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Yo-yo, yo, what up, what up? 
Good morning, Good morning. 

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GFG Thursday. 
Oh yeah. 

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Thursday, March 20th, 2025. 
Look at that. 

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Another beautiful day to have a 
beautiful day. 

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A big GM to my fellow Persian 
people. 

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Happy norus, Happy New Year. 
This morning, 5 O 1:00 AM 

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Eastern Standard Time, the 
spring equinox hit. 

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The birds were chirping, the sun
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know, surprising or it was 
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world where it was where it was 
daytime. 

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So definitely, definitely want 
to wish all those who celebrate,

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even those who don't, you know, 
Tyler, even to you family, but 

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he else, you know, so it's a 
moment of renewal, affluence, 

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love and all that good stuff. 
So you'd love to see that Tyler,

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Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, how you 
doing today? 

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Good morning. 
I'm good. 

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I love spring, one of my 
favorite seasons. 

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So good. 
We're not quite there yet. 

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We had a snow. 
We had a don't. 

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Look outside. 
Chicago yesterday. 

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It's brutal, there's snow on the
ground but ready to turn things 

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around and markets looking 
pretty good this morning, so I'm

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feeling good. 
The market's looking to just 

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bring us around the corner, you 
know what I mean? 

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Like the the market is trying to
give us a little bit of 

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something. 
I think that snowstorm we're 

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talking about is making this way
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We're good today, but I think 
I'm pretty sure it's on its way.

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So it's like we're we're never 
going to not have snow. 

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It's crazy classic. 
It's a classic little it shakes 

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the IT shakes the paper hands 
here in Montreal every time. 

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End of March, you know, and you 
got all the snowbirds that fly 

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back to Canada and then they 
slap him with another fucking 

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snowstorm. 
Classic, classic. 

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Anyways, everybody tag Mando. 
Where the fuck is Mando? 

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I, I have no idea. 
I'm A tag him. 

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I'm attacking the other show we 
have. 

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Are you coming on the show 
today? 

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So the other show we got, we got
we got so much to talk about. 

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We got the market at 4 MC 
yesterday. 

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All the good stuff. 
The most powerful man on earth. 

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That's not a president. 
It's your own Powell. 

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Take the stand. 
That guy is so powerful. 

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When you think about it, he is. 
He's like sometimes a tie collar

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away from destroying the global 
economy. 

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Simply how he chooses to answer 
the questions that are asked. 

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That that and if you want to 
talk to you about that and how 

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good he is at that at some point
today, but also guy shows up in 

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the red tie, global economy is 
finished, Guy shows up in the 

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purple tie. 
Doesn't mean we're great, but it

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doesn't mean we're bad. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like. 
He, he's in on it, right? 

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He has to know that at this 
point. 

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He's he's got to know that 
there's like a ton of money, 

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like I think there's millions on
the line every time he's going 

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to tie up for the next F1. 
So I'll make sure that we have 

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a, a myriad market up for you 
guys because someone asked a 

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whiz yesterday. 
It was on street on an abstract 

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and I was like, yo, bro, where 
you at? 

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Like we need a myriad market for
the color of his fucking tie. 

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I was like, OK, OK, OK, OK, 
we'll try and get one up next 

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time. 
I think it's always skewed 

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towards purple. 
So one day, though, let me tell 

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you, the day he pulls up in the 
orange tie, that's when. 

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That's when ties will shift. 
We we run the table. 

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Yeah, we run the day he does 
that you I mean, I don't know 

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all the stuff you got in your 
house. 

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This is where he's going to go. 
Even the new Tyler D household's

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going to go and you get you get 
the new you got that new that 

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that everything on Bitcoin 
anyways. 

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So we'll look through all of 
this stuff and then we have 

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guests coming on today, special 
guests. 

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Luke Annett's is coming on as 
well as as the founder, right, 

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founder of Entre Neros. 
Is that what I what I got? 

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Yes. 
Skyler, Right. 

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Skyler's coming on. 
What is it? 

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Scarley. 
Scarley, sorry, I saw Skyler, my

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bad. 
Scarley, I read that wrong, my 

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bad. 
But Scarley's coming on. 

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Hell yeah, I found around 
Janeiro, they're cooking over 

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there. 
I love that. 

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Another great Web 3, great Web 3
gaming. 

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I know Web 3 gaming has been a 
big topic conversation this past

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week. 
Again, a lot of people don't get

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on etcetera as usual, but it 
looks like there's some people 

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that are making movies on 
abstract and Scarley and her 

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team are definitely some of 
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So they'll be coming on later. 
Then we have a robot loot box 

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playing as usual. 
So if you want to win a punk, 

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actually I removed the punk, but
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Penguin and I'm adding another 
Penguin because that's still not

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enough. 
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So there's literally going to be
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going to win a pudgy Penguin 
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If you ask me, that's not bad. 
Okay, that's right. 

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That's better odds than than 
than hitting on a, on a, on a 

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pump fund, that's for sure. 
Anyways, this show is powered by

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also wallet connect. 
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connectivity network shaping the
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If you've connected to Web 3 
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that blue logo, it's everywhere 
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recognizable as Visa A check 
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Want to learn more follow wallet
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stay ahead of what's next. 
Tyler, you tell me what's next? 

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Food really NFT and crypto 
analysis. 

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Tyler T on FOMO our calls the 
kids. 

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Can yeah folks, good news crypto
majors and and stocks rallying 

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on the back of yesterday's FOMC 
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which I think interpreted 
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We'll get into that here in a 
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Bitcoin 86 K ETH did give back 
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So we had we had a nice rally 
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It's back under 2K. 
I can't have nice things in the 

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ETH street so I. 
Swear to God, man. 

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Hanging out at 1:31. 
It's actually flipped right on 

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the day as well. 
So this is now a Bitcoin rally. 

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There is a lot of anticipation. 
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President Trump expected to make
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virtually live at the Digital 
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So that may break during the 
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So we're going to have to keep 
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Same time, Trump media 
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crypto spec looking to raise 179
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crypto and blockchain companies.
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yesterday. 
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they start trading today with 
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the way for those spot ETFs to 
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Solana news, Tolley Co founder 
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Yeah, I saw that. 
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punching down and vowed to 
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sure the Solana found good. 
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wars. 
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Yeah, we do. 
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acquisition of Futures Trading 
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That's a big deal, folks. 
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go through. 
It looks like it will BlackRock,

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folks. 
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video. 
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They're good at these tag lines.
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global emerging monetary 
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Ethereum as a technology 
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next generation of financial 
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like a revenue generating App 
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So I thought that was 
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BlackRock spokesman. 
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exchange, they saw a major surge
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The Turkish lira dropped 13% 
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president's rival. 
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use case of crypto right there, 
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currency debasement hedge. 
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news, Uniswap token holders 
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proposals for $165 million, one 
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for activating their fee switch 
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ecosystem. 
Blast their App Store went live 

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for whitelisted wallets. 
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New AirDrop alert for this 
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It's an on chain trading 
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I don't know a whole lot about 
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volume on protocols like Hype, 
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should be eligible. 
So maybe go check that out. 

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Of course, DYOR and then Privy 
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led by Rabbit Capital as they 
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crypto rails. 
That was most of the news kind 

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of rounding, rounding out AI 
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cap did jump about 7% on the 
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FAR Coin LED mindshare with a 
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there after it hit $400 million 
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Nearest Co founder. 
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Ilya Paulo Sukin, he gave a 
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conference. 
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founder to speak at that NVIDIA 
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using the cloud based approaches
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current state issues. 
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B&B is leading the way in meme 
corns, folks. 

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Tut, Broccoli, and Banana were 
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chains. 
Those are all on B&B. 

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All up 40 to 60%. 
PBS was a big one. 

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On Salon, it was up another 50% 
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And then in NFTS, Doodles 
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release a white paper for their 
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Taproot Wizards shared their 
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Details confirmed 17150 Wizards 
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25th, 1:00 PM Eastern. 0.2 
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Mega Mutant deal apparently. 
Saw that? 

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Adam Weitzman acquired 4 Mega 
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What do you think? 
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You're thinking 2 million? 
I don't. 

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Those things are so illiquid and
that's such a huge chunk. 

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It's like the value of those is 
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pay for it. 
It's kind of my read. 

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You got four of them, right? 
Can you believe they were like 2

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mil a pop? 
3 mil 4 mil a pop? 

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What was it? 
I'll have to go. 

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That would be interesting to go 
through the history on. 

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Those, I mean the, the, the 
serums were going for like 2000 

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ETH, right thousand plus ETH. 
Yeah, those were huge. 

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I'll try to pull it up live. 
I could probably find it, but 

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those theorems were going for an
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then, if you recall. 
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Exposed to myself, I don't know 
how to navigate this new open C 

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the same way I used to. 
We need to we need to get used 

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to it. 
I I'm actually starting to I'm 

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actually starting to learn how 
to navigate it properly. 

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I'm like, I'm like getting the 
hang of it. 

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They tagged me. 
Everyone's like fro. 

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No, you can actually switch to 
USC and crypto. 

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I didn't realize it was at the 
bottom right and small. 

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Also, you can switch back from 
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collector over the pro shit. 
I don't like here like right now

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it was in the box, so I'm on it.
So like here, like you have pro 

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that's like I'm not in for like 
a Bloomberg Terminal type open 

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C. 
So I just go to collector and 

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then depending on my bias and 
the price of eats, I switched 

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USD and all and and and E 
depending on my mood. 

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So serum. 
So what it's like mutants. 

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I mean this shouldn't be a 
collection anymore because it's 

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serum are done mega like see 
last say if I go here and I pick

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all of them, we're like boomers 
man. 

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I know, I honestly don't know 
how. 

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I remember the good old days of 
sweeping NFTS on the open sea 

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while hosting tourist bases and 
everybody was like front running

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me and you have to go scroll all
the way down because there was 

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no such thing as Genie. 
Remember Genie remember fucking 

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what's the other one? 
The other one that then was 

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bought. 
I'm not forget anyways, I forget

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the the history on those, but it
was it was some crazy sales back

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then man. 
So last sale here for this one 

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was 500 ETH, but I don't know 
what ETH was at. 

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It was much higher than this for
sure. 

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See 500 ETH from Asherah and 
it's sold when ETH was Let me 

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tell you right now more detail 
here. 

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Transaction fee duh, duh, duh. 
Machi 500 ETH, it was a that's 

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current price I guess yeah. 
It's my. 

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Maybe it was 2K. 
Honestly, it has been 2K for as 

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long as I remember that. 
No, it was 1628 ether price 

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here. 
Yeah, so I don't know, I forget.

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Like the chat. 
Do you guys know how much is 

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mega mutants glorified? 
I feel like I used to post about

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them all the time. 
Like for rogue mega mutant, I 

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used to post all the mega mutant
I used to like dude, I used to 

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do this before stats before 
Tyler did it for all these guys 

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came in. 
I used to post price action. 

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I'm kidding. 
The mega mutants were splashy. 

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I'm looking for it, man. 
Like I'm I, I can't figure it 

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out. 
I can just remember, oh wow, 

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that wow, that's one of my best 
works. 

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Remember this tweet? 
Dude, that was crazy. 

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Then my converse, the Dyson 
tweet that that was that was 

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dirty work. 
I can't find it. 

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Honestly. 
I'm looking through some old 

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tweets. 
Yeah, I really can't find it. 

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I just remember it was at least 
1420, you know, It was like some

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of those meme numbers, you know?
They were big. 

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Yeah. 
I would have thought I would 

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have thought at least one of 
them went for 3,000,000 bucks, 

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but maybe. 
But. 

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Definitely at least a million. 
I don't think you're 

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misremembering here, like I 
genuinely think. 

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Let me see if people are like 
tagging me with answers here. 

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I genuinely think that that's 
how much they were they were 

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going for. 
But anyways, point being your 

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estimated $2,000,000 sale that 
could add up. 

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I mean Adam, Adam loves Yuga 
Labs and born APR club. 

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He just bought a he actually 
just bought he just bought a top

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hat punk. 
He picked one up for for the 

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low. 
Actually that was a good deal. 

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He's the one who picked up my 
one O 1 Vidalgo OTC not too long

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ago for about $10,000 and he 
just likes to support. 

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Man, that guy's awesome. 
He's like this like super rich 

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guy in LA or Miami and or 
precious, bicoastal and 

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successful man, very successful 
man. 

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And and he just he just really 
has a lot of belief in in 

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utilizing what board APR club is
building. 

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What do you think? 
Do you think that age is? 

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Well, let's say it was 2 
million. 

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Let's say it's like 2 to 3 
million. 

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I think that Board API Club will
stand the test of time. 

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I think it's a top 10 digital 
collectible. 

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I don't see a path to those 
specific mega mutant entities 

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selling for hire. 
But it only it would take long 

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like it only takes. 
A handful of collectors. 

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I mean, it only takes one, 
right? 

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I mean, we're seeing that with 
the. 

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Correct. 
In the art space right now. 

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Yeah. 
With with canvas and and others.

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It only takes 1, so you're 
absolutely right. 

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So I'm looking for the last 
sales. 

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Yeah, I can't find them. 
Yeah. 

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Four years ago it was 200 E, 335
E, 350 E, 250 E and 500 E 

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There's the last five sales four
years ago when they last sell 

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last. 
Some of those last sold. 

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I just can't find the serum page
anymore because I'm pretty sure 

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since you can't consume the 
serum anymore, they they might 

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be delisted or something, you 
know what I mean? 

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Yeah. 
So anyways, I definitely 

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remember that these serums were 
going for 1000 E plus, so 

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curious to see how how that 
goes. 

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But good luck to to to to Adam 
Weitzman and then 

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congratulations here on that. 
Did did that move the floor 

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price for any of the serums or 
sorry the apes or anything at 

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all you think? 
No, it was a chopped day for 

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Ethan of Tees. 
Yeah, it's still, it's still 

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choppy out there, but you know 
what they're holding good 

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though. 
Like I was looking yesterday for

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fun. 
You know, you're still looking 

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at $25,000 for an ape. 
It's like 20 K ish for for a 

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Penguin. 
Like it's a collection of 10,000

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NFTS in a market where Theorem 
is like not doing great. 

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Punks are still selling nearly 
$100,000. 

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So if you think about the 
collectibles market, you know 

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what I remember was talking 
about the NBA cards or whatever 

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yesterday, like Pokémon cards, 
etcetera. 

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Like it's, I don't know there, I
don't know if there's a chart 

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that like overlays like Ethereum
NFTS versus like Pokémon and 

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other collectibles, but be 
curious to see that versus NBA 

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cards watches. 
I'm actually curious about that.

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You know what I mean? 
Yeah, I'm going to see if I can 

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pull that out. 
But I mean, that's more than 

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like the entry level Rolex, 
right, 25,000? 

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Way more. 
I mean, you entry level Rolex, 

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you're talking 5 GS secondary, 
right? 

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Secondary market you're talking.
But even primary market, let's 

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say you're lucky and your AD 
gets you like a submariner, no 

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date or like a date just like 
you're looking at like 8, 

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something like that. 
I'd say 8 or 9. 

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I don't know, inflation, prices,
I don't know anymore. 

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But like you're like, it's more 
than half of an 8 for an entry 

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level Rolex here. 
So you know, and there's way 

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more 10,000 of those. 
So, so I think, I don't know, I 

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think it's impressive to, to see
those things hold up. 

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And I remember, man, yeah, those
series went for LGS. 

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Do I remember like we used to 
host Twitter Spaces for people 

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to like consume those serums and
like, remember I had like apres,

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like the gold one that that that
that once that revealed 

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everything was to be like these 
total events. 

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So anyways, that's some good 
momentum on the NFT front, 

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Tyler. 
But we got some other big news 

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to talk about today. 
So what else you got for us? 

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Yeah. 
And we can talk a little bit 

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about FOMC. 
So Powell came out, it was 

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pretty interesting presser 
yesterday. 

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So I, I did listen to it. 
I tuned in. 

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We were rallying into FOMC. 
They held rates the same. 

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I think that that was widely 
expected. 

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That was 9% chance outcome. 
But ultimately markets did surge

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after and it looks like it's 
continuing here into this 

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morning for the most part. 
I think a couple of the 

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highlights that stood out to me,
he he did talk about tariffs 

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quite a bit. 
That's most of the questions 

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were about tariffs. 
He said that could introduce 

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some short term volatility. 
He expects it to be temporary 

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transitory. 
He also said, I think one of the

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more important things he said is
that the Fed is pricing in full 

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100% retaliatory tariffs in 
their projections. 

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So my interpretation of that is 
if there are any scenarios here 

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where tariffs kind of get backed
off, if they're not as extreme 

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as we think that they are going 
to be right now, that will be 

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that will give them room to to 
ease because they're already 

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projecting effectively the 
worst. 

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Because of that, they're 
lowering the projection of U.S. 

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economy growth forecast down 
from 2.1% to 1.7%. 

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He did a little that the odds of
a recession are higher than they

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previously were, but he said 
still very unlikely. 

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So my interpretation of 
listening to him live talk 

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through that is he does not 
think a recession is coming, but

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he did acknowledge that it it 
does have a higher chance of 

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happening than it did a few 
months back, which I think is 

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really in line what most people 
think, but was also kind of 

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reassuring to hear. 
And then the other piece was 

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they are slowing the pace of 
offloading their securities in 

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April, so slowing. 
Nice. 

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The QT, So those were the 
highlights and it seems like 

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markets generally liked it, but 
now kind of seems like we're 

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all, we're all in a holding 
pattern here. 

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I mean, it's kind of rallying 
now since we started talking. 

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So just keep going. 
Just keep talking. 

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Keep talking. 
Yeah, Bitcoin's up back to 865, 

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but now this, This could be 
people buying anticipation of 

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whatever the hell this 
announcement's going to be in 

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15. 
Minutes, I would be careful 

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here, but yes, I wouldn't long 
like at 86, but if you were long

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since 82, you also don't have to
like cut it right away. 

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You know what I mean? 
If there's like a lot of people.

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To go 100 X longer shortness 
right now. 

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Well, that's the problem is 
people long like now when like 

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literally 24 hours ago was 80, 
you know what I mean? 

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So I hear about a bunch of 
Solana yesterday morning before 

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the show, like 128, six, 
whatever. 

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Obviously I missed the bottom 
1:25-ish, but like not selling 

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it here. 
But I'm also not like I was 

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telling you yesterday I was 
like, I'm also going to sell it 

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as fast as I bought it if I 
don't feel like it, you know 

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what I mean? 
Like if the vibes are off like 

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this, Solana is leaving my 
wallet the second you know what 

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I mean? 
The only position I've actually 

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helped with this downturn is all
the Sonic I I added on spot and,

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and I'm just holding because 
there's passive points and 

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there's a promise of something 
and they're building a bunch of 

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stuff. 
But the rest like I've just been

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in and out of coins. 
But this is looking good. 

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Like honestly, Tyler said we 
have a new range here, right? 

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It's really like the new range 
is a bit lower than before, but 

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it's between that 76 ish to that
like 9091 K range, right? 

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And we're just chopping between 
that. 

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So let's see if we break out of 
it. 

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But I don't know, let's see, you
know, I like to be a bull. 

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You know, I don't like to be a 
bear. 

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Arthur Hayes. 
I know we because sometimes you 

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give him a little shit for some 
of the calls, but he has called 

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the last pico top pretty well. 
He's actually liking what he's 

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seeing right now. 
You know, he was very adamantive

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calling 73 K and he got a 75K so
he got pretty close. 

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He says J pal delivered QT 
basically over April first and a

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lot of my friends were like 
tried 5. 

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We're talking about this QT and 
QE, right? 

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The next thing we need to get 
pulled up for wheels is either 

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SLR exemption or restart of QE. 
Was Bitcoin 77 K the bottom? 

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Probably, but songs probably 
have more pain left a pain left 

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to fully convert Jay to team 
Trump to stay. 

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So stay nimble and cashed up. 
So I like this right, Stay 

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nimble and cashed up. 
Feel like that's kind of where 

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we're at. 
I'm struggling a little bit 

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because I still feel like the 
the rhetoric from Bessent is 

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that this is going to be a multi
month correction, like we're in 

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for more pay, but. 
Stopped right? 

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Europe's haven't even started. 
But on the flip side, everything

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I, I feel like a lot of that 
might already be priced in like 

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we sold off so hard so fast and 
now like there are a, there are 

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a lot of big bulls out there 
like Kobe just bought a huge E 

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position as I understand, as we 
think again. 

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I just think confirmed or a 
girlfriend. 

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He didn't confirm that either. 
But he's not the only one, 

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right? 
There's a lot of other folks who

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have been starting to make more 
public long calls. 

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Yeah, and he's also a. 
Little bold up. 

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So like Mando's telling us not 
to check prices till July, I'm 

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still going to get bold up on 
all the pumps. 

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Is that why he's not showing up 
anymore? 

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Everybody tag Mando and shame 
him at Reck Mando. 

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I want, I want to see tags on 
the Twitter Spaces at the 

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bottom. 
I want everybody to tag Reck 

448
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,400
Mando. 
Just tag pull up, motherfucker. 

449
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,720
Anyways, another good sign for 
BTC that again, that's another 

450
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,720
Arthur Hayes post. 
My custom U.S. bank credit 

451
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,680
supply index is trending higher.
Doesn't mean we are done 

452
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,320
dumping, but the other shifting 
more bullish. 

453
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800
So I think like not that I 
understand this. 

454
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,240
I'm not going to actually 
understand what you just said, 

455
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,760
but balls tingling, you know, 
like that that that that 

456
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320
tingling spring feeling. 
I've been saying spring is nice.

457
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,200
Spring is renewal. 
So overall, Tyler, you know, 

458
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,680
it's like we're seeing somewhat 
of a better sentiment. 

459
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,400
Cautiously optimistic. 
Cautiously optimistic. 

460
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,680
Where's our fear and greed? 
Where's our favorite index side?

461
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840
Let's see. 
Like we're never going to get 10

462
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,400
again. 
That's what I'm trying to say. 

463
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,800
It's a fear and greed. 
And by never I don't mean like 

464
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,240
over 10 years. 
I mean the next year like in 

465
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,200
2025, right? 
That's a fifty. 

466
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,040
Wow. 
Nice. 

467
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,840
But see dude, like that's fine. 
That's what I'm saying. 

468
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280
Like people are neutral, 
cautiously optimistic is nearly 

469
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,720
49. 
That's accurate, right? 

470
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,680
Feels right. 
Feels right, feels right. 

471
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,320
Feels like what you and I 
taught, like the way I'm feeling

472
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,120
and the way you're feeling right
now. 

473
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,360
From what I'm picking up on like
49 feels accurate I don't think.

474
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,240
People are buying. 
I don't like other than like, I 

475
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240
mean, I guess I just said some 
people clearly are like like 

476
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,200
Kobe, like R3 is starting to get
bullish, but. 

477
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Apparently at Das Fucking all 
the institutions are buying, 

478
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,720
yeah. 
Yeah, they are. 

479
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,440
Yeah, someone said. 
Wait, what was 31 last time I 

480
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,080
checked? 
I mean, yeah brother, yesterday 

481
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,640
was 32. 
OK. 

482
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,000
So that is a huge job like that.
That's kind of hard to justify. 

483
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,400
But if you do the average of the
week, it's in the 40s though, 

484
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,720
because look at that 4547 last 
month, 45, last week, 42. 

485
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,520
So that 32 though, like that ten
that one day on the Friday when 

486
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,800
we came on the show and was at 
10, that was like that was 

487
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:51,080
probably your Pico Shimiko rock 
hard solid bottom signal. 

488
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,600
You know what I mean? 
Like how much you know, if 

489
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,720
everyone's coming for 7073 K and
you're at 75 Ki mean, how much 

490
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,520
more greedy can you get? 
You know, like greed goes both 

491
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,480
ways, right? 
Everyone the most bearish at the

492
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,560
bottom. 
And everybody buys Bitcoin at 

493
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,960
the price that deserve it or, or
or the other coin. 

494
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,680
If you want to talk about that 
one, Tyler. 

495
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,800
But our, our, our praise here 
is, you know, if you quit really

496
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,160
hard, you can see the praise 
holders lining up at the Golden 

497
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,200
Gate Bridge. 
Yeah, I don't know if it's still

498
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:28,720
trading as Bitcoin beta or. 
Not, I think the meme's just 

499
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,320
losing some steam, but it's that
famous like $50 million line 

500
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,080
again on meme coins, right? 
It's it never fails. 

501
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,040
You either break it and then you
go straight to like 1150 or you 

502
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,560
just, it's like a mental thing. 
Anyways, Tyler, what else? 

503
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,360
Oh, there's a oh, wait, we have 
breaking news here. 

504
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,280
There's a rumor on the Trump 
stuff right now. 

505
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,200
Is there a rumor? 
I was looking for rumors. 38 

506
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,080
seconds ago Intel now obviously 
thread lightly here. 

507
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,240
The major update is rumored to 
be that Trump will announce A0 

508
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,040
tax on crypto Cataporto gains at
the summit today. 

509
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,760
So that would that is the that. 
Would be big. 

510
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000
That's the caliber of 
announcement I was expecting, 

511
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:13,040
but. 
I'm going to feel. 

512
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Like the market, I feel like 
Bitcoin should be higher. 

513
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,440
Like like, well, hold on. 30 
seconds ago this post just came 

514
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,040
out. 
I just caught it. 

515
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,640
I mean it saw it until. 
Yeah, just just put it, put the 

516
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040
one second chart and see if it 
reacts if you want. 

517
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,720
There you go. 
Oh. 

518
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320
No slowing it. 
Yeah, I. 

519
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560
Don't know here. 
Let's leave the one second chart

520
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,520
on on here while Trump speaks if
you want, I guess. 

521
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,440
The reason maybe it's not moving
more is that this a key. 

522
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,400
This would still have to pass 
through Congress. 

523
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,240
Of course. 
So like, it's a headline. 

524
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,560
It would be something that would
likely be, you know. 369 months 

525
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720
I wouldn't get bulled up without
being sure. 

526
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,400
That's a big one. 
If that comes through, I think 

527
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,880
it becomes big. 
It makes Bitcoin a very, very 

528
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,240
investable asset. 
Brother And it makes America be 

529
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,760
more interesting for outside 
investors and then it makes the 

530
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,160
rat the race to to like, I don't
know, just this race to acquire 

531
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:16,320
more Bitcoin gets pretty gets 
gets pretty pretty wild Anyways,

532
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Wow, I'm curious, when are you 
speaking? 

533
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840
And supposed to be in 7 minutes.
OK cool. 

534
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,400
So we'll, we'll, we'll monitor 
live as well as we get Luca and 

535
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,920
and Skyler on the show. 
What else do you got for us, 

536
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,880
Tyler? 
The other Trump news from 

537
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,600
yesterday, Trump media execs. 
So this is not exactly I don't 

538
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,080
know the the inner workings of 
the Trump media team. 

539
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240
The names that I saw in this 
announcement are not Trump 

540
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040
family members. 
So this is a little bit 

541
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,720
disparate, but still, you know, 
portfolio of companies, they are

542
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,200
reportedly launching a crypto 
spec 179 million they're looking

543
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,880
to raise to invest in American 
crypto and blockchain companies.

544
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,680
I didn't have a chance to go 
super deep into into this one, 

545
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,680
but that's the headline. 
I think it's already kind of 

546
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,760
coming out some mixed reactions 
or perhaps more negative 

547
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,400
reactions. 
Just getting a little bit. 

548
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,120
I shared this on expose. 
It feels like maybe like the 

549
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,920
Trump family getting too deep 
into personal crypto 

550
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,960
investments. 
It is like kind of muddying the 

551
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,840
waters here. 
I think we're all, I think most 

552
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,720
of us. 
I don't want to speak for 

553
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,680
everyone. 
I think most of crypto Twitter 

554
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,720
is objectively pretty happy with
the crypto policies put forth by

555
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,440
the American government the last
few months. 

556
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520
You know, they're thoughtful, 
reasonable, reasonable, logical.

557
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,240
But it gets a little messier 
when like personal investments 

558
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,840
are mixed in with all this, 
right? 

559
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Like we applauded David Sachs 
for divesting all of his crypto 

560
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,960
as. 
The right. 

561
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,000
But then the Trump sons are 
leading World Liberty 5. 

562
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,000
Now the Trump media is is 
launching a crypto spec, so it 

563
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,680
just makes the situation a 
little messier. 

564
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,880
Yeah, we'll we'll see what that 
takes. 

565
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400
So it's different team, right? 
Trump media, it's a whole other.

566
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,760
It's a Trump media. 
Is that the arm that owns the 

567
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120
true social? 
Is that tight? 

568
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,400
True social and Trump media. 
Don't know the answer to that, 

569
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,280
so I've got a little bit more 
details. 

570
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,400
So they're calling it Renanis 
Tactical Acquisition Corp and 

571
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,760
talk about what they're buying. 
It's going to be incorporated in

572
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,880
the Cayman Islands plan to 
complete acquisition through IPO

573
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,800
and private placement. 
It's a beautiful day in the 

574
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,520
Cayman Islands. 
Alexander Cano are are the CEO, 

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Chair and COO. 
All right. 

576
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160
Yeah, we'll, we'll see. 
How, what did that, did that 

577
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,960
impact their stock? 
Because I know they've got their

578
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,040
stock too right? 
On the I wonder. 

579
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,000
It was down a little bit today, 
.97%, not much. 

580
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Down a percent, yeah, It's like 
it spiked up and then. 

581
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Yeah, yeah. 
All right. 

582
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,880
Volatile. 
It is volatile. 

583
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,280
I mean, the whole market is even
Bitcoin right now is like the 

584
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Wicks are crazy. 
So let's see, I'm really curious

585
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,840
about this this talk. 
I mean, look at the end of the 

586
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,320
day, like you, you do have you 
do have a present talk on a 

587
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,720
crypto conference, right. 
So we'll it's a big deal. 

588
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,120
Now, of course, you can't 
really, you know, make the call 

589
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,600
on this tax stuff without 
Congress. 

590
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,560
But at the end of the day, we'll
see what that what what happens 

591
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,760
in that front. 
All right, Tyler. 

592
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,520
The rationale behind it, because
it's an interesting headline, it

593
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000
was one that was a little harder
for me to to like come up with a

594
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
justification. 
So I'm curious if we'll get that

595
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,640
first. 
I'm curious if this is the 

596
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320
announcement and how they'll 
justify it. 

597
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600
So yeah, we we may very well 
find out here and. 

598
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Just I hate when the 
announcement or like a something

599
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,120
of it leaks before it's like 
you'll let the guy fucking make 

600
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,200
it the announcement, you know? 
Yeah, because the people run 

601
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,800
wild with it without all the 
details. 

602
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,920
Yeah, like it's already 
happening, right? 

603
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,880
But it's just like, you know, 
just tell us. 

604
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Anyway, today's code Raffle bot 
dot XYZ Raffle bot dot XYZ. 

605
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,280
Now let me fuck around. 
I have a punk. 

606
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,200
I have. 
I have a Penguin for 10% and one

607
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,520
for six. 
I'm going to remove it. 

608
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,600
I'm going to make one Penguin 
for 15%. 

609
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Wow, it worked. 
Can I make it 16? 

610
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Let's get greedy. 
Oh, there's now a 16% chance to 

611
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,560
win a Top Hat Penguin 16 Tyler. 
I don't. 

612
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,840
I've never had. 
I've never made odds that high. 

613
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,640
1/6. 
One 616% chances that one of you

614
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,600
listeners today is going to win 
a pudgy Penguin it it. 

615
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,840
That's a lot that I've never 
had. 

616
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,160
So I'm excited already for the 
thing. 

617
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,880
So we have a couple of minutes 
before before I guess join us, 

618
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,520
Tyler. 
So what's Blast stuff? 

619
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,120
I'm curious because you know, 
Blast is still building. 

620
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,160
I mean, I know they've caught a 
lot of slack here and there, but

621
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760
hey, like that's the team that's
building in the mobile scene. 

622
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,120
And we know that crypto needs to
go mobile more and more because 

623
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,440
that's the one thing that we're 
missing the most. 

624
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,640
So what was the news that I'm 
curious? 

625
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Yeah, it looks like they're 
launching an App Store. 

626
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Well. 
That's what they're calling it. 

627
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,120
So like basically, I think they 
got a little bit of criticism 

628
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,120
right when they launched their 
app, they had like the four 

629
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,400
buttons. 
Now there's more buttons and 

630
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,560
like they're leaning into it. 
They said that more buttons are 

631
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760
coming. 
So right now only select wallets

632
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,880
are able to engage with this App
Store. 

633
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000
But effectively, like you're in 
the, you've got your blast app 

634
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,920
up. 
You can set your apps that you 

635
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,800
want to use kind of on your 
homepage and launch them from 

636
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,280
there, which is a nice UI, 
right? 

637
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,600
And one of the things I've 
praised Abstract for is their 

638
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,920
very clean UI. 
And I think Blast doing their 

639
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,800
own thing in their own way here.
I was very surprised that 

640
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Fantasy Top was not in their 
initial screenshot. 

641
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Wait, this is true? 
Yeah. 

642
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Maybe it's because they got this
one of that thing going on By 

643
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,480
the way, I'm I'm so sorry y'all 
like keep rugging the space like

644
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,040
I didn't say the code. 
The code is G myriad. 

645
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,600
So I I said that we have 16% 
chance to win a Penguin. 

646
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:31,040
I didn't give you guys the code 
G myriad GMYRIADGMYRIADG Myriad 

647
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560
is the code to the raffle bought
dot XYZ. 

648
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,320
There's 16% chance that that 
you're going to win a ping. 

649
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
What up Mando? 
Hello, how are you are? 

650
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,040
We bullish. 
Honestly, I haven't really had 

651
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,760
the time to look at stuff. 
I know you're busy. 

652
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Seems. 
Like. 86 K Wow, yeah. 

653
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Yeah, we're not bad. 
We're not bad. 

654
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,080
We're not bad. 
We're looking. 

655
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,760
We're looking OK. 
What did you think yesterday of 

656
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,040
of Powell? 
Did you have time to listen to 

657
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,480
him? 
I did. 

658
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,120
I thought it was quite hawkish. 
If I'm on this, I was surprised.

659
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,199
Like he said, look, we think 
inflation's going back up, we 

660
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,920
don't need to cut rates quicker.
Like he was objectively more 

661
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,360
hawkish than I think markets 
were hoping, right? 

662
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,679
But we had a rally, so all good.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see. 

663
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:33,880
Trump is set to speak now. 
So, so he's, he's going to, he's

664
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,639
going to get on stage at Das 
and. 

665
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,320
What do we think that is? 
Well, there's a rumor that just 

666
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,840
came out from Intel Classic, 
like, yeah, saying that it's 

667
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,800
about to for the 0% tax on on 
Bitcoin. 

668
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,719
But again, even that, even if he
were to talk about that, it has 

669
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,360
to go through Congress. 
So that's all we know. 

670
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,639
That was fresh off the press 
like 5 minutes ago. 

671
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,280
Yeah, that's good to Congress. 
Maybe they do that, maybe they 

672
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,840
do that or maybe they do tax 
some sort of tax benefits to to 

673
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,280
crypto, US crypto companies. 
Something like that. 

674
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,960
Yeah, Major. 
It was just the rumor to be that

675
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,800
Trump will announce 0 tax on 
crypto capital gains. 

676
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,440
But again, we really have to. 
I love how all this originally 

677
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,560
remember base carbon made a fake
tweet that went viral like 

678
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,520
millions and millions of views 
and all the media started 

679
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,000
picking up on the 0 tax on 
crypto. 

680
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,400
But that was before Trump was 
president and then the whole 

681
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160
thing was so funny. 
So anyway, so let's see that 

682
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400
yeah Speaking of the blasting 
Tyler, some people seem unhappy 

683
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,000
here like shafted them and blast
would be a ghost shame without 

684
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,640
any. 
So I don't know I haven't 

685
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,240
followed much but but I do see 
funny stuff. 

686
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,240
Technically should have been on 
there. 

687
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,560
I don't know let me get Luca up 
on the stage. 

688
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:47,520
I see Skyler and scarly. 
I'm so sorry fuck, I'm so sorry.

689
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640
I genuinely apologize. 
Scarly Scarly. 

690
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,320
I like that it's fucking chat 
name. 

691
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,480
I love it. 
Scarly gets scarly. 

692
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,920
I see scarly in the studio, but 
I don't see her camera on. 

693
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Is Scarly on or off camera? 
I just want to make sure. 

694
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Is Carly on? 
Do I see Scarly? 

695
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,240
I see Scar. 
What up, Luca? 

696
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,760
Hey, how you doing? 
You good? 

697
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,800
Yeah, I'm doing good. 
How are you doing? 

698
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Good, good. 
How are you feeling, man? 

699
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,480
How you feel about the market 
and everything right now? 

700
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,600
I'm feeling, I'm feeling pretty 
good. 

701
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,560
How are you feeling? 
I'm feeling great. 

702
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,040
I'm always feeling great. 
I mean, we're building, right? 

703
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,000
It's a builders market. 
So we're always we're always 

704
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,920
vibe it and things are popping 
up on Marriott. 

705
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Things seem to be popping off on
abstract. 

706
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,400
So, you know, I'm liking, I'm 
liking how everything is running

707
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,520
through that, you know, how is 
that? 

708
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:44,360
How are the USDC bets going? 
They're going great right now 

709
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,640
we're what we crossed 600,000 
plus in volume and that's still 

710
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,240
with like really little amount 
of markets up a little bit less 

711
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:52,920
than I wish we had. 
But we're gonna we're gonna push

712
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,720
this a little harder in the 
coming in the coming days and 

713
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,640
weeks. 
And then we are about to hit 

714
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,160
10,000 USDC traders. 
So that's the metric that I like

715
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680
a lot more than the volume 
because the volume is whatever 

716
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,960
it's good. 
But we're at 9400 traders and 

717
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,320
signups overall, we must have 
crossed half a million. 

718
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,560
So we're definitely, we're 
definitely seeing some stuff and

719
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,520
we've made about $77 in fees. 
So very happy about that. 

720
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,560
Hey, man, I love that. 
And I was talking to somebody 

721
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,960
about you guys I think a couple 
days ago. 

722
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680
I think there's like a huge 
opportunity to like really 

723
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,600
control like the crypto Twitter 
prediction market because like 

724
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,360
because I think like a lot of 
your guys's markets are like 

725
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,880
culturally relevant. 
And I think a lot of these 

726
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,440
markets don't have like a finger
on the pulse in terms of 

727
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,480
culture. 
So triple down there. 

728
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,160
I think that's that's one of 
your guys's big edge cases 

729
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,440
amongst a couple others. 
But one, I like that when he 

730
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,840
said that. 100% I I totally 
agree with that. 

731
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,480
What up, Scarley? 
I see you on spaces. 

732
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,000
You want me to bring you up on 
the video? 

733
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Can you hear me? 
No, Carly, what up? 

734
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,760
Can you hear me? 
Yeah, I can hear you guys. 

735
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,240
Can you hear me? 
There you are. 

736
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,600
What's up Scarly? 
How you doing? 

737
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:08,360
Oh, good. 
Thanks. 

738
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,240
Thanks for having me on. 
Dick, thank you for coming. 

739
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,600
Listen, I don't know what you up
to over there, but I know half 

740
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,320
my friends angeled in your shit 
and the other half for playing 

741
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,920
on training heroes. 
Yeah, you know, I saw Barad and 

742
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,600
see phrase and all those folks 
are in. 

743
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,760
And then on the other side, you 
know, Sam's our producer and VP 

744
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,320
media and and Tyler just can't 
stop talking about you and the 

745
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,160
and the formal hour group chat. 
So you're obviously up to 

746
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200
something really good here with 
on chain heroes. 

747
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120
So congratulations first and 
foremost. 

748
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,880
Second of ours, Carly, why don't
we let you introduce yourself 

749
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,400
and tell us what you're building
for the people that may not be 

750
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,920
familiar with on Chain Heroes. 
Absolutely. 

751
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,240
So I'm standing the founder of 
on Chain Heroes, which is a 

752
00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:01,680
fully on chain RPG on abstract. 
So the TLDR is that we stripped 

753
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,520
away. 
We're trying to build a fully on

754
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,400
chain RPG, but stripping away 
everything that is grindy, that 

755
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,040
is, you know, time consuming and
really optimizing for a niche of

756
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,840
people with that enjoy these 
high risk, high reward type 

757
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,280
games that, you know, often do 
not have a lot of time to to 

758
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,840
enjoy these. 
And we're also acutely aware 

759
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,560
that the average D Gen. doesn't 
doesn't like too much reading or

760
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,040
too much, you know, whatever, 
right. 

761
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,240
So we're we're really going for 
like a simple stripping away 

762
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,760
everything else, just leaving 
the essential elements of an 

763
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,080
RPG. 
And yeah, we partnered with 

764
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,440
Abstract to launch and, you 
know, we got really lucky. 

765
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,040
We found a lot of success. 
And yeah, that's the TLDR. 

766
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
I love that. 
How's your experience been with 

767
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,040
Abstract so far? 
Because you know, the people 

768
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,800
love to hate on the stuff that's
working. 

769
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,880
My personal experience, our 
personal experience over Myriad 

770
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,280
is that we love it. 
But you got Luca on stage, so I 

771
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,240
want you to tell us what's your 
experience been so far, Bill and

772
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,200
Abstract. 
I see, I see there's a lot of 

773
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,760
stuff going on there on the 
gaming side. 

774
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,320
Yes, Sir. 
Our experience has been amazing.

775
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
So I joined Abstract's builder 
and residence program. 

776
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,760
And what that means is we get a 
lot of support, we get Technical

777
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,400
Support and marketing support. 
One of the big reasons that we 

778
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,960
chose Abstract was we were, you 
know, aware that we like our 

779
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,240
weak point was distribution and 
we knew that Luca and Abstract 

780
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,040
they would be, you know, you 
know, there were the kings at 

781
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,920
this rate. 
So we knew that we could build a

782
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,720
good game. 
We just needed to get it out 

783
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:45,880
into the hands of people. 
So overall, like a really great 

784
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480
experience. 
It's great to hear. 

785
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,120
I'm curious, so you had a lot of
success mentioned that I I 

786
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,960
covered it fairly extensively. 
What went right? 

787
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,240
Like reflecting on the last 
couple months? 

788
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,360
Absolutely. 
So I think the biggest thing is 

789
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,640
that so my background is in 
Wolfgame. 

790
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,360
So I was really dead at Wolfgame
for like 2 1/2 years, which was 

791
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,040
like a big 2021. 
Yeah, huge. 

792
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Which was big at the time, You 
know, they're still cooking 

793
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,920
stuff. 
But the TLDR is that I've been 

794
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,080
with the community like I'm, I'm
literally just building a game 

795
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,720
that I would want to play. 
And it really resonated with our

796
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:33,760
little niche of crypto Twitter, 
right? 

797
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,000
So in day one, we had massive 
support from people that have 

798
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,440
known me for the last three 
years. 

799
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,760
You know, I'm, I'm not a 
tourist. 

800
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,160
I've been in the trenches. 
I've been losing money on the 

801
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,120
same things as these guys. 
So that I think played a really 

802
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,880
big part of our success. 
Nice, you love to hear that. 

803
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,840
I'm I'm curious. 
I was chatting with Sims, He 

804
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,720
said that you were a Warcraft 
fan. 

805
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:02,320
I'm curious if you had drew any 
inspiration from Warcraft or any

806
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,440
other areas. 
Absolutely. 

807
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,480
So, yeah. 
Yeah. 

808
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,280
So, you know, I was a big, well,
player. 

809
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,400
I unfortunately don't have time 
to play these days. 

810
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Just because of course, just 
because of work, right? 

811
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,240
I hope you don't have time to 
play these days. 

812
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,400
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
Probably what my folders want to

813
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,760
hear. 
But yeah, we're we're joining 

814
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,640
like to to me, right RPGs and 
like idle games are large, 

815
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,800
largely a solved problem. 
I don't think that we need to 

816
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,960
try and reinvent the wheel too 
much, but rather like things in 

817
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,000
the context of crypto where they
make sense, for example, like 

818
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,480
we're dealing with the real 
value. 

819
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,520
So everything needs to be on 
chain and needs to be trustless 

820
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,400
and needs to be verifiable, like
intraoperability, you know, not 

821
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,760
something that we're super 
focused on, but rather the 

822
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,160
entire ownership and really 
leaning into the speculative 

823
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,680
nature of crypto. 
So basically the TLDR is that we

824
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,720
take a lot of inspiration and 
concepts from proven successful 

825
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,040
models and just apply them in 
the context of crypto. 

826
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,080
And I think that's why we were 
able to find some success. 

827
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,040
Yeah, clearly the the market has
responded. 

828
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,800
I'm curious, we've talked about 
your success. 

829
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,840
Any lessons learned from the 
last month from Season 1 that 

830
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,640
you're thinking about applying 
to Season 2 in the future? 

831
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,640
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
So I think I think out of 

832
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,240
learnings, the, the biggest 
learning that I, that I had that

833
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:41,800
was that people really, really 
want to have like when, when we 

834
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,600
think about idle RPGSA lot of 
people think about just like, 

835
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,680
like wolf game, you know, for 
example, V1 where was just 

836
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,840
staking or unstaking. 
That was the only decisions that

837
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,440
you had. 
But our, our game is built on 

838
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,840
top of that and we have like 
various trainers that you can 

839
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,040
train with that affect your 
outcome in a meaningful manner. 

840
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,800
People really love this. 
So it's a combination of 

841
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,560
decision making, risk and RNG. 
So we're going to lean heavily 

842
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,360
into this and continue giving 
players a way to like 

843
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,640
meaningfully affect their 
progress in the game. 

844
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,360
So not just, you know, staking 
on staking like typical like 

845
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,960
quote UN quote Ponzi games, but 
have more depth, have more 

846
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,760
decision making and have more 
interesting on chain game 

847
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,800
mechanics. 
Yeah, I think that makes a ton 

848
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,920
of sense. 
And I think one of the things, I

849
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,720
don't know, it should have 
surprised me, but it did 

850
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,960
basically like every group chat 
I was that I'm in had people 

851
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,560
playing on chain heroes. 
And this is kind of across a lot

852
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,920
of different cohorts of people, 
builders, folks who are deep in 

853
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,920
the meme coin trenches just like
a NFT traders, like a huge 

854
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
variety of people were were 
playing this one. 

855
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,360
I am curious. 
I'm sure folks are listening 

856
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,280
right now. 
What's coming next? 

857
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,320
Is there anything you can share 
about like what the the future 

858
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,720
looks like? 
It feels like we're kind of in 

859
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
kind of a holding period right 
now, kind of waiting for the 

860
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,400
some of the next news to come 
out. 

861
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:14,440
Absolutely, Yeah. 
So right now we're in an 

862
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,680
offseason, but we have some 
really interesting activations 

863
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,160
coming up. 
Like we know we mentioned World 

864
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,400
of Warcraft in the beginning, 
right? 

865
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:26,280
So the the more of launching 
heroes right now is that, you 

866
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,400
know, our world is going to be 
under attack by a world Boston 

867
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,360
and all of the heroes. 
We need to come together and 

868
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,760
fight this right now. 
The game like started off very 

869
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,760
PDE in the sense that rewards 
were just distributed from the 

870
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,640
game protocol. 
I'm super aware that this is 

871
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,760
not, you know, sustainable 
forever. 

872
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,040
So we're transitioning into a 
faction based PvP type game 

873
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,520
where you know, you guys are 
going to have to where players 

874
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,680
are going to have to fight 
against each other in like a 

875
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,760
bloodthirsty on chain warfare 
game. 

876
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Season 1 was just the 
introduction of, you know, it 

877
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,120
was just just to launch, right? 
Just to launch, get our tokens 

878
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,000
out there and make a big splash,
which we've successfully done. 

879
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,600
And now we've have the 
foundation to build out the next

880
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,280
phase of the game, which is 
coming soon. 

881
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Well, I'm sure a lot of folks 
are excited for that. 

882
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,920
I've been very impressed with 
how the tokens have been holding

883
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,000
up on the secondary markets 
during this kind of low. 

884
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,320
Period. 
Quickly folks need to to move on

885
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,760
and opportunity cost. 
So clearly a lot of folks are 

886
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,400
are ready and willingly waiting 
for Season 2. 

887
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,200
Well, Congrats on a lot of 
success for Season 1 We're going

888
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,120
to be excited to see. 
It. 

889
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,040
You know, I'd love to kind of 
bring it back to you and kind of

890
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,080
a similar line of questions, but
I think we just closed abstract 

891
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040
month one. 
What was it last week? 

892
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,800
I'm curious for your thoughts 
and perspective on on how it 

893
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,840
went and how you're you're maybe
thinking about month 2. 

894
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,800
Yeah. 
So I think from our side, I 

895
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,720
think we're really going to try 
to lean into a couple really 

896
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,160
awesome social elements. 
And I think we're kind of on the

897
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,960
brink of really doing what I 
think is probably the most 

898
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,120
exciting part for us, which is 
how do we really bring new 

899
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,760
people in. 
I think right now portal dot ABS

900
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,360
dot XYZI think is the best zero 
to 1 onboarding crypto. 

901
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,520
I think it is the best 
verticalized experience in 

902
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,680
crypto, and I think it has one 
of the best ecosystems. 

903
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,200
And I think one of the reasons 
why we decided to consolidate it

904
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,520
into like this one singular 
platform was in part for a lot 

905
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,360
of reasons. 
But I think one of the main 

906
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,760
reasons why we built abstract 
the way that we did was that I 

907
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,680
always wanted one central 
destination to kind of push 

908
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,880
marketing to. 
Meaning it's really easy for me 

909
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,680
to get millions of people to go 
to 1 singular site, but it's 

910
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,600
really hard for me to like 
market 9 different apps at the 

911
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,520
same time. 
And in this situation, you know,

912
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,440
now that I think the platform is
kind of at a place where I think

913
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,800
it's almost ready, you know, 
once we tie in these social 

914
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,240
features, which I think will be 
out in the next two weeks, I 

915
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:06,320
think we'll be at a place where 
I can sell to the outside world.

916
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,760
You know, this, this new 
iteration of fun and social on 

917
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,640
the Internet and then bringing 
them into this kind of top of 

918
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,720
funnel and then them kind of 
meandering and maneuvering 

919
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,920
around to all the different 
apps, whether it's on chain 

920
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,280
Heroes or Myriad or Gotcha or 
whatever, whatever the app is. 

921
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,400
I think the beauty of our 
platform is I don't need to 

922
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,080
market 10 different things. 
I need to market 1 central 

923
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,600
destination, which ultimately 
then, you know, left everybody 

924
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,160
else up. 
So I'm excited for that. 

925
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,480
And I think we're finally on the
verge of actually doing that. 

926
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,160
And I'm and I'm really excited 
for what I think the next couple

927
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,240
of months look like. 
But you know, first month there 

928
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,440
was some bump bumps in the road 
today. 

929
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,000
I really believe that. 
I think our ecosystem and what 

930
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,640
we built, I think it's just 
completely different than what I

931
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,720
think we've seen from previous 
block chains and where where 

932
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,120
they've been going and what 
they've been building in terms 

933
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,240
of how they've been building it.
And I'm really excited to kind 

934
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,600
of scale it into, you know, 
scale it up here in the next 

935
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,640
couple of months. 
And I will also say I was hoping

936
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,240
it would be announced on this 
space because I thought it was 

937
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:17,360
pretty cool, because Froak and I
had done kind of alluded to this

938
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,040
at NFT Paris. 
I can't, I can't say exactly 

939
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,920
what it is. 
Come on. 

940
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Yeah, it should, it should be 
live in the next 1520 minutes. 

941
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
There's a there's a really big 
moment, I think for for pudgy 

942
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,480
Penguins in the in our ecosystem
here coming in the next 2025 

943
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,200
minutes from an institutional 
perspective. 

944
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,120
Wow. 
Well, are. 

945
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,880
You waiting for DAS? 
Is that where it's being 

946
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,880
announced? 
No, no, no, I that was that was 

947
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,640
a good idea in hindsight, but it
just turned out that today was 

948
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,440
the day that I think some of 
this stuff got filed. 

949
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,280
So you'll, you'll see it and 
you'll see it, I told your. 

950
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,400
Ass. 
Wait, go ahead. 

951
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Sorry. 
No, you'll see here in a couple 

952
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,640
minutes. 
I don't even want to talk about 

953
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,840
it until like it's public. 
Yeah, yeah. 

954
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,560
Yeah. 
Wowza. 

955
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,240
What? 
So in Paris, there's a viral 

956
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,240
clip of me and Luke on stage 
where I still the question 

957
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,960
whatever pudgy like what's going
on? 

958
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,480
And he was like something like 
institution something something 

959
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,360
pudgy Penguin NFTS. 
And then we talked about these 

960
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,280
guys think I was three. 
And then we almost opened a 

961
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,840
market for it on Marriott. 
My call remains. 

962
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,160
I mean, look at you don't have 
to unmute. 

963
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,240
I don't want to fuck your shit 
up. 

964
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,800
But you know, my call was like, 
this is going to be a filing for

965
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,560
an NFTETS. 
So that's just pudgy related. 

966
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,480
But you're seeing Penguin. 
I know you're close with Ben 

967
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,240
Atkin Bitwise. 
I'm just saying. 

968
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:41,320
I'm just saying bro 15 minutes 
ETFNFTS. 

969
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,880
Fuck, we have to wait 1520 
minutes. 

970
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,080
Brutal. 
He's going to make us wait. 

971
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,040
But I am that was one of my 
questions. 

972
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Luke, I am curious how has it 
been kind of balancing like the 

973
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,320
pudgy eco with the abstract eco 
and they're like, there's this a

974
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,680
lot. 
I'm sure you're juggling a lot 

975
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
of balls. 
How's how's that aspect been? 

976
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Yeah, I think it, it, it hasn't 
been as hard as I thought it 

977
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,480
would be because like they're 
almost like autonomous trains to

978
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,800
a certain at least pudgy 
Penguins. 

979
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Is is supposed to know at least 
from from that perspective or, 

980
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,000
or sorry, I just got a text 
message. 

981
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:28,760
But yeah, sorry. 
No, but but I think it's not 

982
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,440
that it's not that difficult. 
I thought maybe it would be 

983
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,720
difficult, but it's not that 
difficult. 

984
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,120
I think from our perspective, 
like the OR from my perspective,

985
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,680
the the pudgy Penguin stuff is 
like really autonomous. 

986
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,520
I mean, there's like 65 full 
time people. 

987
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,200
They're just marching in One 
Direction. 

988
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:51,440
I think from the other side 
there's a, you know, the 

989
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,040
abstract stuff I think probably 
takes a little bit more of my 

990
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,320
time just because it's a little 
bit more in its infancy. 

991
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,600
But I also think from an 
engineering and from a team 

992
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,560
perspective, abstract has like, 
I think one of the best teams 

993
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,360
I've ever worked with or gotten 
to know. 

994
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,800
So I think we're on a pretty 
good free flowing, you know, 

995
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,560
kind of cadence right now that I
think we're all kind of 

996
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,080
comfortable with. 
Maybe in the beginning, it was a

997
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,280
little bit tough when you were 
kind of like critically thinking

998
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,520
on everything. 
But now that you know where 

999
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,480
where both products are going, 
it's really just about hard work

1000
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,720
and marching in One Direction. 
Nice. 

1001
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Well, that's good to hear. 
I'm curious, a lot of balls in 

1002
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,640
the air. 
What are you most focused on? 

1003
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,520
Like, what's the number one 
thing that's on your mind when 

1004
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,080
you're waking up on Thursday, 
March 20th? 

1005
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,000
I. 
I think right now everything to 

1006
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,720
me is really straightforward. 
I think there's one critical 

1007
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:49,080
problem that I'm looking to 
solve on the abstract side that 

1008
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,360
I think has taken a lot of my 
time, which is how do you really

1009
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,720
get the on chain activity going?
And then the problem there is a 

1010
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:59,160
little bit harder than I think 
people think on its face. 

1011
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,640
So I'm spending a lot of my 
time, I think really kind of 

1012
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,760
addressing what I think the 
biggest problems in our 

1013
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,880
ecosystem are. 
And that's probably the first 

1014
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:11,240
one. 
So most of my day, at least in 

1015
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:17,960
the short term, has consist of. 
Most of my day in the short term

1016
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:24,040
consists of solving for that 
problem and then as kind of 

1017
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,200
problems arise, I kind of pivot 
into different ones. 

1018
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,760
I love that I love that well, 
good luck with everything Luca. 

1019
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,400
I can't wait for this 
announcement. 

1020
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,520
All right, sorry for the people 
who can't hear on on stream, but

1021
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,560
the spaces could hear so that 
was the important part. 

1022
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,360
So basically this was overhyped 
as if he's speaking first of 

1023
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,560
all, he was not speaking there. 
Classic. 

1024
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,360
First of all, so sorry to every 
participant and then second of 

1025
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,760
all, it was a 2 minute and 41 
second video, which is great by 

1026
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,880
the way. 
I think this is bullish because 

1027
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,640
the president of America is 
taking time to make a video 

1028
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,400
again. 
Again, every chance he has to 

1029
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,840
speak of a crypto, he speaks. 
So this is bullish. 

1030
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,360
But in this Intel page, I mean 
what the fuck are you going on 

1031
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,920
about posting this? 
Way off. 

1032
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:13,120
The price action didn't match 
that rumor. 

1033
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,960
Yeah, but you know what? 
85 eight dude. 

1034
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,880
Barely a sell off. 
This is pretty soul. 

1035
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,600
I don't we we can't just be 
rooting for Trump to make huge 

1036
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:25,880
announcements. 
To Trump, I agree. 

1037
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,120
Yeah, the. 
Other things. 

1038
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,920
So I think he he basically just 
kind of reconfirmed everything 

1039
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,600
he already. 
Said correct. 

1040
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,320
Just kind of just the executive 
order. 

1041
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,640
The yeah, he's just, it's a, 
it's like a press tour for 

1042
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,240
crypto. 
I mean, Das is a massive, he 

1043
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,120
knows his audience, right? 
Like he knows, like it's in New 

1044
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,080
York. 
Every single massive institution

1045
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,880
that is either in crypto or 
looking to be in crypto in the 

1046
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,240
USA is there. 
It's arguably the largest 

1047
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,160
conference of the year on 
American soil when it comes to 

1048
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,560
institutions because consensus 
moves, remember Toronto and Hong

1049
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,680
Kong. 
So, so he addresses it. 

1050
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,960
So for me, the way I read this, 
Tyler, I think you feel similar 

1051
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,200
to me, is bullish. 
He's speaking there. 

1052
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,280
By the way, we're back at 86 K. 
Nice. 

1053
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,880
So, yeah, only the people who 
went 100 X long on the on the no

1054
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,400
crypto tax rumor are wrecked 
here. 

1055
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,760
So everyone else is going to be 
just fine. 

1056
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,240
I mean, I think the every time 
he says that he wants to make 

1057
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,760
America the undisputed Bitcoin 
superpower and crypto capital of

1058
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,880
the world. 
I mean, I like to hear that as 

1059
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,080
as an American. 
I like that he wants people to 

1060
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,640
build crypto companies in the 
US, saying the passion of the 

1061
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,720
crypto community is the kind of 
spirit that builds our country. 

1062
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:41,800
I like to I'm a guy who likes 
affirmation, so I do appreciate 

1063
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,840
that and I think people who get 
doom and gloom and depressed 

1064
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,240
from reading crypto Twitter all 
day do that, you know, they they

1065
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:52,080
need to hear things like this 
sometimes as well. 

1066
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,400
So no major news, but continued,
you know, positive rhetoric. 

1067
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:57,800
It's a good. 
Outcome. 

1068
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,960
Yeah, yeah. 
He denounced the the pudgy ETF 

1069
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,560
though, So so we're still 
waiting. 

1070
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,840
We're waiting for that. 
It's been 20 minutes, Luca. 

1071
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,920
I didn't. 
I didn't say that's what it was 

1072
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,440
for Rogue. 
Maybe we can run this. 

1073
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,040
We can run this tomorrow. 
Yes, let's run into OK, you know

1074
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,280
what, we'll hold you up to that.
Let's hold that tomorrow. 

1075
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,960
I think. 
I think I think that was very 

1076
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,520
positive. 
Yo, Luca, thank you as well as 

1077
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,200
usual for for showing up and 
supporting us. 

1078
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,840
Shout out to Abstract. 
Fucking love Abstract. 

1079
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,360
I'm glad we're building on 
there. 

1080
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,400
We love it. 
Scarley, thank you so much for 

1081
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,360
today. 
What you're building is awesome.

1082
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,480
I know that because my team is 
hooked up on it and they're like

1083
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,920
gaming and they're picky. 
So that means you build 

1084
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,320
something good. 
Scully, congratulations with 

1085
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,680
your success with On Training 
Heroes. 

1086
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,320
Tyler, I will see you tomorrow 
and the rest of y'all. 10:00 AM 

1087
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,840
Eastern Standard Time for the 
episode of FOMO Hour on Rock 

1088
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Radio. 
Let's go.