1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,640 Yo-yo, yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:08,520 Good morning. Good morning GMG Woo. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Wednesday, October 9th, 20244444 Look at that another beautiful 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,480 day to have a beautiful day. I got my coast in the house. 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Tyler Mando how you guys doing today? 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Good morning. Good man. 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,800 We're viming. How are you busy morning. 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,600 We're vibing. We're vibing. 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,760 We're vibing hard. We're vibing very, very hard. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,920 You know, turns out we had Satoshi on the show yesterday 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,760 and he was doxxed overnight. So so it's pretty crazy that 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,080 that Satoshi Nakamoto was on FOMO hour. 13 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:49,400 I'm not going to lie. Tyler, how are you doing today? 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,560 I'm good. I'm recovering from the Satoshi 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,080 bombshell revealed by HBO, their Bitcoin propaganda department. 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 They have apparently so on Steph. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Can we, should we just just talk about this for a minute here? 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,920 So what ended up happening because I just went to bed. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,080 I, I, I tweeted yesterday. Am I the only person that 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,080 doesn't care about this? It appears that the entire space 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,680 seem to agree with me. Consensus was like, yeah, we'll 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,320 still watch the thing because we're curious, but we don't 23 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:17,680 really give a shit. So what ended up even happening 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,120 yesterday night? Yeah, I mean, I'll say like I 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,320 watched it it it felt like a chore going into it just because 26 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,440 there's been so much talk and then like it looked like it had 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,840 leaked. I did enjoy the documentary. 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,920 So personally I didn't, I didn't, I never kind of gone 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,480 down that rabbit hole. So I didn't know a whole lot of 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,040 that history. So I thought some of the history 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,240 was interesting. The documentary definitely had a 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,800 bit of like an anti crypto bias. You could see it in some of 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,840 their different segments and and kind of was and whatnot. 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,440 But ultimately what happened, I think they revealed Peter Todd 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,160 as Satoshi, that the core thesis a forum post that he did under 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 his username, but it looks like it's continuing a post under 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Satoshi's name. So perhaps he had both logins. 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,680 They pointed back to some of his, you know, long standing 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,000 interest in cryptography and his parents and how he was raised 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,039 and how he was doing it as a teenager, some spelling patterns 41 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:12,680 and how he how he wrote on forums. 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,320 And then the fact that he claimed to have made an expert 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,560 in sacrificing Bitcoin and and burning it and people drawing 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 the claim that he perhaps is the one who destroyed access to 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,400 Satoshi's Bitcoin. I mean, Todd is featured in the 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,360 documentary. I, I will say like in the 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,160 documentary team's like defense, Colin Hoback's defense, like a 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,160 lot of when Todd is denying it, like he, he's he, he's like 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,680 trolling through half the documentary. 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,440 He's like, of course I'm Satoshi or of course I'm not Satoshi. 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,320 He he's a kind of thing out of both both parties. 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,800 Isn't that something Satoshi would do? 53 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,240 I think that that's what the, the producer thought, right. 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,400 So I mean, I can, I can see how he got there. 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 But at the end of the day, I, I don't think the markets buy, I 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,560 don't think we believe that this is the the true. 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 It's a totally, I'm certain we haven't seen any market impact 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,760 from it. So. 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Not at all yeah it seems like we're pretty flat and we'll talk 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,760 about it all right so that's interesting look it looks like 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:15,640 it looks like it looks like it looks like we were right other 62 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,840 and multiple won the bet on on the yacht. 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,040 So Congrats, that's like almost a 10X if you had that so. 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,120 I was looking back at it. It was at 16 cents. 65 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Yeah, it was. $0.16 there you go there you go there's there's 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,840 there's a cue to listen to to to FOMO hour every day because you 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,200 know we've been we've been we're on a terrorist cycle so far in 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,720 here so we're on a tear you absolutely love to see that 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,080 anyways all right so that was so I'm sure we'll get back to that 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,280 again, but still the show today today market report as usual, 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,240 crypto macro, all that good stuff Tyler's top 100. 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,880 I have a feeling that Tyler has a lot to talk about today. 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,280 And then again, just like yesterday and every single day 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,680 for the rest of the week. Robert loot box bins. 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,880 We'll pick one lucky person that goes on raffle ball dot XYZ and 76 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,280 uses today's code, which I don't know yet, to enter the giveaway 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 so close to Milady yesterday. It would have been poetic, 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,440 honestly would have been great. But anyways, there's still a lot 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,760 of milady's in there and boy oh boy, I'm sure we'll talk about 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,560 that. But then red guy, they're 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,200 starting to fly. You know, red guy is no longer 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,920 that thing that I can use as a buffer at the bottom of the box 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,880 man though, because it's actually driving the value of 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,200 the box a little too. Yeah. 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Because like now I have to because you back then used to be 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,120 able to put like 20 red guys as buffer right? 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,320 To make 100% to win in an FT but now you guys are getting 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,920 expensive. It's $2500 for like a nearly 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360 floor red guy. So now have to find a new 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:49,840 collection to that's like sub .5 to to buffer and bring the odds 91 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:53,200 down of the loot box anyways. And then last but not least, 92 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760 this show is powered by Galaxies. 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Are you ready for this? With seamless built in 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,520 monetization tools, Galaxies enables development of 95 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,360 sustainable long term communities, fulfilling 96 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Bitcoin's vision of the centralized freedom and 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,160 independence from centralized control. 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,400 So anyways, anyways, without further ado Mando, let's get 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:23,840 into this market. Can you dig it? 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,840 GM So we're kind of on our third day red day here for Bitcoin and 101 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,200 for majors. We're not. 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,360 We're not going down that much. I think we went down about like 103 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,280 1% over the course of about two days here and probably about 2% 104 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:42,160 or 3% over the place of about 3 days. 105 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,720 So it's kind of just been a very, very slow drawdown. 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,040 I didn't really see that much FUD. 107 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,040 Macro had a pretty strong day yesterday. 108 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,320 The only thing I saw was that some of the Silk Road Bitcoin 109 00:05:54,400 --> 00:06:00,160 might be now available to trade and that that about four billion 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,840 worth, which caused a little bit of fun on the timeline. 111 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:05,920 Like maybe they would do that, go out and try and sell that 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,040 before the election. They definitely don't have 113 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,760 restrictions on their ability to sell it, it looks like, but I 114 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,640 still think that would be a strange move given that would 115 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,480 definitely get people against against the Democrats here if 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,640 they came out and they they just full stack that Bitcoin. 117 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:38,120 So, yeah, I, I think we are sorry one second and the so that 118 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,120 seems to take us a little bit lower, but like no one's really 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,760 gotten that crazy about it. I don't think they'll sell it 120 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 before before the election. That's just, that's just my gut. 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,000 You did see a little bit more weakness in, in China today. 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,720 So the China stock index had had another dip. 123 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,880 I think it was one of the biggest dips since 2008. 124 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,960 That being said, again, like it's been on a massive run up. 125 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,280 So it's difficult to it's difficult to say there in terms 126 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:08,200 of where fair Valley would would really be Exorvis massive 127 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,680 stimulus measures. We'll probably get some more 128 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,920 next week, but that that that was it. 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Solana's been slightly underperforming, but I don't 130 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,160 really know any other major major stories. 131 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,600 The main thing that's been going on is, is this mean voice like 132 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,360 crypto at the moment is like, is majors doing very little and 133 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,480 everyone just talking about meme coins, like even the Satoshi 134 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,600 thing, right? Satoshi's had that whole 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,680 headline that we were all talking about for we seemingly 136 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,520 got eclipsed by Murad's wallet getting docs today. 137 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,440 And I was just like, I don't know if people are going to be 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,560 talking about the Satoshi thing tomorrow. 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Like meme coins are bigger than Bitcoin at the moment. 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Like everyone is talking about meme coins it feels like. 141 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,040 So that's just the sense I got from from the timeline. 142 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Even Peter Carr himself yesterday was talking about meme 143 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,920 coins. If you look at his phone line, 144 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,000 literally even him he was there was like your mom talking or 145 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 whatever the hell because he said his all that. 146 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Did you guys see that there it is this one. 147 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,160 Even him during the the thing went out the thing aired the 13 148 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,160 hours 8:58 PM, which is pretty much when this thing was airing 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 airing right yes or sorry, this screen that was airing yesterday 150 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,480 around that time, right Tyler literally at the time of Mando, 151 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,600 he was literally talking about meme coins himself. 152 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,040 So so alleged Satoshi himself was talking about meme coins. 153 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,360 It's all memes right now and dreams. 154 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:40,960 So yeah, so Bitcoin is a 61 eight here you have Etherium 155 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,920 2431. So Lana here is 141. 156 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:51,160 It's not underperforming Mando. It's just a a bullish dependent. 157 00:08:51,480 --> 00:09:00,120 OK, that's what we call it OK and then pups coded and then and 158 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,120 then and then you know, major seems to be similar to where we 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,680 were at yesterday. Nothing unchanged. 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,520 Mendel quick question and then we'll get to the top 100 expand 161 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,760 on topics. What's this CPI figure thinking? 162 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,640 Does it mean anything to site this this time around? 163 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Is it the biggest CPI in the history of CPI? 164 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,760 CPI is not today, right? I thought it was today. 165 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,200 Is it today or tomorrow? Wednesdays. 166 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,400 No. Oh, I didn't. 167 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,880 I don't know. I thought it was a Wednesday. 168 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Feb minutes very soon. It wasn't this more. 169 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Minutes, the Feb minutes are today. 170 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,840 That's the main thing for today. I don't think CPI is today. 171 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,320 I know it's this week but I thought it was. 172 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,760 It's tomorrow then. Thursday, yeah, it's tomorrow, 173 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,640 It's tomorrow. OK Feb minutes are today. 174 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,480 So where are people, You know, I, I don't think CPI is that big 175 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,560 a deal at this stage. Like, I think more people aren't 176 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,840 really that scared about inflation coming lower. 177 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,560 I think inflation's already come down a lot. 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,080 It'd be more about, I think people are more scared about the 179 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,680 soft landing narrative. So jobs for me is a bigger 180 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:06,400 figure than than inflation just because unless inflation really 181 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,360 falls out of bed, but I don't see that happening. 182 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,360 Oil. Oil, yeah, bounced up a little 183 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,840 bit recently, but it's still been absolutely hosed for a 184 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,440 long, long time here. I think inflation is going to 185 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,840 keep going down towards like 2%, or at least stay around that 186 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,440 sort of level. The main thing here is if 187 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,160 employment picks up and if GDP growth falls. 188 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 OK, well, there you have it. There you have it. 189 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 We'll see what happens on that level, but seems like you don't 190 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,120 think it's it's going to to have a huge impact on the market. 191 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,040 So the market is going to keep doing its thing. 192 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,040 All right, well, let's get in. Let me jump in Pro cart. 193 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Could you go back to the Bitcoin chart for for a second if you if 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,320 you have a chance? Yes, I saw a pattern. 195 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,200 I've got my TA hat on. Oh, oh, oh TA, hats on. 196 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Does that that look like a giant cup and handle? 197 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,400 Mandel. Like like the biggest cup and 198 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,120 handle. Is this? 199 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,160 I mean, basically starting from. Yeah, go ahead. 200 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Tiko looks good man. I mean you're asking Mando who's 201 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,880 like full port? I think they could that that 202 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,920 looks really good. I just. 203 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Saw I don't know if we are chemical looking at this view of 204 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Bitcoin. The Mando is like the maraud of 205 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,680 Bitcoin, bro. What do you mean Mando? 206 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:15,680 Maybe Satoshi? Yeah. 207 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,320 That that's a. What does the cup and handle? 208 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,360 I like that look like. Here you go. 209 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,440 Here you go, Tyler. Let's let's look at cup and 210 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,080 handle. Let's see if you're let's let's 211 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,840 look at let's Google cup and handle. 212 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Like. That it looks exactly like that, 213 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,520 bro. I mean, you're quite spot on 214 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,240 here. Yeah, 30 to. 40% moves up from 215 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,400 that usually. We look like I mean I I I 216 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,960 purposely went on tradingviews this morning. 217 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,720 I don't know if you guys noticed because I'm not showing you my 218 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,240 personal Bitcoin chart because it's full of squiggly lines and 219 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,320 I don't want to get bullied on the timeline. 220 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,560 I got my own. I got my own TA height on. 221 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,360 I'm so redacted. I swear to God, Tyler, but I I 222 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,040 genuinely think that we're going to we're going to break up. 223 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,000 OK, here, I'll just share it. This is my squiggly line and 224 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,640 you'd laugh this. Hey my I drew a squiggly line 225 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,440 yesterday and so it's we'll see we'll see what this is my I 226 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,960 think that I think that we'll go back to 70K by by election time. 227 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,160 We're going to we're going to hang around the 70s during 228 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,800 election time and then as soon as that's over with sky I-90 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,000 hundred 100K by end of the year. I think Mando's been saying that 230 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,880 on the show forever too, like 90K at end of year. 231 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,120 He says it's probably highly likely for. 232 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,040 I I thought we would consolidate around all time high just before 233 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,960 the election. This is the exact time I thought 234 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,280 we'd really start rallying. We've bounced, but I thought 235 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,520 we'd kind of head up towards 70K around the time of the election. 236 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,280 And then if Trump gets elected, I think we go to like 90 to 100, 237 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,320 yeah. Yeah, 100%. 238 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,840 But we've been a little bit slow on getting there now, like we're 239 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,440 just kind of hanging out at this 61 K area. 240 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,400 Bernstein came out with a piece yesterday saying they think that 241 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Bitcoin probably is range bound until the election. 242 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Now. I kind of agree with that, but I 243 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,760 thought the rate we'd be ranging at a higher level than we are 244 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,520 right now. Yeah, no, I, I, I agree with 245 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,480 that. I I mean, look, maybe it's just 246 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,880 taking a little longer to play out than than than you thought, 247 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,640 but like I think it's going to play out the exact same way that 248 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,240 you're talking about. Wouldn't be surprised. 249 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,320 And then and then we'll see. It looks like Donald Trump is 250 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,040 actually quite ahead in terms of the prediction markets for now. 251 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,800 But we haven't. We're going to go. 252 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,000 There only pulley market. Only pulley market only. 253 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,480 So let's go there, Tyler, let's go there. 254 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,440 So. It is strange. 255 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,960 So like just to set this table, and I tweeted about this like a 256 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,800 couple days ago. So Nate Silver's model still 257 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,760 basically unchanged. He still has a comma like 5446. 258 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,960 So kind of like the flip the opposite of what Paulie market 259 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,480 has. Like it does feel like without, 260 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,880 without using polling data, like my finger in the air like swag. 261 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,160 Guess right now it it feels like Trump has momentum. 262 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,960 The the Dems are kind of imploding or there's infighting 263 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,520 between the Biden and Kamala camps right now. 264 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,080 It almost seems like Biden is kind of undermining her campaign 265 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,200 to a degree. And like the hurricane response 266 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,960 has been bad for her. And now we have this other like 267 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,800 another massive hurricane about to hit Florida. 268 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,760 It seems like that's going to be more negative for the incumbent 269 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,480 that it's going to be for, for Trump. 270 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,640 And then the migrant situation just keep being a a top issue. 271 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,960 So I don't know, like if I had to bet right now and like not 272 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,400 not personal feelings aside, just objectively bet, I'd 273 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,240 probably would bet Trump here. I, I think, like I think I, I 274 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,680 texted the boys that the other day, but like there's something 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,920 the other day that I feel changed because like Kamala was 276 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,240 quite ahead. I think it's that on the show 277 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,080 too, but like Kamala was quite ahead for a little moment here, 278 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,920 it seems like post post, you know what the catalysts were. 279 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,840 In my opinion, the first debate, I think after this has shifted 280 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,000 towards Kamala, right? Clearly speaking, I think the 281 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 numbers didn't lie there and the public opinion. 282 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,400 But then post JD Vance versus Tim Waltz mixed with the 283 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,400 hurricane, like you're talking about, mixed with her like, like 284 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,240 the prompter breaking on her and her like completely fumbling her 285 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,560 words. Like, I feel like things change 286 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,840 and like people may have seen the Elon Musk thing as like a 287 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,360 little cringe and stuff on the Trump stage. 288 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,160 But I, I thought it was funny and I don't know, like I think 289 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,080 that something changed, man. I, I think I don't know. 290 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,480 I, I still stand by my call, like my call is that Trump is 291 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,720 going to win. We'll see what happens there, 292 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,360 but I don't know. So there was definitely still a 293 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,280 coin flip. Alex Cooper thing didn't really 294 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,840 work out in Kamala's favor in the end. 295 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,760 I thought it was going to work out and humanize her a little 296 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,400 more, but I don't know How. Did the Caller Daddy podcast 297 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,600 have any impact at all? I don't know, I'm always saying 298 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,320 responses on X which is right leaning at this point. 299 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Most of the responses have been negative. 300 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,760 So I don't. Wow. 301 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 OK. I don't think that's been a 302 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,360 needle mover, hey. She should have come on the for 303 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,760 rock, for rock radio. Open invite. 304 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Then you know, that's Trump did you know, and you know, so so 305 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,920 we, you know, we got as close as we could over there with with 306 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,160 with this. But that's it. 307 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Look, it looks like also like on X, you know how there's like a 308 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,480 politics tab and here there's like the polls. 309 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,240 I don't know what this political polls account. 310 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,680 You know, they pull every all the time. 311 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,400 It's showing Trump ahead here. So I don't know. 312 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,920 We'll see. Of course, a lot of things can 313 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,280 change under a month. This is this account, Tyler. 314 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,680 And if you they basically like pull all the time. 315 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,880 It's they're always posting polls like different cities, 316 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,160 different countries, different sizes. 317 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Like they're constantly posting polls like see 11 hours ago, 14 318 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,960 hours ago, 16 hours ago. And they're like constantly 319 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,920 updating here. So we'll see. 320 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,480 But this last Sprint is going to be extremely interesting and 321 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,480 can't wait to see where it takes us. 322 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,520 But anyways, Mr. Tyler, let's see what you got in store for us 323 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:08,319 today. Our top story? 324 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:11,319 We introed with this, but the HBO documentary revealed Peter 325 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:15,520 Todd as Satoshi, though the market does not seem to believe 326 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 it. Over $44 million bet on that 327 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,680 outcome, which was pretty wild. Crypto majors down about one or 328 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,760 two percent ahead of CPI coming tomorrow. 329 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Eigen was a top alt mover, up about 12% on the day Coinbase 330 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,560 announced support for sending Bitcoin from its platform to 331 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,680 Taproot addresses. Perhaps a a good signal for our 332 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,240 runes and ordinals. And then Canary Capital, good 333 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,200 friends of OSF Amanda that filed the SEC. 334 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,440 Dollar and and and and Cali too I guess. 335 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Yes, Cali. To offer an XRPETF in protocol 336 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,400 news Jupiter, they launched their mobile app offering no 337 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,720 fees, one tap swaps, dynamic slippage and then easy on 338 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,840 ramping via their partnership with Moonpay, allowing Apple Pay 339 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,600 onboarding, credit cards and debit cards along with PayPal as 340 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,880 well. Scroll announced plans to launch 341 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,800 its Scroll Token SCR on the Binance launchpad. 342 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,120 In its path to decentralization, they shared some initial 343 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,560 tokenomics as well, abstracting out the partnership with Gold 344 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,440 Sky to enhance its data indexing. 345 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,880 And then the memes and entities. I mean, this was the story of 346 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,360 the day. The meme coin board folks below 347 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:28,440 majors washed in green. Everything was up SPX past $600 348 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,560 million market cap this morning after Zack XPT docs Maraud's 349 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,120 wallet, showing he holds about $24 million of SPX. 350 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,520 The rest of the Maraud list was also pretty green almost all the 351 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,400 slot and mid tiers. We're up 20 to 80% this morning. 352 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,880 Feels like he could have thrown a dart at the board ticker 353 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Bitcoin hit all time high. That was that was somewhat 354 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,440 notable because it hadn't hit all the time high in in several, 355 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,160 several months. And now the the meme coin mania 356 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,080 is spilling over into NFTS the most Green Day. 357 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:00,320 So every morning I I, I document the top five NFT movers on ETH. 358 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,240 I think this was the most Green Day of the year. 359 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:08,320 It's largely meme NFTS and then right, guys, they got new from 360 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,840 red guys. It looks like we got a new 361 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,760 Twitter account. X account pop up out of nowhere. 362 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,960 I saw that. I woke up the boys chat was 363 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,600 fired up saying red guy, red guy, red guy. 364 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Then I open X and I see a wrecked coin account. 365 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:28,080 And I was like, listen, ever since Ovie left the show, he's 366 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,760 been he's been cooking, dude. He's been, he's been cooking. 367 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,600 I don't know. I don't know. 368 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,040 The boys busy, the boys staying busy. 369 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,760 All right, Tyler. Well, let's let's go around 370 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,800 around the horn here. I mean we already kind of talked 371 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,320 about the Satoshi Bitcoin HBO documentary at the top of the 372 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,320 show. I don't think there's anything 373 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,680 to expand on. I guess my question to you guys 374 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,320 would be like who do you guys generally think Satoshi is? 375 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Like do we do you guys think it's that Peter talk guy who 376 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,120 know like like, I guess we'll never know which is better. 377 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:59,480 But what do you guys think? Because the lens Sassman thing 378 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,320 seemed pretty legitimate. I think threat guys in Belgium 379 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,400 right now. By the way, he went on video 380 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,800 yesterday saying. If I did, If I killed myself, 381 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040 no, I did not. So yeah, thread guy did not kill 382 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,960 himself. But what? 383 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,200 I don't think Lynn was Lynn was even, I don't think he was even 384 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,200 featured in the documentary, but I'm not even sure his name was 385 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,560 brought up. So that was somewhat notable. 386 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,160 I, I don't have a stronger read beyond the documentary. 387 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,280 I just, it doesn't feel like it's actually Peter Todd. 388 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,240 I am. I do wonder, like, is there a 389 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,280 huge bigger target on his back now? 390 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Hopefully not. I mean, it's dangerous, right? 391 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,120 Yes. Yeah, OK, Well, I guess I, I, I 392 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:45,840 personally, I don't want to know who Satoshi is. 393 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,560 I don't care to know. I don't want to know. 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,360 It could be CIA, could be the NSA, could be any three letter 395 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:54,000 agency, could be fucking anyone for for all I care. 396 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,920 I I just don't care about about who Satoshi is. 397 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,040 And I think like yesterday I put this tweet out, Tyler, and like, 398 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,560 I know you sent it back to me, but I think like most of the 399 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,480 people seem to agree like it like by far, like people seem to 400 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,920 agree that they don't really care, man. 401 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,160 Do you care who Satoshi is? I do if they sell. 402 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,400 Yeah, I mean, if they haven't so far, I don't think they will. 403 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,280 I thought it was Adam back. That's what I thought for for a 404 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,000 bit. I think one of the people 405 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:34,320 mentioned is is Bitcoin. It is a Satoshi story and I 406 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,320 think my favorite is Adam Beck, but I don't know. 407 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,480 Yeah, I generally still think it's a group of people. 408 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,360 So maybe that Todd guy, you know, was part of it originally 409 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,480 in day one and with a bunch of other folks. 410 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,840 But it seems like it's something you do with your boys, you know? 411 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,360 Hey, yo, let's clear peer-to-peer, you know, you 412 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,160 know, digital money and fuck the US dollar and change the world 413 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,000 forever, you know what I mean? Like it's kind of thing that you 414 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,960 do with boys, you know? It could. 415 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,560 It could be, but he has a particular writing style, right? 416 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040 If you actually look at Satoshi's writings, they're 417 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,880 fairly consistent, and they're written in British English. 418 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,840 How would they use? Yeah, in general, like 419 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,960 everything. And he uses he uses English 420 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,360 slang as well. Really. 421 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,640 I was like this British English is taught kind of around the 422 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,840 world, right? No, but he uses things like 423 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,840 bloody. He uses things like bloody L, 424 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,680 You know what I mean? He's a, he's a, he's a lad. 425 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:36,720 So he was I people thought that he was somehow like he may have 426 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,520 been taught, may may have been studied in Britain or he was 427 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,800 British himself and Adam back. I just felt like it was remember 428 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,960 I saw a YouTube documentary in it maybe 3 or 4 years ago and I, 429 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,040 I felt like it was like the strongest case for it. 430 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,120 I. Think it was telling how little 431 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,840 chatter about it was on the timeline. 432 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Like, I think most of the chatter was just around the the 433 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,120 the betting and I don't know, I feel like that this kind of 434 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,320 might read that why people aren't buying the conclusion 435 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,600 here. It's like no one's really 436 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320 doubling down on it or, or diving into it here. 437 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, maybe Adam. 438 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Adam Back is the other guy in in the video, by the way. 439 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720 So like there's three people in the video where it's being 440 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,640 interviewed and the other person is out and back. 441 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,920 So. So he was definitely in and 442 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,760 around it too. He was definitely mixed, mixed. 443 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,600 He he was deep. That that's, that was clear. 444 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:39,720 I think if anything or anyone, I think I think Zach XBT is going 445 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:45,080 to Zach XBT is going to to to discover who Satoshi is. 446 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaking of the devil, Speaking of the devil, Zach XBTI mean 447 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,240 yesterday we had an electric electric interview with Murad, 448 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,760 which by the way, I thought went very well. 449 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,920 The feedback on camera has been incredible. 450 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,800 We got about 200,000 views on the video itself. 451 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,200 So you'd love to see that. But this morning, five hours 452 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,440 ago, Zack XBTI uncovered 11 high confidence wallets tied to must 453 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,560 stop Murad holding $24 million in meme coins on the theorem and 454 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Solana so the community can monitor his future activity. 455 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,480 Why do I say these 11 wallets belong to Murad 1? 456 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,880 All walls were funded from the same source in Ethereum funding 457 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,560 source is also blah blah blah and talks about how the same 458 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,160 funding source or Kentucky FTFX team call addresses holding the 459 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,800 similar to his posts and continue usage of D bridge for 460 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:37,600 solana address Tyler thoughts. I, I don't love the, the docs 461 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,640 here, I have to admit. I understand that it's, you 462 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240 know, it's a, it's a public blockchain and all this 463 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,200 information is public. I think it's a little bit AI 464 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,000 think it goes against some, some crypto core ethos to a degree to 465 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,280 do this. And 2nd, like Zach has been very 466 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,360 public about people getting mugged and robbed for their 467 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:05,440 crypto in, in Europe. And here he goes and just paints 468 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,320 an even bigger target on, on Murad's back with with this post 469 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,400 all but in Murad hasn't done anything wrong. 470 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,240 Like he, it's like Zach's kind of painting him in this negative 471 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,720 light. And he goes on to say that he 472 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,680 that he's not, but I mean, he paints in a negative light. 473 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,640 I'm. Just Rudy, which I agree with. 474 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480 He's like thinking he's like projecting a future wrongdoing. 475 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,080 And he hasn't done anything wrong. 476 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Yeah, he he he built a core thesis. 477 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,680 He's been accumulating, sharing publicly and not selling. 478 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,600 So I, I don't know, I, I like, I'm not upset, like I'm not 479 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,400 outraged that this happened. Like I think eventually it was 480 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,680 going to happen. I just, I don't know, it feels 481 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,520 like it wasn't necessary. Looks like there's even a doing 482 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,040 analytic now. Murad buys and sells, so let's 483 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080 go. We have the whole thing now. 484 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,160 We're so bad. What are my what are my hot 485 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,880 takes? So I think a lot of people are 486 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920 saying the second he sells anything, it's going to be the 487 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,240 the the waterfall cascade. I've been thinking about this. 488 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,440 I don't think so. Lee, listening to him on the 489 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,800 show yesterday and he talked, we asked him the question directly, 490 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:16,400 how are you going to exit? He said he's going to DCA out 491 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480 when things look overvalued. He thinks there's going to be a 492 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280 lot of meme coin analysts kind of, you know, evaluating these 493 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,640 positions in the future. And when they look overvalued, 494 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,680 he's going to start to DCA out. And he recommended that to 495 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,240 everyone. And I think if he does small 496 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,160 cells in some of these, I don't think we're going to see massive 497 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,600 crashes. So it seems like Udi has a 498 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,160 similar thought as you and they might. 499 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,360 I'd love to hear your thoughts. So Udi said when I got into 500 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,040 crypto, when dinosaurs still walked on their earth, it was 501 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,800 considered very poor form to publicly docks other people's 502 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,320 wallets. I can see why you'd go. 503 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800 You'd do that if there's evidence of wrongdoing, but 504 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,480 doing it to deter future wrongdoing as well. 505 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,760 So I'm assuming this is your take, right? 506 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,280 That's, that's similar to your take, man. 507 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,440 What? What is your take on that? 508 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,040 I agree almost wholeheartedly with what Tyler just said. 509 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,120 Like I feel like the issue about this is that obviously he could 510 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,760 post it afterwards. I think he tried to defend it 511 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,640 being like look I could have posted this after some 512 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,520 wrongdoing and then it would be fair. 513 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,600 I think this just assumes that he's going to do something 514 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,240 wrong. I don't even know if him selling 515 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,080 is doing anything wrong either. Like one thing I would say about 516 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,960 this is these aren't $5,000,000 meme coins right? 517 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,920 That every single one of them is now over 20 million and some of 518 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,480 them are in the hundreds of millions. 519 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:40,960 If he sells like kind of fine, I would say like it's, you know 520 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,520 what I mean? Like this isn't some guy who's 521 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:49,680 been docked on shilling 500K to 5 million meme coins that he 522 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,120 just then dumps on his followers. 523 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,400 He's actually held these the whole time. 524 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,800 So I think it's I think it probably wasn't the right move, 525 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,800 but I think you have to put it in the context that he's been 526 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,120 going after Anthem a little bit for a bit more of I mean, Anthem 527 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,920 has been a bit more liberal with promoting coins, lower market 528 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,960 cap, right, and selling. Yeah. 529 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,520 So I think it's been put in that context, like if he's the next 530 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,680 handsome, then maybe we need to be a bit more careful here. 531 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,080 But I also don't care. Like I also just like for me, I 532 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,600 just, I just feel that one of these things I'm just like, OK, 533 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,480 it's it was always going to happen. 534 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,000 I don't know why, why Murad? I mean, guess Zach said said it, 535 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,760 but like there's going to be somebody else who's managed to 536 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,640 docs Murad Wallace, like. That's the thing. 537 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,480 He. Probably. 538 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,840 He probably knew it himself. Yeah. 539 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,320 So. I mean, going into the show, I 540 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,320 actually disagreed with both of you think that whatever it's 541 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,240 public Ledger, it's on Ethereum, which is super easy to read and 542 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,320 so on. And now which is getting easier 543 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880 to read. Those whole scans are great, but 544 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520 but it's like it's public and he's been openly talking about 545 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240 exactly how much he's buying of each coin, right. 546 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,360 And we asked him yesterday, Tyler, right, how are you going 547 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,600 to sell? He said, hey, like I'm going to 548 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,760 DCA out SPX and Giga. He said I think that were his 549 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 long term bags for another cycle, but that the rest of them 550 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800 he's going to DCA out of them those and you can go back to the 551 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,320 Maraud interview. It's at the end of it Tyler 552 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,560 straight up asking how you selling? 553 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Actually, we just just post that clip after the show so people 554 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,800 can see. So, but but I guess like after 555 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,600 reading, after hearing both your perspectives and reading the 556 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,160 other tweets saying like how Zach actually warned people of 557 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160 like thefts and IRL robberies, and then two days later you kind 558 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,000 of doxing a thirty $25 million wallet and then saying that 559 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,760 there's probably like $25 million more in other wallets. 560 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400 It could be dangerous for Murat. So I think that that that that's 561 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 The thing is if it wasn't Zach, like someone else was going to 562 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280 doxing guys. Like I almost rather it'd be 563 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Zach, right? Like, I don't know. 564 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280 I don't know. I think I think Zach did nothing 565 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,040 wrong. For what it's worth. 566 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,080 I don't think people should be pissed off at Zach and like 567 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,240 attacking him on timeline, but that's also because I'm a fan of 568 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Zack Kings BT and what he's doing in space. 569 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,600 But I don't know. The answer is probably somewhere 570 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 in the. Middle, I do think there's 571 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120 perhaps an unexpected outcome here. 572 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,680 I feel like I reading the tweets from Zack, I, I feel like he may 573 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480 have thought I don't. I'm projecting that this was 574 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000 going to cast Murad in a negative light. 575 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,440 And I actually think this is reinvigorated some of his core, 576 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,640 core followers and fans. Like we saw SBX run this 577 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,280 morning. I actually think it, it ran 578 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,880 because people saw how much he has and they believe that he's 579 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,120 not going to sell it, right. So I, I actually think that this 580 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,240 may have re reinforced it. It kind of now it's an even more 581 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000 like anti now it's like an anti cop play. 582 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,480 I think I saw someone say that that like now, like Zack XPT and 583 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,320 the and the crypto cops are coming after Marad. 584 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520 So it's it's another, it's got a chip on the shoulder. 585 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680 So I think that's that's going to be interesting to see that. 586 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,040 Play I think the Mirad arc is crazy, bro, like the come up and 587 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,160 the interview yesterday was a big one and then you have like 588 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,280 this morning, the wallet dog scene thing. 589 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Like I think I agree with you. I mean, let's look at the Mirad 590 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,680 tokens on the back of that, right? 591 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,840 You have the, I have your your index here in my bookmarks, 592 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Tyler. So that's the first thing I look 593 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,480 at when I lock up to everybody. At this point, so let's look at 594 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,040 the board here. In the last 24 hours, APU's up 595 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,320 35 points, USA is up 35 points, Ritardio's up 30 points, lock in 596 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:33,520 26, SPX 24, Bitcoin 21, Mini 7, Giga 3 points and then Mog and 597 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,240 Popcat are the are the are are down about five points each. 598 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,680 So clearly the market decided that the docks was positive. 599 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,160 I feel like we're getting decent ties to these numbers a little 600 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,800 bit like like these are insane. Like SPX is over 600 million in 601 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,840 market cap. Yeah, the only holders SPX has 602 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280 as well. Like just check how many holders 603 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,680 SPX has. I will check for you right now. 604 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720 So we go here, we copy this, we go. 605 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,680 It has. 10,000 holders, which means that every the average 606 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,440 holder of SPX has 60 grand of XPX. 607 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,240 Jesus, Yeah. Oh. 608 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840 My God and the holders grew by five points overnight in in 24 609 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,680 hours it seems. That math is wild. 610 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Like I I remember things used to top out like 20 K. 611 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Like if you had 20 K that was high per average holder. 612 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,920 SPX is just smashed through that number. 613 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,560 Yeah, I'm curious to hear people's opinions on the topic. 614 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,880 Mando, of course, as usual, very quick to post a meme about Murad 615 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,080 and and the stuff. Murad sitting on $24 million of 616 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,280 meme coins, knowing if he sells anything. 617 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,000 I have to say, man, I really liked yesterday's conversation. 618 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 I thought it was really good. I know we all got to chat with 619 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Murad after the show in the studio a little bit, but it's a 620 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440 great guy. I had a had a blast in himself. 621 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,600 I mean, unless he proves himself a bad actor and the only real 622 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,520 way to bad actor would be like to to if he just like dumped it. 623 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,440 All right. And I think that's kind of what 624 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,720 like not to throw Anthem under the bus, but I think when he 625 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560 really got cast as more negative was when it kind of came out 626 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960 that he had sold like almost all of his positions. 627 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600 And he's like, hey, I'm a traitor, but I don't know. 628 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,880 That's what folks thought he was going to do after. 629 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:34,120 Showing remember. And I mean, there's no evidence 630 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,880 that Murat's going to do that, he said. 8 to 14 month old with 631 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,080 some multi cycle hold. You literally asked him point 632 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,560 blank face to face on the show. How do you get out of your 633 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,520 positions? So I think it's like it doesn't 634 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,960 get more transparent than that on the live Twitter Spaces too, 635 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,960 right to 1400 people listening and like thousands of people on 636 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,920 video. So we'll post a clip afterwards. 637 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,360 I just put AI just put a pull up fantasy holders rejoicing. 638 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Do you think Zack XPT is right to docks? 639 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,520 Maraud's wallet address says yes. 640 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,760 No, I really don't care. So far, 45% are leaning towards 641 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,000 I really don't care. And I have to say I have a 642 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000 feeling we all kind of like lean into that. 643 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,199 But but we'll see. A lot of people just really, 644 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,000 really don't care about right brother? 645 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,840 No one cares about anything. That's something you have to 646 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,840 believe very strongly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 647 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,800 I think, I think nobody gives a shit, to be honest. 648 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,800 So. So we'll see. 649 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,239 What else, Tyler? What else do we have pop in the 650 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,400 last 24 hours? I mean, all the mid tier memes 651 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,800 just rounding out that discussion I got, I pulled up 652 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,239 the Solana board and basically everything from 120 million 653 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,560 down, they're all up 20 to 60 to 80%. 654 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,040 Like Sigma was a big mover there. 655 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960 There was there were several big movers. 656 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,040 It feels like it's, it's, it's all the older stuff, right? 657 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880 So it's, it's not, it's like the next, it's not Mirad's list, but 658 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,400 it, it's the ones who have similar characteristics. 659 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,200 You know, they've been around for three to six months or 660 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,240 longer. They've got some of the holder 661 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,720 base and they're all kind of re pumping now. 662 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,880 So I that's the story there. And then it's spilled over in NF 663 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,040 TS. I think that's the other big 664 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,280 headline from this, this kind of sector is if you look at the NFT 665 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,120 board, it's not the it's not the major PF PS that are up. 666 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:33,560 It's it's these downstream meme related NF TS and they're so 667 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,400 like mog auras. Well, now they're only up 50% on 668 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,280 the day, but they're up 16X on the week. 669 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,360 Those things are at point O1, I guess now they're .17 Sprotos or 670 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,320 sprotos past two ETH 2.4 now. Yeah, so those are really 671 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,960 grinding up. Damn. 100 day ONS at 1.7. 672 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,160 They're up a ton as well on the week. 673 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,320 Here. Let me pull that up. 674 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,920 Yeah Oh yeah, they're up 450% on the week yeah. 675 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,160 So they're they're cruising. Sprotos are up 230%. 676 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,880 Yeah. So, and that could be like the 677 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440 whole board is these meme NFTS, so people are trying to catch 678 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,840 the next ones. I don't know if there's as much 679 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,840 substance downstream as there is in like Sprottos and AI. 680 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,320 I'll be honest, I didn't even know what product Aon was until 681 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,840 like four days ago. They look cool. 682 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,560 And that's marauds #1 and just the fact that he thinks that and 683 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,600 that with with the SBX run, that's enough. 684 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,480 And these are lower supply both those in Sprottos are both just 685 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,640 3333. Yeah, which is a bit less. 686 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,040 It's going to be interesting if this is like, is this the next 687 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,800 Meta or NFTS? I don't know that I I I 688 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,640 yesterday on the show he said that he's like, the problem with 689 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,920 NFTS is their floor price because they get more popular, 690 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560 they get too expensive and they're hard to enter. 691 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,680 I think that caps the upside on a lot of these. 692 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000 It does. Like if it's Proto Gremlin gets 693 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,560 to Tenny, it's 25,000. Like, are you going to hold it 694 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,640 or just, you know, tell that to get more memes? 695 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,520 I I don't know, I think, I think that's always been the problem 696 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,480 with the meme entities to me. Yeah. 697 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,760 Red guy. Red guy's the other story. 698 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080 Dude, Red guy, I mean, you know, Mando, do you have any insight 699 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,920 on that? This morning we saw this account 700 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,320 pop out of nowhere four hours ago with this beat, which is 701 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880 obviously one of all these art pieces, it seems. 702 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,400 Red coin and then red guy started, oh, this is so good. 703 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,840 I love that. I really like this. 704 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200 This is great. This is great. 705 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,920 And so reggae was a top gainer follows the the narrative here 706 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,920 that that that Murat is pushing for sure. 707 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:45,600 I mean, Mando, what's the alpha? Can't say too much. 708 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,720 Can't say too much at the stage. Come on. 709 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,640 So it was posted from the Rec Coin account. 710 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,840 Probably worth looking at. I'm I'm a little bit shocked at 711 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,640 the at the price action in, in, in rec guys. 712 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,920 I I don't think he needs to be a genius to to maybe work out what 713 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,000 was going on here. But but yeah, it's hard. 714 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,200 Yeah. I mean, you guys have been kind 715 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,280 of putting out a lot of hints out for a long time, so. 716 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,360 But I, I was like, oh, OK, maybe people do need to be literally 717 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,240 like shouted in their faces. Something's happening. 718 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,480 But. That's true. 719 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,720 That's very true. That's one of my biggest 720 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:25,680 takeaways of this space is that yes, you have to hit people over 721 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,080 the head with a hammer. Well The thing is, it's because 722 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,600 people want the now that my Internet connection is really 723 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,040 bad today. Sorry guys I don't know why, but 724 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040 people want the now right? Like the red corner account 725 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,240 popping off means imminent or soon right where it's like. 726 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,840 That's true. Like, we've been talking about 727 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,880 Marriott and what we're doing for months, right Mandela? 728 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,960 But people won't give a shit until like or two weeks before 729 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,480 the big events And people like, Oh my God, right. 730 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,880 Like, you know, it's, it's, it's just, it's just the name of the 731 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,720 game, right? Because there's so many plays 732 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,920 and cooks that I guess you know, but hey, you could have bought 733 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,480 red guys or won red guys on the show for .2 E like what, a month 734 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,840 ago? Not two months months ago? 735 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,960 Still buy them now like. You can still buy a red you can 736 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,920 use a firm and pay in three payment. 737 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,080 I'm skin you can't use a firm just quickly before we go into 738 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,000 the next topics raffle bot dot XYZ Speaking of winning red 739 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,680 guys, raffle bot RAFLEBOT or XYZ. 740 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,000 Make sure you bookmark that because we use it every single 741 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,080 day and we give money away four days a week, OK? 742 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,960 Sometimes 5, four days a week. So rafflebot dot XYZ, the code 743 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:40,000 today is Toshi SATOSHISATOSHI. You have to follow FOMO hour 744 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,720 Robit. Every day you have to retweet a 745 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,880 different tweet. Today is Maraud's interview from 746 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,760 yesterday and you enter the raffle. 747 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,920 Yesterday we had like 5 on entrance, which is you'd love to 748 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,240 see that and I like the story. Did you see the guy that one 749 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,840 wrote a tweet out after the giga holder, but how happy it was to 750 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,040 to win a red guy etcetera. So I thought that. 751 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,280 Was so let. Let's So what is the market cap 752 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,680 of red guy right now? Do you know actually wet that 753 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,760 out? You're asking us, dude. 88. 14 754 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,080 times. What's .8? 755 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960 It's .78 * 8 eight. How many red guys? 756 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,520 That's how you calculated, right, Tyler? 757 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,880 Yeah, four more. So how many red guys are there? 758 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:24,400 8814 that's. 8814. OK, so there it's 6169. 759 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,080 Yeah. All right. 760 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,440 So it's about $17 million, it looks like. 761 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:41,240 No, it's 15 at floor price 1515 mil market cap 15. 15 Make that 762 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:46,040 what you will. You Mt market caps my God these 763 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,320 these feel cheap not. That one. 764 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,440 Not that one. That one. 765 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,440 Well, like my, my question is, is like where, where, where, 766 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,160 where does that coin come? And then I'll I'll leave it at 767 00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,440 that. It's. 768 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,560 Very interesting. Yeah, that is, that is an 769 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,520 interesting conversation in case of an investigation by any 770 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,440 federal entity or similar. I didn't think about this. 771 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,600 I meant to publish my own like meme meme NFT list and sometimes 772 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,000 Mourad published his like I think I mean reco would be on. 773 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,480 I could definitely like like cult I. 774 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,440 Mean. It's definitely a cult, yeah. 775 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,200 I think and efforts have to be on there. 776 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,000 I think and efforts actually might be like the top of my 777 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,920 list. So let's make our own list, 778 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,920 right? Let's let's make our own list of 779 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:38,600 like who the cult NFE projects are in in this. 780 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,240 Do we want to do 2021 cult projects that are still around 781 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,600 or like counting the 2020 like the fresh ones? 782 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040 Might throw punks in there. I think Punks is absolutely a 783 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,120 cult A. 100% I mean I. Think pudgies are, I think azuki 784 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,520 is. I think red guy is I think. 785 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,960 Are board apes a cult? He left them off. 786 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,960 No, he left them off. But do you guys think board apes 787 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,240 are a cult? Because I think I. 788 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,960 Think most NFTS are a cult. I think they they have them. 789 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,200 That's what I was saying to him yesterday. 790 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,800 I actually think most NFTS, at least the ones that are 791 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,280 existing, are actually cults even more than meme chords 792 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,800 because they actually have like much stronger personalities at 793 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,960 the centre of them and people often identify with them like 794 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,360 around their identity. This is what basically what I 795 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,720 was saying to him when you ask me about with the rec guy about 796 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,680 the NFT thesis. I think NFTS are even more 797 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,240 cultish than mean coins. But what I think is, is that 798 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,520 they can't get to this high market price just because of the 799 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:38,480 the number of holders. I would agree with that. 800 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,840 Like a milady is like a proper cult, right? 801 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,840 Even more than like a milady coin or any coin out there. 802 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,720 I don't even think it's as strong of cults like milady or 803 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,080 punks. Punks. 804 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,960 If you're a punk, that's you. That is your identity, right? 805 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,360 And I think that that leads to cults more. 806 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,360 Is Bourne apes on the list? I think they probably are, I 807 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,360 think, but and I love doodles. I think one of my my one 808 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,800 negative takeaways is I feel like they don't have the the 809 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,840 cult. Like I don't know who the 810 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,760 doodles are. Who are the cult leaders? 811 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,040 I think, I think that's why they've been struggling price 812 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,320 action wise just to be told what I think it comes down to that. 813 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,440 They're a brand. I feel like Doodles is more a 814 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,720 brand right? Yeah. 815 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,920 Maybe they're a cult to some people, but I feel like they're 816 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,520 they're a bit more web too in their rollout. 817 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,200 I think there's an AINFT cult but there's like not necessarily 818 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,480 what it's more like a group collections and the ladies like 819 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160 the all the downstream ones kind. 820 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,040 Of yeah. All plugged in there. 821 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,600 The ones we're out has are called, I mean click on puppets 822 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,320 are a great cult, which is by the way, up 25% in the last in 823 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,120 the last day on their way to flip node monkeys. 824 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,600 So we'll see. Are called nodes of cult Like. 825 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680 I don't know that I could sit here and call non monkeys a cold 826 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,160 on the show, no. They're not quantum cats can get 827 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,240 close to that if anything, because you know, there's quite 828 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,160 a cult around Udi and the lore and everything. 829 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,640 So we'll see. But yeah, pops is a cult. 830 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,680 The token itself, like a people like you know, so I did actually 831 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaking of that Coinbase Coinbase allowing taproot. 832 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,360 Do we think that's for runes? I saw I saw D Farmer kind of 833 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,920 claiming it could be for ruins and stuff. 834 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,080 What do you guys think? Do you think it's just to make 835 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,000 peer-to-peer transactions easier on Coinbase? 836 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,680 Or is it to potentially open the board to to list ruins Because 837 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,200 Mando, you've been saying that your thesis on ruins that 838 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640 perhaps one day they could get listed or that that's the only 839 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,400 way it could be bullish for ruins, right? 840 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,640 Yeah they need to get. They need to get listed for 841 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,120 sure. Like it's the only way ruins 842 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,320 survive. That being said, Coinbase never 843 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,800 listed any BRC 20 tokens. Not one Interesting. 844 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Interesting, whereas Binance and OK X did and that's where you 845 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,080 saw a huge amount of Asian buying and selling of BRC 20s. 846 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,120 Remember like 80% or something ridiculous or maybe it's 70% of 847 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,760 all the Bitcoin created is by minus is in China. 848 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,920 So like there's a huge China community around Bitcoin. 849 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,080 I always felt like it would be one of the Asian exchanges that 850 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,960 went into runes first or embrace them like a bit more 851 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,600 aggressively. It would surprise me if Coinbase 852 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000 was the first person to start listing runes, but maybe they 853 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,240 see it as a as a competitive advantage? 854 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,440 I'm not too sure. I think the Binance listings are 855 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,600 coming. I don't know if it's going to be 856 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,360 this month. I don't know if it's going to be 857 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,280 Q4 or if it's going to be in 2025, but they are. 858 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,480 They are coming and I think we're going to see a ruins. 859 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:45,760 Ruins season, yeah. We are for sure. 860 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,280 Again, it's it's mostly for me, it's like what Mando's saying. 861 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,280 It's mostly because because of China. 862 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,560 There's just, there's just like over there. 863 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,440 It's that what it's all about. We talk about it a lot on the 864 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,040 show but like all our Chinese creators have quantum cats 865 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,440 puppets or not monkeys as PFPS. It's still GCRS call right for 866 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,600 this cycle is that maybe the East is going to lead? 867 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,440 Yeah, yeah, I I agree. I agree. 868 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,600 It's still, it's still GCRS. Call Tyler before I get to the 869 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,040 giveaway here. I just saw the time off. 870 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,320 There's so much to talk about these days. 871 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,760 I love that. Was there anything in your list 872 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,320 that you think I missed? I don't think so, right? 873 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,640 No, Jupiter launched their mobile app. 874 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,920 So we just continue to get the the mobile experience keeps 875 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,560 getting better. Mobile isn't yeah, it's big. 876 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,480 The app looks good, no fees. It is, It is interesting. 877 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,840 Will that impact Moon shot? We'll we'll see a few headlines 878 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,760 from yesterday that we that we skipped over just because we 879 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,160 were talking to Maraud, the FDX creditors. 880 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,600 It looks like the mayor, it's a done deal. 881 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,280 They're going to get the money. I don't know if we have the 882 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,000 timeline yet, but they're getting 110% on average of the 883 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,040 value of their holdings with FTX, you know, back there at the 884 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,600 bottom. It's not going to be in crypto. 885 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,720 It's going to be in cash. But that money is coming. 886 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,040 I think it's at least $7 billion, yeah. 887 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,800 Look, it's not what we had hoped for or we like the people 888 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,240 probably that had the money tied in, but it's something that's 889 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:15,840 better than nothing. So I think that came to 890 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,760 conclusion on the 7th, right. That was the hearing. 891 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,560 There's gonna be a little interest on top of it and we'll 892 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,800 we'll see what happens.