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Yo-yo yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning MG Wednesday, 

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Wednesday, February 7th, 2024. 
Look at that. 

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Another beautiful day to have a 
beautiful day. 

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I got my coats and my friends in
the house. 

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Oh, Seth, Red Beard, Loxley 
Mando. 

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How y'all doing today? 
Good. 

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Wow. 
Not everybody at the same time. 

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Amazing. 
I I don't know if you noticed, 

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but. 
Are you? 

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I've been building this tunnel. 
Well, we're almost there. 

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We're almost there. 
So we're building this tunnel 

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straight to Paris for NFT Paris 
this year. 

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Wow. 
So are you building a tunnel 

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from from from from Brooklyn all
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Had to bypass Brooklyn, 
obviously due to the 

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unfortunate, you know, situation
there and they caught on to us. 

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So we went through Manhattan 
this time and we made a a right 

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a quick right through the 
Atlantic Ocean. 

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We're good though. 
Wow. 

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OK. 
Interesting. 

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I mean, look, they built it 
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France, you know the tunnel, 
soula monch. 

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So the the tunnel over there, 
you know if you've taken the 

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train between the two, between 
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know what I'm talking about kind
of freaky we, I took it with LOX

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actually last time so so it's so
we did that but you know from 

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from Brooklyn all the way to to 
France that's that's that's an 

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interesting one. 
I mean that's. 

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I mean, but you can see how 
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You know, this is we spent a lot
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I mean, it's been years that 
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He was ahead of the curve. 
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thing. 
They caught the guys in 

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Brooklyn, but they didn't find 
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Yeah, it was like we were just 
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get those guys. 
You know why? 

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We could just keep doing our 
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mean this is, this is great. 
I can't wait to see how your 

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tunnel is going to work out. 
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fine. 
I mean it looks like you've got 

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a lot of help going on on that 
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have tried to successfully build
1 tunnel already out in Brooklyn

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where Williamsburg that is and 
that worked out pretty well 

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until it didn't. 
So hopefully this one works out 

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well for you. 
Benny, what do you have on your 

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hands right now? 
Are you? 

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Is that an instrument? 
So I'm learning. 

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I'm learning the Lyra, so when I
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play a song. 
OK, I'm getting closer. 

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I I I'm finding out what each 
string represents here. 

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OK. 
So like for instance, like here 

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I could do this rec guy is a 
juice. 

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It's not a alcoholic drink it 
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We think it may be water or some
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wrecked there. 
You go wow. 

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OK, this is what I woke up early
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Fully worth it in my opinion. 
This is definitely quite a start

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to FOMO hour this morning, 
Episode 55 here. 

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You absolutely love to see it 
with everybody in the house. 

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We got a lot of fun stuff to 
talk about today. 

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We want to talk what we want to 
talk about today, Sims. 

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We want to talk art. 
We want to talk ordinals, we 

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want to talk NFTS. 
We're going to talk very little 

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market. 
This is just because personally 

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speaking, you know, kind of we 
talk so much market. 

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I mean it's doing, it's doing. 
We're gonna toss it to OV. 

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He can give us a TLDR of course,
as usual. 

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But there's a lot of cooking on 
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Loxy is our resident RSIC 
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So I was talking to Loxy all 
over this thing. 

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So I kind of want to understand 
more of what's going on the RSIC

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world. 
Penny is like both the puppets 

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king and ordinals expert and the
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And we got not the one and only 
legend. 

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Ryan AK Thank you. 
X in the house here to talk 

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about to us about the 
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happening on the art side of 
NFTS and a crypto space in 

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general because it feels like 
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this a little bit where all the 
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And last but not least towards 
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AM Eastern Standard Time. 
I already see Joanna in the 

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studio in the in the in the in 
the in the on the space. 

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Let's see Fido Dido. 
We're going to be talking more 

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Fido Dido with all y'all. 
I know that's what a lot of 

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people are hyped about, man. 
This Fido Dido M efforts. 

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They get a lot of reminders, a 
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This is something always known 
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But anyways anyways anyways Ovi 
once you give us a quick. 

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Report brought to you by Rug 
Radio. 

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What's the word? 
Stocks are good. 

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Higher. 
Rates are good. 

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Lower. 
Crypto unchanged. 

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Juice higher. 
There you go. 

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There you go. 
There you go. 

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That's a great market report. 
Thank you. 

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Thank you very much. 
You. 

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Did do it quickly. 
I didn't think OSF. 

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OSF didn't have his rec juice 
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That's the problem. 
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He hasn't had his rec juice yet.
I heard when you will have the 

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rec drink. 
I heard when you have a rec 

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drink immediately like you, you 
you you become better at in 

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tortoise paces. 
I'll have it with me next week 

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maybe. 
I love that. 

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I love you. 
Actually, they're like we've 

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manufactured them now they're 
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They're, they're still that 
distribution center. 

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Yeah, so I love that. 
We're gonna go check them out 

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next week. 
This is so fun. 

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This is so fun. 
This is awesome. 

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A look. 
Honestly, we you're right. 

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Like, we don't even have to go 
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Like, Bitcoin's 43 KE is 2369. 
It was pumping yesterday, which 

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means that everything's about to
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And finally, the Jupiter pump or
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be going off today quickly. 
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What does it mean for Jupiter? 
I saw Jupiter jump 10% on the 

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back of that. 
But what does that mean? 

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Yeah, it just means you know 
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providing dynamic liquidity for 
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So you know as the price got 
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market cap, their team would 
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as it went lower, they would 
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So it kind of had like pump 
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also the plunge protection 
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well because they're also 
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And that dynamic liquidity 
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So you know there's an argument 
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because there's now no cap on it
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people have had seven days to 
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would have thought most people 
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So it could be, it could be 
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I think I I kind of do expect it
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Yeah, yeah, definitely we'll see
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Listen, I am definitely needing 
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you that. 
So hopefully you know we're 

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we're over with that. 
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I I think, I think I think I'll 
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we'll see what happens over 
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But anyways anyways let's pass 
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definitely not here to talk 
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What should we start with? 
Honestly, I think we should 

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start with ordinals and what's 
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And actually it works out pretty
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obviously, Ryan, you had to drop
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that sold out instantly. 
Locksley, you're all over the 

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RSIC and Redbeard. 
You've been, you know, screaming

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about ordinals since early on. 
I know you have a lot of early 

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inscriptions. 
It was last February, You were 

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all over it. 
But also you are Lydia, master 

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puppeteer yourself. 
Some seem to sink, just myself. 

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I'm just extrapolating here that
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you're a part time when you're 
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I I wish I I have a lot of 
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I think with the his Twitter is 
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my opinion is one of the best 
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But I do love puppets. 
I love puppets on ordinals and I

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also just happen to love 
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I think puppets are great. 
I play with puppets all the time

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with my kids you know so like to
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Now, these puppets, if I made 
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probably couldn't use them with 
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That would probably be a bad 
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know, mature puppets, I would 
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But I could see this be like a 
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Like, what's that Muppet show 
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Avenue? 
Q Think. 

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Right, Ryan. 
Right. 

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So they could have, like, a 
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I think it would be phenomenal 
just throwing that out there. 

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Yeah. 
OK, well, I love that. 

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I love what's happened on that 
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Look, there seems to be a lot 
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the Bitcoin ecosystem and what's
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So I'll, I'll, I'll just, I'll 
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Ryan, good morning. 
How you doing today? 

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GM I'm doing great. 
You know, I I haven't had my 

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morning coffee because who needs
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you got Benny with his little 
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instruments, you know? 
He he left the tunnels it seems 

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like he's back now at school and
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on the feed. 
I I need to be posting the I'll 

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I'll post the stream right now 
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Sims Sims stream please so we 
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timeline but Ryan I mean you 
recently had a drop on on 

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Bitcoin with the ordinals the 
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that's doing pretty well. 
I was looking into it yesterday 

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with locks, which is pretty 
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I mean what would you say, what 
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say your experience has been so 
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and and and obviously like how 
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know what and the activity at 
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Yeah, I mean, First off it was 
like an amazing experience 

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because it sold out fast and 
just the response to the artwork

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was really cool. 
Obviously there's a lot to fix 

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there. 
A long term, like, it's a very 

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clunky, slow process. 
But I actually think that's 

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that's good for right now 
because it the people who are 

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going over there, it seems like 
they're betting on themselves in

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a big way. 
So it's kind of like, you know, 

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harder to do, like a quick pump 
kind of thing without actually 

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putting money into it, I guess. 
So, you know, you kind of have 

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to believe in yourself. 
But the experience I had with 

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like the people there is just, 
it's been great, actually. 

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Benny introduced me to some cool
people. 

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And then, yeah, I like 
everyone's like, you know, open 

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arms. 
They want art there. 

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They want to help. 
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felt with NFTS in 2020. 
You just ask questions and 

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people someone will answer them.
So like yeah, that that for me 

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was like the biggest thing, just
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I was super confused about it. 
Still a little bit confused like

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I don't fully, I'm diving more 
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right now what I did is I 
launched it direct through Magic

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Eden. 
It was a very straightforward 

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process, but now for the next 
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the tech in a way that could 
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Yeah, I I think, you know, shout
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rip cash a first, because I feel
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artists. 
Billy Resta also was very early 

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on. 
And I checked in with both those

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guys. 
Those guys helped me. 

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I like go find people. 
If you're lucky, if you're an 

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artist, like DM, other artists 
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like, you know, maybe you've 
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them in the ecosystem because 
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help. 
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a lot and actually ex ULO as 
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Yeah, ex ULO. 
Like, I feel like, you know, you

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know those artists, you know, 
especially like you know, Billy 

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and RIP, they were so early in 
not just inscribing on to 

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Bitcoin. 
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were also very early on 
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you X, about before he did the 
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understanding the culture that's
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I keep advising artists and 
people who are building there. 

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Like if you want to do this, 
yeah, I have no problem. 

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It's like, like building on any 
chain to me is important. 

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But I would say you have to do 
your research. 

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You know you're going to come in
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And what especially about that 
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going to come in there and be 
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sell out, I will say about the 
Bitcoin Ordinal crowd, is that 

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there, there, there. 
It's not 2020, There's a little 

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bit of an edge, a little bit 
more of information that they 

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have. 
So they're, you know, they're 

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gonna smell things out that they
feel are more of just money 

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grabs. 
I don't think that they care 

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that people make money. 
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essentially is that if you wanna
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respect for what we're building 
here so you you understand that 

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process of it. 
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look you wanna go do it, do it, 
but don't do it the wrong way. 

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You know like on chain monkey 
they've done it the right way. 

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They've done their research 
they're putting it, really 

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bringing people over. 
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multi chain is very important in
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with it. 
But do your research. 

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I think it's the same thing with
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Like they have their own, you 
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know, Goku for being so early on
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But they had like a whole 
community of people who were end

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up putting stuff on there. 
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throw something out there, it's 
it's not going to always do 

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well. 
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community. 
They're looking sometimes for 

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different things. 
So I advise everybody to do that

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research. 
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is I think also it's important 
not to just go and only try to 

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like get something from the 
Bitcoin community, try to bring 

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something into the community. 
So, like, if you're an artist 

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and you've been doing well on 
Solana or Bitcoin, try to 

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educate your current collectors 
or audience on how to make that 

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transition with you. 
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One, it's great for the whole 
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over there, too. 
It gives you a little bit more 

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of like a safety net of like, 
OK, well, these people are 

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supporting me. 
They're going to come with me on

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this journey. 
I'm not alone. 

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We had like 50 people sign up 
for X Versus wallets in my 

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collector's Discord, which is 
huge. 

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Like to to experiment on a new 
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before, like 50 people. 
That was crazy to me. 

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So like, yeah, I'm bullish on 
that, but I think you really do 

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need to help bring your audience
a little bit at least or educate

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them. 
Yeah, I have a song coming up. 

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Do your research. 
Do your research for sure. 

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There's a lot of stuff happening
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Speaking of, I love that. 
Speaking of ordinals, Bitcoin 

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and everything else happen at 
Ecosystem and Loxley. 

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You're all over this RSIC stuff 
and I was saying on the show 

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yesterday with OVI was like 
Loxley never apes anything. 

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Like you'll get stuff small like
you'll do like small like you'll

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nibble with us. 
But like when it comes to us 

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like I'll be the complete DJ and
behind the scenes at rug video 

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and you're more like, you know 
you're you're very smart 

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investor and stuff like that. 
But you never tend to go all 

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into something. 
Yeah, I'm a. 

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Dad, you're a dad of three and 
like, I've seen you go all in 

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and you're so deep. 
You're like reading the KC 

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Rotomor, like GitHub and 
everything. 

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So can you give us the TLDR? 
Because I haven't been able to 

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really have someone on the show 
come and talk about it yet, 

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because it's up only so. 
Far few few things first like 

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I'll hop into that in a in a 
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But I do want to say really 
funny story for for for Ryan is 

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Feroke and I were in Switzerland
at dinner with a group from 

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Binance and one of these guys 
from Barcelona that we had just 

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met said he's he's been 
collecting ordinals. 

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He goes, hey, have you guys ever
heard of thank you X And we and 

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we said, yeah, we've heard of 
him. 

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And he said, hey he's dropping 
this. 

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It was like the day before the 
the day before your trains drop.

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He said, hey, this is like one 
of like the first top fine 

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artist to come on to Bitcoin And
that's cool. 

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And I was like, yeah, he's like,
I'm, he's like, he's like I'm 

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minting it. 
It's like amazing. 

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So like that being said, 
Speaking of like going going 

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back to this whole thing, 
bringing, bringing something to 

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the chain, there's a lot of 
incredible things that are 

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happening on Bitcoin. 
But just like, you know, Benny 

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was saying to shout out, to rip 
cash, shout out to to to Ryan. 

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I think it takes a lot of nerve 
to to go from building an 

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audience both with your physical
IRL work, but then also a very 

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Ethereum native audience and 
bringing those users because 

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that's the other thing too, 
right? 

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Is it's like it's not like you 
just brought Bitcoin to your 

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users, you bought, you brought 
your, your collectors, your user

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base to Bitcoin, right? 
So super. 

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I thought that was super cool. 
But going back to the ARSIC 

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thing, yeah, you know froak's 
right. 

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Like I really, I really don't 
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I'll nibble in a lot of things 
for me. 

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I found myself historically very
early to a lot of things but not

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doing but not taking size 
chances. 

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I think on this on this whole 
deal it it it clicked like I'm 

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looking at I'm looking at the 
runes allocation. 

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I'm looking at you know my 
investment thesis. 

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Froak knows this like the reason
that I that I invest in things 

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both in my, you know, IRL 
portfolio as well as like my my 

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digital portfolio is less about 
speculation, more about the 

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potential for positive cash flow
and the potential for 

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sustainability. 
And not investment advice 

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obviously, but looking at 
looking at what the R6 are doing

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in this idea of mining runes, 
you know, a new asset class 

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native to Bitcoin that is 
opening up a lot of like smart 

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contract capability ish, we'll 
call it right. 

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Like for for the Etherium based 
crowd, the parody there really 

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is like smart contract like 
capabilities and true fungible 

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tokens. 
It felt to me like an 

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opportunity to get into 
something fresh that mirrored 

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success stories from other 
chains that we saw in the past. 

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And to really just take a bite 
into something that I didn't 

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think was high was high risk. 
I thought it felt pretty. 

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But there's other, there's other
ruins. 

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So just to be of course, Casey 
Ryder has been talking about 

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doing runes. 
This is not his runes, if that's

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a different Runes 1. 100% so 
there's multiple runes projects.

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And and Leonidas is doing a 
runes project, so this this is 

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from an unknown. 
There's R6 there's there's the 

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there's Runestone there's Runex 
you know and obviously like you 

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know Casey going in and and 
pioneering and writing these 

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white papers on this runes 
protocol is just you know this 

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is this is just another thing 
the the reality is I think they 

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dropped the AirDrop very well 
thought out very well 

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distributed. 
The amount of people who are 

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buying into the game theory see 
this is the other thing too is 

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it's one thing to have a static 
allocation in AirDrop, it's 

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another thing to engage the 
community and sometimes you know

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the implementation of game 
theory is mid curving and 

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overthinking it. 
In this case, I think it you 

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know we're looking at 70 days 
until the having until you know 

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Runes protocol becomes available
and I think this is something to

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keep the community engaged, keep
them interested and give them a,

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you know the opportunity to 
educate themselves while you 

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know we get to that point. 
If it says allocation, is that 

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is that what I'm getting? 
Or do I have to hold the actual 

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runes in order to get that 
allocation? 

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When I look it up, when I look 
up my is it? 

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Wait, is it your birthday? 
No, but this like new Apple Mac 

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OS update is so annoying. 
It's so annoying. 

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Happy birthday to. 
You. 

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It's not even this birthday, but
happy. 

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Birthday. 
Annoying the whole thing like. 

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It. 
Throws all these like things and

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it bugs up your computer all the
time like this. 

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It is horrible. 
You'll be in the middle of an 

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important meeting with a huge 
client and you'll be like this 

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and it'll send a bubble up and 
you look so stupid. 

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But anyways, what do you think 
here like this is? 

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I find this whole thing 
fascinating. 

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So it's like a new standard. 
So it's not a BRC, it's a rune. 

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And for what's worth, like runes
is something Casey's working on.

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There's going to be more runes. 
This seems to be like an 

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interesting use case. 
Like this is arguably the first 

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successful AirDrop on Bitcoin, 
right? 

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Anyone can correct me if I'm 
wrong it's. 

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No, I'm making the largest 
ordinals ordinals, and it's up 

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to .12, seven Bitcoin. 
So Ovi, now we're talking about 

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this yesterday or something. 
Like we don't remember last time

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an AirDrop was worth like 2 ETH.
Yeah. 

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If you look at, if you look at 
the market cap right, without 

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considering rarities and and 
variability on floor, just based

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off floor price, it's $100 
million AirDrop currently, 

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right? 
Yeah. 

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It makes it like the largest 
AirDrop I would. 

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Consider Bitcoin Cash. 
Probably an AirDrop way bigger 

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than this, just to be fair, to 
give them like just, I mean that

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was an AirDrop, essentially it 
was just free money of a coin, 

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whatever. 
But from an from really an 

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ordinal standpoint, I mean, 
yeah, this is, they crushed it, 

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you know, the way they got out 
of it, they they they sent them 

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out allocation to me. 
I thought it was just kind of 

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easy when I bought them, you 
know, there were some rumors 

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that they didn't like the person
who created it. 

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Anytime there's something that 
has negative press, I usually 

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buy it, 'cause I'm just like, 
OK, that means price went down. 

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They agree with locks. 
The whole idea of it kind of 

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looked interesting. 
But I I think the bottom line is

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it just comes down to is just 
like, look, don't just buy 

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anything that's going on 
ordinals, cause a lot of stuff 

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is being minted right now. 
You know, definitely take a look

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at the inscription numbers and 
whatnot. 

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But now we're seeing that 
projects are making a big 

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difference. 
So like, you know, quantum cats 

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dropped yesterday, man. 
And I mean it exploded so. 

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So what I'll say what I'll say 
back to the to this this arsic 

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thing though. 
Benny is you're right, there 

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will be Runes projects across 
the board, right? 

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There's and this is just one of 
them. 

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That being said, like I have 
like I intend to diversify and I

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will grab a bag of a new Runes 
project that I think is going to

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be successful because I'm 
excited about what this runes 

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protocol means. 
And really like I, I, I actually

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told this I tell this to Froak 
every single day. 

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I don't believe in reinventing 
things, right. 

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It's like we're talking about 
iterative improvements just 

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incremental improvement. 
And when you look at the ruins 

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protocol and the incremental 
improvement over BRC 20 over you

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know, and really just taking 
what we saw on other chains and 

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bringing that functionality to 
Bitcoin, for me, I I think we're

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opening up a door to a lot of 
interesting potential liquidity 

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speculation because you know, 
Casino, Pondanomics, whatever 

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you want to call it and I'm 
excited for it. 

449
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,160
OK, this is really cool. 
I'd love to see that. 

450
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaking of, you know, 
everything going on, ordinals 

451
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,840
and stuff. 
I'm assuming everybody saw the 

452
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,080
quantum cats and and what's 
happening with UDI here 

453
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,920
yesterday. 
Ovi, yours and I's prediction 

454
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,360
was a .2 BTC. 
Did you say .2 point? 

455
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,920
32 I think we said .25 or 
something like that. 

456
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,440
Yeah, it actually. 
Opened at point 2:00-ish and is 

457
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:08,560
now sitting at 0.32 Bitcoin 
floor cat. 

458
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,880
Which, by the way, by the way, 
I'm going to be switching mine, 

459
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840
so I don't want to hear it. 
When you see a cell broadcasted 

460
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,320
because it would be a buy 
broadcasted right after it, OK, 

461
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,960
'cause I see those and I'm like,
damn, I want this one with the 

462
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,960
fucking the wizard stars on it, 
or these ones I like when 

463
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760
they're like all shadowy and 
stuff. 

464
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,360
What do we, what do we, what do 
we think happens here with this 

465
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:30,800
quantum cast? 
They've opened with 265 Bitcoin 

466
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,520
volume already, 2700 owners, 
3300 total supply. 

467
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,520
It's really wild. 
Like, is this like really where 

468
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,480
like ordinals just take all the 
energy away on the NFT front 

469
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,440
from from Ethan Solana? 
Because at the moment, like, 

470
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,200
he's really taking off a lot of 
the attention. 

471
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,760
I don't know if it takes away 
all the energy from Ethan 

472
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,080
Solana. 
I think there's still a lot 

473
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280
going on there. 
Ordinals still feels like to me 

474
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,760
like more of like a niche group 
of people. 

475
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Anyway, this is a collection of 
3333 that was a 0.1 Bitcoin min.

476
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,960
So that's not going to like 
attract loads of new people. 

477
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,880
I think it's just people within 
the ecosystem still. 

478
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,160
But you know, that being said, I
think this collection will do 

479
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,680
really well. 
And if you have the more 

480
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,480
successful projects you have on 
ordinals, the more people start 

481
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,920
to enter that space and try and 
make some money. 

482
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,200
So yeah, I think I think this 
will continue to do pretty well.

483
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000
It's like like when I think 
ordinals for some reason, I just

484
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,480
think UDI and this is like the 
UDI project, you know what I 

485
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,160
mean? 
So it just it just it just feels

486
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,160
like it's going to be like the 
new like face of ordinals for a 

487
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,440
while and if it goes higher than
I think it will bring everything

488
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,520
along with it. 
I would. 

489
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,920
Say that this is one of the. 
This is like one of the 

490
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,960
collections that I saw, people 
that aren't normally in ordinals

491
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,520
even, but that are kind of like 
bigger names posting all over 

492
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,240
the timeline. 
So this was like, this took over

493
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,760
the timeline. 
Like normally like when I see an

494
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,360
ordinals drop, it's like a 
specific group, but this one 

495
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,400
kind of seemed to bleed out 
beyond that. 

496
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,400
Yeah, And I mean, the fact that 
the Mint didn't go well and it's

497
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,560
still doing well is testament to
Udi, his team, far and what 

498
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,920
they're building over there, but
also that people are taking this

499
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,280
seriously. 
Look, I I think that I keep 

500
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,640
saying this. 
I've been saying it since the 

501
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,760
first day I came on rug to talk 
to you guys about this. 

502
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,240
You know, ignoring something 
because you don't like it is 

503
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,640
always a big mistake, I think, 
in this space, especially when 

504
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,640
the bull market's around the 
corner, I mean. 

505
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,680
But I do agree with Seth, while 
this is fun and nice and 

506
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,080
everything, we're still waiting 
for that other shoe to drop, in 

507
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840
my opinion, right? 
So for to me, I think the other 

508
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,520
shoe is for this to work, I I 
mean is you need a very big 

509
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,920
account like Michael Saylor to 
be like, hey, I just bought a 

510
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,080
cat for 10 Bitcoin. 
People forget that like in in 

511
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,080
NFTS early on that's what 
happened, right? 

512
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,920
That somebody bought a punk for 
$2,000,000 or an 8 for 

513
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,280
$5,000,000 and that that like 
made a mad rush for everything 

514
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,520
else in the market. 
So like we're looking at these 

515
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Bitcoin prices and we're like, 
OK, it's .33 BTC, how many, how 

516
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,360
much is that in dollars of OSF? 
That's like what? 

517
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:16,560
I don't know offhand, 14,000, so
it's like 8 ether right around. 

518
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,560
So something like that. 
It's at 9 ether. 

519
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,120
Whatever it is, it's. 
Less than that. 

520
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240
Six and. 
Six like 6 and a bit, yeah. 

521
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,800
All right. 
So these are 6.5 S So just so 

522
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,080
just and again and this is like 
all speculation obviously, but 

523
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800
if we do believe Bull market's 
coming back and we do believe 

524
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,640
NFTS can come back, I, I, I 
remember we were trading apes, 

525
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,120
you know, way higher and the 
floor was insanely higher. 

526
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,520
So to me, again, I don't know if
this is for sure going to work 

527
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,440
out, but if it does, I see 
there's a lot of room to grow 

528
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280
here versus the fact that it's 
like, oh, we've already, you 

529
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080
know, this may be like, you 
know, that's expensive already, 

530
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,800
but that's that feeling you got 
when NFTS were a thing back in 

531
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,520
2019 and 20 when people like, oh
man, it's already A10 ether and 

532
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320
then all of a sudden it's like a
floor for 100 ether, right. 

533
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:14,240
So I I think people should 
should always collect NFTS very 

534
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,280
strategically and smartly, but 
to ignore it would be a gigantic

535
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,200
mistake in my opinion. 
Yeah, I mean it's going to be 

536
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,720
interesting to see how this 
evolves. 

537
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,000
When it comes to to the cats and
stuff, there's a lot of 

538
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,480
conversation around like if is 
this going to lead to tappet 

539
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,320
Wizards. 
Once the second collection one I

540
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,280
see someone in the chat talking 
about, you know, it's so weird 

541
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,640
when the secondary collection is
mentioned before the 1st. 

542
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,720
The thing is, we don't really 
know what or how. 

543
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,520
We just know that, you know Udi 
and his Udinals and the Udiats 

544
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,640
are building this and we like 
Udi. 

545
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,280
I'm calling Udiats because 
that's what this Bitcoin Max is 

546
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,640
called that don't like him by 
the way. 

547
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,520
It's not in no way, shape or 
form. 

548
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,560
What I feel and how I feel about
Udi and his team definitely love

549
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,120
them and here to support them. 
So I find this super cool, but 

550
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,120
this all leads me to another 
conversation that I really 

551
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,600
wanted to have here with you 
guys. 

552
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,360
I mean, state-of-the-art 
state-of-the-art in NFTS. 

553
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,920
Our boy OV at the end of this 
month hasn't meant let's fucking

554
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,120
go PD5I can't wait to see it. 
But you know Ryan, what is going

555
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,640
on in art these days? 
I know some people love to say, 

556
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,520
you know, the art is dead, blah 
blah blah blah blah blah. 

557
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,520
But there's a lot of stuff going
on regardless. 

558
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,720
Like what? 
Are there some things I've 

559
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240
caught your attention, your eye 
recently on the art side of 

560
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,880
crypto? 
I mean, yeah, I've been paying a

561
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,480
lot of attention to ordinals, to
be honest. 

562
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,120
And yeah, I don't know. 
That's been my main focus 

563
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,400
personally, like you're. 
Seeing kind of like follow suit.

564
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,280
There's some artists that are 
working on some things that it's

565
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,360
like it's it's a little loaded 
question because I think right 

566
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,160
now is a little bit from the 
artist release side. 

567
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000
It's it's a calm before the 
storm. 

568
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120
I think there's a lot of stuff 
being built right now and 

569
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,760
collections and things that are 
being built. 

570
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,600
I don't know, Benny, what? 
What do you think? 

571
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,360
I see Benny. 
Smile like he knows something. 

572
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,320
No, I'm laughing because I found
that there's a comment section 

573
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,360
and someone wrote his name is 
Mando's forehead. 

574
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,320
Anyone seen my Vaseline? 
I can't find it anywhere and I'm

575
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,520
just I I didn't know that Mando 
has forehead has its has its own

576
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,760
account which is. 
Is your your looks? 

577
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,680
Used to have an account, now 
it's his forehead. 

578
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,040
Well, I mean, his forehead is 
gigantic now that we're on the 

579
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,480
topic talking. 
I see. 

580
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,760
Why is Mando catching strays? 
He's not even on the show right 

581
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,080
now. 
I know, I see. 

582
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaking of the challenge, 
usually Mando's forehead. 

583
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,720
Dude, hold on, I got to take a 
screenshot. 

584
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,960
I. 
Leave that on screen for me. 

585
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,240
OK, got it. 
That's crazy, bro. 

586
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,760
The idea, Benny, is that like 
Mando and Ovi's foreheads, like 

587
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,800
average each other out. 
That's true, because like, Obi 

588
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,680
doesn't really have a forehead 
and Mando has a gigantic 

589
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560
forehead, so. 
If you Obi has like a three 

590
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,200
head, Mando has A5 head. 
You could fit You could fit like

591
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,240
like almost all of Ovi's face 
inside Mandos forehead. 

592
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,000
So it'd be kind of weird if we 
did that and like Ovie's face 

593
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,440
was here. 
What about Betty's? 

594
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Betty's goes beyond his head. 
Yeah, I don't really have. 

595
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,320
I have no forehead or head. 
It's just a mix. 

596
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,880
So Betty, what are you're like 
literally the champion of the 

597
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,080
art? 
You are literally like you're 

598
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,760
like a modern day you know 
Medici, literally patron of the 

599
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,400
arts. 
You help us a lot on the rug 

600
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,080
reader, the crypt side with art.
You are creating an insane line 

601
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,040
up of panels from France. 
You already created a great one 

602
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,640
for our house in Miami that we 
did. 

603
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,800
I know what you up to. 
I see you collecting. 

604
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640
I know you participated in the 
Sotheby's last grail sale. 

605
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920
I think you bought one of the 
the Cherniak piece like. 

606
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,920
So tell me like what's happened 
on the art side, you know 

607
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,400
because a lot of people love to,
you know consider it dead 

608
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,760
because all the other stuff is 
trading. 

609
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,200
But I'm pretty sure there's a 
lot happening. 

610
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,760
Yeah, I mean, I I I think that, 
you know, we use it. 

611
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,120
You know, we ask the question is
like art dead in this community.

612
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,560
And I find it funny because art 
never dies, right. 

613
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,400
So like the idea that it's dead 
maybe is that some people have 

614
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,120
stopped collecting. 
They think that it's interesting

615
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,200
we're going into a new phase. 
I think you have collectors 

616
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,400
who've had spent a lot of money 
in the past who are not spending

617
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,160
money right now who are looking 
for different venues of of 

618
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,480
helping artists in connecting to
institutions. 

619
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,320
I think you have newer 
collectors that are coming in 

620
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,440
interestingly enough that you 
know, probably sold off the last

621
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,800
bear cycle and are coming in 
with some money. 

622
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,680
And then I think you definitely 
have some funds quietly that 

623
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,880
have been raising a lot of money
that are starting to buy slowly.

624
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,520
You know, like me personally, I 
I'm, I'm very patient when it 

625
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,840
comes to the art market. 
I think that you know, you know,

626
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240
if you're going to buy 
something, to think, to flip it,

627
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320
in my opinion is that you 
shouldn't be buying it. 

628
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440
I think that if you're coming in
to collect, obviously you want 

629
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,680
to make money. 
Not everybody wants to be a 

630
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,240
patron, which is totally fine 
also. 

631
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:13,040
But overall, Paris is packed, 
People are doing projects and if

632
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,440
if if we already went through a 
bear again if I don't know if we

633
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,080
did or not depending on OS, FS 
mood during the. 

634
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,880
No, no he's not. 
He's back. 

635
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,840
It was a 24 hour. 
OK, fine. 

636
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,320
He's back. 
He's. 

637
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Back and also like he had a tiny
baby bear in him even after that

638
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800
for a little bit, but it seems 
like it's kind of like. 

639
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,880
I'm back. 
OSF is back. 

640
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400
He had his. 
Period. 

641
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,800
But it's over. 
And now he's collecting art and 

642
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,520
making art again. 
This is how you get the royalty 

643
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,880
free songs. 
There you. 

644
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Go I do want to point out like 
if. 

645
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,600
You. 
OK, so like, because I've been 

646
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,400
paying a lot of attention to 
ordinals like what Billy has 

647
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880
done with bit blocks has been 
incredible. 

648
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,640
What Hardo has done with the 
Golden Ratio, those to me like 

649
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280
are some of the best collections
that I've seen. 

650
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Like golden Ratio was something 
that I was like, oh, OK like, I 

651
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,400
understand, like people are 
going to understand this. 

652
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,320
I'm like a big way and what he's
doing and it he has something 

653
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,880
free coming out that he's doing.
And this is actually really 

654
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,800
important because he partnered 
with the Belvedere Museum to 

655
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:31,120
release a free mint on ordinals 
and it's called floor forms. 

656
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,040
And I don't know, I think it's 
dropping soon, but it's like, I 

657
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,960
know they're like, you know, 
setting up a lot of list and 

658
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,000
stuff like that right now. 
But it's basically like art 

659
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,360
based off of like the museum's 
collection which and it's a free

660
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,280
mint. 
So like to me, you have 

661
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,920
institution paying attention to 
ordinals, you have a known 

662
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,360
artist there with a very 
successful cool collection doing

663
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,440
it and they're doing it for 
free. 

664
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,400
So it's A to me that's like a 
cool onboarding system, you 

665
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,680
know? 
And then. 

666
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Yeah, and. 
Then E33. 

667
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,440
I don't know if you guys know 
him. 

668
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:14,560
I think E33 is going to be the 
breakout like generative kind of

669
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,480
AI star. 
I think like this year maybe or 

670
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,120
one of them, I've just been and 
I've basically they caught my 

671
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,199
eye on their timeline and I was 
like, holy shit, I just found 

672
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,000
your work, whatever. 
Like it's amazing. 

673
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,679
And then he replied, he's like, 
oh, I'm actually part of a Dow 

674
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,080
that acquired your Solana piece,
you know, whatever. 

675
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,800
So like, he's been doing like 
both sides for a while. 

676
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,480
And I don't know, to me that's 
very interesting. 

677
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,400
I think if you go look at Echo, 
it's Echo. 33 Work on one find 

678
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,320
that if they're curious. 
Yeah, it's. 

679
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,239
It's on Twitter. 
You could just look up E33. 

680
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,400
But the spelling. 
Is. 

681
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,520
EEKO 33. 
I just and I just want to add to

682
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,120
this like the the art market is 
is not dead. 

683
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,720
You know, I, I, I, I think 
people need to realize that 

684
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,880
there are some really amazing 
artists that are are working 

685
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,800
behind the scenes that have some
tremendous art coming out this 

686
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,880
year. 
I think that, you know I think 

687
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:18,680
that we have to like stop as a 
community in my opinion to be so

688
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,640
into these ideas of like what's 
next, right. 

689
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Like you know, we have like, 
yeah, we have like what the meta

690
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,640
how. 
Good is this art, though. 

691
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,720
How good is this art? 
It's he's great. 

692
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,280
They were great. 
I should say. 

693
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,120
I don't know if it's a hitters. 
That's cool. 

694
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,800
But I think that we have to get 
out of this meta of like what's 

695
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,080
next? 
Where am I going to get next. 

696
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,720
Can I get the white list, allow 
you know allow list excuse me. 

697
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,440
And I think that we have to 
focus on the the fact that 

698
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040
there's some really great 
artists who are doing some stuff

699
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,080
like look Avant I think is is 
pounding out some amazing work 

700
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,200
shout out to Abigail and that 
team. 

701
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,120
The map piece that they just put
out was amazing. 

702
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,440
The, the map, the map and piece 
was great and I think that let's

703
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,800
we'll also talk about how the 
next 2-3 months, excuse they're 

704
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,880
gonna be the last two bright 
moments events. 

705
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,200
You know what Seth and his 
brother have done has been so 

706
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,760
tremendous for the digital art 
space and they've done these 12 

707
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,760
shows and they're up to their 
last two. 

708
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,080
It's historical for our team. 
You know we can't we keep 

709
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,680
sitting in this moment in time 
and not realizing that there's 

710
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,160
this larger sort of broader 
picture to all of this, right. 

711
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,360
So instead of us focusing on the
fact that Seth is and Bright 

712
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,800
Moments is having their last two
shows, while that feels like a 

713
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,080
really cool moment right now, I 
can promise you if Digital Art 

714
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040
Renaissance is real 1020 years 
from now, they're going to go 

715
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,600
back and talk about those 12 
shows. 

716
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,960
They're going to talk about 
every artist that participated 

717
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
in that. 
So I think if you're collecting,

718
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,840
you have to realize that the 
longevity of this is not a 

719
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000
moment in time, but everything 
that's happening. 

720
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,360
Look, Nate, Alex is coming out 
with a new project. 

721
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,200
Yes, Sir. 
I told him to come on the show. 

722
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,920
He got it, he. 
Also, I think Benny, though 

723
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,840
don't you think it could be both
a moment in time? 

724
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Oh for. 
Sure. 

725
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,120
I'm saying enjoy. 
Yes, enjoy it now. 

726
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,600
But, like, give yourself a 
little foresight that you're 

727
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,800
gonna talk about this and 
someone's gonna be one day like 

728
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,360
I, you know, Oh, those bright 
moment shows I heard were 

729
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,640
amazing. 
And you're like, well, I got to 

730
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,160
go to three of them, right? 
I have art that I own from some 

731
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,320
of them. 
I think that that's the moment 

732
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000
we're we're focused in on now 
for art, in my opinion in the 

733
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,120
community rather than being in a
sense of like speculation when 

734
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,920
it comes to what you know what's
next and and and and not because

735
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,800
he's here. 
I'm going to be very honest. 

736
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,360
But shout out to OSFOV who who's
proved that with red light 

737
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,760
district right, who has shown 
that given given the piece of 

738
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,080
art that if you believe in him, 
he will continuously keep 

739
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,680
building his career, possibly by
giving back to you and and what 

740
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
he does. 
But those people feel a sense of

741
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,280
connection to that and I think 
that that's what you need to do 

742
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,480
more and more, otherwise it 
becomes speculation. 

743
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,880
And it to me that that's that 
takes away from the art itself. 

744
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Yeah, I'm. 
Going to interrupt you real 

745
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,080
quick. 
Yeah, I I think, you know, I get

746
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,160
AI get a chance to talk to a lot
of the red light District 

747
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,720
holders and there's something 
really special. 

748
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:20,000
I think that's happened with red
light District, where I don't, I

749
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,720
don't think the majority of them
are thinking about speculation 

750
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,080
and price, nor are they thinking
about the art of the red light 

751
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,400
district. 
They're thinking about the 

752
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,680
artist behind it, right. 
And that's that's an important 

753
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,200
connection. 
Yeah, I think so. 

754
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,000
I think that, yeah, listen, you 
know. 

755
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,760
I like the. 
I like the idea of just like 

756
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,640
being random on Twitter and 
coming across this space for the

757
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,200
first time. 
And then you just cut in during 

758
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,520
that part and they're like, they
got speculation on the red light

759
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960
district and they're like. 
What the heck? 

760
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,440
What is this red light district 
you guys are talking? 

761
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,520
About how do you speculate on 
that? 

762
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,280
And like even and there's so 
much going on. 

763
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,520
Like Pindar has a drop that's 
coming up with NFT Paris, which 

764
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,920
looks amazing. 
Actually. 

765
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,240
I'm I'm really excited about the
Pindar thing. 

766
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,720
I I was on the spaces with him 
yesterday hearing about it with 

767
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
NFT Paris. 
And I love his stuff, I mean. 

768
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
You know he's he's. 
A great artist. 

769
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,160
And yeah, he's giving away a lot
of stuff in person as well as in

770
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,960
Paris and. 
I was gonna, and that's what was

771
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,440
gonna end with the fact that 
we're all in NFT Paris. 

772
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:20,760
Artists creators. 
I mean it's I I to me it's it's 

773
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,560
it's it's it's like, hey, we're 
still alive. 

774
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,120
We're still here. 
You know it's like from that 

775
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,920
cartoon. 
What was that movie We are Here.

776
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,280
We are here from Horton Hears a 
Who and I feel like that's what 

777
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680
we're all doing and shouting 
until it gets out to the 

778
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,560
ecosystem of the world. 
But we just got to keep doing 

779
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,720
that and to me, I think we're 
getting closer and closer to 

780
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:41,400
that that that really. 
Speaking of NFT Paris, I do want

781
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,320
to just shout I am doing like a 
display at NFT Paris with my 

782
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,000
art. 
So I. 

783
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,280
Yes. 
Oh, nice. 

784
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,920
So, Ryan, how did you? 
Do How did you do that I. 

785
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,200
Was like, can't wait to go to 
your dinner at NFT Paris. 

786
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,400
And I was like, where's my 
invite? 

787
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,160
And then Ryan, I had the nerve 
to say I was invited and he 

788
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,280
didn't. 
Did you ever check your chat? 

789
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,520
Maybe you never checked him. 
See. 

790
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,760
No, but I'm. 
I'm. 

791
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,200
I'm doing a little dinner, but 
it's. 

792
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,680
But yeah, it's with Maker's 
Place. 

793
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,360
And if you want to see my art at
NFC Paris, it's at the Maker's 

794
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Place booth. 
I have a big new piece to 

795
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,800
display. 
Yeah. 

796
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,400
OK, love that. 
Wait, how did you? 

797
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,480
How do you do this do? 
You Mac OS update like you have 

798
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,120
to update your computer. 
I don't. 

799
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,400
I don't update. 
I don't. 

800
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,600
Get it? 
I I don't. 

801
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,560
I don't understand. 
I don't update my wife. 

802
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,640
Yeah, we can. 
Tell my OS. 

803
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Yeah, yeah, we can tell you 
don't update your computer. 

804
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,720
Yeah, we we, yeah, we know. 
We know. 

805
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,880
I don't clean it. 
I don't clean my computer and 

806
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,560
well, this is what I'll do. 
If I need to update my computer 

807
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,800
or clean my computer, I'll just 
get a new computer. 

808
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,800
Smoking like a true crypto bro, 
You guys. 

809
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480
You guys crack me up. 
Look, I there's a obviously like

810
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,400
a bunch of stuff I, I, I I'd 
love to keep, you know, talking 

811
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,560
about when it comes to art and 
when a lot of cool stuff 

812
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,400
happened in the space. 
In my opinion, there's a lot of 

813
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
things going down right now we 
can we should definitely like 

814
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,320
run this group back like at 
least like once a week or every 

815
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,040
other week to talk more art 
stuff on the show. 

816
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,760
Because I know, obviously Rd., 
Roger Dickerman doing this 24 

817
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,080
hours in art every day, which is
really cool, helps you, you 

818
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,040
know, obviously everybody get up
to date with everything, but you

819
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,320
know it's good to have an update
every now and then on what is 

820
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,240
going in the art space. 
The other thing, and last thing 

821
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,160
I had here on the art side, and 
then I definitely want to get 

822
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,640
the Fido Dido team up on video 
with us, 'cause I know y'all 

823
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,000
came here to listen to them. 
And Joe Farroni, she's like, 

824
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,240
dude, I she's like like Super G,
like super OG, the coolest 

825
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,400
person I've ever met. 
She even came to the art house, 

826
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,000
she pulled up and like a scooter
on a Vespa and I'm like who The 

827
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,800
Who the fuck is this pulling up 
in our driveway in a Vespa? 

828
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,480
And it was Joanna Ferrone. 
So I'm telling you I cannot wait

829
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,440
to get in with it, into it with 
her quickly though, bottom right

830
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,360
purple box, hit that retreat 
button because we are giving 

831
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,320
another $1000 on the show today.
We have been giving $1000 every 

832
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960
single day on the show until we 
run out of the 15K. 

833
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,120
So I think we're like 11K deep 
and we're going to give it away 

834
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,040
to someone that's listening. 
So if you're not listening well,

835
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,800
you're not getting $1000. 
I'm. 

836
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,040
I'm listening. 
Does that count? 

837
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,600
Listening but you you have 
enough $1000 you're not getting 

838
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,200
it and so you have to retweet 
follow FOMO hour and follow roll

839
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,480
become. 
And just so you all know 

840
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,520
yesterday I understand that the 
the the loot boxes were 

841
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,720
underwhelming. 
It was my fault. 

842
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,240
I messed it up. 
We fixed it. 

843
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,480
So the two people that won the 
loot boxes yesterday you get to 

844
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,960
re roll on Friday. 
So hopefully you make a whole 

845
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,480
lot of money. 
The last thing that I thought 

846
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,000
was really cool on the art side.
I know, I know I don't. 

847
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,440
I don't This is like sensible 
sensitive topic of conversation 

848
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,960
for Crypto Punks was the Nina 
Chanel Abney collaboration with 

849
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,360
Punks that went down and that 
was enough yesterday. 

850
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,720
But we can probably have a whole
conversation about another time 

851
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,680
because I don't want to like go 
over it too much because I know 

852
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,960
it's going to cause a little 
debate. 

853
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,360
But Crypto Punks are an art 
disruption in the best way. 

854
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,760
As the inaugural artist for the 
Crypto Punks NFTS Punkin 

855
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,560
Residence program, I'm excited 
to be expanding my web three 

856
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,040
knowledge and be joining this 
iconic community as Punk 72. 

857
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,400
So it seems like you got like, 
you know part of the residency 

858
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,600
program gave Nina Chanel a punk 
which is Punk 72 which is Daft 

859
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,320
Punk which by the way like fire 
with the. 

860
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,800
I mean obviously that's not the 
actual background of it but I 

861
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,360
just realized that the blue and 
blue background slaps like that 

862
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,280
and looks like Nina Chanel will 
be making like her old 

863
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,280
collection like a derivative 
collection using the crypto punk

864
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,280
stuff. 
So obviously, like when it comes

865
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,000
to crypto punk, you know, I 
know, I know, some people don't 

866
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,440
like it when people touch Punk's
IP and everything. 

867
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,840
And the punk's chat Yesterday it
was rolling rolling in a debate 

868
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,640
and you'd love to see that. 
But what are the original 

869
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,360
thoughts here? 
What is this? 

870
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,720
What is this Stage's original 
thoughts on on this collection 

871
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,800
I. 
Think I'd love to speak. 

872
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,480
So I I've been a fan of Nina 
before Web three. 

873
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,040
I think she's fantastic. 
I think when I saw her paying 

874
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,280
attention to Web Three I I was 
very happy. 

875
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:17,560
I, you know, I own her go to 
NFTI am like optimistic about 

876
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,400
what this will be. 
I think it was, you know, I, it 

877
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,840
was an interesting choice to to 
go for the artist residency 

878
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,080
program to go like outside of 
the community, I think was an 

879
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:36,200
interesting choice but like I'm,
I'm not ready to like say it's a

880
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,080
bad choice because it could be 
this amazing thing. 

881
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:44,040
And I believe in Nina and I 
think that she's great and I, 

882
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,440
you know, yeah, it's it's 
interesting. 

883
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,200
And I think anytime the punks, 
whoever's running, the punks of 

884
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,560
the time does anything, they'll 
get a lot of love and they'll 

885
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,720
get a lot of hate. 
It happened when Matt and John 

886
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,000
were running it. 
They would do something. 

887
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,720
Everyone would hate them, Then 
other people would love them. 

888
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,920
I mean, they got kind of ousted 
though, you know, with a big 

889
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,600
ticket. 
I I agree. 

890
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
I'll see. 
I wanna. 

891
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
I wanna add this. 
This is really important. 

892
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,960
This is a woman. 
This is an African American 

893
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,640
woman. 
I think it's important. 

894
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,000
We do not talk. 
We do not give women or 

895
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,960
minorities a loud enough voice 
in this space and for them to 

896
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,800
pick her who is a supreme 
artist. 

897
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,920
She's not just a woman and an 
African American. 

898
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,520
She's also like talented artist,
right? 

899
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,120
Freaking artist. 
That top, top level. 

900
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,200
Tier. 
Top level and for for. 

901
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,120
Punks in my opinion, which is 
the top level collection in our 

902
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,560
space to do this and to I credit
Yuga for this to say like hey, 

903
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,000
we need to people for other 
people to take punk seriously 

904
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,760
the same way we do. 
I think this is the best bridge 

905
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,760
to do it right. 
You're giving them a voice, 

906
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,160
You're giving a importance to 
it. 

907
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,320
It's not like it's really 
hurting the IP as much as 

908
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,640
everybody's saying. 
I mean, look, I just think I. 

909
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,800
Don't think you can hurt the IP,
really. 

910
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Like, no, I just can't. 
I take the argument, you know, 

911
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,080
look, what do you think here you
want to jump in? 

912
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,160
No, no, I felt both. 
I felt both ways about this 

913
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,280
actually. 
I felt I felt up and down about 

914
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,880
this yesterday and let me 
explain really quickly. 

915
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,440
You need the down 1st and then 
the up. 

916
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,720
Like Peroke and like Ryan, I was
a fan of Nina Chanel for a long 

917
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:27,960
time. 
Like, who isn't right? 

918
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,240
The Downside and Froak, you 
know, convinced me that maybe I 

919
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,760
need to see the other side is. 
As a relatively young punk but a

920
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:42,040
fan of the punks, for a long 
time, I have seen them and hoped

921
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,160
that they would be given the 
room to breathe as artifacts. 

922
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,800
And that's what they are, right?
They're historical artifacts and

923
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,320
they're and they're perfectly 
beautiful as is. 

924
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:59,120
And my my original reticence was
around this idea that Yuga as an

925
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:06,080
entity who now owns that IP 
might impose on not the art, but

926
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,800
on the institution of punks some
mechanics that don't need to be 

927
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,440
there. 
And now I'm recognizing more you

928
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,080
know largely in in you know 
things to Faro Ryan also like 

929
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,640
you saying that this idea of 
artists in residence brings a 

930
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:31,240
lot of validity validation I 
would say right to the digital 

931
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:35,320
art space and that we're taking 
traditionally accepted fantastic

932
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,640
fine artists and showing that 
they are part of this 

933
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,040
institution. 
And I'm I'm, it's growing on me.

934
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,600
And and one thing too is that 
it's it's not just picking a 

935
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,680
random artist that has never 
paid attention. 

936
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,720
It's like she's been part of 
GOTA. 

937
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,400
She's I I know she owns like 
some doodles, you know from 

938
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440
early on, like when she when 
they were launching GOTA, she 

939
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,600
got on stage and I was like. 
I was. 

940
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,320
Oh, we host. 
Oh, OK. 

941
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
We we host. 
She's been to multiple IRL. 

942
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,600
I've I ran into Nina Chanel like
a 2-3 events easy over the last 

943
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,720
two years. 
Last year I. 

944
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,360
So when I was listening to that 
spaces, I was like, oh, like, 

945
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,080
OK, what's she doing? 
And then she starts talking 

946
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,360
about how she's like, you know, 
flipping doodles and like, she's

947
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
like, I'm like what she knows 
about Doodle. 

948
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,080
Like it was, I was like shocked,
you know, because I was like, at

949
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:26,120
that time, it wasn't a big thing
for, you know, top tier artists 

950
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,600
like that to come into Web 
Three. 

951
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,920
And I say top tier, like, you 
know, every museum wants her 

952
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,040
kind of thing, not like. 
Just she's cool. 

953
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,160
Or has a lot of followers like 
she's like very desired artist 

954
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,640
in the traditional world so and 
that to me is like a good thing 

955
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,160
that she she knows what she's 
doing. 

956
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880
She understands the space and 
she like she said in her post 

957
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,520
she wants to you know dive 
deeper into it and I like that 

958
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,640
she gave punks like you know the
credit of like this is the top 

959
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,320
tier collection da da da. 
So like to me I'm I'm bullish on

960
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,920
that and I I don't think that 
I've ever seen something where 

961
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,760
like I've been disappointed by 
something she's done. 

962
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,880
So I'm, I'm optimistic in that 
side. 

963
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,200
But yeah, I'm you know, only 
time will tell like let's see 

964
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,360
how it goes. 
But I I think why not cheer her 

965
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,440
on and support and because if if
everyone starts to like, it's 

966
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,600
like even within the community 
like why would she want to be 

967
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,360
part of the community if if 
everyone's like in the crypto 

968
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,840
punks, you know, like I'm a 
crypto punk holder. 

969
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,280
So like you know, you saw the 
chat yesterday that was like it 

970
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,360
was going for her, you know, 
whatever. 

971
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,560
But like if it's bad, then why 
would she even want to keep the 

972
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,960
punk? 
She would just sell it and then 

973
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,400
be like, you know, I don't even 
want to be part of that 

974
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,160
community after that. 
And so why not welcome her with 

975
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,560
open arms at this point? 
And like, let's just support and

976
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,680
hope for this. 
And like Benny said, like we 

977
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,480
don't have a lot of people like 
that in the space, so like, why 

978
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,680
don't we? 
Why don't we support You want to

979
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,800
hate the You want to hate the 
idea? 

980
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,640
That's fine. 
But hating on the artist? 

981
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,680
I never understand. 
No, of course, I think people 

982
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,440
know. 
I think the business I heard. 

983
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,400
Loxley, you got to stop hating. 
It's not cool. 

984
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,880
Yeah, locks. 
Come on. 

985
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Yeah, locks could not. 
Be that guy, these people. 

986
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,960
Are not hating on the artist. 
And art people are very just 

987
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,400
like punks in general, like 
loving. 

988
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,520
People like careful. 
I just want to worry about. 

989
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,320
Yuga because like a Yuga 
initiative. 

990
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,600
Like, Oh my God, you guys. 
Are gonna like I do. 

991
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Go ahead, let's go to you 'cause
you haven't. 

992
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,080
I've spoken yet and you have a 
fire, punk. 

993
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,320
So what are your? 
Thoughts I I see what locks is 

994
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,480
saying. 
I think there's I think there's 

995
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,840
two sides of the coin here and 
one side is like one side of it 

996
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,240
is this is an amazing 
opportunity for someone who has 

997
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,080
is like bridging the traditional
and web three world and all that

998
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,200
stuff is fantastic. 
Let's just pretend it's not 

999
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Nina. 
It's just like an artist or 

1000
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,360
whatever. 
Whatever they're doing, it's 

1001
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,040
it's sort of like you have to 
think about it from you lad's 

1002
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,160
perspective as well, where it's 
like they acquired the punk IP 

1003
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,320
for having, you know, an 
undisclosed amount which is 

1004
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,760
probably 10s of millions of 
dollars. 

1005
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,360
I think it's in the hundreds, by
the way. 

1006
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,520
I think it's like maybe it's a. 
Punk. 

1007
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,800
Yeah, probably in the maybe, 
possibly in the hundreds. 

1008
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,880
And maybe they have people 
saying, like, OK, you guys 

1009
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,560
bought this, like what the fuck 
are you guys going to do with 

1010
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,400
it? 
Well, like how do we make a 

1011
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,280
return on this? 
And then they're like, oh shit, 

1012
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,280
we need to actually do something
with this IP and sell stuff. 

1013
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,160
And this is a good application 
of that. 

1014
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,240
Because I think generally 
speaking anyone who knows 

1015
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,960
anything about ARP will 
appreciate this. 

1016
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,920
But there is a risk that they do
other kind of jobs which feels 

1017
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:22,160
like, you know, not as as 
organic and kind of show their 

1018
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,680
hand a little bit as to like 
what they're trying to do. 

1019
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,560
And you know, like I do think 
the best thing about punks is 

1020
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,320
that they are just artifacts. 
They're just there to be 

1021
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,920
appreciated without their 
anything to to you know without 

1022
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,120
needing anything more. 
And you know, I thought like the

1023
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,360
that the physical drop with like
avant art was like amazing 

1024
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,560
because that's just like, hey, 
we haven't really done anything 

1025
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,600
crazy. 
But here's just like some 

1026
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,040
physical thing that you can have
in your home. 

1027
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:49,000
If you like punk, that was like 
brilliant. 

1028
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:52,480
But there's a risk now if you 
just keep doing like loads of 

1029
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,600
art drops, like based on punks, 
like it's official because it's 

1030
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Yuga Labs doing it. 
But, you know, you know, you see

1031
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,640
comments about like, oh, it's 
just a so Yuga Labs punk 

1032
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,800
derivative and all that kind of 
stuff. 

1033
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,800
And I think you know, true 
hardcore punks and those kind of

1034
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,200
guys, I can understand how they 
might feel a bit like well this 

1035
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,240
thing that was like nice and 
pure is now a little bit impure 

1036
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:16,800
because Yoga Labs is using the 
IP to you know try and monetize 

1037
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,080
it. 
And that's, that's the risk. 

1038
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,000
I think that's the risk. 
I I I I think I. 

1039
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,880
Want to go to the Fido Dido team
because I I do have to bring 

1040
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,040
them up, but go on. 
I just want to say quickly, I 

1041
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,520
don't disagree with everything 
you're saying. 

1042
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640
I think that there's definitely 
two sides to this. 

1043
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,640
I would say that like while I 
see them as artifacts, to me 

1044
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:39,000
artifacts are are priceless. 
So therefore to me adding to 

1045
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
its, its history and story and 
richness is going to be 

1046
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,480
important. 
So like, I I understand that, 

1047
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,720
you know, I would say, like, I 
just my thought process is 

1048
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:52,320
there's so much drama in this 
community and sometimes we just 

1049
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,640
need to be like like just no 
drama, like take it down guys. 

1050
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,400
Like just relax. 
Like, you know, like bottle 

1051
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,560
sells. 
And it's like, Oh my God, I 

1052
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,080
can't blame bottle sells from 
Fort ETH and like, aren't they? 

1053
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,240
Grow up, put your pants on and 
make. 

1054
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,400
People go shut the phantom 
scribb bro. 

1055
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,880
Like random scribbles like 
Madam. 

1056
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Scribbler. 
If he thought if he if he felt 

1057
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,520
that he wanted to buy it and he 
feels the history of it, then 

1058
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,360
it's. 
This money, it's this fucking 

1059
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,000
for the ether spending, not 
yours. 

1060
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,960
I love, I love the idea of buy 
shaming like they're still. 

1061
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,440
Having for like. 
Buy shaming like. 

1062
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,600
Why did? 
You're not allowed. 

1063
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,920
To buy that. 
No, you can't buy that. 

1064
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,880
My art was worth more money. 
Like, look, I get it. 

1065
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
It's like, frustrating because 
you're working and someone's 

1066
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,040
buying something. 
But look, everybody, art is 

1067
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,760
about your perspective, right? 
And I just think I'm just, to 

1068
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,920
me, I think a little less drama 
in this space would be a little 

1069
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,720
bit better. 
And sometimes we'd just be like,

1070
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,320
OK, let's try that. 
You know, we're allowed to make 

1071
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,720
mistakes here. 
This is not a place that 

1072
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:54,120
everything has to be perfect. 
Sometimes you do something 

1073
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,640
doesn't work out. 
You gotta break. 

1074
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Shit, we gotta break shit to 
build shit. 

1075
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,800
So anyways, viral thoughts love 
to hear that. 

1076
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,240
I know a bunch of us have punks 
have participated in the punk 

1077
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,120
ecosystem a lot before or the 
art eco, so I just think it's 

1078
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,800
cool. 
Like it's just cuz we're all 

1079
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,400
talking about logs obey myself 
and all that stuff like 

1080
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,760
yesterday night. 
But I think like you know we're 

1081
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,520
not saying like the institution 
of punk's like we want to 

1082
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,520
preserve he's right like we 
should be preserving that But in

1083
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,920
my opinion the institution 
institution is who is the 

1084
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,080
holder. 
It's not yoga right. 

1085
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,360
Yoga just bought the IP they do 
own 419 Punk's for. 

1086
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,680
It's worth. 
They can't even fuck this up 

1087
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,880
because they have so many punks 
that it has. 

1088
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,840
Obviously 418 now. 
Yeah, for an 18. 

1089
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,320
Now. 
Exactly. 

1090
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,000
Just gave her one. 
But I, I I welcome it. 

1091
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,400
I'm happy to see punks at LACMA.
I love seeing punks at Pompy do 

1092
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,920
Sean George Pompy do at the at 
the I see in Miami. 

1093
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,680
I love my Avant art frame, which
locks. 

1094
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,600
You can buy it for $100,000 if 
you want. 

1095
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,520
I know you want one 2000 by the 
way. 

1096
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,360
If anyone wants to flip their 
avant art crypto punks, Lox 

1097
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,160
wants to buy one for $2000. 
So it's a 4X already 5X if 

1098
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,400
you're selling five. 
It was 300 bucks, 500 bucks and 

1099
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,040
I forgot. 
So $2000 bid. 

1100
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,240
Lox wants to buy one if I'm 
saying. 

1101
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,920
Cos Cos gave punks in that Lakma
thing. 

1102
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,080
I didn't know that. 
That's amazing. 

1103
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Cos gives. 
His own punk. 

1104
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,760
The the the zombie. 
Wow. 

1105
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,440
He's at LACMA, right? 
So. 

1106
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,400
You know, so we everywhere at 
SCA. 

1107
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,280
Medicis, right? 
I mean they I love it. 

1108
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,800
The Medicis are everywhere, man.
They since since minus House and

1109
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,480
in in Milano so they've been 
around. 

1110
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,840
But anyways, that was a good 
conversation. 

1111
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,400
I'm really happy we had it. 
Hopefully it it opens the eyes 

1112
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,080
of people on the punks and 
what's going on there and I 

1113
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,560
think it's really cool and I'm 
personally very, very proud to 

1114
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,640
be punk. 
So anyways, for the boys on here

1115
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,640
who have some work to do, you're
welcome, we'll go. 

1116
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,120
And for those of you who wants 
to hear the legend herself, my 

1117
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,880
good friend Joanna Ferroni. 
Najib, Ginger Potter, Hold on. 

1118
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,120
You guys pulled up with a damn. 
The final title squad rolled in 

1119
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,680
deep on us. 
Y'all pulled up on rock Radio 

1120
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,080
One time. 
Hold on. 

1121
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,400
Oh shit. 
It's like us five at the top and

1122
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,760
the right that we. 
I don't think we've had that 

1123
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,160
many people on folk. 
Actually, we have never had 

1124
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,760
people on film an hour before, 
which is wild. 

1125
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,920
So Joe, first, how do you do? 
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm 

1126
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,360
going to bounce to just be a 
listener. 

1127
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,240
Bye, Ryan. 
Love you guys and let's go. 

1128
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,480
Hearing you guys nice 
conversation. 

1129
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Really interesting. 
Thank you very much. 

1130
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,360
I'm sorry. 
I know I meant to go to you guys

1131
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,280
15 minutes ago, but this squad? 
Here, entertained very much by 

1132
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,960
those guys. 
And you always, as always, 

1133
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,440
Farooq, who's I want to put in a
bottle. 

1134
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,200
But that would be completely 
counterintuitive because it 

1135
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,280
would stay in a bottle. 
You're amazing. 

1136
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,440
You're amazing. 
Thank you so much. 

1137
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,240
I mean look that in right back 
at you. 

1138
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,160
I mean you know we have we have 
the whole team here. 

1139
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,360
I'm assuming the Oasis and Ferro
Dido team, right. 

1140
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,640
I know Najib of course you were 
on with us last time with Allan.

1141
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,960
Yes Sir. 
Injured Potter. 

1142
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,640
How y'all doing? 
Hi, guys. 

1143
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,360
Good. 
All good. 

1144
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Hi, Farooq. 
Nice to meet you. 

1145
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,160
Thank you for having us 
actually. 

1146
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,120
We're so hyped. 
We're so hyped. 

1147
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,000
Anytime. 
I'm I'm so happy. 

1148
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,360
Like honestly you guys are such 
a fun partner to have on film R 

1149
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,520
and rug radio in general. 
I know we've already hosted once

1150
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,440
when we were together for your 
mint and then you know Joe came 

1151
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,560
on and said hi at the house chat
to Golden who posted this photo 

1152
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,640
of Joe and I he just posted it 
as AGM. 

1153
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,360
I'm. 
Getting jealous. 

1154
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,320
Actually, I'm getting really 
jealous now. 

1155
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,680
Right now. 
Where, where? 

1156
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,840
Where was this? 
Where was this guys? 

1157
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,040
That was in Miami at the our 
house. 

1158
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,560
So you're hanging out together 
now? 

1159
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,080
We were in December. 
We were hanging out in December,

1160
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,160
right, Joe? 
We had fun. 

1161
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,240
You're a lucky guy. 
Yeah. 

1162
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,040
Nice. 
We had a lot. 

1163
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,360
Of fun Is your real name Ginger 
Potter? 

1164
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,920
Like can I this this? 
One. 

1165
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,080
No. 
So, so basically my buddies used

1166
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,280
to call me that. 
That's cool because I had 

1167
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,360
ginger, ginger hair and like, 
crown glasses. 

1168
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,080
And then I took it and made it 
my own. 

1169
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,520
And yeah, basically everyone 
called me. 

1170
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Ginger Potter. 
So, so yeah. 

1171
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,080
Oh my God, I love that. 
This is so funny. 

1172
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,000
Listen, there's a lot of people,
I don't know what you guys are 

1173
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,800
doing over there on final Dido. 
Well, obviously, I know, but 

1174
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,840
what I don't There is so much, 
so much excitement every time 

1175
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,840
you guys come on this show. 
Like before you even came, there

1176
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,480
was like 250 people setting 
reminders, a bunch of retweets. 

1177
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,400
That's before even we set the 
whole like you. 

1178
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,160
Obviously we're giving money 
away to someone on the show 

1179
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:32,160
today, but you guys just always 
managed to have so much, you 

1180
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,440
know, you know, excitement, 
right. 

1181
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,920
So what's the latest? 
Y'all? 

1182
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,480
What's the latest? 
Obviously open-ended question, 

1183
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,840
perhaps the Joe first or Najib 
if you want to take on the Oasis

1184
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,040
side. 
But like, what's the latest when

1185
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,920
it comes to Fido, Dido and Web 
3? 

1186
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,680
Because it was really exciting 
combo we had last time. 

1187
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:53,320
OK, I I want to defer to Ellen 
because he is the genius behind 

1188
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,480
this whole thing. 
There's a lot of geniuses behind

1189
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,760
this whole thing. 
It certainly would not be 

1190
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:04,080
happening without you guys and 
Ralph in particular is just such

1191
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,320
an incredibly talented artist 
who is bringing Fido back to 

1192
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,560
life. 
All of these guys are the best 

1193
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:17,680
and Ellen is is the the premier 
spokesperson for the whole 

1194
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,240
project and kind of the 
godfather I would say. 

1195
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,480
Oh, wow. 
That's wow. 

1196
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,600
Wow. 
Basically, that's a huge. 

1197
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Responsibility. 
And up to that, actually a 

1198
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,080
couple of weeks ago she told me,
you know, take Fido as your 

1199
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,000
little brother and and take care
of him. 

1200
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,440
So. 
So yeah, Fido is kind of my 

1201
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,560
little brother. 
Quick intro, my name is Alan or 

1202
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,600
Alan like Fido or Fido. 
Born and raised in Belgium from 

1203
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,640
Lebanese parents. 
So I work between between Paris 

1204
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,960
and Brussels. 
I own AFMB company that manage 

1205
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:05,240
big music and sporting events. 
So like to Moreland festival or 

1206
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,040
the Formula One Grand Prix. 
We we manage and supply the FMB 

1207
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,280
around those kind of events. 
So whenever you want to come. 

1208
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,200
Here in Belgium to hang out with
us on those festivals, you're 

1209
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,920
more than welcome. 
But since my college years, I 

1210
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,320
was so a true believer of 
blockchain and IT and I I 

1211
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,360
started to to study it. 
I started to invest in it and 

1212
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,400
and in 2020 big crisis, big 
economic crisis started in my 

1213
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,520
hometown Lebanon. 
And I saw the potential and the 

1214
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,360
and the and the craziness of of 
of the blockchain and NFT and 

1215
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,240
how it bring alternative and 
create a new economy to people 

1216
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:53,480
like Ginger Potter or Najib or 
myself to gather around to to 

1217
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,600
create a new economy, a new 
business awareness to artists. 

1218
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,680
And I started to be around some 
NFT collection until I met the 

1219
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:11,480
ghosts, Joe who who told me, who
told me about about Fido. 

1220
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,200
And the first time we met, it 
just clicked. 

1221
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,080
You know Farooq as you as you 
have met her. 

1222
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,920
She's this wonderful woman. 
She's. 

1223
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,360
So crazy. 
And she she boosts my day, she 

1224
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,560
boosts everyone around her. 
She's she's a pure joy. 

1225
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,840
Joy to be around. 
And when she introduced me to 

1226
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,360
Fido, it a lock, a lock, a core 
memory, you know, like I'm this 

1227
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,120
90s guy. 
As you can hear I I English. 

1228
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,680
It's not my first language. 
So I learned English in front of

1229
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:51,080
the TV, in front of Cartoon and 
Cartoon Network and and Fido was

1230
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,040
everywhere at this time. 
Fido was on Billboard, Fido was 

1231
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,000
on bottles. 
Where he was the 7UP spokesman, 

1232
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,040
he was 7UP spokesman, he was, he
was on school supplies. 

1233
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:07,000
So it was crazy and when she 
showed that to me and said, OK, 

1234
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,080
listen, we need, we want to do 
something with that and I want 

1235
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,360
to to put it into this digital 
age, I say I have the perfect 

1236
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,840
fit and let's do it and let's 
recreate it and let's pick it on

1237
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,920
Web 3. 
So how it That's how it started.

1238
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,640
Wow. 
I love that. 

1239
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,640
I love, love, love that. 
And I love the background too. 

1240
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,640
I mean, I'm French, Persian, you
know, Belgium. 

1241
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,360
Lebanese is not not so far 
apart. 

1242
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,560
It's almost like we're cousins, 
bro. 

1243
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,920
Yeah, we're Cousin Man you. 
Know. 

1244
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,480
I speak French, I speak French, 
Yallah habibi and Arabic and 

1245
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,960
whatever you want. 
And Arabi Mahabhakifak Habibi. 

1246
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,120
Let's go. 
That's all I know. 

1247
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,480
Let's bring him any food. 
And and they're very, very bad 

1248
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,480
words. 
So we're not going to go there 

1249
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,200
this morning. 
No, not. 

1250
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:50,800
At. 
All rated stuff like that. 

1251
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,080
So it's really cool. 
I mean, Joe, I'm going to go 

1252
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,560
back to you how's, how's the, 
how's the trip in Web Three 

1253
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,240
been? 
I mean, obviously you talked to 

1254
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,800
us about last time about, you 
know, the history of Fido, Dido,

1255
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,800
the Big 7UP collaborations, the 
first character on there and 

1256
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,200
everything, which is insane. 
I mean, people should really 

1257
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,880
look into the history of Fido. 
That's really how has your foray

1258
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,880
into Web Three been so far? 
It's been a few months now. 

1259
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,200
Well it it's been incredible, 
but it's because of these guys. 

1260
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,000
It's because of people like you 
for and the whole community is 

1261
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,640
so open and inviting and 
interesting. 

1262
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,360
It's a completely new language 
for me. 

1263
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,360
I would be lost without all of 
the help that I'm getting from 

1264
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,240
this incredible team. 
It it's really exciting. 

1265
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,120
It's the coolest thing. 
I mean I I know I could not have

1266
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,520
predicted it. 
You know you guys were you were 

1267
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:46,840
talking before about about art 
and and whether it, you know 

1268
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,680
expires or whatever. 
And I was thinking about this 

1269
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:55,520
line from Rilca that says time 
is a runner who can never stop. 

1270
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,560
And I feel like Art is a runner 
who can never stop. 

1271
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,600
I feel like Fido is a runner who
can never stop. 

1272
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,960
I just didn't know where to take
him next. 

1273
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:12,240
It's gonna go on way beyond me 
is my feeling and and you know I

1274
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,560
feel like it was sort of a 
divine intervention just to find

1275
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,160
guys. 
It was nothing that I could have

1276
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:25,280
planned or done anything about. 
It just happened and organic you

1277
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:31,680
know meetings of people and of 
like minds are are what have 

1278
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,880
always I think driven the most 
interesting projects in in the 

1279
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,640
world. 
It's just you don't plan it. 

1280
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,680
You don't plot it, you just it 
happens. 

1281
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,240
It's like a gift. 
Yeah, this is true. 

1282
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,360
I mean, I'll speak for myself, 
but I think everybody on our 

1283
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,400
side, like, we kind of just fell
into Web 3. 

1284
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,160
It's not like you chose like, 
hey, there's this thing let me 

1285
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,080
go and find. 
It's like, oh, whoa, like I'm 

1286
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,680
here. 
Like this is, I'm just going to 

1287
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,800
stay, right. 
Yeah. 

1288
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,920
When you start building your 
home. 

1289
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,000
I just have a quick question, 
Joe, do you actually like, do 

1290
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,080
you actually like 7UP? 
Beverage. 

1291
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,400
Or like do you like drinking 
7UP? 

1292
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,520
Or like do you prefer 7? 
And I have it this I have a 

1293
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,480
better question. 
Do you think 7UP or Sprite? 

1294
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,080
Definitely 7UP, babe. 
Even if I didn't have to say 

1295
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:29,720
that, I like 7UP a lot better. 
But my I I would say my my soft 

1296
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,920
drink of choice is Pepsi, which 
is also politically correct 

1297
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,760
answer. 
But even when I was a little 

1298
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,760
kid, everybody wanted Coke. 
I always wanted Pepsi. 

1299
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,120
It tastes. 
It tastes better. 

1300
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,560
You OK? 
I like my Diet Cokes with a 

1301
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,160
little bit of lemon in there or 
lime. 

1302
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,440
But look, I I just love this 
whole collab. 

1303
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,640
It really takes me back to my 
childhood, honestly. 

1304
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,160
And it's so funny. 
I just love to see it like that.

1305
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,560
And it's such an iconic 
character that pretty sure 

1306
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,280
everybody kind of you know is 
familiar with if you've ever 

1307
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,760
drank 7UP. 
And when was this? 

1308
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,280
It was like early 2 salad. 
It was before that, right? 

1309
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:11,920
And pain was in like 1980. 888 
Fuck yeah, I wasn't born, but 

1310
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,080
you know, I saw it once I was 
born, that's for sure. 

1311
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,080
Loxy, did you Did you drink the 
Phyto Dido 7UP growing up? 

1312
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,840
Yeah, I am. 
I am that old look at that. 

1313
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,680
We'll, I'll show you a little 
bit of the, I'll show you a 

1314
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,120
little bit of the Gray and we'll
move on. 

1315
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,880
So funny. 
I love that. 

1316
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,280
Listen, you guys obviously been 
doing some cool stuff. 

1317
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,960
You had your mint. 
You made a big comeback in web 3

1318
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,160
Joe like you were just talking 
about like for your character to

1319
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,680
exist forever and beyond 
yourself, which is something 

1320
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,920
that I find really beautiful. 
And obviously you have a great 

1321
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,920
team supporting you and very 
caring team, mind you behind the

1322
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,280
scenes which is something that I
think really cool. 

1323
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,720
So what are the future plans for
for Fido Dido Again open-ended 

1324
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,560
question of course to to to the 
bottom row of the, of the, of 

1325
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,480
the, of the, of the podcast 
here. 

1326
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,160
But what? 
What are? 

1327
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,040
What are the future plans here 
for for Fido? 

1328
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,800
Yeah, let's, let's dig deep into
that actually with a jaw. 

1329
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,600
First of all, we reconnect all 
the plugs, all the previous 

1330
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,040
contact, all the network, all 
the all the resource she had. 

1331
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,080
We bring back that, we brought 
back that with the licenses and 

1332
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,240
and from that we created hype. 
And after this hype we say, OK, 

1333
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,640
now we need to put it into the 
in the digital age, into web 

1334
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,320
three. 
We need to build this new 

1335
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,080
company. 
Actually we're opening while we 

1336
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,760
are speaking with Joe, we're 
opening an entity in Delaware 

1337
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:42,080
where the IP will be on it, 
Joe's IP and Joe license will be

1338
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,680
on it. 
It's going to call Fido Lab and 

1339
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:50,200
from that IP with this licenses 
actual license and future 

1340
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:55,120
license we're going to link it 
to to the Web 3 ecosystems. 

1341
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,240
So basically with in parallel 
we're minting on Monday don't 

1342
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,240
forget that and take note put a 
reminder when we're minting on 

1343
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:09,080
Monday and and we're we're 
rebranding fiber. 

1344
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,800
We're bringing this legacy of 
Joe and recreating the work 

1345
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,080
she's she did and actually she 
did all the work a book deal she

1346
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:22,479
already did the 7UP deal. 
He made it a gaming license also

1347
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,720
and then we recreate that and 
bringing that to the web 3. 

1348
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,960
So. 
So actually we're not building 

1349
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,279
an web three IP. 
We're we're bringing this multi 

1350
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:41,240
$1,000,000 in in past revenue IP
this this web two IP into web 

1351
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,880
three and offering for the 
community and for the holders to

1352
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,439
to hold this pop culture icon. 
And of course with royalty 

1353
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,040
program and for sure the past 
holders, the Genesis holders and

1354
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:00,040
the past collection will be the 
main key the real stakeholders. 

1355
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,640
But of course we're integrating 
some yearly dividend and yearly 

1356
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,760
royalties to the next PFP 
holders into all the future 

1357
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,680
project that we're bringing on 
and we're going to speak about 

1358
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,520
those projects. 
OK. 

1359
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,760
One thing I noticed which I I 
love when you do that, Joe, 

1360
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,279
besides me, you have the like 
these little things, right? 

1361
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:22,439
Like you have our logo right 
there. 

1362
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,680
Like it's just little things 
like that that I find so fun. 

1363
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,279
If you see that, looks like I 
just find it so cool. 

1364
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:28,680
Like the rugged little right 
there. 

1365
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,399
You did this. 
Pardon. 

1366
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,319
Ralph on that he's he's 
ingenious. 

1367
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,240
This is like also like this is 
so fire. 

1368
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,800
Yeah, Ralph, you should talk 
about. 

1369
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,479
Dude Ralph, Like this is so 
cool. 

1370
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,000
Let's give. 
Ginger his flowers here. 

1371
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:48,640
Can we, can we, can we just say,
can we just say that Ralph 

1372
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,840
Ginger Potter is Fido in the 
flesh? 

1373
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:55,760
He is Fido in the flesh talk. 
To me, more about that like this

1374
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,040
is sick. 
Broke, I think. 

1375
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,640
Before he does, I think we need 
to. 

1376
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,240
I think we need some like 
forecaster frames in the Fido 

1377
01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:05,680
tablet for sure, right? 
That's my God. 

1378
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,360
Like, wait, let's go, 
Forecaster. 

1379
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,320
I didn't even have time to talk 
all this today because they're 

1380
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,960
all Fido. 
Data would be talking like 2:00 

1381
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,760
PM if I go on about about 
Forecaster, right? 

1382
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,840
I'll be. 
I've been busting over these 

1383
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,360
fucking chops about it for, 
like, all morning long. 

1384
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,200
Elan Locksley quit. 
I'm. 

1385
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,680
I'm out here fucking on three 
different phones talking about 

1386
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,760
Forecaster. 
But this is a great frame, by 

1387
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,280
the way. 
So Ralph, Ginger Potter, Mr. 

1388
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,040
Flowers, Let's give him to you. 
Like, talk to me more about this

1389
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,520
spirit of collaboration that you
guys have within Fido, Dido. 

1390
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,400
All these logos on there. 
Of course I see toads, apes, 

1391
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,160
black nouns, I think, or 
something like this. 

1392
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,080
Anyways, see a bunch of cool 
logos. 

1393
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,920
Talk to me more about this. 
Yeah, first of all, hello 

1394
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,960
everyone. 
I'm a big fan of all of you here

1395
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,760
on the stage. 
My name is Ginger Potter. 

1396
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,080
I've. 
I'm an artist. 

1397
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,840
I've been a professional artist 
for like the past five years. 

1398
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,800
I created my Instagram. 
I started on 600 followers. 

1399
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,800
Now I'm at 221 K and like 
basically, yeah. 

1400
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:12,480
What's the Instagram? 
Ginger Potter, 21 damn genius. 

1401
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,560
Five years of work, basically. 
So, so yeah, I've been like 

1402
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,880
growing my account through my 
own art, basically. 

1403
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,840
All of that from. 
Lebanon. 

1404
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,800
Is that good? 
Is that good? 

1405
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,480
Damn, this is sick. 
Everybody should just go on 

1406
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:33,200
Instagram while you're on X with
us. 

1407
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,560
Just ginger powder 21, I guess. 
Fire. 

1408
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,560
Thanks so much for the plug. 
So yeah, basically I've been 

1409
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,960
like doing my art for the past 
five years and growing my 

1410
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,200
Instagram and all of that. 
And just like you mentioned 

1411
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,680
though, I fell into Web three. 
Eventually, around two or three 

1412
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,480
years ago, I became a one of one
artist in the space, sold out 

1413
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:56,440
multiple collections on most 
platforms, on Foundation, on 

1414
01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:02,480
Super Rare and everything, and 
been featured on Times Square in

1415
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:06,560
NFTNYC. 
And yeah, basically it's been an

1416
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,760
amazing ride and the community 
that's been around me has 

1417
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,240
embraced me so well. 
And part of those communities 

1418
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:17,000
that I've met through the space 
is the Fido Dido community and 

1419
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,240
Joe and Allan. 
And as soon as, like they 

1420
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,080
approached me to create, to be 
the artist of this project, I 

1421
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,160
just jumped at the chance to get
on it. 

1422
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,000
Because it is such a nostalgic 
project for me. 

1423
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,840
Like I was saying, I'm also 
Lebanese and born and raised in 

1424
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,280
Lebanon and I've been surrounded
in the 90s by Faido Daido 

1425
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,120
wherever I go. 
Not just like the the 7UP cans 

1426
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,320
and all of that, but also the 
T-shirts, all of the games, all 

1427
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,160
the toys, everything around you.
You would see Faido, Daido, 

1428
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,520
Faido, Daido. 
So for me it's what it's like a 

1429
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:54,080
mascot for my childhood and 
being able to be part of this 

1430
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,760
legacy is just amazing for me, a
40 year old legacy that that the

1431
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,960
aim for it is to live on far 
beyond me and and whoever comes 

1432
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,400
after me. 
So for me like really I just 

1433
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,600
enjoy every aspect of of this 
project. 

1434
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,320
It's so fun, it's so cheeky 
creating all of these fun 

1435
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,920
different cartoons and if you 
check the Twitter, we started 

1436
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,840
with the art with a certain idea
and a certain aesthetic and it's

1437
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,280
evolved throughout the the 
process because it became more 

1438
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,920
fun. 
We started out very like basic 

1439
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,320
style and eventually there there
were more shades and eventually 

1440
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,040
it became animations. 
It's animated. 

1441
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,600
So like most everything that I 
do is basically hand drawn on 

1442
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,760
paper. 
So like it's it's like the 

1443
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,880
primitive type of way of doing 
animations. 

1444
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,000
So they're they're drawn, 
they're hand drawn frame by 

1445
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,560
frame and then scanned and 
created into the animations that

1446
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,440
you see in front of you. 
So I really enjoy the process 

1447
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:56,720
and especially in working on 
this project has been an amazing

1448
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,160
ride and everything that's 
planned in the future, like 

1449
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:06,880
we're planning on bringing back 
Fido on like 7UP bottles as well

1450
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,440
as working on on on ATV series 
and on a movie. 

1451
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,160
And I'm so excited for all of 
that. 

1452
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,440
I started like writing out a 
story for all of these, a whole 

1453
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,840
storyboard for the movie and 
everything. 

1454
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,720
And it revolves around nostalgia
and basically the struggle 

1455
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:29,000
between us millennials on, 
between growing up and trying to

1456
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,920
still cling on, to cling on to 
the childhood that that was ours

1457
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,000
once before. 
So like, there's so much fun in 

1458
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,480
this. 
There's so much 90s nostalgia, 

1459
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,960
which I love. 
And yeah, I just enjoy every 

1460
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,920
aspect of it. 
And and I just can't wait for 

1461
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,320
you guys to see everything that 
we have going on and we're 

1462
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,320
preparing. 
So yeah. 

1463
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,920
This is exciting. 
I I I'm a I'm a fan. 

1464
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,920
I mean, Benny, did you see the 
the IG? 

1465
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,280
In the meantime, did you see the
art? 

1466
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:01,400
Are you meeting at it? 
No, I was just looking at it. 

1467
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,000
It's really great stuff. 
Like first of all, I noticed 

1468
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,680
that you did a the Sam Spratt 
Son of Lucy thing which looks 

1469
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,240
amazing, not? 
Yes, Sir. 

1470
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,920
Yeah, big fan of human AS. 
Well, no stuff looks your IG 

1471
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:15,760
looks. 
I love this one. 

1472
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,480
Where you're. 
Did I get it? 

1473
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,120
Yeah, my brain floating. 
Also, I feel like I have to 

1474
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,600
support you because anybody 
who's red haired, I understand 

1475
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,240
the trauma and the and the pain 
that you have suffered in your 

1476
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,000
life. 
I'm telling everybody it's 

1477
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:36,120
everywhere. 
Red beards. 

1478
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,960
It's going to be like the Web 3 
Ginger, so it's JGING 3R like 

1479
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,840
Ginger and it's going to be just
a web and like we can maybe put 

1480
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,760
court group for all you guys. 
Not that many of us left. 

1481
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,640
We're slowly dwindling down, so 
we. 

1482
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,400
Need to protect you all cost 
because yeah, right. 

1483
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,040
Ginger Potter's allowed in my 
tunnel, by the way. 

1484
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,280
I'm just saying. 
Oh, OK, yeah. 

1485
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,520
So Betty's building a tunnel. 
So you know, Benny's building a 

1486
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,960
tunnel inspired by what happened
at 770 in Brooklyn most 

1487
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,120
recently. 
So he's going to be building a 

1488
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,000
tunnel between Brooklyn and 
Paris. 

1489
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,920
Paris, in case. 
Y'all but yeah, dangers of web 

1490
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,000
three could be a cool idea. 
I mean, there's a lot of y'all 

1491
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,680
and the winds protect you and 
all the dangers I know are all 

1492
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:27,520
chads, so you love to see that. 
Anyways, so the I'm gonna get, 

1493
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,480
I'm so like there's gonna be a 
tweet right now saying sure. 

1494
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:38,040
Anyways, anyways, anyways, sorry
I get too excited. 

1495
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,920
So here I am on the website, on 
the mirror article I see these 

1496
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,960
awesome pieces of art. 
I see first thing I see is 

1497
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,320
there's a mint and I see a price
point that's fucking sick. 

1498
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:56,160
I see .003. 
So I see this automatically like

1499
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,440
this. 
Fire, Fire IP, fire people, fire

1500
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:03,800
artist Joe and and Ginger 
Potter, great team at Oasis, 

1501
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,600
Alan and and Najib. 
You guys are really on top of 

1502
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,240
things. 
Clearly you've done the 

1503
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,800
marketing of this product and 
the project very well thus far. 

1504
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,680
The arts is original and the 
mint cost is very low, which is 

1505
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,880
super cool. 
So does one of you want to talk,

1506
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,520
you know, lastly like to leave 
the people on this? 

1507
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,040
How do they participate? 
What do they need to do and when

1508
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,840
do they need to participate? 
Oh yes, I will. 

1509
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,280
I will explain that and I will 
let Najeeb finish with the tech 

1510
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,640
details. 
Basically what's to be clear, 

1511
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,880
the .03 is for the the fiddle 
list, what you call that. 

1512
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:41,440
It's the white it's closed but 
but to jump on and don't sleep 

1513
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:47,400
on the public mint it will be 
just after that it .04 it and 

1514
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,440
that's the price of the of of 
the this epic PFP we're offering

1515
01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:55,880
and and created by Ralph let me 
talk to you as I'm as I'm 

1516
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,520
telling you the work we're doing
in parallel of that as I said 

1517
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:05,040
we're not building an web three 
IT and web three IP and 

1518
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,000
launching it and creating 
project in parallel we're doing 

1519
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,840
project and bringing the license
and the contact of Joe like 

1520
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:17,000
we're contact and we're going to
post content of the prototype 

1521
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,680
we're doing with 7UP and Pepsi 
International. 

1522
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,720
We're going to, we're going to 
show the the Fido Bible we are 

1523
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,200
doing. 
It's like the requirement to 

1524
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,960
offer for big mainstream network
and I want to make a statement 

1525
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,320
here. 
Our goal is be the first Web 3 

1526
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:40,240
project to have his TV series in
a mainstream network on Cartoon 

1527
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,800
Network or Nickelodeon also. 
So thanks to Joe. 

1528
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,240
Thanks to this IP. 
Thanks to 30 years of track 

1529
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:53,960
record. 30. 
Years, man, 30 years of of of of

1530
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,240
revenue and and licenses and and
advertisement. 

1531
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,200
We are bringing that for you, 
for the holder. 

1532
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,480
We're building this company with
the holders and the community 

1533
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,680
and from that point we're we're 
going to spread the spread the 

1534
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,040
philosophy and the vision and 
the work and it's going to be a 

1535
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,120
product oriented project that's 
for sure. 

1536
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,800
And so, so that's it. 
The details are on as you can 

1537
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,840
see the Genesis holder hold of 
course a right to vote on the 

1538
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:31,360
next project behind the scene 
content and and some some 

1539
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,840
dividend and we're going to call
it a royalty program for now 

1540
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,680
based on each project, the PFP 
holder we're going to hold a 

1541
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:46,680
yield, A yearly dividend and and
and some cool other stuff and of

1542
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,160
course and the most importantly 
it's the the right to license 

1543
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,040
and throughout this royalty 
program you're going to be able 

1544
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,160
to license this legendary IP 
that we're bringing on Web 3. 

1545
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,760
So that's that's what we are 
doing right now. 

1546
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,840
That's the goal of the Mint. 
That thanks all of that thanks 

1547
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,160
also to this amazing team. 
Thanks to Raz the artist. 

1548
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:16,600
Thanks to Najib and the Oasis X 
Web three operator. 

1549
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,320
They are so amazing. 
We have this strong team and 

1550
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:25,640
beautiful team and and without 
Joe, we have, without her soul, 

1551
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:31,680
her vibe, her positive vibe, we 
would be nothing. 

1552
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,880
So it clicked. 
We're super cool. 

1553
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,560
We're super cool guys, thanks to
this amazing lady here. 

1554
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:46,880
And yeah, the sky is the limit. 
Let's don't sleep on us, 

1555
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,600
actually. 
No, no, I think this is awesome 

1556
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,760
even. 
But this see like I I I 

1557
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,760
appreciate like we've seen so 
many mints like over the last 

1558
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,920
three years something in a space
and obviously we've wholesaled a

1559
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,120
lot. 
We've also partnered with a lot 

1560
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,920
of people like yourselves and 
and and help them on that front 

1561
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,200
and stuff. 
And when I see like a mint 

1562
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,600
price, I'm like OK, cool. 
Like all your royalty stuff IP 

1563
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,880
things you're building is cool. 
But like, I'm cool just paying 

1564
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,360
that to have the art part from 
Joe. 

1565
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,320
Like, you know, I mean, like, 
it's like, I don't want to 

1566
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,200
downplay what you're doing for 
sake, but it's just like, OK, 

1567
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,880
cool, like one of four. 
Cool. 

1568
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,720
Like they can go and build 
whatever they want to build, 

1569
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,200
like, but I just want art and I 
think it's cool. 

1570
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,080
So damn, Joe, I'm your work. 
Let's go. 

1571
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,600
And she told me how amazing you 
were with her in Art Basel. 

1572
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,760
It's for for for a couple of 
calls and couple of meetings. 

1573
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,880
She she just spoke about Art 
Basel and and how how how fun it

1574
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,720
was and how new IT was for her 
and to be to be surrounded by 

1575
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:48,000
those people people and you were
special to her and thank you for

1576
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,040
that before before thank. 
You, Joe. 

1577
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,440
Thank you, Joe. 
I mean, Joe, I'm going to go to 

1578
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:54,640
you for some last words here. 
Thoughts, excitement on what? 

1579
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,080
Talk to me, Joe. 
I I want to hear Najib's voice. 

1580
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,760
That's what I want to hear. 
But I want to ask you real 

1581
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,720
quickly, babe, who's the guy who
was giving out the free 

1582
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,840
bracelets of the free Necklaces 
at at your event? 

1583
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,880
Michael Ray, the G These ones. 
Yeah, I have not taken it off 

1584
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,120
since I got it from. 
He is gonna. 

1585
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,080
Love this. 
He's probably in here. 

1586
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,360
So Michael Ray who is the crypto
jeweler. 

1587
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,160
I think he's been listening to 
me personally since like 

1588
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,560
clubhouse days like three years 
ago plus and two years ago at 

1589
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,800
Art Basel comes to me he's like 
hey I'd like to give you gift 

1590
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,280
you this GM necklace and I he I 
go do you wanna put it on me. 

1591
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,960
And he was like freaking out. 
I'm like yeah dude and I still 

1592
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:35,680
haven't taken it off. 
I. 

1593
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,120
Haven't haven't taken mine off. 
That's so cute. 

1594
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,640
Same for my mom and my little 
brother. 

1595
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,200
And Loxy was kind enough to give
his away to somebody else. 

1596
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,120
So we're going to get him, get 
him more. 

1597
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,000
But. 
That's so. 

1598
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,120
Cute of you to say that because 
yesterday the timing's so funny.

1599
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,840
Yesterday Michael literally made
a post about this. 

1600
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,800
I'll send you guys in the chat 
here. 

1601
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,920
If you want to. 
I can connect you off to give 

1602
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,200
maybe do something with Fido, 
Dido holders or whatever. 

1603
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:05,280
But it's he wrote a whole piece 
thanking us for like being part 

1604
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,720
of Miami. 
And there's a photo of me with 

1605
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:12,280
the the GM thing. 
So crypto jeweler, quick little 

1606
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,040
shout out, you know to A to a 
good friend and the hard 

1607
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,240
working, you know, yeah, a hard 
working person in the space. 

1608
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,160
Najeeb, we want to hear your 
voice now. 

1609
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,840
I guess you. 
Have been passed on. 

1610
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,360
To close us out. 
Nice. 

1611
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,560
And I shall just a couple of 
points here. 

1612
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,480
You were mentioning like you 
would collect this just for the 

1613
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,360
art value of it. 
I 100% agree with you. 

1614
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,800
Like all hand drawn, I remember 
Ginger when we did the Genesis 

1615
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,320
collection, 777 pieces. 
He drew every and each one of 

1616
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,080
these and on our daily calls he 
would tell me like I'm seeing 

1617
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,880
the world in black and white, 
like this is how much he was 

1618
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,840
immersed in this And so the art 
value is there. 

1619
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,400
And then second of all, like, 
really, we feel very blessed to 

1620
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:05,240
have come across this project. 
The the, the IP value is insane 

1621
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,560
here. 
And what's 1. 

1622
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,320
One thing we noticed in 2023 
leading up to this year is that 

1623
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,840
it's the projects that had 
proper IP value that survived 

1624
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,200
and that will be thriving for 
the coming years. 

1625
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:21,960
And these are the new web three 
IP projects. 

1626
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,760
So imagine bringing something 
that's existing for 30 years and

1627
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,960
just extending that IP onto this
new Renman new ecosystem. 

1628
01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:35,360
So there's no doubt that Fido 
would be a huge success here. 

1629
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:40,040
And yeah, we, we just can't wait
for next week and the phase 

1630
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,960
that's coming after that because
it's going to be crazy for 

1631
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,480
everyone that's participating in
this. 

1632
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,680
Look, best of luck with that. 
If Mando was here, I know what 

1633
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,680
he would be telling you. 
He would be telling you the same

1634
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,200
thing he told me when we minted 
for day one is the mint Day is 

1635
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,720
always the worst day. 
So when you go on your midday, I

1636
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,200
know it's funny advice to say, 
but it's expect everything to 

1637
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,040
break. 
Expect it all to go South, to go

1638
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,360
bad. 
Just wake up and tell yourself 

1639
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,920
it's all going to go wrong 
because then it's going to only 

1640
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,880
go up. 
And from there on for people 

1641
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,240
like us. 
And then you guys are the same. 

1642
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,880
Like the building part is the 
easy part, right? 

1643
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,880
Because you've been doing it for
30 years now, Joe, right? 

1644
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,400
You said 1985 fighter title, so 
it's like, you know you've been 

1645
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,280
there, you've done that. 
So it's and that's the easy part

1646
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,800
and it's it's something that 
y'all are good at. 

1647
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,120
So anyways, excited to follow 
this mint. 

1648
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,440
Excited to. 
I'm just excited. 

1649
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:36,040
I'm going to like wait for y'all
to go through the mint and all 

1650
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,080
that good stuff and then I'm 
going to go have fun and like 

1651
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,640
look on secondary for my forever
final because I need something 

1652
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,000
that reflects my punk or or 
myself and stuff. 

1653
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,120
So excited to look into Great 
Joe Najib, Allah Potter. 

1654
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,520
Thank you so much for coming on 
the show today for partnering 

1655
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:52,680
with us. 
And I'm excited to do more with 

1656
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,080
you guys. 
I wanna let's find a way to work

1657
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,720
together, you know, a little. 
Bit let's connect in NFT Paris 

1658
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,120
because I live between the 
Brussels and Paris. 

1659
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,560
Well, you just heard yourself 
your invite to our VIP event. 

1660
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,480
Let's go, man. 
Let's go, man. 

1661
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,240
We're doing our house, Paris. 
Thank you. 

1662
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,000
Yeah. 
So thank you guys. 

1663
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,440
And I will bring some Lebanese 
food for the VIP room. 

1664
01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:22,040
Yo, it will be on me. 
It will be on me. 

1665
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,400
Don't think. 
It will be the the Fido 

1666
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,440
Lebanese. 
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 

1667
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,880
Like after. 
Like, I'm Persian, so Persian 

1668
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:36,800
food's my favorite, but Lebanese
cuisine is my like up #2 or #1. 

1669
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,080
Even with the Persian people 
like keep it, keep benaye. 

1670
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,960
Everything you guys do is 
perfect. 

1671
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,640
So thank you so much. 
I'm excited. 

1672
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,840
We supply you the best in Paris.
Deep in the culture. 

1673
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,040
We bring some Lebanese 
restaurants. 

1674
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,720
We we know all of them in Paris.
We will bring all the food in 

1675
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:54,120
the OH. 
No. 

1676
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,880
Are you hearing this? 
Is Evan, the audience? 

1677
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,840
EV is the one on our side taking
care of the event. 

1678
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,640
EV, are you hearing this? 
We got we got some Lebanese food

1679
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,240
squared away for for this, but 
it's just for me, Just for me in

1680
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,920
the back and for locks again, 
just for me, all of it. 

1681
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,480
Oh my God, I love Lebanese food.
And yeah, deep in Lebanese 

1682
01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:13,480
culture. 
My, my first job growing up when

1683
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:15,760
I was 15, was working for three 
Lebanese brothers. 

1684
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,160
And they taught me everything I 
knew about sales then. 

1685
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,520
So I I just loved the culture. 
May or may not have dated a 

1686
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,560
crazy Lebanese woman once in my 
life, too. 

1687
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,720
So, you know, I've been. 
Yeah, it happens to the best of 

1688
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,640
us. 
But, you know, but I was the 

1689
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,000
crazy one. 
I don't know, for it's worth, 

1690
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,560
you know, I don't want to put 
the blame on anyone. 

1691
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:42,880
It was a little bit of both. 
Here's your part of Joe Najib. 

1692
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:44,760
Thank you. 
Thank you. 

1693
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:45,200
Thank you. 
Bye. 

1694
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,560
Bye, bye. 
Bye.

