1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:02,510 Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,690 Good morning. Good morning. 3 00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:15,690 G MG Yeah UMM Tuesday, October 3rd 2023. 4 00:00:15,740 --> 00:00:20,150 Look at that. Another beautiful day to have a 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,560 beautiful day. The sun is shining ish every 6 00:00:25,570 --> 00:00:28,800 like other hour in London, United Kingdom. 7 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:30,760 But you see mine. I told you, I kind of bring the 8 00:00:30,770 --> 00:00:32,189 sunshine to London every time I'm here. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,640 It was kind of nice today. It was. 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,190 Is the poor. It wasn't pouring in, Mayfair, 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,610 baby. Sorry, man. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,330 Maybe it's just different, you know? 13 00:00:41,930 --> 00:00:48,440 I got my wonderful Co hosts in the house, OSPF Mando. 14 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:53,440 How are my lads doing? Doing great, man. 15 00:00:53,450 --> 00:00:54,920 How are you? Fantastic, bro. 16 00:00:54,930 --> 00:00:57,430 I'm home, honey. I'm home. 17 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:59,970 You know, I love it out here. I just went to knack. 18 00:00:59,980 --> 00:01:02,810 I just had to stick a probe with the chips, you know? 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,910 And it felt good. Best in the world, some say. 20 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:08,580 London. Yeah. 21 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:10,400 It's one of the best it's it is one of the best. 22 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:12,180 Top five. Ohh, I'll give you that. 23 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:17,340 I I have a trouble giving one. Hmm. 24 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:21,490 I it's hard to fight it but for top five for me. 25 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:22,780 But top three is hard to fight it. 26 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,460 Now if you push the top one, I'll fight that. 27 00:01:24,470 --> 00:01:28,500 But I think, I think top five like it's it's honestly like I 28 00:01:28,510 --> 00:01:31,400 love this place, right. It's just so nice and honestly 29 00:01:31,530 --> 00:01:34,200 if I could just like have a neck confusion in my veins all day 30 00:01:34,210 --> 00:01:37,440 every day, I would do it. God damn, I place so good that 31 00:01:37,450 --> 00:01:41,740 cookie is there's nothing Next there's nothing, nothing bar and 32 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:43,800 on you know nothing that can beat this one. 33 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:47,900 So it is pretty good. Next is saying Max is we were 34 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:49,220 meant to meet for the first time. 35 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:51,020 What's your What's your top three? 36 00:01:52,330 --> 00:01:55,680 I would say it depends from what perspective, Like is it the 37 00:01:55,690 --> 00:01:57,730 perspective of living there or just? 38 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:01,140 Like to visit? I think to visit to visit is 39 00:02:01,150 --> 00:02:02,880 different than living, right? Yeah, because I see. 40 00:02:02,890 --> 00:02:05,450 Like, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say London is like the most 41 00:02:05,460 --> 00:02:08,090 amazing place to visit, but I think it's an amazing place to 42 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:11,080 live. But to visit I would say like. 43 00:02:12,450 --> 00:02:14,280 NYC, I think it's amazing to visit. 44 00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:19,200 Was amazing to visit. Is it still amazing to visit now 45 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:20,290 inside? I don't know. 46 00:02:21,230 --> 00:02:26,650 Umm, Tokyo Defile Tokyo, I guess on my list, I feel like it's 47 00:02:26,660 --> 00:02:28,410 gonna be covered. Top three for me, I agree it's. 48 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:33,460 Incredible. And then Montreal. 49 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:36,080 Just kidding. Visit. 50 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:38,960 I would say Harris is possible, yes. 51 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:43,390 Up there. I would say Cape Town Cape. 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,350 That's awesome. I would really recommend going 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,250 there. Tokyo's really cool. 54 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:50,840 I would say Tokyo. Definitely. 55 00:02:51,730 --> 00:02:54,880 Um. Maybe Rio Rio. 56 00:02:54,890 --> 00:02:57,550 Something. Yeah, yeah, it's weird the 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,060 visiting, but you guys have also visited much more like cities 58 00:03:00,070 --> 00:03:02,860 and like countries. And I have, but it's, I don't 59 00:03:02,870 --> 00:03:05,160 know, man, like living for me. Like I live in Paris, like 60 00:03:05,170 --> 00:03:08,840 tomorrow, Like I straight up. Like I go live in France, like 61 00:03:08,850 --> 00:03:10,440 in London. I find it's just as good 62 00:03:10,450 --> 00:03:14,470 visiting or living. It's just expensive, you know, 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,850 like this. The cities in Europe are getting 64 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:18,930 also, the Canadian dollars are getting so weak. 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,870 The Canadian dollar, Vanessa pointed out to me, is on par 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,090 with the Singaporean dollar. The Korean won and a bunch of 67 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:30,230 others almost. And I'm here like, yo, what am I 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,340 doing? That thing is literally like 69 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:37,600 shit going out. Like it's 1.51.55 to the Swiss 70 00:03:37,610 --> 00:03:43,090 franc and 1.66 to the pound I mean and this 1.37 this morning 71 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:44,660 to the USD. I was looking this morning I'm 72 00:03:44,670 --> 00:03:46,640 like thank God my income is in U.S. dollars. 73 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:49,430 I'd be so wrecked. Like it's like you know what I 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,290 mean Like if I didn't make money in U.S. dollars I don't shit 75 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:56,910 would be expensive for me man. Like geez, it's crazy. 76 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,230 But yeah it's tough. I do think that like I do think 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,400 that that like Canada also is a great place to live though if 78 00:04:02,410 --> 00:04:05,910 you think living like you think security, lifestyle raising 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,230 kids, like I do mean it. Like Montreal should be like a 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,190 top. Maybe not top. 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,740 They would be a top ten type city because like for that's why 82 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:13,320 my family there right. Like living. 83 00:04:13,370 --> 00:04:15,700 Like security. Like I I don't feel like secure. 84 00:04:15,710 --> 00:04:18,180 Dude, I I watched my 6:00 every other minute here shopping. 85 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:21,260 I'm like holding carrying out my shopping bags like hoping 86 00:04:21,269 --> 00:04:23,080 someone's gonna snag them off a moped. 87 00:04:23,150 --> 00:04:27,980 Anyways so today on the show today today we got some topics 88 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:30,940 for you and some guests for your As usual we're going to have the 89 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:33,940 market talk and the grayscale news proof and Chainalysis 90 00:04:33,950 --> 00:04:36,520 cutting staff members. As you've seen all over the time 91 00:04:36,530 --> 00:04:41,300 now, Elon Musk live streaming Diablo and revealing his alt 92 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:43,710 account. Accidentally or not, I don't 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,770 really. I didn't know if it was an 94 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:48,310 accident or not. And then SIM swaps on the rise 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,980 on friend tech got some few people getting SIM stop and 96 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:55,200 their whole keys, you know, getting drained and whatnot. 97 00:04:55,210 --> 00:04:58,670 And then we'll be joined by the Zibo team to talk about a Zebu 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Live, which conference taking place in London this week on 99 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:03,050 Thursday and Friday. The boys now will be live on 100 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:05,660 stage on Friday. And of course, I mean Ovi. 101 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,110 I saw your tweet just now before coming on stage. 102 00:05:08,180 --> 00:05:11,550 The Saatchi Gallery will be joined by Greed up who created 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,700 an unbelievable event at Saturday. 104 00:05:13,710 --> 00:05:16,660 I mean Sachi, Sachi I think speaks for itself but all that 105 00:05:16,670 --> 00:05:19,580 kind of ovie present that one of my guests that but we'll be 106 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:22,540 there as well. But this one on Thursday. 107 00:05:22,630 --> 00:05:27,260 And of course as usual this show is powered by cracking. 108 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:31,750 So if you go to kraken.com/rug radio and to show us the 109 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,150 luscious to support the big shout out to the fans. 110 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,500 But anyways when we get started, I mean I was with medal 111 00:05:37,510 --> 00:05:42,400 yesterday we had a we had a few longs on and then Mando do you 112 00:05:42,410 --> 00:05:44,740 mind checking those charts and just to be sure he's like yeah 113 00:05:44,750 --> 00:05:50,250 let's cut it. Kids do not 5 seconds later the 114 00:05:50,260 --> 00:05:56,290 whole market or it was like 5 seconds went and then we went 115 00:05:56,300 --> 00:06:02,250 less fire Papa and then went there was October and it was 116 00:06:02,260 --> 00:06:04,870 October. It gave a message though what's 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,060 happening what what's up with the grass can you know you guys 118 00:06:07,070 --> 00:06:09,580 chatted also back and forth in the group chat last night again 119 00:06:09,650 --> 00:06:12,980 regarding regarding all this. So give us a TLDR here on the 120 00:06:12,990 --> 00:06:17,520 marketing Grayscale. Yeah, it's I don't know about 121 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:19,360 grayscale. Grayscale news is actually 122 00:06:19,370 --> 00:06:21,040 pretty low. I think they are going to 123 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:26,560 convert their their their ETF to sort of their trust to an ETF. 124 00:06:26,810 --> 00:06:30,080 I think that's kind of expected if they're gonna do that with 125 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:33,880 Bitcoin one as well. The main thing is we're going to 126 00:06:33,890 --> 00:06:36,320 find out middle of this month if they. 127 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:40,430 It's going to feel that the reason why that's important is 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:46,750 because the appeal is against the idea of manipulation or 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,230 market monitoring that the SEC took against Grayscale. 130 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:56,450 If they don't appeal, they basically admit that the main 131 00:06:56,660 --> 00:07:01,930 stick that they've been beating all the ETFs back from actually 132 00:07:01,940 --> 00:07:04,440 succeeding, they can't use that anymore. 133 00:07:04,450 --> 00:07:06,610 So they're gonna have to come up with some new reason, 134 00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:10,850 essentially to. Seemingly block V ETFs, so 135 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:13,980 people are saying that's going to be a lot more difficult and 136 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:16,110 that's the reason why it's still quite a big event, this 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,700 grayscale thing. The ECS won't come live till 138 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:23,640 January, so that's kind of that's what ISF said yesterday. 139 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,700 But the important thing is that they'll have to come up with a 140 00:07:25,710 --> 00:07:29,230 new reason. If they don't appeal the 141 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,970 grayscale reason, they basically have to basically have to come 142 00:07:32,980 --> 00:07:35,000 up with a new reason and that's quite a big deal. 143 00:07:35,050 --> 00:07:37,780 But we saw the futures ETFs launched yesterday. 144 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:42,980 We didn't see crazy volume, in fact, not terrible volume, but 145 00:07:42,990 --> 00:07:47,420 just in the low millions of volume for these ETFs, For the 146 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:51,950 futures ETFs they are. A less used product than spot 147 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,540 ETF. So by nature they're not going 148 00:07:53,550 --> 00:07:56,490 to be this huge thing. But yeah, still still relatively 149 00:07:56,500 --> 00:08:00,550 small. So on the back of that we saw a 150 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,480 bit of a dump. Remember open interest had been 151 00:08:02,490 --> 00:08:08,450 rising into that. I think ETH was at about 1775 152 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:14,350 hit and then we're hanging around 1730 during our show 153 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,690 yesterday and it's dumped about 6 or 7% since then. 154 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:24,320 So we're now at 1650. Bitcoin was at 28.4 and now it's 155 00:08:24,330 --> 00:08:27,690 at 27 1/2. So a dump down took out some of 156 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:31,410 the open interest took out. Some of the bullets narrative, I 157 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:34,679 think the main thing that people are saying is just what's going 158 00:08:34,690 --> 00:08:37,049 on in macro right now is pretty unprecedented. 159 00:08:37,059 --> 00:08:39,850 So the dollar just keeps going. I think it's on for 12 straight 160 00:08:39,860 --> 00:08:43,600 weeks of it. Well, higher euro dollar is 161 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,340 close to parity again and the reason for that there was some. 162 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,930 There were some comments yesterday by the by some of the 163 00:08:51,940 --> 00:08:53,110 Fed. Um. 164 00:08:54,140 --> 00:08:56,890 Committee basically saying we need higher for longer. 165 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,530 Jamie Dimon came out and said he thinks that we're going to see 166 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,210 7% rates, remember that 5 1/2 right now. 167 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:06,050 So that would be a huge move. So just generally bearishness 168 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:09,430 about rates, the idea that interest rates will continue to 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,170 go higher and that's when the dollar has continued to go 170 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:17,220 higher and that's meant gold is for example gone lower even 171 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:20,840 though gold is safe haven asset goes lower because it's priced 172 00:09:20,850 --> 00:09:23,390 more expensive than dollars and most people would have expected 173 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,830 Bitcoin to go lower during this period. 174 00:09:24,900 --> 00:09:26,790 Has actually gone higher. So gold and Bitcoin have 175 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,050 diverged. Part of that is bullish 176 00:09:29,060 --> 00:09:33,040 narrative around ETFs and stuff, but you definitely have to start 177 00:09:33,050 --> 00:09:35,980 paying attention to what's going on in macro right now because 178 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:39,020 this is getting to the point where I thought it would bounce. 179 00:09:39,030 --> 00:09:41,700 It's now gone past that point and now seems like super 180 00:09:41,710 --> 00:09:45,120 stretched, could start breaking things if it continues to go. 181 00:09:45,130 --> 00:09:50,220 So a little bit worrying across macro just with what's going on 182 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:53,120 in the bond market. Yeah. 183 00:09:53,130 --> 00:09:55,790 So that's kind of what drives us lower ETH is kind of hanging out 184 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,130 at 1650 right now. I don't know if we'll see any 185 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:04,200 big dumps today or big moves couldn't open, got wiped out to 186 00:10:04,210 --> 00:10:07,580 a large extent, but it definitely has that feeling 187 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:10,740 about it. The one bright spot or the two 188 00:10:10,750 --> 00:10:13,320 bright spots have really been Matic and Solana. 189 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:16,620 Solana is. Kind of still at 24, so close to 190 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:20,400 where it was yesterday, hasn't really moved and Matic I think 191 00:10:20,410 --> 00:10:24,760 hit 8.56 again. They've Google is now a 192 00:10:25,050 --> 00:10:29,840 validator of thematic network and Solana, you continue to see 193 00:10:29,850 --> 00:10:32,280 institutional inflows into Solana funds. 194 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:33,840 So that's got a lot of bullishness. 195 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:36,460 Here you go. Avi, did you find out the answer 196 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:38,520 to yesterday's question regarding DFS or what? 197 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:40,700 I know you guys were going back and forth about it. 198 00:10:41,230 --> 00:10:43,400 Yeah, I think there's no the 1st. 199 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:49,130 Approval or rejection deadline is in January on January the 200 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:52,330 10th but. The SEC has 45 days from that 201 00:10:52,340 --> 00:10:54,930 court ruling to appeal, which is what Michael was just saying. 202 00:10:55,140 --> 00:10:57,920 So. In October, we weren't. 203 00:10:58,030 --> 00:11:00,260 They may approve it, but they don't have to approve it. 204 00:11:00,270 --> 00:11:01,740 They can still delay it and still. 205 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,420 This is probably gonna happen. Are we getting, are we getting a 206 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:09,580 shutdown in the end by the way for the government? 207 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:11,250 I haven't followed back on, followed up on that. 208 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:15,630 Last minute they managed to get a deal done. 209 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:20,290 Basically, the the House Speaker McCarthy had to get a deal done 210 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:24,710 with these. Rats to push forward with 45 211 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 days worth of spending. It may have cost him his job 212 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:29,530 though. The reason why he couldn't get 213 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:32,120 it forward is because the Republican Party itself is split 214 00:11:32,130 --> 00:11:37,210 at the moment. And part of that split basically 215 00:11:37,220 --> 00:11:41,050 didn't want the IT done and now they've basically they're 216 00:11:41,060 --> 00:11:46,130 basically trying to oust him. So I would say that this is all 217 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:49,130 like posturing, but the US spending is out of control. 218 00:11:49,140 --> 00:11:54,750 U.S. debt is out of control. Like the levels not seen before. 219 00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:58,220 So I kind of think that people need to start paying attention 220 00:11:58,230 --> 00:12:00,150 to this. This isn't just a no. 221 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,330 This isn't just a Republicans versus Democrats saying like 222 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,880 people start need to be held accountable for like these crazy 223 00:12:07,890 --> 00:12:09,490 deficits. It's crazy debt spending. 224 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:11,000 Yeah. All right, well, we'll see what 225 00:12:11,010 --> 00:12:15,100 happens with that. Another time it falls through 226 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:17,270 the market. I mean, look, it's it's, it's 227 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,950 October 30. It was funny yesterday saying 228 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,340 people, it's over already listed. 229 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,850 Don't bring bad juju into this. This is my message to CT this 230 00:12:23,860 --> 00:12:25,310 morning. Let's see, Twitter. 231 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,130 It is October, every day in October. 232 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:32,270 OK, We just went from 1680 and said like 1666. 233 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,170 OK, so just take a chill pill, give it some time. 234 00:12:35,250 --> 00:12:36,970 Keep nurturing the bullish tweets. 235 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:39,750 OK, keep posting your draughts and let's keep it going. 236 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,930 But anyways, topic #2 today not so great news. 237 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:46,520 I have obviously some some personal friends that were 238 00:12:46,530 --> 00:12:50,680 affected from that and and was talking to a few of them in the 239 00:12:50,690 --> 00:12:53,240 last 24 hours. But it looks like proof and 240 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:57,660 Chainalysis had to make some some many cuts in the staffing 241 00:12:57,670 --> 00:12:59,960 member which is not you know new news in this bear market. 242 00:12:59,970 --> 00:13:01,620 I mean we've seen it happen multiple times. 243 00:13:01,630 --> 00:13:04,840 I think not not long ago was that coin desk and and a few 244 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:08,340 other companies before. So we had a proof that XYZ 245 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:11,160 posted proof has made the decision to reduce our team to 246 00:13:11,170 --> 00:13:14,220 adapt to the current market. We express our deep gratitude to 247 00:13:14,230 --> 00:13:17,780 the to the departing team members for their contributions. 248 00:13:18,170 --> 00:13:22,200 Our team remains committed and will be sharing details on 249 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:25,930 upcoming releases and events. Soon followed also by Kevin Rose 250 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,930 message in the proof Community discord saying that you know 251 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:33,570 there's still gonna be about 22 team down to 22 employees, which 252 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:37,250 by the way like 22 members on the team is still lots, but they 253 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:39,510 must have had over like 40 something. 254 00:13:39,580 --> 00:13:43,550 It's like it's pretty, I didn't not know how extensive and big 255 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,970 that that that burden must have been insane. 256 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,470 So they're they're saying it's because of the unpredictable 257 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,770 market, thus unpredictable and then unsustainable. 258 00:13:51,780 --> 00:13:54,280 Sorry. And then it was Chainalysis. 259 00:13:54,730 --> 00:14:00,860 So the blockchain analytics firm Chainalysis, that cuts 15% of 260 00:14:00,930 --> 00:14:06,040 their staff, but it's their second round of layoffs just 261 00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:09,360 this year. So it's it's been, it's been 262 00:14:09,370 --> 00:14:11,960 pretty wild. But I mean obviously it's been 263 00:14:11,970 --> 00:14:13,830 pretty, it's much bigger, right? They have an employee base of 264 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,500 about 900 people and that's that's a whole other level that 265 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:22,510 we're talking to prove. But boys like, you know, we've 266 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,630 seen this happen all year round, you know, Do you think it's 267 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,570 gonna keep happening or do you have any thoughts on the latest 268 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:29,030 round of cuts, cuts, because it seems like it's not, it's not 269 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,890 stopping anytime soon. It's definitely affecting a lot 270 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:33,350 of people around us. We'll see more of it for sure. 271 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,650 I mean Proof had a very large team, but there are plenty of 272 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:40,910 other NFT projects out there that have teams of like 20-30 273 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,030 people plus and that's all maybe from their initial raise and the 274 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,090 markets obviously change and it's very, you know, I don't 275 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:50,240 need to go through. Just how the dynamic is and 276 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:53,320 landscape is right now for NFTS, but I think a lot of people will 277 00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:55,900 now find at this point when we're like one year in or 18 278 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:57,780 months in that they are overstaffed. 279 00:14:57,790 --> 00:15:00,300 They do have a very high cost base and they don't have any 280 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:03,560 real means of making revenues right now and they need to 281 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,960 change that. So this won't be the first I'm 282 00:15:05,970 --> 00:15:09,120 sure there's been, I'm sure that it's already happened across the 283 00:15:09,130 --> 00:15:11,520 board by the way. It's just proof is a bit of a 284 00:15:11,530 --> 00:15:14,680 high profile example given how much money they raise and and 285 00:15:14,690 --> 00:15:17,370 valuation they raised at. So I think that's why there's a 286 00:15:17,380 --> 00:15:20,070 lot of focus on it, but. You know, they have to make an 287 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,730 announcement like that, but I think, you know, sure there are 288 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:25,830 many others and unfortunately it's just unfortunately it's a 289 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,020 bad, you know, it's just a bad market and it is what it is, but 290 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,450 you know. At the end of the day, a lot of 291 00:15:32,460 --> 00:15:35,010 these guys raised a tonne of money at crazy evaluation that 292 00:15:35,020 --> 00:15:36,560 everyone said was crazy at the time. 293 00:15:36,570 --> 00:15:40,100 So I'm just confused like, and it's not this is not like a 294 00:15:40,110 --> 00:15:43,020 proof thing, I'm just confused like who was writing these 295 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:45,260 cheques at these valuations. It's just bizarre to me. 296 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:47,860 Yeah, this is not proof to him. It's not the it's on the other 297 00:15:47,870 --> 00:15:50,850 side, right. Like it's it's their valuations 298 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:52,100 were nuts when you think about it. 299 00:15:52,110 --> 00:15:55,000 And I do think like a lot of people got carried away hiring a 300 00:15:55,010 --> 00:15:56,900 lot of people and it's tough, man. 301 00:15:56,910 --> 00:16:00,380 I mean, being in a position that we're hiring, we're actually in 302 00:16:00,390 --> 00:16:01,990 my opinion, we're lacking people rugby. 303 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:06,240 One, I wish and we are in the process of of hiring more, but 304 00:16:06,250 --> 00:16:09,750 it's a, it's also tough because it's a lot of churn and 305 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,630 startups, right, And it's a lot of come and go. 306 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,910 So it's a tough one. And of course we got absolutely 307 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,410 berated within the market, so it did. 308 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:20,290 I mean, Mendel, you guys both used to work in distressed 309 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,980 companies, right, and not work in them because trade distressed 310 00:16:22,990 --> 00:16:25,470 companies, you must have seen that quite a bit. 311 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,100 How much longer are we gonna see the bleed here within these 312 00:16:28,110 --> 00:16:30,670 companies? It's starting to be a lot. 313 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:35,570 We haven't even begun. Shit, yo, Daddy. 314 00:16:35,580 --> 00:16:39,470 Shit. I'm serious like you. 315 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,730 You've literally people stop playing, Stop people, stop 316 00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:46,680 paying creative fees, right. So like. 317 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:49,110 Everyone's playing great for 12 months ago. 318 00:16:49,150 --> 00:16:51,580 There's no revenue to these companies unless they dilute you 319 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:54,960 with a new mint and we've seen what happens when people even 320 00:16:54,970 --> 00:16:56,320 attempt to do that sort of stuff. 321 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:59,720 So I think you're gonna see a tonne of companies. 322 00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:05,569 Like having a web feed business model does not work for some of 323 00:17:05,579 --> 00:17:08,839 the blue chips that have the majority of their trading fees 324 00:17:08,849 --> 00:17:13,690 came from pre minted. Limited collections. 325 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:16,980 So yeah, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. 326 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:19,940 Genuinely. I think we're going to see 327 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:26,069 tonnes of companies either fold or massively sell and some of 328 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,400 them are just slow rugging now and not really doing anything 329 00:17:28,410 --> 00:17:31,340 like it's just you have to get into your head. 330 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:34,420 The web three business model has died without training fees. 331 00:17:34,890 --> 00:17:38,540 Now they kind of half been protected, but it seems like 332 00:17:38,550 --> 00:17:40,740 it's very easy to get around them with some of the like the 333 00:17:40,750 --> 00:17:43,220 blend features. So I think the amount of. 334 00:17:43,310 --> 00:17:48,040 Trading fees spent by creative fees spent on some of the major 335 00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:51,420 collections is very, very low. So you're sitting there and 336 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:53,520 there's zero revenue. So there's not sit here and go 337 00:17:53,530 --> 00:17:55,430 like it's their fault or anything like that. 338 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:57,720 It's all our fault. We're not paying revenues. 339 00:17:57,730 --> 00:18:00,310 So that means none of these businesses can operate. 340 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,730 They're all going to go to 0. So unless they come up with 341 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:07,050 some, they do, they do. They find an outside revenue 342 00:18:07,060 --> 00:18:09,070 source, which is what we've already spoken about. 343 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:12,590 And I think we've said Luke has done a good job of that. 344 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,130 But that's not easy. And to be honest, it doesn't 345 00:18:15,140 --> 00:18:18,510 necessarily require NFTS. Like if I'm a young entrepreneur 346 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,030 coming into this space right now, unless I really feel like 347 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,050 NFTS is going to drive some incredible brand value for me 348 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,640 and I just have a good consumer product, I think I can do it in 349 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:31,970 different ways. So I think it's a massive 350 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:33,510 problem. I do think that. 351 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:37,270 Starting to see some like that's why I was quite bullish or even 352 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,850 things like frantic or or other closed end systems because once 353 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:45,760 you protect greater royalties, I think you can lead to more. 354 00:18:47,390 --> 00:18:50,240 I know they're symbiotic relationships with creators 355 00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:52,140 actually coming on there and feeling like, you know, the 356 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:54,190 incentives are there to continue to produce value and all that. 357 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,380 But now we're just in the situation where there's no 358 00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:58,540 incentives, everything's just gonna collapse. 359 00:18:58,550 --> 00:19:00,600 So yeah, I think this is just the beginning, yeah. 360 00:19:00,650 --> 00:19:03,920 And stay tuned for Mummy. Look if you're someone was 361 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:06,030 affected by these cuts, I mean feel free to of course always 362 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,680 reach out or comment or or put your stuff out there, we'll be 363 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:12,360 happy to share it here and there, you know and if you're 364 00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:14,440 through one of these companies that was cut off, I mean we're 365 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:16,200 always looking at to our partnerships team. 366 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:19,600 So I'm just putting it out there, you know and it would 367 00:19:19,610 --> 00:19:21,780 always looking for more people because there's a lot of 368 00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:24,230 competent folks approved man, I can't speak for channels, I know 369 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,810 nothing about that company but there was a lot of competent 370 00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:30,450 like you know team members over there in that team in the few 371 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:33,450 that I know. So it's obviously, I hate to see 372 00:19:33,460 --> 00:19:35,390 it, hate to hear it, but sometimes you know new 373 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,550 beginnings and we'll see where that takes us. 374 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:40,870 But anyways so was that topic #3 today? 375 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,100 Elon Musk, Elon Musk. Look, everything we said would 376 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:49,680 happen on X has been starting to happen on X, and I wish we could 377 00:19:49,690 --> 00:19:51,440 go back in time on the show. We probably can. 378 00:19:51,450 --> 00:19:55,400 We have like 304 episodes on Spotify now and on YouTube. 379 00:19:55,470 --> 00:19:57,950 But we pretty much predicted all of this with the him putting 380 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,480 more emphasis on video streaming. 381 00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:01,740 You've seen it, you can go to the top now, you can watch us on 382 00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:04,780 video and whatnot, yadda yadda yadda. 383 00:20:05,310 --> 00:20:10,120 But Elon Musk is texting, testing, X Gaming himself, which 384 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:14,020 is something that I love, and he was streaming Diablo 4 yesterday 385 00:20:14,090 --> 00:20:18,900 to millions of viewer on X where he accidentally or not. 386 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:23,010 Ohh accidentally as well docs his his alt account, but look I 387 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:28,240 thought it was great so he has obviously he he got 2.8 million 388 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:31,800 views overall views at the time that the article was right it 389 00:20:31,810 --> 00:20:35,540 yesterday and before we before going live he posted tested the 390 00:20:35,550 --> 00:20:37,560 X Video Game Streamer system last night. 391 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:40,460 It works. We'll try to complete a tier 100 392 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:44,660 Nightmare dungeon tonight live and so it's actually really 393 00:20:44,670 --> 00:20:46,500 cool. Let me hear us share my screen 394 00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:48,220 and show you guys what this looks like. 395 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:50,610 But the streaming on X has been really good and we stream every 396 00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:51,770 morning. Like at the moment, as I'm 397 00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:55,070 speaking to you all, we're live streaming on on X. 398 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,400 At the top now, do you have the purple bar? 399 00:20:56,410 --> 00:20:58,970 You can go to rock radio, hit the purple, you can see us on 400 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:00,350 video. It's actually really high 401 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,290 quality, but it was streaming yesterday. 402 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:04,350 Where's the screen? I'm sharing right here and it's 403 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,690 actually really good. It's a 3.6 million viewers life. 404 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:11,980 I mean, look at the quality. It was great, you know, But it's 405 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:13,960 working. He's playing. 406 00:21:14,510 --> 00:21:16,440 I love how Elon, you know. I love about Elon. 407 00:21:16,550 --> 00:21:22,970 He's just like the rest of us. Like I find that so cool that he 408 00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:25,630 goes live and stream live on x.com. 409 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,310 So look like x.com is really becoming this like this hub for 410 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:35,170 creators to put their content out there to be seen to get 411 00:21:35,180 --> 00:21:36,810 paid. Though the payouts are small 412 00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:38,980 right now, like there's still a payout. 413 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:41,740 And when I remember guys like when I was just getting started 414 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:45,850 as a creator on social platform 1415, I don't even know how many 415 00:21:45,860 --> 00:21:48,090 years ago I always talked about a future where there's gonna be 416 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,880 a payouts and where you can stream and this and that. 417 00:21:49,890 --> 00:21:52,550 When we started rock radio, we start rock radio and hopes that 418 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,610 something like this would happen. 419 00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:55,290 And here it is. And I just love that. 420 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:57,870 And the thing with Ryan is like that he starts and the rest 421 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,310 follow and they have no choice to follow. 422 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,620 So it's been really cool to see him lasting this. 423 00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:03,380 And then the other part, then I'm going to go to the boys 424 00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:06,130 here. But yesterday the southern viral 425 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:09,330 was WSB Maud. And here's the clip of Fillon 426 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:11,730 revealing his Baby Smurf account. 427 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:17,780 Stroke 9004 testing well. I only have two accounts where 428 00:22:17,790 --> 00:22:22,310 you lost as a baby. Smurf 1000 account. 429 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,160 That was that was yesterday. I'm trying to have two accounts. 430 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:30,750 I'm stuck on this window but if I go here and let's and let's 431 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,130 have a look at the at the account that we're playing with. 432 00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:37,130 So it's 7000 followers now. It's going pretty fast actually. 433 00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:38,710 Maybe I should follow it. There you go. 434 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,690 The account that he does is testing on so I don't know. 435 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,670 I'd love to see that but. But boys, what do you think 436 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,510 about this live live game streaming on Axe 3.6 million 437 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,800 views? Is X going to become a YouTube 438 00:22:50,890 --> 00:22:56,070 creditor and Twitch or what? YouTube competes, Sir. 439 00:22:56,460 --> 00:23:00,300 That's a That's a tall order. But you never know why not like. 440 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,950 There's a maybe it'll be a different type of content. 441 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,710 I don't know if it'll be like video streaming and stuff 442 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,610 because YouTube just has so many years in terms of technology on 443 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:09,210 it. But yeah, people like to use 444 00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:11,590 Twitter for a certain type of content, and I think that can 445 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,580 be. Embossed by video content. 446 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:19,920 So you never know, like maybe I do watch videos on Twitter like 447 00:23:19,930 --> 00:23:22,360 I do, if I see something, I'll watch it, I will consume it. 448 00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:25,140 So if they can improve that, think about like this stream as 449 00:23:25,150 --> 00:23:27,600 well, right? If we can, there's a lot of 450 00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:31,410 people within Twitter who have a following on Twitter and they 451 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,780 may not have a following on YouTube, but they want to show 452 00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:36,820 an air video content. Like if they could get that 453 00:23:36,830 --> 00:23:39,080 going in a strong way, that could be pretty good. 454 00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:42,550 So. Welcome changes whether there 455 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,200 will be like. Lead to success at Whether or 456 00:23:46,210 --> 00:23:49,210 not, I don't know, but I I definitely will sex. 457 00:23:50,650 --> 00:23:52,420 I'm still gonna. I'm never not gonna say you. 458 00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:54,640 Are you talking about this, this weekend with a bunch of folks? 459 00:23:54,650 --> 00:23:56,370 I think I've got completely used to X. 460 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:01,710 I'm always going to say Twitter. Always really interesting ohh. 461 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,610 X is just weird. If it sounds weird to say, I 462 00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:06,370 don't know, kind of like X. Like it's like it sounds 463 00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:07,450 gangster. Almost like X. 464 00:24:07,460 --> 00:24:09,710 Like everything happen like, I don't know, I'm starting to like 465 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,980 it. Do you call it a Twitter post? 466 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,100 Tweet for sure. I've I've called it a post same. 467 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:18,670 Now recently like. I'm just like, why I might as 468 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,980 well get on board, you know, I mean, like. 469 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:23,990 This is not gonna change. You're gonna start dating 470 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,540 yourself. You just. 471 00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:26,170 Call it I'm gonna be. I'm being one of those cool 472 00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:27,590 people. You still calls it Twitter. 473 00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:30,730 Yeah, I was on Twitter. No. 474 00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:32,360 Yes. It feels like you're just, yeah, 475 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:33,290 you've lost. You're so funny. 476 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,670 I mean what are your thoughts here on on Elon streaming video 477 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,160 next? I mean we, you and I were all 478 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:39,450 three of us, right. We've been creating content on 479 00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:43,750 Here for Together for over a year and a half everyday. 480 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:47,300 I think streaming works. Streaming can work well. 481 00:24:48,050 --> 00:24:50,240 Like the Spaces feature works well. 482 00:24:50,250 --> 00:24:54,290 They already took out fucking. What was that Spaces app? 483 00:24:55,070 --> 00:24:58,160 Yeah, clubhouse. So I don't see why you can't see 484 00:24:58,170 --> 00:24:59,500 massive streaming coming onto it. 485 00:24:59,510 --> 00:25:02,850 People like to get news from Twitter. 486 00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:05,570 They like to have like thoughtful conversations with 487 00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:06,960 people. I think. 488 00:25:07,690 --> 00:25:12,490 I think it can, it can meet that meet that demand for sure. 489 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:15,000 Yeah. And other question is do you 490 00:25:15,010 --> 00:25:20,470 guys have alt accounts? No, I've never had one, really. 491 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,320 No, I don't actually. It's true cuz Mando ends up in 492 00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:26,890 the most unhinged spaces sometimes and I'm like don't you 493 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:30,510 have an alt account to listen to them And he and he's like no. 494 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,990 So I know you don't. It's funny. 495 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,550 I never had one then I made one day then I got logged out of him 496 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,830 and new phone and never bothered. 497 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:40,450 So it's just too much work you know to run a you know whose 498 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:42,250 Maddocks who doesn't seem to believe us. 499 00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:43,750 It's true dude. I can. 500 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,840 I can show you. Let me see. 501 00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:47,480 That's one of my phones. Watch it have an alter. 502 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:50,620 It looks so bad. Ohh shit it does. 503 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,800 But anyways so no don't have it all to count on here and I do 504 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:58,510 agree that I do think that X and street light video streaming is 505 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,840 gonna be so if you're a streamer give it a shot man. 506 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:03,180 We use restream here it's a stream across multiple 507 00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:04,510 platforms. Streamer was good. 508 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,460 We start using stream again as of yesterday because we seem to 509 00:26:07,470 --> 00:26:09,350 get some better quality out of it maybe stems when they can 510 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,690 come on and like explain to other like content creators how 511 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,050 we run it behind the scenes on our end. 512 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:17,090 But it's a it's been really cool and yeah the Portuguese bond 513 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:21,130 guys that's mando's all that's what's up and Jello Bite seems 514 00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:23,450 to be agreeing with over here saying this is a dumb name. 515 00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:27,430 I agree with SF it's Twitter. Yeah I just got used to it. 516 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,130 I don't know the whole post. There's a lot of changes 517 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:33,350 happening on the platform at the moment and you know I guess you 518 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,400 just have to get used to it and and there's been a lot of fun. 519 00:26:36,410 --> 00:26:38,470 I think the fast you get used to as content creating the faster 520 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,870 you start adopting everything the better. 521 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,090 It'll again the more probably engagement you'll be getting. 522 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,970 So try posting videos out there it's it's working pretty well 523 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,770 for us and I will continue to tell you guys how it goes. 524 00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:54,500 But anyways anyways anyways topic #4 today men same swaps 525 00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:59,780 Once again on the rise but this time on French tech in a few 526 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:02,090 users. I saw Zach XBT tweet earlier but 527 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,620 I'm gonna share my screen here once again. 528 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:09,340 I think it was Darren Yes so it was used Twitter X see I I said 529 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:11,220 it. Twitter See I'm I'm probably. 530 00:27:11,270 --> 00:27:18,280 I'm halfway there though I'm halfway there but XX user Darren 531 00:27:18,290 --> 00:27:20,320 GB. I was just SIM swapped and 532 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:25,200 robbed 22 ETH via Frontex. The 34 of my keys that I only 533 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:27,580 were sold. Rugging everyone anyone who held 534 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:29,480 my key. All the other keys I owned were 535 00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:32,030 sold and the rest of the earth in my wallet was drained. 536 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,270 If you're see set Twitter X account is docs Your real name 537 00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:40,290 your phone number can be found in could happen to you and it 538 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:43,720 seems like it also happened to somebody else here. 539 00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:46,180 Yeah so Zach is becoming to rip. That's another one. 540 00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:50,860 So Froggy dot Earth here has reported got himself for 20 plus 541 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:53,340 E the dream my friend. Text stay vigilant out there. 542 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:57,750 Set a PIN on your SIM. Some men, I don't know, it seems 543 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,690 like they're targeting, targeting Frontex specifically. 544 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,250 Have you guys looked into this a little more, man? 545 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:06,680 Have you seen a little more of this or? 546 00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:08,820 I guess everyone has French on their phones, don't they? 547 00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:12,640 So it's an easy. I don't know if that's how, how? 548 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:14,460 Well, they have. You have friend tech. 549 00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:17,300 No, I don't think it's that. I think it's if your Twitter 550 00:28:17,310 --> 00:28:23,790 account is is but it is right. Is not for everyone. 551 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Well, OK, I guess it is. Yeah, it is. 552 00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:27,270 So they need they need to add some. 553 00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:29,610 I mean they need to layer protect. 554 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,600 Two FA FA yeah well but how do you protect yourself. 555 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,760 It's mostly an American thing so like Verizon and T-Mobile and 556 00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:41,410 stuff from what I've seen. But because in the US like you 557 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:44,410 can just like stay social engineer the person working at 558 00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:48,390 Verizon also inside jobs for sure they get a new SIM swap SIM 559 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,010 card and it's over right. But it's, I don't know. 560 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:52,300 It's been it's been pretty dangerous. 561 00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:54,090 See that? So stay on the lookout. 562 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:57,730 Maybe you don't keep all of your crazy amount of Ethan frantic 563 00:28:57,740 --> 00:28:59,140 for now. Like, I'm not trying to fight or 564 00:28:59,150 --> 00:29:01,910 anything. I'm saying like for now, just be 565 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,750 cautious like. Be cautious, yeah. 566 00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:07,160 I don't. I think friend text. 567 00:29:07,210 --> 00:29:09,580 I put out a tweet today. I just feel as though the the 568 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:11,460 nature of it slightly changing recently. 569 00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:13,160 I agree, you guys agree, but but. 570 00:29:13,890 --> 00:29:16,060 I feel like it's. I don't know. 571 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:18,500 I just feel like I'm in so many chats now and the only thing 572 00:29:18,510 --> 00:29:22,650 being said now is just like. You know matches coming on on 573 00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:26,390 Friday or Hanway or fucking CB has done this. 574 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,290 It's like this is just Blur farming. 575 00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:32,710 It's like, I don't know. The incentives, I think, just 576 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,450 seem to have just shifted way to the wrong way now. 577 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,750 But I think it can be. I do think there's a lot of 578 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,600 value to this platform, but it should be about. 579 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:46,170 Access and networking, but I just don't really see that as 580 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:48,480 happening as much. I don't know if you guys, is 581 00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:50,370 that just my experience? I'm not gonna lie, I'm having a 582 00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:53,390 very hard time and I'm trying. I went today again on my friend 583 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,250 tech. I'm talking to people every time 584 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:57,760 I see someone really active in my chat and they're the part 585 00:29:57,770 --> 00:29:59,210 one. I'm still buying them, still 586 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:01,900 trying to support them because I love supporting people. 587 00:30:01,910 --> 00:30:04,490 Like supporting me, of course. And like a lot of friends of 588 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,700 mine or I see early rock radio holders that are in there that 589 00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:09,670 really like, you know, the diehard fans and stuff like 590 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,490 that. And like I'm obviously buying 591 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,060 all their keys my friend joined us and of course I'm buying and 592 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:17,210 like but I'm just I'm generally having a hard time man. 593 00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:19,070 Like I love French. I love to I mean we were we were 594 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,310 some of the earliest we I was day one friend tech right And I 595 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,550 and that was one of the in the chat like yo this is sick. 596 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,580 I like it, but I'm just having a I'm having a hard time. 597 00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:32,200 I mean, I would read your chat and I do, but I talked to you 598 00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:34,740 every day. I read all these, but if I wanna 599 00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:36,520 fuck one with Ovie, I mean I'm playing golf with him tomorrow 600 00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:39,530 morning, you know, like it's just like, it's just. 601 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:41,360 That's slightly different though. 602 00:30:41,370 --> 00:30:42,890 OK, so let's say I didn't have access. 603 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,490 I would get the hire people, but they're all expensive. 604 00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:48,020 I can't afford like. But they're not right now. 605 00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:50,150 They're not right now, actually. What's be interesting, I'm 606 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,970 seeing a lot of people that I would pay to be in a chat room 607 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:56,230 with. Susie and Susie 0.5 I bought. 608 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,490 Suzu taken? Yeah, but he's gonna be using. 609 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:01,160 He won't be talking about. He he may be imprisoned, but 610 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,810 maybe he has access there. Maybe. 611 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,080 I wouldn't mind being a chat with him like I was like nought 612 00:31:06,090 --> 00:31:10,270 .3 and I was like. Can we speak to him that much? 613 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,940 I'd like to chat with him. Cyrus is like nought .6. 614 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:14,670 I think he's like one of the smartest people on there. 615 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,450 Like suddenly a lot of those accounts are something really 616 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:19,970 cheap and all the top accounts have to see that swap that 617 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,530 you've talked about. And we've talked about this a 618 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:24,890 lot where 33 is not enough and it's gonna have to be value 619 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:28,280 driven or you have to be first to buy someone shitcoin because 620 00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:30,990 we're all turning into shitcoins before they announce something 621 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:32,510 or before they come on like a farmer. 622 00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:34,770 So that's going to be that because the three three thing is 623 00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:36,410 great. I could go right now by 30 keys, 624 00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:39,590 but I'm here saying like what Like why and like and I'm here 625 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,550 like getting like for me like I I think from a founder 626 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,450 perspective is way too complicated and way too, too 627 00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:46,050 time consuming. Though it's important to have a 628 00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:47,670 presence but it's hard to be too much on there. 629 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,090 I have 10,000 holders radio that I think should come before my 630 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,490 personal frantic account but when it comes to like the daily 631 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,760 user so forget me having the access now is probably the best 632 00:31:56,770 --> 00:31:58,910 time to buy. For example like I told you 633 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,440 about like I follow a few traders closely and I do enjoy 634 00:32:01,450 --> 00:32:04,760 their insight and like maybe now is the time to go and ask these 635 00:32:04,770 --> 00:32:06,550 questions because those people actually do. 636 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,270 So now is the time when you actually look for the value 637 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,350 driven, frantic holders, frantic users that really care or like 638 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,510 people you want to have access to that were applied to your 639 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,050 DMS, right? And a few people did this with 640 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:18,550 me. Like a few people like genuinely 641 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,810 like reached out to me through friend tech. 642 00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:22,950 I don't think I would have talked to them on DM because I 643 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,550 wasn't really answer DM's that much and they got even the other 644 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,470 day someone got on my stage, I was hosting the fuel space and 645 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,810 he was a big fuel fan and holder and he wanted to come on. 646 00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:32,860 I saw he was a frantic holder and I got him on to talk to a 647 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:34,870 few other directly. I don't think I would have seen 648 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,880 his DM right. So for stuff like this I think 649 00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,030 for quick access cause I do still check it once a day like I 650 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,550 think it's gonna be just the access token and that's it. 651 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:47,110 But the whole 33 like Pyramid, you know saying and House of 652 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,760 Cards kind of scheme, I I don't know how much longer this is 653 00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:52,780 going to be viable, but I'm curious to see what they do next 654 00:32:52,790 --> 00:32:55,530 because with all the revenue models and everything they've 655 00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:57,450 done so far and we still have how many weeks until that 656 00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:00,570 potential the AirDrop, not potential the AirDrop like you 657 00:33:00,580 --> 00:33:04,680 know there's still a lot more. But I think we add air drops to 658 00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:07,250 thing that's hurting you think. That's my. 659 00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:10,030 Yeah, because I think now it's like people. 660 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,620 That's what's causing all the 3/3. 661 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,110 So like now, I feel like it was invaluable at the start. 662 00:33:16,460 --> 00:33:18,670 You see, like if I was saying like when is the edge of most 663 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,480 valuable? It got everyone on the platform 664 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,450 and now everyone's on the platform. 665 00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:26,390 They're just trying to farm the AirDrop in instead of like 666 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,190 right, How can I create a valuable room? 667 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,350 And so I personally think they should try and do the job sooner 668 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,650 rather than. At the moment I think. 669 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:39,090 Well, they can. Like there's nothing stopping 670 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,890 them from doing like A to give everyone a little bit of an air 671 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,020 drop or something like that. Because I feel as though right 672 00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:47,640 now it's getting to the detriment of the platform, the 673 00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:51,230 AirDrop, basically, yeah. Like forget if there wasn't an 674 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,130 AirDrop, I actually think it would begin to normalise again. 675 00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:58,100 Like you wouldn't particularly want to be in like a three three 676 00:33:58,110 --> 00:34:03,260 room, you'd rather be in a room with like KVM for example. 677 00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:06,080 I agree with that. And I think that's something 678 00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:09,290 that's probably I'm looking at the comments on your tweet and 679 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,300 everybody agrees with you. I mean even KBM Speaking of the 680 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:14,830 devil said I agree completely and same vibe. 681 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,840 It's just vapours through three farmers now and playing chicken 682 00:34:16,850 --> 00:34:19,130 with that. The bizarre only if you buy them 683 00:34:19,139 --> 00:34:21,679 and the cells are if you sell them content is the last place 684 00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:24,260 not for valuation. Lot of people saying it's 685 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:27,560 AirDrop farming and three, three inflated valuation blah blah, 686 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:28,330 blah. I think that's what I was 687 00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:30,100 talking about early on the chat. Remember that first day I didn't 688 00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:32,130 know what three was and I came into private chat just us and 689 00:34:32,139 --> 00:34:34,040 the homies. I was like, I generally don't 690 00:34:34,050 --> 00:34:37,260 see the value in this three three thing, but I'll try it and 691 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:41,969 I got fatigued from it after two days because I felt like if I 692 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:44,590 didn't buy people, people with kind of feel like I'm mugging 693 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,310 them. And then I have a friend the 694 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,639 other day who someone had a whole thread about him selling 695 00:34:50,650 --> 00:34:54,400 someone's key and call him a scammer and I'm like, yo, I'm 696 00:34:54,409 --> 00:34:56,290 like, yo, chill, like you know what I mean? 697 00:34:56,300 --> 00:35:01,560 So I think like that whole like, like, you know, friendship, like 698 00:35:01,570 --> 00:35:02,820 between us we have a true friendship. 699 00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:04,600 It's not like a financial friendship that we do business 700 00:35:04,610 --> 00:35:08,190 together, but frantic is like a purely financial friendship. 701 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,380 You've had those before and you're sure in your past and 702 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:13,710 they never worked right. And I feel like we kind of put 703 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,850 it kind of went towards that where it became just like a 704 00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:18,900 financial transaction rather than like a true connection. 705 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:21,300 So I do agree with you though like this is where you want to 706 00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:23,830 double down the creators. I may actually now you're saying 707 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080 this I may spend a few minutes later and go see the top CT 708 00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:29,680 people that I've always wanted to connect with on here that I 709 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:32,260 still even 2 1/2 years on here haven't been able to connect 710 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:34,280 with mate. That's how I got research on 711 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:37,760 block me early on. I was one of his first you know 712 00:35:37,770 --> 00:35:40,060 remember story when I go on Frontex the first day I realised 713 00:35:40,070 --> 00:35:42,820 her racer had me blocked because he's I'm sure he thought I was a 714 00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:46,720 cringe NFT NFT bro early on, which she probably thought I 715 00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:49,440 bought this cap .4. I went on this chat. 716 00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:52,890 I said, ohh, block me, unblock me, please. 717 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,510 And then end up connecting with him and dimming back and forth 718 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,950 with him a bunch and and you know, and and that's it. 719 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,130 And and it's just been fun since then, right? 720 00:36:02,140 --> 00:36:05,340 So for me this is value, right? And I got to chat with him and I 721 00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:07,230 think he's cool and we got to talk. 722 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,140 So I don't know. I think this is the only thing 723 00:36:09,150 --> 00:36:10,440 left. Like just look out for the 724 00:36:10,450 --> 00:36:12,100 people that you think are valuable because French will 725 00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:15,290 probably have another cycle and other cycle and another cycle, 726 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:16,600 right. We've seen that happen. 727 00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:19,050 I think we had three of them now already in the month and a half. 728 00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:22,680 Two months. I think we have 3 pop-ups, 729 00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:25,350 right? So yeah, so there you go. 730 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,070 But anyways, I think I think that wraps it up pretty pretty 731 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,170 well when it comes to the topics today. 732 00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:33,570 Hang tight though, especially if you're in London this weekend, 733 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,210 this week and you want to hear more about what's coming because 734 00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:40,310 we have the Zebu Live Fam and team coming on the show right 735 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,130 now. So Ovi Mando and myself will be 736 00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:50,390 live from Zebo, I think. So 4:30 PM on Friday, we'll be 737 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,340 hanging out all day over there. Also on the Friday, we'll be 738 00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:56,400 there at the events a day and night before yadda yadda yadda. 739 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:58,740 And we'll be hosting the show live, which I believe will also 740 00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:03,040 be broadcasted online. But we have has in the studio 741 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:05,080 has What's up man? How are you doing today? 742 00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:09,220 How you doing Firstly I mean thanks so much for for inviting 743 00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:11,670 me on and all the promotion that you have I mean we're in the 744 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,060 middle of London web three-week so it is it's we've got multiple 745 00:37:16,070 --> 00:37:19,860 events every day and and it it you know I'm sure your guys is 746 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:22,180 telegram is crazy on a normal day. 747 00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:25,620 It's it's like that times 10 at the moment and everyone I've met 748 00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:28,160 it's like ohh, we get this ticket can we get that ticket. 749 00:37:28,210 --> 00:37:30,820 But you know, we're, we're, we're so bullish and we're so 750 00:37:30,830 --> 00:37:33,380 excited to have amazing people like you come and bring your 751 00:37:33,390 --> 00:37:38,310 community and you know and we're in 520 days of a bear market and 752 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,470 you're still here on Tuesday chatting away and you know 753 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,520 that's exciting. Wait, it's been 520 days? 754 00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:49,060 522 days or something of bear market. 755 00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:53,960 So my yeah, got Jesus Christ, Lord save us. 756 00:37:53,970 --> 00:37:56,180 Look it's October, so don't worry about it. 757 00:37:56,450 --> 00:37:59,100 Hopefully things are looking better now. 758 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:01,020 So here's on the stream. If you're looking at a slight on 759 00:38:01,030 --> 00:38:04,040 camera, just just find us there. You can find us on Twitter. 760 00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:06,940 We all posted the live stream, live stream, uh link. 761 00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:09,620 We also are on YouTube live as usual. 762 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:11,180 But the boys and I actually is funny. 763 00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:13,640 Like when the two red guys kind of looking my way kind of 764 00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:15,740 hilarious. That's a really nice graphic you 765 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:17,770 guys made that? Yeah. 766 00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:20,030 And so we're we're also a marketing agency. 767 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,580 So like I I guess, I guess it's quite interesting to tell you 768 00:38:22,590 --> 00:38:25,290 guys like, you know, yeah, tell us what Zebu is, right? 769 00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:27,310 Yeah. So Zibu stands for. 770 00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:32,990 So Zebra is a former Boo and it stands for no bullshit, always 771 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,710 bullish and Zebu Live stands for like the future of this tech. 772 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,690 You know, like what we've got excited about so far is loads of 773 00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,890 loads of buzzwords like what we what we're celebrating is a 774 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,350 community coming together and starting to use the tech. 775 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,870 And I guess for me it comes back to, you know, when I first got 776 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,550 into Bitcoin in 2011, I was running a music festival and a 777 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960 music management company. So I was using Bitcoin without 778 00:38:56,970 --> 00:38:59,040 really knowing what it was. I don't, I don't. 779 00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:01,890 I was building this music festival and and as you scale 780 00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:04,910 music festivals they become less profitable and more scary. 781 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,830 Bigger overheads, bigger DJ, scarier ticket sales to hit. 782 00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,710 So I got a job in a VC and that's when I ran my first 783 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,650 Bitcoin event in 2013. We are weird quick guys at the 784 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:19,240 back of a pub and everyone thought we were a bit mad and 785 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,580 and so ten years on we've come together and we've got 3000 786 00:39:23,590 --> 00:39:26,160 people in a bear market and we're really, really trying to 787 00:39:26,170 --> 00:39:29,790 showcase how amazing our industry is and how close. 788 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:32,870 Data to mass adoption you know we're we're we're trying we're 789 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,130 trying to build something that's kind of a an experience half 790 00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:41,060 festival half you know business conference but really really fun 791 00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:44,890 and you know for I saw you speaker NFC, Lisbon and that 792 00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:47,570 really cool that was a really cool environment. 793 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,870 Obviously I took very energy focused, but like with mandolin 794 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,390 and Loxley, that was fine. Yeah, you're going for about 5 795 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,660 hours is Unreal, Stamina hosting that stage you did. 796 00:39:57,670 --> 00:40:02,020 You did an amazing job and yeah. What what we're really trying to 797 00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:04,910 what we're really trying to showcase this sort of London on 798 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,440 the map. You know all of the Londoners, 799 00:40:06,450 --> 00:40:10,200 we're always travelling to New York, Miami, Dubai, Singapore. 800 00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:12,270 And what we're really, really trying to celebrate is the 801 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,010 London community and have a lot of fun. 802 00:40:15,020 --> 00:40:17,470 You know it's it's been a really, really tough year for 803 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,870 everyone in the space. You know, everyone, all of us 804 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,110 NFT fans know that volumes are down. 805 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,440 You know the projects are suffering and we're we're we're 806 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:28,260 we're our theme this year is like don't only survive in this 807 00:40:28,270 --> 00:40:29,770 bear market. Let's thrive. 808 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,330 I I like that a lot. I mean, I know, Amanda, you 809 00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:37,050 gotta take off soon. But and and Ovie, but what the 810 00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:38,610 fuck are we gonna talk about on Friday? 811 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,770 What do we have for them? I don't think we figured that 812 00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:42,110 out. Yet we'll find something. 813 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,090 We'll figure as we always do. We we always, we always find 814 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,920 something something something nice to talk about. 815 00:40:49,930 --> 00:40:51,370 I'm look, I'm looking at something here. 816 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,940 The best brains from Western beyond and I only see me on 817 00:40:55,950 --> 00:40:57,010 here. I don't see many don't know 818 00:40:57,020 --> 00:40:58,230 stuff. Does that mean they're not the 819 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,260 some of the best brains are? Harry, what's going on here? 820 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,870 Yeah, you know, there's there's real estate on on on a poster 821 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,890 that's just a highlight. You know, deep down, you know 822 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,690 the important thing of the conference is you guys doing 823 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,230 your amazing talk, but it's also everyone else bringing the 824 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,190 energy and the connections you make and the fact that you can 825 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,890 carry this on forward. You know, like we want to see 826 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:24,290 you guys talk and you guys bring the community, but really it is 827 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,030 about the community, It's about who you're going to meet. 828 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,120 How are you going to follow up with them? 829 00:41:27,130 --> 00:41:29,650 How you gonna make that make friends, Do you make now? 830 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,060 It's funny because when I was organising events in 2018, I 831 00:41:33,070 --> 00:41:34,600 literally couldn't get anyone there. 832 00:41:34,650 --> 00:41:38,800 It was me, the event organisers, you know, it was it was a really 833 00:41:38,810 --> 00:41:42,180 different bear market to 2023. Even though we're hurting and 834 00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:45,480 like what what what what we're excited about is, you know, we 835 00:41:45,490 --> 00:41:48,060 Coinbase sponsored the event. You know, they've not really 836 00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:50,980 sponsored any events this year that that sort of level of of 837 00:41:50,990 --> 00:41:53,290 commitment. And so this is year 3 for us. 838 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:56,330 We've come a long way. You know the first one we did in 839 00:41:56,340 --> 00:41:58,670 six weeks after COVID, cause everyone was just bored. 840 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,230 And basically I called up all my friends was like, how much can 841 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:04,070 you sponsor me without asking your boss and sign it off on the 842 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,790 weekend. And so we cobbled together this 843 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,130 package put put it on and we had a bit longer for year two and 844 00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:14,370 year three we've really you know we've got a big warehouse 845 00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:18,000 fireworks factories. We bring the fire to London and 846 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:20,530 we've got a boat party on the Wednesday. 847 00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:24,530 We've got Coco till 5:00 AM House of Coco one of the coolest 848 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,820 members clubs in London. And and we're filling it with 849 00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:30,300 the really really cool people And like why I love your show so 850 00:42:30,310 --> 00:42:33,710 much is when when we used to talk you know I wasn't clever 851 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:35,700 person that came up with the term web 3. 852 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:37,950 But I was really relieved that I had to stop telling people that 853 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,910 I was into crypto. You know when in 2015 when you 854 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,860 like I'm into crypto everyone's like go web three is still a 855 00:42:45,870 --> 00:42:49,420 buzzword and we're still far away like I'm not like ohh what 856 00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:53,400 what site is this hosted on a WS or Google Google cloud or like 857 00:42:53,410 --> 00:42:55,550 we don't care. We want to join your show and 858 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,850 speak to your audience. So I think, you know, I love 859 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,950 interoperability and as as the different chains start to talk 860 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,380 to each other because imagine meeting someone in New York and 861 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:06,730 being like I'm on this phone line, I can't speak to you. 862 00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:10,010 So I think we're still so, so early in the adoption. 863 00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:12,910 But some of the projects coming you probably haven't heard of, 864 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,660 they're really cool. Some of the projects you have 865 00:43:14,670 --> 00:43:16,990 come, but yeah, it's it's about the people really. 866 00:43:17,650 --> 00:43:19,560 That's cool. Who are some of the exciting 867 00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:23,700 other names you got going on? I mean SRL pile on there ohh 868 00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:27,120 bars of us on the show here but who else you got coming up? 869 00:43:27,570 --> 00:43:32,240 Steven Bartlett who does his podcast which is diary of a CEO. 870 00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:36,240 We've got no gowda who who talks a lot about AI, so interesting 871 00:43:36,250 --> 00:43:39,720 to hear he's not like you know he's he's like sort of crypto 872 00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:43,160 moderate so it'll be interesting to hear his views And we've got 873 00:43:43,210 --> 00:43:49,960 Doctor Lisa Cameron who's an MP and runs runs the UK chair, UK 874 00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:52,770 Digital Asset Chair. So like really cool to connect 875 00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:54,870 with these people and like you know, I will help. 876 00:43:55,580 --> 00:43:58,310 Yeah, I went to the House of Lords the other day and the Gods 877 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,490 tea. And so for those of you don't 878 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,810 know, like the House of Lords is like the very posh you. 879 00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:06,500 Just go shopping at the house. In the House of Lords I'm always 880 00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:09,920 going guys you because in in the UK at the moment we're getting a 881 00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:12,700 lot of American companies come over and so they they're like we 882 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:15,540 must be doing well and I went there and I was like saying guys 883 00:44:15,550 --> 00:44:18,640 don't pat yourself on the back America's just doing badly. 884 00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:21,820 We're slightly you know and and you know when when we look at 885 00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:24,510 Token 2049, I don't know if you guys made it over there but that 886 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,720 was a booming event and we can see the movement to that that 887 00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:32,670 Singapore, Dubai where where people are being progressive 888 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,200 with their policies and going like guys this is happening, how 889 00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:37,610 can we help you? How can we, how can we make this 890 00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:38,620 safe. You know, there's something 891 00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:40,950 really interesting happening on the 8th of October in the UK. 892 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,940 They're bringing in sort of like advertising laws on crypto, 893 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:49,260 which means you will now have to put like this is going to 0 as a 894 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:51,610 high risk investment. Take two minutes to check if you 895 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:53,410 wanna buy this. And because I come from an 896 00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:56,580 online gambling background, it's crazy that I've been able to put 897 00:44:56,590 --> 00:45:01,240 out adverts with no risk warning on 1000 Times Shitcoin and sorry 898 00:45:01,250 --> 00:45:08,690 not to swear in the sense like we're sort of very into the 899 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,370 industry. We know the risk, we know it's 900 00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,110 probably going to zero. We enjoy getting in on on on on 901 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,510 these projects, but like normal people when they see adverts, 902 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,900 those risk warnings are good. So I think that's a step forward 903 00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:21,890 for the industry. It's interesting time, Lots of 904 00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,750 people are pulling out of the UK, but deep down we want to 905 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,640 make it safe to advertise. OK, listen, I I think this is 906 00:45:29,650 --> 00:45:31,040 great. I love what you guys are doing. 907 00:45:31,050 --> 00:45:34,590 I'm excited to come for take. I think things start while on 908 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,750 that boat tomorrow night or something like that, going 909 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,850 about, well, yeah, Thank you so much for having me. 910 00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:42,670 I'm a huge fan. Thanks for the audience, you 911 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,670 know. Love Nikita, who runs one of 912 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,130 your shows and it's great to have you in London. 913 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,830 Dude I I love it here. Thank you for having us. 914 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,170 Really appreciate what I was not even meant to be live but when I 915 00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:54,800 start my schedule that was gonna zoom in. 916 00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:57,310 I'm like, dude, I'm gonna be in London three days before May as 917 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,150 well stay and obviously spent time with my boys here and every 918 00:46:00,230 --> 00:46:03,190 every chance to be on stage with with Ovie and Mando. 919 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,230 I mean over we have to put the Vipers on you know and and get 920 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:08,870 up there at Sibos. So we'll see you in Woolwich. 921 00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:12,950 And thank you so much for having me. 922 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,590 I appreciate you. That's fine. 923 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,330 That's exciting. It's been, it's the last time 924 00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:21,360 just three have been on stage. Consensus because I was on stage 925 00:46:21,370 --> 00:46:24,600 with Mando and Lisbon was Mandela's and I, yeah, but 926 00:46:24,610 --> 00:46:29,020 consensus the last time that us three were together on a stage 927 00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:31,640 and I mean Ovi, we'll be on another stage. 928 00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:37,440 I think that they prior on Thursday, if I'm not mistaken 929 00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:39,800 because and I'm not even because. 930 00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:44,420 Thanks to the wonderful greater greater GM. 931 00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:47,610 How you doing? Hello, Jim. 932 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,480 Well, I love your wife Flowing and we love you. 933 00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:54,910 Every time I listen to your Rogue video, it's like, wow, it 934 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,270 gives me the right time. And see, you know, Thank you so 935 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,490 much. Thank you. 936 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,910 Hello everyone. I just got landed in London 937 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,050 right now at the station. And sorry for my environment 938 00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:07,690 right now, but I have few friends talking instead of me 939 00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:09,450 and we are making this show together. 940 00:47:09,460 --> 00:47:11,030 So, yeah, Thank you for having me. 941 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,930 Thanks for having me. Hell yeah. 942 00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:15,270 I mean, whoever I gotta get on stage, let me know I'm gonna get 943 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,200 up. Intimate. 944 00:47:16,210 --> 00:47:19,260 Get him up, get him. Anyways, get all of them up on 945 00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:22,240 stage right now. But look, I mean Ovi, I'll let 946 00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:23,820 you introduce this. In the meantime, anyone who's 947 00:47:23,830 --> 00:47:25,910 gonna come on stage with Greta, please request to speak. 948 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,020 It makes it easier for me. But Ovie, I saw you post a tweet 949 00:47:29,150 --> 00:47:32,400 saying that you know, being in the Saatchi Gallery is no small 950 00:47:32,410 --> 00:47:34,520 deal. I mean talk to me about about 951 00:47:34,530 --> 00:47:37,120 maybe introduced to us. Like you know, you said as a 952 00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:39,680 Londoner is a true honest person said you guys first crypto art 953 00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:41,080 exhibit. You know, like, why don't you 954 00:47:41,090 --> 00:47:43,660 introduce this to us? Yeah, I mean, look, hats off to 955 00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:46,740 to greet her. And I have and and the team. 956 00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:51,740 And foundation as well who've you know managed to create a 957 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:53,560 crypto art exhibition at the Saatchi Gallery. 958 00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:56,090 For those who don't know the search, you guys are very famous 959 00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:00,140 and prestigious art gallery founded by Charles Saatchi is 960 00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:02,500 one of the largest collectors in the UK. 961 00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:06,780 And it's and it's in Chelsea in London, which is very close to 962 00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:10,310 where I live, actually live like 3 minute walk away from it. 963 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,280 But yeah, so. It's a location, yeah. 964 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,470 Guys like people. I'm going to Marfa. 965 00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:19,680 Yeah. That's a big place. 966 00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:25,650 But yeah, it's it's a pretty, it's a pretty amazing thing to 967 00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:31,340 like see such a prestigious gallery in the traditional and 968 00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:33,780 contemporary art world display digital art. 969 00:48:33,790 --> 00:48:40,020 And I think it's it's part of a larger exhibition that's running 970 00:48:40,030 --> 00:48:42,780 from tomorrow I believe, until Friday. 971 00:48:42,850 --> 00:48:45,820 And you can get tickets online. I think I put a link to it in my 972 00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:49,100 tweet, but it's not just myself, it's. 973 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,820 We have a handful of other artists on it as well which 974 00:48:53,830 --> 00:48:56,590 Breeder has helped curate and they all have amazing pieces of 975 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,870 art, but I would strongly recommend everyone cheques out. 976 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,950 I think most of them are selling additions which actually 977 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,110 launched today, but we have Vittorio Bon Apache, Claire 978 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,490 McGuire. We have Art Jedi who did a drop 979 00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:16,710 for Stubbs a few weeks ago. We have Ishka, Guha, I Sam, Leo 980 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:22,650 Crane and Monomoy as well. So I'm I'm joined by some 981 00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:25,360 amazing artists for the first crypto art exhibition at Saatchi 982 00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:28,410 Gallery which I think we've done a fantastic job to curate and 983 00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,820 get off the ground. But it's a it's really cool to 984 00:49:30,830 --> 00:49:32,980 see. I think it's like I'm really pro 985 00:49:33,150 --> 00:49:37,310 these big art events and bridging the gaps and I think 986 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,160 that's what this is doing. I love that. 987 00:49:39,170 --> 00:49:40,590 By the way. Is this surprise, the pub you 988 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,680 took me to last time I was here? We went to the surprise for a 989 00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:45,400 pint, yeah. Hell yeah. 990 00:49:45,410 --> 00:49:51,970 That's probably went to, yeah. I think I'm pretty sure. 991 00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:56,180 Yeah it's it's a great pub. I mean back to you agreed. 992 00:49:56,190 --> 00:50:00,900 I mean the the the the theme you know the first NFT crypto art 993 00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:04,700 exhibition at Saatchi. I mean this is this is really 994 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:07,380 not a small deal like this is one of those things where the 995 00:50:07,390 --> 00:50:11,060 bull market you have everybody tweeting probably nothing OK And 996 00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:13,160 you can go refer back to all these thread. 997 00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:15,380 It wasn't just I didn't realise you had written an entire thread 998 00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:17,500 of all of this but guida among give it back to you. 999 00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:19,780 I mean, you've done an incredible job creating this, 1000 00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:22,850 this, this, and and and honestly, you deserve a lot of 1001 00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:25,450 flowers for that, Greta. And and and and Thank you for 1002 00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:27,430 putting all these artists on, but talk to us more about, you 1003 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,950 know, what's gonna happen over the next three days in London at 1004 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,920 the Such gallery. Yeah, so thank you to all our 1005 00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:37,850 artists who really joined our exhibition teams by a team by 1006 00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:40,080 London. So all our artists, they are 1007 00:50:40,090 --> 00:50:43,540 based in London of course. W staff, we have a clear maker 1008 00:50:43,870 --> 00:50:49,890 Mono. Ukraine is the AI system and 1009 00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:53,680 there are artists and actually this show is happening during 1010 00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:57,460 the focus at fair and they're they're happening at Touch 1011 00:50:57,470 --> 00:50:59,640 gallery and they are partnered culture. 1012 00:50:59,810 --> 00:51:02,720 They are partners shipping together and then this they 1013 00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:07,560 invited us and they gave us 6 metres wall and they asked me. 1014 00:51:09,110 --> 00:51:12,380 Do whatever you want. So bringing this star and crypto 1015 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:16,110 right here so injecting web three blood in the picture 1016 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,850 tradition art field for me it's a it's a big part I think. 1017 00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:21,860 Yep. Thank. 1018 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:22,750 You. I love that. 1019 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,170 So it looks like we'll be talking about 4:40. 1020 00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:28,170 I think I'm getting, I'm personally getting mixed up at 1021 00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:30,490 4:45, so I'll be talking. All rights are dead. 1022 00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:34,470 Worthless. That's gonna be the pattern was 1023 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,180 speaking on. I'm not sure who with yet, but 1024 00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:39,820 it looks like it's a whole bunch of beautiful people. 1025 00:51:39,830 --> 00:51:42,960 So if you're around, like definitely try to come to that 1026 00:51:43,170 --> 00:51:44,880 for the event is gonna be amazing. 1027 00:51:44,890 --> 00:51:49,320 The open hours from 11:00 to 7:00 PM on the 5th focus Friday 1028 00:51:49,330 --> 00:51:53,720 is 12 to 9:00 PM on the 6th, and then open hours 11:00 to 6:00 PM 1029 00:51:54,010 --> 00:51:56,380 on the 7th as well. Great if if someone's interested 1030 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:58,170 in coming in and and visiting what? 1031 00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:03,050 What do they have to do here? You could just see me or find 1032 00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:05,590 Yam Gallery and just gaming demos. 1033 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,090 Then I will give you the tickets. 1034 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,050 Actually it's kind of paid one, but for us, we have three seats 1035 00:52:11,060 --> 00:52:14,370 for our battery family, so they could really come freely. 1036 00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:18,590 And just the last thing, I just wanted to say that this affair 1037 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,210 goes for four days and then thanks to you Farooq, we have a 1038 00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:25,690 panel talk on the 5th October. Please don't be late. 1039 00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:29,570 It's from 4:00 to 6:00, so we will talk about. 1040 00:52:29,620 --> 00:52:32,500 Yeah, worthless. And if there's a dead who feels 1041 00:52:32,510 --> 00:52:35,760 that they start ecosystem. So we have a panel talk on 5th 1042 00:52:35,830 --> 00:52:40,120 and the special days. I created a special exhibition 1043 00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:42,800 for our collectors. Now we have bacillus. 1044 00:52:42,860 --> 00:52:45,640 You should come up because I will. 1045 00:52:45,690 --> 00:52:48,120 Yeah. So collectors exhibition will be 1046 00:52:48,130 --> 00:52:49,750 a service. Yes, go ahead. 1047 00:52:51,250 --> 00:52:51,970 Nothing. I mean I think. 1048 00:52:51,980 --> 00:52:53,950 I think this is awesome and I know how hard you work and I 1049 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,150 supercilious in the audience and obviously legendary and iconic 1050 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,670 collector in the space. So there's All Star. 1051 00:53:00,740 --> 00:53:02,350 Ohh there he is. There he is. 1052 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,790 Let me get him up on stage real quick to hear his thoughts here. 1053 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,650 But I know punk 6529 Basilius. VD. 1054 00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:11,170 Sandbox Jean-Michel. I mean Michael Payne's gonna be 1055 00:53:11,180 --> 00:53:12,160 here. Hell yeah. 1056 00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:15,770 WCC Seed Phrase. John Carp Mondo Arden Poco. 1057 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,590 They're going to have their work exhibited. 1058 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,580 I mean the the work that they've collected exhibited and 1059 00:53:20,590 --> 00:53:21,920 Basilius, let me let me go to you. 1060 00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:23,670 I mean. The collector, maybe you could 1061 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,870 talk to us the importance of Saatchi Gallery doing such an 1062 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,720 event. Well, thanks. 1063 00:53:28,730 --> 00:53:33,580 I mean, yeah, I mean, I was just floored, you know, when when 1064 00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:35,500 Rita talked about this opportunity. 1065 00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:39,300 I mean, you know, this is clearly a big, another big 1066 00:53:39,310 --> 00:53:43,520 milestone for crypto art. And you know, you know, it's a 1067 00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:45,680 collector, right? I mean, now it's just a 1068 00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:48,680 collector, but, you know, you know, almost four years ago, 1069 00:53:48,690 --> 00:53:49,760 right? I mean, we're all just sort of 1070 00:53:49,770 --> 00:53:52,340 having fun. But you know, I got the bug, and 1071 00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:55,700 I've been doing something or thinking about or or engaging 1072 00:53:55,710 --> 00:54:00,560 crypto art every day since and. So to see this kind of evolution 1073 00:54:00,770 --> 00:54:03,150 of it is just amazing. And I mean I haven't done a lot 1074 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,600 with PFP stuff obviously I I've done, the only thing I've done 1075 00:54:06,610 --> 00:54:09,860 is the Broadside NFT with Vector Meldrew which I've just love. 1076 00:54:09,870 --> 00:54:12,820 But everything else is just about art, you know? 1077 00:54:12,830 --> 00:54:15,800 It's only durable part of this whole thing in my opinion and 1078 00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:19,720 and I'm just so happy to see this milestone and just amazed 1079 00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:24,660 at at the the quality of work, the depth of insight that 1080 00:54:24,670 --> 00:54:28,020 greeter brings to this. And of course John Karp who 1081 00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:30,560 introduced me to Greta. You know, while we're back. 1082 00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:33,900 So yeah, I'm just super happy to see it and and I just want to 1083 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:37,060 congratulate Greta again. It's just an amazing 1084 00:54:37,070 --> 00:54:40,430 achievement. Hell yeah this is awesome. 1085 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,050 This is all good vibes. I can't wait in the beautiful 1086 00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:49,410 City of London at the Iconics. I mean, even look I'm not artist 1087 00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:52,210 and I'm definitely not a collector of the size of 1088 00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:55,350 Basilius and all the other top collectors though I'm very proud 1089 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,330 like OSPF collector, almost have like 50 pieces now but but, but 1090 00:54:59,340 --> 00:55:03,790 but as just someone like just telling people what I'm speaking 1091 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,790 at the statue gallery about NFT is just like, I don't know it's 1092 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,910 felt special so if even from my perspective. 1093 00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:11,640 Just being there to speak was like whoa. 1094 00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:13,940 And even when I told people were like, whoa, that's crazy. 1095 00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:16,280 And I guess I don't even understand it as much as they 1096 00:55:16,290 --> 00:55:18,080 did. And then I read all these three 1097 00:55:18,090 --> 00:55:20,000 and I was like, ohh shit if all he's writing a thread about 1098 00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:22,690 this. You know, it's a big deal, you 1099 00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:25,770 know? Thank you. 1100 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,780 So again, Basilius, thanks for popping up last second here. 1101 00:55:28,790 --> 00:55:30,440 I really appreciate you and of course everything. 1102 00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:32,030 Are you gonna be there personally or you? 1103 00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:33,950 I'm gonna get to meet you finally or. 1104 00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:38,440 Ohh, you know, I would love to. That's like this is going to be 1105 00:55:38,450 --> 00:55:43,650 the formal event of the year for me and no, I we we, my wife and 1106 00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:48,160 I, we are Europe already three times this year and I still have 1107 00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:50,710 to work. So I mean, maybe I don't have to 1108 00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:54,890 have to, but I like to and and I I just can't do it. 1109 00:55:54,970 --> 00:55:57,420 I I just, I would love to have been to it. 1110 00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:58,950 Yeah. Super FOMO for me. 1111 00:55:59,020 --> 00:56:01,190 You'll be there at heart. No worries. 1112 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:03,090 Maybe this is science because it's anonymous. 1113 00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,650 We don't know. We'll never know. 1114 00:56:04,660 --> 00:56:06,970 I'll just assume that Basilius is in the room. 1115 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,650 Ohh yeah, actually yeah. I have to say, I'm gonna be 1116 00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:13,390 there. I think before you cut it was 1117 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,390 gonna say that. Greta, thank you so much. 1118 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,130 I appreciate you love. You will always support you. 1119 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,850 We will always support, yes, for sure everything you do. 1120 00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:24,800 Because you do a great job for the comedian, for the space in 1121 00:56:24,810 --> 00:56:26,450 general. So I'll see you for big hugs 1122 00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:29,270 tomorrow. Thank you. 1123 00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:32,820 I just wanted to shout out some names that you know my friends 1124 00:56:32,830 --> 00:56:34,580 who really helped out this exhibition. 1125 00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:37,700 I think we really make this exhibition together, especially 1126 00:56:37,710 --> 00:56:41,820 Asiana from rock radio. She really helped me to go see 1127 00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:45,160 Phrase and WhatsApp as well and she brought like everything 1128 00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:47,500 happened. She's just a gem. 1129 00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:51,680 I really want to thank her and Darren here to hook a 6529 of 1130 00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:56,190 course and Rob, he managed every drop on us today. 1131 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,480 We have foundation main page for our jobs, so please. 1132 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,670 When tech and a new frame without their frames this show 1133 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,870 cannot happen. So thanks to be framed to 1134 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,690 support the screens. And all the friends who really 1135 00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:12,770 give us ours and lianas meet tomorrow at such a gallery. 1136 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:15,980 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 1137 00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:17,730 I love that. I love that. 1138 00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:18,230 Thank you. Great. 1139 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,030 I appreciate you. However, I guess you picking me 1140 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,290 up at 6:00 in the morning still. Yeah, let's do it. 1141 00:57:25,180 --> 00:57:27,590 Let's do a little little round of golf with the lads. 1142 00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:29,830 By the way, May need a sweater. I forgot to bring one again. 1143 00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:31,960 I have plans this time. Yeah, I got you. 1144 00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:34,380 I was gonna call you to tell you that, but I figured I'm. 1145 00:57:34,430 --> 00:57:36,200 I'm on live with you and I'll tell you this year. 1146 00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:38,320 So I guess I'll see you on the golf course, then I'll see you 1147 00:57:38,330 --> 00:57:41,260 at the Statue of VIP event, and then I'll see you on stage 1148 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:42,280 tomorrow. I'll be fine. 1149 00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:45,800 And with that, with that, with that, that close, another great 1150 00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:46,420 episode. Jim. 1151 00:57:46,430 --> 00:57:48,660 Web 3 on Rugby radio. We'll see you all tomorrow 1152 00:57:48,670 --> 00:57:50,240 morning at 10:30 Eastern Standard Time. 1153 00:57:50,250 --> 00:57:53,960 But as usual, this show is powered by Kraken NFT Shot to 1154 00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:56,820 Kraken. So kraken.com/rug radio. 1155 00:57:56,830 --> 00:57:58,410 If you're outside, by the way, don't be shy. 1156 00:57:58,420 --> 00:58:00,500 Come say hi. Big hugs, big love. 1157 00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:02,250 Obviously what's up. And with that, we'll see you 1158 00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:03,310 tomorrow morning. Peace. 1159 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,310 How you'll love.