1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Good morning, good morning GMG and I'm like holy. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Shit. Monday, September 18th, 2024. 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Look at that. Another beautiful day to have a 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,280 beautiful day. Another beautiful week to have. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,800 Beautiful week. Another beautiful everything. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,680 To have a beautiful everything we are so. 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,920 I don't know saves if I can cuss right on YouTube. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,720 So I'm trying to like we're more pro now, so you know, I'm just 10 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,000 trying to beat myself. I got my. 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,400 Beautiful, wonderful genius Co host in the house OSF Mando. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,960 God damn I miss you. How y'all doing how you're 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,960 feeling today? Morning, guys. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,720 Doing good. Doing good. 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,040 We did the show for two weeks. It was. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,520 We've missed that energy. I can tell you right now. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,360 I tried to amp it up slightly but. 18 00:00:55,910 --> 00:01:00,230 It was just like a more polite and fast rather than than 19 00:01:00,230 --> 00:01:02,310 anything like you. I'd rather give you credit. 20 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:05,190 You cooked like I saw the clips on Instagram. 21 00:01:05,310 --> 00:01:07,950 Everywhere, on every platform. The clips are fire. 22 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:10,830 You did a fantastic job. I absolutely loved it. 23 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:13,390 I tried to listen in when I could here and there, honestly. 24 00:01:13,390 --> 00:01:15,590 But it was like 11:30 PM when I was in Korea. 25 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:17,590 It was 10:30 PM when I was in Singapore. 26 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:21,750 So obviously was not in the best places to listen to the show. 27 00:01:21,950 --> 00:01:24,820 But God I. Missed it so much. 28 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:29,580 My goodness gracious. I really, really, really missed 29 00:01:29,580 --> 00:01:32,820 the show And hosting and being live on the pod. 30 00:01:32,820 --> 00:01:36,900 What's up, Germantis Roadshow. Macworm Camera Cars. 31 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:37,740 Matt. Perfect. 32 00:01:37,940 --> 00:01:41,500 What's up, Jello Bags? MP Zanzibar Ventures Golden 33 00:01:41,540 --> 00:01:44,340 golden What's up, baby? Golden, golden, golden. 34 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:45,300 Look at that. Wow. 35 00:01:45,620 --> 00:01:46,980 Oh my God. It's like I forgot. 36 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:48,740 I didn't forgot to schedule the space yesterday. 37 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:50,830 So sorry guys. I'm already fumbling here, I 38 00:01:51,070 --> 00:01:52,510 already forgot how this shit works. 39 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:59,630 Don't worry, I did that loads. Every time I remember like every 40 00:01:59,630 --> 00:02:01,430 day at like 11:30 PM, I would check. 41 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:03,310 I'm like mano mano cracking, cracking. 42 00:02:05,070 --> 00:02:07,470 Oops, I. Gave cracking a lot of shout 43 00:02:07,470 --> 00:02:08,470 outs. Actually cracking. 44 00:02:08,590 --> 00:02:10,870 Cracking got a lot. Hell yeah, bro. 45 00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:13,870 You know, anyway, so yeah, but so anyways, the show is powered 46 00:02:13,870 --> 00:02:16,070 by cracking NFT. Fab look at this. 47 00:02:16,270 --> 00:02:18,550 I wasn't even there for when, you know, we started work with 48 00:02:18,550 --> 00:02:22,690 cracking. The day that I was gone like 49 00:02:22,690 --> 00:02:24,570 that was the week that it started right like the a 50 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:26,810 partnership with with the with the fam and the team there. 51 00:02:26,810 --> 00:02:29,970 So excited to for you all to see what's going to come out of it. 52 00:02:29,970 --> 00:02:33,450 I think everybody saw leap and and TGA permission list so 53 00:02:33,450 --> 00:02:35,730 there's a there's a link down there cracking up come forward 54 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:38,330 slash rug radio you already know the vibes you know make sure you 55 00:02:38,330 --> 00:02:39,890 click that make your boys look good. 56 00:02:39,890 --> 00:02:42,490 You already know, so you know they'd be tracking those links, 57 00:02:42,490 --> 00:02:47,450 so you know more clicks, you know more more fun for us on Gem 58 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:51,700 Web Three and at Rug Radio. Anyways, anyways, so look, I 59 00:02:51,740 --> 00:02:55,340 hear there's new, there's new. Rules on the show, there's new 60 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:57,700 formats. There's topics, there's. 61 00:02:57,780 --> 00:02:59,900 Everything going on. Oh man, I missed you. 62 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:01,940 But first, Ovie, Where in the world? 63 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:03,980 Are you right? Now I see you got the the 64 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:09,020 customer support headset. Yeah, I'm live from Mumbai. 65 00:03:12,570 --> 00:03:15,210 I can say that, yeah. It's definitely light. 66 00:03:15,210 --> 00:03:16,810 You can. Say that it's definitely light 67 00:03:16,810 --> 00:03:18,170 outside right now in Mumbai, right? 68 00:03:18,170 --> 00:03:20,370 It's totally like, yeah. No, I'm in St. 69 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:24,210 Kitts. I'm here for another two days 70 00:03:24,210 --> 00:03:30,890 and I'll be at Marfa this week. That is so cool. 71 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:34,050 If I was in America, I would definitely have like. 72 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:36,240 Pop up, Marfa. It's probably going to be so 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,240 cool, so hopefully you can, you know, shoot us some fire content 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,240 live and send it here because I think it would be super, super 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,240 cool. But anyways, what am I what am I 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,920 meant to do now? Like I I'm totally like not used 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,600 to new format. How does it work? 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,240 Am I like meant to like give it to Mando Mando? 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,960 You've been? Hold on, I I miss y'all too 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,120 much. We need a chitchat for a minute. 81 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,040 First of all, Ovi, we're golfing as soon as you're in London 82 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,400 every day. We're going to Mando, I'm sorry. 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,000 We're going to talk about golfing all the time because 84 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,480 I'll be golfing with your boy every day. 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 October 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, I don't care. 86 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,080 We'll go every day, but then. You need to admit it, Michael. 87 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Something's never changed. You guys, you guys in London at 88 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,000 the same time. I'm gonna be in, Yeah, cuz I'm 89 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,360 coming. London. 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,760 And I get back end of next week. Yeah, it's gonna be fired. 91 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,120 I get back cuz we have zebu, right? 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,120 So it turns out I was. I got I I see on my schedule 93 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 that we're both, all three of us supposed to speak at this event 94 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,480 in London October 5th. I'm like. 95 00:04:29,980 --> 00:04:31,980 I mean long, October 2nd. Why would I zoom in? 96 00:04:32,060 --> 00:04:33,420 I'll just stay three days longer. 97 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:36,780 So it turns out the boys will be live at Cebu in. 98 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:39,300 Person before, maybe we do a little like, I don't know, like 99 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,740 friend tech meet up at the pub, you know, a couple pints and 100 00:04:41,740 --> 00:04:42,580 Jimson shots. I don't know. 101 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:44,660 I haven't figured it out yet, but I gotta figure that out. 102 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:46,620 Speaking of which, Mando's been cooking there. 103 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:48,540 So you know, I hear we're going around the minutes and 104 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:49,900 everything. How many subscribers are we at 105 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:58,970 now, 2/3. I've missed you guys so. 106 00:04:59,170 --> 00:05:00,490 Much. I'm not muting myself. 107 00:05:00,490 --> 00:05:02,410 To be clear, I'm. Like, emotional, right? 108 00:05:02,730 --> 00:05:03,970 Now I think, I think it's how producer. 109 00:05:05,330 --> 00:05:07,650 Sims is. Sims is like rage muting you. 110 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:10,090 No, he's saying no. Sims is. 111 00:05:10,090 --> 00:05:12,410 Saying no, by the way, I think you're unmuted on the space too. 112 00:05:12,410 --> 00:05:14,490 I think you're you got used to unmuting the space. 113 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:16,210 That's why I think he's trying to mute that one. 114 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:19,730 That one's that one's falling down, though. 115 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:22,410 But I'll I'll. Fire. 116 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:25,690 Stop your Freemando in the chat. Some things never change, you 117 00:05:25,690 --> 00:05:27,050 know. I may be gone for two weeks, but 118 00:05:27,090 --> 00:05:29,250 I'm back down Freemando. There you go. 119 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:33,330 Ya know, I see a Freeman. Difficulties for two weeks? 120 00:05:33,330 --> 00:05:36,090 None. That was not me muting myself. 121 00:05:36,570 --> 00:05:38,850 What are you trying to? Say there is a baby crying in 122 00:05:38,850 --> 00:05:40,210 the background, so maybe someone music. 123 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:42,010 We don't hear. We don't, we don't hear the 124 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:43,770 baby. But how's the baby? 125 00:05:43,810 --> 00:05:46,690 So be one year old soon, right? Soon, yeah. 126 00:05:46,890 --> 00:05:49,490 Next month. What's sick? 127 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:50,650 That's it. It's crazy. 128 00:05:50,650 --> 00:05:53,890 You almost had a Virgo baby. Almost perfection. 129 00:05:54,050 --> 00:05:56,530 You can't nail it all, but she's Halle cute, so you're good. 130 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:03,970 So I swear to God and my hands are here. 131 00:06:04,930 --> 00:06:07,450 I'm. In our chat, it literally just 132 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:09,570 told me the host has muted your mind. 133 00:06:10,890 --> 00:06:14,930 Let Mando speak. I swear to look. 134 00:06:14,930 --> 00:06:20,460 You mean it again? It's something weird. 135 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:21,860 Something weird is going on here. 136 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,020 Hold on. Hold. 137 00:06:23,140 --> 00:06:25,580 On Let me get Sims up here. Sims, are you fucking with my 138 00:06:25,580 --> 00:06:27,620 boy right now? I ain't doing shit. 139 00:06:27,620 --> 00:06:30,420 I'm just say pressing buttons. OK, perfect. 140 00:06:30,740 --> 00:06:34,340 That's definitely our. Self hands are hands are in 141 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:36,460 clear vision here. Put put your hands in the air 142 00:06:36,460 --> 00:06:38,100 where I can see them right now. Ovi. 143 00:06:38,260 --> 00:06:39,380 Put your hands where I can see them. 144 00:06:39,580 --> 00:06:40,420 There you go. See, he's gonna. 145 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:42,580 You guys just thought you fuck with me. 146 00:06:44,190 --> 00:06:45,590 Yeah, we've been. Made good show. 147 00:06:45,630 --> 00:06:48,990 We had Kelly on, who came with some eggs. 148 00:06:50,510 --> 00:06:51,230 Good actually. I think. 149 00:06:51,230 --> 00:06:53,870 I think people got to know him a bit more, bit better, which was 150 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:58,150 fun. And yeah, we had Mika at the 151 00:06:58,150 --> 00:06:59,830 start as well. But yeah, it was a good show. 152 00:06:59,830 --> 00:07:04,110 It was a good show. Chilled a bit shorter, I think 153 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:05,990 slightly. We just like did the minutes and 154 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:08,550 then like left. But yeah, I think we. 155 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,440 We'll keep that, We'll keep that. 156 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,720 I think it's the cleanest way of doing it. 157 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,880 So we're gonna do like the five things and we'll throw it back 158 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,880 between us two and then we'll go from there. 159 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Hell yeah. Yeah. 160 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 I'm super excited about that. I think it's gonna be fun. 161 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,120 So expect a lot of changes. Expect a lot of changes for 162 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,440 everyone that's used to listening to the show. 163 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,600 I mean, your boys are gonna change a lot of things, you 164 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,040 know? Maybe the name too. 165 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Maybe they're branding. Maybe a little bit of I'm little 166 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,280 thing. We're changing everything. 167 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,520 We're flipping it outside and we're changing it so big. 168 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,040 Thank you Yeah you're right to Callie and to Michaela for 169 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,600 coming in and and and dropping it. 170 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,200 I love the content I saw and I was following most on Instagram 171 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,160 because now that the clips y'all putting out there sick like I 172 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,760 got everything I needed topics wise from from our Instagram 173 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,720 page. So we're. 174 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,200 Gonna keep that because now we can do the five things we'll 175 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,520 just and then you can go straight into this clips you can 176 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,000 clip up nicely. The first thing to talk about 177 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,860 would be friend tech. I think we're all talking about 178 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:02,900 Friends Act. Friday Friday. 179 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:05,940 Everything seemed pretty bad, everything was down 3040% and 180 00:08:05,940 --> 00:08:08,380 then over the weekend everyone start. 181 00:08:08,380 --> 00:08:10,700 Buying up, buying up. Keys, again, there's a lot of 182 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:11,580 self buying. Actually. 183 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:14,220 I think self buying went up to like 20% of all keys outstanding 184 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:15,460 people just buying up their own keys. 185 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:19,460 And then this three three thing which has been going on for a 186 00:08:19,460 --> 00:08:21,540 while and some of the top accounts were doing it for a 187 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:24,140 long, long time, really took over and that became like the 188 00:08:24,140 --> 00:08:27,880 dominant dominant matter which is. 3-3 people may have. 189 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Heard of it from D5 D 52.0 when when Ohm was big. 190 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,000 It's the idea that if you buy, we both buy each other's bags 191 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,080 essentially and we don't sell. And it's a it's from game 192 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,919 theory. It's from like a very famous 193 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:45,720 game and game theory which is called the Prisoner's dilemma 194 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,040 which is like you, you can either both incorporate or you 195 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,600 can both shoot each other to get the like the I don't know to get 196 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,760 the treasure. The prisoner's dilemma says that 197 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,320 you should both shoot each other and then you like you both end 198 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,160 up shooting each other. So it's like the worst scenario, 199 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,520 both defect. But the idea is that we're both 200 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,560 going to cooperate this time we're going to do a three, three 201 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,720 together and we're going to hopefully get the AirDrop at the 202 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,480 end and we're both going to get our portfolio vows will go up 203 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,960 over that period. So it's this concept that we 204 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,360 both hold onto each other's bags. 205 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:23,300 And that's that's become a very, very big thing. 206 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:27,300 You show a lot of accounts start doing it and and most of those 207 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:31,540 accounts like the top 10 or top 20 accounts now the vast 208 00:09:31,540 --> 00:09:33,140 majority of the three, three accounts. 209 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:35,980 But it's it's no longer like oh I've heard of that person. 210 00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:39,580 It's like oh this person's doing 33 or it's I've heard of that 211 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:42,340 person and they're doing 33 rather than oh it's the famous 212 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:45,540 people of of CT anymore. So there's been a big like move 213 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:49,580 towards that and friend Tech TVL actually reached at the high 214 00:09:49,620 --> 00:09:51,820 again. Yesterday again. 215 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:54,340 Were we thinking we're looking at now almost 100? 216 00:09:56,380 --> 00:10:00,900 I think the market cap is close to 100 but the TV is not is not 217 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:05,620 close to 100 yet. Number of new users is down as 218 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:08,500 the growth of new users is lower though, right? 219 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:12,300 Yeah, looks like this has been people returning with a new 220 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:16,540 strategy, and I think this strategy lasts for a little bit 221 00:10:16,540 --> 00:10:19,260 until everyone runs out of money and then it returns to. 222 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Who? Who is doing this and providing 223 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,480 value rather than just who is doing 33? 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,920 I think a lot of people like were just providing value or 225 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,960 they were just doing 33331 over people who were just providing 226 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,160 value. In my opinion you're seeing that 227 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,040 because like the people that people would have paid to be in 228 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,240 a group chat with that who weren't doing 3 three are being 229 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,080 replaced by people who were doing 3, three and. 230 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,560 And now I think the next stage of this, if you go through to 231 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,920 the end of this is will be the people doing 3/3. 232 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:49,980 And having valuable rooms that people want to be part of, so. 233 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:52,140 That's where I think we're. Headed I'd. 234 00:10:53,340 --> 00:10:55,780 Like to get my 33 going? It does. 235 00:10:56,020 --> 00:10:58,740 Look if you do the 3/3. I bet you absolutely. 236 00:10:59,540 --> 00:11:01,700 So I just wrote to my friend tech before coming in I was like 237 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:03,340 look everyone's doing 3 three that's why last time I was 238 00:11:03,340 --> 00:11:05,700 asking questions. So what's the value here? 239 00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:08,740 Do you want to be in value or just is 3/3 all people want cuz 240 00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:11,220 IF33 all people want just do 3/3 and I'm not gonna bother with 241 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:12,070 the thing. Right. 242 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:14,430 But if it's a mix of both, you're I think you're the 243 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:16,190 perfect example of both that you're cooking right now. 244 00:11:16,190 --> 00:11:18,510 You're about to hit 1. EI called this, I got in your 245 00:11:18,510 --> 00:11:21,430 chat like 5 X's are going. I said you're going to 1 E But 246 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:23,270 anyways, I you're cooking for sure. 247 00:11:23,270 --> 00:11:24,910 Thank you for that 100% trade by the way. 248 00:11:24,910 --> 00:11:26,310 It was nice. I closed it right before the 249 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:29,830 show. There's a lot of NFA going 250 00:11:29,830 --> 00:11:31,190 around Fran Tech. You got to love it. 251 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:33,150 But. I've got 3 mandote. 252 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:34,510 He won't let me sell any of them. 253 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:38,400 I'm just sitting there with. With three Mandos watching. 254 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Watching My Portfolio. Go hi, I can't, can't monetize. 255 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Maybe it's mine. Monetize at the AirDrop. 256 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,480 You're some amazing guy by the way. 257 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,600 You bought them like you sniped them as I signed the account. 258 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,600 It's like no money. Then maybe buy yours for like 3 259 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800 times what you. I didn't make you buy mine, you 260 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,040 just bought bought it. So a. 261 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Lot of shitming going around all the chats. 262 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,560 I gotta say though, when these hit me up with like damn, my 263 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,120 phone friends don't even. And buy me and it was like 10 264 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,560 X's ago I gotta say that's like that's like positive shaming you 265 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,320 know what I mean? And so so it's been it's been 266 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,640 cooking. I definitely wish I got more of 267 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,040 y'all, you know the secret was just buying all your friends you 268 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,880 know because they're crushing my 3 three thing is interesting. 269 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,640 So but my question for three, three because I asked the friend 270 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,840 tech chat before I was saying do you keep track because actually. 271 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,080 Ovie, I was reading your chat, which I was like, you were 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,120 talking about it too. I was like, you keep track. 273 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,600 What if that one keeps having a good sheet? 274 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,360 I'm going to start keeping track, I just haven't been able 275 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 to do it because I don't have. I haven't had full access to 276 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,280 everything recently, but I'm going to start keeping track and 277 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,280 then just try my best to. Carry the. 278 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:49,600 One and yeah, I just. Don't have my wallet. 279 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Sorry, I'll get to it. Yeah, I'll do it. 280 00:12:54,120 --> 00:13:02,330 I'm doing it 3. 3333. Yeah, but yeah, it's happening. 281 00:13:02,330 --> 00:13:04,690 It's a weird one because like it's really easy to use trading 282 00:13:04,690 --> 00:13:08,530 fees to to buy people back who are like 0.010.02. 283 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:10,530 Then you get someone who comes in as like, where's 0.5? 284 00:13:10,530 --> 00:13:12,010 And it's like, damn, like I need to honor that. 285 00:13:12,330 --> 00:13:15,730 Then it wipes out your ability to buy like 40 or 50 people when 286 00:13:15,730 --> 00:13:16,810 you can take one of those big ones. 287 00:13:16,810 --> 00:13:19,530 So it's like, so I've been like cars. 288 00:13:19,530 --> 00:13:21,170 Do I just wait and save up like K money? 289 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:22,810 I need to buy K money? Do I wait and save up for K 290 00:13:22,810 --> 00:13:24,730 money? Do I just buy like these twenty 291 00:13:24,730 --> 00:13:27,090 guys right now and then wait to save up for K money again? 292 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:29,440 But then you just like. You never hit like those medium 293 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,800 ones. So I think the right way to do 294 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,160 it is to do it in chronological order. 295 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,920 So like whoever was in first and you'd like. 296 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,280 So when you get to like K money, then it's like, well, I've got 297 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,480 all these ten guys for .01, but I have to wait until I get, you 298 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,480 know, K money, then I do the other guys, but. 299 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,120 The logic is that you do 33, therefore people buy you and 300 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,600 you're like getting more like trading fees and therefore you 301 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,160 can then afford the K monies because you're honoring the the 302 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,080 three three systems. So what I understand is like at 303 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,840 first you got to go with all the cheap keys right? 304 00:13:56,220 --> 00:13:58,820 Be very, very cheap so you can build up a trading factor for. 305 00:13:58,860 --> 00:14:00,060 You. I think that's the strategy. 306 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:03,060 Yeah, I think you get the because at the end of the day 307 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:06,900 your value is based on the total number of keys. 308 00:14:07,420 --> 00:14:12,860 So so you know like one guy earning one key is worth 0.5 is 309 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:15,980 not worth as much as like 20 guys earning 20 keys who are 310 00:14:15,980 --> 00:14:18,660 worth 0.01 so. Yeah. 311 00:14:18,660 --> 00:14:21,500 So I think that's how I did it. When I and I bought, I bought. 312 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:23,900 I think I've got 3 still to buy, but. 313 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:28,260 Anyone. Do you not keep track? 314 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:29,940 I'm buying everyone who owns my key. 315 00:14:30,740 --> 00:14:32,580 Yeah, and. Then I start selling people who 316 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:35,140 didn't own my key. So that was just that's how I 317 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:37,420 started funding it because I bought some people who who 318 00:14:37,420 --> 00:14:41,740 didn't And then but yeah, I started like, but everyone below 319 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:45,660 nought .1, everyone below nought .2 and then just went like that. 320 00:14:45,740 --> 00:14:48,780 But then the ones that are like above 1 E like it's tough, 321 00:14:48,780 --> 00:14:51,260 right? Like I bought someone today for 322 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:56,050 like 1.8 on 3/3 but I was like. Above 2 E's it starts to get 323 00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:59,090 very, very tough because I think it becomes that thing I just 324 00:14:59,090 --> 00:15:02,450 said that the next move of this is you can't just three. 325 00:15:02,450 --> 00:15:04,130 Three is not that difficult to replicate. 326 00:15:04,210 --> 00:15:07,370 Like everyone in the accident going like, right, I can do 33 327 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:08,490 and I can get to this level, yeah. 328 00:15:08,810 --> 00:15:11,570 But then the next stage of this is who's actually going to be 329 00:15:11,570 --> 00:15:15,370 valuable after a certain level like 3-3 is the base level of 330 00:15:15,370 --> 00:15:16,610 what you need to be doing, I think. 331 00:15:17,050 --> 00:15:19,370 And then it's right who's actually you saw? 332 00:15:19,770 --> 00:15:21,370 What happened to Om at the end, right. 333 00:15:21,370 --> 00:15:23,250 That's why I was like, wait, well, this three, three thing. 334 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:26,460 Yeah, sure. 10,000 exit first, but we also. 335 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:30,180 People do mention Ohm and like it's a fair comparison because 336 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:32,460 33 did come from home, but it originally came to the business 337 00:15:32,460 --> 00:15:35,100 that I'm it's slightly different and the reason why it's slightly 338 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:39,500 different is because Ohm was like we both hold it, we both 339 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,740 hold it and if we both hold it, it's it's beneficial. 340 00:15:43,180 --> 00:15:47,140 The the other way, this has a slightly different, you have 341 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,740 like an AirDrop, you have an AirDrop coming which is in like 342 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:52,540 external revenue stream in the future. 343 00:15:54,010 --> 00:15:58,090 Which is then tied with whose value is tied to the fact that 344 00:15:58,090 --> 00:16:02,210 you are both holding. So it's it's a slightly more 345 00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:07,170 complicated version, like Ohm was 100% going to fail in the 346 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:09,530 Prisoner's dilemma. This one is a bit more 347 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:14,410 complicated because it's not it's not 0 sum, whereas Ohm was 348 00:16:14,570 --> 00:16:18,490 a 0 sum game. This is not necessarily a 0 sum 349 00:16:18,490 --> 00:16:21,430 game. And like, you can look into that 350 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:24,430 as well, like gay theory, but I think that that's why this can 351 00:16:24,430 --> 00:16:26,230 last a little bit or be a bit different. 352 00:16:27,550 --> 00:16:28,870 Wow, dude, I asked before the show. 353 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:30,230 I said yeah, so what's this three three shit? 354 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:31,750 Like, can someone tell me how they organize it? 355 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:33,710 And I got so many replies of people. 356 00:16:33,710 --> 00:16:36,150 And then you have this guy that goes, sorry, what's 33? 357 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:39,540 I'm a boomer. Don't worry about it. 358 00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:40,620 You know, I'll just buy your key. 359 00:16:40,620 --> 00:16:42,620 You're always a little pudgy, but yeah, OK, that's fun. 360 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:44,580 Listen, like, the friend tech stuff has really taken off over 361 00:16:44,580 --> 00:16:46,180 the last two weeks. Like when I was in Asia, like a 362 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:47,900 lot of people would come up to you and like to actually talk 363 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:50,020 about friend tech. Like it was, it was a big, you 364 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:51,860 know, kind of like conversation starter almost, right? 365 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:55,020 Because, like, obviously, with the broader NFT ecosystem being 366 00:16:55,020 --> 00:16:57,140 down pretty bad. Like, you know, it seems like 367 00:16:57,140 --> 00:17:00,740 where NFTD gents came about, I tweeted about it. 368 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:03,730 Then and seem that a lot of people are still really angry 369 00:17:03,730 --> 00:17:07,609 about the whole friend texting, but we'll see, we'll see how it 370 00:17:07,609 --> 00:17:09,329 goes. You know I think it's 371 00:17:09,329 --> 00:17:10,930 interesting that for the people who got curious and stay 372 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,210 curious, it's a big opportunity in the bear market. 373 00:17:13,210 --> 00:17:17,329 So I I really like it, I like it a lot it's and it's good to see 374 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:19,410 y'all cooking. So listen, we're going to keep 375 00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:20,650 going. We're going to three, three, 376 00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:26,440 right, That's a new four, right, 3333. 33 Dude, I'm gonna. 377 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:28,079 Hi. I'm like, I'm gonna go buy. 378 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,000 All these motherfuckers tonight, I'm gonna be chilling on the 379 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,600 couch down, says Boom, boom, boom, boom. 380 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,800 From the trading fees and then and then we'll see where that 381 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,000 takes us, we'll see where that goes. 382 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,480 But anyways, what else is new, what else is new like I I 383 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,200 actually like. So we don't do macro anymore, 384 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,560 right? We we don't know. 385 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,000 Things, but we'll throw it back to you like what was Asia like? 386 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:48,960 Like there's so much stuff coming out of Asia. 387 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,600 Everyone seems to come away from that conference being like. 388 00:17:52,650 --> 00:17:54,810 The West is 4000 years behind Asia. 389 00:17:54,810 --> 00:17:56,730 Like what's what? What did you learn? 390 00:17:57,690 --> 00:18:02,610 I thought the West was way behind Europe, but I think even 391 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:07,170 Europe is even behind Asia. So that puts the West further 392 00:18:07,170 --> 00:18:09,450 than 4000 years behind. I mean, I come out of Asia 393 00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:12,650 bullish as a motherfucker. Like, I gotta say, Korea was 394 00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:14,970 incredible. I think Korean on the core like 395 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:19,800 NFT community was crazy like. The Korean NFT communities are 396 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,440 crazy, whether it's actually like moon birds at a crazy event 397 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,760 there, you got like, obviously we did the event with Yuga Labs, 398 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,240 which was a banger. It was the best rug video event 399 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,120 ever. Like it was like 3 to 300 people 400 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,200 showed up. It was crazy. 401 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,040 It was sick to CEO Daniel Legre came. 402 00:18:33,530 --> 00:18:35,370 Bunch of people from you, the team and then a lot of our 403 00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:37,730 holders from around the world and it was really cool to meet 404 00:18:37,730 --> 00:18:40,410 people from communities that don't come out like the NSTN, 405 00:18:40,450 --> 00:18:42,290 YC, right. Like it's like the Japanese 406 00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:45,890 communities, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, you know all 407 00:18:45,890 --> 00:18:48,610 the Southeast Asia and like Chinese community. 408 00:18:48,610 --> 00:18:52,330 So I think, I think it was super cool and this and one thing that 409 00:18:52,330 --> 00:18:54,530 struck that struck me over there is after going to Singapore 410 00:18:54,530 --> 00:18:59,570 which is more like core dev crypto crowd, a lot of VCs. 411 00:18:59,570 --> 00:19:01,970 So, you know, met with just pieces from all over, like 412 00:19:01,970 --> 00:19:04,930 whether it's like Taipei. A VCs from China, they were 413 00:19:04,930 --> 00:19:07,130 mostly based in the Bay Area and whatnot, but it's like really 414 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:11,050 like Chinese VCs and like Southeast Asian VCs, like nobody 415 00:19:11,050 --> 00:19:14,570 cares about the price action. And so it's funny is during when 416 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:17,050 I was in Singapore was doing like, I guess ETH went under 417 00:19:17,050 --> 00:19:19,450 1600 again, which I thought about it. 418 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:21,410 If I was in Montreal, I'd be tripping, I'd be texting 419 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:22,610 Mandalay, what are we doing here? 420 00:19:22,890 --> 00:19:26,570 But when I was over there, it was in existent. 421 00:19:27,090 --> 00:19:29,610 It didn't matter. I didn't even calculate it. 422 00:19:29,610 --> 00:19:31,130 I didn't look at it. I just saw tweets. 423 00:19:31,130 --> 00:19:32,810 I was like oh price action must be bad. 424 00:19:33,050 --> 00:19:35,810 I saw my first fight all over the timeline like more the CT 425 00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:38,450 crowd like over prices and finance all this stuff. 426 00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:41,650 I was like well let me disconnect and and I think like 427 00:19:41,650 --> 00:19:44,450 I came out of Asia super bullish and actually is very bullish on 428 00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:47,610 NFT as a technology. All their super apps over there 429 00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:50,770 have NFT and Web 3 integration but specifically NFT. 430 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:54,250 So, like in Singapore, they banned Uber to support the local 431 00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:57,930 like company called Grab. And last week, the week before I 432 00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:00,490 got to Singapore, grabbed launched the Polygon Polygon 433 00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:03,370 wallet with full Web 3 and NFT integration within the app. 434 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:05,330 Right. So all the Super apps have Nft's 435 00:20:05,490 --> 00:20:08,770 so be actually only so be would present so be by the way runs 436 00:20:08,810 --> 00:20:12,610 Asia but you know I get I get to this rooftops having a little 437 00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:15,450 drink a drink with people and then this man he's a founder of 438 00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:18,370 Superfan and I think up live or something it's called 600 439 00:20:18,370 --> 00:20:20,930 million users in China right. So one of the biggest AI 440 00:20:20,930 --> 00:20:23,730 companies in China 2000 employees, 600 million users. 441 00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:26,810 And they are Uber bullish on NFT integration. 442 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:29,090 So you see all the like ice cream, so good like all these 443 00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:31,290 like you know those live streams, they get those jams 444 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:34,170 over there. It's already NFT's like this 445 00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:36,770 already integrated as Web 3. It's already like Unchained 446 00:20:36,770 --> 00:20:38,130 text. Like when you look at how 447 00:20:38,410 --> 00:20:41,610 everything was already integrated and you think you 448 00:20:41,610 --> 00:20:45,410 really think that Uber is going to have a crypto wallet anytime 449 00:20:45,410 --> 00:20:48,730 soon. Like, you can't even fathom it 450 00:20:48,730 --> 00:20:49,770 on this side of the world, right? 451 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:52,650 You could think that it's going to come, but in Asia it's there, 452 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:56,230 the the it's it's it's you live in this crypto world. 453 00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:59,030 So I left super bullish that I took in 2049. 454 00:20:59,830 --> 00:21:02,150 I was telling Mando before, but I really think it was like 455 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:05,270 networking wise, like not the networking mean but the actual 456 00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:08,430 act of networking there was probably the best trip I took 457 00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:12,670 for rug radio ever really. It was incredible. 458 00:21:12,750 --> 00:21:15,270 I think we should all go together next year because it 459 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:19,680 was really cool to meet, you know, more like Core Web 3, 460 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,120 Crypto NFT investors, right. The people who actually like, 461 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,160 you know, it's money's different in Asia. 462 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,200 It's really crazy. So it was really cool to see. 463 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480 I I highly advise everybody go out there and and check it out 464 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,640 for themselves. And even on the art side, what I 465 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,280 love about Korea, which I I was telling I think Ovie about the 466 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,280 galleries. There's so many art galleries 467 00:21:41,650 --> 00:21:43,970 and we got to meet the founder of Ghana Art and like, they were 468 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:46,730 like some of the biggest art collectors in all of Korea. 469 00:21:47,050 --> 00:21:49,650 And Mad Dog Jones, Beige Fuck Render and Victor Mascara had a 470 00:21:49,690 --> 00:21:52,410 exhibit there and it was just cool, Like the DK Motion 471 00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:53,330 exhibit. I don't know if you saw the 472 00:21:53,330 --> 00:21:56,090 photos and videos online. It's crazy like. 473 00:21:56,410 --> 00:21:58,930 I didn't know he doxed until the last words. 474 00:21:59,250 --> 00:22:01,330 Yeah, we all went to him and was like, hey, can we post this? 475 00:22:01,330 --> 00:22:02,250 And he's like, yeah, yeah, you're good. 476 00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:04,730 I'm like, OK, I had no idea he was doxed either. 477 00:22:04,730 --> 00:22:06,530 That's why I first said they want to post the photos of him. 478 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:10,410 But he was out there and I don't know man, it's just people was 479 00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:14,220 like just the art there was crazy and it was really cool to 480 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:18,620 see like culture fashion, like the more culture NFT shape was 481 00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:23,780 Korea, but Singapore was more like full on like Chat Central V 482 00:22:23,780 --> 00:22:26,340 C's, you know you got to meet the biggest exchanges. 483 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:29,380 You go to this mental things, this Bible thing, it's just like 484 00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:31,100 a bunch of the big you know, crypto name. 485 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:35,700 So it was a lot of fun, Super bullish on Asia and I think I'm 486 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,260 going to make a lot of more trips there. 487 00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:39,700 I think we should all be going to Hong Kong next together. 488 00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:42,330 It does feel like they're just jumping. 489 00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:44,050 Even Japan I saw this week, right? 490 00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:46,090 Like they they did this thing where you can raise money now 491 00:22:46,090 --> 00:22:49,450 via via crypto. They've changed their tax laws. 492 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:52,490 You had Hong Kong making a big push, Singapore's obviously make 493 00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:56,290 it make it push for a while, but it's just tough to fight with 494 00:22:56,290 --> 00:22:57,290 that. And even what you just said, 495 00:22:57,290 --> 00:22:59,490 like the sentiment from people is just way different. 496 00:22:59,690 --> 00:23:02,210 Like, everyone's just, they're not fighting, they're just kind 497 00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:05,730 of, didn't you also say, like, it's funny how the difference 498 00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:07,170 even between how people treat yoga. 499 00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:12,560 Out there. Dude the even the board up your 500 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,160 club community over there like it's crazy like I I I would go I 501 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,000 went to the punks brunch in Korea so separate from Aravan 502 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,920 they threw a wonderful punks brunch in Korea and and and an 503 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,400 incredible punks brunch as well in in Singapore shot to Isaac 504 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,520 he's I know he's the one grinding and storing him 505 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 everywhere and everything but the quality of the people I met 506 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,650 there like in terms of just pure business like I I just went 507 00:23:35,650 --> 00:23:37,930 through like earlier today I did the exercise like going through 508 00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:40,730 all the people I connected with or telegrams or handles like 509 00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:44,250 what they do blah blah blah. And I was like, wow, like it's 510 00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:46,490 really, really cool. And yeah, there's a lot of chat 511 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:47,770 ape holders. I gotta say, all these 512 00:23:47,770 --> 00:23:50,130 motherfuckers on Telegram, they got boarding BFP's. 513 00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:54,250 I'm like, damn, you know, over there's different, but it's you 514 00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:56,730 wouldn't see it though. I saw that though I was looking 515 00:23:56,730 --> 00:24:00,250 through the speakers for 2049 and loads of them on Twitter 516 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:01,850 were. Were apes. 517 00:24:01,850 --> 00:24:03,130 And I was like, you don't see that? 518 00:24:03,130 --> 00:24:05,650 That that that also owns in Taipei. 519 00:24:05,690 --> 00:24:09,410 The guys like has like a a bloodshot board APFPS, telegram 520 00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:12,450 and like they just buy a bunch of NFTS you know, I mean pimp 521 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:15,090 capitals from other rights from China and like a bunch of people 522 00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:18,050 like the big buyers they don't care about this whole like short 523 00:24:18,050 --> 00:24:19,810 term. They don't care about this whole 524 00:24:19,810 --> 00:24:23,090 like oh going on Twitter and like the banter back and forth 525 00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:26,130 they they really don't care. Like it's it's it's a it's 526 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:28,070 another life. There's another world over there 527 00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:30,790 and I really appreciated it. Actually, it was, it was. 528 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:34,790 It feels good to see that. You know, there's people 529 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:39,150 genuinely, genuinely care from it from like the culture, 530 00:24:39,150 --> 00:24:41,430 community, investment aspect over there. 531 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:43,510 So I don't know. I think it was fire. 532 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:47,510 I'm gonna be going back. I just left, yeah. 533 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:51,430 So the third thing to this Yeah, I might come. 534 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:52,990 I might come. Hong Kong, maybe. 535 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:54,670 I didn't make Singapore, but Hong Kong I might. 536 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:59,990 And then the stuff that we'll look out for this week, today we 537 00:24:59,990 --> 00:25:02,510 have finance. Finance has got a a meeting or a 538 00:25:02,510 --> 00:25:06,670 hearing with the SEC at 3:00 PM Eastern, which is 8:00 PM my 539 00:25:06,670 --> 00:25:09,070 time. So you could see some headlines 540 00:25:09,070 --> 00:25:11,550 around that. Obviously more and more people 541 00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:14,350 were were leaving finance US last week. 542 00:25:15,150 --> 00:25:18,550 I'm sure your favorite thread Ors will be all over that one as 543 00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:20,830 it as it comes out. They're actually some of the 544 00:25:20,830 --> 00:25:23,790 documents in the case versus finance is going to be released 545 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:25,950 on Friday. So expect some headlines around 546 00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:28,140 that. You've got the Fed on Wednesday. 547 00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:31,460 No, there's a 1% chance according to markets that they 548 00:25:31,460 --> 00:25:33,420 raise rates. Very, very unlikely that they 549 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:37,020 raise rates, but it is. People have been putting very 550 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:40,220 the dollar is at a six month high because people are saying 551 00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:42,380 they might still be hawkish high for longer. 552 00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:44,220 This sort of narrative might continue for a while. 553 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:47,340 And then Thursday you've got the Bank of England who are expected 554 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:50,700 to raise rates. But Wednesday's the big one for 555 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,380 a macro perspective. It will be. 556 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:56,340 Don't expect anything around when they released a statement. 557 00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:59,180 It will be just around when they do their press conference, which 558 00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:01,460 will be later in the day, but we normally. 559 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:02,900 Get Thursday. It's on Thursday, right? 560 00:26:03,820 --> 00:26:07,900 Yeah, Thursday, yeah. For the two days, yeah. 561 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:09,860 So, yeah, first, yeah, because I've got the right decision in 562 00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:12,140 the conference. Yeah, it's been a while, right? 563 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:13,500 Since we've had one as well, 'cause? 564 00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:15,500 A few months, yeah. Yeah. 565 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:19,460 I can't wait for my my inaugural, like 2:30 PM tax to 566 00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:20,900 OV. Are we rich or poor? 567 00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:24,420 Like that's gonna be my text on Thursday or Wednesday whenever 568 00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,940 it's OVS as always, as it always is. 569 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,220 Is there like, is there any crazy expectations for you? 570 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,740 I think like the biggest, I guess, not concerned, but I 571 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:32,940 think the biggest headlines today. 572 00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:35,180 Right, I really it says. It's Wednesday OSF. 573 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:40,420 The FOMC, the right decision. Fed interest rate decision, 7:00 574 00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:43,860 PM Wednesday, FOMC economic positions 7:00 PM Wednesday. 575 00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:45,900 They're doing it on Wednesday this week, I think maybe. 576 00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:47,730 Doing it on Thursday, I don't know. 577 00:26:48,130 --> 00:26:49,810 Maybe. It's maybe the dates from 19th, 578 00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:52,370 20th and not 20th, 21st and maybe. 579 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:54,770 Yeah, yeah, it's 19th, 20th, not 2020 first. 580 00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:56,170 So you're right. Yeah, it's Wednesday. 581 00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:59,250 I think that changed because I'm pretty sure I used to read about 582 00:26:59,370 --> 00:27:01,330 it. Normally on Thursday it's. 583 00:27:01,770 --> 00:27:04,930 Normally on there is normally, yeah, although it is it because 584 00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:06,970 normally it's when we're doing rec radio and it would be on 585 00:27:06,970 --> 00:27:08,610 Wednesday again, which is during rec radio. 586 00:27:09,130 --> 00:27:13,150 Yeah. CP I I forget one of them's on a 587 00:27:13,150 --> 00:27:15,070 Thursday. But yeah, this this one, this 588 00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:16,790 one's on Wednesday. Yeah, it's on Thursdays. 589 00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:18,870 That's on Wednesdays usually, because I know when I text you 590 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:24,630 guys. So yeah, look, I don't expect 591 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:28,150 anything that is definitely going to be unchanged 5 1/2%, 592 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:31,510 but he may be slightly hawkish and that's what people are 593 00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:34,510 betting on going into this. Yeah, I mean, did you? 594 00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:38,070 See what happened to Mark Cuban? No, tell me. 595 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:41,500 I mean, I did see it quickly, but The thing is like, I was on 596 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:43,980 my way to Europe when that happened, so I hear he got 597 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,380 drained. Yeah, Mark Cuban was drained for 598 00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:51,980 $870,000 worth of crypto. The man is worth like 5 billion, 599 00:27:51,980 --> 00:27:53,300 so you don't have to cry for him. 600 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:56,740 But he's it's not really been a great art for Mark Cuban. 601 00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:59,420 I feel like in in crypto he's he's got a he's got involved in 602 00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:01,780 a few like rug pulls. He involved in iron finance, 603 00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:03,420 remember? He lost money. 604 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:07,860 He's he invested in a bunch of NFT companies which never really 605 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,610 did that. Well, remember that too. 606 00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:14,810 Come on. He's had a he's had a pretty 607 00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:18,490 Tory time, I think, in crypto. But he then came out and said 608 00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:22,730 publicly that he downloaded a dodgy meta mask from the Chrome 609 00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:26,170 store and that that had wiped this stuff. 610 00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:31,530 So he said it was from a like he fucked up with him downloading 611 00:28:31,530 --> 00:28:34,050 some sort of extension to one of his devices and that's what 612 00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:37,380 that's what caused that. He then moved all his assets to 613 00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:39,220 Coinbase. Probably sold everything. 614 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:41,740 Yeah. He just. 615 00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:46,340 I think he marked the bottom again, you know, but but I 616 00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:48,540 don't. Know he did. 617 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:51,900 But. I think that was the initial 618 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,460 article that did come out. There was a little bit more that 619 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:55,220 came out later. He kind of went into a bit more 620 00:28:55,220 --> 00:28:56,660 detail about what actually had happened. 621 00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:59,260 But yeah, Mark, Mark Cubanon's fucking. 622 00:28:59,260 --> 00:29:03,340 It's the name of that, right? Like. 623 00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:06,190 He's he's just done incredibly well on that. 624 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:09,470 So I think he's he's doing absolutely fine. 625 00:29:10,150 --> 00:29:12,950 Yeah, I think he'll be fine. And then the final thing was 626 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:15,430 this eight coin, it looks like this is going to pass. 627 00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:18,510 So it looks like they will be buying back. 628 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,270 We can bring it up actually if you go on to maybe you do it for 629 00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:27,510 if you go on to the 8 Dow, eight coin Dow, AIPI think it's like 630 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:31,550 the third one there and last time I checked it was 52% 631 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:34,580 chance. Of it being passed. 632 00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:39,660 Oh wow, You got a snapshot? Yeah, directly we can go 633 00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:41,380 directly into snapshot. So it's it's. 634 00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:43,860 The 4th one. That one. 635 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:46,900 There you go. We're at 55 against. 636 00:29:47,020 --> 00:29:48,740 Oh, so wow. No. 637 00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:51,940 But Matt, she hasn't voted, yo. But Matt, she hasn't voted yet, 638 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:52,660 that's what. I. 639 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:56,060 Heard. So yeah, 54%. 640 00:29:57,260 --> 00:29:58,220 So it looks like it's going to pass. 641 00:29:58,260 --> 00:30:00,660 If Mattie hasn't voted, this is definitely passing. 642 00:30:01,820 --> 00:30:04,500 But it's looks like I think. It's quite. 643 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:08,260 I like how he's not vote, how he's not voted yet because he 644 00:30:08,260 --> 00:30:11,180 and then say well people it passed even without me voting 645 00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:13,860 kind of thing, right? I think matchy always. 646 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:15,380 Like I've I've been watching these big. 647 00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:19,260 Proposals he's always waiting for the last second like he's 648 00:30:19,260 --> 00:30:22,340 it's it's not the first time match he's waiting for the last 649 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:25,820 even during the elections for Apecoin council all. 650 00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:27,060 The time, right? He was just like. 651 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,040 He would wait last minute maximizes leverage and then and 652 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,840 then Tuesday winner to. I mean engagement farming wise 653 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,160 like you wait till the last second to move like three and a 654 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,280 half, $1,000,000 worth of Apecoin to vote. 655 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,440 I mean, I find this really interesting, but I do want to 656 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640 ask you, Ovie, what you think of that because you were the big 657 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Apecoin guy for the longest time on the show, like you were the 658 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320 one trading it and stuff like that, like. 659 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,080 What do you think? It was just a Apecoin for me. 660 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,240 It was just like it was a very simple play. 661 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,080 It was like stake it for the first. 662 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,200 Third of the year and then just sell it. 663 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,240 And that's exactly what I did. And that if you did that, you 664 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,960 would have made like two or three times your money. 665 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,680 But I think the problem is when people get attached to the 666 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,120 staking and they just hold it for too long. 667 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,400 But inevitably as with all these taking protocols, what happens 668 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560 is people just end up selling in the UN actually not making any 669 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,720 money by the end of it. So I think the plan it was to 670 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,440 buy eight when it sold off in December last year, stake it for 671 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,480 the first few months of the year and then sell all of it. 672 00:31:24,730 --> 00:31:26,730 Which is exactly what I did and I think that was the play. 673 00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:28,850 That's what happened. Like I think I maybe sold it 674 00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:31,490 like a little bit too early by two or three weeks, but 675 00:31:32,730 --> 00:31:35,370 definitely not too early by the in the context of where it is 676 00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:38,490 now. I love the comment. 677 00:31:39,130 --> 00:31:42,730 Eightcoin has gone fucked up. It's like a $1.00 now. 678 00:31:43,330 --> 00:31:45,610 Yeah, it can't even drop below $1.00 one of the days. 679 00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:49,730 Did it. Fuck it, it's cuz of beanie. 680 00:31:52,390 --> 00:31:54,950 Yeah, yeah, Beanie, call the token going lower. 681 00:31:57,710 --> 00:32:04,470 Five no, but I'm looking at this I'm just like that I'm like I 682 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:08,990 just I mean I guess the the so from me looking at this like for 683 00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:11,790 close your eyes it's not much you proposing this whatever of 684 00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:14,990 your thoughts are much you Big Brother like isn't that like 685 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:17,910 kind of bullish for the the the NFT's like. 686 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Nah, like they will pump for a hot 2nd and they'll sell off 687 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,440 again, but you're not gonna buy them back all at once. 688 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,720 Like, depends how they buy. Them. 689 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Turns out they buy them, yeah. Yeah, all right, that's 690 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,240 tranches. It says 11,000,008 coin in in in 691 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680 tranches. So anyways, I guess, I guess 692 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,560 we'll see what happens on that front and we'll see, but it 693 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,080 seems like Match is really the one that carrying the board at 694 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,400 the Out Club NFT. Is that if you owned apes and 695 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,640 you? Like you've had the liquidity to 696 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,240 sell your apes, right? Like, so maybe this does remove 697 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120 like if you're a large holder, you've had like blurs giving you 698 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,120 liquidity to get out of your apes so many different times. 699 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880 So I feel as though this probably does help. 700 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360 It'll probably reduce the number of holders, but it does help 701 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,800 clean up some of the like, right. 702 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,640 I just need to get out like just get me an actual price so. 703 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:13,810 Although I guess some of the Blur AirDrop farmers, they might 704 00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:15,970 they might have some bags they need to double check into it. 705 00:33:15,970 --> 00:33:17,530 I know Maxie can't sell his H, right? 706 00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:21,170 He cannot sell his H into this. No, that would be. 707 00:33:21,770 --> 00:33:23,490 I guess you could sell them to somebody else who then sells 708 00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:26,730 them into it, but I'm sure Maxie's not an idiot. 709 00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:31,330 But there is. Yeah, I think there is a there's 710 00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:33,810 a chance that this does help the floor price. 711 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:38,330 All I'm saying is nothing's ever been the same since you all left 712 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:42,130 the Yacht Club, you know? So, you know, ever since you 713 00:33:42,130 --> 00:33:45,130 guys sold I think. Crazily said that they were, 714 00:33:45,450 --> 00:33:47,570 they suddenly weren't cool yesterday and I was like, oh 715 00:33:47,570 --> 00:33:51,050 man, the moment he sold them, he's like, Oh yeah, not cool 716 00:33:51,050 --> 00:33:52,170 anymore. Oh yeah, yeah. 717 00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:54,890 Whenever you sell something, you already got a funding. 718 00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:56,890 Like that's the game that's part of crypto. 719 00:33:57,130 --> 00:33:59,130 It's like you're out. You would love something for 720 00:33:59,130 --> 00:34:00,930 year two years. You sell it. 721 00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:03,110 You have to hate it. I love it. 722 00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:05,270 I don't. I don't hate it. 723 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:08,429 But I've never thought they're cooler than crypto punks. 724 00:34:08,429 --> 00:34:09,949 Do I think they're a better trade than crypto punks? 725 00:34:09,949 --> 00:34:11,989 Yes, absolutely. But they were. 726 00:34:12,070 --> 00:34:15,989 Two different things, like me thinking something is a good 727 00:34:15,989 --> 00:34:18,909 trade or a good investment is not necessarily me thinking it's 728 00:34:18,909 --> 00:34:20,909 cool. I do think there was a time 729 00:34:20,909 --> 00:34:22,550 where you thought they were cooler than punks, though. 730 00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:27,469 No, like I even, I even said like, you know when people made 731 00:34:27,469 --> 00:34:30,310 fun of everyone like in the queue and all this kind of 732 00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:32,110 stuff, like it's just like a bunch of dudes and like. 733 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:34,739 I was like, yeah, I I completely get it. 734 00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:36,340 It is. It is exactly that. 735 00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:38,980 And it's definitely, it's maybe not somewhere where I would see 736 00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:41,380 myself personally, but at the end of the day, there are a lot 737 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:43,500 of people like that who who have demand for it. 738 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,060 So that's why it makes it a good trade that you don't have to 739 00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:49,300 like something yourself to want to invest in it or trade it. 740 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:52,380 You just have to appreciate the fact that there's enough people 741 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:54,860 out there who do who can then drive this value. 742 00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:57,420 And and that was my view on it. So that hasn't changed. 743 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,540 Yeah, I I definitely. Feel more accentuated now that I 744 00:35:01,580 --> 00:35:08,070 don't own any. But yeah, these. 745 00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:09,950 That's not Mando talking. That's Ovi. 746 00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:13,550 He's texting the chat. He's like, I ain't never seen 747 00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:16,750 Mando with the crypto pug PFP. You ask us. 748 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:24,910 That's the Ovi talking. It's so funny. 749 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:26,430 So I'm actually dying of this text, right? 750 00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:30,630 I can't. It's crazy as always, just 751 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:33,600 catching. I like you so funny. 752 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,280 This is down there. Oh, but this is because this is 753 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,680 what I get for using my phone like making breakfast. 754 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840 He's like, I never heard. Mando said punks were cooler 755 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,760 than apes. He's he's got the receipts. 756 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,480 Oh my God, dude. Wow. 757 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,680 I bet you can hear. I'm, I'm. 758 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,560 I keep running every all the windows are open here. 759 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,720 I bet you they can hear me from across the lake and zoo here. 760 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,280 Probably hear me. Hey, yo. 761 00:35:56,890 --> 00:36:01,090 Yoder on the hill Oh my God. I've been to practicing my 762 00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:03,850 yodering when I got here since last few days. 763 00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:07,530 I'm not gonna lie. Anyways so we do have I think 764 00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:11,450 that's that's it like a good wrap around topic wise right And 765 00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:13,090 I think I can move on to to the interview. 766 00:36:13,090 --> 00:36:14,810 Sorry. Y'all for the for the all the 767 00:36:14,890 --> 00:36:17,170 the organization shenanigans said I'm still getting used to 768 00:36:17,170 --> 00:36:18,570 the new format but I'm loving it. 769 00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,010 I'm loving the conversation dude. 770 00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:21,570 We get. Over speaking for the whole 771 00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:22,610 hour. That's crazy. 772 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,920 It's crazy. I'm so happy, right? 773 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,600 I'm so proud. He knows he's smiling because he 774 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,120 knows. I love that. 775 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,760 Off for half of it, but I like that though I I think like, I 776 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,000 think it's part of the lore, like they're eating walking off 777 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,920 doing that. I literally think this is part 778 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,800 of the shorts. I. 779 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Love this. It's going to shake. 780 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,040 Of course it's going to shake. I cannot wait to a golfing with 781 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,720 you next week anyways.