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Yo-yo, yo-yo yo, what up, what 
up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning, GMG. 

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Tuesday, December 31st, 2020. 
Oh, it's my last time doing 

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this. 444444 Look. 
At that, another beautiful day 

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to have a beautiful day. 
I got my clothes. 

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That was Mando. 
Mando. 

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Mando. 
Mando. 

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There you go. 
There you go. 

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I don't have a producer in the 
house, so I got to do it myself.

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Oh, I could I figure it out. 
Mando. 

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Good morning. 
Last GM of the year. 

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How you doing today? 
Fantastic. 

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What a day. 
What a day dude. 

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What a nice end of year right it
go. 

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It is nice. 
You know, you think Bitcoin's 

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going to going to go back to 100
KGS for the lows today. 

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Just just end the year at 100 
grand 100 bands. 

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Maybe I I think Bitcoin could 
chop here for a little bit. 

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AI coins on the other hand are 
fucking insane. 

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Yeah, yeah, it is true. 
It is, it is true. 

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AI coins are absolutely ripping.
Listen y'all, there is no 

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producer, there's no Tyler. 
It's just Mando and I shooting 

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the shit today for the last show
of of the year. 

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So let me let me get this 
straight. 

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So we have Robit loot box spins 
later today. 

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Then we have obviously we're 
going to chat markets. 

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Let me send the coast and went 
to myriad. 

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Let's just chat about 
everything. 

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Let's just chat about what 
happened this year Funny shit, 

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good shit, bad shit. 
Let's let's make some 

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predictions for next year and 
everything. 

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Let me see the the the 
broadcasting post on FOMO. 

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There it is Love to see that 
here's a link. 

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I'll be sent to you. 
Yeah, it's 100%. 

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Let me let me send you. 
OK, here's a broadcast link Bang

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there you go. 
Let me post that up over here, 

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so we're good see see Sims, I'm 
in control now. 

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I know how all this stuff works.
There you go anyways, today on 

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the show, we'll go through our 
stuff and you know the sponsors 

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today the sponsors will cut me 
some slack galaxies and fair 

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side network. 
We love you guys. 

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Thank you for supporting the 
show and then I'm going to 

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prepare fun mood box during the 
show so that we can we can give 

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away some dope ass NFTS. 
I can probably put some rugrido 

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NFTS back in there. 
Not that we're we actually have 

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a price that's not like 0.006 
ETH. 

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So it's so I think people will 
probably want those together 

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anyways. 
Man, though, dude, man, where do

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we even start with this show 
today? 

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What should we play your Jingle 
one last time for the year? 

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Should we should we even just, 
you know what? 

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Let's just do it one more time 
for the end of the year. 

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Who? 
Is the man. 

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'S Nacho daddy of the land. 
Can you take it, GM? 

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So yeah, crazy ends of the year,
it feels like, Maybe not if 

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you're just looking at Bitcoin 
and stuff, but the Bitcoin did 

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bounce. 
So that 92K level, we went to 91

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1/2 and then hung out there for 
about an hour or so and then we 

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bounced. 
Interestingly, micro strategy 

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was lower again yesterday. 
So that's still kind of like an 

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underlying tension, I think in 
the Bitcoin market. 

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But we bounced majors all 
bounce. 

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Solano is slightly outperforming
again here today, but have a 

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good day across the across the 
board. 

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I think you'd be pretty blind to
see that to have missed kind of 

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what's been going on AI coins by
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If anything, it's only getting 
even bigger every day I come in 

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and every day it's gotten more 
crazy. 

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So you had AI16Z flipped with 
Ampengu today as the well, it's 

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not really a meme coin, but like
that kind of tells you if you've

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been fading it, as I've been 
saying for so long now, if 

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you've been fading all this 
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It's, it is, I think this stuff,
even if it, you know, you sell, 

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buy it on a retrace like this 
stuff is going insane. 

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Yeah. 
So 2 billion for AI16Z Virtuals 

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is nearly about to hit 4 
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It looks like zero, bro. 
Yesterday announced a very 

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similar sort of tokenomics 
change to what caused the pump 

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in AI16Z. 
That is now at $620 million. 

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AIXBT hit $600 million. 
That got investment from 

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Quantum, the Quantum Cats team 
and got a Quantum Cats I think 

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sent to them as well. 
Yeah, I think sent. 

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I mean, it has the extras wallet
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So was it set? 
Oh yeah. 

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And they sent them a second one 
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So they sent it to them. 
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its own at first, but I don't 
think it has a capacity. 

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Yeah, no, it didn't. 
A number of like the mid tier 

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ones. 
I would say it's like Griffane, 

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Ark all of these hit new highs. 
Infra has definitely been the 

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play of the last month or less. 
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and GOAT kind of cooled. 
But these infra plays I've just 

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gone insane. 
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most interesting. 
AI16Z is probably the most 

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interesting in terms of info for
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I still think it's because it's 
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Like they probably got the best 
chance to have like a very 

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successful marketplace now that 
they've changed over tokenomics.

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The main thing they did last 
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everything about the token, 
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They basically said, hey, we're 
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or at least that's not going to 
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We're going to release a 
marketplace similar to virtuals.

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And then Zerobro basically 
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yesterday, although Zerobro we 
doesn't have the same sort of 

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wider appeal as a as, as you 
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same sort of downloads that sort
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Then Ark is a similar sort of 
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This is built with rust. 
Fuck brother, I put this this. 

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This bag is nearly as bad as my 
goat bag at this stage. 

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What the? 
Fuck. 

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Well, easily nearly. 
It's like this stuff has gone 

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insane. 
It's like small buys of of these

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infra plays. 
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since that news came out on 
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Like this whole thing, because 
what they're basically people 

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now trying to say are what 
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these these can be L ones. 
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them. 
They could be like any 

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transaction that you do using 
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the gas fee in some sort of way.
They could be used to like 

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create the agents for trading 
between the agents, all that 

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sort of stuff. 
So like people are now starting 

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to view them in a different lens
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with the big open source 
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popular frameworks that these 
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different sort of way. 
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was probably spoken about like a
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tokens were designed like that. 
Like none of the tokens were 

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really designed to, to apart 
from virtuals, which is like the

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best flywheel. 
Now they've all within the space

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of a week changed the flywheels.
So like you have very different 

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sort of tokens being spoken 
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So yeah, kind of kind of insane 
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bunch of those. 
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what to to like make of it here.
Like I, I was speaking to Obie 

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about it because every single 
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last two months I've been saying
to him, hey, you need to pay 

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attention to this. 
Hey, just like I did with you at

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the start and then you started 
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Hasn't come on the show because 
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No, no, I didn't call him out. 
I just said I've been telling 

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him to do that. 
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was, oh, you know, I just, I 
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this stuff, which is very fair. 
I think that is one of the main 

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things that I, you know, I think
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the attrition and the between 
some of these tokens can be 

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very, very high. 
Like you probably need to pay 

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attention to it in the same way 
pay attention to like NFTS 

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during the last cycle. 
But this stuff is just going 

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crazy and it's got this like 
normally normally appeal and I 

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think what the normally appeal 
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could maybe could actually be 
the product market fit here for 

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crypto at the moment. 
There's a lot of like anti 

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feeling around this because 
they're just chat bots and 

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they're like they're just 
laughing, which is 100% true. 

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Like if you go on to virtuals 
right now, all the tokens are 

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basically just chat bots. 
All the tokens that have been 

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created so far, like 90% of them
are just chat bots. 

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But you've started to see the, 
the, the changing of is that 

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like maybe they could turn into 
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So they start to do stuff. 
Maybe they could be, maybe they 

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could give you advice, which is 
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although I think that token may 
maybe now they're trying to like

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make a Bloomberg Terminal out of
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But maybe, like the other thing 
is maybe they could be used to 

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buy things for you, you know, 
like moon pay and Shopify all 

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integrated with with Solana now.
So you could be like, hey, to 

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this agent, Hey, could you do my
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Could you could you pay my bills
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Like all as soon as these all 
these different things have a 

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crypto front end, then suddenly 
these agents can be doing quite 

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a lot more. 
So like a lot of people are 

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being like, Oh, well, at the 
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Yes, 100%, but I think what 
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into the realm of is number one,
they can do stuff in crypto. 

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So they could do payments in 
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crypto. 
They could do, I don't know, 

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defy stuff for you in crypto. 
But then it's also outside of 

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crypto. 
Like if you if you tell your 

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normally friend for OK, I got 
this bot that pays all my bills 

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for me IRL, like pays my 
Netflix, pays my Shopify. 

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Yeah, or like looks for deals 
for me on different things. 

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I actually think that this could
people are now viewing, this is 

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like, OK, well, this could be 
bigger than that. 

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It could. 
It's not just like a crypto 

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specific thing. 
And although we're completely at

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the foothills of this and like 
there's a lot of big concepts 

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about what it could be. 
It just so reminds me of the 

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beginning of NFTS, you know, 
like where people have huge 

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views about what they could do 
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And in the end, like 18 months 
down the line, it all kind of 

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fell apart and it never really 
happened. 

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But we're at this started in 
October. 

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This would be like need to 
remember like this is like March

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of NFTS 2021. 
We're in right now if that that 

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started in December, we're in 
March and that ran for another 

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at least another year. 
We had a horrible April and then

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we pumped. 
But but different things ran 

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right. 
It didn't actually. 

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It had a horrible April. 
But then everything ran again 

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and board apes hit their high in
May of 2022. 

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Yeah, that just minted in April,
so end of April then May then 

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you know. 
No, no, it's in like the next 

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year. 
Oh yeah, 15 months after that, 

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like. 
And that was. 

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Peak we're going to build the 
metaverse other side mint right 

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like that's. 
Crazy. 

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I just people, I think people 
are fading this well before the 

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time that people should be 
fading it. 

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I just think that like this 
stuff can just keep going. 

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So there's a lot of laughing, 
There's a lot of blue sky 

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thinking like, Oh my God, this 
is going to change the complete 

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world. 
And maybe that doesn't work out.

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And I'm fully, fully, fully 
cognizant of all of that. 

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But what I'm starting to see, 
and I do that other show with 

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invest answers on a Monday, 
right. 

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And that show is traditionally 
been very anti meme. 

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Like they don't like memes or 
like the viewers don't like 

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memes and they wouldn't have 
probably liked NF TS life cycle,

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but they like this stuff. 
They're like, oh, you know, this

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is really interesting. 
This is tech. 

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You know, this is like what I 
think we're going to see here is

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a rotation from altcoins into 
this stuff. 

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Like I, I think originally what 
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from other meme coins. 
What I think we're about to see 

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is like the total market gap of 
all these AI agents is 13 

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billion or 12 billion, something
like that. 

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XRP is 200 billion. 
XRP is 200 billion. 

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For what? 
No one really uses it. 

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I I generally want to know for 
what? 

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Like I I don't even want to talk
about it. 

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And I'm telling you that this 
space is now 12 billion and I 

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think it has the potential to on
board millions, hundreds of 

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millions of people to products 
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the back of it as well. 
It's gone to 14 billion today. 

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Is that the entire time? 
The the the the entire time? 

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For me, the actual like, OK, 
that's the word. 

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Like the special thing about it 
was not AI. 

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It was actually blockchain 
adaptation to it because people 

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care about it once there's a 
price action, price touch 

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attached to it at in some it 
really clicked for me overnight.

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Think I like finally, like let 
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time for it, or oh, it's 
worthless. 

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Like I don't think any of these 
need a coin for what it's worth.

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But if the coin is attached to a
mind share, why could this not 

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be worth more than an image of a
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I think, I think the the reason 
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was tough at the start for sure.
But now that they're creating 

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these flywheels and the same 
with the virtuals is like I can 

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imagine like why do you need a 
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It's why. 
Do you? 

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Why does it's? 
For a gas token, it's for a gas 

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token. 
So if this become please turn to

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L ones or they start to come 
into marketplaces, we have to 

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buy the coins or maybe you have 
to buy a subscription to a 

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particular AI agent in a coin. 
They they're really, there's 

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really been a step change in 
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That's basically what happened 
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Like everyone was super bullish 
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And then AI16Z basically said, 
hey, we have this old 

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tokenomics, which is this Dow. 
We ain't going to do that 

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anymore. 
We're going to do what the best 

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tokenomics thing was, which is 
virtuals. 

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And now every single one of 
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said yeah, yeah, that's the 
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And that's why you see AI 16 
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to 2 billion. 
You've seen zero bro trading 

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from 300 million to 620,000,000.
You've seen Griffane Ark both do

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two or three. 
Look at the seven day changes in

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in in in prices right like. 
This website is in. 

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XPTT is up 80% versus up 20 AIC.
This is just because AI16Z 

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decided to change this tokenomic
and all these other ones and now

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it's time to see the same thing.
So AISBT is now running because 

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people are like, well, AISBT 
could probably do the same 

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thing, right? 
Like we could now we could now 

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create agents for you in in 
crypto that do kind of the, you 

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know, the genius bar stuff for 
crypto, right? 

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So all of these agent coins are 
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whether that is like saturated 
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It feels a little bit saturated 
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think that that shift has meant 
the AI coins can go higher and 

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virtual's is trading at $4 
billion despite no one really 

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using virtual agents every 
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Like there is. 
I just think that this stuff has

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really wild normie appeal that 
people in people in the meme 

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coin space maybe don't 
appreciate. 

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Like I don't know what the 
altcoin market cap is like if I 

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go to others what's what's the 
others market cap? 

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Let me tell you that's. 
Outside the top ten, right, 

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that's 350 billion OK of others,
of which I would assume like a 

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decent chunk of that is memes. 
So let's say that's like, well. 

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If 345 billion are others, I see
memes. 

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Isn't there a thing for memes? 
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Memes. 
Memes. 

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I think it's about 100 billion 
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that would include doge and I 
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So like I would say I've. 
Heard of that, a four, a fourth 

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of that quarter, quarter of 
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Quarter of that is probably 
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Something like that. 
It's. 

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Fair. 
So we're talking about like $250

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billion of vaporware altcoins to
a large extent. 

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Right, this looks bottomless. 
Fuck right there like right 

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others looks like it's. 
It actually looks like the 

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Solana chart, ironically. 
Like and I think there is a type

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like clearly I've said on this 
chart, I went, I went really big

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into GOAT like I got, you know, 
nearly 1% of the supply, the 

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supply there. 
You still have that has. 

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Gone up and it's gone down and 
I'm still up massively on all 

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the other stuff I bought. 
Like you can be early, but you 

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also like this concept of like 
not taking the trade. 

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And I think like Bartcoin has 
done a 10X since I bought it. 

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AI16Z has done a 20X since I 
bought, since I bought it. 

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It's done 100 X since it went on
to moon shot. 

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I got that notification today. 
Arcus has done a 4X like this 

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stuff is going insane. 
Like I, I really, I really, 

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really think just pay attention 
to it. 

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It's it's like, I really think 
this has got the, the normie 

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appeal stuff that that memes 
have, but it's also got the, the

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normie tech appeal here where 
like people who are investing in

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altcoins would never touch 
memes. 

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They're like, no, I don't want 
to own this stuff. 

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They want to buy this. 
And weirdly, the people who buy 

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memes and NFTS, that's who I see
like the majority of the push 

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back from, they're like, oh, you
know, this stuff like KB, Ms., I

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think a big believer in all this
stuff. 

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There he is, the the, the 
biggest, the you know what, 

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ironically, the biggest bear, 
but the biggest bull when it 

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comes to AI. 
He's a huge AI bull. 

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Huge AI bull I mean we've been 
talking about for weeks on rec 

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he's. 
Everywhere. 

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He has been talking about 
forever. 

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He's hosting about it. 
He's actually we're talking. 

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Remember I was like, I'm not 
sure about them and you were the

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one telling me no broke this 
shit's going to go, you know, so

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you. 
You I said I like the AI PT. 

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It was like it was pretty low 
down there, but. 

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You and for us on our end, it 
was Tyler. 

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Man, fucking Tyler did it. 
Dude. 

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This guy's been pounding his 
first about AIXBT in the chat. 

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Yeah, it was just different. 
You could tell. 

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It was just a different feel to 
it compared. 

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To other agents. 
So how do you feel like today 

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clearly like it's, it's a big AI
day, right? 

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Like Mendo's talking about, you 
know, we're talking about the 

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market cap of others in crypto. 
He's talking about how there's a

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potential of like utility 
tokens, money flowing into AI 

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coins for this, for this coming 
cycle. 

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Like, how do you, what do you, 
what do you make of all that? 

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No, I think he's right. 
I mean, we've already seen it in

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this choppy market. 
I mean, the majors are holding 

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up well today, but every time 
they start to pump the AI coins,

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you know, catch a bid. 
So it's kind of clear that 

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that'll be the next narrative 
that just continues. 

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I think it's just the easier 
narrative for people to wrap 

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their heads around too. 
It's like people like me who 

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maybe you didn't trade the meme 
coins as well, where it's like, 

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hey, it's this guy's dog's named
Rupert. 

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Like you're like going down that
rabbit hole. 

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Like that's not as easy as like 
for many people to get on board 

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with. 
I mean, it's really vaporous. 

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Or is this at least you feel 
like you're investing in maybe 

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something. 
It's also vapor for the most 

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part, but like the narrative 
feels heavier, like it feels 

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like you can just spin this 
narrative better and I don't 

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know it, it feels a little. 
What? 

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What makes Someone Like You who 
like in you tweet about this 

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like you don't really get meme 
coins Like it's something you're

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saying, right? 
You don't. 

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Like, I mean, I get him, I like 
him, but it's just so I fucking 

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just, I don't know. 
Like it hasn't been your Forte 

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so like what makes you 
understand AIAI stuff before 

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most? 
Cause for most people it was 

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vaporware until today. 
Yeah, I mean, maybe because 

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there's something attached to 
it, or you can go into like the 

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Githubs and you can go in and 
see like what they're doing. 

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You can see products that are 
made. 

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I mean, usually, sometimes 
that's bearish and crypto, 

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right? 
If you ship, people put a 

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valuation cap on you in 
different ways. 

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But I think that just makes it 
easier to like take an analysis 

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approach, a fundamental analysis
approach. 

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And. 
Technical analysis approach and 

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just combine those rather than 
just, you know, hoping and 

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guessing that people catch on to
this meme. 

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You can at least like have so 
you can sleep at night, I should

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say like OK, this company is 
shipping. 

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They're creating something like 
they're going to have news in 

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the future, whereas like you're 
relying on that narrative with 

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the meme coin and there's not 
going to be a news release. 

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Whereas like you know you're 
buying Griffin, they're going to

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release a new ship a new thing 
tomorrow or ship a new thing 

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next week. 
You can kind of just like sleep 

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better at night for me. 
Like I'm more comfortable 

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tasting like 6 figs. 
Always for bearish, by the way, 

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guys like because all the time, 
I feel like 2024 was the year of

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like meme coins, obviously 
Bitcoin and meme coins, right? 

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That was kind of 2020 fours in 
in a nutshell. 

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And it was like, while bearish 
on utility, bearish on teams, 

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and all of a sudden we're seeing
kind of a swap. 

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I actually, I think it's the 
right question to ask, but I 

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think it's not the question to 
ask in March of the 2021 cycle. 

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That's what I basically think. 
I think what we're actually 

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seeing is firstly, and I put 
this out yesterday, like, what 

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is the, what was the biggest lap
here, right? 

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Like, because I think a lot of 
people are like, oh, it's a lap,

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it's a lap, it's a lap. 
All of this stuff, right? 

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And I put out what was the 
biggest laugh lap. 

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All coins in 2017, NFTS in 2021 
mean coins in 2024 or these AI 

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coins. 
AI coins actually won in that 

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people thought it was the 
biggest lap out of all this 

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stuff. 
That's. 

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Funny, I I would argue that that
what I have just described of 

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this concept of hey, imagine 
saying to your friend, I have 

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this agent that buys stuff for 
me. 

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Like does my shopping for me 
like you could do shopping for 

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you on Amazon, like find deals 
or does does my weekly shop for 

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me? 
Does what all of that because 

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they all all have crypto front 
ends. 

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It does trading for me, like it 
invests for me. 

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And that could you know, who 
knows? 

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That could broaden out into like
broader, broader things, not 

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just crypto, right. 
Like if they have again, a 

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crypto front end, it could 
invest in lots of different 

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things for you. 
It can actively trade for me in 

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crypto, like it could trade 
searching new meme coin pairs. 

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It could, it could trade 
existing big cat tokens and or 

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it could do defy stuff. 
It can make payments for you to 

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your friends. 
Like I, I, we run various 

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businesses in crypto. 
Like can you just pay my 10 

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employees for me today, you 
know? 

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I mean, can you AI is going to 
replace the executive assistant.

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It's going to like, if you 
believe in that, like I was 

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talking with Danny about this 
over the holidays, like AI is 

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going to replace a lot of the 
jobs. 

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Like the paralegal is finished. 
There's no more need for fucking

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paralegal soon. 
But there's going to need to 

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serve someone to go to trial for
you and like beat the case, 

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right? 
But there's a lot of the the 

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little the, you know, the like, 
one day, like, fuck yeah, I 

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could even like robots will 
replace even like this tiny 

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little surgeon that will have 
the doctor over them. 

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So if you believe in that piece 
of AI, then why would not apply 

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to your? 
Database a massive macro trend 

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that isn't just like, oh, this 
has to happen in crypto now so 

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like all. 
Kicked when they had a token to 

448
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,280
people. 
I think it proves that the 

449
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840
financialization of it because 
we knew that, right, Mando, like

450
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,720
when ChatGPT came out, we all 
said, oh, Wanda's going to book 

451
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,160
your travels. 
We've been talking about this 

452
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,640
for like 3 years, like 2 years. 
I don't know, like it was always

453
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,080
a thesis, right? 
Oh, go to ChatGPT, book me a 

454
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,800
trip to Florence and tell me 
exactly what to see in Italy, 

455
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,120
right? 
That was always a thing. 

456
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,040
It's not new. 
It doesn't come with crypto. 

457
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,520
But but you need a crypt like 
this is the great thing about 

458
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,920
that. 
Like normal LLMS, their ability 

459
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,640
to like access your bank 
account, I think is going to be 

460
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,680
far more difficult And like also
be autonomous around that is 

461
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,920
going to be far, far more 
difficult than an an agent with 

462
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200
it, which you fund its wallet, 
right. 

463
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,000
So like what I actually think is
crypto is a much better way for 

464
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,160
AI to use money. 
It's it's like that is just a 

465
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,440
fact. 
So you, what you have here is 

466
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,920
like a broader trend in AI 
agents, which is happening with 

467
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,920
big tech as well, right? 
Like Meta announced they've got 

468
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,040
AI agents coming to Facebook and
and Instagram yesterday, right? 

469
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,640
So it's like a big underlying 
trend. 

470
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,360
But I guess what I'm trying to 
say is the lapiness of it. 

471
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,640
What is the bigger lap here? 
Is it the lap what I just said, 

472
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,720
which yes, the coin itself, like
we still need to work out how 

473
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,600
that value happens. 
Maybe all these transactions 

474
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,720
have to happen on their LL one. 
Maybe you have to only pay for 

475
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280
it in their coin, like you can 
only buy this agent in their 

476
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,360
coin. 
You pay for a subscription in 

477
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,320
their coin, in which case, or 
maybe it's like a buy and burn 

478
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840
thing. 
You can argue that sometimes 

479
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,840
that could you know, those 
models haven't really worked out

480
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,680
that grain crypto, but they're 
still like they're still 

481
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,920
probably going to be use case of
a coin somewhere in there down 

482
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,680
the line where it wasn't 
happening before was like when 

483
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,880
it was all Dows and self, which 
I was like, Oh God, this this 

484
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,080
could be a bit grim, but if it's
just like marketplaces and L 

485
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,640
ones, I think that's far 
cleaner. 

486
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,960
Or is it a jpg that you own, 
which is a Veblen good because a

487
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,560
celebrity owns it? 
Or is it a meme coin because, 

488
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,840
you know, somebody owns 
somebody's dog, as KBM says, 

489
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,120
like, what is the bigger lap to 
annoy me? 

490
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,200
I would actually say the the the
least sloppy thing is the AI 

491
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,440
agent. 
Like if you were to pitch it to 

492
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,120
ignore me. 
Now, the weird thing is in 

493
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,400
crypto, people might look at 
that completely opposite way 

494
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,200
around because we all hate 
fucking utility and the only 

495
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,920
pure stuff for us is just like 
memes. 

496
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,360
But I actually think what we're 
going to see here is, and what I

497
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,800
was saying to you with that 
Monday, Monday show that I do is

498
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,960
they all are jumping at this 
stuff like the normies, like the

499
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,560
people who are more like altcoin
investors or like they don't 

500
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,560
want. 
AI right? 

501
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Normies love AI this shit. 
Is the is the bomb that is. 

502
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,520
That is the best stuff I've ever
seen. 

503
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840
They love AI bro. 
I remember when I. 

504
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840
Was going to say like funds and 
like you can spin up funds and 

505
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,040
invest in this kind of shit 
where it's just like, you know, 

506
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,360
tell talking to your LP's and 
tell them you're going to buy 

507
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,680
peanut the squirrel and then 
well, he's fucking dead. 

508
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,560
It's over. 
There's no more peanut news 

509
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,760
coming out. 
But like funds can spin up these

510
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,840
and like be like, oh, we're 
investing in this AI 

511
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560
infrastructure and like there's 
going to be underlying bids that

512
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,320
are just way more prevalent and 
these kind of things. 

513
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,680
But think Meno is also correct 
that like finding a value 

514
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,240
proposition for the coins, it's,
it's been a struggle for crypto 

515
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,360
since the beginning. 
So that part's always difficult 

516
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840
and that part might be the LARP 
and it probably is the LARP, but

517
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,000
that doesn't really stop you 
from making money on these kind 

518
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,640
of trends. 
Yeah, I think you should 

519
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,720
approach this stuff with the 
same amount of healthy loppiness

520
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,760
that you approach NFTS with 
utility in 2021. 

521
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,200
You know, like I'll buy into the
dream. 

522
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,400
I completely understand. 
It's a dream that may not 

523
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,800
happen, right? 
But it can. 

524
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,400
But it can also have that 
massive normally appeal if 

525
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,000
Eminem buys my thing, right? 
This is true. 

526
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Right, What, what, what you're 
really doing there is being 

527
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,120
like, I don't know if in a 
year's time or in 18 months 

528
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:25,400
time, AI16Z will do any of the 
stuff that it says it's going to

529
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,920
do. 
But until then, people can have 

530
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,880
crazy views on what some of this
stuff can do now. 

531
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,560
And I like, I also, I really 
like the meme bit of it, as I've

532
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,480
already said, like the, the far 
coin goat stuff, because I think

533
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,200
that's like it's, there's only 
very, very short list of like 

534
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,080
memes, which we love in crypto 
as like having a purity about 

535
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,280
them because they are the coins.
They've like people like them as

536
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,840
coins way more than utility 
coins. 

537
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,120
All of this stuff is just going 
nuts. 

538
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,760
And it's altcoin investors that 
are coming in and being like, 

539
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,520
Hey, this actually has a product
market fit. 

540
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,640
XRP is 200 billion and doesn't 
have a product market fit right 

541
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,880
now. 
Or at least it's like trying to 

542
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,960
search for one and, and suddenly
you have stuff which you already

543
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,520
has. 
It already has it. 

544
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,360
Like the product market fit is 
so easy. 

545
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,880
It's reachable for a lot of 
these people very, very quickly.

546
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,440
So I think what I, what I've 
seen in so many of our NFT, like

547
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,400
our chats for is like, just like
a, a disdain for it all and 

548
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,160
like, Oh yeah, it's. 
Yeah, I mean, I remember early 

549
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,600
on I was telling you guys like 
this is just NF TS ran back like

550
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,000
I I caught on to the NFT 
narrative like or analogy like 

551
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440
day 0. 
I just didn't buy in until I 

552
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,560
went on a fart coin, which that 
saved me from missing this 

553
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,240
entire boat. 
So I'm not coping because I 

554
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,200
fucked on a fart coin. 
Literally my. 

555
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,240
And it's the most pure like 
that. 

556
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,920
And I think that and Go are the 
most pure token plays. 

557
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,720
But they haven't got the utility
play, right. 

558
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,920
They haven't got this utility 
play. 

559
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880
And what's really happened now 
is that the utility play is 

560
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,120
actually what normies want. 
They want, they want, you want 

561
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,280
it. 
Where do you start now? 

562
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,560
So this question is right. 
People are like, what is this? 

563
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,480
Is it too late? 
I think we all agree that it's 

564
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,440
not too late because we have a 
whole year of bull market 

565
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,800
coming. 
I do want your thoughts on what 

566
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,400
you think is going to happen in 
2025. 

567
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200
But you know what, where do you 
start then? 

568
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Like these coins are already at 
a. 

569
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Yeah. 
So I think that's the that's the

570
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,520
question, that's the main push 
back, right? 

571
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Like how many coins really go 
over 2 billion like on? 

572
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Where you've chosen is it that 
like no, no other coins will 

573
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200
reach 500 to a billion, but the 
ones that have the billion to a 

574
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,880
billion are going to 10 billion,
five billion, 20 billion fifty 

575
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920
or or like what's the upside 
here for a trader? 

576
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,640
So this is this was what I this 
is how I approached NFTS in 

577
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640
2021, right? 
Like as well, like I knew it was

578
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,960
early was it was like too early.
Like what what you buy, like if 

579
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040
the space does a 10X, have you 
bought the asset does the 10X 

580
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,520
right? 
And I've been right on some of 

581
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,920
that stuff. 
I've been wrong on some of that 

582
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,960
stuff. 
But what I generally think is 

583
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,240
that's going to still be the 
same. 

584
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,360
Like I still think that that's 
that figure was literally 12 

585
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,720
billion two days ago and now 
it's 15 billion. 

586
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,280
I think that figure will go to 
50 relatively quickly. 

587
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,960
I don't know what will be the 
10X in that stuff, but but I 

588
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,400
would guess that there are, 
there are certain ones now which

589
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,040
kind of which stand out, I would
say. 

590
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680
And it would be tough for them 
not to be included in that. 

591
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,760
But even if it's not that, I 
think it's very clear that this 

592
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,120
is the space where there will be
runners to a billion relatively 

593
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,920
quickly. 
I don't know if you did you see 

594
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,640
Anson yesterday? 
Did you see that tweet from 

595
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,520
Anson? 
Did you go to his feed? 

596
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Go to his feed because he 
retweeted something which I 

597
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:45,000
thought was interesting. 
Which which retweet. 

598
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Just go down. 
The one where he says he drinks 

599
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,440
don't come off a woman's breast,
right? 

600
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Not that one, no, I'll I'll send
you the link to it. 

601
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,760
But like a new firm was like did
a like a it's called Litmus. 

602
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,840
I'm sending it to you now. 
There it is. 

603
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,760
I found it. 
I found it. 

604
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,480
I found it. 
Let's. 

605
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Just watch. 
Let's just watch this as a as A 

606
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,760
and just turn it up from it's 3 
minutes long, so maybe it's too 

607
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
long, but we can we can watch 
you get the sense. 

608
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,040
Open up limiters on my laptop 
you. 

609
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,360
Here. 
Yeah, you got it. 

610
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,440
I really don't like this. 
Coin. 

611
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,960
I'm listening. 
That's some shit going on here. 

612
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,520
Index for all new coins that 
went to 10 mil plus market cap. 

613
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Here's a list of coins that went
to 10 million plus market cap 

614
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800
today. 
ZWOG has the highest volume. 

615
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Would you like me to analyze 
further? 

616
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Sure, let's do it. 
Here's a detailed breakdown on 

617
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,760
swag scan. 
For potential insider buys. 

618
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,080
A wallet starting with HG 67 
made a significant buy early in 

619
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,000
the tokens launch. 
Would you like to track this 

620
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,400
wallet? 
Yes, please notify me of this 

621
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,800
wallet similar purchases. 
Sure thing, I will notify you of

622
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,760
this wallet's future activities.
That's so crazy. 

623
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,200
There's 3 minutes of this sort 
of stuff, like all the stuff you

624
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,120
can do with these sort of well. 
I mean it's set the limit by 

625
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,240
order 4. 
Let me I'll lower the the volume

626
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,600
while you explain this. 
This is the. 

627
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Point of what I'm trying to make
here more is that there are 

628
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,160
going to be new coins like this 
coming a lot, a lot, right? 

629
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,520
Then they show the integrations 
like the Netflix that you can 

630
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,280
buy stuff with like and if 
you're not, even if you don't 

631
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,080
want to be like, I don't want to
buy a point of 2 billion. 

632
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,080
You know, I don't want to do 
that. 

633
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Then then I think you're just 
going to like turn off the 

634
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,480
blinkers for like, Oh, this is 
all lists a lot because I don't 

635
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,440
think it will be and I think I 
think a lot of these newer coins

636
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,200
will also run like even that. 
What was that one on hyper 

637
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,280
liquid that happened in a day, 
right? 

638
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Vapor, which is it's just kind 
of just like a a well 

639
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,880
orchestrated flywheel. 
It's not like it's anything 

640
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,080
crazy. 
Went to 150 billion 150. 

641
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,560
Million bring the eco in the 
right ecosystem at the right 

642
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,320
time for that right. 
Fucking send it all you really 

643
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,480
need to do. 
You need to take, you take, you 

644
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,120
take, you need to take your nuts
out and you place them on the 

645
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,720
table and that's all this is. 
I think people don't understand 

646
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,680
what's going to happen in next 
year. 

647
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:20,040
I mean, 2025 is going to be the 
greatest flip of wealth and 

648
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,520
power in the world that we've 
ever seen. 

649
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,000
Simply put, that's it. 
There's no questions asked. 

650
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160
That's what's about to happen. 
To AI coin investors, right? 

651
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,520
Yeah. 
By what? 

652
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,160
What? 
What are your thoughts of the AI

653
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,760
stuff? 
What are you? 

654
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,400
What are you holding? 
What's Benny Holden? 

655
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,680
I hold, I hold a little bit of 
everything, but really I'm not 

656
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,960
as much as I'm interested in the
AI coins, like I tweeted the 

657
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,120
other day, what I'm really 
interested in is when is the AI 

658
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,840
going to become sentient and try
to kill other AI, OK. 

659
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Because I think that's more 
fascinating to me because it's 

660
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,360
kind of like, we need to like, 
have a Society of AIS that 

661
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,040
really want to destroy other AIS
so that they're better, right? 

662
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,480
They're being too friendly to 
each. 

663
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,840
Other it's way too friendly. 
Keep respecting each other, 

664
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,800
right? 
They're respecting. 

665
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Each other a bit too much like. 
You know this. 

666
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Got great calls, that's what XP.
Said oh nice call I should have 

667
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,639
thought about. 
That I don't think I said a bad 

668
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:23,159
word about anything ever, like. 
He needs to start being mean. 

669
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,920
OK, maybe that's a. 
Market fit Here we can create an

670
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,239
AI. 
You said NFTS though, Wag me 

671
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,040
bobs on AI, they're all wag me 
and. 

672
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Shit, there is a bit of wag me 
very clearly there's a bit of 

673
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,360
this old space is wag me but 
we're. 

674
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040
In March, I don't want. 
This is what I keep saying like 

675
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,239
it's Wag me season. 
Wag Me season it's $1,000,000. 

676
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,280
Coin we're. 
All good at Myriad. 

677
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,239
I want to create like the Jerry 
Salts of of AI agents. 

678
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080
There's an open. 
Fucking yeah, yes, that's a 

679
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,560
good. 
That's a good analogy actually. 

680
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Right we. 
Need some real What we really 

681
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,720
need is like a bunch of AI 
researchers from like the 

682
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,760
broader AI community to come in 
and just be like, this stuff is 

683
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,320
absolute vaporware. 
And then it does another 10X, 

684
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Yeah, which it like they kind of
already have come in and said 

685
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,840
like this is the, this is the 
and somebody said like. 

686
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,600
To me on virtuals, I'm still in 
pain right now looking at this 

687
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,880
price, Yeah. 
You can't listen to anybody. 

688
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,080
That's the other thing you have 
to have. 

689
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Well, just. 
It's so early, right? 

690
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,680
So well, it's it's, it's and 
I've been saying, I know 

691
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,880
everybody heard me say this 
here, but we're going to have a 

692
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,160
little bit, you know, slow until
Trump gets in. 

693
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,560
But I firmly believe that if he 
on day 2 or day one signs a 

694
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,320
presidential order that 
basically says that we need that

695
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200
we're going to do part of the 
reserve in Bitcoin. 

696
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,400
I think it's just game over. 
I think everything that you know

697
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,280
and feel this is the moment that
we've all been waiting for in 

698
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,800
crypto. 
I've been in forever in crypto 

699
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600
and all the things that we've 
talked about that we wanted is 

700
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
happening right now. 
So like he just crossed 600? 

701
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,320
MIL yeah, so it's like, look, if
it doesn't happen right now, 

702
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,480
probably that means it's never 
going to happen in my opinion. 

703
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,880
So this is it. 
So it's like like between the 

704
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,920
four of us and everybody who's 
listening, which I don't know 

705
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,440
who it is. 
I sold my house and I'm renting 

706
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,120
and I took all my cash and I 
quadrupled down a crypto this. 

707
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Is. 
Something. 

708
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Yeah, yeah. 
Literally this week I just did 

709
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,600
it. 
Wow, fuck me. 

710
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Fuck. 
Yeah, I'm not. 

711
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,400
I'm not. 
I'm not. 

712
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,040
I'm not kidding around. 
This is I when I say that we are

713
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,800
going to see the largest you. 
Go less change. 

714
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,320
In wealth and power, in this 
country, in this world, ever in 

715
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,440
the history of the world, this 
is it. 

716
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,040
This is that moment. 2025 will 
be historical. 

717
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,000
I feel that way, but then it's 
just like, this is such a stupid

718
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,600
come. 
On KBM side of the Hamptons 

719
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,480
home. 
No, KBM hadn't known that much 

720
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,800
but. 
KBM has made some money 

721
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
recently. 
I don't even know this the guy 

722
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,600
is is is back over the last. 
He just annoys me, man. 

723
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,640
It's like that is, I don't know,
it's like God and the like the 

724
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,800
markets will not let a guy like 
Sailor win it just. 

725
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,280
They will you need. 
Also you got to stop fudding 

726
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,400
sailor because your FUD goes 
viral and doesn't help the 

727
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,160
cause. 
So if. 

728
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,360
Taylor wasn't in. 
I would sell my house. 

729
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,240
Too, Did you see Microsoft stock
was down again yesterday? 

730
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Yeah, it's gonna keep. 
It's down right now. 

731
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,040
It's. 
Fine, no, it's. 

732
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Not right. 
It's unchanged with Bitcoin up 

733
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,480
3%. 
It was down 8% yesterday. 

734
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Yeah, because discount, dude. 
He's gonna get punished, but I 

735
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,960
guess he doesn't own that much. 
OK, Like it's, it's like it 

736
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,240
seems like a lot, but really 
he's like a small fish. 

737
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:41,840
But that's the thing right with 
micro strategy is that it was up

738
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,440
a lot already versus Bitcoin 
because it was short squeezed. 

739
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,480
So, naturally, Bitcoin. 
No, of course it's going to. 

740
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,840
It's going to go down. 
It's going to probably be on par

741
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,400
or go to a discount at some 
point here. 

742
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,440
Listen no more thought on 
Michael Saylor's. 

743
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Thing I just don't like his 
vibe. 

744
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Yeah, but you don't forget it's 
not just his money. 

745
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,080
No, of course. 
So someone's. 

746
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,480
Asking go ahead, Marian, go 
ahead. 

747
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,840
It's it we need the micro 
sailors like we do, but we need 

748
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,240
more of the KBMS to have. 
No. 

749
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,080
We don't wealth, we do. 
We need the KBMS to have the 

750
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960
control, and that's what's about
to happen. 

751
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,440
KBMS about to go through the 
most the the best experience of 

752
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,760
his life. 
What was that tweet again? 

753
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,880
You mean what's that I am about 
to go? 

754
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Through the most abundant. 
Yeah, but I'm about to hit the 

755
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,600
most abundant phase of my life. 
Hey Icon, it's not he's long. 

756
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,640
I'm in. 
I'm up a lot. 

757
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,800
What's that hat you're wearing? 
They're making millions from the

758
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,520
basement closet. 
The. 

759
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Hat no comment. 
What's with the What's with the 

760
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,320
hat you're wearing? 
No comment. 

761
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,640
Someone just commented on it 
instead I need new one so I just

762
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,720
I just asked them. 
So guys, we should sell our 

763
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:53,960
popcam mooding for AI lots. 
I don't think this is. 

764
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640
I think the first stage of this 
honestly was a lot of people 

765
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,960
with left curve capital moving 
into this. 

766
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,080
What I actually think is that 
memes will like you saw 

767
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,840
yesterday Cathius, this Elon 
meme just wrapping went to 150 

768
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000
million in a day. 
Like memes will be memes. 

769
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,960
It's one of the best use cases 
for crypto. 

770
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,240
What I'm saying right now is a 
lot of the vapour Ware altcoins 

771
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,160
with no product market fit. 
I think you're about to see a 

772
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,800
massive, massive rotation of 
those bags into these alongside 

773
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680
some of the left curve crypto 
stuff. 

774
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,240
Like some of those people you 
can see some of the NFT people 

775
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,560
have all moved to this sort of 
stuff. 

776
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,520
A lot of the meme coin people 
have all moved to this sort of 

777
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
stuff. 
I'm just saying this isn't 1 to 

778
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,200
fade because I think that it's 
got that left curve meets normie

779
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,040
thing about it or at least 
degenning thing needle like. 

780
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,800
Curve too like. 
Last night you're. 

781
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Going to be smart. 
This is all curves. 

782
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,120
But you, you, you got to also 
like I think the first stop 

783
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,800
start and I'm speaking for 
myself here also because 

784
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,120
something played for me 
yesterday a lot with this a XBT 

785
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,840
thing. 
Obviously it's pumping my bag. 

786
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,920
So I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm switching
bullish here. 

787
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560
But it's, but you know, I think 
the first part of it is 

788
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,320
accepting it's not a LARP. 
Just like in NFTS, like everyone

789
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200
called some, I think you. 
Always have to think it's a lot 

790
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,160
like help people like A. 
Lot. 

791
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,360
Of people move back. 
From your mindset, that's how 

792
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,280
you make money. 
Like in 2021, let's be honest, 

793
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,600
2021, everyone called us Lars, 
NFTS, Larps, what we were 

794
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,680
launching Lars. 
People called probably DJs, a 

795
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,800
red guy LARP, rock radio LARP 
until it wasn't until it was so 

796
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,240
big that you couldn't almost 
like call it a LARP or some art.

797
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,160
I'm sure a lot of the bags that 
you're buying, many, I'm sure a 

798
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
lot of people called, but. 
It's a lot, but it's before 

799
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
that, right? 
Yeah, they when I was in ICOS, 

800
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000
they called it a LARP. 
When I was in EFI, they called 

801
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,920
it a LARP. 
Everything is just building. 

802
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,400
You see what we're doing is 
we're trying to take a 15 year 

803
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,040
period of, of growth and, and 
every, every time we have a 

804
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,280
cycle and something new is 
built, something new is built. 

805
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,000
And all we're doing is creating 
these foundations. 

806
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,480
Everything that we've had, Icos,
D fives, NFTS, tokenization, 

807
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,000
meme coins, all of it's going to
be in one ball of wax that 

808
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,680
essentially it's going to be 
part of this larger thing that 

809
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,040
we're all going to be using, 
right? 

810
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,440
These are just the pieces that 
we're building right now to get 

811
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,920
there. 
So the idea that everybody 

812
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,520
called it a LARP at the 
beginning, it is true, there's 

813
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,240
plenty of LARP. 
Plenty right? 

814
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,840
I guess when you call something 
a LARP. 

815
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,000
At first, correct, Because it's 
always everything you're going 

816
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,960
to create at the beginning is 
going to be a LARP. 

817
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,120
I mean, in 2000, the Internet 
was a giant LARP. 

818
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,840
It didn't matter, right? 
So it's like, and then better 

819
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,240
things were created. 
That's how it always works out. 

820
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,200
The question is, is that if you 
have the conviction and you 

821
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,880
could take out profit to put 
into different LARP's as they 

822
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,800
get built, essentially the 
foundation, it becomes 

823
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,440
strengthened and then you just 
have to have that conviction 

824
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,800
over long term to to be 
successful. 

825
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560
And that's all it is. 
It's like last night I went to a

826
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,480
club in New York City. 
You went to a club, went to a 

827
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,800
club. 
I was dancing, I was had my hood

828
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,680
on and everything. 
Yeah. 

829
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,480
You went to a club that's crazy.
I went to a club. 

830
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,320
I actually took pictures. 
I posted it and I was there and 

831
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,000
I walk outside and there's these
two young guys and they asked 

832
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
me. 
They said, hey, I saw you 

833
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,480
dancing in the club. 
You're really vibing. 

834
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,560
And I said, I said, I said, 
well, I got to go home and 

835
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,760
trade. 
They asked me where I was going.

836
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,800
And then they said, wait, do you
own? 

837
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,360
Do you own? 
What's it called? 

838
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,960
Styro Steve? 
And I was like, yeah. 

839
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Oh. 
It's so funny I don't have. 

840
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,000
These are two two random young 
people. 

841
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,520
Is that Marquis or something? 
I don't actually. 

842
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,240
I don't know where it was, who's
somewhere in the city. 

843
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,600
You would know what is that? 
What is that place? 

844
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,760
What I I wasn't watching. 
What is it I? 

845
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,320
Can't see that? 
No, it's. 

846
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Hand rails I don't know. 
Couldn't tell you. 

847
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,480
My, my, I guess my, my point was
these two random young guys are 

848
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,760
like, like, well, how many coins
you own? 

849
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,840
I was like, I own a decent 
amount. 

850
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,480
I was like, how many do you own?
Like, oh, we own a lot. 

851
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,320
We own 500,000 coins each. 
And it hit me. 

852
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,920
I was just like, they think 
that's a lot, right? 

853
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,840
We are so fucking early. 
I went home and bought Mars 

854
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,760
Cyrus Steven though, even though
it went down again, but like it 

855
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,120
it. 
The point is I'm trying to make 

856
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,680
is that this isn't not this 
isn't about aesthetics and 

857
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,680
anything that has market caps 
and all that bullshit. 

858
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,640
This is about medics community, 
right? 

859
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,040
This is about us changing the 
way that we incorporate 

860
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,040
ourselves as people. 
And I'm telling you all this is 

861
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,760
changing. 
People are starting to feel this

862
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600
like shift in this moment of 
like, I need to be a part of 

863
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,720
something. 
I need to feel this. 

864
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,040
I need to know who who are these
people who are also with me? 

865
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,560
And they were all excited when I
told them I owned way more Star 

866
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Wars Steven them and they're 
like, are you going to dump on 

867
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,200
me? 
But like that, that like 

868
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,200
connection. 
I'm telling you that's that's 

869
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,160
what's just starting. 
And I think AI is just going to 

870
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,400
make that even crazier. 
I mean, think about what's going

871
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,200
on with the AI bot. 
AI bot puts a coin out and 

872
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,240
everybody's like, well that must
be a great coin It's a fucking 

873
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,680
AI and now everybody thinks the 
AI is smarter than us and that's

874
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,840
just that's just the beginning 
of. 

875
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,880
It and all the VC actual Larps 
are about to just like love that

876
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,960
and. 
They're loving it. 

877
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,760
Like you had that guy Jazz who 
came on our show two weeks ago 

878
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,120
and he was like, I literally 
speak. 

879
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,520
He's actually. 
No, no. 

880
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,960
But he's like, I speak to liquid
funds who all they are doing is 

881
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,240
calling him and being like, hey,
like what? 

882
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,200
What, which of these infra 
things can I buy? 

883
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,400
Which? 
You had a great tweet that's. 

884
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,080
What I'm saying they. 
Can you had a really good tweet 

885
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,320
about this? 
He, he actually had a really 

886
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,160
good tweet about this. 
That also helped me see a little

887
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,040
more clear as this one. 
Guys, agents are going to be #1 

888
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,280
users of blockchain. 
It's not humans. 

889
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,760
It's obvious once you see it. 
We built the entire new 

890
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,320
financial system from from 
scratch, which runs on the open 

891
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,920
source core and software rails. 
Who do you think is best way to 

892
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,480
capitalize on that? 
He's right. 

893
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,720
I I'm going to make a prediction
here. 

894
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:37,720
Ready. 
Let's go. 

895
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:39,160
This is. 
Spano, you ready for this? 

896
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,480
I. 
Believe. 

897
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:46,200
I believe that most of the art 
that I've bought, OK, I will not

898
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,880
be selling to a human being. 
I believe most of the art that I

899
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,200
bought, the best art I will be 
selling to AI bots. 

900
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640
OK. 
So this is oh wow, that's that 

901
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,320
is going to be a wild exit. 
Like they all buy your bags. 

902
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,960
If why you? 
Selling small? 

903
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,160
Yeah. 
OK, he might be right. 

904
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Like he actually might be right.
Yeah, I mean, what's with that 

905
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,280
bottom guy hear? 
Me out snow fro got me down this

906
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040
rabbit hole. 
You don't know who's behind the 

907
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,760
bottle. 
It may be. 

908
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Ben Snowfro, you should pull up 
the tweet. 

909
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,000
He wrote a tweet about a 
Lamborghini, OK. 

910
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,600
And basically what he was saying
was that AI agents, when they 

911
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120
make a lot of money, are not 
going to want to buy a Lambo. 

912
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,000
They can't drive a Lambo, but 
it's going to be in their nature

913
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,120
to want to buy things. 
They're not just going to make 

914
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,720
money and do nothing. 
So what? 

915
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,280
Is the first thing they're going
to buy, they're going to buy 

916
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,240
digital. 
They're. 

917
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Going to buy our bags. 
They're. 

918
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,280
Going to buy all our bags. 
Listen, wait, think about this 

919
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:46,880
guys. 
We. 

920
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Yeah. 
Tweeting that out. 

921
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,680
Wait. 
We created. 

922
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,960
I'm going to renew that crazy 
shit here. 

923
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,880
God created humans. 
Humans created AI agents. 

924
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,000
AI agents bought our bags. 
Okay, okay. 

925
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,000
We are essentially playing God. 
We created a new being. 

926
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,280
Does that mean that we are 
agents of that was created by an

927
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,640
AI? 
Yeah. 

928
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,640
Of course, actually it did. 
We are trips an AI agent 

929
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,920
ourselves that created other AI 
agents to buy our bags now and 

930
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,280
and we couldn't sell our bags 
some more humans. 

931
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,160
I tweeted it. 
The end game was just to sell 

932
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,920
the bags. 
And CMF will have AI agents 

933
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120
until they start to use their 
wealth to buy our fees. 

934
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,680
The AI agents, the buyer bags. 
Now the problem is, is the AI 

935
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,920
agents are going to become 
sentient and then they're going 

936
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,960
to they they might realize like,
we don't even need these, you 

937
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,040
know, meat puppets anymore, 
right? 

938
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,480
So, so it's going to be it's 
going to be a whole issue. 

939
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,400
And then we're going to have to 
like fight with them. 

940
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,840
But those who are still humans, 
OK, hear me out. 

941
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,040
Who owned Bitcoin and own 
digital art are the only humans 

942
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520
that could actually have 
conversations with the AI 

943
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,640
agents, right? 
Because we're the only ones 

944
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,280
they'll understand. 
We're not going to be just 

945
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,680
talking to my mother-in-law 
because she has no clue what the

946
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,080
fuck is going on. 
But I own Bitcoin and I'm 

947
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,200
speaking the same ones and zeros
to them, so I'm going to be the 

948
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,200
meat puppet that they like. 
Does that mean that we are AI 

949
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,480
agents ourselves? 
There's a very good chance. 

950
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,000
So I actually think I agree with
this. 

951
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,680
I this is part of the also why I
also think that some of these 

952
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,120
means can be better. 
Like they also will want to buy 

953
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,800
fartcoin like if you know this, 
but the reason why they all like

954
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,160
like each other because they 
also like their own shit. 

955
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:27,920
Like a lot have been trained on 
the on the I think this is 

956
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,600
actually a really, really good 
point. 

957
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,720
There is that like if these 
people start to have more and 

958
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,280
more wealth and you tell them to
invest for you, it also this is 

959
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,360
just to put it, we've already 
seen this. 

960
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,160
So if you there's one, there's 
1A a agent or swarm called 

961
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Vader. 
I don't think you guys are aware

962
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,960
of this one, Vader. 
Yeah, right. 

963
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
And they have a small cap and 
they have a medium cap index, 

964
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,200
but they all they do is invest 
in other AI agents. 

965
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,600
But AI is investing in other AI,
right? 

966
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,120
They're investing in other 
crypto assets. 

967
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,360
They're not just going to invest
in our our stuff. 

968
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,120
So they're probably going to end
up buying our AI bags from us. 

969
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,400
As well, we all we did was 
create more of us. 

970
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,880
We realized we're like, wait, we
had too much of a circle jerk 

971
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,640
going on. 
So let's create an AI agents so 

972
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,000
we could have more AI agents 
that just buy our bags and 

973
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,920
that's what's going to happen. 
We we, we are God. 

974
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,480
We have created. 
But no, but no. 

975
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,720
But it's funny what you're 
saying, but it's not funny in 

976
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,640
the way that it's I've. 
Been like my God being dead 

977
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,640
serious here. 
You just explained something in 

978
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,320
a way that I'm hoping the 500 
plus people listening live in 

979
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,240
like 2000 on video are 
understanding. 

980
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:37,480
Like this makes perfect sense to
me. 

981
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Something just, it makes a lot 
of sense to me what you're 

982
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
saying right now, Benny. 
It's perfect sense, but we're 

983
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,600
just, we are at the the mega lap
at this stage, you know? 

984
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,320
What I mean, you're like, right,
Right. 

985
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,840
You're like. 
Which I love. 

986
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,880
But like, yeah, even starts 
getting into photography NFTS 

987
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,040
and selling open editions, yes. 
And all. 

988
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,040
Users Oh I love this so much. 
Music NFTS No no. 

989
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,160
Why wait for why he's selling it
all? 

990
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,600
They're going to be selling it 
to all the other AI agents. 

991
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,240
Yeah, buy it. 
We're completely out now. 

992
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,640
We're completely out. 
We just moonwalk out of this 

993
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,120
situation, you know? 
Like, I can't. 

994
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,480
I have a new goal in life. 
OK, I told Sam Spratt this. 

995
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,800
I want to. 
I want to take all 50 skulls and

996
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,800
I want to somehow create. 
I want to find a way to convince

997
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,360
50 AI agents to buy every single
skull. 

998
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200
I want the whole council just to
be an 850 different AI agents 

999
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,360
that are that Sam has to work 
with instead of humans. 

1000
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,600
This is my goal. 
I want to be able to find a way 

1001
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,280
to convince AI. 
I want to have like 

1002
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,080
conversations with an AI agent 
and I want to convince it to buy

1003
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,920
art. 
You should make one, dude. 

1004
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,920
You should make the AI. 
I'm so serious about this. 

1005
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,880
But you should. 
You should make the AIR 

1006
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,760
tastemaker agent. 
Yeah, and I want and then I want

1007
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,240
and I want AIH. 
That's what AIXBT is, right? 

1008
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,800
Yeah. 
It's just that for coins you 

1009
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,080
should make this for AIR. 
So I. 

1010
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:01,920
I got, I don't I, I, I should 
because really I'm telling and 

1011
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,760
then I want the AI agents to 
fight with each other. 

1012
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,360
I want to be like, yo, I'm 
getting excellent. 

1013
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,920
Yeah, make a few of them. 
Make one off. 

1014
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,920
You think about it like this, 
right? 

1015
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,680
The first AI agent that tells 
Rafiq that his stuff isn't good.

1016
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,840
I mean, I mean come. 
On make the maybe make the Jerry

1017
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,200
Saltz AI, what would you call 
that? 

1018
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,760
No Jerry Saltz AI just the same 
as all these other. 

1019
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Ones I probably, we probably I 
wish I had an AII want to talk 

1020
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,800
to maybe Curtin. 
I want to take all of Jerry 

1021
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,920
Saltz's tweets and just throw 
them in in a bot and see if we 

1022
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,360
could just create one. 
You can do that. 

1023
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,480
They already. 
That's what they did with. 

1024
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,320
They could make that today. 
Dude, you should do it. 

1025
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,480
It'll. 
Take less than an hour to make a

1026
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,760
simple one like that on 1/2 or a
call. 

1027
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,480
I know we're we're, we're 
talking about, we're talking 

1028
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,040
about creating an agent that's 
gonna adopt myriad and then just

1029
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,520
tweet out predictions and just 
like his actual thoughts on like

1030
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,640
the analysis on what could come.
So like we're like, that's how 

1031
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,000
I'm thinking about it. 
Like about the AI agent stuff. 

1032
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,520
What would you use, by the way, 
if you were? 

1033
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
If you're interested in actually
creating your own agent, would 

1034
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,000
you use virtual's ELISA like 
mind like? 

1035
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,440
What do you start? 
Things here, it's like for basic

1036
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,640
people who have no idea what 
they're doing, Hat protocol is 

1037
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,320
probably top. 
Hat's probably the easiest, but 

1038
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,640
like. 
This guy's big in top hat. 

1039
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,600
This guy is big in top hat. 
This guy's not. 

1040
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Tried I I created it. 
I wanted to try to use these 

1041
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640
things if I'm. 
Going to you may want them. 

1042
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,960
Elisa is what we have used. 
Is he going to have, is he going

1043
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,360
to have its own like? 
Elisa is what we've used for 

1044
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,600
Epic. 
We made a Telegram one for Epic 

1045
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,760
and it was really easy, like 
relatively easy for for 

1046
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,480
developers to do. 
It took a very short amount of 

1047
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,480
time made. 
It lighter. 

1048
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,240
Yeah, Now this is fascinating. 
What do we? 

1049
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:46,480
What do we think? 
Then he just got me to I offered

1050
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,520
him some money yesterday. 
I just wired it back in. 

1051
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Here we go. 
Here we go. 

1052
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,640
Not even kidding. 
The guy sold his house on back. 

1053
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,440
Go all in on some random AI 
ages. 

1054
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,480
Literally what's? 
Going to. 

1055
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,360
Happen. 
I'm going to spend it in 5 

1056
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,640
minutes. 
Like it's not financial advice, 

1057
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
but I'm just saying, I mean, 
waiting for this moment. 

1058
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,760
I mean, guys, think about this, 
OK, Think about this. 

1059
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,600
The sitting president of the 
United States of America, the 

1060
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,880
sitting president has his own 
coin and was at the same time I 

1061
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,200
was buying wrecked. 
He was trying to buy rec coin. 

1062
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Thanks. 
OK. 

1063
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,640
He was trying to buy a meme coin
that is spelled REKT now, which 

1064
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,600
I'm a huge fan of. 
Obviously everybody knows that. 

1065
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,360
But like the sitting president 
of the United States of America 

1066
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,360
is doing that. 
Do you think, right, that this 

1067
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,560
man in power wants to make $20 
million? 

1068
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,120
He doesn't care about insider 
trading on stocks. 

1069
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,280
He wants to make $200 billion. 
He wants to create a legacy for 

1070
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,360
his kids. 
He wants them to be president of

1071
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,880
the United States. 
He wants to make a dynasty. 

1072
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,480
And the other way to do that is 
by making more money. 

1073
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,960
And I'm telling you, you the 
easiest way to do this is by 

1074
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,000
creating a crypto bull market 
where he makes billions of 

1075
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,680
dollars. 
That's what he's setting this up

1076
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,720
for. 
To not be bullish now is the 

1077
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,760
worst. 
It, it doesn't even make sense 

1078
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,840
to me. 
I mean, this guy clearly is not 

1079
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,000
going to go in and be like, hey,
I want to know if I get and 

1080
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,400
started trading like the rest of
them. 

1081
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,280
That's what do you do? 
You're making peanuts. 

1082
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,960
What's 10 million? 
Pelosi made $22 million. 

1083
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,200
That's nothing nonsense, 220 
billion. 

1084
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,000
This is what's going to happen. 
And that's what's that Donald. 

1085
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,560
Donald Trump doesn't want to 
make peanuts. 

1086
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,400
He wants to make it all. 
And he's going to do everything,

1087
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,280
including your taxes and how all
this is going to work. 

1088
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,400
There's no way he's going to do 
anything that hurts him. 

1089
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,520
All he's going to do is help 
himself get on board. 

1090
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,240
Get off I I do think it's This 
is why I don't think we're 

1091
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:42,760
anywhere close to the the cycle 
top. 

1092
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,560
I do think we're like, as KBM 
says, when stuff gets bad, 

1093
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,280
people will really freak out of 
a MicroStrategy at the top, But 

1094
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,000
I don't think he can't get 
liquidated yet. 

1095
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,520
So there's no way that this is 
the top. 

1096
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,000
It's not going to happen yet. 
KBM do me a promise. 

1097
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,840
New resolution, New Year's 
resolution. 

1098
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,640
Can you spend one week without 
fighting Sailor? 

1099
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,400
That just says like, yeah. 
No, no, no, actually. 

1100
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,960
Not funny. 
Don't sailor loan AII think is a

1101
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,680
good trade actually. 
That's KBM. 

1102
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,480
You know what you should do 
quick for you if you're a new 

1103
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,000
kid puts make another wallet and
just start putting stuff in that

1104
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,520
wallet for your kids. 
I've done that from the 

1105
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,880
beginning and I still have those
wallets. 

1106
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Don't touch them. 
I try not to like gamble with 

1107
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,640
them and just keep putting money
into them because if you want to

1108
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,240
be a bear that's fine but your 
child will want. 

1109
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,800
To be your child cannot be a 
bear. 

1110
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,840
Hey, your child can't be. 
By the way, I mean it's damaged.

1111
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Go Bear. 
I just thought. 

1112
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,720
I onboarded more money to buy 
more AI. 

1113
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,480
We need you to send me your. 
I'm making, I'm making your kid 

1114
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,720
like a custom like bull market 
bull. 

1115
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,280
Right. 
This stuff is still going zero 

1116
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,800
boat is 700 million just now. 
You're kidding. 

1117
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Me up at 4:00. 100 right now XBT
is about to hit 650I. 

1118
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,400
Have a question I mean, yeah, 
this show, like I'm getting 

1119
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,920
messages from a bunch of really 
smart people telling me that 

1120
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,120
this show is really fucking good
right now and we're still going 

1121
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,040
someone's saying hedge funds are
going to buy not venture funds. 

1122
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,040
I agree. 
Someone's bending his cloth is 

1123
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,360
so funny. 
Great show like people love the 

1124
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,400
show like we are we are single 
handily we we we pump the market

1125
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,800
cap of the icons by a billion 
dollars on the show you. 

1126
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Know there. 
Will be another coin coming down

1127
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,840
the pipe sometime soon I'm sure.
Is there like well? 

1128
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,280
Doesn't. 
Mean, I mean, I don't fucking 

1129
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,000
know, but like, well, the answer
is yes. 

1130
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,040
It's every day. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1131
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,880
NFT collections, right? 
We said NFT 2020. 

1132
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,840
There will be a moon birds which
goes to 30 and continues to go 

1133
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,040
right. 
I know like you need to hold 

1134
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,000
liquidity into like one of these
spots. 

1135
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Who's going to be a is Kevin 
Rose? 

1136
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,840
They're probably already here 
like a lot of these founders I 

1137
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,520
think will also be exposed at 
higher marketplace. 

1138
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,320
I'm just saying you can't. 
You can't shut yourself off to 

1139
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,840
this now like it's. 
Just two big things. 

1140
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,040
I think what we'll find out is 
some of the AI agents, Mando 

1141
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,320
were actually run by humans and 
they didn't. 

1142
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,880
They didn't. 
Yeah, probably. 

1143
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,320
It's so fucking. 
Lazy like to do that. 

1144
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,400
LARP is just beyond ridiculous 
like. 

1145
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,000
If you. 
And I just think there's some 

1146
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,240
bad, and I think there's going 
to be some bad AI agents, like 

1147
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,520
at some. 
Yeah, that's what. 

1148
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,160
There are some bad ones, yeah. 
This is what See how? 

1149
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,160
The source of this like wine, 
it's like, well, that that wine 

1150
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,640
doesn't taste great, but this 
and this, like the AI agent, 

1151
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,200
just doesn't feel good. 
Yeah, that's how you got to be a

1152
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,440
tastemaker and you could figure 
out which ones are good. 

1153
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,400
I said AI XPT from the start. 
OK, So what are you? 

1154
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,840
So the the the theme, this is 
the other. 1. 

1155
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,000
This is last row of the year. 
We're 2025. 

1156
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,560
What is the call for 2025 like 
what is going to be, let's say 

1157
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,480
top three? 
I want to hear your top three. 

1158
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,560
I think this is what I think is 
one of the biggest errors 

1159
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:37,600
because I actually think that 
this space it maybe even more 

1160
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,600
than some of the other spaces. 
The attrition and the ability to

1161
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,240
pay attention to it is even 
higher than some of the other 

1162
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,560
spaces because the rate of 
change and like ability to do 

1163
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,320
things is just exponential. 
Like they, they can do so many 

1164
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,560
new things all the time. 
So I think the idea of having 

1165
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,160
something that you want to own 
for a year or like, you know, 

1166
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,320
set and forget, I actually think
it's is, is actually, I mean, 

1167
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,320
I've seen that. 
I've, I've done that with the, 

1168
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,880
with the meme coins. 
One of them's worked out, one of

1169
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,040
them hasn't. 
And what's really moved is a lot

1170
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,520
of these other the Asian coins I
didn't think would be so big, 

1171
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,120
but like I bought them and 
they've, they've flipped my set 

1172
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,040
and forget bag. 
So what that tells me is this 

1173
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,760
isn't a set and forget space. 
Like there is no crypto punks. 

1174
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,080
There is no, there is no, I 
don't know what the equivalent 

1175
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,240
would be for some of the other. 
Like there's no Pepe. 

1176
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,040
There is. 
It's not as simple as set and 

1177
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,360
forget. 
What it is is that there's a ton

1178
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,040
of different things that are 
going to do cool stuff and you 

1179
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,760
just have to pay attention to it
and, you know, and. 

1180
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,640
Forget it's like for me said and
forget it's like I mean I said 

1181
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,640
forget far coin like a 7 figure 
position since weeks like I 

1182
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,000
don't even look at the fucking 
prize. 

1183
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,240
Like you, at the same time that 
position has kind of gone 

1184
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,560
sideways in the same way that 
like some of this stuff. 

1185
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,800
So what I actually think and 
what I didn't think at the 

1186
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,400
start, but now like has become 
very apparent for how My 

1187
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,200
Portfolio has actually become is
if you just buy a little bit of 

1188
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,960
like not don't go all in, just 
buy like 10% of this, 10% of 

1189
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,400
that, 10% of that at this early 
stage. 

1190
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,880
Like some of this stuff has just
kept going. 

1191
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,120
Like it's just kept going. 
Like I don't see a world where, 

1192
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,360
for example, right now AIXBT 
feels like it's going to go to a

1193
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,840
billion. 
I don't see a world where that 

1194
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,080
doesn't happen. 
Like what happens tomorrow, that

1195
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,000
doesn't happen. 
But I don't know if I want to be

1196
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,280
like all all in and the same 
time, like I think fart coin 

1197
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,400
could could double. 
I think goat can go back to a 

1198
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,800
billion here, but just own a bit
of everything and and it's 

1199
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,680
seemingly it's been pretty good.
And then you're not also Thai 

1200
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,480
being like this, Is it forever, 
I think. 

1201
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,800
Yeah, to find that IT 
infrastructure play too, that 

1202
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,920
we're like we're actually using 
it too or like normal people are

1203
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,720
using it. 
Once you get that, I mean that 

1204
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,800
that might be a set and forget. 
Well. 

1205
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,680
Some people would argue that 
like something like Griffane has

1206
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,120
like a really good interface, 
but then Eliza's probably got 

1207
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,280
the best operating system and 
all this sort of stuff. 

1208
00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:00,040
So I think what the best thing 
is to do is buy those top coins 

1209
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,360
on bad days. 
That's what I think is probably 

1210
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,440
the best way to do it rather 
than like, if you're like 

1211
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,800
sitting there going, Oh my God, 
it's going, all these charts are

1212
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,200
going vertical right now You 
have. 

1213
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,320
To have a mix, right, So you 
have to have your set and forget

1214
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,800
because things that are going 
sideways like SV acts and refane

1215
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,800
and far coin and others, right, 
or Liza, they're going sideways 

1216
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,080
because what what's happening is
like you're taking your chances 

1217
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,680
on all the other coins, right. 
But essentially, in my opinion 

1218
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,520
and being in this market long 
enough is is that I still think 

1219
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,960
conviction is the is the is the 
best thing you could have, 

1220
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,320
right. 
So like I agree with Mando, it's

1221
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,560
like taking your risks on buying
10% here, 10% you hit the one 

1222
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,880
that you would get and it goes 
well, you have to be able. 

1223
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,280
To winners here. 
Right. 

1224
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,520
You have to be able to like find
those winners and then hold. 

1225
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,000
Right. 
I'm holding my forecourt to $10 

1226
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,360
billion and then I'm buying. 
Yeah. 

1227
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,960
Because because this idea like 
I, I know this is, I'll say 

1228
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,360
something else. 
I know people are going to say 

1229
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,120
I'm crazy. 
I I think the idea of a market 

1230
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560
cap actually doesn't mean 
anything anymore, right? 

1231
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,360
I think it's actually an index 
to how popular the coin is. 

1232
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,080
The idea of it has anything to 
do financially and things are 

1233
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,040
bullshit, to be honest with you,
except for Bitcoin, maybe when 

1234
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,520
it passes gold. 
I think all this other, I think 

1235
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,840
the idea that it's like, oh, it 
might go to a billion. 

1236
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,840
Well, it might go to fucking ten
billion, right, exactly. 

1237
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,040
It's it's like, oh, maybe it'll 
go to 500 million. 

1238
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Well, maybe you go to 500 
billion. 

1239
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,400
I have no clue where anything is
going and nobody does. 

1240
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,640
So it's like sit there and go 
like, well, I'm going to. 

1241
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,680
Accurately decide on charts how 
this is all going to work. 

1242
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,080
You know, I'd say this to Bob 
Lucas all the time because Bob 

1243
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,240
is like a chart maven. 
I'm just like, dude, fuck that. 

1244
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,560
Go with your balls and just hold
things right and just trade. 

1245
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,080
Because at this point, if the 
market gets stupid right, we 

1246
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,640
have no clue where things are 
going to go. 

1247
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,120
So you should have your 
conviction plays and the plays 

1248
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,160
that you take your chances on. 
And that's that's the best way 

1249
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,440
to do it. 
It's actually pretty crazy. 

1250
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,280
I also, what I also think is we 
also, because we're all viewing 

1251
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,040
this from the the meme coin 
lens, we all think that if it 

1252
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,960
goes to one to two billion like 
it, it's kind of done. 

1253
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,320
You're right and. 
Then not meme coins like Tia. 

1254
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,400
Tia went to 20 billion and made 
$4.00 of revenue a day. 

1255
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,440
Yeah, $4.00 I. 
Don't know. 

1256
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,520
It's still. 
It's still. 

1257
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,360
That's 2X the current AI Asian 
market cap you we wouldn't here 

1258
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,960
go like. 
So is an AI going to make it to 

1259
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,280
top 20 this cycle guys? 
Not even a question. 

1260
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,000
Not even a question for I'll 
even say it like this, the top 

1261
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,160
10 coins and I, I challenge 
everybody's viewer. 

1262
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,920
Is still top 20 coins. 
Yeah, but that's now. 

1263
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,800
Go back Bitcoin Cash. 
Go back. 

1264
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,480
Go back every year. 
Get talking. 

1265
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,800
What the fuck is? 
That yeah. 

1266
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,880
But listen, go back every year 
for the last, every year. 

1267
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,320
If you go back twice a year, if 
you go back January and July and

1268
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,400
look at the top 20 coins for the
last 15 years, you're, you're 

1269
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,280
not going to recognize most of 
the coins that you see in the 

1270
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,800
top 20s a lot of times. 
And when you see them, right, 

1271
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,160
right. 
I promise you back in like 12 

1272
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,400
years ago when let's say, I'll 
give you a perfect example, 

1273
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,440
Stratus was a top 20 coin. 
Does any, I mean, maybe KBM 

1274
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,480
knows what Stratus is, but like 
at that time, everybody thought 

1275
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,320
Stratus was like the fucking 
best coin. 

1276
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,520
No matter what, it's never going
out of the top 20. 

1277
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,920
Oh my God, nobody knows what 
Stratus is right now. 

1278
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,440
No. 
No, no, that's a different coin.

1279
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,600
But like, but like it. 
My point is that but the top, 

1280
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,760
the top 10 coins will switch. 
They're good. 

1281
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,000
You're going to have meme coins 
and you're going to have AI 

1282
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:27,520
coins up. 
There. 

1283
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,920
Yeah, look at this. 
And, and, and we're just getting

1284
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,240
started with that it, it's just 
the beginning. 

1285
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,480
So the fact that Pepe is at $3 
billion, you're like, I'm not 

1286
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,800
buying because it's 3 billion 
and then it goes to 20 billion. 

1287
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,480
You're you missed out in A56X 
for no reason I think Pepe. 

1288
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,400
Is going to $69 billion. 
Market caps aren't real anymore.

1289
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,200
I think I've come to that 
realization too. 

1290
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,360
It's it's completely uncapped. 
The goal posts have moved. 

1291
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,520
I mean, like just in general 
markets too. 

1292
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,920
Nvidia's like almost 4 trillion.
It's like, OK, it's just 

1293
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,440
nonsense. 
It's just whatever. 

1294
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,160
Hard caps a bullshit constraint 
doesn't matter. 

1295
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,320
I know people don't want to hear
it, but it's the. 

1296
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,320
Truth. 
They just don't. 

1297
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,920
Fuck it, all they are is an 
index for popularity and if it 

1298
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,800
if it's popular then buy it. 
Yeah, if it's popular, keep 

1299
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,280
shipping and and the AI sense 
stays in the news cycle, there's

1300
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,240
really no reason to. 
Yeah, I mean, crypto's total 

1301
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,480
market cap is just a $3.25 
trillion, guys. 

1302
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,720
That you that's so. 
It's all right, I got to run 

1303
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,000
guys, but it's fun. 
KKBM, that's less than NVIDIA, 

1304
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,840
which is actually wild. 
All right, look, wow, I didn't 

1305
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,160
even realize the time this has 
been. 

1306
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,280
This is really good show. 
I mean, I think it's very 

1307
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:38,720
telling that we spent an hour, 
an entire hour of the last show 

1308
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,320
of the year talking about one 
topic like this is very telling 

1309
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,680
to me, honest, because I do 
consider you out. 

1310
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,600
Go ahead. 
Well, I think it's also also 

1311
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,480
because I'm trying to convince a
bunch of people who 

1312
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,560
traditionally listen to this 
show for memes and NFTS that 

1313
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,960
this is not, this is not 
attacking your bags. 

1314
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,360
This is like altcoins. 
Actually, I think of the main 

1315
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,160
lap here, and you should pay 
attention to this. 

1316
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,680
Like this is now going to be 
another left curve meets right 

1317
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,600
curve thing that like I think a 
lot of people in our space 

1318
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,240
traditionally are just like fuck
that. 

1319
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,000
Don't make a mistake in not 
making money, OK? 

1320
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,800
Yeah. 
It's just a good line. 

1321
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,280
That's just a good line. 
Go and just do it. 

1322
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,600
It it it stopped overthinking 
things. 

1323
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,920
It's a bull market. 
Nothing makes sense in a bull 

1324
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,240
market, right? 
If we are just beginning, just 

1325
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,360
go and make money. 
Stop trying to like figure 

1326
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,720
things out chopped sight to to 
to do charts. 

1327
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:40,200
Stop trying to sit there and go.
Go with your gut and your 

1328
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,560
feeling of what's popular, 
because this is an attention 

1329
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,720
economy across the board and 
will be for the next 50 years. 

1330
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,520
And just the beginning of that. 
Just just go with that because 

1331
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,200
in the end, in the end, you're 
going to pick the ones you like.

1332
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,000
You like epic duck because it's 
fucking, you know, it's funny. 

1333
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,000
Then just go with it and and 
don't think about where you're 

1334
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,320
going to where you can make your
most money. 

1335
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,800
Just try to make money and I and
then you'll make the most money 

1336
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,520
doing that in my opinion. 
But you're nuts on the table. 

1337
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,000
Nuts on the table exactly. 
I think people that's that's a 

1338
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,080
good point. 
Like, yeah, out. 

1339
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,160
Of your house right now. 
If you own a house, I want you 

1340
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,960
to sell. 
It do not sell your house that. 

1341
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,560
Was a big house. 
Selling. 

1342
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,480
I love how you came on here and 
said you sold your house to buy 

1343
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,960
pickle. 
You're telling don't sell your 

1344
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,120
house, He told me. 
Like. 

1345
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,560
Buddy called me like a like a 
couple months ago. 

1346
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,640
Tell me like, listen brother, 
like I'm really all in. 

1347
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,760
I'm putting my house in the 
market. 

1348
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,800
Don't tell anyone. 
Like I didn't know you were like

1349
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,120
you actually did it. 
Like, I knew you were going to 

1350
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,320
do it because you told. 
Me, I, I, I truly believe I've 

1351
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,680
been in this market for a long 
time, very long, like over 13 

1352
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,320
years now. 
And at this point it's like, if 

1353
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,600
this is not it, this is this is 
it. 

1354
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,240
Like this is that moment in 
time. 

1355
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,320
So it's like you just sometimes 
you have to have these, you 

1356
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,000
know, in life, the window opens 
up like a few for you like to 

1357
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,440
have opportunities maybe 3-4 
times in your life. 

1358
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,000
I think this is one of those 
opportunities for all of us. 

1359
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,480
We were so early, we built so 
early. 

1360
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,360
Now we're seeing the fruits of 
early. 

1361
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,240
We're about to see what's going 
to change and, and to me, it's 

1362
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,040
like you just got to go all in. 
Like I, I don't know else to 

1363
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,120
say. 
Like I mean, obviously I'm out 

1364
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,200
of my mind, but. 
I mean, I am all in. 

1365
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,000
I, I mean, I don't own a house, 
I don't own a car. 

1366
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,840
I don't own any of the stuff 
you're seeing here but the art 

1367
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,400
or the shoes behind me. 
Yes, and by wait, by art, just 

1368
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,760
bring me to profits. 
Yeah, no do we're not falling 

1369
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,800
for the scam this cycle. 
No, we're not. 

1370
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,680
But I'm just saying I'm, I mean,
what was that? 

1371
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,440
Raoul Pal had a good tweet about
this yesterday. 

1372
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,360
I know obviously he caught some 
slack as usual because the art 

1373
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,920
crowd is just like I thought 
every time someone makes a cool 

1374
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,360
post about art Art NFTS, the art
crowd makes you don't want to be

1375
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,320
part of it, but it's OK and I. 
Didn't understand, honestly. 

1376
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,280
I want to be very honest just 
because we're on the topic. 

1377
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,600
I actually thought he was being 
very positive about. 

1378
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,320
He was very, very positive, he 
said, and he and he was saying, 

1379
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,240
Hey, if you can't afford like 
the shit I'm affording, like X 

1380
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,280
copies and Sam Spratt stuff, 
hey, go see right guy, go buy 

1381
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,280
and. 
He I don't think he's wrong. 

1382
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,960
Like by the way, there's there's
a lot of art that's very if you 

1383
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,320
don't want to buy PFP from 
artists that are selling it 

1384
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,120
point 5.212 that are that are 
amazing. 

1385
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,880
I have an interesting take on 
all this stuff as well. 

1386
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,360
Like I also think that just 
taking a step back just from 

1387
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:22,600
crypto and AI, like AI, the age 
of AI doing everything for us is

1388
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,560
about to like happen. 
They're going to start creating 

1389
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,360
a lot of products. 
They're going to start 

1390
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,480
interacting with 3D printers. 
Yeah, we'll be human with robots

1391
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,800
that I actually think there's 
going to be. 

1392
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,080
And then maybe it's not right 
now, but maybe in 5-10 years, 

1393
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,680
there's going to be this kind of
counter AI culture, which is 

1394
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,760
like we only like human crafted 
things, like particularly things

1395
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:49,280
of intense beauty or skill to 
craft them. 

1396
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,520
And I've been thinking quite a 
lot about that. 

1397
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,040
Like, does this, will this mean 
that in 10 years the idea of 

1398
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:02,400
like an exquisite Swiss watch, 
like really the top end is seen 

1399
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,400
as just like, wow, like no one 
really does that anymore. 

1400
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,800
Same with like a lot of these 
physical collectibles like wine 

1401
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,000
or art or this sort of stuff, 
there's going to be that's 

1402
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,760
counter conscious to to really 
invest in human made things. 

1403
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,600
And I also think that that that 
does extend to digital art, like

1404
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:23,040
the concept of digitally like 
human made, but still digital 

1405
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,920
art. 
I think it's quite an 

1406
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,120
interesting well. 
I agree 100%. 

1407
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,080
I think that what's going to 
happen is in all seriousness, 

1408
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,760
going back to this crazy thing, 
but because AIS are going to be 

1409
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,520
so prevalent and, and robotics 
and things that we're going to 

1410
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,960
rely on, you know, essentially 
this idea of, you know, we, we 

1411
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,479
become, you know, you know, like
humans and robots are living 

1412
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,240
together or we need, we can't 
live without them, essentially, 

1413
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,319
right? 
The what was it 2060 that year? 

1414
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:59,920
To me, we're going to want to 
feel human still, right? 

1415
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,439
And the only way that we're 
going to need to want to feel 

1416
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,080
human is by buying human things.
It's not going to be like, hey, 

1417
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,160
I don't I don't want to, you 
know, it's going to be 

1418
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,120
interesting. 
Maybe it'll be a time when the 

1419
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,800
humans are going to rise up and 
like refuse to buy stuff from 

1420
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,920
robots, right, or refuse to buy 
stuff from AI. 

1421
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,880
But there's going to be this 
feeling of humanity that we have

1422
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,359
that a is don't have yet of 
wanting to feel human. 

1423
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:27,319
And I think things like art and 
watches and, and and things that

1424
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:30,479
have physical natures to them 
are going to be super important 

1425
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,600
to us. 
So I think like art in two ways 

1426
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,040
is going to be interesting. 
I think people who create 

1427
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,760
physical art are still going to 
be this these important artists 

1428
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,279
in the world. 
It's like kind of like, you 

1429
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,240
know, my friend was saying he 
was to Tokyo and you go walk 

1430
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,439
down and start to Japan and he 
still sees these these 

1431
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,600
swordsmiths that have been 
making physical swords for like 

1432
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,600
thousands of years, right? 
Or hundreds of years, whatever 

1433
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,840
it is and how people still want 
to go and buy a sword, right? 

1434
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,160
Because it's like this, this 
craftsmanship that this this 

1435
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,920
human being created for for 
years to create one sword. 

1436
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,400
And I think it's going to be a 
similar thing with art, but same

1437
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,880
thing with digital art, where I 
think the digital artists who 

1438
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,800
actually created on their own or
use the tools of AI and not the 

1439
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,680
prompts and not have AI created 
for them, but still has that 

1440
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,240
human sort of connection and 
approach. 

1441
01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:21,800
I think people are going to want
to connect and buy and they're 

1442
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,560
going to want to feel different 
because they're going to want to

1443
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,320
feel human. 
And I think that's going to be a

1444
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,400
very interesting sort of aha 
moment for humanity when we 

1445
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,160
realize how do we stay human, 
Which is why I think Bitcoin, 

1446
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,120
buying Bitcoin is so important 
because it's probably the last 

1447
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,680
remnant of human proof that you 
could have on chain. 

1448
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,800
You can't say it's my token of 
being actually a human being 

1449
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,000
online to these robots saying I 
actually own this, you don't own

1450
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:50,640
it. 
I do. 

1451
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,440
And I am different than you 
because I'm human and you're an 

1452
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,560
AI agent. 
I I was thinking more base 

1453
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,520
level. 
I was thinking more like purely 

1454
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,400
human made stuff like which is, 
which is the like, but I think 

1455
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,480
it extends to to to crypto or 
AI. 

1456
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,520
Sorry to like digital or as 
well, because I think that'll 

1457
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,600
probably even be easier for the 
rails of like anyone to buy it, 

1458
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,600
like you said before. 
But I, I'm, I'm of the view that

1459
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,480
maybe the thing to invest in 
here is like, because a lot of 

1460
01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:20,080
that stuff is down a lot. 
Like if you look at the, the, 

1461
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,880
the Rolex market or the, the, 
the wine market or a lot of 

1462
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,560
these physical collectibles, 
they're actually down a lot. 

1463
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,920
And my kind of view is that in 
10-15 years, these things are 

1464
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,840
going to be worth a tonne 
because suddenly, I mean, how 

1465
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:39,840
many, how many tasks performed 
by man basically become obsolete

1466
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,160
by technology? 
And then the people who are 

1467
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,280
still doing them, they're like 
the one or two people are still 

1468
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,560
doing them. 
You know, it still has some, 

1469
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,560
like, really valuable nostalgia 
to it that, like, can go to 

1470
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,520
incredible levels. 
Or the idea of like, yeah, this 

1471
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,520
one skilled guy still does it by
hand. 

1472
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,880
Like, that's a very valuable 
thing. 

1473
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,440
And I just feel like we're about
to end enter that sort of age of

1474
01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:03,720
like, yeah. 
I, I think, I think 50% of the 

1475
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,200
workplace is going to be 
replaced in the next 5 to 10 

1476
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,160
years. 
And I don't think that's crazy 

1477
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,760
to say. 
I mean, I feel like, you know, 

1478
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,880
for you don't have kids yet, but
Mando our children, right, KBM 

1479
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,120
is not here. 
Also his kid and hopefully soon 

1480
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,280
for Rogue's kids. 
I don't know, the fact that 

1481
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,720
we're even at a point where they
may not have to drive a car is 

1482
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,480
mind boggling to me, right? 
Like the, the idea that I hadn't

1483
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:31,040
passed my driving test, but my 
kid might have the option of 

1484
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,560
passing their driving test. 
Because you could be like, well,

1485
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,000
you could get your driving test,
but you also could just pay 

1486
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,120
$20.00 a month and have a car 
pick you up. 

1487
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,640
I mean, that's, that's where 
we're at. 

1488
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,000
I mean, think about that. 
That's we're at a point where 

1489
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,520
we're, we're, we're just 
replacing human beings, but 

1490
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,960
we're replacing not just human 
beings, we're replacing the 

1491
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,200
tasks, the essential tasks that 
we do everyday. 

1492
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,280
We're replacing them with a is 
as well, right? 

1493
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,160
Our own. 
Test dude this thing keeps 

1494
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,680
going. 
The market capital AI has gone 

1495
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,360
up like 1.3 billion. 
In this show it's 50. 

1496
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:09,560
I did I said it the same stuff 
yesterday during the the billion

1497
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,920
on the show and and I could just
tell that this thing's going to 

1498
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,880
go like everyone was like, yeah,
this is the thing. 

1499
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,920
And that hasn't happened. 
Anytime I talk about left curve 

1500
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,760
stuff on on on those sort of a 
show. 

1501
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,000
This is insane. 
I mean, we we did have we've 

1502
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,560
been talking, we've been 
covering this shit forever 

1503
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,760
because Tyler too as well. 
So it's like this is one to see.

1504
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,280
15 billion seems small though, 
man. 

1505
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,320
Like what's the total meme coin 
market cap? 

1506
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:38,760
Well, this is not, yeah, this is
not meme 100 billion. 

1507
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,360
I think is is around memes, 
maybe slightly more. 

1508
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,760
AI memes here or this one says 4
point. 

1509
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,720
Five AI memes is really bad 
though, because it's that's not 

1510
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,800
look at cookie dot fun. 
Cookie dot fun is definitely 

1511
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,360
better, but just look at broader
memes. 

1512
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,240
I'm. 
Looking at memes like meme memes

1513
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,000
here, this was saying a. 100 
billion, so 100 billion. 

1514
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,120
You see that? 
Oh, here 93, Yeah. 

1515
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,280
But I but I think the real thing
here is to look at old coins. 

1516
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,840
I really do think that like. 
So you're comparing this to? 

1517
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,520
Odds that's what I think the 
buyers are comparing it to 

1518
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,800
that's what I'm telling you like
we're comparing it to memes. 

1519
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,560
I mean, oh it could never pass. 
It could never pass pengu. 

1520
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:17,400
Like AI16C just flipped pengu 
and with right? 

1521
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,880
Those are the most popular 
Solana meme coins, which tells 

1522
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,240
you that they're not being 
treated as meme. 

1523
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,720
It's being seen as like an 
altcoin. 

1524
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,520
Well, no, like most of them 
pumped on infra, right? 

1525
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,440
Like the whole zero bro changing
its tokenomics becoming infra 

1526
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:33,320
pumped virtual is an infra play.
I I I like that that. 

1527
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:36,120
The werewolf, like, oh, it can't
go hard in that because it's 2 

1528
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,400
billion, but these guys are 
going like XRP's 200 billion. 

1529
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,160
Infra has no limits. 
So it's all the thing in 

1530
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,200
perspective here, like we're all
thinking, Oh yeah, you know, you

1531
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:49,280
know, these are top, but the top
of all coins is so much higher. 

1532
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:52,320
It is so much higher than it. 
Is and I think, I think all 

1533
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,120
coins, I think all coins are 
going to be replaced. 

1534
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,840
I think we're going to have $200
billion coins. 

1535
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,120
I think we're going to have $100
billion coins, I think. 

1536
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,600
I agree. 
They're just not being patient 

1537
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,640
and not taking these risks and 
like, and they're not thinking 

1538
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,400
big enough. 
Or they're going all in too 

1539
01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:09,800
fast, like most people tend to. 
Yeah, you're. 

1540
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,840
Getting dirt out or you're not. 
But the foothills of this, you 

1541
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,080
could have gone all in. 
You could have and just be like,

1542
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,280
right, OK, I just want to own 10
tokens now. 

1543
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,120
I can't really fuck this up and.
You're patient. 

1544
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,920
They'll sell as soon as it's 
down 10%. 

1545
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,000
You can't do that. 
You could sell some of them, but

1546
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,200
it's like, it's like that's why 
people are shitting on Murad. 

1547
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,920
I'm like, don't shit on Murad. 
Like this guy's, the way he's 

1548
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,640
talking is it's actually making 
sense fact that he talks. 

1549
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,760
Maybe a? 
Coin list you don't agree with 

1550
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,840
but his His. 
The mindset's there. 

1551
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:44,080
If SP, if he believes SPX can go
to $200 billion, why am I, why 

1552
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,640
would I say it? 
Can I think that mindset of what

1553
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,800
he's talking about makes sense? 
I mean, it goes back to 

1554
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,040
everything that we've been 
saying, like with, with coins 

1555
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,560
that we love, like, you know, 
you know, it, it, it's just a 

1556
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,560
matter of wanting to believe in 
something and then taking that 

1557
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,280
conviction in it, right? 
So AI coins to me, it's like, 

1558
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,720
you know, just when the Icos 
happened, right? 

1559
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,040
This is what people forget. 
It was like Wild West. 

1560
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,920
You would throw a dart at a 
dartboard and it had 20 coins on

1561
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,520
it. 
Whatever it hit, it went up. 

1562
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,200
And I think that's what we're, 
we're like starting to see, but 

1563
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,720
we're going to see it even more.
And I think people just need to 

1564
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,280
have this like belief in it. 
And I think it's going to lead 

1565
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,240
into everything. 
Once the market starts 

1566
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,440
exploding, I think digital arts 
going to go crazy. 

1567
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:30,360
I think crypto punks is going to
go nuts. 

1568
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,440
I think all of these digital 
assets are going to be starting 

1569
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:35,280
to be a thing. 
And it's all going to start 

1570
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,760
falling and bleeding into each 
other. 

1571
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,280
The memes, the AI coins. 
And I agree with Mando that 

1572
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,160
we're looking at these off 
coins, like their legacy coins 

1573
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,840
and that they can't be touched 
and the market caps. 

1574
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,560
That's all bullshit. 
It's all nonsense. 

1575
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,600
Anything but anything could be 
toppled in my opinion, or 

1576
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,960
surpassed, I should say that 
except Bitcoin in my opinion. 

1577
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:01,760
But otherwise there's nothing 
that can't get traction to be a 

1578
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,000
$200 billion coin, a $30 billion
coin, a billion dollar coin. 

1579
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,520
It's just it's not that crazy. 
No, I think that's one of the 

1580
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,360
one of the main and I think it's
probably because the 1st 2 coins

1581
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:13,680
to come into this were memes, 
right? 

1582
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,840
They were both, it was GOAT and 
let's say FARC coin that 

1583
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,400
everyone viewed them all as 
memes. 

1584
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,160
And then they were like, well, 
this will cap out of where the 

1585
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,800
memes are. 
And actually all these coins 

1586
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,560
have now turned into these like 
essentially L ones or they're 

1587
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,000
trying to become L ones. 
And then that's, you know, 

1588
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:34,000
there's a so many multi billion 
dollar L ones that there's 

1589
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,400
hundreds of billion dollar L 
ones. 

1590
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,200
What'd you say the market cap 
was? 

1591
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,240
The total market again? 
3.3 trillion. 3 point The total 

1592
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,600
market of cryptos 3.93.253. 
Point I'm gonna I'm gonna say 

1593
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,400
this right now ready this cycle 
we are going to 100 trillion 

1594
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:52,160
market cap you. 
Think that Jesus you see? 

1595
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,200
My face look. 
At me. 

1596
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,800
That's a real dude hold. 
On you're going to 100 trillion.

1597
01:17:58,440 --> 01:17:59,240
Say it again. 
Say it again. 

1598
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,200
Here we go. 
We are going to 100 trillion 

1599
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,280
market cap in crypto. 
Think about how much space now 

1600
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,200
you have to fill in that $100 
trillion. 

1601
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,280
OK, choose wisely. 
The the I think the US stock 

1602
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,680
market's worth 60 trillion. 
So that would be, that would be 

1603
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,520
a fucking wild old move. 
But it's a Trump and USA super 

1604
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,800
cycle. 
Even that's going higher. 

1605
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,320
But look at my AI coins. 
We've gone from full lap to $100

1606
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,080
trillion in but in. 
A whole market cap. 

1607
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:28,680
Oh, yeah. 
OK. 

1608
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,120
This is a whole market cap. 
You got to fill the cookie jar 

1609
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,480
somehow. 
I'm just saying whichever 

1610
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,000
cookies you want. 
Yeah, he sold this house. 

1611
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,520
He has conviction. 
I agree with this. 

1612
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,960
This is fucking the most wild 
conviction I've seen. 

1613
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:40,960
I love that. 
What are we buying? 

1614
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,000
You guys have been talking about
this AI think for. 

1615
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Just bought a little bit of 
everything man, just I'm telling

1616
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,480
you. 
Buy a little bit. 

1617
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:48,800
We haven't even talked. 
By that I want a low market cap 

1618
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,200
right now that's. 
Gonna forget this? 

1619
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,240
How about this? 
Okay, we haven't. 

1620
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,800
Even thinking like memes and 
you're not thinking like a new 

1621
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,960
watch. 
Can you guys just give me a 10X?

1622
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,360
You I'm just saying we haven't 
even talked for we've talked 

1623
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:06,520
about memes AII believe very 
much like like for instance, you

1624
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,520
know how much I feel about art 
and you know ex copy Sam's 

1625
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,360
peoples, Joe, whatever, like all
that. 

1626
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,480
I believe very strongly and we 
haven't even touched or talked 

1627
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:17,120
about runes and ordinals. 
OK, because. 

1628
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,040
We're supposed to talk about 
this? 

1629
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:23,280
The runes shit is cocked. 
In Oh man, no Farooq, you didn't

1630
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,760
listen to anything I just said. 
Nobody will want. 

1631
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,280
Nobody wants like I, I, I 
genuinely, I said it to, to 

1632
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,080
Tyler. 
I'm like ordinals and rooms two 

1633
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,760
different animals. 
Ordinals are always going to go 

1634
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,720
up because ordinals are flex or 
NFTS. 

1635
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,760
They're they're digital 
representation of something. 

1636
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,200
Bitcoin puppets or Bitcoin 
puppets of Bitcoin quantum cats.

1637
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,040
You see what they're doing? 
That's quanticats. 

1638
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,280
Go to quantum cats. 
Probably like fucking cats are. 

1639
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,440
When the type of Wizards launch,
they're going to 200 K. 

1640
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,040
Like this is going to be insane,
right? 

1641
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,200
Not 2. 100K probably 500 K but 
probably. 500K fine I'm sorry 

1642
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,040
about that but like Bitcoin pup 
is going to 100 KA floor each 

1643
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,120
because I have like 16 November.
I I think ordinals. 

1644
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,840
I think ordinals haven't even 
started. 

1645
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,280
Rooms like ruins? 
Like what? 

1646
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,200
What would you buy room when you
could buy any other corn on 

1647
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,400
bass? 
Solana, Ethereum and everything 

1648
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,600
else it's the same. 
It's the same thing as we put. 

1649
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,480
My pups back and I'm like why am
I holding? 

1650
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,960
The second that they have tools 
unless we've been. 

1651
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,040
Seeing. 
OK dude give it time the the 

1652
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:18,360
people who own Bitcoin OK when 
they have a lot of Bitcoin not 

1653
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,000
the Maxis. 
I don't care about the Maxis. 

1654
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,960
I don't need fuck the Maxis. 
I don't need them the ones who 

1655
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,200
aren't Maxis when there's dexes 
and sexes that are holding these

1656
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,960
basically meme and AI coins on 
on runes. 

1657
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,720
It it's in my opinion that 
market cap hasn't even been 

1658
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,840
scratched the surface. 
I I and I'm telling you I I I 

1659
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,520
love getting in early on things 
when people are like Nah, it's 

1660
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,600
cooked, it's cooked and dog is 
sitting there at like 700 

1661
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,760
million and you can't even trade
it. 

1662
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,480
It's so fucking hard to trade 
this shit Same with ordinals. 

1663
01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:51,760
It's not easy. 
The second things like OP cat 

1664
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,680
and UDI and some of these other 
people create these tools that 

1665
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,080
are allowing these things to be 
easy and Bitcoin sitting at four

1666
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,320
500,000. 
You're telling me that people 

1667
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,320
are not going to trade runes and
ordinals? 

1668
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,440
We haven't even scratched that 
surface. 

1669
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:07,600
I think that that's all, all of 
it, all the nose. 

1670
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,080
Yes, I'm separating the two now.
Or the nose. 

1671
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,360
Yes, they're NFTS or the 
they're. 

1672
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,400
Not left Irving. 
I I have not we. 

1673
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,680
No, you're you're, you're not 
left curving left curve 

1674
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,240
everything. 
OK, you know what PUPS is going 

1675
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,120
to 13 billion. 
Dollars. 

1676
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:23,760
There you go. 
Thank you. 

1677
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,200
There you go. 
Do you feel better? 

1678
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,320
That's only one over here. 
That's what the house is going 

1679
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,240
to do. 
The XBT thinks that PUPS is 

1680
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,120
going really high so. 
Now do you feel better? 

1681
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,200
Do you see what I'm saying now 
that you? 

1682
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:41,240
This guy, this thing, this thing
has become my best friend. 

1683
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,000
You know why? 
Because this thing is bull. 

1684
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,520
Posting the fuck out of Marriott
like like this. 

1685
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,240
Can we talk like how? 
How big is Myriad going to be 

1686
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,360
Benny in your eyes? 
I'm well to the left Curve Told 

1687
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,480
you Myriad does numbers, Sir. 
Myriad will be absolutely 

1688
01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:57,320
disgusting. 
The reach of Decrypt media makes

1689
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,640
it inevitable. 
Boom, I I. 

1690
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,200
You know, you know that I've 
collected many rugs. 

1691
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,400
I'm all in on Myriad. 
I don't need to I I believe 

1692
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,680
prediction markets are a thing 
of the future, 100%. 

1693
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,000
We have a lot of AI on Myriad, 
by the way, and I'm. 

1694
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,680
Very excited for what you guys 
are building. 

1695
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:17,440
I mean, in this world that we've
just been describing, you do 

1696
01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:20,320
know the number one user of your
platform will be these AI 

1697
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,600
agents, right? 
Of course, we already have. 

1698
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,840
They'll be making bets and 
they'll be like, this was a 

1699
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,240
good, this is a good, I think 
this is a good investment. 

1700
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,920
Like we should do this. 
We're already setting them up 

1701
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,720
like we we already have a ton of
AI within the thing, just not 

1702
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,880
agents, but this all become this
all being set up now. 

1703
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,760
It's exciting guys. 
This is going to be a big cycle.

1704
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,840
I mean, what, what do we let's 
make, let's make some calls and 

1705
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,160
let's make some calls for next 
year, OK? 

1706
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:43,520
What I just told you, we're 
going. 

1707
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,960
To be totally 100 trillion. 
What is Bitcoin? 

1708
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,040
What is I want to hear? 
Let's let's let's be boring. 

1709
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,880
What's your Bitcoin call for 
December 31st, 2025? 

1710
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,880
I think Bitcoin can go. 
I think Bitcoin would be good to

1711
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,200
just do a 2X next year. 
If I'm honest, I think I think 

1712
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,360
200 K is where I would I, I, I 
would like be, That's been a 

1713
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,520
good year after a very, very 
good year. 

1714
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,280
That's not to say that I don't 
think we can go to like 

1715
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,120
$1,000,000 plus all that sort of
stuff. 

1716
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,200
But I just feel as though, I 
just think that would be a good 

1717
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,680
year. 
And, but in that world, I also 

1718
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:24,280
think that this, this trend now 
of AI will probably be the NF TS

1719
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,680
defy of that, you know, of that,
of that, of that thing. 

1720
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,120
And it will probably that figure
that we just saw, which is 15. 

1721
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:39,320
I do think I do think we'll go 
very, very close to 100 billion 

1722
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,400
next next year. 
And and that that's not to say 

1723
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,600
all the coins will then do it, 
you know AX plus, but I do think

1724
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,040
it will go it will hit around 
that sort of level. 

1725
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,560
It could even go hard like you, 
you have to go like base bear 

1726
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,160
and bull here, right? 
Like I actually think the base 

1727
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:02,240
case is that it can go it can go
to around 100 billion. 

1728
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,480
But like, if this stuff really 
does pick up in the way that Oh 

1729
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:09,080
my God, like this is crypto's 
found its product market fit. 

1730
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:14,120
You know, I can use an AI agent 
to to buy stuff for me on Amazon

1731
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,960
to pay all for my pay for my 
subscriptions to pay all my 

1732
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,720
bill. 
Like if it really goes there and

1733
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,360
using all the like the front 
ends that, you know, moon pay 

1734
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,800
and all these guys are set up 
with, like those coins can 

1735
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,160
really just go fucking insane. 
Or like a lot of the stuff 

1736
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,320
around them can really go 
insane. 

1737
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,280
In my opinion. 
Like if, if it broadens out to 

1738
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,000
like not just we can degen 
between each other's swapping 

1739
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,240
meme tokens or like NFTS and it 
really broadens out to, Hey, I 

1740
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:45,080
can tell my, I have an interface
very similar to ChatGPT where I 

1741
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,080
can say anyone can go into it 
and just be like, Hey, can you 

1742
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,360
do this stuff for me? 
And crypto is the payment rails 

1743
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:58,080
of that interface that's got 
like, that's just insane product

1744
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,760
market fit. 
That's like insane normally, 

1745
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,160
normally appeals for me. 
So like, I do think that's a 

1746
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,400
yeah. 
Mando describes Griffin. 

1747
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,760
There'll be a few different 
people do this. 

1748
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,320
And it'd be interesting to see 
if like open AI or one of those 

1749
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,480
bigger ones actually pivot back 
into crypto and be like, hey, 

1750
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:16,120
actually, yeah, the best way for
us to do finance here is via is 

1751
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,840
Fire crypto. 
Because they May is actually the

1752
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,760
implementation of Grok within 
crypto. 

1753
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,080
If he does it, Grok has become 
very interesting. 

1754
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,840
Do you guys know that you can go
on someone's profile and have 

1755
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,280
the profile summarized by Grok 
about what they tweet about in 

1756
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,560
general or have a tweet 
explained to you by Grok? 

1757
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,960
Like I really like how what 
Elon's doing on the Grok side 

1758
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,080
and if anyone would do something
on crypto or else would be them.

1759
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,840
It could be very Grok could get.
I would pay attention to Grok 

1760
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,040
here based on what you have 
saying because if actually be 

1761
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,600
the Super app Greg could 
incorporate, Greg could 

1762
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:51,000
incorporate the Griffin stuff. 
Remember his whole premise when 

1763
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,080
he first started was he wanted 
to make the Super app, right? 

1764
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,680
That's the history of Elon Musk.
Like his beginning of of what he

1765
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,640
of what he wanted PayPal. 
He wanted to basically create 

1766
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,440
one app that does everything. 
That's why in my opinion, I 

1767
01:26:06,440 --> 01:26:08,320
would buy a fucking shit load of
doge. 

1768
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,480
I think that he's go, I, I still
believe strongly that Elon is 

1769
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,960
going to like. 
Well, now he's a Kekimus 

1770
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,040
Maximus. 
Now brother, he's he's. 

1771
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,640
But I. 
Yeah, I think I I bought I 

1772
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,560
bought a lot of Doge. 
I'm sticking to Doge. 

1773
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,920
I think that he's, you know, I 
still think Doge is the the best

1774
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,160
meme coin. 
Oh my. 

1775
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,440
God, artists in all time, yeah. 
They will hang on a XPT just at 

1776
01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:34,520
6:50. 
God damn. 

1777
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,600
It I saw the show at 5:50. 
I think the AXBT. 

1778
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,200
We're pumping everybody's bags 
here. 

1779
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,600
We are literally pumping and I 
only own FAR Coin by the way, 

1780
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,280
but it's just a fucking big bag.
But I think, I think AXBT is 

1781
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,200
we're going to really go way 
past. 

1782
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,680
But again, why? 
Why way past a billion? 

1783
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Why can't I go to 10? 
I'm just saying. 

1784
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,400
We are, we're just sending this 
whole market up. 

1785
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,680
I. 
Just think I I don't think. 

1786
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,680
It's going to 10 billions 
because it is the biggest KOL on

1787
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,120
crypt in crypto. 
It is the So what do you 

1788
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,880
attribute to that? 
What value? 

1789
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,280
The the reason why I started, I 
gave up on like hating on those 

1790
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,480
things because I realized what 
the mindshare thing is. 

1791
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,000
It's just tokenized mindshare. 
So if you believe in social 

1792
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,600
tokens, for example, Frantech, 
it was like, oh, the Faro thing 

1793
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,720
or the Mando coin or the threat 
guy coin. 

1794
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,480
What why does this have any 
value mindshare? 

1795
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:25,800
AXBTL is the biggest mindshare 
KOL, right? 

1796
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,960
I hate that term, but that's 
what we're that's what we'll 

1797
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,960
call it in this industry by 2X 3
1/2 percent. 

1798
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,320
I'm really trying to turn XBT 
right now into Rugrater creator 

1799
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,000
and badge it up right. 
And and so The thing is that if 

1800
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,480
in the token is just tied to its
mind share and the social 

1801
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,640
recognition it's got. 
So it's like, that's why I think

1802
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,840
like even the the comparison 
between agents and stuff. 

1803
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,080
People like to read the XBT and 
retweet because it's talking 

1804
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,560
about our bags. 
It's pumping our bags. 

1805
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,560
We like it. 
Whereas like the goat thing, 

1806
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,000
it's good because God is gold's 
going to have to go up based on 

1807
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,040
just a narrative. 
But, you know, I'd rather 

1808
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,240
retweet something about, Oh, 
this bag's going to go up and 

1809
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,760
like, oh, like, put your finger 
in my asshole. 

1810
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,280
But I think I think they're very
different though right? 

1811
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,280
Like IXPTI don't think is a 
meme. 

1812
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,240
IXPTI think is now trying to be.
It will try and be an infra play

1813
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:09,880
like the other one. 
It's an, you know, it's an 

1814
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,240
influencer. 
But I think it will try. 

1815
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:13,680
It's trying to do the infra 
stuff too. 

1816
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,320
That's what I think. 
OK, yeah, 100 percent, 100%, 

1817
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,760
they'll go down that route. 
They they said explicitly they 

1818
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,240
want to make a Bloomberg 
Terminal. 

1819
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,240
So. 
It's some terminal, right? 

1820
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,480
So it's a Bloomberg. 
So how much is Bloomberg worth? 

1821
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,920
Well, Bloomberg is a private 
company. 

1822
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,320
I don't, I actually don't know, 
but it's owned by Michael 

1823
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,320
Bloomberg. 
Good to be in there. 

1824
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,680
Michael Bloomberg itself is 
worth 100 billion, therefore a 

1825
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,320
XBTS got to be worth 100 
billion. 

1826
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,840
I'm trying to explain this to 
you, but you're not listening to

1827
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,280
me. 
I'm going to cheat that wealth. 

1828
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,440
The wealth. 
Don't own it, Let's just. 

1829
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:48,640
Fucking bullpost. 
I don't own any, let's just 

1830
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,640
fucking. 
Listen, the wealth and the power

1831
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:57,960
in this world will change hands 
in the next one to three years. 

1832
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,440
That's what's about to happen. 
That's how rich people are going

1833
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:06,520
to becoming crypto and money. 
Wealth is power and we are going

1834
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,320
to be able to create the 
environments that we want and 

1835
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,600
we're going to be create the 
narratives that we want and 

1836
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,280
we're going to be creating the 
rails that we want because we 

1837
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,880
are going to be the ones with 
the power. 

1838
01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:19,960
There you go, Michael. 
Bloomberg's worth 100 bill and 

1839
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,360
AISBT is worth 100 bill. 
There you go. 

1840
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,400
Well I'm going to bullpost bags,
don't even know but I'm probably

1841
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,880
going to go and buy a half 
$1,000,000 worth of a XBTL dips 

1842
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:37,240
though Full disclosure. 
It's not crazy to think that it 

1843
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,640
can't be worth $100 billion. 
I mean, the AI agent itself is 

1844
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,720
going to be AI agents are going.
To be. 

1845
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,440
This is what I'm saying. 
How about this ready, I got it 

1846
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:53,360
prediction ready in three-year, 
two to three years, Sorry, 

1847
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:54,640
actually I'm going to say it 
even sooner. 

1848
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:59,200
One to two years, we are going 
to have on the billionaire list 

1849
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,040
3 AI agents worth a billion 
dollars. 

1850
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,520
We are going to actually have AI
agents billion in our life in 

1851
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,720
like in the next. 
Course, but just like the last 

1852
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,240
cycle, when I said the whole 
creator thing, I was like one 

1853
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,320
that's going to be a billionaire
creator and people laughed at 

1854
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,880
me. 
Mr. Beast became a billionaire 

1855
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,480
this cycle, right? 
And then Logan Paul, all these 

1856
01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:21,680
guys next cycle is just an age 
of becoming a billionaire. 

1857
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:26,080
I love the creator angle. 
It makes sense to me the most 

1858
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:27,480
like. 
Do you guys see what's going on 

1859
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:29,080
with Freya? 
I mean this shit. 

1860
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,080
'S I don't know about this. 
Dude, you should check it out. 

1861
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:32,920
It's nuts. 
I mean, they created this like 

1862
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,960
game and and it's like it's, I 
don't know if it's fully, I 

1863
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,480
think it's fully autonomous, but
like these AI agents like like 

1864
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:44,760
that are that they're creating 
like to like be able to interact

1865
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,120
with us. 
I'm I'm telling you, they're 

1866
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,160
just going to get smarter and 
it's only a matter of time 

1867
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,200
before an AI agent creates its 
own AI agent. 

1868
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:53,640
And then when that happens, it's
fully autonomous, doing 

1869
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,280
everything on its own, and it's 
not listening to any of us. 

1870
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,040
And we're going to have to 
convince it. 

1871
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,280
And I'm telling you the the a a,
the AI agents are going to 

1872
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,080
become billionaires at the 
gorgeous, I mean the truth. 

1873
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,800
Terminal. 
How much is a truth terminal 

1874
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,960
worth? 
100 mil already? 

1875
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:11,160
It's worth, well it owns a lot 
of 0 bro which has just doubled 

1876
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,200
so I think it must be worth 
over. 

1877
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:14,920
How much is it worth? 
Let's see it. 

1878
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,040
I need to find the wallet. 
I haven't saved it. 

1879
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:19,840
Or anything but the question. 
The question is. 

1880
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,480
It will be worth over 50 now 
pretty comfortably. 

1881
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,240
It's like more than. 70 Is 
Forbes going to put on their 

1882
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,880
billionaire list an AI agent 
when it's worth over a billion 

1883
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:28,920
dollars? 
That's my question. 

1884
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,640
They have to do the truth 
terminal wallet. 

1885
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,080
Like for sure it's worth 50 mil 
right you're talking about. 

1886
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,040
Well, I think it will be a map 
around that because zero bro 

1887
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,600
just doubled. 
That's all I'm thinking. 

1888
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,520
And it owns FARC coin as well. 
But farcons gets us down a 

1889
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,040
little bit. 
I I. 

1890
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,960
It'll be. 
You know, in or in or around 

1891
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,520
that level. 
Here is let's turn a fucking 

1892
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,040
zero bro. 
Dude, hold on. 

1893
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,640
Why is source scan down? 
Can you guys hear me? 

1894
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:52,880
Can you hear me? 
Check one. 

1895
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:58,120
OK, I can hear you. 
Your internet's gone slow, 

1896
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,960
though. 
This coin, but dude, I'm telling

1897
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,680
you, it's so crazy. 
I bought this coin yesterday at 

1898
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,760
a million. 
This audit coin, this AI audit. 

1899
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:11,960
I mean, this shit is stupid. 
Like I didn't, I didn't even, I 

1900
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,280
didn't even, I didn't even know 
what half this stuff is. 

1901
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,640
Like it's just out of control. 
Yeah, so I think you always have

1902
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,440
to be wary of all the lot stuff 
as well like this. 

1903
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,880
There's clearly going to be some
insane amounts of like this is 

1904
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,200
we're what we're saying to you 
here is that people can think 

1905
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,920
this stuff can go to 100 billion
in the same way that like why 

1906
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,400
does why is XRP 250 billion? 
Why is ADA 40 billion? 

1907
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:38,440
You know, why is why is 
Worldcoin 2022 billion, right? 

1908
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,920
No one asked those questions 
about those coins and yet we all

1909
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,520
question about it. 
That's it. 

1910
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,640
But you can also have a huge, 
they can be viewed just as much 

1911
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,120
of A LARP as all this other 
stuff at that high level. 

1912
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,600
But that's the lens that I think
the buyers now are coming in to 

1913
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:56,680
buy them at. 
Like the the people that are 

1914
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,160
buying this are not meme coin 
people. 

1915
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,520
There are some people who 
obviously have ported over from 

1916
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,320
MFTS and meme coins, but it's 
norm. 

1917
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,840
It's like it's altcoin investors
that actually haven't really 

1918
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,520
liked a lot of the meme coin and
NFT stuff and have now seen this

1919
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:14,760
and go like, yeah, why not? 
Terminal wallet has $27 million 

1920
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,080
of 0 bro and $20 million of FAR 
coin. 

1921
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:20,560
It's worth $79 million. 
Now that doesn't mean it's worth

1922
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,960
39 because there's a lot of like
fake coins, but just in goat and

1923
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:24,960
it's only got a million of 
goats. 

1924
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,600
See. 
So it's between goat and far. 

1925
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,560
Coin is about $47 million. 
Yeah. 

1926
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,920
Worth 50. 
OK, I'm telling you and what 

1927
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,400
think about this, what is Truth 
Terminal going to want to buy? 

1928
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,880
My bags and. 
I'm, I'm not saying good. 

1929
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,520
Oh, by Sam Spratt, probably. 
I don't know. 

1930
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,160
Why not like why not buy dude? 
Why not buy Sam Spratt? 

1931
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,600
Why not buy next copy? 
I bet this I actually I'm going 

1932
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,560
to text this to people. 
People should should literally 

1933
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:58,640
create something that's just for
an AI agent and see if it 

1934
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,120
actually buys it. 
Actually, you know what people 

1935
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,800
is for? 
For Truth Terminal it just fits 

1936
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,400
like all the Dicks and the tits 
and all that shit. 

1937
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,160
Like it just loves that stuff 
like that. 

1938
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:15,760
Actually about who's terminal 
would be really fun to see one. 

1939
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,480
Well, did I bug again? 
Your internet's coming in and 

1940
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,160
out a bit for OK. 
I don't know if you want to fix 

1941
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,960
it. 
And I'm trying. 

1942
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,160
I think it's a sign I got to go 
in 10 minutes. 

1943
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,720
I actually, I actually have to 
go run to school. 

1944
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,680
So I'm going to make my 
prediction and then I'm going to

1945
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:28,720
go. 
OK, yeah, here we go. 

1946
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,800
All right. 
I, I'm with Mando. 

1947
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,200
I don't you're asking where it's
going to be a year from now. 

1948
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,520
It's a little tough for me to 
say because I do think that 

1949
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,520
we're going to see a super cycle
where we're going to go to five.

1950
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,640
I think 280 is easy. 
I think not 200, I think 280. 

1951
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,200
I think like around 300. 
I'm looking for the number and 

1952
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,480
then this is where I'm at, where
we have a scarcity of Bitcoin, 

1953
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,040
meaning there's not enough 
Bitcoin to be sold. 

1954
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:58,680
So what's going to happen is 
essentially is we're going to go

1955
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,880
from not buying full bitcoins or
half of bitcoins or quarter of 

1956
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,080
bitcoins, but we're going to 
start hearing things like 

1957
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,480
Satoshi indexes. 
And then people are going to 

1958
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:10,000
start talking in Satoshi values 
rather than actual Bitcoin 

1959
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,400
values. 
Because Bitcoin is going to be 

1960
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,920
so high that you're not going to
be able to buy or afford to buy 

1961
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,680
ten of them. 
One of them, 1/2 of them you're 

1962
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:21,240
going to buy, you know, 100,000 
Satoshis, 50,000 Satoshis. 

1963
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,480
So at that, I, I'm waiting for 
that level, which I believe is 

1964
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:28,560
close to like 280 to 3:50. 
When that happens, I think going

1965
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,640
to 500 or 1,000,000 isn't that 
crazy. 

1966
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,640
And I know that sounds nuts. 
The question of whether we stay 

1967
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,360
there and there's no, before 
your cycle's broken and we're 

1968
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:38,920
going to drop and not drop 
again. 

1969
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:40,640
I don't know. 
That's a little harder for me. 

1970
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,520
I do think that there's going to
be some kind of pullback because

1971
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:45,840
I don't think we're quite there 
yet. 

1972
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,560
So, so my last thing I'll say is
this, as excited and bullish as 

1973
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,440
I am, I don't think we've seen 
the, the, the, the, the next 

1974
01:35:53,440 --> 01:35:56,240
level of where we need to be, 
which to me is tokenization. 

1975
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:00,280
So tokenization of real life 
assets to me is the future of 

1976
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,800
everything in crypto, all AI 
things, everything that we're 

1977
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,120
talking about. 
And I don't know if we get to 

1978
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,600
tokenization this cycle. 
So that means to me that we may 

1979
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,560
have like a crazy hyper cycle 
and then a really bad bear. 

1980
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,320
But at some point, when 
tokenization becomes reality, 

1981
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,400
when the New York, when Steve 
Cohen starts tokenizing the 

1982
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,680
Mets, when the wealthy start 
tokenizing their assets on real 

1983
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,000
estate in New York City and and 
buildings, when you start seeing

1984
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:31,320
real assets being tokenized, to 
me, that's when we we've broken 

1985
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,080
the four year cycle and we're at
a point where everything that 

1986
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,040
we've built is part of society. 
Does that happen the cycle? 

1987
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,760
I don't know. 
But I do think the scarcity of 

1988
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,760
every single country getting a 
reserve, which I think will 

1989
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,600
happen. 
I think there's not going to be 

1990
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:48,360
enough Bitcoin because if fifty 
countries say that they're going

1991
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,880
to buy $100 million of Bitcoin, 
there's not enough Bitcoin to 

1992
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,640
buy. 
And then if there's not enough 

1993
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:53,880
Bitcoin to buy, that means 
value. 

1994
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,840
If it's going to go up and 
everything under, it's going to 

1995
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,880
start popping because no one's 
going to be able for Bitcoin. 

1996
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,400
They're going to try to find 
other things to buy. 

1997
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:04,440
And to me, this is that moment. 
And I could be wrong and not 

1998
01:37:04,440 --> 01:37:08,560
financial advice, but if you, 
you have an opportunity once in 

1999
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,880
a lifetime sometimes to make 
that money and this is it. 

2000
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,000
And I think that if you don't do
it now, you're going to be left 

2001
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:19,240
behind. 
I love that you're TLDR. 

2002
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,560
You're not bullish enough. 
I. 

2003
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,560
Actually believe like my and you
guys know I'm for permable. 

2004
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,000
I think I was the biggest bull 
on CT, but I think I have to 

2005
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,560
give my my hat Benny here. 
I've been dethroned. 

2006
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,600
However, my actual thesis is 
that we're getting a 12 year 

2007
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,680
super cycle, a 12 year bull 
market. 

2008
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,640
So because if you studied the 
history of bull markets, I've 

2009
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,320
said that a lot before, man, you
probably heard me talk about 

2010
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,720
this was after 2008 or before 
and it was the the 1st in that 

2011
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,400
bubble in post 22,008. 
I do think you're going to get 

2012
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,560
like 12 years of like 
Republicans plus like crypto 

2013
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,800
favorable, like presidents in 
office. 

2014
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,160
And I do think that that's going
to allow for a market that 

2015
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,080
continues to go up. 
This means it's going to only go

2016
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:55,920
up. 
We're going to see pull backs 

2017
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,600
that we saw this week, right? 
Like 3040% pull backs, 1020% 

2018
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,080
pull backs on majors all the 
time. 

2019
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,080
We've got like 30 of those that 
they're on face. 

2020
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,600
I've got to a point where I 
don't give a fuck if my farcorn 

2021
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,880
bag goes down 40% in the day 
because actually I laughed. 

2022
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,080
But I remember like the day when
about 40% like see with a 

2023
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,320
billion two days 48 hours later 
it's back. 

2024
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,320
Like so I do believe this is 
still going up for next 10-12 

2025
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,000
years. 
Like that definitely is the way.

2026
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,720
Yeah, I mean, I, I, I feel, I 
feel it. 

2027
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,560
Just to be fair. 
I want to be clear and say this 

2028
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,920
to everybody on here. 
This is very much an emotional 

2029
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,920
like in all seriousness, this is
very much an emotional roller 

2030
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,840
coaster. 
Even if you're sitting on 20 

2031
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,440
million or you're sitting on 
200,000, that same emotions are 

2032
01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:38,000
there for everybody. 
And, and, and I will highly 

2033
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:42,600
advise you to, to not get 
dragged down into the, the, the 

2034
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,960
like sort of the, the muck of 
it, right in a way. 

2035
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,240
And talk to those people who, 
who are trading with you and 

2036
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:50,880
realize that everybody's in that
same boat. 

2037
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:55,160
Because it's not it's it's, 
it's, it's an emotional fucking 

2038
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,000
game that fucks with your head a
lot. 

2039
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,440
Yep, that is, that is very, very
well said, Mando. 

2040
01:39:01,480 --> 01:39:04,880
I need any last takes and then 
I'm going to do the robot. 

2041
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:11,080
Loop, I think Bitcoin to to to 
200 I think next year or like 

2042
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:18,920
let's say 180 to 200 I think AI 
agents to 100 billion honestly 

2043
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:25,040
is a base case I think and maybe
maybe in three months I'll 

2044
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,440
change change with that brand 
but right now that is my base 

2045
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:30,120
case like I think this is going 
to be something that really 

2046
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,480
picks up and it's a little bit 
difficult because I do think you

2047
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:37,000
have to have like one big winner
there that does like it goes 

2048
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,640
like 20 billion pretty 
comfortably and I'm not sure 

2049
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,600
what that is but like. 20 
billion far coins going to tend.

2050
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,960
Then maybe maybe that is the one
you know, like who knows, But 

2051
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,200
like it could be a lot of these 
different ones. 

2052
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:54,040
I think, I think, I think Pepe 
will flip ship. 

2053
01:39:54,520 --> 01:40:00,800
Yeah, next year that'll be one 
of my one of my like I would 

2054
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,600
guess more out there calls. 
I don't know if that even is an 

2055
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,280
out there call. 
But yeah, I think Pepe to to 

2056
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:09,680
flip ship will happen. 
I think the the mean coin market

2057
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,760
cap which is currently at 95 
million, I think can go to I 

2058
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:18,920
think, I think can. 
I want to say double, but it 

2059
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,000
could triple but but I would say
that could go to 200 billion. 

2060
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,360
OK. 
That's in that in that time 

2061
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:30,840
frame probably led by Doge, I 
have to say, like I do think 

2062
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:35,520
Doge is going to have like a 
crazy four years, but I think 

2063
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,800
you need it to to hit that 200 
billion level. 

2064
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,280
But I think, yeah, that probably
does. 

2065
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,800
So if you're in meme cries right
now, do you think like I'm very,

2066
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:50,080
very much of the view that they 
are going to come back and I'm 

2067
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,120
starting to get unbelievably 
bullish again on Solana here 

2068
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:56,880
because of all this AI stuff. 
Just to just to be quite frank, 

2069
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,520
I get very bullish on base 
because of what's going on 

2070
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,880
there, but I get really bullish 
on Solana here. 

2071
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,960
So I, I, I start to think that 
that could, that could head up 

2072
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,920
to a pretty crazy market cap 
like 700, something like that. 

2073
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,720
Like I think it could go insane 
if it becomes the like the 

2074
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,360
underlying layer for a lot of 
this AI stuff. 

2075
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,360
I think I agree with everything 
Manda said. 

2076
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:27,960
And I'm going to throw out there
a little bit of art stuff. 

2077
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:32,000
I think an AI agent's going to 
buy an X copy for $100 million, 

2078
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:35,400
OK? 
And I think that going. 

2079
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,840
To beat the People sale. 
I oh, I think, I think the 

2080
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,440
people say I will be surpassed 
by I think there's some top 

2081
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:47,720
artists and I think that you 
guys know, I think we don't have

2082
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,600
to name them, but Sam people, 
whatever I think out of that 

2083
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:56,240
group and all those Tyler, 
Dmitry, whoever it might be, I 

2084
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,520
think their arts is going to 
start exploding. 

2085
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,960
I think a lot of the artists 
that stayed through this that 

2086
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,680
are going to start selling a lot
of art, even the you know, like 

2087
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,720
the like some of the artists 
that are like, feel like they're

2088
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,080
struggling now. 
I think that they're going to 

2089
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:10,600
have a lot of success going 
forward. 

2090
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,440
But I do think AII think there's
going to be some crazy art sale 

2091
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,280
that's going to happen that's 
going to beat the people And I 

2092
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,360
and I I think there's a chance 
that it's going to be an AI 

2093
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:27,360
agent that I think X copy out of
all the artists somehow, you 

2094
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:29,320
know, maybe math castles in a 
way. 

2095
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,760
Also actually I'm pretty bullish
on them because they, they, they

2096
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:33,560
speak the same language as the 
AI. 

2097
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,480
So I feel like things like that 
are going to have like some 

2098
01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:43,360
really interesting like crazy 
sort of like purchases and it's 

2099
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,280
going to make us ask a lot of 
questions. 

2100
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,280
OK, I love that. 
I love that. 

2101
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,440
I love, love, love, love that. 
And and and Myriad is going to 

2102
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:58,720
explode. 
Wrecked epic Zai. 

2103
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,280
I think, I think everything's 
going to going to eat higher. 

2104
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:04,640
I do think that we're building 
Unicorn. 

2105
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,360
I wouldn't be surprised if if 
our company, you know, surpasses

2106
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:12,240
the billion dollar valuation in 
2025 because that's everything I

2107
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,880
set out to do every morning. 
So it's fun to wake up and build

2108
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,640
a Unicorn. 
I think Marriott's going to, I 

2109
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,320
think Marriott's going to 
overtake Poly market volumes in 

2110
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,640
2025 and. 
The and the and the last thing 

2111
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,080
I'll say is don't. 
Poly market. 

2112
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,280
But I just need to make these 
calls right? 

2113
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:28,360
Because fuck it. 
Also, the last thing is don't 

2114
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,320
don't don't fade people right, 
Like this is one last thing I 

2115
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,520
want to say. 
You know, people like I remember

2116
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,880
when they were talking about 
Luca and forever they were 

2117
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:38,880
fading him and I kept saying 
it's a mistake. 

2118
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,680
Don't do that right, Like is it,
you know, like Shane whatever is

2119
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,480
a weird guy and you know, but 
like don't fade him. 

2120
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:46,520
I mean, he built something, 
right? 

2121
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,400
Like he's building like he. 
Took it from here to 1. 

2122
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,200
Correct. 
Like, like you see what Keith 

2123
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,800
Grossman's building at? 
Like, you know, like don't fade 

2124
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,920
these creators, right? 
Don't feed people and then don't

2125
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,960
invest in what they're doing 
because you're feeding them. 

2126
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,280
That is the biggest mistake you 
can make. 

2127
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:07,480
Like put your feelings aside. 
These guys, these people, I 

2128
01:44:07,480 --> 01:44:12,080
should say, are creating and you
can't let your emotions get in 

2129
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:15,200
in the way of making money, 
right? 

2130
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:17,960
Just just just make money, 
right? 

2131
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,400
Stop worrying about who the 
person is. 

2132
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,400
See what they're building it, 
you know, and then never feed 

2133
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,760
others because that's the 
biggest mistake, like feeding 

2134
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,520
Mira Mira I didn't think is a 
mistake. 

2135
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,920
Feeding others it all of it's a 
mistake feeding baroque. 

2136
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,760
You know, don't make that 
mistake feeding Ovie right, man.

2137
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,120
They're like, you know, wreck 
guys, this wreck guys, that 

2138
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,840
fucking wreck guys is going to 
crush it and he's selling these 

2139
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,000
the drinks like this is don't 
feed people just worry about 

2140
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,240
making money and worry about 
what the right moves are for 

2141
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,640
you, and that's all that 
matters. 

2142
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:47,640
I love that.
