1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,280 Yo-yo yo. What up, what up? 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:07,280 Good morning. Good morning GMG. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:19,880 Monday, July 29th, 2020. Look at that another beautiful 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,000 day to have a beautiful day. I got my coast in the house. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,840 Mando Tyler AKA Airplane GCR, how you guys doing today? 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Doing great, man, doing great. Airplane GCR. 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,760 Can you hear? Me, I'm great back from 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,120 Nashville, feeling more bullish than than ever. 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,400 I even closed my my 8th short so so bullish and everything that 10 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,840 that even bullish on on you. So, so we got it, but we're 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,400 feeling good. Hold on, did you end up in the 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,080 money on that E short? Because it seems like you almost 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,800 got wiped out here. No, I, I closed it as soon as 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,320 they announced the strategic reserve policy on Saturday. 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,120 I was at the desktop. I was like, I'm, I'm not going 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,720 to go to sleep with this, with this potential catalyst on the 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,680 horizon. So I didn't make it like 30%. 18 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:10,800 I think it was up like 75% at peak. 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,680 So I didn't get like the the best return. 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,840 But and I still like we're going to see outflows this week, but 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,040 it just may not matter you. Got a little gritty, didn't you? 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,240 What can I say it happens to the IT happens to the best of us. 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,520 It's that the life of a of a crypto trader anyway, so that's 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,440 the show we got. We got a we got a big one ahead. 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,120 We got a busy show ahead. We're going to get a full 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,120 Bitcoin national report. Tyler I I saw it how I saw it 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,440 from the outside. I want to hear it from the 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,920 inside. I was for you how it happened. 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,200 What went down? How was it being in the same 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,160 room as Trump, you know, talking about this Bitcoin shit? 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Annual highlights, market report. 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Mando, you have some work to do today. 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,160 I mean, 70 K Bitcoin. Yeah, well, almost. 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,560 Well, no longer. Sorry. 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,240 We just dump as the show started. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,520 But you know, that's that's something you love to see nearly 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,640 a $200.00 Solana. You love to see it. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,720 The whole narrow thing you guys are about to you guys have to 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,360 like run me through the shit because that was totally out 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,840 when that happened. So I have no clue what went down 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,320 on that front and I'll need a TLDR here. 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,400 And last but not least, we'll join by Duo CEO Jay Hogan. 43 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:23,280 I mean, John's going to join us. We've talked about doodles over 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,600 and over and over and over and over again on the show. 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,200 It's time we bring the man of the hour on the CEO for a little 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 interview on the show. So anyways, anyways, anyways, I 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,040 don't, I don't think I have the jingles on me right now. 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,120 I had to take a quick trip to Germany. 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,080 Oh, I have them here. With that further ado, I think 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,480 we should start with Tyler today so we can get the Bitcoin 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:58,960 Nashville. TLDR All right, so crypto majors 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,120 soared overnight into the weekly open, but it does look like we 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,840 are pulling back now after the market did open. 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,120 Bitcoin 68750. This comes after the blockbuster 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,840 news on Saturday, Senator Cynthia Loomis announced a new 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Bitcoin strategic reserve policy that would acquire 1,000,000 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Bitcoin for the United States in a five year time period. 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,360 This follows Trump's speech on the ground in Bitcoin Nashville, 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,040 which was a very pro crypto speech. 60 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,440 We'll get into that in a bit. Some breaking news this morning. 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Hong Kong is now following suit. They're also looking at Bitcoin 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,200 strategic reserve, so perhaps the next domino has already 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,280 fallen. In other news, we saw Compound 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Finance was hit with a $25 million governance attack where 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,280 a user granted themselves $25 million after accumulating 66 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,840 682,000 cops. That was a wild one. 67 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,520 We saw PayPal stablecoin PYUSD and went live on Margin 5 with 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,360 additional rewards through. It's available in memes. 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,680 You kind of covered it. Nero. 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,160 Nero saw $1 billion in volume from Saturday to Sunday. 71 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,720 After a messy back and forth, multiple tokens launched across 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,080 Change the Leader this morning at 54,000,000. 73 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880 We saw Ong and Moo Moo, also a big action. 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,560 That Moo Moo coin just just keeps going up in L2 news we saw 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,000 abstract their test net went live, allowing devs to test apps 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,800 ahead of mainnet and then NF cross chains this morning after 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,560 this crypto pump and it seems like no one raced home from 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,520 Nashville to buy any ordinals. Ordinals not looking great here 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,600 this morning. Dude, these said that 80 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,760 motherfuckers talked about meme coins more than they talked 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,200 about ordinals at BTC Nashville. I thought there was only one. 82 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,240 How many chairs do you sit on Bitcoiners? 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Clearly y'all are cheating on your Herman Miller chair. 84 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:54,200 OK, because you're not buying my bags, which are Bitcoin puppets. 85 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,920 You're clearly buying all sorts of vaporware meme coin trash 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,640 like Solana like I am. Well, that's my bag. 87 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,080 They're definitely not buying that. 88 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,240 But Tyler, before we get to the rest of the stuff into the 89 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,640 market with Mando, before he has to go, tell me how was the how 90 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,800 was the how was it being there? Like I heard mixed reviews from 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,280 France. I heard some of the friends were 92 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,880 ultra bullish on it. They loved it. 93 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 And I heard another crowd was like, man, it was OK, didn't 94 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,080 have to go. So how was the How was he from 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,320 someone's actually foot on the ground? 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Never been to a Bitcoin before. I've been to crypto conferences, 97 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,680 never been to a Bitcoin one. I will say like one thing that 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,720 jumped out is like the the cult aspect. 99 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:39,120 I feel like the Bitcoiners are a stronger cult than than like the 100 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,200 NFT crowd or just maybe other broader crypto. 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,960 I mean, it feels like a very strong group. 102 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,040 I'll get into some of the the speeches here in a second. 103 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:54,880 You know, Nashville's a great, it's local, cheap, you know, I 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,560 think I took like 3 Ubers. Like everything is very 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,240 condensed. It was very easy to get around 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,720 events and into the conference. So that part was nice. 107 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,600 I mean, I think, you know, we can go into the Trump speech in 108 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,040 detail, but for me, I think that beat expectations. 109 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,080 I actually predicted that the the speech would come in under 110 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,080 expectations and he wouldn't say much. 111 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,320 I think he actually said more than I expected. 112 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:20,360 I think another take away here is crypto has become more 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,600 political than ever. I think a lot of the we're 114 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:37,360 basically just pains. I think we lost Tyler Mando. 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Do you hear him? I I can't hear him. 116 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,720 He was cutting out throughout that, but. 117 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Yeah, he's gone. He made a good point, then he 118 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,920 made a good just to kind of follow up with what he said. 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,960 I think that's that was the main take away from me even going 120 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,760 into the event is just you looked at the top speakers and 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,080 it was pretty wild that it's all like the main politicians in the 122 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:03,320 US. You have a senator announcing 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,080 policy there. You have Trump announcing policy 124 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,040 there. It it does just feel like it's 125 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,160 it's really a political issue, which I honestly a year ago if 126 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,360 someone told me it would be like this is just completely wild. 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,160 In fact, I remember being on a space where someone said that 128 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,320 they said that, you know, crypto will be an issue at the 2024 129 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,560 election. And he basically got laughed off 130 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,000 the stage. Everyone was like, there's no 131 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,960 way it gets brought up, you know, this isn't a political 132 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,840 issue anymore. No one in the US cares. 133 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Suddenly it's a political issue. So I think that's, that's 134 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,080 really, really interesting. And I think we should, yeah, we 135 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,200 should feel lucky that that it's become such a mainstream thing. 136 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,280 I it's interesting to see that that meeting though, Trump is 137 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,440 going on stage after Edward Snowden. 138 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,280 That's kind of funny, right? Like Edward Snowden, who the US 139 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,760 has been trying to prosecute for many years. 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,320 So it has, it's going to be weird this I think this meeting 141 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,360 of anti establishment and establishment, particularly in 142 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 the US, because I do think crypto probably has the biggest 143 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,040 benefits to the US at the moment. 144 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,560 But yeah, I just thought it was that that that was interesting. 145 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Yeah, by the way, just remember, we have no Rd. casts with that 146 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Tyler, because I don't have one. But I actually agree with you. 147 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Tyler's back on, so I'm going to add it. 148 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,520 There you go. Tyler's back on. 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Do you wanna? Do you wanna mute? 150 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,680 Oh, you're still here? Oh, as a listener, let me get 151 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,040 you back up on stage. Shit. 152 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,400 How do we still get these problems on X? 153 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:36,280 Let me get Tyler. You hear me? 154 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Right. Yeah, I can hear you. 155 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Yeah, sorry about that. Another reason. 156 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,600 No, you're good. It's not your fault, it's just 157 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,559 Chicago man. Chicago has worst Wi-Fi in 158 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Portugal, you know, it is what it is. 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,640 They call us your pores. But Germany is doing pretty good 160 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,200 right now. I'm in 20,000 person village and 161 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,120 actually I think 9000 village. I'm in 13,000 village next door. 162 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,240 But let me tell you, Meadow, the beer over here, that vice beer. 163 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:01,800 Yeah, it's muscle. Actually. 164 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,080 Can we? It's muscle. 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Is yes. Is the audio working now? 166 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,600 Hold on, I got to get Tyler on spaces one second. 167 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,000 We have like 600 people on YouTube, but let me one second 168 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,680 Youtubers or broadcasters on, you know, if yeah, maybe there's 169 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,600 a space to come back. I mean, mad we can get to what? 170 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,840 What are you saying, Tommy? Well, I was going to, I was 171 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,040 going to say. One second, everyone on Twitter 172 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,440 Spaces. If you're on Twitter Spaces, 173 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,120 give us a second. We're fixing our issues. 174 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,080 I'm back if you want to let me. He's back. 175 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,240 OK, you're back. You're you're on stage. 176 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,200 You want to unmute all. Right. 177 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,480 There you go. Test, Test. 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,600 Yeah, we're back. We're back. 179 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,720 OK, We're back, Mando. I was going to say you had some 180 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,040 big news over the weekend. We should probably come back and 181 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,360 take a moment to appreciate your big news. 182 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,960 That was the biggest news of the weekend, right? 183 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,920 For Rogue finally got in gaze. He finally did it in a shop to 184 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,160 literally absolutely no one who's known for Rogue for the 185 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,440 last few years. He got engaged to Vanessa. 186 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,960 So Congrats for that. You kind of broke the Internet 187 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 and then you got ratioed by Greg and the process, which I thought 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,920 was hilarious. And then I got ratioed again. 189 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,360 So like the engagement posts were like 200,000 views and I 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,280 got ratioed 2X. And then I suppose I got ratioed 191 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,560 to ratioed me again. So I don't want algorithm Greg 192 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,160 Crack, but thank you. Thank you. 193 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,720 It was special. I, I went to Esveda, which is an 194 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,200 island that apparently is the third largest magnetic field in 195 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,880 the world, which is pretty sick. And I went on a paddle board, 196 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,520 mind you, with the ring. My grandfather proposed to my 197 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,640 grandmother with 1956 in my pocket. 198 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Don't ask me why. This is my risk tolerance. 199 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,960 It's a crypto bro. And so I think the thing, but 200 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,720 what's funny is when she got up with the paddle board, she fell, 201 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,600 then she got back on, then she got back up again. 202 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,320 And as I put her knee up, it proposed. 203 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,240 We both fell. But thankfully I managed to get 204 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,960 a yes and a ring on before we fell. 205 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,400 I got a video, I'll post it. But yeah, it was it was a hard. 206 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,880 Time, you know, I mean, I cannot imagine a more stressful way to 207 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,000 propose than paddle boarding like. 208 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,480 I, I I should have done it. We had I like. 209 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 What were you doing? Like that just sounds like 210 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,960 you're gonna lose the ring whatever happens. 211 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Like oh Oh yeah, I lost the ring because we went paddle boarding. 212 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,040 I should have done it on the boat. 213 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,920 I feel like being redacted and I did that, and maybe I was a 214 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,400 little drunk because I was really stressed out. 215 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,600 I have to die. Something proposing is the most 216 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,880 terrifying thing I've done my whole life. 217 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Yeah, it is scary. Right, right. 218 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,640 You guys have been there before. Am I the only one? 219 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,960 Like, it's scary. It is I. 220 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Guess it's scary. Yeah, I was so scared. 221 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Like in the moments beforehand, I wasn't. 222 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,840 I kind of didn't. And then then the moments 223 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,240 beforehand, it's scary drunk paddle boarding with, with the 224 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,040 ring in my pocket. Like I, I couldn't have done 225 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,440 that, man. Like that is the scariest thing 226 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,120 is like the like getting the ring in position and like making 227 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,240 sure that they don't see and all this sort of stuff. 228 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Like I, I, I don't know what the hell you're doing. 229 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,080 I don't know. I don't know what took me, but I 230 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,360 did that and it worked. At least it worked everywhere. 231 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,480 Everybody's fine. We didn't see phrase. 232 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Daddy was filming. I was like Daddy take a photo of 233 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,360 us so that he did the whole thing so so we did it. 234 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,760 So thank you very much. It was it was fun. 235 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,040 It was special time. Now Keith you Benny everybody 236 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Hannah can stop texting me every week to tell remind me to get 237 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,640 engaged. I did it side of the way get 238 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,960 back to work. It's a lot of work but anyways 239 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 back to Bitcoin Nashville was the second biggest news of the 240 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,160 weekend after my engagement. Of course we're talking about 241 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,120 this Tyler Amando was saying that he agrees with you on your 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,240 point you made. But quick thing for me, the 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,960 biggest take away apart from the for it's worth someone. 244 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,720 I thought the speech speech was kind of OK. 245 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,160 He's quite a comedian. The headlines were bangers. 246 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,920 The Bitcoin reserve will keep the Bitcoin the big headlines. 247 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,240 And I even told Danny I said we're going to pop like fucking 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 crazy on Monday when Tratfi gets the speeches. 249 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,800 For me, the highlight was the Venexeo saying that he owns 30% 250 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,000 of his net worth in Bitcoin. It was Cantor committing 3, two 251 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,200 or $3 billion to Bitcoin, and it was Cynthia Loomis, Senator 252 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Cynthia Loomis talking about a bill. 253 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,160 I mean, Tyler, what else? What else did you feel when you 254 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,440 were out there? Like how was it being there? 255 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,520 Yeah, I think that was my other surprise was the number of CEOs 256 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,800 and companies that were announcing either big personal 257 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,360 positions or IT on or Bitcoin on their balance sheets. 258 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,160 They would show up between, between speakers and it was just 259 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,960 like a new company or a new CEO every time. 260 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,120 So like we're not talking about like two or three. 261 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,480 I think like we're talking about a dozen or, or perhaps dozens 262 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,400 now that are starting to, to come out and, and announce 263 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,760 these, these core holdings. So even if the, the US strategic 264 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,640 reserve policy doesn't happen or if it takes years to happen, it 265 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,200 seems like the, the corporate buying and and more high net 266 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,480 worth individual buying is, is on an uptick and that doesn't, I 267 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,720 don't think that's going to slow down. 268 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,520 And I think the other the, the Trump from his speech was never 269 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 sell your Bitcoin. That that was on the headlines 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,600 on CNBC this morning. Like when they were talking 271 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,440 about the commerce, like that was the tag under it. 272 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,240 And I and those are good signals, right? 273 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Like for, for folks who, who, who don't know much about the 274 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 space and just are wondering. It's like those are the things 275 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,400 that kind of creeping in the back of of people's minds. 276 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:36,400 The the sailor speech was like one of the Wilder I've ever been 277 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:42,000 to personally, I think handsome. This guy must have done 100 278 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,560 lines of coke before he made this slide. 279 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Like this slide was unbelievable. 280 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,880 I've got it. So his bare case for 2045 is 281 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,040 $3,000,000 Bitcoin cap. His base case is 13 million 282 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,120 Bitcoin and then 280 trillion. So that's a 280X from here 283 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,880 basically. And then his bull case is 1000 284 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,480 trillion, which is basically A-1000X from here by 2045. 285 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,840 And he basically, you know, he had a slide deck, the whole 286 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,280 thing was to a slide deck. He was talking about basically 287 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,560 like 55% annualized returns. And then he, he laid out, you 288 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,440 know, how it, Bitcoin is a more, it's just a stronger currency or 289 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,600 investable asset than just about everything else in the world. 290 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,920 And the, and the time and his durability and then he basically 291 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,480 laid out investing, investing strategies for, for people, for 292 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,480 businesses, larger corporate, larger corporations as well as 293 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,400 nation States and then the US. And he did it with like like a, 294 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,520 a normie approach, a somewhat bullish approach. 295 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:54,640 And then like the chat approach. And I mean, he gave actionable 296 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,200 steps. And I will say, like when you 297 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,200 listen to it live, it's like, shit, I need more Bitcoin. 298 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,160 So the propaganda works. I'm wearing the propaganda hat 299 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,360 like this is from the. I. 300 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,080 I missed the Hodel hat. I really wanted the Hodel hat. 301 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,240 I settled for for this one. I'm sure we can get you one, but 302 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,960 I'm sure we could have raised to get you a Hodel hat. 303 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,480 I mean, Tyler, do you think that big coins going to hit $49 304 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:26,680 million per coin in 2045? I mean, I'm under on on 49 305 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,560 million. I think there's probably some 306 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,640 equity in the in the under. But I was thinking, I mean, if 307 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,080 you think there's any small chance that even his bear case 308 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,560 is right, like you have to allocate some to this like. 309 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,400 I mean, I'm all for it. I mean, bad though. 310 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,320 What do you, what do you think of sailors predictions here? 311 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,720 I mean, they're pretty big. Look, when when the biggest 312 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,040 holder of of Bitcoin tells you it's going to whatever it were 313 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,240 like 3 million in a in a base case and 45 million in the bull 314 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,960 case, I think he's got bags to talk about. 315 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,400 But I, I do think that I do think this was a bit of a game 316 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,640 changer Weekender. I think there was obviously some 317 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,560 positioning into it and that's been revealed in some of the 318 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,359 futures data. But I couldn't think of a more 319 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,920 bullish weekend worth of headlines, if I'm honest, Super 320 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,520 Bowl. And it wasn't just it wasn't 321 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,280 just that as well. Also, you've seen Kamala move to 322 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,600 potentially softening her policy with respect to crypto. 323 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,680 There's a lot of headlines coming out of the of the 324 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Financial Times and also CNBC around that. 325 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,320 So it feels as though you could have also the Democrats moving 326 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,320 to to try and be pro Bitcoin, probably to kind of see off how 327 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,280 pro, pro crypto Trump has been. So in general, everyone in 328 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,120 politics is behind Bitcoin. That's super, super bullish for 329 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:53,880 me. If they get a Bitcoin strategic 330 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,440 reserve, that is, That is truly wild in terms of the numbers 331 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,320 that you can start talking about. 332 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,000 And it's not just them. You know, I said. 333 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,640 I put this back yesterday. Imagine Germany right now. 334 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,880 Oh, I am here. I I I had a chat with some 335 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Germans earlier. Because you have, you have 336 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,400 suddenly Trump is going to is going to FOMO all of the G20 337 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,600 into buying into buying Bitcoin And they, they had a nice little 338 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,680 bag that they could have sat on. But if if the Fed or or if it 339 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,600 becomes government policy to buy Bitcoin that this has become a 340 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,920 lot of countries government policy I think to buy Bitcoin as 341 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,680 well. And it was a free bag because 342 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,800 they literally took it over. It's a free bag. 343 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,040 They took it from a company called Movie 2 Ki Wish I could 344 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,080 take over someone's 42,000 Bitcoin. 345 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,680 It's a this is a thing for me. I think it also, it doesn't just 346 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,360 change the game for the US, it changes the game globally and 347 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,440 for corporates as well, you know, all this sort of stuff. 348 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,640 If. If the, if the. 349 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,800 US has a global big has a Bitcoin reserve. 350 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,720 Suddenly a bunch of Fortune 500 companies and some of the 351 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,680 biggest companies around the world will probably think, well, 352 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,640 if it's good enough for the Fed and the US government, then why 353 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,560 not me? You've already seen that with a 354 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,680 bunch of pension funds, but I think it can go very broad. 355 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Yeah, that is that is definitely a huge take away. 356 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,560 One other thing Tyler, we got to hear the story of airplane GCR. 357 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,000 Dude, you were killing me. I I have to say you made my 358 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,960 weekend on Saturday night. I had a few drinks and I was I 359 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 was I was waiting for Trump to come on. 360 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,880 He was delayed on top of that and you were tweeting like a 361 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,600 madman saying ELO's jets is directly we are live. 362 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,360 And then he goes need to start descending. 363 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,120 And then Tyler goes breaking news. 364 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,720 Elon Musk's jet is descending and I was here. 365 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,160 I was crying, laughing. I swear to God. 366 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,040 I mean, tell us more about this, about your, your, your roller 367 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,600 coaster of emotions there. Yeah, so this is kind of a long 368 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,120 story, but so I was actually on the the no side of this bet on 369 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,360 on. I even went on my show and 370 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,520 touted the play. People would bet Elon up to like 371 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,040 30% because his jet was in Memphis on Monday. 372 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,560 And I was like that that's nonsense. 373 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,680 And I don't think this guy's really going to speak. 374 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,920 But then Thursday I'm, I'm going home from the liquidium event. 375 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,680 I'm going to another event in Nashville, boots on the ground. 376 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,560 And my Uber driver says that she had picked someone up yesterday 377 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,640 that says Elon is the surprise speaker at, at this conference. 378 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,600 And I grilled her. I, I asked her the question like 379 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,960 five or seven different ways. Like who was this person? 380 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Do they look like they were official? 381 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,680 Like, Are you sure that they said Elon? 382 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,520 And like at the end of this 30 minute ride convinced. 383 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,920 So we we, we, we switched destinations. 384 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,480 We went back to the hotel. I got the Ledger out. 385 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600 I sold my no shares at 93 cents. I got in around 80. 386 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,720 So I made a little 20% flipped yes at 7 cents. 700 bucks to win 387 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,480 10K. What was the bet? 388 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,840 And then started tracking his jet. 389 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,400 So I found the Instagram account where you could find kind of 390 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:07,560 more static information Friday he I'm like, OK, that's fine as 391 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 long as he leaves by Saturday morning. 392 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,200 So it was still pretty low odds it was going to be him Friday 393 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,280 night, wake up first thing Saturday, check my phone first 394 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,880 thing I check his Instagram, his jet page. 395 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 He's taken off. So he left Paris in enough time 396 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,920 to make it so I'm like, we are we are alive here for Elon. 397 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,120 Start tracking the plane. It gets in the US as I'm headed, 398 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,400 you know, starting to head to the airport myself. 399 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,280 And then he lands in New York. God. 400 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:47,920 And Tyler's gone again, dude, Man, how funny is that, bro? 401 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Were you? Were you tracking Tyler? 402 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,760 He was killing me bro. I. 403 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,400 I was tracking it but I was a little bit confused, like who 404 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,560 was the special guest? There was no special guest. 405 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,200 I love you. OK all. 406 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Right. We're, we're, we're back. 407 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,560 We're back. There was no special guest 408 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,080 though, right? There was no special guest. 409 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,320 Like everybody and their mothers. 410 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,640 Mothers were tweeted about special guest. 411 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,680 There's no special guest. So that's what made it more 412 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,720 interesting. So he lived in New York and then 413 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,080 like I, I kind of stopped checking for an hour or so and 414 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,720 then I got pinged a butt like, oh, he's taken back off and I 415 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,480 see the flight path that is looking direct to Nashville. 416 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,720 And then at the same time, apparently they had, they had 417 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,040 made this, they had announced somewhere at Bitcoin Nashville 418 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,640 that there was a guest speaker. So now there's this like, you 419 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,800 know, full like people are, are really starting to bet this 420 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,080 thing up. It's up to like 15 or 20% on 421 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Polymarket. I'm I'm following the jet 422 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,600 tracker live. I've got like a new updated link 423 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,280 from from a buddy and then like he's getting a little too close 424 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,960 to Nashville like he's going to have to turn and start 425 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,720 descending and then they finally start descending pin timeline. 426 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,920 You know, we see the bet jump up to to 30 cents or something. 427 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:04,080 Oh, I didn't mention when I'm when I flipped, yes, there was 428 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:07,120 like $25,000 in action on this bet. 429 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,640 If I close there was 1.6 million. 430 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,880 So this this is not being an insanely bad line. 431 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Wait, did you 'cause that? Like I, I can't confirm or deny 432 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,880 that he starts descending, but then Long story short, he goes 433 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,520 like, oh God, we're we're dead. I think we're totally dead. 434 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,800 But then Eleanor Tourette sweets out. 435 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,520 She's got he was never on the jet anyways. 436 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,400 He was secretly in Nashville the whole time. 437 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,240 The bet spikes back up to 30 cents one more time and like, we 438 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,880 were alive again. But then like, basically the 439 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,440 event plays out. No special speaker even came 440 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,480 out. So I I've got a lot of 441 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,920 questions. Like, I really wonder, like, 442 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,080 were they in talks with him? And like, he was like actually 443 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,040 had like a chance to maybe come and then like changed his mind 444 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,440 because there was there was Elon rumors the entire week. 445 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Yeah. And then it feels like he was 446 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,680 just trolling us with even with his jetpack. 447 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,960 I feel like he sent his jet above that was fuck with y'all. 448 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,040 I swear to God that some shit Elon would do. 449 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Like I he's rich enough. What's 10 grand to him? 450 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,920 What's 20 grand to him? You know, so actually actually 451 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,920 New York, Paris is like 50K drive, right? 452 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,800 So what what's 50 grand to him? You know, so that that's pretty 453 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,920 funny ANYWAYS, you honestly, you honestly killed me, dude. 454 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Airplane GCR, that's what we're calling you now. 455 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160 I thought that was the funniest thing this weekend. 456 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,120 Mando just quickly before before we get to Tyler and then we have 457 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,440 Julia Hogan in the in the in the studio already. 458 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,120 Mando, how are you feeling about this market right now? 459 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,520 I mean market's hot. We're so back. 460 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,360 You've been saying you've been feeling bullish all around, up 461 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:51,720 and down 55 K been bullish. I mean, how are you feeling 462 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,960 today? We're looking good. 463 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,880 Yeah, we're looking good. Obviously. 464 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,280 I think, you know, I'm less bullish now than I was at like 465 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,920 55 K like we've had. We've had a very aggressive move 466 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,400 back. So it's, it's more difficult, I 467 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,440 think to like FOMO into a buy here. 468 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,800 This is the prime example. Like if you're, if you're a 469 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,800 trend follower or if you're a chartist, like you're probably 470 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,440 telling you to buy it here. And for me, I feel like you have 471 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,880 to feel a little bit like, well, you know, we've really ripped 472 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,240 back. I do think it surprised me that 473 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,800 we haven't gone higher on the back of these like crazy bullish 474 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800 headlines. But I, you know, I think we can, 475 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,560 we can hit an all time high in potentially in Bitcoin and 476 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,640 Solana, you know, in the next couple of weeks. 477 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,200 In my opinion, I think, I think that's not out of the question. 478 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,880 We're looking really good. What? 479 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,600 What's up with all this? Like what's up with all this BIM 480 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640 cornery on the timeline? I mean, you, you've been, you've 481 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,120 been buying these new coins or what? 482 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,280 What's going on? No Obi's been fo moving into a 483 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,920 lot of them. Right. 484 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,560 Obi is all over the place bro. Motherfucker's tweeting like 485 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:09,160 17,000,000 times a day. He's definitely gotten big into 486 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,800 it. Yeah. 487 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Look, I think it's been difficult. 488 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,160 I think a lot of people mid, I feel like we're now like mid 489 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,200 cycle, mid to late cycle and I think I actually think you can 490 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600 lose a lot of money from here. But I put that on the timeline 491 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,400 of the weekend, you know, stole went from 1:20 to 190 just now. 492 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,640 How many people do you think would like would have just done 493 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,720 better if they just done that? I do think it's a dangerous bit 494 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,640 of the cycle. That's basically what I think 495 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:46,960 because I think I don't see I don't see a clear soul beta play 496 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:51,960 and I think it's very PvP each day, even like up until the 497 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,200 first bit of the cycle, I felt like whiff was such an obvious 498 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,480 Solana beta play. And now I feel like there's so 499 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,560 many means that it's more you can be both on them for like a 500 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,480 week or two, but then there's just so much temptation if 501 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320 you're a big holder of any mean to just to just plow it into a 502 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,000 new coin or a hot thing each week that it's just really 503 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,480 dangerous. So I think it's a dangerous bit 504 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,160 of the market where people and you saw that, you know, it was 505 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,440 crazy for me to log on to CT the day because, you know, I slept 506 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,640 over the Trump speech. So I woke up the next day, I saw 507 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,840 all the Trump headlines and the thing that people were fighting 508 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,760 about was this Nero coin. And I was like, wow, like that 509 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,160 is wild that that is the main thing that people are talking 510 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,000 about rather than what Trump was saying or how bullish the 511 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,520 sentiment was for Bitcoin national. 512 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,160 So I would just, I would just be wary. 513 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,600 I think, I think we're going a lot higher, but I think people, 514 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000 a lot of people will not make money or although that they'll 515 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360 they're going to try and overcomplicate the trade. 516 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Yeah, that's definitely what it looks like. 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,160 I mean, just right before I'm going to bring Julian up now, 518 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,200 but Tyler, did you get involved into this whole into this whole 519 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,720 craziness of Nero on the timeline or were you too busy in 520 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Nashville? I I just, I missed the first 521 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,960 run. It was already like 20 to 30 522 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,320 million when I really saw it. And I thought chasing those 523 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,120 spots is just so risky. And it ran to like 90 million 524 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:24,560 and then. No. 525 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,800 Did I lose Tyler again? No way. 526 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,360 Did I lose Tyler again? What's going on with the Wi-Fi 527 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:38,960 Nash in in Chicago? We lost you again we lost Tyler 528 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,640 again This is crazy hey hold up. I don't know what's going on 529 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760 with the Wi-Fi in Chicago, but I lost Tyler again. 530 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,520 Y'all, you just come on the on the stream you're going to get 531 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,120 you're going to get me and Julian chatting because I oh 532 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,640 there he is there he is there he's back Tyler, you got it. 533 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,160 We got a call. We got a call fucking. 534 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,480 We got over. There, Yeah, we got. 535 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,880 We got to get the one off that fixed. 536 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,880 Don't this, this never happens. What the Hell's going on? 537 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,200 This never. Happened. 538 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Yeah, well, we missed Nero, Long story short. 539 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,400 And then the Yoji dog owner came out and said we don't endorse 540 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,840 this week, we only endorsed Doge. 541 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680 And then like people started fighting over which is the real 542 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 one. Caused like tons of turmoil and 543 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,640 tons of volume. There's they're on ETH now 544 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800 they're on Solana now. I, I haven't been tracking 545 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,360 closely to know the real one. I feel like whenever there's 546 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,760 multiple coins tied to an idea or a ticker, it's bad. 547 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,920 It's not bad for all of them. So I, I, I stayed, stayed away. 548 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,760 I'm March 6th. Yeah, I I'm safe. 549 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,200 I know Ovi. I think Ovi bought both. 550 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720 So he's just he's like, fuck it, I just wait. 551 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240 I I got no, I got my wife back. I'll go my mock bag. 552 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320 I got my Pepe bag. I got a Solana bag. 553 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280 I'm done this cycle. I'm just chilling at at work. 554 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,320 But anyways, listen, we'll keep we'll keep some of the big 555 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,720 topics for tomorrow. We've got we've got Julian Hogan 556 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 in the house, Julian doodle CEO. How you doing baby? 557 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280 What's up, Baroque? How you doing, man? 558 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Well, actually, I think Congrats are in order. 559 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Yeah, Engagement, man. Good for you, bro. 560 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800 I'm happy for you. Thank you. 561 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,880 It was about time. It was about time 1 less thing 562 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,760 to worry about, you know, I it was, it was starting to put a 563 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,480 lot of pressure on my back, you know? 564 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Yeah, but but good. Good thing the bags are up now. 565 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,800 I saw the the ring look nice. Dude, you did good. 566 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,960 You did good. Thank you, thank you. 567 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,240 I think we did a good job, you know. 568 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,960 Ironically, she was asking Danny's girlfriend on the same 569 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,160 day. When do you think it's going to 570 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,600 happen? Like I've been waiting for four 571 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,960 years. I swear to God, Annabelle tells 572 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,200 me this. I'm like, oh shit. 573 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,600 So you know, so you know, I think, I think we ended up doing 574 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,960 good. But Julie, listen, every day I 575 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,560 come on this show, Tyler's got his top 100 and every day 576 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,720 doodles are in the conversation. You know, you guys doodles, TV 577 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,760 doodles this, doodles that. I mean, you guys, I mean, Tyler 578 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,040 keeps talking about y'all about how you guys are cooking. 579 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,520 Let's get the CEO back on the show. 580 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,920 You've been on a few times with Julia. 581 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080 You've been cooking lately. I mean, how you been? 582 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,560 I'm good, man, I'm good. It's it's a big summer, really 583 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,160 big summer. I feel like everything we've 584 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960 been working towards the last couple years is leading to this 585 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,800 moment and it's kind of it's a surreal feeling, I'm not going 586 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720 to lie. Like it's it's here, you know, 587 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,880 like the at bat, like we're we're really ready to take this 588 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,240 big swing and I don't know, you got a little little nervous, 589 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,920 little excited, little anxious, little everything. 590 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,440 But it's it's fun. I feel alive. 591 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320 I'll tell you that much. I love that. 592 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,560 I love that. Well, listen, Joe, we got a 593 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,400 couple questions for you. I'm gonna let, I'm gonna let 594 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,640 Tyler take over here because we definitely have some stuff to 595 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,400 ask you. We love the stuff you've been 596 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,880 at. We've been at it, Mandel. 597 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,960 Tyler, I talk about it a lot. So I think it's really cool. 598 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Tyler, I'll give it to you. Yeah, Julian, I feel like the 599 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000 last time we were chatting it was all Doodlesville and the 600 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,280 Doodles verse. And now like the the big news 601 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,160 from the last weekend, I saw some news broke this morning as 602 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,000 well. But Doodles TV. 603 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040 So you know, I read about it. We talked about it on the show. 604 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,920 I'd love just to hear from from you first hand. 605 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,320 Like what is it? Why did you decide to launch 606 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,160 this product? Yeah, man, it's it's been the 607 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,920 whole idea around doodles has always been to create a new 608 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,400 paradigm for bringing IP to market and a paradigm that does 609 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,000 not solely rely on the traditional means of 610 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,920 distribution and monetization and engagement, because it's 611 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,120 really hard to develop IP that way. 612 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560 If you think of just anecdotally, the things that 613 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,880 perform on television, the things that perform at the box 614 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,040 office, like a lot of it is adaptations, remakes, sequels, 615 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,320 those are the only things that really do well. 616 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,200 And it's because the studios are prioritizing them in a way that 617 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 really kind of leans into where the network effects of our world 618 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,200 are, right? Like people are on social media 619 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 right now. To get people off of social 620 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,320 media, it takes a lot. So to invest millions of dollars 621 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,320 in a new franchise and then to try and market that new 622 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,040 franchise to people that are spending most of their time on 623 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,760 social to get them off their couch and into a movie theater 624 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,960 or to get them to tune into a streaming service. 625 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,480 It's really hard to do that. So the studios and all of these 626 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,800 other platforms are basically re upping their investment in 627 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,960 adaptations, right? Like a New Super Mario movie, a 628 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Barbie movie, you know, a Ghostbusters remake, a new 629 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,200 Garfield movie, more Marvel movies, more Adventure Time 630 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,120 shows, etcetera. And what it's done is kind of 631 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,560 squeezed out the mid level creator, the artist that used to 632 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,640 make a living getting their shows made on Cartoon Network. 633 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840 Like it's just getting harder and harder to launch new IP. 634 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,920 So we believe PFP projects are a really unique way to bring new 635 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,040 IP to market and create sustainable growth 636 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,920 opportunities. But it's not launch PFP, put 637 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,360 everything on YouTube, put everything on Spotify. 638 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Like launch the PFP project, start building the community, 639 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,640 start building a culture, start building a vibe. 640 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,679 And then when you're ready to, and in our case, entertainment, 641 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,840 when you're ready to bring that IP to the world, don't just give 642 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,800 YouTube and Spotify all your content for free. 643 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,920 Own the moment with your community. 644 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,880 If people want to be part of that moment, make them pay for 645 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560 it. And then once you've had that 646 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,960 moment with your community, bring it to the world. 647 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,280 Still utilize YouTube because there is built in network 648 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560 effects there. Still utilize Spotify because 649 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,639 that's where the majority of content consumption happens, but 650 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,880 there are other ways to really bring a core fan base together 651 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,600 in an environment that you own. Think of like stand up comedy 652 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,960 right now. They're doing it in a really 653 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960 incredible way. Like I, I'm sure you guys are 654 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,520 familiar with Andrew Schultz, but he actually bought his 655 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,199 special back from Netflix and instead of putting, yeah, so he 656 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,680 he was supposed to go live on Netflix, he bought the special 657 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,760 back, put it on Moment House and sold early access viewing to the 658 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,680 special on a direct to consumer platform and made more money and 659 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,240 recouped all that money that he was making from Netflix, 660 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:14,320 licensing it exclusively. And in this scenario, he doesn't 661 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960 sacrifice the direct relationship with his audience 662 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,000 and he makes more money than he would have made otherwise. 663 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,200 And he still gets to put the content on YouTube later on down 664 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200 the road. For us, we think that's a really 665 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,760 interesting format, especially when you tie it to digital 666 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,040 collectibles that can kind of commemorate the moment. 667 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,160 So all of our album art isn't pen, it's not like paper. 668 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200 It's actually NF TS. All of the posters, they're NF 669 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,840 TS. And we have this collecting 670 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,120 platform in the studio, which Doodles TV is ultimately a 671 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,920 feature of, where not only do you get to be first to watch the 672 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,960 content, you get to literally be in the know before anybody else. 673 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,640 And by the way, like being first is valuable in our society, 674 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,640 right? Like knowing what other people 675 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,640 don't, being first to things, that's social currency. 676 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,240 People really care a lot about that. 677 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,240 People are willing to pay for that, even though our original 678 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,880 collection holders aren't going to have to. 679 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,960 But social currency is what we all compete for every single 680 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680 day. The only thing that we thought 681 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,560 would drive people truly into our platform and into the studio 682 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,320 platform that we're building is content that people really cared 683 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,040 about. Creators have that, doodles now 684 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,320 have that. So we think we're building a new 685 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,360 platform for IP development, the creator economy, it's all built 686 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,760 on chain. It brings people into the rest 687 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,360 of our collecting loop. And it ultimately creates an 688 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,800 opportunity for us to control our own destiny before we bring 689 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,280 it to the wide distribution platforms that pretty much 690 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,200 control all the time and attention of our of our society. 691 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,480 So that's, that's kind of the background for it. 692 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,920 And there's, there's obviously a lot more and talk about it all 693 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,280 day, but that's the high level. Yeah, man, it's an incredible 694 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,720 idea. I am curious to me technically, 695 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,960 you know, you mentioned the ability, like some of the types 696 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,960 of content that will be created. I like that the album covers, 697 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,880 the singles. Like will there be the ability 698 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,400 to to collect directly through Doodles TV? 699 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,080 Like what will the collecting experience like, look like as a 700 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,440 part of this product? Yeah, yeah. 701 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,960 So imagine like so tomorrow we're actually launching kind of 702 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,800 a season pass for Doodles TV. Think of it like, you know, if 703 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,160 you're going to buy tickets to Coachella, you can buy the three 704 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,520 day pass or you can ultimately buy individual single day passes 705 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,000 depending on if you like one lineup better than the others. 706 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480 But tomorrow we're launching something called the Super Pass. 707 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160 We're doing, we're doing the Mint in partnership with 708 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,200 Coinbase. And what the Super Pass is going 709 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,280 to get you is ultimately access to every single Doodles TV 710 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,760 release. So that's all three music videos 711 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,400 and records and it's early access to our film Dollsville 712 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,800 and the Doodleburst. And each drop is coming with its 713 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,960 own kind of varying rarity artwork. 714 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,800 So instead of like look at it like collecting album art. 715 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,360 And if you look at like the old Kanye album covers and Nirvana 716 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,520 album covers, like people that still have those CDs in mint 717 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,920 condition, they like, they love that they they love that they 718 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,400 were able to collect those moments. 719 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,320 We look at this as kind of the same thing. 720 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,480 So when you actually have this pass, you're gonna be able to 721 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,920 collect the album art from each record and you're gonna be able 722 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,680 to collect different levels of movie posters for the actual 723 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,880 film itself. So they do come with kind of 724 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,640 these commemorative NF TS. And think about it like people 725 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,720 are going to see Deadpool and Wolverine this weekend in 726 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,480 theaters in America. I don't know if this is global, 727 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,520 but in theaters in America, they have this like custom, you know, 728 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,120 kind of limited edition collectible popcorn bucket 729 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,400 that's like Wolverine and Deadpool style. 730 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640 It's it's similar. People want their trinkets, they 731 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,840 want their stuff and they and they're, they're going to be 732 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,960 able to collect and display them within their Doodles Studio 733 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480 accounts. Yeah, I mean it. 734 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,920 I love it. I saw the the news this morning, 735 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,360 the the doodles records track list. 736 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,920 We we got some of the early ones right. 737 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,120 So maybe you want to so we got not in the store by Coy Larae, 738 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,680 Can't Hold me down by Lil tune, shy, Lil Yachty and then the 739 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,520 Pharrell song. They're coming out in the next 740 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:15,960 couple of months. So are these tied to the the 741 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,760 film or are these standalone? Yeah. 742 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,400 So I'll give you a little little background. 743 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,800 So basically this dates all the way back to when we first 744 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,040 started working with Pharrell. And we were like, Hey, we want 745 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,760 to make music. We want to make hits. 746 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,880 Like let's let's do some music, let's animate the videos, let's 747 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,880 do the whole thing. And, and he's like, and we're 748 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,360 like, you know, the story and the the film and TV content, all 749 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680 that stuff will come later. And he's like, look, if you're 750 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,000 asking me to do what I did for Despicable Me, I don't think I'm 751 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,360 going to be able to do that. Like when I did that, I knew who 752 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,880 was voicing Grew, which was Steve Carroll. 753 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520 I knew what that character was. I knew the setting. 754 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Like I knew everything about that story that I was ultimately 755 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,440 creating music for. You guys aren't ready for that. 756 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,160 And we were like, well, damn. OK. 757 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,720 So so we got a little bit of work to do. 758 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,120 So we so we got to it. And that is kind of when all the 759 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,920 content development started. We acquired Golden Wolf. 760 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640 We brought Jesse Moynihan on board, who was one of the 761 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,200 writers. On Adventure Time and also the 762 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,000 art director for Midnight Gospel. 763 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,800 So we started building the world out. 764 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,440 We started building out the rules. 765 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,720 Then we got to the the script and, you know, the actual, you 766 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,320 know, dialogue between the characters. 767 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080 We started, you know, kind of building Haps character and 768 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,680 Melo's character and really put like a story behind, you know, 769 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,560 behind these behind these characters. 770 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,440 And we got to a point where we got a full animatic together and 771 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,640 we, we walked through it and Pharrell kind of like on the fly 772 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,120 was starting to come up with like beats and melodies that 773 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,400 really made sense for the particular scenes in the film. 774 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,400 And because the film is around 20 minutes, we, you know, we, we 775 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,600 thought there could be like 3, maybe 4 original songs tied to 776 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,120 it. So she basically put the beats 777 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,800 together, was completely hyped with the melody and everything 778 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,160 that, you know, kind of came to life that the the music actually 779 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,360 represents different parts of the film. 780 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,200 And then we started placing artists that we thought would 781 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,160 bring that vibe to each track because we wanted to release the 782 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,320 tracks as their own independent things that could that are 783 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,600 completely tied to the world, but also be distributed 784 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,320 separately for for people that, you know, don't even know what's 785 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,160 going on in the larger universe. So that's when we started having 786 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,160 conversations with artists. You know, they were all blown 787 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,920 away by the creative pretty much off the bat. 788 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,840 And, you know, some of these artists were, you know, kind of 789 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,480 grew up on cartoons. So this really, you know, this 790 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,720 really hit home for them. And then the songs just kind of 791 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,200 started coming together. We got in the studio, put the 792 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,520 records together. You know, every single step of 793 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,360 the pipeline, the music got better, the animated music 794 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,720 videos got better. And the, the videos themselves 795 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,320 are going to be released prior to the film and the music is 796 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,920 also going to be featured in the film. 797 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,440 And you're going to see how the film inspires the music videos 798 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,440 and how the music inspires the film. 799 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,200 It's going to be a pretty kind of like 360° immersive audio 800 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,560 visual experience. Like that's why we're not we're 801 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,000 this isn't a movie, this isn't an album. 802 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,480 This is all one crazy art, animation, music, visual 803 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,840 experience that rolls out over the course of several months. 804 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,360 Yeah, It seems just like one of the more incredible creative 805 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,800 products experiences that we've seen in all web three give you 806 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,920 the credit for that. I'm curious. 807 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,960 So working with Pharrell seems like kind of a dream. 808 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,560 I don't know. I feel like it would be a dream 809 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,520 for me. I'm curious if any other like if 810 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,360 you had any other like surprises or big lessons takeaways for 811 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,600 from from working with him or else like any other like roles 812 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,720 or impacts he's had on the project? 813 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,640 Doodles TV was a big like he, he had a, like, he kind of pushed 814 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,640 us to, to go there and we were, we were just going to put the 815 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,440 music out on Spotify and, and YouTube and we were just, you 816 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,120 know, we were going to do it the traditional way because we, what 817 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,440 have we been selling people around Doodles this whole time? 818 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,320 Like mass adoption, mass adoption, you know, bring people 819 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,840 in. And those are the platforms 820 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,240 where people are right now. Meet the consumer where they 821 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,640 are. And you know, he kind of showed 822 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,520 us or convinced us that they're not mutually exclusive. 823 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,920 You can own the moment and make sure your community feels like 824 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,800 they're part of something and charge people to be part of that 825 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400 moment because moments like are fleeting right now. 826 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,680 Like what happened a week ago feels like it happened a year 827 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,840 ago. So just the, the, the way we're 828 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,920 wired as a culture is changing and doodles TV as a way to 829 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:01,640 monetize content further than just collecting ad revenue on 830 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,680 YouTube or getting brand partnership deals or selling 831 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,640 merchandise was, you know, I guess the point that I'm trying 832 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,400 to make is that his business mind is just as powerful as his 833 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,360 creative mind. And you know, I like to kind of 834 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,560 just point out there's three movies he's doing this year. 835 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,360 One is Despicable Me 4, which is about to hit $700 million at the 836 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040 global box office. The other is. 837 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,880 Wild. Yeah. 838 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,760 The other is his biopic that he's doing with Lego. 839 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,560 And then the third is is US. And, and it's, it's pretty 840 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,760 remarkable that he's so leaned in to the art and what we're 841 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,640 doing from a technology perspective. 842 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520 It's been a dream come true getting a partner with all these 843 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,000 artists. It's, it's been, I've worked 844 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,360 with a lot of, you know, celebs and artists in my career, but 845 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,840 making the art, making the music is, is a new one for me. 846 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,160 And it's, it's pretty, it's been, it's been remarkable. 847 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,520 Dude you're fucking crushing it even even I I open my timer. 848 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,360 Even Beanie is Boo posting doodles 3 minutes ago. 849 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,000 Look at that Tyler, you got this is rapper on board done right? 850 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,720 Very rare, very rare. I mean, you guys are cooking. 851 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,640 Let me ask you something. I mean, tied to this because we 852 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,880 talked about being last week because he was buying a bunch of 853 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,800 doodles on the show. So we were talking. 854 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,320 So what does what does all this mean for the doodles NFT itself? 855 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,320 Because you mentioned that right? 856 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,080 You said the NFT that's how it started. 857 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,720 You guys told the NFTS. We've talked about this at 858 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,240 length in the past, like, So how does all this, you know, link 859 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,920 back to like how it all started? Yeah, Look like the the 860 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,840 technology is ultimately going to be where people actually see 861 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,440 the value accrue to the different collections with the 862 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,280 original collection being the grail of our ecosystem. 863 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,760 And I personally don't think it's quite as simple as like Rev 864 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,120 share on products like that can change at any point. 865 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,040 But if you build and in if you build a gamified entertainment 866 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,920 experience where people get rewarded for their participation 867 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,280 in your brand, that we believe is sustainable and we believe it 868 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,840 can scale. So what does that mean right 869 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,480 now? Think about the way like you're 870 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,760 a everybody's a fan of something. 871 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,920 All three of us are a fan of something, whether it's a sports 872 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,040 franchise, whether it's a musician, whether it's a film 873 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,200 franchise, whatever it is, the experience you have is purely a 874 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,960 passive, consumer focused experience. 875 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:37,040 You go to the movies, you go to the games, you buy the merch, 876 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,400 you do all of the things you do by being a fan. 877 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:44,840 That company, that franchise, that IP owner has no clue who 878 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,520 you are. They don't know all the 879 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,840 different touch points that you're engaging in. 880 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,480 And because of that, they don't actually have a way for 881 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,520 rewarding your loyalty. And because of that, that we 882 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,640 think that there's a broken, or maybe it's not broken, maybe 883 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,480 it's just the status quo, but there's a major opportunity to 884 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,480 bring the communities of these IPS and the IP owner itself 885 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,400 closer together. And if we do our job right, the 886 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,480 two things kind of become one in the same. 887 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,200 So if you buy our merch, if you share our content via our tools 888 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,840 that we're building in the studio, if you show up at our 889 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,280 events, if you buy our NFTS, if you trade our NFTS, whatever it 890 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,080 is, you should be able to earn things like points. 891 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,240 And those points should be able to be redeemed for things that 892 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,720 you actually care about. And what you hold in your wallet 893 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,560 should be amplifiers on those points. 894 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,120 So what we are building ultimately is an ecosystem where 895 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,560 we track all of your engagement. And we don't track it so we can 896 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,640 serve you ads. We track it so we can serve you 897 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,680 rewards. That's the goal. 898 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,680 So we started with the NFTS, we went down into media. 899 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,160 The platform is what's been being built in the background 900 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,760 and all of that engagement that people are creating around the 901 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,760 Doodles brand. We feel like we've rewarded 902 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,400 engagement through air drops through, you know, like trait 903 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,040 based redeemable merch claims through free tickets. 904 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,240 Like our event at the Toronto International Film Festival is a 905 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,680 holder exclusive. The only way you can get in is 906 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,240 if you have an original collection. 907 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,880 And by the way, like there's gonna be mad celebrities walking 908 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,480 the red carpet. It's a huge this. 909 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,160 Is a big deal, Toronto Huge, huge Film Festival, right? 910 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,080 Huge Film Festival. So we believe that we've 911 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,640 delivered, although it's kind of like one off analog, like 912 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,160 there's no real structure to it. What we are built building into 913 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,600 our software is structure to the rewards ecosystem. 914 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,400 And there's going to be more that gets announced on that. 915 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,800 But I think there's two ways to like to kind of close the loop 916 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,760 on that question. One, the bigger the brand gets 917 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,880 globally, the more people care about doodles, the more people 918 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,480 are going to know that that original collection is where it 919 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,880 all came from. And the people that own that 920 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,560 original collection are the ones that get the most likes on 921 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,880 Instagram. They're the ones that get the 922 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,080 most engagement on Twitter. Like that's a social club that 923 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,200 you're a part of that if you're a major fan and you want in more 924 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,480 like, I mean, it's kind of natural what happens from there. 925 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,960 And then the second part of it is we will actually be rewarding 926 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,240 participation in a very forecastable way for people that 927 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:34,200 are engaged in the ecosystem. So that that is really it for 928 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,480 us. Like we're I don't know if you 929 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,160 also saw but in the trailer and they don't know everything yet. 930 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,560 The a lot of the people that hold NFTS, like the actual 931 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:48,400 characters are in the film. So and like we built, yeah, we 932 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,480 built some of the personalities in the film and what they do in 933 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,480 the film around kind of how they engage on Twitter. 934 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,040 Like what? Like who does that? 935 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,680 You know, like Pixar movies aren't like taking their 936 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,360 hardcore community members and putting them in films with like 937 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,520 their personality written into the script. 938 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,440 Like that's that. That is what we believe makes a 939 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,000 special. That's what we believe makes 940 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,200 like. I like to say this line doodles 941 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,400 isn't ATV show. It isn't a movie franchise. 942 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,760 It's a community, it's culture. It's started on the Internet and 943 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,360 it's always on looking at us through a narrow lens of like 944 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,880 doodles is just movies or doodles is just TV or doodles is 945 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,760 just music is missing. Like what Internet native IP and 946 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,600 on chain IP actually is. So long winded answer, but I 947 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,920 think you I, I think you get what I was going for. 948 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,520 There No, it's it's a good answer. 949 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,640 We did we did mention on the show that you were using your 950 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,000 holders. You know, PFPS in that in that 951 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,080 Tyler, I'm gonna kick it to you. I think you got you got a last 952 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,000 question for for Julian here. Yeah, just a quick comment. 953 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,320 I, I think at least for me personally, I think everything 954 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,360 that you're doing with media is creating demand for, for the 955 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,200 NFTS. So if people ask that question, 956 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440 I mean, I can help answer it because I, I think it's working 957 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,880 actively. We're almost out of time. 958 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,360 You guys have been cooking non-stop this summer. 959 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,240 Any other surprises? Like what what's coming up next 960 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:13,200 summer's not, not over yet. So anything we got six weeks. 961 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,080 We got our bridge barring any our bridge from flow to base 962 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,240 hitting later today, barring any any tech complications. 963 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,720 So we'll have another tweet announcement going out later in 964 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:28,200 the day. We got our super pass minting 965 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,880 tomorrow with Coinbase. And then later this week, we 966 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,000 have a pretty big brand partnership announcement. 967 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,040 And then I don't know if you saw the leak last week, but we're 968 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,600 doing a little thing with Rubik's Cube. 969 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160 So we have a few major brand partnerships tied to the release 970 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,200 of this and we're making some some pretty fun stuff. 971 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,800 But yeah, I mean, there's basically going to be like one 972 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,600 or two major announcements or, or major releases every week 973 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,760 from now until probably the end of October. 974 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,720 And then there's more stuff after that. 975 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,120 But like, like, I guess The thing is, is like we've been 976 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,080 quiet and building for the last couple years and I don't think 977 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,240 we've been that quiet compared to most projects, but we've been 978 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:11,960 quieter than what is about to unfold. 979 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,920 Like the new normal is just going to be doodles all over the 980 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,800 timeline. So I'm excited for the community 981 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,320 to have their like moment. Finally. 982 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,320 We've taken a lot of fun and and we're ready for the spotlight 983 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,960 again. Doodles are loud. 984 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,600 Doodles may have been quiet. Now doodles are loud. 985 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,560 Like you, you're, you're dropping bombshell news on a 986 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,920 near weekly basis. So you you love to see it. 987 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,160 Well, doing this is fantastic. Thanks for coming on. 988 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,960 Hopefully we'll be on again, you know, in another month, in the 989 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,160 next couple bombshells are out in the head of Toronto. 990 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,880 Yeah, let's do it. It broke. 991 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,120 I mean, come on, bro, it's in Canada. 992 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,560 You got to come to the premiere. It's going to be. 993 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,920 Safe dude, I'm going to be create blockchain week. 994 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,320 Oh yeah, yeah, we that was tough planning for that for. 995 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,040 That I know I know I I if I was home, I would have come for 996 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,480 sure. It's something I really love. 997 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,840 I think it's super cool. Listen, you know, I'm a fan. 998 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,680 I'm a friend of yours and and I think what you're doing is 999 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,760 really fucking cool. So keep going fuck the fun and 1000 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,040 you know, keep keep making us proud on the NFT side because 1001 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,360 it's good to have you know, multiple projects now hammering 1002 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,520 out it's you guys, it's pudgy. We're seeing the apes rumble 1003 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,480 again. Azuki's having their anime chain 1004 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,160 coming up soon. Like it we're feeling, you know, 1005 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,000 we're starting to feel it. And as you know, so, so it's 1006 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,400 good. Congrats, Julian, and thank you 1007 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,240 for coming. Yeah, thank you, guys. 1008 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,400 Take it easy, man. You know, always big fans over 1009 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,560 here, so appreciate the time. Have a good one, brother. 1010 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,080 Thank you. Hell yeah. 1011 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,200 Well, Tyler, that was that was a great guest. 1012 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,880 I'm glad we finally managed to get Julian on the show to see 1013 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,880 this. So let's see what they've got 1014 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,480 coming up. Tyler, tomorrow you're on 1015 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,680 hosting duty with Mando. I'm going to be I'm going to be 1016 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,200 in the air fly back from from Germany here. 1017 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,280 I'm going to go and have a little talk with the German 1018 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,520 government and let them know that they fumble $600 million, 1019 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,840 you know, and that and that's about that. 1020 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,800 So anyways, Tyler have a good show tomorrow for the rest of 1021 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,200 the I'll see you Wednesday same time, same place for another 1022 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,120 episode of formal hour on rock radio. 1023 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,800 Let's.