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Yo-yo yo what up what up Good 
morning good morning Wednesday 

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this Wednesday Wednesday May 
29th 2020 look at that another 

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beautiful day to have a 
beautiful day. 

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I got my Co host in the house, 
Tyler Mando. 

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How you guys doing today? 
Doing fantastic, good to be 

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back. 
Feeling great, some wild action 

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in the past couple days so we've
got plenty to talk about. 

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Stoked to get into it with you. 
Dude, there's so much. 

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To join the show. 
I tried to join the show 

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yesterday when I was out for 
lunch with OSF. 

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When we went out to get lunch 
and I was like, oh, you can come

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on and we can talk on the show. 
And then Lisbon 4G, oh, actually

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it was 3G. 
Where we were was. 

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There's no like, yeah, 2G2G, 
you're being very generous right

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now with Lisbon, but you can be 
has. 

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Good broadband, it has bad 
phone, phone reception that's. 

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I don't know, I'm convinced at 
this stage that even if you 

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connect the fucking thing to 
Ethernet, it won't work. 

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So mind the next step mind is 
going to try like actually plug 

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his computer into the to the to 
the wall with the Ethernet and 

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it's still not going to work 
right. 

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How is Lisbeth? 
How is the NFS? 

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Dude, I love the I I it's like 
my favorite conference, 

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honestly, top three, top three, 
my favorite conference are all 

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in Europe, honestly, because 
it's such there's not there's no

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better vibe than Europe in 
general, but like Euro summer is

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there. 
Yeah, it's. 

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Always good. 
It was also like last time the 

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conference, it was really bad 
weather. 

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It's been really good weather 
now, so OSF turned up like he 

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was going to a stag party. 
Like he had like. 

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No buttons on his shirt I. 
Was like what? 

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What are you doing? 
But yeah, it was it's been nice 

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weather. 
I the conference was was pretty 

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busy. 
The most busy room was the meme 

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con bit of it like for sure, but
that I think it was this was 

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like their main day as well. 
Yeah, there was such a cool 

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little vibe. 
Gave me or no? 

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We no, not really. 
It was choppy. 

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We kind of broke off. 
Oh, now you're Nah. 

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Now you're frozen. 
Now we lost him. 

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And this man just said he has 
great broadband like. 

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The 2nd meme Hold on, let's 
steer it a shot. 

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Commando test 1-2 Can you hear 
me? 

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Have I actually gone or not? 
Now you're good. 

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Now you're back. 
You're back. 

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You're actually gone. 
I'm not even making fun. 

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I. 
Can hear you. 

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I'm not Mimi. 
I can actually see your videos 

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as well so I don't know what's. 
Going on perfect, perfect, 

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You're good, you're good. 
It's the epic duck behind just 

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too much power. 
Maybe. 

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Maybe I'll just come back. 
Maybe do that, maybe 'cause now 

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his lips are moving different 
than his voice. 

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It's so funny when that happens.
It's true. 

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There was meme con yesterday. 
Let me let me see the I'm 

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looking at the timeline, see if 
I can find some photos of OSF 

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I'm going through. 
Surely there's like a photo of 

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OSF at meme con? 
I'm trying to find OSF at meme 

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con on the timeline right? 
Now he looked like he was gone 

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on a stag do or bachelor party, 
whatever like. 

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Stag is a bachelor party Yeah, 
for those of you who who who who

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don't know that's what a stag is
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So tell me more so you did you 
go to NFC as well? 

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Just oh, it's on one it's all 
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It's. 
One building, it's more like 

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meme Con is just like a. 
It's one of the rooms inside the

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Lisbon Conference. 
It's a. 

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Beautiful. 
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like in the park, just like 
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of Lisbon. 
But it's it was good. 

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I'm going to go down there again
today after this is done. 

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Check out that's that's crazy 
that they they had me speaking 

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there, but I'm here. 
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That's gush as well. 
That's the guy who created 

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Crypto Leos in the in. 
The bar Bar bar Barthesian. 

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No, that's Gersh. 
That's Gersh. 

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Now he's got the long hair like 
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Yeah. 
No, Gersh is here. 

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Gersh is the the guy on stage, 
yeah. 

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I mean here. 
I have no idea who that is. 

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Well, it looks like it's someone
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That's that's what it looks 
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I'm trying to find a picture. 
I'm going through meme con right

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now on the timeline. 
Oh, there he is. 

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Oh yeah, the shirt. 
The shirt. 

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That's the shirt. 
That's a boozing shirt right 

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now. 
That's the shirt, it's talking 

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to my boy. 
I think that's Kevin next to him

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from from Mimland. 
If I'm not, I was with him in in

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Hong Kong. 
Great lad, great lad. 

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So so did you also speak at 
Mimcon? 

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I was sitting right next to over
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That's almost like me taking a 
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But so take us take us through 
what happened because it was 

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really fucking sick. 
Like I was on a timeline looking

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at this and you were sharing the
video of people making everyday 

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live. 
And then obviously they have 

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your coin epic at the very top. 
Like take me through the process

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of like take me through like the
like what happened? 

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Like how come? 
Like how did he pick the list? 

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Like how does this whole thing 
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He was just going through the 
replies to his tweet. 

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I didn't even speak to people. 
So that wasn't me meeting him in

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person or anything like that. 
Like he just, I think he went 

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through the replies for his 
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He I had spoken to him before, 
like he'd messaged me when it 

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first launched and I didn't know
if he was sniffing around, but I

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haven't I haven't gone and 
shielded to him. 

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Actually, that was our last 
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So maybe I should, I should get 
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hey, man, this thing isn't dead.
In case you weren't looking for 

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any, any, you know, inspiration.
But yeah, that's, that's the 

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last conversation. 
But yeah, I love people. 

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He's a, he's a, he's good. 
He's good in person. 

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He's like one of these people 
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quite a lot of magnetism to me, 
even in person. 

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Yeah, I, he's actually really 
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Like people is actually so fun, 
so humble and he does a lot of 

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fun stuff and he he likes to put
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So he's got like 12345678910. 
Well, there's like 2530 tokens 

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on this thing. 
Like there's even some in red 

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here. 
That is hilarious. 

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You must have been freaking out 
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guys on top of it. 
That's so good. 

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Yeah, I saw it and I was like, 
wow, like maybe he didn't 

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remember it. 
Maybe he remembered it. 

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I don't know. 
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Like I said, I haven't. 
I haven't spoken to people since

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he's been it so. 
Well I saw the video you posted 

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yesterday and like oh I may not 
find it because you have been on

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a retweeting rampage which is 
actually fun to watch. 

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I do have your notification. 
That was from a holder. 

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He was a whole this video OK, 
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poster is true is true is true. 
He was there, but that's that 

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looked a lot of fun, man, 
honestly, it's there. 

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It is that's live. 
That's so cool that he's doing 

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it live like that. 
I got the chance to watch people

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do it live every day once and 
it's opening. 

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Tyler, did you, did you ever 
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day in like in person? 
Well, I haven't seen it in 

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person. 
I haven't I had a chance to talk

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to him at MTNYC last year. 
So I, I shared Mando's thoughts.

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He's a super fun guy to talk to,
great energy. 

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But Mando, all, all the holders 
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and this was all playing out 
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insane green candles. 
So, I mean, this was one of the 

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the highlights of the year so 
far. 

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Oh yeah, the people, the people 
that were like Tyler and I like 

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at home, neither at consensus or
in Portugal at NFC, Memecon, 

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etcetera. 
Like we were losing our minds 

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like. 
But The thing is, we're having 

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our own conference right now as 
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Like there's consensus, there's 
NFC and there's celebrity meme 

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coins, all three of them at the 
same time. 

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So, you know, I feel like I 
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sit out for once in my life. 
I'm home when something. 

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Yeah, like it's so tough. 
Like I, I had to do the minutes 

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in like I did, I went on stage 
and then do the minutes 

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afterwards and I was like, how 
have I missed all this stuff? 

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Like what has been going on? 
Like you literally I was like 

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out of the market for a few 
hours and you just feel like you

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missed so much. 
Well. 

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I don't even understand. 
What's going on like? 

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Well, we've got you covered on 
that and we're going to bring 

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you know what hold that thought 
real quick. 

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I see Frank's in the comments, 
not Frank. 

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I sent you a stream yard link. 
If you want to join us on video 

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today, you're more than welcome 
to check your DMSI saw him 

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comment here GM, so I may as 
well send him a link anyway 

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today on the show, so we'll get 
to that today on the show today 

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today crypto market report as 
usual, so we'll talk about the 

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market, but we don't have to go 
over it too much like it's flat 

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not much going on. 
You know the usual the usual 

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things the ET FS doing well, 
blah blah ZK casino to 72 hours 

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for ETH withdrawals ENS to 
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Oh my God, I didn't know that 
OK, interesting Cardano finally 

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dropped out of top ten. 
We're we're getting somewhere. 

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Which part of the cycle is this?
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Same question Mendo and and you 
have Salami Ryan Salami 

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sentenced 7 1/2 years in jail. 
You know just a bunch of stuff 

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going on. 
You know me all its memes and 

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dreams. 
I mean that is what we're going 

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to spend the bulk of this show 
on. 

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I am pretty sure so celebrity 
meme coins we're going to talk 

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about Jenner we're going to talk
about because I listened to both

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bass. 
I was on the Iggy Zella space 

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all night, but on anonymous mode
because I was tired last night. 

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So I was up to like 2:00 in the 
morning. 

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So I'm not going to lie like I 
did listen because I just always

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find these things so fascinating
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So yeah, I was listening to 
Frank and all these guys just on

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there with with Iggy Zella. 
I thought it was hilarious. 

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Of course, like, you know, to 
each their own when it comes to 

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risk, be careful and that's your
own risk. 

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And then, you know, the return 
of ordinals maybe puppets seem 

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to have bought in a .1 Bitcoin. 
Tyler, I'm sure we'll talk about

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that. 
Let's talk about let's do a 

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little, let's make today more 
about like meme coins, alts, 

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memes and dreams, you know, 
NFTS, etcetera. 

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And then Frente Cristiano what? 
4th NFT drop. 

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OK, I guess Cristiano Ronaldo. 
I mean actually I want to talk 

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about that celebrity meme coins 
versus celebrity NFTS because 

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the NFT part seems to be much 
more welcome on the timeline 

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that the meme coin part. 
What's the difference if they're

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all coins pictures? 
Hmm, keep that thought. 

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Let that in your brains both of 
y'all 'cause we're going to get 

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to that one. 
I want to ask you that because I

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noticed a huge difference in the
way people react to that 

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anyways. 
And then, you know, MOG just, 

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you know, hitting hitting all 
time high right on the back of 

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of Robit announcing that they're
doing futures on it. 

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But literally like two like 2 
minutes later man, it was crazy.

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Last time I was what I watched 
an epic God candle, a mog God 

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candle, a whiff God candle, all 
at like midnight. 

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It all happened been super late,
so that was a lot of fun. 

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So I'm sure we'll have a lot of 
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then once you have a lot of 
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it all right, you insure that 
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But anyways, anyways, anyways, 
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actually going to go I'm going 
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because, you know, markets 
marketing, but Tyler, you know, 

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like Mando was saying, we're 
going to need a TLDR of what the

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F is going on on the timeline 
right now. 

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NFT and crypto analysis Tyler T 
on FOMO our calls the kids 

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can't. 
Read The Bachelor Bears. 

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This is good. 
Yeah, broke there. 

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There's a ton going on, so just 
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So the celebrity mean coin craze
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drops a stealth token and just 
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She was on Twitter all night 
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everything. 
We'll get into the details here 

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in a minute. 
We saw PAC Moon introduce its 

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social validator model for its 
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that's how the new tokens are 
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interesting model there. 
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Frenet as its next potential 
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points and a new concept called 
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launching platform. 
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continue to pump. 
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Bowden did counts. 

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Did it catch a bounce as well? 
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So over on Bitcoin, the dog 
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finally catching the bid. 
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They're all up 10%. 
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monkeys, O&B all up 10% on the 
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about this peoples everyday 
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including epic the duck at the 
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empty stats. 
He just tweeted out this morning

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for you blast bulls out there. 
He's going to raise that blast 

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gold estimate. 
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He is raising the the blast 
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So there's a lot of there's 
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yesterday. 
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had a tough time keeping up with
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conference. 
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story is the Iggy thing. 
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Do we want to get in? 
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Let's let's let this is what's 
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timeline. 
Let let's get on to it. 

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What happened yesterday Tyler, 
is there was rumors of another 

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Sahil coin going live with her. 
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all bring out Jing Tao. 
You guys obviously know Jing Tao

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Muzzy Muzzy Vermilion and what 
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everybody was running towards 
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actually called out a different 
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then three hours later, turns 
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mother one right. 
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Tao posted, I bought it like 
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was posting something this guy 
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warrior. 
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And and I and I and I and I and 
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And so anyways, what what what 
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like a three hour Twitter spaces
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I I, I I woke up a little 
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Frank. 
I woke up Frank just joined us 

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here on the video. 
I I woke up a little confused 

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because she knew a lot about 
what was going on. 

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Do we think? 
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Is this an act and with someone 
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is this legitimately someone who
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Well, how do you define knowing 
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Well, knowing a lot this. 
Is the crux of the philosophical

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debate that's happening right 
now What? 

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What's the like? 
What's the line? 

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How many days do you got to be a
reply guy until you can drop a 

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meme coin? 
This, This is the question of 

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the day. 
I, I, I I I don't know. 

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I I, I don't know, I don't know,
I, I, I'm still like, I woke up 

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this morning and I'm still like 
confused. 

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You know, there's the bubble 
maps post about like people 

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making a lot of money, like, you
know, people had the corner 

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early, blah, blah, blah. 
Then you have like you have both

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sides, right? 
You have some of. 

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Soulja Boy is currently on a 
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Oh God. 
Well, Soulja Boy is like the 

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worst of like, signals. 
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least like Iggy and Caitlyn 
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Those are people we haven't seen
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Those are the people who haven't
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But I mean, I mean, that's 
what's going down in the world 

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of celebrity meme coins, man. 
I mean, and Frank, you're in the

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trenches with them. 
I feel like you out of all of 

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us, you're really the most the 
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You were on stage last night 
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So why don't we take why don't 
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asleep right now that are 
listening to the show this 

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morning through what happened? 
Like what? 

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What do you make of all this? 
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So I'll give the, I'll give the 
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perspective. 
So there's this guy named Saw 

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Hill and apparently saw Hill is 
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Caitlyn Jenner coin. 
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which I joined expeditiously 
where he said that he was going 

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to be dropping a lot more 
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days. 
And then he proceeded to just 

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like drop the most random 
fucking like he I think he did a

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pre sale that he just like exit 
scam the money. 

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He did a bunch of random 
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actually the celebrities or 
whatever, one random Instagram 

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model. 
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was just like, dude, fuck this 
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posted, the less people were 
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And the rumor was and he started
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Azalea's coin as well. 
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fuck this Iggy coin like this 
just gonna be another like saw 

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Hill rug, whatever. 
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came out and said that she never
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Her little brother talked to saw
Hill and that was like, this 

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guy's a scammer. 
And but then saw Hill launched a

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coin saying that it was the 
actual Gazelia coin. 

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And then she was like, oh, what 
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She had some other coin. 
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and it was floating around in 
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And this is her story. 
I'm going to say her words. 

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And this I know it's not like a 
popular thing on crypto Twitter 

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to take people at face value. 
You know, it's like innocent 

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until proven guilty, whatever. 
But her story was that they 

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launched this coin mother. 
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wanted to. 
And it was just floating on the 

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market and they were deciding 
what they what they should do, 

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trying to buy more or whatever. 
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like we're just going to go live
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Once you tweeted, it kind of 
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And I think at this point I was 
like, ah, I don't know, probably

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still just kind of a grift, 
whatever, or maybe it still is. 

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But then I went in on the 
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bro, she's kind of valid. 
You know, she she basically was 

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just using a lot of the trench 
coated terms that are pretty 

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popular and, and, and seem to 
have a relatively good grasp on 

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like meme coin culture, whatever
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And her little brother might be 
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To your point, nothing crept but
here's like deep lore that I 

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tweeted about but like it was a 
reply to a DJ news post but not 

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a lot of people are talking 
about. 

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I remember 2021 big throwback 
2021. 

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There's like deleted tweets 
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Iggy Azalea was posting should I
buy solana NFTSI remember this 

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shit vividly because I was bare 
reply going to it back in the 

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day. 
And then she just basically 

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said, I don't really get NFTSI 
think they're like the what do 

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you call Beanie Babies? 
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ended up buying Solana N FTS. 
So now she comes back and she's 

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saying that she's basically been
in crypto for three to five 

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years and just been like paying 
people in crypto. 

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She just like seems to 
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terminology. 
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Like my crusade on the timeline 
today has less to do with Iggy 

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Azalea, but more to just do 
with, hey, everybody is saying 

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instantly anytime a celebrity 
touches like crypto that it's 

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automatically a scam. 
And I don't know if it's just 

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exercising like my own critical 
thinking, but I think there's 

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like a difference between just 
in the same way there's a 

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difference between people and 
crypto, the difference between 

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celebrities. 
And like, if we want to elevate 

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the discussion, you're saying, 
yeah, so if we want to elevate 

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the discussion, it's like, all 
right, if you think there's 

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something bad about Iggy and 
Iggy's coin, that's totally 

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fair. 
I haven't said anything like pro

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or against Iggy's coin. 
But to say that just because 

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every celebrity that's ever 
scammed. 

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Every celebrity in the past is 
scammed, then all celebrities in

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the future are going to scam. 
It's just a little bit like in 

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my head, it's just lazy 
thinking. 

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So that's kind of what the 
summary of the situation from 

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what I've seen so far. 
And that's like my take at the 

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end. 
Yeah, there's, there's like it's

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an interesting debate on the 
timeline you have on one side. 

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Some people are really just like
straight up like, no, this is a 

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scam. 
All of it. 

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It's really bad. 
I mean, I I saw, I mean I saw 

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OSF going off off. 
I woke up to us nearly calling a

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top. 
I was like holy shit, dude. 

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OS FS last tweet is damn crypto 
a bit weak this morning. 

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I wonder if there was any local 
top signs. 

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That's not my my buy doesn't 
talk like that. 

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Usually he's he's a full blown 
bull. 

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OK. 
Iggy Azalea is the the 

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generational super cycle top. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah, another good point you you
had and then on the other side 

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and and I actually I tend to I 
tend towards like what Mando's 

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talking about Mando was more 
like don't ask like if this is a

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top signal, ask which part of 
the cycle you're at, because 

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it's subjective to say is this 
good or bad for the space? 

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You'll have arguments on both 
sides, right. 

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I think also just flat going 
saying, oh, this is great for 

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the space is also like redacted,
but also saying, oh, this is 

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really bad. 
We're going to zero. 

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It's it's the same thing whether
you're left or right here. 

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But Amanda, what do you think of
all that? 

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You woke up this morning to all 
this shit because you're in 

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Europe. 
You weren't awake during all 

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that that that noise. 
Yeah, maybe I'm cynical. 

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I just, I, I just find the 
concepts of morality and crypto 

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just like very, very difficult 
because I think, do we want our 

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own people scamming us? 
Like we did that whole presale 

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matter a few weeks ago, right? 
Or two months ago, like, and 

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then these guys are all still 
around and getting tweets and 

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all this stuff. 
Like, I don't know, like I, I, 

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I, I don't actually have that 
higher moral compass when it 

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comes to crypto. 
I do in other parts of my life, 

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but when it comes to crypto, I 
feel like everyone's here just a

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DJN or a lot of people. 
So when we get into these sort 

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of like moral questions, even 
like the way the answer has kind

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of been cancelled for a few 
things he's done recently, like,

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I just don't know. 
Like I just don't feel this is 

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the space where like people come
here with like really high moral

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agendas because the stuff that I
have seen has just been so 

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wildly crazy over this over 
these last few years. 

445
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,320
And there seems to be like no 
real retribution either. 

446
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,920
So like, I don't know, like I'll
do my own like as long as I have

447
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,520
my own moral compass about the 
stuff that I do. 

448
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,280
But I'm not going to sit here 
and like say that everyone just 

449
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,600
should should think a certain 
way about certain things. 

450
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200
I think these meme coins will 
probably not last from the 

451
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,160
crypto celebrities. 
I'd be very surprised in a 

452
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,640
month's time any of these coins 
last. 

453
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,280
And I know that from having done
a coin myself, it's incredibly, 

454
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,800
incredibly tough, tough to like 
stay relevant and to be on the 

455
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,000
top of that pump dot fun chart 
or even close, like it's not 

456
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,400
easy. 
So I would be, I would be very 

457
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,600
unsurprised. 
And then we might look back on 

458
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,040
this and go like, well, that was
a flash in the pan. 

459
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,320
That being said, like I feel as 
though this is they just 

460
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,400
launched streaming around like 
they, they want to go down this 

461
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000
route where anyone go on there, 
create content and launch a 

462
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,320
coin. 
Like we're going to see tons of 

463
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,800
this stuff. 
And all this says to me is just 

464
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,360
like cryptos permeating through 
into our space and people will 

465
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,880
buy certain things and they 
won't. 

466
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,400
But I, I, I, that was my main 
take away from it. 

467
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,160
I think the fact that you're 
seeing probably people who are 

468
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,600
in financial difficulties or are
maybe less well known now doing 

469
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,120
this, that doesn't feel to me 
like the top of the cycle. 

470
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
That feels to me like they've 
just found a new way to make 

471
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,360
money and they're going to use 
it like Nifty Gateway. 

472
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:46,200
They remember the early Nifty 
Gateway drops and everyone was 

473
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,960
like, that was cycle top. 
It was like a real 4X on. 

474
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,800
ETH, that's like Clubhouse, 
that's like May 21 on clubhouse.

475
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,360
Like when Frank said something 
about I feel like 2021, I was 

476
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,440
like, dude, I was there. 
Like right. 

477
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,840
And everyone was not the top. 
Like we, we kept going. 

478
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,760
For a long it was the B to D It 
was the B to D celebrity's early

479
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,120
cycle, actually. 
Yeah, exactly the same one. 

480
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,560
So that's what helped me. 
And it wasn't Justin Bieber 

481
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840
buying his ape, right? 
Yeah, if we. 

482
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,480
If we. 
See. 

483
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Oh, much later I. 
Was at the end, yeah. 

484
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,560
Yeah, you see exactly right. 
So what I'm saying here is I 

485
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,640
don't think all this says to me 
is that this is this is now 

486
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,880
they've got a winner here. 
Like this is this is good tech 

487
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,960
which people are now working 
out, you know, you can do 

488
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,160
nefarious stuff with. 
But it's all it's all it's 

489
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,920
saying is that it's starting to 
pick up in culture. 

490
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,400
And I think that we're we're 
nowhere near the the top of 

491
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,560
this. 
Like this doesn't feel like a 

492
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280
top signal to me with the people
that have come in and done it. 

493
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,440
If, you know, it's like a huge 
celebrity started coming in and 

494
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240
each one was releasing a coin, 
you know, if we started to see 

495
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,840
like Swift coin or Kanye coin or
like Trump coin, like, yeah, I 

496
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,400
would start thinking, OK, this 
is not lost. 

497
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,920
I. 
Need that CA early for real. 

498
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,640
I mean, Frank, you're the one 
who got Trump. 

499
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,080
You know, you and Malcolm shout 
to MACD gods, you know you, you 

500
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,200
started the bull run. 
You know, you started, you guys 

501
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,600
started the bull run. 
I saw a decrypt article 

502
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,040
yesterday, actually. 
But you guys again. 

503
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,000
Yeah, yeah, decrypting, writing 
the best articles, by the way, 

504
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,640
decrypt articles. 
But I, I, I actually loved 

505
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,880
Mando's earlier points on 
morality because I think I see 

506
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760
this all the time in crypto 
where people make moral 

507
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,640
arguments. 
But I think it's really hard to 

508
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,880
define like, what is moral and 
what's not. 

509
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,360
And a lot of it rests on this 
axiom of, hey, you know, are 

510
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,800
they in it for the right 
reasons? 

511
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760
And so I think my main response 
to whales through earlier today 

512
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:45,560
was, well, you know, like go and
run a poll and ask like your 

513
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,360
audience, did they get into web 
three, you know, for either like

514
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,560
the tech or the money. 
And The thing is that we all 

515
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,680
know everyone here on this stage
and in general is you get in 

516
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,040
usually because you're 
interested in the money, like 

517
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,920
the financial aspect of it. 
You fall in love with the 

518
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,880
community, the people, the 
technology, the the vision of 

519
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,280
where this thing is going to go.
And I think that's perfectly 

520
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,440
fine. 
I have no judge. 

521
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,160
I I pass no judgement on people 
that come in for whatever 

522
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,680
intention. 
I think it's based on action. 

523
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,520
And so far, I think it's like, 
OK, again, here's the way where 

524
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,600
you take to the maximum degree, 
should people have the freedom 

525
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000
to buy whatever they want? 
Yeah. 100%. 

526
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600
I think this is this is a core 
belief of mine. 

527
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,200
If this is the case and you see,
and you'd pass moral judgement 

528
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,320
or you believe something is bad,
then your best course of action 

529
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,400
is to simply like, not buy it 
and share your reasoning for not

530
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,280
wanting to buy it. 
But to say, like, should Iggy 

531
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,600
Azalea drop a coin or should she
do it in this way or that way or

532
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,760
whatever. 
It's like, well, what are we 

533
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,560
talking about? 
You know, like it's a silly 

534
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560
conversation. 
Yeah, I think we're all like a 

535
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,360
lot of adults here. 
So like, I don't think anyone 

536
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,560
even screamed to go buy this 
thing, which is different. 

537
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,840
In last cycle, it was like, oh, 
this this coming out, we should 

538
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,120
buy it. 
This cycle is like, no, we 

539
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,280
shouldn't, but fuck it if they 
want to enter that. 

540
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,720
For example, this came out this 
morning, Frank. 

541
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,440
And man who sent it to me Tyler,
the bubble maps right and so the

542
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,040
bubble maps will show that like 
20% of supply was bought by 

543
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,680
insiders and that $2.3 million 
was already made realized like 

544
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,320
actually realized as APNL from 
insiders of the coin. 

545
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040
Now insiders could be people 
that sniped can be people that 

546
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320
were on early it can be anything
on pumped up phone right There 

547
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,880
are snipers that come in that 
will just like destroy your coin

548
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,680
over time. 
Typical pumped up phone actually

549
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,440
is happened to Mendo. 
You were sniped like crazy right

550
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,200
and so and then they were 
selling for fucking 30 days 

551
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,040
straight. 
But the truth is that that is 

552
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,080
also the other side of it right.
So I think like for me like this

553
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760
cycle. 
So we need to drop the bubble 

554
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,880
maps on Mando right now. 
Actually now it's just like one 

555
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480
of those things where if you're 
not in the like, I use pumped 

556
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,280
off one, I'm a user. 
And when you're on it, it's 

557
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,440
like, first of all, you know, 
anyone can buy this coin. 

558
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,920
And so when I see like Insider 
again, I understand it's a 

559
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,200
clickbait thing. 
I can get cancelled over saying 

560
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,960
this, whatever. 
But like, I just don't have all 

561
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,720
the facts. 
Like, I'm looking at this and 

562
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,200
it's like, I heard Iggy talk 
about it yesterday and it it 

563
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480
lines up with what she said. 
She was like, oh, she couldn't 

564
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,200
get enough of the supply. 
It went up too fast. 

565
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,040
She was annoyed by it. 
And so again, like, that's never

566
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,400
going to beat the click. 
That's what she said. 

567
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,360
Yeah, she says she got she has 
3%. 

568
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,400
And again, like that's her word.
This is bubble maps and bubble 

569
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,160
maps has a story. 
Now for my take. 

570
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,720
I've heard both sides and like 
they both, both the stories 

571
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,440
actually line up in this 
scenario. 

572
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,240
But obviously I'm never going 
to, you know, me Frank is never 

573
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,240
going to be a bubble maps expose
article. 

574
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Like it's like the Zack HBT 
thing, like you're not going to 

575
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,960
like change your mind. 
My my take being very degenerate

576
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520
here is like, well, fucking 20% 
of supply with sniper. 

577
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,800
I like with by sniper. 
I'm not going to buy that shit. 

578
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,560
Like, Oh my God, you know, it's 
like they're going to dump on my

579
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960
head. 
But does again, does this mean I

580
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,400
pass moral judgement on people? 
That are the moral thing is, 

581
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640
yeah, the whole moral standard 
thing is is is that's. 

582
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640
It's a tub. 
It's a it's a slopest of slopes,

583
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,440
right? 
That's the whole moral standard 

584
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,600
thing. 
I mean, we technically thinking 

585
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520
we all are operating on the Gray
area in this industry. 

586
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680
You know, even as a founder of a
media company that has a 

587
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040
tokenized media brand in the 
United States of America, we are

588
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,800
all operating on on a on a on a 
Gray line. 

589
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,200
And also that's also thanks to 
our because of, you know, the 

590
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,760
regulation that doesn't want it 
to prosper or to actually have. 

591
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,680
Sometimes people like amoral. 
Like. 

592
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240
If if fucking matchy was going 
to coin tomorrow, I didn't 

593
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,600
drink. 
Alcohol. 

594
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,280
And money, right? 
Like sometimes people like the 

595
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,200
immoral people in this space. 
They they want. 

596
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,720
See. 
Brother I only buy shit coins 

597
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,440
and animals. 
Like again, I'm not really that 

598
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,360
like if she was to launch 
another coin today, I reckon 

599
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040
people. 
Would buy it at some point. 

600
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Amanda at some point was asking 
overnight a few weeks ago when 

601
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,200
it was like down only on Epic. 
It's like, why is this not like 

602
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400
what he's like, I've done this, 
isn't that right? 

603
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520
I'm actually cooking it. 
Why is this not pop popping? 

604
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,160
And I told mind. 
I said you're not a scammer. 

605
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,200
That's why it's not blowing up. 
People like to buy things from 

606
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,920
scammer sketchy devs. 
They like that they like it that

607
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,680
that's just I didn't know. 
I mean, Tyler, what do you, what

608
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,720
do you make of all this? 
Oh, so so let's dive into that a

609
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,480
little bit. 
Well, for one, I think this is 

610
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,560
just a part of the market. 
You have to deal with it. 

611
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,800
You don't have to trade in this,
but it is here and it's here to 

612
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,120
stay. 
So you just need to to deal with

613
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120
that and just make your own 
investment decisions coming off 

614
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,600
of it. 
It's like, what does Iggy have 

615
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080
to do to to prove that she's not
a scammer here? 

616
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,080
Like if if she tweets and does 
spaces for a month, is that long

617
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120
enough if she tweets? 
About it, I think it's one month

618
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200
and three days exactly. 
That's what the Kol Cabal, 

619
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,080
that's what the Kol board said. 
The KOL board like. 99.99% of 

620
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,480
all these things have gone to 0 
for tokens and NFTS like we. 

621
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,080
We know that is the most likely 
outcome here. 

622
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,240
It doesn't necessarily mean that
she is a scammer. 

623
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,080
So I listened to her on the 
modern market this morning. 

624
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,160
I missed last night's spaces. 
This is what? 

625
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,240
The E Shack's show this morning.
Yeah, we. 

626
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920
We actually do epic on. 
I've never been on the site so 

627
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080
I've never seen what it is like.
What do you what? 

628
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,400
What am I looking for? 
This is great. 

629
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Bubble Maps is great. 
I don't know. 

630
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,160
Didn't you put your contract 
address in there and I guess 

631
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,760
you'd get your? 
We bring it. 

632
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,800
Up like I actually want to see. 
Yeah, I'm actually super, I'm 

633
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,800
actually super curious. 
I was going to write an expose 

634
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,600
on. 
Man, you know what? 

635
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,120
You. 
Yeah, Spyler, take your keep 

636
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,480
going and I'm gonna go to Boba 
maps the same thing. 

637
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,720
Where, where, where Where is 
your moral? 

638
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,920
Well, on your point, Tyler, I 
wanted to say as someone has 

639
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,000
bought, as someone that's bought
a bunch of meme coins, I've 

640
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,560
definitely lost more money to CT
natives than celebrities. 

641
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,320
I can tell you that for a 
fucking fact. 

642
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,200
Some of these guys are cooking 
me, bro. 

643
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,760
And it's And so, yeah, there's 
that's an interesting point too.

644
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Like CT natives are better 
scammers than celebrities, of 

645
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,000
course. 
This looks like the. 

646
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640
This looks like the. 
Oh, fifteen 80s are the ones 

647
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,080
held. 
Oh, dude, that's a scammer. 

648
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,280
I I know that pattern. 
I actually know that pattern. 

649
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Yeah, that's a big time scan. 
Pattern. 

650
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,920
Yeah. 
You see this bubble here? 

651
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,600
There's a concentration of 
Mando's wallets here, and then 

652
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,320
I'm kidding. 
You know like that looks like 

653
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,080
the 16th token holder has like 
3%. 

654
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Well, what it's worth, it 
actually looks pretty good. 

655
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,520
I think it. 
Looks so bad, right? 

656
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,840
Oh. 
Yeah, it actually looks fire. 

657
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Actually my my quanch is called 
this. 

658
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Looking fucking good man, 
honestly. 

659
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,040
And if I zoom out like you would
see a lot, right? 

660
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Yeah, I guess we have to pay 
there's. 

661
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Like he's out. 
Slip is out up only. 

662
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,880
No, if I so I saw this whole 
thing like last cycle. 

663
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Also another question I have for
you guys is, is it OK if they 

664
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680
come and drop NFTS versus a 
shake point? 

665
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,520
So last cycle was NFTS and Nifty
Gateway. 

666
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,680
You touched on that Mendel, 
right? 

667
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,240
And actually for that first 
word, I actually hosted a ton of

668
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,640
them. 
The whole like Paris Hilton 

669
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,440
thing. 
Got on the phone with her also a

670
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
few times on the side convinced 
me she was serious about this 

671
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,000
shit. 
You know, probably was here 

672
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,520
because it was a bull market or 
a bear market. 

673
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,520
None of these people were 
around. 

674
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,680
But also a lot of the CT natives
that I saw on the timeline that 

675
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,280
were not around the bear market.
So like they a lot of a lot of 

676
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,480
faces that were not out here 
that were hating on the way down

677
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,080
came back all of a sudden three 
years later. 

678
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680
So you're not much better than 
celebrity, right? 

679
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,240
And then and then so there was 
all the Mike Tyson. 

680
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
No, no, no NFTS and they have 
meme coins. 

681
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,520
I want to ask you 3A question. 
Are celebrities dropping meme 

682
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,080
coins that difference for a 
celebrity doing an NFT gateway 

683
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:37,680
open edition because it has. 
I think people assume that more 

684
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,240
effort goes into an NFT launch 
and perhaps that's more OK 

685
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360
because they perhaps put more 
time into it. 

686
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,280
But I, I don't think that's a 
good answer, right, Because you 

687
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,960
can still have bad intentions 
just with something you put more

688
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,120
time and effort into. 
And we, and we still certainly 

689
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,000
saw, you know, more primary sale
raises at, at much higher breaks

690
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
than what she's going to take 
from, from this meme token. 

691
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,360
So. 
Yeah, I was going to say, it's 

692
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,240
like celebrities make less money
from the meme coins than they do

693
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,360
from NF. 
TS for sure. 

694
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Yeah, some sort of, I mean, you 
talk about the Beaver thing, 

695
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,800
right? 
It's like I think you made what,

696
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,440
1520 mil or something like that.
And so with this case, man, if 

697
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,280
she's being straight up about 
this 3% thing, bro, like she's 

698
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,280
definitely not making it. 
She's definitely not making 

699
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,800
that. 
But I mean, she did stay on the 

700
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,080
space and she really doesn't 
care. 

701
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,159
She's like got some telecom 
business or something. 

702
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:33,120
She's a I'm not going to lie, 
I'm kind of in love, but hearty 

703
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,120
fumble. 
Hearty fumble she's. 

704
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,040
Hearty fumble. 
That was the tweet of the night.

705
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Man, it's. 
Hearty fumble. 

706
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,400
Is like she's incredibly 
eloquent. 

707
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,840
I mean, she was on the the 
modern market space this morning

708
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,760
with 00 sleep and I mean she was
I got not every point was 

709
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
incredible, but she I think my 
broader takeaways, she's just 

710
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,360
very well spoken and she's a 
thoughtful person. 

711
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,280
Did she know the buzzwords or 
was she like eloquent of the way

712
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,040
she explained the stuff? 
In the part of the conversation 

713
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,520
I caught, they're more talking 
like the creator coming like why

714
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,560
she would want to do this. 
And the middleman, she was 

715
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600
explaining that the music 
industry and all the cuts that 

716
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,080
they get taken out along the way
and, and there's less in, you 

717
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,800
know, in, in crypto. 
And that was an aspect of it 

718
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,600
that she liked. 
But I just think she just, she 

719
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,160
was making good points. 
She was explaining her thought 

720
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,640
process and she was speaking for
like 5 to to 8 minutes straight.

721
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,800
Like it was not just short, 
choppy or like fed answers. 

722
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Like she clearly has these 
thoughts on on her own. 

723
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,480
I don't think anyone is spoon 
feeding her talking points. 

724
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,040
So I, I came across a little bit
more open to this. 

725
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,960
I haven't bought but I was 
thinking about it. 

726
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,360
The same here I I actually put 
in like a fucking limit order on

727
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,040
photon when it was at like 20, 
but my limit order. 

728
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Was. 1616. 
Guys are all holders. 

729
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,680
You guys are clearly all holders
like you. 

730
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Guys, no, I really, I really 
not. 

731
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,320
I wish I did. 
Do I wish my fucking order hit? 

732
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,760
Dude, I'd be hyped. 
I'd be even more bullish all the

733
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,400
time. 
Why? 

734
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,240
This is me with help fucking 
holding this again. 

735
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:08,880
It's so funny. 
But no, yeah, go for it. 

736
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,960
I was like, one thing I haven't 
heard anyone say like, is Solana

737
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,440
the big winner here? 
So so far all the. 

738
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,400
Same. 
I mean I talked about this 

739
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,280
yesterday. 
I said study, study that you 

740
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040
know all these people picking 
Solana and that's some L2 to 

741
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,760
drop their shake coin. 
I don't see them dropping I. 

742
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,760
Think the story for the for the 
on chain warriors, like for the 

743
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,840
on chain boys here, I think the 
story is like Solana's just 

744
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,440
winning the cycle kind of all 
all hands on deck. 

745
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,640
Like, I mean, we're excited for 
Blast, we're excited for like, 

746
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:41,640
yeah, we're excited for base to 
do whatever, but man, like it's,

747
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,360
it's just a world of a 
difference. 

748
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,880
I, I, I actually like base 16Z1 
of my favorite accounts 

749
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,760
recently. 
You know, I, I think I replied 

750
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520
to one of his posts yesterday 
where he was talking about like 

751
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,280
how it feels like 21. 
I was also saying it feels like 

752
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,480
21, and I remember 21 and 22 
distinctly feeling like what 

753
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,080
Etherium had over Solana because
I was in Solana in 21 and 22. 

754
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,640
What Etherium had over Solana 
was this ability to spin up 

755
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,440
these narratives and people just
tweet these kind of stories or 

756
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,040
narratives, and then the capital
will get deployed. 

757
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,520
All of a sudden it's the new 
meta. 

758
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:15,880
And now it's this thing that 
people are making millions of 

759
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,640
dollars on. 
And this same behavior has 

760
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,800
almost entirely shifted, you 
know, over to Solana because 

761
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,320
almost every week there's like a
new meta and it and yes, meme 

762
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,760
coins are definitely like 
leading the way when it comes to

763
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,640
this. 
But even right now, PayPal just 

764
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,600
launched their fucking stable 
coin on Solana. 

765
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,880
This is like a few hours ago. 
And there's also like a meme 

766
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,800
coin. 
That's one thing that's named 

767
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,240
the exact same thing. 
Pretty funny. 

768
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,120
Yeah, I might be in that one. 
I might be in that one. 

769
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,240
I actually. 
Missed that news from this 

770
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,800
morning? 
PayPal Yeah officially goes live

771
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,600
on Solana, enabling swift and 
secure stable coin transactions 

772
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,560
for over 30 million merchants. 
Wow. 

773
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,920
Crazy and so I think the default
is quickly becoming solana and 

774
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,960
you know, we always use all the 
different chains. 

775
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,440
That's why I I fuck with all you
guys. 

776
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,560
Like you guys are actually just 
using this stuff and when you do

777
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:08,720
it, it's hard to say anything 
other than like. 

778
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,520
It is a world of a difference 
today. 

779
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Now phantom getting on base and 
blast and all the L twos. 

780
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,600
This could actually be a big 
difference. 

781
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,440
But for now it's like that 
phantom no low, no to low gas 

782
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,560
with obviously the community. 
It's it's really hard to 

783
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,400
compete. 
Yeah. 

784
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,080
So I think Solana is the winner.
Pumped Off Fun is the winner in 

785
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,360
this scenario. 
Once again. 

786
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,120
It's crazy, man. 
They're just laughing, laughing,

787
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,000
everyone. 
It's crap. 

788
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,600
I mean, it's a great it's my 
Solana bags. 

789
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,080
My, my, my Solana bags are, are 
are definitely packed. 

790
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,600
I'm looking at the timeline 
right now and now I'm seeing the

791
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,720
onsom calling out Soulja Boy. 
So he doesn't just go out late 

792
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:51,560
and like support all the I know 
he's got criticized a lot that 

793
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,040
last couple days. 
So soldiers life, which is why 

794
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,280
there's not many people on our 
on our audio spaces. 

795
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,280
He says not going to hold you, 
bro. 

796
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,800
You have a pretty bad track 
record with launching crypto 

797
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,800
projects that immediately die 
out. 

798
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,440
You're going to have to spend a 
lot of time building back report

799
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,440
here before anyone trusts 
another one of your launches. 

800
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,880
Would recommend using some 
protocol first. 

801
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,160
So you see, you know, he he, you
know, he's not always like, you 

802
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,360
know, you know, on the on the 
side of all celebrities are are 

803
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,400
are bringing positive or and or 
negative attention to the space.

804
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320
So guys, it looks like it's 
going to be it looks like it's 

805
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,240
going to be a whole fucking lot 
of these like back-to-back to 

806
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:31,400
back-to-back to back. 
It looks like this is the big I 

807
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,880
saw ironic. 
I saw that money bag. 

808
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Frank, Am I becoming a boomer? 
No, yeah, money bag. 

809
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
There's actually another one 
too, but there's. 

810
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,680
The panda guy rugged right away.
What's his name? 

811
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Yes designer, he rugged as well.
Right away, stand a coin 

812
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,520
straight to 0. 
There's another one yesterday 

813
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,080
too. 
There's actually two dog face 

814
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,640
which is the guy on tik. 
T.O.K Guy. 

815
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Yeah, the vibe guy saw that and 
another one called Tabercio 

816
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,680
that's like this fucking 
Brazilian guy that has super 

817
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,240
viral Tik toks of like this 
dancing like elf thing and A and

818
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520
a like a oh, a monkey puppet 
that just got like a bunch of 

819
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,680
million. 
He's got like a million 

820
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,760
followers on TikTok. 
Whatever. 

821
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,920
But yeah, he just the way he 
launched it was just he just 

822
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,520
posted a pumped off fun link 
dude on his Twitter never posted

823
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,040
about crypto before. 
Yeah, designer is crazy. 

824
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,320
Yo y'all know the vibes? 
It's the one that only panda 

825
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,240
man. 
He's doing the panda coin on 

826
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,040
Solona. 
Make sure y'all tap in the panda

827
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,800
corner. 
Solona. 

828
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,480
You got the best team, the best 
callers in the state. 

829
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,600
Make sure y'all tap in panda 
coin on Solona. 

830
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,960
Salona designer. 
So is. 

831
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,800
This they're all on, pumped off 
on. 

832
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,040
Yeah, but that one was straight 
to zero. 

833
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,000
And it's so funny because then 
you have money bag saying like, 

834
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,080
yo, like I have the best devs. 
Like they're all like you have 

835
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,320
the best. 
The thing is what most people 

836
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,080
don't understand is like you 
have some of them that straight 

837
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,440
up go this is going to the moon.
I have the best devs, I have the

838
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,160
best team. 
Like this is where it's like 

839
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,920
it's they're fucked. 
At least it looks like there was

840
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,520
a little more thought put out 
towards like the the the Ike 

841
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Azalea one. 
But the other ones is like 

842
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,800
straight up, like we're going to
the moon, like, you know, like 

843
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,720
this doesn't work, actually 
doesn't work. 

844
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,200
Actually, people are more 
sophisticated. 

845
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,320
Even the kids that went last 
cycle and got wrecked and came 

846
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,560
back. 
Now for this book is summer, 

847
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,440
right, Solana? 
Summer people off school, 

848
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:23,840
they're even smarter than they 
were last time around 'cause 

849
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,320
they know the lingo, they know 
the same. 

850
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,440
I I think that's the whole 
narrative of on chain like this 

851
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,240
cycle is people are smarter. 
It's not that many new people. 

852
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,200
It's heavy. 
Clearly there's heavy 

853
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,480
gatekeeping. 
So I think, yeah, people are 

854
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,800
fucking a lot smarter, you know,
these days. 

855
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,360
And so people pick up on this 
lingo really quick. 

856
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,240
Photon, if you think about it 
like photon pumped off fun 

857
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,080
phantom, these things are way 
easier to use than Metamask to 

858
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,840
Uniswap, to fucking DEX tools 
like across the board. 

859
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,760
And so it's not rocket science 
that like at a scale, this stuff

860
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,680
is a lot easier for people to 
pick up. 

861
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,280
There's a friend that's one of 
the guys on our team. 

862
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,840
You guys know Pasta. 
He has a friend in Australia. 

863
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,960
It's crazy. 
Also pastas from the same area 

864
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,400
as Iggy in in Australia. 
It's like this deep part of 

865
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Australia, but he has a friend 
that he told about. 

866
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,080
He just sent him like a photon 
ref link and like yeah, a few I 

867
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,440
think a few months ago and the 
guys like calling him a few a 

868
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,920
week ago, just talking about all
kinds of different kickers. 

869
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,280
He's like all the way in. 
And so the trenches. 

870
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,520
My my meme. 
I tell TG when we hang out all 

871
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,680
the time. 
You know, everyone's talking 

872
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,880
about social fly. 
I I really think this cycle so 

873
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,960
far, the real social fly is, is 
pumped off fun and telegram 

874
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,760
group chats. 
And it sounds crazy, but you 

875
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,880
know, just go on any of these 
big callers like kook, whoever 

876
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,360
it is. 
What you can do is you can click

877
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,880
similar channels and you can see
like there's like dozens, if not

878
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,720
hundreds of these call channels 
on on on Telegram and each of 

879
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,120
them have their own dedicated 
chat. 

880
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,040
And this is all like Solana meme
coins. 

881
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,000
And so why is pumped off fun the
number one revenue, you know, 

882
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,480
product of the year, kind of 
like slept on still in the 

883
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,960
mainstream eat like, you know, 
Bitcoin, whatever, like crypto 

884
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,280
space. 
People don't want to like accept

885
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960
that this might be the reality. 
But here's the best analogy, 

886
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,880
right. 
When Kabuso Kabosu died by the 

887
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,720
dog, some people made replies on
Twitter and some people were 

888
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:20,520
talking about on Twitter. 
Some people went straight to 

889
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,880
pumped off fun and that coin 
went to six million off of a you

890
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,120
know, 5K starting market cap 
though, if you if you got in the

891
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,200
right one. 
And so to a degree, like it's 

892
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,560
highly profitable if you're just
on crypto Twitter all day. 

893
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Just just know how pumped off 
fun works, bro, just like get on

894
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,080
photon. 
Just know how the tools work at 

895
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,600
the minimum, if you might be at 
the right place, the right time 

896
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,800
in some some in this game, like 
being in the right place, the 

897
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,280
right time is fucking nuts. 
So yeah, I think that is like 

898
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,320
the real social fly because 
things happen in the social 

899
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440
sphere. 
So I agree that's happened in 

900
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,200
the social sphere. 
Yeah. 

901
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,920
That's why I. 
Think we pumped up on it's it's 

902
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,840
because I when you talked about 
this on the show before, when 

903
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,080
base carbon like Mert was like 
why is there no social fine? 

904
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,800
Solana would make more sense and
base carbon was like pumped up 

905
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,080
on a social fly and now they 
literally just added video 

906
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,200
streaming. 
They literally yes. 

907
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,800
It's about to get weird, man 
It's I. 

908
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,360
I got so hype when they added 
that, not gonna lie and I went 

909
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,720
to go check it, but all the 
videos are way too glitchy. 

910
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,160
It's just like kind of bad right
now, but the fuck fucking crazy 

911
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,880
idea. 
I I have a hot take on that too.

912
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,680
I think we'll see with live 
streaming and there's actually a

913
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,760
small team that's doing this on 
base right now. 

914
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,160
So I feel bad 'cause there might
get, you know, destroyed by like

915
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,960
the bigger competition, but the 
idea is like a timed meme coins.

916
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,000
And so it's like the meme coin 
gets started when the stream 

917
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,920
goes live and then it actually 
ends and everyone gets cashed 

918
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,440
out at the end of the stream. 
And so it's like, instead of 

919
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,400
having these forever coins, you 
know, people go and make a new 

920
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,080
coin almost like every single 
time that they live stream. 

921
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,880
And it's an interesting concept,
but I do think the, the, the, 

922
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,960
the biggest unsolved mystery 
today, even for all of us 

923
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,720
founders here, is like, what 
does end state look like? 

924
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,000
You know, for a lot of these 
things because they just sit and

925
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,080
live on the blockchain forever. 
And they're probably all going 

926
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,640
to be 0. 
And some ghost liquidity bots 

927
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,360
are just like turning those 
things to not go to like literal

928
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,160
0. 
But the idea of having timed 

929
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,840
coins is, I think, kind of 
interesting. 

930
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480
We haven't seen it work at a big
scale yet, but I wonder if 

931
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,960
that's the direction that 
they're going in. 

932
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,520
I'm really interested. 
I do think the speculation and 

933
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,520
the the fucking adrenaline that 
you get from just trading meme 

934
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,160
coins is unmatched in honestly 
in in the rest of crypto and 

935
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,560
that's a very addictive thing. 
So I could see that getting 

936
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,760
bigger. 
Hopefully it gets more. 

937
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,320
It's kind of the crash game, but
it's kind of the crash game. 

938
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,200
Yes, yes, it's very, it's like 
yes, yes, exactly. 

939
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,880
I think it would be like very 
similar to that on the. 

940
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,040
Streaming stuff also on 
Orbitrum, that's Sanko Sanko TV 

941
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,040
that that's been actually doing 
pretty well. 

942
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,080
It went fully live like the 
other day again, right? 

943
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,200
But oh, what's that? 
Oh, this is alpha tell. 

944
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,920
Me. 
You will like you, would you? 

945
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,680
I think you would like Sanko. 
It's it's been. 

946
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,240
Gone for a while like. 
It's a streaming platform. 

947
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,080
It's just sent it to. 
It's a very interesting one 

948
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,600
actually. 
I've been kind of from afar, 

949
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,400
like looking at what what's up 
and I think they fully went live

950
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,480
like not long ago. 
But that's an interesting one as

951
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,240
well. 
I just like the UI and 

952
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,240
everything. 
It's going to be like, look, all

953
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,320
roads like this is Sunko. 
It's like super cool. 

954
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Toys. 
Got it, Got it. 

955
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Yeah, exactly. 
But you know what's interesting,

956
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,160
all roads once again just lead 
back to media and distribution, 

957
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,840
like people just creating 
content and then attention and 

958
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,800
then they're trading that 
attention based on coins. 

959
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Like I, I, you know, I know Luca
put that out and and Anseb 

960
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,360
talked about it too. 
Like social tokens are this 

961
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,760
cycle saying we have been saying
this for a while now though. 

962
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,600
So I don't know if like social 
tokens is the narrative it's. 

963
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Kind of like that's like the VC 
coded term. 

964
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,120
I think social tokens, I think 
they're all attention to this is

965
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,360
actually the bigger story of the
whole cycle, right? 

966
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,200
It's like will Pepe just flip 
Polygon and it's like. 

967
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,960
Every single NFT. 
Yeah, yeah, Oh my, that's a long

968
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,160
time ago, bro. 
Like that's a yeah, yeah, very 

969
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,960
long time ago. 
But yeah, it's like, you know, 

970
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,760
Pepe flips Polygon and it kind 
of and and with obviously 

971
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,160
arbitrary. 
That was the first really big 

972
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,200
story around this. 
What kind of begs the question 

973
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,360
of well, you know, who's like 
when you know, the joke when 

974
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,000
people snipe, obviously not a 
joke, but like when people snipe

975
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,880
the fucking, you know, coin 
right when it comes out, people 

976
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,200
are making the comparison of 
that to, you know, VCs that just

977
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,080
like slow float, you know, dump 
on every single on every single 

978
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,560
unlock, which arguably is like 
not the egalitarian quote UN 

979
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,520
quote way to do it. 
This is like a very extreme 

980
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,120
take, but maybe that's the 
direction things are going where

981
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,240
things are actually very much 
more on chain and we distill out

982
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:42,320
all the complexity and they are 
all just attention tokens. 

983
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,480
And the best sign of an L1 or L2
is how much attention do they 

984
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080
garner? 
How many popular coins or you 

985
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,960
know, NFTS or whatever on chain 
games do they have on their 

986
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,720
platform? 
Which I think is actually like a

987
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,400
logical take. 
You know, if you're just using 

988
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,120
this thing all day, but it I 
think it's hard to get funding 

989
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,600
and resources with just the pure
like my, you know, my counter to

990
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,600
the extreme take is like, it's 
hard to get funding and 

991
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,440
resources to build cool things 
over the long term if you're 

992
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,880
being traded like a fucking meme
coin from day one. 

993
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,320
Fair. 
But this is where I think things

994
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,120
will get more sophisticated, 
just like they did with NFTS, 

995
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,320
where people will do more. 
This is actually a really hot 

996
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,640
take. 
People are shitting on the 

997
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,840
presale meta. 
They don't want to accept that 

998
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,920
this might actually be the case 
more, you know, going into the 

999
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,200
future where people get spend 
more time building their 

1000
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,400
community before launching the 
coin with the idea of launching 

1001
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,400
the coin in in itself and 
actually do whitelists. 

1002
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,160
And you know, like, remember 
grinding for whitelist. 

1003
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,400
Imagine grinding for whitelist, 
but now instead of an NFT, it 

1004
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,440
might be for a coin and raising 
that initial capital. 

1005
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,360
But the people that you've 
whitelisted in theory are less 

1006
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,840
likely to be pure jeets like 
the, you know, sending to the 

1007
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,600
wallet immediately, you know, 
and then, hey, when the fuck 

1008
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,320
does this thing drop type of 
type of vibe, which is exactly 

1009
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,040
what happened to NFTS. 
And so I, I think the, the take 

1010
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,080
of meme coins being like this 
cycles NFTS, but potentially 

1011
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,360
with larger market size, cause 
the number of people that can 

1012
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,000
buy an NFT is in the few 
expensive one is a few million 

1013
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,880
people in the world. 
Number of people that can buy a 

1014
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,280
meme coin is 8 billion people. 
And so again, I think the game 

1015
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,040
is evolving and shifting in a 
pretty dramatic way. 

1016
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,000
And yeah, like, I'm glad, I'm 
glad. 

1017
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,480
It feels like all the cool guys 
are at the very least like 

1018
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,800
paying attention to it. 
I'm really proud of you, man. 

1019
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,360
Honestly, dropping this coin 
like I I hold, I hold some, I 

1020
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,480
wanna let's. 
Go Doctor Busch. 

1021
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,040
It's been sick to follow the 
journey and I don't think you 

1022
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,080
get enough credit for just like 
it takes some balls and so I 

1023
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160
just like respect that honestly,
'cause it's like it's people are

1024
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,640
intense. 
Did. 

1025
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,200
That. 
I agree with all. 

1026
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,320
That. 
Yeah, man, like it's tough. 

1027
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,160
That's why I think like even now
the top, top top pumped up fun 

1028
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,280
coins like they're not really 
that high, right? 

1029
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:01,080
Like and to get to get and stay 
above like 20 it takes a lot 

1030
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,040
like these things when they 
pension. 

1031
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,240
A20 is a big barrier. 
Big barrier. 

1032
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,000
Because it's like, you can just 
do another coin, right? 

1033
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,640
Like there's always another 
coin. 

1034
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,320
These, these, these meme coin 
callers, in those chats, they're

1035
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,880
not talking about old coins, 
they're talking about new ones. 

1036
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,720
So in that environment where you
can churn that quickly, yeah, 

1037
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,360
people don't really stick around
often for that long. 

1038
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,640
So that's why I think it's tough
to imagine that these coins 

1039
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,640
stick around because it requires
an insane amount of like, 

1040
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,560
dedication and like new things, 
innovative stuff, and also just 

1041
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,520
like, I know, feel organic at 
the same time, which I think a 

1042
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,680
lot of these people won't feel. 
So I think it's going to be 

1043
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,600
difficult. 
Very hard and I I think what do 

1044
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,280
you think about people launching
multiple coins? 

1045
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,040
This is where it gets very like,
it's very fucking wild, but 

1046
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,440
like, I do think I'm. 
Like well. 

1047
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,160
You know, if you've spoken about
this before, like the idea of 

1048
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,720
having coins with a finite life,
because the one of the worst 

1049
00:50:57,720 --> 00:50:59,920
things and, and NFTS, right, 
like one of the worst things 

1050
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,600
about crypto is that you can 
sometimes get caught, 

1051
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,360
particularly around utility 
stuff, like with an unlimited 

1052
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,720
liability on something, which 
you know, it, it shouldn't, you 

1053
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:15,000
know, once it drifts away from 
you or like you, you start a 

1054
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,400
start up with a coin and then it
just kind of moves away. 

1055
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,800
Like there should be some sort 
of like, right, we're going to 

1056
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,320
end and then we're going to do 
something else. 

1057
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,960
And part of even our journey, 
right? 

1058
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,280
Like we've, we've kind of caught
other things. 

1059
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,240
We've managed to kind of keep 
them going by like giving them 

1060
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,240
free mints to a new thing or 
something like that. 

1061
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,280
But I do think it would be, it 
would be smart to have that, 

1062
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960
that sort of a concept. 
So I do like, I like what what 

1063
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,680
you said about that because I 
think that would be not a bad, 

1064
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,960
bad idea. 
Coins upon coins upon coins. 

1065
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,480
Like I can imagine stream is 
doing it, but I obviously I 

1066
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,880
think you lose credibility 
because it just doesn't make 

1067
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,120
sense if you're if you're trying
to do multiple, multiple things.

1068
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,120
It's, it's a really touchy 
subject. 

1069
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,440
It's a, it's a touchy subject 
because obviously like you can 

1070
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,840
just imagine like the chart 
getting nude, all the guys 

1071
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,160
focusing on the next coin, 
etcetera. 

1072
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,680
But I, I do think whenever 
there's something that feels 

1073
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,440
really touchy, there's usually 
like signal there because I 

1074
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,880
think that the people like want 
infinite upside. 

1075
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,360
This is like the meme, right? 
People want infinite upside. 

1076
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,760
And so even getting whitelist or
discounted rates or whatever, 

1077
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,520
the kind of things you see in 
the VC world in the private 

1078
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,200
sales, I think we'll get 
replicated in public versions 

1079
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,720
and like on chain over time. 
And so one of the most 

1080
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:28,240
interesting stories in meme 
coins this year, I think that's 

1081
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:32,680
kind of slept on is pack moon. 
I know everyone here is big fans

1082
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,240
myself as well. 
And Lambo, I think is whether 

1083
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:40,120
it's intentional or not, is kind
of innovating on this whole FDV 

1084
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,800
floats concept because there's 
actually still a lot of the 

1085
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,960
supply that they hold. 
But they do it in a very smart 

1086
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,120
way with these seasons, where 
ideally each season and every 

1087
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,880
time they do this AirDrop, it 
actually increases the demand, 

1088
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,080
you know, for the coin in the 
creative ways in which they 

1089
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,960
distribute out percentage of the
token. 

1090
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,160
So instead of doing like a 
linear vest unlock, they're 

1091
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,800
actually constantly expanding, 
you know, the reach of the coin 

1092
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,320
itself, which I I think, you 
know, there might be innovating 

1093
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,040
in a very like impactful and 
significant way if it if it 

1094
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,000
plays out now that's like the 
big test study because it's very

1095
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,880
different from pumped up fun. 
It's very different from the 

1096
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,800
stuff that's hot right now. 
But that is where, you know, 

1097
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,840
Mando, I think it could get, you
know, very interesting around 

1098
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,960
not not necessarily launching 
multiple coins, but creating a 

1099
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,560
much longer lifespan. 
Yeah, many more shots on goal. 

1100
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,960
Yeah. 
We're so back. 

1101
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,320
I mean, if you look at the right
side of the stream, here are the

1102
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,720
comments like everyone's trying 
to show us different takers. 

1103
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:38,960
Everyone's trying to. 
There was a time where there was

1104
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,400
no comments a year and a half. 
There was no comments even for 

1105
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,160
us like hosting daily big 
audiences all it was all we menu

1106
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,800
and I rock radio big. 
There was no audience. 

1107
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,200
There was no comments. 
You know what I mean? 

1108
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,960
And now it's like takers like 
I'm looking at the fucking 

1109
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,760
thing. 
Oh my Lord, we are so. 

1110
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Looking back. 
But you know what? 

1111
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,200
That. 
Was in the bear market. 

1112
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,360
Yeah, exactly. 
Look, I know we're on time. 

1113
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,520
I I do think that there's a 
longer conversation to be had. 

1114
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,880
Obviously, of course Frank 
stirred the pot around VCs and 

1115
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,560
and meme coins. 
I'd like to separate them 

1116
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,000
because you do need sometimes 
like it's a longer term thing. 

1117
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,680
I do agree like when like on 
someone's went back and forth 

1118
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,400
with Rhino and Evan. 
I think Rhino and Evan made 

1119
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,080
better points in the sense that 
like these top 10 coins, yes, 

1120
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,280
sure they'll go down 80 percent,
70% because of bear market, but 

1121
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,240
they'll come back. 
A lot of these meme coins will 

1122
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:32,600
go down 90%, then another 90%, 
then another 90%, another, and 

1123
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,040
then you're done. 
And then the person is. 

1124
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,360
Gone. 
Sometimes it's 5 minutes. 

1125
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,200
It's 5 minutes. 
Every time. 

1126
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,360
I bought a pump on token 
yesterday, the thing made it 

1127
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,960
out, pumped up on 5 minutes 
later, gone. 

1128
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,280
Yeah. 
It was fun though. 

1129
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,920
I loved getting rugged getting 
oh, I bought the wrong Iggy 

1130
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,760
token for a moment on pump as 
well and I got rugged too. 

1131
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,200
So like it was, but it was 
great. 

1132
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,680
It felt good, yeah. 
I don't know, I think I bought 

1133
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,920
like seven of the wrong Iggy 
tokens, not going to lie. 

1134
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,800
But you know, I think there's a 
conversation to be had there as 

1135
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,080
well at some point where it's 
like this, it's not this or 

1136
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,760
that, it's this and that. 
Like there's the for degenerates

1137
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,880
to go and gamble or like there's
a Montreal, I'm in Montreal, 

1138
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,440
there's a casino. 
The sure, it's packed, people 

1139
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,960
playing blackjack, Goulet craps,
all the slots. 

1140
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,840
That's the fucking Iggazalea 
Caitlyn Jenner acquines. 

1141
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,400
But then there's also people 
across the street working at a 

1142
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,680
bank and or Angel investing in 
companies that have a longer 10 

1143
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,320
year horizon on things they want
to invest in. 

1144
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,720
So it's just that in on Twitter,
we're all in one basket. 

1145
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:31,560
We're in the same spot talking 
about the same thing. 

1146
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,760
It's a pocket. 
It's not like a Reddit where 

1147
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,200
everybody's like secluded, you 
know, that's all. 

1148
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,840
I everyone's in the same. 
It's Frank it. 

1149
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,840
Was great speaking to you. 
I've got to. 

1150
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,600
I've got to run. 
I don't. 

1151
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,880
Have to go ahead, I know, go 
ahead. 

1152
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,960
That was the one absolute. 
Pleasure. 

1153
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,440
Man legend. 
But I just think that was that, 

1154
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,400
you know, I know, I know the 
take Frank May may may piss off 

1155
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,280
a lot of people, but I think 
that it's just like it's both. 

1156
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,480
It's not fuck the VCs and it's 
not just like, oh, fuck these 

1157
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,240
people. 
It's just like the industry's 

1158
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:00,080
growing like, you know, you have
Trump fucking talking about 

1159
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,560
Krypton TV. 
Obviously, it's going to be both

1160
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,320
sides. 
It's gonna be actually, it's 

1161
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,720
gonna attract also better and 
smart investors as well, Like 

1162
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:08,120
we're gonna get better VCs, 
better angels, better. 

1163
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,440
I think it's the curve, man. 
I think it's like I started to 

1164
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,080
visualize everything as the left
and right curve and the bell 

1165
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,840
curve. 
And I do think to your point, 

1166
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,640
like perhaps maybe now every 
infrastructure project doesn't 

1167
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:23,040
need to fucking have a crazy 
token, you know, where they may 

1168
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,360
not need to. 
And and on chain, it can get 

1169
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,800
even more wide and there could 
be a lot, a lot more different 

1170
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,880
types of coins. 
And I think whether people like 

1171
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,040
it or not, if you want new 
people in, you know, you want 

1172
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,720
people that have influence and 
people that have influence will 

1173
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:40,040
create things, not just 
participate. 

1174
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,600
And so it's a very tough pill 
for people to swallow. 

1175
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,520
But the criticism of people like
launching things, you know, to 

1176
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,880
enter the space. 
It's kind of like ask this might

1177
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,440
be a fun, I might tweet this 
afterwards. 

1178
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,280
It's kind of like asking, you 
know, fucking Playboy Cardi to 

1179
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,120
start commenting on YouTube 
fucking music videos before 

1180
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,320
dropping his like owner. 
It's like, it's like, bro, you 

1181
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,400
know, what do you expect? 
These people are like fucking 

1182
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,480
kings of their own life. 
They're probably not going to, 

1183
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,200
you know, participate in the 
same way. 

1184
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,320
And arguably like they're not 
going to bring in a new audience

1185
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,040
if that's all that they do. 
They're just going to circle 

1186
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,960
jerk us. 
So I think that the road towards

1187
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,200
the mythical mass adoption will 
look extremely messy. 

1188
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,600
And the best tool kit that 
anyone can have is just being 

1189
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,960
calm and observing it and not, 
you know, being overly reactive 

1190
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,280
over it. 
Like, do I care if people bought

1191
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,840
the fucking Iggy coin or Jenner 
or whatever? 

1192
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Like, no, dude, have fun. 
Like you're, you're free to do 

1193
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,160
whatever you want to. 
I mean, I hope, I wish my limit 

1194
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,880
hit. 
I wish my limit order hit 

1195
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,480
though, but yeah. 
It's people will buy anything. 

1196
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,480
I mean, Tyler, you're always 
commenting on like these coins 

1197
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,040
going up a ton or down a ton. 
Like, people buy stuff all the 

1198
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,640
time. 
I think Frank makes a good 

1199
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,520
point. 
Just just be calm, watch things 

1200
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,240
happen, and choose like where 
you want to participate. 

1201
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,760
There's levels you don't have to
play pumped up fun coins. 

1202
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,160
You could just go buy an L2 and 
just stack your bags of an L2 

1203
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,880
and chill like you can also do 
that. 

1204
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,120
I mean, Peter Jennings, founder 
of several companies, he's, he's

1205
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,960
buying Trump on 8th because he 
wants exposure to the political 

1206
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,600
mean points. 
Like they're a clear leader, 

1207
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,400
right? 
Like there's, there's, there are

1208
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,160
serious people who are making 
plays on these tokens and you 

1209
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,720
can wait and catch the ones who 
have made it past a certain 

1210
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,720
point so that you don't have the
like this is going to go to 0 

1211
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,760
in, in the next 5 minutes, which
is like the pumped up fun crash 

1212
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,680
game, right? 
So there there's levels to this.

1213
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,720
On the Trump thing, I I can say 
this at the event, OK, I'm not 

1214
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,520
going to say obviously who, but 
there's someone in that kind of 

1215
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,760
circle that definitely owns like
Boden. 

1216
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,080
We were talking about it and 
it's not, it's not anyone like 

1217
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,960
in the White House, whatever, 
but it's someone like those 

1218
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,000
family friends that we were 
talking for like 20 minutes and 

1219
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,040
we were talking about Trent and 
fucking voting. 

1220
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,600
And he was just like, yeah, I 
got in on voting. 

1221
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,280
I think this whole meme coin 
thing is gonna be big, etc. 

1222
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,880
I was like, damn, this is kind 
of crazy because the guy, he's 

1223
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,560
like owner of the sports team. 
He was like part owner of some 

1224
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,600
fucking pretty big basketball 
team, invested in the new Elon 

1225
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,120
company or whatever, and we had 
like a 15 minute conversation 

1226
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,680
about IS. 
It like older like was it? 

1227
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,560
I don't. 
Want you to talk actually like, 

1228
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,920
no, actually like mid, like 
probably late 20s, early 30s, 

1229
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,040
like not that old, but just 
like, you know, fucking. 

1230
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,440
He reminded me of like the 
character from Succession, like,

1231
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,480
you know, like the show or it's 
just like clearly bro, bro, 

1232
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,120
yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Rosen those trenches type shit, 

1233
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,800
like family fucking oligarch 
type shit. 

1234
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,440
And he was talking about fucking
Trent Boden Solana meme coins. 

1235
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,960
Boom. 
I think he was, that was the 

1236
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,640
one. 
He was like, yeah, I missed 

1237
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,040
something. 
Boom. 

1238
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,280
I'm like, dog, what is this 
conversation? 

1239
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,120
There's a lot, I think a lot 
more people actually follow 

1240
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,280
what's happening on X than 
people think or no. 

1241
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,880
Like that's why like you get 
high views, low likes. 

1242
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,680
It's not like I think a lot of 
people actually like pay very 

1243
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,000
close attention to these. 
That's, I mean, that's one of 

1244
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,600
the crypt side. 
Like some of our writers just 

1245
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,400
focused on the culture stuff. 
You have the writers that will 

1246
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,440
write about PYUSD and Solana or 
like about. 

1247
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,640
Dude, how has that been by the 
way of the talk man, how has 

1248
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,600
this fucking decripping I I 
actually think that the the turn

1249
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,960
around is visible. 
I'm not just glazing like it's 

1250
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,320
it's it's sick. 
I'm starting to see the vision 

1251
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,800
but how is that process bin of 
like fucking doing this news 

1252
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,320
media thing right? 
It's been, it's been, it's been 

1253
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,120
crazy because I'm an I like, we 
like, you know, like founding 

1254
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,720
rock radio like came out of like
Twitter spaces for fun. 

1255
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,360
Didn't expect two years later. 
It was under two years, 23 

1256
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,920
months later to merge with like 
one of the actually the second 

1257
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,840
largest media centralized media 
company in the industry in terms

1258
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,560
of traffic that we now run and 
and operate as well. 

1259
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,640
So it's it's been it's been 
quite a movie, honestly, I've 

1260
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,280
had to learn a lot and I've had 
to also like change a lot of the

1261
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,240
ways, right, like operate 
differently. 

1262
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,920
For example, last night, you 
know, I'm not on stage. 

1263
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,640
I'm anonymously listening, you 
know, like it's yes, I listen to

1264
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,720
the whole thing by the way, top 
down. 

1265
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,400
But it's been honestly very 
interesting to see also what 

1266
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,720
proper and real ethical 
journalism is like, because like

1267
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,040
we're in the creator business, 
right? 

1268
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:05,200
You and me, Tyler Mando, Rugrid 
at its core, TG Mika, like all 

1269
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,480
the Rugrid like 80 plus. 
Like we're creators, so we 

1270
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,920
create content every day, but 
we're not journalists, right? 

1271
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,320
But then when you look at how a 
journalist like how our EIC 

1272
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,120
Guillermo operates with like 
professional writers, the thick 

1273
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,280
line that's drawn behind between
the commercial team and the 

1274
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,760
journalist or even me and the 
journalist, I don't tell, I 

1275
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,280
can't tell the journalist what 
to write about. 

1276
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,720
They wrote about you. 
It's nothing to do with me, 

1277
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,440
right? 
The rubbish. 

1278
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,840
Because like you guys went viral
over this story and Erica Lee is

1279
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,240
more in the trenches, right? 
So she'll write about that and 

1280
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,280
then, you know, an editor like 
Andrew Hayward will edit it. 

1281
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,320
So it's, it's very interesting. 
But now, you know, what we have 

1282
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,680
coming up is going to is going 
to, it's going to be interesting

1283
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,160
because now we have a whole 
social 5 component to it coming 

1284
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,800
live soon over the summer. 
And it ties up both rug radio 

1285
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,160
and its craters and the 
Krypton's traffic. 

1286
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,880
So, you know, way near like 100 
million, you know, views. 

1287
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,760
I'm looking forward to 
retweeting my tweet, man. 

1288
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,720
I, I made the public call. 
I'm like, dude, I think people 

1289
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,000
are sleeping. 
There's a lot of stories. 

1290
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,280
It's too busy the timeline, but 
there's a lot of stories when 

1291
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,440
you slept on. 
But I think the way you guys are

1292
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,880
moving, I'm not just glazing. 
Seriously, like it's sick. 

1293
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,320
I like Erica's stories, like I 
like the headlines. 

1294
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,800
I go on. 
I actually underrated for people

1295
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,640
in the audience. 
The thing I like a lot to keep 

1296
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,840
up to date is I sub to the 
Telegram channel, 'cause I'm 

1297
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,120
always in Telegram now. 
And so I sub to the Telegram 

1298
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,640
channel where it just posts like
your news stories all the time. 

1299
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,240
And so it's actually really 
nice, like oh, 'cause usually 

1300
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,840
it's stuff that I'm not going to
see on my timeline. 

1301
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,000
It's like, oh, this fundraising 
thing or this fucking Defy hack 

1302
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,040
or whatever. 
Yeah. 

1303
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,280
And so it's been actually pretty
fucking helpful, man. 

1304
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,560
I like that. 
We, we all, everyone on my team 

1305
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,840
kind of has that sub on. 
Yeah, yeah, it's fun. 

1306
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,240
And you know, the cool thing is 
we have like scene, we have D 

1307
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,920
Gen. 
Alley, we have, you know, GG. 

1308
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,000
So you have all these different 
pockets of the crypt, but it's 

1309
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,520
been it's been a lot because 
first you have to restructure 

1310
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,520
and structure. 
So we're what, five months in 

1311
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,760
now, almost six months in June 
since the merger. 

1312
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,840
And I feel like it's only been a
month since it's like we've 

1313
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,400
really like found the the 
groove. 

1314
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,160
It took like four or five months
to properly like get get this 

1315
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,200
thing up and going and just 
like, and just grow. 

1316
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,880
So I can focus on different 
things such as, you know, 

1317
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,640
getting Tyler to host with us, 
but stuff like that. 

1318
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,120
But you'll, you'll see. 
I mean, I'll reach out, you 

1319
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,880
know, we'll, we'll, we'll 
involve the D gods and and 

1320
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,160
what's coming up next? 
We can involve every community. 

1321
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,880
So it's it's very just. 
The D gods. 

1322
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,160
Just the D gods. 
Just D gods, not the youths. 

1323
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,800
You know what, though, I have to
say like I the the more you've 

1324
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,000
been, the more the more you've 
been calling for them to go 

1325
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,280
lower, the more I'm down to just
rip AD God on Solano. 

1326
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,880
I would do it on solo, not on 
ETH, I feel. 

1327
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,840
But but I'm just waiting. 
You said let it go lower, so I'm

1328
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,240
I'm waiting for them to go 
lower. 

1329
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,480
You know, it's the whole thing 
too. 

1330
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,600
That's crazy bro. 
Saved America type shit. 

1331
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,760
It was crazy, yeah. 
That was fun. 

1332
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,160
Anyways, this is great all 
right, It's a. 

1333
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,480
Pleasure man, thanks for having.
Me thanks for coming on. 

1334
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,960
I don't think you slept last 
night so. 

1335
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,440
No, I'm still awake. 
He's. 

1336
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Still, it's 8:00 AM for. 
You. 

1337
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,600
He's in the in the Twitter reply
trenches, man. 

1338
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,720
Defending fucking. 
I love it. 

1339
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,280
Defending the future of meme 
coins right now, but I love it. 

1340
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,920
Yeah, do you do? 
I listen, I, I like it. 

1341
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,880
I'm, you know, my, the boys know
I'm, I'm a frontline, you know, 

1342
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,200
soldier when it comes to being 
in the trenches on top of 

1343
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,520
building what we're building. 
Yes, you are. 

1344
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,440
Love it. 
And so is Tyler, and so is 

1345
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,360
everybody else. 
So anyways, thank you, Frank. 

1346
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,880
Shout to Mendel who had to go. 
Shout to Tyler. 

1347
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,280
And with that, with that, with 
that, we'll see y'all tomorrow 

1348
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,440
morning, 10:00 AM Eastern 
Standard Time for another 

1349
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,480
episode of FOMO Hour on Rug 
Radio. 

1350
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,880
Let's go.