Yo-yo yo, what up? What up?
Good morning. Good morning MG Wednesday,
Wednesday, February 7th, 2024. Look at that.
Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day.
I got my coats and my friends in the house.
Oh, Seth, Red Beard, Loxley Mando.
How y'all doing today? Good.
Wow. Not everybody at the same time.
Amazing. I I don't know if you noticed,
but. Are you?
I've been building this tunnel. Well, we're almost there.
We're almost there. So we're building this tunnel
straight to Paris for NFT Paris this year.
Wow. So are you building a tunnel
from from from from Brooklyn all the way we we.
Had to bypass Brooklyn, obviously due to the
unfortunate, you know, situation there and they caught on to us.
So we went through Manhattan this time and we made a a right
a quick right through the Atlantic Ocean.
We're good though. Wow.
OK. Interesting.
I mean, look, they built it between, you know the UK and
France, you know the tunnel, soula monch.
So the the tunnel over there, you know if you've taken the
train between the two, between Paris and London, you probably
know what I'm talking about kind of freaky we, I took it with LOX
actually last time so so it's so we did that but you know from
from Brooklyn all the way to to France that's that's that's an
interesting one. I mean that's.
I mean, but you can see how structurally sound it is.
You know, this is we spent a lot of time on this.
I mean, it's been years that we've been building this one.
He was ahead of the curve. Well, actually, that's the whole
thing. They caught the guys in
Brooklyn, but they didn't find the other tunnels.
Yeah, it was like we were just like gave them like, here, go
get those guys. You know why?
We could just keep doing our tunnel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I
mean this is, this is great. I can't wait to see how your
tunnel is going to work out. And I hope that everything's
fine. I mean it looks like you've got
a lot of help going on on that front and it looks like you guys
have tried to successfully build 1 tunnel already out in Brooklyn
where Williamsburg that is and that worked out pretty well
until it didn't. So hopefully this one works out
well for you. Benny, what do you have on your
hands right now? Are you?
Is that an instrument? So I'm learning.
I'm learning the Lyra, so when I get to Paris I'll be able to
play a song. OK, I'm getting closer.
I I I'm finding out what each string represents here.
OK. So like for instance, like here
I could do this rec guy is a juice.
It's not a alcoholic drink it has, it's not an energy drink.
We think it may be water or some kind of fruit juice, but it's
wrecked there. You go wow.
OK, this is what I woke up early for.
Fully worth it in my opinion. This is definitely quite a start
to FOMO hour this morning, Episode 55 here.
You absolutely love to see it with everybody in the house.
We got a lot of fun stuff to talk about today.
We want to talk what we want to talk about today, Sims.
We want to talk art. We want to talk ordinals, we
want to talk NFTS. We're going to talk very little
market. This is just because personally
speaking, you know, kind of we talk so much market.
I mean it's doing, it's doing. We're gonna toss it to OV.
He can give us a TLDR of course, as usual.
But there's a lot of cooking on the ordinal side.
Loxy is our resident RSIC expert.
So I was talking to Loxy all over this thing.
So I kind of want to understand more of what's going on the RSIC
world. Penny is like both the puppets
king and ordinals expert and the champion of the art.
And we got not the one and only legend.
Ryan AK Thank you. X in the house here to talk
about to us about the state-of-the-art and what's
happening on the art side of NFTS and a crypto space in
general because it feels like we've kind of tapped out from
this a little bit where all the coin stuff.
And last but not least towards the end of the show around 11:15
AM Eastern Standard Time. I already see Joanna in the
studio in the in the in the in the in the on the space.
Let's see Fido Dido. We're going to be talking more
Fido Dido with all y'all. I know that's what a lot of
people are hyped about, man. This Fido Dido M efforts.
They get a lot of reminders, a lot of activity on the timeline.
This is something always known as something.
But anyways anyways anyways Ovi once you give us a quick.
Report brought to you by Rug Radio.
What's the word? Stocks are good.
Higher. Rates are good.
Lower. Crypto unchanged.
Juice higher. There you go.
There you go.
That's a great market report. Thank you.
Thank you very much. You.
Did do it quickly. I didn't think OSF.
OSF didn't have his rec juice yet.
That's the problem. Yeah, yeah.
He hasn't had his rec juice yet. I heard when you will have the
rec drink. I heard when you have a rec
drink immediately like you, you you you become better at in
tortoise paces. I'll have it with me next week
maybe. I love that.
I love you. Actually, they're like we've
manufactured them now they're done.
They're, they're still that distribution center.
Yeah, so I love that. We're gonna go check them out
next week. This is so fun.
This is awesome.
A look. Honestly, we you're right.
Like, we don't even have to go over it for an hour.
Like, Bitcoin's 43 KE is 2369. It was pumping yesterday, which
means that everything's about to dump Solana's $96.
And finally, the Jupiter pump or plunk plunge protection seems to
be going off today quickly. OV, did you look into that?
What does it mean for Jupiter? I saw Jupiter jump 10% on the
back of that. But what does that mean?
Yeah, it just means you know that they, the Tubes team was
providing dynamic liquidity for seven days on this.
So you know as the price got higher towards 0.7 or $7 billion
market cap, their team would have sold a bunch of tokens and
as it went lower, they would have sold fewer tokens.
So it kind of had like pump protection mechanism on it, but
also the plunge protection mechanisms mechanism on it as
well because they're also bidding for people's air drops.
And that dynamic liquidity provision is ending today.
So you know there's an argument to say it should go higher
because there's now no cap on it and we kind of had the dump and
people have had seven days to sell their air drop and you you
would have thought most people have sold now.
So it could be, it could be interesting.
I think I I kind of do expect it to go higher.
Yeah, yeah, definitely we'll see what happens.
Listen, I am definitely needing it to go higher OV let me tell
you that. So hopefully you know we're
we're over with that. Yeah, I think I'll be fine.
I I think, I think I think I'll be fine on that front and and
we'll see what happens over there.
But anyways anyways let's pass on to the other stuff because
definitely not here to talk markets today.
What should we start with? Honestly, I think we should
start with ordinals and what's happening in that ecosystem.
And actually it works out pretty well because, you know,
obviously, Ryan, you had to drop more recently with terrains that
that sold out instantly. Locksley, you're all over the
RSIC and Redbeard. You've been, you know, screaming
about ordinals since early on. I know you have a lot of early
inscriptions. It was last February, You were
all over it. But also you are Lydia, master
puppeteer yourself. Some seem to sink, just myself.
I'm just extrapolating here that you are the puppeteer Foo and
you're a part time when you're not running.
I I wish I I have a lot of respect for the head puppeteer.
I think with the his Twitter is unmatched and in my one of my in
my opinion is one of the best so.
But I do love puppets. I love puppets on ordinals and I
also just happen to love puppets, you know in general.
I think puppets are great. I play with puppets all the time
with my kids you know so like to me it's just an easy one.
Now, these puppets, if I made them into real puppets, I
probably couldn't use them with my children.
That would probably be a bad idea considering they're, you
know, mature puppets, I would say.
But I could see this be like a Broadway show.
Like, what's that Muppet show that they have on Broadway
Avenue? Q Think.
Right, Ryan. Right.
So they could have, like, a Bitcoin puppet Broadway show.
I think it would be phenomenal just throwing that out there.
Yeah. OK, well, I love that.
I love what's happened on that front.
Look, there seems to be a lot of, a lot of conversation around
the Bitcoin ecosystem and what's going on there.
So I'll, I'll, I'll just, I'll just go right into, I mean,
Ryan, good morning. How you doing today?
GM I'm doing great. You know, I I haven't had my
morning coffee because who needs it when you got this crew and
you got Benny with his little puppet stuff and his his
instruments, you know? He he left the tunnels it seems
like he's back now at school and no longer playing an instrument
on the feed. I I need to be posting the I'll
I'll post the stream right now as soon as I have it.
Sims Sims stream please so we can post it on the on the on the
timeline but Ryan I mean you recently had a drop on on
Bitcoin with the ordinals the terrains and everything and
that's doing pretty well. I was looking into it yesterday
with locks, which is pretty cool.
I mean what would you say, what would you say, what would you
say your experience has been so far like dropping on ordinals
and and and obviously like how it was received and what you
know what and the activity at the moment?
Yeah, I mean, First off it was like an amazing experience
because it sold out fast and just the response to the artwork
was really cool. Obviously there's a lot to fix
there. A long term, like, it's a very
clunky, slow process. But I actually think that's
that's good for right now because it the people who are
going over there, it seems like they're betting on themselves in
a big way. So it's kind of like, you know,
harder to do, like a quick pump kind of thing without actually
putting money into it, I guess. So, you know, you kind of have
to believe in yourself. But the experience I had with
like the people there is just, it's been great, actually.
Benny introduced me to some cool people.
And then, yeah, I like everyone's like, you know, open
arms. They want art there.
They want to help. Like it's it's kind of how I
felt with NFTS in 2020. You just ask questions and
people someone will answer them. So like yeah, that that for me
was like the biggest thing, just me asking people questions.
I was super confused about it. Still a little bit confused like
I don't fully, I'm diving more into like the tech side because
right now what I did is I launched it direct through Magic
Eden. It was a very straightforward
process, but now for the next thing I'm working on, it's using
the tech in a way that could only be done on on Bitcoin.
Yeah, I I think, you know, shout out to, I want to say rip cash,
rip cash a first, because I feel like he was one of the original
artists. Billy Resta also was very early
on. And I checked in with both those
guys. Those guys helped me.
I like go find people. If you're lucky, if you're an
artist, like DM, other artists who have done it or who are
like, you know, maybe you've never heard of them, but you see
them in the ecosystem because everyone's really willing to
help. And like both those guys helped
a lot and actually ex ULO as well.
Yeah, ex ULO. Like, I feel like, you know, you
know those artists, you know, especially like you know, Billy
and RIP, they were so early in not just inscribing on to
Bitcoin. To be fair, I feel that they
were also very early on understanding the chain.
You know, I had a whole conversation with Ryan, thank
you X, about before he did the drop.
And I thought he did such a great job of really like
understanding the culture that's there.
I keep advising artists and people who are building there.
Like if you want to do this, yeah, I have no problem.
It's like, like building on any chain to me is important.
But I would say you have to do your research.
You know you're going to come in there.
And what especially about that crowd, if you feel that you're
going to come in there and be like, oh, I'm going to get a
sell out, I will say about the Bitcoin Ordinal crowd, is that
there, there, there. It's not 2020, There's a little
bit of an edge, a little bit more of information that they
have. So they're, you know, they're
gonna smell things out that they feel are more of just money
grabs. I don't think that they care
that people make money. I think what they care about is
essentially is that if you wanna make money, have a little
respect for what we're building here so you you understand that
process of it. So I keep advising people like
look you wanna go do it, do it, but don't do it the wrong way.
You know like on chain monkey they've done it the right way.
They've done their research they're putting it, really
bringing people over. I, I, I, I I'm not I I I think
multi chain is very important in our space and I have no problem
with it. But do your research.
I think it's the same thing with Seoul.
Like they have their own, you know, shout out to like you
know, Goku for being so early on Seoul.
But they had like a whole community of people who were end
up putting stuff on there. And then, you know, if you just
throw something out there, it's it's not going to always do
well. But you can't blame the
community. They're looking sometimes for
different things. So I advise everybody to do that
research. One thing that was cool for me
is I think also it's important not to just go and only try to
like get something from the Bitcoin community, try to bring
something into the community. So, like, if you're an artist
and you've been doing well on Solana or Bitcoin, try to
educate your current collectors or audience on how to make that
transition with you. For two reasons.
One, it's great for the whole ecosystem to bring more people
over there, too. It gives you a little bit more
of like a safety net of like, OK, well, these people are
supporting me. They're going to come with me on
this journey. I'm not alone.
We had like 50 people sign up for X Versus wallets in my
collector's Discord, which is huge.
Like to to experiment on a new thing they've never tried
before, like 50 people. That was crazy to me.
So like, yeah, I'm bullish on that, but I think you really do
need to help bring your audience a little bit at least or educate
them. Yeah, I have a song coming up.
Do your research. Do your research for sure.
There's a lot of stuff happening on there.
Speaking of, I love that. Speaking of ordinals, Bitcoin
and everything else happen at Ecosystem and Loxley.
You're all over this RSIC stuff and I was saying on the show
yesterday with OVI was like Loxley never apes anything.
Like you'll get stuff small like you'll do like small like you'll
nibble with us. But like when it comes to us
like I'll be the complete DJ and behind the scenes at rug video
and you're more like, you know you're you're very smart
investor and stuff like that. But you never tend to go all
into something. Yeah, I'm a.
Dad, you're a dad of three and like, I've seen you go all in
and you're so deep. You're like reading the KC
Rotomor, like GitHub and everything.
So can you give us the TLDR? Because I haven't been able to
really have someone on the show come and talk about it yet,
because it's up only so. Far few few things first like
I'll hop into that in a in a second.
But I do want to say really funny story for for for Ryan is
Feroke and I were in Switzerland at dinner with a group from
Binance and one of these guys from Barcelona that we had just
met said he's he's been collecting ordinals.
He goes, hey, have you guys ever heard of thank you X And we and
we said, yeah, we've heard of him.
And he said, hey he's dropping this.
It was like the day before the the day before your trains drop.
He said, hey, this is like one of like the first top fine
artist to come on to Bitcoin And that's cool.
And I was like, yeah, he's like, I'm, he's like, he's like I'm
minting it. It's like amazing.
So like that being said, Speaking of like going going
back to this whole thing, bringing, bringing something to
the chain, there's a lot of incredible things that are
happening on Bitcoin. But just like, you know, Benny
was saying to shout out, to rip cash, shout out to to to Ryan.
I think it takes a lot of nerve to to go from building an
audience both with your physical IRL work, but then also a very
Ethereum native audience and bringing those users because
that's the other thing too, right?
Is it's like it's not like you just brought Bitcoin to your
users, you bought, you brought your, your collectors, your user
base to Bitcoin, right? So super.
I thought that was super cool. But going back to the ARSIC
thing, yeah, you know froak's right.
Like I really, I really don't have a tendency to ape stuff.
I'll nibble in a lot of things for me.
I found myself historically very early to a lot of things but not
doing but not taking size chances.
I think on this on this whole deal it it it clicked like I'm
looking at I'm looking at the runes allocation.
I'm looking at you know my investment thesis.
Froak knows this like the reason that I that I invest in things
both in my, you know, IRL portfolio as well as like my my
digital portfolio is less about speculation, more about the
potential for positive cash flow and the potential for
sustainability. And not investment advice
obviously, but looking at looking at what the R6 are doing
in this idea of mining runes, you know, a new asset class
native to Bitcoin that is opening up a lot of like smart
contract capability ish, we'll call it right.
Like for for the Etherium based crowd, the parody there really
is like smart contract like capabilities and true fungible
tokens. It felt to me like an
opportunity to get into something fresh that mirrored
success stories from other chains that we saw in the past.
And to really just take a bite into something that I didn't
think was high was high risk. I thought it felt pretty.
But there's other, there's other ruins.
So just to be of course, Casey Ryder has been talking about
doing runes. This is not his runes, if that's
a different Runes 1. 100% so there's multiple runes projects.
And and Leonidas is doing a runes project, so this this is
from an unknown. There's R6 there's there's the
there's Runestone there's Runex you know and obviously like you
know Casey going in and and pioneering and writing these
white papers on this runes protocol is just you know this
is this is just another thing the the reality is I think they
dropped the AirDrop very well thought out very well
distributed. The amount of people who are
buying into the game theory see this is the other thing too is
it's one thing to have a static allocation in AirDrop, it's
another thing to engage the community and sometimes you know
the implementation of game theory is mid curving and
overthinking it. In this case, I think it you
know we're looking at 70 days until the having until you know
Runes protocol becomes available and I think this is something to
keep the community engaged, keep them interested and give them a,
you know the opportunity to educate themselves while you
know we get to that point. If it says allocation, is that
is that what I'm getting? Or do I have to hold the actual
runes in order to get that allocation?
When I look it up, when I look up my is it?
Wait, is it your birthday? No, but this like new Apple Mac
OS update is so annoying. It's so annoying.
Happy birthday to. You.
It's not even this birthday, but happy.
Birthday. Annoying the whole thing like.
It. Throws all these like things and
it bugs up your computer all the time like this.
It is horrible. You'll be in the middle of an
important meeting with a huge client and you'll be like this
and it'll send a bubble up and you look so stupid.
But anyways, what do you think here like this is?
I find this whole thing fascinating.
So it's like a new standard. So it's not a BRC, it's a rune.
And for what's worth, like runes is something Casey's working on.
There's going to be more runes. This seems to be like an
interesting use case. Like this is arguably the first
successful AirDrop on Bitcoin, right?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong it's.
No, I'm making the largest ordinals ordinals, and it's up
to .12, seven Bitcoin. So Ovi, now we're talking about
this yesterday or something. Like we don't remember last time
an AirDrop was worth like 2 ETH. Yeah.
If you look at, if you look at the market cap right, without
considering rarities and and variability on floor, just based
off floor price, it's $100 million AirDrop currently,
right? Yeah.
It makes it like the largest AirDrop I would.
Consider Bitcoin Cash. Probably an AirDrop way bigger
than this, just to be fair, to give them like just, I mean that
was an AirDrop, essentially it was just free money of a coin,
whatever. But from an from really an
ordinal standpoint, I mean, yeah, this is, they crushed it,
you know, the way they got out of it, they they they sent them
out allocation to me. I thought it was just kind of
easy when I bought them, you know, there were some rumors
that they didn't like the person who created it.
Anytime there's something that has negative press, I usually
buy it, 'cause I'm just like, OK, that means price went down.
They agree with locks. The whole idea of it kind of
looked interesting. But I I think the bottom line is
it just comes down to is just like, look, don't just buy
anything that's going on ordinals, cause a lot of stuff
is being minted right now. You know, definitely take a look
at the inscription numbers and whatnot.
But now we're seeing that projects are making a big
difference. So like, you know, quantum cats
dropped yesterday, man. And I mean it exploded so.
So what I'll say what I'll say back to the to this this arsic
thing though. Benny is you're right, there
will be Runes projects across the board, right?
There's and this is just one of them.
That being said, like I have like I intend to diversify and I
will grab a bag of a new Runes project that I think is going to
be successful because I'm excited about what this runes
protocol means. And really like I, I, I actually
told this I tell this to Froak every single day.
I don't believe in reinventing things, right.
It's like we're talking about iterative improvements just
incremental improvement. And when you look at the ruins
protocol and the incremental improvement over BRC 20 over you
know, and really just taking what we saw on other chains and
bringing that functionality to Bitcoin, for me, I I think we're
opening up a door to a lot of interesting potential liquidity
speculation because you know, Casino, Pondanomics, whatever
you want to call it and I'm excited for it.
OK, this is really cool. I'd love to see that.
Speaking of, you know, everything going on, ordinals
and stuff. I'm assuming everybody saw the
quantum cats and and what's happening with UDI here
yesterday. Ovi, yours and I's prediction
was a .2 BTC. Did you say .2 point?
32 I think we said .25 or something like that.
Yeah, it actually. Opened at point 2:00-ish and is
now sitting at 0.32 Bitcoin floor cat.
Which, by the way, by the way, I'm going to be switching mine,
so I don't want to hear it. When you see a cell broadcasted
because it would be a buy broadcasted right after it, OK,
'cause I see those and I'm like, damn, I want this one with the
fucking the wizard stars on it, or these ones I like when
they're like all shadowy and stuff.
What do we, what do we, what do we think happens here with this
quantum cast? They've opened with 265 Bitcoin
volume already, 2700 owners, 3300 total supply.
It's really wild. Like, is this like really where
like ordinals just take all the energy away on the NFT front
from from Ethan Solana? Because at the moment, like,
he's really taking off a lot of the attention.
I don't know if it takes away all the energy from Ethan
Solana. I think there's still a lot
going on there. Ordinals still feels like to me
like more of like a niche group of people.
Anyway, this is a collection of 3333 that was a 0.1 Bitcoin min.
So that's not going to like attract loads of new people.
I think it's just people within the ecosystem still.
But you know, that being said, I think this collection will do
really well. And if you have the more
successful projects you have on ordinals, the more people start
to enter that space and try and make some money.
So yeah, I think I think this will continue to do pretty well.
It's like like when I think ordinals for some reason, I just
think UDI and this is like the UDI project, you know what I
mean? So it just it just it just feels
like it's going to be like the new like face of ordinals for a
while and if it goes higher than I think it will bring everything
along with it. I would.
Say that this is one of the. This is like one of the
collections that I saw, people that aren't normally in ordinals
even, but that are kind of like bigger names posting all over
the timeline. So this was like, this took over
the timeline. Like normally like when I see an
ordinals drop, it's like a specific group, but this one
kind of seemed to bleed out beyond that.
Yeah, And I mean, the fact that the Mint didn't go well and it's
still doing well is testament to Udi, his team, far and what
they're building over there, but also that people are taking this
seriously. Look, I I think that I keep
saying this. I've been saying it since the
first day I came on rug to talk to you guys about this.
You know, ignoring something because you don't like it is
always a big mistake, I think, in this space, especially when
the bull market's around the corner, I mean.
But I do agree with Seth, while this is fun and nice and
everything, we're still waiting for that other shoe to drop, in
my opinion, right? So for to me, I think the other
shoe is for this to work, I I mean is you need a very big
account like Michael Saylor to be like, hey, I just bought a
cat for 10 Bitcoin. People forget that like in in
NFTS early on that's what happened, right?
That somebody bought a punk for $2,000,000 or an 8 for
$5,000,000 and that that like made a mad rush for everything
else in the market. So like we're looking at these
Bitcoin prices and we're like, OK, it's .33 BTC, how many, how
much is that in dollars of OSF? That's like what?
I don't know offhand, 14,000, so it's like 8 ether right around.
So something like that. It's at 9 ether.
Whatever it is, it's. Less than that.
Six and. Six like 6 and a bit, yeah.
All right. So these are 6.5 S So just so
just and again and this is like all speculation obviously, but
if we do believe Bull market's coming back and we do believe
NFTS can come back, I, I, I remember we were trading apes,
you know, way higher and the floor was insanely higher.
So to me, again, I don't know if this is for sure going to work
out, but if it does, I see there's a lot of room to grow
here versus the fact that it's like, oh, we've already, you
know, this may be like, you know, that's expensive already,
but that's that feeling you got when NFTS were a thing back in
2019 and 20 when people like, oh man, it's already A10 ether and
then all of a sudden it's like a floor for 100 ether, right.
So I I think people should should always collect NFTS very
strategically and smartly, but to ignore it would be a gigantic
mistake in my opinion. Yeah, I mean it's going to be
interesting to see how this evolves.
When it comes to to the cats and stuff, there's a lot of
conversation around like if is this going to lead to tappet
Wizards. Once the second collection one I
see someone in the chat talking about, you know, it's so weird
when the secondary collection is mentioned before the 1st.
The thing is, we don't really know what or how.
We just know that, you know Udi and his Udinals and the Udiats
are building this and we like Udi.
I'm calling Udiats because that's what this Bitcoin Max is
called that don't like him by the way.
It's not in no way, shape or form.
What I feel and how I feel about Udi and his team definitely love
them and here to support them. So I find this super cool, but
this all leads me to another conversation that I really
wanted to have here with you guys.
I mean, state-of-the-art state-of-the-art in NFTS.
Our boy OV at the end of this month hasn't meant let's fucking
go PD5I can't wait to see it. But you know Ryan, what is going
on in art these days? I know some people love to say,
you know, the art is dead, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
But there's a lot of stuff going on regardless.
Like what? Are there some things I've
caught your attention, your eye recently on the art side of
crypto? I mean, yeah, I've been paying a
lot of attention to ordinals, to be honest.
And yeah, I don't know. That's been my main focus
personally, like you're. Seeing kind of like follow suit.
There's some artists that are working on some things that it's
like it's it's a little loaded question because I think right
now is a little bit from the artist release side.
It's it's a calm before the storm.
I think there's a lot of stuff being built right now and
collections and things that are being built.
I don't know, Benny, what? What do you think?
I see Benny. Smile like he knows something.
No, I'm laughing because I found that there's a comment section
and someone wrote his name is Mando's forehead.
Anyone seen my Vaseline? I can't find it anywhere and I'm
just I I didn't know that Mando has forehead has its has its own
account which is. Is your your looks?
Used to have an account, now it's his forehead.
Well, I mean, his forehead is gigantic now that we're on the
topic talking. I see.
Why is Mando catching strays? He's not even on the show right
now. I know, I see.
Speaking of the challenge, usually Mando's forehead.
Dude, hold on, I got to take a screenshot.
I. Leave that on screen for me.
OK, got it. That's crazy, bro.
The idea, Benny, is that like Mando and Ovi's foreheads, like
average each other out. That's true, because like, Obi
doesn't really have a forehead and Mando has a gigantic
forehead, so. If you Obi has like a three
head, Mando has A5 head. You could fit You could fit like
like almost all of Ovi's face inside Mandos forehead.
So it'd be kind of weird if we did that and like Ovie's face
was here. What about Betty's?
Betty's goes beyond his head. Yeah, I don't really have.
I have no forehead or head. It's just a mix.
So Betty, what are you're like literally the champion of the
art? You are literally like you're
like a modern day you know Medici, literally patron of the
arts. You help us a lot on the rug
reader, the crypt side with art. You are creating an insane line
up of panels from France. You already created a great one
for our house in Miami that we did.
I know what you up to. I see you collecting.
I know you participated in the Sotheby's last grail sale.
I think you bought one of the the Cherniak piece like.
So tell me like what's happened on the art side, you know
because a lot of people love to, you know consider it dead
because all the other stuff is trading.
But I'm pretty sure there's a lot happening.
Yeah, I mean, I I I think that, you know, we use it.
You know, we ask the question is like art dead in this community.
And I find it funny because art never dies, right.
So like the idea that it's dead maybe is that some people have
stopped collecting. They think that it's interesting
we're going into a new phase. I think you have collectors
who've had spent a lot of money in the past who are not spending
money right now who are looking for different venues of of
helping artists in connecting to institutions.
I think you have newer collectors that are coming in
interestingly enough that you know, probably sold off the last
bear cycle and are coming in with some money.
And then I think you definitely have some funds quietly that
have been raising a lot of money that are starting to buy slowly.
You know, like me personally, I I'm, I'm very patient when it
comes to the art market. I think that you know, you know,
if you're going to buy something, to think, to flip it,
in my opinion is that you shouldn't be buying it.
I think that if you're coming in to collect, obviously you want
to make money. Not everybody wants to be a
patron, which is totally fine also.
But overall, Paris is packed, People are doing projects and if
if if we already went through a bear again if I don't know if we
did or not depending on OS, FS mood during the.
No, no he's not. He's back.
It was a 24 hour. OK, fine.
He's back. He's.
Back and also like he had a tiny baby bear in him even after that
for a little bit, but it seems like it's kind of like.
I'm back. OSF is back.
He had his. Period.
But it's over. And now he's collecting art and
making art again. This is how you get the royalty
free songs. There you.
Go I do want to point out like if.
You. OK, so like, because I've been
paying a lot of attention to ordinals like what Billy has
done with bit blocks has been incredible.
What Hardo has done with the Golden Ratio, those to me like
are some of the best collections that I've seen.
Like golden Ratio was something that I was like, oh, OK like, I
understand, like people are going to understand this.
I'm like a big way and what he's doing and it he has something
free coming out that he's doing. And this is actually really
important because he partnered with the Belvedere Museum to
release a free mint on ordinals and it's called floor forms.
And I don't know, I think it's dropping soon, but it's like, I
know they're like, you know, setting up a lot of list and
stuff like that right now. But it's basically like art
based off of like the museum's collection which and it's a free
mint. So like to me, you have
institution paying attention to ordinals, you have a known
artist there with a very successful cool collection doing
it and they're doing it for free.
So it's A to me that's like a cool onboarding system, you
know? And then.
Yeah, and. Then E33.
I don't know if you guys know him.
I think E33 is going to be the breakout like generative kind of
AI star. I think like this year maybe or
one of them, I've just been and I've basically they caught my
eye on their timeline and I was like, holy shit, I just found
your work, whatever. Like it's amazing.
And then he replied, he's like, oh, I'm actually part of a Dow
that acquired your Solana piece, you know, whatever.
So like, he's been doing like both sides for a while.
And I don't know, to me that's very interesting.
I think if you go look at Echo, it's Echo. 33 Work on one find
that if they're curious. Yeah, it's.
It's on Twitter. You could just look up E33.
But the spelling. Is.
EEKO 33. I just and I just want to add to
this like the the art market is is not dead.
You know, I, I, I, I think people need to realize that
there are some really amazing artists that are are working
behind the scenes that have some tremendous art coming out this
year. I think that, you know I think
that we have to like stop as a community in my opinion to be so
into these ideas of like what's next, right.
Like you know, we have like, yeah, we have like what the meta
how. Good is this art, though.
How good is this art? It's he's great.
They were great. I should say.
I don't know if it's a hitters. That's cool.
But I think that we have to get out of this meta of like what's
next? Where am I going to get next.
Can I get the white list, allow you know allow list excuse me.
And I think that we have to focus on the the fact that
there's some really great artists who are doing some stuff
like look Avant I think is is pounding out some amazing work
shout out to Abigail and that team.
The map piece that they just put out was amazing.
The, the map, the map and piece was great and I think that let's
we'll also talk about how the next 2-3 months, excuse they're
gonna be the last two bright moments events.
You know what Seth and his brother have done has been so
tremendous for the digital art space and they've done these 12
shows and they're up to their last two.
It's historical for our team. You know we can't we keep
sitting in this moment in time and not realizing that there's
this larger sort of broader picture to all of this, right.
So instead of us focusing on the fact that Seth is and Bright
Moments is having their last two shows, while that feels like a
really cool moment right now, I can promise you if Digital Art
Renaissance is real 1020 years from now, they're going to go
back and talk about those 12 shows.
They're going to talk about every artist that participated
in that. So I think if you're collecting,
you have to realize that the longevity of this is not a
moment in time, but everything that's happening.
Look, Nate, Alex is coming out with a new project.
Yes, Sir. I told him to come on the show.
He got it, he. Also, I think Benny, though
don't you think it could be both a moment in time?
Oh for. Sure.
I'm saying enjoy. Yes, enjoy it now.
But, like, give yourself a little foresight that you're
gonna talk about this and someone's gonna be one day like
I, you know, Oh, those bright moment shows I heard were
amazing. And you're like, well, I got to
go to three of them, right? I have art that I own from some
of them. I think that that's the moment
we're we're focused in on now for art, in my opinion in the
community rather than being in a sense of like speculation when
it comes to what you know what's next and and and and not because
he's here. I'm going to be very honest.
But shout out to OSFOV who who's proved that with red light
district right, who has shown that given given the piece of
art that if you believe in him, he will continuously keep
building his career, possibly by giving back to you and and what
he does. But those people feel a sense of
connection to that and I think that that's what you need to do
more and more, otherwise it becomes speculation.
And it to me that that's that takes away from the art itself.
Yeah, I'm. Going to interrupt you real
quick. Yeah, I I think, you know, I get
AI get a chance to talk to a lot of the red light District
holders and there's something really special.
I think that's happened with red light District, where I don't, I
don't think the majority of them are thinking about speculation
and price, nor are they thinking about the art of the red light
district. They're thinking about the
artist behind it, right. And that's that's an important
connection. Yeah, I think so.
I think that, yeah, listen, you know.
I like the. I like the idea of just like
being random on Twitter and coming across this space for the
first time. And then you just cut in during
that part and they're like, they got speculation on the red light
district and they're like. What the heck?
What is this red light district you guys are talking?
About how do you speculate on that?
And like even and there's so much going on.
Like Pindar has a drop that's coming up with NFT Paris, which
looks amazing. Actually.
I'm I'm really excited about the Pindar thing.
I I was on the spaces with him yesterday hearing about it with
NFT Paris. And I love his stuff, I mean.
You know he's he's. A great artist.
And yeah, he's giving away a lot of stuff in person as well as in
Paris and. I was gonna, and that's what was
gonna end with the fact that we're all in NFT Paris.
Artists creators. I mean it's I I to me it's it's
it's it's it's like, hey, we're still alive.
We're still here. You know it's like from that
cartoon. What was that movie We are Here.
We are here from Horton Hears a Who and I feel like that's what
we're all doing and shouting until it gets out to the
ecosystem of the world. But we just got to keep doing
that and to me, I think we're getting closer and closer to
that that that really. Speaking of NFT Paris, I do want
to just shout I am doing like a display at NFT Paris with my
art. So I.
Yes. Oh, nice.
So, Ryan, how did you? Do How did you do that I.
Was like, can't wait to go to your dinner at NFT Paris.
And I was like, where's my invite?
And then Ryan, I had the nerve to say I was invited and he
didn't. Did you ever check your chat?
Maybe you never checked him. See.
No, but I'm. I'm.
I'm doing a little dinner, but it's.
But yeah, it's with Maker's Place.
And if you want to see my art at NFC Paris, it's at the Maker's
Place booth. I have a big new piece to
display. Yeah.
OK, love that. Wait, how did you?
How do you do this do? You Mac OS update like you have
to update your computer. I don't.
I don't update. I don't.
Get it? I I don't.
I don't understand. I don't update my wife.
Yeah, we can. Tell my OS.
Yeah, yeah, we can tell you don't update your computer.
Yeah, we we, yeah, we know. We know.
I don't clean it. I don't clean my computer and
well, this is what I'll do. If I need to update my computer
or clean my computer, I'll just get a new computer.
Smoking like a true crypto bro, You guys.
You guys crack me up. Look, I there's a obviously like
a bunch of stuff I, I, I I'd love to keep, you know, talking
about when it comes to art and when a lot of cool stuff
happened in the space. In my opinion, there's a lot of
things going down right now we can we should definitely like
run this group back like at least like once a week or every
other week to talk more art stuff on the show.
Because I know, obviously Rd., Roger Dickerman doing this 24
hours in art every day, which is really cool, helps you, you
know, obviously everybody get up to date with everything, but you
know it's good to have an update every now and then on what is
going in the art space. The other thing, and last thing
I had here on the art side, and then I definitely want to get
the Fido Dido team up on video with us, 'cause I know y'all
came here to listen to them. And Joe Farroni, she's like,
dude, I she's like like Super G, like super OG, the coolest
person I've ever met. She even came to the art house,
she pulled up and like a scooter on a Vespa and I'm like who The
Who the fuck is this pulling up in our driveway in a Vespa?
And it was Joanna Ferrone. So I'm telling you I cannot wait
to get in with it, into it with her quickly though, bottom right
purple box, hit that retreat button because we are giving
another $1000 on the show today. We have been giving $1000 every
single day on the show until we run out of the 15K.
So I think we're like 11K deep and we're going to give it away
to someone that's listening. So if you're not listening well,
you're not getting $1000. I'm.
I'm listening. Does that count?
Listening but you you have enough $1000 you're not getting
it and so you have to retweet follow FOMO hour and follow roll
become. And just so you all know
yesterday I understand that the the the loot boxes were
underwhelming. It was my fault.
I messed it up. We fixed it.
So the two people that won the loot boxes yesterday you get to
re roll on Friday. So hopefully you make a whole
lot of money. The last thing that I thought
was really cool on the art side. I know, I know I don't.
I don't This is like sensible sensitive topic of conversation
for Crypto Punks was the Nina Chanel Abney collaboration with
Punks that went down and that was enough yesterday.
But we can probably have a whole conversation about another time
because I don't want to like go over it too much because I know
it's going to cause a little debate.
But Crypto Punks are an art disruption in the best way.
As the inaugural artist for the Crypto Punks NFTS Punkin
Residence program, I'm excited to be expanding my web three
knowledge and be joining this iconic community as Punk 72.
So it seems like you got like, you know part of the residency
program gave Nina Chanel a punk which is Punk 72 which is Daft
Punk which by the way like fire with the.
I mean obviously that's not the actual background of it but I
just realized that the blue and blue background slaps like that
and looks like Nina Chanel will be making like her old
collection like a derivative collection using the crypto punk
stuff. So obviously, like when it comes
to crypto punk, you know, I know, I know, some people don't
like it when people touch Punk's IP and everything.
And the punk's chat Yesterday it was rolling rolling in a debate
and you'd love to see that. But what are the original
thoughts here? What is this?
What is this Stage's original thoughts on on this collection
I. Think I'd love to speak.
So I I've been a fan of Nina before Web three.
I think she's fantastic. I think when I saw her paying
attention to Web Three I I was very happy.
I, you know, I own her go to NFTI am like optimistic about
what this will be. I think it was, you know, I, it
was an interesting choice to to go for the artist residency
program to go like outside of the community, I think was an
interesting choice but like I'm, I'm not ready to like say it's a
bad choice because it could be this amazing thing.
And I believe in Nina and I think that she's great and I,
you know, yeah, it's it's interesting.
And I think anytime the punks, whoever's running, the punks of
the time does anything, they'll get a lot of love and they'll
get a lot of hate. It happened when Matt and John
were running it. They would do something.
Everyone would hate them, Then other people would love them.
I mean, they got kind of ousted though, you know, with a big
ticket. I I agree.
I'll see. I wanna.
I wanna add this. This is really important.
This is a woman. This is an African American
woman. I think it's important.
We do not talk. We do not give women or
minorities a loud enough voice in this space and for them to
pick her who is a supreme artist.
She's not just a woman and an African American.
She's also like talented artist, right?
Freaking artist. That top, top level.
Tier. Top level and for for.
Punks in my opinion, which is the top level collection in our
space to do this and to I credit Yuga for this to say like hey,
we need to people for other people to take punk seriously
the same way we do. I think this is the best bridge
to do it right. You're giving them a voice,
You're giving a importance to it.
It's not like it's really hurting the IP as much as
everybody's saying. I mean, look, I just think I.
Don't think you can hurt the IP, really.
Like, no, I just can't. I take the argument, you know,
look, what do you think here you want to jump in?
No, no, I felt both. I felt both ways about this
actually. I felt I felt up and down about
this yesterday and let me explain really quickly.
You need the down 1st and then the up.
Like Peroke and like Ryan, I was a fan of Nina Chanel for a long
time. Like, who isn't right?
The Downside and Froak, you know, convinced me that maybe I
need to see the other side is. As a relatively young punk but a
fan of the punks, for a long time, I have seen them and hoped
that they would be given the room to breathe as artifacts.
And that's what they are, right? They're historical artifacts and
they're and they're perfectly beautiful as is.
And my my original reticence was around this idea that Yuga as an
entity who now owns that IP might impose on not the art, but
on the institution of punks some mechanics that don't need to be
there. And now I'm recognizing more you
know largely in in you know things to Faro Ryan also like
you saying that this idea of artists in residence brings a
lot of validity validation I would say right to the digital
art space and that we're taking traditionally accepted fantastic
fine artists and showing that they are part of this
institution. And I'm I'm, it's growing on me.
And and one thing too is that it's it's not just picking a
random artist that has never paid attention.
It's like she's been part of GOTA.
She's I I know she owns like some doodles, you know from
early on, like when she when they were launching GOTA, she
got on stage and I was like. I was.
Oh, we host. Oh, OK.
We we host. She's been to multiple IRL.
I've I ran into Nina Chanel like a 2-3 events easy over the last
two years. Last year I.
So when I was listening to that spaces, I was like, oh, like,
OK, what's she doing? And then she starts talking
about how she's like, you know, flipping doodles and like, she's
like, I'm like what she knows about Doodle.
Like it was, I was like shocked, you know, because I was like, at
that time, it wasn't a big thing for, you know, top tier artists
like that to come into Web Three.
And I say top tier, like, you know, every museum wants her
kind of thing, not like. Just she's cool.
Or has a lot of followers like she's like very desired artist
in the traditional world so and that to me is like a good thing
that she she knows what she's doing.
She understands the space and she like she said in her post
she wants to you know dive deeper into it and I like that
she gave punks like you know the credit of like this is the top
tier collection da da da. So like to me I'm I'm bullish on
that and I I don't think that I've ever seen something where
like I've been disappointed by something she's done.
So I'm, I'm optimistic in that side.
But yeah, I'm you know, only time will tell like let's see
how it goes. But I I think why not cheer her
on and support and because if if everyone starts to like, it's
like even within the community like why would she want to be
part of the community if if everyone's like in the crypto
punks, you know, like I'm a crypto punk holder.
So like you know, you saw the chat yesterday that was like it
was going for her, you know, whatever.
But like if it's bad, then why would she even want to keep the
punk? She would just sell it and then
be like, you know, I don't even want to be part of that
community after that. And so why not welcome her with
open arms at this point? And like, let's just support and
hope for this. And like Benny said, like we
don't have a lot of people like that in the space, so like, why
don't we? Why don't we support You want to
hate the You want to hate the idea?
That's fine. But hating on the artist?
I never understand. No, of course, I think people
know. I think the business I heard.
Loxley, you got to stop hating. It's not cool.
Yeah, locks. Come on.
Yeah, locks could not. Be that guy, these people.
Are not hating on the artist. And art people are very just
like punks in general, like loving.
People like careful. I just want to worry about.
Yuga because like a Yuga initiative.
Like, Oh my God, you guys. Are gonna like I do.
Go ahead, let's go to you 'cause you haven't.
I've spoken yet and you have a fire, punk.
So what are your? Thoughts I I see what locks is
saying. I think there's I think there's
two sides of the coin here and one side is like one side of it
is this is an amazing opportunity for someone who has
is like bridging the traditional and web three world and all that
stuff is fantastic. Let's just pretend it's not
Nina. It's just like an artist or
whatever. Whatever they're doing, it's
it's sort of like you have to think about it from you lad's
perspective as well, where it's like they acquired the punk IP
for having, you know, an undisclosed amount which is
probably 10s of millions of dollars.
I think it's in the hundreds, by the way.
I think it's like maybe it's a. Punk.
Yeah, probably in the maybe, possibly in the hundreds.
And maybe they have people saying, like, OK, you guys
bought this, like what the fuck are you guys going to do with
it? Well, like how do we make a
return on this? And then they're like, oh shit,
we need to actually do something with this IP and sell stuff.
And this is a good application of that.
Because I think generally speaking anyone who knows
anything about ARP will appreciate this.
But there is a risk that they do other kind of jobs which feels
like, you know, not as as organic and kind of show their
hand a little bit as to like what they're trying to do.
And you know, like I do think the best thing about punks is
that they are just artifacts. They're just there to be
appreciated without their anything to to you know without
needing anything more. And you know, I thought like the
that the physical drop with like avant art was like amazing
because that's just like, hey, we haven't really done anything
crazy. But here's just like some
physical thing that you can have in your home.
If you like punk, that was like brilliant.
But there's a risk now if you just keep doing like loads of
art drops, like based on punks, like it's official because it's
Yuga Labs doing it. But, you know, you know, you see
comments about like, oh, it's just a so Yuga Labs punk
derivative and all that kind of stuff.
And I think you know, true hardcore punks and those kind of
guys, I can understand how they might feel a bit like well this
thing that was like nice and pure is now a little bit impure
because Yoga Labs is using the IP to you know try and monetize
it. And that's, that's the risk.
I think that's the risk. I I I I think I.
Want to go to the Fido Dido team because I I do have to bring
them up, but go on. I just want to say quickly, I
don't disagree with everything you're saying.
I think that there's definitely two sides to this.
I would say that like while I see them as artifacts, to me
artifacts are are priceless. So therefore to me adding to
its, its history and story and richness is going to be
important. So like, I I understand that,
you know, I would say, like, I just my thought process is
there's so much drama in this community and sometimes we just
need to be like like just no drama, like take it down guys.
Like just relax. Like, you know, like bottle
sells. And it's like, Oh my God, I
can't blame bottle sells from Fort ETH and like, aren't they?
Grow up, put your pants on and make.
People go shut the phantom scribb bro.
Like random scribbles like Madam.
Scribbler. If he thought if he if he felt
that he wanted to buy it and he feels the history of it, then
it's. This money, it's this fucking
for the ether spending, not yours.
I love, I love the idea of buy shaming like they're still.
Having for like. Buy shaming like.
Why did? You're not allowed.
To buy that. No, you can't buy that.
My art was worth more money. Like, look, I get it.
It's like, frustrating because you're working and someone's
buying something. But look, everybody, art is
about your perspective, right? And I just think I'm just, to
me, I think a little less drama in this space would be a little
bit better. And sometimes we'd just be like,
OK, let's try that. You know, we're allowed to make
mistakes here. This is not a place that
everything has to be perfect. Sometimes you do something
doesn't work out. You gotta break.
Shit, we gotta break shit to build shit.
So anyways, viral thoughts love to hear that.
I know a bunch of us have punks have participated in the punk
ecosystem a lot before or the art eco, so I just think it's
cool. Like it's just cuz we're all
talking about logs obey myself and all that stuff like
yesterday night. But I think like you know we're
not saying like the institution of punk's like we want to
preserve he's right like we should be preserving that But in
my opinion the institution institution is who is the
holder. It's not yoga right.
Yoga just bought the IP they do own 419 Punk's for.
It's worth. They can't even fuck this up
because they have so many punks that it has.
Obviously 418 now. Yeah, for an 18.
Now. Exactly.
Just gave her one. But I, I I welcome it.
I'm happy to see punks at LACMA. I love seeing punks at Pompy do
Sean George Pompy do at the at the I see in Miami.
I love my Avant art frame, which locks.
You can buy it for $100,000 if you want.
I know you want one 2000 by the way.
If anyone wants to flip their avant art crypto punks, Lox
wants to buy one for $2000. So it's a 4X already 5X if
you're selling five. It was 300 bucks, 500 bucks and
I forgot. So $2000 bid.
Lox wants to buy one if I'm saying.
Cos Cos gave punks in that Lakma thing.
I didn't know that. That's amazing.
Cos gives. His own punk.
The the the zombie. Wow.
He's at LACMA, right? So.
You know, so we everywhere at SCA.
Medicis, right? I mean they I love it.
The Medicis are everywhere, man. They since since minus House and
in in Milano so they've been around.
But anyways, that was a good conversation.
I'm really happy we had it. Hopefully it it opens the eyes
of people on the punks and what's going on there and I
think it's really cool and I'm personally very, very proud to
be punk. So anyways, for the boys on here
who have some work to do, you're welcome, we'll go.
And for those of you who wants to hear the legend herself, my
good friend Joanna Ferroni. Najib, Ginger Potter, Hold on.
You guys pulled up with a damn. The final title squad rolled in
deep on us. Y'all pulled up on rock Radio
One time. Hold on.
Oh shit. It's like us five at the top and
the right that we. I don't think we've had that
many people on folk. Actually, we have never had
people on film an hour before, which is wild.
So Joe, first, how do you do? I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm
going to bounce to just be a listener.
Bye, Ryan. Love you guys and let's go.
Hearing you guys nice conversation.
Really interesting. Thank you very much.
I'm sorry. I know I meant to go to you guys
15 minutes ago, but this squad? Here, entertained very much by
those guys. And you always, as always,
Farooq, who's I want to put in a bottle.
But that would be completely counterintuitive because it
would stay in a bottle. You're amazing.
Thank you so much.
I mean look that in right back at you.
I mean you know we have we have the whole team here.
I'm assuming the Oasis and Ferro Dido team, right.
I know Najib of course you were on with us last time with Allan.
Yes Sir. Injured Potter.
How y'all doing? Hi, guys.
Good. All good.
Hi, Farooq. Nice to meet you.
Thank you for having us actually.
We're so hyped. We're so hyped.
Anytime. I'm I'm so happy.
Like honestly you guys are such a fun partner to have on film R
and rug radio in general. I know we've already hosted once
when we were together for your mint and then you know Joe came
on and said hi at the house chat to Golden who posted this photo
of Joe and I he just posted it as AGM.
I'm. Getting jealous.
Actually, I'm getting really jealous now.
Right now. Where, where?
Where was this? Where was this guys?
That was in Miami at the our house.
So you're hanging out together now?
We were in December. We were hanging out in December,
right, Joe? We had fun.
You're a lucky guy. Yeah.
Nice. We had a lot.
Of fun Is your real name Ginger Potter?
Like can I this this? One.
No. So, so basically my buddies used
to call me that. That's cool because I had
ginger, ginger hair and like, crown glasses.
And then I took it and made it my own.
And yeah, basically everyone called me.
Ginger Potter. So, so yeah.
Oh my God, I love that. This is so funny.
Listen, there's a lot of people, I don't know what you guys are
doing over there on final Dido. Well, obviously, I know, but
what I don't There is so much, so much excitement every time
you guys come on this show. Like before you even came, there
was like 250 people setting reminders, a bunch of retweets.
That's before even we set the whole like you.
Obviously we're giving money away to someone on the show
today, but you guys just always managed to have so much, you
know, you know, excitement, right.
So what's the latest? Y'all?
What's the latest? Obviously open-ended question,
perhaps the Joe first or Najib if you want to take on the Oasis
side. But like, what's the latest when
it comes to Fido, Dido and Web 3?
Because it was really exciting combo we had last time.
OK, I I want to defer to Ellen because he is the genius behind
this whole thing. There's a lot of geniuses behind
this whole thing. It certainly would not be
happening without you guys and Ralph in particular is just such
an incredibly talented artist who is bringing Fido back to
life. All of these guys are the best
and Ellen is is the the premier spokesperson for the whole
project and kind of the godfather I would say.
Oh, wow. That's wow.
Wow. Basically, that's a huge.
Responsibility. And up to that, actually a
couple of weeks ago she told me, you know, take Fido as your
little brother and and take care of him.
So. So yeah, Fido is kind of my
little brother. Quick intro, my name is Alan or
Alan like Fido or Fido. Born and raised in Belgium from
Lebanese parents. So I work between between Paris
and Brussels. I own AFMB company that manage
big music and sporting events. So like to Moreland festival or
the Formula One Grand Prix. We we manage and supply the FMB
around those kind of events. So whenever you want to come.
Here in Belgium to hang out with us on those festivals, you're
more than welcome. But since my college years, I
was so a true believer of blockchain and IT and I I
started to to study it. I started to invest in it and
and in 2020 big crisis, big economic crisis started in my
hometown Lebanon. And I saw the potential and the
and the and the craziness of of of the blockchain and NFT and
how it bring alternative and create a new economy to people
like Ginger Potter or Najib or myself to gather around to to
create a new economy, a new business awareness to artists.
And I started to be around some NFT collection until I met the
ghosts, Joe who who told me, who told me about about Fido.
And the first time we met, it just clicked.
You know Farooq as you as you have met her.
She's this wonderful woman. She's.
So crazy. And she she boosts my day, she
boosts everyone around her. She's she's a pure joy.
Joy to be around. And when she introduced me to
Fido, it a lock, a lock, a core memory, you know, like I'm this
90s guy. As you can hear I I English.
It's not my first language. So I learned English in front of
the TV, in front of Cartoon and Cartoon Network and and Fido was
everywhere at this time. Fido was on Billboard, Fido was
on bottles. Where he was the 7UP spokesman,
he was 7UP spokesman, he was, he was on school supplies.
So it was crazy and when she showed that to me and said, OK,
listen, we need, we want to do something with that and I want
to to put it into this digital age, I say I have the perfect
fit and let's do it and let's recreate it and let's pick it on
Web 3. So how it That's how it started.
Wow. I love that.
I love, love, love that. And I love the background too.
I mean, I'm French, Persian, you know, Belgium.
Lebanese is not not so far apart.
It's almost like we're cousins, bro.
Yeah, we're Cousin Man you. Know.
I speak French, I speak French, Yallah habibi and Arabic and
whatever you want. And Arabi Mahabhakifak Habibi.
Let's go. That's all I know.
Let's bring him any food. And and they're very, very bad
words. So we're not going to go there
this morning. No, not.
At. All rated stuff like that.
So it's really cool. I mean, Joe, I'm going to go
back to you how's, how's the, how's the trip in Web Three
been? I mean, obviously you talked to
us about last time about, you know, the history of Fido, Dido,
the Big 7UP collaborations, the first character on there and
everything, which is insane. I mean, people should really
look into the history of Fido. That's really how has your foray
into Web Three been so far? It's been a few months now.
Well it it's been incredible, but it's because of these guys.
It's because of people like you for and the whole community is
so open and inviting and interesting.
It's a completely new language for me.
I would be lost without all of the help that I'm getting from
this incredible team. It it's really exciting.
It's the coolest thing. I mean I I know I could not have
predicted it. You know you guys were you were
talking before about about art and and whether it, you know
expires or whatever. And I was thinking about this
line from Rilca that says time is a runner who can never stop.
And I feel like Art is a runner who can never stop.
I feel like Fido is a runner who can never stop.
I just didn't know where to take him next.
It's gonna go on way beyond me is my feeling and and you know I
feel like it was sort of a divine intervention just to find
guys. It was nothing that I could have
planned or done anything about. It just happened and organic you
know meetings of people and of like minds are are what have
always I think driven the most interesting projects in in the
world. It's just you don't plan it.
You don't plot it, you just it happens.
It's like a gift. Yeah, this is true.
I mean, I'll speak for myself, but I think everybody on our
side, like, we kind of just fell into Web 3.
It's not like you chose like, hey, there's this thing let me
go and find. It's like, oh, whoa, like I'm
here. Like this is, I'm just going to
stay, right. Yeah.
When you start building your home.
I just have a quick question, Joe, do you actually like, do
you actually like 7UP? Beverage.
Or like do you like drinking 7UP?
Or like do you prefer 7? And I have it this I have a
better question. Do you think 7UP or Sprite?
Definitely 7UP, babe. Even if I didn't have to say
that, I like 7UP a lot better. But my I I would say my my soft
drink of choice is Pepsi, which is also politically correct
answer. But even when I was a little
kid, everybody wanted Coke. I always wanted Pepsi.
It tastes. It tastes better.
You OK? I like my Diet Cokes with a
little bit of lemon in there or lime.
But look, I I just love this whole collab.
It really takes me back to my childhood, honestly.
And it's so funny. I just love to see it like that.
And it's such an iconic character that pretty sure
everybody kind of you know is familiar with if you've ever
drank 7UP. And when was this?
It was like early 2 salad. It was before that, right?
And pain was in like 1980. 888 Fuck yeah, I wasn't born, but
you know, I saw it once I was born, that's for sure.
Loxy, did you Did you drink the Phyto Dido 7UP growing up?
Yeah, I am. I am that old look at that.
We'll, I'll show you a little bit of the, I'll show you a
little bit of the Gray and we'll move on.
So funny. I love that.
Listen, you guys obviously been doing some cool stuff.
You had your mint. You made a big comeback in web 3
Joe like you were just talking about like for your character to
exist forever and beyond yourself, which is something
that I find really beautiful. And obviously you have a great
team supporting you and very caring team, mind you behind the
scenes which is something that I think really cool.
So what are the future plans for for Fido Dido Again open-ended
question of course to to to the bottom row of the, of the, of
the, of the, of the podcast here.
But what? What are?
What are the future plans here for for Fido?
Yeah, let's, let's dig deep into that actually with a jaw.
First of all, we reconnect all the plugs, all the previous
contact, all the network, all the all the resource she had.
We bring back that, we brought back that with the licenses and
and from that we created hype. And after this hype we say, OK,
now we need to put it into the in the digital age, into web
three. We need to build this new
company. Actually we're opening while we
are speaking with Joe, we're opening an entity in Delaware
where the IP will be on it, Joe's IP and Joe license will be
on it. It's going to call Fido Lab and
from that IP with this licenses actual license and future
license we're going to link it to to the Web 3 ecosystems.
So basically with in parallel we're minting on Monday don't
forget that and take note put a reminder when we're minting on
Monday and and we're we're rebranding fiber.
We're bringing this legacy of Joe and recreating the work
she's she did and actually she did all the work a book deal she
already did the 7UP deal. He made it a gaming license also
and then we recreate that and bringing that to the web 3.
So. So actually we're not building
an web three IP. We're we're bringing this multi
$1,000,000 in in past revenue IP this this web two IP into web
three and offering for the community and for the holders to
to hold this pop culture icon. And of course with royalty
program and for sure the past holders, the Genesis holders and
the past collection will be the main key the real stakeholders.
But of course we're integrating some yearly dividend and yearly
royalties to the next PFP holders into all the future
project that we're bringing on and we're going to speak about
those projects. OK.
One thing I noticed which I I love when you do that, Joe,
besides me, you have the like these little things, right?
Like you have our logo right there.
Like it's just little things like that that I find so fun.
If you see that, looks like I just find it so cool.
Like the rugged little right there.
You did this. Pardon.
Ralph on that he's he's ingenious.
This is like also like this is so fire.
Yeah, Ralph, you should talk about.
Dude Ralph, Like this is so cool.
Let's give. Ginger his flowers here.
Can we, can we, can we just say, can we just say that Ralph
Ginger Potter is Fido in the flesh?
He is Fido in the flesh talk. To me, more about that like this
is sick. Broke, I think.
Before he does, I think we need to.
I think we need some like forecaster frames in the Fido
tablet for sure, right? That's my God.
Like, wait, let's go, Forecaster.
I didn't even have time to talk all this today because they're
all Fido. Data would be talking like 2:00
PM if I go on about about Forecaster, right?
I'll be. I've been busting over these
fucking chops about it for, like, all morning long.
Elan Locksley quit. I'm.
I'm out here fucking on three different phones talking about
Forecaster. But this is a great frame, by
the way. So Ralph, Ginger Potter, Mr.
Flowers, Let's give him to you. Like, talk to me more about this
spirit of collaboration that you guys have within Fido, Dido.
All these logos on there. Of course I see toads, apes,
black nouns, I think, or something like this.
Anyways, see a bunch of cool logos.
Talk to me more about this. Yeah, first of all, hello
everyone. I'm a big fan of all of you here
on the stage. My name is Ginger Potter.
I've. I'm an artist.
I've been a professional artist for like the past five years.
I created my Instagram. I started on 600 followers.
Now I'm at 221 K and like basically, yeah.
What's the Instagram? Ginger Potter, 21 damn genius.
Five years of work, basically. So, so yeah, I've been like
growing my account through my own art, basically.
All of that from. Lebanon.
Is that good? Is that good?
Damn, this is sick. Everybody should just go on
Instagram while you're on X with us.
Just ginger powder 21, I guess. Fire.
Thanks so much for the plug. So yeah, basically I've been
like doing my art for the past five years and growing my
Instagram and all of that. And just like you mentioned
though, I fell into Web three. Eventually, around two or three
years ago, I became a one of one artist in the space, sold out
multiple collections on most platforms, on Foundation, on
Super Rare and everything, and been featured on Times Square in
NFTNYC. And yeah, basically it's been an
amazing ride and the community that's been around me has
embraced me so well. And part of those communities
that I've met through the space is the Fido Dido community and
Joe and Allan. And as soon as, like they
approached me to create, to be the artist of this project, I
just jumped at the chance to get on it.
Because it is such a nostalgic project for me.
Like I was saying, I'm also Lebanese and born and raised in
Lebanon and I've been surrounded in the 90s by Faido Daido
wherever I go. Not just like the the 7UP cans
and all of that, but also the T-shirts, all of the games, all
the toys, everything around you. You would see Faido, Daido,
Faido, Daido. So for me it's what it's like a
mascot for my childhood and being able to be part of this
legacy is just amazing for me, a 40 year old legacy that that the
aim for it is to live on far beyond me and and whoever comes
after me. So for me like really I just
enjoy every aspect of of this project.
It's so fun, it's so cheeky creating all of these fun
different cartoons and if you check the Twitter, we started
with the art with a certain idea and a certain aesthetic and it's
evolved throughout the the process because it became more
fun. We started out very like basic
style and eventually there there were more shades and eventually
it became animations. It's animated.
So like most everything that I do is basically hand drawn on
paper. So like it's it's like the
primitive type of way of doing animations.
So they're they're drawn, they're hand drawn frame by
frame and then scanned and created into the animations that
you see in front of you. So I really enjoy the process
and especially in working on this project has been an amazing
ride and everything that's planned in the future, like
we're planning on bringing back Fido on like 7UP bottles as well
as working on on on ATV series and on a movie.
And I'm so excited for all of that.
I started like writing out a story for all of these, a whole
storyboard for the movie and everything.
And it revolves around nostalgia and basically the struggle
between us millennials on, between growing up and trying to
still cling on, to cling on to the childhood that that was ours
once before. So like, there's so much fun in
this. There's so much 90s nostalgia,
which I love. And yeah, I just enjoy every
aspect of it. And and I just can't wait for
you guys to see everything that we have going on and we're
preparing. So yeah.
This is exciting. I I I'm a I'm a fan.
I mean, Benny, did you see the the IG?
In the meantime, did you see the art?
Are you meeting at it? No, I was just looking at it.
It's really great stuff. Like first of all, I noticed
that you did a the Sam Spratt Son of Lucy thing which looks
amazing, not? Yes, Sir.
Yeah, big fan of human AS. Well, no stuff looks your IG
looks. I love this one.
Where you're. Did I get it?
Yeah, my brain floating. Also, I feel like I have to
support you because anybody who's red haired, I understand
the trauma and the and the pain that you have suffered in your
life. I'm telling everybody it's
everywhere. Red beards.
It's going to be like the Web 3 Ginger, so it's JGING 3R like
Ginger and it's going to be just a web and like we can maybe put
court group for all you guys. Not that many of us left.
We're slowly dwindling down, so we.
Need to protect you all cost because yeah, right.
Ginger Potter's allowed in my tunnel, by the way.
I'm just saying. Oh, OK, yeah.
So Betty's building a tunnel. So you know, Benny's building a
tunnel inspired by what happened at 770 in Brooklyn most
recently. So he's going to be building a
tunnel between Brooklyn and Paris.
Paris, in case. Y'all but yeah, dangers of web
three could be a cool idea. I mean, there's a lot of y'all
and the winds protect you and all the dangers I know are all
chads, so you love to see that. Anyways, so the I'm gonna get,
I'm so like there's gonna be a tweet right now saying sure.
Anyways, anyways, anyways, sorry I get too excited.
So here I am on the website, on the mirror article I see these
awesome pieces of art. I see first thing I see is
there's a mint and I see a price point that's fucking sick.
I see .003. So I see this automatically like
this. Fire, Fire IP, fire people, fire
artist Joe and and Ginger Potter, great team at Oasis,
Alan and and Najib. You guys are really on top of
things. Clearly you've done the
marketing of this product and the project very well thus far.
The arts is original and the mint cost is very low, which is
super cool. So does one of you want to talk,
you know, lastly like to leave the people on this?
How do they participate? What do they need to do and when
do they need to participate? Oh yes, I will.
I will explain that and I will let Najeeb finish with the tech
details. Basically what's to be clear,
the .03 is for the the fiddle list, what you call that.
It's the white it's closed but but to jump on and don't sleep
on the public mint it will be just after that it .04 it and
that's the price of the of of the this epic PFP we're offering
and and created by Ralph let me talk to you as I'm as I'm
telling you the work we're doing in parallel of that as I said
we're not building an web three IT and web three IP and
launching it and creating project in parallel we're doing
project and bringing the license and the contact of Joe like
we're contact and we're going to post content of the prototype
we're doing with 7UP and Pepsi International.
We're going to, we're going to show the the Fido Bible we are
doing. It's like the requirement to
offer for big mainstream network and I want to make a statement
here. Our goal is be the first Web 3
project to have his TV series in a mainstream network on Cartoon
Network or Nickelodeon also. So thanks to Joe.
Thanks to this IP. Thanks to 30 years of track
record. 30. Years, man, 30 years of of of of
revenue and and licenses and and advertisement.
We are bringing that for you, for the holder.
We're building this company with the holders and the community
and from that point we're we're going to spread the spread the
philosophy and the vision and the work and it's going to be a
product oriented project that's for sure.
And so, so that's it. The details are on as you can
see the Genesis holder hold of course a right to vote on the
next project behind the scene content and and some some
dividend and we're going to call it a royalty program for now
based on each project, the PFP holder we're going to hold a
yield, A yearly dividend and and and some cool other stuff and of
course and the most importantly it's the the right to license
and throughout this royalty program you're going to be able
to license this legendary IP that we're bringing on Web 3.
So that's that's what we are doing right now.
That's the goal of the Mint. That thanks all of that thanks
also to this amazing team. Thanks to Raz the artist.
Thanks to Najib and the Oasis X Web three operator.
They are so amazing. We have this strong team and
beautiful team and and without Joe, we have, without her soul,
her vibe, her positive vibe, we would be nothing.
So it clicked. We're super cool.
We're super cool guys, thanks to this amazing lady here.
And yeah, the sky is the limit. Let's don't sleep on us,
actually. No, no, I think this is awesome
even. But this see like I I I
appreciate like we've seen so many mints like over the last
three years something in a space and obviously we've wholesaled a
lot. We've also partnered with a lot
of people like yourselves and and and help them on that front
and stuff. And when I see like a mint
price, I'm like OK, cool. Like all your royalty stuff IP
things you're building is cool. But like, I'm cool just paying
that to have the art part from Joe.
Like, you know, I mean, like, it's like, I don't want to
downplay what you're doing for sake, but it's just like, OK,
cool, like one of four. Cool.
Like they can go and build whatever they want to build,
like, but I just want art and I think it's cool.
So damn, Joe, I'm your work. Let's go.
And she told me how amazing you were with her in Art Basel.
It's for for for a couple of calls and couple of meetings.
She she just spoke about Art Basel and and how how how fun it
was and how new IT was for her and to be to be surrounded by
those people people and you were special to her and thank you for
that before before thank. You, Joe.
Thank you, Joe. I mean, Joe, I'm going to go to
you for some last words here. Thoughts, excitement on what?
Talk to me, Joe. I I want to hear Najib's voice.
That's what I want to hear. But I want to ask you real
quickly, babe, who's the guy who was giving out the free
bracelets of the free Necklaces at at your event?
Michael Ray, the G These ones. Yeah, I have not taken it off
since I got it from. He is gonna.
Love this. He's probably in here.
So Michael Ray who is the crypto jeweler.
I think he's been listening to me personally since like
clubhouse days like three years ago plus and two years ago at
Art Basel comes to me he's like hey I'd like to give you gift
you this GM necklace and I he I go do you wanna put it on me.
And he was like freaking out. I'm like yeah dude and I still
haven't taken it off. I.
Haven't haven't taken mine off. That's so cute.
Same for my mom and my little brother.
And Loxy was kind enough to give his away to somebody else.
So we're going to get him, get him more.
But. That's so.
Cute of you to say that because yesterday the timing's so funny.
Yesterday Michael literally made a post about this.
I'll send you guys in the chat here.
If you want to. I can connect you off to give
maybe do something with Fido, Dido holders or whatever.
But it's he wrote a whole piece thanking us for like being part
of Miami. And there's a photo of me with
the the GM thing. So crypto jeweler, quick little
shout out, you know to A to a good friend and the hard
working, you know, yeah, a hard working person in the space.
Najeeb, we want to hear your voice now.
I guess you. Have been passed on.
To close us out. Nice.
And I shall just a couple of points here.
You were mentioning like you would collect this just for the
art value of it. I 100% agree with you.
Like all hand drawn, I remember Ginger when we did the Genesis
collection, 777 pieces. He drew every and each one of
these and on our daily calls he would tell me like I'm seeing
the world in black and white, like this is how much he was
immersed in this And so the art value is there.
And then second of all, like, really, we feel very blessed to
have come across this project. The the, the IP value is insane
here. And what's 1.
One thing we noticed in 2023 leading up to this year is that
it's the projects that had proper IP value that survived
and that will be thriving for the coming years.
And these are the new web three IP projects.
So imagine bringing something that's existing for 30 years and
just extending that IP onto this new Renman new ecosystem.
So there's no doubt that Fido would be a huge success here.
And yeah, we, we just can't wait for next week and the phase
that's coming after that because it's going to be crazy for
everyone that's participating in this.
Look, best of luck with that. If Mando was here, I know what
he would be telling you. He would be telling you the same
thing he told me when we minted for day one is the mint Day is
always the worst day. So when you go on your midday, I
know it's funny advice to say, but it's expect everything to
break. Expect it all to go South, to go
bad. Just wake up and tell yourself
it's all going to go wrong because then it's going to only
go up. And from there on for people
like us. And then you guys are the same.
Like the building part is the easy part, right?
Because you've been doing it for 30 years now, Joe, right?
You said 1985 fighter title, so it's like, you know you've been
there, you've done that. So it's and that's the easy part
and it's it's something that y'all are good at.
So anyways, excited to follow this mint.
Excited to. I'm just excited.
I'm going to like wait for y'all to go through the mint and all
that good stuff and then I'm going to go have fun and like
look on secondary for my forever final because I need something
that reflects my punk or or myself and stuff.
So excited to look into Great Joe Najib, Allah Potter.
Thank you so much for coming on the show today for partnering
with us. And I'm excited to do more with
you guys. I wanna let's find a way to work
together, you know, a little. Bit let's connect in NFT Paris
because I live between the Brussels and Paris.
Well, you just heard yourself your invite to our VIP event.
Let's go, man. Let's go, man.
We're doing our house, Paris. Thank you.
Yeah. So thank you guys.
And I will bring some Lebanese food for the VIP room.
Yo, it will be on me. It will be on me.
Don't think. It will be the the Fido
Lebanese. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Like after. Like, I'm Persian, so Persian
food's my favorite, but Lebanese cuisine is my like up #2 or #1.
Even with the Persian people like keep it, keep benaye.
Everything you guys do is perfect.
So thank you so much. I'm excited.
We supply you the best in Paris. Deep in the culture.
We bring some Lebanese restaurants.
We we know all of them in Paris. We will bring all the food in
the OH. No.
Are you hearing this? Is Evan, the audience?
EV is the one on our side taking care of the event.
EV, are you hearing this? We got we got some Lebanese food
squared away for for this, but it's just for me, Just for me in
the back and for locks again, just for me, all of it.
Oh my God, I love Lebanese food. And yeah, deep in Lebanese
culture. My, my first job growing up when
I was 15, was working for three Lebanese brothers.
And they taught me everything I knew about sales then.
So I I just loved the culture. May or may not have dated a
crazy Lebanese woman once in my life, too.
So, you know, I've been. Yeah, it happens to the best of
us. But, you know, but I was the
crazy one. I don't know, for it's worth,
you know, I don't want to put the blame on anyone.
It was a little bit of both. Here's your part of Joe Najib.
Thank you. Thank you.
Bye.
Bye, bye. Bye.