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Hi Credentialist. Good morning, good afternoon,
good evening. Thanks for coming on this.
This is kind of a we, you know, we kind of touch based.
It feels like a year ago. Times are doing that weird
wibbly wobbly thing because we talked on Buck Johnson, a buck.
Sorry, we talked on a Buck Johnson stream not too long ago.
But although I don't know, the last month or so is very hazy.
And then graciously you come on to talk about the the wine mom
candidate of the year, Kamala Harris, which is very exciting.
You just told me some news just dropped, which we'll get to in
the second-half of the show. But before we do all of that,
maybe let the nice people, like there's a lot of people in the
chat who know who you are, obviously, but maybe let the
nice people know who you are and what radicalized you what what
made you come out as a frog. Well, I I guess to begin, yeah,
thanks for having me on. It's always fun to be the guest
and sometimes not the host. Been doing this now for almost,
I think it'll be four years come October, which is crazy to think
about. It's only one election cycle 1
presidential administration, so to speak.
In a lot of ways. I like to tell people that my
entire sort of like political understanding of the world has
been trying to make sense of growing up in the War on Terror
as an army brat. And it's, I think sort of an
early moment was realizing Barack Obama's not only
different than George W Bush when it comes to foreign policy
is worse. And growing up trying to get
that nostalgia for George W Bush out of my head, which I think
for a lot of young men led to a libertarian phase.
Met Ron Paul in like 2012 and I was in my latter years of high
school and getting excited about learning.
That's something different. Alongside that, I read a book
also in 2011 called The Next 100 Years by George Friedman, who
does Stratford and strategic forecasting, all that sort of
stuff. And it was the idea that you
could use geopolitics or this history, demographics, politics,
policy, economics and geography to make sense of the world and
fell in love with that for the longest time.
I still do. I don't talk about geopolitics
as much as I used to, but still. And so growing up in the midst
of, I guess what you would call the great awakening that was in
college, you know, in 2014, and to see everything that happened
10 years. Ago to today has.
Alongside social media, the Internet has just led to, I
think that that sort of meme where like, the young boy is
looking at, you know, the two paths you have the nice idyllic
castle and then that gothic kind of horror deal of which way you
want to go. I feel like that's sort of the
direction that, you know, most of your friends probably had to
take at some point in time because it's 2024 and I don't
think centrists exist anymore. And I think that that's both
terrifying, but also interesting and probably for the better.
So I, I guess for what made me who I am, I would just say, you
know, being a straight white guy in the United States of
American, the last, you know, 30 years at this point.
So I don't know what else to say about it.
It's an incredibly, like, I feel like everyone's story is kind of
on similar lines. I, I worked in, I worked in
Republican Party politics. I was an elections judge for a
while. I, I still work in government
today as a, as a bureaucrat of sorts with economic development,
but it's just like, OK, that's my job.
And turns out it has a lot of cross application to
understanding how this crazy clown world that we live in, in
the year of our Lord 2024. But I, I mean, that's who I am.
I I I do shows on international relations, cultural issues,
politics. I occasionally do videos and I'm
also the Co host of The Digital Archipelago with my Canadian
friend Gio Panacetti. Yeah, well, you know, we need
more Canadians in the scene. It's it's interesting how for a
while there there was an over representation of Canadians in
this space. Like at one point you had, you
know, Jordan Peterson, Gadsat Viva Frye post Millennial a Geo,
you know, the list goes on. But it's kind of an interesting
phenomena because, you know, Canadians are kind of and it's
across the spectrum, you know, in, in terms of political views,
what tended to united everyone was this, you know, fight
against the woke, which I kind of got into myself a little bit
until I realized that the the woke is just really a symptom of
a much larger phenomena. So, you know, even if you put
the woke away or defeat the woke or make everyone abandoned that
project, you're still left with all the other problems that are
kind of weaponizing morality and creating this sort of political
moral landscape, which is, you know, destructive to say the
least. You know, you're you're, you're,
you're did. Were you baptized Orthodox or
are you still observing or? No, I I converted to several
years ago at this point and. Kind of just.
Came out of the midst of my own health troubles.
So I mean, my audience doesn't, as most people in chat might
know as well. But I've, I've had kidney
failure due to a birth defect four years ago now.
And that was sort of what had triggered my desire to get right
with my creator. And that's what brought me to
church. And that'll that'll usually do
it. It certainly will I in in
retrospect, one of the things that certainly does irk me is is
that sitcom trope where the gang or a character will have this
near death experience where he gets hit by a bus or or almost
gets hit by a car or something like that.
And he spends the rest of the episode being hyperbolically.
Grateful for life to the comic, you know, pain in the rear to
the rest of the cast of characters, despite the fact
that it is how we should be feeling on a regular basis about
how good life is and a remembrance of death and a good
end 'cause I mean, there are, there are worse ways to go than
getting hit by a bus 'cause that's pretty quick and instant.
But still, it is something that I've always kept in reflection
since then. It's been three years since the
transplant as of last June. So I, I thank God every day for
my life, but I, I, I think it's an important thing to consider
with how, you know, people look at our, our crises of things.
And it's funny that you mention all these Canadians because oh,
how, how the mighty have fallen for so many of them, with the
maybe the exception of Gio and, and a few others.
I guess we can put Dave the distributist on that list,
although he's not Canadian, he married a Canadian.
So he's one of y'all's by some. Expense well, he's he's he's
living there now so I mean he's oh.
Well, there you go. He's definitely a Canadian.
We'll count him. We'll count him.
Yeah, he's yours now. You know you can have.
Him. It's not I'm an, I'm an and that
is true. We'll get to the we'll get to
the show later on in the show. We'll trade one for another.
But yeah, no, I think it's I, I just think just growing up in
these times is like a a young guy with your formative years.
Like I was in college when Trump got elected.
And I think for a lot of people that has been the political
black tar heroine for anyone who was online or politically.
Active at that time, I mean, I was at a conference I was in.
Philadelphia. I was watching the rioters with
a drink in my hand at this conference.
We all just like, followed the cop cars and followed the
helicopter lights to go watch these people get upset that
Donald Trump had won the presidency in 2016.
And then the absolute, you know, crapshoot nightmare that has
followed since. So I mean, I, I think now we're
all aware, like you had said, is that the, the quote UN quote,
the woke, this progressivism, this entropy or whatever people
want to describe it is a greater symptom.
And all that we're witnessing is I don't want to maybe late
stage. That's probably the right way to
frame it of certain kind of wasting diseases that we say in
here. I find it interesting that
everyone kind of finds Elon Musk's phrase woke mind virus
maybe cringe. But I think that, you know,
using pathological terms like this are very effective.
I mean, it's also, you know, courtesy Arvin talks about mind
viruses from, you know, how Dawkins got pwned.
I think that there's a lot of useful application to that
language and terminology. The question just becomes, you
know, is it a virus or is it more like a prion?
You know, is there a terrible misfold in the brain tissue
somewhere that is causing this? And are we all just trying to I,
I, I do think it's more of a virus than it is anything like
that just because when you look at the native populations in.
America or in Canada or really anywhere in sort of the Western
European countries. It's still the conservative
right wing archetypes in those countries who have the greatest
immunity to this nonsense. There was a Pew Research Center
poll on religion in 2017 that had said white evangelical
Christians. So basically the the main line,
30% of the bulk of the American electorate, especially who vote
Republican, had a higher disapproval for homosexuality
and homosexual marriage than American Muslims who are
immigrants, obviously who came into the country.
And I should tell you that how terrifying our our sort of
symptoms and our ideological problems that are spiritual
problems are in the West because if I can turn, you know, these
Mahabadans kids gay faster than you know, we can bomb them out
of existence in the Middle East, that really does tell you how
bad things are. And it also tells you where the
greatest resistance is going to be.
And that's why they're so adamant about liquidating these
populations with immunity. Yeah, it's, it's to get to a
little Girardian for a second. It's where it, where we've been
living through this period without any real models, social,
moral, whatever have you. There's no, there's no one
modeling what let's say for Americans what America is what,
what is an American? You know, who's who is the
prototypical American that everyone, everyone should be at
least either trying to be like or trying to not be like, you
know, distinct figure. And you kind of had that a
little bit with Obama, but that never really stuck.
You know, I think he had like a few months there where everyone
was very, you know, when he won the Nobel Peace Prize for
getting elected and, you know, silly things like that.
But they turned him to celebrity too quickly.
I mean, that was the whole point.
But it I don't think people could, could access Obama in
that way. And certainly now what you had
is people modeling instead of people or instead of a standard
standardized model of of America, you now have people
modeling political ideas. And this is kind of where we're
getting to where you see this sort of schizophrenic,
especially on the left, where they're becoming these political
jargons. You know, the, the feminists do
try to do feminist things and the, you know, everyone's trying
to be intersectional, which means it's, they're everything
and nothing at the same time. And oddly enough, the only model
that you've kind of produced in the last little while is Donald
Trump. There's a classic example of
when he would come to the RNC right after the, the, the
attempt on his life and he had the ear bandage on and everyone,
there was tons of people in the crowd who had had ear bandages
on, you know, wearing the red cap.
You know, it's, it's this, this, this form of identification.
Like I do what you do. I wear what you wear.
I, I connect with you. I'm trying to be like you.
That's modeling. And for better or for worse.
So what you're what we're experiencing and this is
happening all over the West is because there is a lack of
actual models of what it is to be X your left or let's say the
the only models you have are pretty poor.
Like, you know, Justin Trudeau in Canada, if he's the model, if
he's the model Canadian, we're all we're all in trouble here.
So, so the bitter white pill here is the way forward for,
let's say, the right or even for the left, for political figures
or for for the nation would be to create strong models that
that exemplify what we're trying to present as, you know, as
Western values or, you know, Western value man.
You know, love him or hate him, Reagan was a good model for
that. People aligned themselves.
People had to deal with Reagan on some level and and he was,
you know, been deified because of it on the right.
So I think if we start to see more and more models emerge, and
I think we will, especially because, you know, now we have
JD Vance, who is close friends with Peter Thiel, and Peter
Thiel was the was the top student of Rene Girard.
So he understands this stuff just as far, far better than I
do than I do. And I think you're going to
start seeing a lot more of that where you're, you know, Mark
Zuckerberg's latest transformation into, you know,
cool millennial American man. That's a model, you know, and
there was intercepts. There's I think Matt Erickson
over at King Pill did a show on this where there was a, you
know, e-mail exchange with Peter Thiel and a few others.
And he, Peter said, explicitly said that Mark has to become Mr.
Millennial. And then he can essentially
model and guide and moderate an entire swath of the population
towards whatever, wherever they want people to go to.
And that's just kind of how this thing works.
I, I think it's an interesting note that on the right, we've
noticed that there has been a desire, that natural desire for
a leader, a man to rise above the rest.
The right still has that belief in a great man of history,
whereas Obama really in, in retrospect, was just an
embodiment of an existing resentful, destructive ideology.
I mean, you know, he couldn't really speak off of a
teleprompter. I mean, neither can Kamala
Harris. So it's really funny that our
two quote UN quote black candidates for president are
terrible without a teleprompter. That's an interesting pattern
I'm noticing. But on top of that, I think that
you, we've witnessed that as much as it's sort of a 2014,
1516 era talking point. I think that the right has its
great man, but the left, and I mean, academics, the James
Lindsey's, the Jordan Peterson's of the world have tried to
tackle that issue, but intersectionality never really
went away. It is still this great
theological concept for the left that brings all things into this
sort of oneness and unity of singular operation.
Their, their godhead brings all these things together in order
to move the, the world of progress of this cheliastic idea
of this age to come. And, and I think that's sort of
an interesting concept. It's just that, you know, the
the right goes towards the man has a very kind of incarnational
aspect to its political figures. It's it's Trump, it's Nigel
Farage, it's, you know, Jonathan Bowden, it's it's Mosley or
whatever, you know, what past figure you want to go to.
Reagan's a really good example of that like you mentioned.
And whereas on the left it is more about you have these
heroes, you have these this litany of people that you can
name off. But I mean, it's not one person.
It's this great in a way, I think it's it's what Kierkegaard
would describe as the levelling. All of us are reduced down to no
personalities, no uniqueness, because we all have to be these
perfectly homogenized things. And if we're going to chill
anything, I'd have this article called, I think it's called
Kierkegaard and the gay paper clip, talking about like the
whole paper clip Grey Goose scenario and Kierkegaard.
It's the leveling with American progressivism because this
really is a big part of it is just that we've all been
levelled and flattened down in order for you to be perfect
about it. But it's not like everyone's
flattened or homogenized you. You lose all aspects of
cultural, ethnic identity. And obviously if you're part of
the majority, you know, European population of a respected
Western nation, you are obviously the thing that they
want to turn into paper clips. So you don't pay attention to
the things that happened like in Southport in England earlier
this week and that that's where we're at.
And we've been at that point at it for a considerable length of
time. Because it doesn't matter that
someone's no one, no one's excited to vote for Hillary
Clinton, No one's excited to vote for for Kamala Harris.
But you know that that doesn't matter in the wake of the
eternal return of this like great man figure that the right
loves. And because the existing
political theology of the West is anti fascism, it doesn't
matter that Donald Trump is essentially a 90s Democrat.
He's basically, you know, the chancellor of Germany circa
1934. That's where we're at.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's sort of the we're at war with mimesis.
CG Constantine asked. What are the chances of, of an
Alexander Great figure appearing in the West?
Weird question, I know, but the oddities are a thing.
I've speculated that what's going on let's with populist
leaders. That's the catch phrase right
now you're actually starting to see a bill to Caesar moment with
the Kelly Miley, possibly the the new Prime Minister over in
Holland, a few other places or band.
What they need to do is be successful in one area.
So let's say you take the Kelly's successful at getting
rid of the gangs and decreasing violence in in in his country
melee gets, you know, gets rid of a whole bunch of government
institutions under the threat that the economy is going to
collapse. And of course it doesn't.
So there's a success there. I'm when I say these things, I'm
not trying to say that Boo Kelly and all these other guys are are
guys or we should be championing them or yeah, you know, you
know, start to worship them. In some ways.
It's that every single success they've made, they make in
individual little areas can then be modeled by successive other
politicians who are paying attention.
So this kind of feeds into what Matt and I were talking about
last week with political kayfabe.
When Donald Trump's taking shots of the Kelly, I think that's
part of a plot in terms of he can now get get this distancing
thing to have his talking points with someone who's friendly with
him. So they're playing this little
cave for this little wrestling pro wrestling politics match.
At the same time, then he can start to on board some of his
ideas, but put Trump's name all over it.
And as you start to see the successive kind of, I use the
example of the the the story of the crow who can't drink the
water at the bottom of the glass.
So he puts pebbles in the glass to raise the water.
That's kind of what's happening. So the great man of of the West,
let's say. Will make might be the guy who
just puts all those success rates together, policies
together and then does something which we would consider almost
impossible. But he's taking all these little
tiny possibilities, combining them and making one big giant
event happening. Does does that make sense?
Or how do you, how do you feel about that group?
Well, with modern times, it's going to be a lot more I think
Orient that great man needs to have a great team behind him.
And so, you know, this is going to be a game about logistics,
logistics, logistics. But every discussion I ever hear
about regime change or great man of history, you noticed this a
lot with and I think it's in part because no one wants to get
a knock on the door from the FBI.
And I will try to word it very carefully, but, you know, you
watch Yarvin or you watch, I think it was Patrick Deneen who
wrote the the new one, the book on regime change is I think was
the actual title of the text. And you'll notice that in both
of those, you know, these, these corpus of work, that none of
them really talk about the military at all whatsoever,
because no one wants to talk about the fact that you need the
officer corps on board at a certain point that isn't
politicized in order to lead and do The Dirty work for whatever
doesn't want to comply. And that's always the
uncomfortable part. Whereas peaceful regime change,
for instance, the whole idea that Yarvin says like the final
election about trying to oust certain leaders and individuals.
And he references Egypt, of course, in the midst of the
quote UN quote, Arab Spring. And it's just like, well, no,
there was like legitimate threats of violence there and
there were significant detractors who were ready to do
unspeakable things in order to get this man out of office.
So I think it's important for you to consider that in any of
your political calculations for for leadership.
However, we do know that in this day and age that the military
can be as powerful as it wants, but it certainly doesn't let
anything happen when, say, very powerful corporations can use,
you know, immigration or leverage on other countries to
do what they want. And I mean, if the American
military was serious, it would have a much more stronger
posture about China getting really close with, you know,
Central and South America, especially with like the lithium
triangle. But hey, you know, things are
changing. So I mean, like traditional
models of political theory, I don't know are going to fit and
I don't know necessarily if the political theory for this day
and age has been written. And I don't think we'll we'll
live to see it be written. I think in some respects, and I
think some people are giving a crack at it, obviously because
we cite these recent thinkers. But I don't know if we have the
a good holistic model for politics in the 21st century.
Because even our conceptualizations of things
like the nation state or the market or the economy, you know,
are based in these industrial revolution terms that, you know,
we have to look at people that kind of fit outside of our
little O political orthodoxy in order to make sense of, of the
world. You know, like I, I've read the
network state and I find it clashing with everything I read
in college about international relations.
But then I'm like, there's probably something here,
otherwise people wouldn't be talking about it in the way that
they do. And the question becomes, well,
can you make that work? And I guess we're, we'll see in
the, in the, in the years and decades ahead, But I, I'm not so
sure with an Alexander the Great figure that would require a
great amount of conquest. And I don't know at this present
moment that we have anyone with the will to gather forces and to
gather loyalty to, to do. Yeah, I think it's it
unfortunately might, it might take us the rest of the 21st
century to stop living in the 20th, which is really almost
depressing thought. I've always said I'll know I've,
I've made it to the good place when I wake up and find out no
one's referencing World War Two ever, ever again.
That'll be just like heaven on earth or I will be in heaven.
Like, oh, no one, no one's referencing, not like, not even
Italy, like, OK, good, good, good.
I'm I'm on board with that because I'm sick and tired of
watching the same show play out over and over and over again.
Anyone who's terminally online like like ourselves, like at
some point, you know, I took a chunk of July off because of
because of ill health. And also, I think just to do a
bit of a media fast because I was just getting sick and tired
of hearing the same talking point over and over and over
again. It starts you start you start
losing the grip of reality. Like, am I is, am I crazy?
Like they're just saying the same shit and everyone's just
repeating it and seemingly fine with it.
OK, you know, before we get to Kamala Harris, I think that's a
good spin off point to get to the to get to a bit of a funny.
We'll do a bit of a bit of mid show grift.
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Thank you very much Sir, for the kangaroo defense.
Yes, we need it. Kangaroos are messed out dear,
and they are a nuisance. They are all over the freaking
place, including the park outside my I haven't seen any of
my lawns yet, thankfully. And good for them because we
might be having some kangaroo Stew, you know.
Otherwise, let's get to this. So the people were watching the
looking at my wonderfully well put together thumbnail.
Hang on a second here. Where is this?
There we go. Here she is in all our glory.
Ladies and gentlemen, the preemptive, preemptive presumed
presumed, presumed presumptive next President of the United
States, potentially Kamala Harris.
Venn diagrams, those three circles, right?
And then let's just see where they overlap.
You will not be surprised because I have constructed a
Venn diagram on this. Remember those three circles,
how they overlap. I love Venn diagrams so.
I just. Do whenever you're dealing with
comp. OK, this Venn diagram thing has
got to be discussed because like I said before we started showing
before we first play their credentials.
I take part in some very highly some some some rooms, some DMS
that are that are filled, I mean filled with autists and no one
brings up Venn diagrams as much as this bitch like I don't I
don't understand what the fascination is.
Is it the circles? Is it like what what does what
do you any thoughts on what she could be possibly finding in
Venn diagram? So so enchanting?
Is this like live Laugh loves comes comes some kind of shit
that I just I don't? I I couldn't tell you.
I like the live laugh love stuff live laugh Venn diagram it out,
you know, just I couldn't. Here, in the middle of the
living, laughing and loving like.
Here in the middle, right, absolutely there's an overlap.
And you know, it was funny. I, I never 'cause I don't listen
to her talk. I don't think I've listened to
really any of these like presidential or vice
presidential speeches or I just see what's on Twitter.
I've I've slowly catered my news feed to a calvicate of Internet
racists. So just tell me what's going on.
And turns out I've been pretty well informed, But so I don't
ever really listen to her speak. I just assume that she's a moron
and turns out that, you know, my good gut instinct was correct on
that instance. But so it's I, I guess like a
talking point, like a safe thing that you go to like when you
don't have anything else to really pull out of your rear
end. You're like, Oh, I know I can
talk about Venn diagrams in the same way that Yarvan likes to
talk about Hitler lives every time that he gets to mention a
documentary that he really loves.
And I, I think that you can do it with, with this here, it's
just like, oh, it's something safe for her to talk about.
She's like, oh, I just love the circles.
And it's 'cause I look at her and I just, I just think she's a
drunkard, you know, Like she's, she's got that wine mom energy.
She's like, oh, I love Venn diagrams.
And she's on like her third Pinot Grigio and everyone's a
little worried about how much she's had.
And she's like swinging the keys around like she's about to drive
home. 3rd bottle of Pinot Grigio.
Let's let's be honest here. Third box, third goon bag.
There's some Aussie references to you.
Do you think maybe that she actually thinks those Venn
diagrams are memes and she's like, I know memes, Venn
diagrams, they're like they're memes.
Like is there any thought process or is it just she just
honestly likes Venn diagrams? I don't.
You know, I'm going to go if she
honestly likes them. She, she's 60 years old.
She only got married 1010 years ago to Mr. Imhoff.
And you know, her, her tax bracket definitely improved
after she did that. So I mean, like, you know, for a
woman who's like, you know, gotten on her knees to get to
the top, she's done well for herself.
Let's not get ourselves. But we have to understand she's
also a very, you know, interesting political avatar.
I mean, she did grow up in Canada for quite a bit with an
Indian family, her mother's side.
And if you look at her sister looks totally Indian.
I guess we can talk about that in a little bit.
But also, I just find it funny that her, if I remember
correctly, her. Yeah.
Her middle name is Devi. Devi.
Yeah. She's born in 64.
She's 59 years old. She got married in 2014.
And I just, it's so strange to just just to look at her and
realize that she is the avatar of Jim Clyburn's political
leverage in the United States of America.
For those who don't know, Jim Clyburn is an old black Southern
Democrat in the South Carolina. I think he's like the 6th
Congressional District there and one of those powerful black
politicians in the United States and he basically.
Still alive. Yeah, he's still alive.
He's still around. I don't think he died.
He's still, I think he's still in office.
And he basically got the Biden campaign in 20-20 to say like,
if you want the black vote and if you want your campaign to
stay afloat, you know, promise a, a quote, UN quote woman of
colour for your vice presidency. And you know, lo and behold,
Kamel Harris, what's the result of that?
But you know, she's now the presumptive nominee after palace
intrigue for for Joseph Biden. And it's amazing how fast he's
disappeared from the the the media doll.
Like he occasionally shows up and he's like little 32nd clips.
But they know he's a disaster. They know he's non
accomplishmentist. So we got to keep him away from
the public to remind everyone it's all about her.
It's all about her. Joe Biden doesn't exist.
You know, if someone on Twitter said that liberals don't have
object permanent. So if he's not in the news, he
doesn't exist. And so Joe Biden doesn't exist
with these people anymore. It's such a good, it's so good.
And I think it's true. So I mean, for her, like, you
know, it's I, I want someone to ask Camelot the breakfast
question because I want, I need America needs to know.
America needs to know how she would feel if she didn't have
breakfast this morning. Yes, oh man, the only the only
problem with her now being being being the presidential nominee
that she's hopefully she has a debate with Trump.
That'll be delicious. But I would love to you would
get you would get that question from JD Vance.
JD Vance would would oppose her that question if she was still
the VP any of the VP debates. I'm I'm almost guarantee you
that JD would would, would would land that one in her lap just to
to see her squirm. But let's, OK, let's let's play
a little bit more of this. So apologies folks for putting
you through those, but. I was like pull out of Venn
diagram, right? And so you know, that's three
circles the television coverage of just yesterday.
That's on top of everything else that we know and don't know yet
based on what we've just been able to see.
And because we've seen it or not doesn't mean it hasn't happened,
but just limited to what we have seen for us at every moment in
time, and certainly this one, to see the moment in time in which
we exist and are present, I can imagine what can be and be
unburdened by what has been. There.
We'll end it there. There's more of it, but we can.
We can end it there. She says that like imagine,
imagine what I can be while being unburdened by what has
been. I think she could pass the
breakfast question answer, but you know, I'm being way too
charitable here. But it it's like you just look
at the face like she's made for like middle-aged sitcom mother
who it's like the first, it's like the first episode of
Desperate Housewives. Like she would be on that pilot.
And you just know that she's about to say these things and
then go cheat on her husband. Like that's exactly what would
happen in any other world. But now she's most likely to be
like the most powerful person allegedly.
Well, no, she don't even she won't be in charge.
Like, let's not kid ourselves. This is the reason why you have
that. It goes back to what we were
just talking about. Like the difference between the
left and the right. She is the embodiment of a
system. We have an intersection system
here where, you know, Speaking of Venn diagrams, when when
Trump raised the whole is she really black deal us?
I think some progressive, you know, shill pundit or whatever
did a Venn diagram to explain that she's Indian and Jamaican,
but she's also black. And they put that in the middle
of, you know, the three circles. And so this is where we're at.
But I'm. Surprised.
I'm surprised she hasn't leaned into the Jamaican thing.
Come out speaking patois like she's doing the whole Ebonics
thing. But she'd be like what?
Me me no me no. Take booty judge as my VP, No
butty boy allowed. No, but no butty.
Clap bumper, clap the loud man. Well, it's because it's because
black voters hate non, you know, blacks.
I mean, if there's something this is, I mean, This is why I
find the the timeline has been so interesting to watch, like
Tariq Nasheed go off on a Bender about Kamala Harris and then for
it to be retweeted by people like Greg Price and Steve
Saylor. It's just like this great stack
of people who are commenting on this.
But I mean, if there is one fundamental truth about like
inter scene minority politics in America is, is that, you know,
African descendants, you know, American black descendant of
slaves or Adolf Howards go or how he calls it foundational
black Americans. They can't stand Africans and
they can't stand anyone from like the the Caribbean.
There's just a huge disconnect of culture and belief because
the ones that come here from elsewhere are richer and well
off and they don't take the same kind of handouts that American
blacks do. Whereas, you know, they'll come
here and they'll get a nice grant to go pay for their Ivy
League education or their Med school.
Whereas like, you know, your average African American in the
United States, like on EBT or some kind of welfare or, you
know, is dealing with the American criminal justice
system. Cause like a third of them have
felony convictions, if not more. And so they're a huge
disconnecting culture. So she's not going to embrace
like the Jamaican side. She's not going to embrace the
Indian thing because she knows that she has to cater to his
very specific set of populations.
They don't really vote, but their precinct captains and
their election judges vote for them.
So, you know, it's all about keeping the oil machine going.
But I mean, someone today was talking about like code
switching. It's like, it's not quote code
switching. I thought the JD Vance, you
know, and he did it. He's at the border doing a tour.
And someone asked about why Trump mentioned the race thing.
And it was just, well, simple, you know, like, you know, if
you're not going to be honest about who you are and you're
just going to be basically, I, I, I was playing off the old
song, you know, Karma chameleon. You know, like, if you're going
to be Kamala Chameleon in this instance, then you need to be,
you should know what you're dealing with and getting into.
I mean, it's so it's, it's like whiplash to talk about electoral
politics, but it is the season because I normally don't cover
this kind of stuff at all. But it, you know, as a side
tangent, man, it was really entertaining to to see Trump at
that national black journalist conference or whatever, taking
questions that was, I try really hard to avoid the, the magic
dragon that is like the Trump energy and meme blacks.
But it was like, put it into my veins, buddy.
Just like, let me have a hit of that because that was, dare I
say, some keno. Well, the way he shut down the
first, the first they had people haven't watched this.
I'm sure I have a clip here somewhere.
But we'll, we'll, we'll skip to more prevalent stuff.
But Trump was on stage with three black journalists, three
female black journalists and as I guess presumably the the crowd
was mostly African Americans or blacks or journalists or
whatever. Have you.
The crowd reactions to a lot of this stuff was really cool
because if you got like a mixture of like, oh, and
clapping and like booing. But the first woman sitting to
his right, it kind of launched into him, you know, calling him
racist and all this, all this stuff.
And he just shut her down by, you know, by saying, wow, that
was really nasty. I was really rude.
And also you made me wait for 30 minutes and he just like curb
stomped her and then basically. Poetic irony of a black event
being laid by 30 minutes. Right.
You're on Caribbean time. What do you want?
Did you see that? Did you see that?
Because there was three women and the other two women kind of
caught on and were nicer to him and posed, well, nicer.
They were professional. Like, it's not even about nice.
It's just that you're actually, you know, being journalists for
a second. And there was one woman sitting
on the far, far right. And Trump kept saying, I can't
hear you. Their mics kind of screwed up.
I can't really hear you. And it felt like he was trying
to make them switch like they never did.
But he almost wanted, almost felt like he was going to make
them like switch from the woman sitting next to him who was
really nasty. It almost felt like he wanted
them, like, to switch seats. And then that would be the the
ultimate power move of some, like.
No, no. Yeah.
I want her. Have her sit next to me.
That's nicer. You know, it's just gotta love
it. Yeah.
OK. Let's talk about the memetics of
all this. Or so we have Kamala Harris.
Oh, you actually. Sorry.
Let's do this because you shared this recently.
This might be the, the. This might be.
The spoiler as to who Kamala's running mate is going to be.
Set this up and you can tell me a bit more about this guy
because I don't know too much about him.
Yes, OK. Philadelphia, we got work to do.
We're running around with y'all. There's Shirelle Parker here
with leaders from across our region.
Kamala Harris is on the road to victory.
And the road? Goes to Pennsylvania.
And in Pennsylvania, we are united behind her, the woman
that's tough and can lead. Are we ready to fight for it?
She is the right person at the right time for this job.
Is going to do right by labor, going to do right by working
people? And I can't think of a better
partner than. Our governor, his policies have
not only supported the working class, but have set standards
for progressive leadership that benefits all citizens.
Philadelphia building trade IBW for Kamala Harris.
Montgomery County, Bucks. Delco, Chester.
We're getting. OK, we can leave on there.
There's your Oh God, oh. What a what a curse.
Oh Lord Jesus Christ unto God, have mercy on these sinners like
this. No, this is, but this is it.
There's, there's your poser child, there's, there's your
model, right, there's your, there's your Kamala voter, 2024
Kamala voter. This is.
It doesn't get any better than that.
You wonder if she's childless. I hope so.
For. Her children?
No, she's probably got like two one of these games.
Yeah, I mean, Josh Shapiro has four, so no.
So tell me about the Shapiro guy.
So the, the, the clip that we're playing was put out by Shirelle
Parker, who you heard at the beginning.
Mayor Shirelle Parker, proud to her tweet says this quote, proud
to be back with so many leaders across our region supporting
Kamala Harris for president and Josh Shapiro, the governor for
VP. We were one city, one region 1
Commonwealth United. And of course, she ties all the
people that were in this, this little video.
And so I don't know if it's just a, a, a draft Josh Shapiro.
We, we do know that Governor Shapiro has been in contact with
Kamala Harris. Traditionally, the vice
president is never announced in their respective home state.
So, but so if this is the case and he is the one, then cool.
And so Greg Price tweeted out and he says there's a 100%
chance that they were supposed to schedule this post for next
week. But some dumb staffer for the
mayor of Philadelphia accidentally revealed that
Kamala Harris is picking Shapiro for her vice president.
Potentially. It's just a draft movement.
We don't know. The Democratic National
Convention has not yet happened in Chicago, but I think that
it's a pretty good lean. The other big name that was out
there was Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, the husband to former
Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, who was famously shot at, led to
gun legislation. But As for Josh Shapiro himself,
Josh Shapiro is the recently, he was recently elected into, into.
He was, yeah, elected in 2022. So the 2022 election was who he
was going for and he was going against Doug Mastriano and the
Republican side. But I mean, it was it was not.
I mean, 2022 was not good for Republicans period.
This was also in the wake of the Dobbs decision as well.
And so between unpopular down ticket candidates for the
Republicans, I mean, candidate quality is a thing, but also
spending your money effectively to get out the votes a whole
other. But yeah.
So he's been in office for a couple of years.
And prior to that, he was the Pennsylvania Attorney General.
And he has been in politics for most of his adult life after
graduating law school. So he's a professional
politician. He by the last name is a Jewish
governor, which makes things all the more interesting.
So this will be the first time he'll be the first he will be
the first Jewish individual on the ticket for in the history of
the United States. And it will be the first time
that a a white man is not on the ticket here in the United States
for a major party. And I imagine that this will be
sort of the future going forward for Democrats as they continue
to be the party for minorities and resentful whites.
And this will kind of be the dynamic you have your your
strong woman of color type deal or however with your, you know,
well to do business kind of white guy or or some light
skinned passing kind of character, I think is how it'll
be in the future. But so he's the I mean,
Pennsylvania went for Trump in 2016 and went blue in 2020.
It's been progressively getting more and more blue in the same
way Virginia has over the last several decades.
So it's safe to say that they're playing for this East Coast
swing state. Aim for Georgia, get
Pennsylvania, keep Virginia. Whereas, you know, the Midwest.
I don't know how that's going to go.
I think Trump's been playing it with JD Vance as an obvious pick
for the Midwest, and then the game is going to be about who
can pick up Nevada and Arizona. Well, explain to me something
because you probably know this better than I will, but
certainly know this better than I do.
She's off the ticket on three states, isn't she?
Because. Because they missed the cut off
point to replace Biden with Harris.
And where was it? Kentucky, two other states as
well where she's not even eligible to be on the on the
voter roll because of because they have to because Biden was
the was the nominee. They put they, they placed Biden
on the on the on the ticket and now they can't change it.
They're past the the time to pass the to change it.
And at least at least one of the states, they can only change it
if Biden dies, which is still an option.
Just saying you could wake up Ted one day.
So I I don't even know how she like, you know, unless they
really, really fortify this election, I don't even see how
she that how the Democrats can can feasibly win with three
states off the ballot. Or am I missing something here?
So I'm, I'm not sure where you got that from.
How, how I understood that the only real legal issues that
we're going to have to be fought with was actually with the state
of Ohio prior to even Biden stepping down was because the
nomination has to be done and they have to have their party
nominee selected X number of days before the election I think
was 90 in order for them to be on the ballot in that respective
state. I don't think I mean with her
already securing the delegates and making her the presumptive
nominee even before the. Oh, I'm just checking this right
now. She just secured the delegate
vote to become the Democratic nominee for president.
Yeah, I, I just, yeah, I saw that.
So I mean like so clearly, like she's got it.
Like she will be the Democratic nominee.
They will coordinate her and make this a big lovely gay black
round kind of, you know, sport, you know, the the Obama
coalition 2.0 really this time just all the more insufferable.
And so I I know the. Thing if she doesn't, if she
doesn't roll around and cow shit it doesn't, it doesn't count.
So I'm saying like. Well, we'll see, you know,
we'll, I wonder if she'll participate in any, you know,
dipping and diving into the river Ganges when she does a
diplomatic toward India. But a man can dream.
A man can hope that, you know, she'll catch something or
whatever, but it's a disaster nonetheless.
So I, I don't think there's a ballot problem there at all.
The the question is just going to be about get out the vote
efforts. I mean, she's seen a huge bump.
They, they, they show all these numbers about how well she's
doing in fundraising. But I mean, like she just became
a candidate. A lot of that money was already
in the Biden war chest. That's not just be transferred
over. So you, we already know how this
is going to go and you know, people are living off the high
of 2016. And I think it's important to
also consider 2020 and that Trump's ground game is being a,
it's a novel strategy because new rules for with the FEC have
allowed this money to be spent with other groups in
coordination. So you're working with TPUSA and
other voter outreach groups. So it's not just the Trump
campaign doing GOTV efforts, which is interesting.
We'll see how well it works. It's a non traditional approach.
It's taking advantage of new rules.
But man, I'm talking about stuff.
I haven't talked about it forever.
And it's I, I, I think we'll, we'll have to see.
I'm continuously not all that impressed with Chris Lesavita.
And I think what's her name? Like Susie something Susie Wiles
or something like that. The the Trump campaign heads.
Susie cream cheese. Yeah, I'm not impressed.
You know, like their their interview with the Atlantic the
last month that came out was just absolutely atrocious.
You know, well, every Karen we lose and it's like, oh, look at
that, an anti white slur. We'll just win a Jamal or a
Jose. And it's just like, it's not how
it works. Like even if you got a like 13
or 12 prime, yeah, 13 to 12% increase in the Hispanic vote,
that's still not barely enough to account for like a one to 2%
loss in the white vote. It's just not.
And so again, I think that unless Trump is willing to do a
lot of the get out the vote efforts to get those
economically and politically dissatisfied and non interested
white people, especially in the Midwest.
But like we saw in 2016, like good luck and also the
procedural Kabuki theater that is American elections is still
on the table. The unsupervised, you know,
ballot boxes are brought back in.
I think it was Wisconsin and the the one other, I guess like
silver lining is just that in Arizona, at least the federal
courts upheld that you do need proof of citizenship to vote and
it's disastrous. That bare minimum statement or
requirement has to be uphold by a federal court and millions of
dollars being spent in legal fees.
But that's the the joke of quote UN quote, democracy in the
United States. I I think of that demeister
quote all the time. You know a country or a people
gets the government it deserves, and you know how long?
Oh Lord, how long? Well, you know, there's a lot of
discussion, I think in in certain ortho spheres.
I know Father Turbo Quail's waited on this, but Trump
avoiding having his having a very bad Sunday a few weeks ago,
it was a Sunday, I believe. Yeah.
And by just turning his head by a few millimeters and you know
there's. Yeah, it's a Saturday night.
Sunday morning, right? Sunday morning time for me is
always wizzle because yeah. Well, it was, yeah, it was a
Saturday evening, but I was just even referring to it
liturgically. It's a it's a Sunday morning.
Right. Yeah, Yes, exactly.
Yeah. And the, I definitely think
it's, it was a grace. Now, because we're talking about
God, we don't understand. We may not understand what the
grace was. It may not even be a grace that
we understand in our lifetime. But I definitely do think it was
a grace of some sort. That being said, I think if
people start to believe that Kamala and Co don't have a
chance, they're not paying attention.
I think they definitely do have a chance, legal or other or
otherwise. They don't have to, you know,
massively fortify this election for it to be a referendum on
Trump and and the system itself. What do you think of this?
And we'll start wrapping things up a little bit.
But Vivek has come out and said something along the lines of
that the that what they're running against really is a
system. I think that's a very effective
narrative tool to kind of almost ignore Harris all together.
And this whole weird thing they're trying to propagate and
all that stuff like saying like, look, she's not, she's not that
important, right? She's just a talking head.
She's a, she's a, she's a representative of this system
behind her. And that system is going to
continue. So if you think your life is bad
now, it's not going to get better just because you put
Kamala in and she made all these promises and POC and yadda,
yadda, yadda. Yeah, it's the system behind her
that is going to continue to wreck your life.
And then you can make it a referendum on not on Trump, but
on the system itself, on the regime, say, or whatever term
you want to use. And by I think by if they can be
successful in doing that, that creates a new dynamic and really
puts the question to the American people.
And of course, maybe I'm, I'm being a bit too hopeful for
this, but because I don't think anyone wants to see massive
change in the government in any way, shape or form.
But if you can structure it in some, in some way that really
puts it, puts it as a question of do you want this thing to
continue doing the thing it keeps doing to you every every
few years? If the answer is no, then vote
Trump because Trump's going to change that system.
Trump's going to actually, you know, drain the swamp or, or
start to break apart this this, this regime that's that's
ruining people's lives. What do you think of that?
I can just monologue. No, it's OK.
My apologies. I realized it was muted.
One of the beauties of sort of political formula in general,
and it's also sort of the quote UN quote, flexibility of the
American constitutional system is that it is remarkable of how
you can frame things and still keep the system as is, but also
you can add a lot of things to it.
I mean, let's let's not forget that a cabinet level secretary,
the, you know, the secretary for the Department of Homeland
Defence, that came from the Bush administration.
That is a relatively new piece of government in the same way
that, you know, the United States Space Force is and other
parts of America's intelligence and security apparatus.
And yet it all operates under the confines of our legal
document that was drafted and, you know, debated and accepted
and ratified back in 1787. And so, you know, it's a
remarkably structurally sound thing, even if it gets abused on
the regular, like legally, we still abide by it.
We still have court cases about it.
And so that gives you a lot of wiggle room to do things with
it. I think that every time that you
look about it, yeah, I think Vivek is right that it is a
referendum on the system. It has always been a referendum
on the system and what the system is doing that creates
these election events as the sort of politics of last resort.
I tell people all the time that the most honest 5 minutes of
American government in recent memory was the Brett Kavanaugh
general hearings, because you had former Senator Ben Sasse
explain to the American public that Congress doesn't do its
job, it's abdicated its responsibility, and that we let
unelected bureaucrats run this country.
And when unelected bureaucrats do something that the American
people don't like, the politics of last resort becomes the
Supreme Court. And that's why it is the most
politicized office in the world in the United States, because of
that, because it is the politics of last resort.
And nine unelected people can determine the course in the
system. And we already know how it
usually works when it gets to 50% + 1 on a progressive issue,
it tends to vote that way. And it's been that way for a
long time. I mean, I was just reading
yesterday or earlier this week reading a essay from the New
Right papers and that was from. Tune into that stream was.
Good. Yeah.
I mean, it's really good stuff. And we were reading Traditional
Supremacy by William A Stanmeyer, and Stanmeyer was
talking about how the slippery slope is, you know, the
undefeated champion of the United States.
We went from this invented right to privacy about married couples
within their domicile using contraceptions to just less than
10 years saying actually, no, any random stranger can not only
kill their child, but, and if they're a minor, they don't even
need parental notification about it.
And so again, over these invented rights of privacy and
doctrines that they invent and so on and so forth.
So you have a lot of wiggle room to do things As for this, I
think that you're, we both kind of know that she's not in charge
and that whoever will be telling her what to do is doing so.
And I think it's very key with how she how her messaging is
going. Like this is the most gendered
election more than Hillary Clinton was because the people
who are behind I think Hillary Kamala Harris's election stuff,
a lot of them are, are women. You can see this by how she
acts. You can see by how she talks and
how she cuts. And like even the the recent
video she did where she was at with her records and she was
showing like how her her basically her black street cred
with, you know, all these Miles Davis and other jazz.
She's in those streets, she's in those.
Streets, she's in the streets, she's in the streets.
But you know, and and again, Tariqna, she is getting all
upset like no person believes that she's black.
It's like, no, but this is what white millennial Democratic
voting women think constitutes blackness.
That's something just again, it's a very important thing to
consider sort of the greater Veltunschung of how these
messages are going like the this is a very millennial progressive
system, at least how it's memetically coded.
Structurally. Not so much.
I got some proof for you and and again, Lord forgive me for for,
for what I must do, but let's just play this.
This is this is a Kamala supporter.
Have you heard of this woman? She was part of the White Women
for Kamala. Is this going to be one of
those? Yeah, it's already right there
in the title. It's the gentle parenting.
It's that. It's not even gentle parenting.
What it is, is what I imagine people try to convince elderly
people in homes what to do to take their pills before they're
brutally beaten. Yeah, this is millennial white
woman like Meta this the this is like if you put all the bad
things of millennial white women together.
This is what spits out just. I'll play a little bit.
Hi, friends. It's time to share the Arctic.
Now your turn is all done Got it got it.
I know you like when people share with you Well, you need to
share the earth with everyone plants, animals and people.
The White House had to take special.
She's having a conversation with like clips from from online
clips from newspaper clippings like this is this is how batch
it can create In saying this is so action to protect 13 million
acres of land in the Alaskan Arctic because the Arctic is a
super special place. Yeah, people need gas for cars
these days, but there are more respectful ways to do it all.
Taking things from super special places hurts nature.
So let's turn your choices around and find ways to help the
Earth instead. Did you know places like the
Arctic need to stay cool to keep our plan at the right
temperature? When you I can't, I can't.
I can't. Sorry, I can't.
It is this is. This is.
This is this is your, this, this is your voting base.
This is it. This is, this is the, this is a,
this is a spokesperson. This is an influencer that
they're using. Just get the word out.
And it works, I mean, and it works well.
And, and again, like, you know, I'm, I'm not on, I don't, I
don't, I don't know if you are and I won't speak for you, but
I'm going to safely presume you're not on TikTok and.
No. And neither am I, but I.
But that sort of stuff is there all the time alongside trends
and dances and book talk, which can be just basically women
describing what kind of, you know, bloody dime novel they're
reading. But the, the point is, is that,
you know, that's a, that is a medium that you and I are not
part of. It is a medium for younger
people. It's in the same way like
Facebook is for people that are older than ourselves.
And it's. And you're not even 30 yet and
you're saying this stuff. Yeah, like I'm pushing 50.
Like I, I look at, I, I tune into that and go, this is
diseased. This is cursed for.
Disease let's see for this mRNA, this thing out existence.
I don't know what it is, but I don't want anything to do with
it. Instagram gives me the heebie
jeebies. So like you know, TikTok is just
one stage. It's like it's like Instagram
but Chinese. Like no, I'm not No, no, no, no,
no. Yeah, but it takes the the best
parts of like Snapchat where it's like it's like 30 to 92nd
clips and then they like kind of like just disappear because it
goes to the next part of your feed.
And so I, I, and is because I have like normie friends who
send me these things and I don't have the app installed.
So I have to like manually click the link open in browsing mode
on my phone. That way I can ensure that I can
watch the damn clip that they send me.
It's like, well, because some of it can be interesting, but it's
like, I've also already seen this on Twitter.
So thank you. And again, it's just different
mediums for, for different overly online consumers.
But The thing is, is that what we're witnessing is a I, just I,
I, I call it speciation or maybe like neurological speciation or
something. Like you really are going to see
huge differences in how people behave and interact politically,
socially, spiritually, based upon what kind of technology and
media they interact with and consume and use as an extension
of themselves. You and I are not Tik tokers.
We're we're Youtubers. We're we're bloggers.
We're Twitter people. But manly men doing manly?
Things manly men doing manly things, you know, you know,
saying GM in the in the group chat every morning.
And so when you do these things, like it's in a different way of
politically engaging and alongside the world, not just in
politics. And in doing so, you know, we're
witnessing like just a whole totally different creature on
the other side of like the, you know, the looking glass.
And it's almost sort of like a Morlock and Eloy situation right
there from HG Wells's The Time Machine.
Like, you know, like what? Look at that.
And you're just like, do do you have any relationship to that?
No, not really. But you all share technically a
territory and you all technically are going to vote in
this election. And so, you know, I this, you
know, meta narrative state of conflict that we're in
illustrates, I think a very clear point that, you know, this
is a generational turn we're beginning to see on the right,
Gen. X sort of emerge and have its
voice politically, but also the left is taking the millennial
and zoomer approach to politics because they know the
demographics is on their side in that respect.
And so now we're beginning to witness a clash of a generation
that has some memory of how things used to be and how things
were once good versus one that has grown up entirely in a 24/7
constantly politicized. Everything is problematic,
everything is intersectional. Everything must be
intersectional. And this is the great clash.
And I think to some extent, this is my like random prediction
here, sort of Mcluhan esque is, is that I think that we're going
to stop doing generations as much about what years you were
born in, but what technology you grew up around.
Because there's plenty of memes now that we'll talk about.
Like, for instance, I was born in 95.
They'll have all these memes about like, oh, people, what
kind of tech or what kind of video games you played in 1995
and how you grew up with it, which of course illustrates what
kind of technology you grew up around and what kind of things
you were exposed to. And so for these people, it's
like, you know, TikTok, it's the the trends, it's the, you know,
mini bag and a project or whatever the trend is these
days. And that is going to be the
great way in which these these sort of political visions for
the world express themselves, despite the fact that she can be
completely oblivious because she's wealthy and white doesn't
have to worry about these things because, you know, she's a rich
white progressive. Never going to see the terrible
side of it, which is what we see in Southport for which we saw in
Dallas or what we've seen in any other place where some illegal
immigrant runs over, kills murder, shoots whatever, and
gets off Scott free because of her politics and her justice
system. And I can't even say it's her
directly responsible because she's been brought up in that.
She's been acculturated, inculcated everything possible
to say like she's the good person.
He is part of what is considered the moral majority here in the
United States, that these things are just the things that you
accept because once a certain issue gets decided, say
Obergefell V Hodges, right? Like, you know, sodomy and
marriage in the United States, you know, a lot of Republicans
just rolled over and died on it where a few short years later
they voted to preserve it in federal law as a protected
class. So, you know, this is how things
go with the ratchet. And for the first time in my
lifetime, I have witnessed from the Supreme Court legal
victories going in the other direction, Dobbs, Chevron,
affirmative action and things that I presume more to come,
even more so with gun rights and the rest.
And so, you know, this, this election, I think, you know, at
least Meta, politically speaking, it is a clash between
generations, a totally different exposure and usage of medium and
media technology. And I think for any young white
guy, I can already tell what your politics is just by looking
at you. You're either on the right or
you're going to take finasteride to preserve your already
decaying hairline. You're going to come out as gay
in two years. Like I just that's sort of the
way it's going to go. And that's sort of the disaster
in which we live in the the terrifying aspect of that is
because Americans and a lot of Westerners are so deracinated as
it is because of all the things that have come before us, it
becomes very shallow and it becomes very, very hard to adopt
things with any actual meaning. Religion is a terror is a great
example, but it's also a terrible tragedy because you
know, the, the flag in your buyer or what kind of cross you
put in your buyer. You, it's like for most people
it's not you, but the royal you. It's a, it's like a fandom
thing. It's just like a little cap you
put on to say I'm on team Yi, put on the flag of the papacy,
I'm on team Catholic or whatever.
But I mean, do you go to Mass regularly?
Do you pray the rosary? You put the Byzantine cross in
your bio? Like do you go to liturgy
regularly? Are you confessing?
Are you in good standing? Do you and say the Jesus prayer
everyday like in things like that.
And it raises a great question. It was just like, OK, so we are
all these group of people who are so deracinated that even
regional identities are being brought down to these consumer
identities like, oh, Texas, you know, it's not just like San
Jacinto or it's not, you know, remember the Alamo.
It's it's fucking HEB Bucky's for God's sakes.
Like, it's such a disaster for what it means to be rooted in
something that the only thing that you have left is a consumer
identity, which is the shallowest thing possible.
And the same thing is happening to religion.
Same thing is happening to national identity.
And in doing so, the very people who hold on to any genetic,
political, spiritual memory of what this place used to be,
again, are the ones they wish to ethnically replace, cleanse.
And again, just make it so, as Michelle Goldberg wrote in The
New York Times in 2020, we can indeed replace them.
And that's sort of what we're seeing play out in a lot of the
Anglosphere countries right now. I think there's a really good
place to to end it. We could go on.
It's a. Terrible place to end it.
It's so it's so dark. OK, let's, let's, let's, OK,
wait. Oh, you're right.
Let's, let's instead of getting black pills, let's, let's, let's
draw some white pills. Because here's what's changed,
right? Here's what's changed from 2016
and 2020. And again, this is hats off to
Matt Erickson for, for doing all the work on this with the PayPal
mafia and the, and the, the new counter leak coming up.
And then I mean, this is, you can weigh in on this and try to
be positive there. Peru, for Christ's sake.
But I, I take a lot of I, I'll tell you this.
I speculated when, when Matt had done all that work, we kind of
found all these connections to Peter Thiel and all, and all
those kind of networks and Elon Musk and etcetera, etcetera,
etcetera. I looked at the potential VP
picks on for, for Trump and JD Vance stood out like a, like a
beacon to me. It's like that's a direct
connection to, to Peter Thiel and that whole network Now, so
is Vivek, but Vivek's sort of a little bit on the outlier, a
little bit outlier, even though he's, he's deeply tied to, to
JD. And also I don't think the
optics on, on Vivek is, is as strong as, as JD in terms of
winning over large swaths of, let's say the Midwest and even
the South. So, so you have this candidate
now, this mimetic candidate, the, you know, we're going to
have Gerard, Randy Gerard possibly in the, in the White
House, which is very, which is very interesting to me.
And you have this whole new counter elite basically all very
visibly and vocally casting their weight behind Trump.
Marc Andreessen being one of the big ones, right?
And Marc Andreessen's is kind of taking over to Peter Thiel's to
taking a bit of a backseat 'cause he had a, this is got a
little bit of, you know, water cooler talk.
But Peter Thiel's of course, homosexual.
The his his lover fell out a window a little while ago,
tragically. And there's and then also Peter
kind of took a, a back seat, kind of withdrew a little bit
from some public, you know, appearances.
So. Kill one rent boy and then you
get scared. I don't know.
I mean, come on, man. Close to home, man.
Well, I, I don't think it was I, I, given what the, the ex lover
was threatening and some of the people stuff that was also being
discussed. I think that you don't just let
that slide. I'm not saying he did it, but
I'm sure someone close to him whacked him.
But you know, that's a, that's a palace intrigue for another day.
I mean, the, the thing to add on to what you're saying is, is
that I think that I shared that article with Matt Erickson.
But this was an article written by, of course, these two commies
back in the 1990s. But I thought it was
particularly interesting that they outlined what was known as
the Californian ideology, which is this laissez faire cultural
libertarian attitude where I want to make a lot of money, I
want to build things, I want to be successful.
But if anything, if you mess with me, I'm going to go to war
with you and I will run to the state if there is a threat.
And we've kind of noticed this throughout the history of
American tech when it comes to dealing with outsider money or
companies trying to buy up parts of Silicon Valley.
And a lot of it does go to the back to the state and they run
off to get some protection or to get what they need in order to
be competitive. And so now you're witnessing a
great leviathan screw with America's wealthy people.
And it's very strange because it's like, I'm no fan of the
rich either for my own reasons. But, you know, they're also
witnessing the absolute insanity that's been going on, and we're
sort of witnessing. I mean, I've been on record
saying that I think the Delaware decision against Elon Musk was
the Rubicon that we're all expecting Trump to cross it.
But I think his backers crossed it when they basically when a
judge in Delaware came down on a decision against Elon Musk
saying that the money that he was going to be paid out for
Tesla, it was invalid. And then they, they almost
basically seized it. That was, I think the moment
where the entire VC class had came up and went, what do you
mean? Like we had, we were playing
this game. We know the rules of this game.
Yeah, sure, it's, it's it's shitty and rigged.
But we don't, we understand what the rules are.
And now suddenly you just change the rules because you don't like
Elon because he said because he's not bending the knee
enough. He didn't kiss the wall
passionately enough. What's, what's the deal?
I I personally think that was the multi inflection point when
all of a sudden Trump became the most viable candidate for that,
for that kind of early to happen.
For me. My producer is My producer is
trying to give me. Notes, of course, of course.
Go ahead. Yeah, No, for me, I think one of
the things that also came out was very strange.
And the one that really said, OK, I can't work with these
people anymore was when the DOJ Civil Rights division basically
said, we're investigating Elon Musk as particularly all his
stuff with SpaceX because they aren't hiring refugees and
asylum seekers. But by federal law, he is not
supposed to hire those people because he has contracts with
the Department of Defense. And so you're, you're, you're
prioritizing efficacy and national security for the sake
of ideology. And any time that that happens,
you know, and you're you're doing basically, you know,
suicidal Lysenko ISM with national security interests,
anyone, regardless of their business sense or not, it's
going to say, OK, this is this is crazy.
It is kind of interesting. And maybe again, it goes back to
that we get the government we deserve that basically, you
know, God's biggest creditor and also the richest man on earth
has been now leading the cause to get Trump elected.
I mean, $45,000,000 a month up until the election is no
laughing matter, especially when a lot of that money from what
was discussed by Jesse Watters and others on Fox is meant to go
towards election transparency efforts.
So I mean, you've got a, a war chest and it's going to be
nasty. It's going to be bloody and it's
going to make 2020 and it's going to make 2000 look like a
snowball fight. But it does offer us an
interesting Ave. that we're witnessing much larger powers
that be than ourselves Duke it out.
And this is sort of where where we stand, you know, and I, I
tell people all the time, you know, I take trust, not Princess
and the sons of men very literally.
But at the same time, I know that I would go insane if I
wasn't, you know, reminded that God gets the last word on these
things. But it does seem that, you know,
like, like with what Elon said in that recent interview, you
know, with his his son basically being dead over the transgender
stuff. It's just like if there wasn't
ever Hell hath no fury like a vengeful father.
Like you talk about the vengeful son a lot.
But I think what we're witnessing, especially with that
Gen. X moment, there are a lot of
angry dads that have witnessed the loss of their, you know,
their posterity and their inheritance.
And you, you can do a lot of a man to break him, but the thing
that will either break him or to make sure that you kill him,
because if not, he's going to make your life a living hell,
it's to go after their children. And you have crossed and I mean
this, this whole ideology, this whole regime, this whole system
has gone after the very thing that, you know, we just heard
right there, which is the children.
Yes, that's my child, pipes up. We should end this year because
I do have to go be a dad. But just to touch on that, the
vengeful, the spirit of the vengeful sun.
It's I use the sun analogy because of because of the using,
you know, the Trinical father and the, and the, and the sorry
and the devouring or smothering mother as precursing spirits.
So the sudden motif kind of works in that sense.
But that spirit of, you know, screw you.
I'm not going to do what you're telling me to.
I'm going to tear your things down.
I'm going to break your toys. I'm going to, I'm going to tear
this thing down. That's the motivating thing
behind it. And I think Elon is the poster
child for that, for that spirit and where he's and he models
millions, maybe even billions of people.
So as that spirit becomes more and more modelled by, by Elon
and on that platform and and many others, I think you're
going to start seeing these what I call totalized violence, which
is not going to be kinetic. It'll be in every shape and form
of people going around going, no, I got betrayed, we got
screwed, we're tearing this thing down.
And you know, either he gets directed in some way that's
beneficial. I don't know if we can openly
speculate on that, but or it it turns internal, which is which,
which is my fear about it because I think that's how you
get Burma. Well, well, Jason, we have 94
days to speculate until Election Day.
And we, we the, the, the meme that nightmare vision started on
Twitter. Like you have less than one
year. I think that the one word of
caution I would say is, is that if you say to your enemies, you
have less than one year, that means you also have less than
one year to prepare for both victory and defeat.
And God willing, we should prepare for both.
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