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Good morning, Good morning 
everyone, GM, GM and welcome to 

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another episode of Omo Hour Day.
Day is Monday, April. 7th. 

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Point .5 post We thought we 
thought it might be Black 

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Monday. 
We had Black Thursday and Black 

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Friday and then Black Sunday 
night. 

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It was setting us up for a rough
start to the week. 

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Global markets crashing, US 
equities hitting bear market 

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territory. 
Crypto was following. 

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But now Trump's telling everyone
don't be panicking and and 

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markets are starting to respond.
The question is, can we trust 

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him or should we be panicking? 
We're going to break it all down

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on today's show. 
No Faroque. 

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He is traveling today, but we've
got Mando in the house. 

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Mando, Jim, how are you holding 
up? 

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I'm holding up OK. 
Yeah, I'm holding up OK. 

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I've actually traded pretty well
the last few days, so I've been 

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relatively happy with how I did 
it. 

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But yeah, we're luckily we we 
started bouncing as soon as the 

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show went live. 
Otherwise it was looking to be a

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very stressed opening day the 
week for us. 

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We can get into all that. 
But yeah. 

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We will the tone of the show 
quite different starting at 10 

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AM versus how do we start at 
9:30. 

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Yes, so very different. 
You were tuning into a very 

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different episode of FOMO Hour, 
folks. 

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It is going to be a tighter show
here this morning, but we are 

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going to talk everything about 
these markets. 

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Stocks are falling Sunday night.
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to rebound despite Asia markets 
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worst days of all time. 
We had folks crashing down the 

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timeline, including Bill Ackman,
JP Morgan raising their 

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recession odds, Stanley 
Druckenmill are actually coming 

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out and defending tariffs to a 
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And then Trump has started to 
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yesterday and now this morning. 
So we're going to talk about 

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that cryptos potential relative 
strength. 

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Does anything look like a buy or
are we still selling all of the 

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pumps and more? 
So that's what we're going to 

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talk about on today's show. 
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Now, Mando, if you're ready, 
let's get right into it. 

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Can you dig it? 
GM everyone so yeah, we had a 

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pretty wild weekend to be 
honest. 

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Crypto have been outperforming 
for a little bit. 

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Obviously on Friday it was and 
then what you started to see on 

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Friday was that everyone was 
like, oh, you know, we've had 

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this good correlation to gold, 
even gold side to sell off. 

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So there was kind of this oh 
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sort of market here and crypto 
seemingly got caught up in that 

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as well. 
So you saw gold, but go down to 

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3K from where was it about 3103 
thousand 200 nearly and you saw 

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global stock. 
There was just I think there was

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an expectation on Friday that 
maybe deals would get done over 

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the weekend. 
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deal done with the UK, with 
Canada, with Japan, like maybe, 

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maybe they'd be light at the end
of the tunnel for these sort of 

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deals. 
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be the case. 
In in fact, Trump's comment made

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some comments last night, which 
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reparations for previous trade 
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And it felt like they were maybe
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morning. 
You've seen a slight softing 

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from certain points. 
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we're actually going to delay 
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tariffs until later this month. 
And then they said, and leave 

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the door open maybe for a deal 
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You saw that Japan's Prime 
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with the US and maybe that could
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We saw that, yeah, just a 
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softening or or at least 
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could still be a route open for 
deals, not really from Trump, 

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but from other people, let's 
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And some indications, you know, 
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administration that countries 
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We had the figure that fifty 
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deals. 
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slightly better about the market
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This morning. 
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there was there was a headline 
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bit of a bounce, which is 
probably the bottom looking back

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at it, which is that the Fed is 
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actually a fairly standard 
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So I wouldn't read too much into
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special meetings like that 
around COVID and also around the

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the SSVPSVB collapse, you know, 
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It doesn't like that what's 
happening today, but undeniably,

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I'm sure they'll be talking 
about what's going on in the 

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stock market. 
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until now, like rest of world 
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outperformed U.S. stocks. 
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that that changed. 
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13%. 
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Various different European stock
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It was it was definitely a 
bloodbath kind of across the 

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board. 
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definitely feeling it, 
definitely feeling it this 

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morning. 
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going to get fixed. 
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saying is that the response to 
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I think we're going to see 
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to do some sort of stimulus, 
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morning. 
And so this idea that global 

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liquidity will go higher feels 
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And and we're going to see money
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with the help deal with the 
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So yeah, I think I think I'm not
feeling as bad about stuff this 

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morning. 
At least I can see we can have a

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relief rally. 
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we're out of the woods by any 
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Trump is still pointing to the 
idea that, you know, there 

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should be no trade deficits 
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And I feel like his base is also
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behind him on this. 
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has kind of changed to lowering 
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to like redistribute wealth and 
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empowering the Trump base. 
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that he I've been thinking a lot
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there's been an like a kind of 
implicit decision that one of 

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the only ways to improve income 
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and basically cut trade deficits
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than tax on which. 
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at. 
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And I think that's fairly spot 
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And I mean some more thought. 
I've spent most of the weekend 

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thinking about this and like, 
what are the scenarios from 

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here? 
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any scenario where Trump just 
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reverses course. 
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outcome is he truly was using 
these absurd numbers as 

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negotiation tactic and tries to 
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negotiations here and get down 
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more reasonable level, it's 
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But I mean, I think even that's 
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I'm not sure if he wants to do 
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I've been like, I've been 
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like, and I use Vietnam because 
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But like the general thesis 
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there's a group of people that 
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group of people that live in a 
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right? 
And the basis of this is that do

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you think, do you think there 
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between those two people? 
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country would import more than 
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let's say, or, or where there's 
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Now the Trump, how this is 
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there should be no trade deficit
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If there is, we're going to tax 
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And that puts a country like 
Vietnam, like it can't, it can't

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import enough to, to, to fix 
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But, and there seems to be like 
expectation that actually we 

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kind of want to do some of the 
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countryside, in the big mega 
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actually we want to do that too.
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of what's going on here. 
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actually redistribute the wealth
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And that is quite a popular 
thing with Trump, with Trump's 

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base and with a lot of people. 
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to happen, it's like we're going
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the wealthy. 
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a kind of at odds with the 
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I I would say, or like it's seen
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against incentives. 
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you just tax anyone who import 
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US. 
Everyone doesn't necessarily do 

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better in that scenario. 
Like everyone can actually do a 

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little bit worse in that 
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But the US is the strongest 
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demographics, biggest, biggest 
military, like easily has the 

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most firepower to deal with 
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So it's kind of one of these 
worlds where I think the the bet

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here is the US will do better 
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happens. 
Like I would say global wealth 

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may come down in that world, but
you also get a situation where 

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the US redistributes it's wealth
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So and I think that's kind of 
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It's, well, not really changing,
but like they're fine with that.

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So I don't think Trump's backing
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I think this is kind of like, I 
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Yeah, Yeah. 
I mean, he's, he said as much. 

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I mean, he, he came out and said
our intention was not to crash 

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markets, but also that sometimes
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And like the, they've been 
saying, there could be some 

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pain. 
I've, I've had, I'm in law. 

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People have been trying to 
digest this all the, over the 

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weekend. 
Some are saying like, at what 

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point would we see civil unrest 
perhaps in the US? 

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But I think you kind of nailed 
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I, I don't know that we are very
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because the, the, the people 
most disproportionately impacted

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are the wealthiest, right? 
And and they're not be the ones 

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who who take to the streets and 
I don't think most most people 

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are are are they're not impacted
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I think it's it's still to be 
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Give me give me one quick 
second, but. 

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Yeah, I, I think that's 
basically what's going on. 

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I, I don't think, I think he 
might win, win people over this 

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way. 
It's definitely an America First

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policy and it does affect 
multinational corporations quite

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badly. 
But again, like a lot of people 

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in the US don't like 
multinational corporations. 

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So, and there's all other 
attempts to kind of solve income

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inequality are generally seen as
they, they just, they're not as 

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popular. 
It, it's, it's, it's, it's a 

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weird notion, but like taxing 
the rich is far less popular 

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than taxing, taxing foreign 
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And even though the tax on 
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your everyone's economic wealth,
including the US more, the 

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concept is, is that that is one 
of the best ways potentially to 

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reduce income inequality in, in 
the US. 

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And I see it, you know, like I 
see it from more right wing 

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commentators that like, this is 
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Suddenly it's like, hey, we've 
actually fixed income inequality

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more than like the left has for 
like 50 years here, right. 

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And that's something that's 
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So I, I kind of feel as though 
this can continue. 

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And I don't think he's in a rush
to make deals. 

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Yeah. 
I think, but what's? 

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Bitcoin and crypto, I think it's
as I've said before, I think 

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this is going to lead to massive
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happening. 
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potentially also an erosion of 
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at least like what all Fiat 
currency power I feel can be 

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slightly diminished here. 
Like if free trade is diminished

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in this world, then then you can
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people need dollars, few people 
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Fewer people want to do that in,
in various different countries. 

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If that gets diminished. 
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think, I think crypto can still 
do well. 

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I, I really do. 
I was surprised that they traded

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badly this weekend, but you have
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on asset that is 24/7. 
So people go in and they're 

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like, need to short it on a on a
weekend, you know? 

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This is sorry, I I literally 
exclaimed when I when I went 

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back to the crypto board folks, 
because this is not quite the 

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rebound Bitcoin back over 80 K. 
It was it went sub 76 on the 

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market open just 45 minutes ago 
and now like the weekly numbers,

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we just had the one of the worst
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Now, of course, stocks are 
rebounding. 

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The S&P flips green as well, but
in U.S. equity history and 

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bitcoins down 3 1/2 percent on 
the week. 

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I think that's pretty, that's, 
that's a pretty strong signal 

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and, and Sailor didn't buy. 
He came out and said it. 

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What a great week for Sailor not
to have bought. 

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there was, maybe we'll find out 
if GameStop was the one buying 

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Friday. 
I think Friday was where it 

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really felt like there was a 
strong bid when it was Friday 

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afternoon and equities kept 
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Bitcoin was holding that 83K 
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And I think a lot of folks 
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or or GameStop, but. 
I just don't think we're like, 

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I'll be very don't confuse 
volatility with we're so back or

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it's so over. 
I think we're just in a period 

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of very heightened, like even 
now you have like, Oh my God, 

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we're going, we're so back. 
Just be aware that this is a 

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market that is insanely 
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Like I, I said it over before we
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feels like we're about to bounce
just because like, it's not that

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any good news had really come 
out. 

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It's not like Trump suddenly 
changed his opinion. 

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It's just like everyone just 
feels like they're, they're too 

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short. 
So no, in that world, like 

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there's extremes of positions 
right now and you can gap up 10%

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and there'd be no news, 
literally nothing. 

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So I feel like that's also the 
world we're in. 

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So I, I think Bitcoin can 
continue to outperform global 

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stocks, everything here, but it 
had a bad weekend and it 

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sometimes does. 
Do you remember like when all 

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the Middle Eastern wars were 
happening or like flare ups were

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happening? 
It was just like, why is Bitcoin

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the thing? 
There was a little bit of that 

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this weekend where it was just 
like, right, we're just going to

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pummel Bitcoin into the US stock
market open because everyone's 

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freaking out and that that, but 
this is a good sign. 

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The fact that it held that 7676 
K level which is hit a few times

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again is a good sign. 
Definitely a good. 

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Sign I'm curious if you so I've 
seen more and more of the the 

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bear takes that we would 
effectively erase the entire 

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Trump pump on Bitcoin basically 
taking us back to like 66 K. 

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Do you have any targets? 
On Bitcoin. 

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On Bitcoin, again any lower 
targets that you think are 

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possible or the levels that you 
feel the seem seem safer or 

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curious if if that's how you're 
looking at it or? 

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Feels like it's a really good 
sign that it hit that level 

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again. 76 Ki think there'll be a
lot of by walls now that 76K 

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level. 
I don't think we're out of I 

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don't think we're out of the 
woods though. 

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Like this feels like a a relief 
rally rather than like, oh, 

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something's going to come and 
save us. 

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You know what I mean? 
I think a lot of people are just

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so used to the COVID situation 
where it's just like, we're 

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going to turn on the taps, 
something fundamentally change. 

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We're going to save everyone. 
No one's coming to save this 

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market here. 
It doesn't feel like it. 

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We've just spoken about how 
Trump's incentives are maybe 

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even to continue this. 
And we've just spoken about and 

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the Fed basically came out on 
Friday and said we're not going 

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to help. 
So your best bet here, in my 

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opinion, is the Chinese central 
bank, potentially Japanese 

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central bank, potentially 
European Central Bank, British, 

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you know, the, the, yeah, the 
British central central bank. 

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And potentially then we get a, 
yeah, we get money printing 

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from, from them or money 
printing by another name. 

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It doesn't feel like the Fed 
wants to step in here. 

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And that's been, that has been 
something that has happened 

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since 2008 and it hasn't, 
doesn't look, it looks like 

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things are going to have to get 
a lot worse. 

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And the, the, the thing that's 
interesting, a lot of people 

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have been talking about the fact
that, oh, he wants to get the 10

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year lower. 
This is the day where the 10 

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year is higher. 
It's gone back to 4.1%. 

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You know, this is going to lead 
to inflation. 

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It's not easy for the Fed to 
come and just cut rates. 

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Like Trump keeps on talking 
about that. 

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But like, it's not easy. 
Jerome Powell's probably sitting

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there going like, I'm going to 
wait and see. 

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Like I, I don't want to cut 
rates if inflation's going to 

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continue higher. 
So I would, yeah. 

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I just be wary of, of thinking 
the Fed is going to save you. 

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I think you you got to hope 
weirdly that that you basically 

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see money printing coming out of
other countries. 

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I've seen totally two different,
totally different schools of 

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thought. 
Some were saying that a rate 

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hike is even on the cards for 
2025. 

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And then you've got like this 
polling market rate cut market 

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has five cuts at 15% chance. 
Now let's see four cuts is up to

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20%, three cuts at 20%. 
So, so folks, I think that's in 

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line with with. 
Other markets as well that that 

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what 4 to 5 are starting to get 
priced in over the weekend. 

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I thought I saw, but that's 
going to continue to be very 

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volatile. 
I mean, clearly prices are 

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incredibly volatile live as 
we're speaking. 

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So we were, we were over 80 K. 
Now we're back at 78 six. 

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So we're just bouncing all over 
the board. 

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I am curious, you said you had a
good weekend trading like is any

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are are you buying? 
Are you just scalping? 

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I know OV came out and shared 
that he effectively sold an 

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Autoglyph and bought AI16Z, but.
I bought I bought far coin on 

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Friday, which has probably been 
my best trade for the weekend. 

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And then I have just traded 
around some of the L ones and 

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time some of these moves 
relatively well getting in and 

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out. 
So that I've been, I've been 

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definitely more day trading over
the last because the swings have

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been insane. 
But like the gap down from 

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Sunday, I largely avoided. 
And then I bought just before we

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went live and I just told you to
OSF like I was like, I think 

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we're going to bounce here. 
I've bought a bunch of things. 

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So I've traded well the last few
days for sure. 

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It's probably one of my best 
trading periods for the last 

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three months. 
Well, you, you love to hear it. 

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I feel like I've been talking 
about this maybe too much but 

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this far coin strength is just 
like insane to see. 

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Are we just we're having global 
market meltdowns? 

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It's like circuit Breakers are 
being hit. 

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Yeah, it's good that it's 
returned to the common like 

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Fintwit, right? 
It's definitely being spoken 

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about on Fintwit again a lot 
more, which I think is just 

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interesting because it was a 
period where it was like, Oh 

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yeah, it's over. 
But now like, it's like, Oh my 

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God, fart coin is the one thing 
outperforming the S&P 500. 

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And that's a great story again, 
so. 

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Yeah, these things die not from 
FUD, but in in silence, like the

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you you want the attention 
factor. 

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And I mean now, like the mind 
shares like is quite like is off

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the charts like cookies still 
measuring this and they they 

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still have fartcoin in the AI 
bucket, for what that's worth. 

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But it's it's 30%. 
Me, me in general, me in general

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held up OK here in my opinion. 
SPX as well had a had a decent 

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period here. 
He's back at still at five, 2500

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ish. 
Those two in particular have 

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held up very well so. 
Is there, I was thinking about 

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this a little bit over the 
weekend. 

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Like is, is this a sign of like 
financial nihilism returning to 

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a degree like, oh, like markets 
are all fucked there. 

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There's nothing I can do about 
it. 

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I'm just going to go back to 
the, the the if I can't buy what

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considered value assets because 
they're all going down 5 to 8% 

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per day. 
Strong stocks are are doing the 

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same. 
Like, why not just fired into 

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memes? 
I don't know. 

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That's just a thought that was 
crossing my head as I try to 

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wrap my head around why these 
these memes are outperforming 

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and like these these are the top
2 movers of the entire top 100 

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crypto tokens right now as far 
coining SPX, so it's pretty 

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undeniable. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I don't really know. 
Like it feels like it feels like

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those two in particular are just
going to be like the ones at 

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least in the, in the, in the 
broader meme point space, those 

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two have been like chosen as the
ones that like people want to 

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own on days like today. 
So yeah, it's. 

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I would tend to agree. 
The. 

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Question is, does that mean 
displace? 

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Are they going to displace other
traditional memes or are they 

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just the new editions? 
I think one of the questions 

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here, it's like, where's Mog 
Mog's green today? 

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MOG is getting destroyed, yeah. 
It's 120 million. 

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Wow. 
Yeah, Mog's been destroyed. 

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Like honestly annihilated so. 
Perhaps there there is a 

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changing of the guard to a 
degree here. 

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I think the other chart that's 
been absolutely destroyed is 8 

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Bitcoin. 
I don't know if you've been 

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seeing this, but this morning it
it it broke point O2. 

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Is it point O 1/9? 
It was 52 ETH for one Bitcoin 

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and I got like where where is 
the bottom? 

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Like are we going to see 75 to 
100 to one? 

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Are there scenarios where that 
happens? 

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It's just 52 seemed like a far 
fetched number. 

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On January 1st it was 27 to 1 
and now it's 52 to one. 

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Try to pull this up. 
So we're just kind of running 

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out of words to talk about this 
at this point in time. 

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Yeah, Ether is dead. 
It's over. 

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I'm sorry guys, I'm not talking 
about it. 

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The amount of airtime that it 
gets on different shows for 

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this, it's, it's just painful. 
Like I, I, I talk about this 

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over all the time, but like, 
it's, yeah, it's just, it's just

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not been a good hold and, and 
it's under, it's even 

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underperforming today, right? 
Underperforming today. 

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So sad, very sad. 
It's a tough one. 

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It's a tough for my beloved 
punks Bitcoin ratio, which got 

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whacked in this E down move. 
The punk floor held even, but 

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with ETH getting crushed punks 
back down to 63 K. 

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So now 20% below Bitcoin more 
actually right now. 

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So not not exactly what we what 
we wanted to see here. 

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I'll go around the horn. 
I think that that's a really 

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good summer on the market, man. 
Thank you for that. 

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It was a quiet weekend. 
I think a couple headlines that 

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jumped out. 
One, Tether basically said at 

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the US is not going to embrace 
USDT, they're going to launch 

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AUS friendly stable coin. 
So I think that's perhaps 

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various for Circle. 
And then Circle also is 

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reportedly, I think this is more
tied to some rumors. 

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It hasn't been like they they 
haven't come out and said this, 

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but now they're thinking about 
delaying their IPO because of 

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all the effectively because of 
the FUD from those Coinbase fees

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00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000
and perhaps trying to get better
deals lined up to make some of 

449
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:11,480
those financials look better. 
So, yeah, I think, I think it's 

450
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,360
a tough time, right. 
You have a period where they're 

451
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,840
trying to crash the 10 year, 
which is basically their 

452
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,240
business model. 
And then and you have crypto in 

453
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,120
general not feeling so great. 
They probably just don't think 

454
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,560
they can get that valuation 
right now. 

455
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,520
I don't think if you're if 
you're own circle, I don't, I 

456
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,200
just don't really know why 
you're trying so desperately to 

457
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,200
IPO like you've got this great 
business, but maybe maybe they 

458
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,640
desperately need to get out of 
the stock. 

459
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,800
I don't know. 
Kind of feels like, you know, do

460
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,520
you see Tether worrying about 
IPO ING like 4 billion a year 

461
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,960
like. 
Exactly how you. 

462
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,680
Yeah, exactly. 
Do you really like desperately 

463
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,040
need to sell equity in your 
company? 

464
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Just just fucking clip the 
coupon every single year. 

465
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Dream I I don't feel sorry for 
Circle executives that missed 

466
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,480
their IPO window. 
Like if you needed that, then 

467
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,240
you need to run your business 
differently. 

468
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,360
I think that's a a flooding goal
is it's the question of why do 

469
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,800
they do this? 
Is it because they see their 

470
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,440
business model falling apart as 
Trump administration tries to 

471
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:28,880
bring the, the tenure down, 
which we'll see if if that's 

472
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600
actually going to pan out for 
them. 

473
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,040
I guess any, any surprises this 
morning before we wrap things 

474
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720
up? 
You know, I, I, it seemed like 

475
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,520
everything was crashing. 
We're rebounding. 

476
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280
It felt like interest rate 
spiking caught people off guard 

477
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200
this morning. 
So I guess anything that 

478
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,680
surprised you or or any final 
thoughts as we go into the? 

479
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,760
Just interest rates. 
Just pay attention to Bitcoin. 

480
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,560
I think that's the main thing 
like bit Bitcoin to me, I think 

481
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,880
it's going to, it's probably 
going to have another retest 

482
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:11,440
above 80 K here. 
I, I'm, I'm still not of the 

483
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:18,760
view that something like Solana 
is necessarily going to be like 

484
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,560
a screaming buy for the next 
couple of weeks. 

485
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Like I still think that like 
Bitcoin, Bitcoin is up again 

486
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,560
today. 
So it's approaching 64%. 

487
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200
I just, I just feel like that's 
an up only chart, whatever 

488
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,640
happens for the next for the 
next few weeks. 

489
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,720
Yeah, I think that that's fair. 
I did hear choose Rich Nick on 

490
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,600
the Nifty show this morning 
talking about how he feels like 

491
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Solana is actually an 
interesting buy with Bitcoin 

492
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,680
here just because he he felt 
like the downside is somewhat 

493
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,840
capped perhaps in like the 20% 
range. 

494
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,320
It's like if you think 80 is a 
strong floor for Solana and you 

495
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,040
can buy it at 100, decent risk 
reward there just because your 

496
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,720
your chance to to have it scout 
back to 140. 

497
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,920
I mean Seoul was 140 a week and 
a half ago, right? 

498
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,360
So you have a chance to catch a 
bigger move than Bitcoin. 

499
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,840
But it's at the same time I'm 
not personally racing to buy 

500
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:26,360
Solana. 
Yeah, I, I, I think it's more 

501
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840
like a, this isn't just a Solana
thing. 

502
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,680
This is like an L1 thing. 
It's like it feels as though 

503
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,000
people are leaving crypto right 
now and those stories can take a

504
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,960
long time to come back, right. 
So, and it's not that I don't 

505
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,480
think Solana will dominate when 
they do. 

506
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,960
It's just more like it's the 
same reason why ETH is like not 

507
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,800
trading that well. 
It's there's so much block 

508
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,800
space, right. 
So you've got to hope that like 

509
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,960
your, your chain stays relevant 
in a quiet period. 

510
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:59,040
And Solana, it feels as though a
lot of the activity on there was

511
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,960
was more left curve as well. 
So I don't know. 

512
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,920
I really don't know. 
I think that's fair and also I 

513
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,840
think watching ETH not have a 
successful comeback cycle here, 

514
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,680
I think is also perhaps hurt 
upside of Solana, rightfully or 

515
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,920
wrongfully is people saying like
this whole next man up, like 

516
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,640
there's always going to be a 
next hot chain and maybe you 

517
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400
aren't meant to hold these 
beyond their initial, you know, 

518
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,920
big cycles. 
So that that's a real narrative 

519
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,760
out there. 
So I think that's one that, you 

520
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360
know, we'll continue to watch, 
but we'll see. 

521
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640
Is it going to be turn around 
Monday, folks? 

522
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,800
I don't know, but we're starting
to see signs of it. 

523
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,960
So it looks like the. 
White House just has the White 

524
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360
House just denied that they are 
delaying tariffs. 

525
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280
There was a good time that they 
might be delaying tariffs, but 

526
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,400
they just denied it. 
So we're back down again. 

527
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,160
Yeah, we'll turn around the 
other way. 

528
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,040
So expect more piercing 
volatility. 

529
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360
I think it is the is the take 
away. 

530
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240
But folks quicker show here on 
on Monday. 

531
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,080
We will be back with a longer 
show tomorrow. 

532
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,320
That is it. 
That's going to be our show. 

533
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,280
I want to thank our listeners, 
want to thank our partners as 

534
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,960
always want to thank Amanda. 
We'll be back tomorrow, 10 AM, 

535
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440
10 AM Eastern. 
Until then, go make it a great 

536
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day.
