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Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning GMG. 

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See Wednesday, October 11th, 
2023. 

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Look at that. 
Another beautiful day to have a 

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beautiful day. 
I got both of my Co hosts in the

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house yesterday. 
Was was was a little tete, a 

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tete between Mando and I. 
Monday was little Teta tet 

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between Ovi and I, both my boys 
in the house Ovi Mando. 

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Let me go to Mando first. 
How you doing Mando? 

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How's the weather in Portugal 
today? 

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What do you think? 
Beautiful day. 

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How many degrees? 
Degrees. 

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There you go. 
It's a beautiful day in 

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Portugal. 
Of course. 

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Every day. 
Lucky you. 

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It's still beautiful in London. 
Not gonna lie though. 

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Little overcast now I think my 
time of bringing the sunshine to

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London has has gone it I I 
listen to the idea. 

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When you leaving? 
I'm leaving Sunday, leaving sun 

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Sunday morning. 
I'm out. 

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I think it's about time I go 
home. 

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I haven't been home since 
September 2nd. 

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You know, I haven't left. 
I've left for Korea. 

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Literally. 
Right after you leave it gets 

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colder. 
See. 

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Drops about 10 degrees whenever 
I go. 

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Whenever I go, you know the 
weather just goes to 0 and 

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that's just a you know where it 
is. 

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But you know, Last but not 
least, I don't want to go to my 

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other Co host whose special day 
it is today. 

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Ovi. 
Happy birthday baby. 

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How are you feeling today? 
Woo, happy birthday. 

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Do you? 
Like this. 

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Come on. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Weird meeting. 
You mean that you know the very 

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well known CB1 beer birthday 
song? 

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I'm sorry, let me just put 
something more like, generic. 

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Like the fuck is this you and 
me? 

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That's better. 
More Happy birthday to you. 

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How does it feel Ovie to be one 
year older today? 

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I don't know. 
It doesn't feel that different. 

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It does. 
It feels a bit. 

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I'm 34 now. 
I just feel a bit weird. 

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OHS. 
Eyes ohh man yeah ohh. 

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Umm, yeah, I. 
Don't want to say so. 

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So yeah, 34 man, you. 
You're like you. 

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I could be your son. 
He could be my son. 

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Yeah. 
That's crazy. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, if you had been five 

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years old, Had you when I was 
8885? 

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No, we're 55. 
Wait, dude, I'm the one supposed

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to be? 
Better math here, you know? 

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But listen, one more year around
the sun. 

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Listen, everybody, I saw over 
you last night, man. 

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Man is beef, OK? 
OV like enlarged, like he was 

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wearing his. 
He was wearing a shirt to the 

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Aspray event last night. 
Mando. 

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It looked like he was going to 
pop the buttons out the shirt. 

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Another on his stomach, around 
his chest. 

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OK, my eyes. 
Yeah, guys. 

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Yeah, yeah, it's pretty crazy. 
Whatever that zoomer guy is, 

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he's about to get wrecked for 
sure, bro. 

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For sure. 
I. 

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Didn't realise that he's 
actually been doing this thing 

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for a while, right? 
Like he's actually been 

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organising it. 
Is that is that right? 

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He's one of the Co organisers of
the fight. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Good or bad? 

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Like directly just doing it 
because he's like been doing it?

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Or do you reckon it's gonna be 
like, really good? 

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It means he has all the inside 
information, you know, part of 

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it is all like mentality that 
knowing what's going on, he's 

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gonna let me know how things run
and roll and. 

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He'll have, we have to do some 
videos actually of like 

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training. 
So he'll have access to the 

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training videos and stuff. 
So what? 

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Yeah, like they're gonna do it 
trailers and stuff. 

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So, like, I had someone come 
film. 

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Just like you should send, like,
a shitty video, you know? 

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That's why I was drinking with 
my coach. 

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But as I just like. 
Throw 3 punches and like just 

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pass out something. 
Just like have you coached not 

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to town? 
Yeah. 

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Actually won. 
They want videos to see that 

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you're training and fit enough 
to fight kind of thing. 

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Yeah, WBC sanctioned. 
So you have to. 

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Yeah, so you have to like God. 
If I don't think this fitness 

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test, but I gotta send like 
blood test all that kind of 

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stuff like probably. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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OK. 
There's only so much you can 

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pretend to be shit without. 
Yeah, no, I get it. 

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I get it. 
It's definitely tough one 

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anyways. 
Anyways, listen, I want 

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everybody in the audience. 
First of all, retweet the space.

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We're live on video, on audio, 
across all platforms, as usual. 

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As every morning. 
I want everybody at the bottom 

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right of the scene where you see
that little purple box to which 

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Ovi a happy 34th birthday. 
Awesome. 

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There you go. 
There you have it. 

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You should have told me last 
time, like 12 people dinner. 

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But you know what? 
I'm gonna get you back and we'll

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find a way to celebrate 
regardless this week at some .1 

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way or another. 
He didn't do it on purpose. 

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He just didn't wanna have some 
of the. 

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Attention, You know, just like 
you know what I would have done?

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Like I would have. 
I don't know. 

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The attention game, but in 
boxing in front of like a 

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billion people on November 24th.
And then the founder of NFT 

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project. 
And I'm also selling art 

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everywhere. 
And I speak it. 

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Scientifically when I'm going to
Marfa, man. 

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You know dude, last night he was
mentioning something about 

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Martha and his wife. 
Like, rolled her eyes. 

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It was so funny. 
She was like, you could touch 

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like, sick and tired of hearing 
about it. 

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Went to that thing, it's just 
come back and just raved about 

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it. 
It's just kind of a bit 

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annoying. 
It's that it's that good. 

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It's that good. 
I'm just gonna open a rug radio 

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motel now in Martham or buy land
outside here. 

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I've been hearing rumbles a lot 
of people and T has been buying 

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land in Marfa. 
I'm just gonna open like a a 

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motel that's open like one 
weekend out of. 

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The door is gonna happen next 
year. 

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Loads of people gonna go. 
I wasn't really that good 

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because everyone hyped it up now
from this year. 

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Probably. 
Probably. 

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Especially if you're like a 
raging like art blocks bowl 

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again or something that. 
But for per Mandela's tweet, 

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that's not gonna happen in front
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So we have time for that. 
Yes there was a great show for 

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those of you who want to catch 
up. 

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Anyways, today on the show today
today let me get the topics up 

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for y'all. 
I just posted them out. 

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Market report as usual. 
When October. 

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We want it back. 
Knock knock. 

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October where you at? 
Topic 2. 

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Poor Caroline. 
Boo Hoo. 

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Caroline was a victim of SPF 
poor girl. 

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Polygon AIP to build a chain 
that came out of nowhere I found

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interesting. 
Signed by you know Sandeep 

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actually. 
Wait, hold on. 

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I just put on my screen. 
No, I did not get we're good. 

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I and then gaming news a star 
Atlas came out of a long silence

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and you know seems to have 
gotten a lot of traffic around 

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their their threat of course a 
lot of people bullish. 

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That's project I think launch 
about 2021 the bull market was 

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pretty popular so it looks like 
their game is ready and do some 

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other major news which I feel 
like we'd be talking a little 

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more if it was in the middle of 
bear market or or everything's 

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happening right now the 
conflicts going on right now but

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Amazon. 
Amazon partnered with immutable 

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not not not nothing small here 
but anyways as usual this show 

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But anyways while we get this 
party started Mando movie what 

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is going on with this market 
every every time we think we're 

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getting someone of a bounce 
seems like we're bouncing the 

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wrong way. 
So what's happened? 

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Yeah, interestingly, macro has 
actually been OK. 

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Like stocks were up yesterday, 
they've bounced a little bit 

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today. 
Interest rates are valued 

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because of, you know, they tend 
to rally in. 

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Times of war. 
And you also had, you know, PPI 

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data today come out as well, 
Producer price index data that 

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actually came in. 
It wasn't good. 

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Yeah. 
And expectations. 

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On both core and the headline 
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So that's definitely a bit of a 
concern, but interest rates have

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held in relatively OK. 
Weirdly, oil hasn't really like 

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you'd expect oil to rally and it
was just actually down today 

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it's down back down at 83. 
Is that like the lows of the 

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last two or three weeks? 
So that's sort of giving licence

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for interest rates to rally 
really, but. 

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Tomorrow we have inflation that 
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have CPI tomorrow. 
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I don't know. 
It's just can't. 

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Can't seem to rally kind of like
every every bounce gets sold it 

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just seems like without like in 
terms of short term price action

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I think everyone was like Ohh 
ETS ETS ETS and it's now clear 

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with all those delays that the 
first time we hear from them 

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won't be until January so. 
You know, it's kind of like what

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And people there's just seems 
like there's a lot of tired 

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longs in the market, so. 
Short term price action is like 

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well, what can what positive 
things can you really expect 

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here? 
Especially with everything else 

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going on in the world, just 
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so. 
There's a couple of things this 

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week I think we could hear from 
#1 is that by Friday they have 

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to give the grayscale decision 
if they're gonna appeal it. 

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So we'll know that on Friday. 
And then there is murmurings 

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that the Coinbase decision will 
be either this week or next 

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week. 
And Coinbase got an amicus brief

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from basic couple of couple of 
well known law professors slash 

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lawyers came in and said that 
Coinbase was right. 

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They got back today. 
So maybe we'll get some positive

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news that it does feel a little 
bit quiet I would say and 

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probably will be for a little 
bit here. 

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We. 
I don't know, like Bitcoin has 

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been holding up OK, but then it 
it seemed to be underperforming 

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over the last 24 hours. 
Actually, Bitcoin dominance has 

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gone down a little bit. 
Some of the alts have done OK. 

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That's kind of a key level 
though 27 Ki think if it kind of

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goes below that then it could be
a little bit weak for a bit, but

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yeah, I don't really know. 
It definitely feels as though 

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old coins are in focus for for 
the last. 

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Week or so, Two weeks just given
how much Bitcoin dominance come 

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up, came down, Sorry, went up. 
And now that Bitcoin is dropping

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it, it's. 
That's maybe not the best sign, 

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I don't know. 
I don't. 

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Yeah, I feel like we're waiting.
We're waiting for ETF. 

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We'll wait. 
We're waiting for school 

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positive. 
Get a bit stronger with with 

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what's going on in macro. 
I think macro if we get, if we 

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get, so some things you're 
looking at right now macro is 

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banks are looking terrible. 
So bank stocks are looking, 

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they're back down to where they 
were in February or March. 

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So remember February. 
March is when we had SVP, SVB 

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collapse. 
We had. 

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What's that West Coast bank? 
The Republic one? 

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Um. 
Anyway, like three or four banks

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went under right over that 
period. 

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First Republic. 
Right, First Republic. 

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Bank stocks are back to that 
level and a lot of different 

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people are sounding the alarm, 
being like we're going to have 

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another bank run on a few of 
these because treasuries have 

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gone up, yields have gone up 
again, so the losses on bank 

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balances are even higher. 
If that happens, then I think we

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do have a pretty positive 
scenario again for Bitcoin, but 

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it would probably be what 
happened last time in that you 

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have a dip because everything 
suddenly starts getting, 

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everyone starts suddenly starts 
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banking system again, followed 
by a rip because everyone 

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realises that. 
You know digital gold, 

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decentralised value is very 
important and the fact that Fed 

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will probably have to slow down.
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what could happen over the next 
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will start looking at bank 
stocks again and the losses we 

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had credit suite in Europe, we 
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Be very unsurprised if some of 
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in the US start to show signs of
stress again and if that 

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happens, and I think it's 
actually a very positive 

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scenario for crypto, but. 
Just like last time I reckon 

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it's one of those dip them rips 
if that happens, hopefully that 

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happens in office course like no
signs of stopping or slowing 

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down in the Middle East at the 
moment. 

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I know we don't really wanna 
start covering stuff like that 

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on here. 
I think there's enough of it 

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over the timeline, but it seems 
like there's, you know, there's 

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things are not any much better. 
Slow down. 

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It's not going to happen. 
This is this is a medium term 

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or. 
To be around with us for for 

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months not not like days I was I
was hoping that the other day 

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when some people are trying to 
get involved between Turkey and 

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and you know or Italy, saying 
that Egyptian media and whatnot.

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I was hoping like a couple days 
ago that we go towards like some

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sort of like a a a ceasefire. 
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it's it's been you know, it's it
seems it's like nothing's gonna,

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you know slow down and of course
like what would you want to buy 

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one of the highest risk assets 
in a time like this which you'd 

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figure that Bitcoin would do 
well in the time like this. 

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But we learned nothing from 
Russia and Ukraine that that was

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not the case. 
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So I don't think, you know, 
that's my personal thesis. 

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But again, what do I know? 
And we'll see what. 

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Happens. 
I could be completely wrong too.

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I just get. 
I get the feeling that this is. 

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Maybe now a full invasion 
there's probably going to be 

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hopefully humanitarian corridor 
but I don't think that's gonna 

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escalate not for a while. 
No, it's not great and we 

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absolutely actually hate to see 
it again all day on X. 

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That's about this the only thing
that you can you can see on the 

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timeline and some people 
definitely milking the 

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monetization revenue out of 
stuff like that. 

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I I really sometimes I wonder 
where the where the line goes 

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here and when some people cross 
the line. 

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I don't know how you guys feel 
about that. 

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I don't really want to talk 
about it too much, but I just 

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think it's. 
Just talk about a love on 

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Monday, right? 
Like it is kind of wild how it's

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become. 
Everything's a bit. 

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Socialise. 
Everyone wants to milk it, but 

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on the conservative side as 
well, right? 

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Like, I'm not trying to throw 
shade, right. 

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It's like very, very deep 
conservative side of things, 

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right, like. 
Yes. 

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So I think you don't put out a 
funny tweet yesterday, which is 

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like. 
You ohh, two weeks ago you were 

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claiming that you know this was 
the ADL or after me and then now

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it's like this is pro like 
Israel propaganda. 

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Yesterday you saw if you saw 
like the command, Kimani Hill 

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Kamani, who's the Itola in Iran?
And Israel, the Israel Actual 

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Twitter account replied as well.
So, like, there is, yeah, wild 

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this guy, right? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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If you go down 11 hours ago, 
this. 

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One No no no Ohh. 
He wouldn't be. 22 The 22 hour 

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one Yeah, click on that. 
I'm sure, Israel replied to this

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tweet. 
How? 

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Maybe replies. 
But this is just so crazy, dude.

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Like. 
I thought that was wild, like to

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see that being that the actual 
dialogue between the two of them

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trying to find the sweet you're 
referring to, but. 

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They definitely did. 
They definitely. 

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Ohh maybe they deleted it, I 
don't know. 

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Maybe like? 
100%, they replied. 

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Ohh, no, it's here, It's here. 
Or is it? 

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No October? 
Yeah, yesterday. 

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Wow. 
Jesus Christ, man. 

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So bad. 
That's wild. 

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Wow. 
OK, so this is for those of you 

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see on audio. 
It's a it's a tweet from the 

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Ayatollah Khamenei was the 
supreme leader of Iran. 

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I I hate that guy. 
But anyways, saying stop. 

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You're obviously coming at at at
at Israel and what's up and all 

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that stuff. 
And then Israel, the actual 

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country. 
We're applying the official, 

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right? 
This is the official. 

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Yeah, it's one saying it's easy 
to be brave when you're hiding 

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behind a keyboard. 
You and your Hamas friend will 

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regret your barbaric actions. 
Very holy shit. 

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It's not just any answer, like 
word forward. 

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You and your Hamas friends will 
regret your barbaric actions 

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very soon. 
Period. 

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Yeah, to be clear, like these 
countries have never had 

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dialogue. 
Israel, Israel has, has had 

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dialogue with most of the rest 
of the region. 

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But like, there's no dialogue 
between Iran and Israel. 

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She gives me shivers, man, like 
I it just. 

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Doesn't like to father they're 
talking over acts is kind of 

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wild look some of this stuff is 
like you get both sides of the 

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coin is basically what I brought
this up is that you get free 

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speech you get sensationalist. 
The idea that this shit is 

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happening is is this would this 
wasn't happening before right. 

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This was not happening before, 
so I think that's a. 

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Interest. 
It's going to be an interesting 

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platform to be over the course 
of our lifetimes, like the wild 

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stuff that goes on, right? 
Like they're very, very keen on 

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making sure you don't ban 
accounts. 

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I think the EU went after them 
today for spreading 

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disinformation. 
But in general, like we've seen 

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the Taliban on Twitter. 
You've seen, remember there was 

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a lot of heat, that comedy was 
on Twitter when they banned 

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Donald Trump. 
Like how how those two things 

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worked out. 
And now everyone can basically 

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come onto Twitter as long as 
you're not. 

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Um, obviously inciting like 
terrorism or stuff like that, 

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but the. 
You're gonna see some wild 

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dialogue, I think, over the 
course of my lifetime between. 

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Between geopolitical enemies? 
Damn. 

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Almost racial. 
Them too. 

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Actually. 
That's wild. 

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That's dude. 
That's why I did not expect to 

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see that in this timeline. 
It's insane. 

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Wow. 
OK Anyways, you shivers because 

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like they're replying to each 
other's tweets and on the 

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battlefield like just just like 
so many people our age just like

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having to fight that fight, go 
to war. 

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So I just hate seeing that. 
It's just been horrible watching

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all these scenes. 
It's almost makes you not want 

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to tweet. 
Like, I don't know you guys, but

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I know we were talking about 
this and I know you did say that

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the first few days you just like
kind of didn't even want to put 

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anything out. 
Just, you know, I. 

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Didn't say anything. 
Yeah, I was ill, but I didn't 

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because I just didn't feel 
right. 

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I feel like I my personal view 
is this is gonna go on for a 

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while now. 
So I think you can't just like 

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not tweet or after reading this 
last one that you just 

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mentioned, I tend to sadly agree
with you. 

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But again, we are not 
geopolitical experts and we're 

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not gonna brand to become that 
either here at Rock Radio. 

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So maybe, fuck, maybe you will 
with demand of minutes. 

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I mean, the man of minutes. 
Maybe you're going to become a 

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geopolitical expert. 
It's like Kelly's job. 

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Yeah. 
What qualification is 

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geopolitical expert like? 
What would you want to see? 

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Someone who has a degree in a 
background in history, 

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especially in history of the 
region in the Middle East? 

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First and foremost? 
Second thing someone. 

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Who people do you think actually
have that call themselves a lie?

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Not a right, Not alright, 
actually. 

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Not a lot, actually. 
There's really not a lot of 

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people that have that, But 
someone who actually, like 

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studied something, right? 
Or or understand. 

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Or maybe someone who like, 
actually went to a lot like, 

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studied elite law and like 
actually finished and like is a 

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lawyer. 
For example, you know, but no, 

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definitely not Mario novel, you 
know, I mean, like I'm trying to

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say like or like some of the 
other like Twitter spaces, 

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you're seeing that on the back 
of him and stuff like that. 

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You know, like he's still like 
selling at spots on his Twitter 

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space covering the Hamas and 
like the Israel war, you know, 

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so it's it's just none of it's 
just right with me. 

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Yeah, you got two sides, right? 
People and I'm sure listen I'm 

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sure I'm sure there's two sides 
always right for for these 

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things but just super weird when
when I see something like that. 

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Anyways that was not part of the
topic and I don't want to go 

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deeper into that the 2nd and 
that was kind of the the bigger 

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news of of the day yesterday is 
on the FTX side. 

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So as you all know, the trial is
happening at the moment and 

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Caroline take the photo, 
Caroline takes the stand and 

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that's a quote from Caroline 
herself. 

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He directed me to commit these 
crimes. 

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Yeah, Caroline is out there 
claiming the SBF directed her to

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commit all these crimes when 
there's like an absurd amount of

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content online. 
Even this like podcast interview

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of her like laughing, saying 
that remember the video of her 

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saying there's no stop losses 
and they don't use such things. 

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And how like she shouldn't talk 
about like the immense amount of

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loss that they've had or like 
talking about their affair or 

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whatever. 
So Caroline seems to think that 

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she's done nothing wrong. 
Procedures riding out on 

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everybody and everything and and
it's taking a stand. 

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That is actually the caricature 
from the trial yesterday. 

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They really did it wrong. 
I'm not gonna lie that whoever's

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the artist is over there really 
did it wrong, but she really 

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meant those. 
It would be great. 

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I'm sure a lot of people would 
buy them. 

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I'm not going to lie. 
Would you guys meant like the 

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trial images from something? 
I I totally would. 

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Personally speaking, that's 
that's a wild shot. 

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That's a tough one. 
It's a real one. 

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You. 
I thought in US courts you could

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have like cameras. 
So this, yes, you can. 

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But this specific trial is not 
to be televised and you, you 

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can't. 
So there's people that are 

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there. 
So, which is what I wanted to 

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bring up. 
I'm going to share my screen now

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with Tiffany Fong. 
She's been going every day, 

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right. 
And she's kind of been like 

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covering what's happening in 
court because actually the media

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is not allowed inside the court 
courtroom for this trial. 

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So there's also this other 
Twitter account like inner City 

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press. 
He's always around. 

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But so that that's the, that's 
the, you know, the the mug shot 

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that they put of her. 
I don't know if you saw this 

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meme. 
Elon responded to it yesterday, 

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kind of wild. 
And this is a clip. 

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So listen to me. 
Listen to this for 30 seconds 

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and tell me if this sounds like 
someone who was directed to 

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commit crimes. 
Pull it off without my math 

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degree. 
Use very little math. 

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Use a lot of like elementary 
school math. 

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Being comfortable with is very 
important. 

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We tend not to have things like 
stop losses. 

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I think those aren't necessarily
great risk management tool. 

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Trying to think of a good 
example of a trade where I've 

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lost a tonne of money. 
Well, I don't know. 

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I probably don't want to go into
specifics too much with that. 

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Yeah, absolutely could pull it 
off without a. 

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Math. 
Degree. 

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What the hell is this interview 
like? 

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There's a guy and another guy 
with a flat cap sitting there. 

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Or either side of her is about 
risk like. 

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Who? 
Type series got the FTX had on 

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over here who like have all the 
interviews you would also do 

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Like what the hell is that 
podcast? 

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Someone needs to direct you to 
it. 

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Random looking podcast. 
Something I've ever seen. 

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Hey though it's so funny it's 
ohh those two asking her about 

460
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:37,200
risk. 
I think I I forgot who it was. 

461
00:23:37,210 --> 00:23:39,850
I think they were FTX shows. 
But remember this tweet also CZ 

462
00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:42,010
Binance, if you're looking to 
minimise the market impact on 

463
00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:46,410
your T cells, will happy buy it 
all from you today at $22.00. 

464
00:23:46,460 --> 00:23:50,590
I mean look I'm not a I'm not a 
judge, I'm not jury, I'm not a 

465
00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:55,190
lawyer, not a legal consultant 
and counsel but it's it's just 

466
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,270
sounds insane And so Tiffany 
Fung has actually been there 

467
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,290
giving us updates. 
So yes, Zanzibar shots by 

468
00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:03,750
Venture telling us you're not 
allowed cameras in federal 

469
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,360
courts. 
So there's a lot of press there,

470
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:09,520
but they're kind of like live 
tweeting and everything. 

471
00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:13,160
So Tiffany Fung has been going 
and she claims to have like 300 

472
00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:15,940
pages of like personal documents
that were sent to her by SBF in 

473
00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:19,540
the time that he was in in in 
house arrest. 

474
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:21,900
And so she has all the updates 
on what's happening with 

475
00:24:21,910 --> 00:24:23,350
Caroline. 
So you guys can go, you know, 

476
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:27,000
obviously check by herself. 
But she said Caroline Ellison 

477
00:24:27,010 --> 00:24:29,190
kicked off her testimony 
admitting she committed 

478
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,600
financial crimes, fraud, 
conspiracy to commit fraud and 

479
00:24:31,610 --> 00:24:34,840
money laundering by defrauding 
FX customers and lenders to. 

480
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,850
TXN Alameda so that's that's 
what that's what she started out

481
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:43,580
with and obviously like there so
she know she's been covering the

482
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:47,830
whole thing and she claims that 
that that FTX so that Sam 

483
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,290
Bankman Fried actually directed 
her to commit these crimes. 

484
00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,390
I mean Mandovi, what do you 
think like based on the things 

485
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,430
that you know we I've just read 
for you all and and that you've 

486
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,450
just seen I got do you think 
that Caroline is is a is 

487
00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:05,580
innocent in that FT and SBF was 
the only person in the room. 

488
00:25:05,660 --> 00:25:08,360
Meeting these these crimes, I 
don't think Caroline, thanks to 

489
00:25:08,370 --> 00:25:11,640
the innocent man, I think she's 
basically admitting guilt as 

490
00:25:11,650 --> 00:25:15,260
well and using that well, she's 
clearly gonna get some plea 

491
00:25:15,270 --> 00:25:16,840
deal. 
I hope she goes to prison. 

492
00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:21,180
She cleaned what was going on. 
I think it's fair to say that 

493
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:25,290
like SPF was probably the 
ringleader in all of this. 

494
00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:29,380
Like, I don't know, like to me 
it feels like he was the 

495
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:35,060
originator of Alameda. 
He was the clearly controlled 

496
00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:42,830
the back door between the 
exchange and also the consistent

497
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,170
lying in what he said versus 
what he did. 

498
00:25:47,030 --> 00:25:49,520
Just like, you know, there's 
that thing like if you see a guy

499
00:25:49,530 --> 00:25:52,510
cheat at golf, like you just 
don't go into business with them

500
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,940
because they probably cheating 
about everything. 

501
00:25:53,950 --> 00:25:56,880
Like, it just seems to me like 
he was just a pathological liar.

502
00:25:56,890 --> 00:26:00,110
So I just don't. 
I feel like for me he was 

503
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,900
definitely culpable. 
Caroline 100% guilty. 

504
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:04,660
Like she should go to prison for
a long time. 

505
00:26:04,740 --> 00:26:06,720
Like she knew. 
All of these people are not 

506
00:26:06,730 --> 00:26:09,130
idiots, right? 
It's not like, Oh my God, my 

507
00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:12,320
boss told me. 
These are probably like 120 IQ 

508
00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:14,990
people who knew exactly what the
hell they were doing, all the 

509
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,360
risks they were taking. 
And then they just thought, look

510
00:26:17,370 --> 00:26:18,220
at that. 
Get away with it. 

511
00:26:18,690 --> 00:26:21,170
Yeah, I mean, you know what's 
crazy is that and and I'll, I'll

512
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:23,180
share my screen again here 
because Martin Shkreli, right, 

513
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:26,130
who's obviously been through the
system has also been commenting 

514
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:29,320
a lot and he was actually 
pointing that out that she 

515
00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:33,180
actually was, she got in through
the door. 

516
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:39,500
So this is a video of Caroline. 
Yesterday and on the side door 

517
00:26:39,550 --> 00:26:42,380
from what it seems and he says 
going through the secret 

518
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:44,800
government side door where rats 
get dramatic. 

519
00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:47,980
Dramatically dramatically. 
Ohh, he speaks my English real 

520
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:52,360
quick dramatically dramatically 
reduced sentences and and he 

521
00:26:52,370 --> 00:26:55,460
goes is it time to reform 
criminal justice where three or 

522
00:26:55,470 --> 00:26:58,160
four core criminals get 
dramatically reduced sentences 

523
00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:01,380
for doing the right thing and 
the one person who exercises 

524
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,980
exercises their constitutional 
right gets slammed. 

525
00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:07,020
So he was he was talking about 
this, so it seems like. 

526
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:08,560
Obviously, like she's 
cooperating. 

527
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:11,650
It seems like she literally 
entered the the side door where 

528
00:27:11,660 --> 00:27:16,300
like government informants get 
to get to enter from. 

529
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:19,260
So all of this is actually a 
pretty crazy ohh. 

530
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:21,960
What do you think about the 
situation and what do you think 

531
00:27:21,970 --> 00:27:27,990
also about the fact that? 
It seems that SF wanted to 

532
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,080
become President of the United 
States of America. 

533
00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:34,370
I don't know. 
I think I like, like, Michael 

534
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:38,610
said, all these people. 
Caroline, Sam, the other Sam 

535
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,270
Trabucco like they're all. 
Extra Jerry Wong or something. 

536
00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:48,940
Yeah, Gary Wang, who's the CEO 
of FTX or CFO, These are all 

537
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:50,900
very smart people and I think 
they're just knew full well what

538
00:27:50,910 --> 00:27:53,700
they're doing, but. 
What's also clear to me and by 

539
00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:56,340
the way, especially how Caroline
speaks, is and they just got a 

540
00:27:56,350 --> 00:27:57,730
bit cocky, didn't they got a bit
arrogant. 

541
00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:00,480
They're like, we're really 
smart, we're smashing it and 

542
00:28:00,490 --> 00:28:04,680
we've just got like got some 
kind of like cheat code to do 

543
00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:07,310
all this stuff and you just know
that they got complacent. 

544
00:28:08,890 --> 00:28:10,020
Risk. 
Risk. 

545
00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:16,560
Conduct, conduct and yeah, yeah.
Going by the way, Yeah, I don't 

546
00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:20,470
know. 
Not for me, but your volume is 

547
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,070
lower than than it than it than 
it was just wasn't going to 

548
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,590
stand. 
But I mean, maybe it's maybe 

549
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,030
it's gone there. 
Yeah, I don't know you got 

550
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,770
rugged earlier and maybe go to 
audio and put echo cancellation 

551
00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:32,920
turn it on and then high 
resolution audio turn it on on 

552
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:34,550
the restream. 
But you know what It's so this 

553
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,250
is a quote, right? 
So by the way that inner city 

554
00:28:36,260 --> 00:28:38,020
press account that I was talking
about, you should follow them 

555
00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:41,380
because he's always like the guy
that like covering things like 

556
00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:46,730
that at all times. 
But he goes, Ellison, we started

557
00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:49,230
sleeping together on and off in 
the summer of 2020. 

558
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:51,850
We dated and broke up, the 
attorney general said. 

559
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:55,690
What did defendant tell you 
about his ambitions? 

560
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:58,680
And she goes that he would be 
president and then he goes of 

561
00:28:58,690 --> 00:29:00,820
what? 
And he goes, she goes the United

562
00:29:00,830 --> 00:29:04,820
States. 
And so and so it seems like SBF 

563
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:08,160
was so delusional. 
And obviously we already covered

564
00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:11,170
on day one that he wanted to 
apparently pay Donald Trump $5 

565
00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:15,830
billion to like not run, yada 
yada yada, wanted to put all the

566
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,540
money in the world possible 
behind back in the fact that he 

567
00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:22,510
doesn't win and whatnot. 
Apparently he was so delusional 

568
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,350
that he thought he could even 
potentially one day become 

569
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,170
president of of of the USA, 
which is absolutely wild. 

570
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:35,690
And it's just like, man, it's 
just crazy how much information 

571
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:37,550
we're getting out of it. 
Like another question where they

572
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,020
were asking like when did FTX? 
Save money into Alameda's bank 

573
00:29:40,030 --> 00:29:43,400
accounts. 
She goes 2020 and into 2022. 

574
00:29:43,410 --> 00:29:46,220
N Dimension was the name I was 
aware of. 

575
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:49,870
And then they go, how much FTX 
money got deposited with Alameda

576
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,910
and she goes 10 to $20 billion. 
So. 

577
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,100
Yeah. 
It's a it's really crazy. 

578
00:29:59,310 --> 00:30:01,740
I'm not gonna lie, 10 to $20 
billion. 

579
00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:04,960
And then they said what I made 
to do with the money. 

580
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:08,190
Repay loans, investments and 
stable coin conversions like 

581
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,030
USC. 
That was about 2 billion. 

582
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,580
What happened? 
The rest it would use for 

583
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:14,940
Alameda's purpose and other 
purposes. 

584
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:17,440
So listen, the threat is very 
long. 

585
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:20,100
I'm not going to read it all for
you guys but it's. 

586
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:23,690
I'll just retweet it for for 
anyone who who wants to see. 

587
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,070
But there's like, it's like a 
massive, massive, massive 

588
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,090
thread. 
That started October 2nd from 

589
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,090
Inner City Press. 
Like, there's like hundreds of 

590
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,410
tweets at this stage and they're
just covering the entire 

591
00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:36,330
situation. 
Do you think so there was there.

592
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:38,210
There was an interesting thing, 
I think so creamy yesterday. 

593
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:41,920
But he came on and was like, 
people like it's bollocks 

594
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:43,150
because he was bearish on 
Bitcoin. 

595
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,970
He was like Mr Bitcoin. 
Essentially SBF is about to go 

596
00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:49,250
down. 
So how can you be bullish on 

597
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,170
this when everything looks like 
a scam right now? 

598
00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:54,160
Like there was something from 
some DEFI heads. 

599
00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:56,820
I forget maybe it was Hayden 
Adams or someone else who 

600
00:30:56,830 --> 00:30:59,350
basically said like, the 
overhang of FTX was starting to 

601
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,910
be forgotten. 
Now it's going to bring 

602
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,580
everything to the front. 
It's going to make everything 

603
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:06,910
like a scam again. 
Do you think that's partly 

604
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,800
what's causing bearish crypto 
sentiment right now? 

605
00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:13,060
Just like why would you get 
involved when this is going on? 

606
00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:15,850
This looks bad for us. 
It was also that Financial Times

607
00:31:15,860 --> 00:31:17,840
article right that came out the 
other day that made a lot of 

608
00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:20,960
noise regarding the crypto and 
the entire industry being fraud 

609
00:31:21,050 --> 00:31:23,690
and they were just naming like 
mainly it was because of SBS. 

610
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,860
So to your point like it's 
already started in terms of the 

611
00:31:25,870 --> 00:31:28,360
fraud from the massive from the 
mainstream media. 

612
00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:30,840
But personally speaking like I, 
I I don't think this is what's 

613
00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:33,820
causing overhang given that 
there's like the whole last like

614
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:35,740
war on the other side of the 
world that could potentially 

615
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:38,790
involve like almost or 
indirectly involving like the 

616
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,600
entire planet. 
But or maybe you know more than 

617
00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:43,260
me like do you think this is 
something that's also causing. 

618
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,770
Definitely in terms of like the 
branding of crypto, it's very 

619
00:31:45,780 --> 00:31:48,950
bad for us. 
Like for sure I agree, but I 

620
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,940
don't know if is that enough to 
like. 

621
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:54,940
Keep this market solo. 
I don't know, I kind of I I I 

622
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:57,280
guess I answer my own question, 
but yeah, I don't I I think now 

623
00:31:57,290 --> 00:31:59,260
is probably an opportunity to 
buy if that's the reason why 

624
00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:03,180
we're going lower because that 
will depart and it's good that 

625
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:05,660
we got rid of him, right. 
Yes, exactly. 

626
00:32:06,410 --> 00:32:10,240
It's definitely really good that
we got rid of SPF and I hope 

627
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:13,980
that he ends up in prison for 
the whole 115 years or 150 years

628
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:16,520
that he's facing. 
It would probably help us a lot 

629
00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:20,220
actually would help us a lot if 
like in that light of that like 

630
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:23,540
case, like the outcome, right. 
That's the most important like 

631
00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:27,220
he gets a massive like massive 
outcome of him going to prison 

632
00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:31,000
for how many years and then 
crypto resumes like like as 

633
00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:32,330
usual and things just get 
better. 

634
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:34,680
And then you know we go into 
hopefully what this could be a 

635
00:32:34,690 --> 00:32:38,460
bill bull market but. 
Anyways, we'll we'll see if 

636
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:41,810
that's the overhang, but it's 
tough to say with everything 

637
00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:44,480
going on in the Middle East like
we were talking about earlier to

638
00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:46,540
see what the overhang is. 
But definitely doesn't help 

639
00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:49,460
anyway. 
So in other news, in other news,

640
00:32:49,470 --> 00:32:51,240
obviously still in crypto 
because that's what we're 

641
00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:52,640
covering. 
I don't know if you guys saw, 

642
00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:58,040
but quite a big PIP came in 
through through the Acorn Dow as

643
00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:02,980
Polygon proposes ape chain 
implementation via AIP. 

644
00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:05,240
So they're proposing a new 
chain, right? 

645
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:07,820
And that would be developed on 
using the Polygon? 

646
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:12,710
CDK focusing on ease and 
modularity, they wanna 

647
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,350
collaboration, they wanna 
collaborate with the ecosystem, 

648
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,990
right? 
That is Polygon Labs ecosystem. 

649
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,990
Obviously they would need like 
funds. 

650
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:26,110
So that's what they're asking 
for and and you know they would 

651
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,630
need to like migrate Acorn to an
to another chain and obviously 

652
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,210
this is completely like separate
from like Yuga Labs as Itcoin 

653
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:38,230
DAO is like a separate entity, 
yadda yadda as you all know. 

654
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:42,100
But as a quote from Sandeep now 
while the co-founder of Polygon 

655
00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:45,180
Labs that you'll probably have 
heard of or no, he says as a 

656
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:48,460
result, by virtue of Acorn DAO 
gaining composability and 

657
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:51,720
interoperability with the entire
modular suite of Polygon 

658
00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:56,620
solutions, the Acorn ecosystem 
will be primed for tremendous 

659
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:58,720
growth. 
So number wise and you know, 

660
00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:01,540
shot lucky trader for putting 
this pretty easily out there, 

661
00:34:01,710 --> 00:34:06,060
they're saying Polygon is 
seeking $200,000 annually. 

662
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:08,719
Honestly doesn't sound like 
crazy to help. 

663
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,489
With implementation and future 
growth. 

664
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:14,030
So now you have to go through 
like like what's going on? 

665
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,370
Like you have like a doll, like 
regular dowel stuff like you 

666
00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:18,949
have to go through like a 
regular AIP process, blah blah, 

667
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,330
blah. 
Assuming that's gonna get 

668
00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:23,510
approved, which I think is gonna
go through and then you have to 

669
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,610
go through the downvote. 
So this is not where you all get

670
00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:30,030
to vote yet or debate on it. 
But what do you think like does 

671
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,800
a coin needs its own chain like,
I don't know if you remember and

672
00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:36,130
you probably do like after the 
whole like $100 million like 

673
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,260
scandal with the the fees like 
Yuga Labs went? 

674
00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:43,550
Right ahead to like tweet about 
like wanting an 8 chain and the 

675
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,469
need to build an A chain, a 
chain which caused like lot of 

676
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,570
conversation, a lot of fun on 
the timeline, right. 

677
00:34:49,580 --> 00:34:53,400
Like given that $100 million 
with burnt during the mint of 

678
00:34:53,409 --> 00:34:56,739
the other side, but what do you 
think like bullish or bearish on

679
00:34:56,750 --> 00:35:00,150
like is this something that vote
for, against or against if you 

680
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,580
were still like part of the 
ecosystem? 

681
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,010
I don't really see what the use.
For a change would be like maybe

682
00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:10,190
it's an in game kind of thing 
which makes it speedier and 

683
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,650
fast, but there's so much other 
technology out there, existing 

684
00:35:13,660 --> 00:35:14,990
tech that you could 
theoretically use. 

685
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,190
So I don't really understand 
what the. 

686
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:22,670
Use case for it would be. 
I think it would be to do with 

687
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,290
the Metaverse, right? 
But like, why? 

688
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:29,000
Why not just use the existing 
technology out there to build 

689
00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:30,790
on? 
Like why just make everything 

690
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,650
and so it I think it would just 
be an L2, right? 

691
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:37,450
It would it basically built 
automatic. 

692
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:43,320
So for example base is really 
built on optimism that basically

693
00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:50,510
trying to do the same thing with
for here I I guess it's it's the

694
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,570
the difference is marginal 
between like doing it automatic 

695
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:58,390
or just using their tax tech as 
a SDK. 

696
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:02,360
I think yeah maybe they could 
just do automatic. 

697
00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:03,990
I'm not surprised. 
It's Matic by the way. 

698
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,390
We were 8 fests and they were 
sponsoring it there and they've 

699
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,150
been causing them for a long, 
long, long, long, long time. 

700
00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,440
So I think this was kind of 
obvious that they would they 

701
00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:15,360
would go down the route of some 
sort of L2. 

702
00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:22,310
Yeah, I think it's strange that 
they are doing this. 

703
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,270
They are the only people to 
submit a proposal. 

704
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,610
Because if I'm an L2 right now 
and there are tonnes of them, I 

705
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:33,510
would expect there to be like 10
different proposals right now, 

706
00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:35,900
right? 
Imagine if you're Arbitrium, or 

707
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:38,760
your Gsync, or your. 
Optimism Looking forward though,

708
00:36:38,770 --> 00:36:40,300
I wouldn't be surprised if they 
do actually. 

709
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,990
They should all try and they 
should all try and do this. 

710
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,270
So like, one thing I would say 
about this is I wouldn't just, I

711
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,930
don't know what's happened, AIP.
I wouldn't just accept it 

712
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:52,090
because Polygon put it forward 
like you could do it. 

713
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:55,410
You could do this with lots and 
lots about L twos and maybe get 

714
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:59,630
a tonne of money to do it, like 
Arbitrium is giving out $50 

715
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,410
million over the next few 
months. 

716
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:04,810
Wow. 
Take that. 

717
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,390
It's gonna get out millions. 
Optimism is gonna give out 

718
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,580
millions. 
Why not? 

719
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:10,870
Yeah, no, it's very interesting,
right? 

720
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,310
It reads. 
Polygon Labs proposes that Acorn

721
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,890
Dial develop and maintain its 
zero knowledge powered layer two

722
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,310
ZK L2 with the Polygon chain 
Development Kit CDK to 

723
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,730
accelerate the growth and 
development of the ecosystem. 

724
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:27,520
Such an endeavour would include 
1A dedicated Acorn ZL2 chain, 

725
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,050
built and maintained by an 
implementation partner that 

726
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:33,370
builds web, three infrastructure
and tooling products to 

727
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:38,710
ecosystem collaboration with 
Polygon Labs 3A Development Fund

728
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,020
from the Acorn. 
Our treasury to help stimulate 

729
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:44,580
the growth of Acorn integrated 
projects. 

730
00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:47,120
So like experiences, 
entertainment, games and 

731
00:37:47,130 --> 00:37:49,240
consumer application, the 
ancient related public goods, 

732
00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:51,880
middleware, marketplaces and 
necessary infrastructures. 

733
00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:55,540
The details of the proposed 
Development Fund are outside the

734
00:37:55,550 --> 00:37:58,660
scope of this IP but can be 
found in a subsequent AIP on the

735
00:37:58,670 --> 00:38:02,580
title, AIP idea blah blah blah. 
So it seems like this is going 

736
00:38:02,590 --> 00:38:08,300
to be the start of a series of 
IP's to build on Polygon and to 

737
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:10,630
move it there I think like if 
you ask me. 

738
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:15,020
From a marketing standpoint is 
genius with Sandeep did to do 

739
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:17,010
something like that right. 
Like we're talking about it. 

740
00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:19,780
I'm sure every single person in 
their mother who has a Twitter 

741
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:23,740
spaces show that it's still 
talking about NFT's in 2023 is 

742
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:26,210
going to be talking about it. 
But it seems, you know here look

743
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:27,230
they've made it very clear, 
right. 

744
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,570
They have the value props here 
just seeing security, low fees, 

745
00:38:30,580 --> 00:38:33,270
share liquidity being one of the
biggest reasons to become a 

746
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,320
thermal two is to gain access to
deep liquidity. 

747
00:38:35,330 --> 00:38:37,220
This will allow users and 
developers to seamlessly 

748
00:38:37,230 --> 00:38:41,420
transact or move across chains 
and then customers. 

749
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,490
Customizability and find these 
words, dude and 

750
00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:48,290
interoperability. 
You have crazy words in crypto 

751
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:50,500
family. 
Swear to God you guys put my 

752
00:38:50,510 --> 00:38:53,700
English to test every morning. 
Uh, near instant withdrawals and

753
00:38:53,710 --> 00:38:59,070
fast finality and a whole lot of
other big words. 

754
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,610
And so Henry Leo here, Sorry 
Harry Lee apologised for that. 

755
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,790
You know, very Simply put, you 
know everything says that the 

756
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,750
benefits are experiencing 
ability, low fees, enhanced 

757
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,310
security interview and then 
estimate completion would just 

758
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,550
be 14 to 16 weeks. 
So not that long. 

759
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:20,830
And. 200K or only for deployment
and maintenance Sounds cheap 

760
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,430
enough for this to go through. 
I've seen some Wilder proposals 

761
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,580
go through right. 
They did. 

762
00:39:25,590 --> 00:39:28,800
The $11 million proposal just 
went through for the buybacks 

763
00:39:28,810 --> 00:39:31,530
and everything. 
So honestly, man, they're like 

764
00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:32,950
you're right. 
Like the other altitudes should 

765
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,910
hurry up and put something out. 
Unless they don't want to be 

766
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,730
involved, but this seems very 
feasible, huh? 

767
00:39:42,490 --> 00:39:46,580
I think it's cheap, but it's 
also a massively big deal for 

768
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:48,260
for Polygon to get something 
like that. 

769
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,710
So I mean the boy names is still
like. 

770
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:54,280
Arguably one of the biggest, one
of the biggest like PFP 

771
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,850
ecosystem there is like you have
still one of the biggest, the 

772
00:39:56,860 --> 00:39:58,360
biggest NFT company there is out
there. 

773
00:39:58,370 --> 00:40:01,240
And I think after you've left 
obviously that probably took a 

774
00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:05,040
lot of like you know, attention 
out of like the PFP, like 

775
00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:09,040
community, core community, like 
things like traffic. 

776
00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:14,880
But it's, I don't know it's, 
it's interesting and I guess 

777
00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:16,390
we'll see what happens. 
I'm curious to see why people 

778
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,460
think like mostly like people 
are still holders of the club 

779
00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:20,740
assets. 
Like what do you guys think 

780
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:23,090
about this being? 
Bullish or bearish, but feel 

781
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,410
free to put that in the comments
Anyways, Next up, Next up 

782
00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:31,330
actually some really big news on
the trade arts on the trade art 

783
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:34,240
side and speaker trade art, 
obviously overnight yesterday 

784
00:40:34,250 --> 00:40:38,230
with the Asbury Studio event for
the opening of Frieze London, 

785
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,310
which is I guess one of the 
biggest art fairs in the world, 

786
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,510
right? 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm

787
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,170
pretty sure the London one is 
one of the biggest, if not the 

788
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:47,190
one you know, It's really, 
really big and it was quite a 

789
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,210
mix of trade and digital art. 
I really liked it. 

790
00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:51,640
We saw Sam Spratt's work being 
exhibited. 

791
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,440
He faced DK. 
What was it? 

792
00:40:55,450 --> 00:40:58,620
Orcon was there. 
And and a few other little kayak

793
00:40:58,630 --> 00:41:00,940
and a few other digital artists 
and whatnot, which she loved to 

794
00:41:00,950 --> 00:41:02,930
see. 
And what I love, dude, man, they

795
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:04,640
should have seen. 
I think they went into kind of a

796
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:09,520
heated debate at some point. 
It was like Flag Ginsburg of I 

797
00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:12,580
keep freaking blocks space. 
Damn it. 

798
00:41:12,590 --> 00:41:15,600
I can't believe I'm blanking on 
this on the company name. 

799
00:41:15,610 --> 00:41:20,840
And then and then and then you 
had Benny Red Beard who we love 

800
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:24,130
was arguing with like a woman. 
She was like she's like the top 

801
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:27,080
top top like editorial person 
when it comes to trade her like 

802
00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:29,550
she's written books and shit 
like she's like the Jerry Saltz 

803
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,020
like, but bigger like like 
female version like even bigger 

804
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:34,910
and whatever. 
But anyway so that that got 

805
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,720
pretty that got heated pretty 
quick. 

806
00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:39,950
But what I love that Benny it 
opened his speech with don't 

807
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,770
hate me by the end of this of 
this stage of this panel for 

808
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:46,430
defending digital art and I 
thought it was really good. 

809
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,210
But you know to Benny's points 
yesterday and I think this 

810
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:54,920
probably backs him a lot. 
The MoMA, the Museum of Modern 

811
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:59,240
Art acquired unsupervised from 
Rafiq Anadol. 

812
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:02,260
So as you all know, like you 
know the exhibit at the moment 

813
00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:04,620
was massive right. 
Like it was one of the most 

814
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:05,920
popular. 
I think there was a statistic 

815
00:42:05,930 --> 00:42:08,470
cause like this crazy at the 
moment has this technology where

816
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,830
like they can actually track 
like foot traffic in front of 

817
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,400
the artwork but also like how 
long people spent in front of 

818
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:15,980
it. 
Right. 

819
00:42:16,050 --> 00:42:18,260
And I forgot the stat and I was 
talking to the one of one guys 

820
00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:20,580
in the in Zook. 
But like it was an absurd amount

821
00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:24,620
of time like that Rafiq's piece 
was actually being consumed by 

822
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:28,820
people going into into the MoMA 
and like watching it. 

823
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:30,620
It seems like they've doubled 
down. 

824
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:33,360
So we covered the moments 
postcards drop last week I 

825
00:42:33,370 --> 00:42:35,260
believe like with a bunch of 
artists that you are familiar 

826
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:38,740
with. 
But last night the news came out

827
00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:42,980
and obviously it was Pablo Frell
who has like a champion of of 

828
00:42:42,990 --> 00:42:44,380
crypto art. 
You know, I think he was the 

829
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:47,500
first person to buy like 
people's pieces like before the 

830
00:42:47,650 --> 00:42:50,500
$69 million sales. 
And he recently bought, wrote an

831
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:52,260
article about it, a thread about
it. 

832
00:42:52,810 --> 00:42:56,000
Legendary, like digital art 
collector, literally like super 

833
00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:57,470
legend. 
Also like icon. 

834
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Like if you guys have ever met 
him, but like super humble and 

835
00:43:00,450 --> 00:43:04,520
like awesome freaking guy. 
But he goes with immense joy and

836
00:43:04,530 --> 00:43:07,070
a profound sense of honour. 
I announced the acquisition of 

837
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,240
Refik Anadol's machine 
hallucinations MoMA by Museum of

838
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:13,280
Modern Art. 
This pivotal moment has been 

839
00:43:13,290 --> 00:43:16,700
made possible through the 
generous contribution by the RFC

840
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:20,260
collection led by Desiree Casoni
and myself, alongside one of one

841
00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:24,680
art spearheaded by Kukula bans. 
This acquisition not only marks 

842
00:43:24,730 --> 00:43:28,950
a grand milestone for a fixed, 
remarkable journey, but also 

843
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,810
inscribes A historic chapter in 
modern art as MoMA welcomes the 

844
00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:37,840
first tokenized artwork into its
esteemed permanent collection. 

845
00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:40,710
Because as you know, museums are
not allowed to, like, sell 

846
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,090
pieces like once. 
It's not, It's not like they're 

847
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:45,660
trading those, right? 
So once it's there, it's pretty 

848
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:48,670
much going to be there forever. 
Ovi, let me go to you. 

849
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,450
I mean, you know, did you ever 
believe like, oh, this happened 

850
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:54,970
so fast because this is 
happening pretty fast. 

851
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,570
And what do you make of this 
this news for MoMA? 

852
00:43:57,580 --> 00:44:00,580
Because pretty big and and the 
pretty big week actually for for

853
00:44:00,590 --> 00:44:03,030
trade arts in general. 
Yeah, it's huge. 

854
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,000
I mean finally the murmur owns 
adapt knowledge and. 

855
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:11,930
It's a great one at that. 
Rafiq, I think is probably one 

856
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:14,910
of the biggest artists in the 
world right now, Not just in the

857
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,270
space of digital, but art 
overall and. 

858
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,330
It's great to see that someone 
of that medium can achieve the 

859
00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:25,350
same heights as any other 
traditional artists out there. 

860
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,000
So it's just it's really awesome
to see this incredible yeah it's

861
00:44:30,010 --> 00:44:31,820
pretty wild man. 
What do you what do you make of 

862
00:44:31,830 --> 00:44:34,220
all this like and you guys you 
guys ever do you guys have a 

863
00:44:34,690 --> 00:44:36,550
Rafiq at all You're by any 
chance in your. 

864
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Collection I wish we did. 
I wish we did. 

865
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:42,080
Wanted to get work very early 
on, but they've started going 

866
00:44:42,090 --> 00:44:44,780
for incredible amounts very, 
very, very quickly. 

867
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,790
It looks like the floor of The 
Winds of Yano Wanna Have is up 

868
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,950
to like 70. 
Even after reveal. 

869
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,890
Yeah, he's a massive artist. 
He's gonna be a massive artist 

870
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:58,810
for the next 20 years. 
Massive mass. 

871
00:44:58,820 --> 00:44:59,930
I mean we you you. 
I know. 

872
00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:01,750
I know you guys have been. 
I mean we've all been fans for a

873
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,150
minute. 
We had Rafiq on early on in the 

874
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,090
show. 
For anyone curious like just go 

875
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,300
back on Jim. 
What Just cool. 

876
00:45:06,310 --> 00:45:08,150
Like Jim Web three were for 
Canada or something. 

877
00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:10,070
We had a sick interview with him
once for like an hour. 

878
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,930
He's also like the funniest guy.
Like he's like so kind. 

879
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,280
It's like he's such a fun guy 
there of you. 

880
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:17,370
Yeah. 
And I think we've had him on 

881
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:18,770
twice. 
We also had him on for his 

882
00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:20,330
Instagram. 
Remember Instagram? 

883
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:23,770
Remember Instagram doing NFT's. 
But but he did a he did an 

884
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:27,250
Instagram and F2 with them. 
But yeah, the the the winds of 

885
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:32,080
Yawanawa are now at 7.9 eighth. 
So even after revealing whatnot 

886
00:45:32,090 --> 00:45:34,190
and they're still going. 
But yeah man, it's actually 

887
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,480
impressive. 
Like I said, like I was in 

888
00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:38,710
Singapore, go to the Orchard 
Mall which is the famous, like 

889
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,030
strip of like all the mega malls
there is there. 

890
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,690
And like the first thing I saw 
was like a gigantic Rafique 

891
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,220
piece. 
Like guys, it was huge. 

892
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:50,250
I can't even, it's probably 
30-40 metres high. 

893
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:53,750
Like it was massive and I was 
like, wait, that's a Rafique. 

894
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:55,930
Look at the wall and they're 
explaining the whole thing about

895
00:45:55,940 --> 00:45:59,350
Refik Anadol and his journey and
the whole thing and everywhere 

896
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,550
you go. 
And the week before that in 

897
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,290
Korea, 10 metres by 10 metres 
was a piece of mental health by 

898
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:06,990
Rafique, like on a massive 
screen. 

899
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,420
So look it looks like Rafiq is 
the the you know the chosen one 

900
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:15,900
right the big artist to to to 
really breakthrough and it's 

901
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:17,180
amazing. 
It's amazing. 

902
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:20,000
You obviously love to see it and
Congrats to our friend Rafiq 

903
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:23,130
Anadol hopefully we can get him 
back on the show soon to like 

904
00:46:23,140 --> 00:46:26,190
kind of like I cannot unwind all
of this because this feels like 

905
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,680
he's been on a he's been on one 
for a few weeks and months like 

906
00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:34,560
he you know it's been it's 
really been popping for a minute

907
00:46:34,570 --> 00:46:37,600
now it's really cool in there. 
Obviously I got to personally 

908
00:46:37,610 --> 00:46:42,810
meet the the one of one you know
a team that collected his last 

909
00:46:42,820 --> 00:46:45,210
one that they had there was 
therapies that was at the moment

910
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:47,640
and they made it happened you 
know Grinders group and whatnot 

911
00:46:47,650 --> 00:46:50,470
and you know they're very very 
excited about this and I know 

912
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,040
that they were really like 
important to like making this 

913
00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:55,920
happen. 
So you know art is having quite 

914
00:46:55,930 --> 00:46:59,090
a moment I, I, I, I follow Roger
Dickerman like daily tweets 

915
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:00,880
about like specific the crypto 
art space. 

916
00:47:00,890 --> 00:47:03,990
So I read the man the minutes 
and I read the Rogers like just 

917
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,980
because he does only art you 
know. 

918
00:47:06,350 --> 00:47:09,260
Yeah. 
And man, Benny's been running 

919
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:12,190
about a lot like arts, really 
having a moment, and I felt it 

920
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,460
in the room yesterday. 
Did you, did you feel that over 

921
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:16,110
a little bit? 
Like it felt like really? 

922
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,430
I don't know. 
It was kind of it was really 

923
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,610
cool to see everything together.
Yeah, I think it was. 

924
00:47:22,860 --> 00:47:25,010
I think it was. 
It was just it's just a it's a 

925
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:30,410
nice space and I think stuff is 
displayed in a good way and 

926
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,410
people are just there because 
they care about art or they 

927
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:38,020
appreciate it. 
And it's, you know, you have a 

928
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:39,960
different appreciation for 
seeing things in the physical 

929
00:47:39,970 --> 00:47:43,750
format than just on your screen 
or your phone, like we saw 

930
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,310
Defaced Piece yesterday. 
So the the, the large print of 

931
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,900
it and that was like an insane 
to see you. 

932
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:52,590
So it was really cool. 
I liked it a lot. 

933
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,310
It was super cool Mando so the 
piece that remember when we 

934
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,340
hosted defence not long ago and 
so he was there himself and 

935
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,490
Benny was there. 
So Penny ended up winning the 

936
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,290
the the bit and so they printed 
it out like it was about this 

937
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:07,810
big and this tall but the IT was
so crisp. 

938
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,900
I need to ask them how did it to
print it out so well. 

939
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:16,000
Like the detail was crazy and 
then defects grabbed the pen and

940
00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:18,410
signed it on the spot and it was
really wholesome. 

941
00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:21,580
I should post video was like 2 
Benny in front of him and then 

942
00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:25,760
sign sign the piece I thought 
was really cute and it was just 

943
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:27,230
awesome. 
I think by the way orchids piece

944
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:31,400
like sold when we were there. 
So it's a it's really cool to 

945
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:32,820
see. 
It was a great mix of like 

946
00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:37,120
$1,000,000 vases and and like 
art from all our homies like 

947
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:39,240
there was a Joe piece. 
Jake Freed. 

948
00:48:39,250 --> 00:48:40,620
I see Jake Freed down there. 
He listens. 

949
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:43,240
Every morning there's Jake 
friend's piece that was that was

950
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:47,850
there. 
There was a Joe Pees you Treta. 

951
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,710
Of course the 7th trait was 
already there, was there as 

952
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,080
usual. 
And then so the crypto punk and 

953
00:48:53,090 --> 00:48:57,200
then a bunch of other pieces, 
but like shot to aspray and I do

954
00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:59,390
want to give a shout. 
You actually been to the actual 

955
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,730
freeze? 
Some Regents park. 

956
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,000
I meant to go now. 
Like in I was meant to go 8 

957
00:49:04,010 --> 00:49:06,590
minutes ago, but I was I was 
going to go. 

958
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,980
Danny just went and sends me 
videos, but apparently packed 

959
00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:10,750
dude. 
Can I read that? 

960
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,900
It's very trader. 
A lot of very. 

961
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,560
It's very. 
Old pieces and should I go? 

962
00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:21,900
It's like, it's like it's. 
It's there's like a masters 

963
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:23,240
section. 
I mean, I've been this year 

964
00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:27,220
obviously, but I went last year 
and it is kind of a it's an 

965
00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:28,320
experience. 
You definitely do. 

966
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,600
OK, well, I'm gonna. 
I mean, the second I'm done with

967
00:49:31,610 --> 00:49:34,190
the show, that's what I'm 
supposed to do, actually. 

968
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:36,330
So. 
So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm 

969
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:38,190
gonna rush there. 
So you know what let's just run 

970
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,230
over to the last topic so I can 
go last topic to the gaming 

971
00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:45,600
again. 
Gaming. 

972
00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:47,180
Hell yeah. 
It's almost like we've been 

973
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:49,800
saying for a long time. 
Like gaming Web 3 is gonna 

974
00:49:49,810 --> 00:49:52,040
really, really take off. 
And as I'm saying this, I'm just

975
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:54,560
gonna quickly send an invite out
to Jonah Blake if he wants to 

976
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:57,440
come up and and break it down 
for us quickly. 

977
00:49:57,450 --> 00:50:01,180
So you have massive news. 
I mean, I think it's massive at 

978
00:50:01,190 --> 00:50:04,340
least the headline is. 
And correct me if I'm wrong, but

979
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:08,360
Immutable and Amazon. 
So Amazon Web Services and 

980
00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:12,940
Immutable are working together 
to shape the future of gaming 

981
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,140
and it reads. 
Through our collaboration with 

982
00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:19,380
Amazon, we will gain access to a
vast pipeline pipeline of game 

983
00:50:19,390 --> 00:50:23,580
studio leads, support for 
successful deal closures and up 

984
00:50:23,590 --> 00:50:30,000
to $100,000 in AWS cloud credits
per Immutable customer. 

985
00:50:30,070 --> 00:50:33,360
When data from the cloud is 
validated on the Etherium, A 

986
00:50:33,370 --> 00:50:37,420
viable model for blockchain 
gaming gets realised. 

987
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:43,640
Immutable has joined Amazon's 
ISV Accelerate programme. 

988
00:50:43,930 --> 00:50:49,610
I mean, man, this is some pretty
big news, right? 

989
00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:53,830
Like Jonah, am I like overdoing 
this, or is this as big as it 

990
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,430
reads? 
I don't know if it's the. 

991
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,290
Biggest thing ever, honestly. 
But it's pretty good. 

992
00:50:58,340 --> 00:51:05,370
Yeah, of course, Jonathan. 
Well, well, I mean, like I I'll 

993
00:51:05,380 --> 00:51:08,010
tell you why. 
I mean, like does it say it's an

994
00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:11,020
exclusive deal? 
I don't know. 

995
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:13,360
I don't think well, well, well, 
well a. 

996
00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:15,440
WSR has a deal with Avax as 
well. 

997
00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:19,820
They do and. 
And Amazon would never sign an 

998
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:21,880
exclusive deal with the chain 
unless they mostly owned it. 

999
00:51:21,890 --> 00:51:25,840
Because people don't realise 
that AWS is like probably the 

1000
00:51:25,850 --> 00:51:30,320
best business in the world, and 
because you service everyone 

1001
00:51:30,370 --> 00:51:32,820
with the with your server tech, 
that also means you have access 

1002
00:51:32,830 --> 00:51:35,680
to everyone's data on a pretty 
deep level. 

1003
00:51:35,810 --> 00:51:38,000
You know everything down to 
which you. 

1004
00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:42,420
You probably have more data than
pitch book in terms of how much 

1005
00:51:42,430 --> 00:51:46,230
money each startup is making, 
because each startup is usually 

1006
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,190
given a WS credits if you're. 
Pure viable startup. 

1007
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,390
And that also means that you 
give up data to them for those 

1008
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,720
credits so they have the best 
research business in the world. 

1009
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:57,130
They know. 
They know what's being built 

1010
00:51:57,140 --> 00:52:00,160
before anyone else knows. 
Wow, that's pretty wild. 

1011
00:52:00,170 --> 00:52:03,300
Well listen, Robbie Ferguson, 
who I believe is the founder. 

1012
00:52:03,310 --> 00:52:06,990
Yeah, co-founder of Immutable 
tweeted out, thrilled to be 

1013
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,750
finally able to share this. 
We're partnering with a WS Cloud

1014
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,050
to make it ridiculously easy to 
build web three games joint go 

1015
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:18,130
to market plus streamline the 
100K in free credits for games 

1016
00:52:18,140 --> 00:52:21,330
building on our platform. 
So it's not bad. 

1017
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:23,150
I mean it, it reads. 
It continues. 

1018
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,740
More than half of all funded 
games in the space are launching

1019
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:28,740
over the next 12 months. 
Google Play and 3rd party app 

1020
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:31,430
stores are opening. 
While experience is approaching 

1021
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,150
Web 2 seamlessness, the Japanese
PM has literally called Web 3 

1022
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,650
gaming a national priority. 
That's why I didn't know that 

1023
00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:41,580
about Japan. 
But Japan once again just being 

1024
00:52:41,590 --> 00:52:43,510
ahead of the curve. 
Honestly, I remember them, they 

1025
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,870
were testing with dollars early 
on this all happening. 

1026
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,320
So I guess bullish on Web 3 
gaming and a lot of stuff going 

1027
00:52:51,330 --> 00:52:56,250
on, you know, doing that, you 
know the headlines. 

1028
00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:58,290
Bullish, right. 
So I wonder how gay. 

1029
00:52:58,300 --> 00:52:59,790
Yeah, yeah, I'm not, I'm not 
bullish. 

1030
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,770
I just want to provide. 
I just want to provide context 

1031
00:53:01,780 --> 00:53:04,700
that like. 
You know, a lot of companies say

1032
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:08,280
a lot of things and like it's 
important to know, like what 

1033
00:53:08,290 --> 00:53:10,700
that can mean. 
Like unless it says this is an 

1034
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:15,330
exclusive deal, it's very good. 
But it doesn't mean it's one of 

1035
00:53:15,340 --> 00:53:17,770
those things where a game goes, 
Ohh, that means we have to work 

1036
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:19,490
with the mutable. 
No, no, of course, no. 

1037
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:22,410
That means and. 
And by the way, if your game is 

1038
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:24,520
really good, you can just go to 
them directly and they'll give 

1039
00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:27,400
you the credits directly. 
Yeah, listen, I'm sure, but if 

1040
00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:29,200
you're trying to be on the 
Mutable, if your builder, you 

1041
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:32,790
can get $100,000 in grants and 
if you need that, definitely try

1042
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,340
and try and get that mandovi any
thoughts on that? 

1043
00:53:35,350 --> 00:53:37,260
Move forward to to start 
listening if not. 

1044
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:39,870
But it seems like that was 
pretty well-rounded up. 

1045
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,760
But the other news was OnStar 
Atlas, I remember Star Atlas 

1046
00:53:43,770 --> 00:53:47,400
2021 like pop, like I actually 
remember trying to pick up some 

1047
00:53:47,410 --> 00:53:51,650
of their tokens early on. 
I wonder how that did overnight 

1048
00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:54,880
maybe Linda you know that but 
building and then it's, it's 

1049
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,290
seen as one of the. 
Shining lights, potentially of a

1050
00:53:57,420 --> 00:54:01,570
resurgence of Solana. 
If I'm on this, yeah, they've 

1051
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:04,130
got a lot of money to build it. 
Yeah, so they go build, build, 

1052
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:06,070
build. 
It's been a busy month at Star 

1053
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,690
Atlas and it's easy to have 
missed something. 

1054
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:12,490
We got you covered. 
So they released Sage Labs, an 

1055
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:16,070
early access 2D browser based 
game built entirely on the 

1056
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,020
Solana blockchain. 
It offers real time gameplay 

1057
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:22,850
with the focus on exploring, 
extracting, scanning and 

1058
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,790
crafting. 
There's a thread about it, you 

1059
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,670
all can go read it, but some 
statistics. 16 + 1,000,000 

1060
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:34,060
Solana transactions, 15% of 
daily Solano transactions, 2 

1061
00:54:34,070 --> 00:54:42,280
million daily transactions, 8500
profiles created, 37.6000 fleets

1062
00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:44,820
created mando. 
Seems like you've looked into it

1063
00:54:44,830 --> 00:54:46,560
a little bit. 
Like do you have you have you 

1064
00:54:46,610 --> 00:54:49,160
dug in a little bit to start 
listen in the ecosystem? 

1065
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:51,380
Well, they have this new game, 
basically. 

1066
00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:56,220
It's obviously not the full 
game, but it's doing the most 

1067
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:58,300
amount of transactions on Solana
right now. 

1068
00:54:58,310 --> 00:55:01,110
Along with the social platform. 
It's doing more transactions 

1069
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,670
that all of Polygon I think I 
saw. 

1070
00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:07,130
I saw that too. 
And the way that Solana works 

1071
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:10,100
obviously is like it's 
everything's on the line, 

1072
00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:14,850
there's no two, so it can really
drive a lot of gas prices there.

1073
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:17,870
I I think it's a proper game out
of all the games coming. 

1074
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,200
It's AAA game. 
This is obviously you often have

1075
00:55:21,210 --> 00:55:23,980
these like mini playable games 
before the main one comes out. 

1076
00:55:25,350 --> 00:55:28,270
And they have. 
They have had people like I've 

1077
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,620
seen. 
Actually like gameplay footage. 

1078
00:55:31,630 --> 00:55:33,830
I think they allowed you to like
play around some of the vehicles

1079
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,600
beforehand, maybe Journal or 
Know, but I've seen people 

1080
00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:39,420
already post content creators 
already have like first access 

1081
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:41,680
videos. 
So kind of what you can do, but 

1082
00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:46,440
it's like a massive world. 
If the other side is meant to be

1083
00:55:46,450 --> 00:55:49,960
kind of a board 8 version, this 
is meant to be like a 

1084
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:55,210
intergalactic style version. 
So I think, yeah, it could. 

1085
00:55:55,220 --> 00:55:55,690
It could. 
It could. 

1086
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:58,360
Definitely pop off. 
Yeah, Jonah, what do you think? 

1087
00:55:59,970 --> 00:56:02,940
So does Star Alice get half? 
Their money back from FTX 

1088
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:05,120
because they lost it during the 
same bank. 

1089
00:56:06,290 --> 00:56:08,870
I remember because like. 
To make a game. 

1090
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,640
Well, that's why like I remember
that they were doing an well 

1091
00:56:12,910 --> 00:56:16,190
whatever I I can say they were 
going for an emergency raise 

1092
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,560
right after and went directly to
to VC's. 

1093
00:56:19,570 --> 00:56:21,420
I don't know if they ever got 
that money. 

1094
00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:25,250
Then they did a a ship sale to 
to make some money back. 

1095
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:26,780
I don't know if they got that 
money back. 

1096
00:56:28,290 --> 00:56:30,640
Sorry, I thought that was like a
special effect. 

1097
00:56:30,650 --> 00:56:31,520
I. 
Didn't know your phone. 

1098
00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:33,240
What did you have? 
Like a black? 

1099
00:56:34,170 --> 00:56:37,280
No, it's my phones on silence, 
but someone called me on 

1100
00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:38,560
WhatsApp and still managed to 
ring. 

1101
00:56:38,570 --> 00:56:40,360
It sounds like a BlackBerry. 
I haven't heard that. 

1102
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:44,180
Sound since 2007 is the sound 
that when when someone calls you

1103
00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:47,930
on WhatsApp but tell me more so 
I I remember that I mean I doubt

1104
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:50,260
they got their money back so I'm
assuming that to raise more 

1105
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:52,590
money right right That's I mean 
that would. 

1106
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,020
Be my assumption. 
I mean, the game looks really 

1107
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:58,740
cool, but I I would just temper 
expectations. 

1108
00:56:58,820 --> 00:57:01,060
Because it looks like they 
trying to make a web three Star 

1109
00:57:01,070 --> 00:57:05,680
Citizen and it took Star Citizen
12 years to make a beta so like.

1110
00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:09,710
Let's just temper our 
expectations a little bit and 

1111
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,450
and I saw their racing game, it 
kind of reminds me of like a PS2

1112
00:57:13,460 --> 00:57:17,000
game and it's not good for my 
business to say those things, 

1113
00:57:17,010 --> 00:57:20,600
but it's true. 
Alright well look, we're we're 

1114
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:22,970
gonna see what happens in the 
store Atlas side, but definitely

1115
00:57:22,980 --> 00:57:27,510
some stuff, some some some new 
stuff keep you know an eye on as

1116
00:57:27,620 --> 00:57:33,650
the world of gaming and Web 3 
continues to grow and to grow 

1117
00:57:33,660 --> 00:57:37,340
non stops. 
OK, go ahead. 

1118
00:57:39,070 --> 00:57:40,980
Just now. 
Yeah, just. 

1119
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,010
I think it was funny to. 
See big time release their token

1120
00:57:45,020 --> 00:57:47,420
I think the other day and it 
already is up 300 million market

1121
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:50,430
cap. 
Wait, what? 

1122
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,330
Yeah, the I I've known. 
About it for a while, but it's a

1123
00:57:54,380 --> 00:57:57,230
it's like a web three MO. 
So it's not a bad game. 

1124
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,200
And they went to market I think 
this week and I looked at the 

1125
00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:02,150
market and like ohh wow 300 
million already. 

1126
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,910
That was fast. 
Made. 

1127
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,470
The central land as well, right?
Or they made. 

1128
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,010
Another game. 
Yeah. 

1129
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,130
OK excellent. 
I'm. 

1130
00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:13,770
I, I, I, I said a joke to one of
the other founders in gaming 

1131
00:58:13,780 --> 00:58:16,030
that we work with and they were 
like, well, how do you think we 

1132
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,490
should go to market? 
And they can't do a token, 

1133
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:21,610
'cause they're US based. 
But I said it went three the 

1134
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:25,210
game is the token, and the 
appetiser is the game itself. 

1135
00:58:26,530 --> 00:58:30,560
That's interesting. 
It's listen, it's it's true 

1136
00:58:30,570 --> 00:58:32,650
actually that's that's pretty 
it's pretty well said. 

1137
00:58:32,660 --> 00:58:34,500
Yeah, it's because we're playing
the game right now. 

1138
00:58:34,510 --> 00:58:36,500
We speculate. 
We have fun, we talk about it, 

1139
00:58:36,510 --> 00:58:39,830
we do a little gamba and then 
the dressing is playing, uh, 

1140
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,900
whatever, a little quiet casual 
game. 

1141
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:43,770
And then the token does whatever
it does. 

1142
00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:47,180
Yeah that's that's pretty 300 
million that's wild. 

1143
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:49,890
I'll, I'll get the news out 
maybe we can cover it tomorrow 

1144
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:51,790
morning. 
Not alright well that was a good

1145
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,690
show some great topics as usual 
seems like they thought to talk 

1146
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:56,930
about and tomorrow it looks like
we're gonna have to talk market 

1147
00:58:56,940 --> 00:58:58,570
a little more. 
I don't know what just happened,

1148
00:58:58,580 --> 00:59:01,690
Mando, or if there was any news 
that came out, but you're right 

1149
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:05,660
and just was kind of looking 
over the prices of all the other

1150
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:08,050
alts if you haven't. 
Done too badly on that? 

1151
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:17,360
26727 is what you hit on Bitcoin
just now and if 1559 right now, 

1152
00:59:18,070 --> 00:59:22,830
Jesus are performing. 
Yeah, that Bitcoin dominance is 

1153
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,500
way down anyways. 
I guess we'll we'll we'll talk 

1154
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:28,710
about it tomorrow. 
But with that, with that, with 

1155
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,180
that was a great show movie. 
Enjoy your birthday night. 

1156
00:59:32,370 --> 00:59:35,080
Let me know if you get into some
crazy shenanigans on even though

1157
00:59:35,090 --> 00:59:37,400
you're not drinking, you're 
training like 17 times a day. 

1158
00:59:37,490 --> 00:59:40,510
I think you should do 340 
burpees tonight, not instead of 

1159
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,300
120 tonight. 
Yeah, birthday burpees. 

1160
00:59:43,370 --> 00:59:45,270
Can't wait for that. 
Remember to wish my boy would be

1161
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,850
a happy birthday. 
Meadow, Joseph pleasures you 

1162
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:49,170
all. 
As usual, I'll see you tomorrow 

1163
00:59:49,180 --> 00:59:50,680
morning. 
And as usual, this show is 

1164
00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:53,790
powered by cracking. 
Check out cracking.com/rug radio

1165
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,610
tomorrow morning Stops. 
But I don't know are we are we 

1166
00:59:59,620 --> 01:00:00,600
meant to do a? 
Stubs link. 

1167
01:00:00,950 --> 01:00:02,180
There is Stubbs. 
It's been going. 

1168
01:00:02,190 --> 01:00:05,880
On ohh doing Yeah alright, no 
worries OK scared me. 

1169
01:00:06,310 --> 01:00:07,380
Alright, bye all.