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Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning. 
Good morning G MG deep Monday 

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Sept. 
Nope up. 

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Ohh it's not October anymore. 
It's racked up. 

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I guess mandate was right 
Monday. 

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Rector. 
Yeah. 

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Oh my God. 
Exactly right. 

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What am I calling it? 
I I promised myself. 

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You know, I said I'll call it 
October all month. 

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I'll stay true to my word. 
Monday, October 9th, 2023. 

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Look at that. 
Have a beautiful day. 

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I got one of my Co hosts in the 
house, the other one is on his 

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way. 
He just landed back in in 

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Portugal, so you should have him
any second, but only hiding this

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morning. 
Good morning. 

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Yeah, I'm good, man. 
How you doing? 

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Shit. 
One second, I got disconnected. 

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Yeah, I think you. 
I was gonna say your audio. 

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Can you hear me? 
I can hear you, but it's coming 

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from your laptop rather than 
your mic. 

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Check, check, check. 
Still from the laptop. 

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Hear me? 
Yeah. 

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We're good. 
We're back. 

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We're back. 
We're back. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I didn't hear what you said, 
though. 

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Thank you. 
Looks like you had a busy, busy 

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weekend training. 
I see you. 

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I see you at the see at the 
track running everything full 

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Rocky Balboa vibes, huh? 
Just training, man. 

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Have to have to keep training. 
Did you gonna fuck him up? 

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I told you, you saw. 
Anything about the fight? 

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I just see your tweet just like 
you're gonna fucking. 

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I have this one copy pasta and I
save it now. 

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And I'm just gonna say that 
every single tweet you put out 

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about the fight up on the right,
you're gonna fuck him up on 

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every single tweet. 
I am your official, unofficial 

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hype man. 
Ovie never asked me to, by the 

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way. 
I just decided this is how it 

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is. 
That's why I decided. 

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And I'm going to do it, you 
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And I know you like it deep 
down. 

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So are you like my T-shirt 
today? 

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Yeah, I like it. 
Rapping. 

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Rapping the red shirt, my first 
time wearing it. 

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I went for a little walk this 
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You know, it's nice because like
baggy and it's. 

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Like it's it's nicely fitted. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

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It's cool. 
It's nice for that. 

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The embroidery as well on the 
Rex Lego. 

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It's pretty, by the way. 
Very actually Danny pointed out 

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to me earlier. 
Yeah we were having lunch and 

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was like that's just really good
quality and you know Danny he 

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likes his nice things. 
So you know if you know, you 

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know like, yeah dude made in 
England everything but you 

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notice. 
So the the brand, right. 

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Yeah. 
Under the tag I love that it 

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says it's the little things for 
me when I look into like the 

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higher end things it says made 
in our own factory. 

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I don't know just things like 
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I don't know the little tiny 
things and I don't know when I 

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when I when I buy clothing and 
stuff. 

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That's. 
I mean, not like, it's not like 

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I paid for this. 
That's my RLD AirDrop, 

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technically. 
But still, like, if I were to 

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buy one, that's why we'd look 
for so things. 

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Pretty cool. 
I like it. 

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I was wearing my Jeff Staple 
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You know, the one with the bird 
shit on that you were wearing 

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the other day? 
Yeah, dude, I When we were at 

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Off, even after we were at Zebra
like four times that day, 

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someone was like, oh, you have 
And they're like embarrassed to 

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tell me, oh, you have, you have 
like, bird shit on your hat. 

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He hasn't seen the hat. 
It's the nine DCC hat. 

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Yeah, clap with Jeff Staple. 
But there's basically like, it 

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looks like there's pigeon shit 
on the rim of the cap that's 

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like stitched in and it looks 
pretty realistic, Like from a 

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distance it looks like someone 
just has on their hat. 

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Obviously it's by design, but 
yeah, I mean they pretty much 

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embroidered Burchett and is 
today on the street. 

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This is my first time wearing it
since he gave it to me in Korea 

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and I realised people were 
laughing at me walking down the 

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street, so I thought it was 
hilarious. 

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It's either that or my frog 
shoes. 

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But you know, we like the frog 
shoes. 

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But anyways, I thought, I 
thought it was hilarious. 

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I love the bird poop. 
I see Amanda was in the 

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audience. 
I try to bring you up, but I 

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think it's rugby a little bit. 
But what? 

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We'll wait. 
But anyways, look, Speaking of 

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Zibo, I mean, Friday was fun. 
Friday was. 

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I think I, you know, I I never 
listened to myself ever. 

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Like I've never listened to a 
recording of the show and what 

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not. 
And you know what though? 

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I listen back to that and I 
thought we did really good 

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because I was watching the 
stream when I got home. 

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We did good. 
What? 

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What did you think of Zebu? 
I wanna, I do want to give them 

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a big shout out. 
It was great. 

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Yeah, it was really good. 
I think of all the things we've 

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spoken about, that was probably 
the biggest audience. 

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Like there were no seats left in
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floor. 
People sitting on the floor 

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standing up and I'm sure it was 
like everything to do with 

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seeing us and nothing to do with
seeing Stephen Bartlett 

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afterwards, no. 
But nonetheless, it's still, it 

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was still a massive crowd and I 
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of that crowd were like the NFT 
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thing because it means we've got
to speak to a different audience

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and they have no idea if they 
have any clue what we were 

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talking about. 
But hopefully they did. 

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I agree I'm going to pin it to 
the top. 

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So those are curious. 
Let me see. 

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There you go. 
And that was it was a lot of fun

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but shot to Sims or producer who
managed to connect with the Zibo

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team to to to stream it live. 
One of my jokes did in line at 

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the beginning and obviously 
saved me. 

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He's like, yeah, we don't say 
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And whatever it was, it was 
great. 

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It was a fun back and forth. 
It was good jokes. 

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And like you said, a lot of 
people actually didn't really 

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know us. 
And I really like that. 

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It felt like a completely 
different audience and obvious, 

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like he he's not lying. 
It was, it was packed, man. 

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Like it was. 
It was must have been like 200 

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people in that room. 
Like it was packed, packed, 

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packed. 
So yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, it

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was good. 
It was kind of funny because we 

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were just like, I guess we spoke
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now. 
We were just like, ohh, yeah, 

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we're just like fucking roll in 
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And then we walked in. 
We were like, oh fuck down right

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before. 
Yeah, Mando. 

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Yeah, Mando was sick and it was 
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Like, the guy before us was like
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keynote speech for like a 
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And we were like, yeah, can you 
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the middle so you can just sit 
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what the hell are we talking 
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And I gotta say, ohh, we did 
carry me because I was, I don't 

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think I was feeling my best. 
But did you you spoke more on 

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that stage that you spoke on the
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It was great. 
I can. 

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I I There's one thing to let 
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space online. 
But I couldn't. 

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I couldn't let you hang in fast,
so I needed yeah. 

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Yeah, Everyone's got their 
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So I was like, I can't. 
I can't, Yeah. 

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Listen, it was worth taking 
Elizabeth line and going all the

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way to messing it up and it was 
a lot of fun. 

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I loved it. 
Just a big up and big thank you 

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and shout out to everybody that 
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It was a lot of fun, a lot of 
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potentially new friends, new 
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rock radio and and rec guy. 
So it's uh it was really cool to

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meet everyone and I really like 
that people come and talk to us 

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afterwards and all that stuff. 
So that was a lot of fun. 

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But anyways, anyways, anyways, 
it was a busy weekend it seems 

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in the crypto and NFT space. 
So let me give you all the 

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topics of today on the show 
today. 

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Today I wrote them out just now 
the market is down. 

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We were talking about earlier 
October, maybe wrecked over and 

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do you think it's your 
foundation needed more money so 

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they sold another 17 and 
release, we'll be talking about 

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that as well. 
Looking at that happened on 

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Friday night, but I'm sure every
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now. 
But you know, our producer said 

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that we still have to go over 
it. 

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Look at this accusation. 
Fact, fiction or fun? 

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What happened? 
And is this a Zagon 2.0 moment? 

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Blah blah blah, the gods, the 
gods are changed again, like 

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17th time. 
Another boring thing if you ask 

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me, but we'll talk about it a 
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Stars Arena. 
That was actually quite the 

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conversations weekend that was 
hacked over the weekend and 

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passed and whatnot, and the 
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came around again. 
And then last but not least 

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Stubbs artist of the week TK TK 
three I'm a teaser you'll go. 

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T3 is gonna be joining us on the
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chat about the starts the stars,
the Stubs mint happening this 

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week. 
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Red Rum Mint from last week is 
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didn't have the show Friday 
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was live and I was in on 
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But we are we are going to be 
the the the last week stuff is 

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still open so go to it's on the 
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YouTube and on X we're live on 
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I'll be posting the video in a 
second when I have my hands free

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in a second and as usual, as 
usual, As usual, this show is 

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powered by Kraken NFT. 
Go to kraken.com/rug Radio or 

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you GRADI and check it out. 
I'm actually super excited. 

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Over next week I am flying 2 
taxes with cracking for the F1. 

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Yeah, it's going sick. 
Cover the the rear wing contest 

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with the Williams car. 
So it's happening, happening. 

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I haven't been to F1 race this 
year so it'll be fun. 

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I'm excited for that one though.
It's a little boring right then.

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Verstappen already won the whole
thing. 

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I think so. 
Yeah, right. 

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It's like 31. 
Yeah, 50% of the people that go 

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to the F1, the F1 and the other 
50% of the party, party or 

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whatever. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Yeah, it's usually about the 
party, but anyways, it's gonna 

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be fun. 
But anyway, alright, so topic #1

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today was the market. 
It's the market only. 

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I check price back price. 
I check price this weekend, good

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price. 
But today, today the price is 

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not great and I read some news 
that the Ethereum Foundation 

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sold some more Ethan. 
They're usually really good at 

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selling pico tops although this 
time is very small amount 1700 

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eve. 
I mean I think it's still a lot 

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and and then it's got funny text
saying don't you dare call the 

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F1 boring just cause Max one you
get to go you're right you're 

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right but but you know I saw the
market stuff and you know on the

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more not so great news like 
what's happening you know in the

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Middle East and everything 
probably affecting market prices

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and whatnot in time of war. 
So obviously super sad, but I'm 

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assuming that this has something
to do with it exactly. 

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So Ollie, what's the what's the 
what's the TLDR on the market 

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today? 
Yeah. 

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Look, obviously the Israel, 
Palestine situation flaring up 

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over the weekend is affecting 
markets again. 

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The big thing to watch out for 
there really is oil. 

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We saw how oil spikes during 
Russia, Ukraine and then came 

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back down over time. 
We're up about 5 or 6% on the 

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price of all this, moved from 83
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WTI. 
So that's a decent. 

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Higher, Interestingly, interest 
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I wonder if there are some 
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causing that. 
Must be what's going on right 

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now. 
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on interest rates, like interest
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also we could set off because 
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lot higher, but it looks like 
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equities are lower as you'd 
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hit pretty hard to be honest 
with you. 

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I think we're done. 1057 to 10% 
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holding in well Bitcoin is at 
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now at 51, almost 51.1%. 
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this year was 52%, which is back
in July. 

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So we're definitely approaching 
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it's risk off right now in 
crypto. 

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Bitcoin has a use case if people
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and there's that narrative being
played there as well. 

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And you know it's not a war is 
never a nice narrative for an 

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asset price to rally, but it 
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that's what we're seeing right 
now in Bitcoin. 

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So that's holding up well. 
But the Bitcoin ratio now is 

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down to 0.058, which is the 
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this year but in the last 12 
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So that's another thing to, 
another thing to. 

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Um, watch out for. 
But yeah, I think that's that's 

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where we are right now. 
Don't know where we go from 

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here. 
It feels like the yeah, the path

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of least resistance is to move 
lower and then we have positive 

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catalysts that could send us 
higher. 

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But yeah, it's it's not great. 
Not great today. 

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No, it's definitely not great. 
I was wondering what's gonna 

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happen to the market today 
looking into why is it Charlie 

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Ohh, there you go looking into 
what's happening. 

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Obviously in the Middle East 
that never happened. 

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So Bitcoin is Bitcoin is 27 
four. 

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That's ETH that really took the 
tumble home. 

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Do you think do you think that 
it's also that he's taken a 

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bigger hit is mostly due to also
like these three foundations 

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selling more ETH? 
I feel like it's become a meme 

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right? 
Like the foundation signed the 

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pico top and every time it kind 
of jumps on that. 

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Is that one of the reasons why? 
I mean, it probably has. 

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Um ohh. 
Apparently I sound low on the 

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YouTube feed but good on spaces,
but not for me. 

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Um, not for me. 
Maybe turn up a couple notches 

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again. 
I don't know, but apparently 

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it's good on spaces, so I don't 
know why. 

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Hmm. 
No, they were just that. 

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Yeah, I'll turn it up a bit, 
but. 

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Yeah. 
Umm, what was gonna say ohh 

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Foundation? 
Look, the foundation has to 

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sell. 
The foundation has costs, right?

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It probably has to pay its 
debts, has to pay salaries. 

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It probably has to pay like 
expenses. 

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So every so often they have to 
sell because some of the costs 

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IRL aren't in the East. 
Right. 

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Like wherever, if you have 
premises they can't pay their 

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rent and need. 
So I don't know like if that's 

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the reason. 
I mean, how much did they sell 

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in the bull market at the pico 
top, right? 

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Like what was it like 40 
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Who knows if that's the reason 
why they're selling and maybe 

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they're just maybe they're just 
managing their, you know, their 

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assets and liabilities etcetera.
But I don't think the foundation

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is trying to trade the market, 
right. 

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That's not really their mandate.
Youth foundation is like, let's 

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just manage our balance and when
it is high we should sell some 

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because we need we'll have Fiat 
costs and when it is low, I 

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don't think they ever buy it 
when it's low, but I think they 

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just piece out of it so. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, it's obviously not great
these are. 

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So they have to. 
They have to do it. 

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The memes are. 
That's so good. 

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This is so funny, Rob. 
And this one is great. 

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Obviously Dave decided again, 
but it's so good. 

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Yeah man, listen, you know that 
was the one that was sculpt scan

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one viral. 
You know Theorem Foundation has 

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just sold 1700 ETH 2.76 million.
It's not a big dump, right. 

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It's not a big dumb, but it's 
just every time, every time. 

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It's just a little funny when 
you see that you know, over now 

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we're running speculation 
earlier on, you know, hyper 

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speculating. 
What if what cast of Vitalic 

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decides just to call it, you 
know it's like I I'm, I'm gonna 

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go on a boat fighting with 
models and I'm done. 

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I ran your coin up to to half a 
billion. 

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Half a trillion. 
What was it was all time high 

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for each like mark. 
Yeah, like 400 billion, right 

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that. 
Must that must be half a billion

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because it was the price of 
probably 3X what it is now, 

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200,000,000 market cap. 
So yeah, like probably 555 

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hundred billion. 
I guess, yeah, yeah, exactly. 

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So he's like, listen, I run, 
you're talking up to half a 

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trillion dollars already. 
I'm out. 

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You know, I'm doing my thing. 
So obviously it's not gonna 

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happen. 
Y'all and don't wanna cause 

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panic or fun or what not, but 
that is still what happened on 

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that sense. 
Damn, I would have loved to have

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Mandarin. 
When Mando comes back I wanna 

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ask you more about the oil press
and everything and how that 

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could affect the market. 
But it's listen, I think in the 

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time like this that I think we 
saw that happen when the Russia 

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and Ukraine, the tensions rose 
over there, right, like the 

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whole market, like I remember 
Bitcoin mostly like really took 

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a large hit at the time. 
And so you know it's probably 

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not going to be great for a 
little bit on that front. 

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So October is not cancelled yet,
but it's definitely set aside 

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for the time being. 
It's on hold for now. 

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So yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll just
call it a hold, right. 

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I don't want to call it retailer
as much as like wreck guy in 

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your brand. 
I really don't want to call 

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recover because it's not good 
for me. 

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Right, it's right, Taylor. 
It's a month. 

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It's the month of being wrecked.
We had, we had the wreck show 

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next week as well, like it's for
anyone in London. 

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It's full. 
It's full rector over the 18th 

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boom. 
Hell yeah. 

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The 18th, yeah. 
Tickets are now available to 

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claim, so if you have a wreck 
guy or or any of my art, just. 

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Just go ahead and claim tickets.
They're on the if you go to the 

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Red Guy Twitter account, that's 
on the pinned tweet. 

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Yeah, perfect, perfect, perfect.
I make sure you all go through 

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the legitimate sites and 
whatnot, but it's on the 

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official erect Guy NFT Twitter. 
I see it right there. 

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Wednesday, October 18th at the 
box and question for you it's 

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gonna be the box PG or the box 
all out. 

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OK, it's gonna be the box. 
It's just gonna be the box. 

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That's all I can say. 
It's just gonna be the box. 

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Ohh. 
Damn it. 

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I'm missing this one. 
Shit. 

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Ohh it sucks. 
Ohh man, I my last time with you

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was the PG version. 
Now this time they're going all 

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out when I can't be here. 
Damn it. 

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I was gonna be the first wreck 
event I'm not at. 

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So you guys enjoy that. 
It's gonna be a lot of fun. 

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And if you're holder of there's 
definitely definitely definitely

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you guys check it out. 
It's worth it. 

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Trust me it's worth it. 
Anyways topic #2 that we have 

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for you all today. 
Luca Netz facing accusations 

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over the weekend so there was a 
obviously a thread slash article

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that was written by NFT Herder 
AKA Hotshot just can't with this

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photo man. 
It's I think it's a photo 

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looking at this like holders did
the four with the pudgy 

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Penguins. 
It's great Photoshop skills. 

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So you know and basically 
allegations you know were were 

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wide, you know widespread also 
about his past with Shopify 

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stores and you know we knew that
he ran Shopify stores and was 

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income business by the way 
before. 

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That's nothing new. 
At least that's when I met him 

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back then. 
And then from NFT alleged of 

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course rug pools, what not to 
get to the point of acquiring 

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the pudgy Penguins, yadda yadda 
yadda. 

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And that came out obviously at a
time where like the only 

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conversations that's happening 
on timelines pudgy Penguins over

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the Walmart and looking at this 
is obviously doing counts you 

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know going around all of this. 
So there's listen the the I read

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the article the second it came 
out. 

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I think like we picked up on it 
like right away. 

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And I I remember sending it to 
the friends being like you know 

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check this out and obviously 
went through it myself a little 

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bit. 
However, I completely tuned out 

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this weekend, not even going to 
hide it. 

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I didn't really listen to like I
know there was. 

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And also being in Europe by the 
way OV is fantastic because I 

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mean I guess in the bear market 
because you don't get all the 

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bullshit that's happening at 
night over there like you're 

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just sleeping so you wake up and
the whole house is on fire like 

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what the hell is going on around
here. 

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However in the bull market you 
missed out on everything. 

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But in this bear market I woke 
up on Saturday morning 

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moisturised a my lane and 
everything and obviously I I saw

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his tweets from thread guy 
saying looking at his get off 

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that stage blah blah blah. 
So I'm assuming that a Twitter 

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spaces you know went crazy and I
heard though from from friends 

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of mine that you know it's true 
that he was getting cut off a 

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lot and they were not really 
letting him speak and kind of 

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like letting him make 
counterpoints. 

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So if you're gonna Fiona call 
someone out by the way been in 

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the hot seat multiple times 
myself at least let him speak 

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and hear him out right and and 
and let them kind of do their 

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thing but it seems as such like 
you know it's a it I just heard 

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him on nifty portal he was just 
on so I don't really want to go 

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over it forever but I guess Ovie
like did you follow the I feel 

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like you're also tuned out. 
I feel like we, you mean Mando 

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can have been tuning out of 
those things lately. 

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Everything looked more is this 
like a saga 2.0 moment or is 

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that just like a whatever like I
you know it's. 

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I read. 
Look. 

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I read through, I read through 
the Yeah post and the Medium 

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article. 
I think the allegations are like

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he was involved with two or 
three projects that her rug 

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pulled and he got paid from 
them. 

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I think Lucas Counterpoint is 
that, well, he had a side hustle

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or a business before that that's
kind of like and he sold 

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services to these accounts and 
then he was embroiled as an 

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advisor. 
So he was never really like a 

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founder or part of the project. 
And you know, they ended up 

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missing. 
Maybe something isn't working, 

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maybe they're not rugged or 
whatever, you know. 

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But I think, I think it's a 
stretch to say he is involved in

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rug pools. 
I think it's quite clear that, 

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yeah, he sold. 
It's quite big properties on 

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larger services in an industry 
or business that he was involved

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with in doing before he was in 
the NFT world. 

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And that's how he got involved 
and he got paid out for those 

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services projects and you don't 
know like maybe they know 

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there's Ethan amounts are quite 
high, but maybe they would have 

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said, OK, if you can guarantee 
us like X this amount of our 

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Instagram following, we'll give 
you 10% of the min or something 

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like that, right? 
OK. 

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So you would be selling ads? 
Yeah, exactly. 

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So maybe he got paid in kind 
rather than like ETH up front. 

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So that's why he's getting large
amounts of youth. 

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But there's nothing wrong with 
it. 

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Like I know, I know it. 
Like I know someone might feel 

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like, oh, that's kind of shit 
cuz I bought this project and 

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then it went to zero and Luca 
got paid off it. 

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But he wasn't the founder. 
He wasn't the creator of the 

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project. 
He wouldn't like doing anything 

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right. 
He was just they just bought ads

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off him and paid him in Neath 
and in in a perfectly legitimate

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business and it's not on him to 
be like ohh I'm only going to 

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sell ads to. 
I'm gonna make an assessment as 

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to whether this project is gonna
run or not and like only sell as

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the one because some wide amount
of future reputation like yeah 

451
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,490
at the end of the day you're 
gonna have clients that go South

452
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:06,590
and maybe this is what happened.
So I just don't think I don't 

453
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,510
think there's anything wrong 
here. 

454
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,730
I don't think I did anything 
wrong. 

455
00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:11,960
I think it shows that he was 
hustling and stuff before and it

456
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:14,020
kind of shows you what he was 
doing before. 

457
00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:16,990
And I think ever since he did 
become a fan of Project Page 

458
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,860
Penguins he's done right by them
every step of the way. 

459
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:24,480
So I just, you know, I just 
don't think it's that bad. 

460
00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:28,870
Yeah, listen again, people 
saying and again I'm just 

461
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,320
reporting here, but people 
saying this space was unsighted 

462
00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:34,310
and he was barely given a chance
to speak. 

463
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,890
Obviously, like if I have to 
like disclaim my bias here, that

464
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,890
mean to my holdings of two pudgy
Penguins is not really 

465
00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:45,370
significant to my to my life. 
So it's like I don't really have

466
00:22:45,380 --> 00:22:47,810
a bias when it comes to any 
holdings. 

467
00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:52,770
And of course, Luke is a friend.
And so it seems like, I don't 

468
00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:56,130
know, I think the whole call 
out. 

469
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,210
Didn't go as planned and that's 
it. 

470
00:22:59,220 --> 00:23:02,270
And then of course I think it 
was Luca, right. 

471
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,580
Wrote a thread that got a did a 
lot of. 

472
00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:06,380
I read that thread. 
I was like, OK, it's that's kind

473
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:09,090
of when I tuned out obvious. 
Like I read Lucas Thread. 

474
00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:13,010
And I was like, OK, cool like. 
You know, that's it. 

475
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:17,590
Alright, so it's that's it. 
You know, hey, he sold marketing

476
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,290
services and you know did it all
go as planned and that's it. 

477
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,490
You know, we, you know there's 
some people that I've hosted 

478
00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:26,790
that, you know, you think 
they're good people and then 

479
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,100
then turns out they're not good 
people. 

480
00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:30,130
Like it doesn't mean you 
freaking rock the whole thing, 

481
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:32,670
right. 
So I get what you're saying but 

482
00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:35,550
it seems like the timeline, you 
know, heavily supported Luca and

483
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,650
and that's about it. 
Listen, if you want to hear from

484
00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:40,580
Luke himself, just go to Nifty 
Portals show this morning and 

485
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,920
I'm pretty sure he was on there.
Just now. 

486
00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:44,260
It's just obviously it's 
finished now. 

487
00:23:44,270 --> 00:23:49,020
But he was on there, you know, 
and he was talking about that 

488
00:23:49,030 --> 00:23:50,840
I'm I can't, I'm failing to find
threat. 

489
00:23:50,850 --> 00:23:54,020
There it is. 
So he says I've been into in the

490
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,920
entrepreneurship arena, I'm in 
the arena, I love that quote 

491
00:23:56,930 --> 00:23:59,620
now. 
But he says I've been in the 

492
00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:02,520
entrepreneurship arena for for 
eight years now and it's been a 

493
00:24:02,530 --> 00:24:04,740
beautiful ride with a tonne of 
trials, tribulations. 

494
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,220
Below is a thread on how I got 
there. 

495
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:08,540
So I'm going to, I'm not going 
to read the whole thing for you 

496
00:24:08,550 --> 00:24:10,060
all. 
You guys can all go and read it 

497
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:13,240
yourself if you want to, but 
that's what it is. 

498
00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:16,730
And he gave his points and I 
think that he gave his points 

499
00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:20,680
very openly. 
And that's it, you know, that's 

500
00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:22,700
it. 
And then she saw dads and you 

501
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:26,830
know, not everything turned out 
to go his way, the way that he 

502
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,890
probably wished for. 
And that's it. 

503
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,530
But all I know is that his 
current position at Puji 

504
00:24:30,540 --> 00:24:33,390
Penguins, he's doing well. 
And I do think that he is a 

505
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,070
value add to the NFT space, 
which is why I support him 

506
00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:39,030
personally Speaking of course, 
and my own opinions, not the 

507
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,150
opinions of radio yada, yada 
yada, all these disclaimers. 

508
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,230
But you know, I I I support him.
And until we see something 

509
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560
actually like a factual saying 
that's like ohh, he rigged the 

510
00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:51,270
project himself then you know 
that's it. 

511
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,690
And and then invite people to 
always you know make their own 

512
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,840
research. 
Don't just even also just listen

513
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:57,880
to over. 
And I and I like assume that 

514
00:24:57,890 --> 00:25:00,970
we're right either just go and 
read yourself as well from both 

515
00:25:00,980 --> 00:25:02,710
sides. 
But yeah that was the thing of 

516
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,240
the weekend I guess Ohh. 
It's funny because when it was 

517
00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:07,290
happening I was like when is the
space gonna pop? 

518
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,150
I was texting the groups. 
I'm like surely it's going to be

519
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,970
a Twitter space. 
It's about this within the next 

520
00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:15,110
5 minutes and you know you're in
a bear market. 

521
00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:20,450
When it took like 8 hours for 
Twitter spaces to pop out about 

522
00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:24,270
the allegations and whatnot, 
cause in the bull market, like 

523
00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:27,310
they would have been like 17 
spaces going off at the same 

524
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,710
time. 
You remember how crazy the bull 

525
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,850
market was with all these 
things, the allegations and the 

526
00:25:31,860 --> 00:25:34,150
fights and the truth and the 
other side of the story. 

527
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,280
Bang, bang. 
So that's what would have 

528
00:25:36,290 --> 00:25:38,470
happened. 
But it's that is not what 

529
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,670
happened this time around. 
So you know you're deep in a 

530
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,160
bear market. 
When that happens just quickly 

531
00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:44,810
before I go into the next topic,
I see Mandela's on stage with 

532
00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:46,300
us. 
Mando GM Can you hear me? 

533
00:25:47,230 --> 00:25:50,750
Yeah, Can you hear me? 
yo-yo, yo, How are you feeling, 

534
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,420
Mando? 
We missed on Friday. 

535
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:56,800
Just got off the flight back in 
Lisbon. 30 degrees in Lisbon is 

536
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:58,840
it's. 
I feel it's good to be back. 

537
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:00,340
It's 30 degrees here too, by the
way. 

538
00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:05,930
Like 25 degrees is too hot on 
the scale of too hot. 

539
00:26:06,380 --> 00:26:09,110
You're really hating finding any
excuse to hate on Portugal. 

540
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,930
You're really have like no mercy
bro. 

541
00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:15,800
Ohh, it's too hot. 
Dude, the place you live at is 

542
00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:17,700
raining. 
Unless I am here. 

543
00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:20,960
So I bring the sun to London. 
I told you Mando was laughing. 

544
00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:22,760
I say I bring the sunshine to 
London. 

545
00:26:22,810 --> 00:26:24,860
Every time I'm in London it's 
sunny. 

546
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:26,840
Dude, it it's. 
I'm telling you bro, it's just 

547
00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:29,040
been beautiful every single day.
It was only cold the day we went

548
00:26:29,050 --> 00:26:31,120
golfing, but even that was like,
whatever, right? 

549
00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:33,790
Anyways, Mando, what's your 
thoughts here? 

550
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,640
Do you have any additional 
thoughts that they recovered 

551
00:26:35,650 --> 00:26:37,230
pretty well? 
But did you have anything that 

552
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,460
had on this Lucas situation of 
the weekend or can we just move 

553
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:45,100
over it? 
I guess I only saw the article. 

554
00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:47,700
I have to admit that when I read
the article, didn't read well 

555
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:51,000
and I saw his response but 
didn't necessarily address what 

556
00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:52,650
was in the article. 
I saw nothing else. 

557
00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:55,320
Hmm. 
So I was like, but then the 

558
00:26:55,330 --> 00:26:57,080
floor price didn't move and 
apparently did very well in the 

559
00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:59,000
space and explained himself. 
I hadn't seen the explanation. 

560
00:26:59,010 --> 00:27:02,100
So if people like believe the 
explanations, then I think 

561
00:27:02,110 --> 00:27:03,980
that's fair. 
Like, I think I think he's a net

562
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:07,300
positive for the for the NFT 
space for sure. 

563
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:09,430
He's in a very, very good job 
with pudgy Penguins. 

564
00:27:09,530 --> 00:27:12,280
I I mean for someone who only 
saw the star. 

565
00:27:12,370 --> 00:27:15,750
And his response, I thought it 
was, it shows you how good his 

566
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,630
reputation is in this space. 
Because if that had been 

567
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,510
somebody else, I think it could 
have been a lot worse. 

568
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,370
Like I've seen like, you know, 
how things can get sensation is 

569
00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:27,770
very, very quickly. 
I would say 90% of what I saw 

570
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:31,770
was like people being like 
downplaying it rather than I 

571
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:34,530
know pastimes has happened. 
It's like, Oh my God, we're 

572
00:27:34,540 --> 00:27:36,950
going to pile in. 
So I think that that goes to 

573
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,280
show how how much people like 
him and what a positive he's 

574
00:27:40,290 --> 00:27:42,660
been for this space. 
But I read it and I'll be 

575
00:27:42,670 --> 00:27:44,260
honest. 
I didn't really well so. 

576
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:46,800
Yeah, it doesn't read well at 
first. 

577
00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:48,160
I listen, I have to go back and 
listen. 

578
00:27:48,170 --> 00:27:51,040
I I was, I was, I was tuning in,
but then they were talking 

579
00:27:51,050 --> 00:27:52,660
Walmart. 
But I'll tap back into the Nick 

580
00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:55,360
and People show from earlier 
today and listen back at it. 

581
00:27:55,370 --> 00:27:57,510
Maybe we couldn't update people 
tomorrow, but that's that's a 

582
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,780
good read. 
You know the the reputation 

583
00:27:59,790 --> 00:28:02,090
proceeded and he's doing well. 
It's it's funny like we can't 

584
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,330
have nice things like every time
someone's going well and 

585
00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:06,960
something's popping. 
Like it's like we try to like 

586
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:09,700
tear it apart. 
Look I'm not throwing shots 

587
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:12,000
either at the people who wrote 
the article and that came out in

588
00:28:12,010 --> 00:28:13,900
with the threat and stuff. 
Look, you do what you wanna do. 

589
00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:16,680
It's your platform. 
You know, whatever. 

590
00:28:17,170 --> 00:28:20,060
But you know it's just like it's
it's every time someone's doing 

591
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:23,000
good, it's like there's gotta be
something behind it If you look 

592
00:28:23,010 --> 00:28:26,780
into the past and that I don't 
wanna excuse anything either. 

593
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:28,840
But if you look into the past, 
it's just through like in the 

594
00:28:28,850 --> 00:28:30,660
past of everyone. 
This is gonna be something 

595
00:28:30,670 --> 00:28:32,580
happening at some point. 
It's like web two. 

596
00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:35,020
Like every successful person you
can go Elon. 

597
00:28:35,030 --> 00:28:36,620
What? 
I'm sure Elon's at some point 

598
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:39,560
somewhere did something that 
maybe doesn't you know fit 

599
00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:42,980
within the moral compass or the 
ethical compass of somebody in 

600
00:28:42,990 --> 00:28:44,310
the space. 
You know it won't work out. 

601
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,880
So you know. 
Anyway, so that's. 

602
00:28:46,030 --> 00:28:48,710
That's kind of read. 
We'll listen an object to all 

603
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,670
another time and you know, 
actually I've been saying this 

604
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,990
for two weeks, but we were meant
to have Luke. 

605
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,820
It was tough again last week. 
It was tough the week before. 

606
00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:57,740
But me this week he comes and 
maybe we give him that 1015 

607
00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:00,310
minutes to talk about this later
this week, but maybe not because

608
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,950
maybe we're over it. 
Anyways, moving on, moving on, 

609
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,050
moving on topic number three of 
the day. 

610
00:29:08,350 --> 00:29:10,400
I'm sorry I'm laughing at my own
tight titles today. 

611
00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:12,580
I was like looking at them. 
Probably boring topic right now,

612
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:14,060
but producer told us to cover 
it. 

613
00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:18,980
Next topic Decode. 
Reset again, amazing social 

614
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:23,400
marketing plan or simply poor 
project management, you know. 

615
00:29:23,410 --> 00:29:26,060
I woke up this morning up in 
Twitter. 

616
00:29:27,010 --> 00:29:29,860
I was personally looking towards
Twitter and asked to see what's 

617
00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:32,420
happening conflict and on on the
other side of the world and 

618
00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:35,780
getting trying to inform myself 
and dodge you know, propaganda 

619
00:29:35,790 --> 00:29:38,380
bullets and and fake news 
bullets at the same time. 

620
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:45,560
But I did stumble upon Frank's 
tweet about about the reset and 

621
00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:48,420
how they're going back to to the
first version. 

622
00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:51,620
So they're calling it the 
comeback Chapter one in the 

623
00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:55,140
midst of chaos. 
There is opportunity Sansu. 

624
00:29:55,690 --> 00:29:58,260
So he says. 
We just reset all the gods back 

625
00:29:58,270 --> 00:30:01,140
to season one. 
Season one of bigots symbolises 

626
00:30:01,150 --> 00:30:03,680
our roots. 
Back when we had something 

627
00:30:03,730 --> 00:30:06,850
before the drama, before we took
things so seriously, we made fun

628
00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:08,520
of ourselves because we didn't 
care. 

629
00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:11,670
We didn't care. 
Because we were just having fun.

630
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,110
I'm gonna share on the screen 
this kind of a new road map. 

631
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,930
So it seems like they're making 
another change. 

632
00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:19,530
Listen, I always say, you know, 
I like Frank. 

633
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,230
I like Kevin. 
You know, I I like people who 

634
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,590
try. 
So I'll always stand by that. 

635
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,450
But when, Danny, earlier I was 
chatting with you, I've seen 

636
00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:28,890
disgusting. 
I was like, yeah, again. 

637
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:31,440
And I'm kind of over it. 
So I'm gonna stay here on the 

638
00:30:31,450 --> 00:30:32,570
record. 
I'm also over it. 

639
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:34,650
Like I, you know, I don't think 
it's major news. 

640
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:37,030
Like there's obviously, like way
worse things happening on the 

641
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,040
other side of the world right 
now. 

642
00:30:38,050 --> 00:30:39,670
Maybe that's why I'm feeling 
this way right now. 

643
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,750
But a lot of things happening 
here like I'm just like. 

644
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,150
You know, there's way worse 
things going on. 

645
00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:47,640
And and actually I was walking 
this morning, it was like, I'm 

646
00:30:47,650 --> 00:30:49,530
really lucky to be able to walk 
outside right now. 

647
00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:51,010
That's how I feel. 
That's my mood today. 

648
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:55,950
I'm like I'm just lucky and and 
and so yeah, when I saw this 

649
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,770
listen again a beautiful looking
graphic. 

650
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:02,020
It's cool. 
The branding's great. 

651
00:31:02,090 --> 00:31:03,730
They're going back. 
They want to unify. 

652
00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:06,310
They want to clarify. 
It says alongside the launch of 

653
00:31:06,460 --> 00:31:09,070
REDACTED. 
Every single concern with God's 

654
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,390
youth points and art updates, 
CIPD gods and apparently youths 

655
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,110
and guards. 
They're becoming one, blah blah 

656
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,370
blah. 
And again, just couldn't hold 

657
00:31:17,380 --> 00:31:18,890
off. 
But to hype something, it says 

658
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,770
the launch of something. 
So hyping a launch while 

659
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:24,670
announcing A comeback and a 
reset. 

660
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,590
So that's kind of my read of it.
I have a feeling before even 

661
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,910
asking over how he feels about 
it. 

662
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,670
I know how you feel about it. 
You probably don't give a fuck, 

663
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,170
don't you? 
Yeah, I mean, it's just more of 

664
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:38,780
the same, isn't it? 
I just think it's more of the 

665
00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:40,970
same. 
I think this looks cool. 

666
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:43,630
Like, I think the graphic design
here is amazing. 

667
00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:46,610
I think, yeah, I think the 
branding and all that stuff is 

668
00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:47,970
really cool. 
I think they just always nail 

669
00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:49,770
that. 
But it's now becoming clearer 

670
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:51,940
and clearer that that stuff 
worked at the beginning. 

671
00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:55,020
But if you don't have any 
substance behind what you're 

672
00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:56,970
putting out there, you 
eventually get found out. 

673
00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:59,490
And people I think, need 
substance style. 

674
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,610
This strategy works in a bull 
market when you have prices 

675
00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:04,700
going up. 
But in a bear market, when 

676
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:07,600
people are funding any reason to
sell their NFTS, if you're not 

677
00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:10,360
producing something of 
substance, like pudgy Penguins 

678
00:32:10,370 --> 00:32:12,140
are, then people are just gonna 
sell. 

679
00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:16,320
And I think this is the problem.
It's like, what does this 

680
00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:18,040
release say? 
It says absolutely nothing. 

681
00:32:18,050 --> 00:32:21,200
It says we're gonna reset, but 
what are you resetting? 

682
00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:24,200
Like what did you do in the 1st 
place to reset? 

683
00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:26,900
It says you can change your art 
between season 1-2 and three of 

684
00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:27,910
Go. 
That's fine. 

685
00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:31,420
That's a useful feature I guess,
but it's not like something to 

686
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:34,360
to rave about and then it has 
like this. 

687
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:36,790
Ohh, I'm working on Redacted. 
Well you know they've just made 

688
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,440
the same mistake again there of 
trying to hype something up. 

689
00:32:39,450 --> 00:32:41,330
But I think people aren't really
buying it now. 

690
00:32:41,810 --> 00:32:44,680
But you just like left yourself 
something there to potentially 

691
00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:47,260
disappoint on, which is what 
mistake they made last time. 

692
00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:52,240
So I hope I'm wrong again. 
Like I think I like Frank and I 

693
00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:56,640
think he has the right 
intentions and I think he's 

694
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:58,640
achieved some cool stuff in this
space. 

695
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:02,180
But I just think they're, you 
know, I just don't really know 

696
00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:05,090
what they're doing and and I. 
Think this is the video is 

697
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,980
great, right? 
Like all their stuff. 

698
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:09,020
Like, I like this shit. 
It's great. 

699
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:11,770
It's great. 
It's a great hype video and if 

700
00:33:11,780 --> 00:33:13,810
this was a meme coin, it would 
kind of be cool. 

701
00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:16,420
Like, it's like, yeah, you 
getting people hyped up, but. 

702
00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:17,810
I think this should just make a 
meme coin. 

703
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:20,390
They should have a meme coin. 
That would be fine. 

704
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:24,240
I think the problem is like, the
problem is there's a maybe an 

705
00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:25,790
imbalance and expectations 
again. 

706
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,420
And I think Diego's holders are 
expecting something like it is 

707
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:33,230
kind of pitched like this big to
be this big brand kind of thing.

708
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,070
We're going to take on yoga and 
all this stuff and, um, so much 

709
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,690
hyping of it going on so people,
you know, like getting excited 

710
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:42,620
and having expectations. 
And I think that's the problem. 

711
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:45,670
Like, you know, if people didn't
have this expectation and this 

712
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,550
was just like a mean project and
just sort of like an Internet 

713
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,100
presence and that would work. 
So I don't know. 

714
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,030
Yeah I I I think this is a very 
good read man. 

715
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,540
What do you what do you think 
here feeling is gonna be also 

716
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,950
similar the video is great by 
the when you hear me laugh is 

717
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,270
not I'm like what are you saying
I think the video is hilarious. 

718
00:34:03,340 --> 00:34:05,670
I've even though I'm not 
listening with sound but every 

719
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,070
single thing is fine. 
Ohh videos, content, everything.

720
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,580
Is branding. 
They're really good at that. 

721
00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:13,420
They're very good at that. 
Unless you're a meme coin, 

722
00:34:13,429 --> 00:34:16,350
that's not enough. 
Yeah, what do you think, Mando? 

723
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,610
Yeah, look, I I don't really 
need anything. 

724
00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:22,400
I think I was just give a. 
But he's hit the nail on the 

725
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:24,110
head. 
I'll be interested to see if the

726
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,010
community buy into it. 
I I think frankly incredible 

727
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:31,949
community manager and part of 
like part of being owning an NFT

728
00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:36,170
of a profile picture collection 
is just community management and

729
00:34:36,219 --> 00:34:38,800
basically like directing the 
vibes so to speak and just an 

730
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:44,659
incredible job of that, but. 
For it to be worth say 3-4 K, So

731
00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:49,260
I think people are now it's not 
even that that they maybe they 

732
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:52,199
would always expect it, but I 
just think they've gone down the

733
00:34:52,210 --> 00:34:56,020
route of building stuff up like 
OSF says and that that's. 

734
00:34:57,110 --> 00:34:59,560
I mean the whole idea that you 
need to renew it. 

735
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,330
Where we going to be in like 5 
years or 10 years? 

736
00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:06,530
Do you know what I mean? 
Like you don't want to be like, 

737
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:08,770
ohh, we're gonna renew it again 
in five or ten years. 

738
00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:13,790
It just feels a bit like. 
I don't know you wanna have, you

739
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,710
wanna you wanna be able to feel 
comfortable that it rests, it 

740
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,050
has value without this kind of 
need for right. 

741
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:24,650
We need to like re pitch 
everything because that to me, 

742
00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:28,310
if I'm thinking right, how is 
this going to be in in like a 

743
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,350
few years? 
It kind of changes it slightly 

744
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,860
so. 
Yeah, that's it. 

745
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:34,550
That's it. 
But they are, they are basically

746
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,420
one of the best teams when it 
comes to branding and social 

747
00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:38,600
platform stuff. 
But that's it. 

748
00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:41,270
It will take more. 
Actually this 111 time I 

749
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,860
actually kind of, I can't say it
on the record. 

750
00:35:43,870 --> 00:35:46,280
I kind of the beanie had a great
take today. 

751
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:49,480
It it's, you know, I don't agree
with all Bernie's takes. 

752
00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:52,920
Sometimes we do talk about them 
privately, but he said something

753
00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:58,300
about urging Founders. 
And I'll just read it, he said. 

754
00:35:59,230 --> 00:36:02,240
If NFT project founders want to 
avoid the inevitable erosion of 

755
00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:04,760
their collection values to zero,
they must take immediate action 

756
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:06,590
to provide utility. 
Which is what you're saying 

757
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,980
over, right? 
It's like it has to happen now 

758
00:36:09,770 --> 00:36:12,780
and then. 
And then many collections are 

759
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:15,840
simply hanging on in hope 
giving. 

760
00:36:15,850 --> 00:36:18,560
Give it a year and all will be 
0. 

761
00:36:18,570 --> 00:36:23,360
Unless the founders provide 
value hosting. 

762
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:26,340
Yeah. 
But let me see one second. 

763
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:30,060
My girlfriend's dad can find 
Vanessa and and he's asking if 

764
00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:33,940
he's she's with me and he's 
worried and and then and I can't

765
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:38,920
and I I'm hosting Ohh I know 
she's fine. 

766
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:41,750
She's probably here, but I got 
to check in with Danny. 

767
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,430
I love how you just. 
Live on the show. 

768
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,160
One second. 
Alright. 

769
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,330
Ohh, it's just me. 
Yeah. 

770
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:50,570
Wow. 
I've never been in this 

771
00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:52,860
situation where it's just me. 
No man. 

772
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:55,750
Don't know frog? 
And that wasn't him. 

773
00:36:56,190 --> 00:36:57,910
Ohh, I wasn't. 
This is what Frank was saying. 

774
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,780
The last few seconds I was like,
oh shit, I don't know what to 

775
00:36:59,790 --> 00:37:03,490
say now. 
Um, so do we move on to the next

776
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,530
topic or do we still talk about 
these days stars Arena hacks? 

777
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,030
No, we're good. 
We're good. 

778
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:10,370
We're good. 
OK. 

779
00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:12,380
Ohh you were gonna Dude, I need 
to hear it. 

780
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:14,110
You you, you introduced the 
topic. 

781
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:17,770
You you got introduced Phil on 
freaking out there because like 

782
00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:19,570
Matt, like I guess Nando's here,
but he's on audio. 

783
00:37:19,580 --> 00:37:22,010
And then you just walked out and
I was like, Ohh shit and I 

784
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:23,930
wasn't listening to like the 
last 10 seconds of what you 

785
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:25,890
said. 
So I wasn't sure where you were.

786
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,050
But. 
Vanessa's dad called cause she's

787
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:32,440
he's here and they were just 
together and he just texted me 

788
00:37:32,510 --> 00:37:35,440
and he doesn't just text me. 
You feel me like he just like I 

789
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:36,920
don't really text with him, 
right? 

790
00:37:36,990 --> 00:37:39,560
And it's actually my only text 
with him. 

791
00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:44,860
You know what I mean? 
If there's nothing else, there's

792
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:46,960
nothing else. 
Vanessa with you, She's not 

793
00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:48,470
answering. 
So obviously, you know, I get 

794
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,210
this tax from, you know, from 
your girlfriend's father. 

795
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:53,980
Like you gotta you gotta, you 
know, you kind of answer. 

796
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:59,410
Oh my God, I was. 
And also we're in London. 

797
00:37:59,420 --> 00:38:01,660
You know, I've been hearing way 
too many things about London 

798
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:03,560
these days. 
Way too many stories. 

799
00:38:03,570 --> 00:38:06,700
So just checking, just checking,
Just checking. 

800
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:08,500
But you know what? 
Why don't you present the next 

801
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:10,720
topic over? 
I'm actually curious to hear you

802
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:14,020
presenting a topic. 
Yeah, the the next topic is that

803
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:18,850
of the the big hack we saw in 
Stars Arena, which is another 

804
00:38:18,860 --> 00:38:21,770
social fire platform on 
Avalanche. 

805
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:24,770
I think that's the first big 
project on Avalanche that I've 

806
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:28,520
heard of and probably well over 
a year, but I don't know about 

807
00:38:28,530 --> 00:38:30,910
you guys, lots of my time. 
We're All Stars, Arena, et 

808
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,580
cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 
It sounds like there was a 

809
00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:39,990
security flaw which resulted in 
a hack and stealing of over 

810
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,200
$3,000,000 worth of funds. 
I don't know about you guys, but

811
00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:46,590
a lot of my timeline was like, 
this is a rug. 

812
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,760
It sounds like it was just an 
exploit in a hack. 

813
00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:51,050
We don't really know, but I 
think there were accusations of 

814
00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:54,140
it being more than that. 
But the last I read, it sounds 

815
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:56,650
like they found funding to 
bridge that gap and they're 

816
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:57,950
going to be able to get it going
again. 

817
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,180
But you know, this is, it's 
another reminder to be honest 

818
00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:03,430
with you on all these social 
platforms. 

819
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,400
You know, even friend tech, etc.
Your number one, you're bringing

820
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:08,890
your really. 
If you're if you're Ethereum 

821
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:12,230
based, you're bringing youth to.
You're bringing your token, 

822
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,840
whatever it is, to another 
chain, and then in most of these

823
00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:20,470
cases, it's wallet that's 
generated for you, or it's held 

824
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,530
by in another wallet that 
someone else has previously had 

825
00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:27,210
access to. 
A theatre you can get access to.

826
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,910
And if it's something that's 
predominantly on your phone, 

827
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,570
then you're also open to SIM 
swaps as well. 

828
00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:34,960
So there's been a lot of SIM 
swap attacks and hacks on 

829
00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:37,300
Frontex. 
We've had this big exploit. 

830
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:45,200
Now on on on Stars Arena as well
and it's, you know, these are 

831
00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:52,260
all risks to having your your 
crypto in like a third party 

832
00:39:52,270 --> 00:39:56,120
vehicle if you like. 
And hackers realise that, 

833
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:58,280
exporters realise that and 
they're going for them now. 

834
00:39:58,290 --> 00:40:01,180
So I would just be very careful 
on the stuff, you know, like 

835
00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:04,990
don't. 
Umm, be disciplined about how 

836
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,570
much crypto you're keeping on 
and within these these social 

837
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:10,450
platforms. 
Definitely be careful. 

838
00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:12,900
So yeah, I have a large social 
app stars arena drain of 

839
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:16,450
$3,000,000 in Avax after hack. 
The newest viral application 

840
00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:19,590
launched nearly a week ago and 
quickly gained A cult following.

841
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,160
So like we said, it got very 
popular very fast. 

842
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:25,780
I mean you see everybody on it. 
And no, Kaleo was very big on 

843
00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:27,390
all that and they said they 
quit. 

844
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,610
Deir own tweet. 
There has been a major security 

845
00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:31,950
breach with the smart contract. 
We're actively checking the 

846
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,760
issue. 
Do not deposit. 

847
00:40:33,850 --> 00:40:36,560
Any funds? 
Stay tuned for updates, which I 

848
00:40:36,570 --> 00:40:41,460
believe has been patched by now.
But what caused the outrage and 

849
00:40:41,470 --> 00:40:44,020
I'll quote, someone actually met
Jordy and in Singapore. 

850
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:46,880
Brilliant guy. 
But he said, I literally cannot 

851
00:40:46,890 --> 00:40:49,960
believe what I'm reading. 
And So what happened is that 

852
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:52,300
what's this man? 
I mean again, he's the founder 

853
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:54,560
and CEO of Ava Ava Ava Labs. 
Right. 

854
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:56,980
He pretty much said that it was 
like, not like. 

855
00:40:56,990 --> 00:40:58,770
He kind of like brushed it off 
right away like it's just 

856
00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:01,360
$3,000,000. 
And I think like people took it 

857
00:41:01,370 --> 00:41:04,000
to Twitter very fast and like 
what the like, you know, I mean 

858
00:41:04,010 --> 00:41:05,710
like. 
Just three million. 

859
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,130
So three like you know you still
were exploited, right. 

860
00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:11,170
So personally like I'm my own 
chiming was like, I'm glad I 

861
00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:15,530
didn't buy into it though I do 
think people need to stay 

862
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:18,470
curious about Social Fi and I 
like social Fi and I wrote about

863
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,430
it last week as well. 
So definitely do things stay 

864
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,750
curious. 
But to always point again don't 

865
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,570
keep too much money on these 
platforms. 

866
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,710
You have to be careful. 
You never know. 

867
00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:31,530
But it kind of suck when it was 
like, ohh, it's three nil. 

868
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:34,440
But remember, they got hacked 
for it to be 100 and they lost 

869
00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:37,250
600 miles. 
Dude, like, it doesn't make it 

870
00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:39,800
better, right? 
It's like you still got, you 

871
00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,560
know, you still got hacked. 
So it's not good and and it's 

872
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:45,960
people who lost money. 
But I like the development you 

873
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:49,120
give me if you say that, you 
know, apparently this is going 

874
00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:52,400
to be some money they found the 
money to to give back to the 

875
00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:54,580
people and whatnot. 
But yeah, definitely. 

876
00:41:56,130 --> 00:41:58,050
Yeah, your hack size is not 
size. 

877
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:59,700
You know, like that was not 
great. 

878
00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:02,880
And I know a lot of, you know, 
core CT people were really not 

879
00:42:02,890 --> 00:42:05,500
happy about that. 
One thing though, I don't know 

880
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:09,440
if you guys saw that. 
Football was calling, calling it

881
00:42:09,450 --> 00:42:13,090
an inside job, likely. 
I won't put words in the mouth, 

882
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,940
but FUBAR said stars Arena. 
Likely an inside job, so 

883
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:19,280
obviously keyword likely here. 
This is not us, you know calling

884
00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:22,540
it an inside job. 
No other reasonable explanation 

885
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:26,000
for taking a perfectly fine 100 
line contract, adding in new 

886
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:29,400
vulnerabilities via function 
that never get used, refusing to

887
00:42:29,410 --> 00:42:33,340
verify the contract, getting 
half hacked, not fixing things, 

888
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:35,860
then getting fully hackers. 
Remember, and I was Mando 

889
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:38,280
covered that it was a week or so
ago that there was. 

890
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:44,110
Somewhat of a a hack and then 
got patched quickly, right? 

891
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:46,470
And then this hack happened 
because of course you know, we 

892
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,110
covered it last week. 
So this is like the second one. 

893
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:54,130
And then? 
Toolbar also reported two days 

894
00:42:54,140 --> 00:42:56,400
ago. 
By the way, the Stars Arena team

895
00:42:56,410 --> 00:42:58,900
has access to all of your 
private keys created through the

896
00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:01,240
app. 
Too lazy scammy to even use 

897
00:43:01,250 --> 00:43:04,480
Privy. 
So even though the shared values

898
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:09,380
have rugged you need to withdraw
all Avax to a new fresh wallet 

899
00:43:09,390 --> 00:43:12,640
immediately. 
And that's per that's per FUBAR.

900
00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:15,940
Of course. 
You know, I haven't really 

901
00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:19,420
followed since but obviously 
just reporting on that and and 

902
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:24,110
so that's what it says and. 
You know, I don't know. 

903
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,560
I can't share proof of whether 
or not this is inside or not. 

904
00:43:27,570 --> 00:43:30,190
But all we can say is what we 
said is be careful with your 

905
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,230
funds on these platforms. 
Of course I keep, you know, 

906
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:36,650
playing around with social find 
and keep having fun with it, but

907
00:43:36,690 --> 00:43:39,790
obviously don't keep a lot of 
money in there on any of them 

908
00:43:39,850 --> 00:43:43,410
because you don't want to. 
You know, EB7 for example, woke 

909
00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:46,230
up at like 5:00 AM this morning 
saying like he woke up to like 

910
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,090
texting. 
SIM swapped, right? 

911
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,190
So it's like be careful, like 
I'm in the middle of being SIM 

912
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,810
swapped right now. 
There was also someone that was.

913
00:43:52,930 --> 00:43:55,750
And the block of blockers with 
one of these big CT guys saying 

914
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,470
that people were actively trying
to get into his phone number and

915
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,370
everything and so he was like be
careful to try and go after my 

916
00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:05,250
friend tech again. 
I guess it's fair to say be 

917
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:08,050
careful if you see any weird 
activity on either of us is 

918
00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:11,550
accounts but seems to be more of
a us a problem. 

919
00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:15,050
But you know, like, you know, I 
guess I'll repeat it always for 

920
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,770
for for security reasons like 
man, overnight there's no men 

921
00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:19,890
coming up. 
There's no like we're not about 

922
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:23,340
to, like, offload all our keys 
and do this and do that, right? 

923
00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:26,010
Like if you say anything like 
that, just just you know, let us

924
00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:28,190
know and and be careful. 
But yeah, Mando, did you, did 

925
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,170
you look more into us Into the 
Stars Arena stuff? 

926
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Thoughts or or or should we just
like move on from it? 

927
00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:39,510
Yeah, I think it was. 
It was poorly written, the code.

928
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,190
Clearly they've been hacked 
twice. 

929
00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:47,780
And look, if I'm that, I think 
it's it's like gun, isn't that 

930
00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:49,870
that guy's name who run some 
Avax? 

931
00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:54,100
If I'm him, and this is the 
first app that I've seen on Avax

932
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:58,760
for fucking a year and a half, 
I'm giving them as much money as

933
00:44:58,770 --> 00:45:02,870
they can to fix that problem. 
So I think, I think that's 

934
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,940
probably how this was plugged. 
That's how I can imagine. 

935
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:10,470
And I don't know. 
I have not used Arena. 

936
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,230
It felt like there was some 
people. 

937
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,910
Some people were quick to move 
over there. 

938
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,030
Maybe the people who missed 
friend tech, but. 

939
00:45:21,110 --> 00:45:23,000
I don't know. 
It definitely had a it felt a 

940
00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:26,700
little bit. 
I know worse than frenetic, like

941
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:29,900
people were more disparaging 
about it, but that I think 

942
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:32,800
somebody's never used it. 
So I think you could see a. 

943
00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:35,840
Social fire is going to be a 
trend now. 

944
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:37,950
Like it's already like it's 
already out of the bag. 

945
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,100
So I think people we exploring 
different ways to do it. 

946
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:41,580
Maybe. 
Maybe this survives? 

947
00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:45,980
Yeah listen there's gonna be 
more social apps that pop up. 

948
00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:48,580
Friend tech may not even be the 
winner, but they may. 

949
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:50,620
So you don't even know. 
I just know they have a whole 

950
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:54,300
lot of money to to to build on 
top of what they want to build. 

951
00:45:54,350 --> 00:45:57,480
One thing though. 
To note and to look for the 

952
00:45:57,490 --> 00:45:59,720
front. 
I I again, I was reading food 

953
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:03,290
bars feed this morning about all
the Stars Arena stuff but the 

954
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:05,810
Frontex. 
Smart contract was Oprah source 

955
00:46:05,860 --> 00:46:09,930
since the first day and I know 
Seattle also cat did he put a 

956
00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:12,450
tweet out that he had his team 
like look into it right away as 

957
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:15,010
soon as it came out before he 
aped in and that's why he aped 

958
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:17,070
in. 
So you know when you when you 

959
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,380
when you look into, when you 
look into these apps and all 

960
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:21,820
these new things, of course 
there's hype. 

961
00:46:21,830 --> 00:46:23,820
Of course is going to be big 
people influencers. 

962
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:28,470
You know, big names jumping in 
because like for us, like you 

963
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,990
get into this big app, it's easy
to make money almost right? 

964
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:33,430
But like, that doesn't mean 
everyone's done the research. 

965
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,110
So like, be careful, right? 
Like aping into something just 

966
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,870
because like other people have 
aped into it. 

967
00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:43,990
I was, I was also like you and I
kind of like waited because I 

968
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,430
already have enough trouble like
spending time on Frontex. 

969
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,830
So like I can't really be on 
like 3 different new apps right 

970
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,840
now. 
Yo like so so you know, 

971
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:53,550
struggling to even post on ex 
these days. 

972
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,410
I'm not going to lie. 
So it's. 

973
00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:58,600
You know it's it's tough to to 
keep up so definitely be careful

974
00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:01,040
with all this stuff. 
But anyways, that's that's about

975
00:47:01,050 --> 00:47:03,740
it. 
Round up for today's topics of 

976
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:07,300
the day. 
I know we got T3 in the house 

977
00:47:07,310 --> 00:47:09,960
but quickly. 
Ovie, I don't know if you 

978
00:47:09,970 --> 00:47:15,130
noticed, but Decrypt wrote about
the Saatchi Gallery thing so 

979
00:47:15,140 --> 00:47:17,020
that was really cool as well. 
That happened last week. 

980
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:18,740
I know we covered already but I 
don't want to go over it too 

981
00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:21,860
long but I sure share my screen 
quickly because it just popped 

982
00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:25,250
up in my notifications. 
Sam's let me in. 

983
00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:31,920
Where's Sims at? 
OK guys like Oh my God. 

984
00:47:31,930 --> 00:47:34,600
I used to be able to just share 
my screen fully on the last app.

985
00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:36,450
We use it on restream. 
I have to ask permission. 

986
00:47:36,460 --> 00:47:39,000
I'm like no, stop it. 
But anyways, they wrote about 

987
00:47:39,010 --> 00:47:40,350
it. 
So if you're curious, where are 

988
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,290
the rebels NFT artists invade 
London? 

989
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,280
Saatchi Gallery. 
I love the headline. 

990
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,390
It's so good and he goes a 
selection of works from FTR. 

991
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,330
This forms part of this year's 
Focus Art Fair at the iconic 

992
00:47:57,340 --> 00:47:59,730
Saatchi Gallery, Shada. 
Steven Graves actually got to 

993
00:47:59,740 --> 00:48:03,710
meet him after came up to me and
he was listening to both our 

994
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,760
panels. 
They have OV looking super 

995
00:48:05,770 --> 00:48:11,070
entertained, as he always does. 
Your photo is so funny, dude, 

996
00:48:11,140 --> 00:48:12,440
But you were actually really 
good. 

997
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:14,150
Like all of you. 
Like on the artist paddle. 

998
00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:16,050
And I thought our panel was 
great. 

999
00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:17,660
I finally met the founder of WD 
Creates. 

1000
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:19,690
Awesome. 
Alexander was brilliant. 

1001
00:48:19,790 --> 00:48:22,470
And McCall of course, as usual. 
But yeah, they wrote an article 

1002
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,740
here. 
There's a piece and which by the

1003
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:28,370
way, Congrats. 
That also happened Friday, so we

1004
00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:31,360
didn't really cover it, but 
that's sold out. 

1005
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,130
Settled what, 11.773? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1006
00:48:36,170 --> 00:48:40,990
I'm not going to lie. 
Selfishly, I was looking at it 

1007
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,830
and I was hoping goes lower I. 
Did have the Ledger next to me 

1008
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,890
on the sofa and I was refreshing
foundation. 

1009
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,590
So selfishly, of course I was. 
I was kind of like looking at, 

1010
00:48:56,100 --> 00:49:00,230
looking at looking at that and 
hoping maybe maybe just maybe 

1011
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,590
I'll get it closer to any. 
But it didn't happen. 

1012
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,650
Which is better for my friend. 
So it doesn't matter. 

1013
00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:09,130
I I went, I went both ways. 
So anyways, that's what's up. 

1014
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:10,690
Anyways, let's go back to T 
Tracy. 

1015
00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:13,620
Actually, Jordy is injured. 
Shout to Jordy, I was just 

1016
00:49:13,630 --> 00:49:15,900
talking about your tweet on that
timeline, but you were about 

1017
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:18,180
Stars Arena that shared earlier.
So maybe we should have Jordy at

1018
00:49:18,190 --> 00:49:20,900
some point on the show to talk 
to us about what they're doing 

1019
00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,510
at mental and everything is 
actually brilliant. 

1020
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,870
But anyways, back to T3 here. 
Do we have T3 on video? 

1021
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:33,000
Just three on audio today, Sims.
Audio only got it says you can 

1022
00:49:33,010 --> 00:49:35,020
unmute. 
We can hear your your accent. 

1023
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:38,800
Sometimes people like it. 
No, I just. 

1024
00:49:38,810 --> 00:49:41,060
I prefer to be the one in the 
back pressing the buttons 

1025
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:44,900
alright and not getting blamed 
for the shit topics. 

1026
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Ohh man. 
Night. 

1027
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:49,910
We love you Sam. 
This is the shit. 

1028
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,890
Topics are good topics. 
So that's all that's happening 

1029
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:53,590
in the space right now. 
So we gotta get tops. 

1030
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,490
We have T3, who's this week's 
top artist? 

1031
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,250
What's up T3? 
How you doing, GM? 

1032
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,900
Hey, Hey. 
How are you? 

1033
00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:02,070
How's everything? 
Can you hear me? 

1034
00:50:02,110 --> 00:50:03,800
Yes, Sir. 
We can hear you. 

1035
00:50:03,810 --> 00:50:06,920
And if you're on video with us 
right now, what I'm going to do 

1036
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:09,300
is I'm going to be sharing my 
screen. 

1037
00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:13,220
And so you can see some of the 
work of T3 today. 

1038
00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:16,190
So T3, man, give me, give me 
some, give yourself a little 

1039
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,520
introduction. 
Who are you? 

1040
00:50:17,530 --> 00:50:19,190
What do you do? 
You know when you join the 

1041
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,500
space, you know who is T3. 
Well, I mean I've I've been in 

1042
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:28,150
the space around in let's say 
crypto since maybe 20/16/2017 

1043
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,160
but more like buying cryptos or 
like or investing but. 

1044
00:50:33,980 --> 00:50:38,590
In general, joined as a 
collector maybe started 

1045
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,970
collecting NFT 2019-2020, but 
only as an artist quite 

1046
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:45,230
recently. 
So it's quite it's kind of 

1047
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,150
surreal to be on with you guys 
as an artist. 

1048
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,250
I've been in touch with Ovi a 
few times before. 

1049
00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:55,590
We even traded Red Guy at some 
point, but it's been, yeah. 

1050
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:58,290
So you're right, guy. 
OK, I like that. 

1051
00:50:58,350 --> 00:51:01,150
I like that. 
So you you've traded red guys? 

1052
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,310
That's funny. 
Yeah. 

1053
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,890
Yeah, I love that. 
I find that so good. 

1054
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:10,880
So you start off as a collector.
And then and then you, you, you,

1055
00:51:10,890 --> 00:51:14,520
you, you ended up, you know on 
on the, on the artist side and 

1056
00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:17,940
from what I read for your 
foundation, for your foundation 

1057
00:51:17,950 --> 00:51:22,150
by of course creating I might 
one of 1 masterpieces, one trump

1058
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,760
at a time. 
So let me ask you like what? 

1059
00:51:23,770 --> 00:51:25,470
What got you into the world of 
AI? 

1060
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,240
And also what made you want to 
kind of make the jump right from

1061
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:33,360
collector to artist here? 
Well, honestly still collecting 

1062
00:51:33,370 --> 00:51:37,380
always, but it's been, it's been
fun to experiment with AI. 

1063
00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:40,240
And so with the start of a I I 
was like yeah, I want to use 

1064
00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:43,420
that and sort of have sort of 
like a track record of using it.

1065
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:48,040
In the beginning it was let's 
say you know, generative text 

1066
00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:52,160
based AI and then when you 
started getting these, you know 

1067
00:51:52,170 --> 00:51:56,280
the image AI generation tools, I
was like well this could be fun.

1068
00:51:56,290 --> 00:52:00,160
So let's let's see what it does 
and you know, started 

1069
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:03,020
experimenting with that. 
I was, I was a collector at the 

1070
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:07,460
time and a part of alpha dog as 
a community and a few others, 

1071
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:10,280
one of the modes there. 
So I'm like, yeah, I mean let's 

1072
00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:13,560
let's create some art and have 
fun and started just, you know, 

1073
00:52:13,570 --> 00:52:16,660
giving away, you know, creating 
some stuff, selling some and you

1074
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:18,720
know giving away some to just 
friends. 

1075
00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:23,260
And once I started with the once
the first one, if you go down to

1076
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:25,200
the bottom, orange is the new 
black. 

1077
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:27,380
Well it was. 
I saw it. 

1078
00:52:27,390 --> 00:52:29,130
I was like, man, yeah, that this
is quite cool. 

1079
00:52:29,140 --> 00:52:31,790
Maybe I should just mint this on
east and see what happens. 

1080
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:34,710
And it's been yeah, it's been 
it's been quite surprising I 

1081
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:38,550
think as a as a journey and you 
know my collectors and then 

1082
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,130
friends and everyone has been 
truly awesome and you know, 

1083
00:52:42,140 --> 00:52:45,150
supported me, you know more than
I could have ever imagined. 

1084
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,830
So yeah. 
That's cool. 

1085
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,330
That's awesome. 
I love hearing that. 

1086
00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:49,610
And I love that you're still 
collecting. 

1087
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:51,160
I can see that. 
I mean, it says on your 

1088
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:53,910
foundation the amount of 
artworks you've created. 

1089
00:52:53,970 --> 00:52:57,070
Let me guess, hold on. 
You're also collecting. 

1090
00:52:57,140 --> 00:53:01,340
Creating on Tezos. 
Yeah, I mean I started there and

1091
00:53:01,350 --> 00:53:04,680
I started experimenting on the 
on Tezos and then once I 

1092
00:53:04,690 --> 00:53:07,640
generated this one, I was like 
this looks like an easy piece. 

1093
00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:11,980
So I'm like, let's do it. 
And this is where the whole main

1094
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:15,850
collection let's say, started 
with the storyline and you would

1095
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:18,680
see that there are two 
collections on foundations. 

1096
00:53:18,690 --> 00:53:20,940
So one of them is like an 
experimental one and the other 

1097
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:22,760
one is sort of like let's say 
the main one. 

1098
00:53:22,850 --> 00:53:24,920
And the main one is more of a 
storyline. 

1099
00:53:24,930 --> 00:53:28,580
So when I started with the image
generation, I thought, you know,

1100
00:53:28,590 --> 00:53:30,560
it's only a logical step to see 
that. 

1101
00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:34,090
You know I would soon be able to
create video, right? 

1102
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:37,650
So animation and video. 
And I thought, well, if I can 

1103
00:53:37,660 --> 00:53:42,410
create a story and sort of like 
a mini series in in stills first

1104
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:45,800
and then convert that into let's
say a miniseries in videos and 

1105
00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:49,880
reward holders as I go along 
just for fun, this could be, 

1106
00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:53,470
this could be quite something. 
So I started creating like a 

1107
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,720
story by AI through AI pieces 
and I thought that was quite a 

1108
00:53:58,730 --> 00:54:00,730
unique concept. 
So I don't really know where the

1109
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:03,670
story is heading. 
Just generating scenes every 

1110
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,670
week or whatever and then 
choosing based on that and then 

1111
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,120
starting to generate images that
correspond to those scenes and 

1112
00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:13,430
then just have fun with it. 
So that's basically how the 

1113
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,770
collection went from, you know, 
the Orange is the New Black to 

1114
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:19,450
where it is now. 
And the experimental one is 

1115
00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:23,840
basically to keep up to date 
with the latest tech, you know, 

1116
00:54:23,850 --> 00:54:25,690
availability, what I can do with
it. 

1117
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:29,350
And so I experiment with it and 
drop one of ones just, you know,

1118
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,550
sporadically or whatever, 
whenever it makes sense. 

1119
00:54:33,250 --> 00:54:35,480
OK, cool. 
OK, that's really fun. 

1120
00:54:35,490 --> 00:54:36,560
I love that. 
And so. 

1121
00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:40,780
I'm hearing that you've got two 
pieces for us today, is that 

1122
00:54:40,790 --> 00:54:42,750
right? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1123
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,810
One of them is basically sort of
like a continuation of the 

1124
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:47,370
storyline. 
So the main one. 

1125
00:54:47,380 --> 00:54:49,010
And one of them is an 
experimental 1. 

1126
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:50,740
So like an animation and all 
that I love. 

1127
00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:52,730
I thought it would be cool to 
have both, yeah. 

1128
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,070
Yeah, so let's talk which one, 
Let's talk about Black Body 

1129
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,630
Princess first, cause I've got 
it, I've got it opened up right 

1130
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,950
now on the on the on the stream 
here. 

1131
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,090
So talk to us more about this 
piece that you're experimenting 

1132
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,090
with and I'll play it while you 
talk about it. 

1133
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,780
Yeah I mean that one that one 
the the name actually came from 

1134
00:55:09,790 --> 00:55:14,060
from my friend Bastion who you 
probably are familiar with also 

1135
00:55:14,070 --> 00:55:17,830
very very talented artist and so
he was he was telling me that 

1136
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,540
the shade in the in the sky in 
the background is called is 

1137
00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:24,200
black body and I'm like well 
that sounds like a cool title 

1138
00:55:24,210 --> 00:55:28,060
for a for a piece and and yeah I
mean it was it was inspired by a

1139
00:55:28,070 --> 00:55:32,240
trip that we took with my family
and my daughter to Monza Michel 

1140
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:35,860
at some point last year and so 
it was it was something that. 

1141
00:55:36,010 --> 00:55:39,030
When I when I went there, I was 
struck by by the by the location

1142
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,050
and all that and I thought I 
would create something that you 

1143
00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:44,350
know, that reminded me of that 
trip. 

1144
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:50,200
So, so yeah, I did that and then
the name just came up by by pure

1145
00:55:50,210 --> 00:55:52,810
conversation. 
So it felt like a cool piece for

1146
00:55:52,820 --> 00:55:56,010
you guys to enjoy and hopefully 
you like it as well. 

1147
00:55:56,140 --> 00:55:58,390
No, I love that. 
I I really like that. 

1148
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,350
And I I I I didn't know it was 
called black body. 

1149
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,950
Did you know that, Ovi, When you
create, it's called Black Body 

1150
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:05,690
shiny. 
Guess we learn everyday here. 

1151
00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:07,680
It's really cool. 
And so the other. 

1152
00:56:07,690 --> 00:56:12,340
By the way, all the Ovie has the
has the calmest freak out that 

1153
00:56:12,350 --> 00:56:14,140
I've ever seen. 
I mean the the person who was 

1154
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:18,280
freaking out was probably Farooq
getting the tax from from your 

1155
00:56:18,350 --> 00:56:21,010
from your step, from your, you 
know, the father of your 

1156
00:56:21,020 --> 00:56:22,470
girlfriend and nobody was just 
sitting there. 

1157
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,960
Ohh, I'm freaking out. 
I'm like, yeah, it doesn't 

1158
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:27,580
really look like, man. 
Always very common composed so 

1159
00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:28,700
you know both both. 
Both. 

1160
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:32,100
Both of my costs, both of my 
calls are like are quite are, 

1161
00:56:32,110 --> 00:56:36,060
are quite calm and composed at 
my I think, I think Mando even 

1162
00:56:36,070 --> 00:56:38,370
more. 
You know, coming composed. 

1163
00:56:38,380 --> 00:56:39,720
So actually if. 
I'm freaking. 

1164
00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:41,680
Out. 
I probably call him. 

1165
00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:43,380
So can I stop freaking out? 
You know? 

1166
00:56:43,390 --> 00:56:47,670
I mean. 
You know, so the other piece, I 

1167
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,670
really like this because of the 
name of course Bias here called 

1168
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,650
the, it's called Whispers of the
Morning show, right. 

1169
00:56:55,660 --> 00:56:58,670
So obviously I'm assuming that 
this is much more of a tighter 

1170
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,150
to this morning show. 
It is. 

1171
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,010
It is. 
I mean like, like I said for 

1172
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:07,190
from the storyline essentially I
thought it would be fun to have 

1173
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,530
like a thematic one that sort of
like a reminder of this show. 

1174
00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:14,230
This is my first Twitter spaces 
and at the same time, you know 

1175
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,110
something mean. 
Yeah, yeah, something 

1176
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,890
meaningful. 
So it felt like it was a nice, 

1177
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,310
you know, reminder of that of of
today's conversation and yeah, 

1178
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,670
and tied the storyline to it. 
So you can read the description 

1179
00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:30,670
once you see the piece about how
it fits into you know. 

1180
00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:34,480
The the main story but in the 
same time how rug radio is 

1181
00:57:34,490 --> 00:57:39,140
somehow shaping whatever future 
you know this guy called Don has

1182
00:57:39,450 --> 00:57:42,220
in in his own enterprise. 
So, yeah, no, I love that. 

1183
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:45,020
I mean, it, reads. 
Don sat in his impeccably 

1184
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:49,060
furnished office, his eyes fixed
on the sprawling cityscape 

1185
00:57:49,070 --> 00:57:52,520
outside the window. 
The skyline glittered under the 

1186
00:57:52,530 --> 00:57:55,640
midday sun, a sight that usually
filled him with a sense of 

1187
00:57:55,650 --> 00:57:58,030
accomplishment. 
But today, his mind was occupied

1188
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,560
by the impending interview with 
the rug radio team. 

1189
00:58:00,650 --> 00:58:04,170
A conversation that could. 
Potentially shape the public 

1190
00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:07,250
perception of his company. 
And there's the whole 

1191
00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:08,650
description. 
I'm not gonna read it all 

1192
00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:11,000
because I actually. 
First, no, no, please don't. 

1193
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,130
I didn't expect it to go there, 
but. 

1194
00:58:13,140 --> 00:58:15,810
Yeah, no, but because I also 
want people to just go and read 

1195
00:58:15,820 --> 00:58:17,790
them for themselves, right? 
Because that way you guys go and

1196
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,670
see the piece. 
And also obviously my English is

1197
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,850
back, boys. 
Mando, Ovi, I'm so back I can 

1198
00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:27,540
read again. 
Just last week English was was 

1199
00:58:27,550 --> 00:58:29,910
quite gone, you know a few days 
in London and you can, you know 

1200
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,420
you speak better English but you
know anyway, so that's the 

1201
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:35,240
piece. 
I like this one a lot you know, 

1202
00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:37,230
obviously like the other one, 
but obviously one of the word 

1203
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,260
something's tied to the morning 
show like it's obviously more 

1204
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:41,880
meaningful And so I love that 
and I really like that it's tied

1205
00:58:42,050 --> 00:58:45,440
to your usual you know storyline
and and how you've been 

1206
00:58:45,590 --> 00:58:47,360
creating. 
So you know last question for 

1207
00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:50,060
you here T3 what's next? 
You know what's next? 

1208
00:58:50,070 --> 00:58:52,410
Of course, doing the Subs with 
us, you know the Burns going to 

1209
00:58:52,420 --> 00:58:55,140
be live on Friday, but what? 
What is next? 

1210
00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:56,620
What's next for you, man? 
Like what? 

1211
00:58:56,630 --> 00:59:01,140
What are you looking at doing? 
Yeah, I think, I think I'm just 

1212
00:59:01,150 --> 00:59:04,040
going to enjoy creating 
continued to create as I as I 

1213
00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:06,820
have been and collecting as 
well. 

1214
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:10,860
There is another there's a piece
dropping also with the Dechen 

1215
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:13,260
civilization community with 
Alpha Dog as well. 

1216
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:18,360
I think the Creek or something. 
Also a free claim for for 

1217
00:59:18,370 --> 00:59:22,120
winners and so yeah, I mean this
has been, this has been awesome 

1218
00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:25,630
truly really enjoyed it and 
thank you for having me on 

1219
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,420
otherwise I'm just gonna yeah, I
mean I'm just going to keep 

1220
00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:32,030
creating and sharing and whoever
follows and wants to keep track 

1221
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,930
please feel free to reach out 
happy to discuss anything. 

1222
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,890
Hell yeah. 
Listen, I love that. 

1223
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:42,030
I mean T KHL Underscore 3. 
So that's, that's the Twitter I 

1224
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,170
was sharing it on on the on 
video. 

1225
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:46,920
If you want to check it out, 
make sure check out his work. 

1226
00:59:46,990 --> 00:59:50,790
Gonna be able to to obviously 
burn your stubs and it's usually

1227
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,090
it's no more passcodes required 
so you can go and mint the free 

1228
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:54,610
stops. 
We get free NFT every day on the

1229
00:59:54,620 --> 00:59:56,350
show pretty much and then at the
end of the week you get the 

1230
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,370
claim for different artists 
every single week. 

1231
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,270
The red rum one still open from 
last week and you can and then 

1232
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,620
on Friday you'll be able to get 
the next one which is from T3. 

1233
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:06,870
But make sure you get your free 
stops right so it's pretty cool 

1234
01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:10,490
and so the the the website is 
now live on the video right 

1235
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:12,550
below me so 3. 
Thank you so much for coming 

1236
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,680
man. 
Best of luck Keep killing it. 

1237
01:00:14,740 --> 01:00:16,590
Love to hear that you're 
collecting and creating. 

1238
01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:20,100
Thank you. 
Thank you for having me and have

1239
01:00:20,110 --> 01:00:22,240
a good rest of the day guys. 
I appreciate you. 

1240
01:00:22,290 --> 01:00:23,360
Let's go. 
Alright. 

1241
01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:24,740
Ovi. 
Ovi. 

1242
01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:27,100
Ovi. 
Listen, I would say let's go to 

1243
01:00:27,110 --> 01:00:29,360
the pub, but you know you're not
drinking till our basil. 

1244
01:00:29,370 --> 01:00:31,740
So I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 
stay like to our basil. 

1245
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:33,940
Even yesterday, you know, Danny 
was like, we gotta get over, 

1246
01:00:33,950 --> 01:00:36,220
come out to the pub with us like
he's not gonna come, he's not 

1247
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:37,840
gonna come at the pub. 
He's training. 

1248
01:00:37,930 --> 01:00:40,640
He's done his rocky shit. 
You know, it's going to be crazy

1249
01:00:40,990 --> 01:00:43,680
every single day I, I, I get 
closer and closer and closer. 

1250
01:00:43,690 --> 01:00:46,220
Just book in Dubai. 
You gonna fuck him up? 

1251
01:00:46,330 --> 01:00:48,380
It's going to be great. 
I'm just waiting for you to 

1252
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:50,510
start talking your shit. 
Where it's gonna come and you're

1253
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,490
looking bigger already. 
Show me those guts, yeah? 

1254
01:00:55,390 --> 01:01:00,440
Ohh yo. 
You're muted, by the way. 

1255
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,470
I can't hear you. 
Can you guys hear OV? 

1256
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,080
No. 
Hey, can you hear me? 

1257
01:01:05,090 --> 01:01:06,350
Now ohh yeah I can hear. 
You now? 

1258
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,590
Yeah. 
Ohh yeah I've gained. 

1259
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,230
I need to gain two more kilos. 
I'm I'm 1K into the 3K weight 

1260
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,690
gain. 
So 2 kilos about, £5 yeah, £5 

1261
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:16,380
about. £5, yeah, 4. .4 pounds 
now. 

1262
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:19,230
Still a lot to put on. 
Like, yeah, you know. 

1263
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:22,550
So many calories now from 
working out like. 

1264
01:01:23,470 --> 01:01:25,770
It's really hard to. 
Like, so what's your diet? 

1265
01:01:26,670 --> 01:01:30,300
Um, I wake up and I have six 
dates. 

1266
01:01:30,370 --> 01:01:35,160
A banana. 30 grammes of protein.
Then I go work out. 

1267
01:01:35,170 --> 01:01:36,960
I come back. 
Then I make a smoothie which has

1268
01:01:36,970 --> 01:01:43,130
like. 
Soy milk, oats like 50 grammes 

1269
01:01:43,140 --> 01:01:47,400
of protein, then frozen fruits 
like strawberries or bananas and

1270
01:01:47,410 --> 01:01:51,840
blueberries and stuff that gets 
me like a about 1100 calories 

1271
01:01:52,550 --> 01:01:55,820
and then I have lunch. 
Try and get the protein. 

1272
01:01:55,830 --> 01:02:00,360
Lunch is like 500 calories. 
Then I'll have like a snack, 

1273
01:02:00,370 --> 01:02:05,190
which would be like a protein 
bar or a banana or nuts and 

1274
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,910
stuff. 
Dinner. 

1275
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,710
Try and stick it. 
Stick to like no bread or 

1276
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,370
anything. 
Try sticks like rice, 

1277
01:02:11,620 --> 01:02:15,830
vegetables, meat. 
And then I had like this mass 

1278
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,960
gainer protein shake thing that 
I have at night, which is. 

1279
01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:22,660
Kind of Jesus. 
And he said Ohh, without that, 

1280
01:02:22,670 --> 01:02:24,990
that's the only thing that gets 
me over like the calorie goals, 

1281
01:02:25,090 --> 01:02:27,390
like I can't eat anymore food 
physically and I just have to 

1282
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,210
like chicken. 
Kormas, the way they say on the 

1283
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:32,350
timeline. 
I love that chicken Karma is the

1284
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,950
way. 
Dude, that is absolutely wild. 

1285
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,530
I mean, listen, that's what it 
takes to to beat another man 

1286
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,610
during the crypto Fight Night in
Dubai at the end of November. 

1287
01:02:41,620 --> 01:02:44,720
So I'm excited for that and 
alright, well so I guess, I 

1288
01:02:44,730 --> 01:02:46,570
guess that wraps it up. 
We're on the we're on the hour 

1289
01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:48,610
here. 
Mando thank you for making. 

1290
01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:51,170
I know it was tougher for you as
you just landed in Portugal. 

1291
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,220
But it was a great show. 
And then we'll see everybody 

1292
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:55,400
tomorrow, as usual. 
As usual. 

1293
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,100
As usual, remember this show is 
powered by cracking NFT. 

1294
01:02:58,110 --> 01:03:02,680
So if you go to cracking.com/rug
radio, check out their NFT 

1295
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:04,980
marketplace and platform with 
that. 

1296
01:03:05,230 --> 01:03:08,160
With that, with that, we'll see 
you tomorrow morning, 10:30 AM 

1297
01:03:08,170 --> 01:03:10,630
Eastern Standard Time, 7:30 AM 
Pacific Standard Time for 

1298
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,920
another episode of Jam Web 3 on 
rock radio. 

1299
01:03:12,970 --> 01:03:14,900
Let's go.