1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:09,040 What up, what up Good morning, good morning GMG Friday. 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,840 Oh my I love Fridays. That's the show for sure. 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:25,320 NN 29th 2024444 Another beautiful day to have a 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,480 beautiful day. I got my Co host in the house OV 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Mando. Good morning boys. 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,960 How you guys doing? Good. 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,760 How are you guys doing? We're vibing, We're vibing. 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,000 It's Friday, it's Friday. How you doing Mando? 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Fantastic man, you're looking forward to next week. 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Dude, I'm excited, man. I'm excited. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,360 Are you, are you coming? I know Ovi got. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,520 It I got it at this stage. God damn it, Mando, come on. 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,360 We got, we got. You're the last missing pop up. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,640 You don't like the gemstones, Montanos. 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Everyone's coming. But you. 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,200 You can't. You're missing one. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,920 You're missing 1. You know, Come on, Novi. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,160 You got to apply some pressure on the boy. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,280 You got Cali coming, right? So you got 2/3 of Canary Labs 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,840 coming. You got a, you know, I guess. 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,920 You got to have Cali's. Yeah, Cali's coming. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,400 Cali's puts, his lights, everything. 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,120 Cali's definitely coming, all right? 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Cali's definitely coming. He's got he's made his plans him 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,120 in the ways are good, they're good. 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,160 They've got their plans sorted out anyways. 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,960 Need to. Take my place as as standard 28 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:35,840 British bloke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, he's a 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,600 little too much on the British side though, you know, and at 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,840 least you got a little Portuguese in you, so it kind of 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,640 like offsets the the the the the other side of it. 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,880 But anyways, anyways, yeah, excited for next week. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,600 Very excited. It's going to be busy, man Fuck. 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Actually, we're only hosting on Monday for those of you who are 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 listening to the show. Sorry y'all, it's too much work, 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,960 but it's going to be absolutely wild. 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,280 We got 8 events that we're throwing, but this time in three 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,840 days, not 4. So it's going to be it's going 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,360 to be a lot of work. In case you haven't yet go to 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,120 Rug Radio's pin tweet, let me just pin it on the show here. 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Hold on. You can see the schedule of 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,160 events from Thursday, Friday and Saturday. 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,120 And make sure that you apply on Luma and we'll get you accepted. 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,920 If you have a crypto punk, make sure you apply ASAP. 45 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:23,640 I got something special for you guys for VI. 46 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:27,880 PS We're going to do something very, very cool on Thursday 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,560 night at our house with Jacob and Co. 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,720 I'm allowed to say it now. So it's just awesome. 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,560 I just got there OK, like 5 minutes ago. 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,160 So we're going to be doing something fire with Jacob and Co 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,440 for the crypto punks out there. So if you're in the punks chat, 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,040 make sure you head over to the Miami one day. 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,760 But anyways, today on the show today we got a few people we 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,000 got, I'm sorry, we got a few things to talk about. 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Then we got guests at the end. So we got market report usual. 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Let's use OV while we got him and he's got to go in 20. 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,000 We got we got obviously, you know, topics of the day. 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 I I texted Tyler Mendel, like, listen, Tyler, I know you're not 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,280 on send me a few topics. And the boy did it. 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,240 He got he got off his Thanksgiving, you know, couch 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 and he sent me some stuff and guess what it's about all his 62 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:12,840 topics are about his bags. So AI virtuals, AIXBT, whatever 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,980 the hell gamble bought Classic. You know what, I'll pump my Co 64 00:03:15,980 --> 00:03:19,600 host bags. Then we're joined by white 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,960 walls. Actually, Blondie and Infinite 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,800 Objects, so to chat about what they're up to in Miami with us, 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,840 there's some of our partners doing some really cool stuff. 68 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,080 Shout to them. Always pushing the art space 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,680 forward. And then Robert Ludbach spins to 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 give you guys maybe a punk away today. 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,440 And punks are $140,000 now guys, the cheapest punk. 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,480 It was just 50 grand which is actually insane. 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,640 And as usual, Mando, who is this show sponsored by? 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Galaxy. Galaxies with seamless built in 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,720 monetization tools, Galaxies enables the development of 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,160 sustainable long term communities fulfilling bitcoins 77 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,640 vision of the centralized freedom and independence from 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,720 centralized control. Anyways, anyways, you know what? 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,920 I'm gonna go to OV first daily. Market Report. 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Brought to you by Rug Radio Joseph, what's the word? 81 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Mate, I haven't. I literally haven't looked at 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,440 markets. I know. 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,640 I've no, I've no fucking idea what's going. 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,320 On, in there. Hold on. 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,240 So we invited you on. We invited you on and you've 86 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:26,080 just, you're just useless. Honestly, like today was the 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,920 first day I looked at the S&P 500 in about six weeks. 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,080 I mean, you've been. Busy no that's it's above 6 Ki 89 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,600 didn't even know that like I just I just I've just been like 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,200 fully in crypto I. Know I know you've been busy. 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,800 You've. Been in like wrecked crypto, 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,000 little little dash of trenches. That's it. 93 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Like I don't even know like what the last inflation number was. 94 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,040 I don't even know like. We don't care about that 95 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,120 anymore. We're all I know is all I know 96 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,080 is Trump won and crypto is going higher and all that other shit 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,680 doesn't really even matter. Well, it does, but like, it's 98 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,960 not. Oh my God, yeah, I know, I know. 99 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Threw you a curveball here. I mean we're finally out of the 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,400 this range man, though I guess like we're flat line AT9295K 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,400 range and where it looks like just broke. 98 again 100K today. 102 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Come crawling back to me, have you? 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Because that's so bad. Stop it, stop it, listen listen. 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,920 What do you mean he used to coast like 800 episodes and 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,520 still not? I'm just here for like the I'm 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,160 just literally here for the banter. 107 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,560 I'm leaving in about 15 minutes. Yeah, it takes. 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,480 It all, Amanda. You do it. 109 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,800 You do it all. I I texted it will be late last 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,960 time like so Tyler's not here. Do you want to come for like a 111 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:36,040 like a little bit of the show? He's like, OK, fuck it. 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,480 Like he like subbed in real quick. 113 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,560 I mean, look like you know what fucking like Oh, like, how do 114 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,760 you feel about the market here? Like, look, Bay Coors 93. 115 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,360 You just made a try to make a call here. 116 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,120 I caught that try to call that we're going to hit 100K here 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,360 today. Maybe would be awesome. 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Wow, ether's friendly moving. Look at that. 119 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,720 Ether's doing well. I'm I'm bullish like it's the 120 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,040 same thing as we said a few weeks ago and we said in 121 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,720 September, like Trump wins and bullets throughout the rest of 122 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,680 the year through September into the start of January as well. 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,360 I think Bitcoin will go above 100 Ki think we'll start to see 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,960 a bit of an old season. You know like dominance is down 125 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,080 it is lower and we're seeing some old climb. 126 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,680 Obviously E doing well. I think memes are basically 127 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,400 coiling up for another run. We had a big run post the week 128 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,480 after the election. We had that big run and when 129 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,800 coined best listed everything and we had Robin heard their 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,240 stings and peanut went mental and stuff. 131 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,400 I think we are coiling for like another big run of memes here as 132 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,800 well. Yeah, it gets a bit more 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,400 challenging every single time because there's always more 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,400 memes. And you know, a month ago we 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,400 would have just been talking about like with the AI stuff, 136 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Pepe Morg, etcetera. And now we have like peanut 137 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,600 chill guy Moodeng, like like that list of, I don't want to 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,480 say blue chip memes, but that list of like source of like 139 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,280 higher tier means in terms of market cap just keep growing 140 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:04,600 each time. But I do think all of that stuff 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,920 can rally. Would it have rallied more if 142 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,480 there are fewer coins? Absolutely. 143 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,600 But I do think we're going to see a few coins like get into 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,040 Unicorn status. My bet on that would be like go. 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,640 I mean MOG is already there already I guess, but go Moodeng 146 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,480 peanuts already there, chill guy I think will go above a billion. 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Like all these big coins that are doing a lot of volume. 148 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,400 You just see the ones that are doing a ton of volume, the ones 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,000 that have perp listings that are doing a ton of volume. 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,040 I think they'll all get there and then we're going to see my 151 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,280 guess is we're going to see like some random 50 to 100 mil coins 152 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,640 like get listed by you know by some of the Tier 1 exchanges and 153 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,520 there's going to be a few 5 to 10X's there. 154 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,960 It's really hard to find those out and pick those, but it feels 155 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,920 like volume is your friend here and I would look towards where 156 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,200 the volume is. You have to be a bit careful 157 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,440 because there's obviously a lot of wash trading, especially on 158 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,920 Seoul. But yeah, I think it could be. 159 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,840 I think we're looking at another interesting few days ahead of 160 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,720 us. I don't want to talk about the 161 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,960 weekend because every time I talk about the. 162 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Weekend. It never happens. 163 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Yeah, so your tweet. I'm not going to. 164 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,920 We definitely fucked that one up, you and I the other weekend. 165 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,280 What's up? Every time I was like I. 166 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Was coming a big weekend. Bitcoin dumps and all memes go 167 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,240 down 30%. I was all bowed up about that 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,680 weekend too. I was like let's go that's going 169 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,600 to be the fucking weekend. Like peppin with from Coinbase 170 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,720 this week in the middle of the week. 171 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Bro that was the most boring weekend of the year. 172 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Nothing happened till like 9:00 PM Sunday night and here I was 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,919 wasting a weekend sitting at my computer all weekend long. 174 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:39,679 But you know what that felt good though, because it's definitely 175 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,000 time to be online. I'm curious what you guys think 176 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,640 of actually because obviously majors we know ETH pumped and 177 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 didn't dumped us Mendo. So I guess the curse may be 178 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,760 reversing here even with their founders hating on ETH by a 179 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,680 destroying the order books yesterday at the top. 180 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:57,440 Hopefully they don't dump another $500 million today as we 181 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,640 reach new local highs. But how do you guys feel about 182 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,520 the legacy major memes here? Like I'm seeing Pepe finally 183 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,880 catch a bid towards the upwards because it was only grinding 184 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,760 down. I mean, Whiff has been getting 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,320 battered since it was listed across like Robin Hood. 186 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,320 And I mean, that's it. That dog dude, they're 187 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,520 definitely trying to take his hat off and and look, seems like 188 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,080 they're not able to either. Bonk has got got some a pretty 189 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,160 aggressive retrace and now back. How do you guys feel? 190 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,040 I mean, I'll go to UOV first because you're leaving so then 191 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,400 Mando. But how do you feel about those 192 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,360 like major memes here versus all the others they just named like 193 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,200 the chill guy flavour of this of the Mont, the peanut, etcetera? 194 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,400 I think they'll go higher, but you just have to look at like 195 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,560 your upside potential. I mean, I really love Pepe. 196 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,280 I think Pepe is going to go a lot higher, but it's already at 197 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,040 what like an 8-9 billion dollar market cap. 198 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,040 Where do you think that goes? 20 or 30? 199 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,040 That's like a two or three X. So I think if you want to play 200 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,280 on large, it's it's a bit of a weird one because it's like, 201 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,800 yes, the downside of Pepe is going to be less than some of 202 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,400 this other stuff because it's a bit more, a lot more 203 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,560 established. But in order to get some 204 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,200 meaningful return, you have to play it, either play it in large 205 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:13,120 size or take leverage. So I kind of just think for me 206 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,680 it's like if you want to own Pepe, I kind of prefer to own 207 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:18,880 MOG because I think it's been a good sort of like Betus Pepe and 208 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,720 has had a lot of correlation. Now that's happened time and 209 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,400 time again throughout the year and it's at an eighth of the 210 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,200 market cap. So I think that, you know, it's 211 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,960 in my opinion, it's much easier for MOG to go from like 1 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,520 billion to two or three billion than it is for Pepe to go from 9 213 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,920 billion to 18 or 27 billion. I think it's as much as to add 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,000 to MOG. So I think my view is like the 215 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,760 the $1 billion means will compress and market cap to the 8 216 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,200 to $10 billion means stuff to sort of see like this a little 217 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,360 bit in my opinion. So look, I think it will do 218 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,880 well. I think it's, it's a fine long, 219 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,800 but in my opinion, it's worth taking a bit more risk on some 220 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,440 of this like 500 to $1 billion bucket stuff. 221 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,280 And you know, I mentioned them all, but I think like marks in 222 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,080 there really isn't there. I think Goat's a really good one 223 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,400 because it's just different to everything else. 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,320 There isn't anything else like it. 225 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:19,480 And it's 840,000,000 right now. Chill guy has, you know, crazy 226 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,120 that crazy mindshare and all those like social numbers are 227 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,520 through the roof. The that Google Trends chart is 228 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,880 like through the roof. So that's another one that I 229 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,640 think is really interesting. Like all that stuff I think is 230 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,040 like, I think they're not going to go away, but they have as 231 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,000 much more likely, you know, with a big tier one spot listing, 232 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,640 that stuff could 3 to 5X. And we saw it happen with 233 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Peanut. Remember like Peanut went from 234 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,560 70 mil to like 300 mil when it got listed in Binance and then 235 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:54,240 it did like another six or 7X. And I think that's what people 236 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,160 are thinking about, like can some of these coins and do that? 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,680 And I think they can. So that's why that's just why 238 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,240 that's how I'm thinking about it right now. 239 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,960 So I just don't feel like I need to being these are bigger legacy 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,320 memes. I think I'm willing to take a 241 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,440 bit more risk on some of this other lower market cap stuff 242 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,000 that I think is already somewhat established in the context of 243 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,560 the next few weeks. Not in the context KK will last 244 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:22,320 like into cycle, right? Like next cycle KK will do 245 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,600 really well still, but I can't say the same thing for Mudang or 246 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,320 chill guy, you know what I mean? And. 247 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,520 And and, but I'm think I'm so I'm just talking about this 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,560 cycle. I'm really just talking about 249 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:36,240 the next few weeks and I would kind of prefer to be in those, 250 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,120 but. OK, I see. 251 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,840 So you're like it's like taking it 1 notch further down the risk 252 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,000 curve. It's like you go from, you think 253 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,840 so? Yeah, you go from East to Pepe 254 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,840 and you go from Pepe to like Mog, for example. 255 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,080 Like I feel comfortable putting in large size into those coins I 256 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,840 just mentioned. Yeah, yeah, I'm listen, I'm 257 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,200 glad. I mean, you've named every 258 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,760 single one of my bags today on the show and I didn't talk to 259 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,360 you about him. I mean, we probably, we do talk 260 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,800 every day. But like, you know, anyways, 261 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 like you, you, you've managed to literally bull post every single 262 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,360 one of my holdings and my larger ones. 263 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,160 So it's great. So, you know, consider this 264 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,880 bait. And it worked. 265 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,240 Anyway, I was kidding, man. What do you, what do you think 266 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,120 about, about this and the, and the, and the, and the major 267 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,000 memes here? You know why I say that? 268 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,360 Because I keep going back to this chart of sheep and doge in 269 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,600 2021 post Coinbase listing. And it's like this infamous 270 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,520 chart of like the 40 days post listing all the way leading up 271 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,720 to Christmas when they ran to like 40 billion and $80 billion. 272 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,960 And it's like, I hate to say that it's not history preach 273 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,360 itself and often rhymes, whatever the fuck. 274 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Like it's like I it's, it's symmetrically like the same 275 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,560 thing happening on those charts. It's like they're grinding down 276 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,680 then just ran up to $40 billion. But like, what do you, what do 277 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,800 you, what do you think here of, of what Ovi's saying? 278 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,920 I think it's slightly different because at that time when some 279 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,840 if a friend was like what should I buy in crypto, you would only 280 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,960 really say doge right? Yes, that's true. 281 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,000 And now? Yeah. 282 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,120 Just think of that, that exact conversation. 283 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,120 It's like there's like 10 different ones. 284 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,720 And then it's not like they're blind to it as well. 285 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Like zoomers are coming in and they're buying whatever they 286 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,200 want. So I don't think you're going to 287 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:21,080 get like a like a doge style run, but I do think you'll see a 288 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,960 number of coins go and do very, very well. 289 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,720 But yeah, I don't think it'll be one coin does really well and 290 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,840 the others like don't. That's just my general view on 291 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,560 it. And I also think just like the I 292 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,800 think the ETH memes probably have a slightly better chance of 293 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,880 that than the Solana memes. Yeah, safer unless you've got. 294 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,960 A really unique story, but but yeah, I just, I I can't see 295 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,720 anything pulling a doge this cycle. 296 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Yeah, no, aside from DOGE itself, where's even DOGE 297 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,000 trading at today because got quite a pump on on Bitcoin 298 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,960 should be about $0.40. Oh, you're. 299 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,560 Just doing well, man. Wow. 300 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Yeah, back up towards local highs. 301 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Yeah. What's the high this? 302 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:13,080 So far, feeling like it could be a could be a big weekend. 303 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Stop it. Stop it. 304 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,960 No, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It can't. 305 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,040 It can't. It's not going to be a big 306 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:20,960 weekend, right? It's going to be. 307 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,120 It's going to be a shitty weekend. 308 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Some may say the writing is on the table here on the table. 309 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,720 Some may so on the on the wall, no. 310 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Oh, the writing's on. I think, I think I missed, think 311 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,720 I fudged two different sayings there, yeah. 312 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Yeah. Oh yeah, I I see what you did. 313 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,920 There combination of rice on the wall and balls on the table I 314 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,480 think. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I saw that. 315 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,280 I saw what you did there. Were you gonna say man, No. 316 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Balls on the wall. But nuts on the wall, the whole, 317 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,520 yeah, just a banana. A banana on the wall. 318 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Like, you know, he ate it. By the way, did you guys see the 319 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,440 clip? Yeah, it's a bit disturbing. 320 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Yeah, wild. How does a banana isn't like 2 321 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,280 years old? Like how does a banana stay so 322 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,640 ripe after like a year or so? Like please tell me where you 323 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,800 buy your. Banana new one up there each 324 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,240 time. No, they kind of change it. 325 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Yeah, you have to. It's like all authenticated 326 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,640 where they they change, they switch it around. 327 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,640 But it's the same duct tape every time, I guess. 328 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,920 It's the same time, I don't even know it. 329 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,600 I don't even think. Obviously mark piece, if it's 330 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,800 not the same banana, I'm sorry. It may not even be the same duct 331 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,440 tape. How could it? 332 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Be the same banana after two years, dude. 333 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Well that's what I'm asking too. Maybe it's the you know the GMO 334 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,320 shit nowadays is crazy brother in the in North America. 335 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Don't poison the shit out of you bro to make the food last long. 336 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 This is really incredible because not only is it not the 337 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,120 same banana, it's not the same duct tape. 338 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,320 So. It's kind of like nothing. 339 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Is it the same wall? I don't think. 340 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,760 I think it's literally nothing. I think it's just like hey I 341 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,680 bought this but like it's not the actual. 342 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,000 What does he care? He just pumped the band token 343 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,360 like he there was like there was a crime committed on that coin 344 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,280 like never before the cycle. So I was like, he's good. 345 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,920 He probably made like 10 of these bananas. 346 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,760 It's an. Interesting that was this whole 347 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,840 thing is an interesting coin that like the idea of like an 348 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:07,319 art piece that is like a that is like a coin he's going to see 349 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,599 remember B20? Remember B20 back in the day? 350 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:12,920 Like, Oh my God, yes, Look, he's so happy. 351 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:17,560 He's like, yeah, it's not the same wall. 352 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,880 It's not the same banana. It's not the same duck tape. 353 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,440 What the hell? This has got mainstream though, 354 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,839 that story right? Like a lot of people, a lot of 355 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,040 mainstream media is picking up on it. 356 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Isn't this so Alex Baker has something to say? 357 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,440 Of course he did. Isn't this why we all do crypto? 358 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,200 To get so absurdly rich that we can Lord of the serfs such as 359 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,360 senpai boy King Justin, you do it too? 360 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:46,520 If you could, Yeah, I guess if I was multi billionaire and I was 361 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,200 redacted, maybe I'd do something like, would you guys do 362 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,360 something like that if you were billionaires? 363 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,560 I mean the. Men's like man. 364 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,440 Maybe he's got a lot of money. Justin's son, right? 365 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,520 He's, yeah, he's got a lot of art. 366 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,280 He paid. I mean, Justin's son paid like 367 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,000 $70 million for a piece of art recently. 368 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Justin's son arts purchase. I'm sure he did, yeah. 369 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,640 The cover on the people piece as well, right? 370 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,120 He said he has on the people piece. 371 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Many times, I think a couple times in a row, right? 372 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Or I don't know, but when I look at the news though, let me tell 373 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,360 you it definitely hit the mainstream news because you 374 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:26,920 Google search in Canada, Justin's son art purchase and 375 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,120 it's just like crypto entrepreneur who bought the 376 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,880 banana art eats the fruit. The Toronto Sun. 377 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,520 It's got my name for sure Banana art he bought for 6,000,000. 378 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,400 How's the ban token doing on the back of that? 379 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,200 That's one token I never was into. 380 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,240 I'm just curious. It's up a little bit. 381 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,240 It's. Pretty good. 382 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,640 I mean I know it's down from like that 500 mil level but 136 383 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,600 mil? Damn, FTV for token? 384 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Well, there's a lot of tokens out there. 385 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 It's pretty, pretty solid. Wow. 386 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,560 So Justin's son, back in 2021 paid 78,000,000 for a piece of 387 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,200 art called Lenez the Nose by Alberto. 388 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,240 It's Linney. Linney. 389 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Yeah, exactly. We don't. 390 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,320 This is he is silent. Yeah. 391 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Lenez, Mate. Lenez, mate. 392 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,080 Hey mate, have you seen my new art Maze Colonize? 393 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Come on, Maze, Did you speak French yesterday on the show? 394 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,640 I. I speak French, don't worry, 395 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,320 just send me a joke. You've never spoken French to me 396 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,280 before. That's crazy. 397 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,760 We got we're going to speak French after the show. 398 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,440 Quickly. So this is what you paid $78 399 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,560 million for? Let's check it out. 400 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,080 Damn. I lunar that I found a son 401 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Giacometti. Oh, for Pinocchio, Right? 402 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:48,920 Interesting, Morbid a little bit. 403 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:52,840 No Twitch is on though. It's nice. 404 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,000 No, I was saying it's a little morbid looking, but like, yeah, 405 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,640 it's like, I don't dislike. I just look at them like that 406 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,000 man looks like look at this scary alien that they found in 407 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,440 somewhere and like, I don't know, ancient Egypt some shit. 408 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,080 Anyways, are you guys buying Tron on the back of that Tron 409 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,440 memes? Tron NFTS? 410 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Guys, it's so much money this year. 411 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Tron NFTS boom. I just tweet Tron FTS. 412 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,160 Let's see if that picks up. His Highness won't see it 'cause 413 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,840 he still has me blocked, but but we'll see. 414 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,000 It's so funny. I can now see his tweets and I 415 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:30,200 scroll on Justin Sun's account and it just says like Justin 416 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,720 Sontron has you blocked and I'm like God damn it, come on 417 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,160 Justin, he saw water on the bridge, right? 418 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Right. Anyways, question for you. 419 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,000 Question for you Ovie real quick, 'cause then you got to go 420 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,960 in 4 minutes. Have you been dabbling in AI at 421 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,480 all? The only AI coin I bought was 422 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,400 Shoggoth because I was like, I don't have to. 423 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,000 After the whole AI16Z thing, I was like, oh, I don't want to 424 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,720 have something where if someone rugs and it seems like some of 425 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,520 these AI Bros are coming in and being like, oh wow, I can 426 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,520 actually make some money and and kind of sort of like extracting. 427 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,680 So I don't want to be in something like that. 428 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,120 With Shoggoth, it's just like it's just an AI meme, but I 429 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:10,040 don't own it anymore. I sold it to buy something else. 430 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,560 Where'd you? Buy. 431 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,880 I own some this thing called Soliqui cat. 432 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,120 What the fuck is that bro? I couldn't spell the taker bro. 433 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,640 Yeah, there's something where there's like rumors where it's 434 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,200 like the Solana Foundation has like an AI ace thing, but yeah, 435 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,320 that hasn't been a good one. Did. 436 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,240 You come on here to start rumors about your bags this morning. 437 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600 100% no, that was the. Rumor Bill. 438 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Dude that's the rumor mill bro. It's a little little liquid cat. 439 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080 I think that's like a wet like a in the AI trenches. 440 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,840 That's like common knowledge I believe. 441 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,480 Mando, you're in the AI trenches. 442 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,160 What do you think? Have you heard of Siddell? 443 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 I think. Tyler's list of 70 AI coins. 444 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Dude is it in Tyler's list? Tyler's list is like longer in 445 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,000 the fucking Merriam Webster dictionary, bro. 446 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,320 But apart from that, no, I'm not really. 447 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,800 I mean, I get it and I'm not. I'm bullish on it. 448 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240 But for me, it's not my, it's not my wheelhouse, you know, 449 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,720 like I'm, I don't want to like have to dig into the shit. 450 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,360 I just want to be like oh that's good meme buy like. 451 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,680 Seems like you're similar to me. Are you in GOAT as well or? 452 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,440 I'm not in goat. That's the only thing I would 453 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,360 buy because it just feels like that's quite clearly the front 454 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:27,960 runner. But again, like for me to buy a 455 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,920 multi 100 million coin, like it's not really like something 456 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:39,160 like goat and go big size really have to be like, you know, I 457 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,640 know I said that earlier. I was like, you know, these are 458 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,200 the coins that. You got to it's, it's the risk. 459 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,880 If goat was an animal meme coin like a classic 1800 million, I 460 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,840 think it's it's a bit like oh, but I think because it's it's a 461 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,560 it's the leader of its own category. 462 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,200 I don't think it's going to be compared against like pop cat if 463 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,640 it goes to 1.3 billion. Do you know what I? 464 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Mean whereas if it's. SPX or or 1 of Murad's bags or. 465 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,120 I feel like those are more comparable. 466 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Yeah. It was a big rally though in the 467 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320 AI stuff yesterday. Big, big bounce across the 468 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,800 board. AIC, was it the back up to 300 469 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,120 million? Oh wow, OK. 470 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,360 I thought it was just some base. Well, across the board really. 471 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:31,960 So AI16C up to 300 million, zero borough back to 475. 472 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,320 Whoa. Virtual's hit 1.4 billion FTV. 473 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,880 Obviously it's much lower current market cap, but it's 474 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760 very high FTV. How much are we talking? 475 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600 Was that 40 mil when it was brought up on here? 476 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,600 Well, it's difficult because you're probably looking at the 477 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,040 current market cap and, and, and the current market cap is, is 478 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:57,800 quite different and it has quite a lot of vesting coming so. 479 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,720 I'm going to, I'm going to bounce guys, but. 480 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,800 COB, thanks for coming, it's so boring going to go. 481 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,720 Yeah, exactly. Unbelievable yawns and leaves. 482 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Unbelievable form. All right, the code for today's 483 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,080 giveaway. I just finished a little bit 484 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080 loot box spin too. Check it out, baby. 485 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,720 It's very little mana stings, but it's like big wins hype in 486 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,320 honor of Hyper liquid. We got to talk about that. 487 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,640 But if you go to rafflebot dot XYZ, rafflebot dot XYZ code 488 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,800 hype, HYPEHYPE and then in about 10 minutes we'll get into our 489 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,320 guest of the day and then we'll go in and give away some money. 490 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,520 But anyways, back to the AI stuff. 491 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 So well, AI16Z jumped again. I thought a lot of people lost 492 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,120 trust for that one. I guess not. 493 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Well, Virtuals is rallying and Virtuals I would say is the 494 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,280 number one competitor at AI616Z. And it's one point. 495 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Three, because they're both more infrastructure plays. 496 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:01,160 And so I think the disparity between Virtuals, I mean, 497 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,480 virtuals is releasing, you know, it's maybe a few 100 coins are 498 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,080 being released to stay on Virtuals. 499 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,960 AI16Z's Eliza model is still producing the majority of these. 500 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,560 So I think it was more just like a rel Valve thing more than 501 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,520 anything. Interesting. 502 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,280 Yeah, the AI trenches are definitely cooking right now, 503 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,840 man, people are making crazy money in there. 504 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,480 Yeah, that was a good trade here. 505 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,080 I. Mean, I think this actually just 506 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,640 took most stuff to unchanged on the week, if I'm honest. 507 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,800 It had been bad until a couple of days ago and then we're kind 508 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280 of back to where we were. So most coins are just back to 509 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,400 where they were a week ago now, Yeah. 510 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,920 Yeah, yeah. I mean far coin I feel like. 511 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,880 It's in two. Yeah, this one just feels right, 512 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,680 dude. Someone wants more. 513 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,240 But it's tough when the main one it. 514 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320 I feel like it's tough for the middle part here. 515 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,600 Forget the bottom part, but I feel like it's really hard for 516 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,280 the middle part to go higher as let's go. 517 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Just like kind of stay stuck in this range, right? 518 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,320 I feel like Goat's been in the 8th ranging between 800 to 519 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,480 $1,000,000 to billion for a long time now. 520 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Yeah, it's definitely been consolidating here for a long 521 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,240 time. A month actually. 522 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Which is kind of a good sign. I feel like you you need that 523 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,920 people believe it's valuable thing. 524 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,640 I also think the main thing about a lot of these memes, and 525 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,320 you know this from from from chill guy, right? 526 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,400 Like once pups gets added on, cognance takes a long time for 527 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320 that to like settle because you start and people start doing 528 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,920 like 10X levered and then you need a few wiped wipeouts 529 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,440 basically for it to properly rally. 530 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,840 And that's that's kind of a tried and tested thing that 531 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,240 happens, right. Like that's why I think that 532 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,280 till guy, in my honest opinion, needs like another spot listing 533 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,320 here to keep to keep it like or I think it could go sideways for 534 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,880 a little bit, not not necessarily go down, but I think 535 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600 you just because people will lever trade it, lever trade it, 536 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,000 right. Same with Moodang, right? 537 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,640 They go sideways and then as soon as the spot gets added, 538 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,680 like it can be a lot more difficult for just to have like 539 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,560 a sustained rally. So needs to. 540 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,680 Consolidate crazy Wick and then they they could. 541 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,880 I was talking about this morning, right? 542 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,480 I was like they all do this and then it's happened to Ben. 543 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,360 It happened to degen, happened to mudang. 544 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,360 It's like they all have this like bleed for a bit and then it 545 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,440 feels like they just RIP again, you know? 546 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,120 Like no doubt, but normally after a couple of months or a 547 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,160 month like then. They go again. 548 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,000 So, so I think Goat's probably in the on the but but I can 549 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,200 imagine if I could look through all those ones that have been 550 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,720 mentioned, right. So if we go down like Mog Mog, 551 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,880 has that got Binet spot yet? Mog does not No, Mog is not no, 552 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,040 I think it would be way higher. No Mog's got perps, Goats got 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,320 perp. They all got perps because 554 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840 that's it's funny though, like Binance. 555 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,920 It's they're being funny because like they list all these perps 556 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,360 memes and then you have CZ saying that name. 557 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,520 Corns getting weird, but then they don't spot that. 558 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,920 I don't I don't know, like they don't spot like the weirdest me. 559 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,400 I don't know, I don't know what's going on there. 560 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,520 Like you'd figure that forget my bags like, well, actually, no, 561 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280 maybe not, but like Mudang, like you'd figure Mudang would have 562 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,320 spot by now. So what's the like? 563 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,080 How? How does something make it to 564 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,800 spot? They, they just make a lot more 565 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120 money out of perps, right. You don't need a market maker 566 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040 for perps. They basically just run it 567 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,840 themselves, so and. They. 568 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Wipe you, they take it all out. They wipe you all out. 569 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,000 They know, you know, if you look at the actual money made by perp 570 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920 platforms versus spot platforms, it's much higher for perps 571 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,040 because perps, you're generally trading at risk, right? 572 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,320 You're 10X levered. So the majority of people will 573 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,440 not make money on perps just like as an overall metric, 574 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,200 because you have the Lev levered aspect of it all. 575 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,640 So they they make so much more money out of perps. 576 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,360 So the lonely really list spot if they if perps volume stays 577 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,160 high for a long period of time and often I think if the prices 578 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,920 settled down a bit. Do you know what I mean? 579 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Like so Mudang Yeah, that could that could get a spot listing 580 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,840 because it's it's settled down lower price points still doing 581 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,280 decent volume go Honestly, I think the best the best chance 582 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,560 for goat listing is Coinbase right now. 583 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Yeah, GOAT could get Coinbase just because of just because of 584 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,720 what's going on in virtuals like I think. 585 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,560 It would be. Because all virtual holders 586 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,600 think they're about to get listed on on Coinbase too. 587 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,480 Yeah, it's probably the pump, right? 588 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,440 the IT feels, I was thinking I guess something about the AI 589 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,040 thing. It's crazy. 590 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,320 I don't have much exposure. I mean, I I have large exposure 591 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,000 because of Go. Technically it's the AI sector 592 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,200 being one of my bigger rags, but it's it's it's it, I don't know, 593 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320 the whole AI narrative. Like the, I guess the more right 594 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,760 curve one seems to have moved to base a lot. 595 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,160 You know, like all these agents, like the all different types of 596 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,720 things, whatever the hell. Like it seems like a lot of that 597 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,000 action has moved to base right now. 598 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,040 So we'll see how how that that base narrative is sustained. 599 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,600 The last two times it wasn't sustained. 600 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360 We talked about it yesterday, but let's see if it's sustained 601 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,480 this time around and how Coinbase itself capitalizes on 602 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560 it, right? I think what happened really 603 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,560 there is just what happened with Phantom Phantom. 604 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Yeah, Phantom. Everyone was like, right, what 605 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,000 can we pump? No other no real base memes 606 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,360 really pumped apart from the these a a I think they saw these 607 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,960 coins as like a a unique thing that the base was good at and 608 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280 they could they could pump them basically. 609 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560 Interesting and. I think, I think I'm not saying 610 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,600 that won't continue, but I think like you can check out if you 611 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560 go, if you go Dune analytics, Dune analytics. 612 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,280 I mean, Brett has been $4 billion, dude. 613 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Jesus. Yeah. 614 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Wow. You want me to go Dune? 615 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,560 Go Dune. Yeah, dune.com. 616 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,880 What do you want to research? Virtual Virtual protocol. 617 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,440 Virtuals. Protocol. 618 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Virtuals. OK, Proto, there you go. 619 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Yeah, yeah. Just do that one here. 620 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Yeah, yeah. Let's see here. 621 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,280 Wow. So the number of tokens 622 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,320 launched, you can see here is is is about in the hundreds a day. 623 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,800 It's not unbelievably high. It's not like new coins at this 624 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,480 at this step. So although they I think they've 625 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,440 burnt something like in the millions of of I don't know if 626 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,760 you burn it actually, or like they've paid in the millions of 627 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,720 virtual to to to list these. So it's still like an early days 628 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,880 story, if I'm honest. It will be interesting. 629 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:14,400 Whereas I don't know how many agents are made on Eliza, Eliza 630 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000 agents per day. I wonder if anyone's written 631 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:27,160 that, but I think it's, I think it's, it is absolutely insane 632 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,120 amounts. OK, interesting. 633 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,880 It's going to be interesting to follow. 634 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880 But on base in general, I was wondering, I like to think, I 635 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,000 mean the best way to see if these tokens are going to if 636 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,360 their leaders are doing good, right. 637 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,600 So it's like they're not moving that like Brett has already 638 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280 moved up here to 170 billion before. 639 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,520 Where's Migos at? To me, Migos is like, I don't 640 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,600 want any. Migos is like the bulk of base, 641 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,280 right? It's like the animal face of the 642 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Coinbase meme or whatever the hell, right? 643 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,920 That's how I see it. What's that? 644 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,880 That's 90. That's 98,000,000, but it went 645 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,240 up to what? Went up to 188. 646 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160 So yeah, I guess you're right. It's really the base activity 647 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,400 right now is really all these, these meme coins, these AI 648 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,840 coins. You know what's really going 649 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,560 really hard? It's AIXPT, though. 650 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,960 That one is like nonstop. Because it's a, it's a, it's a 651 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,800 one on. I mean, it's interesting that 652 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,720 that Luna basically 200 got slips, yeah. 653 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,480 God damn, look at this. Yeah. 654 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,120 Jesus, Wow, have you? Seen the Twitter account though, 655 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,760 like it's getting decent engagement. 656 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Yeah, I had a notification. I had to turn it off because it 657 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,160 was just like doing the last system, some random coins. 658 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,920 And actually I was trying to tell this morning about it. 659 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,680 I was like what if it's wrong and actually apparently did the 660 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,040 wrong analysis on Vader it. It's wrong all the time. 661 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,280 It has hallucinations all the time. 662 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,640 I don't. I don't think this is maybe. 663 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,160 What is it? So Tyler said the same thing. 664 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,560 What the hell is an hallucination? 665 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,000 Hallucination is quite a popular term in AI to refer to when the 666 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960 AI just makes something up. Like you'll ask it a question 667 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,120 and it will just make something up. 668 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,760 It'll probably, it basically makes up the sources, that sort 669 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,960 of stuff. So when when you say a 670 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,880 hallucination, it's often that the AIS has made it up somehow. 671 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,920 Interesting. So its analysis will be wrong or 672 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,159 like completely misinterpret the situation. 673 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,440 OK, interesting. OK, I'm I'm curious to see where 674 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,320 this where they where they where they take this like what for 675 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,080 you? What's the upside? 676 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960 What's the upside left on something like ISBT? 677 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,719 Like for me, I was so tired about this morning because I was 678 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,280 like, So what where twisting this go? 679 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,480 It's probably zero bro levels, but then it's like to get so 680 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,520 like to get to that next level up. 681 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,080 Like right now it's this is just flip bully, right? 682 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,840 If you were to put it against like the smaller ones. 683 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,840 Yeah. Flip bully. 684 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,320 Look. As I've said to you before, like 685 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,560 I think the AI agents are the most difficult to play like, and 686 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360 I also think they're also the most dangerous because there is 687 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,200 a new one each week. There's literally a new one each 688 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,560 week. Yeah. 689 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,000 If I'm honest, the one that I that I liked which I I've said 690 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,240 at that lower price was AI16Z because it is parable to 691 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,800 virtuals right? Like it is, it's a it's an 692 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,440 infrastructure builder interesting, but and he's but 693 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600 he's lost like the trust. So like AI16Z if it hadn't 694 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,120 screwed up like could be 2-3 X its price right right now. 695 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,480 Yeah, you bottomed that too on that on the T GS podcast. 696 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,600 So it was like 150 I think, and then I think it's 2X it's. 697 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,280 But then who knows, like Zero Bro is going to come out with 698 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,680 its own version of this as well. And I feel different others like 699 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,800 that at the moment. Yes, there's only real 2 blur 700 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,920 and and and and open C of this NFT analogy, but there's going 701 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,960 to be so many more. There's going to be so many more 702 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,120 in in the coming weeks. But right now, the one if you're 703 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,440 like, oh, what looks cheap? I I would still say the AI16Z at 704 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,200 300 million versus virtuals at 1.4 billion seems wrong for the 705 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,160 amount of activity going up on both. 706 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,480 But the the tokenomics actually aspect of it is slightly 707 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520 different. One of them is a DAO which you 708 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,640 know you have your experience with Daos, and the other one is 709 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,360 is more like a you have to use. You have to use the token to 710 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,600 actually create an agent. When, when when I started to go 711 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,040 with fucking TG and Frank and shit were like trying to push 712 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,120 the DAO model on the timeline and their streams the other day, 713 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,080 the other week. I was like, that's are we going 714 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,560 back there there again? Like I, there's nothing I'm not. 715 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,240 Doing it just one more goat. Goat looks. 716 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,680 I did mother I I reckoned goat with my back on the dip. 717 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,920 I literally whatever I topped at 1 billion. 718 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,880 I bought the same amount of the dip on purpose just so I could 719 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,320 just so I could double the position because my goat keeps 720 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,640 talking about it. He's Mendel's out there shilling 721 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,920 goat like everywhere. Y'all like he's in the boys chat 722 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,480 all day long. Goat, goat, goat. 723 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,080 He. He. 724 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,680 When was the last time I mentioned go? 725 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,800 I barely ever mentioned it. Just now I got you got you. 726 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,720 Bitcoin is about to hit. It's it's all time high, which 727 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,640 you absolutely love to see. Maybe it's because we got that 728 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,240 big Miami energy that just joined us on the show. 729 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,760 So hang tight. Y'all raffle bought that XYZ for 730 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,600 the giveaways. The code is hype, HYPE, which 731 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,400 quickly I'm gonna go to y'all. I see Joe, I see Blondie on the 732 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,680 Twitter space. I'm going to y'all in a minute. 733 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160 But man, though there's a big air drop happened this morning. 734 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040 This hyper liquid one dude, I didn't partake because I didn't 735 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,560 really use hyper liquid in Richardson. 736 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,440 Like damn, why didn't I? Because obviously I treated a 737 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,960 lot this last few months, but seems extremely successful. 738 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,800 I mean. Hyper Liquid has been one of the 739 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,120 the the most successful apps in crypto this year. 740 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,560 This was a very, very hyped. This is not very, very hard. 741 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,040 It is a pup decks. It's not there's not really much 742 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040 more to it than that at the moment at least. 743 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,600 But the UIUX was was very much liked. 744 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,600 It's on Arbitron, which it's like the number one app on 745 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,520 Arbitron. But just like so far, I don't 746 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,920 know if they go down the route of DYDX and do their own chain, 747 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480 but yeah, that's where we're kind of at. 748 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,640 Like I think it's kind of like Jupiter, you know, it's got that 749 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,040 much of A of a market share in, in perps. 750 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,800 So yeah, it's. It's good for people I know 751 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960 where's I know like OG Farmer. I know like a lot of the big, a 752 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,880 lot of folks got a big. All the perp traders, all the 753 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,840 big perp traders have have done well from this. 754 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960 Yeah, that's good because the perpetrators are degenerate, so 755 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,320 they just put it right back into the market, you know what I 756 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,240 mean? Like, it's not like they're 757 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,640 gonna go and like, take it out and do this. 758 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,480 Hopefully they buy, they buy, they they buy what what, what, 759 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,120 what we're into. But anyway, so that was a good 760 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,240 thing. I mean, you love to see it, 761 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,640 right? Like we, we, we need stuff like 762 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,760 that. It's good for the space. 763 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,160 It's good. These airdrops have magic eating 764 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,000 coming, you know, God willing, the open sea tokens come in. 765 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,520 But I don't know what I's gonna do, you know, maybe Madam ask. 766 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,520 I don't know. I don't know. 767 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,320 I don't know. I don't know.