1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Yo-yo, yo, what up? What up? 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:12,560 Good morning, good morning. GMG Monday, baby. 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Fuck back. April 14th, 2025. 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,680 But I forgot another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,360 I got my coast in the house. Oh God, I missed you guys though 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,040 I was physically with Mando yesterday hanging out in the 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,520 street of Portugal. But I still miss you guys on the 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,680 show. Tyler Mando, good morning. 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,680 How you guys doing today? Yeah, we missed you man. 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,200 You Tyler, have like a chilled out show when you're not here. 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,640 I know I was watching it's. Nice. 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,320 This is the energy, but it but it's it's kind of it's chilled. 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,960 We speak a lot about, we speak a lot about Tyler's obscure bags, 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,720 basically. Yeah, So I enjoy it quite. 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,600 Quite I I I I've been watching all the clips they're nice shout 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,640 out to intern they're good. You know, the show is always 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,440 informative, right? Like whenever I can, if I'm on 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 the road and I'm not there, I try to tune in on audio or 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,960 something. It's always good. 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,240 You know, we, we run a good show. 21 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,840 We, we do run a good show. We do run a good show. 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,240 It's, it's always really good. Tyler, how you doing? 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,200 I'm doing well. Yeah, we missed you last week 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,360 and I got some FOMO watching your your videos as you guys 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,760 just strolling through the, the, the sunny Portuguese coast 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,720 yesterday. Oh yeah, that looked that looked 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,280 quite nice. But it it was a nice weekend. 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,960 I mean that was. Yeah, go ahead. 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,920 No, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry. 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,360 It was a lag. Oh, folks may not know this, but 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,720 tomorrow is my birthday. I've got a tax day birthday so 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,400 we we did a little early celebrating this past weekend so 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,720 it was nice. Perfect stimulated the local. 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,000 They come as well. 90K for Tyler's birthday. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,640 That's that. That's what we want. 90K for 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Tyler's birthday. You know, I was probably some 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,000 sun, but you know, it's raining. I don't know. 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,600 Mando. Can't I? 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,680 I feel like Mando may have scammed me and it's going to be. 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,520 Raining a little bit this this week. 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,880 I saw that today. It's going to get it's going to 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,160 be mixed. It's going to. 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Be mixed meadows gammy. This is a this is a Canary labs 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,680 special here, you know, but but but I got to see Mendo's office 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Tyler. I got to see his little little 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Dan. It's it's nice. 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,040 It's cute. He he definitely has a a 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,360 beautiful place. Did you know Manda like a liter, 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,400 a 1.5 liter bottle of Agua de Nacente? 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:51,240 So that good shit it's $0.25 here That's amazing how much you 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,800 pay for water in America, Tyler. This shit is cheap. 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,640 It's. Probably like $5. 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,160 Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly what you pay. 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,760 I was telling Vanessa last night I bought 2 bottles. 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,000 She was like, it's $0.57. I'm like babe $0.50 you're going 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,360 to tip the cash here. This is not right. 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Yeah, anyway, this is an early, early life in in Portugal. 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Yeah. Oh yeah, We had a you guys watch 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,240 the Masters. What an end. 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Well, I think we should start with that. 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,000 I think we should start with that, Rory. 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Almost. Rory did it. 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,280 But. Then never seen a man cry so 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,600 much actually. I was crying, dude, it was. 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Straight like but yeah cool to see him win. 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,960 I love Master's weekend it. Wasn't it? 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Yeah, Tyler, you followed. You followed the Meister's 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,960 quest. You followed it quite closely, 69 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,800 huh? Yes, had a little action on 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,080 DraftKings. Didn't didn't have any success 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,360 with it. I did think Roy would win, but I 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,840 didn't have many of the other any other horses in the race as 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,960 well. But I didn't realize he was the 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,640 just the second in the last 50 years to get the Grand Slam. 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,160 So I got that is a really huge deal. 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Yeah. Oh, wow. 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 OK, yeah. So I was clearly a monkey off 78 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,079 his back. I think a lot of people were 79 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:17,839 rooting for him too. So it was a fun ending. 80 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,240 Yeah. Yeah, that was a that was a, 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,360 that was a tight end and that was a close end at the end. 82 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,760 I when he missed that three footer, holy shit, man, I, I was 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,400 sick to my stomach. I was like, I was like, no way, 84 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,280 bro, there's no way he's going to do that. 85 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,360 But he did it and, and, and, and I was good. 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,440 I, I feel like I would have cried as much as well if that 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,200 was me. It's like 14 years trying to win 88 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,320 this fucking Augusta National, you know. 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,640 So that was, that was beautiful weekend. 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,440 I think it was a myriad. If you cooked a Myriad, let me 91 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,320 know. Yeah, Farooq. 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 We'll be doing the Rory celebration when Pups gets back 93 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,440 to All Time High. We're on the move, guys. 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,200 You said see Pups. Pups's move. 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,600 Guys, watch this. Amanda, wait. 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,720 Hold. On Let's have a seat. 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,440 Hang on. That FARC, well, FARC wins at 98 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,360 $900 million. But what's pups at? 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,160 Let's let me check real quick before we get to our show. 100 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:24,600 24,000,000 it's up 56% in the week, really about that. 101 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,120 This shows you how. Well, fuck out. 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,120 Let's go pups go UPS. Anyways, sit down the show 103 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,320 today. Today someone got rinse 150K 104 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,680 points on myriad. Oh well, skill issue. 105 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,000 Sorry, no. Today on the show, we're going 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,120 to go market report. God, I missed this market 107 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,200 report. Let's see what's up. 108 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 We're looking good. We're looking green, baby, even 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,880 though Trump almost rubbed us yesterday with the Truth Social 110 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,160 post. I'm sure we'll talk about that. 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,840 But we're looking good today. We're looking good this morning. 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,880 We got we got Tyler's top 100. I mean, there's a lot going on 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,600 in the space right now. So I'm sure Tyler has a lot to 114 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:04,040 to discuss. And as usual, I'm assuming you 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,400 know, I know it wasn't there for the last two weeks. 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,640 I'm assuming we still have the same sponsors, right, because I 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,520 didn't get the memo. If not, but I'm assuming do the 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,600 same. This show is powered by Galaxy. 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Galaxy is the web three platform empowering creators and brands 120 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,480 to build a stopo communities with full ownership and 121 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,280 independence. Trust about icons like Donald 122 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:22,600 Trump, Steve Aoki, Mike Tyson and the NBA shaping together the 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,720 future of engagement, but also also wallet connect wallet 124 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,680 connect is the connectivity network shaping the future of on 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,440 chin UX. If you've connected to Web 3 126 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,320 app, you've seen wallet connect that blue logo. 127 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,520 It's everywhere. And I kind of trust in crypto as 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,880 recognizable as visa at checkout. 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,760 What to learn more, follow wallet connect on X and 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,920 telegram. Stay ahead of what's next. 131 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,360 But also I heard that we picked up a new casino partner. 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,200 I I I mean, I'm gone for two weeks and Mandel launches a 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 casino. You know, that's, that's crazy, 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,320 you know? You've been cooking. 135 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,720 Yeah, I mean, I, I know I'm on. Yeah, I'm on the little angels 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,120 thing. Yeah, of course you guys are 137 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,360 cooked there, $20 million of volume. 138 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:11,520 Fuck. 2021, 1/2 now. It's fucking wild. 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,720 Yeah, look, I, I this is obviously myself, KBN, Ben Lamb, 140 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,560 a bunch of other people. I look, I'm a big fan of Robert. 141 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,960 We were we were them for a long time, but but now that and they 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,560 were great show partners, I think. 143 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,240 But we're going to try it out with the we're going to try and 144 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,200 give you a similar sort of experience for viewers. 145 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Bunch of prizes we're going to do daily. 146 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,000 I think I missed the end of the show today, so I think we're 147 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 going to do double prizes for tomorrow. 148 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,440 But yeah, daily prizes. We're going to play some of the 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,880 games. We're going to be adding a bunch 150 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,040 more like crypto based games and be able to play at different 151 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,400 times. Sims, who's our producer, has 152 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,720 been streaming a bunch of them so he knows them in and out. 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,400 I know for you've been busy, but but we'll get you good at those 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,680 games too. And these games have like a one 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,520 2% house edge. So we should be hopefully be 156 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,040 able to give out pretty much the exact prize each day over a long 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,240 period, which is pretty good. I mean, you know, I'm seeing a 158 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,960 message. Make eat available in Spain. 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Let me tell you about 3 simple letters VP just take a flight. 160 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,480 Just take a flight. I didn't say that I didn't say 161 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,160 that but but basically we're going to do giveaways every day 162 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,240 so that so that you know the amount of money you guys can 163 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,919 make on the show equals to what you guys could have won right 164 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:39,039 before this. So we're going to play games 165 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:40,360 every single day starting tomorrow. 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Make sure you use four more hours affiliate code though. 167 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,760 You, I know Wizard of Soho is out there sitting in his 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,560 affiliate code like a madman, but you can't be using his code. 169 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:52,040 He's. Made 1010 grand in four days, 170 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,280 holy shit. That's insane. 171 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,800 If you want to win on the show, you have to sign up to Yeet 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:05,120 using the FOMO Hour affiliate code only and have a public user 173 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,640 profile. All right, and then we'll pick a 174 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,240 winner every single day. So tomorrow too, but this time 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,560 instead of doing Tuesday to Friday, it's going to be 5 days 176 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:15,200 a week and we're going to play some fun games. 177 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,200 And I think if you hit fart coin on corner race, you're going to 178 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,480 be able to 40 XA $1000. So hey, you never know, you're 179 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,240 going to be able to win anywhere from 500 bucks. 180 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,080 So I don't know, let's call it 50 grand. 181 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,760 So it's kind of similar to before every single day, five 182 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,280 days a week on former Arab. Anyways, with that, why don't we 183 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,960 get cracking to the market, Mando? 184 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,960 Well, I don't have the things. Maybe 185 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 yeah, GM everyone so a better weekend. 186 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,440 I would say we are up. It doesn't it was a little bit 187 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,320 volatile yesterday, but but Bitcoin is still 84 1/2. 188 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,680 You've seen Solana, but that she had a decent bounce off the off 189 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:11,480 the lows is now at like 132 and Bitcoin sorry and a range of 190 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,440 other like more risky things are still like hanging out towards 191 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,240 the top. So like Falk coins at 900 192 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:24,320 million decent bouncing a bunch of other like L ones slash alt 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,200 coins. So just yeah, definitely some 194 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,720 more risk activity coming back here, which is I think a good 195 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:36,320 sign for for the general market. I in terms of the stuff that I'm 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,280 looking at, I think bond yields continue to be kind of like my 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,920 number one thing that I'm looking at here and they're down 198 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 a little bit today. So that's been taken, that's 199 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,360 been taken a little bit positively. 200 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,840 There was some, it's a little bit confusing, I would say the 201 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,240 commentary coming out of the Trump administration when it 202 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,040 comes to these sort of tariffs. So they obviously there was some 203 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,920 commentary over the weekend that they were going to be reduced 204 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,880 for a bunch of semiconductors, electronics, and that was 205 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,320 basically seen as positive for big tech. 206 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,040 And then that was kind of reversed by Lutnick saying, oh, 207 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,320 actually we're going to do special tariffs for those. 208 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,680 And then Trump actually kind of tried to reverse everything and 209 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,000 said, hey, yeah, we're going to we're no one got off lightly. 210 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 We're like, we're still going to do it. 211 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,200 It's different. Like now, and this is speaking, 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,000 I, I, I like to say like purely objectively, I think people, I 213 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,480 don't know if they're taking him as seriously as a negotiator 214 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,200 after kind of what happened because I think there's not like 215 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,960 this. Did he get, did he have to black 216 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,000 out because of the bond market? He backed out anyway. 217 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,360 So like, is he really in control of the decision here? 218 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,040 So like, I don't know if the threats are as threatening. 219 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:51,080 That's my general sense of this. Like whatever he says at this 220 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,600 stage kind of feels a little less like, oh, OK, it's just 221 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,760 going to work out. Because it also feels as though, 222 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,480 as Ovie put it, there's other decision makers in the room, it 223 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,080 feels like. And one of those decision makers 224 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,160 is the bond market. So it doesn't feel like it just 225 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,920 has carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants when it comes 226 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,800 to these sort of tariffs. And I think that's that's 227 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,440 important to know because, you know, as we go down this route, 228 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,560 it feels as though there's more chances he'll bail out. 229 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,240 I think the market will act less drastically to some of his 230 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,400 comments. It's probably slightly better 231 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,080 for us overall in crypto because we generally sell off on these 232 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:34,600 like crazy, crazy headlines. So yeah, slightly better market 233 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,200 for crypto. Obviously we've seen money 234 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,640 printing go up over the last few weeks. 235 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,480 There was this general like bid and I do think bitcoins got a 236 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,160 good chance here to like take that narrative. 237 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,280 Gold is down a little bit today, but but it's still up very close 238 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 to all time highs here. So feels like those two have 239 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,160 have a pretty strong narrative going for them at the moment. 240 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,280 I think the biggest story away from that was probably this this 241 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:03,280 mantra thing. Well, yeah, I think a lot of 242 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,800 people, I mean, this was a coin which we had spoken about a 243 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,680 couple times in the show as being one of the best performers 244 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,640 of 2025 and none of us has heard of it. 245 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,000 A RWA chain out of Dubai, you know, Say more. 246 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,440 You really had to. You really had to specify, 247 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,560 right? We've seen, we've seen a few of 248 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:33,600 those and seemingly dropped like 90% and a lot of people pointing 249 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,280 fingers at finance, at the team, at that. 250 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,960 This was just like a rug from the start. 251 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,320 But I think weirdly, like the market sold off when that 252 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,480 happened yesterday. It was around the same time of 253 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Trump's comments. But I think it was also just 254 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,800 like, oh God. Like I think a lot of people are 255 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,880 in coins where they see very little going on and they still 256 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,600 can have high valuations. I think that's like half of 257 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,960 crypto. Do you know what I mean? 258 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,920 Like some of these chains aren't used and still have billions of 259 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,840 dollars valuation. So these protocols are not used. 260 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,160 They have billions of dollars valuation. 261 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,800 And it's just like unwritten rule that like, oh, they're just 262 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,800 going to stay there. And this I think, was a little 263 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,000 bit scary for people because I think they probably think, oh, 264 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,520 could this happen again? Could this happen to my 265 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,160 vaporware? Yes it can and it will actually 266 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,600 OK. So, so I think I don't know if 267 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,080 it. Will. 268 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,000 Alter a little bit scale on the back of that I did look for some 269 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,160 of the other big RWA coins like Ondo. 270 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,040 Didn't really like Ondo's kind of unchanged like that as a 271 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,360 narrative is an interesting one because there's a few coins in 272 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,880 it which like don't really do that much right now and have 273 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,080 very high valuations and they're they're kind of pivoting being 274 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,000 chains or they're trying to capture it, but it's not quite 275 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,640 there yet. So I, I don't know, maybe 276 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,520 there's more rugs to come from the RWA space. 277 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,880 It's definitely a space. It's almost similar to the AI 278 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,520 space where there's like there's a promise of stuff in the 279 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,640 future. And I mean, there's no way I 280 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,200 coin it $6 billion valuation, but but that's the sort of stuff 281 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:09,760 where I like I'd worry about, oh, is this just going to rug in 282 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,560 one day, you know? Wait, can you just explain 283 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,120 something to me because this is the founder, right? 284 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,960 And then the team, I think the original team like Mantra 285 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,240 account posted it a quick tweet yesterday, which wasn't great 286 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,600 after like a coin is down 92 1/2%, which by the way, I don't 287 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,600 even know why this was worth $6 billion in the 1st place, but I 288 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,080 guess that goes for most of crypto. 289 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Can you explain to me how they're saying that there is a 290 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:42,120 like a an important stakeholder that got liquidated on exchange 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,640 for a big size? But could you explain to me how 292 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,480 this takes a token down 92.55%? Well, it doesn't. 293 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,680 That's the point. Right like that, OK, I think 294 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,120 that's. Because that's the hole in the 295 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,160 story here. Like obviously a coin is just 296 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,920 buyers and sellers and like if there's no real volume, right, 297 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,320 you know, there's market may probably hear like making fake 298 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,360 volume and then and then maybe somebody's dumped and there's 299 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,680 realized there's no actual bid for it. 300 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,240 There was some commentary from Zack XPT that some big mantra 301 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,640 holders have been hacked recently. 302 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,080 But again, that can always be a lap too like that people may 303 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,280 have lost access to their wallets. 304 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,360 When something falls 9090%. That's that's a pretty heavy 305 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:34,440 sell off it what it really shows because you could say, oh, maybe 306 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,680 just the LP even on even on Binance was low and like it just 307 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,720 the LP. If there is no other buyer of 308 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,480 that coin, I think it says a lot, you know, like that would 309 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,920 never happen to even if like this happened to another coin, 310 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,040 even like a meme coin, right? Like there's buyers on the dip. 311 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,880 If there's no buyer for 90%, it probably tells you that there 312 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,240 was no real buyers anyway. And I think that's, it's been a, 313 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,880 it's been a strict, Yeah, you like that one? 314 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,000 Amanda, what do you, you're, you've now you reply to people 315 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,680 like that. He's a meme one. 316 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:19,440 That one did some numbers. Yeah, I think it was. 317 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,800 It was an interesting one. Like it really just. 318 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Yeah, it just, I think it just exposed that maybe this could 319 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,320 happen with a bunch of tokens. So let's see I. 320 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Think what was also interesting about this one is I remember 321 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,840 there were a few people kind of like victory lapping and 322 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,000 pointing out like, oh, none of the Kols in the timeline told 323 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,440 you about Mantra and it's one of the number one performing. 324 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,320 Also the entire year you need to fix your timeline. 325 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,400 It's like no one. Plastic, OH. 326 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,720 It was, and it turns out it was just. 327 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,360 Who knows what the fuck it is. Fake artificial pump so I don't. 328 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:59,520 Know I think the dev is French. Is he? 329 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,680 Red flag #1. I'm just thinking you guys 330 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,600 French. Flag somewhere. 331 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,160 Oh God. Yeah, yeah, that's another, 332 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,240 that's another, that's another Dubai special a #9 that we call 333 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,680 them. Wow. 334 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Anyways, all right. So I have no idea what happened 335 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,240 there. I just thought they were on the 336 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,200 Kaito thing like Tyler, is that right? 337 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,400 Like there was a Kaito Yapper leaderboard for them or 338 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,000 something like that or? I actually don't know if they 339 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,520 were on could. I know I don't remember them on 340 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,960 Kaido. I'm trying to look. 341 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,560 So they would be Oh yeah, they are on here. 342 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Yeah, All right. But I mean, Kaido's got 25 post 343 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,320 TGT community leaderboards, so like that that. 344 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,400 Does I'm. Just saying like you've got a 345 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,640 bunch of folks trying to farm Kaido who don't actually know 346 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,960 anything about these protocols and they're spreading messages 347 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,360 about it like that can't amplify the potential issue, right? 348 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,600 No, I'm just saying, like I I was trying to see a a pattern, 349 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,280 right. It's like you come with some 350 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,320 bullshit narrative. You pay to play on the platform 351 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,400 where people will like talk about your product, you know, 352 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,720 because people are just probably paid to yap, right, because 353 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,040 they're trying to fire me out point. 354 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,640 So it's nothing to do with Kaido, by the way. 355 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,600 And then and then, you know, you kind of like do all this stuff 356 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,520 and then bang, like all of a sudden that's the kind of the 357 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,520 new play, right? Like back then in 2021 NFTS, it 358 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,880 was like X Apple and X Amazon started the NFT project and then 359 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,160 they raised like $25 million. Then the project becomes nothing 360 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,360 because turns out the guy worked the Genius Bar at Apple, you 361 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,640 know what I mean? So we got to be careful here, 362 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,440 man. These are these. 363 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,160 I'm not saying they're scammers because I don't know. 364 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,040 It seems like the founder wrote a very large post about it and 365 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,440 then ended up on a few podcasts right away. 366 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,000 I kind of like that, usually about the if you if you're 367 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,440 trying to fix the problem, but it looks like that was. 368 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Looks like it was quite a big deal. 369 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,320 So do you guys think a token like this recovers? 370 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:13,200 This there's nothing there. There's so much of crypto is 371 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:21,120 like that, like these, these scams are wild like like they 372 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,440 they, I mean they do this thing in like trad for a little bit. 373 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,240 Like you'll find these like random companies where like they 374 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 have huge valuations and then someone just realizes there's 375 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,400 nothing there. But there's there's going to be 376 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,760 some of this in crypto too. Be sure. 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,800 I think the the. Broad this is still overvalued. 378 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,920 Mean what does it mean for the broader like RWA sector here? 379 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,240 Like are the other coins, are they going to go up or are they 380 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,840 going to go down as like the, the broader sector has some 381 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,400 trust loss. So we'll see. 382 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,800 So let's have a. You have to. 383 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,360 Evaluate each of the individual. Ondo is a coin which is probably 384 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:56,640 leads to that sector now. Now the mantra is at 0 Ondo, I 385 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,680 don't think it's making any revenue right now or at least 386 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,000 it's making de minimis revenue. The hope for Ondo is that I 387 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,680 think it's trying to pivot, pivot to being a chain that 388 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,280 partners with Tradfy in the US Like Ondo's got some links to 389 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Tradfy in the US. And the idea is that they'll be 390 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,120 able to like on board different like BlackRock and all these 391 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:21,040 sort of guys. And there's going to be revenue 392 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,840 from the shared funds and then they may make some small fund 393 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960 revenue, but like the actual revenue to buy that token is not 394 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,880 high under still. It's a diluted, like a diluted 395 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,400 valuation of like 9 billion, right? 396 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,880 There's just a lot of points like this. 397 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,680 You know, there's a promise of the future and probably like 398 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,760 random X partnership, like we've got a partnership with these 399 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 guys on this and like you never really know in crypto. 400 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:51,240 And I think it's it's most prominent in lower cap coins. 401 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:58,880 But during this cycle, a number of sectors like RW as and, and 402 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,080 AI to a certain extent and, and made like gaming would be the 403 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,000 other one, right? Like for most of those are now 404 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,000 have gone down a lot. Like there's a lot of that, just 405 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,080 like there's not a lot going on here for that valuation. 406 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:14,720 And it's really just about supply control rather than 407 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:21,800 actually about actual value, so. Yeah, I mean, look on the flip 408 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,760 side, you could be a holding ETH for according to Woben Boba, one 409 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:32,000 of our listeners, he's saying even down 90%, even down 90% and 410 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,160 outperformed Ethereum year to date, so. 411 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,240 Actually, I'm a glad cool. Type of, that's what, that's 412 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,080 what. I'm saying here that hurts. 413 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:43,720 It's not hard to do. Or on the one year or on the one 414 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,600 year I listen, I have a glass half full type of guy, you know. 415 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,480 But but yeah, no, I don't think this would something that would 416 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,000 affect the whole RWA narrative, Tyler. 417 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840 I think people would just like flopped like a more. 418 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,120 I mean, I guess people do start looking. 419 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,440 I mean, it definitely is not the cycle of altcoins. 420 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,680 Let's just put it that way, right guys? 421 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,440 It's like between the scams and the hacks and the altcoins just 422 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,240 getting slammed non-stop versus Bitcoin and everything is and 423 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,080 everything just flocks back to fart coin. 424 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaking of which, Tyler, why don't we go to Tyler's top 100? 425 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Because, you know, I think of fart coin. 426 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Just think of Tyler. I don't know. 427 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,760 I don't know why I just because of the doctor's story, like last 428 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440 year, I guess you were kind of the first person to bring a fart 429 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,560 coin to me early on. Anyways, let's let's go to 430 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,120 Tyler's top 100 NFT and crypto analysis. 431 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,200 Tyler D. On FOMO, our cause, the. 432 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Kid can. Great to batch the bears, all 433 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 right, folks. Crypto majors nicely green here, 434 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,280 up about two to 6% across the board. 435 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,360 Bitcoin AT85K amidst ongoing tariff volatility and roller 436 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,400 coaster headlines with walking tariffs back and then saying, 437 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,760 hey, that was fake news, So it's an ongoing roller coaster. 438 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,960 The sole ETH ratio closed at its highest level in history 439 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,240 yesterday, the highest ever weekly close. 440 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,640 So E continues to outperform not only Bitcoin but Solana as well. 441 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600 We talked about mantra OM that token fell 90%, lost over $5 442 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800 billion in market cap. US recession odds on Poly market 443 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,400 fell from over 60% to below 50% over the weekend, though after 444 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400 one of the latest Trump tariff reversal. 445 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,440 So perhaps recession odds less likely. 446 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,880 Ethereum developers have finalized their May 7th Petra 447 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,320 upgrade are now planning on the next one called Fusaka. 448 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Breaking news this morning we saw strategy by another is this 449 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,200 right 3459 Bitcoin an average of 82,618. 450 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,440 That was a massive buy from strategy and then metaplanet, 451 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,320 the Japanese MicroStrategy, they bought another 26,000,000. 452 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,120 So the companies continue to pile in the headlines going 453 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,240 viral here got the story from decrypt crypto punk whale 454 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,360 Wilcox. He pled guilty, faces up to six 455 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,480 years in federal prison after filing false tax returns and 456 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,240 concealing $13 million in income from his punk sales in 2021 and 457 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,000 2022. So not great. 458 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Tomorrow is tax day in the United States in AI and memes. 459 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,560 Promptoken reached $0.55 at peak over the weekend, hanging out 460 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,360 around $0.45 right now, around $100 million market cap. 461 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Meme coin leaders were pretty green over the weekend. 462 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,000 I think there's some broader strength in the sector. 463 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,160 This RFC was one of the top movers that crossed $100 million 464 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,760 one of the the the few times we've seen the new meme cross 465 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,760 that that thresholds that was a big one far coins leaving all 466 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,800 movers on the day across crypto right now and then one to watch 467 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,440 those trump token unlock start this Friday folks yes, it has 468 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,800 been three months April 18th, $330 million set to start 469 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,760 unlocking a couple other stories here Odin dot fund has paused 470 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,440 its Bitcoin meme trading and withdrawals after their Co 471 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,920 founder was hacked. So that's not great. 472 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:51,320 The latest O Pepin set Zoo Pepin one of the the more fun stories 473 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,160 the NFTS we've seen in a while. They opened up at a 2 1/2 ETH 474 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,760 floor 2030 sales in that one to two ETH range current high sale 475 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,680 3 1/2 ETH. We saw Bitcoin NFT leaders and 476 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,400 runes were pretty green over the weekend. 477 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Those temperate Wizards almost back to 0.2 Bitcoin. 478 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,960 So that's that's 10 ETH roughly. So that would put it right neck 479 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,040 and neck with pudgy Penguins. So that's a pretty big floor. 480 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,800 And then this abstract Bitcoin Ponzi game it. 481 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,280 It fell off a Cliff on Friday, but refreshed the. 482 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,600 No, it's. Grinding back up, it's back to 483 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,800 $7.00, so maybe this thing has another another set of legs in 484 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,600 it. So. 485 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,840 We're not doing another week of Bitcoin. 486 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,160 We. Don't go. 487 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,400 Your micro bags for enough here and it went down 90% it. 488 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,200 Was of course like the fall that everyone expected. 489 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000 I think the open question was would it have any kind of a 490 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,640 rebound? And it looks like maybe it does, 491 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,240 but. Yeah. 492 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,400 No. I think we're really. 493 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,320 Fond of that one. I think we're they've just they 494 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520 just announced a new system to it. 495 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,920 Tyler, if you if you open up the Twitter, you're able to have a 496 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,560 look. They've now got macro strategy 497 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,880 bonds, Michael Baylor and all sorts of other bits and bats 498 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,320 going on with it. So there's they're doing 499 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,840 something big. Yeah, they're doing something 500 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,320 big. Big, big, big things coming with 501 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,960 the with the Bitcoin B, you know. 502 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,480 Yes, indeed, it's been. Three months. 503 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,080 So it's been 3 months since Trump? 504 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Yeah, and that means it's been 3 months since Melania. 505 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,440 Correct. So Melania will turn three 506 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,400 months old on Sunday, Saturday, Sunday. 507 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480 It was right after it was. It was it one day after, Tom? 508 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,480 No, it was 2 days. It was two days after. 509 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,160 No, no, no. It was Friday night. 510 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,400 Sunday, Yeah. Yeah, the best two days in 511 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,480 crypto history before the before the worst. 512 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,800 So yeah, that that's going to be a big story to watch, right? 513 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,000 And it certainly. Happens here guys. 514 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560 What are your calls? What do you think happens, like 515 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,680 usually a token before an unlock like this pumps and then you 516 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,960 can, oh, that's the wrong one, sorry. 517 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,640 And usually kind of sell into it. 518 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,160 What what do you think? You think they're do you think 519 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,320 they're just going to recklessly dump $400 million into? 520 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000 I don't think so, right? Surely you don't just do that. 521 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,880 If it doesn't dump, I could see some folks think, take that as a 522 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760 sign of strength, perhaps like this was the big hurdle coming 523 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,360 up. I don't hold any Trump coin, but 524 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,680 man, I mean, it's also like this thing has got no momentum. 525 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,080 No one talking about it. It's like, why it's still so 526 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080 expensive? Like, why would you buy it? 527 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,320 I think they need some kind of a big curveball announcement. 528 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,720 I got to go lads, all the best. See, see Mando pops go UPS. 529 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,040 So I mean, what do you I I I don't even have a read on this. 530 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Zero read on it. I've been thinking about it, but 531 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,520 because I was like, maybe do I take a trade? 532 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Do I know I'm like, I'd rather hold soul over that or just fart 533 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,800 coin, which we'll talk about in a second, I'm sure. 534 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,160 But this is. I don't know if you're buying it 535 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200 here on the hopes that they're going to pull out a trick. 536 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,160 Like, I mean, what, what is your upside like 20%, like 50% or you 537 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,720 think it's going to go past 12? And I mean, there's, there's 538 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,160 other plays on the meme board that, that, that look easier for 539 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,200 a 50% gain right now, right, Versus still the downside risk. 540 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,680 I mean, this is still at 8 1/2 billion FTV. 541 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,080 That's the thing. Like I. 542 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520 With 300 million in cell pressure unlocking on Friday. 543 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,520 And that's The thing is on every pump, you don't you, you can't 544 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,080 even hold the pumps because you're like, well, what if 545 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720 because it's unlocked? Because it'll be monthly too. 546 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,240 So not only do you have to survive the first, you have to 547 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,760 survive like the first week, right? 548 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440 To see how it's going to shake out right after it goes, it 549 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,880 opens up. But then you also have to 550 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640 survive it every month. It's a yeah, It's a trick. 551 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,640 It's hard to paint the bull case. 552 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,760 Yeah. OK, I guess we'll see what 553 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,200 happens That front. Speaking of meme coins, Tyler, 554 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,480 our favorite far coin. I mean guys, ever since I've 555 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,000 been gone, this thing has just been ripping. 556 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,480 This is just like insane. I bought some literally I was at 557 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,760 the airport 2 weeks ago from today, two weeks ago today. 558 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,600 I was on the Monday night. I was at the airport and I had 559 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,120 some Solana in a hot wallet and I was like, yo, what if I just 560 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,720 like it? It's not an insane amount. 561 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,680 I think I said on the show, but I was like, I'll just buy Farkle 562 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,920 with it with the whole amount and let's see if it pays for 563 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,480 everything. And I have to say, man, this 564 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,200 thing has paid for my whole trip and then some. 565 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,000 I mean, it's, it's starting to pay for my future Lisbon rent at 566 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,320 this stage. You'd love to see it. 567 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,680 It's just been ripping, yeah. It was the perfect what? 568 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,960 What? What happens now, Tyler? 569 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,960 We Yeah, we had the perfect read on this by the. 570 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,840 Way it was, I mean, I, I, I didn't think it would go back up 571 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,360 this fast, but I'm being totally honest. 572 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,960 So like this has been incredible to see. 573 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:14,440 We're also we're up now 3X in two to three weeks here. 574 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080 I I think we're probably going to kind of shop in this range 575 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,280 like maybe it maybe we overshoot a dollar on a big pump or a 576 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880 short squeeze. I think it's going to take a 577 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,120 little bit of time to consolidate at this next level 578 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,120 unless we just see like a major breakout. 579 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,400 I think what's interesting to watch here is it it did this 580 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,040 with Bitcoin at 85 K souls at 1:30. 581 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,240 You've got folks like an handsome call for soul to go to 582 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760 180 now. So if soul. 583 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Positive. Not. 584 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,760 We're not. We're not going to $50 anymore. 585 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,480 He's bullish. Oh yeah, bullish now. 586 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,960 OK, got it. Got it. 587 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800 There's more bulls on the timeline now, so the question is 588 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:57,120 if small runs 40%, what does fuck run run and probably more. 589 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,040 What I love about this is that it's the stupidest coin right 590 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640 thing like the fart coin and it's the most tratfy adopted 591 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,760 meme coin at this stage almost ever. 592 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760 I I can't say it's more adopted in like Dogecoin and Tri fight 593 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,240 because the Dogecoin was the meme whatever. 594 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,920 So I'm not trying to compare it either. 595 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,880 But like and during the roughest time last week, right, like this 596 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,480 time last Monday was like black Monday, right? 597 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,880 And that thing was ripping through all the Trump tariff 598 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,200 China shenanigans. And now I feel like the 599 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,680 narrative just got stronger. Tyler. 600 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360 It's like I I'm here like wow, like at what point do I just put 601 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,280 all my salon into this thing? I'm late, clearly, but am I? 602 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,120 No, 60% off all time, yeah. This is crazy. 603 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,800 I mean, I, I can't believe I didn't do. 604 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,120 I did it last time around when it was around 600 million. 605 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320 I did not do it this time around because I was convinced that 606 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,080 we'd go lower. I, I caved. 607 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,960 I was fully, fully allocated, but to majors instead of to my 608 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,320 favorite corn, to our favorite corn. 609 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 So look at that. Anyways, Tyler, what else you 610 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,400 got for us? I seen Naveen and Stu. 611 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,120 We'll go to Naveen too in a couple of minutes. 612 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,840 Talk about all things Tari. You know, I love that stuff. 613 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,800 Naveen loves Far Coin, I'm sure. Can't wait to ask him about Far 614 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,360 Coin. But but Tyler, what else you got 615 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,400 for us today? Yeah, I think the O Pepin sets a 616 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520 fun story, right? We, I don't think we've seen an 617 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,000 O Pepin set in a while take over the timeline. 618 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560 So I think a lot of folks rooting for this one. 619 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,360 I think I've seen a lot of folks who maybe not haven't been 620 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,320 buying NFTS as much kind of jumping in to buy this one. 621 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,160 So it's called Zoo Pepin make a handful of artists collaborating 622 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120 on this one over over several months. 623 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,520 It it went live was massively oversubscribed by 2800% 624 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,720 subscribe. That Unicorn is the one of one 625 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,360 up in the top left corner that crab 7 over on the top row. 626 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320 That one sold for 3 1/2 eighth. I think that's the top that 627 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,680 we've seen so far in the collection. 628 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,200 Holds a 2 1/2 feet floor. So anyone who minted and got 629 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,720 that got a nice, nice little return over the O Pepin floor. 630 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,159 So it was a fun one, Fun story. We had a couple nice punk sales 631 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,840 over the weekend. Cowboy sold like in USDC. 632 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,639 They're so cheap like that. Cowboy sold for 100,000 which 633 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:22,639 the floor was over 100,000 like a couple months ago. 634 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,520 Yeah. And then that other one sold for 635 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,560 62 1/2 right next to it. So clearly people are continuing 636 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,280 to buy some of the more aesthetic box hasn't been a 637 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560 whole lot of war action recently. 638 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,159 I think we're probably waiting. I think we need to see a little 639 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:44,639 bit more risk on like a Bitcoin clears 90K and maybe folks start 640 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,480 to feel a little bit bold up about going down downstream, a 641 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,080 little bit more in the box. I think that's kind of my read. 642 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,120 So we're hanging out at 42 1/2. It's been pretty much a stable, 643 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,880 stable floor here. I don't know if when you were 644 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,800 out last week that that alien sold for $6 million, but. 645 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,360 It was a oh, it's that. Yes, he's got his fourth alien. 646 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,760 Dude, OB back at it by aliens. So in terms of like ETH, it's 647 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,720 it's a lot of ETH by the way. It's just that ETH is down in 648 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:17,120 the gutter and it's $6 million. If someone has listened, there's 649 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,920 still someone out there with the appetite is spending $6 million 650 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,520 on a JPG on Ethereum. On top of that, you know, listen 651 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,640 the it's it's got to be bullish for punks. 652 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,920 The thing is you're all you. I feel like it's like the it's 653 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,400 it's so and plus positive EV to buy a metal punks something 654 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,920 aesthetic than a floor punk at this stage. 655 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440 I have a friend for example, is shopping for a punk and he put a 656 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,560 bid up. He doesn't want to touch the 657 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,040 floor first this begin. I don't really like any 4 punks 658 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640 like you tell me, pick anything in the first 2-3 rows. 659 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,200 I'm not a big fan, right? It really takes around like 660 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,840 here, not bad. So you're really looking at 661 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,360 nothing crazy under like 47 ish ETH and then above this and and 662 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,640 clearly the market is saying the same thing as I am here. 663 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,640 Like you have really nice punks here, here, here. 664 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040 So you really got to dish out a little more And these middle 665 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,840 punks are selling man. So that's always a good signal 666 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,320 to me when I, when I see something like that. 667 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,280 It's been the story of the cycle. 668 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,000 It's like Bitcoin and then for NFC, even punks. 669 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,280 That's really it, right? And then, of course, a bunch of 670 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360 pudgy stuff along the lines like between the air drop and 671 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,440 abstract. But love to see O Pepin come 672 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560 back strongly here. Jack Butcher's a good friend. 673 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,400 He's a good guy. He's always he's he's been 674 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,000 around the entire time. So that goes to tell you that 675 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,480 there's going to be appetite for these old pepins, man, when the 676 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,360 market turns around and hopefully when NFTS start doing 677 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480 better and the art space in general, people are still going 678 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,120 to want some. I saw you talk about Grant you 679 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,160 and last week and stuff like that. 680 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,760 So don't want to reiterate, but you love to see that. 681 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,840 And then the other thing on punks. 682 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Though that Wilcox story is crazy. 683 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,760 Yeah. So when this headline first 684 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,680 started coming out, we didn't know if he would be facing jail 685 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,800 time. So I think that was the open 686 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,840 question. So he did plead guilty as the 687 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,080 details have come out, he effectively checked a box that 688 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,720 said he didn't have any digital asset transactions. 689 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,640 So it's not like he, it's not like he reported 1,000,000 in 690 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,640 income when it was actually 13 million. 691 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,000 He reported 0. So those are the type of 692 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:21,040 egregious crimes effectively that I think will get you in 693 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,000 more trouble versus if you miscalculated, but you at least 694 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,320 put some type of a good faith effort into doing some type of 695 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,160 reporting. So I think they'll probably make 696 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,880 an example out of that. I don't know if he's going to 697 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,720 get the full 6 years. I would imagine he's probably 698 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,680 less than that, but I think he'll probably facing some some 699 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,120 actual jail time for this one. So just another reminder folks 700 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,200 with tax day. And if you're you live in the 701 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,400 US, it's nice to go to sleep at night, right? 702 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,440 And I mean he tax. Day tomorrow he. 703 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,640 Kept an extra 3,000,000. It's like that's what the 704 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,600 article says. Like really like 10 million 705 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,840 versus 13 isn't really that different. 706 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Like just take your 10 million, give the government their three, 707 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,920 and then. And he still owns 100 punks, so 708 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,600 it's not like he's poor. There's also like from a trading 709 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 perspective, yeah, from a trading perspective, there's a 710 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,920 question of, OK, like does he have to, will he have to 711 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,760 liquidate the punks to, you know, sell for fines, you know, 712 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,200 raise capital for fines, that type of thing. 713 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,960 Punks OTC kind of alluded to the fact that maybe he had already 714 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,040 done that. It's like, I think he went on a 715 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,480 cell spree like back in 2023, he did in 2024. 716 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080 So I don't know that we're going to see a whole lot like Wilcox 717 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,640 cell pressure necessarily, but we'll we'll see. 718 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,840 Never rooting for anyone to you. Know no no matter who it it I 719 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,560 mean it depends who sorry like someone like Duquan and SDF were 720 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,240 definitely rooting for them to be in the same cell as Diddy but 721 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,600 somewhat yeah but those ones man this sucks dude. 722 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,160 This is why, hey, tax day tomorrow, if you're one of those 723 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,840 people that check that you don't have any crypto punks sales to 724 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,600 your name or any crypto sales, maybe go back and and check that 725 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,320 box. OK, yeah, you're going to sleep 726 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,600 better at night. And if you don't want to, then 727 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,760 maybe go live somewhere else. But you, you know what I mean? 728 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,400 Like there's there's that's so crazy, man, that's crazy. 729 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,360 That's that's really, really what And also his his his buy 730 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840 car average is nothing. So that three million really 731 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040 means nothing to to him. Like it's like it's because he 732 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680 he, he he claimed most of them, right, If not all of them. 733 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560 I think he was one of the biggest Proclaimers ever, right? 734 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,880 He's like 200 punks. So yeah, we covered this last 735 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440 week, like no, three, 2 1/2 weeks ago when the news came out 736 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,760 with the IRS. And, and I'm afraid that they 737 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,640 may make him an example because that is a prime example for the 738 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,280 other NFT traders that made a lot of money last run. 739 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,920 And and sadly also be careful because a lot of these people, I 740 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680 mean, they clear myself, you know, lost a lot of money after 741 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,800 that, but you still got to kind of pay your taxes then, right? 742 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,880 So you got to got to pay attention. 743 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,680 Anyways, Tyler, if there's nothing else that was super 744 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,880 impressing. We can probably talk about 745 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,080 tomorrow. Perfect. 746 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:09,000 Let's go to Naveen. Naveen extra bullish. 747 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Oh, yeah, I got this so bullish. And we got Naveen extra bullish. 748 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040 I love that. Naveen, what's up, man? 749 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,920 How you doing? Good morning. 750 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,520 Good morning. Thanks for having me guys. 751 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,520 How you doing? Naveen, thanks for coming. 752 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520 We're good, man. We're really good. 753 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,880 Another day in paradise, you know. 754 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,000 Yeah, hell yeah, man. It's, well, it's a Green Day, 755 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,720 right? So you know, better to have a 756 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:36,560 Green Day than a red day. Oh, oh, yeah, it definitely oh, 757 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,240 wow, it is wow. It's we're definitely green. 758 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,800 I'm I just looked at prices again. 759 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,080 I don't have my double monitors this time, so I can't look. 760 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,960 I have a whole price monitor next to me, but we're definitely 761 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,640 green green. I love that Tyler. 762 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,240 I feel like you got to change your name to like Tyler Ultra. 763 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,800 Bullish. You. 764 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,240 Know I wear the green hat every day. 765 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,400 I'm feeling ultra bullish and I wear it most days. 766 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,320 The green bulls hat is is is is my signal usually. 767 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,960 I mean Naveen, how you feeling this about the market every time 768 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,400 and you're always bullish. You're no GI mean. 769 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,520 You've been in crypto for forever. 770 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,680 I mean, how? How have you been the last few 771 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,360 weeks? I mean, look, it's obviously 772 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,520 very hard, I know, for everyone with the macro, you know, it, it 773 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640 just feels like whiplash everyday, you know, some new 774 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,120 announcement, pronouncement from the king, you know, like, you 775 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,400 know, the king, you know, says this and then he says that and 776 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560 everyone's like, Oh my God, what is he going to say next? 777 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640 And I think that makes it really hard for for everybody because, 778 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,040 you know, we're, we're all trying to find our way and we 779 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560 all have different stories that, you know, we, we believe in. 780 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,200 And so, but you know, look, I think obviously just like you 781 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,240 guys, I believe very strongly that this is the future of 782 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,040 money. This is the future of finance. 783 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,720 Like we're all in the right place. 784 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,680 And it's just a question of like which technologies end up being 785 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,560 the thing that is super successful over the next, you 786 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,880 know, three 5-10 years. And yeah, you know, I, I have my 787 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,040 long term conviction bag, you know, that I'm not much of A 788 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,680 trader. I don't, I don't like, I don't 789 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,440 pay attention to charge really. I don't like watch price all 790 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,000 that often because I've got my like long term bets and I just 791 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,920 kind of like let him ride up and down up like the roller coaster 792 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,760 kind of vibe. So I'm I'm happy with where I'm 793 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,680 at personally. No, I love that. 794 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,520 I mean, Naveen is one of my very, very close friends and 795 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,720 also genius. Honestly, I often turned to 796 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,120 Naveen when I when I when I, when I need some advice over 797 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,720 everything that we're doing. So Naveen, why don't you like 798 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,240 give yourself a little bit of an intro for for our audience that 799 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,480 may not know you as well as I do? 800 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,960 And then and then let's talk about Tari because you guys are 801 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,680 one of the chain slash narrative that people are actually looking 802 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,960 forward to on the timeline. A lot of people, a lot of 803 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,480 actually very smart people talk about it. 804 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,480 Mando has told us a few times on the show already that they've 805 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,920 invested in your company as well. 806 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,560 So he literally put his money in where his where his mouth is 807 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,280 with you guys. So once you go to the 808 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,720 introduction of yourself and then what's happening with Tari 809 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,600 in general? Yeah, totally, man. 810 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,600 Yeah. So I, I'm Naveen. 811 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,280 I, I love building things. You know, I, I started off my 812 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,240 career actually in the music business, started working with 813 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,720 bands in building their websites and fan clubs and online stores, 814 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,360 had a lot of success in that first business. 815 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,560 And then I, you know, built my second business in the logistics 816 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,720 space, founded a project and, and put it through Y Combinator 817 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,800 in 2014. You know, I love betting on 818 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,360 start-ups. So I'm an Angel investor in 819 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,600 many, many, many, many different things in the crypto space. 820 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,440 You know, like I was a seed investor in layer 0 and got to 821 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,560 participate in, in one way through, you know, in the Solana 822 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,280 Series A and, you know, a bunch of other things. 823 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,320 Obviously I'm a backer of you guys, as you know, and, and very 824 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,280 passionate about what you guys are doing with, with myriad and, 825 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,120 and decrypt and all the other amazing things that you have 826 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,320 going on. So, yeah. 827 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,440 And then, you know, I got into this space in 2016 as a Monero 828 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,360 miner. And for me it, it just made a 829 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,120 lot more sense than getting involved with Ethereum and some 830 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,160 of these other, you know, other things that everyone loves these 831 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,920 days. And then I got to meet the 832 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,800 former lead maintainer of Monero. 833 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,960 His name is Fluffy Pony. His, well, his real name is 834 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,200 Ricardo. He goes by Fluffy Pony on the 835 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,440 timeline, which is a whole separate conversation and he's 836 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,200 like, he's a total OG, such a great dude. 837 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,000 We're totally cut from the same cloth. 838 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,880 And we started working on the Atari project in around 2017. 839 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,200 So it's, it's been a very long road for this project. 840 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,280 It's taken us a really long time to get to like where we are at. 841 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,160 But you know, obviously we're really excited about it. 842 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,400 We think that there's a new opportunity here and we'll bring 843 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,080 sort of a fresh perspective to the table. 844 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,680 Yeah, this is great. So I love that. 845 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,680 So fluffy pony. Yeah, I I remember talking to 846 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,280 him back in the yacht days. But you know, it's actually 847 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,160 pretty crazy that your partner is one of the Co founder Co core 848 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,000 contributors of of Monero, right. 849 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,720 We've talked of Monero a lot, especially in the downtrend. 850 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:14,080 I think we were talking about Monero in the sense that it was 851 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,120 probably one of the safest havens, right, the safest. 852 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,960 That's that's to own 2025 so far, which which is really 853 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,800 impressive. So why don't we get into into 854 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,640 main net for for Tari? Sorry, because I know you guys 855 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,640 have main net coming up in April it's coming up very soon. 856 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,640 People have been mining Tari for a minute. 857 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,400 I've been seeing it all over my timeline. 858 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,040 So what's Tari? Because you know, Naveen, you 859 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,080 and I talk about this a lot. There's a lot of chains out 860 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,040 there, but. A lot of chains. 861 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,480 There's a lot of surveillance chains out. 862 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,760 There, yeah, a lot of surveillance going on. 863 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,400 Tell us how you really feel about blockchains, I mean, and 864 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,600 why and why? Why Tari? 865 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,480 Yeah. So I I think that you know that 866 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,600 there's a couple key elements to Tari. 867 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,440 So the first thing I'll share, I just shared my screen if you 868 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,520 want to put it up. So basically. 869 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,480 Yeah, let me do it. Right now, our general view is 870 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,160 that what really matters in this space, what really matters for 871 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600 any given token is the number of people that care about it. 872 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,760 And so when as we were thinking about how to design Tari and how 873 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,280 to how to create the best possible opportunity for a new 874 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,560 protocol in a world where there's, as you and I have 875 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,560 talked about, like literally a kajillion protocols, like how 876 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,160 many protocols are there? There's It's, it's, it's 877 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,520 unbelievable when you really kind of look at the data like 878 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,960 10s of thousands or something or some crazy number. 879 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:46,640 So, so how do you optimize for, like, having the best possible 880 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,280 outcome when you're building a new protocol? 881 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,400 And what we thought about is the best thing we could be really 882 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,000 doing is figuring out how to create as much emotional 883 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,760 connection as possible with people. 884 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,600 Yeah. Because at the end of the day, 885 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,160 when people choose to buy something, it's an emotional 886 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,400 decision. I mean, you can look at all the 887 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,520 charts you want, but the decision to buy something always 888 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,320 is essentially an emotional decision. 889 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,800 You're, you're, you're kind of justifying it to yourself at the 890 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,920 end of the day that I should pay a price for, for whatever token 891 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120 XY and Z or product or whatever it is. 892 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,040 And so when we, when we thought about it, we thought, gosh, you 893 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:27,040 know, proof of work as a technology is where we started, 894 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,560 right? Like that's the technology, 895 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,880 that's the security model for Bitcoin. 896 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,640 It's the original security model for Ethereum. 897 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,520 It's a security model for Monero and for many other tokens and 898 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,280 protocols that people are very familiar with. 899 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,520 And we realized that proof of work is sort of a lost art. 900 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,360 It's a technology that we've kind of like pushed aside in 901 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,240 favor of proof of stake, but there's some very interesting 902 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,480 trade-offs that people just don't think about. 903 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,160 So I don't know about you guys, but whenever I get an AirDrop 904 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,640 these days, first of all, nine times out of 10, I'm instant 905 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,040 seller. Like I don't care what it is, I 906 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,920 don't care what where it's going. 907 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:10,000 I'm like because I get punished, I get punished so often when? 908 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,680 I don't tell Jesse Pollack about that. 909 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,560 Sorry, what? I said don't tell Jesse Pollack 910 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,040 about that. Oh, yeah, yeah. 911 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,960 No, I mean, it's like, but it's crazy, right? 912 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,400 And, and I think, you know, we all feel the same way about it. 913 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,360 And and I I realized that, gosh, there's this huge problem where 914 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,280 you received the token. You didn't really do anything 915 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,680 for it. You know, maybe you click some 916 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,680 buttons, you formed a test net. You know, you tweeted about it a 917 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,560 few times. Like in the Kaido era, like 918 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000 everyone tweets about something a few times and expects to get 919 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,120 rich, you know, like, but you know, what I learned in the 920 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,640 music business is that if you get something for free, you 921 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200 don't really value it. There's no, there's no value 922 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,960 connection if you get something for free. 923 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,080 Like I used to get shit all the time for free and I don't value 924 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,840 it at all. And what I realized is like, 925 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,240 man, we're kind of really fucking it up with this proof of 926 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,240 stake stuff. And the reason why is because 927 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:09,880 you're not getting people to make an emotional connection. 928 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,600 You're not asking them to really commit to do to doing anything 929 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:19,080 in in exchange for the token where with proof of work, you 930 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,760 have to do the freaking work. You have to mine the coin. 931 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,000 You have to there's there's an electricity cost, there's a, you 932 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,360 know, compute cost. There's a time and effort cost. 933 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,360 You've got to do something right. 934 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,760 And so the first decision tree for Atari was like, man, maybe 935 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,280 we need to really optimize for emotional connection here and, 936 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,480 and, and build a product that people can use to mine Tari that 937 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,640 hopefully creates that bridge in terms of like connecting with 938 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,440 people, like in their hearts versus just connecting with 939 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,120 people in their minds. And so, So what we decided to do 940 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,520 is build the world's easiest to use crypto miner, right? 941 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,920 So this is called Tari Universe is what you see on your screen. 942 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,200 And it's really kind of a remarkable product because it's 943 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,120 three steps. You download it, you install it 944 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,680 and you run it and it runs on basically any modern Mac or PC. 945 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,880 So you don't need like custom hardware. 946 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,920 You don't need to be an expert at mining. 947 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,080 You don't need to be like some guru cryptographic cryptographer 948 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,400 Rockstar. You could just be like, you 949 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,520 could be my mom, you know, you could be my mom and you could 950 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,640 like download this thing on your Mac and you can mine tarring and 951 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,560 it when you when you run it, it's dope because it does 952 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,960 basically everything complexity behind the scenes. 953 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,640 It creates your wallet, connects the network, syncs state, you 954 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,200 know, you helps you join a pool and and you can start mining 955 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,760 within, you know, very little time. 956 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,480 And what we do is we represent the blockchain as this 3 957 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,560 dimensional tower and mining is sort of a race. 958 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,240 It's a game. So you're competing with all the 959 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,520 other miners to build the next floor of the tower. 960 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,120 And that's, that's Part 1 of the Tari story. 961 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680 Part 2 is the one you know about, which is it's default 962 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,920 private. And, and you know, to me, I 963 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040 always, you know, I get on spaces sometimes and I have 964 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,960 these really hilarious conversations where people are 965 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,720 like, well, Naveen, you know, isn't the purpose of block 966 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:12,160 chains to be transparent? And I'm like, bro, you know, the 967 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,280 original Bitcoin white paper has a whole section on privacy. 968 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,600 I mean, what are you talking about? 969 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,760 This is like an implementation decision. 970 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,720 It's not like some like core thing that like, oh, all block 971 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,200 chains must be default surveillance or they're not 972 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,120 block chains. It's like, bro, this is this is 973 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,120 a choice. And, and when you really zoom 974 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,240 out and think about it and you go, OK, what's the purpose of 975 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:35,760 these protocols? The purpose of these protocols 976 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,160 is to become a new layer of the Internet that, you know, powers 977 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440 basically programmable money, you know, and all kinds of 978 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,160 different, all different kinds of programmable money. 979 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,040 And when you really think about that, you go, gosh, you know, 980 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,640 well, when I send a wire transfer, who knows about it? 981 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,800 Hey, hey, Froak, how much is in your bank account right now? 982 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,680 You know, do you, do you want to like create a world where 983 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,320 someone can just Google the bank account? 984 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Number and. Like be seeking your balance, 985 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,640 your transaction history, you know, and you start to think 986 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,480 about that and you think about, gosh, this is actually a safety 987 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,120 issue. You know, like when I'm walking 988 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,280 down the street in whatever, New York, Paris, San Francisco, 989 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,280 whatever, I don't want everyone to know what I got going on. 990 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,600 That's crazy. That's a safety issue, right? 991 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,920 And then you start to think about business and you're like, 992 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,840 Oh my gosh, wait, you know, you see it all the time. 993 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,320 Like you see these tweets about Ethereum and Solana. 994 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,120 Oh my God, it's the chain of business. 995 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,840 And look at all these partnerships and shit and you're 996 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,480 like all these companies they supposedly are partnering with. 997 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,960 Do any of these companies want every employee to know how much 998 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,560 other employees are getting paid or how much customer A pays for 999 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,080 product or service versus customer B or C? 1000 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,640 Or could you imagine if like any corporation has a stack ranked 1001 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480 list of all of their customers by revenue or volume? 1002 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,920 You know, anyone could create like a dune dashboard and just 1003 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,760 like vampire attack their best customers. 1004 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,120 Like Can you imagine if the world actually worked that way? 1005 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,760 Like, no business would be successful because the cost to 1006 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,760 acquire customer for most businesses is pretty high and 1007 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,120 you need to like build loyalty and have control over your 1008 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,200 customer base in order to maximize your lifetime value. 1009 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,720 You don't want to have Delta Airlines in a scenario where 1010 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,840 American and United are poaching all their top Flyers. 1011 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,520 Delta wouldn't survive, right? And so you start to think about 1012 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,080 that and you go, gosh, you know, well, what are the surveillance 1013 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,200 chains built for? They're not built for business 1014 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,640 and they're not built to keep users safe. 1015 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,320 So who the fuck are they for? And, and by the way, I'll tell 1016 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,760 you this. I mean, you guys are traders. 1017 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,840 You are, you know, not that's really not fair. 1018 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,640 You're much more than traders, but you like to trade. 1019 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,960 That's one thing you'll. But we we love to trade. 1020 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,880 We love to. Trade you love to trade and and 1021 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,360 think about this way. Do you really like everyone just 1022 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,800 like following your wallets broke. 1023 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,360 I mean, you're do. You guys, you were with me in 1024 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,920 2021, Naveen. You, you you were by my side. 1025 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,440 Yeah, I mean. This year specifically, I like 1026 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,800 it really hit home with me. I don't know if you saw the 1027 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,520 story about the Chicago man. I don't know if his details were 1028 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,520 were leaked in the Ledger leak or how have you found out 1029 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,920 they've connected skids like that that that was that was a 1030 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,040 few blocks like less than a mile from me. 1031 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,720 Oh dude, that's crazy. I'm not, I mean what by any 1032 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:21,600 means, but that's like that's very scary. 1033 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,400 It's like I keep more and more people see that in the need for 1034 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,520 pregnancy. You were a. 100% I think we've 1035 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,560 seen it more this year, Tyler, because there's been so many 1036 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,520 more crimes and they've been more public because usually 1037 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,080 they're very private. You don't talk about these 1038 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,000 crimes now that crypto's cool, the media picks up on it. 1039 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,840 But you're right, Naveen, you don't always want people to just 1040 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,400 look into your thing. Or even there was a moment in 1041 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,520 time really on rock radio where I had to pay my employees in on 1042 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,920 in crypto because I didn't have any off ramps. 1043 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,720 No banks wanted to. We were bank list for a long 1044 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,840 time. And I, I don't feel comfortable 1045 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,200 that just the average person can go and see how much one of my 1046 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,400 team members paid. I think it's not fair to them 1047 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,200 either. It's just unfair to them. 1048 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,360 Forget me. It's unfair to them that people 1049 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,440 look into their stuff. It's just not how things should 1050 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,760 work. Well, I mean, I mean, we could 1051 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,920 get into a whole like ideological conversation about 1052 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,760 how, you know, if you, if you take away people's privacy, 1053 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,200 you're really taking away their freedom. 1054 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,600 Because you know, there's this concept of a panopticon where 1055 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,800 you know, if you feel like you're being watched, like I 1056 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,280 want you to imagine like you're on like, I don't know, the 1057 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,760 subway or somewhere or something. 1058 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,800 And you know, someone is watching you. 1059 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,320 And you, you kind of like, I don't know about you, But 1060 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,040 sometimes when I feel like people are watching me, I don't 1061 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,280 know what to do with my hands. You know, like I'm like, well, 1062 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,920 do I put my hands down or I would cross my arms or like, 1063 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,880 what do I do? And then, you know, inevitably 1064 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,640 we all have these devices now with us. 1065 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,120 So like, I'll pull out my phone because like I'm uncomfortable 1066 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,320 that someone's like fucking watching me and I don't know why 1067 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,440 they're watching me. And So what people don't realize 1068 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,520 about default surveillance systems is they actually change 1069 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,200 your behavior. If you know that you're being 1070 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,760 watched, you may not do all the things that you normally would 1071 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,240 do. You're not able to be your full 1072 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:03,600 self. And if you're not able to be 1073 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,720 your like full or true self, are you really free? 1074 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,920 That's really the question. So that's like a big like 1075 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,000 ideological thing. But anyway, last thing about 1076 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,920 Tari is the other, the other thing about this industry we 1077 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,160 think is like completely fucked up is, is like the lack of 1078 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,480 support for builders from 100% of the surveillance chains. 1079 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,520 Like the surveillance chains are basically universally dog shit 1080 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,000 for builders. And I know that's a big 1081 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,680 statement. So let me kind of like justify 1082 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,200 it for a second. OK, So you think about someone 1083 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,480 who builds an app for like your, your like your iPhone or 1084 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,440 something, right? Why do people want to go through 1085 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,440 the pain of doing that? You know, you have to pay Apple 1086 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,040 a fee to have a developer count. You pay up to 30% of gross 1087 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,520 revenue when you ship your your app on, on iPhone. 1088 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,920 You got to go through some crazy ass approval process. 1089 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,360 You know, there's like a bunch of interns, you know, looking at 1090 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,800 every fucking app, you know, making sure the guidelines are 1091 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,480 being followed. You know, the Apple guidelines, 1092 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,360 they're super draconian. Why do people do it? 1093 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,960 There's one reason. And the reason is because Apple 1094 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,240 gives you distribution. Apple gives you users, they give 1095 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:17,160 you customers, right? When you ship an app on Solano 1096 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,240 or Ethereum, how the fuck do you get distribution? 1097 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,640 There's no App Store, there's no discovery. 1098 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,560 Like you have to be chronically online on the timeline or in 1099 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,160 some group chat to even learn a new app ship. 1100 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,560 Like a new app could have shipped while we're on this, you 1101 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,760 know, having this chat right now and no one would know about it. 1102 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,120 I mean, you might know about Afro 'cause you're like one of 1103 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,680 the most plugged in people in the fucking world, but I won't 1104 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,120 know about it. How am I gonna know about it 1105 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,960 right And and that's the crazy part about this industry is that 1106 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,240 it makes it almost impossible for new products to grow. 1107 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,040 And that's why I want you guys to really think about this. 1108 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,880 There's probably less than 50 super successful apps across all 1109 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,840 chains in the industry. I I'd be surprised if you can 1110 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,400 name more than 20, like right now, you know right? 1111 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:12,760 Like magic, Eden, Uniswap, maybe Jupiter, you know? 1112 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,240 Well, they're all Dexes, they're all exchanges, right? 1113 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,880 Like all the ones we're going to name. 1114 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,880 And then the ones we're not going to name are probably 1115 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,560 irrelevant because they were relevant 2 years ago, but 1116 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,520 they're. Out of right, Yeah, you. 1117 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,000 Know so it's just like the market it's like most of them 1118 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,480 are not even on chain right. They they accept crypto like all 1119 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,000 the casinos, etcetera. They're not really on chain 1120 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,320 apps. It's like Myriad's the only 1121 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,680 technically on chain prediction market. 1122 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,360 Hollymark is the killer and Cal, she's well cooking right now. 1123 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,920 I love them, but for now. You know, for now. 1124 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,840 For now, but. But here's that's for now, but 1125 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,040 you're right, here's the thing. How many, how many multibillion 1126 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,440 dollar companies have been created on the iPhone? 1127 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,880 I mean, think like Uber, Instacart, Airbnb, you know, on 1128 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,360 and on and on and on. How many? 1129 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,720 I mean the games, how many games? 1130 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,120 So many. A lot. 1131 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,000 Yeah. A lot. 1132 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,560 OK, well, why? Because they provide builders 1133 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,680 with the one thing they need more than anything in the world, 1134 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,560 which is distribution. So what we realized, we said, 1135 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,920 OK, for Tari, we're going to build this crazy easy to mining 1136 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,560 app, easy to use mining app. We're going to work our butts 1137 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,600 off to get as many people to start mining Tari as possible 1138 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,560 and make it fun and interesting, exciting for as many people. 1139 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,160 And then in the future, what we're going to do is we're going 1140 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,440 to change. We're going to change the 1141 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,720 interface for Tari universe to look some point, something like 1142 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,120 this in the future. OK, so the idea is we're going 1143 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,320 to turn it into a fucking App Store, right? 1144 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,120 So you, you, you download the software for free from the 1145 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,920 Internet. It's open source. 1146 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,320 You start mining Tari on your Mac or PC. 1147 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,080 It's so easy to use that your like grandmother can do it and 1148 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,440 she's earning coins and your own earning coins. 1149 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,040 Everyone's earning coins. And you'll be able to go 1150 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:02,600 directly from the coins you've earned to using them on apps 1151 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,720 that are natively built on Tari. And then for builders, we say, 1152 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,840 hey, look. You don't have to negotiate for 1153 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:15,720 a tweet from the Swiss Dubai, Abu Dhabi Foundation, Cayman, 1154 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,280 the Cayman Foundation for from some, you know, bullshit 1155 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,720 surveillance chain. We're going to put you in the 1156 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,840 fucking App Store. We're going to put you right 1157 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,320 here in every user's hands that are mining Tari. 1158 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,480 And as the number of Tari miners grows, the value of the 1159 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,480 distribution grows and it becomes a better and better and 1160 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,200 better developer platform. So those are the three insights. 1161 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,240 So let me ask you so I love the App Store approach. 1162 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,560 This is you, we you and I have talked about this, but that's 1163 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,600 the reason why we went to abstract and not the other L2 is 1164 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,240 etcetera is because, you know, I like the idea that Luca similar 1165 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,680 vision than yours and I love the difference between. 1166 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,040 So Tari is an L1, right? I want to clarify that for for 1167 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,960 people, OK, that's focused based on privacy, similar to Monero. 1168 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,280 The other thing is so two question is one how do someone 1169 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,120 how does someone mine because Tyler wants to mine I. 1170 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,280 Want to start mining? What do I need to know? 1171 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,920 Is my electricity bill going to jump to 1000 a month? 1172 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,560 Like what so there? You go, so how does someone 1173 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,200 mine? And then, yeah, how long have 1174 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,360 people been mining for? But first, like, let's get into 1175 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,040 like how how does someone You've got a lot of people excited, 1176 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,040 including Tyler. Obviously, I'm always sad about 1177 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,440 what you're doing. So how does someone start 1178 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,400 mining? So all you have to do is visit 1179 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,080 is visit tari.com and download what we call Atari Universe, 1180 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,600 which is the name of this app That's it. 1181 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:43,840 So you download it, you install it and you run it and, and after 1182 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,760 it syncs and goes through a process, you'll be up in mining. 1183 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,200 Right now it takes a little bit of time, maybe 1520 minutes to 1184 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,800 sync up with the network, but we're launching a new version 1185 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,680 this week where it we've dropped the sync time down to like 2 1186 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,480 minutes or less. So basically it's going to be 1187 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,400 fast. You download it, you install it, 1188 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,160 you run it and then that's it. And then you know, people have 1189 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,760 been mining on the test net now for you know, since like October 1190 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,040 ish of last year, at least using Tara universe. 1191 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,720 We had earlier test Nets than that, but using Tara Universe 1192 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,280 and, and we have this thing called the AirDrop game where 1193 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,800 you you mine, you know, these gems. 1194 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,880 So you can see I have 146,000 gems and basically you get gems 1195 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,840 as you earn block rewards through mining. 1196 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,120 The more gems you have, the larger your AirDrop will be. 1197 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,680 Obviously I don't qualify for the AirDrop. 1198 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,680 So this is all, you know, my gems are going to go away. 1199 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,320 They don't, they don't count, but but I got to test it. 1200 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,400 So there you go. And so yeah, that's basically 1201 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,680 it. I mean, it's that simple. 1202 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,320 And then, yeah, we're launching the main net, you know, later 1203 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,360 this month. And it's, it's just intended to 1204 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,520 be a completely like everyone is zigging. 1205 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,720 You know, they're like, oh, we're going to do the launch on 1206 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,000 the big centralized exchange and it's going to be a high FTV, low 1207 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,200 float. And you know, if you look at 1208 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,560 the, the data, I mean, you guys have the data over the last 1209 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,600 year, all the listings on, you know, the big exchanges are 1210 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,560 basically like this. You know, they're, it's like you 1211 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,200 were, you were kind of an idiot for buying at the top. 1212 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,200 Tari is a completely different vibe because it's organic, 1213 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,560 right? So it's at day one, there's very 1214 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,320 few tokens in the market because you got to mine them, right? 1215 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,000 So basically, I have a bunch of people out there who are mining 1216 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,960 these TARI tokens, and Tari builds up organically and 1217 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,280 everyone kind of rises together. And I think that's a far better 1218 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,560 outcome for everyone in the community than like, Oh yeah, we 1219 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,160 were backed by some giant VC and listed on a centralized 1220 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,760 exchange. And now The thing is worth $7 1221 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,640 billion overnight. And you're like, how the fuck is 1222 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,880 that? Show me, Show me how it towards 1223 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,120 $7 billion. It's like to me. 1224 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,360 So I'll show you one last thing. When we think about Tari, 1225 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,960 there's really only one thing that matters in our world, OK? 1226 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,520 And that is this. If you go to our block explorer 1227 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,560 OK, at the very top of the page we show the number of active. 1228 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,960 Minds. 5502 active miners on this test net right now. 1229 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,080 But these are not just users, dude. 1230 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,760 The average Tari miner spending almost 5 hours a day mining. 1231 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,800 These are not users. These are operators, OK? 1232 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,920 These are people who have deep conviction and passion for this 1233 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,160 thing because they're putting their compute and their 1234 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,000 electricity and their time into it, right? 1235 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,960 It's a completely different equation than some bullshit 1236 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,440 active wallet count TVO. You know, like, look how many 1237 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,400 people tweeted about my shit. It's like, fuck that. 1238 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,560 These are miners, man. These are people who are mining 1239 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,640 this shit, right? So that is a completely 1240 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,520 different level of conviction than what you have with the 1241 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,040 other protocols. And as this number just grows 1242 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:02,320 over the course of time, then that shows how the usefulness of 1243 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,280 the protocol continues to grow. And it and that's really, it's 1244 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:10,160 really that simple. So can people still hop on? 1245 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,200 I know we're we're over time a bit here and we're going to have 1246 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,480 to wrap up. But just quick question because 1247 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,400 it came from from our intern here on the side chat. 1248 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,360 So can people still hop on now prior to So you FTG, you're 1249 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,880 going to mainland today, tomorrow. 1250 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,560 No, no, no, later this month, later this month. 1251 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,360 So there's, there's. OK, sorry, you're still early. 1252 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,160 I promise you're still early. So you can. 1253 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,440 Start right now in mine. 100% if you started today, you're still 1254 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,040 early, it's still in test net. And the other reason to do it 1255 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:46,280 besides gems and maximizing a potential AirDrop is you can run 1256 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,840 the experiments on your system so that you're ready for 1257 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,000 mainnet. Because otherwise you wait till 1258 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,960 mainnet, you've not tried it, and then you go, Oh my God, you 1259 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,920 know, is my system working properly, whatever. 1260 01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,960 You you need a crazy computer set up like gamer crazy. 1261 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,320 I, I am. I am literally doing this call 1262 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,680 with you right now while on mine. 1263 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,280 I know I could tell. You on my laptop? 1264 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,520 Yeah right. So so I'm mining on my. 1265 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,320 Laptop. Tyler's setting it up right now. 1266 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,080 This Yeah, Tyler is probably already sorted. 1267 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,520 I, I I can. See, he's just. 1268 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,360 I I literally can I, I can already tell this guy's 1269 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,680 ontari.com and he's yeah. So that's what was happening. 1270 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,480 Like stop, I noticed that because it says top left, like 1271 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,680 stop mining. He's just collecting these gems. 1272 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,440 So, so this is great. I mean, hey, there's some alpha 1273 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:39,000 for y'all, you know, on here. You know, there you go. 1274 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,920 He won a block. But you know, stop 1275 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,320 miningtarry.com. It's going to be a fun one. 1276 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,640 It's going to be a lot of fun apps on there and we're going to 1277 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,760 be cooking with with with with Tari on the decrypt rug radio 1278 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,960 myriad side. So I'm very excited to to work 1279 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,000 with Naveen a little more here. It's going to be a lot of fun. 1280 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,520 It's going to be a lot of fun. All right. 1281 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,640 Well, Naveen, any last things you want to share here? 1282 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,160 No, dude. So grateful for the opportunity 1283 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,440 to come and hang with you guys. Thank you for having me. 1284 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,920 I'm a huge fan of, of, of both of you and everything you guys 1285 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,280 got going on and the whole rug radio and myriad crew and LOX 1286 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,280 and the whole team. And yeah, we're just really 1287 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,560 excited. Just do something a little bit 1288 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,920 different. You know, we're, we're kind of 1289 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,240 tired of the same faster TPS. You got to go faster, Faroque. 1290 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,000 If you don't go faster, then it can't scale for a billion 1291 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,160 people. And I'm like, bro, where's the 1292 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,240 billion people? Are they gonna, are they all 1293 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,400 gonna KYC? Are you gonna, are you gonna 1294 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,720 scan their retinas? All their retinas? 1295 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,920 Scan the retinas. Show me the retinas, Faroque. 1296 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,560 I want a KYC. You're going to, you're going to 1297 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,080 fucking ask me for my fucking driver's license every time I 1298 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,320 fucking pull out my Dick, you know? 1299 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,800 Come on man, let's do something a little fucking different for 1300 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,960 once. I love it. 1301 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,960 I love it. The beat. 1302 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,880 I'm stopping the show here because that was too good. 1303 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,520 Thank you guys for having me. We're we're we're stopping you 1304 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,520 here in Naveen. Naveen. 1305 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,400 Thank you so much for for coming here, man, that was fun love you 1306 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:16,319 dude have the best week ever see you man Oh man, that was good. 1307 01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:17,560 I did. I love Naveen. 1308 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,880 I'll see some of my best conversations, some of my you 1309 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,040 know a lot of my inspirations, even our trying to shape craft 1310 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,560 everything that we're doing on the myriad side. 1311 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,640 Whenever I, I got a roadblock, I just called this guy and he's 1312 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,840 always got some good advice. Anyways, look, we're yeah, he 1313 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,000 is. And he's OG. 1314 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,920 Like he's the type of guy like he comes on the show. 1315 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,080 He, he doesn't just talk to talk, right? 1316 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,560 Like he, he's been doing it. He's been doing it for a minute. 1317 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,840 So you guys should definitely check out tyree.com start 1318 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,279 mining. Looks like Tyler's got a new 1319 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,640 miner here. We got, we got someone in the in 1320 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,080 the comments saying he's been mining for three to four months 1321 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,399 already. So absolutely love that. 1322 01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:55,800 So go to tyree.com start mining. One last thing. 1323 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,840 If you go on on on my Twitter and on Rodrigo's Twitter, we 1324 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,160 officially announced a Dubai event. 1325 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,920 You know, sadly, I have to go to Dubai. 1326 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,399 I go there once a year. So that's about as much as I can 1327 01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:07,880 handle. And so we're dropping a banger, 1328 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,040 though I, I go in there and make a splash and I leave. 1329 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,279 So we got our event in partnership with Infinex and a 1330 01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,319 whole bunch of other people and that's live. 1331 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:17,279 So if you want to apply to come apply because last year there 1332 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,840 was 600 people at the event. Tyler, they shut down the doors 1333 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,800 and there was 600 people more downstairs trying to come up, 1334 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,880 but we can't fit more than 600 people. 1335 01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:28,560 OK? So don't, don't do this to me 1336 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,040 again. Calling my phone saying you're 1337 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,120 Farooq's friend. Sign up. 1338 01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:36,000 No one's Farooq's friend. When, when, when I got in the 1339 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,080 bed going on unless you sign up. Tyler, I'll see you tomorrow and 1340 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,319 everybody is well. See you tomorrow morning, 10 AM 1341 01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:43,720 Eastern Standard Time for the episode. 1342 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,080 For my episode from our auto log radio. 1343 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:47,120 Let's go.