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Yo-yo what up what up Good 
morning good morning GMG Tuesday

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April 23rd 2020 Look at that 
another beautiful day to have a 

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beautiful day. 
I got my Co host in the house 

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OSF Mando. 
How you guys feeling today? 

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Good. 
How you guys, how you guys 

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doing? 
Getting there, getting there. 

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Hi, Fernando. 
Doing great, man, doing great. 

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That's another beautiful day in 
Sonya Lisbon and. 

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Every day, man. 
It is it, you know, this is one 

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of my favorite times of the year
in Montreal, where the spring is

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starting to come. 
It's nice. 

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This today it's going to be 18° 
and sunny all day long in 

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Montreal. 
Celsius that is. 

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I don't know what it is in 
freedom units, but you guys can 

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do the conversion yourself, OK? 
It's probably in the high 60s or

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something. 
I don't know what it is, but 

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it's nice. 
So the sun is coming back to MTL

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Ovi. 
What are you drinking today? 

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It's a juice. 
Like beet juice? 

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No, it's black currant and 
apple. 

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Black What? 
Black currant and apple? 

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What's black currant? 
Black currant? 

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What's that Black currant is? 
You know, black currant, it's 

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the UK thing. 
I'm Googling it black. 

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It's like a cherry. 
It's like a like a blueberry 

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almost. 
It's more like a Raspberry. 

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It's like a black Raspberry. 
Interesting, I've never heard of

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that. 
No. 

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No Do blackcurrants grow in 
Canada? 

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Currants are small deciduous 
shrubs which are native to 

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Canada. 
Red currants range in size from 

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three to five feet and black 
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feet. 
US tall, taller than US. 

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Many of the color varieties 
growing commercial plantings of 

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or European variant interests to
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OK, wow cool. 
I'm gonna have to taste that. 

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That's a new Berry unlocked. 
Can't wait. 

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I I I genuinely did not know 
what a blackcurrant is until 

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now. 
It's spelled with an ACURRANT. 

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That is awesome baby. 
Do you know what a blackcurrant 

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is? 
I know it's a fruit. 

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Now she goes. 
Yes, the fruit. 

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Yeah. 
Well, I guess Vanessa knows. 

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She does know more about all 
this shit than I do. 

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Anyways, I just love that OV 
always has a different exotic, 

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like drink. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, it's like every time 
it's different. 

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Drake on the show, it's so 
funny. 

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I love that. 
Yeah. 

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Quack, quack GM. 
Everybody hope everybody's 

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having a good time. 
I did not know Bruce Wayne. 

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Xbi did not know what a black 
currant was. 

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I don't. 
Maybe I've had it before. 

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No, it's not. 
It's not the same thing. 

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It's not the same. 
See, What the fuck is a black 

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Curry? 
I ain't the only one. 

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It's not the same thing. 
It's not the same thing. 

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Look at that. 
Anyways, he's cheating on 

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mangoes. 
That's so funny. 

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No, that's Mandos. 
Mandos mangoes. 

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There's Mandos mangoes. 
Maybe we get a rectory black 

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currant taste. 
I don't know. 

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I don't know. 
It's like I feel like I just 

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discovered something. 
I feel like it's a very famous 

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ice cream flavor. 
No, it's not. 

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You guys ever had blackcurrant 
ice cream? 

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Very famous. 
What the fuck is talking about? 

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Like it's vanilla, bro, son. 
Come on. 

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Come on, cassies. 
What's your favorite fruits? 

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Everyone make sure you know 
what? 

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What's everyone's favorite fruit
or juice? 

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Now why don't you write to me at
the bottom right And while 

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you're at it, give it a show of 
a tweet. 

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Today we have 3, three, 'cause 
we didn't host Friday swing, 

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three robots, robot spins today,
and three instead of two on 

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Friday as well. 
So three people will have a 

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chance to win a crypto punk 
because last time we did those, 

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we rolled the crypto punk. 
You already know the vibes. 

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And I added four punks this 
time, 44444. 

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There's four punks today. 
So make sure all you have to do 

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'cause everyone says it's like, 
it's like people didn't realize 

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been doing this for two months. 
We're getting almost half, 

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$1,000,000 away and I'm still 
getting messages. 

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I listen every day and I don't 
know how to win. 

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It's very simple. 
You go to the bottom right of 

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the show every day, you retweet 
the Twitter space. 

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Just a purple box. 
That's it, just the purple box, 

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OK. 
And then you follow FOMO hour. 

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Simple. 
You should be following FOMO 

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hour. 
You follow Robit because I mean,

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Robit is literally the people 
making this happen. 

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They paid for the punk. 
They make all of this happen. 

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They sponsor our show, as you 
all know, and that's it. 

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And you pray pretty much you 
follow robot, you fall for my 

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hour, you retweet the space and 
you pray yeah favorite fruit 

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duck a Laurence crack. 
I love that yellow passion 

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fruit. 
Okay, so yeah, you guys, you 

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guys, you guys write your 
favorite fruit and make sure you

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drop a retweet and everything. 
Anyway, so that's show today, 

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today daily market report as 
usual. 

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We're looking we're looking 
good. 

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I mean Solana's decongested. 
I'm still congested. 

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So you know, Solana gonna fix 
faster than I did Love to see 

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that Paraguay making moves moves
to make BTC illegal tender. 

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Man, the South South America is 
really starting to like really 

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do the things properly led by El
Salvador. 

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You absolutely love to see it 
safe, open and and trading at 

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$2.8 billion. 
Guess what safe is actually our 

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guest today on the show. 
So we'll be joined by safe. 

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Yeah, safe like SAFE like these 
safe like I mean the entire rock

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video treasury has been on no 
such safe since day one. 

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So I'm actually excited to host 
to host them today. 

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And then obviously before that 
though, outs memes and dreams my

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new favorite segment instead of 
calling it left curve, which is 

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called all its memes and dreams.
You know, this manic key pop cat

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dog runes, fucking all this kind
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OPCAT VIP 4:20 There's a there's
a lot there's a lot of stuff 

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going on Melania Trump, she's 
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though. 
I I don't know, I I figured it's

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millennia with Melania, maybe 
drop like BTC runes or 

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something. 
I don't know. 

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But it seems like she's selected
NFTS and as usual, this show is 

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powered by fair side and film 
dot IO. 

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Check him out Fair side network 
and then film dot IO. 

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Anyways, anyways, anyways, 
anyways without further ado do 

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let's get right. 
GM yeah, it's been a good 24 

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hours. 
It looks like Bitcoin is back up

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at 67 K Well, it just touched 
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dipped a little bit lower now, 
but it's doing good. 

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Solana's kind of back up to like
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and even at 3250. 
So definitely a better day. 

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Looks like funding is low. 
We're starting to get inflows 

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again on the ETF. 
Just how are you feeling? 

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
In terms of like specific stuff 

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that's happened over the last 24
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There's been a lot more focus, I
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last 24 hours. 
So gold actually had its worst 

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day in two years yesterday. 
Gold's has been on a tear like 

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it's been on a crazy year for 
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I think it's already up about 
15%, which is quite big for for 

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a year in gold already. 
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lower. 
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today, tomorrow, the next few 
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So I think don't be surprised if
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to what's been going on in 
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It's just felt like that for the
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everyone's paying attention to 
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But crypto specific stuff, it 
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We have the we have the Hong 
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So the outflow for GB TCI think 
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since the other ETSFS were 
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So generally a more supportive 
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least for the ETFs. 
And yeah, just like random, 

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random headlines about how 
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different state entities are are
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around Bitcoin. 
So everything looks good to me. 

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Like we had a proper flush down 
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now we're bouncing off the back 
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And to me like funding is still 
negative or flat across the 

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board. 
Open interest is down. 

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Sentiment was was pretty bad 
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A lot of your favorite coins all
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that time period. 
And I think if we were going to 

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look back on that and see that 
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So I I think Bitcoin's heading 
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I like that. 
Let's go. 

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That's that's my boy. 
That's Doug Jesus right there. 

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I actually totally agree with 
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else, but I feel like it's going
to all time high as well. 

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Where was it 7370, three, 173, 
two, I think it's in, it's in 

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those ranges, right? 
Bitcoin just looks so fucking 

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strong man. 
I mean, it's so sexy to watch 

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honestly. 
Look at, look at, I mean it is, 

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it's outperformed pretty much 
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I think only like 6-5 or six 
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outperformed it so far this year
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You know, you look at the 
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like other old coin charts, 
Bitcoin still looks fucking. 

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I mean, look at this is the dip.
Yeah, it's this one. 

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You're literally talking about 
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This line right there. 
OK. 

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Then if you bring up E3, bring 
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It's a much, it's a much more 
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Right, I see Solana's worse I. 
Think if you see right and 

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that's the case in most old 
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coins, you go you had a bit of a
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Bitcoin just had like a healthy 
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it's ready to just prime to go 
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So I think I think this was a 
really good opportunity to get 

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to get into Bitcoin. 
Some of these old coin stories, 

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you had to believe there was 
like some FUD for pretty much 

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every single one of them. 
You know, Salon had the 

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congestion issues and it had 
meme coins all dying basically. 

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And then so I think you need 
those sort of stories for you to

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get back into things in a bull 
market. 

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Like you actually need the FUD, 
otherwise you're never going to 

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be able to buy these stories. 
You just have to have the 

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discipline to do it. 
So I think I think we're in a 

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good spot. 
I I really do. 

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OK, OK, well, look, I love to. 
I love to hear that. 

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Love to see that Bitcoin does 
look extremely strong. 

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I love to say just a little note
I'm getting from the back. 

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Yeah, the spaces are bugging. 
It's not on our hand. 

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It's actually on X's end. 
I know X was down half an hour 

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before the show. 
So first, I mean, it's still 

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showing 200 people on my end, 
but apparently people cannot 

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hear and, and so we'll have to, 
we'll have to, I mean, look, 

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it's. 
I see the bars, I see the audio 

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bars, but I don't know why 
people can't hear. 

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I can't check, check, check, 
check. 

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I can hear it from my other 
phone. 

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I don't know. 
I can. 

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I can hear it. 
Oh, Joe Maloney. 

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Look, it's a it's a Twitter 
spaces problem. 

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It's not, it's not really it's 
not really our fault. 

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We can't do anything. 
But make sure you already tweet 

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the space and and also just come
on video. 

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I mean, if you're on spaces, 
pivot to video. 

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I mean, this show is a video 
show. 

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Every day your boys are out here
doing the doing the thing and 

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and it's working out well. 
I'll show the broadcasting right

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now for people. 
So you can check out by the way,

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this episode one O 3 Damn, we 
crossed 100 episodes. 

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I missed episode 100. 
That's wild. 

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Episode one O 3. 
Look at that wonderful OV. 

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I mean, look, Peter Schiff punch
in the air right now. 

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Gold's down, Bitcoin's up. 
I mean, how do you feel about 

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the market? 
Yeah, I think I agree with 

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Michael. 
I think we've had some 

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consolidation. 
I kind of expected some more 

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consolidation, but it does feel 
like we want to rally here. 

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It's just it's just been 
frustrating because we have 

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generally seen these rallies get
many rallies get sold recently. 

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But yeah, Bitcoin can get above 
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this range. 
I think things are looking 

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looking kind of juicy. 
Do you also think we're headed 

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to all time high? 
Yeah, for sure, absolutely. 

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Like I think whether I mean I'm 
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this year, new all time high 
this year in I believe we'll see

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that in not only in Bitcoin but 
also in alts. 

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We haven't yet seen it in most 
alts. 

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The question is do we go on to 
hit an all time high from this 

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move higher? 
I'm not convinced, but I'm 

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definitely not complaining. 
Like I'm positioned for it. 

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But yeah, let's see. 
Like I'm not, you know, I'm just

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holding spot. 
I'm not really trading on 

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leverage or anything. 
So I feel like, I just feel like

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we have still have a bit more 
consolidation to come. 

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But you know, if we go, if we go
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straight line, I'm not going to 
be complaining. 

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Let's put it that way, yeah? 
No, we're still looking. 

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We're still, we're still looking
at H100K. 

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What? 
Yeah, I think, I think so, yeah.

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There's a long time left in H1, 
you know, we didn't, we didn't 

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get, didn't quite get the Q1 in,
but there's still a long H1 was 

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kind of like my more expected 
call. 

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Yeah, I think you're fine. 
Don't worry. 

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I think you called H1 on the 
record. 

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Don't worry about it. 
We don't have to say that you 

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corrected to Q1. 
I, I think we, we, we all, we 

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all booked our, our, our Q2 
predictions. 

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I have them written down. 
So we're, we're going to see 

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where we're headed. 
But it's definitely looking 

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good. 
When I look at at there was this

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post about corn glass and 
liquidation heat map 24 hours. 

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I mean everything everything 
that he has we're talking about 

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right is looking kind of full 
steam ahead. 

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You have Byzantine general 
saying that we're getting paid 

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to long Bitcoin 66 K. 
It's not that bad. 

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I love comments like this 
because person is you're betting

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getting paid to long the top. 
I I don't really think it's top 

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here. 
There's so many people calling 

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top, but it's pretty funny. 
I don't know how you guys feel 

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about that but we hear that so 
much. 

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Everyone likes to call top right
now but stuff like so many alts 

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are lagging. 
Too early. 

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Way too early to call the top. 
Like I just think there's so 

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much more to come and to happen 
to want to call top right now. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
It's, I mean, the rest of the 

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market is not like doing a mate 
that incredible, right. 

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It's it's not like everything 
else is, right. 

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It's like Mando was talking 
about Bitcoin dominance now 

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strong Bitcoin has been so 
that's why it's been strong. 

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And then you have, you were 
talking about this over 

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yesterday. 
So how were the inflows 

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yesterday? 
It looks like we're back on the 

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positive side. 
Yeah, 2 days of positive inflows

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in a row now. 
So they're not big numbers 

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still, they're still pretty 
small, but it's encouraging to 

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see, you know, if we get another
day of positive. 

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What I'm trying to look for here
is trends. 

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And like if we have, you know, 
we, we just went through like 6 

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days, about 5 days of outflows, 
which is not great, even though 

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there's numbers of small. 
So we get 5 days of inflows and 

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I think people start to get a 
bit excited again. 

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What this does tell me, there 
seems to be a coronation with 

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inflows and funding rates. 
When funding rates are high, you

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get a lot of ETF inflows because
people are putting on that basis

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trade and now that funding rates
are quite neutral, the inflow 

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numbers have paused quite a lot 
because that trade is less 

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attractive to put on The basis 
rate I'm talking about is, is 

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buying the Bitcoin ETF versus 
selling short futures and and 

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capturing the funding rate in 
between. 

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So that's another thing to keep 
an eye on. 

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I think like if funding rates do
go higher, it doesn't feel like 

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it feels like funding rates will
stay this way for a long time 

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because I think there is, you 
know, for every left demand of 

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levered long, I think someone is
now willing to take the other 

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side as a delta neutral trade. 
So I, I suspect we'll actually 

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see a long period of like very 
neutral funding rates for a long

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time. 
But I think people should not 

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confuse that with risk being 
low. 

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I think gross risk is very high.
Yeah, look, we'll see where that

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heads. 
But we're looking. 

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We're looking great. 
And then I read this article 

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today. 
It says Bitcoin's post having 

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demand to be five times greater 
than supply per bit, Fenix 

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estimates. 
What do you think, man? 

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It's not. 
It's looking. 

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Everything is looking pretty 
good here. 

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It's pretty doomer. 
Headlines last two weeks, but 

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I'm not gonna lie, this week's 
looking like the sun is shining 

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on Bitcoin. 
Yeah. 

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I just, I think this, this is 
maybe slightly, I don't know, I 

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don't think this is very 
sophisticated argument. 

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Yeah, that's what I would say. 
Like the supply of Bitcoin, 

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Yeah, you get supply, but that's
that's assuming that like 

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there's no Bitcoin in current 
circulation. 

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Right. 
Over 95% of all the bitcoins in 

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current circulation. 
So you have no concept of what 

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the supply of Bitcoin is to say 
like the new supply versus new 

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demand is. 
But like I don't know bitcoins, 

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most of the bitcoins 
circulating. 

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So I don't, I think that's kind 
of lazy analysis in my opinion. 

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Well, the other news, there's 
two other news I saw on on 

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Bitcoin here is BlackRock 
Bitcoin ETF is halfway setting 

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new record despite the most 
Bitcoin TF seen outflows 

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recently, BlackRock spot Bitcoin
TF has seen expressive inflows 

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And the other cool headline I 
saw this morning actually was 

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PayPal. 
PayPal wants to give green 

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Bitcoin minus extra Bitcoin 
rewards. 

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It's pretty cool. 
I mean, these guys, these guys 

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are pretty I actually met with 
the guy who leads the PayPal 

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stable coin in Dubai. 
They're they're pretty involved 

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on their end. 
So it's something you 

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absolutely. 
It's really funny. 

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That that whole narrative is 
just diet and crypto, or at 

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least like, do you remember when
NFTS everyone used to bash NFTS 

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for for like their environmental
damage? 

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Yeah, the green narrative. 
And remember Tezos? 

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Right. 
And now everyone's on Bitcoin, 

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which is proof of work and does 
way more like than ETH and no 

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one. 
Mentioned it, no one cares about

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Earth when price goes up. 
Word since ordinals happened and

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yet it was bashed like they used
to bash ETH NFTS like every 

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single day with it all these 
like so many different creators 

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that are you killing the 
environment and there's suddenly

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ordinals, which has been the 
biggest thing for NFTS for the 

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last, I don't know, six months. 
I haven't heard one person, one 

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person. 
Dude, because prices are going 

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up. 
You only complain about things 

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when prices are down man though.
Get with the program. 

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Get with the program. 
You're not. 

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Honest, I don't think, I think, 
you know, I think Bitcoin as a 

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financial system is far less, 
far more environmentally 

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friendly than the current 
financial system. 

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That being said, I just think 
it's funny that that narrative 

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just like no no, no one mentions
it with going crazy. 

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Nobody cares, dude. 
Nobody, nobody actually cares. 

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They care about their backs 
going up. 

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The whole like the whole Tesla 
narrative back then was a not 

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even going there, but that was a
whole other economy. 

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That was a whole other thing. 
Like all youth. 

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NFCS are bad for the 
environment. 

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Look at Tezos and where's Tezos 
now? 

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Like I mean, I think Tez Pole 
was top there. 

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I think it's it stopped a lot on
that front. 

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Anyways, looks like another 
country in Latin America wants 

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to make to legalize and 
recognize Bitcoin as a legal 

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tender. 
Paraguay. 

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When are we making a trip down 
there? 

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You guys ever been to El 
Salvador or Paraguay? 

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I feel like Mando's been. 
I mean, I've seen Mando's 

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passport. 
That shit has that shit has 

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stamps out the way. 
What have I done? 

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Hold on. 
What's going on? 

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I clicked the wrong button. 
Mando. 

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I mean, you, you've you've been 
around the world. 

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I mean, have you been to 
Paraguay or El Salvador? 

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They're nowhere near each other,
just to be clear, but are you? 

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Still near each other. 
You've been to Equas 2 falls, 

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right? 
I have, yes. 

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Just on the famously on the 
border of Paraguay in Argentina.

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It's on the border of the mall. 
So yeah, look, I, I've, I've not

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been to Paraguay. 
I've been very near to Paraguay.

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I wouldn't say Paraguay is. 
I don't even know the size of 

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its economy. 
How big is the size of 

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Paraguay's economy? 
Paraguay GDP $41.72 billion. 

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All right, that is, that is very
small in in global. 

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I mean, I think, I think like 
the US. 

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Has the infancy worth more than 
that once? 

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The US is giving more money than
this the Ukraine just last week.

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Yeah, exactly. 
So I think it's it's more it 

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signals that it's, you know, 
another economy that may be 

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looking to do it. 
Argentina obviously did it more 

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recent move to do something 
quite similar, at least be more 

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crypto friendly more recently. 
South America does seem like a 

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bit of a, you know, a hotbed 
for, for for crypto for sure. 

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Yeah, I mean, you actually love 
to see that. 

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Look, if they make the, I know 
you know these crypto, I meant 

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first they'll live anywhere as 
long as they're they're set with

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their crypto. 
So look, it looks like these 

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countries are kind of like 
gambling on that, right from El 

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Salvador, we reported last time 
we're giving like 5000 visas 

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away. 
So people want to come build 

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there, etcetera, etcetera, 
etcetera, go. 

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So there's a lot of love that 
going on there. 

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And then on the crypto side, I 
think, I think that's mostly 

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like most of what we've seen 
aside from the fact that it 

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looks like Solana's fully fixed,
right? 

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Like I saw a Mert post this 
morning saying that, you know, 

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it took ten days to complete fix
the congestion, which is a good 

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start. 
Obviously, there's some work to 

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do, but seems like everything's 
back to business, back to normal

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over there, right? 
Yeah, I don't know what exactly 

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they did either. 
They seem to have fixed. 

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It Oh, you did it. 
I think they blew on the 

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cartridge. 
They, I think Raj. 

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Sobe was like flooding member of
like the the fix that they were 

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using, like it was like a very 
centralized fix. 

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I don't think, I don't think I'm
really fighting that. 

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Solana is like not that 
centralized, but but the yeah, 

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they fixed it for the time. 
Being but that's the but this is

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the future of France. 
The dev net went down last week,

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the main net went down a month 
ago, and you've had the issues 

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with congestion. 
The last couple months have been

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a little bit tough for the 
Solana tech story, I would say. 

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But that's why it was a great 
buying opportunity, because you 

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can believe that they they're 
going to fix it and you're not 

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fudding it at 1:15, you're 
buying at 1:15. 

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So it's fighting at 1:15. 
It's crazy bro. 

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Did did any of you two manage to
catch that? 

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That like sharp dip. 
No, some of it, yeah. 

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You got some. 
I wasn't. 

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I was away, so I listened to my 
rule actually this time around 

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of not touching anything while 
I'm away. 

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So that looked good. 
Look, our our, our, our. 

450
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,680
Anyways, so anyways, that's 
that's where the majors moving 

451
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,440
on to alt memes and dreams. 
Well, the duck still quacks, so 

452
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:20,960
that's good. 
That's that's looking good for 

453
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,640
sure. 
I love to see what I'm saying. 

454
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,440
Amanda, what are you? 
Are you learning anything? 

455
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,880
What are like some of the latest
learnings from Being Solana's 

456
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,840
hottest Need Point devs? 
Oh, you know, this is so much 

457
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,640
shit to do, man. 
Like honestly, you realize that 

458
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,640
there's actually quite a lot to 
do for this sort of stuff in 

459
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,120
terms of like getting all the 
listings, getting it all, like 

460
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,320
all channels done. 
Force your hand like do do 

461
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,440
exchanges try to force your hand
and stuff like how does. 

462
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,720
This work, dude, everyone, 
everyone wants a little 

463
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800
kickback. 
You know, everyone, everyone 

464
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,600
wants a little like, oh, can you
pay us this just to like we have

465
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,560
an administration fee Like it's 
just like. 

466
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:57,200
Is that how it works? 
Do they? 

467
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,000
Do you regret burning like 15% 
of the supply they want? 

468
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,280
Like could that have gone come 
in handy? 

469
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Of course, like the only, the 
only, the only supply I've given

470
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960
without the gift exchanges is 
that which I have bought. 

471
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,040
So yeah, it's, it's been, it's 
been definitely my own back. 

472
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,160
But like there's a bit of that, 
but I don't know, it's fun. 

473
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,200
It's it's still getting fun. 
Like I think the this has been 

474
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,680
still like, I'm still super 
bullish on this thing, so. 

475
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,360
I I love that look, as long as 
you're bullish, we're bullish, 

476
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,560
right OV? 
I like, I like having, you know,

477
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,280
being able to like direct it I. 
Mean you you look like you're 

478
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,000
having the time of your life, 
like I just honestly, you look 

479
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,080
like you're having in my in run 
from like that first week. 

480
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,080
I remember how like stressed out
you were and how like cheesy 

481
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,360
were by with it. 
You look like really like not 

482
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,640
great, and that looks like 
everything's just and you look 

483
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,480
like you're thriving. 
I'm seeing like every morning I 

484
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,920
wake up, I see, I see the posts,
I see posts in Chinese and shit 

485
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,200
and I'm just loving it. 
A weird one like like so this. 

486
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,880
This is something that's 
happened over the last 20 for 

487
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800
hours and meme coins is that a 
lot of Chinese coins pump. 

488
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040
Let's talk about that right. 
So because that was going to be 

489
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,480
one of the topics today for all 
its memes and dreams segment. 

490
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,520
We saw multiple them Bao mana 
key. 

491
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,280
I've none of those. 
Actually fun fact, there was a 

492
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,160
point in time where I was top 
5000 of Bao. 

493
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080
That was a point in time. 
Definitely not anymore. 

494
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320
And I wish after I saw a chart 
yesterday. 

495
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,560
So what was going on like what 
was what is that? 

496
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,400
Is that some narrative like 
people on Twitter trying to push

497
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,400
up or is this like, is there 
like, 'cause I saw, I saw the 

498
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,000
Maniki launch, which was 
yesterday or something. 

499
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,320
Didn't did like $230 million 
volume. 

500
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,920
There you go. 
Tyler had posted about it. 

501
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,120
So Maniki saw staggering $230 
million in volume in his first 

502
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,320
day of training. 
That's more than the next 10th 

503
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,440
of a lot on leaders saw combined
on a pretty high volume day. 

504
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,520
It's currently at $110 million 
in climbing. 

505
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,120
Did you guys catch any of this 
or what? 

506
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,600
So I I didn't, it just kind of 
popped off. 

507
00:24:53,960 --> 00:25:02,040
I actually asked, I asked like 
the the guy who helps the Rogue 

508
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,360
Radio China team, he also helps 
our telegram and he said that it

509
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,160
didn't come from China, it came 
from South Korea. 

510
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560
He was like the influencer that 
said like help lead. 

511
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,200
This was actually like a South 
Korean influencer that helped 

512
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Bush it that one thought it was 
China and he was like, yeah, I 

513
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,760
don't know. 
Which just kind of tells you 

514
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,200
that we're probably, we're 
probably just over generalizing 

515
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,000
here, but it definitely, 
definitely did come. 

516
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,240
And a bunch of there are like a 
a few different coins here which

517
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,480
are popular in China, which 
which moves pretty aggressively.

518
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,080
But yeah, Maneki, maneki. 
Yeah, it's so yow Beaver. 

519
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,840
There's a few of those that are 
like it's. 

520
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480
Even like Popcat, right? 
Popcat's the is is super popular

521
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,560
in China. 
So it's that, yeah, like I guess

522
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,560
like the number one meme in in 
China, like it's it's like 

523
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,360
always at the number one of all 
the different. 

524
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,120
That's why that popped. 
I had a bag. 

525
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,640
I had a bag of pop at some 
point. 

526
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,920
I mean, look at that comeback. 
It's four ends from the lows. 

527
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,520
Look at this. 
How crazy this part is. 

528
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,600
Look how crazy this is. 
So that's got a big channel 

529
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,880
community knob cats well did 
well. 

530
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,160
So like a bunch of those China? 
Which cat is on a billion first?

531
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,080
Can we just talk about that for 
a second, lads? 

532
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,440
Like there's so many cats. 
I feel like they're like almost 

533
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,640
eating off of each other's meals
at this point. 

534
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Like which cat's going on a 
billion first? 

535
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840
There are a lot of cats, right? 
I don't really know. 

536
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,880
I don't. 
I'm not really a cat guy so. 

537
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,280
You won't be a cat guy. 
There's scary little bunch of 

538
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,200
stray cats in Dubai, bro. 
There was one of them that came 

539
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,040
up to me. 
He looked at me weird. 

540
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Bro, I thought that shit was 
going to fucking jump on me and 

541
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,000
rip my face off. 
I don't know. 

542
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,080
I. 
Think you either have MEW right 

543
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,960
which is like the ship Cabal. 
You have Popcap which is Asian. 

544
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Another cabal. 
Cabal you have, I guess there 

545
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,440
was some other ones right there 
was like keyboard cat which 

546
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,200
never really that was like. 
A cobs is dead as well. 

547
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,720
The base mean that people tried 
to make happen. 

548
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,840
You have the knob. 
I love the fucking knob knob. 

549
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,560
I don't have any left but like I
really like that meme. 

550
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,400
That's a good team in my 
opinion. 

551
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Like I think they're they're 
like they're actually funny and 

552
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,200
the artist like produces content
every single day. 

553
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,960
So I like knob out of all the 
cats, although it's easily the 

554
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,800
lowest out of all those cats. 
It does. 

555
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,240
It feels like there was a cabal 
at the start and then it got 

556
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,000
decorated and then I don't 
really know where it is right 

557
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,800
now, but it's. 
Back up pretty it's, it's back 

558
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,320
up pretty strongly. 
I mean it was down to the 30s as

559
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,440
I'm active to say $2,000,000. 
On the quality of the content, I

560
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,840
would say that that's my 
favorite one. 

561
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Yeah, the content's pretty good.
I mean, OV shit coin con masar. 

562
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040
You know, you have one of the 
highest feel like PNL's in this 

563
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,280
game. 
What's your favorite cat? 

564
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,360
Don't like any of the cats they 
all they all of them feel. 

565
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,080
A bit forced, I mean. 
You're, you're still, I mean. 

566
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,440
It's yeah. 
This is a cat coin. 

567
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,200
I have a dilemma with mug if it 
counts as a cat coin or not no. 

568
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,840
A cat coin. 
It is a joke. 

569
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,080
It's. 
I think it's not necessarily AI,

570
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,120
don't think it's viewed as a cat
coin. 

571
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:04,000
It's not as like running of the 
cat coins, but it is a cat. 

572
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,880
The the logo is a cat, so it's a
joy cat. 

573
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,760
I think it's way better than all
the other cat coins. 

574
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,360
My problem with all the cat 
coins is they just none of them 

575
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,040
feel natural. 
They all feel forced. 

576
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,880
They're all like, oh, cat coin, 
let's make a cat coin. 

577
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800
Let's win the cat coin game. 
Like there isn't anything that 

578
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,720
feels like fun or natural or 
organic is the wrong word 

579
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,640
because I'm sure some of these 
do have organic volumes and and 

580
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,240
communities, but I don't know 
for meme coins, it's just like 

581
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,840
for me, it's like. 
It's like 75. 

582
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Percent of it is is about the 
vibe and like, do you find it 

583
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,000
funny or do you find it 
relatable or do you? 

584
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,600
And if I don't connect with 
something, then I just don't 

585
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,400
really get involved in it. 
And that doesn't mean things I 

586
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,040
don't connect with don't do 
well, because I'm sure there's 

587
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440
plenty of things that will end 
up doing well, but I just 

588
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,840
personally haven't found a cat 
coin that to me feels 

589
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,720
interesting or organic or funny.
Like, you know, I think the epic

590
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,920
duck stuff is like a billion 
tons funnier than any other. 

591
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080
It is. 
I mean, that's hilarious. 

592
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,080
Maybe I'm biased, but it. 
Is it actually makes me laugh 

593
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440
even like a a knob cat you. 
Should follow it. 

594
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,040
It's actually funny. 
Yeah, I, I, I have. 

595
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,160
To give him credits as well. 
And this is not coming from a 

596
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,400
bag bias perspective because 
there is no bag I love you. 

597
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,880
They're they all they comment on
their all my shit and I have to 

598
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360
say it is hilarious. 
It is. 

599
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
I took the trade a couple times.
I was pretty early to it at some

600
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,640
point because I saw Beanie 
pumping his bag. 

601
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,400
So I bought in 1015 million when
I was in Hong Kong last month. 

602
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440
But it's, I don't know it is. 
It is very hard to make OSF 

603
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,760
laugh though. 
I mean, just gonna see. 

604
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,200
He didn't. 
He didn't even react to the 

605
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,080
crypto punk win last week. 
Did you see that man? 

606
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Don't believe in emotions. 
What the fuck? 

607
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Bro OV's child is about to be 
born soon and like he's going to

608
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,000
be born. 
OV's going to be like. 

609
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,080
His wife's going to be crying. 
Like, Oh my God, my baby girl. 

610
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,120
And then he's going to be like, 
it's. 

611
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Literally going to be me stoic. 
As well. 

612
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Yeah, it's literally going to be
me. 

613
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
He cares about RLD. 
Sales that's why someone wrote 

614
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000
that he's a little boy more 
rational when those happen I 

615
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040
mean a little bit a tiny bit 
yeah actually, you know what 

616
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,040
that's not a bad idea. 
I mean Mandos Logan you is is is

617
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,720
is saying we should do collab 
with nub Could be fun. 

618
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,760
Like cross pollination of meme 
coins and brands like that. 

619
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,440
They do post under my, my, my 
post a lot. 

620
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360
And even under the the duck, I 
think there's a there's there's 

621
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
like an unwritten alliance 
between us two that we actually 

622
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,920
put out OK content versus just 
like some random, well, it 

623
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,120
reminds me of like Mog. 
With and like and the puppets 

624
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,040
when they they were like, it was
a lot of social interactions 

625
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,000
like that. 
Like I can just feel it. 

626
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120
I'm actually in one of the knob 
coin like groups as well. 

627
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,720
So I. 
Love that let's. 

628
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,000
Go, let's go. 
That's my that I was always 

629
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600
curious, you know, do meme coin 
dev like fuck with one another, 

630
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,400
you know, because I know at some
point that the ducks were 

631
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,120
fighting on the timeline. 
You know, I have a bigger duck. 

632
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,200
They. 
Were just fighting with us, but 

633
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,240
yeah, it's always like. 
Definitely a fan. 

634
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,120
Of Knob cat. 
Knob Cat holders by duck. 

635
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,960
There you go. 
There you go, and. 

636
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,800
Vice versa. 
This is so funny. 

637
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360
This is I like meme coin dev. 
You guys should create a meme 

638
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,280
coin dev alliance. 
Alliance, Yeah. 

639
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,720
And the alliance of of. 
All the meme coins that are 

640
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,320
like, you know, affected just 
like do a. 

641
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Token merger. 
What? 

642
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,160
One stage token merger, Yeah, I 
mean. 

643
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,560
You know, maybe Epic could 
acquire Nope. 

644
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,520
You know, I don't know, in this 
community under one umbrella 

645
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880
company, you know, where Mando's
taking this very seriously, Like

646
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480
he's already talking M and as 
he's already talking alliances, 

647
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,880
he's already talking 
partnerships. 

648
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000
And this is crazy. 
Like someone asked me and do I 

649
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,960
like, yo, how serious is Mando 
about this thing? 

650
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,040
I'm saying go say bro Mando's as
committed to epic duck than I am

651
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,800
to rug radio shit. 
They were like. 

652
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Oh my God, that's actually it's 
definitely. 

653
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,600
It's definitely something I'm 
spending quite a bit of time on,

654
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,240
on a date which I mean mando. 
You said that the biggest 

655
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,080
narrative this this this cycle's
going to be meme coins. 

656
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640
And then there's this tweet that
was part of our topics today 

657
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,120
that goes from trading vapors, 
saying meme coins are becoming a

658
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,520
black hole you cannot ignore at 
this point. 

659
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Simple and on chain ponzies more
sustainable than pull pull two 

660
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
farms more liquid and FTS safer 
than D5. 

661
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,760
So no smart contract risk, no 
inflation or insiders dumping on

662
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,960
you via SAFT. 
I mean they yeah, I mean I don't

663
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320
know about that one. 
Like low flow with high FDV new 

664
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,160
coins. 
This is true. 

665
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,880
Better odds of winning than IRL 
lottery and sport or sports 

666
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,000
betting facts. 
I mean, casinos are bleeding 

667
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,920
right now when it comes because 
now now it's a bull market 

668
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,400
saying they're absorbing 
liquidity and mindshare from all

669
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,400
these venues and the skill some 
of them will reach the cycle be 

670
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400
expectations. 
My prediction is that we'll see 

671
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,720
at least three meme coins above 
$100 billion market cap by the 

672
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560
cycle top. 
You can bookmark this. 

673
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
I mean, what are your thoughts 
on this Mando because you had 

674
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680
similar comments not like this, 
but you really make quite a 

675
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,080
statement on meme coin the other
day. 

676
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,920
I think meme coin will be the. 
Biggest sector over the over the

677
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,200
medium term, like alongside 
probably L ones I've seen other 

678
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
sectors I think can challenge 
them over over the long term. 

679
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,440
I think they're going to be 
bigger than than most others. 

680
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,040
If you don't count stable coins 
because I think stable coins is 

681
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,200
like its own sector, but I think
they'll be bigger than D5 coins.

682
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,720
I think it'll be bigger than AI 
coins. 

683
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,360
If it'll be bigger than than 
social fi or any of these other 

684
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,680
like sub categories. 
I think meme coins will be the 

685
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,240
biggest Beanie and beanie put 
out an interesting post over the

686
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,480
last 24 hours where he was like,
I don't I don't want. 

687
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,400
I don't get why people say that 
Bitcoin is not a meme coin. 

688
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,760
Bitcoin is a. 
Meme coin, right? 

689
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,320
A coin was created to stick it 
to the financial world as AI 

690
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,640
think, he said. 
Why do bit bitcoiners get so mad

691
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000
when you call it a meme? 
I mean, it's literally a meme by

692
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160
definition. 
What makes it a good mean is the

693
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800
altruistic actions of its 
founder and the fair launch and 

694
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,160
distribution. 
But it's still a meme. 

695
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,760
You can write books about why 
it's not, but it still is. 

696
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600
I agree with that a lot. 
Like a lot. 

697
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000
Yes, it was original. 
So like the revolutionary bit is

698
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,720
a decentralized Ledger, but the 
actual value of that Ledger is a

699
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,440
meme. 
There's nothing intrinsic about 

700
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,000
it. 
There's nothing intrinsic about 

701
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,640
that. 
So I, I, you could argue that a 

702
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,600
lot of this space is just mean. 
You're creating, you're creating

703
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,400
currencies out of nothing, 
right? 

704
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,120
You're speed running value, 
value creation of currencies. 

705
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Like, why would I, why would you
value this if I'm transferring 

706
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,440
it to you? 
The only reason for that, 

707
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,719
originally it was gold and then 
we moved away from gold as the 

708
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,760
standard. 
So now we all just have faith 

709
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,760
that the dollar is worth the 
dollar, the pound is worth the 

710
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920
pound. 
There is nothing backing up Fiat

711
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,600
currencies. 
They are arguably also memes. 

712
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960
And I think meme coins have just
become a speed running of that, 

713
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,120
that exact same logic. 
Like you can, you can, You Can 

714
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,639
Dance around, but the logic is 
actually the same. 

715
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,199
So I, I, I think meme coins as a
sector, arguably you could say 

716
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,400
they're already the biggest 
sector in, in crypto because 

717
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,239
Bitcoin is a meme. 
And that's, that's what people 

718
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,639
throw at us as anyway, right? 
Like you had Jamie Dimon coming 

719
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,680
on last week being like, it's a 
Ponzi, right? 

720
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,320
It is a meme. 
We all have to believe it's 

721
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,240
worth something and there's 
nothing intrinsically valuable 

722
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,400
about it. 
He's, he's right about that. 

723
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,840
But that doesn't mean it's not 
valuable. 

724
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,680
That just means like, that's it.
That's him basically coming on 

725
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,840
and saying, Hey, the dollar is a
Ponzi, which it is, but it's 

726
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,560
printing more and more and more 
and more and more. 

727
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,840
There's no intrinsic value to 
it. 

728
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,600
We all just have to believe it 
has value, right? 

729
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:25,480
That's how currencies work. 
So yeah, I'm a, I'm a. 

730
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,120
Believer in. 
Meme coins having value I I 

731
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,760
would argue that Bitcoin is the 
original OG meme coin and that 

732
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,520
everything else as well in this 
space as a as a form of 

733
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160
exchange, which I believe is 
like the best use case for 

734
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,120
crypto is a we talked about that
on my paddle and. 

735
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,280
In in Dubai where like this guy 
was like, well, meme coins. 

736
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,360
Like Bitcoin is a meme, right? 
It was used to stick to the man 

737
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,840
originally. 
I mean, oh, do you think Bitcoin

738
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,680
is a meme coin? 
Yeah, it's the OG. 

739
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,800
Meme coin. 
It's literally the OG meme coin.

740
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,040
I love that. 
Do you think meme coins will be 

741
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,280
the biggest sector in crypto? 
Not counting L ones and like and

742
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
stable coins I still think. 
I mean, I don't know if they 

743
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,360
will become the biggest sector, 
but I still think we've seen 

744
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,680
some meme coin action this year.
But I don't think we've seen the

745
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,680
full extent of it really. 
I think we will see some crazy 

746
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,280
stuff this year. 
I still got a feeling that we 

747
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,240
will. 
Yeah. 

748
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:16,720
All right. 
Well. 

749
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,400
We will, we definitely will. 
And in other news, I mean, if I 

750
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,040
keep going on the on the old 
stuff you have, I mean, what do 

751
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,320
we have? 
We have on the NFT side, which 

752
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,440
is really it was a big punk 
hoodie sale, sick the choker 

753
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,400
hoodie sick punk sale $600,000. 
So love to see that as punks 

754
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,720
grind lower guys. 
I don't know if you guys saw, 

755
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,160
but punks floor is sub 40 ETH 
now you're looking at 30 

756
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,360
seventies, I think for a floor 
punk at the moment. 

757
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,920
And I've I I've I haven't seen 
that many lists in a long times.

758
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,720
1044. 
It was like 8 to it was like 809

759
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,800
hundred for the longest time. 
So a lot of punks are starting 

760
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,280
to to to list. 
Maybe a lot of people are gonna 

761
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,280
be more liquid for stuff that 
you guys are talking about right

762
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,360
now or runes, etcetera, 
etcetera, etcetera. 

763
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,800
So there's that. 
And then on the runes stuff, the

764
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,240
latest news was really Magic 
Eden, right? 

765
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,560
Like you're 3 days in. 
Everybody's saying runes are 

766
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,880
impossible to use. 
They are. 

767
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,880
But however, it seems like, you 
know, Magic Eden launched A 

768
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,400
runes marketplace again, Magic 
Eden just on top of it. 

769
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,560
When it comes to big, I think 
Magic Eden is like responsible 

770
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,640
for most of the NFC volumes at 
the moment. 

771
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,080
They're on top of it. 
So if you go look at runes here,

772
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,800
you can lead just like buy, sell
and trade runes on on ME, which 

773
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,240
is pretty cool if you ask me. 
So looks like that's that 

774
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,400
experience is going to get 
easier and easier. 

775
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,360
Look, you can see by spending. 
You can see everything. 

776
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,560
There's going to be a swap 
function. 

777
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,760
So I guess like sort of like a 
unit swap or Jupiter, like a dex

778
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,840
for ruins. 
And I know for a fact that ton 

779
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,320
of dexes are on the way out. 
So that that's that's pretty 

780
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,240
much still going on. 
Obviously still have to wait for

781
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,720
a bit. 
But when it comes to volumes 

782
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:57,120
here, we're looking at still 
RSIC making being number one in 

783
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,080
terms of volumes. 
Toshi Nakamoto coin, which 

784
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,000
obviously doing extremely well. 
That Bitcoin pepper matrix, I 

785
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000
think it's just a meme coin, 
right? 

786
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,680
And this was the first room like
the ZZZ Figgy or whatever think 

787
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,920
this was the first rune ever. 
So there's that. 

788
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,160
There's a bunch of them, 
however, so obviously you got to

789
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,760
still be aware. 
And I would, I would just be 

790
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,640
patient here. 
Personally speaking, I ain't 

791
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,840
doing shit. 
I'm just waiting. 

792
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
And the big news on the Bitcoin 
side yesterday was actually 

793
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,880
Ooty, Ooty again, introducing 
VIP 420 formal Bitcoin 

794
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,040
improvement proposal for OPCAT. 
It's a historic day today. 

795
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,440
After a long wait, the OPCAP 
proposal formally received the 

796
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,040
VIP number Meet VIP 420. 
VIP 420 enables covenants on 

797
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,480
Bitcoin, allowing for smart 
contracts, secure bridges on 

798
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,160
chain trading, ZK proof 
verifications, and more. 

799
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,600
I mean, look boys, it looks like
Odie's going to be a billionaire

800
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,280
by the end of the cycle. 
You know, maybe the first cat to

801
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,120
a billion is actually on 
Bitcoin. 

802
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,360
It's quantum cats this entire 
time. 

803
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,800
I don't know what you guys think
about that, but you know, 

804
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,480
everyone's talking about cats. 
Looks like that's the cat that's

805
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,640
doing the best right now. 
So it's very interesting what 

806
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,560
they're doing. 
I think it's really fun that 

807
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,200
they managed to secure VIP 420 
and and obviously big kudos to 

808
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,000
to UDI and team on that front 
because they're absolutely 

809
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,560
fucking crushing it on Bitcoin 
anyways.

