1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:09,320 Mendel's got his head off. I know why. yo-yo yo, what up, 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,880 what up? Good morning. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:18,920 Good the headphones up 'cause last night he texted. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,720 Yesterday morning he texted me like, dude, I can't do this, 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,920 it's too loud. And I didn't realize my knob was 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,720 up and I was screaming on the his ears like I can fuck it. 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Did Kelly there? It's been a prominent thing, I 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,680 think from now on I don't trust it. 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,160 I don't trust it. Whoa, whoa, hold on. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,920 Actually, oh, that was you. Whoa, no, it's because of the 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,720 because this went close to that. There you go. 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,720 I won't scream. OK. yo-yo, yo, What up? 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,240 What up? Good morning. 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Good morning. That's what. 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,320 It was like yesterday. Friday No, I didn't have my knob 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,599 up two notches above and I screamed really loud so I 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,600 obliterated your ears. I apologize for that. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,760 But anyways, Friday is it better now? 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:19,520 March 15th 202444444 Look at that. 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,120 I got my coats in the house. I was Mando. 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,760 How you guys doing this morning? Happy Friday. 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,640 Happy Friday, man. Doing great. 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,920 How are you? I'm doing fantastic. 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,760 I'm doing very well this morning actually. 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Thank you for asking. Doing very well, Ovi. 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,200 How you doing? Yeah, I'm good. 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,760 Good. The same old really. 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,000 You love that sweater, huh? It's honestly, it's it's just 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,360 it's a really good hoodie. I don't really wear hoodies. 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,400 I can't wait for mine. And usually when people send, 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,160 you send you stuff. I'm like. 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Yeah, and. Whatever. 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 You don't pick it, so it's never usually something that you like, 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,240 and this is not something I would usually wear, but it's 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,040 just so comfy. I love that. 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,120 You know, I saw, I saw bad soup. I saw Danny. 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,720 A lot of people like, I guess a lot of people caught him. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,840 I'm waiting for mine. I'm waiting for mine. 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,400 You know, I I heard through through, through Bernie that 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,960 we're actually going to be partnering with him at some 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,520 point on the show. So yeah, I'm wearing for my I'm 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,200 wearing for my sweater. I'm wearing for my sweater. 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,800 It's it's gonna be look good in the spring too. 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Spring collars and everything. It's a lot of fun. 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Anyways, Anyways, big day today on the show ladies and 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,080 gentlemen, There's a lot happening today. 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,040 As usual. We're gonna be giving also a lot 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 away as the boys will be doing the the market report. 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,560 I will go fix our little roll bit Loot boxes. 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,240 We are doing 2 loot boxes at the end of this of Hold on one 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,880 second Sims. Is this working. 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,600 Oh sorry I thought you sent us something else my bad. 54 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:47,320 We're we're we're good we're good we're good. 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,480 So anyways we have we're going to be doing two rule bit loot 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,640 box at the end of the show shout out to our partners at rule bit 57 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,920 we're going to be doing we're going to get Nate. 58 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,800 Alex come talk about you know just Nate. 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Alex come kick kick kick it with us because we love Nate. 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,040 But also shout out to him he gave three allow this spots to 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,680 rec guy. Three allow this spots to rug 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,040 radio. So those were handled I think by 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Bernie but he agreed to come and give one other natives NFT allow 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,880 this part on this show today. So we're going to be giving that 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,440 as well. I know it's highly anticipated. 66 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,720 You absolutely love to see it and as usual as usual as usual 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,760 we will be going through market report etcetera, etcetera 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:29,080 etcetera as we keep it going. And then you know as usual we're 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,400 live on video on audio etcetera and boys as of today, I I know, 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,120 I know Sims is is working on it right now but I'm pretty sure 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,560 that we are going to be streaming live on violence live 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,960 now the show so, so welcome and shout out to all of the new 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,480 listener and watchers, viewers of FOMO, our R rock radio, you 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,640 know looks like we're about to you know looks like the numbers 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,960 are are are going to be 10X ING you know looks like we're about 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,880 to really kick it off here. So not just our coins, we're 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,880 also our wonderful morning show that we that we that we host 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,480 every single morning Monday to Friday, 10:30 AM Eastern 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,920 Standard Time that is also recorded and reposted across all 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,800 platforms. I do have to remind them of that 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,600 because we're probably getting a bunch of new people. 82 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,640 So it's super cool to see you love it, love the growth. 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Shout out to the team. It's freaking awesome, boys. 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,360 We're, we're, we're, we're we're getting bigger. 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,960 I don't like that. You know, we're, you know, the 86 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,880 morning show's starting to become quite the thing. 87 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,120 You know, it's almost like it's almost like we like hosted 600 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 of these to to get to this point. 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,640 I don't even know at this point I it surely it's closer to 700 90 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,560 and even like I keep saying 600 but we're this episode 80 of 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,160 foam water so there's always been hundreds of episodes of the 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,800 other ones before that. But anyways, anyways, Knee 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,720 weighs Without further ado, why don't we get right into it? 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,920 I feel like there's a lot to talk about on the market side, 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,840 Mando. Between the the the crash of all 96 00:04:56,840 --> 00:05:00,000 our all the coins yesterday, Solana bouncing back pretty 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,200 well. Boom, going to the fucking moon 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,840 and everything going on. Let's kick it to you. 99 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:17,120 Can you dig it? GMGM everyone. 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,560 So we had a a bit of a sell off actually for the first time in 101 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,280 in a while and this wasn't just a Wick down and immediate 102 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:28,640 retrace like we had a bit of a sell off yesterday just before 103 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,960 the show and then we kind of retraced back and then bit more 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,240 of a sustained sell off as the day went on. 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,080 So Bitcoin. Kind of. 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,280 When I woke up, so everyone was asleep. 107 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:47,080 Yeah, it went down to a round 6566 K It was. 108 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,960 In terms of Wix and this. This did feel slightly different 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,040 because it like this has been sustained. 110 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,120 Like it wasn't just oh liquidation's cleared out this 111 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,480 was it felt like AT WAP selling out of a position yesterday 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,880 evening and then went into kind of sustained this morning. 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,240 So people are definitely a bit more wary about this sell off 114 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,880 than some of the others. This didn't just feel like a 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,760 flushing of of of excess risk taking this felt like right just 116 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,600 be a bit aware because you've moved quite a lot and if 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,760 somebody's or if multiple people are starting to sell decent 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,880 chunks then you got to be you got to be on your toes a bit 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,760 more. So definitely, definitely a bit 120 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,520 more cautious today. I think it probably means that 121 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:41,000 you know the 100K by end of Q1 seems unlikely but it does it 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,000 it, it feels like we could be in for a bit of a range bound 123 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,080 trading session here. So whether that's between 60 and 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,600 70 or I don't know low 60s and low 70s something like that. 125 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,600 I I think we could be, we could be here for a little bit. 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,040 Now what caused it, it's a little bit difficult to say. 127 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,360 Like yesterday there was that slightly hot inflation print 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,400 that came out of the US, which meant that it basically means 129 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,360 that interest rates are it's. It's slightly less likely that 130 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,200 the Fed will cut interest rates as strong as they were meant to, 131 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,280 but the rest of the markets didn't really move that much. 132 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,440 So like stocks didn't really move that much lower, interest 133 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,640 rates moved slightly higher, but things like gold didn't really 134 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,880 move. So I think it was more just a 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,760 that was one thing that set off maybe 1 seller and then it felt 136 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,880 felt more slows like the way that Bitcoin was getting sold 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,240 yesterday particularly in the evening really did feel like 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,640 somebody was just tee whopping out of a very big position. 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,640 We kind of bounced slightly and then we went back and bits and 140 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,480 touched the lows again. So there were decent amount of 141 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,560 liquidations 600 million roughly. 142 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,680 To To put it in perspective when when we had that big Wick 10 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,480 days ago, there was over a billion of of liquidation. 144 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,920 So it was smaller, we weren't, we weren't the the market wasn't 145 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,720 taking as excessive risks as it was a week ago and funding and 146 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,080 open interests have both dropped off pretty significantly since 147 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,960 then. So it's it's a cleaner market 148 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,800 right now. I don't. 149 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,360 I think the people have been rewarded by just buying dips in 150 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,520 this market and I think that's something to be a bit more 151 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,800 cautious of this time. That's what I would say like 152 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,720 just the way that it's sold off hasn't been like if you if you 153 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,120 look back even over the last like two months, every single 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,039 time we sold off was basically in a day and then we immediately 155 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:40,679 bounced. And this, this, this wasn't 156 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,880 really like that. Just somebody who who who looks 157 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,640 at the market every single day. This felt like actual selling 158 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,280 rather than just oh right, somebody's just tried to take it 159 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,640 over leverage and then buy it back. 160 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,760 So I'm definitely more cautious on where like that. 161 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,680 We're not just going to randomly do a 2X here. 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,120 Feels like people will now trade between those. 163 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,640 There's still obviously money to be made in those sort of 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,760 environments and often when Bitcoin gets in those 165 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,760 environments, you can sometimes have like an altcoin season. 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,200 As soon as Bitcoin starts to range, you can sometimes get an 167 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,440 altcoin season. So but at the same time we can 168 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,520 also a lot of these altcoins are up a lot because it's one of the 169 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,800 mean coins, so they could also get smashed. 170 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,360 So just be a bit more aware, I don't think you should be 171 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,000 dalling it to 11 on the risk metrics even now like we haven't 172 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,200 just immediately bounced back to all time highs, right. 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,280 We're kind of just hanging out at 68 K and I think we could 174 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,640 very easily go back lower again even today. 175 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,760 So just be aware this doesn't feel like the other dips, this 176 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,880 feels, this feels slightly, there's slightly more to it than 177 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,920 the other ones. What we did see was that Solano 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,840 needs to go. Absolutely. 179 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,040 It's an all time high in terms of market cap. 180 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,960 Obviously, there's been some, as we spoke about on this show, 181 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,360 like there's been some emissions since the last time. 182 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,400 It's all, it all sounds like that that block that was from 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,120 FDX is seemingly very likely to have cleared or the financing's 184 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,840 basically been done. So we kind of said that that 185 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,520 would happen. The moment that that that got 186 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,800 cleared, it would probably explode higher and we saw that 187 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,680 kind of happen and then but this is something that it's not like 188 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:18,240 it's happened in a vacuum. Obviously the vast majority of 189 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,880 activity has been happening on Solana over the last at least on 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,880 the coin side over the last few months and this kind of felt 191 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,600 like a bit of a coiled spring before that. 192 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,360 So I think there there is, there is real, there's a real reason 193 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,840 why it's kind of hitting all time highs. 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,600 This isn't just some random pump like this is this is definitely 195 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,480 the adoption period for Solana. A lot of people saying like you 196 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,320 know ETH had the adoption curve last, last cycle. 197 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,000 This feels like a lot of people are using it. 198 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,880 So it's it's definitely, it's definitely feels different than 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,600 some of the old coins. It's really cementing itself. 200 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,240 It's like a major now I think which is which is interesting to 201 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,720 see And then in terms of what people are making money on, I 202 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,000 think it's there's only really one thing on everyone's lips 203 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,680 which is this own thing. I I have never seen anything 204 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:08,480 like this like this. The only time that this reminds 205 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,360 me of something is Pepe. But to be clear like Pepe took a 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,880 long time to even get to 100 million. 207 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Like you could have seen Pepe. Like Pepe spent some time at 208 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,080 10:20 30-50 then back to 20 then up to 100 and then then it 209 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,200 started to pick up pace. This Dark Farms thing happened 210 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:31,480 in a day, has hit $500 million market cap in a day. 211 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,600 So you're seeing crazy stories across the timeline because 212 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,840 obviously this, this really did emerge kind of from the NFT 213 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,000 community because Dark Farms is is well known in the NFT 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,520 community and and it maybe isn't as known in broader crypto. 215 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:52,680 So a lot of big wins in in the in the NFT space and you know I 216 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:55,800 sold mine way too early way way, way, way, way too early. 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,880 When I hit 60, I sold it and it's done another basically done 218 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,480 another 10X since then mainly on the back of I think it's 219 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,240 probably got a market maker behind me, but I can't really 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,480 tell and it's definitely got some listings, some very, very 221 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,880 big listings behind it at the moment. 222 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,320 So you know with the volumes that it's doing to put it in 223 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,200 perspective like let's just let's bring up like a deck 224 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Screener right now like if we. Have that open. 225 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Let me tell you that. There you go. 226 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,560 Boom. So what volume is it doing 300? 227 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,520 And $91 million volume. Yeah. 228 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,120 And that's just on one pair, right? 229 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,080 That's just the bone soul pair. So like, I wonder if Coin Gecko 230 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,400 has got like the. The volume across I'm sure. 231 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Let me see let me see here, Matt I I have to say this is insane. 232 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Like this is this is insane. I've never seen anything like 233 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,160 this. This is going to be one of my 234 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,600 best trades I've ever, ever, so it's done. 500 million of volume 235 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,200 in spot over the last 24 hours like that is wild. 236 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,640 That is. Huge. 237 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,040 That's fucking crazy. Like if I was to bring up the 238 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,960 top coins across, that probably beats most major mean points. 239 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Well, it is. No, it's the Senate. 240 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,480 Look at this post. It was ranked twenty. 241 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,440 It was this morning at 8:00 AM. It was ranked 26th by 20 on 24 242 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,920 hour volume in crypto. Yeah, that's that is absolutely 243 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,000 insane. Like how do you see by volume 244 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,640 my, my and and people are asking like what the hell has happened 245 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,920 here? Because this is not, this is not 246 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 regular, you know, like artist launches mean time doesn't just 247 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,880 automatically go to 500 million. You've had parallels in the 248 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,240 past, like Turbo had a big run if you remember, and that kind 249 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,080 of came from the IT community and went up to 300 million. 250 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,400 But that again, that took a while. 251 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,280 This has gone to 500 million in a day and got major listings 252 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,160 almost within an hour. The first ones was like 6 hours 253 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,960 old, so really, really crazy. And now it's just got there. 254 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,360 It feels like it could. I mean it got. 255 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Right like it got crypto com this morning which is not major 256 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,000 major but it's still good. It got by bit web three last 257 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,720 night posted about it that it was going to go Live Today. 258 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,040 That's when I went like last night I saw by bit tweet at like 259 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,320 midnight. Like this is going to be 260 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,680 ridiculous because by bit OK Q coin like you get into this 261 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:13,640 territory then you know the the usual hopefully the western ones 262 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,000 like the krakens and the coinbases could catch on down 263 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,720 the line but like Gemini as well. 264 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,920 But like dude like it got by bit and it got KU coin bro. 265 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Kucoin went live or is going live and Coogan is usually like 266 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,920 a pretty big one too, right? If I'm not mistaken, they don't 267 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,480 just list and so are we getting Binance? 268 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Well, I mean this is our first show. 269 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,160 There is like 1000 plus people watching us live on Binance 270 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,840 right now. Shout out to you guys but like 271 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,800 are we are we going to go are you guys going to listen to what 272 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,920 are we like this is crazy like we got the the we got the the B 273 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,800 poll went BOM ETF. Of course Sims is putting that 274 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,840 on the screen. Let me get you guys this 275 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,920 information here. So gate went right away but 276 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,520 that's you know whatever then Kucoin 6 hours ago posted it 277 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,880 goes oh it's not even live yet it goes like a four. 278 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,520 What's 14 UTC? Two PM, 2:00 PM. 279 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Your time, right? So it went. 280 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Live. Yeah. 281 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,760 My time, Yeah. So it was, Yeah. 282 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,360 It was less than an hour ago. What do we think boys like? 283 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 What's like? Did you guys the guy who sent 284 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:24,960 420.69 sold to this is up to like nearly like 8-9 like 7 to 285 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,960 $9 million? Like, surely this is going to be 286 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 one of the most insane returns ever seen. 287 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,080 Right. Yeah. 288 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,520 I don't even want to know what my bag would be worth if I kept 289 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:32,960 it. I just. 290 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,000 I just like. How much is that originally? 291 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 A few 1000. OK, let's not look into that 292 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,160 then. Yeah, yeah. 293 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,280 It's not. Yeah, I mean. 294 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,120 It's OK, yeah. Yeah. 295 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,440 You know you're you're cooking everywhere. 296 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:52,000 But it's this is I mean. Well, yeah, I mean, that's 297 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,680 that's classic bull market shit, right? 298 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Like everyone, you can just crush on this stuff. 299 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,440 Is that is. Well let's let's, let's, let's, 300 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,840 let's pause on this for a second right. 301 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Like this is the the thing happening right now, the most 302 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,280 major thing happening all crypto at the moment. 303 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Are we going to get like this like meta again like it's 304 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,080 already starting all the scammers are out there, you know 305 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,720 putting presale addresses you know and saying send this to 306 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,960 that it could be dangerous. It's it's both great. 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,720 It's dangerous, right? So if someone did an AFD 308 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,560 collection, are they a scammer or not a scammer? 309 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Pardon. I'm, I'm just saying like, it's 310 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,160 an artist who made a coin, right? 311 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,640 I think a bunch of artists here who might be like, oh, I should 312 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,400 I should launch a coin is the last cycle. 313 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,120 They did NFTS, right? They did. 314 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,280 They joined NFT collection. If they now launch a coin, is 315 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,920 that somehow worse? Is that something miss scammer 316 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,400 you think? Like I just think. 317 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,520 What I mentioned that what I meant by that man, there's 318 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 mostly like, like there's all the scammers are going to come 319 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,560 out of the weeds for that one. That's what I meant. 320 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,480 I think we're all like questioning ourselves slightly 321 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,240 here though, right? Because it's like why is this 322 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 different morally than like what other people have done in the 323 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,360 past with pre sales? Like why does this feel better? 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,079 And like, it is weird how it's just like a token standard 325 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,760 basically changes our view of this. 326 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Like this is just an artist who basically did a pre sale and if 327 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,640 that was done by the wrong person we'd be like Oh my God 328 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,440 that's so terrible. But this has been done by him 329 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,000 and I I do wonder like if this cycle will start to see like 330 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,920 people now experiment with shit coins. 331 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,119 Like obviously shit coins are most of them go to zero as do 332 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,640 most NFTS. But there's no there's no like 333 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,360 artistic premise. I guess it's he is pumping out 334 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:38,920 like memes and stuff but I don't know it's like it's just weird. 335 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,320 I I feel I see a lot of people having like a moral quandary 336 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,760 with this. I think I. 337 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,920 Think it's because what? Do you think of it? 338 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,880 You're an artist. Are you going to drop drop a 339 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,800 Artist token? Please let me know if you do. 340 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,640 Exactly. Everyone wants. 341 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,400 Everyone wants everyone to I. I think you have what you have 342 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,720 to understand is the difference between selling NFTS and doing a 343 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,400 a coin is in the regulatory landscape. 344 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,280 NFTS so far not securities, they they're just like non fungible 345 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,480 and they're pieces of art whatever they are. 346 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,280 But tokens can definitely be securities. 347 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,120 And so when people do this pre sales type stuff and if you you 348 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,160 know if you don't promise anything on the back of it then 349 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,320 it's fine. It's kind of just it probably 350 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,320 maybe is fine, it's like send these to ether's wallet and 351 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,720 we'll give you a token. But, you know, as soon as they 352 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,040 start constituting things like, oh, we're going to go out there 353 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,960 and build a deck, so we're going to. 354 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Promise things. That's where it becomes. 355 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Yeah, but even if you don't promise, we're just all saying 356 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,120 that, right? Like, we just don't really know. 357 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,040 It's all just up to the really just really up to the SEC. 358 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,920 Like what they, well they decide and and go ahead and do because 359 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,120 you're still, even though you're not promising anything, you are 360 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,440 you are basically promising you will return to them a token off 361 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,120 the back of it, right. So you are getting something 362 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:52,760 that is then a a fungible token is like a a tradable speculative 363 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,720 instrument which is very different to like buying an NFT 364 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,920 which is a piece of art. So I think there has to be some, 365 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,840 you know, a little bit of caution on that, especially for 366 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,000 US based people. And US based artist Please Don't 367 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 just think see Dark Farms and think you're going to you should 368 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,760 do that right away. There's a you're right though 369 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,400 about the the standard you guys right by the center. 370 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,280 Because I remember when Gary Gensler tried to come after the 371 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Blaze Cats. Right The Stone Cats. 372 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Blaze Cats forgot Stone Cats. Blaze cats, yeah. 373 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Yeah, it was one of those. And then Hester Pierce or go or 374 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,480 go. Sorry. 375 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,680 Hester Pierce for Chair of the SEC but but you know she 376 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,840 actually wrote an article saying that she disagrees with the SEC 377 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,920 stand on NFTS constituting securities in that we should not 378 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,240 go down that route. So you do make a really good 379 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,320 point when it comes to like the token standard being different 380 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,840 between launching a 721 and the RC20. 381 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Because there is difference. Maybe not. 382 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Everywhere from a legal standpoint, I think people are 383 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,160 questioning even from like an ethical standpoint like like I 384 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,880 just it's such a weird I don't even know what my my answer is 385 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,800 on this. But it is so weird how people's 386 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,280 views of different tokens are like so are so. 387 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,920 I think the views are changing right? 388 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,000 Like you're. Speaking about this even 389 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,360 internally, right, like. Why? 390 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Why? Why? 391 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Is like suddenly shit coin devs treated like pariahs versus 392 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,640 others I think. Obviously there is a lot more, 393 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:26,520 there is more scamming maybe in in in space, like everyone 394 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,200 everywhere. There's grifting everywhere like 395 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,240 people. But if top artists decide to 396 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,720 start launching their own coins, which may be backed by their 397 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,360 art, I don't know, like maybe we do see a bit more of that this 398 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:40,160 cycle. And I think we've got to work 399 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,840 out like, is that ethically wrong or not? 400 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,680 Because I think a lot of artists are going to think about. 401 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Doing something let me ask you something, is flooring protocol 402 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,800 and wasabi and all these protocols are turning your your 403 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,120 NFTS into tokens morally wrong? The answer is no, right? 404 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,800 We've seen NFT collections become almost coins at this 405 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,960 stage, right? Like flooring protocol is 406 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,000 literally that. Like flooring protocol is taking 407 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,200 NFT collection and turning into a coin right? 408 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,640 Is that am I I think that's it right. 409 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,280 You like MU it was like MU byc MU Penguins MU this MU that 410 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:19,160 right. Like same thing like back if 411 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,000 it's backed by art like if it's it's I don't know there's I 412 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,960 think I think this is where like and what I like and and I what I 413 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,680 appreciate about you guys and I think I I'm I'm similar here is 414 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,320 like we're in a we're in a position in this market where 415 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,280 like the holier than thou like Oh yeah NFTS are good coins are 416 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,360 bad kind of attitude is like really does have does have a 417 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:40,400 place here I think you know what I mean Like I don't know it's 418 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,920 just it's a weird thing you're right like there's like this 419 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,000 moral question between people right now like hey shit like 420 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,600 we're seeing this I don't know what do you what how do you feel 421 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,640 about it over you I feel like you have like a take on this. 422 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,000 I love I. Personally like love the 423 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:02,240 financialization of art because for me that's like a you know 424 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:08,080 like two things that I enjoy intersecting but it's not for 425 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,160 everyone and for me it's less it's less truly about like the 426 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,040 morals or the ethics behind it. Like you know there's an 427 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,680 argument to say yes like is dark how different is dark Farms 428 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240 thing to bendot EAS thing But I think it's very different 429 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,720 because dark farms is has produced like amazing amazing 430 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,280 quality art and memes for a very long time and it's almost like 431 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,560 people are going to that pre sell because like they love what 432 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,960 he does. They're doing out of respect 433 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,520 right. And obviously there's there's no 434 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,960 speculation to it as well as Bendot EAS. 435 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,200 It's not like I don't think anyone in the world was really 436 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,040 like, Oh my God, I'm really respect Ben, dot, Ethan, 437 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,080 everything that he's done in crypto. 438 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,920 People were just going there to speculate or going there because 439 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,000 they're brainwashed. So I think there's even though 440 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,800 the act of what they're doing is is perhaps there's some 441 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,320 similarities, I do think the intentions behind it are very 442 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,440 different. And I do think the reason why 443 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480 people put the money in is also somewhat different. 444 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,200 I would agree, completely different, but somewhat 445 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,920 different. I think they're different. 446 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,880 Those two are different. But let's say another artist now 447 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,280 comes out and says, hey, I want to do this, is that bad? 448 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,720 Let's say is OK, so like, that's the question. 449 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 I think because I'm like, I don't really know what's going 450 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,800 on here. Like why if somebody else now 451 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,760 says, hey, I've seen what Dark Farms did, like, yeah, he's a 452 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,080 great artist. He's been around here for a long 453 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,760 time. It was smart, great timing to do 454 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,760 it. People obviously went in because 455 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,760 they like him, but also they wanted to have the speculation. 456 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,240 Like let's be honest, everyone who put in for that resale was 457 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,840 like this coin is going to do a fucking yeah, we hope this 458 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,080 sounds like. A Dark Farms. 459 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,920 I'm a huge fan of his and my PFPS Dark Farms, but mind you I 460 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,680 did not buy into a pre sell to support the art. 461 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Right, exactly. And if he'd done a piece of art, 462 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,240 yeah, he's not. Like his pieces of art were 463 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 selling. Like I think he was getting so. 464 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,440 He's selling. I know, but it wasn't like now, 465 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,840 and it's not like it was trained for hundreds of. 466 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,640 Millions. I know what you mean. 467 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,880 I know it's also really hard to come about dark from art, 468 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,760 because it's not like he he doesn't drop art a lot. 469 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,320 Like, it's really, really fun to come across as art. 470 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,440 I think we're basically going to see a load of artists trying to 471 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,120 do this now. I think we've got to work out, 472 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,160 we've got to work out if if they're going to be chastised 473 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,760 for basically just trying to do the same thing. 474 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,800 From me? No. 475 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,440 From the moral higher ups of crypto art? 476 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Maybe. I don't care. 477 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,360 You know what I mean? I don't think us three are in a 478 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,040 position like we. I don't think we we're the type 479 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,480 of people to like be that like that you. 480 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Know what I mean? I I definitely don't care. 481 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,000 I I don't understand the difference. 482 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,560 I will. Literally. 483 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240 And that's to reach their own. You can put the opinions on your 484 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,240 own thing here, Sam. So it's not opinions on rug 485 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,640 video. I will ape into every single 486 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,800 presale. I don't care. 487 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,480 Every I see a piece on the timeline, I I'm. 488 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,000 I just put one soul into everything. 489 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,440 I don't care. Because the Open Edition meta, 490 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,360 if you remember that, yeah. I don't care. 491 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,800 I don't care. Like it hits, it hits. 492 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,240 You know what I mean? I'd be more wary of, you know, 493 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,400 what you what's more wary of is let them do what they want to 494 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,880 do. If they want to do it, like who 495 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,200 are we to like, tell them not to do it right. 496 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,160 But like, be careful promoting something and then it goes to 497 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,200 zero and you're wrecked. So it's mostly on the person 498 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,080 where like the moral thing happens. 499 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Mando, I think is like yo like, as someone with the following 500 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,000 stuff, be careful what you're going to like, push out and 501 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320 stuff like that, right? I think it's just as dangerous, 502 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,240 if not more dangerous than the person putting it out, 503 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,080 especially if you're definitely wearing your base in your 504 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,240 jurisdiction. That's how I would see it. 505 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,880 Mando's typing his message. Right now, yeah, I would just, I 506 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,760 would be, I personally am a bit cautious on it. 100 percent, 507 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,480 100% anyways. So anyways, let's man guys, 508 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Solana's really going for it. Do we like this overhang on 509 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Seoul? Is we like the whole market went 510 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,080 like, ethis 3700, bitcoin's 68 five. 511 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,640 So I was like 183 right now boys this Are we going to get an 512 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,760 insane meme weekend right now on Solana? 513 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,560 Like what do we think like this is going to get? 514 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,400 We get really silly this weekend, I feel. 515 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,560 What does he guys think here? I think Solana's going to go to 516 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,080 200 very, very quick. I've been saying this for a 517 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,480 long, long time. Yeah. 518 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,520 All of us have been bullish soul for a long time, but yeah. 519 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,440 I I do not. It like really diverged from how 520 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,000 much people were using it recently. 521 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,000 You know, like an OSF really picked the timing on it, which 522 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,800 was once we found out that this FDX piece was going to sell, 523 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,800 like it just became very, very obvious that once that cleared, 524 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,080 it was going to, it was going to move. 525 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,360 But like right now, right now it really does have a strong 526 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,920 narrative for it and the strong narrative is that it's being 527 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,120 used. So like it is and a lot of 528 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,560 different different apps are now moving moving there. 529 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,240 So like it's use case is only increasing. 530 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,520 ETH clearly has bigger TVL over the over it's L2 ecosystem. 531 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,840 It has more users and and use cases but people like this being 532 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,880 on the one chain, right Like like you said like why would I 533 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,400 bridge, I can just be on Salon and that is just a really really 534 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,880 powerful narrative and it's just a very different narrative to 535 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,680 you. So like they can both pump for 536 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,560 different reasons and I think look, it just hit 100 billion 537 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,640 FTV. Oh wow. 538 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,080 So it Wow. So and eats up that 500 billion 539 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,000 bitcoins, obviously over a trillion. 540 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,200 I don't know. I really don't know where this 541 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,040 can go. But like if if I don't see in 542 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,840 the next year, maybe even the next couple, why people would 543 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720 stop using it? Like remember the next narrative 544 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,960 is here. You've got to think like why is 545 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,040 it being driven and it's been driven by use cases. 546 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600 And for me that's only increasing right now in Solana. 547 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,400 Like people are using it more and more and more, more adapts 548 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,480 are being built there and it's very competitive from a relative 549 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,360 standpoint. It's it's I think it's even more 550 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:46,800 costly now than some of the L twos. 551 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,880 But like people prefer it because it's less disjointed. 552 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,800 And then you have the main issue is obviously it went down again 553 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,320 right recently, but then now they have this, they have the 554 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,280 new client in Fire Dancer coming up and that's a very strong 555 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720 narrative again. So then you get to this idea 556 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,520 that if it if it can go through a period of not going down again 557 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,400 and they obviously get this new, they get Fire Dancer coming up 558 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,080 to make it much more difficult for that to happen. 559 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,440 You can get very bullish like you can get to Raoul Paul level 560 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,080 bullish on Solana if the number of users continue in the way 561 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,280 they are like I don't I don't see this meme coin season just 562 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:28,080 like stopping on Solana. It is it's wild and I think the 563 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,320 things behind it is in the very cheap transactions allow you to 564 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560 do a lot of different things. So the long term drivers of 565 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,760 Solana are now going to be users and I think that's only up only 566 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,200 yeah maybe next next. But we we we have another 567 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,160 narrative like maybe Monad comes out or maybe maybe if someone 568 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,040 like say gets to scale and gets a ton of users but it feels as 569 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,080 though they're going to stay on Solana right now. 570 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,200 And I think it's super they've got some of the the the easy on 571 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,120 boarding processes and and things like Jupiter and and you 572 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880 know and the phone and and all these different things. 573 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,280 I just feel like yeah I I just I think that that can continue and 574 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,800 I think it can continue to kind of push push ahead in terms of 575 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,680 users and and and volume. So I think it like it's had a 576 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,960 very big run. Do I think this is over, no like 577 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,320 not by a long long way. I think this this is a medium 578 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,600 term trend for Solana that that's just my my view on it. 579 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,000 I mean let's talk about and pravjun just you know, I have a 580 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,120 listener of the show shout out to them, tagged me on this and I 581 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,680 wanted to go there parallel yesterday made an huge 582 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,520 announcement and the token went to above $22.00 and to my 583 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,520 surprise you know they've been building on base, right. 584 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320 The game that they're launching the other game in the AI coin is 585 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,200 going to be on Solana. That is like that is a major, 586 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680 major, major announcement if you ask me. 587 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,160 Yeah, it makes sense. Huge. 588 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Obviously you need to go where the where the users are and 589 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,600 where the fees are cheapest. And a lot of gaming will choose 590 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,800 Solana because that's where it's happening. 591 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Like, I think anyone who's building anything right now is 592 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,840 thinking, should it go on Solana? 593 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160 Because that's like, if you're launching on, if you're 594 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,640 launching a coin on anything right now, you're thinking, 595 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,240 well, all the users are on Solana right now. 596 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,040 Should I, should I launch it there or should I launch it on 597 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,080 an L2 or should I launch it? But Solana's winning and I'll 598 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360 win a lot of these fights, like the ones that don't need funding 599 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,200 because a lot of the L2's Solana doesn't have the the grant 600 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,600 funding that a lot of these L2's are doing. 601 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,080 But the ones that don't really need that and maybe are funded 602 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,840 in a different way, like, yeah, a lot of them will just be we'll 603 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,600 choose to go where the users are right now. 604 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with that. 605 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880 I mean breaking news Parallel TCG will launch their AI powered 606 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200 game Parallel Colony on Solana. AI agents will be able to 607 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,840 autonomously transact on chain in this entirely new kind of 608 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520 survival game. This is like, this is like huge 609 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,480 news if you ask me, on the Solana side, because it's just 610 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,240 showing that people are actually going back now, not back because 611 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,560 it's like they left a lot to go back. 612 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,320 They they weren't on Soul to start with. 613 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920 But it's an Ethereum native company, right? 614 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,000 Parallel gaming, right. Started with the parallel cards 615 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,240 on 8th base. You know optimism now like 616 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,120 building the next. And by the way AI power dude. 617 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,160 Nothing says dreams more than that. 618 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,680 I love that dude. Dude. 619 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,440 Yeah. Hello AI powered game dude. 620 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Like it's like hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold 621 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,160 on. I got it for you. 622 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Hold on. To be a lot of people have been 623 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,440 had owned prime the token A. Lot, dude, homie. 624 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Like, I'm so happy for Sobi and these and like the people that 625 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,240 believed in like a lot of OG, like a lot of the OG like NFT 626 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760 crowd, like have been really fucking deep in in in parallel, 627 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,600 man. Like very, very deep. 628 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,880 So you love to see that. Which, by the way, makes me 629 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,960 think I've been talking to the founders to get them on Sims. 630 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160 I know you listen to this. Please remind me or Bernie, I'm 631 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360 such an asshole. But I gotta get them on. 632 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,480 I I've been. I'm dying to get them on like 633 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,080 there's such Chad builders. Honestly Like, to me, like I 634 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,000 think some of the best there's been in the space so far. 635 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640 So they're killing it. Anyways, So that was another 636 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,680 news as well that happened. I see Nate, Alex in the studio. 637 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,280 What's up, Nate and Hang Tanner? Just a reminder, pinned at the 638 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,960 top is a Twitter Spaces link for a new Binance Live listeners. 639 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,160 We are live on Twitter Spaces and that's where we do our 640 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 giveaways. So you have to retweet the 641 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Twitter space. OK? 642 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,480 And we're gonna pick three winners today. 643 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,520 Why? Because one is gonna get a 644 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,080 natives WTF, allow this spot and the other two are each gonna get 645 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,080 a $5000 Robit Loot Box bands and all you have to do is follow 646 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,320 FOMO Hour. Follow Robit and follow. 647 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,160 We'll do Nate Alex today. So you got to follow Nate Alex 648 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,960 NFT on X as well. All right. 649 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,320 To the 2600 viewers on video, make sure you move there. 650 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200 We'll not move there but also get get live on spaces 'cause 651 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,680 that's where we pick and make sure we're to the room. 652 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,240 Let's get these numbers up for the legend that we're about to 653 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,440 get on on the stage. And besides that I mean before I 654 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800 get to Nate here and and bring him up, boys. 655 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240 I mean there was pack moon right OV I think did that. 656 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,440 What happened there in the end? I know you're probably more 657 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,080 tapped in than me in that front. It launched. 658 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,520 I know there was some bugs in the beginning. 659 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,680 Normal. That's not a blast. 660 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120 It's like everywhere. But like then what? 661 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,760 I think it just launched. I don't know really, OK. 662 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,680 There wasn't really a big. I think there are other things. 663 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,800 How do you mean like another $10 million on that? 664 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,080 I haven't. I don't even know how much I 665 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,600 made. I can't. 666 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320 I I wonder, OK, you can claim it on the AirDrop. 667 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,000 So again, be careful everyone. You know, airdrops, yada yada 668 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,640 yada, you know when you claim there's a lot of scams. 669 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,880 But it looks like the PAC Moon thing that we talked about is 670 00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:00,160 live now and you can now buy it. And the other thing, I mean look 671 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,440 like Pepe Whiff still on the move up with Bloomberg listing 672 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,920 it in the on the left curve side of the space. 673 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,080 I mean did you guys, we all missed Hank like this one token 674 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,280 went to $160 million. Like that is crazy. 675 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,199 Obviously Bowman's still running hot NFTSI mean parallel avatars 676 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,080 running on the back of the parallel news with Solana Prime 677 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,600 is up another 50%. That's not really left curve if 678 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,840 you ask me. That's very right curve. 679 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,760 But it it cooked. Love to see that you know 680 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,800 Avalanche Foundation, you know Speaking of of left curving 681 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,199 announcing again that their their meme coin, their meme coin 682 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,880 holdings Should we? When when is the Arbitrim 683 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,920 Foundation going to do that? I'm waiting. 684 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,120 I'm waiting. I saw science chat post about it 685 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,880 yesterday. Shout out to our shout out to 686 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,320 our partners at Arbitrum. But Foundation discloses this is 687 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600 great. Guys, Can you believe this 688 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920 timeline? They own some hilarious coins 689 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,120 back. Let's see what they Let's go 690 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,160 look at what they own. You know what? 691 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,560 I'm bringing Nate up. Nate, what's up? 692 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,440 I'm bringing you up for this 'cause I see you laughing in the 693 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,080 in the, in the. This is. 694 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,560 Funny, it's too, man this. Is crazy. 695 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,840 What did they own? What did they own? 696 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,080 Did they? Where did they announce what 697 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,840 they own? Like what? 698 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,720 What? Where's the They own? 699 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,360 It's. Like it's like 5 different 700 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160 tickers and they all are. So they own caulk. 701 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,360 Inu, we know caulk because they like D like Avac's Checkpoint, 702 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,120 right? Like that's the one. 703 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:32,200 Like everyone knows about caulk. They own Gecko, Kimbo, No Chill, 704 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,740 and Tech, each selected based on stringent criteria that under 705 00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:41,960 score a commitment to Avalanche and Fair Web Three practice. 706 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,160 I mean this. Are you guys reading this? 707 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,640 The Meme Coin devs have committed fair Web 3 practices. 708 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,800 What timeline is this? That's the. 709 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,760 Great thing. That's the best one, man. 710 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,760 All these different foundations are going to stop buying shit 711 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,960 coins the only. I love it. 712 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,560 I love it. I think this is great. 713 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,200 What do we what do? What is your takes on Amanda? 714 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,400 What do you think? I personally, I know I'm 715 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,920 laughing about this. I think this is awesome. 716 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920 I think this is freaking awesome because they push all the other 717 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,120 foundations to have to. Do you know who it's awesome 718 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,240 for? Me, You, the listener. 719 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,640 Because now all the foundations have to pump her shit bags, 720 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,680 right? And and that's just how it is. 721 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,680 I don't make the rules right. Like what do you think, Mando? 722 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,880 What do you think of what do you think, Nate? 723 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200 Let's go to you Mando. First OV Nate, and then let's 724 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,320 roll into to to natives and what you're up to Nate. 725 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,520 But Mando, what do you think about this? 726 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600 Are all the foundations about the pop meme coins here? 727 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,600 I think they will like for a while, like it's very, very 728 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480 clear that this is one of the best ways to get users on it, 729 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,800 right? So I think yeah, this is going 730 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040 to be definitely used by all the main ones. 731 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,360 What do you think over here? What do you think about 732 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,480 foundations? The very Serious foundation is 733 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,440 to have monstrous treasuries pumping our our the Meme coin 734 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,720 bags. I mean, it's great, as you said, 735 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:08,680 it's great for me and you and people like us, but just feels 736 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,440 fucking dodgy, doesn't it just feels wrong. 737 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,680 Something about that doesn't feel sustainable. 738 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,000 It just feels like it's going to end in tears. 739 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,560 Like what you going to do when it's the end of the cycle. 740 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,280 It's a bear market and you're sitting there earning a fucking 741 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,960 shit load of shit coins, right? Like. 742 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,320 It just it just. Doesn't seem like that's not how 743 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160 I would build a blockchain. Like I get it, you want me 744 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,280 calling activity to drive users, but I think just buying, like 745 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,680 the foundation buying tokens on that chain I don't think 746 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,640 creates. I don't think is is solving the 747 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,800 problem they're trying to solve, I think. 748 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,680 I think it's a very myopic way to do it. 749 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,200 Yeah, it's pretty well, what do you think, Nate? 750 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,480 You've been around for a minute. You've. 751 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,840 You've. Yeah, you've you've lived a few 752 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,680 cycles. Did you once think that these 753 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,440 foundations would come and do something like that? 754 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,080 Man, dude, at this point I you never really know what the hell 755 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,400 is going to happen. It just is always surprising 756 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480 you. Like I think yeah, there 757 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,640 probably will be copycats especially if they're successful 758 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,880 with their stringent shit coining and you know I think 759 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,080 it's a copycat space. We'll we'll see more do it and I 760 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,680 mean it's good for us and you know to OSS point, I mean it 761 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,400 kind of always ends in tears that's sort of where we go 762 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:21,960 after. The. 763 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,040 After the big fun part, the you know, the party's just starting. 764 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,200 You know, a lot of people are going to make a shit ton of 765 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,640 money and then, well, you know. I agree. 766 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200 I mean let let let's you know let's segue. 767 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,800 I mean may as well may as well chat with you about about all 768 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,040 this stuff you've been around. When did you, when did you when 769 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200 did you join crypto? Because you you're you're an NFT 770 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,280 like OGOGOG, but like when did you join crypto as as a whole? 771 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,760 So it was pretty short. Like, I haven't been in crypto 772 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,240 that much longer than NFTS. It was just pretty much 2017. 773 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,320 And then probably three months after that I was buying my first 774 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,560 NFT. So yeah, I mean at that point, 775 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,200 you know, I had like fucking like $1000 in and I was like 776 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,920 flipping crypto kitties for a dollar or $2.00 and shit. 777 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,440 And it was just kind of like a way to like maybe I can make a 778 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,400 little extra cash and maybe I can make 100 extra a week or 779 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,360 some shit. It wasn't like I ever thought 780 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,720 This will turn into like, I'll get rich from this. 781 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:17,880 I never really. I mean, I hoped, but I never. 782 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,320 Yeah, that's pretty cool. So let's let's hear the origin 783 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,080 story though, right? Like, I know the NFT Twitter 784 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,280 crowd. Like obviously, like everybody 785 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,840 knows of Nate. Alex I can't wait to talk about 786 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,320 natives and see what you're up to but you know let's let let's 787 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,840 talk a little bit about about about the about the lure. 788 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,920 I know you were on wrecked. You guys did wrecked radio 789 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,400 right. I think Nate Alex was on wrecked 790 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,480 radio before but like what what when like what what what Tell us 791 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,680 more tell us more about like about what you saw in NFTS early 792 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,400 on and like what made you really want to want to get And also I 793 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,320 want to know like what do you see now right. 794 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,440 Like of course like the thing being flooded the most here is 795 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,920 NFTS with all these coins going crazy almost honestly. 796 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,600 Also curious on the conversation we had before in your take like 797 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,280 we talk about artist coins and if this meta gonna be a thing. 798 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,320 Do you think from a moral standpoint like there's a big 799 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,120 difference between the RC 20 and 721, like, you know, let, let, 800 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,040 let's go there? Like what do you what, what's 801 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160 what's that your thought about the state of the of the NFT 802 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,400 space here and what do you think we go from there? 803 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,120 So I mean I remember you know 2020, I remember going to East 804 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,960 Denver conference, that was my first conference that I went to. 805 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,160 Crypto is pretty dead at this point. 806 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,760 ETH is probably like $250 or something like that and that was 807 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,760 a high from the month before like 2X already. 808 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,880 So at that point I was like one of only like 2 NFT teams there. 809 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,440 Everybody there was focused on D5 and I'm like, I've been in 810 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,760 NFTS at this point, you know, for three years. 811 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,720 Basically what happened in 2018 is I was a noob. 812 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,640 I came, I get on Twitter, I look for the big accounts that have a 813 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,120 lot of followers, 'cause they, they know what they're talking 814 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,080 about, right? And then I I follow all their 815 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,400 shit coin advice. I lose like 95 percent, 99% on 816 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,080 some coins, like, no, you lost fucking everything. 817 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,320 Although it was maybe like maybe at the peak, like 1215 thousand, 818 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,560 something like that. And by the end of the year, I 819 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,200 mean, it's nothing. It was literally just dust left. 820 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,200 And then I I borrowed against MY4O1K because at this point 821 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,280 I've been collecting NFTS and I knew there was something deeper 822 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,680 and like kind of stickier there. And I'd I'd cashed out all of my 823 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,920 shit coins for 90% losses into EVE, which also lost 90%. 824 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,880 But I knew that it was like, this is the platform that 825 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,600 enables NFTS. This is actually, there's 826 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,280 something bigger here. So I I borrowed against MY4O1K, 827 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,720 bodied with it, and this is at the bottom. 828 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:38,760 Do like $8090.00 like fuck yeah, I mean, got lucky maybe. 829 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160 But anyway, so so Fast forward to 2020. 830 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,240 I'm one of the few NFT groups there because most people just 831 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,320 didn't believe in them. They didn't see any future for 832 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,400 them. And we've. 833 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,560 I've seen this before we saw it. You know where people go, Well, 834 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,080 you don't need a token or you don't need an NFT because a shit 835 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040 coin, That's just a shit coin. With the picture of this a shit 836 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,200 coin, you can just do the shit coins and you know, I see that 837 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,080 and it goes in circles. Like generally speaking, I think 838 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,240 that retail, when they come in, they don't come in as jaded as 839 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,880 we are, they don't. It's hard for them to look at 840 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,520 something that literally all of us except this kind of a 841 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,160 valueless but fun game to play for them. 842 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,240 They're like, why will this be big? 843 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:22,080 And they're like, OK, this, they may become the next Nike or 844 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,040 maybe this will be the next Picasso. 845 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,360 And that's like what I think retail tends to kind of 846 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,320 gravitate towards. And that's why I think NFTS 847 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,880 became so big whenever they came in in a big way after Top Shot. 848 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,760 Yeah it's it's really wild And so the top shot era was crazy I 849 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,480 mean pretty much fair to say. I think top shot started a lot 850 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,280 of the run obviously mixed with $69 million sale of of of Beepos 851 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,800 one of one you know stuff like that kind of help on on a 852 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,360 catalyst level. What do you think? 853 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,040 What do you think where how do you feel about now? 854 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,280 Like you know of course, like you know I think on the crypto 855 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,280 art side it's the lowest felt sentiment wise. 856 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,720 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's feeling very low from at 857 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,040 least my standpoint. Like when I'm reading on the 858 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,320 timeline. ETH NFT specifically is very 859 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,720 like on the grim side right when the face of it like the board 860 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,760 ape like E that everything goes sub 15. 861 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000 Of course punks for me will always be the face of Ethereum 862 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,600 NFTS, right? It's different, but you know 863 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,320 that also like you know to the retail like 2021's really board 864 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,000 apes and stuff like that not looking well. 865 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,840 Of course ordinals are different narrative, I think so long NFTS, 866 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,800 even different narrative. But how do you feel here about 867 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,480 the state of like a theorem ecosystem? 868 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,120 It's NFTS right now. We I mean it got over saturated 869 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,880 there's it's not really a high bar to launch like the kind of 870 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,720 what I would consider kind of a basic NFT where you know and 871 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:42,160 this is kind of the playbook that people realize they they 872 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,400 realized you can hire an artist for $20,000. 873 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,960 You can hire a smart contract Deb that can clone a contract 874 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,680 not do anything fancy. You can hire somebody to build 875 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,440 your front. You can hire all that stuff out 876 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,880 for pretty cheap and if you can like kind of just be a project 877 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640 manager and build a little bit of hype on the timeline using 878 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,960 like engagement, farming tactics, all of which you know, 879 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,800 we know some of the the techniques that are used, you 880 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,280 see them, you know, like tag three people and shit like that. 881 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,040 You can kind of snowball a successful sale of $1,000,000 882 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,560 for not a lot of work and not a lot of overhead. 883 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200 And that happened. And that's why there's a fuck 884 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,600 ton of NFTS 'cause people saw that opportunity and that's why 885 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,240 now there's just so much supply and people are confused by what 886 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:31,000 is good and what isn't or or like what may be around in 10 887 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,320 years. For me, you know, and I know 888 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,640 most people don't have the patience to think about 10 years 889 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,200 like you. You know, you see like auto 890 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680 glyphs in 10 years, people will still remember them. 891 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,160 They still will care about them and they will probably be even 892 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,640 more valuable then. So there are winners in there. 893 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,560 I just think what happened is people didn't really understand 894 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,840 them and they were building them and they were pushing them out 895 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,080 and people that were collecting them didn't really understanding 896 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,920 them and all the a lot of the talking heads didn't understand 897 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,720 what they're talking about. So just it just was a massive 898 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,600 bubble. I I really, really, genuinely 899 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,800 believe that there's like an art renaissance happening here. 900 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,960 There will be pieces that we get to collect that in the future 901 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,320 people will be like, I can't believe you were around when 902 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640 that fucking launched. I can't believe you bought that 903 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,680 for 1000 or even $10,000. That stuff like that is gonna be 904 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,680 created and be we're. We have the opportunity to 905 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,800 create it and to collect them. And I think that that is what's 906 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,280 really kind of special here. Yeah no that's a that's a that's 907 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,840 a really good take I love that So let's talk about what you're 908 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,720 up to then because you're not giving up on ETF NFTS you're not 909 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:40,640 giving up on it natives. Natives have been dude you 910 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,440 you've been talking about this forever on the timeline now what 911 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,200 what what is going on what what is what is natives NFT Nate Alex 912 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,760 and of course thank you so much dude for for for all this course 913 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,760 like considering both our communities are rock radio and 914 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,880 rec guy in in that I know Bernie had to do all of that in the 915 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,600 back end and and and to like winners which is super cool. 916 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,040 Like on our like we really made sure to pick people that are 917 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,080 active people who want cold who want to add value. 918 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,320 Like he he went deep you know and and to see like you know who 919 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,440 are like really the most active loyal community members so that 920 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,720 they can really support what you're doing. 921 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:16,440 But like what what's natives what's what's happening. 922 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,360 I love the brand you're all you're really good at this 923 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,480 stuff. You're really good at all this 924 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,480 IDs. I've learned a little bit over 925 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,760 the years. I mean, I've done a few 926 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,600 projects. I feel like all of them had 927 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,280 their weaknesses and and honestly all the ones that I've 928 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,040 done before I launched them, I felt like I I should do 929 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,960 something about this and with natives. 930 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,080 I'm not going to say that it's. I mean it's it's easily my 931 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,320 favorite project that I've ever created by like so far it it is 932 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,480 like the aesthetic I think is good. 933 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,560 I think the the story the way the the mechanisms will play out 934 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,280 and work. I I really think that it's going 935 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,880 to be unique and people who experience it are going to be 936 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800 like wow I I genuinely didn't know you could do this with 937 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440 entities and that's that's like my that's my goal. 938 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,360 I don't want to like think about well is the floor price going to 939 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,720 be 100 either one like that'd be great. 940 00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,960 I mean, coming around, that'd be fucking awesome because then 941 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,280 people would be like high fiving me on the streets and shit, but. 942 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,680 Like or not on the way down, because there's always a way 943 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,320 down, right? You know you're high fiving, you 944 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,760 know every top project on 20/21 and they're they're they're 945 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,040 destroying them on a timeline now. 946 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,520 So careful what you wish for. The hero for a little bit. 947 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,120 And then it's just so like with with natives, I really wanted 948 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,920 to. There you go. 949 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,560 Go on. Sorry, that's your website doing 950 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,320 that sound. You know, I I want people to 951 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,160 notice it. So that's why I like the 952 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,160 marketing is kind of in your face. 953 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,120 I'm not trying to be like overly like engagement for me with it. 954 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,360 I'm just genuinely trying to share stuff because there is a 955 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,120 lot of stuff here. I mean there's, you know, there 956 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,840 obviously there's the ETH NFT, there's the Bitcoin ordinal, the 957 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,880 the monolith component, there's the game, there's the physical 958 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,440 piece. It's like there's all these 959 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,320 components that I just, I don't think you can do like 50. 960 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,480 There are 100 tweets with like every fucking detail. 961 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,360 Nobody's going to read it, no or 10 people will read it like. 962 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,760 So the best way for me to do it is just slowly kind of share it 963 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,560 over the course of what I've been doing the last month and a 964 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,960 half. And still I know people are 965 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,400 still missing a lot of information. 966 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,160 And I'll, I'll wrap it all up and I want to make sure that all 967 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,040 the information is out there. I want the you know I want to 968 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,360 show an example of the monoliths but I can't show what they will 969 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,480 look like because they depend on what you do in the game. 970 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,880 So like so the monolith I'll just say is basically you play 971 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,160 this mini it's it's a game social game experience. 972 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,600 It lasts for up to 9 days kind of depending on how your your 973 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200 tribe does. But the monolith starts as 974 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,560 basically nothing. It's just in what the stuff that 975 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,800 you do is what kind of creates the piece. 976 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,840 I mean we've we've kind of dialed it in with the smart 977 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,200 contract level, but it creates all the JavaScript and the HTML 978 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,320 for the for the piece based on what you're doing. 979 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,960 So if you're like being super greedy then that should be 980 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,520 reflected in your piece. If your tribe is just absolute 981 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,840 shit and you die off early, that'll be reflected. 982 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:22,800 So like there's it will feel like it should feel like kind of 983 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,920 an artistic representation of your life in the natives game, 984 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,480 like that's the goal. So it's it's quite a bit 985 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,800 different than what I think people are used to. 986 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,920 I know people are more used to like, you know, you launch and 987 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,440 then you make promises like this. 988 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,840 What we're going to do when we get the money? 989 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,720 For me, I just, we're just going to build everything at the very 990 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,160 beginning before we launch. So that way everything that I'm 991 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,920 saying will do will have already been done and it'll all happen. 992 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,800 So when do we get to like 2 questions? 993 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,280 Of course. I love the website and that's 994 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,040 what kind of been going viral. Like the the size of the names 995 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,280 from what I picked up is. Oh, actually Hook Mando is 996 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,720 picked is based on the size of your account, though I was told 997 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,160 that it was actually on the size of. 998 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,480 Anyways, so so the other names, which I didn't know that you 999 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,040 could click on them on the on the account and it leads 1000 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,840 directly. I do them. 1001 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,440 So I love that you did that. You integrated them. 1002 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,240 What's that? What's that little like? 1003 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:22,640 Check on next to some names. So the check is that we have 1004 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,240 collected your address. Every person on the list I've 1005 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:28,560 personally talked to and have invited and they've suggested 1006 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,640 it. It's not like I just put big 1007 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,000 names on the list and then I hope that they'll participate. 1008 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,720 Every person I've talked to here, But I haven't gotten 1009 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:39,120 everybody's address. For some reason when I, like, 1010 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,400 started the process, I didn't think that it would be smart to 1011 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,400 collect the addresses. I thought I'll just circle back 1012 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,760 and get them. And that's like, well, I planned 1013 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,520 on us doing like a Twitter authentication thing. 1014 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,040 And then it just became like when we looked at all the scope 1015 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,720 of the work that we still have left to do. 1016 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,280 It's like, fuck it, I'll just pick them up manually because 1017 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,920 I've got to go through DMS anyways. 1018 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,960 We don't have time to like and and I've been told that that's 1019 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,960 actually fairly easy, but I there's still quite a bit of 1020 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,480 work left to be done if I'm being honest like quite a lot 1021 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,880 we'll get there. But my my planned date is like 1022 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,440 basically end of March, late late March and that's the 1023 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,880 timeline we're driving towards. I think that we'll hit it, but I 1024 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,440 basically will just be working non-stop and until then, which 1025 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:30,720 is fine. Yeah, that's that's sick. 1026 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,440 I need to collect you, Mandal. You got to send this manual 1027 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,200 address. I think OSF you too, because we 1028 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,960 didn't have, we didn't have that. 1029 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:39,400 We didn't have our check mark next to our names on there. 1030 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,320 I just checked. Very. 1031 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,320 I I got to get you my Farouk dot ETH you know. 1032 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,680 I think I actually I saved OS, FS Mint because Nate was like 1033 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,960 OSF hasn't replied to me and I was like oh don't worry about it 1034 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,840 I think. Actually. 1035 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,320 No, we got, we got, we got three rec guy, Mints. 1036 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,280 I gave him. We gave him to the rec guy. 1037 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,680 Yeah. Yeah, but you didn't want to 1038 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,320 answer him. You did not answer him. 1039 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,480 I put him in the chat with Bernie, OK? 1040 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,800 And then we got the wreck. I meant OK, so shut up burn dog 1041 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,800 who asked me to ask you if he can get a list about himself. 1042 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:14,040 But but anyways, anyways, it's true. 1043 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,160 I told Knight. Alex come on the show and he did 1044 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,760 say OSFOSF not Amanda. OSF did answer his DMS, so get 1045 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,080 your shit together OV OK. He was one of the first people. 1046 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,200 To respond actually and but I I think what had happened is for 1047 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,480 some reason like I had there there were two lists and they 1048 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,400 got merged. Some people got deleted. 1049 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,960 I'm like I know I gave OSS a spot and his name's not on the 1050 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,920 fucking list. Did I give him a spot? 1051 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,520 And then I'm like, we we have like this list of people that 1052 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,120 said they they had a spot and for like OSF he was on there and 1053 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,520 it was like the reason why it's like, well, he's he's OSF. 1054 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,400 Like we're pretty sure we gave him a spot and some other people 1055 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,480 were like winners of like community comments and stuff but 1056 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,760 the merge fuck some shit up. Hopefully people aren't going to 1057 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,840 be too disappointed. I wouldn't be surprised if two 1058 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,120 or three names slipped through the cracks unfortunately. 1059 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,040 I I mean it's it's been a heavily manual process. 1060 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,800 I want to be the one to invite people. 1061 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,600 People are like just have somebody else do it. 1062 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,880 I'm like, well this is like my like personal very, very 1063 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,000 personal project. I want to you know throw their 1064 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,120 hands for people. I think that they feel the right 1065 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,840 way to do it. Yeah, fill you on that. 1066 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,480 You know, you know, yeah, I saw your tweet about that, dude. 1067 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,680 It's just. Yeah. 1068 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,720 Fuck, I don't know, man. I I get that you could have 1069 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:32,720 somebody else send them out. It just doesn't feel quite as 1070 00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,560 good. Like if if your assistant goes 1071 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,640 it. Still feels less authentic, 1072 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,920 right? It's like it's not really. 1073 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,560 Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that for 1074 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:39,880 sure. Yeah. 1075 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,120 It's it's like for both of us, you know, not the whatever, but 1076 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,200 like we have a big audience we can sell out, We can generate 1077 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,320 hyper out almost anything that we're going to create. 1078 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,960 Even if it wasn't good, we we could still do that. 1079 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,320 And so like for this it's not about like filling out the list, 1080 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000 it's not about selling out like that is kind of trivial at this 1081 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,800 point. It's more about let's select the 1082 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,760 right people who I think will have the right audience, have 1083 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,000 people that will participate and people that can, you know, 1084 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,160 understand and enjoy it. I'm looking forward to it. 1085 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,400 I'm looking forward to it, man. I'm. 1086 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,680 Excited. I'm excited for anything you do 1087 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,480 because like you're just genuinely like such a cool dude 1088 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,800 in the space and you've been around. 1089 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,040 Hopefully the avalanche Foundation buys your your your 1090 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,240 moon cats at some point. But like oh sorry the Ethereum 1091 00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:27,840 Foundation. But you know like I just, I just 1092 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,720 think nada likes like one of the coolest people in the space and 1093 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:31,600 it's probably like a lot of people coming into the space 1094 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,960 that are probably like oh why is this getting a lot of attention? 1095 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,720 Why is there like 1000 likes per tweet on the natives WTF posts? 1096 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:39,640 Because this guy has been given back forever dude. 1097 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,640 So like, you've been collecting fire shit, your OG in the space, 1098 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,960 OG, Punk, autoglyphs, whatever you name it you've been there 1099 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,080 since Day 1. So it's it's really cool to see, 1100 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,640 to see what's going on when, when, when I I just saw time. 1101 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,400 So we got to go to the giveaways and the robot spins. 1102 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,720 But like when? When is this expected to go 1103 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,080 live? Like is there anything you can 1104 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,720 give us? Like what should people like 1105 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,960 expect now? So I'm I'm going to announce the 1106 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,840 price pretty soon. My hope is that people will look 1107 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,000 at it and go, that feels like pretty great relative value. 1108 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,160 I know that if I did like a Dutch auction, I could maximize 1109 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,240 this in other ways. I that's not really the focus. 1110 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:17,800 I I want people to feel like, Oh yeah, fuck yeah, I don't 'cause, 1111 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,320 you know, some of the, like, I don't want to go too deep in 1112 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,200 that. But I'm going to announce that 1113 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,640 pretty soon. I'm going to announce the date 1114 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,000 pretty soon. I'm going to share the what the 1115 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,600 generative art outputs actually could look like, the monoliths. 1116 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,960 I'm still kind of finalizing that design, but I've got 1117 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,360 something that I think is really good and that, you know, I I 1118 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,400 think about it sometimes. I'm like, why do I do this shit 1119 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,760 to myself? Why don't I just do something 1120 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,880 fucking easy, just make the generative art and and just sell 1121 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,840 it at fucking whatever when it would sell out. 1122 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,760 And I could do like 90% less work, but I hope that this extra 1123 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,440 effort and work will make it worth it. 1124 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,160 But I'll, I'll be sharing hopefully basically everything 1125 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,640 that you would need to know before meant probably within the 1126 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,600 next week. And then you'd have at least a 1127 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,200 week to think about it if for some reason you felt that the 1128 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520 value wasn't there. Yeah, this is this is going to 1129 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,360 be exciting, man. Like for everybody listening, 1130 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,920 make sure you follow Nate Alexander.