1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:02,230 Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,590 Good morning. Good morning GMG. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:12,490 Friday it's Friday, then it's Saturday, Sunday 13th of October 4 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:17,370 October October 2023. Look at that. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,910 Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,690 Let me let my cohost up on Here I Go, My Coast in the house. 7 00:00:25,650 --> 00:00:29,300 Joseph Mando, how you doing today? 8 00:00:30,620 --> 00:00:32,130 Good. How you guys doing? 9 00:00:34,090 --> 00:00:35,580 I said. A little chocolate felt good. 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Yeah, my both my siblings are in town, so that's so cute. 11 00:00:40,890 --> 00:00:43,730 Yeah, yeah. So I've been spending time with 12 00:00:43,740 --> 00:00:47,890 them and with my daughter, and it's been pretty cool. 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,630 That's cool. That's cute. 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,770 That sounds very cute, actually. You love to hear that. 15 00:00:52,970 --> 00:00:55,230 I love to hear. That cute guy, you know. 16 00:00:56,730 --> 00:01:01,120 Cute things under that, under that, that, that look and you 17 00:01:01,130 --> 00:01:03,280 know. And look under that fucking 18 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:05,040 hell. That black T-shirt, under under 19 00:01:05,050 --> 00:01:08,000 the black, on black outfits. And they're very, like British, 20 00:01:08,010 --> 00:01:10,980 like, you know, just calm, composed attitude. 21 00:01:11,150 --> 00:01:15,160 There's a very cute man though, under that so. 22 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:18,360 It's deep, deep down, deep down, very deep down. 23 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:21,110 That's so deep dogs. You know it's true, though 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,030 you're hella cute that that is. That is true about Mando regret 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,470 lunch today with Ovie and Benny actually in and Vanessa A Chucks 26 00:01:30,570 --> 00:01:32,330 was nice. Ohh, you went to Chucks. 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,110 Yeah, yeah. Look at you. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,650 I didn't know. It was. 29 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:39,080 I didn't know what it was until until today. 30 00:01:39,090 --> 00:01:40,970 And it was delicious. And you cock Monsieur. 31 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:42,650 By the way, how was your lamb? Was that good? 32 00:01:42,690 --> 00:01:44,110 It was good, yeah, it was really good. 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:52,260 Had a croc Monsieur, a crock, a croque A croque Monsieur. 34 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:56,980 No cook miss you every defeat and it was and it was pretty 35 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:59,920 good and with Benny who actually just a great chat about things 36 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:02,720 are you know what I have to say like some really solid people 37 00:02:02,730 --> 00:02:05,320 out here for freeze. It's really fun. 38 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:07,700 I mean I can't wait. I'm going to go to the unit 39 00:02:07,750 --> 00:02:12,160 event after this and maybe W one as well I got to walk by W1 40 00:02:12,170 --> 00:02:14,420 curates yesterday so I that's where you guys did your event 41 00:02:14,430 --> 00:02:16,720 right. Like that place is sick. 42 00:02:17,380 --> 00:02:19,540 Serious venue. It's a very serious venue 43 00:02:19,550 --> 00:02:24,080 outside, like with all the screens and stuff is actually 44 00:02:24,090 --> 00:02:26,230 sick. It's the first time I saw it, 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,750 like I had never seen it in person, so I thought, I thought 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,940 it was fired. But yeah, Freeze London, full 47 00:02:31,950 --> 00:02:35,180 effect and a whole lot of fun stuff happening for that. 48 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:38,000 Do you have, do you have the, the, the, the streaming link? 49 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:40,800 I don't think, I don't think we do have it yet, but I'm going to 50 00:02:40,810 --> 00:02:42,960 post as soon as we do. But for everybody, we're live on 51 00:02:42,970 --> 00:02:47,070 audio, we're live on video as usual on this fine Friday The 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 13th question for you guys has Friday 13th. 53 00:02:49,890 --> 00:02:53,120 Is that a a a bad luck thing for you guys or a good? 54 00:02:53,130 --> 00:02:56,640 Luck thing for you guys usually I think. 55 00:02:56,950 --> 00:02:58,900 Definitely bad, no? Yeah. 56 00:03:00,190 --> 00:03:03,160 It's supposed to be bad, but I've never personally had a bad 57 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:04,880 experience. On Friday the 13th I knock on 58 00:03:04,890 --> 00:03:07,720 wood touch. Yeah, fuck did. 59 00:03:08,290 --> 00:03:11,120 Yeah. Yeah, like that shit scares me. 60 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:13,460 Wait, they've never had a bad day. 61 00:03:13,790 --> 00:03:17,400 Like, you know, like East Coast to like 1100 to like Lynn Hour. 62 00:03:17,790 --> 00:03:20,040 You know, cause Keyboard Monkey. Well, there you go. 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,850 There you go. Never had a. 64 00:03:22,860 --> 00:03:24,710 Ladies and gentlemen, it's there you go. 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,670 He's had his time, he spoke, he's had his quote of speaking 66 00:03:27,740 --> 00:03:32,370 for the show and he's out. Happens electromatic effect. 67 00:03:32,860 --> 00:03:34,850 I like that. I like the dramatic effect. 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,510 Yeah, I like there's. So many. 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,380 Friday the 13th, you know what I mean? 70 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:41,910 Like. This must be, what, nearly two a 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,350 year, right? At least like, I feel like 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,010 there's been a lot more of these past years. 73 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:48,110 Or do we just put so much emphasis on them? 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,370 I don't know. Because there's thirteen months. 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,350 Sorry. So it's 12 months and the seven 76 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,550 days in a week. Yeah, on average that's 1.72 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,100 every year. Yeah. 78 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:58,100 I mean, you don't have to do that. 79 00:03:58,110 --> 00:03:59,380 You could just work out the math, right? 80 00:03:59,390 --> 00:04:03,260 Right, quick math. This isn't it because it changes 81 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:05,230 every The days change every year, right? 82 00:04:05,460 --> 00:04:09,690 There is 1.72 per year. On average there is a Friday the 83 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:15,030 13th once every 212.35 days. Um, interest. 84 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:17,750 Hmm. OK. 85 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:20,970 Well, that's interesting. I guess we'll see what this 86 00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:23,900 Friday 13th brings us. That's for sure, because we're 87 00:04:23,910 --> 00:04:26,390 about to talk about it. So today on the show today 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,890 today, market update, ETF bank stocks, this whole bunch of 89 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:34,150 stuff, you collapse foot or not an IRL clubhouse. 90 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:37,030 See a lot of more conversations about this on the timeline, deep 91 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,660 fakes on meta. Are we going too far? 92 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:42,090 That's something we're talking about with over lunch today 93 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:43,410 because we saw this on the timeline. 94 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:45,390 But I thought it was like crazy, honestly. 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,810 So definitely talked about on the show this morning and then 96 00:04:49,820 --> 00:04:55,530 blur blur blur blur is up on the news that there may be a like a 97 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:59,010 a market fee of of one point. And last but not least, of 98 00:04:59,020 --> 00:05:02,190 course we have the Stubbs burned today for the artwork of T3 this 99 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,960 week and then I will be joined by Decrypt quickly just talk 100 00:05:05,970 --> 00:05:09,290 about the lettuce endeavour. But the 1000 next community that 101 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:11,910 they are launching our great friends at Decrypt. 102 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,910 And as usual, our show is powered by cracking Goal 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,910 cracking.com/rug radio. You know how to spell that by 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,050 now and give it a look and give us some love for sure. 105 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:25,450 Definitely give it a love and a bunch of clicks, it's good for 106 00:05:25,460 --> 00:05:29,270 us. Anyways, topic number one. 107 00:05:30,340 --> 00:05:35,450 Ohh stuff. And Orlando, you know, markets 108 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:38,550 seem to have like somewhat pumped earlier and now it's kind 109 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,640 of like kind of flat. But what what what's the, what's 110 00:05:41,650 --> 00:05:43,510 the latest? When are we getting ETF news? 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,070 Like I read some stuff on Mandel Minutes, but the bank stocks 112 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,540 this morning and whatnot. So talk to me about the market. 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,010 Well, the ETF stuff should be, yeah. 114 00:05:54,300 --> 00:06:03,450 They did. Ohh, stuff was just waiting to 115 00:06:03,460 --> 00:06:05,490 tuck into another grenade bar right there. 116 00:06:05,660 --> 00:06:07,070 Too good. Too good. 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:17,410 Yeah, that was that was snake. That was like clip that probably 118 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:20,330 that was brilliant, alright. Ohh, well well the ETF stuff, 119 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:25,560 the the remember, the deadline for the SEC to appeal the 120 00:06:25,570 --> 00:06:30,350 grayscale decision is today. I don't know the time it is. 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,150 I'm guessing maybe it's like midnight Eastern Time or 122 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,020 something. So. 123 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:37,100 See, they work government hours, so this We'll hear about this 124 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:39,040 soon. Yeah, if if you don't see a 125 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:42,760 filing within the next, I don't know like 12 hours, basically 126 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:46,270 it's it means it's not happening, which I think is a 127 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:48,140 good. I think I I personally think you 128 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:50,220 will see crypto bounce a little bit on that. 129 00:06:50,510 --> 00:06:52,060 I don't think it's gonna be a huge group. 130 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:55,340 I think you'll see something decent on that. 131 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:57,840 Conversely, if they come in, they do appear. 132 00:06:57,850 --> 00:06:59,180 I think crypto will fucking sell off. 133 00:06:59,190 --> 00:07:04,450 So wait, why would crypto bounce on them getting rejected again 134 00:07:04,660 --> 00:07:06,000 pushed. No, it's not. 135 00:07:06,010 --> 00:07:08,880 It's not rejected or pushed. It's a it's whether they appeal 136 00:07:08,890 --> 00:07:11,260 the decision or not. Don't appeal. 137 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:14,660 Yeah, and don't appeal. They'll also accept the 138 00:07:14,670 --> 00:07:16,300 application. So they'll be like, right, we're 139 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:17,610 going to move forward to the next stage? 140 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:21,290 So you'll either hear them say, look, look, no, we're going to 141 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:23,590 appeal the decision or we'll take this to the next stage. 142 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:28,390 And obviously if they don't the next day, it's a good thing. 143 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,260 But we'll probably start to wait till January. 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,750 Open interest, which is like how much people are doing, putting 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,390 on futures trades, has been rising. 146 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:37,660 Are going into this, you've seen. 147 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:41,210 The discount on the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust also narrowed to 148 00:07:41,220 --> 00:07:46,760 about 16% and you've seen. And you've seen funding go 149 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:49,090 positive, which just everything indicates that people are adding 150 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:52,610 longs, they're adding longs. Obviously the markets been down 151 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:54,960 about yesterday. It really started to pick up 152 00:07:54,970 --> 00:07:56,360 again and people started adding long. 153 00:07:56,370 --> 00:07:58,580 So I think people are waiting for this decision to happen. 154 00:07:59,370 --> 00:08:01,480 And you could see a pump on the back of it. 155 00:08:01,490 --> 00:08:03,230 I don't. It still feels like January is 156 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,220 probably where the main pump would happen this. 157 00:08:06,290 --> 00:08:10,240 This feels as though this isn't going to cause us to go up like 158 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:13,740 5% or something like that, but it could definitely be from us 159 00:08:13,750 --> 00:08:15,970 getting hurt for a while. This could definitely be a 160 00:08:15,980 --> 00:08:19,060 bounce, but keyword monkey said we're going to 20K. 161 00:08:19,130 --> 00:08:20,700 Exactly. That's when you know. 162 00:08:22,270 --> 00:08:25,770 Alright, great. Did Black radio with KBM on 163 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:29,110 Wednesday and he was like, yeah, I've stopped creating. 164 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,679 He's like, I called it, right, I called, it was going lower and 165 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:35,490 I've lost money during it. So I'm not doing it anymore, he 166 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:40,429 said. 20K and 1100 for ETH. How do you guys feel about 167 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,610 Keyboard monkeys called today? That was the local lows. 168 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:45,310 I will bet you right now he does not have that position on. 169 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,180 I'll bet you a lot of money. I mean, he's keeping the 170 00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:53,290 leverage. He does 100X leverage trades. 171 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:54,740 Like there's no way he's keeping that on. 172 00:08:54,810 --> 00:08:57,640 Crazy. I I'm scared when I go above 173 00:08:57,650 --> 00:09:00,220 like Ted X. So imagine just 100 X for a big 174 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:02,100 trade. I have you ever? 175 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,980 Now. Have you ever caught a big trade 176 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:07,640 on 1000 X like without getting stopped out? 177 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:10,940 I never do 1800 X. Quite a few times I caught a 178 00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:15,680 tiny one but lasted like the other day when XRP the news came 179 00:09:15,690 --> 00:09:21,760 out I went full like DJ on like I don't know like $1000 and I I 180 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:25,820 made 100% return in like 30 seconds and I closed it so good 181 00:09:25,870 --> 00:09:27,760 it was like. What you drinking there? 182 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:31,090 Are you like so many tickets for everything he drinks and eats 183 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:32,340 like this is? Crazy. 184 00:09:32,430 --> 00:09:34,320 The the fever tree, right? They're not. 185 00:09:34,330 --> 00:09:37,230 Paying Oh my God, they're the competition. 186 00:09:37,270 --> 00:09:39,030 The competition. I've been drinking the 187 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,900 competition, competition, the competition. 188 00:09:42,010 --> 00:09:44,060 That's crazy. If it didn't make drink, I don't 189 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:47,360 want it. How did the how did the the 190 00:09:47,370 --> 00:09:51,560 docks dev, how was that last night on his own stage? 191 00:09:51,570 --> 00:09:53,490 I don't get it. Was he hosting his own press 192 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,400 conference? It was hosted by like one of the 193 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:59,100 Zuma community, so we need to host one next. 194 00:09:59,210 --> 00:10:00,700 Yeah. So I think we can go around and 195 00:10:00,710 --> 00:10:02,240 host one, like do one here maybe. 196 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:06,470 Do another drink. Hold on this fucking Scottish 197 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,810 Water. Fucking Scottish Water. 198 00:10:12,510 --> 00:10:15,200 It was a weird one because I think he's also like a nice guy, 199 00:10:15,210 --> 00:10:17,400 so we were kind of like trying to shit talk each other, but it 200 00:10:17,410 --> 00:10:19,060 was just The thing is that you're like. 201 00:10:19,070 --> 00:10:21,340 Really awkward. It's like, it's like, I'm gonna 202 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:22,670 knock you out, man. Oh. 203 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:27,450 Yeah, cool idea man. You are way too nice. 204 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:28,520 You're way too. Nice. 205 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:32,930 You are way too nice. Started talking shit yesterday 206 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:34,180 with me. Like I really appreciated that 207 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:35,480 by the way. Like that was good. 208 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:36,680 About what? I forget. 209 00:10:36,690 --> 00:10:39,560 Like, who even is that guy? We've never heard of this like. 210 00:10:39,710 --> 00:10:44,480 I even I even put that under under over his tweet ohh 211 00:10:44,490 --> 00:10:48,160 yesterday like ohh for those of you wondering who my opponent is 212 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:51,540 here, who he is and like post their video about him like his 213 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:54,040 like life essay and documentaries like prop him up. 214 00:10:54,110 --> 00:10:57,410 I'm calling it right now OF is going to be best mates with this 215 00:10:57,420 --> 00:11:00,660 guy by the end of the fight, literally buying his Pokémon. 216 00:11:00,670 --> 00:11:03,660 Friends for life. Like whatever shit coined this 217 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:06,880 guy comes out with over the next 10 years, OSF is buying it. 218 00:11:07,050 --> 00:11:09,260 He's like a whale bag like they are. 219 00:11:09,270 --> 00:11:12,680 They are going to be ride or die by the end of this Clasico. 220 00:11:12,690 --> 00:11:17,430 Is that no ohh these second wallet is like dogs, is like top 221 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,890 chart and like all this shit coins like there's always like 222 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:21,890 OS F2 dot. E Exactly. 223 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,270 It's gonna be like, he's gonna be like top holder of Zoomer 224 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,150 coin after the fight. Like it's gonna be like OS F2. 225 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,970 It's gonna be like the new like the new like saviour, like like 226 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:33,070 the mock community I have like this summer calling comma LSF 227 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,430 like he's gonna be like pumping shit. 228 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:41,020 I've shit coin with his wallet and he's like I'm sorry Oh my 229 00:11:42,270 --> 00:11:45,740 Like like hug is gonna be so cute and wholesome. 230 00:11:45,790 --> 00:11:47,940 I've I don't know any enemies of ours. 231 00:11:47,950 --> 00:11:51,500 I've I've known him for a long time, like he sometimes has 232 00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:54,900 people who become brief enemies and then then they become 233 00:11:54,910 --> 00:11:57,600 friends. That's usually the way it goes. 234 00:11:57,610 --> 00:12:00,400 Last time I saw OV beef with someone on timeline he ended up 235 00:12:00,410 --> 00:12:06,000 saying 35 ETH on the guys bag. True story. 236 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:14,270 It's like deleting all be saying that he's not an artist next you 237 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,090 know bodies like buying him coffee in 35 and forth of art, 238 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:18,690 everything. Like what the fuck dude? 239 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:25,060 Like Oh my God, sorry. Why we we should be like 240 00:12:25,070 --> 00:12:27,110 propping Alvi up. Not like dealing with him we 241 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,200 should not be. Like ohh we should not be. 242 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:32,460 We need to hype man. He needs someone like in front 243 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:34,060 of him. With the press conference, I 244 00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:36,720 feel like they're like, community is like that person, 245 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:37,590 right? Like the whole. 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,960 Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. 247 00:12:40,170 --> 00:12:43,020 I think you have a, you have a comedian like Django like talk 248 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:46,440 so much shit like right guys. So it's just like, so it's like 249 00:12:46,450 --> 00:12:48,890 you're good, like you're fine but we're look, Benny and I both 250 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:51,460 have 25 K each on your name. Against. 251 00:12:51,470 --> 00:12:54,850 Two against anyone who wants to take the the other side. 252 00:12:54,860 --> 00:12:57,210 I'm sure it's gonna be some websites gonna pop up like once 253 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:59,630 we're closer to fight. So Benny and are each 2025. 254 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:00,810 See, this is what I've been thinking. 255 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:04,820 Tommy, he runs the event. Yeah, the guy literally runs the 256 00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:07,880 event in Dubai. Yeah, this is most probably 257 00:13:07,890 --> 00:13:10,670 going to be a draw. Like as in like no one knocking 258 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:12,910 each other out is what? Sorry, this is not going to be a 259 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,850 knockout. Which means we're going to go to 260 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:18,930 some judges scorecard of the guy who's been organising the event 261 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:22,660 for years in Dubai. Hi, baby. 262 00:13:23,050 --> 00:13:25,090 I'm just saying ohh, what do you think about? 263 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,240 That I'm not. I I think ORF wins the fight on 264 00:13:27,290 --> 00:13:29,520 on paper, but maybe doesn't win the fight on decision. 265 00:13:29,530 --> 00:13:31,910 I think of that. I think how? 266 00:13:32,110 --> 00:13:35,480 I think that's a fair point. I think I have to win 267 00:13:35,490 --> 00:13:37,210 convincingly where they can't do that. 268 00:13:37,270 --> 00:13:39,060 Well, your answer should be no man, though. 269 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:40,540 Fuck you, I'm gonna knock him out. 270 00:13:40,610 --> 00:13:42,570 No, I'm just calling that. It's already fixed. 271 00:13:45,070 --> 00:13:46,940 Something I have to I have. I've gotta go for it. 272 00:13:46,950 --> 00:13:50,120 I'm not just gonna like exactly. Mess around trying to score 273 00:13:50,130 --> 00:13:51,520 jabs. I think that's what he's gonna 274 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:52,840 try and do. That's the only way. 275 00:13:52,910 --> 00:13:56,730 Course he has a chance, but ohh, there we go. 276 00:13:56,740 --> 00:14:00,450 We're gonna go, here we go, and we're gonna need a cup. 277 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:01,490 So I didn't mean that didn't mean that. 278 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:08,430 Sorry. The 8th Right now we need to 279 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,710 compile this last little sentence Sims and make it seem 280 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,190 like he really talked shit so we can start the I think rock radio 281 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,830 is gonna take care of stirring the pot here, but let let my 282 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,920 team take care of it. OK, But so anyways. 283 00:14:19,930 --> 00:14:21,770 So wait wait, what? What do you OK, Market. 284 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:24,190 We're done with the market. Feels that way. 285 00:14:24,250 --> 00:14:26,260 OK, explaining to the point of this. 286 00:14:26,330 --> 00:14:29,320 Good, good, good news. OK cool, so you will laugh. 287 00:14:29,330 --> 00:14:31,260 So second topic today that we wanna talk about. 288 00:14:31,270 --> 00:14:32,640 Obviously it's all over the timeline right now. 289 00:14:32,650 --> 00:14:35,360 Is you collabs right? Food or facts? 290 00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:38,380 So Ugly Labs is being criticised at the moment for the small game 291 00:14:38,390 --> 00:14:41,440 prizes. Notably you know some pretty big 292 00:14:41,450 --> 00:14:45,920 and notable U Labs holders. Dee Farmer calling it a joke. 293 00:14:46,190 --> 00:14:48,480 He said this is a joke, right? Are you guys being serious? 294 00:14:48,490 --> 00:14:50,300 I hope this is a misunderstanding in these daily 295 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:52,980 rewards. These are daily rewards. 296 00:14:52,990 --> 00:14:55,790 App is literally being thrown around in the most hideous and 297 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,350 wasteful ways and you had one chance to create excitement and 298 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,670 bring some eyeballs. And this is what we get. 299 00:15:03,850 --> 00:15:07,170 So you know season six finished. So there's updates for like the 300 00:15:07,180 --> 00:15:09,440 Forge boss rate whatever. Like one of the games that for 301 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:12,710 heavy metal some people seem to have grinded this like over 70 302 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,810 hours and whatnot. And I'm trying to find the table 303 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:16,870 for you all about the the winners to share on the screen 304 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,000 right now. But it seems like the rewards 305 00:15:19,010 --> 00:15:23,540 were were very, very slow for for for people and a lot of 306 00:15:23,550 --> 00:15:28,090 people are not happy about that. A lot of people is really are, 307 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:31,310 you know, claiming that the rewards should be much higher 308 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,290 and that you know they're not paying enough. 309 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:36,180 Just so you know, like for example like Dookie Dash was a 310 00:15:36,190 --> 00:15:39,140 pretty big reward that ended up getting Mongrel paid $1,000,000. 311 00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:42,180 And obviously like the timeline seems to have been very bullish 312 00:15:42,190 --> 00:15:44,380 on that because you know, if we get the gamers in through 313 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:48,250 obviously paid gaming pools and whatnot, that would be bullish 314 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:50,450 and whatnot. So it seems like people are not 315 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:53,080 happy about this. So players spent more than 316 00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:57,540 700,000 Ape within the game. Top rewards from other events 317 00:15:57,550 --> 00:16:00,970 were significantly more valuable and then rewards outside of the 318 00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:05,080 top 500 pretty small, about like $45.00 USD and then rewards out 319 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:07,290 of the ape allocations. So developing your heavy metal 320 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:10,950 are not worth it at the current valuation of the collection and 321 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,220 that's per tweet from Wally who reported that. 322 00:16:13,230 --> 00:16:15,700 So the first person won like 4 grand. 323 00:16:16,330 --> 00:16:19,800 So what do you guys think? Like are we our expectations too 324 00:16:19,810 --> 00:16:23,600 high here or is like Yuga Labs kind of like dropping the balls 325 00:16:23,610 --> 00:16:26,810 in terms of these rewards? They're just maybe it's a 326 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:28,630 combination of both, but they're not. 327 00:16:28,890 --> 00:16:30,840 They're not really great rewards, are they? 328 00:16:30,850 --> 00:16:34,280 Like I think #1. The fact that it's eight point, 329 00:16:34,290 --> 00:16:38,250 it's just feels a bit circular and #2. 330 00:16:39,890 --> 00:16:41,280 Yeah, I just don't think they're. 331 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:46,560 I don't think the amount is anything big for people to want 332 00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:47,750 to like, play this, right? Like what? 333 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Is it just a four grand or something for the top prize? 334 00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:52,440 Yeah, for it's 3950, which is exactly. 335 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,450 Nothing, is it? Have you seen the fucking price 336 00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:57,710 of Acorn? I have. 337 00:16:58,070 --> 00:17:00,850 To bring it up OK, Do we really want to? 338 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:03,910 Yeah, I think we should. I think it's important in this 339 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,720 context because like, obviously this will stuff becomes far more 340 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:09,940 important if the price of acorns at like even 5. 341 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:12,930 Right? Here it is. 342 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,290 Oh, wow. It's been Bassett like it's 343 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,710 about to go below one. I think actually the game that 344 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,690 was brought up. Over the last few days is big 345 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:23,930 time. Game is a bigger market cap now 346 00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:28,040 than than Acorn. I think it is now because. 347 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:30,270 Yeah. Like it was very briefly for 348 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,030 sure. No, no, it's like even diluted. 349 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,070 So the diluted of Acorn is obviously just over over a 350 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,090 billion billion, yeah. Yeah, big time I thought I saw 351 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,370 was at 1.2 at one stage. Big time. 352 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:43,430 Big time is at 1.1. They're the same. 353 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,410 That's nuts. Helps. 354 00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:51,900 I mean, big time has been making games for way longer than you. 355 00:17:51,910 --> 00:17:55,740 Collabs like this is not new by the way. 356 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:59,560 I knew about the like before it came out, just fumbled, but 357 00:18:00,490 --> 00:18:02,880 yeah. I I felt like this was a bit of 358 00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:04,980 a still a sleeper. People wanna ohh everyone knew 359 00:18:04,990 --> 00:18:06,240 about it. I still think this was a bit of 360 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:11,440 a sleeper, but ohh yeah rewards too small cause like a lot of 361 00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:13,950 people seem to be unhappy on the timeline to that but the rewards 362 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,800 being too small based on how much time people spend to win. 363 00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:20,180 Like grinded. It of course, I guess all the 364 00:18:20,190 --> 00:18:23,790 point I'm just trying to make is that the coin prices, it could 365 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,930 be very different if the coin price was higher. 366 00:18:25,940 --> 00:18:29,260 So they probably decided this beforehand and then this is what 367 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:31,620 it's come out because the coin has been absolutely hammered. 368 00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:34,900 Maybe. Maybe should have been People 369 00:18:34,910 --> 00:18:36,680 apparently defying was saying this. 370 00:18:36,970 --> 00:18:40,740 They think he thinks like hundreds of thousands was spent 371 00:18:40,790 --> 00:18:44,230 on this 700K ape coin. Yeah, so. 372 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,090 There's a there's quite a big disparity there obviously, but. 373 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:51,870 Yeah. So you guys facing a lot of 374 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,190 criticism I think at the moment? Yeah, amazing. 375 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,910 This gaming ark is slightly different. 376 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,260 Yeah, obviously we've we've even said it ourselves, like people 377 00:18:59,270 --> 00:19:01,170 are wondering whether it should be spun out and be its own 378 00:19:01,180 --> 00:19:05,780 thing. And in terms of Calms, in terms 379 00:19:05,790 --> 00:19:09,790 of just feel it's it's they're doing a lot right. 380 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,670 And then you also saw the criticism yesterday. 381 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,430 I think we're even gonna come on to it is that people are asking 382 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,850 like well why are we doing all this We should just be doing 383 00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:20,750 community based things in real life. 384 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:24,530 I think I saw who was that from Tropo Farmer maybe but that's a 385 00:19:24,540 --> 00:19:26,190 long time. Like where is the Miami 386 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,690 clubhouse? Like where is where is the 387 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:30,570 clubhouses that potentially could have happened around the 388 00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:33,970 world? Um, that seems more tangible 389 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:35,080 than this. I don't. 390 00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:36,980 I don't know how many people were playing this game. 391 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,920 But I think it was love. I guess I go so some people are 392 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:46,040 bringing up this tweet right from Novo why do we care about 393 00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:49,260 the big way boss acorn rewards and then and then like you know 394 00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:51,920 small Acorn bonus. So it seems like people. 395 00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:54,390 So while this thread was like one of the main ones where 396 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,990 people were like talking about under like you have wobbling in 397 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,500 saying like not sure what people are expecting. 398 00:19:59,830 --> 00:20:02,750 You know, a lot of people saying the price pool is a joke, but a 399 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,860 lot of people are saying that, like, maybe you know, it's 400 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:06,940 tokens all time low and people are expecting things. 401 00:20:08,890 --> 00:20:12,780 I'm just a more think of gaming and stuff and the play to earn 402 00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:15,140 thing is you have to have a game. 403 00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:17,070 Like gamers want to play games that are good. 404 00:20:17,170 --> 00:20:19,250 I feel like they don't care about playing games that make 405 00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:21,950 them money, but like if they're gonna play a game that makes 406 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,450 them money, that is not good. Reward has to be higher, you 407 00:20:24,460 --> 00:20:25,580 know? I mean like to make up for the 408 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:29,180 game not being as entertaining and I feel like this is where 409 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:31,880 maybe they missed the mark, but I'm just not sure. 410 00:20:31,890 --> 00:20:33,870 I honestly, I didn't really follow the whole other metal 411 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,800 thing because personally speaking, that's just me 412 00:20:35,810 --> 00:20:37,810 speaking for oak like it's too complicated for me. 413 00:20:38,490 --> 00:20:44,660 Um, and it's too time consuming, but I don't know. 414 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:46,430 I don't know. I'm, I'm curious to see what 415 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,640 Daniel Agger is going to say. I mean Daniel is always on top 416 00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:52,340 of things and I fully personally believe in his ability to make 417 00:20:52,350 --> 00:20:54,600 things right at all times. And smart guy, I mean, we have 418 00:20:54,610 --> 00:20:56,940 on show and I think a lot of people really appreciated him, 419 00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:59,630 but. I don't know, but there is a 420 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,400 there is. This disparity, right? 421 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:04,060 Between the gaming community and this whole big time thing even 422 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:06,530 proved it right. It's like there is the gaming 423 00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:11,930 community and then there is the anti community and it feels as 424 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:13,610 though you guys trying to bridge that gap. 425 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,270 And it's not quite working on both ways. 426 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:20,430 Like you've got the FT community being like where we wanna be be 427 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,670 about community, you know, we wanna see things like events and 428 00:21:24,740 --> 00:21:28,590 in real life locations and and things that make us feel part of 429 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,940 a networking group. And then you have the gaming 430 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:33,750 community which is which is very different. 431 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,280 It's all about game play. And right now it feels like 432 00:21:36,290 --> 00:21:38,680 they're not really delivering on people. 433 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:40,630 They're facing criticism, let's say. 434 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,040 I think they've got a very difficult job, but they're 435 00:21:43,050 --> 00:21:46,270 facing criticism on both sides. And right, they're gonna have 436 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,020 to, they have to navigate that. But for me, if I was running 437 00:21:50,030 --> 00:21:53,000 Yugoslavs right now. I would be focusing on the 438 00:21:53,010 --> 00:21:54,760 community side of things. I agree. 439 00:21:54,810 --> 00:21:56,580 I would really. I mean, they do have, do they do 440 00:21:56,590 --> 00:21:58,580 have effects like literally around the corner like? 441 00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:03,190 You know they do but I just when I think about you Labs right now 442 00:22:03,460 --> 00:22:06,360 I still, I mean we had him on the show and he said look we 443 00:22:06,370 --> 00:22:09,250 we're a community. We're a community first and we 444 00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:13,550 were gaming company kind of we're we're a community from 445 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,790 doing gaming. But actually to me it feels 446 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,180 right now like they with their comms that I see on a regular 447 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:23,750 basis it feels more like a a gaming community that has still 448 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,210 holding on to this community and the community is starting to 449 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:30,920 feel a bit lost I so just to close up on the reward thing I 450 00:22:30,930 --> 00:22:33,160 do think the rewards should and could have been a little higher 451 00:22:33,170 --> 00:22:35,580 than this regarding the maybe the rate they should have waited 452 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:39,020 to see how much acorn expense was that 700 and maybe given 10% 453 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:42,020 of that now I don't look I don't know how it happens in the 454 00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:43,870 finance side behind the scenes so I don't want to act like I'm 455 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,930 an expert because I'm not. So I do understand it's like if 456 00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:49,760 the games really hard to play and people are calling it a 457 00:22:49,770 --> 00:22:52,260 chore like maybe just make the reward higher like dookie Dash 458 00:22:52,270 --> 00:22:55,040 was all for the money right. Like and it was fun like even I 459 00:22:55,050 --> 00:22:57,280 was playing Duke Dash first week like crazy we're all having fun 460 00:22:57,290 --> 00:22:59,880 with it and I guess we're even you guys don't freaking buying 461 00:22:59,890 --> 00:23:01,370 dookie keys and stuff like that at some point. 462 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,770 Right. But it's like I think like yeah 463 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:05,780 I like there I understand the rewards from team be more So 464 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:07,800 this leads to the second conversation around you claps 465 00:23:07,810 --> 00:23:10,450 today which you just mentioned already which I was also kind of 466 00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:15,080 like pushed by by by triple farmer who obviously like one of 467 00:23:15,090 --> 00:23:17,320 the main like you labs like he's almost like a mascot at this 468 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:19,290 stage for so for the body ball club. 469 00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:22,200 But, he said, you guys spending millions of dollars in the 470 00:23:22,210 --> 00:23:25,300 metaverse that no one might go to might as well spend millions 471 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:28,440 on IRL clubhouse that no one might go to just make it 472 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:32,180 literally only open to apes. Plus their invites would be the 473 00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:38,180 hottest place in Miami and an actual flex for ape owners, you 474 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:39,980 know? What do you think about that? 475 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:43,240 I, I, I I agree with the the community but also like also 476 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:46,250 before I go to you guys to ask your thoughts, they have been 477 00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:47,520 doing the community thing though, right? 478 00:23:47,530 --> 00:23:50,670 Like we did an event with them and let me tell you that behind 479 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,920 the scenes when you're an event with huge labs like they really 480 00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:55,760 freaking care like and I can tell you just like there's some 481 00:23:55,770 --> 00:23:57,840 me just talking you go up because we're partners and stuff 482 00:23:57,850 --> 00:24:00,030 like this for events like they actually really freaking care 483 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,510 about community. It was all about making sure 484 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,160 that the Korean community is happy that the other side, Korea 485 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:07,190 like it was really like Mike was like they were telling my team 486 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,060 at all times like make sure, make sure, make sure that the 487 00:24:09,070 --> 00:24:11,610 core you get this very happy. So that I can assure you that as 488 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:15,790 someone who actually has worked with them and also had a meeting 489 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,370 with Daniel CU and Singapore, which I can assure you like he 490 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:22,860 really cares on that front. Again, those seem to be focused 491 00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:24,710 on the gaming side because there's a lot going on there. 492 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,470 But then they also did fucking Mutant Friday or fucking Mutants 493 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,380 Miami did the event Rock radio. They're doing a pest, like how 494 00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:32,350 much more do you want them to do on the community side, right? 495 00:24:32,830 --> 00:24:37,020 Ohh, I'm going through labs main page right now. 496 00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:40,480 The thing pinned is twofold. Let's check it out. 497 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:47,420 Then it's the again 12 fold. Then we lot of 12 Volt here then 498 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:51,200 it's the other side test group. Umm. 499 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,830 Then it's obviously the restructuring is that they 500 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,390 mentioned, but boy. It's about punts separate, you 501 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,560 know. Then it's about punks. 502 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,890 I guess what I'm trying to say is like I I personally, as 503 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,110 somebody who's just looking at this, I feel as though. 504 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:08,960 They're doing a lot, and it's not that they can't, it's not 505 00:25:08,970 --> 00:25:12,880 maybe even that they aren't doing each thing to a competent 506 00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:16,340 level, But the community thing for me is the thing that I think 507 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:22,510 was the real defining factor and I just feel as though right now. 508 00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:27,680 I I feel a bit lost with how much they're doing and what 509 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:31,430 they're doing. And that become it becomes maybe 510 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,450 an important thing, but it's definitely, it definitely 511 00:25:33,460 --> 00:25:34,550 doesn't feel like the main thing. 512 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:37,590 Yeah, it feels like they are juggling a lot. 513 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,530 They, they, they they have a lot going on at yoga right now and 514 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:44,310 obviously restructuring can't be easy. 515 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,150 I mean, Tropo tweeting something like this says a lot. 516 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,370 Yeah. Yeah, it does. 517 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:49,880 You're right. I mean, he literally won that 518 00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:52,290 because it was the first person to ever win the game when it was 519 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:53,590 worth like, nothing. So. 520 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,490 He personally, he feels personally that he's able to 521 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,530 just like openly criticise to that extent. 522 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:01,720 I know criticise this quite a bit, but that I think it's a 523 00:26:01,730 --> 00:26:05,350 very rational point, like if you feel that way, you're right. 524 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:09,140 If I was to say to a friend right, somebody didn't get the 525 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:11,260 ball. Got cut, I said. 526 00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:15,350 It's basically like. Digital solar house with some 527 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,120 extra benefits, but like we have a location in Miami, we have a 528 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,010 location in London, we have a location in LA, we have a 529 00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:26,160 location in Hong Kong. Hmm, maybe maybe Singapore? 530 00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:30,120 Who knows? I'm joining that. 531 00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:32,330 Ohh I could. I can pick that to a lot of 532 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:33,980 people. Yeah. 533 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:36,020 I I would love to put my app to use for that. 534 00:26:36,030 --> 00:26:37,720 I I think, I think Trump's got a point. 535 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:41,880 But again like it's really not their focus like it. 536 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:45,680 I think the Undertaking they've gone like they ohh shit said the 537 00:26:45,690 --> 00:26:48,600 wind just blew my door open. The the the Undertaking is very 538 00:26:48,610 --> 00:26:53,250 big It's it's tough I. Yeah, let me just expand. 539 00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:54,910 They expand. Their team massively expanded 540 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,500 the universe massively and very sad. 541 00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:59,920 Raise that money. They had to have a plan for it, 542 00:26:59,930 --> 00:27:02,130 I think. And that's what they went out to 543 00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:04,100 execute and the markets took a turn. 544 00:27:04,110 --> 00:27:07,060 That's basically it. But you know, with all this 545 00:27:07,070 --> 00:27:08,670 clubhouse and that kind of stuff, you know, I think. 546 00:27:09,910 --> 00:27:12,320 At first it was like, ohh, this is like this cool Yacht Club 547 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:15,860 which has a cool. You know, it's cool to own at 548 00:27:15,870 --> 00:27:17,520 that kind of thing. And I think like they've lost 549 00:27:17,530 --> 00:27:21,210 that coolness a bit this year. So it makes it harder for to 550 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:22,510 for. You know what though in Asia is 551 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,880 the other way around, like in Asia I can tell you guys, yeah, 552 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:28,080 of course it's but when price goes back up, like it's cool 553 00:27:28,090 --> 00:27:29,190 again, right. So that's how it works. 554 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,220 But I can tell you get rich or rest assured. 555 00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:33,260 Like in Asia it's the opposite sentiment. 556 00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:37,980 But about like 40 apes, like I have met with a bunch of Chad 557 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:41,140 VC's and they gave me their telegrams and their PFP's are 558 00:27:41,150 --> 00:27:44,080 boarding. I'm not even making this up and 559 00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:47,570 all of them and they love apes and they love accumulating board 560 00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:49,270 apes. They open like board API club 561 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,870 thing in Japan and then suddenly grip posted a photo like the 562 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,710 sentiment on the other side of the world about like board API 563 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,530 club and and you got couldn't be more opposite than the sentiment 564 00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:01,780 on this side of the world. I think there's a problem here 565 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,210 where like how do you bridge that sentiment over? 566 00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:08,930 Because if S Hong Kong is probably gonna be a banger it 567 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:10,820 will be yeah I was. I was considering flying out 568 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:13,270 there to check it out for myself and having a couple of meetings 569 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,750 out there right in Hong Kong and like over there like, and I even 570 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,710 told you guys I went to board up your club. 571 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,990 Like meetups, even the punk meet ups, they're completely 572 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,580 different than the ones on this side of the world. 573 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,200 Like the handsome shaking over there and the people I get to 574 00:28:28,210 --> 00:28:31,090 meet at the beach was even the BBC like meet up over there it's 575 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:34,030 it's not the same as like on on this side. 576 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,940 I'm not trying to like throw shade at the ones here because I 577 00:28:35,950 --> 00:28:38,030 have just as much fun. Like put it well there isn't 578 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,620 fuck holders here because they're they're homies. 579 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:42,450 We've been here day one right? But like there is a different 580 00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:46,340 sentiment and I wonder how do you shift that sentiment from 581 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:49,970 Asia to the North America and Europe because there is a 582 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:51,760 completely different sentiment over there. 583 00:28:51,810 --> 00:28:53,900 But again, like, the NFT sentiment overall is torn apart. 584 00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:55,740 Like even in Europe, like, right, we just talked about the 585 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:57,330 art side with Benny for an hour at lunch, right? 586 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,680 Be like, Benny was like, wow, like this trip changed my 587 00:28:59,690 --> 00:29:02,180 mindset on the entire space and what I'm seeing in Europe is 588 00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:06,830 crazy. Yeah, so it's a weird thing, 589 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,330 right? Because crypto is this like 590 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:11,770 worldwide thing, permissionless, trustless, borderless by the 591 00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:14,110 day, like this massive, like cultural differences around the 592 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,590 world and all these things that make it really hard also. 593 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,570 So I don't know. We'll see. 594 00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:22,140 We'll see. We'll see. 595 00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:26,350 We'll see what happens next. I do think though, like to me 596 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:30,560 and I think to a lot of people, the main reason why all this 597 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:32,280 went down is because of mandolin OSPF. 598 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,480 Yeah, for sure. For sure I do. 599 00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:43,840 I do think it was you guys in January, in February when you 600 00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:45,880 sold, when you dumped your app, Samaji, I think. 601 00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:47,300 I think that was you guys that did that. 602 00:29:48,010 --> 00:29:50,850 It was it's all your fault. It's only look, the facts are 603 00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:52,720 facts. It's been downhill since. 604 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:55,810 I think. We. 605 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:59,370 Kick started it, but if it wasn't, it would have been 606 00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:01,540 someone else. It will, first of all. 607 00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:03,260 Yeah, of course. And second of all, I hope 608 00:30:03,270 --> 00:30:05,120 everybody knows that. I'm just obviously kidding. 609 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,780 Just trying to make it back for this tweet that you guys put out 610 00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:09,990 about me yesterday, which by the way, like did numbers. 611 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,420 So are you owe me half of your ex payout for next two weeks OV 612 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,140 because the thousand lives that you got on me like the airline I 613 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,910 did have to fire the rugby to intern over that comment 614 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,800 obviously just kidding but you know it was funny anyway so we 615 00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:27,560 spent quite a lot of time with this one I I guess it's fair for 616 00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:29,660 anyone if you know if you want to make your points to welcome 617 00:30:29,670 --> 00:30:33,480 too but I think like it's still a time fixes this type thing and 618 00:30:33,490 --> 00:30:35,810 look they just undergone like a huge structuring and I just 619 00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:39,610 think like when it comes to Co the guy came in and remember I 620 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:41,560 asked him just like you how do you feel about the undertaking 621 00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:43,930 like that you had to take on like no pressure like dude comes 622 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:46,790 in like Gordon had to go there's obviously like that that there 623 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080 was a wilderness what last year from C there's other side meant 624 00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:51,650 that already happened like this like coming into like the sugar 625 00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:54,580 ecosystem like holy shit like I gotta clean this up right like 626 00:30:54,590 --> 00:30:57,280 you know like I don't feel bad that's his job and he's probably 627 00:30:57,290 --> 00:30:59,190 good at it but like it's still at the end of the day like it's 628 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,910 a big job right. So I think this is something is 629 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,370 going to take a little more time and all eyes on the fest in Hong 630 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:07,190 Kong which I, I I know it's going to be a success because I 631 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,500 know some side events are going down and I I spoken to in 632 00:31:10,510 --> 00:31:12,920 Singapore and Korea to a lot of people are gonna be there and 633 00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:16,120 it's it's again like it's it's the people that you like as a 634 00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:17,740 founder you kind of want to be in the room with. 635 00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:21,540 Because I kind of feel like it reminds me of the company that 636 00:31:21,550 --> 00:31:25,920 made Runescape Jagex, or of like Blizzard, where like the 637 00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:28,700 community is going to constantly have this dialogue with them. 638 00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:32,290 Because they love, like they do really, really love, like what 639 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,360 could be built here. They have to face a lot of 640 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:37,690 criticism like you people have worked up Blizzard or that come 641 00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:40,840 or Jagex. Often it's tough right, Because 642 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:43,140 you get a place a lot of criticism all the time. 643 00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:45,690 So if you're working at you go like I can imagine it's tough 644 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,950 because you're like God, like we've got to deal with so much. 645 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,190 But I do that they wouldn't criticise anything if they 646 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,510 really didn't care as much. Like I think people like you 647 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,050 said that the IP is going to be there for a long time. 648 00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,610 People really do like they do fuck with the digital identity 649 00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,930 stuff and like there is their persona, like you said, 650 00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:07,310 particularly in places like Asia say, incredibly strong, cool, 651 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,830 even with the price going down. I think they just, you just have 652 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,780 to accept that if this is going to be like a you know, multi 653 00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:17,280 year decade thing that they have to face a lot of criticism 654 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:19,810 constantly. Look, Asia is still buying like 655 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:22,560 straight up, like I know that for a fact. 656 00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:24,600 Everything, man. They're the only shining light 657 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:25,600 of crypto. Yeah. 658 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:30,540 I mean they just bought Asia, just bought a gold eight floor 659 00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:32,560 capital, right. Flooring capital or whatever 660 00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:35,180 like you know freelance capital mishap to him, right. 661 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:39,630 So I think I think that if for the people I'm, I'm also saying 662 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,040 that like all the homies on the West side here like what side. 663 00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:46,180 But you know you know like I I have the conversations out there 664 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:48,770 and I see it and when I see PDF's on Telegram of all these 665 00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:50,830 chats that are all apes, I'm still like bullish like shit 666 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,070 like that's still they're like flags over there and that's what 667 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760 you want, right. So as long as your, your, your, 668 00:32:55,770 --> 00:32:57,280 your app is still flex you're fine. 669 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:59,530 The date stops being a Flex and maybe you're not as fine. 670 00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:01,900 I mean and they have to go into game that's what they raised the 671 00:33:01,910 --> 00:33:03,710 money for FY. So it's important. 672 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,340 Anyways moving on, moving on, moving on. 673 00:33:05,670 --> 00:33:07,980 We have some guests coming up shortly. 674 00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:13,130 AI and deep fakes. Have we gone too far? 675 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:17,190 OK, Meta Meta. Meta Meta is paying the 676 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:23,090 celebrity faces behind its AI chat bots as much as $5 million 677 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,890 for six hours of works per report. 678 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:30,310 So they unveiled their AI assistant features last month 679 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,930 featuring celebrities likeness like Mr Beast, Kendall Jenner, 680 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:38,530 Charlie D'amelio, and and it's actually pretty crazy. 681 00:33:38,540 --> 00:33:40,810 So I'm gonna I'm gonna share my screen here and show you guys a 682 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:43,640 video chat to Mika. Mika, don't lose, we missed you 683 00:33:43,650 --> 00:33:45,230 on the show. God, that should have called it 684 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,240 to cover this topic with us, but so, she posted. 685 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:51,300 Her go here and I'm going to be doing a quick little get ready 686 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:52,940 with me. Make sure if you have any 687 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:56,300 questions about products that I use or any tips and tricks to 688 00:33:56,310 --> 00:34:00,000 comment or message me and I will give you as much explanation. 689 00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:03,440 So this is like super weird man, like there's this like whole 690 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:05,580 like you know like comedies act whatever. 691 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:09,880 Like these AI chat bots, chat bots like this that are like 692 00:34:09,889 --> 00:34:14,040 little like you know, that are the faces of of of like Charlie 693 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:17,230 and whatnot. Amika did numbers and she got 694 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,409 community noted over here, but not because what she was sharing 695 00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:21,870 fake news. What she shared is very real 696 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,120 news. But I guess someone just added 697 00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:27,489 to it to say that they were hired to do so. 698 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,170 And it's super weird, man. Like this whole deep fake shit 699 00:34:31,179 --> 00:34:33,770 is going really far and it's actually over. 700 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:35,679 You mentioned something at lunch, like it's being used even 701 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:37,929 now to deep fake like war stuff and whatnot. 702 00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:42,070 Like, what was that about? Yeah, I know. 703 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,820 I don't know. I mean, I just you read all this 704 00:34:43,830 --> 00:34:46,909 shit about, like, people making AI images for it's dangerous. 705 00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:49,520 And especially in a time like this, when you have all this 706 00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:52,900 geopolitical conflict going on, you can really make some some 707 00:34:52,949 --> 00:34:57,790 realistic stuff and it will. You know, it will cause some 708 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,930 trouble in the world out there. So yeah, I mean, June 5th, there 709 00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:04,230 was a fake Putin announced that Russia under attack as Ukraine 710 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,220 goes on the offensive. Like you've had it a lot during 711 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:08,070 the Russia, Ukraine war and whatnot. 712 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,910 And it's just like, I don't know. 713 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,160 I mean influencers with different names now popping up a 714 00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:16,040 meta, UH with the name and likeness of these celebrities 715 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:18,880 like this is like, I'm I'm pretty sure Black Mirror had an 716 00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:21,880 episode on that. Yeah, probably. 717 00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:23,620 I think so. I'm pretty sure there was an 718 00:35:23,630 --> 00:35:27,600 episode on like ohh the first episode of New Season with Salma 719 00:35:27,610 --> 00:35:30,200 Hayek when she sells the rest of her thing. 720 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:31,770 Yeah, basically. Exactly that. 721 00:35:31,780 --> 00:35:33,410 Literally that. Yeah. 722 00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:34,860 Are we going too far with mental? 723 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:37,750 Do you think we're going too far with defects in AI here? 724 00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:41,710 I mean, what do you mean by too far? 725 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,350 Like too far? I don't know. 726 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640 Like are we like this is getting a. 727 00:35:46,650 --> 00:35:50,040 Little awkward this is, I think they paid them $2,000,000 each, 728 00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:52,270 right? For two years, someone unnamed 729 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,420 was paid $5 million for six hours of work. 730 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Yeah, but obviously they can use that. 731 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:59,510 They can use their likeness for forever. 732 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,510 So ohh for the next two years. Sorry, Sir. 733 00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:04,670 Yeah. I think this is what's going to 734 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,660 happen. We're going to be able to live 735 00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:09,760 on with digital. A digital version of yourself. 736 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,210 Yeah. I mean, it's honestly, I find 737 00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:17,730 this so weird and I don't know, I also read another he. 738 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:20,540 Brought this up at his things. Zac was like, yeah, you could do 739 00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:22,330 this for people after they die as well. 740 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,330 It was kind of a weird thing when he said that, that I was 741 00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:27,610 like, ohh. I. 742 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,700 Think it's gonna happen, So you're never gonna die, 743 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:32,210 technically. So actually with your. 744 00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:34,350 Hand I'm just saying that people will come back with like a 745 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,620 digital version of you. Exactly. 746 00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:37,640 That's why I thought so. Like you know how we thought 747 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:39,280 that like all this time we're gonna figure out a way to like 748 00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:41,170 live forever. But that is it. 749 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,320 You're gonna technically live forever, but someone else gonna 750 00:36:43,330 --> 00:36:45,270 take your name and likeness and your. 751 00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:48,340 I don't know. I mean, look, I don't want my 752 00:36:48,350 --> 00:36:50,150 hair to die. So, like, maybe someone can just 753 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,740 have my hair forever. Like, that's OK. 754 00:36:52,780 --> 00:36:55,950 You know, maybe it'll be the best hair in Web 69 at some 755 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,590 point. Yeah. 756 00:36:58,530 --> 00:37:00,820 I don't know, I, I, I personally find this really weird. 757 00:37:00,830 --> 00:37:03,320 It's just, you know, maybe we are going too far. 758 00:37:03,370 --> 00:37:05,740 Maybe not. But you can't stop it, that's 759 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:09,220 for sure. I I do think though I do think 760 00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:12,220 though anybody in that position would have also sold the rights. 761 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:15,160 I mean, you're telling me six, $5 million for six hours of my 762 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:17,460 time. I don't know. 763 00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:19,820 Maybe you're mad. I can, you know, give me a 764 00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:22,690 little ring. You know, I'm not against it. 765 00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:27,980 Would you guys do it? Yeah, why not I? 766 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:30,600 Mean this could be us right now, you know. 767 00:37:31,450 --> 00:37:33,260 There will be a time where that could happen. 768 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,300 I'm sure. How do people not know that? 769 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:39,160 Maybe this is not us. Well, that's why they say 770 00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:40,960 blockchain could be very important. 771 00:37:41,230 --> 00:37:44,480 Ohh this AI. Of authentic authentication. 772 00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:50,440 Ohh think like a I and like all these deep fake things is super 773 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:51,930 bullish for blockchain technology. 774 00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:56,820 Like you know to to prove that it's what these people well, 775 00:37:56,830 --> 00:37:59,800 you're out there saying that we don't have like enough like. 776 00:38:00,530 --> 00:38:03,250 You know, it's like, we're really clean, aren't we? 777 00:38:03,260 --> 00:38:05,560 Well, I've seen, I've seen. I tried to make that take and I 778 00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:07,760 was like, no one's going to believe it. 779 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,330 It's true though, like, look at the fake Drake song, which, by 780 00:38:12,340 --> 00:38:14,580 the way, ended up being nominated for the Grammy or 781 00:38:14,590 --> 00:38:15,940 whatever. But like. 782 00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:20,810 Look, I agree, blockchain is a very good as we know, provenance 783 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:26,060 can be increasingly important. So hopefully all content 784 00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:28,580 creation moves on to some sort of blockchain and then we can 785 00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:31,560 prove who created what. But I don't know if that is rose 786 00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,720 tinted. Like are we going to be able to 787 00:38:33,730 --> 00:38:36,660 put all content on? Is all Twitter content gonna 788 00:38:36,670 --> 00:38:37,960 suddenly just go onto a blockchain? 789 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:44,430 All Internet content, I think a lot of the verification of 790 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,570 content is gonna go like I I wouldn't be surprised if at some 791 00:38:46,580 --> 00:38:49,580 point you have to send like some more of the transaction to prove 792 00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:52,190 that we were the people actually reported on news or like talked 793 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,710 about what we talked about in the morning. 794 00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:56,200 I think that's what that's what people are saying for like that 795 00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:58,390 could be the ultimate bullish scenario for blockchain is that 796 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,310 it becomes like your digital signature for literally 797 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,770 everything that you write, so that people can prove that it's 798 00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:10,690 you. But the the scale to do that is 799 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,130 pretty wild and I just don't know if people will. 800 00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:18,590 But but look, I think, I think that is a reasonable bullish 801 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,910 scenario. But I feel it's the one that 802 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,330 happens in like 20 years rather than the one that happens in 803 00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:27,010 like 2 years. Yeah, maybe. 804 00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:30,190 Maybe I'm too, too, too like thinking ahead. 805 00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:34,720 It's not bearish, just appreciating the time that it 806 00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:37,160 takes for things. To change, let me see. 807 00:39:37,390 --> 00:39:39,600 I mean, the NHS is already here, you know, like you could already 808 00:39:39,610 --> 00:39:42,880 do a lot of those things using, yeah, NS and and and and 809 00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:44,190 whatnot. But anyway, so that's that's 810 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,540 happening in the world. Deep fakes, a lot of weird 811 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:48,020 stuff. And definitely be careful, like 812 00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:51,920 just for people, just always be careful and verify everything 813 00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:55,900 for now because it's important. Anyways, in other news and other 814 00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:59,590 news. In other news it came from blur 815 00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:05,400 blur Blur Blur updates. Ohh, umm, seems like Arca 816 00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:09,400 submitted a forum post to the Blur Governance forum to turn on 817 00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:12,260 the Blur fee switch. So when Blur was first released 818 00:40:12,330 --> 00:40:16,640 on 2/23, the Tokenomics outlined 180 day freeze on governance 819 00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:19,330 voting in a fee switch on the platform. 820 00:40:19,340 --> 00:40:22,800 And so that freeze now expired and we could potentially see a 821 00:40:22,810 --> 00:40:25,680 fee go up on Blur 1%, right? Because at this point like you 822 00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:28,650 think like how does a a platform like Blur make any money if 823 00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:30,840 there's zero fees actually on both ends? 824 00:40:30,850 --> 00:40:33,440 Pretty much. And so it seems like, you know, 825 00:40:33,450 --> 00:40:34,800 that was some bullish news on the token. 826 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,090 I don't really have a take on that. 827 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,890 I don't know if mando you have anything to say about it, but. 828 00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,740 I think, I think it's amazing. I think it's really great like 829 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:44,690 they they come in, they got rid of creative fees for every 830 00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:49,310 single project, they brought out a token which then everyone lost 831 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,450 a tonne of money farming and now in the ashes of the NFT market 832 00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:56,410 they want to now turn on a fee for themselves. 833 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:57,920 I I think it's, I think it's incredible. 834 00:41:03,570 --> 00:41:06,440 Is that why you asked me to put this as a topic this morning? 835 00:41:06,510 --> 00:41:10,020 You had that ready, didn't you? I just, I I really, I'm really, 836 00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:13,570 really happy now. Now now we can start paying. 837 00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:17,910 Let's look at the for everything that they've done blurs down 838 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,390 seven points this month it's up three points on the daily. 839 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,580 But that's like the governance is like a forum that was posted. 840 00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:26,270 It's not even like like the votes. 841 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:29,270 Someone posted a forum note. Like, you know, you could post 842 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,260 form note saying anything you want and then pop the corner if 843 00:41:32,270 --> 00:41:35,780 you want, I guess. But yeah, I'm like, I don't 844 00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:39,170 know, I I'm over the whole blur thing. 845 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:41,500 Like I was happy not to even cover the fact that Season 2 846 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:44,460 apparently has an ending. Like I'm just like I'm just 847 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:46,370 really over it all. Like it's just there's nothing 848 00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:47,790 to report. I feel like it's just. 849 00:41:50,190 --> 00:41:51,840 I don't know. They wanna taste. 850 00:41:52,290 --> 00:41:55,830 I don't wanna taste, Caroline. I don't. 851 00:41:56,430 --> 00:42:01,360 I just don't. I mean, I but when's the last 852 00:42:01,370 --> 00:42:05,570 time you guys born FD? We bought we bought a bunch of 853 00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:08,110 red guys yesterday. OK, this isn't count. 854 00:42:08,620 --> 00:42:10,850 Why doesn't it count? Because you have a, by the way, 855 00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:12,990 super bullish on that and that really respect you guys that I'm 856 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,230 bullish on you two doing that by the way. 857 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,720 I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to mean what you're doing 858 00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:19,330 for your community. I'm just saying like that's part 859 00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:21,040 of your buyback programme. You have to do it and you're 860 00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:22,350 killing it. You don't have to, but you want 861 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,700 to do it. But you know what I mean? 862 00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:26,250 Like, when's the last time you bought like an FDA outside of 863 00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:29,990 your own ecosystem? Yeah, I thought you gallery 864 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,250 stuff. An art piece 3 weeks ago I think 865 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:34,820 it was. The art is the only thing 866 00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:37,620 thriving right now. Yeah, from that from Gordon 867 00:42:37,830 --> 00:42:40,200 Gordon Burger. Ohh nice ohh nice. 868 00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:41,560 That's really cool. Gordon's. 869 00:42:41,570 --> 00:42:42,510 Hello nice. That's cool. 870 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,630 Yeah. I was just wondering cause I was 871 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,840 thinking like you know, after the keys and stuff and 872 00:42:45,850 --> 00:42:48,010 everything. By the way, like I haven't heard 873 00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:52,310 much French recently from Mando. Frontex to Going. 874 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:56,520 But it's it's, it's. It's slow, doesn't matter. 875 00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:59,060 And it's become increasingly about, I mean it was, it was 876 00:42:59,070 --> 00:43:01,780 going that way and that content was less important and then it 877 00:43:01,790 --> 00:43:05,070 just became like just became A33 game. 878 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:08,160 I still get DMS being like, oh, can we 3/3? 879 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:12,570 I was like. Doesn't feel like it's ready. 880 00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:16,650 All right, well, listen, we'll see. 881 00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:17,950 We'll see more of that.