1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,080 Yo-yo, yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Good morning, Good morning, GMG. Friday, Friday. 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:24,880 So I'm fixing the title. Friday, October up October 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,800 October 4th 2024444 Look at that another beautiful day to have a 5 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,040 beautiful anyway, if I'm not really saying it, this is kind 6 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,480 of nice numbers. It's what? 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Oh October is what Which month of the year is the 10th month of 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,840 the year right, 10 love yeah 10th mother of the year is 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,920 101044104. Is it 10-4 today 10410 four 1040 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,560 there he goes 10 four it's 2024. Look at that. 11 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,960 Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. 12 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Another day in paradise. I got my Co host in the house. 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Tyler, good morning. How are you doing today? 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,960 Fantastic. It's a green morning. 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,320 I feel like it's been a busy morning. 16 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:12,280 A lot of news coming in. I'm ready for it. 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Looks like maybe we'll have a good weekend here. 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,840 Yeah, it's definitely a Tyler top 1000 type per day, which is 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,880 good because we don't have men though, but also we'll be joined 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,880 by by Danny speech phrase in in about 20 minutes. 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,080 So so we definitely have time to go over everything you got to 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,360 talk about today because you're right, I got hit. 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,280 I this morning, I got hit by like a million things. 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,320 That's usually when I know that there's a ton going on in space 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,520 and usually, you know, time with time with us going higher. 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,720 So anyways, today on the show today, today market report, as 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 usual, we'll go over the market where we're looking at etcetera, 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,480 why we're pumping or why we're giving it all back, but 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,080 hopefully it keeps going higher. Tylers top 1000. 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,160 You have been promoted again to 1000 today, Tyler, 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,880 congratulations. Tylers Top 1000. 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,440 There's a lot of topics to go over and then we have Danny, my 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,200 good, good friends, Danny Suit phrase who is going to join us. 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,160 We've been meaning to have an episode where we talk about 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,920 state of art, like where we're at and everything of course, 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,800 which definitely doing with Roger Dickerman. 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Love his updates, but figured that we could coincide. 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,800 Daddy come in on the show with his M merch collaboration. 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Looks like it's closing, but maybe it may it may have sold 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,920 out by now. I haven't checked since 41 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:27,920 yesterday nearly. But also his sold to be sales 42 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:30,360 and he's got a lot going on in art, fashion, etcetera. 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 So I have a good conversation all around, like you know, art, 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,600 fashion in crypto, Web 3 and all that good stuff. 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,560 Then we're going to give it away. 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Another robot spin so you can win anywhere from a red guy 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,000 which is about $1500 to a crypto punk. 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,080 We have the king of the Punks on today, Tyler. 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,440 Oh. We yeah, today, today, maybe the 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,360 day today, maybe the day somebody wins the punk. 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,200 So that could be crazy. I'll make the robot spin during 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,080 the space and I'll try and make it, you know, crazy punk wise. 53 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:59,880 And then last but and then Danny's giving me one of his 54 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,000 hoodies that he minted. So super cool. 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,960 So you get, you know, a hoodie that he minted etcetera, which 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,400 is worth like, I don't know, 700 bucks, which is super cool. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,120 And then longest intro in the world. 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Hold on, last but not least, you know what I'm about to say right 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,240 now. This show is powered by Galaxies 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,920 with seamless building up monetization tools, Galaxies 61 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:21,120 enables the development of sustainable long term 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,960 communities, fulfilling bitcoins vision of decentralized freedom 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,320 and independence from centralized control. 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,640 All right, Tyler Tyler Tyler did it. 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,400 All right, let's just dive right into the market in your top 1000 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,440 Tyler T on FOMO. Our cause the kid can't. 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,240 Great to batch some bears. Yeah, I'll start off with a 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,240 quick market report. I do my best Mando impression 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,840 here. So a couple of macro headlines 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,520 on the good side. So the United States port strike 71 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,160 was temporarily resolved yesterday evening. 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,840 They ended up giving a 62% wage increase and the contracts 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,240 through January 15th. So that big risk overhang is now 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,320 gone. We got some good news this 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,520 morning from the jobs report. Lower unemployment, 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,920 significantly more jobs added than expected along with higher 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,279 average wages. Markets now pricing in less than 78 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,800 the 50 bits cut here for November. 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,040 Those odds are down from 40 to 13. 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,920 People like Ovie saying soft landing now fully, fully in 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,360 possibilities here. Recession fears are gone. 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,080 We saw the US dollar jump that used to be bad for crypto. 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,840 It wasn't the case this morning. So crypto was pumping, though it 84 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:41,680 looks like we're giving a little bit of it back here right now. 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,360 U.S. stocks opened up pretty nicely as well. 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,280 Those are giving a look back some of the gains here this 87 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:50,880 morning. We've got Bitcoin 61200 Solana 88 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,640 at 1:40. Oh yeah, we just heart dump as 89 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,280 you opened. Your we're down a little bit 90 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,200 there alts having a good morning though as well. 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,880 A lot of I saw a lot of alts up 10%. 92 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Tia Tau Ave. was up 5% on the grayscale news. 93 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,320 Memes are having a good morning after this news as well. 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,000 All the meme leaders up five to 10%. 95 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,800 Giga and Fog were big movers overnight. 96 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,400 They will come back to this. But man, Murad. 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Murad's list looks good. Can't, can't stop Murad. 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Can't stop Murad. But then some of the other 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,680 headlines here. A big one out of with impacts to 100 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,160 Bitcoin and all crypto, perhaps a new HBO documentary on the 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,720 electric, The Bitcoin Mystery claims to reveal who Satoshi is 102 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:38,280 Tuesday night at 9:00 PM Eastern. 103 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:41,200 So that's going to be a big one. We got a few other macro 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,000 headlines. PayPal executed their first ever 105 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,120 business transaction using their stablecoin PYUSD off an invoice 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,000 to Ernst and Young. We saw the CFTC move forward 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,880 with recommendations allowing tokenized shares of money market 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,640 funds to be used as collateral and trading. 109 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,960 So more progress on tokenized stocks, money market funds 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,360 there. Masari launched a new AI powered 111 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,720 system called Copilot. That was an interesting launch. 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,240 Yesterday we saw Abstract release their latest app that's 113 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,560 going to be on their L2 multiplier. 114 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,920 It's a meme and culture speculation app with the free 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,320 play option for creators. Mark Cubit a quote a lot of 116 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,920 quotes going viral from your interview there for the one 117 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,480 being the most traction is meme coin quote Every meme coin is a 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 rug pull in the works. We'll have your reactions to 119 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,520 that and then a couple other NNT headlines. 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Suzuki's announced a new partnership with Flashbots 2 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,760 debuted their Bobo magic show and their crypto punk sold sold 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,320 in quotes for 24,000 E that. Was that was. 123 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 But it turns out it was a marketing stunt for an upcoming 124 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,960 meme coin launch. So an interesting twist on on 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,680 that punk sale. But yeah, that's that's the 126 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,600 round up there. Yeah, that's that too. 127 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,440 There's definitely a lot to talk about today and you absolutely 128 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,520 love to say where do we even start? 129 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,680 I mean, we can talk quickly, quickly, quickly about the 130 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,360 market, Tyler. So obviously we got the payrolls 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,440 numbers and everything was actually surprising it seems 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,520 across the board. Bitcoin, do we think, do we 133 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,760 think this was our bottom? Apologies for the Lions, but 134 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,320 these are my personal head mental lines. 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 I didn't get my 58K but dude, we came close. 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,640 We went 59, eight yesterday. Do you think this was the 137 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,000 generational fourth quarter bottom? 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,200 I sure hope it's the bottom. I want to hesitate a little bit. 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,160 I'm getting 2 euphoric here. It was feeling a little bit. 140 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,680 It was feeling very bottoming this morning. 141 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,960 The fact that we're kind of giving it back this right now 142 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,280 isn't great. Actually, Walter Bloomberg, he's 143 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,480 tweeted 100 times this morning about the jobs one that he kind 144 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,920 of slipped in there. And some analysts are expecting 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,680 those job numbers to be revised lower. 146 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,720 So like we've already seen massive revisions in these 147 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,120 numbers throughout the year. If we if we pump because of that 148 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,320 headline and then we get the revision next week or in a few 149 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,040 weeks, right? It was it was a fake pump. 150 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,040 So I'm a little, you know, concerned about that, but I 151 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,280 don't know, it seems like that the Middle East conflict may be 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,760 moving in the right direction. So I think that's a big overhang 153 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,080 to remove. Yeah, the latest on that, it was 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,480 that the Arab countries, you know, are going to stand neutral 155 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,760 between Iran and Israel and ask him to kind of stop. 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,200 And then I think there was a video that went viral of like 157 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,400 one of the politicians from Saudi Arabia going talking to 158 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,559 Iran about how they want to better their relationships 159 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,400 because obviously historically they haven't had any good 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 relationships for religious purposes. 161 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,840 And then, and it looks like things are, I mean, the 162 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,280 sentiment from us is like things are calming down, but that 163 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,240 doesn't mean they are calm down because we don't have any like 164 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,040 ceasefires in place and stuff yet. 165 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,920 So we'll see what the we can bring to us. 166 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,240 I know this week was a week of celebration technically for, 167 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,360 for, for, for, for people in Israel, etcetera. 168 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,720 So maybe they were holding back, but what do I know? 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,000 We'll see. We'll see what happens over that 170 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,360 with the weekend. Hopefully. 171 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Please, please, we're done with it. 172 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,640 OK? It's better for the, I think for 173 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,600 the sake of the earth that things are done. 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,160 But look, we're, we're bouncing nicely. 175 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Tyler 61 three 2370 twenties 140 on the Solon 1:39-ish and then 176 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,760 the top memes Bitcoin. Sorry, Pepe was at 383.8 Bill, 177 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,360 but August back at what 551? And then you have with probably, 178 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,200 let me guess, 240 something. Oh wow, no 223 interesting 223 179 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,800 not a bad bounce there and a bunch of memes higher. 180 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaking of memes, this fog 1, you know I every day, I look at 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,640 it every day, I'm starting to feel a little depressed. 182 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,840 It just keeps going and I see more and more PFPS in the 183 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,360 timeline. They're nice too. 184 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,760 I just didn't get it. I I didn't see the the vision 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 for this one, so I totally faded it another 11 percent 186 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,000 137,000,000 basically hanging out at all time highs. 187 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Nuts. Looks good, Yeah. 188 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,360 I mean, you mentioned whiffs. I mean, we got kind of low last 189 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,080 night, so whiff like went, I think sub two briefly. 190 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,880 So 225. It's something that's 10% off 191 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,320 the bottom, decent rebounds on a lot of these. 192 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,960 I think the other thing jumping out to me about this meme market 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,720 is I I mentioned it, but the Maraud memes, the Giga. 194 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,680 I think Giga is the number one story of of the day. 195 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,000 It's up 36% to 329. Oh. 196 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,840 My. You're the first time we talked 197 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,520 about Giga to fill in that Wick, go see what it was. 198 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,240 It was, it was back on July, that was it. 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,800 But what was the price at that day? 200 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,480 I don't want to talk to you about this right now. 201 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,960 It's up 22 X since June 24th. Yeah. 202 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:44,800 So we, we, we missed out on a 10X for sure there. 85 it's no, 203 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,360 it's for the from the bottom of the wig, so it's from here. 204 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Right. Yeah, from right around there, 205 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,160 maybe a little lower. Yeah, from here, actually, yeah. 206 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,320 That's what it would have. Been 516% pump since we. 207 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,040 Missed a 5X. Yeah, I don't know, I I feel 208 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,920 like people are starting to index Murad plays like or just 209 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,480 buy across the whole list or buy the ones at the top like that. 210 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,200 That's my current working thesis on what's happening because his 211 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,520 his list is it's outperforming the rest of the market. 212 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Right. This is fucking sick. 213 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,440 This this is so sickening. I I'm done. 214 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,640 All right, you're going to have to host the show. 215 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,400 OK, No, I'm back. But you know, all while my my 216 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,000 main coin that I I picked one, I was like, fuck this, I'm done. 217 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,440 I picked 1 and it's been just flat for six months but. 218 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Yeah. It pumped 25% overnight too, but 219 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,520 but it's flat compared to all the ones that want 10X. 220 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,800 So you know, it is what it is. Bitcoin's man, Bitcoin's strong, 221 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 dude. Bitcoin's strong. 222 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,400 It's back at 61 four. I, I, I don't know. 223 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,000 I don't know. I don't know. 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,840 I like it. I like I like where we're headed 225 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,080 into the weekend. Yeah. 226 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,560 I mean, it feels a lot better than 59. 227 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Let's just let's just say that. Oh, we kissed 62,000 earlier 228 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,080 anyways. So that's that means listen, the 229 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,720 market is doing good. But still I would I would be 230 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,280 wary before like going all in right away, right? 231 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,120 I think we still have a little overhang in its weight. 232 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,840 Like the what's happening, this is not resolved just so you 233 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,000 know, like it's like, it's like, yeah, there's the comfort 234 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,360 neutrality doesn't mean that Iran or Israel are going to be 235 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,200 like, listen to other countries and just go with it. 236 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,160 So, so we'll see on that front. Tyler, what else? 237 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,200 I mean, the the Satoshi thing I thought was very interesting. 238 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,320 So or not, you know, we'll see if it's interesting or not. 239 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,360 We don't know. But I saw that as well as soon 240 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,640 as it was posted. So apparently there is a 241 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,840 documentary on BBC that claims on HBO, sorry, that they that 242 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,480 know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Tell me more about this. 243 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,160 Yeah, that's the headline. It's called Money Electric, the 244 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Bitcoin Mystery. The reason that this is got some 245 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,240 weight behind it is it's made by Emmy nominated filmmaker Colin 246 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Hobeck. That matters because Hobeck 247 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,600 previously was behind the documentary which identified the 248 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,160 authors of Q Anon. So he does have a track record 249 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,080 of successfully identifying anonymous founders. 250 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,880 So this is isn't just like a totally random person coming out 251 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,600 with this documentary because I'll admit I was pretty 252 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,400 skeptical at first. It's going to air next Tuesday, 253 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,680 9:00 PM Eastern in the summer. I think there's some 254 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,720 frontrunners. Paulie Market has already spun 255 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,440 up a market here on some of The Who The potential candidates 256 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,480 could be. Lynn Sassman, the leader here 257 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,840 this morning, I think I saw him over 40%. 258 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,560 Hal Finney, Adam back also in 2nd and 3rd. 259 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,000 And then Beanie. Beanie's top pick was Paul Le 260 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Roux. I think that's hanging out 261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,040 around 4 or 5%. Go to Satoshi. 262 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Yeah, yeah. There you are. 263 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,480 Who are we betting on? Assessment's up to 48%. 264 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Wow. Oh shit, there's one also that's 265 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,040 down there. It's others slash multiple and I 266 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,240 think people are sleeping on this. 267 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,680 I would bet this if I were to bet because dude, because you. 268 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,560 Why are people betting on one person? 269 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 I don't think Bitcoin was. I mean that's my take. 270 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,800 I don't think Bitcoin was a one man job. 271 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,040 What do you qualify being one person or multiple? 272 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,960 What does multiple qualify as the Tyler because like I. 273 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,480 Didn't even see the multiple was in here. 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,400 OK. Because it's at the bottom bro. 275 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 It was at 33% yesterday. People not seeing it man like. 276 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Interesting. I were to bet personally 277 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,440 speaking I I my money is on multiple if I were to bet on 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,960 this. What's the fine print on this? 279 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Can you Scroll down? Let's go so the rules of the 280 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 market were resolved to yes. If the HBO documentary Money 281 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Electric the Bitcoin mystery is currently scheduled to air on 282 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,080 October 8th identifies someone other than Craig Wright Sassman 283 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,720 all the names, whatever, I'm not gonna read them as the primary 284 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,840 creator of Bitcoin. Otherwise this market was off to 285 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 no like listen to this as the primary. 286 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,280 What if they say oh, SAS man was the guy behind it and helped, 287 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,480 but we don't know who that other person is that received the 288 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,520 payment. We don't know. 289 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,640 And then it goes. If the documentary modifies 290 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,880 multiply individuals, this market resolves according to the 291 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,200 individual which the document most directly depicts or 292 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 presents is most likely to be responsible to creating Bitcoin. 293 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,040 If two or more individuals presented as equally likely in 294 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,200 the conclusion of documentary, the market is off to yes. 295 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,320 So equally likely or other or multiple. 296 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,520 Wins. I feel like those those last two 297 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 paragraphs kind of conflict with each other a little bit. 298 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,800 So I don't know, I'll just spend a little more time with this 299 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Other was my first bet on this as well. 300 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,600 I mean, I've got a lot of thoughts. 301 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,480 So I think 1 I think there's a lot on the line for for this, 302 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,160 right? Like if, if, if they actually 303 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,760 are able to identify the the person you know, pending who it 304 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,320 is, right? Like if it's also. 305 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Why can't you ban the NSA or the CIA? 306 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,520 That's that's actually what my thought was, but I haven't 307 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,680 really gone down the rabbit hole on these. 308 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Yeah. Because a lot of some people 309 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,480 think that Bitcoin is CIA OP I have talked to a lot of people 310 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,360 who think that I don't know, I what do you, what do you think, 311 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,600 Tyler? Who, who? 312 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,480 Who's the Toshi Tyler? It's not Elon I I know that. 313 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Thank you. But yeah, I I honestly don't 314 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,560 know. I haven't gone down the rabbit 315 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,200 hole in this. I'd probably take other if I had 316 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,520 to bet on this. Not a lot of. 317 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Come on, take someone. I mean, I have to probably just 318 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:33,040 go with the leader, Sassman. Hard to fade this much as many 319 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,320 folks who who are already putting their money where their 320 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,360 mouth is on Sassman. He's clearly the front runner 321 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,360 headed into this. I actually don't know. 322 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,240 I think Sessman is is deceased. I I believe I I think there's 323 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,000 less risk. Yeah, he's late. 324 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,640 I'm I'm just hoping that whoever invented it is actually dead 325 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,040 because that way just felt like oh he's alive. 326 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,520 The risk of I started to sound grim or anything, but that's not 327 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,560 how I meant it. How I meant it is because if 328 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,720 he's dead, the motherfucker can't fuck with it after the 329 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,440 HBO. There's that and they hold, they 330 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,800 hold 1.1 million Bitcoin. I didn't know the exact total 331 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:11,040 until yesterday, 66 billion. Dollars so I'm just you know 332 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:16,079 that's kind of that's kind of how I'm thinking about it yeah 333 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:20,359 you know so I don't know man I my bet's going to be on multiple 334 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:28,319 because what if it's SAS man and this other person it's the 335 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:30,640 person in Asia. What's your name? 336 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,800 Nakamoto Dorian, right? What if it's him and Dorian? 337 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,960 What if it's what if it's him And you know, and, and, and so 338 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,480 you never know who and who it is. 339 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,840 So I don't know. I don't know. 340 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,000 I think you know what when when Danny comes on, I think that's a 341 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,240 good thing. We can go over with Danny when 342 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,760 he's on because he was early on Bitcoin. 343 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,360 So maybe yo, what if it's seed phrase might. 344 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Be. Maybe find Deco's oh there oh 345 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,040 there, surprise. What's up? 346 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Surprise, surprise, GM. Here, come on the spaces when 347 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,440 you count and then we'll we'll we'll come in on the. 348 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,680 Spaces as well. You caught me by surprise. 349 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,160 I was going. To yeah here we'll we'll boot 350 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,200 you back down when you're on spaces and stuff give me a 351 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,840 thumbs up in the studio we'll bring you back up well there you 352 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,640 go we'll we'll ask him directly so before we go to Danny and 353 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,280 stuff what what else you have for us Tyler I. 354 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Mean the the punk the flash loan is probably the one of the more 355 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,000 interesting things that happens. OX quit kind of broke the broke 356 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 down the story of what actually happened. 357 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,640 I think the tech is cool. So basically it's all done 358 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,880 between 2 contracts. 2 smart contracts 1 smart contract had 359 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,520 the punk in it, smart contract two had nothing and the punk 360 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,760 gets listed for 24,000. Eighth you get the flash loan 361 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,400 initiated. The punk gets bought. 362 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,440 Contract 2 now has the 24,000 eighth pays off the loan 363 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,480 contract one now has the punk no fees, no profits. 364 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,040 So it begs the question of why it's like why do this? 365 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,560 But it turns out it it looks like it it was a marketing 366 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,040 stock. So the person behind this is 367 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,680 launching a Kamala Harris punk memecoin. 368 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,320 They're they're also auctioning the punk via like a seven day 369 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 pre sale process. It looks like the person who's 370 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,680 who's doing it gets 10% of the pre sale funds, 90% to the IT 371 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,880 looks like that the clown eyes were were chosen for a reason 372 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,800 there. I, I don't necessarily need to 373 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,200 get into that. I think you could draw your own 374 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,720 assumptions for why that that punk was chosen. 375 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,360 So there's a little bit more to it. 376 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,440 I did not dive deep into the, the meme coin. 377 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,360 So hey, it's, I mean, it's one of the, the bigger marketing 378 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,200 budgets, you know, that that we've seen. 379 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,200 I mean, of course the money got paid off, but it was flashy. 380 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,920 Yeah, yeah. That's that's interesting. 381 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,240 I mean, what's So what are we? Are we buying this like? 382 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,160 I probably won't be. I mean, we've got enough. 383 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,920 Tyler. 'S on its way out, right? 384 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,280 Like we've only got 30 days left, 33, whatever it is. 385 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,880 It was so funny though getting notification and being able to 386 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,120 tweet free under 54. The true story is the one that 387 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,480 Tyler doesn't want to tell you guys because Ovie asked him not 388 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,240 to talk about it. Ovie paid him off. 389 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,120 I didn't know Tyler could be paid off to be honest. 390 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,000 I thought he was always very, you know, honest man that 391 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,480 couldn't be bought. But basically it was OSFOSF 392 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,800 wanted to flex on us plebs and paid $54 million for a floor 393 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,360 punk because why and why not? Because he wanted to prove a 394 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:28,360 point. Tyler what? 395 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,360 Why don't you just leave with that, you know? 396 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Yeah, we've been, because we colluded on it, only just 397 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,160 acquiring all of the all of the punks. 398 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,200 He's spending hundreds of thousands of eight. 399 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Yeah, I mean, he bought 2 aliens, he bought a zombie 400 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,480 hoodie, and now he's he's bought a $54 million floor punk. 401 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 I mean, go figure. This is this is this is quite 402 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,080 crazy. Anyways, I love that. 403 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,800 All right, well, that's, that's a good roundup. 404 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Let's bring Daddy up Daddy seat phrase in the house. 405 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Baby, What's up? What's up? 406 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,200 How you doing? GMGM how are we all hoodie 407 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,400 season right now in Switzerland? It's lovely. 408 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,600 Yeah, it's hoodie season in Montreal as well. 409 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,840 I think I'm in Chicago too. No, Tyler, aren't you getting 410 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,160 close to? We're getting there. 411 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,920 We're still like in the 60s and 70s, but like in the morning, 412 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,000 it's cooler. Yeah, definitely. 413 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,600 I don't think any or myself understand what 6. 414 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,360 Like Celsius? Sounds hot. 415 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,760 It's like what, an 18? So what I actually call it 416 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,680 Google it 16, yeah. I have to do the converter. 417 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,680 It's 15 Celsius to 21 Celsius. OK, got it. 418 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Same here. That is what he sees in for me. 419 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:39,880 Always what he sees in. Daddy. 420 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,440 So actually, before we dive into all the stuff we got ready for 421 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,640 you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Have you seen this HBO thing? 422 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,640 Like who do you? You're an OG Bitcoiner. 423 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Like what? What do you? 424 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,200 What do you think? Look like you know, seeing Obi 425 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,440 purchase, you know all of these punks recently for ridiculous 426 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,280 amounts of money. You know as you mentioned 2 427 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,400 aliens. He just bought another floor 428 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,600 punk for 50 million. Like this guy's loaded. 429 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,680 It has to be Obi. I love that. 430 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,560 If you had to take a guess out of the Poly market lines, who 431 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,360 would you think? Do you think it's like, what is 432 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,200 Leon Sassman or Hal Finney or one of those? 433 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,360 I think it was Hal. I think like my my bet has 434 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:24,120 always been like Hal Finney again, like I, I haven't really 435 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:27,040 gone down that rabbit hole for many years now, but it was 436 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 definitely one of those like early bitcoiners who were around 437 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,160 in, you know, 2000 and nine 2010, you know, mining on their, 438 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,000 you know, home computers CPUs getting, you know, tons of 439 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,560 bitcoins for like pretty much nothing. 440 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840 So I I would definitely assume it's them. 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,720 The fact that it said that it's going to impact the US election 442 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,680 makes me think that it potentially could be the NSA. 443 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Dare I say that? Too. 444 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Yeah. So like, I don't know, like it 445 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,840 could be, you know, a three letter agency. 446 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,800 It could be, you know, an individual. 447 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,560 I wouldn't be surprised if it was an agency though. 448 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,360 Yeah, like I think I was talking to Sobie one day, like a few 449 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,720 years ago. He was like, yeah, like he told 450 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,440 me all about the CIA. Like a lot of people. 451 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,160 I was CIA for a moment or something. 452 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,760 They, it's crazy, I can't remember the story exactly, but 453 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,160 like the encryption that we had up until recently, for the last 454 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,920 like 40 years, it was just found out that the CIA had a backdoor 455 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,480 the entire time. And this was the same encryption 456 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,640 that Iran was using. And like, you know, many other 457 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,280 countries. So I wouldn't be surprised if it 458 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,200 was the CIA. Whether or not that is bullish 459 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,520 or bearish, if that ever comes out, I don't know. 460 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720 It's probably very bearish for the States. 461 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,520 So I hope it doesn't come out. If that's the case, I hope it is 462 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,920 like Hal Finney and you know, he just, you know, you know, passed 463 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,720 with his seed phrase. But who knows it, it could be 464 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,920 really like anyone at this point. 465 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,880 It's been so many years that have passed since Satoshi's 466 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,320 disappeared that you know that the traces to find this person 467 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,080 or it or whatever it is, you know, it's, it's long gone now. 468 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,000 It'd be very difficult to try and track it down. 469 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,280 Yeah, that I was telling Tyler that. 470 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,600 I hope whoever it is, I hope. I mean, I didn't mean to sound 471 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,560 so great. I'm hope they're dead because we 472 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,560 definitely don't want a founder of Bitcoin that is that is 473 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,000 alive. I don't know, unless it's the 474 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,520 CIA and they can do some crazy shit with it. 475 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,600 Anyways, that's not what we're here to talk about. 476 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,200 Just a reminder for everybody, we are doing a bunch of 477 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,120 giveaways today. Well, two of them actually on 478 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,200 the show. Daddy is going to give away a 479 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,160 hoodie from his latest collection, which I'm sure we're 480 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,840 going to get to It's actually a really cool hoodie. 481 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,200 He he showed me the, the, the piece that he wants to give 482 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,920 away. It's going to be this one hoodie 483 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,320 #53 look at this actually so clean nice caller, nice caller. 484 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,320 So he'll be able to either win emerge hoodie or you have a 485 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,320 chance to get a spin to potentially win a crypto punk 486 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,160 today on the show. The odds are the highest they've 487 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,440 ever been. I just made them 1.25% chance to 488 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,240 win a punk, so that's that's not. 489 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,880 Last time I was on the show and you did a spin, someone won in 490 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,680 the lady, right? Yes. 491 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,360 In the summer, yes. So hopefully someone who's 492 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,200 listening today is going to get lucky again. 493 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Yes, Sir, that's definitely what we're what we're hoping for 494 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320 today on the show. So you know, it could happen. 495 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800 I think I think there's a very high chance of it happening 496 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,280 today. So we'll see. 497 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,360 So all you have to do is go to rafflebot dot XYZ, raffle RAFFLE 498 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,720 BOT dot XYZ, and then you put the code seed phrase. 499 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,360 Boom, the code today is seed phrase S EE DPHRASE. 500 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,320 There you go, little spelling bee for y'all. 501 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,840 And and you'll have a chance to either win a hoodie or a spit. 502 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,840 Anyways, when we get right into it, I mean, Danny, why don't you 503 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,360 tell me like what, what's, what's the what's the latest? 504 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,480 I know Tyler's got some questions queued up for you too, 505 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,840 but like, you know, how's the how's this latest collaboration 506 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,480 been for you? Because that's that's been a big 507 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,240 one. It has been a big one. 508 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Yeah. No, I've been, it's been such an 509 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,160 exciting ride this entire time. You know, you, you joined us in 510 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,240 New York. You got to see it first hand at 511 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,000 the Swarovski event. You know, we've been going at 512 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,960 this now for, I would say about six months, you know, since I 513 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,720 first met Colby during NFTNYC, when the, you know, the idea, 514 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560 you know, blossomed. And yeah, it's just been a 515 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,800 pleasure. It's been so much fun. 516 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,120 It's exactly, you know, what we had imagined, if not better. 517 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,760 You know, we really reimagined the hoodie from Genesis. 518 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,040 You know, we improved the materials, we improved the 519 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,760 actual fit and the feel of it as well. 520 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,040 And we also wanted to like, you know, one up it. 521 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,160 You know, obviously the seven trade punk is a high valued 522 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,280 digital asset and we wanted to, you know, be able to show that 523 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,360 through the hoodies themselves, which is, you know, why we 524 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600 partnered with Swarovski, who did the cord ends on some of the 525 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,200 hoodies, which look insane. You know, each each chord ends, 526 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,200 you know, represents a certain trade of the punk. 527 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,640 You know, they're all in rusty crystal. 528 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,520 And then there's also two in the collection that a diamond and 529 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,760 white gold. So yeah, that that to me is 530 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,680 like, you know, it's it's such an incredible, you know, 531 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,200 accomplishment. And, you know, I'm so obviously 532 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 proud of our, you know, our partners that came on board for 533 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,440 this. You know, it's a really big 534 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,440 moment. And you know, just to note on 535 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,000 the diamond, thankfully, you know, for one of mergers 536 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,120 investors, they are they they rolled the diamond and they were 537 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,200 like, look like this doesn't belong to me. 538 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,280 I would love to give this to the community instead. 539 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,280 So they gracefully, you know, yeah, so they've gracefully put 540 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,840 the diamond hoodie into a raffle. 541 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,280 And anyone who has minted a Drop 2 hoodie gets the chance of 542 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,000 getting the diamond hoodie. So I think that's gonna be like, 543 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,800 you know, a really big perk for some people. 544 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,920 But the diamonds sold for over $15,000 on Christie's, and that 545 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,200 was christies.com, not Christie's 3.0, which was 546 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,000 another big accomplishment as well. 547 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000 And also, you know, obviously we've got Claire Silver 548 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,120 involved. You know, she created some 549 00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:00,480 insane, mainly incredible AI artwork to accompany each 550 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,880 hoodie. And you know, obviously, 551 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,200 although Christie's participants who won their lot, they will get 552 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,520 a one of one Claire silver work. So, you know, I think it's just 553 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,400 a, you know, it's really like a mega packed, you know, 554 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,040 collaborative drop here and you know, it really shows and really 555 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,080 well represents the brand as well. 556 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Yeah, no, I absolutely love that. 557 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040 And I'm sure we'll get into even more details a little further. 558 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,720 Tyler. Tyler, do you want to take this 559 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,400 on? I know you have a couple 560 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,280 questions for Danny. Yeah, I guess maybe before we 561 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960 move on though, I guess, Danny, working folks, I guess the 562 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,720 raffle's still going like working folks. 563 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,160 Yeah, yeah. So there's roughly, you have to 564 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,360 be quick though. There's only like 35 hoodies 565 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,240 left. It's on merch dot XYZ, So that's 566 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,800 MMERCH dot XYZ. See, there's only 35 left. 567 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,040 There's not many left to be minted and anyone who 568 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,240 participates in this drop will go into the draw to win the 569 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,360 diamond hoodie And as I said, the the other diamonds sold on 570 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,120 Christie's for over $15,000. So you know, additionally you 571 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,920 also have a chance of getting a Swarovski crystal, you know, and 572 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360 also you get some class silver artwork as well. 573 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,480 So again, rammed with, you know, a ton of value there for, you 574 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,880 know what this is, you know, again, it's a high end luxurious 575 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240 hoodie just in time for the winter. 576 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520 So and it's also, you know, it's brought to you by a bunch of 577 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,160 punks, you know, mini muse, Claire Silva and myself. 578 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,880 So, you know, we're, we're really like, you know, stepping 579 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880 out there and, you know, showing what's possible when it comes to 580 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,440 like collaborative, you know, initiatives like this. 581 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,280 That was so fun, by the way, Tyler. 582 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880 I went to the event in New York for one night and it was a lot 583 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,440 of fun. It was cool. 584 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400 I was just Swarovski, like it was cool always to see the big 585 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,320 brands. Like I know we talk about 586 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Lamborghini this week, right, Tyler? 587 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240 It's like it's cool to see like some of them actually still kind 588 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,480 of want to do NFTS right and and get involved with culture, which 589 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,240 I'm sure we'll get to. But anyways, Tyler, right back 590 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,080 to you. Yeah, I'm a big Claire Silver 591 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,680 fan, so, so love seeing her name in there as well. 592 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,080 But but, but Danny, your name is in the headlines for multiple 593 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,200 reasons. You got some some plans with 594 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Sotheby's next week. So yeah. 595 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920 So what's going on there? Help catch us up. 596 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,880 Yeah, So you know, over the last month I also did you know the 597 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,560 the remix with Blondish, We we released some physical vinyls. 598 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,160 And then just recently I also announced my Sotheby's sale, 599 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,480 which will be running from October 7th to the 10th. 600 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,720 And I'm going to be offering seven Autoglyphs, which is I 601 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,800 think a very significant sale because purely you just can't 602 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,040 get those right now on the market. 603 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,680 You know, that we're seeing a few different simple ones sell 604 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,760 currently, but you know, we we are offering, you know, a range 605 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,680 of symbols here. They're all unique symbols. 606 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680 It's really going to be catered towards someone who's, you know, 607 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,120 trying to either build a set, you know, fill some gaps in 608 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,960 their set. Again, like these are legendary, 609 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,720 you know, works of art. You know, these are historic. 610 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,720 They're the first ever on chain generative to wax ever to be 611 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,000 minted. So I'm really excited for the 612 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,440 sale. I've, you know, got full trust 613 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760 in Michael to, you know, really like, you know, bring this out 614 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,360 to the world because this is a, you know, a once in a lifetime 615 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,080 opportunity as well to really get a good chunk of Autoglyphs 616 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440 at once. So very excited about this. 617 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,840 Who do you think that the profile of the virus is it, is 618 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,840 it crypto native, digitally native or do you think it's 619 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,280 traditional? I, I, it's, it's interesting 620 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,480 because I have been, you know, I sold a couple of Autoglyphs over 621 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,480 this summer. Not that, you know, not too many 622 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,920 people know that, but I, I have been, you know, secretly and. 623 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,440 You know what? I was there. 624 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Yeah, you were, you were there for one. 625 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,320 And what I'm actually finding is that there's a lot of tried art 626 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,440 interest. There's a lot of like 627 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,520 institutional interest. It's typically people who have 628 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,160 the budget for this. And you know, especially for 629 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,440 like the first one that I sold, you know, a lot of these people 630 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040 who are, you know, getting into the space, they're filling it 631 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,800 out a little bit. You know, they do come from more 632 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,960 of like the contemporary art world. 633 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,760 You know, they're used to physical paintings and things 634 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,040 like that. They these people when they want 635 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480 something and if they go into something like they go into a 636 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520 big right. And that is the biggest 637 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480 statement you can make is by getting an Autoglyph or a full 638 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,040 set of Autoglyphs. So what I've really found is 639 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,320 like, it has been a lot of trad art or, you know, trad finance 640 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240 people outside of our space. There's not too many people 641 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,480 actually within our space who is buying generative art right now. 642 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920 So that is also why I tapped Sotheby's for the sale because I 643 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,160 know that they have such a large traditional base and they're 644 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,320 going to be putting this in front of a lot of like more like 645 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,920 traditional eyes who would be probably a lot more interested 646 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,960 in buying these. Yeah, it makes sense. 647 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,840 We were just having a conversation on the show 648 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,280 yesterday or the day before about, you know, it's like what 649 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,320 is standing out in the digital art space right now? 650 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,440 It's for like a traditional art collector or someone, you know, 651 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000 coming in that that that could stand the test of time. 652 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520 It feels like my short lists, you know, X copy. 653 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,760 I think punks are on the list, you know, like if junior and 654 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,240 Mars on the list, like it's got to be out of glyphs, right? 655 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 I'm curious, like what what else is top of mind for you? 656 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240 Like are those the big three? Like what else is in like top 657 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,120 five, top ten? Like if you think of or wealthy 658 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,520 traditional art group is coming in, what are they gonna be 659 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,360 looking at? I've always with my collection 660 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000 style like I've always taken a very like fundamental approach. 661 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,000 So what is a first, what is historic? 662 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,800 This has been something that like I've really driven my sales 663 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,240 or like collection as well. So mostly tinkered with like, 664 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,680 you know, like very like early works, you know, something that 665 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,920 is like very culturally relevant, such as crypto punks, 666 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,760 you know, the first ever 10K collection culturally, maybe one 667 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,840 of the most, you know, relevant collections in the entire, you 668 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,600 know, industry that we're in. And then, you know, obviously 669 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,280 with Autoglyphs as well, you know, being the first ever on 670 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640 chain generative arts, there's no denying the historical 671 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,720 relevance to that, right? So, you know, besides those two 672 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,400 collections, you know, you could maybe argue, you know, obviously 673 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,800 for denses as well, just seeing a Fidenza on the screen, you 674 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,560 know, X copy. He has such an incredible, you 675 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,719 know, base of collectors who have supported him over the 676 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,719 years. I think, you know, when it comes 677 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,280 to digital art, X copy is definitely one of those first 678 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,120 names that comes to mind. And two others that I would add 679 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,600 to that would be people, you know, there's no, there's like, 680 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,560 you know, he's undeniable what he has done for our industry and 681 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960 how he's continued to support our industry, especially after 682 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,880 that big $69 million sale during Christies. 683 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,480 And Rafik Anadal, you know, like I, I think a lot of people 684 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,960 resonate with his work. He's doing a lot of work getting 685 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,120 digital arts in front of a lot of people who would typically 686 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,360 not even like, you know, pay any attention to this. 687 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,840 And you know, he's just announced he's doing a AI museum 688 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,440 in Lai believe it is, which is incredible. 689 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,920 You know, like again, like I am all about and wanting to support 690 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,440 anyone who is pushing this space forward. 691 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,880 And you know, these individuals are really showing that. 692 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,400 Yeah, Rethink's very interesting that the museum, I think it's 693 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,800 gonna shine a light on AI art. I've been hearing whispers that 694 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,640 that perhaps you've been going deeper down the the AI art. 695 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,000 That's what I have. That accurate I guess What what 696 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,240 stands out to you about that sector like what's been kind of 697 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:28,160 on your radar? Yeah, look, like I, I had known 698 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,240 about AI art for years, but I don't think I really fully 699 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,840 understood it until about ChatGPT 3 or 3.5 when I really 700 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,240 had like this lightbulb moment where I realized that every 701 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,840 single person on this planet, you know, whether they know it 702 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,240 or not, are going to be impacted by AI, right? 703 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,320 It's it's now it's set in stone, it's going to happen. 704 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,080 So I think for me, you know, once AI does, you know, get that 705 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,080 mainstream adoption when it is in everyone's pockets or like in 706 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560 their, you know, sunglasses or something like that. 707 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,720 You know, I, I do want to be able to like tell that story of 708 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,160 where this begun. A lot of people are going to 709 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,400 take this technology for granted. 710 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,680 It, you know, at the time, even present day today, you know, 711 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,120 it's, it's very beautiful. You can almost, you know, 712 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,680 indistinguishly, you know, choose like what is real and 713 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,520 what is fake. You know, when you are looking 714 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,920 at AI images, you're already seeing like a bunch of, you 715 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,800 know, social media influences that aren't even real anymore, 716 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,840 right? So like, what does that look 717 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520 like in five years time? And so like, I really want to be 718 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,880 able to like, you know, tell that story. 719 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,840 I want to show the origins, the history. 720 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,920 I want to show the ugliness of AI like where this all begun, 721 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,280 because I think like a lot of people will be interested in 722 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,560 that in the future. And I would just want to, you 723 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,800 know, be able to like support the the artists. 724 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,680 You know, there's a lot of like, you know, great artists like 725 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Claire Silva who have been working at this now for many, 726 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,840 many years and she's finally starting to get the recognition 727 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440 that she deserves. So I want to be on that ride 728 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,200 with them and like see them grow and help them prosper and 729 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,200 elevate them in some way, right. So, you know, I think like that 730 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,080 is, you know, a fantastic cause. And I think, you know, from a 731 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,960 more of like a collecting side, you know, if someone is looking 732 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,160 to get into the AI space and they are wanting to potentially 733 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,600 make some money from it, you have to look at how small the 734 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,280 market cap is of AI art. You know, even when you compare 735 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,720 it to generative art, generative art is only, I think it's a 736 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,200 billion market cap right now, whereas like AI is around 100 737 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,360 million mark. I think both are incredibly 738 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,720 significant. I have a lot of generative art 739 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,440 and I continue to buy it to today. 740 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,640 But you can't deny that AI art is going to have a big impact 741 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,560 on, you know, the world. And I could potentially see it 742 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,800 even surpassing generative art. So even just for it to get to 743 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,520 the point of where generative art is today, it's a 10X. 744 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,000 And then, you know, if it does what I think it will do, you 745 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,120 know, it's going to make a lot of people happy at least anyway, 746 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000 in that sense. The, the, the thesis makes sense 747 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 to me and I've dabbled a little bit in in AI art. 748 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,720 I haven't thrown a whole lot of at it like Deep Black. 749 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,760 What was one collection that that jumped out that was? 750 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,440 One of my fast as well. I like that quite a bit. 751 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,600 I'm curious, do you, do you look at aesthetics like you actually 752 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,760 mentioned the ugliness of AIR? And something comment about the. 753 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,080 Ugliness is not the most aesthetic collection unless 754 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,120 you've got the full sets. But yeah, correct. 755 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,320 So like, you know, I have a full set of the paper prompts and I 756 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120 have a full set of the process prompts aesthetically. 757 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,640 What does that mean? Do you want to explain just? 758 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,200 I don't mean to stop you there. What does it mean? 759 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,760 A full set of the proper prompts. 760 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,600 The paper prompts were basically what was included in the initial 761 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,400 scientific paper when the artist was actually like proving this 762 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480 like text to image process that he created. 763 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,840 So that is like basically the significance of the two. 764 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,040 So the paper prompts, I guess, would have a lot more value 765 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,040 because they were actually included, included in the 766 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,840 scientific paper that was then, you know, reviewed by many 767 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,200 scientists around the world. The process prompts were just 768 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,680 like ones that were created a little bit afterwards or weren't 769 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,520 selected for that scientific paper. 770 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,000 So that's why I collected a full set of paper and then I also got 771 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,480 a full set of process. And, and I don't know many 772 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,440 people know this, but Alejandro from Fellowship was actually the 773 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,400 one who curated my process prompt set. 774 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,720 So very grateful for Alejandro and the folks over at Fellowship 775 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,360 as well. They've done an incredible job. 776 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,200 So yeah, you can see it and it's one of my, you know, artwork 777 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,800 there. I've got a big mix of generative 778 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040 art and and AI art as well. But you know, coming back to 779 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,440 you, Tyler, you know, it, it is in the most aesthetically 780 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960 pleasing, but it does fulfill my other requirement of being 781 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,440 historical, you know, being the first ever text to image 782 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,360 processor it for me. It's like it's so historical 783 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,480 that it's something that you can't look past. 784 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,040 I would still put one on the wall because purely like that 785 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,800 would be just such a great talking point, right? 786 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,960 Like a lot of people are going to look at that, be like, what 787 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,640 is that pixelated crap? And then I can then at least, 788 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480 you know, open that dialogue and that conversation and, you know, 789 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,640 talk to them about AIR, which is what I love to do. 790 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520 So, you know, it's it's almost like a trap on the wall. 791 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,960 You know, you're you're you're begging someone to ask about it. 792 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160 And then you can actually finally like dive into it. 793 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,280 So, you know, like, obviously, you know, that's got the 794 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,200 historical, you know, significance of it. 795 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,400 And then if you're looking for something that I think is also, 796 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,720 you know, a great buy and I. I've been very vocal about this, 797 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,280 again, not financial advice, but I've been very vocal about this 798 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,760 on my ex account and that is Winds of Yawanawa. 799 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,080 I, I think if you're looking for something that's aesthetics, 800 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,640 that is definitely one of the, the more prettier collections 801 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,720 out there. And obviously it really has, you 802 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,280 know, refix signature touch all over it. 803 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,440 It's a great 'cause it's, you know, it's helping, you know, 804 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,520 the Yawanawa people and it, it just has like a great, like, you 805 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,920 know, a great story behind it as well. 806 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,520 It's great narratives and it's just stunning. 807 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,120 I'd love to have that, you know, on multiple screens around my 808 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,800 home. Yeah, beautiful. 809 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,480 Like on a on a huge screen that would be, you know, very 810 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440 impressive. It feels like, you know, we love 811 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,880 to draw analogies and comparisons. 812 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,760 It feels like the finenza of AI art right now. 813 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,040 I'd I'd say is kind of how I would. 814 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,920 That that's how I've been comparing it. 815 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680 You know, they've got the same, you know, supply, you know, 816 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,400 there's 1000 of each. You know, like I think both 817 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,080 Tyler Hobbs and Rafik and Adele, they are both very accomplished 818 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,400 artists. You know, I would say Rafik with 819 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,960 what he has announced recently and you know, obviously getting 820 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,360 into the mobile, he is very much up there is like, you know, one 821 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,080 of the greats when it comes to AI art. 822 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,880 And you know, they, I think they also cater to the same, you 823 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,840 know, collector base as well. You know, they're very 824 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,720 aesthetically pleasing. You know, it's, it's very, very 825 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,000 easy for someone who doesn't know a lot about art to like get 826 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,200 into. And also it's complex enough for 827 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,960 someone who does know about art to, to want to jump in as well. 828 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,600 So I think, you know, it has like a, a double whammy there. 829 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,720 And what else I love about them is that it really, you know, 830 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,120 makes use of the medium, right? So like, you know, when I 831 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,480 collect digital art, I wanted to be able to do something that 832 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,920 physical art can't do and vice versa, right? 833 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,680 Like I see them both being complementary to one another. 834 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,480 It's not digital or physical. It's why can't they be, you 835 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,680 know, you know, like you know, together, right? 836 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,200 Like cohibitual sort of way, right. 837 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,600 So like, I want to see, you know, digital screens with like 838 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,600 movements and animations to represent my digital art, but I 839 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,560 also want to have like a Picasso next to it. 840 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,480 Yeah. No, that, that certainly makes 841 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,680 sense. I can appreciate that, you know, 842 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,200 collecting style. I'm curious, are there any, we 843 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:28,160 went down like the, the AI art rabbit hole a bit here. 844 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,160 Are there any other trends that they're jumping out to you in 845 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,560 this, in the digital art space right now? 846 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,520 I think an interesting tweet that kind of caught my attention 847 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,360 yesterday. Sergio was talking about the 848 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,120 launch of shape and, and he was comparing the number of 849 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,360 followers they have effectively to the number of collectors we 850 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,000 have left in the digital art sector. 851 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,560 And he said they've they've got 3000 followers. 852 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,920 It feels like we've got about 3000 people left, which kind of 853 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,440 spun up a little bit of a conversation in his replies, 854 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,880 which he put out about 1010 X less than what we had at peak in 855 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160 2021. Curious if you have a read on 856 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,360 that or any other just kind of broader trends kind of state of 857 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,120 the nation for for digital art that are kind of top of mind to 858 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,720 you? Digital art as a whole or more 859 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,880 AI art? Maybe as a whole, so branching 860 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,560 outside of a? Yeah, look like I, I think it is 861 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640 still very niche. We're still very early. 862 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,200 I know you know, a couple of years ago people hated hearing 863 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,120 that, but it's true. When you look at the numbers, 864 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,440 when you look at the volume, you know, when you look at the 865 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,320 liquidity, you know, like this hasn't broken into mainstream 866 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,640 adoption at all. You know, obviously we are 867 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,520 seeing a few people double and, you know, they are buying a 868 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,320 little bit of digital art on the side just in case. 869 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,520 But we're very far from, you know, this becoming more 870 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,280 mainstream. And I, you know, I do ponder 871 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,360 this quite frequently. And I do think, you know, a big 872 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,800 part of that is because the technology is just not there 873 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,480 yet. I think a lot of people still 874 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,960 struggle with screens, being able to put the arts up on the 875 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,160 screens. You know, even looking at, you 876 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,680 know, these AR glasses that, you know, Mehta just announced, you 877 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,960 know, they're still in their infancy. 878 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,040 You know, it's still only 2024. You know, like maybe in three to 879 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120 five years time, those meta glasses are going to be a lot 880 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,600 more sleek. They're going to be a lot more 881 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,120 powerful. Everything is going to be 882 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,320 overlaid with AR. You know, your, your social 883 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,600 media will basically be like you just looking at a person and you 884 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,080 get to see like their username, their recent posts and their 885 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,000 phone number or whatever that person is allowing you to see. 886 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000 So, you know, we're about to, you know, step into this, you 887 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,880 know, wonderful new world of like technology that I think we 888 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,920 don't even understand is what's possible yet. 889 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,560 And, you know, we can already see the, the, the small like 890 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,000 footprints of that now. But I think it's really going to 891 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,600 blow our mind. You know, the next, like, I'd 892 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,160 say like 5 to 10 years, it's going to look very different to 893 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,120 what it is today. And when it is a lot more, you 894 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,680 know, adopted and more acceptable to be wearing these, 895 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,840 you know, these digital AR glasses, that's probably when 896 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,960 we're going to start seeing people, you know, switch their 897 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,840 phones out for glasses. Everything's going to be in AR 898 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,320 and we're going to start seeing digital art everywhere, you 899 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,560 know, and that is probably when we see that mainstream adoption 900 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,840 pour in. Yeah, I love, I love how you I 901 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,320 just love the way Danny talks about like AR general of art and 902 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,400 then sees them from like a market cap standpoint etcetera. 903 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,680 So ties back is that is that how you thought about it when you 904 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,320 first bought the glyphs, the punks and everything? 905 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,120 Because obviously like for those who don't know, like Danny was 906 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,640 early, obviously the crypto punks, we've had some iconic 907 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,360 sales like at the ape hoodie, which I don't forget was like 908 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,760 what 4000 ETH or something. And you know, a bunch of other 909 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,880 ones. And you were already to the 910 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,280 Autoglyphs, which we're selling at Solder Bees, which are 911 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,720 probably collectively what going to get a few $1,000,000. 912 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,600 But you know, you've, I think people can know how much you pay 913 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,880 for them, right? Because it's on chain. 914 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,160 Yeah it's it's all on chain. I paid 150,000 for 10. 915 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,160 For a full set. So yeah, 150 K for a full set of 916 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,400 glyphs. And I think obviously we're way 917 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,240 beyond the, the, the 10X here. We're we're like what, 5020 X 918 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,440 5070 X territory? Yeah. 919 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,040 Well, I if you just look at earlier this year at full sets 920 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,760 off of 15,000,000, so 150,000 to 15,000,000, what is that 100? 921 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,880 XI need one of those. Why? 922 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,640 Why didn't you call me back in 2020? 923 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520 Tell me this. Like we only met in 2021, I 924 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,360 know. But still we needed. 925 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,880 To like time travel or something. 926 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,920 God damn it, maybe you're a time traveler. 927 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,360 I was like, you're the time traveler for real. 928 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,240 It's like you and Baron Trump. You know this, this is the bare 929 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,280 glyphs we're talking about yesterday, Tyler, because I 930 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,520 found, I finally found it. We were looking at it on the 931 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,880 show yesterday. We're looking for it everywhere, 932 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,920 Danny, But you moved all your assets so I couldn't. 933 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,760 Have I moved them around? Yeah, good, good. 934 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,760 That's probably, that's probably good. 935 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,160 So what's special about this glyph? 936 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,160 Because Tyler and I were talking about it yesterday. 937 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,120 So this glyph would be one that I potentially would hold 938 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,080 forever. It's like my 7 trade crypto 939 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,080 punk. I, it's funny, actually, I had a 940 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,040 phone call a few months ago about my autoglyphs and the 941 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,280 person you know, who's is very much in the both, you know, 942 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,240 digital and physical art world. They, they said the exact same 943 00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,440 thing. They said this is the seven 944 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,120 trade of the Autoglyphs. And the reason being is because 945 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,040 that is the only Autoglyph that actually looks like anything at 946 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,920 all. So it looks like a teddy bear 947 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,400 basically. And there's no other Autoglyph 948 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,680 that looks or vastly even like resembles anything at all. 949 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,640 So out of all of the, you know, there we go. 950 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,920 You can see the collection there. 951 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,080 You know, they, they all look like QR codes to the unassuming, 952 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,440 right? So, yeah, that's what's special 953 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,200 about this one. You know, I can basically say 954 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,000 it's the first ever Unchained generative bear, which I think 955 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,720 is also a, you know, a great narrative to say as well. 956 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,880 But that's why I love this one. It says symbol 9. 957 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,400 So it's very rare. There's only 11 of them in the 958 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,800 entire collection, so not only is it a rare symbol, but it 959 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,560 also, you know, resembles a teddy bear. 960 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,520 So yeah, I think this might be one of my forever holds. 961 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,120 There's a few NFTS in my collection that I probably would 962 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,760 never sell, and this is definitely one of them. 963 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,120 Wow, that is sick. Yeah, it is a bear. 964 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,960 I mean, we don't like bears, but I guess we like this bear. 965 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,840 This doesn't come out for after 2025. 966 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960 Yeah, exactly. Just quickly, I have one more 967 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,440 question for you. Then we'll get to the giveaways. 968 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,400 Raffle bots dot XYZ. Raffle bots dot XYZ. 969 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,720 If you're listening right now, you still have a chance to win 970 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,920 either a merch hoodie #53 minted by Danny himself that will send 971 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,640 that he'll send to you after the show, or a spin to potentially 972 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,160 win a crypto punk. Danny, what's your, what's your 973 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,920 last question? More market related. 974 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,080 How do you feel about the market right now? 975 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,000 Because the smart people were talking about 24 as a pump and 976 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000 stuff, but the smartest people I know and people have been here 977 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,160 for multiple cycles. Like you keep timing 2526 and 978 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,320 that's something you always repeat. 979 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,560 Like you always talk about 2025 specifically. 980 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,920 So how do you feel about the market in general right now and 981 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,360 where we're headed? Given that, what is this your 982 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,960 4th cycle? I believe so, yeah. 983 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,160 It's, it's tracking. Exactly. 984 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,240 You know how I thought it was going to track. 985 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,560 You know, I've been now in crypto since the beginning of 986 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,480 2013. So I I experienced, you know, 987 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,400 the 2013 cycle, the 2017 cycle, the 2021 cycle and soon to be 988 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,280 the 2025 cycle. And what someone you know in the 989 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,640 audience will recognize there is that the bull market seems to 990 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,040 happen every four years and it's always on an odd year, right. 991 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,680 So that is why I'm still very bullish on 2025. 992 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,320 I think nothing has changed. If anything, I think all of 993 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,760 these like ETF, you know, listings have been very 994 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,800 beneficial to the market. I don't know what the bear 995 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,080 market will look like when people start to, you know, 996 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,120 withdraw all of their coins. It's probably going to get 997 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,760 pretty brutal. But yeah, like, I, I am very 998 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,880 much just preparing. I'm allocating in a way where I 999 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,880 do believe that 2025 is going to be the next Raging Bull. 1000 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440 And not only just in coins, but NFTS as well. 1001 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,400 I know that's like a, a dirty word for some, but you know, 1002 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,640 it's a equal spread across coins, you know, including like 1003 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520 AI coins, gaming. A lot of people know that I'm 1004 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,080 into like, you know, Zai and pirate and portal. 1005 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,920 And then, you know, also, you know, a lot of NFTS that you 1006 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,240 can, you know, check on my open seas. 1007 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,440 So you know, like I, I'm unwavered. 1008 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,960 I I think this is like what you typically see, you know, between 1009 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,360 cycles. I remember even before, I think 1010 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,040 it was 2021, I think it was when we saw like the D5 cycle and 1011 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,440 like, you know, D5 happened I think the year beforehand. 1012 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,800 And you know, even before the 2013 cycle, I think it was like 1013 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,680 colored coins or country coins or something like that. 1014 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,920 It was like China coin and red coin and blue coin. 1015 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,160 So I, I'm kind of seeing the meme coins as like the precipice 1016 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,680 before the big 2025 surge as well. 1017 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,080 Like it just seems to always be that way. 1018 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,000 They have like a a very certain category will explode and then 1019 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,680 you see the the big, you know, everyone's going up in, you 1020 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,760 know, the following year. I love that see that how's that 1021 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,600 source some hopium for y'all listening to the show today. 1022 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,040 You know that's that's I just go based off what Danny tells you. 1023 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,760 I spent the summer with him. He was like 252525. 1024 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,160 That's all he kept saying, 2025. More financial advice as well. 1025 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,880 Not not financial advice, interesting thing, but it's 1026 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000 interesting to hear because like Mandel, for example, is an 1027 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,560 incredible trader, one of the best. 1028 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,560 I know I'd say top five right now on CT, but like you were 1029 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,800 there for multiple cycles like you've done it's he's done 2 1030 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,480 cycles in this market. His second. 1031 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,000 You've done 3 already in this, your 4th going into this one, 1032 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,040 which is pretty fucking crazy. Not every day talk to four 1033 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,520 cyclers. So it's good to know. 1034 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,920 So gaming obviously your AI are your generative art and the way 1035 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,320 you're, you're positioning yourself, your brand seat phrase 1036 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,520 with clearly you're bullish on fashion art moving forward with 1037 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:29,800 this.