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Yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning, Good morning. 
GMG. 

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Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, 
Friday, March 28th, 2025. 

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Look at that. 
Another beautiful day to have a 

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beautiful day. 
I got my clothes to the house. 

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Tyler Manuel, good morning. 
Good morning. 

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Good morning, good morning. 
How you doing today? 

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Good morning, guys. 
Yeah, not, not a great market. 

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Obviously, like I said 
yesterday, it can be very 

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volatile on these days, but it's
more just down today. 

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Yeah, indeed, indeed it is. 
What have your people done? 

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What have your? 
People. 

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Done. 
I mean, your people. 

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You're a guy. 
You're a force. 

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Wake up. 
Hit the sell button the second 

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we're about to squeeze the 
fucking bears, you know? 

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I can't. 
Believe I'm moving to a third 

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world continent sometimes you 
know it's not even third world 

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country. 
It's like a third world whole 

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ass third world continent. 
You know it's. 

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Really tough living here. 
It's, as he said, eating his 

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salad or something like that in 
the sunshine. 22° today so. 

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Yeah, it's -8 today. 
Anyways, Tyler, good morning. 

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How you doing today? 
Nice background. 

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Yeah, I'm good. 
My my son's school, they just 

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randomly take days off. 
So there's off today. 

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So we just decided to go up to 
the new house. 

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I love it. 
Feeling good, It's Friday Bulls.

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I don't talk about Bulls games 
very much. 

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Did you see the the ending 
today? 

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Game was wild last night. 
One of the Wilder NBA finishes. 

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I don't follow the NBA. 
What happened? 

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And the Bulls were down five 
with like 15 seconds to go. 

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They hit two threes within like 
4 seconds. 

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The Lakers went down, scored 
again and then the Bulls player 

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hit a half court 3 buzzer 
beater. 

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Oh, I'm looking at it right now.
It was all over. 

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XI didn't know. 
I'm looking at it right now and.

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It's just a regular season game,
but it was just a really fun. 

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Ending. 
Yeah, but the Lakers are on 

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fire. 
Oh, oh, nice. 

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Yeah, it was a good. 
One nice the Lakers like since 

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that Dunstra train are fucking 
sending it, huh? 

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That's all I know. 
That's all I know. 

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That's all I know about 
basketball, the Los Angeles 

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Lakers, but let's go Bulls. 
We like the bulls, you know, 

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because we are Bulls and because
Scottie Pippen, you know Scottie

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Pippen, that's that, that's our 
boy right there. 

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That's all. 
But we're going to have to get 

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Scottie Pippen on the show at 
some point. 

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I know he's launched like a lot 
of projects, but like we just 

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got to get Scottie Pippen on the
show. 

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You know what I mean? 
A good just to say we got 

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Scottie Pippen or anyway, so the
other show market report, it's 

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Grimm Tyler's top 100. 
It's Grimm that's the 100 

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there's some news we couldn't 
cover yesterday. 

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We covered today. 
We got the homie from infinite 

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objects come in quickly hit me 
up like yo, I got like a 2 

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minute news to share Freemint 
shape Alto. 

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I was like fuck it just come on.
He's a good partner of ours 

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whenever we do events, always 
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screens. 
So he's coming on and then we 

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So packed show today. 
Oh it's gate. 

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OK, we got gate coming. 
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GM, everyone. 
So, yeah, not a great day today.

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We had we had some PCE inflation
data which came in slightly 

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hotter than expected. 
And this is the Fed's main 

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inflation metric that they look 
at. 

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So it kind of probably delays 
any potential dovishness, let's 

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say or it may not, but it's it's
definitely gotten people a 

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little bit more scared about 
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In general, you see macro sell 
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You kind of have stocks down 
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or half a percent to a percent. 
Some of the major tech stocks 

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are not doing well again. 
But yeah, it's caused a bit of a

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dump across the board in in 
crypto. 

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Obviously, as I said yesterday, 
today is a very volatile day. 

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It's very difficult to kind of 
work out what is real and what 

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is is just people playing with 
option expiries. 

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And what that basically means is
just so you're aware, like an 

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option is a is a price with 
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something at a future date. 
And this is, this is the final 

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day for some of those options. 
So people like to gain the price

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so that like they actually have 
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they can do something 
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So you get often, let's say a 
lot of these were set up, I said

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90K, there would have been a 
lot, but maybe a lot of these 

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are set at 85. 
People might be driving it below

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85 just until the option expiry 
ends and then it will snap back.

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And this is important in markets
where option size often is much 

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bigger than the actual spot 
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So on quiet periods that can 
sometimes be the case and and 

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people can can smash it around a
little bit more than than kind 

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of expected. 
But there is obviously some 

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macro weakness there. 
It looks like we are 

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underperforming macro. 
I would say this morning so far 

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Bitcoin being down 3% on the 
back of that seems like a bit of

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an overreaction. 
Tech stocks have not really not 

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really been affected that much 
by it, if I'm honest, like down 

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1 to 2%, but like not not like 
getting hammered. 

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And it looks like Bitcoin 
dominance is is going back up to

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62% again. 
Yeah, damn. 

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Because ETH is getting smashed 
in this in this process again. 

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ETH has gone comfortably below 
1900 again. 

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God damn. 
Every time, eh? 

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And that's affected. 
It's affected across across the 

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border like Salaam is back below
130. 

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Yeah, Hype 13 1/2. 
I'm trying to think. 

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We told Sonic's down about 7%. 
All the L ones are really down 

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about 5 to 10% here. 
It's it's, it's definitely not a

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great day. 
Yeah, it's definitely not a 

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great day. 
Indeed, man, Ethan's Regis gets 

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keeps on getting smashed down. 
It's actually pretty wild we 

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have. 
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, 

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isn't it? 
Like we always say, maybe this 

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is the time for ETH and then and
then three. 

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Time, man. 
It gets it gets really bad like.

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This, I mean look at this like 
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like it wants to RIP higher. 
Probably will. 

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Probably will. 
Yeah. 

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Fuck it's it's actually 
impressive how aggressively it 

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dumps. 
Like it kind of dumps like all 

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the other alts now it feels like
at least, yeah. 

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Or worse, like the East chart 
doesn't. 

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I'm not. 
Even trying to dunk on Earth. 

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I'm just saying like it's like 
pretty aggressive. 

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Nearly down. 
It didn't. 

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It's kind of at the lows of 
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everything was getting smashed, 
which. 

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Yeah, bro. 
Middle of the middle of the 

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month. 
Most other stuff have actually 

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has actually bounced more than 
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Like slums at 15. 
It's now at 129, Ethan. 

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Alts bounce pretty well as well,
right? 

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Ethan is kind of at that low 
level, so yeah, it's definitely 

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not been the strongest on the 
bounce either. 

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Yeah, OK, well, we'll see where 
life takes us, y'all. 

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We'll see where life takes us. 
Reminder, Liberation Day is 

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around the corner. 
Imagine like April first. 

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Like they go psych. 
Just kidding. 

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The tears were a joke. 
You know, it's actually ironic 

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this April 2nd. 
I think it purposely didn't do 

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April first. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like that we got to do April 2nd
or else nobody's going to take 

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it seriously. 
But OK, look, we'll see where 

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the market takes us. 
But right now, 8431291879 and 

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all low far coin back to 470 
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Looks like we'll have another 
shot at that trade. 

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So for those of you who missed 
it, clearly me, maybe, maybe 

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we'll get a we'll be able to get
Yeah Pepe down. 

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Here I'm invested. 
I'm invested. 

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I'm invested, yeah, but I'm spot
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care. 
You fully deployed or you? 

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I'm not fully, but I'm very, but
this time around, like I, I, I 

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took enough to like really 
'cause I'm moving right, 'cause 

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I'm like, I want to live good, 
you know? 

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So like, you know, I want to 
rent a really dope place, you 

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know what I mean? 
So we've been, you know, I like,

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you know, I'm deployed in a way 
that like I could chop for 

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another, like, you know, I could
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That could be very chilling, you
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Yeah. 
Yeah, like smartly, cautiously 

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deployed, but deployed as fuck. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, look, I, I thought I 
genuinely was, I guess I was 

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wrong or in short term, I could 
be wrong. 

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I could be right tomorrow. 
For what it's worth, like you're

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saying, end of quarter, end of 
month, like everything's 

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closing. 
I was actually under the 

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impression that the market was 
recovering in a very positive 

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way. 
So then I kept holding strong 

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above 127 mark hundred 30s all 
week long. 138 could even break 

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down for the last few days 
Bitcoin above 8888 seven even at

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some point I was convinced 
personally that we would hit 

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that 1992 K mark. 
I was really sure of that that 

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was sure of. 
So I was obviously completely 

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wrong so far on that. 
And I was, I was actually on 

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ironically, I thought theorem 
was kind of like rock bottomed 

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out at 1800, but we're back 
there. 

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So clearly on the short term 
like weekly basis, I'm wrong 

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here, but I don't know. 
I I was trying to feel more 

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optimistic. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It looks like it's about to 
literally reverse. 

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It's looks really bad, Like it's
not like we're trying to be 

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like, fuck, I mean, Tyler, I 
guess you're in a similar boat 

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as me. 
Like you and I were talking and 

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what was it the day Mandel 
wasn't around? 

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We're like, yo, we're cautiously
bullish. 

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I guess that's why it's Mandela.
Cautiously bullish. 

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But like, you know, I don't 
know. 

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I'm surprised this morning. 
I'm not gonna lie. 

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I woke up this morning. 
I generally thought going into 

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bed where I would wake up at 
higher prices. 

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Really. 
In 2018, Heath got to around 

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1500, 2018. 
What? 

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Wow. 
And we're there now? 

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Pretty much. 
Well, we're 20% off, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
So anyways, that was that was my

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outlook. 
Yeah, I, I just shared a, a 

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video. 
So like it doesn't help that 

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Elon is retweeting these videos 
of people calling for a short, 

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deep recession. 
So I think that's the type of 

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things that are spooking people 
in the markets, right? 

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Like we, we talked about short 
term pain. 

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It seemed like we kind of talked
ourselves into this last two 

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weeks that maybe the short term 
pain had mostly been felt in the

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markets already. 
And then you've got the guy who 

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who's leading, you can make an 
argument that he he's leading a 

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lot of decision making of the 
administration. 

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He's leading the cuts of Doge, 
posting videos that are calling 

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for short, deep recessions. 
Is that? 

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What that's that? 
That's the person talking. 

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But he's explaining like what 
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deep recession and. 
Then all I see is Elon retweets 

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and upgrade your IRA to Bitcoin.
It's it's, it's on this 

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unchanged show and the guy's 
wearing an incredible shirt. 

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It's already been jubilified 
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Quite. 
But there there's like kind of 

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hitting us over the head with 
these messages, right? 

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And like I, I thought best sense
commentary in the last couple 

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weeks had kind of walked back 
from that. 

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But I don't know if these two 
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degree about how much pain they 
want here in the near term. 

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a we're not going to know which 
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April 2nd. 
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going to get some massive 
resolution and we're just going 

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to know for sure. 
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then, we're just going to chop 
up and down. 

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And then perhaps we'll know more
later next week. 

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That's my current read. 
But it also looks like Mando's, 

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you know, call that we're going 
to chop for six to nine months 

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feels more realistic than ever 
held. 

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We're already three months into 
it. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
It's always, it's always like 

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that, right? 
It's it, it's at this stage like

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this time around, I would 
genuinely think I was thinking 

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more optimistic we'd squeeze and
we didn't. 

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So probably the next time around
I'm not going to believe in it 

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and we're going to squeeze and 
go higher, but at least. 

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But that's the beauty of being 
in spot, right? 

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It's like, yeah, sure, I I, I'm 
down on all the soul. 

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I bought the over the last week,
but my muscle not like phased, 

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you know, it's like, OK, like 
what in two weeks we could be 

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back to like 150 bucks and it's 
like, OK, cool, you know, so 

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spot so was good. 
But yeah, I believed. 

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I believed boys. 
I got pulled up last night too, 

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like Ponzi trails. 
Like yeah, it's long, long. 

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I'm gonna buy new cars like 
yeah, I'm gonna ape into a crazy

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wedding fucking 0 this morning. 
You know they they don't. 

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That doesn't. 
Seem like a good converb. 

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That's the thing that we were 
grinding up. 

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We knew we had the options 
expiring today. 

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It was looking. 
Good you. 

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Know flip we could maybe flip 
green today but. 

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Mando got us bulled up 
yesterday's like yo that Myriad 

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market line 89 K that's going. 
To what I said, which I agree, I

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just it wasn't taking account 
volatility and maybe volatility 

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went down the other way. 
Today. 

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No, no, no, no, that's it. 
You said like we're going to the

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millions, like I believed it at 
90K. 

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That was my trade, so my whole. 
Trade move is nothing. 

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The whole. 
The whole screen I put on yeah, 

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you're right, you're right. 
And you, you, you place it right

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because you're like, yo, it's 
just 2% to hit that market. 

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You know what I mean? 
It's like, it's like that's all 

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it took. 
So anyways, it's we'll see where

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that goes. 
Look, it's Friday tomorrow. 

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It could be literally the the 
other way around and that we'll 

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be sold back. 
So anyways, Tyler, let's get to 

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your topics. 
See what you got for us. 

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But quickly the code today will 
give it to you right now is 

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predict. 
Go figure. 

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Wow, what a big brain code 
predict raffle bot dot XYZ shit,

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I got into the box actually 
raffle bot dot XYZ The code is 

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predict PREDICT predict is the 
code today if you want to have a

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chance to win a pudgy Penguin 
and or Oh no just or actually or

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crypto punk on FOMO or Tyler. 
Let's see what you got for us 

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FOT and crypto analysis Tyler T 
on FOMO our cause the kids. 

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Can Yeah, folks, crypto major's 
very red this morning with a 

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near record setting $12 billion 
of Bitcoin options set to expire

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later today. 
It looks like those might expire

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in the Max Payne zone, per QCP 
Capital. 

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Below the 85K mark we have Ross 
Ulbricht. 

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He's back on the timeline, 
teasing Silk Road 2 in a cheeky 

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post yesterday on X Elizabeth 
Warren calling the stablecoin 

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bill a grift and accusing Trump 
and Elon of using stablecoins to

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enrich themselves. 
So political divide there. 

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Still in in politics, We also 
had House Majority Whip Tom 

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Emmer slam that Wyoming 
stablecoin, effectively calling 

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it a CBDC. 
So we'll see who. 

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Goes Tether is investing outside
of crypto. 

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They they had major investments 
in media and agriculture 

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companies as they're looking to 
diversify and then the safe 

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foundation going deeper into D 
side. 

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They're exploring the 
acquisition of 23andMe after 

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23andMe's recent bankruptcy and 
perhaps putting the user's DNA 

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data on chain. 
Oh God. 

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We'll see where that one goes. 
Token AirDrop and protocol news 

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we talked about Walrus said they
had a huge day. 

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That token went to $0.60 and a 
$3 billion MTV at P. 

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It was closer to $0.50 and 2 
1/2. 

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This morning, Jupiter Air 
dropped to their Ape Pro users 5

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million JUP tokens. 
That's two and a half million 

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bucks for those who've been 
using that app. 

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Vertex officially launched on 
Avalanche as a new DEX for spot 

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and perps with ABAX rewards for 
Deep by traders. 

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Gunzilla Games also an ABAX is 
going to launch an ABAX L1, the 

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GUNS network and their GUN token
on March 31st going live on 

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Binance right away. 
Also a 4% token allocation to 

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that Binance launch pool. 
And Myriad launched a new market

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tied to that Radium launch lab. 
We we heard from the the radium 

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launch, one of the radium 
founders that this this launch 

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lab was going to come in the 
next week. 

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Bettors are are called in a 
bluff. 

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Bettors were no on this one. 
I thought that was interesting. 

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Also $1 million in in in 
lifetime action. 

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So that was a nice milestone to 
see in AI memes and NF TS AI 

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market down about 7%. 
Not a huge surprise there. 

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Meme coin leaders down again. 
In line with that, Ghibli was 

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the story again of the day. 
It reached $40 million, a peak, 

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a new all time high after crack 
enlisted it, and then also a 

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controversial White House tweet 
style. 

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We may have to talk about that 
in a. 2nd we have to. 

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Balk's getting into the art 
game, folks. 

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Balk Acquired exchange art with 
the goal preserving and 

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elevating Unchained art collect,
so I didn't have that one on my 

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bingo card for the day. 
Taproot Wizards. 

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They finally minted out their 
collection point 0.31 Bitcoin 

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was the final resting price that
actually went under my over 

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under prediction, but still a 
very strong result. 

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Doodles unveiled their Dreamnet 
as a decentralized protocol for 

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building shared story universes 
powered by dude. 

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It's kind of like a a virtual AI
platform, but in the doodles 

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verse. 
Yeah, that rounds out the 

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headlines. 
OK, OK, OK. 

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I, I, I love that There's a lot.
Should we start with this White 

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House thing? 
We we can if you want, yeah. 

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I mean, we don't have to go too 
deep and get all political about

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holy shit, I, I had to get a 
second take to see if that was a

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real White House tweeted that 
the Ghibli, the Ghibli, God damn

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it, Tyler Gibby Gibby's got in 
my head. 

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I mean, that was wild. 
That was it. 

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Is it gone now? 
Oh, they just tweet a lot trying

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to find it. 
Yeah, I caught a lot. 

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Is it gone 15 hours ago? 
So they so take me through this.

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So they. 
Yeah, there it is. 

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Oh my God, that's crazy. 
So, so clearly someone at the 

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White House is at least plugged 
in to what's happening with open

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AI and, and the O4 model and the
Studio Ghibli viral trend that 

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took place. 
And they, they opted to make a 

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giblified image of this woman. 
Who the the back story here is 

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she was arrested. 
She's an was an illegal alien 

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arrested for fentanyl 
trafficking, was deported from 

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the US illegally got back in the
US and was arrested at the 

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Philadelphia airport and they 
gibble find an image of her 

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being arrested. 
And I, I think a part of the 

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negative reaction to this, 
there's there's multiple reasons

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to be upset. 
I think 1 is like, this is not a

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very esteemed way, you know, for
one of the the leading countries

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in the world, if not the leader 
to be acting or posting on 

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social media has the the racial 
component as well like. 

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On the flip side, I, I do 
understand what they're doing. 

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Like one of Trump's 
foundational, he's going after 

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right now is fentanyl 
trafficking. 

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This is like a foundational 
example of what he's trying to 

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stop. 
This is someone who got into the

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country illegally trafficking 
fentanyl, like in his back, 

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trying to do it again. 
And they're, they're sending a 

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message. 
And I mean, I think at, at this 

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point, we know Trump's style. 
He, he's not trying to be the 

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most diplomatic person, he's 
trying to send messages. 

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And they, they sent a message 
here. 

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I feel like you probably signed 
off on that one. 

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I I don't know that that was 
going rogue. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
I mean, there's probably layers 

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to signing up on all these 
things, right? 

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That was crazy. 
I think, I think nobody had a 

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problem with the fact that 
they're sending a fentanyl 

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trafficker back home after they 
re entered illegally. 

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I think people had a problem 
with because I read a ton of 

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comments about it because of me.
At first I was like on the edge.

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I was like, like, where which 
way should I stand on that one? 

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Because we're probably going to 
fucking cover on the show. 

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And I was like, well, yeah, 
maybe let's not post like 

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cartoons. 
Because the thing about by 

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cartoonifying the drug dealer, 
you kind of made them look like 

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a victim when they're not really
victim. 

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Like, they're literally like 
dealing fentanyl to Americans. 

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Like they don't deserve to be in
America, right? 

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So it which? 
90% of people probably aren't 

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going to do any research, 
they're just going. 

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To but yeah, that that piece of 
fentanyl trader that was kicked 

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out of America then came back 
illegally again and start 

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fentanyl trading again, dealing 
again. 

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So that person by all means 
should not be in that country. 

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But like, I guess the problem is
like, you've cartoonified 

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something very serious, and they
kind of played themselves by 

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doing that because they kind of 
made that person look like a 

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victim because the cartoon looks
like she's the victim when he's 

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not a victim, he's a criminal. 
Yeah, right. 

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You know, it looks like on the 
surface, it looks like here's 

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Trump celebrating, kicking out. 
Right. 

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Latino woman. 
Exactly like you know, and then 

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then you look at the picture 
Lauren, it's like, oh, it looks 

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like a person of color getting 
kicked out of the country, but 

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that person is actually not 
probably should have been there 

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in the 1st place. 
So that was crazy, the 

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Ghibliification of things. 
I have to say though, I'm having

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fun with it, man. 
My family pics and stuff that 

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we've been playing around team 
chat yesterday we Ghibli fight 

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Sims with like was coming out of
his head and everything stemming

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Mendo. 
You're like you're quite the 

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meme guy yourself and what did 
you? 

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What did you make of all this? 
Yeah, I haven't done, I haven't 

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done a Ghibli yet. 
No, not at all. 

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You're a big fat GPT guy. 
I know I don't know why OSF put 

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one in our group chat today, but
yeah, I, I need to get, I need 

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to start. 
I think they're going to start 

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slowing down because they said 
that it's like melting their GPU

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and stuff. 
Everyone's doing it. 

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I mean, here's my take. 
So people are, are associating 

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this new O4 model update, which 
is just an image generator with 

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Studio Ghibli. 
Like you can, you can create any

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style of art image, but the, the
major unlock here is that it, it

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was very difficult before to, to
create an image off of like a 

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source, a source piece. 
And now it's much easier to do 

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that very quickly in any style 
that you want. 

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I actually feel, as I've been 
digging into this, it feels like

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the biggest 0 to one AI moment 
we've had since the launch of 

448
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,600
ChatGPT with respect to the 
impact it's going to have. 

449
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,120
Like basically anything in the 
creative world, the advertising 

450
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,400
world. 
Like I think there was a, 

451
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,600
there's a large impact here. 
Like just like for example, like

452
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,160
I mocked up a wrecked ad. 
It took me 15 seconds. 

453
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,520
And now someone like Ovie who 
knows, like has a vision for 

454
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,120
what he wants his ad campaign to
do. 

455
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,040
Maybe previously had to go to a 
designer. 

456
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,000
He could probably, and he's an 
artist. 

457
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Maybe that's a bad example, but 
he can do it easily himself now 

458
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,920
and like the ability to be like 
a one stop shop founder designer

459
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,640
like you, you can run a business
yourself basically. 

460
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200
And it's getting easier and 
easier to do that. 

461
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,520
And this one felt like a big, a 
really big unlock for me. 

462
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,680
Yeah, that does make sense. 
All right, So what else Tyler? 

463
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,640
What else is new in? 
So Ghibli the the token went to 

464
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,800
40 million. 
So it's it's now coming back 

465
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,000
down. 
But I do have to quick, quick 

466
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,880
meme coin discussion. 
I know we got to keep moving 

467
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,280
forward here. 
I'm sending you a tweet. 

468
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,720
Are we on the upward roller 
coaster loops? 

469
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,640
So we had like a routine come 
out. 

470
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,000
It got to like 1520 million. 
Giblade just came out. 

471
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720
It got to 40. 
This is missing please by the 

472
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040
way. 
Yeah, so please, actually they 

473
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,280
selectively took please off 
because please got to 50. 

474
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,080
But the opium here for for those
in the meme streets back-to-back

475
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,360
starting to go a little higher. 
I think there is some signs of 

476
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,680
capital starting to return. 
People are paying attention 

477
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360
again. 
So we'll see by by no means do I

478
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,000
think we're seeing any major 
runners anytime soon, especially

479
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,600
if backers going to keep going 
like this, but there was going 

480
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,240
to be some opportunities in the.
Trend. 

481
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,200
Yeah, I don't know. 
I mean, you, you're the one 

482
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,440
tweeting all cryptic shit, you 
know, What do you think you're 

483
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,480
the one being cryptic, you know,
you get out, you know, man, 

484
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,480
though, Tyler gets all the CAS, 
you know, all of them. 

485
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040
All of them. 
He had this last one at $1 

486
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,600
million, you know, it's painful.
Tyler, what do you think? 

487
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,080
I mean, it's you cripting tweet,
tweeting cryptic stuff here. 

488
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,400
What do you think? 
What are you? 

489
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,760
Tyler did his thoughts. 
I think we're going to have 

490
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,560
bigger opportunities. 
Not like that. 

491
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,880
I mean, do you think downtrends 
like if you studied last cycle, 

492
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,520
like last year, like 2023 was 
like you only had small cokes, 

493
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,960
It was just Morgan Pepe, right? 
Small, small, small, small, then

494
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760
it kept kind of growing and 
right. 

495
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,760
So the question this time around
is, is it those Mons that are 

496
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,600
going to pump when we start 
rallying again? 

497
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,600
So the 23 one, so Mark Pepe for 
coin, the whiffs, all those, or 

498
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,480
is it going to be this one? 
You mean that's going to come 

499
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,760
out during this period right now
and go to like $2 billion? 

500
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,400
I don't know. 
I don't have an answer. 

501
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,280
No, we'll see. 
OK, that's great. 

502
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,600
What else? 
I mean, can we talk about this 

503
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,760
polymarket thing from Andrew? 
Yeah. 

504
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Let's talk about the polymarket 
story. 

505
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,360
So the headline that came out 
yesterday was effectively the 

506
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,160
polymarket team came out and 
acknowledged there's a situation

507
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,520
where Uma Wales manipulated a 
market. 

508
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480
They said basically we we can't 
compensate users, but we're 

509
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600
going to try to fix this in the 
future. 

510
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,960
So the the market in question 
here was Ukraine agrees to a 

511
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:03,000
Trump mineral deal before April.
So this market should be closing

512
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,880
this upcoming Monday evening at 
midnight. 

513
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:13,280
And it had been trending down 
below 20% because like this deal

514
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,840
was being talked about, but it 
was not being formally executed.

515
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:23,880
And then last week or just a few
days ago, it resolved to yes and

516
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,200
a lot of betters disputed this 
and effectively that the UMA 

517
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,920
whales and control were able to 
overweight the vote as I 

518
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,280
understand it and get it to 
resolve to yes. 

519
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Despite they say any objective 
opinion or any of the objective 

520
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,640
facts in the situation or this 
deal has not been done. 

521
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,120
And Polymarket themselves said 
that that no, this market should

522
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,960
not be resolved. 
If it was up to us, effectively 

523
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,360
it would still be live until the
end of the month. 

524
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,000
There's. 
Nothing they can do and that. 

525
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:02,120
No, you can't. 
And they did say this is not, 

526
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,400
you know, in their defense, they
had, they said nice things. 

527
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,040
They said this is not a part of 
the future they want to build. 

528
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,880
They also said it wasn't a 
market failure. 

529
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,640
I guess this this is in line 
with the the procedures they 

530
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,920
have in place. 
They said they're going to work 

531
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,080
with the UMA team to to try to 
avoid. 

532
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,800
I think the issue here is this 
is not the first time that 

533
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,960
something like this has 
happened. 

534
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Yeah, it happened during the 
popcat thing, right? 

535
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,840
When someone whipped popcat to a
billion quick and there was a 

536
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,640
whole voters process and 
everything. 

537
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,120
I think I remember that like 
first cat to a billion. 

538
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,840
Yeah, there's, there's a handful
of these. 

539
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,560
I think there's been a few folks
who've been deep in this on 

540
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,960
Twitter, this her Manson person 
that has flagged several markets

541
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,320
where he's manipulation. 
I have not gone through all of 

542
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,000
them to really have a a position
but but this one seems pretty 

543
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160
cut and dry but especially with 
Polymark coming out and saying 

544
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,880
like this was not the correct 
resolution on this so. 

545
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,080
They did the right thing coming 
out saying that, by the way. 

546
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,800
Yeah, they did like there's some
pros and cons here. 

547
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880
It does again, and these are 
outliers. 

548
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,960
These are exceptions like this 
is not happening for 9599% of 

549
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,880
the markets out there. 
But it does kind of put in 

550
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,600
question, I get these UMA whales
can can do this. 

551
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,080
It's hard to put a whole lot of 
capital into potentially be 

552
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,120
manipulated. 
So I'm curious, I'm curious for 

553
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,080
your thoughts on this as someone
who is launching your own 

554
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
prediction market and how do you
to avoid this? 

555
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,120
It's tough, right? 
Like the whole because you know 

556
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,640
what, it's the case divorce too.
We're early like genuinely, am I

557
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,960
even trying to meme like we are 
really early in this prediction 

558
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,640
market boom. 
I know pressure markets have 

559
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,440
been in existence by the 
pressure markets have been in 

560
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,200
existence forever, but this neo 
form of prediction market is 

561
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000
like ready new. 
And then the explosion of 

562
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,680
polymarket over the last 
presidential election in the USA

563
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040
accelerated things in a really 
crazy way, then came in Kashi 

564
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
etcetera. 
So I don't think we have hit the

565
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,320
spot where we have the perfect 
Oracle yet. 

566
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,800
We speak about this a lot. 
It's ironic. 

567
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
I have a call with UMA in like 
less than an hour. 

568
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400
But it's, you know, I know that 
Polymarket and UMA have been 

569
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,320
working with Celestia, if I'm 
not mistaken, to try and build 

570
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
the UMA Oracle V2. 
So I think it's just a situation

571
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
where the tech is just not 
caught up to like how big this 

572
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,480
industry is and it's becoming, 
you know, I don't even think, 

573
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,920
like I said, oh, blame 
Polymarket and like throw them 

574
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,200
under the bus like they fucked 
it. 

575
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,560
It's like it was games, you 
know, and clearly means that 

576
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,880
we're not there yet in terms of 
technology for production 

577
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,320
markets. 
So hopefully it'll be fixed, 

578
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,480
man. 
But yeah, even us internally, 

579
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760
man, like for us at the moment, 
like we're open about it's a 

580
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,760
centralized Oracle, right? 
Like everything's centralized 

581
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,520
over at over at myriad markets, 
right? 

582
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,160
It's everything. 
That's why I'm not predicting 

583
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,680
right is because it's, it's 
fully centralized. 

584
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280
The moment we can make the 
markets, we create the lines, we

585
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,680
resolve it internally. 
We create like we, we, we do all

586
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,520
the research ourselves until we 
can like slowly decentralize the

587
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,400
decision making and the creation
like just a world where like 

588
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,320
myriad, one day the markets, you
guys are going to vote for 

589
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,200
creating the markets and you 
guys are going to vote for where

590
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440
it, it, how it resolves and 
whatnot. 

591
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,160
But we're just not there yet. 
I think it's decision that we're

592
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,360
a little too early, but I'm 
expecting this to grow really 

593
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,960
fast because the more blows 
there is like this one, you 

594
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,080
know, the more it's going to 
hurt that that the game is all. 

595
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,280
So I'm hoping to fix it, right. 
It's good for my business. 

596
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360
So it's and I wouldn't be 
surprised to see more and more 

597
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,400
oracles come on. 
I'm curious about Polymarket and

598
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,080
UMA V2. 
It's something to pay attention 

599
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,080
to because I have a feeling that
there's going to be a model 

600
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,360
where like, you know, UMA 
becomes just an Oracle product 

601
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,600
for prediction markets. 
And then you can, you know, each

602
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,040
prediction market can have its 
own token where it's resolved 

603
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,600
with that one rather than the 
UMA token. 

604
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000
So maybe that's fixed a little 
bit, but we're definitely not 

605
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,520
there yet. 
You guys been watching what's 

606
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
going on GME stock? 
What's going on? 

607
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
It's. 
Down 25. 

608
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,200
Percent. 
Oh wow. 

609
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,720
Five. 
No 20. 

610
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,240
No, 25%. 
Yesterday it was down 25% and 

611
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,440
the GameStop faces New York 
Stock Exchange trading 

612
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,120
restriction after short volume 
surges 234% in 24 hours. 

613
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Oh my God. 
Yeah, Bitcoin news. 

614
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Yeah, exactly. 
They don't like the Bitcoin 

615
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,960
news. 
Look at that. 

616
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,000
Look at that for Red Candle. 
God damn it, Mendo tried to tell

617
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,240
us that was the top yesterday. 
I didn't. 

618
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760
I just said it's risky. 
It is no. 

619
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,560
You made a great point yesterday
on the on the risk of this. 

620
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,160
Wow. 
Where is Roar and Katie when we 

621
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,200
need them? 
Where is roaring Kitty when we 

622
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,120
need him? 
Anyways, let's let's keep moving

623
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200
through his topics. 
I see Joe in the in the in the 

624
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,240
store. 
I'll bring you up in a minute 

625
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,320
and I see Kevin. 
Can't wait to talk to my boy 

626
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Kevin over a gate here. 
I got a a few questions for you.

627
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280
I see you. 
I see you, but quickly, Tyler. 

628
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000
What else was there? 
There was a couple other like 

629
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,080
nice headlines that you had for 
us today. 

630
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,200
Yeah, I'd say the Doodles news, 
what was probably one of the 

631
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,800
other bigger headlines of the 
day here. 

632
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,680
So they unveiled Dreamnet. 
This is the new decentralized 

633
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160
protocol for building what 
they're calling shared story 

634
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,120
universes powered by tokens. 
So here anyone can come in, they

635
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200
can create characters, create 
worlds, create lore, and then 

636
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,400
they will all become tokenized. 
In some ways, it's kind of like 

637
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,920
a virtual launchpad where you 
can create your own AI agents 

638
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,640
with their own personalities. 
You create swarms of agents 

639
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520
here. 
You could do that within as a 

640
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,800
story world effectively. 
So so that's the the protocol 

641
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,560
that they're building here with 
Dreamnet. 

642
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,160
They announced their doodle dude
token tokenomics, 10 billion 

643
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280
supply. 
It's going to start on Solana, 

644
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,800
68% to the community, 30% going 
to to doodles and tea holders. 

645
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,960
So pretty healthy chunk there, 
13% for new blood and growth and

646
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,360
then 25% for the ecosystem. 
And then they go into the token 

647
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,800
use cases. 
But basically the token will be 

648
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,000
a medium of exchange across this
doodles universe, required to 

649
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,360
create, contribute and then 
interact within. 

650
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,680
The Street. 
So it it it was a lengthy white 

651
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,120
paper. 
It is. 

652
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,760
I skimmed it yesterday. 
I I will admit I have not 

653
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,520
wrapped my head around this 
entire thing. 

654
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,400
I think I have a handle on it at
at least the the 2000 foot view 

655
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,320
or 20,000 foot. 
View Whoa, the lot. 

656
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,600
There's a lot coming there. 
I appreciate the work that was 

657
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,360
put into this. 
At first glance I haven't read 

658
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,159
it, but I appreciate that 
clearly they're really going 

659
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,960
deep into this. 
If you're a doodles maxi and 

660
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,000
you're deep in the lore and, and
you want to contribute to 

661
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,320
building out the doodles first, 
I think you, you love this. 

662
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Right, I agree because it's not 
just the hey, we're launching a 

663
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:43,920
shit coin. 
Here you go. 

664
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,840
It's like, hey, like we're kind 
of thing this through and it was

665
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,120
really wrongly timed the thing 
right. 

666
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,480
They announced that they're 
launching a token, then they 

667
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,760
announced the Solana thing. 
Then fucking Libra happened. 

668
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,360
I was with Austin Hurwitz, like 
we we were on the same flight 

669
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,600
from from Paris to to Hong Kong 
and I was and we were on the 

670
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,840
line. 
I was like, dude, like what a 

671
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,240
timing. 
Like we landed in Hong Kong. 

672
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,040
The Libra thing happens and he 
was like, damn, bro, it's just 

673
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,560
like so crazy. 
Talk about time. 

674
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Like they announced their token 
on Solana, then bang Black Swan.

675
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,760
So sad to them for kind of going
back to the drawing board or not

676
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,120
like maybe this is what they had
planned all along. 

677
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,560
So I don't want to assume but 
and and figuring something out. 

678
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,840
OK. 
Well, Tyler, looks like you've 

679
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,600
been around pretty well, unless 
there's something I missed, but.

680
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,400
Those are the big ones. 
If you used Jupiter's 8 Pro 

681
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,200
trading app, just go check out 
and see if you got an AirDrop 

682
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080
call to action. 
Yeah, you can put an AirDrop 

683
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,600
claim for for tokens. 
They have a million tokens for 

684
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,440
grabs. 
And then the Elizabeth Warren 

685
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
stuff, that's a longer 
conversation We can get into the

686
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,280
the risks of the publicization 
of crypto maybe the next week. 

687
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,280
Yeah, it's the longer combo. 
Let's talk about it on the on 

688
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,560
the on Monday or something. 
Just ironic that when it comes 

689
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,440
from Elizabeth Warren. 
But you know, you know the one 

690
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,920
person that didn't do their job 
right Anyways, also, for those 

691
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,920
of you who want to win this 
raffle predict is the code 

692
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,480
rafflebot that XYZ predict. 
And also make sure you check out

693
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,560
my pin tweet, especially if 
you're participating in Myriad, 

694
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,080
if you know what Myriad's all 
about. 

695
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,080
I publish the report. 
So I do it every month. 

696
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,560
I publish, report on myriad 
markets. 

697
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440
I transparently show all of our 
statistics, open the curtain. 

698
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,240
I want everybody to see where 
we're at, how we're doing. 

699
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,640
So we hit $1,000,000 last night.
We're about to hit 1.1. 

700
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,760
You know what, HIP helped? 
We opened 2E sports markets last

701
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,480
night and they're booming. 
Yeah, people really like them. 

702
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640
So we're testing with different 
markets because, you know, it's 

703
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,400
like boring at the end if you 
just do like your ingredient 

704
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,200
stuff. 
So the radium one, will Radium 

705
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,360
launch a pump funk competitor 
before April 2 is a pretty 

706
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,800
interesting one. 
It's like a coin toss because 

707
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,880
they did announce it, but they 
didn't say like what, when. 

708
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,640
And then we have two gaming 
markets, which I don't 

709
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,600
understand anything about them, 
but Sims was seemingly very 

710
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,320
happy about them, so they must 
be good. 

711
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040
Anyways, Joe, let's get John 
real quick and I'll go to Kevin.

712
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Joe, what up, man? 
How you doing? 

713
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Good morning. 
Broke. 

714
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,480
I'm not doing great man, but it 
is great to see you guys. 

715
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,320
Why are you not doing great? 
My team had a crazy idea and I 

716
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,960
was like, all right, let's go 
with your crazy idea. 

717
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,600
We, we had just a little 
background story. 

718
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,160
So in case you guys don't know 
infinite objects, we've been in 

719
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,440
the space for oh man, since 
2020. 

720
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,760
Since 20. 
Yeah, we love you on FIFA. 

721
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,280
I have three of them right 
there. 

722
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,320
Yeah, no, we've done so much 
with the rug radio. 

723
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,960
We love you guys and you guys 
are actually a part of this drop

724
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,640
that I'm gonna talk about in a 
second here. 

725
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,320
But but yeah, we we, you know, 
very straight up we need to 

726
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,040
raise a little capital to do our
next production run, right. 

727
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,800
We do. 
We're physical company, physical

728
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,760
goods. 
And and so we're like, let's do 

729
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,320
a drop, but for this drop, let's
do something special where we're

730
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,320
giving back to the community, 
right, to our customers, to our,

731
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,480
to our, you know, supporters, 
the artists and partners that we

732
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,240
work with. 
And so let's do a giveaway, 

733
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,360
let's do a raffle the spaces, 
you know, picking back up last 

734
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,400
few months, people are excited 
about art again. 

735
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,080
And, and so we're like, all 
right, what should we raffle 

736
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,840
off? 
And my team was like, obviously 

737
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,680
we should raffle off a punk. 
Oh shit. 

738
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,600
And I was like, all right, we're
going to do this right. 

739
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,040
And so it's a four day mint. 
Every mint of a they're called 

740
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,480
moments. 
We'll talk about the moments in 

741
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,240
a second, but every mint's an 
entry into the raffle. 

742
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,560
And on Monday the raffle will 
end and we will raffle off a 

743
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,720
punk we're doing on chain 
verified, you know, random 

744
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,840
selection, all super legit in 
terms of the tech and the 

745
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,520
backside on the on the drop. 
But but yeah, only about what? 

746
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,760
I don't know, man 250 mints so 
far. 

747
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,040
We launched yesterday. 
It's only it's been less than 24

748
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,040
hours. 
OK. 

749
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,960
People are waiting until the 
last day to see how much they 

750
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,240
should drop in, but right now 
you've got a one in two chance 

751
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,080
of winning any prize and right 
now a one in 200 chance of 

752
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,320
winning a punk for a 0.02 ETH 
mint. 

753
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,360
So it's I'm, I'm like, I'm 
freaking out. 

754
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,640
I'm not lying. 
I'm freaking out over here. 

755
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,280
But it is it's an exciting 
moment. 

756
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,600
It's going to be an exciting 
weekend to see what goes down. 

757
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,640
I feel like, you know, there's, 
there's a lot of things. 

758
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,800
We've got a lot of different 
prizes on chain and off chain 

759
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
prizes and, and so yeah, we're, 
we're. 

760
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,280
OK. 
You have three days. 

761
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Yeah, you have three days. 
OK. 

762
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,720
And this is all happening on 
shape. 

763
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Shape so the drop you can 
there's a link in our bio. 

764
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,200
I think that on if you're on 
spaces, you'll see our our our 

765
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,000
like yeah that that's exactly it
When you meant it is a shape NFT

766
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,840
OK, love shape. 
That's the other great piece of 

767
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,480
alpha here. 
Shape announced that metals. 

768
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,880
I don't know if you're familiar 
with the shape metals system, 

769
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,080
you can win like I think of you 
can claim up to 50 metals with 

770
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,160
the infinite objects drop 
turning into shape token. 

771
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,160
They already announced shape 
token. 

772
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,360
There's a link to shape token 
and if you Scroll down a little 

773
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,840
bit, but that's going to launch 
into the metals will turn into 

774
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,240
that. 
You might even get, you know, 

775
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:51,720
let's say you spend an ETH, you 
might get that ETH back in shape

776
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,800
tokens real soon. 
I see. 

777
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,360
Yeah, 'cause they they announced
it to G, right? 

778
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:01,160
Exactly they announced so the TP
is coming up but so yeah you're 

779
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,760
going to get shape tokens. 
You could win a punk. 

780
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,960
We've got a like over 100 other 
physical yeah so the moments 

781
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,160
let's talk about that for a 
second I'm glad you you clicked 

782
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,880
on that We the for the drop. 
We didn't just want to do 

783
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,920
tickets right, we wanted these 
to be a little unique. 

784
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440
And so we're celebrating the 
last six years of being a 

785
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,240
company, highlighting a lot of 
the different collaborations, 

786
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,320
drops, artist releases that 
we've done and then. 

787
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080
A lot of social media stuff, 
right so the Kim Kardashian post

788
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,560
we loved that was like 2 years 
ago. 

789
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,000
She received an infinite object 
through Giffy. 

790
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,960
Giffy is one of our part. 
And so there's a lot of cute 

791
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,800
unboxings. 
There's like a Magic Johnson 

792
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,800
moment. 
There's. 

793
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,160
No way. 
Moment, yeah. 

794
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,200
A lot of really cute ones in 
there. 

795
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,960
And yeah, it's it's, it's, I 
mean, it's really beautiful what

796
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,960
our team has done. 
We've been working two months on

797
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640
this on this thing finally goes 
live yesterday. 

798
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960
But we're giving away a punk, 
and I think that's that's an 

799
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,480
intense thing. 
What we do want to do for the 

800
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,280
FOMO hour community though? 
We've got an allow list. 

801
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,080
OK, for. 
The FOMO hour meeting for the 

802
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
next, I think we're going to 
leave it open for 30 minutes. 

803
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,800
If you go to our account at 
infinite objects on X, throw a 

804
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,760
retweet. 
We're going to give away 10 

805
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
allow list spots with a a 
comment. 

806
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,120
So do a retweet and a comment. 
Comment your ETH address and 

807
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,360
we're going to give away 10 
allow the spots to the FOMO hour

808
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,760
folks OK right now, so that you 
could get a free punk literally 

809
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,520
you could get a free punk right 
now, which is just fucking 

810
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,760
insane, but here we are here we.
Two ways two ways to win a punk 

811
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,120
today on the show through these 
guys and through our our our 

812
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,680
giveaway at the. 
End That's right, you guys right

813
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,120
and didn't you give away? 
A punk like yeah, we did two 

814
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,920
weeks ago. 
Right. 

815
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Yeah, I saw that. 
So yeah. 

816
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,600
Well, I mean, thankfully for us,
real bit pays for it, so it's 

817
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,200
not like it comes out of 
Rugrido's pocket. 

818
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
But for you, I mean, you know, I
know you. 

819
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,520
I know you trip it a little bit,
you know, so, so you, you're so 

820
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,840
funny. 
How do we get robit in on this? 

821
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,880
Can I Can I get? 
Robit's phone number please. 

822
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Please. 
Have you heard of Yeet? 

823
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,480
You know, I don't know Mando, 
but but yeah, I listen. 

824
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,440
That's dude, that's hilarious. 
I love you. 

825
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,200
Come in here like freaking out. 
So just remind the people one 

826
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,360
second so they have to comment 
on where. 

827
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,800
Yeah, on our X go, go to the 
infinite object. 

828
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,880
We got a pin tweet that's in the
announcement tweet. 

829
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
It's pinned on the infinite 
objects X account. 

830
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
And then comment your ETH 
address and retweet that post. 

831
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,280
And then we'll give away and 
allow us when you comment, 

832
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,280
comment with your ETH address 
and we'll just use that and 

833
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,560
right there, right there. 
Exactly. 

834
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,960
OK, perfect. 
I like these moments. 

835
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,640
I mean, Tyler, you've been 
talking about Top Shop moments a

836
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,360
lot lately because they're 
making like this resurgence 

837
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,040
lately. 
So I kind of like that you guys 

838
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,560
are doing these like. 
I love them. 

839
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,360
I'm. 
Still playing trains? 

840
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,240
Hell yeah, sure, why not. 
What's the show I'm? 

841
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Going to enter this for sure. 
I'm going to just go mint some. 

842
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,120
I mean, especially if I can win 
a punk on top of. 

843
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Them I think people need to know
about this. 

844
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,640
This is a fun one. 
This is, that's why we just let 

845
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,840
people know. 
This is why. 

846
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,720
This is why when Joe hit me up, 
he was like, yo, can I come on 

847
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,440
the show and talk about it? 
He's like, fuck yeah, why not? 

848
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Like, you know, we got a guest 
coming on today. 

849
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,400
But you know, quickly just 
squeeze Joe in in between 

850
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,480
everything because I'm a big fan
of Infinite Object. 

851
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,840
They're really good friends of 
ours. 

852
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Every single event we do, I'm 
like Joe, I go, well, I don't 

853
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,960
have goes, Joe. 
I need like 12 fucking screens. 

854
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,800
I'm sorry, I need 20 screens 
next week in Miami. 

855
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,920
Can you make it happen? 
He's like, let's go, I got you 

856
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,400
and you're the best. 
I got my people, I got my rugby 

857
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,640
award. 
I got a bunch of infinite jobs. 

858
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,120
It's just not plugged in. 
But love infinite objects. 

859
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,360
Love it, love it, love it. 
Well, you should talk about a 

860
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,760
Lisbon office. 
Yeah, thank you for for letting 

861
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,480
me come on for a couple minutes 
here. 

862
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,560
And we got you, yeah. 
Let's let's, let's see who gets 

863
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,120
this punk. 
Hopefully we don't lose too much

864
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,480
fucking money. 
Infiniteobjects.com, it's on 

865
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,000
their main page. 
Go out there, mint something if 

866
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,800
you'd like, of course, and, and 
support infinology, the good 

867
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,080
people, good founders, good 
builders and big, you know, 

868
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,800
supporter of the arts. 
So it's important to support 

869
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,160
Joe. 
Thank you so much for coming, 

870
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,160
brother. 
Thank you guys. 

871
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Have a good one. 
All right, now on to today's 

872
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:11,480
song partner, My boy. 
Hey gem Gem 4 Tana Mendu, how 

873
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,040
you? 
Doing how you doing? 

874
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,960
I saw you last in Hong Kong, a 
moderate panel you were on. 

875
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,840
How's that? 
Yeah, by the way, you did a good

876
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,480
job. 
Like moderating Like what? 

877
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,240
Like 15 different panels 
back-to-back. 

878
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Brother, I went out the night 
before, you know, Hong Kong, OK,

879
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,680
Yeah. 
So I went out. 

880
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:31,600
I went out big like I had AI had
I had a banger of a night. 

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,320
I think Tyler man don't know 
because I was like texting the 

882
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,680
Femara Chad like I loved you 
guys like it was one of those 

883
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,200
nights. 
The day after I had to moderate 

884
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,480
5 panels and one of them was 
gate on top of that. 

885
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,760
Oh yeah. 
You, you did great. 

886
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,080
You did great. 
But by the way, I I like Joe and

887
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,880
but like he made me look bad 
now, like I know I keep, I keep 

888
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,520
empty handed. 
Like if the if the marketing 

889
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,160
team are actually listening to 
this now, like we have to throw 

890
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,240
away something next time. 
Yeah, we've got to do something.

891
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,960
Oh, am I doing this? 
Am I doing? 

892
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,880
Oh, is Gabe giving away a book? 
Is Gabe giving away a book? 

893
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,400
Dude, yeah, do something 
marketing team no, but like 

894
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,080
happy, like happy to see you in 
in Hong Kong. 

895
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,960
It was great consensus. 
We we're planning ahead for 

896
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,480
Dubai token already obviously. 
So yeah, we'll see you guys 

897
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
going to be there. 
We are going to be there in a 

898
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,840
really big way. 
We're actually throwing a bang 

899
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,840
over an event. 
I can probably. 

900
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Be sent it to your team already 
but I'll make sure they think 

901
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,240
again. 
Dude your VIP don't ever be I. 

902
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Just have to just point in the 
nose, right? 

903
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,960
You're always, you're always a 
VIP, you know that. 

904
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,080
We love gay. 
You guys are honestly having a 

905
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,560
year, man. 
I saw you guys took over the 

906
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,680
sponsorship of the Red Bull 
Racing team as well. 

907
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,880
Yes, yes, yeah, it's good. 
Well, it's well if you guys 

908
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600
follow Formula Ones pretty 
closely, I suppose, right. 

909
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,400
And it's, it's a lot of promise 
already. 

910
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,640
It's just after two races. 
They, they, they, they, but 

911
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,880
dope, you guys are getting the 
best advertisement because you 

912
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,720
just took over this team, right?
And they just picked out Lawson 

913
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,240
to put Yuki Sonora to raise the 
next race. 

914
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,040
But it's in Japan. 
It's and in Japan. 

915
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,280
Yep, he's huge. 
Yeah, dude, it's. 

916
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,320
I have to tell you, we like all 
the tickets are giving out to 

917
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,680
like guesses and I didn't even 
have a ticket. 

918
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:17,960
Where's my ticket? 
I was like, where? 

919
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,440
It was my ticket. 
Yeah, I didn't even like, I'll 

920
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,360
tell you whatever, like not the 
Japan store, but like any other 

921
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,840
store. 
OK, fine, I'm going to take you 

922
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,480
up on that. 
No KO tickets. 

923
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,280
Come on man, I'm just kidding. 
Mendo you you guys in. 

924
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Dude, Mendo Mendo's almost 
Mendo's about to buy a team 

925
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,400
soon. 
You know, we're going to get the

926
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Canary jet, the Canary team, the
Canary. 

927
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,560
You know, it's it's it's going 
to be nice. 

928
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,880
But yeah, we would love to 
attend the right now. 

929
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,480
I'm not sure the FOMO. 
What about Here We Are FOMO hour

930
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,400
with Tyler Mandaway live live 
from the F1? 

931
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,680
Yeah, now we're talking. 
We could do one of those in 

932
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,400
Europe or something, you know, 
that could be nice. 

933
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,840
Yeah. 
OK, I'll hit you up after this. 

934
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Anyways, we didn't come and talk
about this, but hey, it is a big

935
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,480
deal. 
So I did want to congratulate 

936
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,600
you on the on the F1 thing 
because Red Bull Racing is 

937
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,000
definitely no joke here. 
And I know you guys are the the 

938
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,560
main sponsor for them now, but 
any joke? 

939
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:14,360
We are not. 
Yeah, we're like we're second 

940
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,640
one up there. 
We're not winning that one this 

941
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,120
year. 
Oh, man, you're funny, dude. 

942
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,080
I, I, I, it's always fun to have
you out. 

943
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,520
ANYWAYS, Kevin, you know, we, it
looks like we finally had a, a 

944
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,240
somewhat of a boring month in in
for the first time in, in years.

945
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,200
Or maybe not, but let's just 
call this period of chop. 

946
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,640
So this period of chop, you 
know, probably means that 

947
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640
crypto's growing up, all that 
good stuff. 

948
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,760
What do you guys think over a 
gate? 

949
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,720
Is this like the what do you 
guys think? 

950
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,920
Because you guys see stats like 
I talked to Keith over at moon 

951
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,400
pay a lot. 
He's like behind the scenes. 

952
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,200
It's it's moving. 
So you guys at skate, you've 

953
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,880
become one of the top exchanges.
What do you think? 

954
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,720
Like, are we going to get out of
this? 

955
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,400
Like how? 
What's the momentum happening? 

956
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Bad things? 
Well. 

957
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480
I mean, like, well, you tell me 
as well, right, So like after 

958
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,240
consensus, which is like which 
was big for us, we want unwind a

959
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,240
little bit follow-ups messages 
to to everyone. 

960
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,960
And then this month is like a 
lot of like nothing. 

961
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,000
So obviously like every day you 
guys got like good things and 

962
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,480
bad things to talk about, right,
But like if we zoom out a little

963
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,480
bit like what's else other than 
like another minimum con that's 

964
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,240
is it another meme constant 
still going to make you excited?

965
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Maybe, maybe not AI, just like 
I've done like like tons of 

966
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,240
panels and space on AI already. 
I just like feeling like a 

967
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:32,080
little bit boring like they did 
did Gilliby things. 

968
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,720
Yeah, Ghibli things like Oh 
yeah, it's great. 

969
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:39,160
It's it's great publicity. 
But like that technology has 

970
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,320
been around for like whatever 
year and a half already, right. 

971
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,640
If you know how to use stable 
diffusions. 

972
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,680
So where we now, right where 
where we now, I mean, like we're

973
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,200
still growing. 
The market seems to be like a 

974
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000
little bit slower, less cons are
being listed. 

975
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,040
Yeah, sorry. 
Yeah. 

976
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,760
So I I would say it's, it's a 
good time to focus on like a 

977
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,240
little bit of like boring things
like cybersecurities. 

978
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:08,440
No one talk about it. 
That's until it's become a 

979
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,240
problem. 
Then we're like, wait, what 

980
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,800
about ours? 
Like should we like have a like 

981
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,440
an annual check on our 
cybersecurity? 

982
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,680
Should we upgrade it? 
User growth? 

983
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,240
No one talk about user growth 
anymore. 

984
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,160
We just passed like 22 million 
users on on the platform. 

985
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,800
Yeah, 20. 2. 
Yeah, it's good, right? 

986
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,360
No one talk about it anymore. 
It's like it's boring. 

987
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,640
It's like another number, right.
So but I guess it's just like 

988
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,480
it's a lot of behind the scenes 
while like on Twitter everyone's

989
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,240
still like, oh like yeah, Ghibli
or like another meme corn, 

990
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,320
etcetera. 
So a lot of things going behind 

991
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:47,120
the scenes that not as sexy, but
I think it's a good period of 

992
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,400
time to get it done now. 
This is impressive 22 million 

993
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,800
that's good. 
Damn, I can't wait till we have 

994
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,800
22 million users, then I'll be 
I'll have my own F1 team then. 

995
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,600
Let me tell you that damn 22 
million users over a gate. 

996
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,320
You guys are probably seeing 
record volumes right? 

997
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Or or not yet. 
Volume has been, yeah, really 

998
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,520
good. 
Like spot volumes been like good

999
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,600
like especially in the again, 
thankfully with the markets like

1000
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,840
a Memecon space. 
If you look at the overall like 

1001
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,600
volume, of course you're talking
about like finance is like the 

1002
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,800
best and then you got like the 
other guys. 

1003
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,560
But like if you're looking at 
like all the new cons and meme 

1004
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,760
cons, like like we, we almost 
always the top if not like top 

1005
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,520
three or top right. 
So it's good. 

1006
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Because because the users like 
it, it's like the liquidity, not

1007
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,600
with big cons, which like you 
can get liquidity anywhere, but 

1008
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,920
like, what about like all this 
like little cons that just 

1009
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,400
created. 
So it's good. 

1010
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,920
Yeah, Overall, we were really 
happy. 

1011
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,400
We're not complaining about like
the cycles being a little bit 

1012
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,800
boring right now. 
I would just like volume is 

1013
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,600
still coming through. 
I love that, I love that. 

1014
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,600
So besides that, I mean, you 
know, it's seems like, you know,

1015
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,920
we've we get through these 
phases of chop in the space, but

1016
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,000
they're never like they never 
last too, too long, right? 

1017
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,520
A few months and then and then, 
you know, you're you're back up.

1018
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,920
We were talking beginning of the
show. 

1019
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,720
I was telling the boys that I 
genuinely expected us to have a 

1020
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:21,200
move up after this last few 
weeks and and I was surprised 

1021
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,840
this morning, but maybe things 
will bounce here hopefully. 

1022
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,920
Do you think we should be 
bracing for a big move or is 

1023
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,120
this our new reality? 
It's just like chopped forever 

1024
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,800
Bitcoin market and all. 
It's just down only. 

1025
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Well, yeah, with, with your 
precedence and anything could 

1026
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,320
happen, right. 
But like we like I've been in 

1027
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,720
crypto for five years. 
It's I don't know, you guys may 

1028
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,560
be longer, but like I, I would, 
I would generally say like I 

1029
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,160
never actually have a boring 
month, right. 

1030
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
I mean, we have like bear 
markets and we have like every 

1031
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,720
month with that, there's a 
platforms going down, which is 

1032
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,440
anything but boring, right? 
It's it's painful, but not 

1033
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,920
boring. 
But this month onward, it's just

1034
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,240
like where we going, where we 
going, We're not going anywhere,

1035
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,360
right? 
I mean, even if we're going down

1036
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,000
with like a little bit of like 
volatility, that's not great, 

1037
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,480
but like at least something that
we can work on, you know, just 

1038
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,960
shut the market or do something.
I'm not doing anything in the 

1039
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,800
last two weeks. 
I'm not buying selling, I'm 

1040
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,960
holding. 
I guess that's my fault, right? 

1041
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,960
It's like it that that meme like
when you're holding the markets,

1042
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,840
not moving when you're selling, 
like the markets just move up. 

1043
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,600
I guess maybe maybe just like 
waiting for something to 

1044
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,800
happened. 
What what's happening in in your

1045
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,280
side of the world? 
Do you do you feel like you know

1046
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,960
anything? 
That's what would change the 

1047
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,360
policy side. 
I mean, we're bullish, man. 

1048
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,440
I mean. 
Just we're happy, right? 

1049
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Yeah, Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, on the myriad 

1050
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,200
side, things are good. 
And you know, Mandel's business 

1051
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,760
is doing good. 
Tyler's still trading meme 

1052
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,040
coins, so that's usually a good 
signal. 

1053
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,760
I mean, Tyler, how are things 
are in your end, you know? 

1054
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,200
The theme here is that there's 
just a disconnect between like 

1055
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,760
the institutional players who 
are just starting to come in and

1056
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,920
retail trainers who seem tired 
and have lost some hope. 

1057
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,600
And the big open question right 
now is what's going to bring 

1058
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,240
like the retail trader back in? 
And I don't know that we have 

1059
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:16,720
that catalyst just yet. 
So it's it's like it's the most 

1060
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,280
divided I've seen between like 
those two groups, especially 

1061
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,680
when you just see how how bolts 
all the builders are, all the 

1062
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640
suits are who are, who are 
piling into the space on a daily

1063
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,040
basis. 
Yet folks who have been here for

1064
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,480
for years are now starting to 
get bored or, or, or walk away. 

1065
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,240
So I'm interested to see how 
this is going to resolve. 

1066
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,720
Yeah, 100% that's, that's our 
our struggle as well. 

1067
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,160
Like our users come to us to buy
meme coins and the cycle is 

1068
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,680
like, OK, you, you got like one 
eggs and then you got 28 and 

1069
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,800
then you lost like 50%. 
That's fine. 

1070
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,480
But like the circle is like 
there's a cycle is like, so it's

1071
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,760
daily cycle, right. 
So the current like exit 

1072
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,640
liquidity is like Bitcoin, 
right? 

1073
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,320
Everyone just like, OK, if I 
make money, I move to Bitcoin 

1074
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,920
and Bitcoin is actually not 
moving. 

1075
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,880
So like we need to find like 
actual long term projects to be 

1076
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,360
on our platforms, quality 
projects that will work for like

1077
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:14,440
a year to year from now. 
But I don't, I don't see 

1078
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,400
anyone's like actually talking 
it because again, this is like 

1079
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,360
the boring kind of thing. 
So like no one, like none of you

1080
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,560
are actually like smiling or 
laughing at this one. 

1081
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,680
This is like, this is like 
serious shit. 

1082
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:26,840
Yeah, yeah. 
No one's talking about this 

1083
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,200
because it's too serious. 
It's not like Gabele or like 

1084
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,960
it's another meme that's that's 
make you, you know, feel the 

1085
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,000
market. 
So, but yeah, that's, that's, 

1086
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,480
that's a struggle, definitely. 
Yeah, some. 

1087
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,160
Hope with like Kaido had a nice 
open over a billion FTV like 

1088
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,200
Walrus yesterday. 
Even BMT like the bubble maps 

1089
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,920
thing once like 300 mail or some
shit. 

1090
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,840
So there's some signs of hope. 
At least there's some new 

1091
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,320
protocols, yeah. 
There is there's definitely some

1092
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,480
signs of hope. 
Let me ask you something, you 

1093
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,960
know, last question for you, 
Kevin, but you know, if things 

1094
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,600
stay this way, right, do you 
think it's going to help or is 

1095
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,360
it going to hurt innovation? 
And then also, do you think that

1096
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,400
we're in an industry that just 
needs chaos to thrive, or is 

1097
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,600
this stability just better for 
like builders in general? 

1098
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:18,000
Yeah, I mean the weed weed we 
all like we all been saying like

1099
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,920
a year and crypto is like dot 
year, right feel like like 7 

1100
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,480
years already 5-7 years. 
So like can you how many years 

1101
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,800
of like this chaos that you can 
live with right? 

1102
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,120
I mean, like we, we probably 
look already older than like a 

1103
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,120
month ago when we when we met 
each other. 

1104
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,280
But yeah, well, I think 
generally speaking, it would 

1105
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,880
have to mature in in some way to
form. 

1106
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,120
But the the other way it is, I 
mean, crypto is still so early. 

1107
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,480
Like I I couldn't believe like 
some of the things just 

1108
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,800
happened, like whatever Cornell 
just like remains some like 

1109
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,520
burned corns. 
That's like unheard of, right. 

1110
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:00,600
So it's it's still chaos around 
that's big enough to to make us 

1111
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,040
excited. 
But yeah, day-to-day that we 

1112
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:10,400
just want to build things one 
grind after another and and just

1113
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,520
like see what happens in, in, in
a year or two years time. 

1114
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,960
Damn right. 
Damn right. 

1115
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,640
I love that, Kevin. 
I'm excited for the future, 

1116
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,760
that's for sure. 
I like that you're you're 

1117
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,200
seemingly bullish. 
That's good. 

1118
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,720
Yeah, I'm still bullish, but 
like if, if, if the market's so 

1119
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:31,440
mature and then just like no 
one's like making a stupid 

1120
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,440
decision or get hacked or, you 
know, minting like burn coins, 

1121
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,280
then we have nothing to talk 
about, right? 

1122
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Like you guys going to run off 
like you lose your job. 

1123
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Like no, nothing to talk about 
it everyday. 

1124
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:47,240
So that's not, that's not the 
way it should be in the next two

1125
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:51,120
years as well. 
So I'm still hopeful that we'll 

1126
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,440
have fun times, down times, but 
never boring. 

1127
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,040
I love that I love it. 
Fun times, but never boring. 

1128
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,360
That's kind of the name of the 
game here in this space. 

1129
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,760
So Kevin, dude, thank you so 
much for coming today. 

1130
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Appreciate you guys. 
Oh, what happened there? 

1131
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,440
Thank you so much for coming 
today. 

1132
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,920
I appreciate you for for being 
one of our show partners and I 

1133
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,080
can't wait to see you at Token 
2049. 

1134
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Token. 
Yeah. 

1135
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,040
And then work out something on 
Formula One. 

1136
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,120
Yeah, Put it on record. 
Yeah, we should. 

1137
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,040
He said put it on the record. 
Oh no. 

1138
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,040
I hope this thing's on record, 
yeah. 

1139
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,160
I know it is on the record. 
Trust me, we got to. 

1140
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,680
We'll give you the yeah, yeah. 
We could put in the YouTube 

1141
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,040
shorts. 
We'll, we'll, we'll put we 

1142
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,280
should the interns listening, we
should post this entire 

1143
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,280
conversation with Kevin because 
that's some good insight. 

1144
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,200
And I think it's important for 
people to hear not just from us,

1145
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,800
but you work at one of the major
exchanges. 

1146
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,920
So it's important to hear that, 
but also the fact that we're 

1147
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,160
going to host the FOMO hour at 
the F1 this year, right? 

1148
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,440
Yeah, let's go. 
OK. 

1149
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,640
Thank you, Kevin. 
Appreciate you. 

1150
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,240
All right, have a good one. 
All right, have a good one.

