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Yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, what up? 
What up? 

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Good morning, Good morning, GM. 
GM, it is Tuesday, right? 

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I'm not crazy. 
It is Tuesday, September 19th, 

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2023. 
Look at that. 

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Another beautiful day. 
To have a beautiful day, I got 

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my cohost. 
In the house? 

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Ah, man. 
Smiling. 

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I that that you're happy I'm 
back, huh? 

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It makes me happy too, but he's.
Like I was, I was, I was happy, 

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but it is I didn't have to bring
the energy. 

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But that was that's good. 
I can be a bit more chilled as a

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cohost. 
Exactly. 

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No, but it's good. 
Listen, I was thinking about 

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this today. 
Are you saying that yes, I'm 

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like, well, my utility is the 
energy, right? 

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So if you had the energy, then 
like you're you're taking all 

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the utility away from me. 
So then I'm like, you know, so 

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it's good, it's good, you know. 
But I got my cohost in the 

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house. 
OSF Mando. 

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Good morning. 
What should I say? 

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Good afternoon. 
How y'all doing today? 

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Good, good. 
I can't wait to get back on 

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London time zone. 
Like, I feel like by the time 

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I'm I've like woken up and like 
shout and everything. 

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I'm like I've missed half the 
day here, like it's like it's a 

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struggle to catch up. 
It's crazy. 

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I'm the opposite of you. 
I much much, much prefer hosting

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at 10:30 in the morning cuz it's
like I have my routine like wake

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up meetings, host right and then
and then I'm free from noon. 

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It's like all meetings in work. 
I think it depends on if you're 

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a morning person or an afternoon
person. 

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I'm definitely a morning person,
so it's like I have to do all 

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that stuff in the morning, but 
then it messes up with the golf 

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schedule for sure. 
It definitely, well, yeah, It 

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definitely messes up with the 
golf schedule because you have 

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to play in the afternoon. 
So yeah, for sure, It definitely

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messes up with the golf as I 
mean. 

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There was like some easy to use 
newsletter just just caught you 

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up straight away. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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No, but it's not. 
Like this comes out like maybe 

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an hour before you wake up. 
I don't know what that would be.

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You're talking about Nifty 
Portals newsletter, right? 

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Like, that's the best newsletter
in Web 3. 

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Yeah, where is it NFT now? 
No, it was it's the It's the 

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Morning Minute by by Tyler. 
Tyler D. 

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Morning Minute MM I think it is.
I think it's the right. 

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Or is it the rug radios. 
Daily Topical post one. 

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Of them. 
Yeah, I feel like we're missing 

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one. 
There's a really good one called

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the Modern Market Snapshot by 
Bcheck. 

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That's a good one as well. 
Love them. 

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There's a really good account 
called Elena, Elena ETH or 

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something and she does like a 
good daily update. 

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You know if you missed if you, 
if you. 

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Missed everything encrypted to 
it? 

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Don't worry because she's got 
you. 

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No, I think he's talking about 
the guy who's on vacation now. 

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And this is true cuz ever since 
he's been on vacation, I don't 

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get my best subscription minutes
every day I'm Wally. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Wally switches with you as well.

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Yeah, you might as well to race 
quit this show. 

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Right now I'm. 
Good. 

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Save me. 
Save me. 

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We're not fading, you 
motherfucker. 

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I was just on your website. 
I'm like the first, the first, 

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like the. 
I just saw it. 

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The first bubble that comes up 
is faroque, the best crypto you 

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spit these days. 
I'm right there. 

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I'm also always like one of the 
first five likes, that's for 

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sure, because I got on, you 
know, I'm early actually. 

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You know, from punk nine to five
nine yesterday. 

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Just cool, cool. 
Everyone else out. 

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You saw, You saw my you saw my 
reply. 

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It's so funny. 
I'll try to reply but it so I'll

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show you right now on the 
screen. 

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In the day, I didn't know. 
I didn't know that it happened. 

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Here's the weird thing with 
Twitter, right? 

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Or X? 
Every Every time I try to reply,

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it posted as a tweet. 
And so yesterday I put this 

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tweet out and it just goes, I'll
show you it goes. 

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Hold on. 
Where is it, man? 

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Do minutes. 
I'm like why did this tweet it 

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out. 
It was a reply to this. 

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So I have a tweet that just says
bad no minutes. 

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And people are probably like 
wait what the hell is this here?

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As I'm sure it's just a minute 
I'm like I didn't tweet that out

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I was replying yeah so and I was
like why does my reply to 9550 

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likes? 
I'm like am I going to ratio 

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him? 
Anyway it's just And then his 

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reply to mine was great too. 
We love the Minutes. 

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This response is sponsored by 
Robic. 

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It's so hard. 
I reply to it just for the the 

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crying, crying guy. 
I mean, I thought, I thought it 

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was good. 
But hey, like, it's fair. 

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You know what it is though. 
And I think that the fact that 

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we named all these people is 
there's a lot of good content 

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now in Web Three. 
Like genuinely inventing where 

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there's some tennis, there's 
like, there's a lot of like, 

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whatever, whoever you like, 
whatever you don't like. 

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There's always someone to like 
catch you up on things and 

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whatnot. 
I do think that you know when it

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comes to shows and you know 
minutes and all this good stuff,

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you know, rock radio man 
minutes, DJ's for the front tech

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shit right now. 
Y'all. 

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I played around with it for the 
first time this morning I think 

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or yesterday that was pretty 
cool. 

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But you know we, I think this 
crew here, we've got it covered.

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But anyways, we've got our five 
topics for today that we're 

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going to be jumping to but 
before before before this show 

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is powered right at little 
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So if you go to cracking.com 

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Make sure you do it though. 
It's good for your boys. 

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And by the way I literally use 
cracking as my personal off rank

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in Canada. 
I've been used before we even 

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start working with them. 
So I was like hell yeah this 

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perfectly on brand for your boy.
So David's got five top picks 

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for y'all. 
They're gonna all five of them 

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are gonna be great and I'm still
getting the hang of this new 

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thing. 
I do want to go quickly slide 

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and shout out to my friends 
because that is up 100% boys and

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I see Mando is going hard. 
Now I'm just competing with the 

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plebs AKOV while Meadow has 
fully taken off and away from 

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us. 
We're on different category. 

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You know, he's the I, actually. 
Did 33 yesterday I saw he owns 

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he owns a ton there. 
I started. 

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He's going to do it. 
KVMS it's like and I did, I 

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bought like 12 people but it 
took me like 40 minutes. 

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Is it cuz it still takes time to
buy like going and? 

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You have to do a lot to do it. 
Yeah, you know I have a couple 

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of very expensive people that 
rage quit because they realized 

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that wasn't gonna buy your keys 
if it's to eat. 

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But listen, it is what it is. 
It is what it is. 

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But today's top is your five top
is a Bitcoin breaking 27 K F35 

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going missing. 
What the fuck is ton telegram 

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coin NFT volumes and friend 
tech. 

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And then last not least monthly 
subscriptions on eggs but also 

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will be joined at the end of 
show by the one only Victor Fee 

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Walsh. 
So that would be fun as his drop

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is coming. 
Embarrassing, but anyways, 

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anyways, Anyways, without 
further ado, Mando, why don't 

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you kick it off with topic #1? 
Yeah, so what's been going on in

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crypto for the last 24 hours? 
Bitcoin did go up, just about 27

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K You've got to about 1675. 
What you did see is a big rise 

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in the open interest. 
Open interest is the number of 

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the total number of shorts and 
longs in the futures markets, 

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the perks markets. 
Then you had a big wipeout. 

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I think Bitcoin went down to 
like 26 1/2. 

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ETH went down to 1635 and most 
of that open interest that have 

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been building up over the day. 
It was a big, big increase. 

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One of the biggest increases 
we've seen in weeks kind of all 

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got wiped out and it felt as 
though we were about to chop 

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around for a little bit longer. 
And then this morning Bitcoin 

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went back above 27 K ETH is 
still underperforming. 

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What you've seen is Bitcoin 
dominance has gone up a lot. 

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So the ETH Bitcoin ratios at the
lows of the year, Bitcoin 

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dominance is back above 50%. 
There's just a lot of positive 

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center. 
Sent around Bitcoin in 

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particular most probably with 
the ETF coming up. 

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But yeah you're seeing 
outperform most altcoins out 

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there. 
But yeah just generally a better

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better day. 
There were some headlines 

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yesterday we did say remember 
that finance was going to be 

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having its hearing at 3:00 PM 
that ended up happening thread 

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doors were all over it that the 
big headlines come out of that. 

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Is that the the auditor for 
finance us? 

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Said that they did have trouble 
at times checking the 

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classization of finance. 
US basically checking that they 

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had the money and that there was
some intercompany loans it looks

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like or loans from CZ. 
Basically CZ funded the BAM 

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account with about $250 million.
It looks like BAM is one of the 

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entities connected to finance, 
which they are claiming was 

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potentially to do with some 
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When I look at this, it looks 
very, very likely that CZ 

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basically controlled this BAM 
holding account. 

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So the idea of some sort of 
proprietary trading or insider 

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trading seems very likely to me.
That being said, this doesn't. 

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This doesn't look again, there's
no smoking gum with respect to 

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insolvency. 
In my opinion, there's no 

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smoking gum with respect to 
misappropriation of funds or 

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anything like that. 
People some people have like, 

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looked at this wrong and said 
this is like SBF when SBF took 

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out loans from FDX for his own 
personal use. 

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This is not what that is. 
This looks like CC has actually 

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put money into one of these now.
Now you pick your poison. 

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This doesn't make it seem even 
more like it's a it's insider 

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trading. 
But it doesn't necessarily make 

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it look like it's it's some form
of of insolvency or like dodging

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us in that respect. 
So I think they can come after 

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him for for insider trading for 
sure and then the but the but 

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the judge actually ruled in 
favor of of finance overnight he

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said that calm down the US was 
was hoping to go in there and 

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like basically just. 
Ask for all the tech to be 

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revealed, all the messages, 
everything. 

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This judge was like, no, you 
have to go through a longer 

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process, so violence wanted like
a temporary win against the SEC.

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Again, this is all Finance US. 
This isn't finance Global 

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Finance US is a tiny fraction of
the market right now. 

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My my view is that it will no no
longer exist in the coming 

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months, alongside maybe some of 
their European entities. 

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So do it that way, you will. 
I mean it is a bit of, I saw the

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headline at first because I was,
I was curious to see what was 

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going to happen, right. 
I had a trade on close it before

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because I was like too scared 
anyways. 

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But but I was just like, I I was
just looking at it. 

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I was like wow, are we going to 
get some like crazy news? 

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And I saw it. 
I was like, oh, OK. 

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But it's just interesting the 
fact that they keep comparing it

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to FTX from the outsider 
perspective when like Sam 

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Beckman Free was just doing that
to like pompous shit coins and 

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like fun like his Amazon 
deliveries with his private jet.

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And then you have like finances 
like he's actually putting his 

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own money to try and like keep 
his shit afloat. 

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Now look, I don't know what that
means for B&B. 

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You guys know better than me. 
But you know I don't. 

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I think that you know all the 
Adam Cochran's of this world are

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kind of like trying to push the 
needle a little too much. 

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And I think the fearmongering is
kind of not needed in this case.

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It's easy innocent. 
I don't know. 

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He is one of the biggest names 
in crypto. 

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So probably not but also I 
don't, you know probably like a 

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little little tap on a you know 
slap on the wrist fine. 

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And and, you know, let's get, 
let's get back to, let's get 

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that back to up only, you know. 
It feels like he was running a 

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well funded version of Alameda. 
That's what I would say, like 

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that's what it looks like. 
It doesn't. 

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Mean that he is. 
Everything's insolvent, but it 

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definitely looks like he had his
own private trading firm within 

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finance, which he was funding 
and most probably had a lot of 

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information to. 
Which kind of makes sense. 

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Everyone always says, you know, 
like trade on finance, they have

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all your information. 
Like they clearly have some 

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internal market makers who are 
making money off the back of you

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like it's. 
It's unsurprising. 

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Most probably illegal, but it 
doesn't necessarily mean you're 

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not getting your money back that
way. 

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We're not in that world, which 
is the FDX world. 

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Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
I remember my first time I used 

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Buy Nuts. 
It's gonna it's it's definitely 

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it's definitely it's definitely 
weird. 

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Now. 
Thinking about this was like 

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banning Canada now. 
So anyways, you can't even use 

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it. 
That's why he's cracking. 

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There you go. 
There you go, little plug while 

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we're at it, that's interesting.
Mine anyways, we got the Fed and

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all this stuff, all y'all's 
numbers. 

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I always going to get busy on 
the show starting tomorrow, 

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Thursday and Friday. 
You have a lot to talk about. 

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But anyways I think I think I 
said on the marketing on 

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markets, I just, I have a quick 
question. 

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Like I know we weren't meant to 
like necessarily talk about 

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this, but you mentioned 
something about like East the 

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other day like how it's trading 
at like certain percentage of 

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something. 
I said in your minutes is like 

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one of your main topics and I 
couldn't come and show that I 

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was just. 
Curious model which is based on 

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the number of users. 
Of the L twos, it was just a 

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valuation model that somebody 
purported and it said that Eve 

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is trading at a 27% discount 
versus the total number of users

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of across L ones and L twos. 
And this is compared to other 

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blockchains. 
So it was just a valuation 

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model. 
That said, it looked pretty 

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cheap, which is kind of true. 
Like one thing that you've seen 

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is a growth in the number of EVE
addresses on both L ones, 

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Bitcoin and EVE, but also a 
massive explosion. 

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In the number of addresses on 
each L twos like base Matic at 

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least the EBM side, ZK, 
optimism, Arbitram like they the

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number of users has really gone 
exponential at that layer. 

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So the the idea is that and that
hasn't really shown up in each 

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data right like it hasn't really
grown. 

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So it's it's basically saying 
that with the with the user 

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growth that we've seen across. 
The L2 network that it should 

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be, it's massively undervalued. 
All right. 

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Well, I guess we'll see what 
that takes us, right market, I 

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think it's going to be mostly 
the over the week. 

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So we'll see what happens in the
Fed. 

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But anyways, topic #2, today, 
topic #2, I mean, we saw people 

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make a little, little piece 
about it saying that he's found 

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it, right? 
Because I believe the F35 was 

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was lost in North Charleston. 
So there's an F35 fighter jet 

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that crashed in South Carolina 
after the pilot ejected, and 

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they can't seem to find it. 
And I think that from what I've 

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seen, they're asking the people 
now to like, there's like a 

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bounty out there, trying to, 
like, help find the plane. 

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What the hell is going on over 
there? 

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Are we going? 
They found debris. 

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This is like the main like I 
don't know mainstream media news

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source that have thing that 
happened yesterday. 

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Yeah, they have a F35. 
Got lost got lost. 

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I think the the pilot ejected 
it's a stealth it's a stealth 

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fight of this like it's they are
traditionally very, very 

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difficult to find and they said 
that when he ejected it may have

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also hurt like the the 
communication equipment and then

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they just like lost it for a few
hours like in a rural but not 

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that rural place in in America 
on the East Coast near near 

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Charleston. 
And then, yeah, it looks like 

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they found debris, so it's now 
all been found. 

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But that was a weird story 
yesterday. 

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Given this is $100 million jet, 
this isn't just some small thing

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that you can just lose 100. 
Yeah, these jets cost a lot, 

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right? 
So maybe it's linked to the 

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aliens. 
Yo, that's crazy. 

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Do we? 
Do you guys talk about the 

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aliens? 
That might miss a lot of cool 

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shit because I was talking with 
Danny and Vanessa. 

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I don't. 
Know if you tried to do a lot of

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alien chat, actually, like when 
we tried to do more of the 

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mainstream stuff, we tried to 
focus on like the the the same 

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thing. 
I think I don't know about you 

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guys, but that that stuff 
definitely fake. 

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Anyways, It's real. 
You think those little, if 

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that's what aliens look like, 
they can come from me. 

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I'll kick him right in the face,
like. 

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Careful what you say, man, 
because. 

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We say to our. 
People, physically they may, 

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this may seem very weak, but 
they have powers that we don't. 

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It's true. 
It's true. 

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You're short. 
Like like the two of us short 

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kinks, you know, we. 
I wouldn't. 

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I wouldn't piss them off. 
I'm just saying, I wouldn't piss

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them off either. 
You know, Amanda, you don't know

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what it's like to be short, but 
short people, They're powerful, 

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you know? 
And I saw the cake thing. 

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Sims just sent us the cake 
photo. 

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It's so funny. 
But anyways, that fighter jet 

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thing, that's yeah, they're 
listening. 

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Jello bite say yeah, OSF is 
right, They're listening. 

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I'm like, Oh my God yeah, 
Someone said regarding the jet, 

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the pilot was buying keys on 
Frantech. 

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That's so good, he was probably 
throwing 33 and then the stealth

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jet got lost. 
That's crazy, right? 

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You're talking about it not 
being like that crazy much of A 

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like a a rule a rural area. 
But it's I don't know I thought 

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it was. 
I thought it was interesting. 

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I couldn't find it. 
I mean you know puts the whole 

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stealth word. 
It's a stealth fighter jet. 

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So that happened and I thought 
that was interesting. 

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But anyways, next story here is 
is is ton. 

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So you have like this telegram 
coin. 

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Mando. 
What's? 

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What's up with that? 
Yes, Ton actually overtook 

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Solana yesterday in market cap. 
It's it's like people just 

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haven't been following it in the
FT space. 

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But if you remember back in 
2017, I think Telegram did an 

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ICO coin which they don't have 
to give the money back to. 

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Tom is like a coin which has 
been developed kind of alongside

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Telegram, not by the actual 
Telegram team and it's now being

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integrated into Telegram with 
their own Telegram wallet. 

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So you're going to be out to 
like, do Web three stuff on 

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Telegram now? 
800 million users. 

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So people are saying this could 
now be a competitor to Matter 

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Mask. 
It's also its own blockchain, so

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any apps that can be developed 
on there, it becomes like the 

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gas token. 
It's up a lot over the course of

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this year, I think it was it was
like in the top 30 and now it's 

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in the top 15 of all coins. 
But it's just something to pay 

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attention to. 
Like the two ones that I've been

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seeing which have really made 
the move are this Tong coin and 

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no one called Casper. 
But these are the sort of coins 

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that if we are entering another 
cycle, we think 2024 is the sort

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of cycle, look, Solana did 100X 
on the last cycle, right, that 

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bull market evaluations are 
absolutely insane for new 

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narratives sometimes. 
And I look at something like 

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this and I think it's just 
something to pay attention to, 

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like it's just overtaken Solana.
That's that's how crazy it is. 

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And no one is talking about it. 
So I just, I don't miss that 

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we're out here on TG. 
I'm not. 

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It's in. 
The top. 

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What's the like? 
What does the Techonomics of 

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other look like? 
Like what's the how much of it 

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of the supplier circulating? 
3/5 of it is, is is maybe even 

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close to 80% of it is already 
circulated. 

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So it's largely, it's largely. 
To get them. 

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OK, to economics, but yeah, not 
close to a $9 billion valuation 

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now. 
It's up 43% in just the last 

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seven days alone. 
Wow. 

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Yeah, but introduced in August 
17th, It's been a month already.

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Yeah, it's it's just something 
that we just should all pay 

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attention to. 
I think I agree. 

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And it did like I think it when 
it first came out, it came out 

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like an even higher valuation. 
It's like dip since then, but 

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now it's come back strong. 
Like it's come back strong. 

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I think it hit its all time high
in 2021 and then it kind of came

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back down. 
But yeah, this year has been a 

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very, very strong year for it, 
particularly since like the 

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start of last month. 
It's I think more than doubled 

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over the last month. 
And look, this is kind of the 

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thing we all talk about how 
difficult it is to on board 

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people Meta Mask obviously it's 
an app, it's trying to integrate

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in that way. 
But Telegram is like it could 

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become like the Web three 
WhatsApp. 

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And you do all of your crypto on
it, right? 

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Like, you could this could 
become its own payments network,

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it could do its own, you could 
do a lot of stuff from an app. 

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It's like if WhatsApp decided to
do its own coin or something 

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like that. 
So I feel as though it's 

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something for people to pay 
attention to now they've really 

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integrated it and now it's just 
it's overthinking because it's 

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got that application layer kind 
of dumb, like it's already could

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be used as that very, very 
quickly. 

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And Telegram just has so many 
different users that it seems 

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like a good app to look at. 
I'm not saying the story's like 

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you should buy into tonko and 
like it's up 2 1/2 X in. $9 

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billion token. 
Yeah, it's a $9 billion token, 

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but it's, you know, Solana went 
to 60 billion, maybe lost. 

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Well, in the bull run, maybe 
even high. 

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What did Solana get? 
Too intelligent? 

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It was $250. 
That's it was around. 

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That's where it talks. 
I don't know what 10X from where

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it is now, basically. 
Four. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
It's nearly 100 billion for 

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Solana during the bull run. 
Just a narrative to pay 

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attention to. 
No one in there. 

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I'm in Telegram. 
Right now, yeah. 

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Well, I went to Asia. 
I'm telegrammed in bro. 

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I got folders now. 
I got. 

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I moved a bunch of rugby to 
partnerships on Telegram this 

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morning. 
Like all the people I met over 

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there, I did, I did a bunch of 
chats, group chats, like folders

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going on, active partnerships, 
blah, blah, blah. 

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The alpha, the telegram, because
it's a mess and it's a cesspool 

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of chats is folders. 
Make folders or you're not going

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to have a good time experience, 
let me tell you that. 

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That's for sure. 
So you put, you make a folder, 

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you add things everywhere. 
So that's actually interesting. 

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It could. 
It is kind of a super app in the

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end, right, with that. 
So that's actually super 

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intriguing and interesting. 
Everybody uses Telegram like 

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everybody gets put in touch 
with. 

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That has something going on for 
themselves in space, right? 

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Like it's a disco token as well.
Like it's you can see how very, 

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very quickly if you can onboard 
that many people it becomes. 

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Or if Twitter is its own coin, 
like people will suddenly use 

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it. 
I mean, Speaking of Twitter, why

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don't you hit us with topic 
number three? 

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Well, I thought I'd throw this 
back to you. 

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You're the social media guy. 
Well, but I messed up. 

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I went for Taun because I saw 
the list wrong. 

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Then I had like, you know, I'm 
still getting the hang of this 

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whole like 5 topics of the day. 
Shit, it's so funny when you're 

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like not acclimated something. 
It's almost like a it's not like

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I've hosted over 1000 spaces in 
clubhouse, right? 

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I come in like cold Turkey. 
I'm so freaking lost. 

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All right, well, back to me. 
Well, topic #3. 

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Elon Musk suggest suggest so 
funny that X will soon charge a 

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monthly fee to use the platform.
I mean are we already playing 

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that? 
Oh no, it's too blue. 

448
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:40,230
So it seems like Elon Musk wants
to charge people to use the 

449
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:42,790
platform as a whole. 
I mean if it might quick tell 

450
00:22:42,790 --> 00:22:46,230
you as as user, as a power user 
of a lot of social media 

451
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:49,070
platform is it's great to 
eradicate bots completely and 

452
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:51,310
stuff like that. 
But. 

453
00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:55,220
I feel like a lot of people just
like the free stuff, Like even 

454
00:22:55,220 --> 00:22:57,900
from the little things like the 
second you have free things like

455
00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,300
free merch. 
Like it could be the cheapest 

456
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,860
Gildan or American Apparel 
tshirt with a step on it that 

457
00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:06,900
will wash off on the first wash 
and go from a size large to a 

458
00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:10,500
size extra small and in one wash
people will still fight for it, 

459
00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:12,460
right? 
We know what it's like to get 

460
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:16,220
free things out on Twitter and 
what not in the NFT and Web 3 

461
00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:18,940
space. 
I think if you make something, 

462
00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:22,430
pay to play. 
I think it's gonna remove. 

463
00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:25,670
I think it's gonna remove a lot 
of users from the platform, but 

464
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:26,990
I don't know. 
What do you two think about 

465
00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:28,230
this? 
It's bold. 

466
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:33,270
It's very bold. 
I think it's somebody who would 

467
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:35,750
pay. 
I like it, if I'm honest, 

468
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:41,990
because it gets for me, the 
experience of Twitter has 

469
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:44,950
actually, particularly the 
search function is just a joke 

470
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:48,000
at the moment because of the 
number of bots who are using 

471
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,560
that stuff. 
Like, I can't even search for 

472
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,240
anything. 
So when I'm doing any of this 

473
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,520
new stuff like it's it's just 
like a joke and the replies and 

474
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,280
you can just go to something 
like Manda minutes to either 

475
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,920
fucking replies. 
It's just, it's just. 

476
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,240
Anything it's it's very, very 
difficult. 

477
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,120
So I think bots is a real 
problem. 

478
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,160
I feel this is, this is a big 
risk for Elon though because 

479
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,440
suddenly it might make it look, 
this is really going to expose 

480
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,640
how many people are actually on 
Twitter And for a company like 

481
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,520
Twitter, which the financing of 
that deal was tough and I think 

482
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,600
it's the bonds are now trading 
and they're trading at like 70% 

483
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280
or 80% of face value. 
So they're trading at a 

484
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,800
discount. 
I think it does put a lot of 

485
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,880
stress on the situation, but I 
actually think it would improve 

486
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:44,430
my use of like from a purely 
selfish perspective, I think CT 

487
00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:49,350
would all stay on it and I think
I think it would improve the the

488
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:52,790
actual situation. 
But it's a slippery slope. 

489
00:24:52,790 --> 00:24:55,550
I agree. 
Like maybe once you start 

490
00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:59,350
introducing a small payment, it 
becomes a big payment and you 

491
00:24:59,350 --> 00:25:01,870
know you do see what happens. 
Like Netflix? 

492
00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:05,430
Now you're paying like 25 bucks.
Or like the Netflix is whatever 

493
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:07,470
the hell it is. 
I don't know, like someone said 

494
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:10,230
something pretty good. 
Now I'm curious to hear what you

495
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:12,270
have to say over about this, but
it said. 

496
00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:15,060
Can be the world's town square 
if you have to pay to get in. 

497
00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:18,260
And I think Elon's pride and joy
about Twitter and he's talked 

498
00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:19,980
about a lot and even saw some of
the stuff about his 

499
00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:23,900
autobiography is that Twitter is
like the town square of the 

500
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:25,300
world. 
Like he just isn't he doing like

501
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,420
a spaces like Netanyahu and all 
that stuff. 

502
00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:30,460
But yeah, like he did the bunch 
of presidential election stuff 

503
00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:33,500
leading up to it. 
I think by removing that you 

504
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,100
remove that for example the 
election stuff he's doing. 

505
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:37,580
I think it's cool. 
Like, I like that he's getting 

506
00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:41,340
like, you know, Democrat and 
Republican people to come in and

507
00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:43,790
interview them. 
So the people won't actually be 

508
00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:46,150
able to listen to it. 
And a lot of people maybe don't 

509
00:25:46,150 --> 00:25:47,310
pay for cable, don't pay for 
this. 

510
00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:51,350
And if X is that app or that's 
what the ethos of Twitterize 

511
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:56,790
was, I feel they removing that. 
And I think that like, I don't 

512
00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,630
like token gating content, which
is also why we don't token gate 

513
00:25:59,630 --> 00:26:02,310
our content at rug radio, even 
our show included. 

514
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:04,630
I think it should be 
democratized access to education

515
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:07,310
and to what we're doing and the 
extra stuff, maybe what you're 

516
00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:08,750
offering for that. 
Plus I like friend tech, it's 

517
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:10,790
like this extra layer. 
Hey you want to get more info 

518
00:26:10,790 --> 00:26:13,060
from what Mendos giving out? 
Pay for it, right? 

519
00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:16,580
But I don't know. 
I don't like the idea of social 

520
00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:19,180
platforms being paid or play. 
What do you think, Ovi? 

521
00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:22,460
Yeah, you can't. 
It can't be completely 

522
00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:24,340
inclusive. 
If you have to pay to get in, 

523
00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:29,180
like it's just going to, it's 
going to cut out a large amount 

524
00:26:29,180 --> 00:26:33,180
of people and it will gear the 
twisted population to a certain 

525
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:34,980
demographic. 
Whereas like right now it's like

526
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,700
you have all ends of the 
spectrum, pretty much everything

527
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,260
in the world right now because 
it's free. 

528
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:41,820
The problem is bots. 
Like how do you stop bots and? 

529
00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:46,470
I think, I actually do think to 
his credit, the bot situation 

530
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:48,550
has improved dramatically now 
compared to before. 

531
00:26:48,550 --> 00:26:52,150
Like you do have to have lots of
verification requirements and if

532
00:26:52,150 --> 00:26:54,350
you create a new account then 
they keep doing all these checks

533
00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:55,510
and stuff to make sure you're 
not bots. 

534
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:57,750
I do think the bots situation 
has improved a lot actually. 

535
00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:02,070
It could be better and I think 
they just have to keep that. 

536
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:06,230
Like the focus should be on 
keeping on creating tech to 

537
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:08,470
prevent bots rather than paying 
the whole thing behind the 

538
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:10,920
paywall because. 
It will change Twitter for it. 

539
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,760
The best thing about Twitter is 
you will have like people at all

540
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,520
extremities in like the human 
world in terms of their beliefs 

541
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,680
and thoughts and ideologies. 
And that's where you get so much

542
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,640
debate and like arguments on it 
because you'll get like, I don't

543
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,240
know, someone really left wing 
and someone really right wing 

544
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,400
having just like like a random 
debate. 

545
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,840
And that happens all the time. 
So I think losing that would 

546
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,080
kind of lose Twitter as like 
this. 

547
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,410
Like Town Square, as whoever put
it that way, I think is a good 

548
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:47,330
way to put it. 
But Elon has to keep it afloat, 

549
00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:52,170
doesn't he? 
Like he has to show some money 

550
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:54,650
into some cash flow coming in. 
So how do you do that? 

551
00:27:55,370 --> 00:27:59,570
I would say that I agree with. 
I mean, I wasn't thinking about 

552
00:27:59,570 --> 00:28:04,310
it enough, like internationally,
like maybe $1.00, but that might

553
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:08,310
that might hurt uses like it is 
a global town square, right? 

554
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:12,030
Like $1.00 or whatever could be 
very expensive for people in 

555
00:28:12,030 --> 00:28:16,470
lots of different places. 
So even if it's comparatively 

556
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:21,510
cheap for Elon living in, you 
know, Palo Alto, that could be 

557
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:23,790
very different to like the 
world. 

558
00:28:23,790 --> 00:28:28,150
So I do think that could hurt, 
it could hurt the diversity of 

559
00:28:28,430 --> 00:28:32,350
conversation and particularly 
things like crypto, right, like 

560
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:38,390
where you're really trying to 
like often awaken those sort of 

561
00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:39,790
geographies. 
Yeah. 

562
00:28:40,670 --> 00:28:43,350
Yeah, I guess we'll see where 
that goes. 

563
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:46,670
But obviously the selfishly, 
you're right on the selfish 

564
00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:48,070
part. 
It's like we're all It's not 

565
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:50,670
gonna affect that much if 
anything's gonna clean out my 

566
00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:54,490
feet, but it's like. 
Those bots, man. 

567
00:28:54,490 --> 00:28:56,050
I you know what it makes me 
like? 

568
00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:58,370
It repulses me from like reading
anybody's replies. 

569
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:00,650
Like I don't want to read any 
replies anymore cuz I'm just 

570
00:29:00,650 --> 00:29:02,970
like, why would I bother? 
Like I just read the tweet and 

571
00:29:02,970 --> 00:29:05,090
get over with. 
But I don't know, I mean, 9059, 

572
00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:07,490
you're on stage. 
You got any takes on this Elon 

573
00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:08,090
stuff? 
For what? 

574
00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:09,450
Good morning. 
Yeah, what? 

575
00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:10,730
Can you hear me? 
Yes, Sir. 

576
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:13,970
I mean I got so many takes on 
this. 

577
00:29:14,050 --> 00:29:17,570
Like I feel like bots is like 
this pet issue for Elon. 

578
00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:20,750
That it's like he's just so 
obsessed with it and I think 

579
00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:23,910
it's because if you go back to 
the beginning of when he took 

580
00:29:23,910 --> 00:29:25,950
over Twitter, he said I 
shouldn't have to do it because 

581
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:28,150
it's all bots. 
And like they said, you still 

582
00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:30,190
got to do it. 
And his pride was on the line 

583
00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:33,790
and he's just on this like war 
with bots and he is failing so 

584
00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:36,590
miserably that he just keeps 
doubling down on it. 

585
00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:39,520
I'd say that. 
The impact of bots on my 

586
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920
experience as a user, someone 
who spends a lot of time on 

587
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Twitter or spends a lot of time 
on X. 

588
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,480
Like the impact of bots is very 
minimal. 

589
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,400
Like, they're there, they're 
annoying as fuck. 

590
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,800
But it hasn't gotten better at 
all. 

591
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,680
Like it's the one issue he's 
talked about since he took over 

592
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,470
and it hasn't improved at all. 
And the idea that charging money

593
00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:57,310
is suddenly going to get rid of 
them is crazy. 

594
00:29:57,470 --> 00:30:00,350
The bots that are fishing for, 
the bots that are out there 

595
00:30:00,350 --> 00:30:03,550
fishing for, you know, to take 
all our money, like you think 

596
00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:06,390
they care about paying $8. 
You think they're less, you 

597
00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:09,430
think they're more price 
sensitive than our users are. 

598
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:10,710
And what ultimately is going to 
happen? 

599
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:12,550
The bots aren't going to go 
anywhere, just like everything 

600
00:30:12,550 --> 00:30:13,710
he's done hasn't. 
Worked but. 

601
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:16,510
What's going to happen is people
like you and me are going to 

602
00:30:16,510 --> 00:30:19,790
lose our audience because. 
Yeah, there are a lot of people 

603
00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:21,750
all over the world. 
I know a lot of people who have 

604
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:23,350
plenty of money. 
We just don't wanna pay $8 a 

605
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:26,070
month already and we're just 
gonna lose audience and it's 

606
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:28,550
gonna make it a worse place for 
us to build because our 

607
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:32,350
potential reach as people who 
use Twitter, who build out our 

608
00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:34,710
ex platform because we want 
reach, that's what we care 

609
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:36,310
about. 
That's kind of the dopamine hit 

610
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:38,110
we go after is gonna get 
crushed. 

611
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:41,940
The more people have to pay. 
So it's I like, but it's all 

612
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,620
because it. 
I feel like we're watching this 

613
00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:46,380
like, madman with this just 
weird obsession with bots. 

614
00:30:46,580 --> 00:30:48,860
And the rest of the users were 
kind of like, yeah, they're 

615
00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:51,540
annoying, but you can't, you 
can't win this battle. 

616
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:53,740
And we care about other things a
whole lot more. 

617
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,060
And he's like, I got to do it 
because of bots. 

618
00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:58,740
I mean, I literally feel like 
I'm just watching someone in 

619
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:01,700
their own obsessive world that 
makes zero sense to anyone. 

620
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:05,420
Else. 
Yo that that that's a that's a 

621
00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:08,420
take right there. 
That's a take right there 905. 

622
00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:10,460
I like that like that like 
that's a ticket. 

623
00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:12,260
I think you're. 
I think you're pretty right. 

624
00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:16,020
He is obsessed with bots, says 
the first day he. 

625
00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:17,500
And it hasn't gotten any. 
Better. 

626
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,340
It did not get any better. 
And you and it's those laws, 

627
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:21,540
right? 
Those laws. 

628
00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:24,740
But now it's bad, Bad. 
Well, yeah, one could argue at 

629
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:27,780
the margin like this is gone 
this, but like not like. 

630
00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:30,810
My experience as a user who 
spends hours a day on that 

631
00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:33,450
platform is like it was annoying
then, it's annoying now. 

632
00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:35,930
It's basically not in change and
I care about other things. 

633
00:31:36,010 --> 00:31:37,450
A lot more. 
It's crazy. 

634
00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:39,850
We have to deal with two things 
on CT We have to deal with the 

635
00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:44,490
cesspool of bear market and 
people's takes and also the 

636
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:47,530
bots. 
We're just getting hammered from

637
00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:50,010
both sides. 
Every morning I wake up and just

638
00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:54,770
get pushed in the balls twice. 
But it is what it is anyway. 

639
00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:57,570
That's why I'm having so much 
more fun here on the YouTube, 

640
00:31:57,570 --> 00:31:59,570
which by the way, remember 
subscribe to our YouTube channel

641
00:31:59,570 --> 00:32:02,210
if you're a rug video, you know 
it's so clean. 

642
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:04,650
Oh my God, I love it. 
They clean out everything. 

643
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,810
I like that. 
I see there's if I'm not 

644
00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:09,050
mistaken since talking about 
some WRECKED video stuff going 

645
00:32:09,050 --> 00:32:12,450
on for channel wise to see how 
we can cook those shorts anyway,

646
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:14,450
so make sure you go there some 
good stuff. 

647
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:16,370
Speaking of wrecked on us 
tomorrow, so we'll talk about it

648
00:32:16,370 --> 00:32:18,530
tomorrow. 
Guys are fire against coming on 

649
00:32:18,530 --> 00:32:20,570
tomorrow. 
Can be fun, but anyways, last 

650
00:32:20,570 --> 00:32:23,530
topic man. 
Though to you, baby, well, 

651
00:32:23,530 --> 00:32:26,130
actually we have nine and five, 
nine here, so he's the person I 

652
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:28,930
took. 
I know, it's so good. 

653
00:32:30,130 --> 00:32:32,250
I am just an aggregator of 
views. 

654
00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:37,170
But yeah, like it looks as 
though frantic volume is just 

655
00:32:37,770 --> 00:32:40,810
destroying NFT volume at the 
moment in terms of comparative 

656
00:32:40,810 --> 00:32:42,930
size. 
It's the sixth straight day that

657
00:32:42,930 --> 00:32:44,850
it beat it. 
NFT volumes I think hit a year 

658
00:32:44,850 --> 00:32:49,000
to date low like breach through 
the yesterday low by about 30% 

659
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,360
on Sunday. 
It definitely and it's all the 

660
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,480
same crew, right It's it's just 
the NFT community is now moved 

661
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,440
to trading front tech alongside 
maybe some CT people but it's 

662
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840
just the same people. 
But we've all just decided to 

663
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,280
move there. 
You've seen some big sales some 

664
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,640
in the NFT world and interesting
like gaming has really come back

665
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,440
as a narrative these, these 
Sugar Town NF T's have done 

666
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,220
well. 
There's been a few other like 

667
00:33:17,780 --> 00:33:22,620
wins kind of go up like 0.51 E 
So some of those those assets 

668
00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:25,180
have come back. 
Some of them are like before the

669
00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:28,740
game even comes out, some of 
them are off, the game comes 

670
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:30,100
out. 
But that seems to be the only 

671
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:33,740
real area which is doing OK at 
the moment. 

672
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,940
But yeah, if I bring up degens 
it's it's been a very, very 

673
00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:42,810
quiet and not a not a very 
healthy period for the last 30 

674
00:33:42,810 --> 00:33:46,410
days in in NFT world 
particularly for some of the for

675
00:33:46,410 --> 00:33:50,770
like the top collections. 
You know what I really mean that

676
00:33:50,770 --> 00:33:53,210
this is the I I I don't even 
know what any of these floors 

677
00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:55,210
were for last week and 1/2 for 
two or three weeks. 

678
00:33:55,570 --> 00:33:56,770
This is my first time looking at
it. 

679
00:33:57,930 --> 00:34:00,330
I I have no clue. 
It's and it's just exact same as

680
00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:04,090
when I left two weeks ago and 
came back on the show something 

681
00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:11,810
lower but but it the volumes 
right board H is 660 that's 

682
00:34:11,889 --> 00:34:13,409
that's done a lot. 
Yeah. 

683
00:34:13,929 --> 00:34:19,449
Where I bought H now. 24. 
Yeah, it seems to be this. 

684
00:34:20,409 --> 00:34:22,650
It seems to be like flat. 
They seems to have like stalled 

685
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:24,690
out here, haven't they? 
Like they've been in this range 

686
00:34:24,690 --> 00:34:28,610
now for a few weeks and we had 
that small pump and then we came

687
00:34:28,610 --> 00:34:31,570
back down again. 
But yeah, I don't know like, I 

688
00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:34,409
just don't see my timeline is 
like nothing to do with Nft's 

689
00:34:34,409 --> 00:34:35,530
anymore. 
Maybe that's because? 

690
00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:39,960
Of the stuff that I'm. 
Is being curated for me, but 

691
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,719
yeah, and the volumes just. 
No, no, NFT people are only 

692
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,520
talking about coins and and 
especially I mean I know thread 

693
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,239
guy had his mega mega space last
night. 

694
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,280
Like even thread guys, thread 
guys not doing NFT spaces bro. 

695
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,800
You know, I mean and that's like
one of the I mean look at us, 

696
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,280
look at, look at us, look at the
boys before us, nifty portal 

697
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,920
those guys they're talking about
like Conor McGregor and shit on 

698
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
the show and going viral, 
talking about like pop culture 

699
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,000
stuff you know what I mean? 
And look at our content, our top

700
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,280
five. 
I mean, of course it's crypto 

701
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,370
heavy and. 
We it'll continue to be but when

702
00:35:10,370 --> 00:35:13,530
you look at everything it's it's
it's really it's gonna be 

703
00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:16,770
different and I and I'm not 
putting art in this category at 

704
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:19,730
all because the art and there's 
a lot of topic conversation and 

705
00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:22,290
this and that is a lot of stuff 
going on that front and and what

706
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:26,490
not but it's it's really it's 
been interesting to see that 

707
00:35:26,530 --> 00:35:29,690
when will we see a return I I I 
don't really know I'm going 

708
00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:31,570
through these I haven't gone 
through down to the list of the 

709
00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:34,530
top 100 on Dgens in a long time 
guys I'm really just like 

710
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:37,300
scrolling through. 
But everything Penguins might, 

711
00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:39,940
might flip mutants. 
It's flipped everything right? 

712
00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:43,100
Like Pudgie's is now flipped. 
Azuki and Bego is pretty. 

713
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,340
Comfortable as it should though,
as it should though. 

714
00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:47,780
And Luca keeps talking about 
something that's coming very 

715
00:35:48,220 --> 00:35:49,820
that something big that's 
coming. 

716
00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:52,820
And Full disclosure like he will
be coming on our show very soon 

717
00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:56,940
and you will be hearing him as a
special guest very soon on on. 

718
00:35:56,940 --> 00:35:59,180
And I had the chance to have 
breakfast with him in Singapore.

719
00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:01,740
And that guy, he's got that dog 
in him. 

720
00:36:02,030 --> 00:36:06,790
Like it's just like nonstop and 
and you know as as he should it 

721
00:36:06,830 --> 00:36:10,870
it he should be the number 2 by 
default after that the board 8. 

722
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:13,430
Like it should be pudgy Penguins
if you ask me at this moment. 

723
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:16,590
Like in terms of utility PFP 
meta it should be that right? 

724
00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:20,510
And then when I look at you guys
like of course, of course I'm a 

725
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:21,790
fan. 
Of course I'm bias, not talk 

726
00:36:21,790 --> 00:36:24,270
right guy. 
But even things like that, the 

727
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:27,790
art meta never left the utility.
PF P's are getting trashed and 

728
00:36:27,790 --> 00:36:31,100
actually destroyed. 
The queen that should be rising 

729
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,860
in my opinion should be the more
the art focused PFPS. 

730
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:37,540
I love the MFS still like I love
the fact that I saw that tweet 

731
00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:40,180
that went viral. 
We can copy pasta to from from 

732
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:42,740
the junior like the classic one 
about like their budgets. 

733
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:44,740
Now they have no funding and 
it's not, but they're still like

734
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:48,060
the output is pretty big. 
Like I remain a fan of those. 

735
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,740
And I do think that if you look 
at bull market narratives, once 

736
00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:53,020
everyone's done playing with 
their friend tag, 33 shares and 

737
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:58,470
all that stuff, you know. 
It's it's a lot going on right. 

738
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:01,030
But but 905, I mean it is your 
tweet that that were that we 

739
00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:03,750
were showing on the screen here 
with regards to volumes and what

740
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:05,750
do you what do you make of all 
this But thanks for the shout 

741
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:09,190
out earlier I saw I saw 90 NFT 
statistics tags I'm like yes I 

742
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:13,310
made a stat I made a stat and it
was about my friend tech share 

743
00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:17,150
doubling. 
Oh wow. 

744
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:18,350
Yeah. 
My focus are. 

745
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:21,430
Fading me, bro. 
I almost felt insulted. 

746
00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:24,740
I'm like, dude. 
I really needed to come back to 

747
00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:28,580
this goddamn show, huh? 
But talk to us more like What's 

748
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:32,700
your take on all this? 
I'm I'm trying to find a good 

749
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:37,140
metric for how to like measure 
this actual market buy versus 

750
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:38,660
sell. 
Volume actually is kind of 

751
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:43,300
interesting because you know, I 
mean I can, I can pull it up. 

752
00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:45,700
Yeah, it's different from NFT's 
and NFT's. 

753
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:49,500
Every trade is a buy and a sell,
right, because so volume. 

754
00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:53,820
Volume is kind of lately in NFTS
actually for for most of like 

755
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:57,700
the blur era, like high volume 
days have been down days like 

756
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,140
high volume days have not been 
good for NFTS because more than 

757
00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:02,500
50% of Blur volume is people 
dumping into bits. 

758
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:06,100
So volume is not a great metric 
on friend tech. 

759
00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:10,180
It kind of isn't bad because 
every trade is either a buy or a

760
00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:12,020
sell. 
So you can see like you know, 

761
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,860
like you can see our were there 
like was there a lot of buy 

762
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,220
volume or was there a sell 
volume because you're trading 

763
00:38:16,220 --> 00:38:18,220
against the bonding curve, not 
trading against another person. 

764
00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:20,980
So that's like. 
Want to be interesting metrics 

765
00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:22,580
is like buy volume versus sell 
volume. 

766
00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:25,820
I've started like building some 
indexes though that look at the 

767
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:30,940
top 250 keys yesterday and like 
how did how did the top 250 keys

768
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,300
for everyday trade over the next
24 hours. 

769
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,420
And that stuff at least recently
has all been pretty flat. 

770
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:39,020
I feel like things have been 
pretty much flat since Friday. 

771
00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:43,380
The thing I really want to dig 
into is understanding how much 

772
00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:46,420
money people are losing to fees,
because I just think like. 

773
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:51,540
I just think like with with 20% 
fees on in and out and the fact 

774
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:53,500
that we're getting a little bit 
of saturation here. 

775
00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:56,860
This just has to be like one of 
the like overtime if you're 

776
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:59,780
missing out on the initial pumps
like this just has to be like 

777
00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:02,460
one of the most easy negative 
trades out there just given 

778
00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:04,460
you're paying 20% fees for every
trade. 

779
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,300
And I think a lot of the reason 
people think they're up so much 

780
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:10,380
is because like they're 
unrealized gains are big because

781
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:13,980
they're just holding. 
But like, I don't know it's 

782
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:15,960
like. 
Yeah, there's a hundred, the 

783
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,720
overall market caps a little bit
over $100 million total youth 

784
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:22,920
put in has been about $35 
million something maybe a little

785
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,520
bit more, but overall like 
people think they're up a lot 

786
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200
relative to how much has been 
put in. 

787
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,040
So I I, I just kind of want to 
dig in a little bit to what's 

788
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,640
actually happening on the PNL 
front. 

789
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,000
Those are all just thoughts on 
data. 

790
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,120
I could ramble forever on 
thoughts of like what's actually

791
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,600
going on here. 
But you know, we we, I feel like

792
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,130
everyone's doing that right now.
When? 

793
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:49,610
When's your friend tech coming? 
That's the real question here. 

794
00:39:50,850 --> 00:39:52,170
I said and launched. 
I like. 

795
00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:54,530
I've just been like busy with 
other stuff and I just don't 

796
00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:55,690
like. 
Yeah dude, what the hell? 

797
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:58,650
You don't have a friend tech. 
I don't have one and I'm not 

798
00:39:58,650 --> 00:40:00,530
like against doing it. 
I just like haven't. 

799
00:40:00,610 --> 00:40:03,050
I like wanna have a day where I 
like actually have time to 

800
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:05,890
respond to people if I go on 
there cuz I hate when I'm on A 

801
00:40:05,890 --> 00:40:08,020
room. 
Like I have an alt accounts, I'm

802
00:40:08,020 --> 00:40:10,380
in a few like I'm a I'm a 
keyhole. 

803
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:14,020
Are you OX5C F whatever the 
fuck? 

804
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,860
No. 
I I put in literally less than 

805
00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:20,020
.1 es like I I own like 3 keys 
and they're all not worthwhile. 

806
00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:23,060
Do you have my? 
Key 33, Hell no. 

807
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,180
And I'll definitely not be 33. 
Like, I'm not going into any of 

808
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:27,820
that stupidity. 
Not stupid. 

809
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:28,700
I mean, you guys do what you 
want. 

810
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,460
I think there's like, value 
there, but that's like, that's 

811
00:40:31,460 --> 00:40:36,420
just not for me. 
No, I mean ultimately like. 

812
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:42,900
That 3/3 was beating if you were
just coming on there as an 

813
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,620
influencer or even if you're 
like trying to provide value. 

814
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,980
I think what we saw over the 
last week is that 33 just beats 

815
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,700
that 33. 
It just beats it. 

816
00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:56,020
Well, no one wants. 
But then the next one is, what 

817
00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:58,700
are you thinking? 
Like if they want to know, you 

818
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,540
think the other ways to get 
ahold, you're not going to, 

819
00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:02,260
they're not going to pay $1800 
for that. 

820
00:41:03,250 --> 00:41:04,650
Well, I do. 
Think there is value in some of 

821
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:06,890
the chats I do. 
I do think now it's going to be 

822
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:08,690
like 3-3. 
Everyone runs out of money. 

823
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:10,810
Like there's no doubt everyone's
going to start running out of 

824
00:41:10,810 --> 00:41:14,210
money. 
Now the next move here is right.

825
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:15,610
We've all done 3/3. 
Now. 

826
00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:20,170
Now what's valuable? 
So I think that's true 33. 

827
00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:23,770
I feel like right now people 
just want to go in there to 

828
00:41:23,770 --> 00:41:25,650
chat, like which friend tech 
keys are going to pump. 

829
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:27,490
And like 3-3 is kind of part of 
that. 

830
00:41:27,490 --> 00:41:30,490
Like it's like you're in there 
to pump Frantech. 

831
00:41:30,610 --> 00:41:32,530
That's what, 33 signals, it 
signals that. 

832
00:41:32,530 --> 00:41:34,690
Like you're not like, it signals
like you're there. 

833
00:41:34,690 --> 00:41:36,050
You don't care who buys your 
key. 

834
00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:38,690
You're just there to like be 
part of this. 

835
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:41,370
You're there to be part of like 
the pure financialization of 

836
00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:45,090
Frantech, AirDrop, whatever, you
know, And that's just not a game

837
00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:47,850
I personally want to play. 
Like, I just like, I don't want 

838
00:41:47,850 --> 00:41:51,290
the money that I'll get from fee
generation enough to want to 

839
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:54,370
waste my time doing that. 
And kind of it's for my 

840
00:41:54,370 --> 00:41:56,090
reputation. 
It's just not like the type of 

841
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:58,990
where I've been acting in this 
space and I don't know that that

842
00:41:58,990 --> 00:42:02,150
that just made. 
It time you heard the man, you 

843
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:05,470
heard the man. 
So anyways so thanks for your 

844
00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:06,990
take so but just to make sure 
though that you know if you're 

845
00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:08,550
going to make a friend take you 
know hit your boys up. 

846
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:12,790
That's the other thing. 
I got literally everyone's D 

847
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:14,710
Ming me. 
Everyone's D Ming me and I'm 

848
00:42:14,830 --> 00:42:18,750
like my my good friends like 
people I know and and care about

849
00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:21,270
in real life are like DM me. 
Like tell me when you're done. 

850
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:23,270
I'm like guys are all. 
You're good friends. 

851
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:25,720
You're all losers. 
You're all losing. 

852
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,680
You're Dming me about making 1.2
E so you can beat a bunch of 

853
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,960
people on a stupid. 
Party. 

854
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Get the fuck out of my DMS. 
I'm sorry. 

855
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,480
I'm not Dming him. 
I'm not Dming him about that. 

856
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,080
I'm not Dming him. 
Come on. 

857
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,240
But you're good friends. 
How about y'all y'all are my 

858
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:43,920
good friends? 
You all are. 

859
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,240
I'm just saying I got like, 
we've hung out a lot. 

860
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,630
I'm just saying when Pew like 
I've I've gone off on people. 

861
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:52,950
I'm like guys. 
I mean, this can get this like 

862
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:55,390
it's just so dumb. 
You can tell you could. 

863
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:57,870
Who hurt him? 
Who hurt him? 

864
00:42:58,830 --> 00:43:00,870
Who are my boy? 
I was just in Korea with him. 

865
00:43:01,430 --> 00:43:03,590
This is so happy. 
Pain all coming out. 

866
00:43:03,790 --> 00:43:06,590
I was at the deep emotion 
exhibit with him and he was 

867
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:08,590
vibing. 
He was like smiling with taking 

868
00:43:08,590 --> 00:43:11,550
photos together, you know, and 
who hurt the man. 

869
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,360
Who heard the man? 
It's frantic. 

870
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,880
Hurt this man. 
God damn it. 

871
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,960
Anyways, thank you for coming 
up. 

872
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,320
And I like the hot listen. 
I like the hot taste, cuz the 

873
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,000
other night I was similarly I 
was like. 

874
00:43:22,580 --> 00:43:23,700
Why would do this three three 
thing? 

875
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:27,180
Because at some point you run 
out and then the value will rise

876
00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:28,620
to the top. 
But I do think that if you has a

877
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:31,220
perfect mix of that and this and
that, it could be interesting. 

878
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:33,900
But anyways, I'm sure we'll talk
about frantic a whole lot more 

879
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,700
and it coming. 
I think all that that's the 

880
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:38,700
other thing like I think like 
for its purpose like the purpose

881
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,500
of this is like make money on 
the shortterm liquidity 

882
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,220
injection, right, Like there's a
shortterm liquidity injection 

883
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:47,020
here like and it could be longer
term because there's the AirDrop

884
00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:48,940
coming. 
We saw we know that airdrops can

885
00:43:48,940 --> 00:43:51,020
be lucrative. 
I think there's like there is a 

886
00:43:51,020 --> 00:43:54,570
game here that is very I have 
nothing against people playing. 

887
00:43:54,610 --> 00:43:56,450
I think it's super. 
It makes sense. 

888
00:43:56,490 --> 00:43:58,050
Like this isn't like this is 
taking over. 

889
00:43:58,050 --> 00:44:00,730
This is the place to make money 
right now and people are making 

890
00:44:00,730 --> 00:44:02,850
money. 
Like the fees people are making 

891
00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:04,650
are crazy. 
That's real money. 

892
00:44:04,930 --> 00:44:08,210
This is not like that aspect, 
like it's legit, you know? 

893
00:44:08,210 --> 00:44:10,170
So I'm not like hating on it in 
general. 

894
00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:12,330
It's just that's not something I
want to play right now. 

895
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:15,250
That's it. 
Listen, I guess we'll see. 

896
00:44:15,370 --> 00:44:18,290
I guess we'll see. 
And the none of us know, none of

897
00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:20,250
us know. 
But we can only keep on trying 

898
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:21,330
and staying Chris. 
But anyways. 

899
00:44:22,030 --> 00:44:27,630
Anyways, that was the big last. 
Those were the five big topics 

900
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:31,950
of the day when it comes to 
everything. 

901
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:34,550
So obviously you can always see 
the recaps and whatnot on 

902
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:35,870
YouTube. 
We always stream live on 

903
00:44:35,870 --> 00:44:36,710
YouTube, we actually stream 
live. 

904
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:39,790
Also video on on, on X. 
Hopefully that doesn't go to 

905
00:44:39,790 --> 00:44:43,790
zero once there's monthly 
subscriptions and and then but 

906
00:44:43,790 --> 00:44:46,630
anyways that's when I see fewer 
in the studio, fewer. 

907
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:49,230
I see cameras, You see this 
camera on. 

908
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:53,820
Can you guys see the back end? 
I'm so freaking funny. 

909
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:55,220
Oh my. 
Good. 

910
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:59,020
Hello. 
Good morning, GM, GM, everyone. 

911
00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:03,660
Based on yesterday, we have fuel
on today. 

912
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:06,700
You both were together, you 
know, traveling around Korea. 

913
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:08,340
I just want to ask you, like, 
because we were talking about 

914
00:45:08,340 --> 00:45:09,980
Korea yesterday and like the art
world and stuff. 

915
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:10,900
What did you make? 
What was? 

916
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:13,180
Because I love defenses, kind of
takes on that. 

917
00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:15,540
How What did you make of your 
trip in Korea? 

918
00:45:16,070 --> 00:45:18,750
Oh, I loved it. 
It was so great. 

919
00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:20,550
I don't know. 
Everything was just better. 

920
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:24,630
I was like, Dang, it was. 
So the cars were quieter. 

921
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:29,430
I don't know it was. 
Just yeah, I noticed that you do

922
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:33,070
not hear a thing. 
Dude, I swear I almost got hit 

923
00:45:33,070 --> 00:45:36,550
by a car like five times because
I was walking and there 

924
00:45:36,590 --> 00:45:39,550
sometimes there's no sidewalks. 
So I would just walk and then a 

925
00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:40,990
car. 
I would be like, where'd that 

926
00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:43,950
car come from? 
And then I came back to New York

927
00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:47,050
and it was really loud. 
I was just like ow. 

928
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:48,730
Well, yeah, you're in New York 
too. 

929
00:45:48,770 --> 00:45:49,930
I mean, you know what? 
What? 

930
00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:51,810
That's one thing, guys. 
In single port, there's no 

931
00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:53,770
sidewalks. 
And I was like, but is it 

932
00:45:53,770 --> 00:45:55,570
illegal to jaywalk? 
There's a lot of hella illegal 

933
00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:57,530
things there, like chewing gum. 
So, like, am I going to go to 

934
00:45:57,530 --> 00:46:00,690
prison if I, like, walk for 
like, jaywalk here when the 

935
00:46:00,690 --> 00:46:02,570
Torres, Jaywalker, French after 
all. 

936
00:46:02,770 --> 00:46:06,410
But in in Seoul is the same 
thing, except that you do not 

937
00:46:06,410 --> 00:46:08,610
hear a thing. 
And let me tell you all by the 

938
00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:09,930
way, Amanda. 
Oh, I gotta say something. 

939
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:12,690
Their electric cars with their 
Kias and the Hyundais over 

940
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:16,510
there, they're looking nice. 
Like you to those electric cars,

941
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:19,150
the cheapest standard Taxi. 
Uber's why it was called that 

942
00:46:19,150 --> 00:46:22,470
song. 
It's called Cacao T Cacao Taxi 

943
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:25,110
over there. 
You'll feel like you're in like 

944
00:46:25,110 --> 00:46:28,710
a Uber black limousine. 
I don't know what the hell. 

945
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:32,790
And it's like and like wow. 
I think it's wow that we don't 

946
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:34,350
have them all on this. 
Car. 

947
00:46:34,510 --> 00:46:37,710
Thank you X and I thought it was
a Mercedes or something. 

948
00:46:37,870 --> 00:46:39,870
He was like, yo, did you know 
this is a Kia? 

949
00:46:40,030 --> 00:46:42,430
And I was like. 
I love that. 

950
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:43,670
That's one thing about it. 
So. 

951
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:47,870
But I I love that you that you 
that you went and that you were 

952
00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:50,110
hopping around with with D Face 
we had on yesterday. 

953
00:46:50,110 --> 00:46:53,270
I think thinking his stuff 
should be opening anytime now. 

954
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:55,630
So the. 
Option is in like 3 hours or 

955
00:46:55,630 --> 00:46:57,150
something. 
So good luck. 

956
00:46:57,150 --> 00:47:00,470
Good luck to D to D face with D 
face and Dks right and. 

957
00:47:00,510 --> 00:47:04,390
I'm gonna hear you, I called. 
Yesterday I was like, oh shit, 

958
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:05,870
but. 
I heard that. 

959
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:07,230
I heard you say that, and I was 
like. 

960
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:11,290
I know, I know. 
I was probably making fun of me 

961
00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:14,210
in the back of it's fuel. 
We're here to talk to you about 

962
00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:15,650
you. 
It's your week. 

963
00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:20,170
Your big week is coming. 
Big week is coming. 

964
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:26,210
The fuels are finally launching.
I mean, this is arguably what 

965
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:28,250
probably the biggest thing 
you've ever worked on. 

966
00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:30,810
You've been working on it for me
because you did come on the 

967
00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:32,170
show. 
I think it was a few months ago.

968
00:47:32,170 --> 00:47:35,000
We we chatted with the boys. 
About fewer world and everything

969
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
you were up to, but this is the 
week. 

970
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,760
I mean, how you feeling about 
all that? 

971
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,360
Oh dude, it feels weird. 
I've never worked on. 

972
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,360
It's been a year and a half. 
I counted 533 days. 

973
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,320
I've never worked on that long 
on anything. 

974
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,280
It's crazy. 
It's weird. 

975
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,440
I'm proud. 
The art is so good, but I don't 

976
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,800
know the, you know, the space 
moves so fast and there's always

977
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,360
stuff happening all the time 
and. 

978
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:07,530
It it's been really cool to just
spend a year making what I think

979
00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:09,490
is the best thing I could have 
made it's. 

980
00:48:09,770 --> 00:48:12,690
Really cool. 
Wow, that's exciting. 

981
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:16,450
So just so so the dates of that 
September 24th and 25th is when 

982
00:48:16,450 --> 00:48:18,730
we're looking at this drop. 
You've been working on it for a 

983
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:20,570
minute. 
I love the teases you've been 

984
00:48:20,570 --> 00:48:21,730
dropping. 
I know you've been going on your

985
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:24,290
Discord and doing a bunch of AM 
A's and kind of like showing 

986
00:48:24,290 --> 00:48:26,050
people the alpha and everything 
you've been building. 

987
00:48:26,410 --> 00:48:28,010
Which one is your favorite 
character? 

988
00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:30,330
And then you got all these 
different characters. 

989
00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:33,990
Which one's your favorite? 
So in few words, there's three 

990
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:35,470
species. 
There's the humanoid, the 

991
00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:37,550
Frankenstein, and a 
misunderstood. 

992
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:41,990
I like Frankenstein's because 
they're super complex and their 

993
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:45,590
eyeballs are falling out and 
they got weird brains and 

994
00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:48,870
they're on fire and bleeding 
everywhere. 

995
00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:52,990
Misunderstood, they're a little 
bit more cutesy and humanoids. 

996
00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:56,710
You know, everyone likes having 
a PFP that represents them, that

997
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:58,150
they feel looks kind of like 
them. 

998
00:48:58,310 --> 00:49:01,550
So those are for those people. 
Which they're cool too. 

999
00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:04,590
But that's crazy, yeah. 
These are all looking crazy. 

1000
00:49:04,590 --> 00:49:07,030
I mean, for anybody who was 
curious about the making of, it 

1001
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:10,590
was actually crazy when you were
talking about the work that went

1002
00:49:10,590 --> 00:49:12,230
to look at this. 
Is that my hair right there? 

1003
00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:16,670
That's crazy. 
It is literally modeled that 

1004
00:49:16,670 --> 00:49:19,620
hair after your PFP. 
How wild is this? 

1005
00:49:19,860 --> 00:49:21,940
There's the hair trait. 
Now we have the Cory Van Lou 

1006
00:49:21,940 --> 00:49:27,140
that did it with us. 
More of the hair trait after me.

1007
00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:29,020
I find that so cool. 
And those characters are so 

1008
00:49:29,020 --> 00:49:29,300
cool. 
What? 

1009
00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:33,780
About that is I've shown that 
trait to other people and 

1010
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:37,140
they're like, that looks like 
Farrok's hair and I'm like it 

1011
00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:39,900
literally is thank you I'm so 
happy. 

1012
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:44,350
It means you did a good job. 
If you really modeled after it 

1013
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:47,550
and you know if if people 
wouldn't realize it, I'd be a 

1014
00:49:47,630 --> 00:49:49,870
I'd be a little worried. 
But anyways, let's get into the 

1015
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:52,150
details of this drop. 
Like this is like, you know, we 

1016
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:54,790
were talking just a few moments 
ago about how in the NFT space a

1017
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:58,030
lot of the stuff has been stale.
I I think obviously like I guess

1018
00:49:58,030 --> 00:50:01,230
a lot of people are scared also 
to like do a drop in this market

1019
00:50:01,390 --> 00:50:02,750
and whatnot. 
But you guys have been working 

1020
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:04,870
on this for over a year and a 
half now because the main I 

1021
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:08,510
remember we were it was when we 
were in LA for NFTLA in February

1022
00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:12,430
2022 that the pain drops, that 
the pain drops sold and now look

1023
00:50:12,430 --> 00:50:14,560
at that. 
Every paint drop gets you one 

1024
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,360
fuel and just free for free for 
convenient freak. 

1025
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,160
Actually, can I ask you, I know 
like a lot of people work on 

1026
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,280
this with you, but for you 
personally, why did you want to 

1027
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,240
make this free for the people? 
Because I think, I think that's 

1028
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,440
a, I personally think it's 
really good decision. 

1029
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:35,160
Well, when I drop paint in 
April, wow, it's crazy how long 

1030
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,750
it's been when I drop paint. 
I said I was like, this is an 

1031
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:42,110
experiment. 
Fuel World is an experiment. 

1032
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:44,750
I don't know what I'm doing. 
I want to make few OHS. 

1033
00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:47,630
I want them to be weird. 
I want to explore, make crazy 

1034
00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:50,270
things. 
Here's paint to start. 

1035
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:54,430
And I did not think as many 
people would buy paint as they 

1036
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:55,830
did. 
Genuinely. 

1037
00:50:55,830 --> 00:50:56,830
I'm not saying that to be 
humble. 

1038
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:59,710
I literally thought maybe like 
1000 people would buy it or 

1039
00:50:59,710 --> 00:51:02,510
something. 
So a lot of people believed in 

1040
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:06,470
it, and I was just like, you 
know what? 

1041
00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:09,610
We're making few O's. 
It's art I love a lot. 

1042
00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:12,970
Y'all believe it in me. 
Here have a free few O thank you

1043
00:51:12,970 --> 00:51:16,530
so much for like paint is so 
weird. 

1044
00:51:16,530 --> 00:51:19,090
What even is that? 
You bought a paint drop. 

1045
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:21,690
What the What? 
Thank you. 

1046
00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:26,550
That's that's pretty cool. 
So you have you also, I wish I 

1047
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:28,590
was in New York actually were 
Speaking of friend tech. 

1048
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:30,870
There was someone in my Friend 
Tech earlier this week that was 

1049
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:32,830
asking me if I'm going to be at 
the at the New York event. 

1050
00:51:32,830 --> 00:51:34,150
You got a little event going on,
right? 

1051
00:51:34,270 --> 00:51:35,830
What is it? 
Yeah, we rented at a movie 

1052
00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:39,470
theater and we made a short film
to celebrate demos, and I'm 

1053
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:42,750
really excited about it. 
Wait, you rented a movie 

1054
00:51:42,750 --> 00:51:44,990
theater? 
Yeah, you made a short film. 

1055
00:51:45,350 --> 00:51:49,390
Yeah, we made a short film 
because because I love, like, 

1056
00:51:49,390 --> 00:51:52,130
this is all art. 
And Filos are all these people 

1057
00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:53,770
and it's cool. 
Pfp's whatever. 

1058
00:51:53,770 --> 00:51:55,410
But it's like, yeah, but it's a 
story. 

1059
00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:58,370
What is the story? 
So we made a short film and I 

1060
00:51:58,370 --> 00:52:01,730
wanna show it and I don't, you 
know, it's cool that we. 

1061
00:52:02,010 --> 00:52:05,130
All are you gonna post this? 
What's this shown to people? 

1062
00:52:05,130 --> 00:52:06,330
Like, yeah, we're gonna. 
Post it? 

1063
00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:09,290
Yeah, we're gonna post it. 
But I wanted someone to watch it

1064
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:12,450
in a cool setting and not just 
on their cell phone, you know? 

1065
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,920
OK yeah, cuz I go to see this, 
like I remember when you did 

1066
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,160
your first short film slash 
story with like the Mr. 

1067
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,360
Misunderstood first character. 
Yeah, came whole trailer. 

1068
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,120
And I remember you back then 
talk about how you one that you 

1069
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,280
wish to make your own movie or 
short film. 

1070
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,960
So it seems like you finally 
made it. 

1071
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,400
This is really cool. 
OK. 

1072
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,720
I'm excited for you. 
So for the people who are here 

1073
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,880
listening, cuz there was the 
person, I think it was, I think 

1074
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,200
he's actually in the audience 
right now. 

1075
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Yeah, it was. 
It was push and pee. 

1076
00:52:38,510 --> 00:52:40,670
He was in that my friend Tech, 
he was asking if I'm coming to 

1077
00:52:40,670 --> 00:52:42,510
your event in New York, so I'm 
assuming he's going to be there.

1078
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:44,470
So that's super fun. 
Make sure you take a bunch of 

1079
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:47,470
photos and videos and send them 
to me, send them to me and post 

1080
00:52:47,470 --> 00:52:50,270
them to the timeline because I 
think it's hella cool that you 

1081
00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:52,230
finally like you're doing your 
movie and all this and that. 

1082
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:55,910
They're finally dropping. 
So this is a big, this is going 

1083
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:58,110
to be a big fuel week and 
there's going to be a lot of 

1084
00:52:58,110 --> 00:53:01,750
stuff going on on there. 
So let me just share actually 

1085
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:03,070
the timeline of it all, because 
there's. 

1086
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,360
It's good for people to know 
what's happening because there's

1087
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,120
a lot of things to to look 
after. 

1088
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,800
Here you got so the snapshot on 
September 25th at 1:00 PM, 

1089
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,200
right? 
Which is for paint holders 

1090
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,640
specifically. 
Right. 

1091
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,560
Well, if you have my art. 
Just like a snapshot of 

1092
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,160
everything for fuel. 
World All things feel the 

1093
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,840
snapshot on the 25th at 1:00 PM 
then you got the paint holder is

1094
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,300
going to be an AirDrop, right? 
Is super cool. 

1095
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,340
So each paint holder receives an
AirDrop. 

1096
00:53:34,340 --> 00:53:36,700
Because I love how you guys even
have the times here. 

1097
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,780
This is an organized a F Look at
that. 

1098
00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:41,260
Oh wait, I'm not sharing my 
screen here. 

1099
00:53:41,380 --> 00:53:42,380
I don't know why it does that 
now. 

1100
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:44,060
It used to like, let me share 
the screen automatically. 

1101
00:53:44,060 --> 00:53:45,100
There you go. 
Now I'm sharing the screen. 

1102
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,140
So then you have the AirDrop. 
Super cool. 

1103
00:53:48,140 --> 00:53:50,460
So that's going to be coming. 
I have hella paint, so I can't 

1104
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:53,700
wait to see my paint. 
Then you can, you can change for

1105
00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:55,220
a temp of the fire. 
Do you want to explain that? 

1106
00:53:55,220 --> 00:53:58,900
Because there's a bunch of 
people that minted big paint, so

1107
00:53:59,060 --> 00:54:01,720
I'm one of them, actually. 
So when I went when you were 

1108
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,800
doing the drop and I hosted 
things, but I still went and 

1109
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,040
bought my own, like I bought my 
own like 20 paint because I 

1110
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,840
wanted a different I didn't want
like 21 paints, I wanted A20 

1111
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,440
paint and some people wanted 
more than just like one free 

1112
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,640
fuel. 
So do you want to explain that 

1113
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,520
what happens with people that 
have more than 10 paints? 

1114
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,120
OK, so this we're about to go on
our journey of information. 

1115
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,880
So if you bought a paint drop 
with more than 10 paint, in that

1116
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,440
drop you get these things called
flowers. 

1117
00:54:28,930 --> 00:54:31,170
And a lot of people are like, 
what the heck are these flowers?

1118
00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:32,530
I don't care about them. 
What? 

1119
00:54:32,570 --> 00:54:34,410
Why are you giving me this? 
I want fee woes. 

1120
00:54:35,050 --> 00:54:38,330
Well, The thing is about those 
flowers is you can choose. 

1121
00:54:38,690 --> 00:54:42,250
You get more fee woes by 
redeeming those flowers. 

1122
00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:46,730
So some people with 20 paint 
have hell of flowers. 

1123
00:54:46,850 --> 00:54:50,330
And if you keep those flowers, 
you can redeem those later for 

1124
00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:52,530
fashion because we'll have a 
dressing room. 

1125
00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:56,050
Your fee woes will be able to 
wear clothes and change clothes.

1126
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:58,740
And that's how you get the 
clothes with the flowers. 

1127
00:54:58,740 --> 00:55:01,620
But if you don't care about 
that, then you can just burn all

1128
00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:06,260
of those and get Morphy woes. 
So that's how that works. 

1129
00:55:06,380 --> 00:55:09,340
It's a lot more complex. 
I suggest looking at my website,

1130
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:10,820
even saying it. 
It's like you. 

1131
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:14,860
Guys are good on the website 
stuff, which is important 

1132
00:55:14,860 --> 00:55:17,220
because a lot of these drops and
Nfts always get a little 

1133
00:55:17,220 --> 00:55:19,860
complicated, but I think you 
guys have done a good work 

1134
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:22,400
actually explaining how. 
Everything works out. 

1135
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,200
So anyways that's that for the 
pin holder side. 

1136
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,760
I need to remember to do that. 
I'm on a different times and so 

1137
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,080
I need to remember that takes to
exchange it for my flowers, then

1138
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,120
the art holder mint, right? 
And that's where like it's not 

1139
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,360
free anymore, but it's obviously
a much lower price .1 to 5/8. 

1140
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,600
And then you have the public 
meant for points for Eve, and I 

1141
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,440
believe you have a. 
You have a different style of 

1142
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,930
like. 
Dutch auction going on for for 

1143
00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:51,210
the rest of the mints, which is 
going to be based on like you 

1144
00:55:51,210 --> 00:55:54,130
know I think it was going to be 
based. 

1145
00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:58,490
So basically what we wanted 
because the markets wild and 

1146
00:55:58,490 --> 00:56:02,050
also I spent a whole year making
this and it's like I don't know,

1147
00:56:02,050 --> 00:56:04,290
I don't know how many people 
want few rows, I don't know, I 

1148
00:56:04,290 --> 00:56:06,210
don't even know. 
I just want to make really cool 

1149
00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:09,490
stuff. 
So how the pricing will work is 

1150
00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:13,330
it's dependent on supply, so 
let's say. 

1151
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,040
Lots of people redeem all their 
flowers for all the fewos, and 

1152
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,480
lots of fewos are getting 
minted. 

1153
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,520
Then the price will be up to the
.4. 

1154
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,000
That's the maximum price fewos 
will be. 

1155
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,240
I think a lot of people saw the 
tweet and they're like .4, what 

1156
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,120
the hell? 
But we don't know. 

1157
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,680
If a lot of people don't mint 
with using their flowers, then 

1158
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,640
let's say there's thousands, 
thousands left. 

1159
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:42,190
Then the price could go all the 
way down to whatever, like we 

1160
00:56:42,190 --> 00:56:46,590
reduced by 5% depending on how 
many 500 fuels are left. 

1161
00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:50,630
So. 
I think, I think this is smart 

1162
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:54,110
because first of all they're 
fully free, like all of them for

1163
00:56:54,350 --> 00:56:57,230
holders, which is cool. 
And then you're you have your 

1164
00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:59,630
art holder at .125. 
But The thing is you can't 

1165
00:56:59,630 --> 00:57:02,710
really not make it. 
So the art holders feel like 

1166
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:05,390
they're not getting something 
out of it for holding your art, 

1167
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:07,510
because a lot of art out there 
and then. 

1168
00:57:07,850 --> 00:57:10,690
You have to also make it make 
sense for the general public but

1169
00:57:10,690 --> 00:57:12,290
that's even if it goes there, 
right? 

1170
00:57:12,290 --> 00:57:14,570
Because I'm I'm pretty sure if 
you got a pain you've been 

1171
00:57:14,570 --> 00:57:18,410
holding this for so long that 
you kind of want your Fero. 

1172
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:21,810
So I I love the mechanics and 
how this is working out. 

1173
00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:23,970
So this all the mechanics side, 
but I don't want to make this 

1174
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:25,690
too much about the mechanics. 
Look, it's all there. 

1175
00:57:25,930 --> 00:57:28,010
You can all see it. 
It's it's on Fero's Twitter. 

1176
00:57:28,210 --> 00:57:30,210
I think it's really cool that 
during an event and that you're 

1177
00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:32,770
you're doing all this. 
You're finally going on with 

1178
00:57:32,770 --> 00:57:34,170
this drop. 
I saw a bunch of threads. 

1179
00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:35,930
I'd actually saw this John 
Savage thread. 

1180
00:57:36,290 --> 00:57:38,930
I think it was like what it was 
earlier today that they came 

1181
00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:40,410
out. 
So yeah, absolutely love to see 

1182
00:57:40,410 --> 00:57:41,570
that. 
So there's a lot of threads for 

1183
00:57:41,570 --> 00:57:43,090
the people that are interested 
in seeing this. 

1184
00:57:43,290 --> 00:57:45,250
And of course like on fewer 
world dot I/O, right. 

1185
00:57:45,250 --> 00:57:47,170
That's the website. 
You can go and see like all of 

1186
00:57:47,170 --> 00:57:50,170
the information which is 
available to everyone. 

1187
00:57:50,330 --> 00:57:53,810
But you know when I think about 
this few, I mean I kind of want 

1188
00:57:53,810 --> 00:57:56,250
to ask you like what excites the
most once this is done right, 

1189
00:57:56,250 --> 00:57:58,450
Like midweek mint day is always 
the worst. 

1190
00:57:58,450 --> 00:58:01,570
I always quote Mando when the 
when we minted rug radio and it 

1191
00:58:01,570 --> 00:58:03,330
was like. 
Expect the worst to happen so 

1192
00:58:03,330 --> 00:58:04,570
that after that you can have 
fun. 

1193
00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:09,370
Then he sat me down. 
Imagine your entire ment is 

1194
00:58:09,370 --> 00:58:13,530
gonna crumble. 
Okay my first time too. 

1195
00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,050
But what excited for about After
Cuz? 

1196
00:58:17,050 --> 00:58:19,250
I think you've been so focused 
with Logan and your team to 

1197
00:58:19,250 --> 00:58:20,810
actually build this out and 
you're. 

1198
00:58:20,890 --> 00:58:23,330
I don't. 
Really feel nervous about men 

1199
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:26,370
because all the paint holders 
are getting the paint. 

1200
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Anyone who wants to get few, 
like that's already or not their

1201
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,920
paint, they're getting their few
O's, that's already 7000 

1202
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,600
something few O's and I'm happy 
they believed in few world from 

1203
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,240
beginning, so they get it and 
then whoever else wants one, get

1204
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,560
one. 
Like I don't know, I don't. 

1205
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,160
I made the coolest thing I 
could. 

1206
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,760
I'm really proud of it and I'm 
really excited about it. 

1207
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,080
And afterwards I really love 
fashion and we made these 

1208
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,520
dressing rooms for the few O's 
which will come out later. 

1209
00:58:56,190 --> 00:58:57,950
And I wanna make clothes for the
fuels to wear. 

1210
00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:59,870
I wanna make clothes for people 
to wear. 

1211
00:58:59,870 --> 00:59:02,990
I wanna make a movie. 
I wanna keep painting. 

1212
00:59:04,430 --> 00:59:09,190
I don't know, just explore. 
So fun, cool thing about like 

1213
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:11,350
PFPS or like these Nfts from 
artists. 

1214
00:59:11,830 --> 00:59:14,310
I think that's something that's 
cool about OV though. 

1215
00:59:14,310 --> 00:59:17,230
It's more of the CCO 0 narrative
and there's no like road map or 

1216
00:59:17,230 --> 00:59:19,590
like there's no fashion in the 
mind or whatever. 

1217
00:59:19,590 --> 00:59:22,670
It's like it's art from artists.
So artists are going to keep 

1218
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:26,030
arting, you know? 
It's just like, you know what I 

1219
00:59:26,110 --> 00:59:27,150
mean? 
It's like, I know there's not a 

1220
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:30,110
word, by the way, not a real, 
real, real, real term. 

1221
00:59:30,110 --> 00:59:32,270
But like, it's like you guys 
just like always going to cook, 

1222
00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:34,510
right? 
It's like Ovie's not stopping 

1223
00:59:34,510 --> 00:59:36,750
creating his art. 
You're not stopping making cool 

1224
00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:38,190
stuff and it's always going to 
happen. 

1225
00:59:38,190 --> 00:59:40,870
The fuel fashion is fired. 
Look, I don't know if you want 

1226
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:42,030
to talk too much about what's 
happening. 

1227
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:44,630
On the field, Yeah, I mean. 
That's why I'm the most excited 

1228
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:47,750
about Selfish Thing. 
You know I'll be rocking it. 

1229
00:59:48,310 --> 00:59:51,260
Yeah. 
I mean, so a big part of why 

1230
00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:54,900
making Fewos took us a year and 
a half is making this dressing 

1231
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:58,300
room. 
Because if you have 20,000 up to

1232
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:02,660
20,000 characters, things that 
you made that are all 3D all 

1233
01:00:02,660 --> 01:00:05,580
have super complex traits that 
stick out a lot. 

1234
01:00:05,740 --> 01:00:08,220
Like an eyeball that's sticking 
out like 3 feet. 

1235
01:00:08,740 --> 01:00:11,380
If you're wearing a shirt, we 
got to make sure that your shirt

1236
01:00:11,380 --> 01:00:13,020
doesn't collide with that 
eyeball. 

1237
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:16,030
And especially because we're 
going to be dropping new 

1238
01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:18,670
clothes. 
It's not the peoples come naked,

1239
01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:22,150
it's afterwards that you get the
clothes and if you want to wear 

1240
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:24,070
one shirt, but then the next day
you want to wear a different 

1241
01:00:24,070 --> 01:00:27,030
jacket, we need to make sure 
that all of that fits correctly.

1242
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:34,190
And that took us a very long 
time to to figure out. 

1243
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,620
I mean, there was some glitches 
where you would your fuel would 

1244
01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:40,460
start holding a paint drop and 
then it would glitch out and for

1245
01:00:40,460 --> 01:00:44,060
some reason they would just turn
blue, like a weird ugly blue. 

1246
01:00:44,180 --> 01:00:47,140
And we don't know why. 
And that took us like a month 

1247
01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:51,060
and a half to fix, but I don't 
even remember the question. 

1248
01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:53,900
I'm just happy. 
That was mostly about fuel, 

1249
01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:55,540
fashion, what's coming next, how
excited you are. 

1250
01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:57,660
But also, look, it's it's 
happening this weekend, right? 

1251
01:00:57,700 --> 01:01:00,580
I'm I'm so lost with my days now
because of of all this. 

1252
01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:01,700
But it's happening really 
Saturday. 

1253
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:04,140
Like Saturday 1:00 PM is a 
holder's AirDrop. 

1254
01:01:04,570 --> 01:01:08,210
So if you're trying to get, if 
you're trying to get a paint 

1255
01:01:08,490 --> 01:01:11,370
paint drop, you can find them on
secondary or you can just wait 

1256
01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:13,250
for after and see what happens. 
With fuel worlds and the fuels. 

1257
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:15,530
There's going to be a lot, but 
it's happening. 

1258
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:17,530
It's here if you I hope you're 
ready. 

1259
01:01:17,570 --> 01:01:20,530
I hope you buckled up. 
I know you want to work out for 

1260
01:01:20,530 --> 01:01:22,690
a minute. 
It's, I don't know. 

1261
01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:24,490
I don't feel nervous. 
I feel like everyone's like, are

1262
01:01:24,530 --> 01:01:27,930
you so nervous? 
20,000 is so much, the main 

1263
01:01:28,130 --> 01:01:32,130
market is blah, blah, blah. 
It's like, yo, I spent a year 

1264
01:01:32,810 --> 01:01:34,770
making something that I think is
dope. 

1265
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:36,890
That's all I like. 
That's it. 

1266
01:01:37,570 --> 01:01:38,890
Whatever. 
I don't know. 

1267
01:01:39,370 --> 01:01:41,890
That's my flight. 
I think it should be the 

1268
01:01:41,890 --> 01:01:44,050
philosophy but anyways before we
sign off here I don't know if 

1269
01:01:44,050 --> 01:01:47,250
Mandovi anything I had on fuels 
work and if you had any 

1270
01:01:47,250 --> 01:01:50,690
questions but if not I'm gonna 
sign off and then you know we're

1271
01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:52,770
gonna we're gonna wish you best 
of luck and I might be minting 

1272
01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,810
myself and that would be I'm 
gonna be posting my fuels as 

1273
01:01:55,810 --> 01:01:58,490
soon as they reveal but when's 
that reveal is that on the is 

1274
01:01:58,490 --> 01:02:03,090
that on the also on the it's 
like October 2nd or something 

1275
01:02:03,170 --> 01:02:04,690
like a couple days after 
everything. 

1276
01:02:04,890 --> 01:02:05,930
Of course. 
No, that's normal. 

1277
01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:07,170
That's normal. 
All right. 

1278
01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:08,850
Well, that that's fun. 
I'm hyped for it. 

1279
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:11,450
I think it's good. 
We need a refreshing new PFP. 

1280
01:02:11,810 --> 01:02:13,850
It's been a while. 
Since we had a while, yeah. 

1281
01:02:14,170 --> 01:02:16,130
When's the last like PFP that 
came in made noise? 

1282
01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:19,250
It was like Nakamigos made noise
during the summer, but it's been

1283
01:02:19,250 --> 01:02:20,290
a it's. 
Been a long time to be honest 

1284
01:02:20,290 --> 01:02:21,650
with you. 
I can't remember the last time 

1285
01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:24,490
you had a PFP where people got 
kind of got excited about it, so

1286
01:02:25,890 --> 01:02:27,810
looking forward to it. 
It's true. 

1287
01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:30,170
Well, you haven't had one Plus, 
that's another free PFP, right? 

1288
01:02:30,290 --> 01:02:32,730
Because you've held your paint 
assuming like, for a while. 

1289
01:02:33,210 --> 01:02:37,210
So it's a Freeman. 
So that's that's actually going 

1290
01:02:37,210 --> 01:02:38,690
to be pretty cool. 
I'm excited for it. 

1291
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:41,770
I'm really, really hyped up. 
Any like Alpha, any secrets 

1292
01:02:41,770 --> 01:02:46,690
Trades things to look out for 
when they reveal there's nobody 

1293
01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:52,250
listening. 
I don't even know what a secret 

1294
01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:53,450
could be. 
They're just cool. 

1295
01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:57,590
You're so funny. 
No, I'm excited about it. 

1296
01:02:57,590 --> 01:02:59,310
This if you will. 
Congratulations on that. 

1297
01:02:59,350 --> 01:03:01,590
It's really, really exciting. 
Look, I'm sure we'll be talking 

1298
01:03:01,590 --> 01:03:03,350
a lot more about it. 
I'm sure we'll be mentioning it 

1299
01:03:03,830 --> 01:03:05,510
Monday on the show. 
It's happening this weekend. 

1300
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:08,670
So I'm sure it's going to come 
back up as part of as part of 

1301
01:03:08,670 --> 01:03:10,790
some of the topics and what not.
So super cool. 

1302
01:03:10,790 --> 01:03:14,070
Best of luck Theo and we we're 
here, we're supporting you. 

1303
01:03:14,070 --> 01:03:17,750
So very excited to to see what 
happens this weekend. 

1304
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:20,630
Thank you. 
I appreciate you. 

1305
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:23,750
Have a good one, Theo. 
Appreciate it too. 

1306
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:25,410
Bye, bye. 
Who's. 

1307
01:03:26,570 --> 01:03:28,330
Oh my. 
At least something's going on 

1308
01:03:28,330 --> 01:03:32,010
NFT's. 
Shit, I'm here. 

1309
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:34,890
Like, damn, like I was thinking 
like it's rough. 

1310
01:03:34,890 --> 01:03:36,850
Guys. 
Like we used to have a 90 minute

1311
01:03:36,850 --> 01:03:40,610
show where we didn't even have 
time to cover everything just on

1312
01:03:40,610 --> 01:03:43,690
NFT's. 
It was called GMNFT's. 

1313
01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:47,150
Crazy. 
That's absolutely what if you 

1314
01:03:47,150 --> 01:03:48,550
ask me. 
But anyways, you guys were 

1315
01:03:48,550 --> 01:03:52,510
asking about stubs in the chat. 
Well, there's no code for stubs.

1316
01:03:52,510 --> 01:03:54,070
You can just go on the website, 
right? 

1317
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:58,310
And you can and you can, and you
can claim the claim is live. 

1318
01:03:58,310 --> 01:04:00,630
You no longer need the code. 
There's a batter that's up right

1319
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:03,230
now and you can definitely go 
and mint your stubs. 

1320
01:04:03,230 --> 01:04:05,070
This week's artist of the 
Because Art Jedi. 

1321
01:04:05,070 --> 01:04:07,230
She was on the show yesterday. 
The piece of art is actually 

1322
01:04:07,230 --> 01:04:09,990
beautiful, so make sure check it
out if you want to listen to the

1323
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:12,320
interview with that. 
I think that's about it. 

1324
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,960
I think that's about it. 
Another great show powered by 

1325
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,920
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Make sure check out 

1326
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,400
cracking.com/rug radio. 
I love that that that they come 

1327
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,240
up now. 
It's impossible to forget it. 

1328
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,880
You could never tell that I was 
about to forget it because I saw

1329
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:30,920
it. 
Pop up with that. 

1330
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,360
With that, we'll see. 
Y'all tomorrow morning. 10:30 AM

1331
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Eastern Standard Time. 
Forget PST 4:30 PM. 

1332
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,320
Western European time. 
It's called Western. 

1333
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,000
Central European Time, right? 
It's. 

1334
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,640
Central. 
It's CST. 

1335
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,200
It's CST in Paris. 
It's CETCEST. 

1336
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,880
WESTI believe you are. 
West is not a time zone. 

1337
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,000
It's GMT +2. 
I am, yeah. 

1338
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,520
So that's the time. 
I am West. 

1339
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,080
Yeah, we're not a time here. 
So you're on GMT, Michael's on 

1340
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,400
GMT, plus one for Oaks GST. +2 
European summertime is the same 

1341
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,640
as what you were. 
On Central European fraction of 

1342
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,120
Central European. 
Yeah, we are. 

1343
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:22,320
We're on West, I'm on Western 
Europe, European summertime and 

1344
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,760
you are on. 
I think they would just call it 

1345
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,520
GMT plus one or British 
Summertime BST when or GST. 

1346
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,120
Yeah, so. 
GST is WST. 

1347
01:05:32,540 --> 01:05:35,420
It is, but where I am, it's 
called Western European. 

1348
01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:38,220
You know what? 
Fuck these time zones. 

1349
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:43,900
We'll see you tomorrow morning, 
4:30 PM Central European Summer 

1350
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:48,100
Time, for another episode of Gem
Web 3 on Rock Radio. 

1351
01:05:48,460 --> 01:05:50,140
Let's go.