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All right, good morning. 
Good morning, GMGM folks. 

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It is another beautiful day to 
have a beautiful day. 

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Welcome to another episode of 
FOMO Hour today, one more hour, 

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episode 168. 
Today is Tuesday, July 30th, 20.

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It is a hot, sunny morning here 
in Chicago today, folks. 

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Crypto was feeling hot yesterday
morning into our our show and 

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then things went South of it and
not quite as hot here today. 

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Etho may be feeling kind of hot,
at least compared to the rest. 

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I'm sure we'll get into that 
here in a bit, folks. 

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No faroke today. 
He is traveling back from a 

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funeral. 
But we've got Mando on deck to 

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help us cope with these spooked 
markets. 

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It seems like the US has spooked
everyone. 

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Mando, Jim, how you doing? 
Doing great man, doing great. 

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Another day in London. 
It's actually been surprisingly 

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nice weather since I've been 
back for once. 

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Nice. 
Do you still have another few 

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days, weeks left in your trip 
over there? 

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I'm here until next, until 
Sunday and then I'm going 

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straight back to to Portugal for
a long time. 

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I think I'm done travelling for 
a while. 

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Yeah, I can understand that. 
Well, enjoy your your last week 

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over there. 
Things feel a little slower here

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to to kick off the week. 
It does feel like the time to 

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kind of enjoy the last few weeks
of summer, but still a good 

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amount to cover. 
So we'll break it all down on 

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today's show. 
We're gonna start with the 

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market report. 
We're gonna talk to the US 

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government spooking the market 
by moving some Bitcoin, Seoul 

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flipping ETH majorly and some 
key metrics. 

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The SEC dropping some securities
allegations here in the last 

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day. 
Blackrock's CIO making some 

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bullish, some bearish comments 
in an interview yesterday. 

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Crypto continuing to get more 
and more political. 

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A new Nero winner. 
It seems like the Nero meme coin

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winner has now been cemented. 
Perhaps a surprising outcome. 

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We've got this flog token going 
nuclear and NFT news doodles are

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pumping in big red guy news. 
Some a big new partnership. 

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So perhaps we'll chat about 
that. 

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I think without any any further 
ado, why don't we get into the 

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the Mando market report? 
Who is the? 

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Man macro. 
Daddy of the land. 

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Can you dig it now? 
We're just going to go back and 

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forth on market reports, aren't 
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It's like we're covering 90% of 
the market here just being you. 

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It feels as though the main 
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last 24 hours was just this 
movement of Bitcoin, which kind 

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of spooked the market. 
About 2 billion worth is related

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to the Silk Road claims or 
seizures, let's say. 

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And I think this was maybe pre 
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We we saw some, some news around
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potentially custody this. 
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that this isn't going to be 
sold, that this is just a 

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different custodian. 
That being said, it took the 

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whole market lower. 
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about 60 K and hasn't really 
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We've just cleared out a bunch 
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head below 180, which I think 
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And then you saw ETH slightly 
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I think the main things that 
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hours there is BIN. 
The greyscale outflows seemingly

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look like they've slowed down 
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I think it was a figure below 
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yesterday, which led to a bounce
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You did have some headlines for 
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lawsuit. 
We're probably going to drop 

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some of the securities claims of
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different securities there. 
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bullish, bullish around that. 
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reversal if we bring up the sole
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I think that it hit like a trip 
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and it just bounced from that 
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I don't know if you can do it on
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Maybe you have to do it on my 
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or on trade. 
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on trading view actually. 
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bring up this chart and you look
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chart, if you go up slightly, up
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Oh yeah, I see this is good 
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You see, like it basically 
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ceiling level that is hit a few 
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that level. 
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better over the last 24 hours. 
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expectation that Grace 
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being done already. 
They've already gotten rid of 

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like 25% of their holding. 
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move, move lower. 
So yeah, people are getting, you

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see it was around 200, two, 110 
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to 500 million and then 300 
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So that people took positively. 
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as that figure came out and 
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a reversal in the the the Solis 
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multi week highs and close to 
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So that that's been the main 
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I'm kind of surprised. 
I kind of felt like we it was a 

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decent flush yesterday when we 
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kind of bounce pretty 
aggressively just given how 

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positive the weekend was. 
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this Bitcoin does get sold, who 
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Like it still feels like it's 
people guessing that that that's

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what it's around. 
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know there. 
Solana being a blow 180. 

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I think people obviously got 
Super Bowls out when it was at 

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195 where it is. 
It's probably a good good that 

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it cleaned out some of these 
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I think the CME open interest or
actually global open interest on

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Bitcoin was the highest level 
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So when you have a setup like 
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probably need a flush before we 
even attempt to to go to all 

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time highs. 
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Big week. 
Sorry, maybe just to jump in 

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real quick, what was throwing me
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So I understand like the US 
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spooked some folks even though 
it's unclear if they're actually

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going to sell it. 
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yesterday. 
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So I guess maybe it's the the 
debt, the delta neutral trade in

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in action. 
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surprised me when I saw like the
net 125 million in inflow into 

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the ETS and we still, you know, 
fell 5%. 

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Yeah, I mean, it wasn't the 
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I feel as though short term 
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pay attention to daily inflows 
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It's more like over medium term.
I think we are set up to hit to 

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go close to that 71 to 72 K 
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I think we probably needed this 
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people to be a little bit 
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Again, you don't just hit all 
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I think you need a little bit of
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So I think this is a good setup.
It'll probably happen suddenly 

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when people aren't expecting it.
It has been a big week or is 

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going to be a big week for 
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This week we have three 
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deciding on policy, BOJ, Bank of
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And then you have you have non 
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of tech earnings. 
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Like definitely a big week for 
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make all, you know, make huge, 
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absolutely tank or we're going 
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them. 
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volatility this week on the back
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we're probably we're probably 
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Yeah, it's going to be roller 
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We've got FOMC plus July rate 
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Powell's going to say tomorrow 
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Thursday after close. 
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interesting one to, to see how 
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You know, I think one of the, 
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me. 
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see if I can pull this up. 
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giving this interview to, to 
Bloomberg and they, they 

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mentioned a couple different 
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So one, they said they're 
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crypto ETFs into model 
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the end of this year, which I 
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signal that that yes, the, the 
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start selling this. 
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said no, but it's not going to 
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So they said basically they 
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in this year or, or, or even 
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So I thought that was an 
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I, I think they've said this 
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I think if some of the other ETF
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remember we have to put this 
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Solana is 3% of the market, 3.6%
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The if they just got the ETF's 
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seeing kind of mixed responses 
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into a 3% asset seems maybe a 
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I think they'll probably wait 
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No one's no one's like desperate
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Think maybe one of the more of 
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It's probably why they didn't 
follow. 

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Who was it FANAC or 21 shares 
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You Vanek maybe broke it, yeah. 
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and they maybe because backwards
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You know, it's like we don't 
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market right now. 
We're just focusing on on Ethan 

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like the incentives just aren't 
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obviously the regulatory clarity

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improving, but it's definitely 
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It's not like, oh, this is 
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The SEC has definitely not come 
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So I think, you know, we're 
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I do think Solana ETF probably 
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if Trump gets in potentially I 
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changed their tune. 
So interestingly, there was some

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talk about the fact that one of 
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pretty anti crypto potentially. 
So I don't, I don't know. 

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I don't really know what the, 
the policy of the Democrats will

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be going forward. 
It does feel like Kamala wants 

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to court them a little bit more,
but I will it be enough to get a

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salon ETF and kind of widespread
crypto regulation may be a bit 

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too far. 
Yeah, I, I, I saw that, that 

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there was some Dems who really 
want Kamala to go to a crypto 

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conference and they're actually 
looking at the, the upcoming 

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blockwork 1 blockworks one as 
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So that'll be interesting. 
Of course, like if the US sells 

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any of this Bitcoin, I think 
it's going to be hard to, it's 

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going to be a blow to the, the 
Democrat crypto 'cause I think 

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that much is just pretty obvious
at this point. 

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I think we saw the backlash on 
the timeline yesterday just just

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from them moving it and just 
how, you know, hyper partisan 

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and political that this is all 
the calm, you know, without 

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diving, you know, into that. 
I don't think we need to. 

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Another piece of news from 
yesterday that jumped out to me 

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was the the Solana fee action. 
So it's a bread guy reported on 

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this. 
Let me see if I can pull up his 

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tweet here one second, but 
basically he's calling it the 

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Triple Crown that Solana locked 
in that the Triple Crown for 24 

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hour fees flipped E. 
So they won it on by on the 

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chain level. 
They won it on the decks level 

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and then also like a distinctive
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So Solana flipped Ethan fees. 
We saw Gito flipped Lido and 

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then Radium flipped Uniswap. 
And then this also came on the 

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same day that pumped up font LED
all protocols in revenue that 

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they brought in 816,000 on the 
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I was taking a look at their 
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And if you look at the, the 
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mean, they're basically 
averaging $1,000,000 in revenue 

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per day. 
They're annualized at 315 

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million in revenue on a yearly 
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them, I mean, they're, they're a
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point, right? 
Like just putting any type of 

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valuation math multiple on top 
of that. 

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So are are they the, are they 
they the clear winner in any 

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reaction to you? 
And we, we talked about this and

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you, you've said, man, now that,
that Solana is does seem 

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undervalued compared to ETA, you
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But we just, it just keeps 
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in our face on, on a daily basis
right now. 

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Yeah. 
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against that were that the total
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L twos of Solana of ETH were 
still comfortably above Solana 

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and that you were starting to 
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higher. 
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is Solana flip ETH on the L1 and
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And I think that's something to 
really start paying attention to

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now. 
I think the main, the main thing

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to note here, like objectively 
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tokenomics and inflation are 
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It's, it's less like gold than 
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gold than ETH. 
You know, like the ETH is 

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inflationary at around 1 to 2% 
at the moment. 

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Solana is inflationary, I think 
close to 6 to 7%. 

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Now that's going to come down 
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quite a lot of inflation at 
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So it's something to be aware 
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And also we obviously just went 
through FDX selling all these 

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claims to BCS. 
There will be some supply that 

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comes on the back of that too. 
Like the fully diluted market 

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cap of of Solana is about 20 to 
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market cap. 
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diluted at this stage, even 
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regularly dumps. 
But it's, those are the two 

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things I think to to be aware 
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I think Solana dominance, which 
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5 to 6%. 
I'm not saying it can go to 10 

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or, or flip ether cycle, but I 
think pretty comfortably could 

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go higher. 
I think, I don't know what Ether

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dominance is right now, probably
probably around 16%. 

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But could I see a world where 
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say from 5:00 to 6:00 and ETH 
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14, something like that? 
Yeah, I think that's pretty 

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comfortable. 
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I'm like overly bearish. 
I'm talking about dominance 

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here. 
I just think that the fastest 

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horse right now is in. 
I still think ETH can go a lot 

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can go higher. 
I think it has a good narrative 

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around the ETF and also some of 
the institutional adoption. 

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But yeah, my, my, my view is 
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horses cycle, but it's not, I 
don't think it's ready to flip 

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the heath, let's put it that 
way. 

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Yeah, I think that's a fair take
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It may need to get to 5% 
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ETF approval pushed through or 
to, to get enough demand for 

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some of these players to to want
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And I mean, I think we're seeing
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ETF. 
It's not like huge by by any 

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means. 
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to see that play out a little 
bit as well before we really 

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just start rallying around the 
this this Seoul ETF narrative, 

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though perhaps a little bit more
likely. 

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We didn't the SEC news from 
yesterday, not huge that they're

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not dropping their case. 
They're not dropping the fact 

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that Seoul and ADA and MATIC are
securities, but they're they're 

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effectively tabling it. 
They're saying it does not need 

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to be ruled on as a part of 
their case against finance right

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now. 
So a little bit of a kick in the

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can down the the road. 
So not not a full celebration. 

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Still some positive news. 
I think the the other stories. 

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I think maybe if we want to get 
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little bit here. 
Mandel, if that works for you, 

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for sure, let's. 
Do it. 

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We found that the the winner in 
the the The Great Nero race and 

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it looks to have been a surprise
horse like I I would not have 

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had this on my bingo card, but 
it looks like it was the ETH doc

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pun intended. 
Who's going to be winning the 

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the the Nero race? 
It is now trying to get the the 

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charts shared for those in the 
in the YouTube. 

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It's at 66 million market cap. 
It's up 360% on the day. 

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Like arguably one of the the 
best looking meme charts out 

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there. 
Tough personal story. 

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Had a buddy share this, yeah, 
this one specifically with me at

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5 million on Sunday as just 
like, Nah, this Nero, this Nero 

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situation is way too messy. 
I'm just going to, you know, 

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stay away. 
And I got beaten up a little bit

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last week chasing some stuff and
it's up 13 X from there. 

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And if you want, if you take a 
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certainly the Solano ones are 
still catching a ton of action, 

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but the, the numbers look much 
worse. 

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So we, we've got one of them. 
We saw, I still saw over 100 

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million between the top two 
dogs, the top two Nero coins 

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yesterday. 
So one's at 45,000,001's at at 

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six million, you know, both down
about 30 and 50%. 

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So it seems like those two are, 
are going the wrong way, perhaps

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cannibalizing themselves a 
little bit while the, the ETH 

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one is looking to run. 
I was chatting with tabs a 

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little bit ahead of the show and
we're we're wondering is, is it 

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because like the the ETH meme 
landscape is just like it feels 

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so wide open right now, like 
you've got Pepe mog and after 

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that, like it's it's so light, 
like there's turbo up there, but

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you don't really hear a lot 
about that. 

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Pepe coin is kind of its own 
thing. 

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Trump, even despite, you know, 
all the pro crypto stuff that 

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that token is down only it's 
it's at 2:30. 

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You've got a mix of AI coins. 
We might have to start chatting 

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about this AI basket, which is 
starting to catch a little bit 

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of life, but but broadly there's
just nothing else top and 1/2. 

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Yeah, I think, I think it's a 
really good, really good point. 

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Me and Ivy were talking about it
even last week, just that 

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they're just ETH holders. 
They're also Austin, these have 

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much lower holders per per coin 
and they're often like later 

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stage. 
So like Morgan Pepe just feel 

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like far more developed in terms
of culture and there's less, 

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there's less temptation, I think
each day to just move into 

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another coin. 
I think that's a really, really 

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important thing. 
There's something to be said 

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about Solana is that to even be 
high-priced on on. 

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So like if you're a holder there
of a Solana meme coin who's got,

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you know, let's say a crazy bag,
let's say like over $1,000,000 

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of any of these coins. 
It is so tempting on a daily 

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basis when you're sitting there 
in front of a casino screen, 

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essentially not to just be like,
Hey, I'm going to go buy the new

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casino coin. 
You know, like it's just, it is 

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so unbelievably tempting. 
And I think that's, it's, it's 

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very, very tough to, I mean, I 
even know it with Epic, like 

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it's really tough to maintain 
attention in this space. 

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You kind of rest in the end of 
building a cult over a / a 

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medium to long time. 
And I think that's something 

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that hopefully I think we, we 
managed about Epic, but is also,

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you know, as a coin goes towards
100 million, that's just another

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coin each week that you feel 
that you should rotate into. 

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Even more so than like NFTS in 
their heyday, like the ease that

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you can just get out of your 
your huge bag and move into 

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something else. 
Just, it's just a continual 

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casino. 
Now that guy Murad has been 

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coming out and saying, you know,
own cults for a longer period, 

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have a longer term horizon. 
I think there's been a bit of a 

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push towards that. 
But then, you know, I still 

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think there's a massive, massive
community of people that are 

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just here every single day 
trying to move to the new point.

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So, yeah, we had all the, all 
the, the different Nero coins. 

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It doesn't surprise me that that
Eve maybe sees a better one. 

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I, I think no one really wins in
that Nero game. 

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My, my one's opinion is that 
they probably all don't do as 

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well. 
But there's something to be said

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there independently that that 
Solano memes are, are incredibly

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tough to to keep going. 
You've got I I think you do have

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to bet on Colts over a medium 
term. 

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A bit more here, but it's still 
still have hairy, hairy moves. 

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I think it's one of these. 
I would agree. 

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I think it's just hard to define
like cults and and still pick 

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the right ones. 
And like, can you form a cult on

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a weekly basis? 
And are are there enough 

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separate cohorts in this launch 
wrenches to actually form like 

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15 different cults? 
Because it feels like we're 

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getting to the levels. 
Like I mean Murad alone has got 

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like 7 or something cults on his
list and then if you add any 

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more to that, so now we're 
talking about 15 different 

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cults. 
It doesn't necessarily feel like

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we've got that many different 
groups. 

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Well, I think this SCF thing is 
kind of like try to speedrun it 

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with this kind of religious 
concept around it, right? 

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Like we've got like actually got
a church going. 

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But I think there's something to
be said about, you know, Giga 

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didn't move until Giga was I 
think it was formed in January. 

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I think like Punky similar was 
was old, like coins which are 

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older potentially and not just 
like this week's coin, but are 

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still lower priced, I think are 
the ones that he kind of moved 

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into. 
If you go down his list, a lot 

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of them were kind of five months
old rather than rather than like

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this month. 
So the idea that you're forming 

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a cult, I agree in a week, I 
think is quite tough. 

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How many coins really run to 100
million these days? 

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Something to something to note. 
Like you sometimes see it, but 

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the generally when they go above
100 million and then you that 

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doesn't really happen. 
The ones that go above 100 

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million are generally been older
memes that have suddenly caught 

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a bit. 
So even even on this SCF thing, 

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which I think has been a bit 
more unique than others like 

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this should be one of the few 
that's kind of space speed run 

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to 100 and like cat there 
normally it takes a long time. 

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Yeah, I mapped out all the memes
over 100 million on Solana just 

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like a week, week and a half 
ago. 

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I think there's like there's 
like 12 to 15. 

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So like it's it's a big deal to 
get to that threshold. 

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It's not easy to do it. 
SCF has basically gotten there. 

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I mean, it looks like they they 
basically wicked above it 

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already here in their first 
week, 1st 10 days. 

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I think that the concern is 
like, is it that it happened too

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fast? 
And then all the folks who are 

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looking at their screen now have
massive gains And clearly they 

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do because you know, you could 
have been buying this AT100X 

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lower just just a week ago. 
So it makes these it makes these

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fast runners harder to enter, at
least for me. 

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I think my other like somewhat 
concern is like every time we 

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see, you know, a new token like 
this, run it, it feels more and 

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more like it's dampening the 
other tokens. 

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So like if we looked back at the
next board, like everything else

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is red, like just about 
everything. 

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So like we, we're in the Nero 
aftermath where Nero sucked the 

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tone of liquidity and all the 
the previous leaders all fell 10

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to 15%. 
Now they're all down 5 to 10% 

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more and it's just like, it 
makes me wonder like are are we 

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on like the, the, the part of 
the cycle where the roller 

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coaster loops are are smaller 
and smaller all the way down. 

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I don't want to believe that, 
but some of this action is like 

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it's kind of pointed that way. 
I think it's a really good point

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and I think it's something to be
aware of. 

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Like Pun dot Fun making 
$1,000,000 of revenue, you know,

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that's like Open C making 
$1,000,000 of revenue. 

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You know, there'll be questions 
afterwards being like, wow, God,

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that sucks so much liquidity out
of the system. 

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You know, $1,000,000 of revenue 
a day. 

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That's I don't think they're 
pumping it back into meme coins.

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And I think the other thing is 
with someone like me, Nero, when

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you see these huge volume, huge 
volume memes that actually don't

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really do that much or like they
don't maintain a high value, 

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what you've really seen there is
like a bunch of people lose 

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money to MEV bots. 
So I think actually over the 

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last few days, we've seen a 
massive destruction of of like 

444
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value across MEV bots and also 
pumped off fun obviously, just 

445
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,680
like continually making its 
money. 

446
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,600
But Nero, I think it's been 
really, really bad for the 

447
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520
salon. 
I mean, coin space probably in 

448
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,640
general because there's a lot of
net losses there. 

449
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,200
A lot of these volume figures 
are massively in place at the 

450
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
moment because of yeah, there's 
so much MEV to be made. 

451
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,080
Yeah, it's the the the MEV 
winners, it's dev winners. 

452
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,200
They got the folks launching 
these coins and selling early 

453
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,360
pump fun and it's a lot. 
So now we, we need, you need the

454
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,520
leaders to, to really level up 
to, to create the wealth effect 

455
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,880
to support this again. 
And, and we'll, we'll see if 

456
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,000
that could happen. 
Well, yeah, I think obviously, 

457
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,240
you know, bitcoins still doing 
OK and you know, in terms of the

458
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,080
global crypto market cap, we're 
we're still doing OK. 

459
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,600
I still think that people, you 
know, people find money to spend

460
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,920
at casinos. 
There's like a hundreds of 

461
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,360
billions, if not over a trillion
dollars being spent at casinos 

462
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,080
each each year. 
I still think that people come 

463
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,560
in here to to gamble. 
So I'm not necessarily like 

464
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
super bearish on that money, 
like completely leaving. 

465
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,400
I think there will always be new
funds that come in and play 

466
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,440
these people that used to start 
on the weekend when the whole 

467
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,320
Nero thing broke. 
The people paying attention to 

468
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,920
this are not really even paying 
attention to Bitcoin. 

469
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,920
They're just coming in here to 
like spend some money and and 

470
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,840
roll the dice at the casino. 
So I think there will always be 

471
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,920
new funds that come in to 
actually play with these with 

472
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:45,520
these tools. 
Oh, I think you may be frozen, 

473
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:59,000
dude, 
just me. 

474
00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:17,410
Don't worry, we can keep going. 
Let's keep that. 

475
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,880
He's talking. 
I can hear him on my phone. 

476
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,000
So he's just he's just going on 
the space by himself. 

477
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,240
And I think I'm by my by myself 
on the YouTube. 

478
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000
So we're existing in two 
universes at the moment. 

479
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,680
Oh yeah. 
Oh. 

480
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,120
Yeah, sorry about that guys. 
I kept the the space going so 

481
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,440
hopefully folks in the space 
were were able to to hear me 

482
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,280
rambling about the flog token. 
UP23X Mando. 

483
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,160
Sorry I I missed your last 
comments there. 

484
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,120
No, don't worry. 
Yeah. 

485
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,560
I think we we kind of went 
through the the meme 

486
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,520
conversation. 
I, I briefly touched on flog on 

487
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,280
the space. 
It was just the other like wild 

488
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,600
runner on the day. 
I think what was lastly of note 

489
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,160
to me was just a couple of NMT 
topics before we round things 

490
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,160
out. 
So we had Julian Hogan on the 

491
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240
show yesterday. 
It is hard to listen to him and 

492
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040
not get fired up about what 
doodles are are building. 

493
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600
And we saw some nice action in 
the market yesterday. 

494
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,520
So those doodles NFTS up 15% one
of the top movers, but hey, 

495
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520
another top mover on the day 
close to home. 

496
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:28,640
Those rec guys up 30 on the day 
after we saw a strategic 

497
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,240
partnership with HLV known for 
their assistance with teams in, 

498
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,720
in launching fungible tokens. 
So we, there's probably not a 

499
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,080
whole lot we can we, we can say,
but some some big news 

500
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,320
yesterday. 
I'm not sure if there's any 

501
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,560
other any other context or info.
No, not really. 

502
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,440
I think it's you know, we, we 
obviously did the equity gifts 

503
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760
to everyone. 
So it sets us up correctly there

504
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,960
and obviously it's wrecked 
brands. 

505
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,200
So there's going to be a few 
different products starting with

506
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,920
a drink that we, we're going to 
launch and yeah, they'll, we'll 

507
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,800
see which other things can be 
used to help bond that 

508
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,240
interaction. 
Exciting times and it's going to

509
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,720
make tomorrow's roll bit spins a
bit more exciting as well. 

510
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,200
The stakes are are going to be 
raised. 

511
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Yeah, they're suddenly higher 
now. 

512
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,880
So we're going to be looking 
forward to that folks. 

513
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,200
We've we've got 2, two of the 
next three shows are going to be

514
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120
featuring Robot Spin. 
So we'll have those on tomorrow.

515
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,200
We'll have those on Friday as 
well. 

516
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Those are most of my topics. 
Just quickly in the prediction 

517
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040
market streets. 
I think the thing to watch Nate 

518
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Silver now the advisor for 
Polymarket, he is releasing his 

519
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:50,040
first post Kamala candidate 
election model later today. 

520
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,360
So I do think that when he 
releases that model, it will 

521
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,200
likely impact the primary 
election market. 

522
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,880
So that's going to be one to 
watch here later later today. 

523
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120
So so check that out. 
I just actually subscribed to 

524
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,880
his sub stack in the past week. 
I think he might get early 

525
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,520
access to those. 
So I think they. 

526
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,080
Integrated. 
They've integrated it with sub 

527
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,440
stack now. 
I saw that today. 

528
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800
Yeah, that's big news. 
So you can drop that the actual 

529
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,000
bets directly into the the 
newsletter. 

530
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,080
So curious if if he'll be he'll 
be doing that. 

531
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,240
Of of note, the Poly market 
primary election market is off. 

532
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Off is the wrong word. 
It is trading differently the 

533
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,880
other markets. 
So it was still at like Trump 

534
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,800
60% to comma 38% this morning. 
The predicted market's at like 

535
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,680
5450. 
I think another one is closer. 

536
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120
I think Tom was up over 40. 
So it's going to be interesting 

537
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,760
to see if that one does shift 
after this model. 

538
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,400
So, so perhaps we'll be chatting
about that on tomorrow's show. 

539
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,680
But anyway, I think we went 
around the horn and covered most

540
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480
of the items on my list. 
Was there anything else on your 

541
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,400
side here for this morning? 
No, I think we're in a good 

542
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,680
spot, dude. 
Yeah, awesome. 

543
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Well, thanks for joining us, 
folks who joined the shows and 

544
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,040
the streams. 
Thank you for joining us. 

545
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Have a fantastic Tuesday. 
We will see you all tomorrow. 

546
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Tabs take it away.
