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Oh, yo-yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning, GMG. 

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Oh, I know what day it is. 
My favorite day of the week. 

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Thursday. 
I love Thursdays. 

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Always my favorite day of the 
week. 

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Thursday, Thursday. 
Thursday, May 30th. 

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This is last day. 
Oh, no, no, there's 30th. 

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One day is in May. 
All right. 

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Thursday May 30th 2020 I feel 
like Wolverine you know 4 442024

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look at that another beautiful 
day to have a beautiful day. 

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I got my Co host in the house, 
Tyler Mando. 

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How you guys doing today? 
I'm doing awesome man, how are 

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you? 
I'm thriving, dude. 

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My sleep score, my aura ring. 
See, I still have this thing two

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weeks in, Still there, still 
there. 

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My readiness this morning is 85%
dude, let's go. 

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Woke up ready to go. 
My activity 87, my sleep was 

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optimal 90%. 
Look at that 90%, Tyler. 

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It's a big day. 
It's a big day and and the Tyler

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D household broke. 
My son is graduating from pre-K 

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pre kindergarten. 
So he's got his little 

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graduation ceremony tonight. 
So we've got we've got some. 

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It's a big day. 
How old do you have to wait? 

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pre-K is like four years old. 
Four. 

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He's 4 turning 5 this summer. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Maybe I'll do that. 
Maybe I'll do the the 4th. 

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Thing congratulations, Tyler and
and and baby Tyler. 

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I think that's awesome. 
That is really cool. 

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Wow, four years old. 
Your kids like what, three and 

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four, right? 
Or something like that? 

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That's right. 
Three and four. 

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Damn, that's young. 
That is young. 

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Dude. 
I'm like all my friends are 

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married or have kids. 
Dude, I am like, I have a lot of

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pressure on me right now. 
I have a lot of I'm like fucked 

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right now. 
I was like, I, I get my 

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girlfriend's giving me like 
death stare right now from under

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the stairs. 
I'm just kidding. 

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She's not home. 
But I'm under a lot of pressure.

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I already, I already have a 
baby, OK? 

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I mean, two of them actually 
with Ruggedo and the crib. 

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So I also have children. 
One of them's three years old 

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and one of them I, I adopted 
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They're seven years old, you 
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That's my kids. 
That's what I'm going to tell 

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people now. 
You know, I got two, I got two 

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kids. 
I got two kids anyway. 

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Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Anyway, tell the show today, 

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today. 
So what do we got? 

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What do we got? 
We got Bitcoin, crypto, macro as

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usual, daily market report. 
We'll talk about a bunch of 

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stuff, you know, CME, no plans a
tougher Solana futures, but 

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there was some good news coming 
out of consensus for Solana 

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yesterday. 
So you'll have to see that. 

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The layer zero and the other 
stuff that we talked about on 

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the show, PayPal, you have, I 
mean Gemini recovering $2.2 

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billion for earned users. 
You'd love to see that. 

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So those are good news. 
Even the Mount Cox thing we 

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didn't talk about yesterday, but
it shows that there's going to 

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be like a payout coming very 
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So between this, that and FTX, 
it's got a lot of money going 

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back in the hands of X and or 
present degenerates. 

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So you'd love to see that for 
for sure, for sure. 

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I mean, did you have PayPal 
launching crypto credentials 

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pilot for for beat Bitcoin? 
You have a lot of stuff going 

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on. 
We didn't talk about Ryan 

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Salameh, but fuck em and and 
then yeah, say doing our job 

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blah blah blah. 
All its memes and dreams. 

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I mean the celebrity thingy 
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Seems slash seems to be coming 
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three days. 
So we don't really have to talk 

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about it too much. 
I know yesterday's show was 

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heavy about it. 
I think we're kind of we're kind

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of over it this and that there 
was Pac-Man, PAC Moon, sorry, V2

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though, launched yesterday. 
Extremely impressive. 

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So we should talk about that a 
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side. 
I thought it was some very, very

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interesting integrations of of a
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She really like it. 
I know, I know Tyler, you're a 

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fan too. 
I know OV and the whole red 

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guys, Mando, I mean, OV's 
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to the top of the leaderboard on
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There was a moment yesterday, I 
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It was like 7 out of 10 people 
were like, oh, red guys. 

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Yeah, absolutely love to see 
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Shout out to Burn Dog. 
Burn Dog was number one for a 

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whole one minute. 
So, so really happy for our boy 

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here. 
Where's Bernie? 

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He's usually listening right 
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He's catching strays. 
And then, you know, runes. 

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Runes, baby hot. 
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know, there's a rune right now 
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million. 
OK, that is like, right. 

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Like, they're poppin man, 
though. 

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You love to see that. 
My, I love that I've watched my 

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pups AirDrop go from being worth
a quarter million to 20 grand to

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760 K again. 
So it's like it's been like I 

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and I'm holding I'm, I'm not 
touching anything. 

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Actually, I don't even know how 
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So don't worry about it. 
But that's. 

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A good thing. 
That's a good, it's a feature, 

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not a bug. 
But anyways, it's it's been like

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the roller coaster, but I'd love
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So would like to talk about NF, 
TS, ordinals and all that. 

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And then of course, Tyler. 
Tyler, I'm sure has a top five 

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for us and a lot of things to 
talk about. 

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My last but not least, this show
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and sell crypto with PayPal. 
Hell yeah, download the Moon Pay

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Honestly, now I get it. 
Now I understand why Moon Pay 

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got us to be powered by them and
PayPal for this month. 

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It just hit Paypal's like just 
like hitting fucking news on 

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news on news like they had the 
moon pay integration not long 

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ago with all these coins. 
Now they got this like whoop, 

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look at that. 
Now they got this. 

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Now they got this, this, this 
Solana integration. 

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So anyways, love to see that. 
Anyways, without further ado, 

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why don't we get right into it? 
We didn't talk markets 

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yesterday. 
So Mendo, let's hear it. 

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Can you dig it? 
Yeah, So bit of a wit week I 

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would say. 
I continue to be surprised that 

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we have been hit all time high 
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week's headlines. 
It really did feel like we were 

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going to go a lot, lot higher 
this week. 

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You had a little bit of 
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Mount Cox which has billions of 
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sell. 
This has kind of been hanging 

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over the market for years. 
It always seems to be delayed. 

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But they did move some wallets 
this week and that that caused a

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bit of a sell off. 
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really know what was causing us 
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honest, like stocks didn't have 
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The the they fell very slightly 
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tech stocks. 
And we have we have an important

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piece of data tomorrow in the 
Fed PC inflation. 

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But yeah, I continue to be 
surprised at how weak we've been

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trading, or at least that we 
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range, right? 
We've been stick stuck around in

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this in this in this very, very 
narrow Bitcoin range for for a 

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long time now. 
And I think people are getting a

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little bit bored, a little bit 
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And that's probably why we're 
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timeline again and everyone 
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we're just a bit bored and no 
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Bored. 
Insanely amounts of money. 

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So that that's my general sense 
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big headlines you saw the S1 
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It does look like the ETF will 
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July. 
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is the Chicago exchange for 
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they there was no immediate 
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Part of that was to do with, it 
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the, the outage that Solana had,
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yeah. 
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that was potentially one of the 
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We'll we'll wait and see. 
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there is an impediment to a 
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Like you can't really have a 
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exchange is down. 
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makes sense. 
Like that's totally fair. 

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And I'm talking about as a back 
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Exactly. 
So they came out and said that 

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Solana hasn't really reacted to 
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Like if anything, it's been kind
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slightly over the last over the 
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I would say you saw most of the 
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little bit of a mini top when 
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coming in with a hit four and 
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Pepe dropped. 
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coins which have been running 
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decent sized drop, I would say. 
So, yeah, we just had a little 

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bit of wind come out of the the 
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particularly in the top bits of 
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Obviously we've seen, and we'll 
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activity has predictably 
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different celebrities who've 
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that's taken a lot of, I don't 
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economy game. 
I think PAC Moon was has done it

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best in terms of getting that 
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It's been we're back to range 
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surprised about it. 
Can I ask you something, Mando? 

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So what do you what do you think
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I, I've been just staring at the
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I always have like a ton of 
charts hoping which if you're on

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video and reminder, we're on 
video every morning on X on the 

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formula, our account, my 
account, Tyler, you know Mandos,

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you can find it. 
But what do you think of this? 

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I find this really interesting. 
For me, the most interesting 

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chart in crypto is the Bitcoin 
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Like we've been range bound for 
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So since March, March 3rd to 
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candle to 67 K and we've been 
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average, you know, for for a 
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Yeah, we did have a bull market 
pull back normal to 56 something

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when everybody's freaking out, 
but we're just, we just went 

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right back to like that exact 
same range while testing 70. 

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What do you make of that? 
Does that mean anything like 3 

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months of range to 90 days of 
pure? 

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Like soon, I mean, in four days 
it'll be three months of pure 

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range because I think that we're
hitting $80,000 in June. 

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I, I think we're about to see 
like a ridiculous candle after a

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range like that. 
But what usually happens in that

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sense? 
Or could we just chop like that?

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It's all. 
Like we could, we could chop 

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like that for for the rest of 
the year. 

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Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't 
personal. 

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Opinion on that? 
Like, do you have you thought 

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about that at all? 
I mean, my past opinion is what 

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I said, which is that I am very,
very surprised you haven't hit 

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all time high with the state of 
the capitulation in the US over 

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crypto towards pro policy. 
So, yeah, I'm, I have been very 

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surprised about that. 
And I, I would have expected us 

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to have gone higher, 
particularly on, on Bitcoin 

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performance has even been 
confusing me. 

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Like I, I really felt like that 
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But yeah, that's, that's been a 
little bit, little bit weaker 

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than I expected. 
I, I am massively bullish on, on

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crypto. 
I I've also been massively 

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bullish on crypto and been in 
ranges for, you know, months and

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months and months and months. 
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relatively important. 
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makes perfect. 
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everyone's so focused on like, 
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focused on like celebrity, this 
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back to just look over all my 
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looking mostly majors and stuff 
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And so I just, I just thought it
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Bitcoin, I mean, look at the 
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But look, again, charts may mean
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So, so I just thought that was a
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I think we forget 'cause we, 
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the same price. 
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out around May 2nd, beginning of
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the 50s, like the price has been
unchanged, bro. 

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Like literally look at this 
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since March, since March 4th. 
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June 4 we see a $10,000 candle. 
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Book it. 
June 4th my from my mouth. 

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One that's 71 to like 71213 area
on bit Bitcoin we've touched it 

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about. 
Half. 

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A dozen times. 
Yeah. 

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Like it's, it's. 
That's the main point of 

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resistance. 
It's literally right there 714 

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like it's well, I mean, that's 
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don't know, maybe other 
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literally this exact bar here 
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We've hit that. 
We've crossed it once 23456789 

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like you're like you're at a 
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candles. 
Let's try to hit that and go 

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above and seems to be slapped 
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Tyler, Mr. Chicago, Mr. Chicago,
what you guys doing on CME 

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Fighting my Solana bags Don't 
want to listen to futures. 

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I mean, you, I I know you're in 
Chicago. 

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Why can't you go knock on these 
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something happen for us? 
I, I saw a take that we weren't 

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going to get salon futures 
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and just kind of reflecting on 
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needs more time to build the 
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So that makes sense to me. 
The biggest law of news to me 

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that we haven't talked about is 
PayPal. 

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Did you see the the quotes that 
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announcement when they did their
their? 

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Statement, point of quote. 
Why do you expand on that, 

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Tommy, please? 
Yeah, let me have a post about 

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that. 
Or with the quotes. 

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Yeah, I featured it in my 
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at newsletter.luckytrader.com. 
So you can find it there. 

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I, I also post it's, it's my pin
tweet as well. 

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But, but basically, I mean, the 
news PayPal officially launched 

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its stablecoin on Solana 
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It came with a, a series of 
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leadership and, and executives. 
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of blockchain Jose Fernandez, 
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Ethereum works well enough, but 
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payments as we are, basically 
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transactions per second and you 
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pennies, not in the dollars. 
It goes on from there. 

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So this is from the 
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Again, I'm quoting. 
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ideal for Pyusd as it continues 
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cases. 
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scalability make it the ideal 
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solutions that are accessible, 
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instantaneous, but broke. 
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is looking for and praising 
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the choice. 
So this isn't, this is including

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their confidential transfers 
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hidden in transactions. 
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allow programmability during 
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fields. 
So speed, confidentiality, 

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programmability all on Solana. 
Dude, so I saw UDI actually, I 

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shared that. 
Yeah, they actually went viral. 

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His tweet, he's got 400,000 
views. 

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So I, I knew about the 
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UDI. 
He said, OK, this is wild. 

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That's from UDI. 
PayPal just launched his PYUSD 

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stablecorn on Solana. 
He goes, yeah, I know, Jan, but 

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it seems to have a privacy 
feature they call confidential 

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transfers that hides the 
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transaction. 
This sounds a lot like 

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confidential transactions, a 
feature Bitcoin devs have been 

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Larping about for almost a 
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And you're telling me PayPal 
users will have it first, LOL. 

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And you know, he he does have a 
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Where like, the transparency of 
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But, and that's the question I'm
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everybody know what everybody 
has? 

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Like, are you comfortable? 
Like would you be comfortable, 

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Tyler Romando, that I know 
exactly how much you have in 

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your bank account? 
Or that's a that's been a long 

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known issue with crypto actually
100% a post for years saying we 

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need to add some level of 
privacy. 

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And you had, you know, as a 
response that you had the 

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privacy change which came out 
Monero. 

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Monero. 
They all, they all have since 

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basically been banned by the 
major exchanges because they 

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don't like, they don't like 
privacy when governments can't 

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see it. 
So we will have privacy, I'm 

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sure on chain, but I think it 
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governments are able to see it. 
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just like it's just interesting,
right? 

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Like even all the payment 
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think like this, that was always
like this like one thing that's 

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like not right with crypto in 
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I love the transparency and 
everything, but I think it's 

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weird. 
So Tyler, that's some really 

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solid news. 
There was also well for us what 

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Solana followed me yesterday. 
I just want to announce that so 

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shout out to salon Yeah, I got 
the follow back from from the 

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actual int account Yeah shout 
out to a new intern. 

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Thank you very much. 
Thank you very much. 

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But that was the big breaking 
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I know we glanced over it, but 
PayPal USD stable cognition by 

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Paxos will leverage Solana and 
token extensions to serve over 

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30 million merchants. 
And also if you want to buy 

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soul, well, little plug, you can
now the Moon pay app that's for 

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you. 
Keith Tyler was what else was 

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there? 
There was also layer 0 

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announcement from them, right? 
Yeah, Layer layer Zero also 

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launched on Solana yesterday. 
And I mean, this is perhaps now 

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it's just to negative news, but 
we saw the all the celebrities 

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that, that all that, that all 
took place on Solana. 

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So I mean the action is, is on, 
on Solana right now. 

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I mean, ETF has the ETFs, but it
feels like all the momentum is 

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over on Seoul. 
Yeah, this is, this is, this is 

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really, really interesting. 
So I absolutely love to see it 

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on the Solana side. 
But yeah, those are those those 

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are like the major, the major 
stuff happening on the on the 

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macro level. 
Price just looking good to me. 

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I like being range bound. 
The kids can play, you know, 

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memes this and that. 
I'm not even talking about just 

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like the celebrity. 
I'm talking meme coins in 

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general. 
Like a lot of them are doing 

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good. 
I've seen Mando you've you've 

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had quite the you've had quite 
the last few. 

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We didn't really get to talk to 
that about that yesterday. 

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You had quite a weekend and 
week, huh? 

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How does it feel to be back on 
top? 

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Wait, we're not, we're not. 
And we still got so much to do. 

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Yeah, like, yeah, crazy, right. 
And we actually, I remember 

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speaking on my show on Thursday.
Was it? 

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And you were like, oh, how's it?
How's, what was it like being 

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it? 
Was it like being like $4 

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million as a meme coin? 
And I, I said, look, it's just 

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been this one on. 
There's one guy. 

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And there was Bob Farnbury in 
the first period of that move, 

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which destroyed the chart. 
And then luckily when that 

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stops, you know, you keep you 
just have a little bit of luck. 

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You know, you have a little bit 
of luck if you if you if you're 

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if you can grab attention and 
you've been doing cool stuff 

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even during that period where it
goes down. 

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And luckily, I just think we had
a bit of luck. 

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It suddenly caught a lot more 
people's attention. 

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And yeah, I think it's in a good
spot. 

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Like I like the meme. 
And we've done a bunch of stuff 

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since then. 
Like yesterday we launched a 

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meme point, a meme generators. 
If you go into the site, if you 

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go onto, go onto Epic now. 
It's epic.co.com. 

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That's your website. 
Yeah, but then click games, 

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games in the top left that. 
Always gets me. 

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Holy shit, you've built three 
games? 

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This guy's built more games than
like than most companies that 

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raised like $20 million. 
Dude, the. 

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Meme Maker. 
Now go to the meme maker. 

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Let's see this. 
How does this work? 

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Well, I'm not going to choose, 
don't worry. 

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Just just. 
Go random. 

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Now just here you go, I'll 
choose the photo name all. 

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Right, then do random. 
Just hit the random thing where 

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you'll just blow the image. 
Yeah, so it makes. 

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And you get you can. 
OK, I see. 

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With text, OK, we're going to 
add a ton of different 

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characters with a dealt with 
different things. 

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That is terrible. 
That is so funny. 

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They're actually funny, though. 
They actually make sense. 

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I thought it would be hard to, 
like, generate memes that make 

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sense, but it seems like that's 
funny. 

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Menda's working. 
Menda's been working. 

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Yeah. 
I think my take away from 

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watching this Epic action and I 
think it can be applied to the 

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whole market, right, is you just
you can't miss the updates like 

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for these tokens that you have 
conviction in. 

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I mean, Epic ran up what, like 5
or 6X in a four or five day 

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period? 
And if you're like, oh, I sold 

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it, but I'll buy back, you know,
next week or something and 

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you're off on holiday. 
Guess what? 

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Like you, you missed the entire 
like this entire leg up. 

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And of course, like a lot of us 
are still bullish that there's 

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more room to run. 
But it was just like an MTS, 

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like the UP days are so violent,
you just can't miss them. 

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You know, I feel like we're at 
the cost of that though, right? 

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Like I, I feel like we're, 
we're, it's, it's like it's, 

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it's, it's starting to like 
happen. 

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We'll see in, in what form, 
whether it's new coins or NFTS 

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again and what not. 
But like, I feel like, I feel 

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like we're, we're at the period 
where, where there's going to be

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like an aggressive like it was 
literally around this time two 

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years ago that it happened. 
It was a summer thing where like

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things just just it, it happens 
out of nowhere. 

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It, it'll hit you randomly. 
Like Visa bought a punk last two

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summers ago, 3 summers ago. 
And then like punks went to half

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$1,000,000 over like it, it was 
really like, it was like from 40

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ETH to like 100 something ETH 
worth $500,000 in like 2 weeks. 

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That's the thing. 
That's why I'm like, I just want

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to be locked in honestly. 
You never know when you have to 

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run to your computer or to your 
keys and just have to buy 

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something or or sell something 
into liquidity. 

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Because this cycle Dashante 
Naveen, founder of Tari TTMR, 

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take the money and run. 
He learned that from Bon Jovi. 

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Actually, fun fact, TTMR, 
remember those those this 

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acronym TTMR take the money and 
run this summer. 

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Anyways, Justin as well. 
And that's cool that you, you 

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you covered that as well on the 
macro side, Tyler MasterCard 

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launches crypto credential pilot
on Bitcoin. 

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One thing that's been really 
cool MasterCard and and we know 

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the guy at at on the web three 
side of MasterCard, great 

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person. 
Actually, he's been a listener 

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of GMNFTS, Mando since GMNFTS, 
then GM Web 3, then FOMO Hour, 

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00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,520
then the second narration of 
FOMO Hour. 

448
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,560
Tyler, So been listening for a 
long time. 

449
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,160
He's good friend, he's awesome. 
So Mastercard's actually been 

450
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,120
dabbling in the space for a 
very, very long time. 

451
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,920
They announced the Other Life 
Munpei partnership the other 

452
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,120
day, and now it looks like 
they're in getting involved in 

453
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:07,240
Bitcoin. 
Tyler, what's going on that 

454
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,200
front? 
Yeah, they're all not these 

455
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,800
aliases concept is you can it's 
easier to to send payments to 

456
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,960
someone via their name. 
So I can send it to Foroque or 

457
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,440
foroque that that Bitcoin or 
whatever your handle is versus 

458
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,400
your wallet address, which is 
always going to be a hassle and 

459
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,040
you're super scared that you're 
that you're doing it 

460
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,480
incorrectly. 
It it hasn't rolled out super 

461
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,040
far. 
I think it's on bit me, it's on 

462
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,920
a few other exchanges, but I 
mean the core concept, you know,

463
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,640
makes a ton of sense, right. 
It's similar to to ENS and it's 

464
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,920
just gonna. 
Make ENS that's a. 

465
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,400
Little easier. 
So is it dot something? 

466
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,120
So they're not. 
So is it that they're not even 

467
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,240
using ENS? 
Like they're not using ENS or 

468
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,080
dot XBT or dot BT like it's just
their own? 

469
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Yeah, you're gonna set up your 
own credential with MasterCard. 

470
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760
Isn't that bearish ENS and all 
the other domains like question 

471
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,400
to both of you, like Commando, 
you were big. 

472
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,640
Like you had three digits with 
OV at some point and we talked 

473
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,320
about ENS and we were bullish on
it. 

474
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,320
But like, isn't that like super 
bearish for all that? 

475
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,120
I wouldn't say it's super 
bearish. 

476
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,280
I still think ENS, you know, ENS
is linked to Google Now You can 

477
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,960
Google search people and stuff 
like that. 

478
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,640
Like ENS is not not doing 
integrations. 

479
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Yeah, but like there will be. 
Upside is now no longer like, 

480
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,840
oh, we're going to get 
integrated in the big companies.

481
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,200
No, the big company is not 
integrating you. 

482
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,360
Well, it's just, it's really 
just again, it's like a web two 

483
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,720
way of doing it. 
Your ENS you own, right? 

484
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,280
It's your, it's yours, it's Rev.
I actually for 100 years now. 

485
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560
All this is is just your 
MasterCard account is just 

486
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,240
linked to that address. 
So like it's it's it's just like

487
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,000
cash app essentially, but that 
done that way. 

488
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,680
So I don't think I think this is
yeah, going off to maybe some of

489
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,080
the ENS market share, but I 
think ENS is still going to have

490
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840
a core group of users who want 
to have custody of even their 

491
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,320
own identity, right. 
They see, they see ENS as more 

492
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,600
like an identity thing than just
a, than just an integration for 

493
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,720
for a for payments. 
Yeah, OK, well, that's I thought

494
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,160
that was interesting, like more 
adoption. 

495
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,600
There's there's so much cool 
stuff going on like across the 

496
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,160
board at the moment on the 
space. 

497
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,680
Like it's easy to like get 
sucked into like the attention 

498
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520
thing of the celebrity coin, 
whatever for four days. 

499
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,440
It's cool to talk about on one 
show like we did yesterday, have

500
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,200
a broader convo. 
But like there's actually like I

501
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,920
wrote about this, yes. 
I'm like, dude, everybody loves 

502
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,640
to get sucked into something, 
but look at like it's like look 

503
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,200
at look at that price action on 
on, on other things. 

504
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,600
It's really awesome. 
So I'd love to see that anyways,

505
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,120
Tyler, Tyler, what else? 
What else you got? 

506
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,240
What else you got for us? 
I'm actually curious to see what

507
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,080
your what your big, big topics 
are today. 

508
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,400
What's? 
What's going around? 

509
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,680
Yeah, I think the biggest other 
news. 

510
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,920
Hold on, hold on. 
I I every excuse I have to play 

511
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,160
your intro, I have to take it 
because it is a banger. 

512
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,800
So I was thrown off because you 
didn't play it. 

513
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000
So let's roll. 
Tyler one don't you gave us your

514
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,680
top news of the day four Jelly 
NFT and crypto analysis Tyler 

515
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,640
did on FOMO. 
Our calls. 

516
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,840
The kid can't. 
Bring the back some bears top 

517
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,640
story. 
Arguably Biden. 

518
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240
The Biden administration is 
reaching out for crypto advice 

519
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,200
and advisers in a major tone 
shift from where they've been 

520
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,640
over the last months and and the
years. 

521
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,680
And now the Biden token over on 
ETH has pumped in its wake. 

522
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,440
So we're seeing more political 
meme coin action driven by real 

523
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920
politics. 
The other big news today, it's 

524
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,040
all a blast. 
So blast shared gold 

525
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,680
distribution for only 10 million
gold versus 15,000,000 expected 

526
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,280
distributions to the dabs, 
largely in line with most 

527
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,160
expectations. 
But it did lead Sam Stass now to

528
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,440
raise his gold price estimate 
to, I believe, the $7.40 or so. 

529
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,440
No way. 
Raise those targets and then 

530
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,320
this also Pac-Man Pac-Man 
introduced the full detail 

531
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,840
behind its new social validator 
concept. 

532
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,520
A new twist on their tweet to 
earn model where validators like

533
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,400
creator tweets instead of the 
core team. 

534
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,400
The market liked it. 
That PAC token jumped about 12% 

535
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,440
on the day to $50 million market
cap. 

536
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,680
Another cool but maybe 
overlooked story is is happening

537
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,640
on Blast is out of Blast and 
Pepe. 

538
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760
It's a new collection. 
It's launching with a floor lock

539
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,600
feature. 
They're calling it Flock. 

540
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,800
It enables minting with 0 
downside in their words due to 

541
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,280
the mint proceeds all going to 
the LP. 

542
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,560
So if mentors don't want the NFT
anymore, they'll be able to get 

543
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,160
their money back out of the LP. 
Those are the big round up on 

544
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,600
blast. 
But runes? 

545
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,560
Runes are back. 
Some would argue maybe they 

546
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,080
never left, but Dog Dog is quite
literally going to the moon. 

547
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,040
It passed a $700 million market 
cap. 

548
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600
I think it's 7:30 at peak 
yesterday. 

549
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,000
Or right now. 
Wow. 

550
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,120
Yeah, RSIC pumps 30%, several 
runes jumps 20 to 40%, some of 

551
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,160
the micro caps. 
So cats in the sats is up 120%. 

552
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,800
This mega token up 155% on the 
day. 

553
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,800
So there's big action like this.
This is one of the hottest token

554
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,280
markets to trade right now, and 
it's over on Bitcoin. 

555
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Yeah, dude, it's, it's 
happening. 

556
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,320
I mean, there's a, there's a 
pretty big resurgence here on 

557
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280
the on the rune side. 
I mean, the dog, that dog one is

558
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:14,320
crazy that, that, that dog Ruin 
is really pumping hard $708 

559
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520
million market cap that 
position. 

560
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,160
On this trade I I I so whiffed 
on it. 

561
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,840
So I, I have AI still hold a a 
fairly large RSIC position and I

562
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,520
had 20 of the NFTS for like the 
entire time. 

563
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,880
And I had a couple runestones 
which led to the dog token. 

564
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,720
And I had a conscious thought, 
should I diversify hedge my bets

565
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,760
here in, in 5050 split with 
runestones And I just didn't. 

566
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,640
And, and I picked my horse and I
mean, dog is the clear winner 

567
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,240
right now. 
It's three. 

568
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,000
You're like me and and pups 
right? 

569
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,960
Like I picked my horse, which I 
have some RSI see, but I'm much 

570
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040
larger on pups which actually 
where is it? 

571
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,160
The fuck It was here yesterday. 
There you go it's at 

572
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
167,000,000. 
It's not bad. 

573
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,360
It was up. 
It's up a lot from where it was,

574
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280
that's for sure. 
It's back to the level. 

575
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,320
It's back to like the pre Arthur
Hayes on some level, you know, I

576
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,880
think you don't. 
Forget like I mean it. 

577
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,600
So I I was somewhat early to 
pups. 

578
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,800
I bought in at like $3 a token. 
It then went to 20 to 30 and 

579
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,880
then initial and some pump and 
then it went to 90 in the in the

580
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760
Arthur. 
It all happened in like 3 weeks.

581
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,800
I didn't. 
Sell them then. 

582
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,360
It's probably, I mean arguably 
one of the biggest parabolic 

583
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,120
rises we've seen from any token 
this year. 

584
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Perhaps Turbo has it beat now, 
but I mean, it was just an 

585
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,040
insane run. 
And then it all just is The 

586
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,120
thing is like it's still up 5X 
from where a lot of like the 

587
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880
earlier folks bought it. 
If you bought pre Anthem, you're

588
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,800
still up very nicely on the 
trade. 

589
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,760
Now the question is, is it ever 
going to go back to the the 

590
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,640
Arthur Hayes pump heights? 
It's hard to see that path 

591
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,400
upwards unless like everything 
just levels up massively, which 

592
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,200
I guess is still an outcome on 
the table. 

593
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,080
I mean, I I think it is I mean, 
I think it no. 

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Will it go back to that pre 
level? 

595
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,280
I hope so as a bag holder, will 
will it go like will it do well?

596
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,160
I think it's still looking good.
I mean, what happened is that 

597
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,680
you know, you have you have, you
know, kind of like all the other

598
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,120
chains like you have dog doing 
really well on the rune side. 

599
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,280
She always have that like that 
one that needs to carry the 

600
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,360
market up. 
Clearly it's dog in that over 

601
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
here you also have runes like 
RSIC that's doing really well, 

602
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,320
etcetera. 
So you have all the other ones. 

603
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,480
And so I think it all depends. 
There's a there's a just if 

604
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,800
you're a holder, you got to make
sure that you're you burn 

605
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560
there's like on the pups thing, 
make sure you burn the the 

606
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,640
ordinal to get your to get your 
your runes. 

607
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Is it there's a limit, right? 
They're going to. 

608
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Do it soon. 
I don't know the exact I I think

609
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,800
I it may even be like June 3rd 
so. 

610
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Yeah, and what's coming up? 
It's coming up. 

611
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,200
You know, 'cause I had to spend 
the weekend consolidating. 

612
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Dude, I had so many wallets and 
I thought that was going to take

613
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,880
me a while and a lot of money. 
And you know what? 

614
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,520
Bitcoin transfers have gotten 
way cheaper. 

615
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Maybe it's because I did it 
three days ago before the entire

616
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160
ecosystem pumped again. 
So like when puppets were .1, I 

617
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,760
was like, fuck it. 
Like no one's trading ruins. 

618
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Like let me like move my stuff 
around. 

619
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,880
So my fees were minimal 
actually. 

620
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Like remind me of like ETH. 
It was like Ethereum fees to 

621
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,520
transfer ordinals and like burn 
ruins, etcetera. 

622
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,200
But yeah, June 8th, June 8th, 
Junius is the deadline to claim.

623
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,680
So you if you had the the actual
ordinal of the rune pops, you 

624
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,200
have to do this or you're going 
to lose your money. 

625
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,440
OK, So make sure you do that. 
But overall, it was good to see.

626
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,480
It was good to see Ordinals also
have a balance, Tyler, you know,

627
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,960
seems like puppets kind of 
bottom there. 

628
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Let me pull up D Gen's here. 
But seems like we kind of 

629
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,000
bottomed on the ordinals thing 
here. 

630
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480
What do you think? 
I think you have to think that 

631
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,440
if the runes are going to level 
up here that we see some flow 

632
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,040
back to the the NFTS and they 
still like the big four in, in 

633
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,120
ordinal, still feel like fairly 
safe bets. 

634
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,720
And especially if you compare 
them to some of their ETH 

635
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,920
counterparts. 
And the big four, again, no 

636
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,800
monkeys, Bitcoin puppets, 
Quantum cats and O&B that 

637
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,720
they've effectively just been 
jostling around and they've all 

638
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,600
been going down quite a bit. 
But we're up. 

639
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:09,280
Puppets up 60% off the bottom, 
nodes up 2020%, cats up 2030% 

640
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,000
off the bottom. 
So some nice movement. 

641
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320
We need to see more than a 
couple of days before we really 

642
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,600
call this, call it the bottom's 
in. 

643
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,480
But if groups keep pumping, then
I think we're I think there's a 

644
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,600
good chance that the bottom is 
in. 

645
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,400
Yeah, that's nice. 
Mando, you didn't, was it you? 

646
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,000
Were you the the whale that that
swept the puppets or what? 

647
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,440
I know you like the puppets. 
I didn't. 

648
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,200
I didn't. 
That was. 

649
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Yeah, it's now it's much easier 
to trade them, right? 

650
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,680
It is as in Magic Eden. 
I like you can. 

651
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,880
You can trade them now. 
I think that runes are going to 

652
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,640
come back. 
I don't think anyone called the 

653
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,760
death of the death of runes it 
was. 

654
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Just oh, I saw, I saw a few 
crazy. 

655
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Expectations. 
I saw a few, I, I, you'd be 

656
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,040
surprised. 
You'd be surprised. 

657
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,320
I saw a few deaths of ruins. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

658
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,720
I because I I dabble a bit in 
that part of CT like I there was

659
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800
a lot of people actually called 
the death of ruins. 

660
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,400
Like a lot I think crazy 
expectations going into it, 

661
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,960
right? 
People have still done 100 XS, 

662
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,040
you know what I mean? 
Like like a lot of these have 

663
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,120
been crazy trades already and 
people are looking for another 

664
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,280
100 X really on top of that, 
yeah, Ruins isn't Ruins is going

665
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,920
to be here in a year, you know 
what I mean? 

666
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,520
Like and that normally will mean
that everything's going to be 

667
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,800
higher if Bitcoin now goes to 
150 K like I do think that these

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,720
are going to go higher. 
I think it's just choosing the 

669
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,520
winners really. 
I've been surprised that that 

670
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,240
puppets lost out in the culture 
game to dog. 

671
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400
If I'm honest, I'm. 
Surprised all the pups and dog 

672
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880
thing honestly that was my. 
Obviously I voted my wallet and 

673
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,360
I lost their but. 
But a couple of thoughts. 

674
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320
The Anson thing really was kind 
of, it just suddenly felt 

675
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040
chilly, you know what I mean? 
And like the wrong people got in

676
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,800
like all the. 
Hazel, that was a Black Swan. 

677
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,520
That was a Black Swan event for 
us. 

678
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,239
It was good why it lasted 
though, but we didn't sell. 

679
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,040
Across the culture, the game 
here. 

680
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
But do I think do I think pups 
could could go back to all time 

681
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,000
high Yeah, very easy. 
I think it takes a bit more 

682
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,280
time. 
I think what Tyler said is is 

683
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,199
probably right there like this 
isn't. 

684
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,520
I think ordinals and ruins are 
going to be here in the next 

685
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,719
multiple years. 
And you know, I know it sounds 

686
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,719
ridiculous, but like crypto 
punks, like they go up and down 

687
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,320
all the time. 
And who knows in five years, 

688
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,120
like where the where the these 
things could all be like they 

689
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,080
could all build up culture all 
that time. 

690
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,679
Like who who actually knows? 
But like there's definitely a 

691
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,520
world in a year's time where 
Bitcoin puppets are a lot 

692
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,360
higher. 
The tokens I'm less certain 

693
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080
about, but the I think the the 
ordinals I'm I'm I'm super 

694
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,560
bullish on so. 
Yeah, I wouldn't worry there. 

695
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,880
It's true. 
You should have seen it though. 

696
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,720
It was like the death of ETH 
NFTS but all over again for like

697
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,240
ruins and ordinals last week 
when like pups hit like .1 

698
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,080
nearly went sub that it was like
people were dancing on their 

699
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,200
grave. 
I mean, Tyler, what do you, what

700
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520
do you think of that? 
Well, maybe we needed that. 

701
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,440
So I think a part of the problem
with pups is, well, hey, like so

702
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,720
many of the pups, like they came
from zero, like anyone could 

703
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,440
have bought these for for next 
to 0 when they first minted and 

704
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,920
they were the underdog story and
then people latched on to that 

705
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,400
and then they started getting 
the air drops, which was great. 

706
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,840
You know, they had the strongest
community, they had the 

707
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,160
strongest culture and they and 
some and Arthur Hayes thing 

708
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,680
happened and they were no longer
the underdogs. 

709
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,240
Like they, they were the the 
clear favorite and leader. 

710
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,720
And in some ways they started 
kind of dunking on other 

711
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,120
collections. 
And that's not everyone, but 

712
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,800
that was kind of an aspect of 
how it played out. 

713
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,520
And the the meme wasn't as cute 
when they were like the number 

714
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200
one dog at a, at a $900 million 
market cap. 

715
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,000
And maybe that's narrative 
falling price action, but they 

716
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,640
they kind of needed this this 
arc to go back down to become 

717
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,720
perhaps the underdogs again. 
What I will say, I don't know. 

718
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,400
I don't see the puppets on the 
timeline quite as much as I did.

719
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Like, I feel like they they were
the ones kind of driving a lot 

720
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,040
of the the meme coin chatter. 
They were kind of in all the 

721
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,800
circles back in late Q1. 
You hear that puppet? 

722
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600
You hear that puppet? 
Let's go, let's go. 

723
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,760
Let's, let's, let's bring World 
Peace again to to the timeline. 

724
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:24,400
Let's let's get let's get, let's
get that World Peace get back up

725
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:31,000
and and that energy in the in 
the in the on the, in the 2X. 

726
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,240
Anyways, the other thing that 
you talked about that I kind of 

727
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,000
want to double down on quickly 
here is pack. 

728
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,040
I I, I tweeted about a few times
yesterday. 

729
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,240
Of course, like I get to to to 
participate. 

730
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,560
It was like double the points, I
think, or triple for like the 

731
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,880
first two hours, which is 
awesome. 

732
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,120
We're on the leaderboard. 
We're there. 

733
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,720
Tyler, you you're up there. 
Tyler is up there. 

734
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,160
He's right there number six. 
Golly, Jesus, a lot of familiar 

735
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,120
faces on that board. 
And so look at this. 

736
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,520
I'm ahead of Jerem Powell of 
blast. 

737
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,280
Love that. 
But dude, honestly, like I 

738
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,320
really find this fascinating. 
Like what do you, what do you, 

739
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,840
what do you, what do you think 
of all this? 

740
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Like it's the way they came out 
with V2 where like you have the 

741
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,320
creators that can earn for 
creating content that has like 

742
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,880
dollar sign pack, I think, or 
pack one, whatever. 

743
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,280
And then you can be a validator 
for holding over what 10,000 

744
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,880
pack tokens and think that's 
what it is. 

745
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,680
And then each like so let's say 
for example, let me show you the

746
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,680
back end of my profile. 
Like you know, this is people 

747
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,520
that are validators liking my 
post about pack, right? 

748
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,160
That's what it is 'cause if you 
click here, it's this one and 

749
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,440
and I get to earn coins for 
this. 

750
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,000
What do you think like of this 
rollout? 

751
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,880
I thought it was great. 
Yeah, let's just all back up and

752
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,000
just explain it and then we'll 
go into some of the details. 

753
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,440
So yesterday PAC Moon officially
rolled out its V2 with its 

754
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,240
social validator concept. 
With this social validator 

755
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,200
model, creators tweet about PAC 
Moon validators like those 

756
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,480
tweets from the creators. 
Creators earn points based on 

757
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,840
how many validators like the 
post, then how much pack those 

758
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,320
validators hold. 
So it is weighted and then 

759
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,160
validators will split their 
daily point allotment based on 

760
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,360
how many creator point posts 
that they do like. 

761
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,320
So to be a validator you have to
hold 10,000 pack to be eligible 

762
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,040
and then as a creator you 
basically want the the largest 

763
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,760
pack holders to close. 
Like OSF, big money is up for 

764
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,200
grabs. 
So each month $1 million of 

765
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,080
tokens will be airdropped, 70% 
of those going to the community.

766
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Based on these points 
accumulated. 

767
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,520
I think the other interesting 
aspect here is the incentives to

768
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,520
become a validator. 
So while 75% of that community 

769
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,080
AirDrop goes to the creators, 
25% is going to the validators. 

770
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,720
So right there you have a nice 
little incentive to try to boost

771
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:49,240
up to that 10K pack threshold if
you aren't already. 

772
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,680
I think a few other interesting 
aspects of and why it could be 

773
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,840
rolled out for other community 
tokens is it takes onus off of 

774
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680
the core central team and now 
into the community. 

775
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,640
It allows for true community 
favourites to emerge on this 

776
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,680
leaderboard and they've 
effectively built a model that 

777
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,280
could be copied and and rolled 
out. 

778
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,920
So it's kind of an interesting 
one to watch. 

779
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,280
No, definitely. 
I, I really like it a lot. 

780
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,520
I actually told my team to pay 
attention to what they're doing 

781
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,160
because I thought like out of 
all the social fine integrations

782
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,920
we've seen so far, like so many 
of them have been spammy and 

783
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,120
weird and like pushy, you know, 
something like this that comes 

784
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,000
out and that's has a good vibe 
to it too. 

785
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Like the whole pack moon thing, 
like it's a good at this stage 

786
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
because they've had Four 
Seasons, right for V1 and all of

787
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,720
them had like bullish on logs 
and this discharge looking bad. 

788
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,880
I mean, Amanda, what do you what
do you think of pack here, dude?

789
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,360
And we've talked about it a 
little bit. 

790
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,280
You were saying on the show also
like your blast exposure was 

791
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,720
through pack moon. 
I know OV's obviously really 

792
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,120
really big in that eco but. 
It's. 

793
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Looking good. 
Good, good coin, good team. 

794
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,880
I don't think it's your classic 
meme coin. 

795
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,840
I think it's. 
No. 

796
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,960
It's like these culture culture 
coins. 

797
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,040
We've been, yeah. 
I don't think it's a meme coin. 

798
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,360
Feels more like a social fight 
experiment in some ways. 

799
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,040
I, I think it's nice. 
I think in a in a let's say we 

800
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,040
have a second AirDrop world, I 
think it would also probably do 

801
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
well with gold distributions in 
the future. 

802
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,840
Like, I don't think this just 
like dies after after the the 

803
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,040
the the blast AirDrop. 
So yeah, I like it. 

804
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,720
I like it. 
We like the only the only thing 

805
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,800
is it's the FTV, right? 
It's it's, it's although it's 

806
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,880
50, it's 150. 
Yeah, right. 

807
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640
And they do. 
FTV sorry. 

808
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,360
I think that's that's the one 
thing I would say it's like it 

809
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,840
is predicated on future awards. 
Yeah. 

810
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,360
So you have to be aware that if 
that diminishes what keeps 

811
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,920
everything going because it is, 
it is really like it's built 

812
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,960
upon future supply being used to
incentivize people. 

813
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,320
So, but that's maybe not a 
question for right now. 

814
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,520
I just, I'm just that's, that's 
kind of what I think it's like 

815
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,360
you. 
It's not one of these coins 

816
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
where you don't have to look at 
FTV because I think FTV is very 

817
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,760
important for this because you 
have to think what is the end 

818
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,800
game after that. 
But yeah. 

819
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,320
Did you guys just see this? 
Go ahead, Go ahead, Tyler. 

820
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,360
A couple of thoughts. 
So one, so we've already seen 

821
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,640
the the three three version from
Frintex start to to get applied 

822
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,280
to this with like for like folks
are just like shamelessly 

823
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,400
plugging themselves and saying, 
I'll like your post if you like 

824
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,280
mine. 
So that's a little bit of a of a

825
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,720
risk to the this core, like the 
ethos of this model. 

826
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,040
I thought that was interesting, 
but I think the larger point is 

827
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,320
there. 
There's so much money on blast, 

828
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,040
there's so much ETH on blast and
it doesn't feel like many of the

829
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,560
whales are are really ready to 
deploy it into these tokens. 

830
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,720
I mean, PAC moon is basically 
the only token that's had much 

831
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,000
success, reached a 10 figure 
market cap. 

832
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,240
I mean, it's at 50 million, a 
150 million FTV. 

833
00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:00,240
So that's pretty high. 
But I mean, other than like OSF 

834
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,400
and the and the OG general, like
I can't even name whales who 

835
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,240
have really deployed a ton of 
capital into this token 

836
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,000
publicly. 
And I guess this close to TGE 

837
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,000
and with the expectations of how
big this AirDrop is going to be,

838
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,760
I'm, I'm a little surprised we 
haven't seen more. 

839
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Yeah. 
Take. 

840
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Yeah, no, I agree, but someone 
has to build a framework, right?

841
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,000
And I think that them being that
like, I wouldn't be surprised 

842
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,680
like that more people, companies
coming out and using what 

843
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,640
they're using. 
Anyways, I I know the news. 

844
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,120
I I got to talk about this for a
second here. 

845
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,240
I didn't realize because I just 
saw this in the chat, but it 

846
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:32,960
came out like one minute before 
show started. 

847
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,720
Did you now I know why turbo 
pumped and I don't want to hear 

848
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,480
that it was because the artist 
has been pushing on other 

849
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,640
platforms and stuff. 
I don't want to hear anything 

850
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,720
anymore. 
It's launching on Binance with 

851
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,760
futures. 
It was announced this morning. 

852
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,600
You're I don't like this is like
you're timing inside like this 

853
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520
is like there is that's why I 
was wondering. 

854
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,200
I know no one in turbo no red. 
He's a good guy. 

855
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Actually he was on stage with 
these circumstances. 

856
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,800
So this is not red like these 
are like these people don't have

857
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,200
any control on this. 
Amanda, you're muted. 

858
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,080
This is we were all wondering 
who the fuck was buying this. 

859
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,440
Maybe they got a market maker 
then who who could do something 

860
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,040
like this. 
But you've seen you've seen DVW 

861
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,080
on the timeline for the last 
week, right? 

862
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,880
Just read, read out some of like
it it. 

863
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,440
These guys, they're all they 
really this, this is the move. 

864
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,760
Look at this. 
OK, So on May 21st, OK, your 

865
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,800
timing insiders had nine days to
accumulate. 

866
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,960
No, sorry, they had all this 
time accumulate and it was nine 

867
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,800
days ago. 
They they rented up to $600 

868
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,600
million / 9 over the period of 
so nine days ago to May 21st to 

869
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,280
May 28th. 
So they rented up to 600 mill. 

870
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200
Obviously on the news it turbo 
dumped, I mean, still above, 

871
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,880
it's still above $400 million. 
But this, this is wild. 

872
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,120
Like this is like there like 
this is like it's like in it's 

873
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,680
obvious, like it's like out 
there. 

874
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,240
No. 
Yeah, I mean the the the, the 

875
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:04,440
whole and I'm missing shock 
right right now. 

876
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,880
I I shouldn't be I I didn't know
the whole during that whole 

877
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,280
pump, two things. 
I didn't know a single person 

878
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,560
who was buying or trading turbo 
or talking about it. 

879
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,600
And and two, no one could 
explain why it was happening. 

880
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080
I mean, usually, like we can all
create a narrative around why 

881
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120
these things are pumping and and
no one could come up with 

882
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,440
anything. 
And like I was posting about Sam

883
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,640
stats was posting about it. 
I didn't see any half decent 

884
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,520
reply on that. 
We know. 

885
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Dude, that it's that is honestly
that is like probably worse than

886
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,120
all the celebrity stuff people 
all get mad about. 

887
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
I'd rather get front run 400 
grand dumped on me by a 

888
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,880
celebrity than like this is 
wild. 

889
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,640
And now I do wish I knew fuck or
that was that was in it. 

890
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680
But I was wondering, you know, 
Melissa's awesome. 

891
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,920
She was like, look at YouTube. 
There's a campaign going on 

892
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,080
YouTube. 
I'm like, but why is it $600 

893
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,000
million, right? 
Like, wow. 

894
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:05,640
Well, congratulations. 
So I was on this this panel on 

895
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,360
Tuesday at the NFC conference. 
And it was asked to us by the 

896
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,080
host who was like, do you think 
AI and meme coins could like get

897
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,280
come together at some stage? 
And said Bourget, who sitting 

898
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,280
next to me was like, yeah, like 
I really do think that one day 

899
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,760
we'll have a meme coin which is 
like created by the AI and and 

900
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,680
it will probably go at all time 
highs. 

901
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,520
And I was like, he doesn't know 
about Turbo. 

902
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,720
But it's interesting that like 
that is a good story. 

903
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,520
Like it it could be an 
increasingly cool story in the 

904
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,440
future. 
And I just thought that that it 

905
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,760
was an interesting take by him 
for somebody who didn't know the

906
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,000
token was looking for that as a 
token. 

907
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,640
So I do think maybe this thing 
could keep on going. 

908
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,800
Like it's got that sort of 
normie thing to it that people 

909
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,080
like the story, and I think 
that's where people liked it to 

910
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,320
start. 
So I'm not that bearish. 

911
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,920
No, I'm not bearish. 
I'm just, I just love how on the

912
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,000
timeline, like every time I post
the charts, like, why is this? 

913
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,640
How is this happening? 
And like everyone was like, oh, 

914
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,920
because of the cute little toad.
Or look at what they're doing 

915
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,320
with the art, bro. 
Like art does not send the coin 

916
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,800
to seven. 
I think like people need to 

917
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,280
start realizing like art does 
not like your NFT drop, does not

918
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,480
send a coin to $700 million like
that. 

919
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Like Mando runs a fucking coin. 
Like look at how hard he's 

920
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,680
working. 
It's like you're seeing the guy 

921
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,480
do it every day. 
Like, like even your favorite 

922
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
celebrities, even if an A Lister
came to them tomorrow, they 

923
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,880
couldn't send a coin to $700 
million. 

924
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,320
Seriously. 
Like this is like, wow, that's 

925
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,920
awesome. 
Well, look, looks like we missed

926
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,360
a dip to buy if anything, Mando,
because that thing went down on 

927
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,440
the news, went to let's find it 
right there. 

928
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:54,560
So around 6:45 AM today, oh, 
look at that. 

929
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Three hours before the news came
out. 

930
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Even so before the news even 
came out, it was dumped down 

931
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,560
here to this level. 
I don't know what, what market 

932
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,880
cap that puts it at, but it's 
much, much lower than it is now.

933
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,280
It's like what, three, 402, 
fifty, $300 million. 

934
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,600
So, so that's, that's 
interesting. 

935
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,520
That's, that makes a lot of 
sense now. 

936
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,080
Well, case, case closed, we 
figure it out. 

937
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,680
We now know why turbo went to 
700 million. 

938
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,080
There was an insider pump 
because they knew it was going 

939
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,000
on Binance shit, I feel I feel 
liberated right now. 

940
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,520
All right, there's that and then
and then the other question I 

941
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,040
had that I want to go back to 
before we close up, we shut off 

942
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,320
here Biden. 
So there was the news from the 

943
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,520
block, which obviously like 
everybody like have to tread 

944
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,400
lightly, like, right, shout out 
to the block, right? 

945
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,360
They're doing some stuff, but 
it's an it's a it's a it's a 

946
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,000
source. 
That's not stocks like there, 

947
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,640
it's an anonymous source, right?
It's like could be anything. 

948
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,000
And I, I went through the 
article. 

949
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,960
It's like it glosses over it. 
So we're not sure. 

950
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,680
But at the same time, it's not 
surprising to hear like, oh, 

951
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Biden campaign ramps up crypto 
industry outreach and surprising

952
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,360
tone shift. 
I have a question for you guys 

953
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,640
on the coin side. 
There is a million Trump coins 

954
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,720
like the other day when I posted
by Trump and like, what coins 

955
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,200
are we buying? 
I had every single bag holder on

956
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,080
every chain after me. 
Buy MAGA, buy this buy the ruin.

957
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,040
Buy the soul by tramp by Trump 
on ETH for Biden. 

958
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,800
Is there only Boden? 
Who's Biden? 

959
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,280
Oh, there is. 
I posted it this morning. 

960
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,760
Go go look at the chart. 
Oh, so they picked the ETH one 

961
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,120
over the solana one then because
the solana one did not move? 

962
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,520
Yeah, it's on the ETH. 
It's up 8X in the last two 

963
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,960
weeks. 
Interesting. 

964
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,920
OK, I did not know there was a 
no way that there is a there's 

965
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,360
an etherium. 
Oh wow. 

966
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,720
Look at this is a wild chart, 
basically went to zero, like for

967
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:52,200
folks who aren't seeing it. 
And then it's, yeah, it's, it's 

968
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,560
up 800. 
Percent. 

969
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,800
We bought. 
We bought the wrong one. 

970
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920
We bought. 
We bought the wrong Biden. 

971
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,840
It has to be the like if you 
think the Trump token on ETH is 

972
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,520
the the leader doesn't isn't 
that an easy narrative that the 

973
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Biden token would be the the 
easy beta? 

974
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,760
Yeah. 
That's, that's interesting. 

975
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,720
OK, that's, that's interesting. 
I did not know there was an 

976
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,800
theorem equivalent. 
So do you do we think of what 

977
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,960
that so the people flocked to 
ETH over Solana? 

978
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,600
Interesting. 
So we, I mean, we saw Pepe, 

979
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,040
right when Pepe ran on the ETF 
news it, it reinvigorated the 

980
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,800
entire ETH. 
Token Market Odin did not run on

981
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,960
the news. 
It's actually kind of been that 

982
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,200
downward spiral ever since, 
because they are the Trump coins

983
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:46,160
have been kind of have been kind
of kind of like, you know, 

984
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,040
overshadowing it anyways, so 
that's a that's a good round. 

985
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,400
Look, I think we went around the
board today. 

986
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,440
It was good. 
We talked to NFTS coins, memes, 

987
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,240
majors, news, even CI mean 
everything. 

988
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,080
So so I think that's a good 
that's a good wrap around unless

989
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,320
there's anything else. 
I think that was it. 

990
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,640
So we'll see y'all tomorrow 
morning, tomorrow morning, 

991
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,080
Friday tomorrow already. 
Oh my God, wow, the time is 

992
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,160
flying last day of May tomorrow,
so selling may go away. 

993
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,400
So everybody's coming back on 
Saturday. 

994
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,720
So, so, so be ready. 
So everybody left and everybody,

995
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,120
tomorrow's our last day 
together. 

996
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Just just all of us in June, 
everybody's coming back, OK? 

997
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,160
So make sure you pack your bags 
before the month of June, OK? 

998
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,920
So and let's see what happens 
with that, with that, with that.

999
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000
We'll see y'all tomorrow 
morning, 10:00 AM Eastern 

1000
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,320
Saturday time for another 
episode of Formal Hour on Rock 

1001
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,040
Radio. 
Let's go.

