
PM. Right.
And I forgot to eat, so I had to have someone run out and get us
some food and some cables broke and everything was crazy because
you can't Uber Eats food tomorrow, Lago.
And the chef is not there because offseason.
And the chef only cooks for President Trump.
It was a lot like I had a guy bring me like a little like
Cliff Bar so I could like, stay alive.
It was it was it was great. Yeah.
Anyways, that's that. Should we get into the market?
Yeah. If you want.
To if you want to. I think it's kind of, yeah.
I don't know. Do do we want to get into stuff?
I mean, we maybe we like maybe for the last 10 minutes of it
when we do a little market report, just so people know,
because I mean, of course, there's a lot of new followers,
a lot of people that are going to be new to their show.
Now we also show Monday to Friday, Mando, you know, our
fearless great Mando usually goes through all the market
report, probably the best market report you'll get on, on, on CT
every single morning for the 1st 1050 minutes of the show.
We usually don't ramble for 40 minutes before starting and
Tyler, Tyler on the best people when it comes to like gathering
all the news of the day before gives us his Daily News, daily
topics and we and then we talk about it and we also tend to
give money away. So tomorrow, Thursday and
Friday, we'll be giving money away a lot of it.
We're probably going to hit $1,000,000 mark this week.
So stay tuned. Follow us.
Follow our rug radio, myself, Mando and Tyler.
See, I'm giving away some money this this month you're giving.
Away 12 days. $1.00 for every subscriber.
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So yeah, man to minutes.com, just go subscribe.
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I love that, I love that. So we're nearly at $1,000,000 so
far giving away and we'll give it a lot away.
So I can't wait for it. By the way, did you guys like
the shout out? I was asleep during the whole
thing, but I woke up to it all. So I, I actually, because it
was, it started like 1:30 my time and I went, I went to
sleep. But but yeah, I, I listened
back, back through it. It was, it was cool, cool.
OSF got one too. Yeah, I had to had to give.
I had to try to sneak all the boys into the into the shout
out. But anyways, Mando, there was
FOMC this morning or FOMC today. FOMC is today.
Yeah, we're doing the music. Or should I just go straight in?
You know what you want, the music I know you do hold.
On I don't know, I just don't want to stop who.
Is the man Michael Daddy of the land?
Can you dig it? Yeah, so as Farouq said, it is
FOMC day today. It's actually one of the the
most uncertain Fomc's ever. Very, very rarely do you have a
5050 split. And what's going to happen here?
It looks like people are debating whether it's going to
be 25 bits, 50 bits. I would still ear on the side of
25 bits, but you know, inflation is coming down very, very
quickly at the moment in the US Oil is getting absolutely
hammered. They may decide to do 50 bits,
one of the one of the like the Hawks on the Fed.
But Ballard came out today and said only 25 bits is needed.
So I don't know. But yeah, you'll see a lot of
volatility I think going into that FOMC today.
It will really be about what he says in the press conference
too. So expect, expect like Darth
Maulwick's right up, down, up, like people will get aptly
liquidated on this one. I do think if he does 25 bits,
he'll be super, super dovish because he'll need to be and
probably give forward, forward guidance that you're going to
probably going to see rate cuts in the dot plots for many, many
successive Fomcs here. So it will be dovish.
It's just the extent that he's going to be dovish, 50 BPS might
make people a little bit unsure, like maybe they'll be scared
about the economy. 25 BPS, he'll get criticized for being too
late. He's going to get criticized
whatever he does here. In my opinion, he should have
cut rates a few months ago and now he's going to get criticized
whatever he does. So expect that's the commentary
to come out. We haven't yet seen a recession.
It's more still kind of soft landing with with quite a lot of
the metrics. But also there's a lot of
uncertainty about these metrics this year.
A lot of them seem to be prime for the election anyway.
So crypto Bitcoin dominance has really been the thing that's
that's grown. So you've got Bitcoin dominance
now heading towards 60%, I think hit 59% roughly overnight.
Yeah. So breaking out to new highs 58
remember there had been a multi multi year point of resistance
and support. We seem to be breaking out to
the upside there. There's nothing really new has
happened in terms of the other chains.
Obviously Solana has break point next week and there's a lot of
bullishness going into that, but I think a lot of positioning as
well of bullishness going into that.
And we've seen obviously some of the activity has has been dying
down, particularly meme coins. There was a stat loss yesterday,
which I saw, which is over the last two weeks, only two pumped
up fun meme coins have even reached 200 grand.
So oh, real, real. The trenches.
The trenches are not looking too healthy at the moment.
If there was some flood today, mainly just because Vidalic's up
on stage at 2049. Bullish though the Vidalic
singing is bullish, no? Who knows, You know, it's one of
these things where the price looks worse.
Everything looks worse when the price price goes lower.
So if he's singing, if if he's at 10K and he's singing, he's a
he's a genius. You know that that's my that's
my guy. If it's if it's barely holding
onto 2K and he's singing, everyone's like he's lost it.
So there was a bit of that this morning.
Actually, I went borrow for one of my like my memes that wasn't
expecting this morning on on the back of that.
But yeah, definitely some fart around ETH at the moment.
It's all the same stuff. So just L1 versus L twos.
In terms of other L ones which are doing well, like Sui and
Phantom, those are the two to watch.
They're both about 50% in the last month each.
Sui's breaking out, I think to again, new local highs again
today. It's still down quite a bit from
its cycle high or at least this cycle high.
So people are looking at it there.
They they announced, I think USDC is going to now be
available on Sui. And obviously I got the
Grayscale Trust last week. Phantoms more story around the
Sonic upgrade which is going to be coming.
They are, they are. They are seeing some very fast
transaction speeds on Phantom. On the back of that they're more
show me stories like more opium style stories.
I think both of them, maybe Siri's a bit more substantial
than Phantom, but it's enough for people to buy into and a lot
of money which is flowing out of ETH.
At least you can see on chain is is flowing into things like Siri
and Phantom Solana's that 128 level.
We've we've kind of held onto that for a long, long time.
It would be, it would be not great if we broke down below
that level for, for Solana. It's been like a multi month
area of support and we've been kind of hovering around it for a
little bit here. So definitely getting people a
little bit more wary on, on that one.
That's it kind of in the majors. I think just expect some
volatility today. All coins, like I said, Phantom
Ensuia are, are leading meme coins.
I think Tyler can probably talk about that, but there's only
really been one which has gone absolutely crazy and and
everything else has been a little bit quiet.
All right. Well, that's a good market right
away, Tyler. I mean, I know we're going down
close down on time, but let's still hear what you got for us
today. NFT and crypto analysis Tyler D
on FOMO our cause the kids. Can I'll try to give a quick
multi day recap. High level you didn't really
miss a ton. A few macro tidbits, just adding
on to Mandos. So the amount of Bitcoin on
exchanges has hit multi year lows, lowest since 2020.
There's 4 bitcoins left with TC. Just about and Michael Sanders
trying to buy them all so he he's looking to do another
convertible debt offering to buy upwards of 800 million more
worth of Bitcoin. So he's still buying.
We saw each Bitcoin hit new lows and the meme St. it's all about
Nero. So I don't know if you saw this
Binance listed a lower, a lower market cap Nero token on E.
You know, there's several of these in three days, it shot
UP22X. It's now at $350 million market
cap. It's the second biggest meme on
ETH now behind Pepe. It flipped mog in in this.
It's one of the craziest 3 day rounds I've ever seen for a meme
coin. It seems like everyone's been on
the sidelines for it. So it's this is a very
interesting story, kind of why how I got the listing.
None of us really know. There's another meme coin news
Frank D gods on Sunday. Those of us in the US, we woke
up to D gods launching a meme coin.
It's effectively they're kind of turning their product into this.
It's like a hybrid four O 4. You can burn your utes or dust
for the D God meme coin. And then the D gods NFTS are
convertible 11. There's there's a ratio, but
like 1D God equals 550,000 of the D got tokens and we can get
into more of the details on that later.
Base had a little bit of a rough weekend.
They they banned the holders of this kimono khaki NFT from
discord ahead downstream impacts where anyone who held those were
were kicked out of effectively all the other discords they were
in. Some of them were like discord
mods. So so they caught some flood for
that, though it seems to be blowing over.
We saw fly fish club Gary Vees like restaurant NFT.
They settled with the SEC after allegations of selling
unregistered securities. How?
Much for the settlement. I think 1.9 million.
Whoa. So.
I heard it was less than that. Is it 1.9 million?
I saw 7 and 50K but maybe I was wrong.
I thought I saw 1.9. I'd have to go back to to the
story. I don't have the the numbers on
hand with me that that's that's the one in my head.
We saw good luck. Garyvee, right?
Good luck. Garyvee came in, pumped up NFTS
and then is the first time to settle with the SEC to call them
all securities God. Damn it.
We're all screwed. Thank you it.
Feels like the SEC continues to be on a warpath.
I think every day this week there's been a headline of a
settlement or a new target. Jesus Christ.
From them, So it seems like it headed into the election cycle.
Perhaps they are they're ramping things up in case of any
changes. That's pretty much it.
Magic Eden introduced a new AFT launchpad called Magic Mocha in
partnership with with Anna Mocha brands.
It's going to help funnel their pipeline and NT products.
And then another meme. Corn News Iggy Azalea, she
pulled out of the the debate against Eric Wall.
Did she pull out or who She pulled out?
So she she posted about it basically, she wasn't, she
wanted to throw a curveball and do this like dance routine and
then for whatever reason they wouldn't let it happen.
And then why don't? You want to do a dance routine?
Isn't this supposed to be a debate?
To make it more entertaining. Yeah, I think she wanted to
like, they had like dancers coming on stage.
I think he was going to get like a lap dance and they were hoping
for it to make it go viral. I think, to be honest, I'd
rather watch that than than Izzy Azalea versus Eric Hall.
But I don't really know. I don't know what to make of it.
I think there was a betting market on it as well.
So there was some impacts and she said that she'd call it Eric
and Eric was on board with it, but apparently other folks,
other powers would be. I'm sure Eric was on board with
it. I don't think Eric was really
complaining there. But in a few minutes, pull up a
few charts. If you can, pull up the Nero
chart on. The which one?
If you just filter by market cap, you'll see it.
It's the one that's at 359 million.
What? This is one of the wildest
stories, so obviously there was the higher priced Nero coin.
Well. Which one is it?
Yeah, exactly. Because remember they were
originally they were the Solana Nero coins which everyone was
like, oh, it's the CTO of a not this was the ETH CTO and finance
had to come out and actually defend what they did here
because they said that this this one passed their they have like
4 tests they said. And the other Nero coin didn't
pass the test seemingly that it was maybe 2 insider controlled.
That's what the Binance CEO came out and said this because
obviously this is a big deal, right?
Like when you list, this is the easily one of the lowest coins
that Binance has ever listed. But why was it listed in the 1st
place? Even if it was in control?
Like, it's like a new, new coin. It shouldn't be on there, right?
I guess Nero, Nero has like has a stake to be one of the bigger
claims to being a dog, a coin this cycle, right?
There's been a lot of different Neros.
Finance has basically decided that this one's the one.
So weirdly, Justin Sun was in favor of this one.
Which again, like Justin Sun, I just don't know, man.
I just feel like he's involved. OK.
So and it killed the other Nero. So we, we, we've been, we've
been talking about the other Nero on this show.
What? I, I just sent you the link.
It had like this wild in chart. So it soared, it sold off, it
soared again, and then now it's selling off again because it
didn't get the finance listing. So like a brutal.
Chart SO. Now.
It's. Like, oh, wow, I guess the new
rewards are back. Great.
Yeah. Yes, that was basically all
that's really happened and then people just dunking on each
other for ETH, Solana, Bitcoin. Not a lot happening.
There was some stuff about prediction markets as well.
Feels like feels like the CFTC is still still circling even
though they've lost these recent court cases.
Of course they're going to. Yeah, they're going to keep on
trying. And what else is there?
No, I think that was it. I think Wintermute also launched
a prediction market. Yes, but they know they're
launching coins right on Donald Trump and Kamal Harris.
It's like both. So it's a new prediction market.
It's called an outcome market. And then the way you bet is you
you you get these coins. So there's a Trump coin and a
Harris coin, but apparently you can also use those in like defy
across ETH and ARB drum and then limitless also raise money to
build a prediction market on base.
So we have a couple couple prediction market stories.
Love it. Love it.
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