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Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning GMG. 

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Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, 
Thursday Wrecked October 12, 

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2023. 
Look at that. 

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Another beautiful day to have a 
beautiful day. 

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The sun absolutely stopped 
shining in London, England. 

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I think my magic touch over this
wonderful city has played its 

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course. 
You know, it is what it is. 

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But guys, I can only bring you 
so much sunshine, OK? 

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I've been doing it for like 
almost for two weeks now, you 

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know, it's been two weeks of 
summer in October. 

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Here we get it. 
Yeah, yeah, Portugal's great. 

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I got my coast and Mando, how 
you guys doing this morning? 

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I'm tired. 
I was just like I was just 

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drawing on my iPad and I just 
passed out. 

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And. 
Then, like, hold up the guns 

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these days. 
Yeah, OK, My muscles are getting

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in the way. 
You know, it was time that he 

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was saying that he has trouble, 
like washing his hair, like when

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he like. 
I just. 

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Feel it. 
I could feel it in the shower, 

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like I was trying to like, get 
back, I. 

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Don't know man. 
Gonna try to like wash. 

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Sorry. 
I mean, what's your boss? 

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Fine. 
It's probably the the top back, 

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you know? 
Now his wife has to come and 

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scrub the top of his back, you 
know, because he can't, like, 

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wash his back anymore. 
Like she has to help him, like 

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shower because his guns are too 
big. 

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It's gonna be tough for him to 
get back to golfing. 

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Let me tell you that because the
size of his upper chest and the 

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swing with his bicep, it's going
to be really tough one. 

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But it's OK. 
You'll get the hang of it. 

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Actually, what's your weight 
now? 

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Have you have you managed to 
gain the weight? 

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Gain weight in at 68.1 today. 
Wow. 

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So basically there. 
Yeah. 

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So you got what kilos you you 
gained 2 kilos? 

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I've gained 2 kilos, Yeah. 
I mean, I don't know. 

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It it always varies but like the
trend is higher so I don't know 

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if like it was just because it 
was like pre morning dump or 

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something I did, I did. 
Didn't believe myself before 

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weighing myself, but sometimes 
don't get it all out to you. 

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So yeah, no, listen. 
Yeah, that we took. 

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OK, Mando, how about you? 
How are you doing today? 

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I'm doing good. 
Yeah, good. 

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That's great. 
You're looking good. 

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Let me tell you like you're 
looking, you're looking great. 

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It looks like you've recovered 
pretty fast. 

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Yeah, now I'd recovered by 
Monday for sure. 

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It was one of those ones I just 
couldn't even think straight. 

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Like I don't even have to 
describe it but like it's like 

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that. 
I guess your head I, I could 

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tell you not thinking straight 
based on your bearishness the 

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other day. 
So I that's why I was like, let 

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me just step aside, you know I 
was like this is not the great 

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man, though that was the wreck 
Mando. 

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But it looks like the great 
Mando is back, if, you know, you

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know, I mean, the great man was.
The great Mando. 

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Yeah Freeman though bring him 
back. 

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He he looks back though. 
I gotta tell you look like you 

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look like you're shining right 
now. 

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So we love to see that 
especially the setup. 

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I know it's looking better off 
the last setup. 

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It's probably, I know you say 
it's different room but I don't 

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know something going on like you
look relaxed love to see it and 

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the man dominates are about to 
get to 2500 subscribers. 

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I saw that yesterday so we're 
almost there. 

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Where you at 24 ish? 
Umm, I need to double check. 

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I need to double check. 
Yeah, something like that. 

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Something like 2500 on the show 
today. 

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Y'all mandamus.com. 
Make sure you subscribe, 

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Alright? 
Make sure you do that if you do 

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something good for yourself 
today. 

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Today is actually the the 
cartoon today by ballerinas. 

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I mean it's it's supposed to be 
Caroline Ellison, but toy looks 

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like me. 
Yeah, I didn't notice that until

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until you mentioned it. 
I was like, wow, dude. 

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I was like, this ain't I'm like,
this ain't Caroline, this is me.

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I thought it was hilarious. 
Hold on, let me pull it up on 

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the screen right now real quick.
It's it's actually scary how how

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much I look like like like his 
caricature. 

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I think he's been listening to 
the show too much has definitely

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me. 
This is so good. 

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Oh my 
We have to cover it again today.

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Chinese bribes, Thai hookers, 
them trying to screw the Saudis 

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over and a bunch of other 
stories which are wild Pokémon 

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cards trading on Magic Eden now.
Great move by Magic, even if you

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ask me. 
Stars Arena funds recovered. 

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And last but not least, of 
course we'll be joined by the FT

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Paris team to talk about what 
they're up to as well be media 

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partner next year again and as 
usual, this show is powered by 

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cracking. 
NFT. 

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Go to kraken.com/rug Radio. 
Actually start crying, Cracking.

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It's a great tweet by Jesse 
Right founder talking about how 

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like people were saying that 
like, Coinbase and Cracker were 

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not competitive anymore based on
how fast FTX was growing with 

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like 120th of the employees they
had and that it should have been

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maybe a signal that like 
something's going wrong around 

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there. 
So I don't know. 

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I just saw this tweet like 
before coming on, so I thought 

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it was ironic and looking back 
at it, it's like, I don't know, 

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I've been looking at a lot of F 
like SBF interviews in the last 

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48 hours and I'm like, how could
we not tell? 

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I don't know, I feel stupid 
sometimes, but it's it's pretty 

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wild. 
But anyways, so let's start with

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topic number one, let's start 
with the market. 

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I mean I'll be stopping on 
market side today. 

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So it's not looking too great. 
Yeah, I mean, well, look. 

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Macro is is actually doing fine.
Yesterday's stocks were up day 

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before stocks were up. 
They've had a pretty good 

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rebound in the last in the last 
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Today we had inflation, so the 
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versus expectations with 3.6% 
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Core inflation came in lower but
longer expectations. 

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So it seems like, I know 
obviously geopolitical sessions 

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situation is not great, but it 
seems like things are kind of 

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like OK ish macro wise. 
There's been a massive, massive 

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underperformance of crypto 
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You know, Bitcoin looks weak 
here. 

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It's down to 26.6, Ether is at 
1540 and it just feels like the 

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path of least resistance is 
lower on the microphone. 

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I would say interest rates are 
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We're about 15 basis points 
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across the curve this morning 
because of that inflation 

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number, so. 
But remember, we rallied that 

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much a few days ago. 
So that's just a reversal. 

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But yeah, I don't know. 
I don't know what it will take 

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to change like this. 
Dark cloud that that feels like 

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that feels like it's over crypto
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We need some positive headlines 
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gonna get any until maybe this 
Friday. 

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I don't know. 
That was tomorrow. 

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Tomorrow. 
Tomorrow. 

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Tomorrow. 
Yeah, tomorrow. 

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It's. 
Gonna be a positive headline, 

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but it feels like the sort of 
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we still have to wait till 
January. 

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So. 
I don't know, there's an article

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here. 
I took it from your minute 

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saying arcs amended spot Bitcoin
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future approval. 
ARK Invest and 21 shares amended

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spot Bitcoin ETF filing 
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concern highlighted by the SEC, 
which is a good sign of progress

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according to Bloomberg's It's F 
And then there's this tweet 

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which I know you guys went back 
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So kind of curious to hear both 
your takes here, This crypto 

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Rover guy saying all Bitcoin 
spot ETF's might be approved 

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this Friday. 
And here's why. 

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I do think that's a little 
intense. 

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But again, let's ask the experts
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Mando, what do you think about 
tomorrow's ETF approvals? 

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Then I'll go to you about that. 
I actually agree with what I'll 

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be saying, so there's no there's
no real debate here, but. 

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Basically, for years the SEC's 
main reason for blocking ETFs 

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has been the market 
manipulation, the market 

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monitoring. 
That is why the grayscale ETF 

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was blocked. 
If they do not appeal them 

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losing the ability to block it 
on that. 

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Then they're going to have to 
come up with some sort of Hail 

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Mary, other big reason to block 
all these ETFs. 

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So people are basically saying 
that if tomorrow gets approved 

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or doesn't, sorry doesn't get 
appealed. 

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Then it's highly likely that the
ETFs are done. 

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I don't think you can say like 
it's they're fully done, but it 

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would be, it would mean the SEC 
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sort of. 
New reason and they're fighting 

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a whole industry then of people 
that can potentially take them 

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for a lawsuit, not just 
grayscale. 

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So I think, I think it puts the 
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position to continue to block 
these if that happens. 

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So I think people will basically
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tomorrow, it's green light, 
we're done, we're good to go, 

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but they won't actually formally
happen until January. 

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OK. 
Yeah, it's pretty much seems 

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like in line with opening two of
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add anything on that, but seems 
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Yeah, alright. 
Yeah, I completely agree. 

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Like I think we could see a good
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I think it would be if they 
don't appeal. 

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It's a good headline, but it's 
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it just feels like it's not 
strong enough headlined to 

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transcend us. 
Like maybe we bounce a little 

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bit and then we just don't 
really move. 

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We saw that back off again, but 
it's still a positive. 

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That, but we need more. 
We need more to get us moving, I

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think, yeah. 
It's weird. 

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It says Ovi. 
Very, very low volume. 

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You haven't mic issues again, I 
don't know what's going on. 

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Is it? 
Are you? 

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Keep people who have been 
complaining since complaints 

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since yesterday about that. 
Weird. 

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It's. 
Because you found you sound 

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great to me, but you sound great
to me too. 

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You sound yeah. 
Ohh wait. 

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Go to settings let's do it. 
Let's troubleshoot. 

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I wanna go to settings, go to 
audio, is your echo cancellation

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and noise suppression on? 
They're both on, yeah? 

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And then your stereo audio input
off and then it's high 

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resolution audio on and auto 
gain control off. 

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Yeah, that's those are the 
settings I have right now. 

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Is audio gain control off? 
Yeah, it's automatically off. 

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It's a YouTube things people are
saying but you sound space 

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search great and it's weird. 
It's only over, it seems like, 

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but it's only Ovy on YouTube 
which makes no sense. 

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How? 
And you turned up. 

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You're not here on the road 
Caster right? 

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I'm up on the road. 
Caster Yeah. 

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And we all use the same mic in 
the same seating. 

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Used to have problems with 
restream. 

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Remember we had three people on.
Sometimes it just like hmm I I 

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don't yeah it's it's the it's 
it's it's a YouTube thing. 

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Anyways, I I don't think it's 
worth. 

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And these guys always the one 
who usually speaks at least. 

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So you guys are fine. 
Exactly. 

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But you sound great. 
Are you Like maybe you're 

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speaking maybe like you got so 
beef. 

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Like your voice is not coming 
out as well. 

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Like, is that maybe a thing? 
My muscles, that marks us. 

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It's good. 
You should have seen his upper 

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chest. 
I'm not kidding. 

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You know people will get beef 
and have like a big largest this

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motherfuckers up. 
Just like like like, you know, 

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he could probably do the thing 
like, you know, like, you know 

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when it goes like. 
Don't, don't, don't. 

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Yeah, trying to. 
He's thinking about it. 

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Wait. 
Wait for us real quick. 

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What do you? 
What do they? 

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Make your pecks dance. 
I don't know if I can do that. 

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Come on ohh. 
You're not gonna win this fight.

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Ohh, we got it working better. 
Let down. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah you are. 

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Let me let you up on stage here.
You are being let down right 

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now. 
We just need to we just need to 

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work on the Peck dancing or else
you know we're not gonna win 

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this fight And so we think now 
just so you know it's. 

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It's the name of this guy again,
who we who we find. 

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I don't even know his name, bro.
That's crazy smart. 

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Dock staff. 
We have a pre fight press 

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conference. 
Name is the doxed 5000 followers

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and launched A token towards 
Zoomer Coin. 

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Like the Shitcoin dev? 
Yeah, zoomer coin. 

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The docks Dev, it's like, it's 
just a shit. 

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It's not. 
It's not a very like. 

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Names. 
Are they gonna go down like his 

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chart? 
That's that's that. 

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Save that for the pre fight 
chat. 

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I'm wondering why the pre fight 
chat is on is on stage like we 

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should broadcast it on radio or 
something? 

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Have quite good. 
This is it. 

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Like, get the yeah picture of 
the chart. 

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But like, you gotta sleep in 
first and then we'll have like 

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our editors behind the scenes 
like make like a like a thing. 

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I didn't know it was just three,
three rounds of two minutes. 

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So you're gonna have to go like,
it's like MMA style. 

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Like you have to call it. 
Yeah, yeah. 3 rounds, 2 minutes 

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each Mando. 
So we're flying like 24 hours to

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the EU for six minutes. 
Five. 

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My God ohh, it's French. 
In French is EU, yeah, that's 

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why it spells you anyways, so 
that's that. 

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There's gonna be another draw or
something, isn't it? 

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Like we're gonna come all the 
way there and be a fucking draw.

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No, I'm not. 
I'm not fighting for a draw. 

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That's right. 
That way. 

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That's my boy. 
No, that's no draws in this. 

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I'm either gonna get floored or 
something. 

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One of those, one of the hours 
there. 

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Yeah it it's why the others 
anyways. 

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Anyways, topping that with two 
here will be. 

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Clear Mean Docs dev just refers 
to the concept that he's 

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basically been found out as a 
shitcoin dev, like a shitcoin 

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rugger. 
So he's basically saying he's a 

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rugger. 
But everyone knows who he is. 

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Is that is that what we're 
getting out for the name? 

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I don't know. 
I I I didn't look into the guy. 

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I'm not bothering. 
I think he's proudly doxed. 

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Unbelievable. 
He's dogs, he's, I mean he's 

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been the one putting these 
fights together for a while. 

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Like he's part of the crippling 
like yeah, yeah, he's one of 

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the, he's one of the organisers 
man. 

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Those views are are his own and 
not Oh my I made my entire team 

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put opinions on my on their bio 
like 2 weeks ago you get on the 

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field as the title top type. 
I changed my own thing too, you 

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know, it's just how it is, you 
know. 

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Had to do that after the whole 
like you know, Polly thing. 

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Anyways, so anyway, so Caroline.
Then again, Caroline. 

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Caroline got you somewhere. 
Got you. 

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Coming up. 
Yeah. 

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Caroline. 
Caroline. 

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Ohh, Caroline, you're right. 
I mean. 

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As well everyone's done. 
The other song, the, you know, 

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sweet this one. 
This one's better. 

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You gotta go for this one. 
I actually, I think I I 

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actually, I agree with you. 
It was. 

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I used to always play the Sweet 
Caroline song and when you 

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called me out before the show, 
SA said no, that's the Caroline 

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song we need to be playing. 
I forgot to do it yesterday. 

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But after yesterday's Triumph 
notes that we receive, we had to

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run it back to that and we said 
we wouldn't talk about trial 

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every day. 
But this is crazy, like this is 

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too big to pass up on. 
The FX drama continues, and 

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Netflix is no doubt already 
drafting a movie at this stage, 

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and that movie is going to be 
something different. 

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So Caroline Ellison of FTX 
admits that Sam bribed Chinese 

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officials with $100 million to 
unfreeze their assets, purposely

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tried to scam Saudi investors in
the final days of FTX, and 

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intentionally try to SAIC 
regulators on Binance to destroy

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his competition. 
And that was only by lunchtime 

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per Autism Capital here. 
It's absolutely crazy. 

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And there's a whole story of 
them not being able to create 

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more accounts. 
They had a bunch of Thai hookers

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literally create accounts for 
them where, like, they would use

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them as like a proxy to be able 
to trade and everything. 

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So between $100 million to China
to bribe them and trying to 

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screw the Saudis, these people 
probably should wish to get life

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in prison because they're not. 
They're going to have life at 

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the bottom of some CI mean man. 
Have you followed yesterday's 

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trials and tribulations? 
Crazy. 

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Yeah, I saw it. 
I mean, I think you're gonna see

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I saw the thing today that while
the the chat, do you see the 

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thing where right now with 
cobbler, chiller, right? 

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Shared. 
The back and forth, we should 

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get that chat up. 
That's wild. 

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Yeah. 
One second. 

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I'll have it ready. 
Boom. 

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All right, here we go. 
There's the chat. 

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Oh, my God, this is crazy. 
So we have a chat here posted by

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cold blooded shiller Caroline 
Ellison. 

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That was that signal. 
Yeah, it's that it does. 

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Look the signal. 
Uh, government exhibit 44113. 

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A Caroline Ellison. 
Think I'm gonna tweet at CZ that

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we will bite off from him at 
$22.00. 

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Any objections? 
And you have Benji that goes. 

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I can imagine that hurting might
be better if the market is 

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willing to buy for $22.00 rather
than the affiliate. 

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But not strongly opposed then 
scam Bankman Fried answers. 

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I think the main point is just 
to counter the PR narrative here

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and Binance probably won't take 
us up on it. 

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I also think, for what it's 
worth, that the market is likely

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to buy more. 
We tweet, but I don't know, 

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Caroline goes, I'm about to 
tweet, NFT will go up and then 

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Sam goes guessing. 
It makes sense to speed up 

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freeing up capital, seeing 
significant withdrawals. 

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The next the next bit of the 
tweet, just go, go, go side, 

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hold on, what? 
What next bit? 

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Hit the the next arrow. 
Yeah, she put it out. 

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Yeah, and that's the tweet that 
went out right When she goes, if

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you looking to minimise the 
market impacting after two cells

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Alameda will happily buy it for 
you for $22.00. 

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I'll never forget that tweet. 
I remember Lily reading this and

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being like, holy shit stuff is 
crazy. 

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I mean, man, have you followed 
more of this What? 

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What's your what's your read on 
all this insane time occurs 

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China. 
Saudi. 

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Someone going to make a movie 
about this shit, right? 

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This feels a bit Wolf of Wall 
Street style, like clearly 

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setting up crypto exchanges is. 
Involves a lot of shady deals 

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and a lot of different 
countries. 

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Like by nature you're moving 
money from like hundreds of 

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different ohh sorry 10s of 
different countries. 

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Um, so you to actually get set 
up you're gonna have to like pay

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people off. 
The hundred. 

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I think I saw $150 million, 
maybe even for the bribe. 

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That's just kind of wild, but 
maybe not uncommon in this 

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industry. 
Like, who the fuck knows what 

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Justin Sun has done to get out 
of prison and what CZ is 

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probably doing? 
Right now, like these people are

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probably paying off a lot of 
people, a lot of different 

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countries. 
So I was less surprised by that.

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It is. 
It's it's just funny to like 

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peel back the lid or something. 
So like this though you do see 

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how how crazy some of the 
running or some of this stuff is

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like you get taste of it in the 
NFT space. 

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Like when you peel back the lid 
of any NFT project you're 

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probably going to see some like 
these are not normal functioning

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offices or like organisations 
like you would expect to. 

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You're not dealing with like 
Goldman Sachs. 

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You'd normally just dealing with
like a with like 10 to let's say

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15 people just running around 
clueless, putting out. 

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Buyers. 
Yeah, I've seen that a lot with 

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a pretty good marketing front 
and I think that's kind of what 

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we're getting to see a little 
bit here with with FT. 

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I mean, the craziest part out of
all this was this to me. 

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Like, I think this is something 
we all assumed and knew of, but 

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it wasn't confirmed. 
Like Sam, Bankman Fried and 

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Caroline Ellison conspired to 
keep Bitcoin under 20K by 

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secretly selling Bitcoin 
belongings to the customers. 

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And so if at any point in time 
you thought you were a bad 

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trader, just so you know, you 
were all good traders, you were 

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all fantastic traders. 
You were just getting wrecked on

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the way up and down. 
So pretty much on the way up, 

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they were like pumping the 
market. 

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So like wrecking everyone that 
was short the other way down, 

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they were doing the same thing 
and they still lost at their own

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game. 
I think this headline though is 

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a bit confusing. 
Why I read into the story, it 

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makes it sound like they're 
doing it for their own gain. 

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And actually what they're 
basically saying is they sold 

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all the Bitcoin on FTX's balance
sheet and that's what kept it 

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below 20 K They're not saying 
like, oh, we did it as market 

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manipulation to try and get it 
higher. 

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So I read that, I read the story
and I was like what you're 

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really just saying is they 
liquidated their Bitcoin. 

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I think that's all it was. 
It wasn't like they they they 

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were, I mean they definitely did
corner manipulate markets. 

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But this is more just like 
Bitcoin is making it about them.

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Like they didn't. 
They just had to sell their 

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Bitcoin. 
Wow. 

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So they were desperate to sign. 
I'm reading. 

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And they had to. 
They they just had to just like,

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nuke Bitcoin. 
Man, this is so crazy. 

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I mean, it's just getting 
crazier and crazier every day. 

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I I gotta say, I'm really 
enjoying Elon Musk like 

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partaking in like into the 
whole, like, conversation here 

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on Twitter. 
He's been like, really 

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commenting on almost everything 
and like, bring it to light. 

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It's just, it's just for me, 
like the bribes and everything 

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and all that stuff. 
That's just wild, dude. 

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It's just wild. 
Did you read that they were 

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trying to raise $5 billion in 
one world's bribe is another 

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world's political donation. 
You know, right. 

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This is the way that some 
countries work, like, yeah, 

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you'll pay in the US, there's 
this wild, wild paying to 

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politicians. 
And everyone was like, well, no,

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that's actually a political 
donation. 

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So it's it's slightly different 
and there's massive lobbying, 

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but like, when it's in China, 
it's a bribe. 

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I think there's bribery 
everywhere. 

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Yeah. 
It's it it it's just crazy. 

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There's just so much going on. 
I mean, here's the thing about 

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the the the Thai prostitutes. 
It was from Tiffany Fong. 

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Caroline Ellison just testified 
that Thai prostitutes were 

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involved in an attempt to regain
access to a billion dollars of 

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Alameda funds frozen by the 
Chinese government. 

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Yeah. 
So they were using them as a 

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proxy and then they had to pay 
the bribe. 

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I know. 
And like it's it's like it's 

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just also shows you like how 
deep like the CCP was involved 

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also in like Alameda and 
everything. 

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And like China, it's it's just 
like this whole thing is 

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uncovering there right now. 
Like she, I think she's 

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testifying as we speak again. 
Right before we jumped on the 

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show and I think Autism Capital 
was just reporting actually 

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something quite interesting and 
ironic. 

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But they're saying Sam's defence
literally can't stop wasting 

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time and repeating themselves. 
They have been told off by 

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George Kaplan for this every 
single day since beginning 

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Capelin even ended trial early 
one day over this out of 

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frustration. 
The cross examinations are a 

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trial in patients, so it's 
actually crazy. 

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And three minutes ago, oh, we 
just got another tweet. 

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After the FTX collapse, police 
raided Caroline Ellison's 

453
00:24:09,010 --> 00:24:12,800
parents house and seized their 
computers and those belongings 

454
00:24:13,690 --> 00:24:18,330
to her boyfriend. 
Another trader at Alameda who 

455
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:19,770
was at the house during the 
raid. 

456
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,040
She has a boyfriend, so she was 
also with somebody else after at

457
00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:26,940
the time. 
There was also Traitor Alameda. 

458
00:24:28,410 --> 00:24:34,080
Caroline, Caroline Ohh my. 
The time. 

459
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:42,860
Then real guys go for real down 
to Mars girls. 

460
00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:46,760
Yeah, I know you'd like to thank
you. 

461
00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:51,160
Shit, don't stay, but leave a 
little bit closer seat. 

462
00:24:52,750 --> 00:25:06,020
Like. 
I think it's the part in the 

463
00:25:06,030 --> 00:25:08,660
song that's so funny. 
I'm trying to see where it comes

464
00:25:08,670 --> 00:25:10,260
up. 
You know the part I'm talking 

465
00:25:10,270 --> 00:25:13,110
about, man. 
Though But but I can't seem to 

466
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,060
find you right though even 
listen to the lyrics. 

467
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:18,660
This is the perfect one. 
This is the perfect one right. 

468
00:25:18,670 --> 00:25:21,940
It's it's just like that's the 
one I know you think your shit 

469
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:23,640
don't stank. 
You know, I saw some people 

470
00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:26,850
coming to a. 
Carolina's defence yesterday. 

471
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:30,010
I, I'm, I'm, I mean obviously 
I'm not partaking in like the 

472
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,450
the physical look bashing part 
of the things. 

473
00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:36,270
But can you even blame people 
for spicing that woman and 

474
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,800
thinking that she's the most 
horrific human being there is? 

475
00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:40,610
Cause like I put a tweet about 
it yesterday. 

476
00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:43,310
Like there was a whole debate 
last night about like. 

477
00:25:44,650 --> 00:25:48,950
How you know you shouldn't bash 
Caroline. 

478
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,070
You shouldn't do this. 
You shouldn't do that. 

479
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,730
But like I have. 
I don't know you guys. 

480
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,570
I I don't want to feel bad for 
Caroline getting bashed on the 

481
00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:59,730
timeline. 
It's like you put yourself in 

482
00:25:59,740 --> 00:26:02,370
that situation. 
You destroyed people's lives. 

483
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,390
They almost sent our industry to
zero at some point, not at 0. 

484
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,670
But you know what I mean? 
Like when the SFX can happened 

485
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,210
like and it made us bleed like 
our businesses depend on this. 

486
00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:13,850
Like you know what I mean? 
And it's like. 

487
00:26:14,610 --> 00:26:16,540
I don't know. 
I I I'm having a really hard 

488
00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:17,720
time. 
I put a tweet out saying I find 

489
00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:20,380
it hard to feel empathy for 
Caroline. 

490
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:22,700
She ruined many people's lives. 
Some of my friends lost 

491
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:24,760
everything they had and they 
caused inciting harm to the 

492
00:26:24,770 --> 00:26:28,260
industry, operate and and and 
live for quite literally, Fuck 

493
00:26:28,270 --> 00:26:30,940
our line. 
Fuck SBF and fuck FTX. 

494
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:33,820
Like do you feel any empathy? 
Like I'm trying. 

495
00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:36,740
I usually do feel I'm using that
guy but she made a wild 

496
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:42,460
statement yesterday which was I 
was thankful when FTX went down 

497
00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:48,350
because it meant I could stop 
lying and I was like what a what

498
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:52,810
a crazy thing to say. 
It's like ohh thank God, thank 

499
00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:55,330
God it's finally blown up so I 
don't have to lie anymore. 

500
00:26:55,340 --> 00:26:56,840
And like she was like, she was 
happy. 

501
00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:58,290
She was relieved that that 
happened. 

502
00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:03,390
I was like, you are just a 
horrific human for that being 

503
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,770
the reason why. 
Like like. 

504
00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:09,070
Yeah, she felt she felt the 
relief because it kept her away 

505
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,130
from lying, right? 
That's what she was saying. 

506
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,030
Yeah. 
Ovi. 

507
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,710
I. 
I you looking at the the AI 

508
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:24,280
thing, that is a wild shot. 
Look at the group chat Sam's. 

509
00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:29,590
Why don't you let us share our 
screen for a second Here my. 

510
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,910
God, this isn't video exclusive.
So if you're an audio, just head

511
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,230
over to YouTube. 
Or just no, I don't mean to head

512
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,830
over to YouTube, just stay on 
Expo. 

513
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,590
We all post every morning. 
We all post the show live on 

514
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,490
Video Strong Eyebrow Game. 
Why? 

515
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:43,670
Why did you do this? 
Like? 

516
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,150
Did you have to do that? 
Like? 

517
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,920
Did you like? 
I don't understand like, wow. 

518
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,930
Can you share? 
Let me share this other one. 

519
00:27:54,260 --> 00:27:56,750
This one. 
Hold on, check this out. 

520
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:08,340
I really want to tweet that, but
I don't want to. 

521
00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:11,520
I don't want to do it this. 
Service just too funny. 

522
00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:14,920
You've got to treat that I think
for Rd should tweet it though, 

523
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:17,310
to be honest. 
I think. 

524
00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:32,200
Caroline. 
Hi, there it is. 

525
00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:37,840
Oh my God. 
I mean, I'm happy to tweet it 

526
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:40,280
out though. 
I mean, is it funny if it comes 

527
00:28:40,290 --> 00:28:41,610
from me or from you guys? 
I don't know. 

528
00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:43,160
We'll figure that out. 
Whichever gets the most 

529
00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:47,770
engagement right. 
The payouts are dry these weeks.

530
00:28:49,330 --> 00:28:53,040
OK, OK, get let's get back onto 
it. 

531
00:28:53,050 --> 00:28:55,920
So topic number three or four or
five or six. 

532
00:28:55,930 --> 00:28:59,780
I forgot what we're on, but it's
a pretty big topic here. 

533
00:29:00,430 --> 00:29:04,980
Pokémon, you know, Magic Eden, 
Magic eating, then Pokémon. 

534
00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:07,220
There's Pokémon cards now on 
Magic Eden. 

535
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:11,090
Is this the future of digital 
collectibles? 

536
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:15,140
So in a tweet yesterday, Magic 
Eden said they're introducing 

537
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:18,100
tokenized digital collectibles, 
a new way to collect. 

538
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,910
On Magic Eden on October 18th, 
the first drop from Collector 

539
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,250
Crypt will feature 100 tokenized
Pokémon cards released a single 

540
00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:30,030
packs. 
Some of the top cars featured in

541
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,970
this drop are so you have a Gym 
Challenge 1st edition, Holo 

542
00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:37,370
Blaines, Charizard #2 at 26% 
Gordon Holder, Charizard, you 

543
00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:40,420
have Power Keepers, Japanese SP 
promos and everything. 

544
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:44,670
I'm going to share it right now 
on on the screen but look like 

545
00:29:44,730 --> 00:29:47,220
this is pretty cool. 
There was another company that's

546
00:29:47,230 --> 00:29:49,700
that's been really popping these
last few weeks. 

547
00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:51,250
It's on the timeline. 
I forgot the name. 

548
00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:53,710
Maybe my you've seen it. 
You've probably like, report on 

549
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,730
it. 
Yeah, they did it on massage, I 

550
00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:57,240
think. 
Yeah, it's on. 

551
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:59,620
It's on Polygon. 
It's been like, really just like

552
00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:03,070
exploding over the last few 
weeks. 

553
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,290
Listen, I'm someone who like the
moment before I got into NFT's, 

554
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:10,990
I was into the Pokémon craze 
like crazy. 

555
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,870
And I mean, I'm, I have 
thousands of cars decision. 

556
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,990
I used to be that guy trying to 
repack and then I found out 

557
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,470
about NFT and I was like, well, 
this is much easier because I 

558
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,720
don't have to like. 
Terry, like like my storage in 

559
00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:26,100
my apartment unit is ridiculous.
It's like boxes on boxes on 

560
00:30:26,110 --> 00:30:27,850
boxes of Pokémon. 
I know what to do with them. 

561
00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:30,100
I have to like go and give them 
or maybe I'll like sell them to 

562
00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:32,140
Gary Vee. 
I don't know. 

563
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:35,880
But it's. 
But you know that's kind of one 

564
00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:38,520
of the things that woke my like 
woke me up towards NFT. 

565
00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:41,140
I was like, oh wait, like this 
is so much easier and better and

566
00:30:41,150 --> 00:30:42,360
I can just store it on the 
Ledger. 

567
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:44,620
What? 
So it's it's much better. 

568
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:46,160
But what do you think about all 
this? 

569
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:50,360
I I think this is by far one of 
the best use cases for crypto. 

570
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,300
And then? 
Have to use there is exactly 

571
00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:54,240
this is this is what I'm talking
about. 

572
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:56,160
Rwas, you're going to hear about
this. 

573
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,650
This is just gonna be what 
everyone's talking about for the

574
00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:02,390
next five years in crypto. 
It's like, what can we tokenise 

575
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,850
and put it on the blockchain? 
This is exactly how you can, 

576
00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:07,130
instead of having to explain to 
somebody that it's like a 

577
00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:09,550
digital collectible or it's a 
digital piece of art that you 

578
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,300
can, this is actually a physical
it's just the ownership is put 

579
00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:14,990
on the blockchain. 
You can trade it easier that 

580
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,990
way. 
So you're going to see so many 

581
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,750
assets do this. 
There's going to be a big land 

582
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,330
grab. 
Who builds the biggest platform 

583
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:23,970
for it? 
Obviously Arcade's been doing a 

584
00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:27,200
lot of lending on based on this 
stuff, the idea of actually 

585
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:29,890
creating these assets. 
It's only, I don't know if you 

586
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,060
remember, but Gary Vee was like 
massively talking this up a few 

587
00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:35,170
years back, like two years ago 
and then never really happened, 

588
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:36,780
never really picked up. 
And now he's starting to see 

589
00:31:36,790 --> 00:31:39,440
people start to get back into it
because maybe some of the 

590
00:31:39,450 --> 00:31:42,230
digital assets haven't really 
exploded in the way that they 

591
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,390
should have. 
Maybe because the PFP markets 

592
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,290
back to what maybe that's like 
that's over this technology. 

593
00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:53,360
At the end of the day, crypto 
doesn't really matter if the 

594
00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:56,740
asset is digitally native or if 
it's physical, all right, 

595
00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:59,980
Remember that, like for 
blockchains to work, they just 

596
00:31:59,990 --> 00:32:04,490
need to be able to trade them 
all the gas, all the fucking why

597
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,310
everything's valuable, why we 
pay for those transactions, just

598
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,080
the trading of these assets. 
So we can put tonnes of assets 

599
00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:12,620
on the chain and we can let them
trade. 

600
00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:14,820
Like the the storage of those 
assets. 

601
00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:16,760
If they're physical, you've got 
to have them normally in a 

602
00:32:16,770 --> 00:32:21,290
location. 
There are locations already, 

603
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:25,380
like a lot of people store 
assets and things like free what

604
00:32:25,390 --> 00:32:29,390
they call free near airports. 
Got the name of them? 

605
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:32,600
Freeports. 
Freeports. 

606
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:36,060
And you can trade them there. 
Otherwise you're gonna have to 

607
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:38,550
build big step storage for these
sort of assets to be able to 

608
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,230
trade it where they could be 
verified. 

609
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,340
But yeah I think it's I think 
it's gonna be a big deal magic 

610
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:47,080
Ian is clearly sees that's the 
future for NFT's crypto. 

611
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:50,040
So I think they've got a shot of
doing it opens he's got a shot 

612
00:32:50,050 --> 00:32:54,100
of doing it. 
Blur, no doubt like they've 

613
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:57,340
built out the length. 
They're just waiting for that 

614
00:32:57,350 --> 00:33:00,250
and the trading for this. 
They are just waiting and 

615
00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:03,480
they're not USA Soiled. 
So that is going to fucking go 

616
00:33:03,490 --> 00:33:04,910
for it. 
I'm telling you right now, 

617
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Blower is going to go huge into 
this. 

618
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,290
That's a I don't think that's a 
bold claim. 

619
00:33:10,330 --> 00:33:12,520
I think that's probably a good 
call and you probably gonna end 

620
00:33:12,530 --> 00:33:15,450
up being right and they're gonna
put the the the loans and stuff 

621
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:19,180
I I can see always smirking 
right now and. 

622
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:21,320
It's just like holding your 
laugh. 

623
00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:24,120
I just see you like more images 
you could tell. 

624
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,880
I I think he's tweeting it out 
like I I think he's put it out. 

625
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:32,990
Let me see. 
Did you put ohh You're doing it 

626
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,970
now. 
She's right now. 

627
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,600
Oh my God. 
OK, I'm gonna repeat it. 

628
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,930
Oh my God, you did. 
I'm the first leg. 

629
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:45,710
I'm the first retweet. 
I'm gonna be the first comedy. 

630
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,510
I hate you. 
Let's have a look at this thing.

631
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,210
I don't even see it though 
Portuguese Wi-Fi so. 

632
00:33:56,530 --> 00:34:02,270
Probably my wife, but anyways, 
it's out there. 

633
00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:04,640
There you go if you all want to 
enjoy the audio. 

634
00:34:04,650 --> 00:34:07,700
Listeners that didn't get to see
what we were just talking about 

635
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:13,000
being a video only exclusive is 
now live and wow, I have a 

636
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:15,260
feeling it's going to the 
numbers too because of course 

637
00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:19,080
fat Oh my God Rug Radio, replied
Farraline. 

638
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:22,540
Good. 
Good. 

639
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,040
Yeah just seems I know it's you 
I'm ever Oh my God and I've just

640
00:34:30,050 --> 00:34:35,190
sent it in the rugby to group 
chat OK the team chat dude same.

641
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:41,719
Please don't fire me. 
Imagine, next thing you know, 

642
00:34:41,770 --> 00:34:45,620
rock radio layoffs as 75% of its
workforce. 

643
00:34:45,630 --> 00:34:50,100
Reason not the bear market. 
Them liking the tweet from OV 

644
00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:54,320
making fun of Farooq. 
You've got to put the You've got

645
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:56,320
the next week's Gotta be the 
merge photo. 

646
00:34:57,010 --> 00:35:02,310
The merge ones are scary in this
way, just put like interesting. 

647
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:10,910
I think you should reply Mandel 
to his tweet with the merge and 

648
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,660
put interesting. 
I'll be even funnier if he has 

649
00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:18,820
done that, is done. 
Oh my 

650
00:35:39,310 --> 00:35:42,980
So may as well, you know, cover 
the fact that a deal with the 

651
00:35:42,990 --> 00:35:47,000
hacker was made and there's been
90%. 

652
00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:51,990
Of the funds for Stars Arena 
have been returned so bullish or

653
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,940
bearish they were in a space the
other day which got like a mixed

654
00:35:56,950 --> 00:36:00,380
reaction had like over 1000 
listeners. 

655
00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:04,160
It seems like they are going to 
delay their their relaunch. 

656
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:09,100
They feel like they can wait out
the Social 5 bear markets going 

657
00:36:09,110 --> 00:36:13,300
on right now and relaunch. 
You obviously got the funds 

658
00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:14,690
back. 
They already had that plugged 

659
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:15,880
though. 
I wasn't really worried about 

660
00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:17,500
that. 
But yeah, I don't know. 

661
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:22,170
It feels as though the ship may 
be sailing away from them if 

662
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,420
they continue to wait so long. 
There was another thing I saw 

663
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:28,490
today which is like a big social
media app which is using crypto 

664
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:32,720
for on onboarding. 
Um, put it onto the I put it 

665
00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:35,280
onto the minute. 
Yeah, it's a it's a it's gonna 

666
00:36:35,290 --> 00:36:39,970
be available on any iOS device 
and it's a Unchained Social 

667
00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:41,590
fact. 
It's called Farcaster. 

668
00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:43,330
Have you heard? 
About this, but I know 

669
00:36:43,340 --> 00:36:45,450
Forecaster, Yeah, yeah, they've 
been around for a very long 

670
00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:47,010
time. 
They're very legit, yeah. 

671
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:49,070
So now they're doing, they're 
doing. 

672
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,290
It's all gonna be on chain. 
I so see. 

673
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:55,080
Like all these apps, right? 
You have Lance of course we all 

674
00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:57,720
know stunning, which I I think 
Lens having a party here in 

675
00:36:57,730 --> 00:37:02,130
London Saturday. 
Anyways, so there's lands. 

676
00:37:02,140 --> 00:37:04,030
The forecasts are just some of 
them that have been like 

677
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,170
building in that arena, you 
know, no pun intended. 4 minute 

678
00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:11,560
now and it seems like they have 
quite some. 

679
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:15,250
Like one of them, the new ones, 
the Social 5 ones. 

680
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:17,100
Like it's all about the token 
people making money fast. 

681
00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:18,830
But I feel like the other ones 
have been actually building 

682
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,760
infrastructure for a long time, 
so I wouldn't be surprised to 

683
00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:24,200
see someone of a return from 
these ones. 

684
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:25,700
So here it is. 
Like actually that's that's 

685
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:27,760
worthy of just talking about 
this for a minute here before I 

686
00:37:27,770 --> 00:37:31,420
move, I move on. 
But Dan Romero I believe is the 

687
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:35,680
founder of Forecaster 
introducing crypto less but on 

688
00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:37,340
chain onboarding for 
forecasters. 

689
00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:40,840
Starting today, Warp Cast allows
anyone with an iOS device to 

690
00:37:40,850 --> 00:37:43,700
sign up for Far Forecaster 
without a pre-existing. 

691
00:37:43,770 --> 00:37:46,930
Call it or any crypto. 
Just a few taps with pass keys 

692
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:51,530
and in app purchases. 
All 1.4 billion iOS users can 

693
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:56,580
use this without any extra work.
Interesting. 

694
00:37:57,590 --> 00:38:00,750
Yeah, I'm both a lot of people 
if it works so. 

695
00:38:01,390 --> 00:38:04,290
Yeah, I mean, sin is put it 
right, he says. 

696
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:06,980
This is the most egalitarian 
thing we've ever seen. 

697
00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:10,580
It's insanely ambitious and if 
it works, can really reshape the

698
00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:17,040
fabric of our system. 
Yeah, you know, he was playing 

699
00:38:17,370 --> 00:38:19,120
sinners. 
Sin is always out there with the

700
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,320
like perfect, like replies. 
But look, seems like there was a

701
00:38:22,330 --> 00:38:26,960
lot of, you know, positive, you 
know, reactions to this, to this

702
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:29,840
news on the timeline and say, 
look, it's gonna happen, it's 

703
00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:32,180
gonna, it's gonna happen. 
Like it's gonna happen. 

704
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:36,060
Like, you know, you're talking 
about Gabby and that going to be

705
00:38:36,070 --> 00:38:37,530
a huge thing. 
And obviously it is. 

706
00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:43,850
Umm, but uh, Social Fi? 
Is not going away and it's not a

707
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:47,470
buzzword you know. 
You know it's it's a sexy word. 

708
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,230
I'm sure like you know it's we 
have to put something redacted 

709
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:55,700
Phi next to everything. 
But social is not going away and

710
00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:57,730
that's going to be a big could 
be one of the biggest onboarding

711
00:38:57,740 --> 00:39:00,030
events for us. 
You have game five Social 5, 

712
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,510
Campfire. 
So it's gonna be interesting to 

713
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,030
see how everything happens. 
Your GameFly you had like the 

714
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,730
the big time token. 
God we totally missed that one. 

715
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,750
Was it added to Coinbase after 
just a week and it runs like 600

716
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,290
million Reacts? 
Yeah, 3X over the last 24 hours.

717
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,950
I have gameplay. 
Gameplay looked OK to me. 

718
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,850
Like, I know I remember when it 
was big. 

719
00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:23,610
I think it's made by the team 
that brought Decentraland, like 

720
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:29,450
a couple of the founders are. 
I was surprised like, you know, 

721
00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:31,510
I know I've been around and have
been. 

722
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,710
It's been being played, but I 
didn't know it was a $600 

723
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:37,150
million token. 
I mean that's higher than than I

724
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,490
would say the vast majority of 
gaming tokens right now. 

725
00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:43,330
Yeah, I mean, look, come, it's 
listening within a week. 

726
00:39:43,580 --> 00:39:46,150
Like, when are we gonna get Pepe
on there, man? 

727
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,650
Like, I'm starting to like, 
dude, my bags, my bags. 

728
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,930
Are you back? 
Still heavy One day. 

729
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,220
One day. 
Kids just leave me in the frog 

730
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:58,580
land. 
I'm still there. 

731
00:39:59,450 --> 00:40:02,450
OK. 
Fragment OK like I haven't 

732
00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:05,360
bought the matching shoes so we 
we we're we're we're strong you 

733
00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:09,560
know Pepe frog strung together. 
And then last but not least I'm 

734
00:40:09,570 --> 00:40:10,910
gonna go to empty Paris in a 
second. 

735
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,180
I think they're in the studio. 
I see them on the Twitter space.

736
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:15,640
I went to freeze masters in the 
end yesterday. 

737
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:18,700
Mando didn't have time to walk 
all the freeze freeze. 

738
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,080
I was on a rush but I just did 
Masters. 

739
00:40:21,090 --> 00:40:23,590
And you're right mind that was 
cool because I you mentioned 

740
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,400
masters at the end, the 
specifically the masters part. 

741
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:33,590
It was sick to see like really 
really really odd artwork and 

742
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,050
everyone just needs to go and 
just look at art for the sake of

743
00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:37,390
it. 
Cause like in the age, I feel 

744
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,150
like in the age of AI and 
digital art you really get to 

745
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,890
appreciate like these old 
paintings even more. 

746
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:47,470
Like I I stared at this painting
for I don't even know how long. 

747
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,490
It's this gorgeous paintings of 
like, ships sailing and there's 

748
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:57,720
the moon, the full moon, and it 
shines light but specifically on

749
00:40:57,730 --> 00:41:00,660
the water on this ship. 
And there's a fire that also 

750
00:41:00,670 --> 00:41:04,710
exactly lits up the water, but 
the way they do the lighting. 

751
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,990
And you're like, how did someone
paint this into your 1500, you 

752
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,540
know what I mean? 
Like, it's just like, it makes 

753
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:16,170
you appreciate it even more. 
It's pretty crazy. 

754
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,110
And this man, the amount of 
money there's in trad art, I 

755
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,250
mean, just walking around with 
some Matisse is all over the 

756
00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:23,730
wall. 
Picassos, you know, some of the 

757
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:25,870
most absurd thing. 
And then I get to see something 

758
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,750
I like the most. 
I'm a I'm a pull up my screen 

759
00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:29,880
right now and and share with you
all. 

760
00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:34,800
I I was not expecting to see a 
portrait of my great grandmother

761
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:38,280
you know, exhibited at Frieze 
Masters. 

762
00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:42,100
But here we are, you know, I 
mean, you know, it's an honour, 

763
00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:47,260
you know, So I'm walking through
Freeze and then I see my great 

764
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:48,740
grandma. 
I mean, I think it's, you know, 

765
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:52,280
the luscious locks definitely 
run through the family here and 

766
00:41:52,290 --> 00:41:53,730
but no. 
But on a more serious note that 

767
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:57,780
the coolest thing I fucking saw 
was this Chomper. 

768
00:41:58,090 --> 00:42:05,100
It's a 68,000,000 year old to 
juvenile T Rex from Maastricht 

769
00:42:05,110 --> 00:42:07,300
and age and it was discovered in
Montana. 

770
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:09,630
That's where all like the 
dinosaurs were discovered. 

771
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,240
That Colorado, Montana is around
Canada and stuff. 

772
00:42:12,310 --> 00:42:14,540
It was $20 million. 
So if someone's trying to run 

773
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:18,080
Dino Dale back, let me know. 
You know I think we should run 

774
00:42:18,090 --> 00:42:20,460
Dino doll back and buy dinosaur 
cause the market for dinosaurs 

775
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:23,820
is dry and that's how I found 
out this apparently this guy. 

776
00:42:24,590 --> 00:42:26,300
So that's why that's me with the
dinosaur. 

777
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:29,320
But Capital Grug here happening.
This guy owns a whole ass 

778
00:42:29,330 --> 00:42:32,600
dinosaur and he's been trying to
sell it for 30 mil. 

779
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:35,670
Yeah, so this guy on CT that was
a dinosaur. 

780
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400
I would love to know like the 
the market for those sort of 

781
00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:43,050
things like who's who's the 
broker it's it's both the broker

782
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:45,940
is these guys right that these 
guys that I was I was they had 

783
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:49,740
this like section called David 
Aaron and so inside and I didn't

784
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:52,030
post that but let me show you on
the screen real quick I don't 

785
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,580
know if it's the glare is going 
to help me here but there was 

786
00:42:54,590 --> 00:43:02,770
150 million year old lino here 
see and that thing was 100 so 

787
00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:06,470
that dinosaur 68 million it's 
150 million years old. 

788
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:10,990
Dinosaur. 
How is that a $68 million 

789
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,610
dinosaur, for example? 
No, $20 million dinosaur by 

790
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:17,670
68,000,000 years old. 
OK, I mean, dude, think about 

791
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,490
it. 
An alien punk sold for 21 mil, 

792
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,240
right? 
That's the 20 plus. 

793
00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:26,030
How do you appraise it? 
Why is that a 20 and the other 

794
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,710
ones are other ones are 60? 
And who has that? 

795
00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:36,650
I don't know. 
Who's who's the appraiser of 

796
00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:38,970
that these were sold? 
There was some. 

797
00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:42,050
There were red dots next to the 
next to the cards. 

798
00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:44,510
So that means they're sold, bro.
Yeah, check this out. 

799
00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:46,970
Sold. 
Sold. 

800
00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:51,170
I mean, look at this late 
Nanosaurus skeleton skeleton, 

801
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:56,910
Late Jurassic circa €150 million
old fossilised bone provenance 

802
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,630
found an excavated in 2021 in 
Moffat County, Colorado on the 

803
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,300
Skull Creek Estates. 
That's insane. 

804
00:44:03,310 --> 00:44:06,920
I ADA certificate this and 
that's that was interesting. 

805
00:44:06,970 --> 00:44:09,890
All of them said this item has 
been checked against the 

806
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:13,470
Interpol database. 
So it looks like there's an 

807
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,800
Interpol database to check all 
these items. 

808
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,430
And it did, yeah, Interpol. 
And it did it for all the items 

809
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,000
like this is so cool. 
So that basically proves that 

810
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:27,950
you don't buy. 
Of like criminals, right. 

811
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,490
Exactly. 
I think ohh that makes sense. 

812
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:34,070
So I guess they're because even 
this like that was that's thing 

813
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,170
just showed was from the Menier 
fragment which is 3300 BC and 

814
00:44:38,180 --> 00:44:40,770
it's from Nate late. 
It's a limestone, right. 

815
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:44,100
And it was like an artwork and 
so, yeah, you're right. 

816
00:44:44,110 --> 00:44:46,530
And they're all checked against 
the Interpol database, so that 

817
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:48,810
that area. 
Anyone who is digging up 

818
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:53,810
dinosaur bones or shit like 
that, it's 100% illegal. 

819
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:57,470
Like there's no. 
The idea that this checkins of 

820
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,930
interval database you'll find 
like what I I think I'm gonna 

821
00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:05,880
I'm I'm in the wrong business. 
So you guys can stay here with 

822
00:45:05,890 --> 00:45:10,050
your digital collectibles that 
you're meeting on the blockchain

823
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,830
that don't have value. 
I mean, obviously nothing but a 

824
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,550
graphic designer, not even an 
artist, and I'm going to go and 

825
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,440
hang out with my new track 
artist because I went to Freeze 

826
00:45:18,450 --> 00:45:23,050
London once and I'm cool like 
that, so, but there was a lot 

827
00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:26,150
of, you know, in the air or 
yesterday, so my. 

828
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,490
Thing I told you it was a bit 
like that, in fact. 

829
00:45:30,530 --> 00:45:33,470
You would buy a dinosaur off 
you, you know if you came to me 

830
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:36,170
with with a dinosaur I think I 
consider it should be similar 

831
00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:38,200
dinosaur. 
I should be the one selling a 

832
00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:40,690
dinosaur at a juvenile T Rex 
straight up. 

833
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:43,890
Anyways, so that's fun. 
Great topics today so quickly. 

834
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,510
I know. 
We have the NFT Paris team on 

835
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,890
stage. 
Are they also on video? 

836
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,710
I don't know. 
I think it's just on audio. 

837
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,350
Yeah, it is. 
So there are alive. 

838
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,780
They are live on X with us. 
What's up? 

839
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:57,610
What's up? 
Good morning. 

840
00:45:57,620 --> 00:45:59,950
How you doing? 
Good morning. 

841
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:02,730
Doing great. 
Not on video, but just on the 

842
00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:04,230
space. 
Glad to be here. 

843
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,910
And glad to speak about the 
launch of our token, which is a 

844
00:46:07,980 --> 00:46:09,670
pretty big deal happening 
tomorrow. 

845
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:14,170
So tell me about this. 
So why does the conference need 

846
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:16,060
a token? 
Yeah. 

847
00:46:16,070 --> 00:46:19,900
So I think conference, you know 
it's a, it's a we're trying to 

848
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:23,830
bring together communities. 
So interoperability, bringing 

849
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,540
the right people is really, 
really important and we already 

850
00:46:27,550 --> 00:46:31,020
had that last year. 
Like we experimented with having

851
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:34,930
discounts for certain 
communities, having a reward if 

852
00:46:34,940 --> 00:46:38,710
you take your tickets early. 
And we didn't have a real like 

853
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,030
global system. 
We were doing things here and 

854
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,900
there and we realised that like 
actually having a token was the 

855
00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:48,310
best way to. 
Reward loyalty on the long term.

856
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,750
So if you came on the 1st 
edition, on the 2nd edition you 

857
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,350
can buy, you know discounts for 
the conference, you can get 

858
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,710
special merge by partners, we 
can token gate some experiences 

859
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,290
at the conference. 
So yeah, I think loyalty is a 

860
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:09,310
big topic right now for brands, 
for, for conferences and 

861
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,950
ultimately I think NFT Paris is 
a is a brand and so we also 

862
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,390
wanted to have our own 
community. 

863
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:20,080
And interoperability with other 
communities. 

864
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,670
All right, that's interesting. 
Alright, well, listen, the the 

865
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,130
NFT Paris conference this year 
was one of my favourites and I 

866
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:29,550
know for a fact would be going 
heavy on the next one. 

867
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:32,690
Yeah, I think we all spoke 
there, right, man, though, you 

868
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:34,070
guys. 
Yeah, I was moderating your 

869
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,410
panel. 
Wait, we were moderate? 

870
00:47:35,420 --> 00:47:37,170
Yeah, I was moderating your 
panel for you guys. 

871
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:39,770
Yeah, I remember that. 
That was fun with the Eiffel 

872
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:41,700
Tower in the back. 
Is it also at the Grand Palais, 

873
00:47:41,710 --> 00:47:43,950
Female this year again or next? 
Year Yes. 

874
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,400
No, no. 
It's the same place where yeah, 

875
00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:50,010
excited to be back there, show 
the goal is actually, you know, 

876
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,540
the spaces. 
Is quite down. 

877
00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:56,190
It's it's all again to hope that
the bull market is going to come

878
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,980
back in 2024 and if it doesn't 
come back an FT Paris will 

879
00:48:00,990 --> 00:48:05,420
contribute to show that we're 
still a strong space try to put 

880
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:10,160
in front of the the stage 
actually people who are still 

881
00:48:10,170 --> 00:48:14,720
like a strong building and yeah 
yeah and so what's going to be 

882
00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:16,960
different. 
Cool. 

883
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Good question. 
So the coin is going to be used.

884
00:48:21,060 --> 00:48:26,990
It's we're building something a 
bit similar to decode Point 

885
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,150
Spiller Parlour ecosystem 
actually. 

886
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,150
So you're having a certain 
number of tokens that are being 

887
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,440
airdropped tomorrow, like where 
you're taking your NFT Paris ID,

888
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:41,950
where analysing your wallets and
you see your eligibility. 

889
00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:46,750
Like you're eligible to 10,000 
tokens if you came to the last 

890
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,580
edition you hold some. 
Hard blocks, NFTS and some 

891
00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:53,600
things we've authorised. 
And then with those tokens you 

892
00:48:53,610 --> 00:48:55,680
can get discounts on the 
conference. 

893
00:48:55,690 --> 00:48:59,060
Meaning if you are a valuable 
collector to us, you have 

894
00:48:59,070 --> 00:49:02,260
stronger incentives to come to 
the conference and then you can 

895
00:49:02,270 --> 00:49:05,320
participate. 
Also, not only at the conference

896
00:49:05,330 --> 00:49:09,350
but before the conference we 
have this platform where NFT 

897
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,640
artists can participate and list
their NFT's and NFT Paris 

898
00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:15,470
tokens. 
We have all these partners, 

899
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,650
sponsors who can put prizes. 
So it just came. 

900
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:24,740
Advised the whole experience 
incentivizes the most important 

901
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:27,520
uses for us to come to, to the 
conference I guess. 

902
00:49:27,610 --> 00:49:31,640
And then it rewards loyalty and 
engagement. 

903
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:34,660
And I think it's something also 
with Rock radio you've been 

904
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:38,620
doing some things like that like
some platform for community 

905
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:41,000
engagement. 
So you get probably where we're 

906
00:49:41,010 --> 00:49:43,020
heading. 
Yeah, no, no. 

907
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:45,660
I totally get why tokens are 
good for rewards and community 

908
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:47,180
and stuff like that, because 
we've been doing this for a 

909
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:48,910
minute. 
When it comes time we have the 

910
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,680
next iteration of rewards system
is gonna be really freaking cool

911
00:49:51,930 --> 00:49:53,320
with regards to everything we're
doing. 

912
00:49:53,330 --> 00:49:56,760
So I totally get it And so you 
know, I wanna know, you know, 

913
00:49:56,770 --> 00:49:59,360
obviously I'm I'm always excited
for FT pairs because this year 

914
00:49:59,770 --> 00:50:02,100
was like top three for me. 
Obviously had a good time in 

915
00:50:02,110 --> 00:50:04,000
Paris the best city in the 
world. 

916
00:50:04,110 --> 00:50:07,900
Of course London come second, 
Mando and Ovi and then Portugal 

917
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:12,380
can come third. 
But but there was a lot of fun. 

918
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:15,330
But you know I had another 
question for you is like what's 

919
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:16,390
going to be different this year,
right. 

920
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,820
Is there something else to look 
forward to. 

921
00:50:17,830 --> 00:50:21,020
I know a lot of people were 
18,000 people showed up, 

922
00:50:21,340 --> 00:50:24,510
including I think the the 
president's wife and like the 

923
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,390
minister of interior from not 
mistaken. 

924
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,950
So it was almost yeah, yeah, 
yeah. 

925
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,810
So yeah, we had two ministers, 
culture and digital transition 

926
00:50:33,820 --> 00:50:37,030
and and Bridget Macron, but 
that's good for us. 

927
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,100
But obviously I don't know if 
people in the space care so, so 

928
00:50:41,110 --> 00:50:45,750
we're really trying to this year
accomplished the vision we had 

929
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,490
for the first year. 
So actually I've been trying to 

930
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:51,190
bring all the cool stuff that we
have in the space so. 

931
00:50:51,630 --> 00:50:57,060
I'm speaking about 90CC bright 
moments art blogs Yuga labs as 

932
00:50:57,070 --> 00:51:00,340
many cool people to activate I 
guess inside the confident have 

933
00:51:00,350 --> 00:51:05,000
really immersive experiences and
and for the 1st edition because 

934
00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:09,080
like first big edition because 
we didn't have some references 

935
00:51:09,090 --> 00:51:13,120
it was harder to attract those 
people but this year it's a it's

936
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:17,000
been confirmed on a on quite a 
few of those that I just 

937
00:51:17,010 --> 00:51:21,610
mentioned and so yeah I'm 
excited to just bring a cool 

938
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:24,390
things and not only a. 
Typical sponsors. 

939
00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:27,620
So additionally to the the 
networking experience and the 

940
00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:30,770
business you can have and and 
making sure we bring brands and 

941
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:34,090
we bring we help the web free 
space to develop. 

942
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,740
We're making sure the experience
is also a a compelling and 

943
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:41,890
exciting that's super cool. 
I guess last question for you 

944
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:44,370
before we take off here is like 
when and how is this 

945
00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:47,050
distribution gonna take place? 
Yeah. 

946
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:52,490
So it's it's happening tomorrow 
6:00 PM CET and you're just 

947
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,430
going on the website, we will we
will link to on on our Twitter 

948
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:01,880
and you can grab your NFT Paris 
ID so you can choose a name for 

949
00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:06,860
example Farooq dot NFT Paris. 
It's going to analyse quickly 

950
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:11,270
your wallet so you can connect 
123 wallets and it's going to 

951
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,090
tell you like how much tokens 
and NFT tokens you can have and 

952
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:18,360
then on the 18th of October. 
Were actually airdropping the 

953
00:52:18,370 --> 00:52:20,360
token on and the marketplace is 
going live. 

954
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:23,670
Alright, well there you go. 
Well, thank you for coming up 

955
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,370
today. 
Definitely excited to to show up

956
00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:29,790
next year and is it it's gonna 
be what same time right. 

957
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,710
Is it Jan? 
Febs. 

958
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:35,770
Yeah, same time. 
So, Feb, it's the 23rd and 24th 

959
00:52:35,780 --> 00:52:37,510
sick. 
Let's fucking go. 

960
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:40,260
I can't wait for that. 
Sure. 

961
00:52:40,270 --> 00:52:41,450
We'll be chatting even more 
about this. 

962
00:52:41,460 --> 00:52:42,830
So thank you for coming up after
Paris. 

963
00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:45,840
Thank you folk Mondo. 
Thank you. 

964
00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:48,040
Regret you alright? 
Hell yeah. 

965
00:52:48,050 --> 00:52:50,140
See Mondo in French. 
I love it. 

966
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:51,680
The other day I was like Bonjour
Mondo. 

967
00:52:51,690 --> 00:52:54,720
I write to him like this now, 
but it is Mondo when he's in 

968
00:52:54,730 --> 00:52:58,260
France and I like that. 
Well Mando Obi, this is a great 

969
00:52:58,270 --> 00:53:02,900
show in my opinion as usual 
because always a great show and 

970
00:53:02,990 --> 00:53:06,250
I guess tomorrow the ETF news. 
Like is this something that 

971
00:53:06,260 --> 00:53:08,340
would come before a post show? 
I don't know. 

972
00:53:08,350 --> 00:53:12,070
I guess they have until the 
close of business tomorrow, so. 

973
00:53:12,740 --> 00:53:15,650
Maybe there's a headline that 
comes out saying SC does not 

974
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:17,070
appeal. 
Maybe there's no headline and 

975
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,630
then on Saturday and was like 
they didn't appear. 

976
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,110
I don't know. 
So we'll see. 

977
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,760
OK. 
OK. 

978
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:26,500
I guess we'll see. 
Well alright. 

979
00:53:26,510 --> 00:53:29,250
Well that's a that's a good rap.
And as usual it's a reminder our

980
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:31,790
show is powered by cracking FT 
check. 

981
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,540
Come out, cracking out to come 
Force radio. 

982
00:53:34,550 --> 00:53:37,080
I saw them start teasing they're
going to do next week so can't 

983
00:53:37,090 --> 00:53:41,190
wait to go home and cover that 
next week in taxes. 

984
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:45,090
And with that with that with 
that I'll see you all tomorrow 

985
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:47,860
morning 10:30 AM Eastern 
Standard Time 7:30 PM Pacific 

986
00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:50,840
Standard Time for the episode of
Gem Web 3 on rock radio. 

987
00:53:50,910 --> 00:53:52,830
Let's. 
Go.