1 00:00:36,750 --> 00:00:41,600 We sails on the port with Justin until we're wrapped up in 2 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Burland and off we could go. We thought we'd give Canada a 3 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,840 well deserved peace by sending Trudeau to a faraway place. 4 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:59,320 They host, ship them away, Then of course, no time to stay. 5 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Just as taking your holy Canada can wrestle found him in his 6 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:17,120 office grand Oh no no, no, no, no, no, no. 7 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:24,040 Gently placed in a burlap hand. Oh no no, no, no, no, no, no. 8 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,240 We've tried every island from here to the moon. 9 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,440 But Justin returns like a catchy tune. 10 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:39,240 They home, kept them away there of course, no time to stay. 11 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:46,480 Just taking your heart late and then I can't rest today. 12 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,880 Because I've had this happen faster my shit and I sound 13 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,240 arrogant. Well. 14 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,800 You can't be arrogant if you're Canadian, you can just be 15 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 passive aggressively shitty. That's that's, that's the, 16 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,600 that's the extent of it. Yeah, well everyone would say 17 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,600 the Canadians are polite, but it's more of just an Anglo 18 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,560 tradition of being reserved. Like it's just not being 19 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,480 audacious, but it's never been politeness. 20 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Like British people are about as polite as Canadians are, but you 21 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,440 would never call a British person polite. 22 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,680 I think with in Canada you have two things going on 23 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,760 simultaneously. Once you're Canadian, you 24 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,280 understand like inter Canadian sort of knife fights. 25 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:01,880 Everything's passive aggressive, So the idea is to kind of set 26 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,840 you up to for a fall, you know, and, and be able to be the 27 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,480 person go, Oh, I don't know why he's reacting that way. 28 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,000 I I have no idea why he got so upset. 29 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,560 That seems so strange. And after, you know, the entire 30 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,240 time you've been like knifing this person in the stomach the 31 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,800 entire time and finally you're getting a twisted. 32 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,480 View of Canadians like these just treacherous Talmudic 33 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,040 beings. That's not us. 34 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,880 We're we're a good people. Canadians are becoming real. 35 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Yeah, well, the Canadian, an actual Canadian right wing will 36 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,720 be very interesting and I think we're you're about to see it. 37 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,240 I think you might get like make Canada a great again movement, 38 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,400 which would be interesting. I mean that that's actually a 39 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,760 very big idea and a very big topic because when people hear 40 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Canadian right wing, especially if they're in Canada, they will 41 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,240 intuitively compare themselves to America. 42 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,600 So we're going to have our Canadian version of the right in 43 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,480 America, and to a certain extent that's inevitable. 44 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,040 But that's completely the wrong way of looking at it. 45 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,320 And that's, you know, that's a discussion that's happening now 46 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,680 on X and elsewhere saying you'll notice a lot of Canadians saying 47 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,920 we need a Canada first, a Canadian MAGA movement. 48 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,080 I'm a Canadian Republican. I seen the young woman who calls 49 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,360 herself a Canadian Republican. So they're latching on to the 50 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,120 Trump energy, but I know there's that book I've referenced a 51 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,680 couple times called The Network State. 52 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:27,880 And they have, or he rather has the view of the left and the 53 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,280 right as just a function of the state, Meaning it's an axis that 54 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:36,600 the left and the right doesn't necessarily need to take on the 55 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 character or essence of any other right wing. 56 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,600 It is completely within its own context. 57 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,840 So there is a right wing in Canada right now. 58 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,960 It's got many adherents. It just doesn't look like the 59 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,560 American 1. And it doesn't really have that 60 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,120 identity yet. But it is being worked on 61 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,320 presently. And that's been my experience. 62 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,240 And there's a lot of variations of what that looks like. 63 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,120 And I think the one thing that shouldn't be is trying to copy 64 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,400 America or really try to copy any other right wing movements 65 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,760 from across time. I think that's asking the 66 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,160 entirely wrong questions. And then that's more of a fandom 67 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,040 of anything, but it's not getting to the root of what 68 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,480 Canadian identity is, which is a very, very complex question. 69 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,200 But eventually, I think now maybe more than ever before, 70 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,440 there is a right wing forming within the Canadian context. 71 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:32,120 I think when you're growing up, you know, I'm, what, 47 now? 72 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,800 But I'm also from Quebec, so that's a little bit different. 73 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,720 But the standard Canadian identity, I guess was sort of 74 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,680 red green was in some ways Bob and Doug. 75 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,000 I mean, they're obviously like they're abstractions and they're 76 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,400 made to be a bit silly. But it was sort of that OK. 77 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,920 Like, oh, we just, you know, take care of each other, having 78 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 some smokes, have some beers to watch, watch the hockey and 79 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,400 don't, don't sweat it. Eh? 80 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:59,120 Like that's kind of what was presented. 81 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,200 And we almost all kind of agreed on that to a, to a greater, 82 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,480 lesser degree, you know, Toronto people got the their stick up 83 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,000 their ass and all that stuff. There's variations across across 84 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,560 cities and provinces, but like there was a standardized idea of 85 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,600 a like baseline Canadian. And I remember what really shook 86 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,760 me, and I point to it as a massive radicalization point in 87 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,600 my thinking was watching the George Floyd protests outside my 88 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,120 window in Montreal in the summer of 2020. 89 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:34,440 To me, that just was like, this isn't Canadian like this what is 90 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,360 going on? This is this is what what it 91 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,480 just broke me, you know, a lot of ways, COVID in general broke 92 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,720 me out of that mentality that I understood what Canadian was all 93 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,720 about because it, because it was like, this is not Canadian. 94 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Yeah, I think that broke a lot of people in the sense that a 95 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,920 lot of people would have found their themselves on our side 96 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,160 just through perhaps personal lived experience or research or 97 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,360 they got red pilled by something. 98 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,040 But I don't know how you come out the other side of the George 99 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,160 Floyd riots or COVID without, if you're being honest, at least a 100 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,800 bit more on our side, which I think is what actually in fact 101 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,520 did happen because it was unignorable. 102 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,400 But it's interesting with Red Green, the Red Green show and 103 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,200 also Bob McKenzie, there is a through line there of being an 104 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,680 outdoorsman or being a frontiersman. 105 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,080 And I think that there's something very true about that 106 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,440 because also, you know, there's a sort of like a a boomer sort 107 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,200 of humor in this, which is like, we're easygoing. 108 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,400 I hate my wife. You know, everyone that entire 109 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 generation just wants to drink beers and relax. 110 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Like so did like Wayne's World in a sense. 111 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,680 But you know, is Wayne's World indicative of the American 112 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,480 character? Arguably not. 113 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 When we respond to something like Red Green, it's because 114 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,120 that specific type of outdoorsy guy, we see that all over the 115 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,800 place. That's a very rural guy. 116 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,360 It's not a construct. So the fact that he's kind of 117 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,960 hokey and on a show or whatever, but there is an essence that you 118 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,240 can grab onto that's not just fake, that maybe draws from 119 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,640 something more substantive in the Canadian identity. 120 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Yeah, but I think that's where you can kind of see true 121 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,080 cultural touchstones is when someone's not putting it on. 122 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,320 You know, there's no, it's, it's authentic because the person 123 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,840 doing it isn't thinking in 3rd or 4th degrees kind of 124 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,840 consequences. It's not a marketing ploy. 125 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,040 It's not like they're trying to win anyone over. 126 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,040 That's just who they are. When you're looking for 127 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,200 authentic expressions of, let's say, a cultural identity through 128 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,480 groups of people, you kind of want to go to people who aren't 129 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,480 putting on a front. That Canadian bro thing was the 130 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,000 baseline. You have different versions of 131 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,560 it in Quebec, the you know, the Pepsi on the corner ASD, but 132 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,840 it's authentic. You, you can say you can, you 133 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,200 can thumb your nose at it. You can have your opinions about 134 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,320 it, but you know it's not fake. Yeah, and also a lot of this 135 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,720 Canadian identity they were talking about draws from, in my 136 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,440 opinion, very European character, the idea of like, you 137 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,320 know, smoking and drinking. And I detect a lot of Irish and 138 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Scottish influence in that, and also the strong French 139 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,880 influence, of course. So, you know, it's echoes of a 140 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,120 European way of living and thinking more so than American. 141 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:19,160 I think there's a there's, there's something to be said for 142 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,920 my American audience as well, because right now we're at this 143 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,960 interesting transition point where, OK, you have mega right 144 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,280 and the mega crowd is the memetic model going forward. 145 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,200 People can not like it or whatever. 146 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,920 But that's just it. You're seeing more and more 147 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,040 people switch over to at least being sympathetic to Trump, if 148 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,760 not full on endorsing, doing a little dance, right? 149 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,480 And that little dance, little little Trump dance thing he did. 150 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,480 And shout out to Matt Erickson for pointing out how brilliant 151 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,040 it is. That's caught on everywhere. 152 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,240 Everyone's doing a little dance. So. 153 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,960 It's not like it was the first time. 154 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,680 Right. Not at all. 155 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 It's going to culturally shift people. 156 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,920 The question is, what is that culture shift going to be when 157 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:04,280 we start saying things like Make America Great Again or Canada or 158 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,440 Australia or whoever? It's still harkening back to 159 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,520 something. And it's I think it's very 160 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,200 important to understand what you're harkening back to. 161 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,200 What is, what is, what are the characteristics, what are the 162 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:18,960 core principles that you're interested in promoting? 163 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Because I think a lot of times when people and especially in 164 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,000 the distant right sphere and not calling anyone out, I think it's 165 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,280 just this is just how humans do is that when you're on the 166 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,600 losing foot for long enough, you get comfortable being a loser 167 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,480 and you kind of project your idea of what winning is. 168 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,440 So you'll say things like this culture is too degenerate. 169 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,840 We need to get rid of degeneracy. 170 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,200 And everyone goes, yeah, agreed. And then you're like, OK, how do 171 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,880 you accomplish that? Do you just like arrest 172 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,680 degeneracy? Do you, you know, like you can 173 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:48,920 pass laws, you can do prohibitions and some of that, 174 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,720 but that entails a whole bunch of other levels of effect. 175 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 I think what's more effective is you have to change the culture 176 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 from the inside. And that kind of brings us to 177 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,840 like wife Jack, which is the meme of the day and everyone's 178 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,080 having a freaking opinions about it. 179 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,520 But I'm looking at it. Well, first of all, I don't 180 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,160 care. It's a meme. 181 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,840 It is what it is. But I'm also looking at it like 182 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,080 this is how it heals. This is how you go from 183 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,920 degenerate culture, only fans, etcetera, to a moderate, 184 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,720 healthier, less, less degenerate society is wife Jack like that's 185 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,680 becomes the memetic model. That's normal. 186 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,360 And you kind of want people to be normal, right? 187 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:29,600 Yeah, I do think a lot of people have to die though, Like I I 188 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,480 deep down I am sort of the the Jonathan Bowden adhere like 189 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,640 there's a lot of people you got to fucking clear out before the 190 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,040 healing can begin proper. However, having said that I do, 191 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 there is something to be said for your point, which is that 192 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,320 there is a mimetic organic way to go about this. 193 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,040 Now, wife Jack is an interesting example because I almost look at 194 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 that more as people overthinking. 195 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,160 I know you had said you were somewhat ambivalent on the meme. 196 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,920 I am too, but except my community for Blood satellite. 197 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,320 Great show. They've been embroiled in a 198 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,120 debate for like 3 fucking days over wife Jack and wife guys as 199 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,520 a result. Because you can. 200 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,680 The real problem is wife guys. Now it's in cells versus wife 201 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,560 guys. I've not been paying attention 202 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:16,440 and I just peek my head over the fence of my own fucking space 203 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 and I'm like, I just thought it was a funny meme like it to. 204 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,680 However, the the wife Jack meme is very funny because if you 205 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:28,160 look at the roots of it, the the very first wife Jack image on 206 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,360 record was just a wife making a whoa Jack of herself. 207 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,680 And she said, oh, I thought this would be like a fun cute thing 208 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:35,240 to do. Huh. 209 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:40,000 So the first wife Jack was a woman doing a wife Jack type 210 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,600 thing, which is everyone's like, oh, she's just like a dumb 211 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,240 bitch, but not like you don't get it. 212 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,440 It's just kind of clueless but well meaning, maybe a bit naive. 213 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,440 You know, to me, there was a peak of the wife Jack meme 214 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,480 because every meme has it's, it's like fruit and ripens and 215 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,440 then immediately starts rotting. And some people just like the 216 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,000 rotted memes. Like me. 217 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,080 I love a rotted Peach. I love a deep fried hunk of shit 218 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,240 that doesn't make any sense and it's just schizophrenic. 219 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,040 The best wife Jack meme was just the image and the quote was 220 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,640 something like, is that supposed to be me? 221 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,040 They're done. That's the best it. 222 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,640 It became meta and then that you did it. 223 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:24,480 It's like the end of South Park was that episode. 224 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,160 You're getting old because it was a commentary on South Park 225 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,920 itself. That's like the unofficial end. 226 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,200 Hard stop. Anything after that is just rot. 227 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,400 I do like the spin off because there's you also know what when 228 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,240 things are getting a little bit stale because they always have 229 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,400 the spin off and the spin off you always usually involves a 230 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,960 kid. And so the the ones with the 231 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,760 daughter, daughter Jack or whatever, I don't know what the 232 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,400 term is for her are delightful because I have a daughter. 233 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,000 I'm like, Yep, that's exactly how that is. 234 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,720 Oh yeah, that was funny because it was like, here's the wife 235 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 being confronted with herself and how she responds to it, you 236 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,640 know, at the end, then it's not a meme and then it's just we're 237 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,400 doing comics now, you know what I mean? 238 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,040 But I like it. I don't. 239 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,200 To me, I don't think we need 50 sub stacks on it. 240 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,080 I don't think we need a discourse on it to be this is 241 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,080 like our entire generation is just working our way back to 242 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,840 making farside comics. You know, this is just my wife. 243 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Here's my wife doing something. Here's a cat that's saying an an 244 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,520 irreverent thing. Like, it's just the same shit, 245 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,760 which is fine. I like it. 246 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,440 It's it's kind of wholesome. But I don't think everything 247 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,040 needs to be a barometer of cultural decay or resurgence. 248 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,080 And maybe maybe I'm being cynical here. 249 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,440 I just, I just think it's a cool thing. 250 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 And I didn't expect that it would end with saying that, 251 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,200 yeah, if you, if you have a wife that's actually gay. 252 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,320 OK, We're just we're we're doing a thing. 253 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,600 This is the big thing now. No one's having fun. 254 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,360 Everyone's pissed off. Hooray. 255 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,840 I thought we could have like AI thought we could have fun for 5 256 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,560 minutes turns. Why would I think that? 257 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,360 It's why I've left a lot of spaces recently. 258 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 The stupid loser and smell was going to seeping into my clothes 259 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,600 and it was just like, wait a minute, you're telling me in a 260 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,520 world where Vladimir Putin just unveiled his supersonic missile 261 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,080 device that can launch up to 8 warheads independently, that 262 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,240 could actually obliterate cities without even a payload attached 263 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,720 because they're going to hit them that hard? 264 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,720 And he's just basically slug his Dick on the table and said hey 265 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,160 UK, hey France, dare me right? That just happened this week. 266 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 And then I turn on Twitter and find out people bitching about 267 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Wife Jack. I'm like. 268 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Why is everyone upset we're getting World War Three? 269 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,360 I thought that's what we wanted. This is so much more exciting. 270 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Yeah, I thought we're we're we're doing the bit. 271 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 If you're an accelerationist, this is great. 272 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Like all, all of our most wicked technologies coming to bear. 273 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Great. We're something's going to 274 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,600 happen. If do you like Fallout? 275 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 What if Fallout was gayer? That's what you're going to be 276 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,000 living in. You thought the show was gay? 277 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Well guess what? This is one where you don't get 278 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 cool robots. Oh, hey, there's there's an 279 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,240 extension of the wife Jack do the fallout mutant wife Jack. 280 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Yeah, again. See, we're just contributing to 281 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,320 the pain, Jason. You know what? 282 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 I've done a whole bunch of stuff taking shots at the merchants of 283 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,680 Despair. But sometimes I see their point. 284 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,560 I'm like, you know, a little bit of despair is good for people to 285 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,360 think it's it's good to overcome. 286 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,160 It's like a little bit of suffering just got. 287 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,000 To what's your take on the meme? You, you, you said it's sort of 288 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,640 we're healing now. And I, I just thought as a 289 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,040 positive thing too, like, hey, guys are young guys are kind of 290 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,760 making I, I don't want to call it wholesome. 291 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,040 I don't like that word really. But I'm like, yeah, it's just 292 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,200 guys saying like, hey, my wife does a goofy thing. 293 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Then you say, ha, yeah, I, I know that. 294 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,440 And you kind of go about your day, but what? 295 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,320 What does this signify to you? That's kind of what I felt about 296 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,320 it is like when I was first started seeing it prop up a few 297 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,760 weeks or whatever ago, I was like, oh ha, oh, that's funny, 298 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,160 right? Like it was one of those like 299 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,440 chuckle bunnies. It's not like I'm not going to 300 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,040 lose my shit over it. It's just it's like, Oh yeah, 301 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,400 mildly amusing. And I get, I get what you're 302 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,760 doing. And that's yeah, that's good. 303 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,800 We need more of this. And not necessarily we need more 304 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,839 wife Jack memes, but we need just more things like everyone 305 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:12,079 just like calm down. Everything's been ratcheted up 306 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:17,599 to 12 for a while now and things are getting spergy in a weird 307 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:19,160 way. Wife Jack is becoming a litmus 308 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 test, but it's becoming a litmus test of the world you want to 309 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,240 live in. I would much rather live in a 310 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,280 world of wife Jack then a world of anti wife Jack, whatever the 311 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,320 hell that is, right? All this fervor over Trump's 312 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,560 picks and stuff, nothing's actually happened yet. 313 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,600 And people are talking about it as if, Oh my God, it's all 314 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,800 doomed or oh, it's a great and the 5th dimensional chess and 315 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,160 all this other stuff like guys, just it's going to happen very 316 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,160 soon, right? In a few weeks it's it's things 317 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,680 will actually start happening. And then you can go, wow, OK, 318 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,160 let's judge the happenings. Let's look at what they're 319 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,240 actually doing. Spoiler alert, Trump's probably 320 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,840 going to let you down in ways that are going to surprise you. 321 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,800 And that's OK because you had mentioned at the top something 322 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,520 very interesting happened, which is that, you know, Trump has 323 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,720 wider acceptance than he ever has, which is actually bad news 324 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,760 for us radical schizos out there because a lot of his policies 325 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,600 that made an exciting the first time, he doesn't really have 326 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,480 those anymore. You know, he's still hard on 327 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,800 migration, but he does not have the energy or vigor as the first 328 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,720 time around. And he's less interesting to 329 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,200 people like myself, that's why he's so popular. 330 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,120 So a lot of his opponents and enemies and liberals have in 331 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:39,800 fact gravitated a bit more towards our side out of 332 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,800 necessity, right? So that's a win. 333 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,560 However, he is also gravitated towards them. 334 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,440 So everything's gotten a bit better. 335 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Also gotten a bit worse for us, but that's where it is, so I'm 336 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,120 pragmatic. You'll notice something about 337 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:54,240 Trump. It's that everyone's kind of 338 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,480 less excited. The only people who are equally 339 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,720 as excited are kind of like the Twitter guys. 340 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,280 But I don't know if you've checked in on Q Anon. 341 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,320 There's not the shellacking of Trump that there once was. 342 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Because if you remember Q Anon and his most fervent supporters, 343 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,920 they were talking about 5D chess. 344 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Everything was part of the plan. To me. 345 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,000 I don't even see any of the lore or mythology that Trump is 346 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760 playing extra dimensional chess this time around. 347 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,280 They are a bit more realistic because nothing they predicted 348 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,200 ever happened. So, so that's gone. 349 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Like the true worship of the God Emperor is absence. 350 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,480 There's just this sort of like fake excitement that well, the 351 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,960 fake excitement is about something a lot darker, which I 352 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 appreciate, which is we're just going to kill him. 353 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,920 We're just going to kill liberals. 354 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Like that's what's going on in X right now. 355 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,360 All the people saying aren't you a hypocrite, crit for Trump did 356 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:47,680 this and you did this, like that's cool. 357 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,480 I'm going to shoot you in the head. 358 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Like that's what people are saying to each other now. 359 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,600 It's like, yeah, I don't care. I'm a hypocrite. 360 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,240 I'm going to liquidate you. You're going to be biofuel. 361 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,520 That's what people, that's what normal Republicans are fucking 362 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,200 saying some of the time. And I'm like, I like that. 363 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,280 I like that. Some people just had their minds 364 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320 broke. However, I think we do need to 365 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,560 be realistic about Trump while recognizing that. 366 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,760 There's a flood of interest coming into our space and we 367 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,080 need to reckon with that because this is we've won a lot of the 368 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,480 discursive skirmishes that we were involved in, but a lot of 369 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,120 us didn't plan for that victory. So now we are getting an influx 370 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:30,320 of the smart libs and the smart leftists who are trying to 371 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,440 figure out like, why is it that we lost? 372 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,880 Well, then they're trying to dissect the things that worked 373 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,440 for us and we need to be very careful about that, especially 374 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,160 post left types who are coming into this space and bringing a 375 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,000 lot of weird ideological baggage. 376 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,480 I mean, I wouldn't say I was on the left by 2020. 377 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,600 I had kind of divulged, diversified my thinking away 378 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,120 from that before that. And not that I was ever really 379 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,200 on the left anyways. It was just more about Canadian 380 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,640 standard, Canadian Liberal, you know, which is just like 381 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,960 healthcare, good. It's a Charter of rights and 382 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,760 freedom. Good. 383 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 You know, basic sludgies. I, I guess I, I've, I've, I've 384 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 been at this. I, I stayed inside of a 90s 385 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:12,000 mindset for a very embarrassingly long time because 386 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,280 my life didn't challenge me to think anything otherwise. 387 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Canadian politics was just kind of drab and you know, it worked. 388 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,120 There was no reason to get it really. 389 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:24,720 All that it worked up about it. You know, by the end of Harper's 390 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,360 term, I guess I got a bit more like fuck Harper, but it was 391 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,480 more like that guy creeps me out. 392 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,360 I don't know if something about him is unnerving. 393 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:35,280 Like he, he, he doesn't blink. That's, that's that, that should 394 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,520 be, that should be a red flag. And I proposed Trudeau because I 395 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,120 was like, well, I, I like the charter. 396 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,360 The charter is good, right? That's, that's a good thing. 397 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,760 And his dad helped write it. So he's going to defend it and 398 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,920 that's good. And then, you know, six months 399 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,800 or whatever and he does Bill C60 and I'm like, shit, OK, who's 400 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,160 this Jordan Peterson guy that was really like and kind of my 401 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,240 my entire political off ramping and on ramping at the same time, 402 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,760 you know? I'd, I'd already been in the 403 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,840 weeds for a long time by that point. 404 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,360 But yeah. And once I noticed that a lot of 405 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:11,240 people were, they're very excited about Justin Trudeau and 406 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 none of them had any reason to. They're just like, he's just, he 407 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520 had name recognition. They liked his hair. 408 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,880 He got a lot of votes for people who just wanted to legalize 409 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,680 weed, like a lot like most of the people in my life, like, 410 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,400 yeah, we can finally legalize it and nothing fucking changes 411 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,320 because it was already pretty much legal anyway. 412 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,200 But like, he got a lot of idiotic votes and then nothing's 413 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,960 really changed. And I was like, we got him this 414 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320 time. His his popularity is an all 415 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,880 time low. I'm like, yeah, well, I guess 416 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,520 we'll see. He really, he really hung on 417 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,120 there. He should have been gone by now 418 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,780 but he hung on. That's why like once he got re 419 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:51,320 elected, I think the second time or something, I'm like, I, I am 420 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,800 not represented anywhere. I guess I'm in the minority. 421 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,360 Like what do you do with that information? 422 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,120 It's very disheartening. Like Trudeau kept getting voted 423 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,720 back in with significant margins and the People's Party of 424 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Canada, for example, did it. I'm like OK. 425 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,720 To be fair, the the PPM is. I mean I don't even know where 426 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,480 to start with that. To me, they're just like a 427 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,400 slightly right wing version of the NDP. 428 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,520 Like they're going to serve the same purpose. 429 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,520 You know, basically audience capture a bunch of people who 430 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,720 just, you know, are slightly to the right of the of the 431 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,960 Conservatives or don't like Pierre Plovev or whoever the 432 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,040 hell they're putting up there now. 433 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,440 Like none of these people, for example, are ever going to go 434 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,120 after healthcare, right? Not a single person on that. 435 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:42,480 If you put all the major leaders of every single major Canadian 436 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,800 political party up on stage and ask them what they thought about 437 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,080 Canadian healthcare, they would defend it to the dying breath. 438 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,520 And I'm not saying that that is necessary, a good or bad thing 439 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,000 or whatever. We can get into that. 440 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,760 But that's a spur conversation anyways. 441 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,840 You could get to that if once the boomers are gone, you could 442 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,720 actually mount an attack on universal healthcare, but it's 443 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,240 only after that generation is gone. 444 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,600 It should be relatively soon. I don't know about that. 445 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,160 I think it's so ingrained. It's it's the one thing 446 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,640 Canadians can say that they have and America doesn't, and it's. 447 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800 But at a certain point they have to admit that it sucks. 448 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,400 Like it is bad, it is bad quality. 449 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,160 Like I've watched people with like cancer suffer 450 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520 unnecessarily. Like every stereotype every 451 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,600 American has about Canadian healthcare. 452 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,440 It is fucking true and most people don't. 453 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,040 Most young people don't have to deal with it because you don't 454 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,320 really enter into the hospital ecosystem until you're in your 455 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,680 40s in any real way. You're invincible up until the 456 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,080 age of like 35, basically. So this is just an abstract 457 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,360 proposition, but like, once you're in it, you realize that. 458 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,360 Oh, most of what I need actually isn't covered and this entire 459 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:53,520 system is fucking broken and it's like the Americans were 460 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,720 fucking right and I actually can't do anything about it 461 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,880 anymore. So I think especially like what 462 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,160 the boomers are, cling to this because they need it. 463 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,480 But I think younger generations will be sufficiently radicalized 464 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800 where I'm not even saying that they will, but I think it'll be 465 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,040 on the table in a way that couldn't have been previously 466 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,040 because I don't think most young people believe that there is 467 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,920 going to be a glide path in the retirement period. 468 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 I think if you ask them right now, they're not going to enjoy 469 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,880 the experience of the boomers because the universal healthcare 470 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,440 system, just like the Social Security system. 471 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840 I really think most people at the very, even if it's right or 472 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,720 wrong, they do believe that they will not be afforded that sort 473 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,560 of economic certainty because they've never had economic 474 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 certainty in their entire life. They'll be like, well, why do I 475 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,960 even want universal healthcare? Because it's going to be bad. 476 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040 It's not going to, I'm not going to get anything out of it. 477 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,920 So I'm just going to try and get mine. 478 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,480 I'm going to try and extract as much money back from the system. 479 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,880 And I, I the very least think that there's millennials and 480 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,480 Gen. Z who would be willing to vote 481 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240 on these propositions. But I mean, we'll see, 482 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,600 obviously. Yeah. 483 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,040 I mean, if, if, if what's Stormy, myself and Tom Luongo 484 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,160 are all talking about amongst a growing number of others, it may 485 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,320 not be even an election issue. It might just have to go away or 486 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 be massively restructured anyways because if what we're 487 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,080 looking at with the sovereign debt collapse and that's going 488 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,640 to massively affect Canada when those markets fall, unless they 489 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,440 there's a Hail Mary literal economic miracle that's now 490 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,560 that's becoming a certainty or has been a certainty for a 491 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,080 while. When that happens, a lot of the 492 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,520 things that these socialized systems depend on are going to 493 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,040 go poof. And once all that settles down 494 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,560 and who knows what happens and how it plays out and over the 495 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,520 next few years. But once things have settled 496 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,960 down, I don't think people are like, well let's just rebuild 497 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600 that thing that was broken and shitty anyways. 498 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,400 Precisely and and we have an article up on my site, the 499 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Vanguardist Journal. That's Vanguardist journal.com. 500 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,880 It's also on sub stack. I wrote it with a friend of mine 501 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,120 named Sean Weiland called the Cross Generational Power 502 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,480 Transfer Engine. And it's, in short, how to 503 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,320 transfer all that captured wealth from boomers into younger 504 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,720 generations while it's being hoarded. 505 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,120 And one thing we get to in that article, and Sean Weiland and 506 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,240 many others talk about this as well, but how much the current 507 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,560 Social Security system is being kept artificially afloat by, you 508 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,600 know, financial manipulation. And I don't need to get into the 509 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,960 whole thing right now. I bet Stormy talks about this in 510 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,640 some sense. But like, the phenomena that 511 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,640 boomers are experiencing almost can't be replicated. 512 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,920 I believe Sean Weiland makes the point where it's like Social 513 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,600 Security in this whole system is designed to go bankrupt. 514 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,880 You're just hoping that you die before it does. 515 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,800 Like it is going to end at some point. 516 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,480 It's just how badly. And I think there's more people 517 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,160 who are just, this doesn't mean the entire economy is going to 518 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,280 collapse. I'm just talking about 519 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,640 healthcare and Social Security and like the welfare state as we 520 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,520 know it. Because in Canada especially, as 521 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,640 you've just indicated, there's no reason to believe this 522 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,600 survives another 50 years, like within our lifetimes. 523 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,960 I just don't see that the the numbers don't compute anymore. 524 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,440 And people are kind of ringing the alarms and they're trying to 525 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,280 acclimate young people to like, yeah, maybe you'll work till 526 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,000 your 90. Maybe you'll work till your 90 527 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,520 in a tiny home. You know, we're building favelas 528 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,520 and they're trying to sell you like, well, that's home 529 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,120 ownership. Isn't that exciting? 530 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:27,000 Like they've already baked this into the cake of your future. 531 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,880 And I think people are noticing that. 532 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Oh, you're not even like the, the, the, the lifestyle, the 533 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Canadian dream, the lifestyle that we were promised. 534 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Like you're admitting to me that that's not even on the table 535 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000 anymore. I think people don't understand 536 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,240 how powerful these things are. And maybe because I'm a bit 537 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,920 older, I'm not connected to the zoomers unless it's online. 538 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,920 I can only kind of guesswork at the mentality or the vibe or the 539 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,840 whatever is going on there, but increasingly people are going to 540 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480 have to wake up to the fact that that promissory note is 541 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,280 bankrupt. I'll give you an example. 542 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,200 I believe it was either in 2019 or 2020, somewhere around there, 543 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600 the Quebec retirement fund, the provincial retirement fund 544 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,440 almost went bankrupt, like literally had to be bailed out, 545 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,720 emergency bailout. And the reason why is because 546 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Cirque du Soleil went bankrupt and an embarrassingly large 547 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,400 amount of the Quebec retirement fund was basically invested the. 548 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240 Entire province of Quebec is basically a company town for 549 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,520 Cirque du Soleil at this point. Well, no, no, no, no more, 550 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,920 because Cirque du Soleil is insolvent. 551 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,120 But it was it was Cirque du Soleil and Bombardier and both 552 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,600 those companies are now like completely BTF toad. 553 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360 So they had to get like incredible amounts of bailouts. 554 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240 And that was a huge marker for me even before I knew all the 555 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,480 other stuff that I know now. That was always like a hmm, data 556 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,920 point. Like how did that happen? 557 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880 That sounds crazy. Do you mean you had everyone's a 558 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,760 retirement fund based on a circus? 559 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000 There's no way to explain that where it doesn't sound 560 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,120 hilarious. You bet the farm on the gayest 561 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,320 French circus imaginable. It's like super gay bottom and 562 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,000 barely like can you? What? 563 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,600 What if it's a circus, but it's also horny and gay and French? 564 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,040 That'd be like telling your wife that I bet the mortgage on a 565 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,520 zoo. Like, what? 566 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,280 What did you do? What did you do? 567 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Well, it's also like, you know, it's like, it's a big company. 568 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,520 But even during his heyday, I'm thinking like, this isn't going 569 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,760 to last forever. There's only so many trapeze 570 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,400 stunts you can do before people stop showing up. 571 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,600 Well, yeah, or like, you know, imagine financing your entire 572 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:43,200 30-40 fifty year plan on like Zenfir or like he's a quality 573 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,760 musician. He'll be around for forever. 574 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Come on, prove a track record. Look at these gold albums. 575 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,120 Number one of the pan flooped consecutively every year. 576 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960 He's just kills the whole thing. How would you That's smart 577 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,520 money. I just, I don't know how you how 578 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,640 what you think about it. Where are we going with this? 579 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,240 We we had a point to this where we got. 580 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,040 Lost, Oh, Montreal's on fire. That's where we're going. 581 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,520 Montreal's on fire this past week and I'm recording this on 582 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,280 I'll use the Australian Day, November 27th of 2024. 583 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,680 And just recently I'll pull up The Gazette article and just 584 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,640 read from it for your kind of folks. 585 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,640 Cars burned, windows smashed at pro Palestinian, anti NATO 586 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880 demonstration in Montreal. Montreal police said three 587 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,320 protesters were arrested for allegedly assaulting a police 588 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840 officer and interfering with police work. 589 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,160 I won't read the whole thing, but you got to get the idea. 590 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720 I'll just read the first just below the fold here. 591 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,680 Three people were arrested after pro Palestinian, anti NATO 592 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,280 protesters smashed windows, clash of police officers and set 593 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320 vehicles ablaze on Friday evening. 594 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,640 The protests coincided with the arrival of approximately 300 595 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,680 delegates from the NATO member States and partner countries 596 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,680 attending a high level summit running from November 22nd, 22nd 597 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,000 to 25th in Montreal focused on Ukraine, climate change and the 598 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800 alliance's future. The protests also came as a 599 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800 second day of a wave of student wide pro Palestinian protests 600 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,920 across Montreal. What was notable, and this is 601 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,400 what kind of has been attached to this story, is at the same 602 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,520 time this was happening, Justin Trudeau, I'm not sure why he 603 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,680 wasn't at the NATO summit, but he was at some concert. 604 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880 I don't know, it was a Taylor Swift or something. 605 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Is that Taylor Swift concert? Dancing with dancing with minors 606 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,200 while part of the downtown core in Montreal was in flames. 607 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,720 You know, The funny thing is, like in the past, I would have 608 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200 said, oh, he's only going there for a photo op. 609 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200 But I think he is just a gay loser deep down. 610 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600 And I was excited when he got divorced for like a few minutes 611 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,480 because I'm like, this guy's going to bring like a cool 612 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,760 divorced energy. Like a just divorced guy is a 613 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,200 wild card. And maybe he turns it around. 614 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Maybe he starts like making women pissing illegal. 615 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,360 You don't know what's going to happen. 616 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,800 It's like Trump getting shot in the head. 617 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,160 What's he going to do next? You don't know what that does to 618 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,760 a man. And apparently nothing happened. 619 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,880 He just, he's the same fucking guy that that blew my mind. 620 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040 I'm like, OK then you're inhuman at that point. 621 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160 You can't divorce a woman and not become cooler. 622 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,360 Get a sports car at least. Like just a few. 623 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400 He's got money. He's just a weird guy. 624 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,760 And then yeah, so, so to me, it's just his popularity is so 625 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,560 low. I just don't think he gives a 626 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,440 shit anymore. And you'd made a point that he's 627 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,880 even becoming harder on immigration. 628 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,280 Maybe you're going to cover that next. 629 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,240 But I think there's a lead into that, yeah. 630 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,680 Yeah, but basically it's like, oh, you look at him, he's got 631 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,080 something. Yeah. 632 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,880 I mean, this is it's just more to the pile. 633 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Like it's, it's been the same outrage for so many years. 634 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880 I'm like, Yep, he's dumb. He did a dumb thing. 635 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,600 He's embarrassing. He's dancing like a fucking 636 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,760 queer. I get it that that's him. 637 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,640 And he's still here. He's been here the whole fucking 638 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,080 time. He hasn't changed one iota. 639 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,760 I just hate this motherfucker and I hate everyone in that 640 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,520 system. I hate everyone in the Liberal 641 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,360 Party. I want them all constructed into 642 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,600 a nice house for the homeless. How about that? 643 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880 I wanted them 3D printed. I wanted to be put into 644 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680 crystals. I want the Canadian crystals 645 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,239 it'll be made out of out of Maple syrup. 646 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,159 They'll be fully biodegradable. It's it's fun, it's good, it's 647 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,080 good for the environment. We can turn them into energy 648 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,639 sources. I think it's a win win across 649 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,520 the board. Yeah, but even like Polyev, that 650 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,679 fruitcake, you know, we need to, you know, axe the tax still. 651 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,560 Like, if you want my vote, you should be saying we should draw 652 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920 and quarter him, right. Like you should like it's it's a 653 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,600 it's a global embarrassment. And So what are you going to do 654 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,760 about it? Like what? 655 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,440 What does he get to retire some someone needs to be punished for 656 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120 this shit. And now he's he's trying to do 657 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,280 an about face. He's trying to like try and get 658 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,080 us on on his side, but Nope, not. 659 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560 Well, I think recently, so recently he's in a he did this 660 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,560 whole big sit down, which was patron patronizing and like, it 661 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,080 was just I, I, I get when he watched about 35 seconds of it 662 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,880 and I had to had to read it because I was like, I can't, I 663 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,040 can't with this guy. I might have to fly out to, to, 664 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,760 to Canada to deal with this. And it's a 30 hour flight and I 665 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,080 got a bad back. So I'm not doing that. 666 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,280 But he recently announced that Canada's going to put a pause on 667 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,720 the mass immigration they've been doing in the country and 668 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520 reassess and give everyone a time to, you know, to readjust 669 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,400 and get get used to the new normal. 670 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,840 Of course, this announcement happened pretty much on the 671 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,760 foothills of Donald Trump's election. 672 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Matthew Erickson over King pill speculated this morning. 673 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400 And I, I tend to agree with him. I think it's just getting ahead 674 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,400 of the curve of knowing that there's a whole bunch of 675 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,360 immigrants who are going to be flowing N you know, he doesn't 676 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,280 need to have immigration abroad. Just open up the freaking 677 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,160 border, or not close the border and suddenly you have a 678 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,520 truckload of very fine, cultured people swarming into southern 679 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,720 parts of Canada. If the Canadian welfare state 680 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,760 collapses and those people self deport anyway. 681 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,360 See, one of the greatest things I witnessed was, I don't know if 682 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,840 you watch this stuff, but there's, you know, dozens of 683 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,600 videos on YouTube made by Indians listening to all the 684 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,000 reasons they're going back home because, yeah, sucks, 685 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,720 apparently. And I'm saying, yeah, get out of 686 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,120 here. But they are, right. 687 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,160 Third Worlders are coming to Canada and saying I can't 688 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,120 tolerate this. That's not good. 689 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,720 You know, it is. It is a harsh, punishing place 690 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,200 where it's difficult to survive financially. 691 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,440 And you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's not attractive 692 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,920 to live here, so haha. And then it's going to get 693 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,640 worse, and then they're going to leave. 694 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,480 And then we're going to be stuck in the mess that the welfare 695 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,840 states still collapse because of them and because of the 696 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640 political elites causing it. And the only ones who are going 697 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,320 to be stuck with it are US. It's like you have to generate a 698 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,720 cultural identity that insulates you from the reality of living 699 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,400 in Kamloops or Sudbury in order to live in Kamloops and Sudbury. 700 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,440 Like it becomes a point of freaking pride. 701 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,640 Like, no one really actually wants to live in New Brunswick. 702 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,680 It's like you're born in New Brunswick and you live there and 703 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,920 then you make it a big, you make it a prideful thing. 704 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,160 I mean, and there's like the Cabot Trails, nice. 705 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560 And that, yeah, sure, right. But like, there's lots of woods 706 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960 everywhere. Yeah, I find that there's more 707 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,600 love towards small towns in Canada than the US, and that 708 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,280 sounds like a pretty extreme statement. 709 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,360 But I think that in America they will glorify almost the 710 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,320 simulacra of a small town, like a Bruce Springsteen version of a 711 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,120 small town, maybe one that no one ever lived in. 712 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,480 But there is a deep connection with the Cam loses with or or 713 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,680 not may not that exact. And the camels is a city. 714 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,040 But like these smaller towns and villages where people, real 715 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,640 people are from them and you do remember them. 716 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,880 It's not a movie version of it because there's more of those 717 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,520 types of places than there are large urban centers. 718 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,880 There's really only a few in Canada. 719 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,680 The rest of the country is relatively small towns and 720 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,800 villages. Yeah, and full of meth. 721 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,960 And I mean, how can you? How, how can you say no to that? 722 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,600 I think it's charming, really, especially bad in Quebec. 723 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,640 Like you go to a small town Quebec, you're like, wow, I, you 724 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,360 can count the number of teeth in this town. 725 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,200 That's amazing like this. It's like per capita, there's 726 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,720 twelve of them teeth. Yeah, and you need to hate that. 727 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,440 You need to hate that that's happened. 728 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,040 And there's a lot of people on the right, especially in the 729 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:25,560 identitarian sectors, who have a disgust towards ruralites and 730 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,080 disgust to what they see as sort of low status rural types or, 731 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,840 you know, their countrymen. And I don't, I think you need to 732 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,040 have an affection for them and a real 1, not say, you know what 733 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,040 the opioid crisis is. It's a shame. 734 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,320 It's a real shame. No, you need to have a visceral 735 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,080 hatred for whoever did this to these people, whoever's 736 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,520 facilitating this, this cancer that is relatively new to the 737 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,880 region. And it can't just be a 738 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,720 statistic. You need to feel that. 739 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,160 You need to care about people. If you don't care about people, 740 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,120 we don't need you. We don't need people who just 741 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,920 want to be celebrities. You only people who just want to 742 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,320 talk and have a sub stack. You need to give a shit about 743 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,680 people and your people even when they're at their worst. 744 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,720 And there's not a lot of people who do that. 745 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,800 And that fills me with disgust. Yeah, no, I I totally agree with 746 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,840 you. I mean, I put something out 747 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,520 recently, I don't know if you've heard it, but I, I took it down 748 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,280 because it was, it was almost verging on too vulgar even for 749 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,880 me. But it was a direct shot across 750 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,120 the bow for some people and essentially was that I was like, 751 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,600 I'm getting really disgusted, like viscerally disgusted with 752 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,280 the fact that Elon Musk says that we, you, us, whatever are 753 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,960 the media now. And you have people in our 754 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,240 sphere and justice in general sphere who have these big giant 755 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,560 platforms and big giant audiences who have spent the 756 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,040 last 10 small years or five years or whatever it is building 757 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,480 up all these connections and resources and perfecting and 758 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,800 honing a craft. And then they do nothing with 759 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,040 it. They talk about the wife Jack 760 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,600 meme. You can talk about the wife Jack 761 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,240 meme and be doing stuff. It's not an exclusionary. 762 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,080 But if you have this big giant platform and you're spending 763 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,320 time on the wife Jack meme, I don't know why you. 764 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,280 And it's just like, oh, you want to be the next Young Turks. 765 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,320 You know you're going to slag. You know Pacman or some of that, 766 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,120 but that's what you want to be. You just want him gone so you 767 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,240 can take that spot and you let me. 768 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,600 Say with The Young Turks, I do. I've got a strange fixation on 769 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,640 Chen Weaver, just because I think if we spend a long weekend 770 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,200 with him, I think he comes out the other side of that as a 771 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,400 different type of Alex Jones. I think he's got enough psycho 772 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,280 in him where I'm like I I could kind of, we can tweak him a 773 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,280 little bit. He comes out as just that same 774 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,920 type of gorilla. And we could use two of them. 775 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,120 But the rest of those people, I don't like they they form what 776 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,360 we might call content plantations. 777 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,360 And this is endemic on both the right and the left. 778 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,200 And this is something for our money that we try and avoid 779 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,480 doing. Like we don't make our primary 780 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,520 revenue off of our show. So we're not really beholden to 781 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,360 the audience and we don't beg and try and ring money out of 782 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,600 them. But another thing it's that we 783 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040 try and keep people on a content plantation. 784 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,760 Some people might call it monetizing outrage. 785 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,920 That's one way to describe it. But you realize that all my 786 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,720 income from these people, I need to keep them here. 787 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,080 I need to keep them paying me. So I need to just keep this 788 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,400 cycle going. At a certain point, you stop 789 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,000 acting in their best interests and you start just kind of 790 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,440 ginning up outrage or like the whole wife Jack thing. 791 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,360 Is this really an issue or is this a monetizable discourse? 792 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,120 Is this just something because people make money off of their 793 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,320 tweets? So it's just, I mean, if your 794 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,680 entire existence is just engagement farming and there's 795 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,680 people who do that, you're scum to me because that's no life to 796 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,640 live. You might as well be a 797 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,240 bureaucrat. It would be more honorable to be 798 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,200 a state bureaucrat than to be an engagement farmer on even if 799 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,400 you're saying my side, if you're saying the things that I like, 800 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,080 you're still just, I would say exploiting, but manipulating 801 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,640 people, actually driving them a bit more insane. 802 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,920 You know, you're actually working against people's 803 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,880 interests. So it was a funny example of 804 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,000 that. And this is an ongoing 805 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,640 discussion, this ongoing investigation. 806 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,960 Rather, it's that Tenant Media, remember Lauren Chen's. 807 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,480 So here's a great example of what you're talking about, which 808 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,200 is we've got Tenant Media who hosted our favorite bitch, 809 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,280 Lauren Southern. But then you got your Tim Pools, 810 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,280 they get you Lauren Chens, and then there's a few other people 811 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,240 in there. Dave Rubin. 812 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,720 Yeah, yeah, Dave Rubin, the who's who of, you know, fucking. 813 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,640 Sensible gaze. All just a bunch of sensible 814 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960 gaze. It's will and grace. 815 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,720 OK, It's the and thing. And and so look at Tim Pool. 816 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,840 Look at him. So Tenant Media, it got in 817 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,280 trouble because it was seemingly accepting a lot of money from 818 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,480 Russia. Which would make sense because 819 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,960 there's no reason why Tenant Media should have had so much 820 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,560 money because it was paying its influencers as broadcasters so 821 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,680 fucking much. And I believe the the number 822 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,480 given to Tim Pool, the Tim Pool show, nobody's favorite show was 823 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,160 like $100,000. I won't say per episode that 824 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,040 sounds crazy, but like per month would say. 825 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,800 Yeah, it was. No, I think it was either Tim, 826 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,320 maybe Tim Poole and Dave Rubin. I think it was Dave Rubin who 827 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,760 finally asked some questions and that kind of sparked a bunch of 828 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,520 stuff from my understanding of it. 829 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,720 But the the thing was to get to do produce 4 episodes of a 830 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,560 certain content and they were going to pay him four, sorry, 831 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,440 $100,000 per episode. So essentially $400,000 USD for 832 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,200 four shows in one month. That was an. 833 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,120 Insane amount of money and you don't need to be a content spur 834 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,040 to know that those numbers don't add up. 835 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,160 But it makes sense when you look at Tim Pools compound. 836 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,600 So here's a guy who was given the golden ticket. 837 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,920 Every influencer, every take seller, everyone who makes some 838 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,240 type of bread with content. Imagine getting that money. 839 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,720 What would you do with it? What would you, Jason, do with 840 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,680 what, $400,000 in a month? Well, I'll tell you what Tim 841 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Poole did. He made a giant compound. 842 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,600 He bought a giant gumbo for him and like his team of 15 people 843 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,600 to produce his fucking podcast and built a skate park inside of 844 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,200 it that I assume just he uses. So he did the and then funded, 845 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,000 you know, a rock music video that he got to start. 846 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,800 Like it's just the the worst things is if you gave a child 847 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,560 that money, they would spend it less frivolously. 848 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600 But these are the types of people who are they're the ones 849 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,400 who made the plantations. Because this is a guy who's 850 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,880 bringing nothing to the table. He's got no plans. 851 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,600 He doesn't want anything from anyone except money to live out 852 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:41,640 his strange childish dreams. But if given the golden ticket, 853 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,760 it never even crossed his mind to do something good with it and 854 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,400 never get across went to build something like you're saying of 855 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,360 substance to if he is on the right wing. 856 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,760 I think one of the qualities you have to be in our space is you 857 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040 have to have a longer time horizon. 858 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,760 You need to have that lateral connectedness in some sense with 859 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,160 your people. Even if you are a leader, you 860 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,720 need to have that interconnectedness. 861 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,560 And then if you are that person, you will have ideas that emerge 862 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440 and things you could do with that capital out of the drop of 863 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,800 a hat. There's been leaders throughout 864 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,080 time. We did that, but no one on the 865 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,960 side can do anything except enrich themselves so no one is 866 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,280 equipped to have a windfall of cash. 867 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,360 None of these mother fuckers. And every time it's happened, 868 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,760 they've just either spend it on themselves or used it to just 869 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,200 facilitate the more extraction from money from these people who 870 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,720 already don't have or sometimes some of the most oppressed 871 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,000 people in society. So, well, I called this, I 872 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,280 called this out I guess maybe a month or so ago and I said that 873 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,200 in very short order, I would say over the course of the next even 874 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,600 six months to a year times, everything's speeding up 875 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,040 incredibly fast. Now, I think within the next 876 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,160 year or so, you're going to find a lot of people who you thought 877 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,160 were based are are not based When they're given the Gibbs, 878 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,560 all of a sudden they'll jump ship to wherever gets them 879 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,120 positioning because it's not even about the money. 880 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,360 People think it's about the money. 881 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,480 It's not really about the money. It's about the influence and 882 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,920 relevancy. I'll tell you one factor you can 883 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,160 look at and understand where my thinking goes from with this. 884 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,800 Barack Obama looked like crap when he was stumping for Kamala 885 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,760 Harris. There was a definite air of 886 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,720 panic in his face. Didn't look like he was eating 887 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,000 right or sleeping right or whatever, right? 888 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,600 He looked pretty rough. And what I read in his eyes was 889 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,240 that glimmer of like, oh, Oh, my relevancy is gone. 890 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,280 That's that was $100,000 state dinners where they just get paid 891 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,280 millions of dollars to show up and do a 15 minute speech and, 892 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,600 you know, put it in their foundation or some of that and 893 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,040 just pocket it and live like Riley in your weird perverted 894 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,240 Martha's Vineyard mansion. That's that relevancy going 895 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,760 away. So to tie this back to Trudeau 896 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,600 and all those fine chuckle fucks with the wind condition for me 897 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,680 isn't about me winning, isn't about this show becoming a major 898 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,320 thing. So I don't care about that. 899 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,320 I don't want your fame. I don't really want a lot of 900 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,200 money. I can operate on a very tight 901 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,120 budget. I have been for many years. 902 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,800 So what do I want? I want to see. 903 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,880 I don't even want to see Justin. I would love to see Justin 904 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,640 Trudeau and Shane's, but if that's not a possibility, I want 905 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,200 to see it so that Justin Trudeau can't even get a fucking invite 906 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,960 to a dinner party. I want it so that Justin 907 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,440 Trudeau's name, his entire legacy, everything about him is 908 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360 beyond cringe. Like nobody. 909 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,200 And I'm not talking just the average Canadian voter. 910 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,440 I'm talking about everybody from every part of the hierarchy 911 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,000 looks at him like a diseased rodent. 912 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,320 It's funny that is what's going to happen to Obama, that I 913 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,160 actually believe that my grandchildren, when Obama is 914 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,920 brought up, they're going to say, oh, that gay Kenyan, like 915 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,360 he's lost. He's lost control of the 916 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,440 narrative. They had to use so much media 917 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040 pressure to make Obama seem like he's cool. 918 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,760 That's gone. And I think just the memes about 919 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,800 Obama are going to overtake whatever public rehabilitation 920 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,720 he's going on with this fucking Netflix show. 921 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,920 He's just like a weird guy. No one, no one actually likes 922 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,440 Obama. It's going to be like, Oh yeah, 923 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,080 that gay Kenyan man who kind of talks like a stroke victims 924 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,480 trying to sound like ATV announcer. 925 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,320 I mean like it's you get to watch his legacy drain from his 926 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,000 face. And, well, that's why I'm 927 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,280 praying happens to Trudeau. That's such a degree that, yes, 928 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,240 like our grandkids and our great grandkids, you know, permanently 929 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,040 reduced to a Jimmy Carter status. 930 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,360 Even if you found out that Jimmy Carter secretly cured cancer and 931 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,400 they just kept the cure from everyone, everyone like, yeah, 932 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,360 But Jimmy Carter, though, like. Just to go back to your original 933 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,160 question about how this relates to Canada, what I like in 934 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,720 America, and I understand that these things I'm saying might 935 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,120 sound pretty out there. You know, I speak only for 936 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,000 myself. One thing I liked about the tone 937 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,200 and tenor of Project 2025 is that I think you would call it 938 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,120 the vengeful Sun. But it's, it's, it's that clear 939 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,240 them out energy. It's that, you know, you have 940 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,120 one year is that energy, You know, I started doing, I started 941 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400 reminding people of that Robert E Lee statue that was burning. 942 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,400 You remember that? Remember the images of the red 943 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,520 hot face and how mystical that seemed. 944 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,280 And everyone said never forget. Everyone forgot. 945 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,480 Everyone forgets everything from like six months ago. 946 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,920 But I'm like, no, remember how fucking mad you were? 947 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,800 And now he's back. I want that image to haunt them. 948 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,680 You need to remember how mad all this shit made you. 949 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,600 And I think that's lacking in Canada. 950 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,560 Like I said the things I'm saying about the political class 951 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,240 here, people aren't as mad as I think they should be. 952 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,000 I think they're pissed off and they've had enough. 953 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000 Like that's nowhere near what I think the average Republican 954 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,760 feels in America right now towards the establishment, 955 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,960 towards their opponents. And I think they, for the first 956 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,880 time, maybe the first time ever, the Republic is actually see the 957 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,120 Democrats as their existential enemies. 958 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,720 And they're acting accordingly. And I don't think the right in 959 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,200 Canada sees the left as his existential enemy. 960 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,400 I don't know, it's just a lot weaker. 961 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,880 But I just, and I know some people might balk at that and 962 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,680 say no, no, there's people, look, I get it. 963 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,920 But you everyone understands it's not like in America. 964 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,120 And I think if there's anything we could take from America 965 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120 inside, people up here need to be angrier. 966 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,240 Like, why aren't you actually angry at Trudeau? 967 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,560 Why aren't you angrier at what they did to the persecutions of 968 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,720 the trucker protesters? Like the Coats trial, weren't 969 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,440 you still furious about human rights tribunals? 970 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,640 That's everything's still fucking there. 971 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,720 We should be. We should be as livid as these 972 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:43,000 Palestinian protesters, you know, I mean, why is it just 973 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,400 them? Why do I have to wait for the 974 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,600 Palestinians and gay communists to show up before anyone gets 975 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,400 pissed off? I'm sick of relying on the 976 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,240 Palestinians to move the needle. Good question. 977 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,560 I see it happening in America. I see the rhetoric and that 978 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,000 place where it should be, and it's not here yet, at least not 979 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,960 on a scale that you would think it would occur. 980 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,000 In Canada, it's been incredibly hard to create a scapegoat 981 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,960 because they we've internalized it. 982 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,560 I bring up that socialized medicine thing and how there is 983 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520 no divide politically with any of the parties on it, at least 984 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,240 not officially. Who knows privately what they 985 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:17,920 think? When Harper even brought up the 986 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,480 idea of bringing in some privatized medicine into Canada, 987 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,200 he was trounced and he had to rescind everything. 988 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,400 That tells you something because it's in US. 989 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,480 One of the things I'd say about the Vengeful Sun, and This is 990 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480 why it's dangerous, is because it's going to feel good and it's 991 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,400 going to be in all of us. Because that desire to tear it 992 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:41,560 down, to do harm, to enact your vengeance on the world and feel 993 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,600 justified and righteous is inherently a good thing. 994 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:52,640 In some ways it's true, and in many ways it is 100% justified. 995 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,640 The problem is, is that the only way you can bring justice to the 996 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:04,440 world is by loving it. To call back to what you're 997 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,560 saying about to be really right wing, you got to love the 998 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,760 townies, you got to love them all right. 999 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,800 You got to love your countrymen. Chelsea doesn't mean you need to 1000 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,040 love like criminals or anything like that. 1001 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,280 You know what I mean? Like there are those who 1002 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,200 transgress who you know, so just I know what some people might be 1003 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,720 auto completing there there's. A difference between punishment 1004 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:26,440 and discipline. And this is something that I 1005 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,400 think people have lost the distinction on. 1006 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,200 We discipline people who we love and wish to bring back into the 1007 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,920 fold. So with your child, you love 1008 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,840 your child. You realize that sometimes your 1009 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,280 child gets disordered either because they don't understand or 1010 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,240 because they make mistakes or whatever have you. 1011 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,840 So you discipline your child to bring them back into order 1012 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,760 because you want your child to be one part of the family, 1013 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,840 obviously, but like you, you want them to grow and be better. 1014 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,000 You punish those you hate or you who you no longer care about 1015 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,840 bringing back into society. So the question really comes 1016 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,840 down to are we punishing or are we disciplining? 1017 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,000 Yeah, that's a good point and something I've discussed on our 1018 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,920 show before and also our community. 1019 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,920 And I think there's a percentage of our opponents that can't be 1020 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,000 redeemed. I don't know what to do with 1021 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,880 those people, but I honestly think for a not insignificant 1022 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,680 amount of people, they are enthusiastically choosing the 1023 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,080 dispossession and extinction of their group and it that extends 1024 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,200 even to their own children and they will chase that right to 1025 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,880 the bottom. I don't know what percentage of 1026 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,960 the larger group that is, but those people I don't think can 1027 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,560 be helped. I think they're just a cancer. 1028 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,640 How they got there. Well, you can say extreme 1029 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,360 ideological possession. You could say extreme ignorance. 1030 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,040 I treat extreme ignorance and malice as basically the same 1031 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,360 thing. They have the same effect. 1032 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,440 I don't care. 1 is not more innocent than the other in my 1033 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,000 view. There's a certain amount of 1034 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,960 people where I can't do anything with you, you're too far gone, 1035 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,760 and then exile them or something. 1036 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,480 But it's up for us to figure. Out. 1037 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,800 What can be done with them? If my understanding of the 1038 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,040 situation is even remotely correct, I think a lot of those 1039 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,040 people are going to come out of this like coming out of a spell 1040 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,240 because they they have been possessed and I'm calling it the 1041 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:19,400 spirit of the devouring mother or the smothering mother. 1042 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,280 You can call it whatever you want, but it it is a form of 1043 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,320 psychological, spiritual, egregoric possession that as the 1044 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,160 people come out of this period and and transition into a new 1045 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,800 spirit, the spirit of the vengeful sun, they will shake 1046 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,880 off one spiritual manifestation glom onto the other. 1047 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,880 Some will be stuck in it or permanently change, disabled by 1048 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,440 the old spirit. But you'll see a surprising 1049 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,080 number of people, just 180 and a Kasparian. 1050 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,440 We're talking. The Young Turks are there. 1051 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,160 And a conspirator is the most perfect example of this, right? 1052 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,640 Super Lib, super progressive. Yeah. 1053 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,680 If that makes me better than you, then I'm better than you. 1054 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,520 This this screaming harpy woman almost gets raped on the streets 1055 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,680 of San Fran of California, where the hell she is by some homeless 1056 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,680 person that starts to change in her, exerts a bit of a cascade 1057 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,560 failure. And now she's, I mean, a few 1058 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,880 shades away. She's she's like in the same 1059 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,880 conversation as Laura Loomer, essentially like. 1060 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,080 Yeah, absolutely. They're training different there 1061 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,760 being that she's a woman and women don't have have opinions 1062 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,160 like we do like they. No, they do have vibes, but they 1063 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,240 do have vibes. They won't be soldiers, their 1064 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,640 opinions. So like they will kind of go 1065 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,360 with the flow more often than men. 1066 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,000 But like there are men who will like fight and die for their 1067 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,680 opinion. So that maybe I should say it's 1068 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,120 tilted more towards that based on gender. 1069 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,960 Maybe it's more men. You know, in that great book by 1070 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,400 Ivan Elian on resistance to yield by force, who I'm sure 1071 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,680 you're familiar with because you're an an Orthodox Christian, 1072 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,560 he says that the only way he was trying to respond to Tolstoy's 1073 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,760 more pacifist view of Christianity, which is, you 1074 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,760 know, good always wins. To be on the side of good, to be 1075 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,880 on the side of Christ, you must not even engage in conflict with 1076 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,800 evil. If it tramples you then let it 1077 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,800 because God in Christ wins in the end. 1078 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,600 Whereas I have an alien was saying like no, it's your duty 1079 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,560 to interrogate evil because evil spreads like a cancer if left 1080 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,160 unchecked. And some people call this 1081 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,680 characteropathic behavior or mental illness, but in any 1082 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,000 event, it spreads like a virus through institutions and 1083 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,080 throughout society unless it is interrogated by force. 1084 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,280 And he goes into pretty exhaustive detail that, look, 1085 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,760 when you're interrogating evil by force, maybe that leads to 1086 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,600 death. So that is on the table if you 1087 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,120 have someone who is so ideologically possessed that 1088 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,800 they are willing to defend the dispossession and extinction of 1089 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,160 their group. Like you're dealing with people 1090 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,320 who are almost on the side of death and chaos. 1091 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:50,480 And how do you some people wake up from that? 1092 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,120 But at this, I don't really buy into mass awakenings that much 1093 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,200 anymore. There's people who are kind of 1094 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,640 on the fence, like women. But if people come around on 1095 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,880 Trump, that's one thing. But have they come around on 1096 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,800 white people? Have they come around on what 1097 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,320 America represents? Have they come around on it's 1098 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,800 still Trump's good, but it's still we, we shouldn't still 1099 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,440 deport people, you know, like on any of the baseline issues. 1100 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,040 Have they changed at all? In fact, Trump might have 1101 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,080 changed more, you know. I've, I've said this for a while 1102 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,360 now, that liberalism, the entirety of it, that's including 1103 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,800 communism, fascism, all the cults and all that stuff, is 1104 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,760 Luciferianism. It is Luciferian to its core. 1105 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,280 And what I mean by that is that it rests on producing and 1106 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,520 investing people's resentments and this desire to liberate 1107 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,360 yourself from all oppression. And with you don't have 1108 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,760 oppression, you find new ones. Part of what I think is 1109 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,200 happening too, with that pride and that Vainglory is that 1110 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,960 there's a large degree of people and, and this really effects a 1111 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,400 lot of religious people as well, who seem to want the end times 1112 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,240 to happen in their lifetime because they can't deal with 1113 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,200 this idea of dying and the world going on without them. 1114 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,840 So they want everything to end in their lifetime so that nobody 1115 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,360 gets to go on and pass them. Christopher Hitchens once said 1116 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,480 something really interesting when he was sick and near the 1117 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,680 end of his life. He said that the the thing to 1118 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600 contend about dying is is essentially that is that you're 1119 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,640 in this big giant party and then you've been asked to leave, but 1120 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,680 you know, the party will go on without you and you have to kind 1121 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,880 of grapple with that reality. And I feel that if we want them 1122 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,800 to still Nihilus A. Very, Hitchens quote. 1123 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,560 Like, everyone's drinking and sometimes you'll have to stop 1124 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,840 drinking and that's scary. Right. 1125 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,120 Just we should have just told, convinced him that there was a 1126 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,640 there was you could smoke in heaven and then maybe he would 1127 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,400 be, he'd be down with it. Where was I going with that? 1128 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,120 Yeah. So I think the Western nihilism 1129 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,560 can be distilled down to that. There's almost this desire for 1130 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,400 destruction. And I think that's just, it's 1131 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,160 part of us and maybe it's in all of us to a certain degree. 1132 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,440 But if you take that one sort of weird destruction kink and you 1133 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,600 magnify it within a group of people, and then those group of 1134 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,800 people end up having a disproportionate amount of 1135 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,440 influence in all of your inputs, like education and media and 1136 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,600 entertainment. And they've been doing that for 1137 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,120 a very long time. And these same psychopaths think 1138 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,040 that everyone's coming to kill them and that everything's going 1139 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,640 to end anytime soon. Well, maybe that's why you get 1140 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,520 this messaging. When you wake up to that 1141 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,800 position, then it's like you have to go through everything. 1142 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,160 Everything you thought was how how something worked isn't 1143 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,680 necessarily how it works, so you have to go through all of it and 1144 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,680 figure out what's going on. Maybe waking up is the 1145 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,120 realization that you deserve to die if you're a woman who's had 1146 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,280 12 abortions and she spent most of her life not only celebrating 1147 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,720 her abortions, but encouraging others around her to have 1148 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,760 abortions. And then she hasn't come to 1149 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,360 Jesus moment and realizes where she's wrong and says how can I, 1150 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,040 what can I do? I'd say I don't know. 1151 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,560 You've been a cancer and you stopped being against for five 1152 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,840 seconds and you're at coming to me for answers. 1153 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,360 You know, like, to me, and this might sound too harsh, but you 1154 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,080 know, there's a lot of individuals who have done some 1155 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,120 pretty insane things during COVID or, you know, turned on 1156 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,520 their families or betrayed their families. 1157 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,520 Like if we can liken this to a meth head too, Like a meth head 1158 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,080 or a crackhead who has betrayed everyone in their lives for 30 1159 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,160 years and then they get clean and they're like, well, I just 1160 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,720 want you to know I'm doing OK now. 1161 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,800 I don't fucking care. Tell me what you're going to do. 1162 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,480 Make up for it, or you might as well just disappear. 1163 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,880 We don't need you. We've been doing OK. 1164 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,680 We've been right about fucking everything. 1165 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,720 What are you people bringing to the table? 1166 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,520 Repentance, true repentance especially. 1167 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,760 Listen, I'll just speak from the Orthodox perspective on this. 1168 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,520 Repentance means to to turn around and so it literally means 1169 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,520 you return to the father is the prodigal son idea. 1170 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,040 Return to the Father to repent and be redeemed. 1171 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,240 Repentance here is an ongoing process. 1172 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,840 This is my I've always says the danger with the evangelicals or 1173 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,800 mush Christianity is thing that if you just get dunked in the 1174 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,080 water, you come up and you're good. 1175 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,960 No, no, no, it's consistent, right? 1176 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:20,400 It's got to be continual. So we repent by changing our 1177 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,960 behavior, right? We, we, we acknowledge behavior, 1178 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,680 we confess, we understand what we're doing wrong or we begin to 1179 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,560 understand what we're doing wrong and we start to change our 1180 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,960 behavior, our ways of being, so that we don't do those wrong 1181 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,680 things anymore. That's repentance. 1182 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:43,320 And that's how you are redeemed. That mechanism is a mechanism, 1183 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,320 is a true mechanism of Christianity. 1184 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,360 And I think it's the one that's going to get glossed over a lot 1185 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,920 because people are flocking to the church. 1186 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,000 Part of my neotrans prediction was that one day very soon, and 1187 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,440 I think extremely soon now, you're going to wake up and 1188 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,880 you're going to see all these, you know, blued haired, 1189 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:07,440 screaming, ultra feminist, trimmed up people wearing the 1190 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,720 sun dresses or frocks and making apple pies and talking about 1191 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,560 going to church. And this sort of mush Christian 1192 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,960 Church will emerge. And that's a dangerous thing. 1193 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,600 And that's why I really. Want is redemption, and what 1194 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,320 they're going to settle for is like some sort of forgiveness. 1195 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,680 Yeah, and, and that's a fantastic point. 1196 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,560 I like the way you phrase that like they should be seeking 1197 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,560 redemption, but it's just they want forgiveness and change 1198 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,640 nothing about their behavior and almost don't admit that they 1199 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,360 were ever wrong to begin with. They were just misguided. 1200 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,560 And that's why I just wanted to explain what you know, I said 1201 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,960 earlier that you need to have a true affection for these people, 1202 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,160 for the people that are are often dismissed by others. 1203 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,040 And that's why I grew the type of person I'm talking about. 1204 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,800 I would group in the in the bucket of criminals in the sense 1205 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,280 that they are purposely leading to the chaotic nature and 1206 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,760 destruction of the group. And they're doing so willingly. 1207 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,960 So that's why my, my, your emotions towards them aren't 1208 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,840 just because they were misguided. 1209 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,640 And I view them differently as someone who got hooked on pain 1210 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,000 pills in their small town or a woman who had too many kids, 1211 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,560 maybe because she was sexually abused. 1212 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,360 Like, I have the affection for those people, but I'm grouping 1213 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,840 this one group, which is that you are cancerous, you're toxic, 1214 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,560 and I don't buy that you've really changed. 1215 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,800 You've just admitted that the world you created is not 1216 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,040 comfortable for you anymore. It's like the people move from 1217 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,560 California to Texas because they ruined California and they're 1218 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,000 just going to ruin Texas now. So I'm viewing you as a foreign 1219 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,960 pathogen. So you need to convince me that 1220 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,760 you are. You're not infectious. 1221 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,840 You know what I mean? Otherwise you need to get away. 1222 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,080 Away from the things. That we've that we've created, 1223 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,160 that seems to be on the right side of things. 1224 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,680 To put it to put it in a bit of a spectrum, let's say the degree 1225 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,760 of repentance, right? If there is such a thing and a 1226 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,960 lot of this has to be happened between the person that that 1227 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,320 this person and God. It has nothing to do with me. 1228 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,360 Let's say for cultural or civic repentance. 1229 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,720 There is a range here between someone who was just, you know, 1230 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,400 vaguely supportive LGBT, blah, blah, blah, please, you know, 1231 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:27,000 tune people plus right and and there's so we'll put that on one 1232 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,080 side and the other side of someone who actively trim their 1233 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,040 kids. That's a that's a fantastic 1234 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,320 example. And we haven't even talked about 1235 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,040 the women, the, the women who abuse their children like that, 1236 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,320 you know, and, and they're, they're into the trans thing, 1237 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,120 not even because they believe in trans ideology. 1238 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,960 They have some kind of mutated form of Munchausen syndrome. 1239 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,040 They just want to make their kids twisted and disfigured, you 1240 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,800 know, I mean, like that type of person almost can never admit 1241 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,480 that they're wrong. And again, some people call this 1242 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,440 mental illness like a true sociopath. 1243 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,360 And again, this might be an anti Christian point of view, but 1244 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,640 like a true sociopath, like, can they ever be redeemed? 1245 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,280 Do they? Because they'll never admit to 1246 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,400 themselves that anything they've ever done is wrong. 1247 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,520 Like there's something in the their DNA, something in their 1248 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,880 code. And maybe you could say the, the 1249 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,960 light of Christ can illuminate that. 1250 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,360 But I'm like, good luck, man. But there's, there's just some, 1251 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:26,160 some true darkness in people. And I think as Ivy aliens said, 1252 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,640 if you were to interrogate that evil away, you might just 1253 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,600 interrogate the life force out of them. 1254 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,840 You know, which I'm not even saying that's a good thing. 1255 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,560 It's just there has to be a case where that is that's true. 1256 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,760 And and what percentage of them is that, I don't know. 1257 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,720 Maybe it's a minority, but it's there. 1258 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,880 The difficulty going forward, especially with now this new 1259 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,320 spear, this new energy and, and again, the justification for 1260 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,920 this desire for vengeance and justice. 1261 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,600 And what's the, the fine line between those two states? 1262 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,600 It's, it really comes down to discernment. 1263 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,360 And I think the majority of us lack that discernment. 1264 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,960 This is why I keep telling people that the danger of the 1265 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,520 vengeful sun is it's going to feel good. 1266 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,160 And I know no one wants to hear that. 1267 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,080 Everyone thinks, yes, it's going to feel good. 1268 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,840 And that's right. I'm like, no, it's going to feel 1269 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,640 good. And that's bad. 1270 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,080 Because once you throw the first stone, then all the other stones 1271 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,320 will be thrown afterwards. The first stone is the hardest 1272 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,040 because it has not been modeled yet. 1273 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,000 As soon as the first throne has been thrown, then it will be 1274 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,720 have a model and people will strict will continue to throw 1275 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,320 stones. And what I'm seeing is this 1276 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,000 leads to an age of total violence. 1277 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,680 And again, that might sound sexy and good and at first probably 1278 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,280 is right. Probably, just probably 1279 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,360 reasonable, probably, probably, probably the right thing to do. 1280 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,600 And everyone's convinced of that. 1281 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,640 But then you flash forward 4060 years and you don't want to live 1282 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,480 in that society because all of a sudden that's how you get 1283 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,600 Miramar. That's how you get police 1284 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,480 states. That's how you get a lot of 1285 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,480 these things that, you know, we would abstractly all agree we 1286 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,560 don't want, we don't want to live in that world. 1287 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,880 But that's how you get that world because the spirit that's 1288 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,360 being invoked is not on our side. 1289 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,000 It's just going to do what we ask it to do until it gets 1290 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,120 dominance and then it does the other thing it wants to do, 1291 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,600 which is destroy humanity. What if you get the French 1292 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,720 Revolution, but you're not blessed with a Napoleon, right? 1293 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,280 You know. You just get the Jacobins. 1294 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,280 Yeah, just Jacobins until they burn through everything, you 1295 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,800 know, And that's, that is the cancer that spreads. 1296 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,680 And I was referring to this great book called Political 1297 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,640 Ponderology, which casts exactly what I'm saying from a mental 1298 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,440 illness perspective, describing characteropaths. 1299 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,080 And saying that on a long enough timeline, it's inevitable for 1300 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,440 most social movements or even social institutions that they 1301 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:59,440 won't be hijacked by the most mentally ill member of that 1302 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,960 institution. That they tend to rise to the 1303 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,960 top by being in the thing that people find most attractive. 1304 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,320 And people is being the most extreme, being the most radical, 1305 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,040 being the most passionate. You know, sometimes these are 1306 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:15,480 markers of true psychopathy. And so I don't necessarily agree 1307 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,520 that it's inevitable, but they do tend to spread and corrupt 1308 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,200 those around them and turn the entire institution into an 1309 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,640 engine of human suffering. And he was citing primarily the 1310 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,920 Soviet Union, but he was also describing Nazi Germany. 1311 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,920 He's describing any complex state really in a long enough 1312 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,880 timeline. So I think there is, there is 1313 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,399 something to that, that these people are, they're a reality 1314 01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:44,279 and they will spread. And they they're not, you know, 1315 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,040 talking to themselves in the mirrors saying, yeah, you know, 1316 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,800 like they're not super villains like that, like they think 1317 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,359 they're normal. But that's that's the thing that 1318 01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:56,279 they'll never, if you've ever met a habitual liar, you'll know 1319 01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,800 what I'm talking about and you'll see these people in your 1320 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,200 lives. You'll never, even if you catch 1321 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,640 them in a lie, there's no acknowledgement in their eyes. 1322 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,000 And you can look as deeply as you want. 1323 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,479 There's no acknowledgement that they've been found out. 1324 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,160 They'll just lie and lie and lie and then you become an enemy. 1325 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,960 And then it's it's this construct they build and they'll 1326 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,359 go to their grave thinking they were persecuted by their 1327 01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:20,800 victims. You know, I mean, and so it's 1328 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,040 those people. I'm like, you know what? 1329 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,840 I'm not even taking pleasure in this. 1330 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,319 I'm saying they need to be put somewhere else because, you 1331 01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:31,359 know, they, they can't be around regular people. 1332 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,760 Yeah, no, I agree. Let's end it there, my friend. 1333 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,279 Let the people know. Let the people know Dimes where 1334 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:40,439 they can get your stuff, all your stuff first. 1335 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:41,720 Of all, thank you for having me on. 1336 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,520 This really turned into more of a rant episode of the 9:10 and 1337 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,520 we didn't really get to some of the news that we're going to 1338 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,399 talk about. So I hope whatever. 1339 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:50,920 How people? Found this. 1340 01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:53,640 This is a dialogue show. We dialogue man. 1341 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,280 We go where the conversation goes. 1342 01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:00,160 Like if people want some sort of stylized, formatted, you know, 1343 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,280 professional show, there's, there's options out there. 1344 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,360 For just a title, let me just say that what we're taking from 1345 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,440 this is that if we're discussing the relationship of Canada too 1346 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,000 in America, what we're doing in Canada right now is to 1347 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,120 appropriate an attitude. And it's coming across as just a 1348 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,080 fandom. It's coming across as, oh, we 1349 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,640 can have, you know, the MAGA movement too. 1350 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,960 We can have the you have one year project 2025 into Canada. 1351 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,960 It needs to be grown from within. 1352 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,120 And those are conversations that are occurring right now, but it 1353 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,600 needs to be within the Canadian context so you can enjoy seeing 1354 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,000 what's happening in America, but don't make the mistake that this 1355 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,440 is just a spirit you can appropriate. 1356 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,440 We have to start with us actually getting as mad at the 1357 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:45,920 system that the Americans are. And I don't think we're as mad 1358 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,640 at our system as we should be. I think it's localized too much 1359 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,720 to Trudeau. And you made a good point that 1360 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,680 it's not just Trudeau. It goes wider than him. 1361 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,520 I just particularly don't like him. 1362 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,280 He's just the example of people should be more mad at him than 1363 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,440 they are because if they can't muster up the anger towards him, 1364 01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:05,280 then they can't muster up that's from anger towards the system 1365 01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:08,160 that is necessary to engage in the project that we're talking 1366 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,320 about anyway. Blood satellite.ca is where you 1367 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,480 can find more from the show Blood Satellite. 1368 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,520 The Vanguardist Journal is our publishing website, 1369 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,920 vanguardistjournal.subsac.com and our merchandise store, Good 1370 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,840 suffer.com. There you can buy wide variety 1371 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,920 of shirts and merchandise from ourselves and also people that 1372 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,040 we partner with including J Burden, Sunflower Society, Z Man 1373 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,800 and many others. Check all that out. 1374 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,680 There's a special shirt that we have on there right now called 1375 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,400 the Felted Lindy Waffen LLC shirt, Totally Artisan, made by 1376 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,120 people in our space. Check it out, you'll like it. 1377 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,280 And that's all the plugs I've got. 1378 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,520 Thank you, Dimes. Thank you everybody for tuning 1379 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,400 in. Always appreciate each and every 1380 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,600 one of you. I am Jason Marenchuk and it is 1381 01:11:53,600 --> 01:12:16,280 later than you think. But he returned on Wellington 1382 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,520 St. Nobody could tell how he managed 1383 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,640 such feat. We've tried every island from 1384 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:27,600 here to the moon, but Justin returns like a catchy chew. 1385 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,760 Sail to the aisle where silence rose. 1386 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,880 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1387 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,040 Where coconut trees become his home. 1388 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:50,600 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Wi-Fi or throne in gold. 1389 01:12:51,280 --> 01:13:00,040 Just endless sunsets to behold. Kept them away there. 1390 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,960 Of course there's no time to stay. 1391 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:10,120 Just as taking your heart late. And then I can't rest today. 1392 01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:43,560 The.