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Hi, Thomas. 
That's Thomas saying hello, 

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folks. 
Yeah, how are you doing? 

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Good brother, how are you? 
Thanks again for making the 

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time. 
I always appreciate these talks.

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You know, I, I sent someone 
months ago when we first started

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doing shows together. 
I'm like, it's, it's a very 

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humbling kind of experience to, 
to have Thomas 777 on, you know,

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on speed dial essentially. 
So I, I always appreciate it 

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man, when you can make the time 
to come on the show. 

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Yeah, of course I I appreciate 
being invited to do such things 

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now. 
So got you here to talk about 

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the BLOB specifically and then 
wind conditions and a whole 

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bunch of other things that are 
kind of connected to this. 

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Part of the inspiration for 
talking about this whole thing 

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is I think there's we discussed 
this when I had you on the show 

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talking about Ukraine and even I
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that there's people have to 
understand a wind, what a wind 

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condition really is. 
And by setting your sights to 

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these unfathomable, what kind of
what you're going to conditions 

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that sound good on paper and 
certainly, you know, can be a 

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cool narrative device. 
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boots on the ground and you're 
actually trying to do something,

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a lot of these wooden conditions
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So now we're having to lead up 
to the election 2024. 

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You know, there's a lot of 
people gathering behind Trump 

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and, and Vance and PayPal Mafia 
and all these other things that 

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we've talked about on the show 
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And I think there's a lot of 
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by getting these guys in, that's
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We won and things will just get 
better and millions of people 

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deported and yada yada, yada, 
yada. 

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I think what they're really 
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massive disappointment, partly 
because the, the, the election 

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really isn't Republican versus 
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It's people versus the system. 
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is challenged and in some ways 
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substantial way, which is not 
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going to be done in four years 
by the way, by my my reckoning, 

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then then we're just going to be
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the term the BLOB. 
Mark Benz, the former State 

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Department guy who's been making
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has defined it by by saying the 
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combination of the State 
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community and the Defense 
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So the diplomacy, defense and 
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the United States or the 
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conjunction with the corporate 
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So banks and financial 
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corporations that kind of feed 
off each other and this explains

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a lot of geopolitics that we're 
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conditions on the ground 
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immigration policies, etcetera, 
etcetera, etcetera. 

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So as I'm sitting at that table,
so you can dine there, Thomas, 

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maybe we we can start with, is 
this where did this kind of 

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start? 
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begins this this sort of 
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starts to coalesce. 
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certainly right after World War 
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fruition or partly full fruition
after World War 2 with with a 

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new deal. 
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the assassination of JFK and has
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this unworkable thing, which is 
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because on one hand it's it's 
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inherently evil and has to be 
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now that we're seeing as it's, 
it's starting to fall apart in 

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one way shape or form. 
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lot of preamble for me, but 
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all that? 
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I mean, what are you asking me? 
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shape and configuration is, the 
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it's like that? 
Is that what you're asking me? 

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Yeah. 
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this BLOB thing start? 
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Because I think you've, you've 
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bit with Pete in both post 
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collapsed. 
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of Detente, like there's like 
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that are, that are, let's say, 
not no longer centralized in one

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in one power verb. 
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can't say that the, that the 
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executive branch really holds 
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has been dispersed throughout 
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institutions and organizations 
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independently and, and 
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And I think it's, it's, it's 
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understanding exactly what we're
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moves on the ground. 
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asking me like, what the 
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regime we live under, it's got 
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murdered. 
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There has been there has been a 
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like geld the executive. 
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Nixon, like the term imperial 
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during the Johnson 
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lot of the accusations that were
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I'm not talking about the 
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the executive overreach and 
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began under Johnson, you know, 
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this risk of, you know, the 
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Article 2 and, and, and in the 
modern state, that's just too 

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much power for one man to wield.
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too, on this idea that there's 
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the Vietnam War and that it 
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realization of what policy was 
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like things like that. 
I don't think power is really 

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diffuse. 
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concentrated, but it's not, it's
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And public official, though. 
I'm like nobody, nobody takes 

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the government seriously 
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You know, that's why there's 
there's a what if these people 

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represent government? 
They're they're like game show 

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hosts like Donald Trump. 
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of like nothing people like 
Missus Harris, who, you know, 

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like nobody takes seriously at 
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It's like pretty ladies in 
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bikinis, but he's like weird gay
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they're kind of professional 
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they're, you know, they're kind 
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know, various interest groups 
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And so their, their, their job 
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represent those interests and, 
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capacity in the US Senate. 
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stuff seriously anymore. 
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a Trump hater, but Trump's not a
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Like, he's silly and like the 
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towards Washington these days is
because of what I said like 40 

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years ago, you, you would not 
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Washington. 
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have Elon Musk, you know, either
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was, if the country was, was 
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advisory role that indexed very 
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Defense establishment. 
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You know, he'd be very much a 
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who's sort of bread and butter 
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like, you know, developing, 
developing proposals that would 

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rectify, you know, the, the 
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and, and things going into deep 
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that. 
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The government you live under is
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government of George Washington 
or something just with like high

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tech around it and, and, and 
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It's in 1933 was, it was as much
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created the Roosevelt 
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revolutionary imperative like 
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national social state. 
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you know, two decades previous, 
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the Soviet Empire. 
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state. 
It's, it's objectives are social

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engineering, the establishment 
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you know, and the conditioning 
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eradicate any, any historical 
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or psychological basis basis of 
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self concepts, you know, other 
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regime approves of. 
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like non political, like like 
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be political. 
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like I'm not, I'm not a 
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I'm, I'm like a gay person or 
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know, like believes in these 
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Like it's not really an 
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like precedent sentence. 
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reason, the reason those things 
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I said, you know, because it, 
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politicization of identity off 
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renders man into, into into, 
into into just kind of looks 

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like a nerd, like integer kind 
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So I mean, that that's, that's, 
that's what that, that's, that's

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the underlying objective of the 
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So like, if you, you can't 
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the, if you talk about the 
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the wrong people are staffing it
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liberals or like Marxists as 
these like illiberate people 

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call them. 
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Like it's the the configuration 
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implement this social 
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And secondarily, it was tailored
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it kind of accidentally put 
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Like people like Bush and Baker 
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people think of those guys, like
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Like they, this wasn't like some
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level of the deep state, like 
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like I, you know, they, it, it 
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and the institutions they served
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themselves. 
Like after November 9th, 1989. 

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You know, that's why that's why 
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sense. 
Like even at the point again, 

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again to people that like, like 
NATO was moronic, like even if 

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you had this concept in mind 
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that like Russia is just like 
grave, like security threat, OK?

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Like you wouldn't configure a 
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NATO because that's obsolete and
it doesn't make any sense. 

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And like a treaty, like any law,
it's only, it's only worth the 

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proverbial paper it's written on
if conceptually it reflects like

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actual circumstances, OK. 
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charter, look, America's not 
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Hungary as an attack on the 
United States, OK? 

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That's not that's not going to 
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That's ridiculous OK, so this 
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exist for the sake of existing 
and it's like some moral 

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imperative for it to exist. 
That's bizarre, OK, but it's 

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because of what I said it's 
because the regime's not really 

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structured to do much. 
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structured for a globalist 
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it's inflexible and it doesn't 
it doesn't apply power and and 

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nuanced way. 
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like at the level down to like 
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You know, when America deployed 
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was like following these like 
Cold War imperatives, like we're

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going to train indigenous 
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It's like to do what like fight 
the imaginary Soviet Union. 

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Like that's not how you do 
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Like if you wanted some kind of 
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Afghanistan, you know, to kind 
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if you know, to kind of keep 
Kodak standard Bay to, you know,

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to, to be able to like, you 
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Russian Federation in Central 
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put pressure on India. 
Do you want like, OK, get that. 

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But running around pretending 
it's 1963 and you're in Vietnam 

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and you're training indigenous 
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So that's, that's a big part of 
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The problem with people thinking
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policy level too, like 
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right now is very purposeful, 
you know, and I, I'm not looking

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anti Donald Trump, like I hope 
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going to be an election. 
Why wouldn't there be? 

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Trump's race to lose. 
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wins. 
But JD Vance is a piece of shit,

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you know, and Trump doesn't 
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Like the the significance of 
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of the silent majority and his 
emergence was like a game 

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changer conceptually. 
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history shows Trump kind of like
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Oh, Nixon was out of the farmer,
like impressive person. 

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But this idea that, you know, 
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the third world and her auspices
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like this isn't something like 
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not because like the system is 
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No, nobody's going to stop that.
Like even like even if like JD 

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Vance was like an honest to 
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and not and not some like piece 
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because the the regime derives 
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that like this is an ongoing 
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You know, like that's why. 
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too. 
I mean, look at like, like the 

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Sinaloa Cartel does basically 
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And so Washington's like 
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Like when when Escobar declared 
he was, you know, he put a price

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on the head of any DEA agent in 
Colombia. 

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Bush's like that's not 
happening. 

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So like Bush had the guy whacked
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had him killed, you know, and I 
I wasn't at the time and I'm not

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now without only some direct 
action solution is the way to 

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fight the that's not the way to 
stop narcotics. 

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OK, but you do have to return to
serve if your credibility is 

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being threatened by by what 
amounts to like some some dope 

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pushing mafia. 
You can't allow that, you know, 

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but it's but this stuff is you 
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Vance and and people like Trump.
And again, I'm not I'm not like 

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anti Trump. 
They, they, they derive their 

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entire career life's blood from 
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these contingencies like aren't 
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You know, so they represent kind
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you know, kind of like middle of
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understand the nature of these 
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You know, they're going to feel 
like they're striking back by 

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like going to Trump or they're 
like, Trump's going to like fix 

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like the police or something, 
or, or that he's going to like 

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deport like criminal aliens. 
Like it's not going to happen. 

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That's not doing things work. 
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state is actively dying. 
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Pete's podcast, I, I'm, I'm, I'm
all going to be dust. 

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Like by the time it totally 
dies, it's going to be like, you

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know, it's going to be like 2 to
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not it's, it's, it's totally 
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You know, it's this idea that 
it's this robust thing and you 

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know, some kind of like right 
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it. 
That's totally fucked up 

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thinking. 
But I mean, that's if I 

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understand that question 
correctly. 

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I mean, that's the best way I 
can answer it. 

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Yeah. 
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we're covering a lot of ground. 
The, the challenge always is 

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concept is, is this conceptual 
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addressed and has to be smashed 
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You know, one of the reasons I 
started doing this show or one 

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of my personal reasons was to 
what I, I said it was I needed 

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to break the liberal frame. 
I needed to break free of it to 

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be able to see it and see what, 
what exactly this thing is. 

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Because I've been defining 
myself as a liberal and up until

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probably somewhere in, in 2020 
is when I just finally said I 

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can't, I can't, I can't ride 
with this stuff anymore. 

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Most because it's, it's, it's 
providing too many 

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contradictions for my brain to, 
to be able to deal with. 

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Like you can't have all these 
different things on a, on a 

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personal level, you can't 
believe in all these things. 

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When they start hitting, you 
know, they start smashing each 

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other in the face. 
So to rewire yourself 

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conceptually and to see things 
clearly, it's, I'll put it this 

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way, and I think this is 
devotilling to something else 

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you've said on the show is that 
this political game isn't for 

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everybody. 
And part of the reason why it's 

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not for everybody is that you 
got to start. 

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You have to be able to distance 
your your heart from your head. 

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You got to take from the things 
that you want to be true in this

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narrative that you're going to 
create. 

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Someone in the comments said 
tell King Pill that Thomas is 

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attacking his boy JD Vance. 
I want to get into that a little

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bit because when you you started
going against, you started going

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hard on JD on, on XI guess a 
week ago, whatever. 

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Yeah. 
No, I, I don't, I don't want to 

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talk about JD Vance anymore. 
I mean. 

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Pete No, no, no. 
But yeah, no, no, I mean, you 

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can ask me whatever you want, 
but I just. 

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Yeah, I go ahead. 
No, it's, it's, it's not even 

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really an ask. 
It's, it's, it's, it's a 

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clarification for anybody who's 
coming to the show and, and 

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wondering about this stuff. 
I won't speak for Matt, but I'll

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speak loosely for Matt, myself, 
Pete and a few others. 

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We've been saying since the 
very, very start with the PayPal

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mafia stuff and, and a lot of 
these other things that we're 

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telling you explicitly that 
these people aren't our guys. 

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Like stop thinking that because 
someone says something that you,

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that you like that all of a 
sudden he's, he's your boy that 

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you got to ride with this guy. 
Like as you said on X, it's like

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JD Vance is not picking up the 
phone to help you. 

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No, no. 
I. 

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Mean there's that. 
Too, Yeah, I mean, people got to

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people got to think locally. 
I mean, corny as that might 

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sound and you know, like not not
being F e.g. 

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GOT who like thinks like regime 
personalities or like looking 

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out for him. 
But it's also like people get 

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obsessed on these like one 
issues that I mean, it's like, 

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like, even if like JD Vance was 
like this big, like immigration 

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restrictionist and he was like 
sincere about that. 

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Like the whole like, like, so we
wouldn't suddenly like live in 

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this like worldly heaven if like
immigration stopped. 

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Like, yeah, that is a big 
problem. 

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But it's symptomatic of, you 
know, of a historical phenomenon

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that is, is, you know, is, is, 
is, is incredibly dangerous to 

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us at, at political and, and, 
and physical level, you know, 

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like it's not. 
So sometimes there's that too. 

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There's like these like one 
issue motherfuckers and they 

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like can't shake that out or 
something like they're just like

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similarly obsessed with 
something like immigration or 

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like gun rights, like again, 
both of which are like important

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or they think that like personal
prejudices are like politics. 

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It's like, like the fact that 
like, you don't want blacks in 

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your hood or you like, you don't
like Mexicans. 

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That's not politics. 
That's like some kind of like 

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social problem, you know, like, 
yeah, I don't want mass 

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immigration either. 
And yeah, there's people I 

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there's some people I prefer to 
be around and some I don't want 

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to be around, But like you're 
not, you're not like standing on

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politics. 
You're like, well, I don't like 

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N words. 
And it's it's great, man. 

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What do you want? 
You want a participation trophy 

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or a pack of gum? 
I mean, it's, you know, but 

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that's why, you know, like I 
said, man, it's like 900% of 

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people it's like aren't in the 
fucking game, you know, and it's

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like, I don't it's and also too,
I mean, like I said, like it's 

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not, there's an entire apparatus
to like import the third world 

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here. 
That's not just going to like go

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away, OK. 
And even if, even if you start 

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enforcing existing laws again, 
like the Raisin vitro, the 

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regime is social engineering. 
Like that's why they're doing 

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it, you know, and you know, 
these personalities like Vance, 

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and again, I mean, I'm not, I'm 
not going to deep dive into him.

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I, I don't want to talk about 
him anymore really. 

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But you know, they, they build 
entire careers on the existence 

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of these policies. 
Like without those policies, 

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they wouldn't have a career. 
Like that's why they're here. 

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You know, it's, it's like a guy 
sitting your house on fire and 

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then coming back 20 minutes 
later to sell you a fire 

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extinguisher. 
And like when I call him my 

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asshole, you're like, hey, he 
can put the fire out. 

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You know, it's like it does not 
compute with people, you know, 

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But again, I'm not here to make 
friends or like educate people 

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to think like grown-ups. 
But it's you know, I'm not 

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trying to like G check people 
hard as fuck either. 

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OK, But I mean, I do have my own
like little litmus test. 

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And it's kind of like also I 
insist on like if people are 

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going to like do business with 
me or like associate with me 

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deeply in any capacity or like 
expect me to like cosign on 

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their brand, I basically insist 
like they come here like 

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literally in my physical space 
and like hang around me at least

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like every few months. 
Like I'm not talking about guys 

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like you are in Australia or 
whatever, but also you don't 

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like make demands on me to like 
I do things other than, you 

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know, you know, it's not to host
me on your streams and stuff. 

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But you know, I'm not going to 
fuck with guys who like live on 

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the Internet and think that and 
and think that like they're 

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politically engaged because like
they don't like N words on the 

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subway. 
That's fucking that's literally 

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like mentally retarded. 
Everybody's just kind of a rant,

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but you know. 
It is. 

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It is better. 
These these things need to be 

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said and these and these things 
aren't being said in a lot of 

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our sectors of the Internet. 
Everyone just caught gloms on to

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being a dissident and they don't
realize that being a dissident 

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isn't an idea, isn't a group, 
isn't a political Action Group 

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or an NGO or somewhere. 
We're not doing that. 

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It's a vibe. 
And you got to get with the vibe

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and and the and the vibe isn't 
just like, you know, wearing a 

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button or some bullshit. 
It's it's it's it's living it 

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like you got to live it. 
And one of the things just to 

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return back to the to King pill 
and all the rest of us, what 

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we're talking about, and this 
goes into PayPal Mafia, Vengeful

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Sun. 
A lot of the things we've been 

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talking on the show quite a bit 
is what I'm trying to get 

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through to people is like, look,
when we have a breakthrough and 

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we start to see things clearly, 
what it affords you is the 

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opportunity to start making some
choices, right? 

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And, and to start and to start 
aligning yourself to people who 

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are also making the same 
choices. 

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So This is why it's really 
important to get through your 

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head that the PayPal mafia and 
those guys, the technologists 

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aren't your, aren't your 
friends. 

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They might just give you a 
window of time where the boot 

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gets off your neck for a little 
bit and you can start making 

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some moves rapidly. 
There's also, there's something 

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to say there's a real hubris to 
these guys too, man. 

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Like if you read, and again, I 
don't want to, I don't want to 

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get into some big like stupid 
like Internet fighting with 

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people about Peter Thiel or 
something. 

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But if you read the guy's own 
words, man, it's like very and 

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like his book, it's like very, 
it's like very like Epstein. 

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Like like I'm not, I'm not 
suggesting teal is like a sexual

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offender. 
I mean, I know he's gay. 

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I've I've no reason to believe 
he's like victimizing underage 

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people. 
I'm not saying that at all. 

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But this like transhumanist, 
like bizarre shit. 

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Like, you know, we can do 
nanotech. 

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We're going to, we're going to 
become immortal and we're going 

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to, we're going to index with 
machines and like upload our 

442
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080
consciousness, like really crazy
sick stuff. 

443
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Like he believes in that shit. 
Like he's not just like writing 

444
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,920
science fiction and it's not 
just cap to get people talking. 

445
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000
He believes in that. 
And it's also he's the same 

446
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,640
motherfuckers, man. 
These are the guys who decided 

447
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,360
they were going to like cancel 
Trump. 

448
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,480
You can't cancel a president of 
the United States. 

449
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Like who the fuck are you? 
Who do you think you are? 

450
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,240
You know, like you, you, you, 
you have some like veto power 

451
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,320
over political discourse now. 
I mean, like they literally 

452
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,200
think that though. 
Like they think that this 

453
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,600
cognitive elite, they think that
they're, they think that they're

454
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,760
almost like an ethnicity into 
themselves of, of like, like 

455
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,360
that are like however many like 
standard deviations like above 

456
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,880
the normies. 
Like they think that like they 

457
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,040
were no like weird sex stuff 
because they're like, oh, we're 

458
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,880
like, we're like beyond what 
breeders do. 

459
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,640
Like I'm telling you, it's like 
a whole ideology. 

460
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240
I'm not just talking trash or 
something like they're really 

461
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,800
like sick people, you know, and 
the fact that they're into like 

462
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,600
eugenics and stuff and some like
arguably like right wing things.

463
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,680
That doesn't mean that they're 
like dope and based. 

464
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,960
It means they're like really, 
really, really weird and like 

465
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,520
kind of drunk on their own 
hubris. 

466
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,640
And they live in this like weird
bubble of like billionaires 

467
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,320
where you can like do whatever 
you want and like, there's not 

468
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,240
really consequences. 
And people like literally go 

469
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,800
crazy from that kind of thing. 
But I'm not saying TO was like a

470
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,520
he probably was not a very nice 
guy like before he became 

471
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,320
wealthy and powerful, but it 
it's very corrupting. 

472
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,640
OK, so I mean, these guys 
playing you, you, you, I mean, 

473
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320
it's not a good thing that 
Trump's like be holding to these

474
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,880
guys and it's not at all OK. 
That's that's not Trump's fault.

475
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,200
Trump's an old man. 
Frankly, I got like mad respect 

476
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,920
for him that he like took, he 
took a shot to the fucking Dome 

477
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,720
and he's he, he came back 
without fear and he doesn't seem

478
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,240
particularly shook by it. 
But I mean, Trump's a hairy, 

479
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,800
tired old guy. 
And I mean, in any, whether 

480
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,560
you're talking about when you're
talking about our kind of 

481
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,880
bizarre and unfortunate system 
or ancient Rome or the 3rd Reich

482
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,800
or like wherever you're at in 
time and place, if you're a 

483
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,920
politician, you need people to, 
I mean, shit costs money, OK, 

484
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,480
not to vulgarize it totally, but
you've got to find people who 

485
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,440
are going to patronize what 
you're doing. 

486
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,400
So I mean, it's not Trump's 
fault, whatever else I can say 

487
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,720
about him. 
But the fact is he's like 

488
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080
accountable to these people, 
man, you know? 

489
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,160
And that's not a good thing. 
You know, like I said, I'm not 

490
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,680
convinced an election is going 
to happen. 

491
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560
But if it is, I absolutely want 
Mr. Trump to win. 

492
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200
But that's not the point. 
And I want Trump to win for a 

493
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,800
struggle reason. 
It's not because he's going to 

494
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,720
do incredible things on the 
policy front. 

495
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,600
But I don't mean to struggle 
reasons like, you know, 

496
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,040
protecting the record or 
something. 

497
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,920
I mean, you know, in terms of 
like where we're going and, you 

498
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:18,200
know, checks on, on what informs
the kind of ongoing moral 

499
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,600
discourse, you know, stuff like 
this. 

500
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000
But but yeah, it's not no, go 
ahead, man. 

501
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800
No. 
It's all right, let's get into 

502
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560
where we're going, but let's 
first we'll do a pause for the 

503
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'cause this is the mid show 
grift. 

504
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Let me just play a little bit of
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I also hate the beach and don't 

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I know, Thomas, you have been 

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528
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Yeah, I'm a big, yeah, I'm a big
coffee addict and they, I am, I 

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am very loaded up with their, 
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is great. 
And they're. 

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How is it give us give us a 
review 'cause I, I, 

532
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unfortunately I mean. 
Me personally, I, I, I mean, I 

533
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really sound like a total like 
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534
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bold flavor of like not too 
bitter. 

535
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Like I don't like bitter blended
coffees. 

536
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And a lot of times it actually 
indicates overcooked beans, you 

537
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know, 'cause they like blast the
beans with the heat. 

538
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You probably know all it is, but
they they blast the beans with 

539
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the heat. 
And a lot of these like 

540
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industrial, I don't know what 
you'd call it. 

541
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Factory. 
Factory yeah, they, they, they 

542
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just like blasting on the heat 
and like, they come out like 

543
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charred as fuck. 
And so like when you get like 

544
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when you know, when you get when
you get coffee that, yeah, even 

545
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if it grinds up nice and it's 
got a great aroma, but it's like

546
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super bitter. 
That generally means they're 

547
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like overly they're like they're
burned. 

548
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But no, it's, it's a great 
brand, man. 

549
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And I like I said, I my, I like 
coffee and cigarettes, like 

550
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essential, man. 
I mean, that's, that's kind of 

551
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taste for and most writers have 
like coffee and nicotine in 

552
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their veins, I think, and no 
exception. 

553
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But yeah, they're, I can vouch 
for them. 

554
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They're they're very good and 
they've been readers and sending

555
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me like big bags of free coffee.
Steve's great, Steve's been on 

556
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the show before and I'm sure his
sons are following in that 

557
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tradition. 
If you want to go check it out, 

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time. 
It's a good deal for all of us. 

562
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Please like, subscribe, share 
the show, Thomas. 

563
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We'll use this moment because we
usually do at the end. 

564
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But show your stuff, my friend. 
Let people know where they can 

565
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get you, where they can consume 
your products and help fill, 

566
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,600
fill your bag up a bit. 
And then we'll get into future 

567
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plannings and where we can go 
from here collectively or in 

568
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units there. 
You go. 

569
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,160
You can always find my content 
on my website 

570
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:19,480
itsjustthomas777.com. 
It's #7 HMAS 777.com, I'm on 

571
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,000
Twitter, I'm on sub stack. 
Sub Stack's the best way to, you

572
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720
know, I, I post some 
announcements. 

573
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,680
We got up there and we got a 
pretty active chat. 

574
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,360
I mean, like I said, I, I, my 
big thing is, you know, like 

575
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,680
during my travel season, which 
is basically, you know, spring 

576
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
and summer through early fall, 
you know, like I go over the 

577
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,360
country just like hang out with 
people who, you know, and we've 

578
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,960
been building quite a network, 
which is incredible. 

579
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,640
I mean, but be as in May, like I
shout out like where I'm going 

580
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,320
and, and like what's up with our
peoples here, as well as other 

581
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,600
places on the sub stack. 
It's also like where you can 

582
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,040
find like my long form stuff. 
I throw videos up there and I'm 

583
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,680
going to start throwing more 
video content off. 

584
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,880
That's what the podcast is. 
I got a biweekly podcast called 

585
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,600
Mind Phaser. 
It's real 

586
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,199
thomas777@substack.com. 
I'm on Instagram. 

587
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,760
I mean, I, you know, I got my 
dear friend here at Krieg, he, 

588
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,960
he mocked up some like MERS for 
me, like shirts and hats and 

589
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,800
stuff, which I, which I think is
like they've actually been like 

590
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400
selling really well, man. 
Like I people for the long, I'm 

591
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,199
kind of like AT shirt guy and 
stuff. 

592
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,080
I mean, there's people probably 
noticed, you know, I like like 

593
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,280
clothes and hats and like 
T-shirts and things like I 

594
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480
always did. 
So they were always saying like,

595
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,840
yeah, you got it. 
You should mock up some of your 

596
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,600
own designs, man. 
So like I, I started doing that 

597
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,199
with my guy Krieg and yeah, they
people have been, there's 

598
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,679
apparently like a real demand 
for, I mean, which is a great 

599
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,679
honour. 
I, I'm glad I can deliver stuff 

600
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:56,679
to people that they enjoy in 
that regard. 

601
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,600
But yeah, I'm all over the 
place, man. 

602
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,920
I'm on Instagram. 
I probably said that I'm on 

603
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560
Telegram, just like seeking. 
You shall find what you hit on 

604
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,760
my website up to sub stack. 
And you can always reach out to 

605
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,720
me if you hit me up by DM, I'll,
you know, and like I said, 

606
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,480
assuming you're not like a a 
fucking cornball, I'll I'll pass

607
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,320
on a number you can reach me at.
You know, I prefer people hit me

608
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,200
up by text because I I only 
keeping up with like 12 fucking 

609
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,240
platforms. 
But yeah, that's basically my 

610
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,320
deal, man. 
OK. 

611
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,520
You mentioned networking and 
essentially creating, 

612
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,480
essentially creating. 
I mean, the term is the network 

613
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,760
stick has been used by more of a
technocratic kind of element. 

614
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,320
But I think one of the things 
that you're doing and, and 

615
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,760
others are doing as well 
Metaprim is is involved in this 

616
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,240
is a whole bunch of our guys, 
especially the younger guys who 

617
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,960
are really involved in doing 
this. 

618
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,640
I've got my own project that I'm
working on in the back in the 

619
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,240
background. 
So one of these things is, is 

620
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,920
essentially getting people 
together and, and actually being

621
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,080
able to use them and use, I 
shouldn't say use, but directing

622
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,880
people, you know, harnessing 
human capital. 

623
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000
And in my my lingo, I'm saying 
that we're going to, you know, 

624
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,840
harness human capital to produce
civilizational capital. 

625
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,200
We can call this parallel 
societies. 

626
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,800
There's lots of jingo terms 
thrown out there, but it's but 

627
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,040
the way I see it is that no, no 
matter how things shake out in 

628
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,400
November, the the OR January or 
whatever, they freaking announce

629
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,880
anything, the task still remains
on us. 

630
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:47,680
The white man has to rebuild 
society for, for for ourselves 

631
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,920
in, in our image. 
That task is not is going to be 

632
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,120
ongoing. 
That's a generational thing that

633
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,320
doesn't that no election is 
going to change that mandate. 

634
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,400
So maybe we can speak on that a 
little bit because I see a 

635
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,360
little that, and I know you've 
talked about this in the program

636
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,360
before, but sort of the the 
importance of creating that 

637
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,520
network. 
And since you're more on the 

638
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:16,640
ground in the States than I am, 
obviously, maybe you can speak 

639
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,720
directly and start getting out 
some white pills for people who 

640
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,920
are feeling like that this BLOB 
thing is is too big to to too 

641
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,680
big to fail or or is just going 
to dominate their lives for for 

642
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,760
from now until eternity. 
Well, I just don't. 

643
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240
It's just, it's a, it's either a
lack of perspective or people 

644
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:43,000
just fearful of any punctuated, 
of any change, like either long 

645
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,480
duration and kind of gradual or 
punctuated, you know, I mean, 

646
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,720
the point of people again and 
again, man, like bad as things 

647
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,400
are now, like 30 years ago, they
were, they were, they were 

648
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,520
exponentially worse. 
They, it, it was awful. 

649
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400
Like I didn't, I didn't realize 
so much at the time. 

650
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,920
Like now that I've got, I mean, 
now that I'm old, I mean, that's

651
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,440
part of it. 
You get old, you get perspective

652
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
on things. 
But it, it, it was fucking 

653
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440
horrible, man. 
And like everybody hated us. 

654
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Like everybody hated us. 
You know, I remember, I remember

655
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,120
Randy Weaver getting smoked or 
his family getting smoked, and 

656
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,280
it was awful. 
It just a whole, I mean, they, 

657
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,080
they shot a woman holding a 
baby. 

658
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,200
Literally. 
It's not a cap. 

659
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,160
It's what happened. 
I remember reading it in a 

660
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Metzger newsletter and I 
remember on CNN and I and there 

661
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,520
was even people I knew who were 
like, yeah, the guy, the guy was

662
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,760
a piece of shit. 
He was a Nazi. 

663
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Good. 
I mean, that that had never 

664
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,200
happened today, man. 
Like something like Waco, people

665
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000
wouldn't tolerate that today. 
Like burned a bunch of little 

666
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
kids alive, you know, just 
because and, and, and, and 

667
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,280
whacking crashes because he had,
you know, unconventional beliefs

668
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,840
and stuff. 
Like people wouldn't tolerate 

669
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,240
that today, man. 
And I used to have to, I mean, 

670
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,560
it wasn't just me. 
It wasn't just like what guys? 

671
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,840
I mean, I grew up in a really 
nice hood. 

672
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,360
I'm lucky, man. 
I grew up in the North Shore, 

673
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,640
which is like freaking awesome. 
But you know, if I wanted to go 

674
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,520
anywhere, like outside of my 
little hood, I have to like plot

675
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,200
where I went, man, because in 
broad daylight, I you'd like get

676
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,440
stomped out if you're like a 
white person or killed like 

677
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,120
that, that's unthinkable. 
Now, man. 

678
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,240
Like, I mean, don't get me 
wrong, like Chicago is like a 

679
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,440
mess and there's still like a 
poet. 

680
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Like I will not go to to be like
fucking. 

681
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,920
I mean, I basically go 
everywhere, but it's like I'm 

682
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,960
not, I'm not going to go fuck 
around in like little village 

683
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,760
like after dark and just like 
poo. 

684
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,440
I'm tough or something. 
And like you will get like like 

685
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,680
you will get fucking dropped 
there. 

686
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,520
But my point being, man, like 
we're not, we're not in the 

687
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,760
cross bugger race war between 
like our people and blacks, OK, 

688
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,760
Like we're not I, I, I'm openly 
right wing and like, if anything

689
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,000
it, it, it, it makes people like
gravity to me want to talk about

690
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,240
stuff like 30 years ago, like 
people would like be like, fuck 

691
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,640
you, you're a piece of shit. 
You know, like, like we were 

692
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,840
fucking people hated us. 
Like now I would say virtually 

693
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,800
mainstream. 
And also even somebody like me, 

694
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,880
man, if I, if this was the 80s 
or the 90s, I, I'd be like 

695
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,120
working at Kroger like. 
Overnight or like driving a 

696
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,920
truck or something and like 
writing and like, and probably 

697
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,040
like sending my content to like 
the IH Metzger war newsletter 

698
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,520
and like maybe 20 guys had read 
it, which is what it went fine. 

699
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,080
But now I mean, I, I, I've got 
10,000 subscribers to my sub 

700
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,880
stack. 
You know, I, I can like I'm not 

701
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,680
getting rich, but like I'm 
monetized. 

702
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Like it's basically mainstream 
to talk about, you know, how 

703
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,720
court history is, is is a 
fallacy. 

704
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,280
You know that it's it's, it's 
totally changed man. 

705
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,400
And also just like the Mobil, 
it's way cheaper to travel. 

706
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,920
Like commerce is way easier. 
There's always like there's 

707
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,400
always like there's always like 
non traditional commercial 

708
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,400
banking structures. 
Like you can send money to 

709
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,800
people, they can send it to you.
It's there's a record of it, but

710
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,320
it's, it's like not above board 
in the same way there's a 

711
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,840
crypto. 
It's not a huge fan of crypto. 

712
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,920
If there's nothing wrong with 
people, if that's their drive, 

713
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,720
you know, and just I, I'm not 
going to see where it is, but 

714
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:27,920
you know, I'm, I'm planning to 
start spending winters in this 

715
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560
town where like a bunch of the 
fellas live. 

716
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,200
And it's like a deliberate 
community, man, like organically

717
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,560
developed of like people like 
us. 

718
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,600
And they all go to church 
together, like they homeschool 

719
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,240
their kids together. 
Like we all try to get jobs. 

720
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,080
Like, you know, some of the guys
like on real estate, they like 

721
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,960
rent to our guys. 
I mean, like, it's like night 

722
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
and day, man. 
And you don't need to fuck with 

723
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,240
government stuff. 
You know, I'm limited in how I 

724
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,600
could even I want to do because 
I'm a convicted felon, 

725
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,840
obviously. 
But I I don't want to, I want 

726
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,400
nothing to do with that shit. 
Like, not just because it's 

727
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,960
fucked up and because they want 
bad things that happened to me 

728
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,920
and my people, but like, why? 
Why would I want to fuck with 

729
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,080
that stuff? 
That stuff sucks. 

730
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,400
It's stupid. 
It's like literally like stupid,

731
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360
fake and gay. 
Like, why do you want to fuck 

732
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,880
with that? 
Like I realized there's some 

733
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,320
guys like if you got like a wife
and three kids and you know, you

734
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,800
like you're, you've got a law 
degree or you got you. 

735
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640
So you got to like work at some 
like big city law firm or like 

736
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,200
you got you're like a molecular 
biologist. 

737
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,480
So like you work at some big 
like medical company and like 

738
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,920
you got to say, OK, yeah, I get 
that. 

739
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,840
But even that man, it's like, I 
don't, I that's why I don't like

740
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,480
respect guys anymore where it's 
like they live this totally fake

741
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,640
life and they're like afraid to 
be seen in public with people 

742
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,160
like me. 
And it's like, bro, like, so 

743
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,640
basically you're like some like 
Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde 

744
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,320
motherfucker. 
And you're like, you like live 

745
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,480
like a fake life psycho. 
Like that's fucked up, you know,

746
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,680
and a lot of it's just like a 
cope for like coward Easter. 

747
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,440
I mean, some people are just 
like afraid of I probably got a 

748
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,440
higher tolerance for like 
literal chaos in a lot of people

749
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,080
and it's probably not a great 
thing. 

750
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,480
OK, so I basically don't ever 
worry about anything. 

751
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
I mean like even if like the 
shit totally the fan, it 

752
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,720
wouldn't really bother me. 
Like I know that's not what I'm 

753
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,120
not saying because I'm like a 
bad ass or like a survivalist. 

754
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,480
I mean I am an urban 
survivalist. 

755
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,720
But what I'm saying is like 
psychologically like honestly, I

756
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,120
would not bother me. 
And it's probably easier for me 

757
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,000
to say as like a single man 
without kids. 

758
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,720
But point being, I think people 
are basically built one way or 

759
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,400
the other and they're like 
basically comfortable with that 

760
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,080
kind of disorder or like really,
really screws with their 

761
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,920
program. 
Like psychologically it like 

762
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,480
really throws them off, You 
know, I mean, don't want to be 

763
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,000
wrong. 
I definitely got like a Teutonic

764
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,200
fixation towards order because 
like my German granny, like my 

765
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,400
dad's always making fun of me. 
He's like my sock drawer. 

766
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,320
But I'm also like totally a 
piece like in I, I don't know, 

767
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,720
man, like just certain 
conditions that probably should 

768
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,120
not be objectively as like a 
civilized fucking human. 

769
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,240
But no, we're our mandate, our 
mission. 

770
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:21,040
What we do is secede from 
government shit as much as 

771
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,000
possible, like rebuild, 
reconstitute and think in 

772
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,560
generational terms, man. 
And that's exactly what we're 

773
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,240
doing. 
And I continue to be like 

774
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,880
shocked and in a very positive 
way and amazed that I didn't 

775
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,480
think any of this would take. 
I knew that I knew that 

776
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,040
eventually this would happen. 
OK, But I thought I'd be like 

777
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,560
long dead. 
Like I thought it would happen 

778
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,960
like 100 years. 
Like after I died, I, it kind of

779
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,720
blew my mind to see it 
happening, start happening like 

780
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,120
about like 810 years ago and 
then like five years ago, like 

781
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,640
really in earnest. 
And I'm like, wow, I'm really 

782
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,520
blessed to be alive. 
And, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm 

783
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,160
pretty, I'm pretty old, but 
unless I, I, I'm not planning 

784
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,200
getting took off the shelf by 
man, beast or act of God anytime

785
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,400
soon. 
So I, I think I'll at least be 

786
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,000
around a couple more decades. 
And then, I mean, I, that's a 

787
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,920
real gift, man. 
Cuz in my own small way, I get 

788
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,880
to contribute and especially cuz
I don't have kids of my own. 

789
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,320
The fact that like, young people
are willing to hang around me 

790
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,640
and like having me on deck, I 
mean, that's, that's a great 

791
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,520
honor, man, and approval. 
Yeah, I mean, I've said, you 

792
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,480
know, I have one, I have my one 
daughter. 

793
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,600
I've said that unless you have 
kids, if, if you don't have kids

794
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,760
then and you and you want to be 
politically involved and you 

795
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,240
have to give a lot more in some 
ways, like having kids is a 

796
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:47,080
little bit of almost a cheat 
code because biologically you 

797
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,960
begin to respond and it's, it 
restructures a lot of your 

798
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,560
thinking and a lot of your, 
let's say, vision for the future

799
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,720
because you're not just living 
for yourself anymore. 

800
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:04,800
So the, the, I guess the desire 
to sacrifice becomes almost 

801
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,080
easier when you have kids, when 
you don't have kids, you really 

802
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,600
have to be, you have to motivate
yourself. 

803
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,080
And I think in, in different 
ways. 

804
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,000
And I mean, this is, you know, 
one of the reasons I always give

805
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,920
you a, a healthy dose of healthy
dose of respect because you 

806
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,360
don't have to be doing what 
you're doing. 

807
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,760
And yet you're doing it anyways,
'cause you're, I think you're, 

808
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,880
you're cluing into something 
that I unfortunately clued in 

809
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:34,640
too late, which is, I'll, I'll 
put it this way, the BLOB, the 

810
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,360
regime, the system I think 
started going made us big 

811
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,080
fractical error probably. 
And I don't have the exact date,

812
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,920
but from my casual observation, 
somewhere in the 1970s where 

813
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,440
they got really over their skis 
and they kind of began this, 

814
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,520
this system of a, of, of 
attacking the white man. 

815
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,200
And I'm using this as I'm not 
even using this as a racial 

816
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,520
identity kind of way. 
I'm not an ethno state kind of 

817
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,880
guy. 
But at the same time, this sort 

818
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,840
of anti white SIOP starts to 
really take hold. 

819
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,640
I As far as I can tell, 
somewhere in the 1970s I. 

820
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,160
Mean they progressed the Cold 
War had a really deforming 

821
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,600
effect and one of the reasons I 
objected so precipitously when 

822
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,480
people claim that like people 
like Missus Harris or people 

823
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,080
like Chuck Schumer are like 
Marxist like they're they're not

824
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
like at all like Marxist. 
There aren't, there aren't any 

825
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,440
Marxist anymore. 
But but but aside from that, 

826
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,680
like these, these people aren't 
thoughtful people like like 

827
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,840
first of all, but secondly, the 
kinds of political values they 

828
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680
abide and the, and the kinds of 
things they probably like take a

829
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,680
knee for. 
It's it's dialectically related 

830
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,320
obviously to the 20th century 
paradigm, but it's very much 

831
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,080
like it's own thing, you know, 
but it is, it's very much a 

832
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,640
quote UN quote like 
liberationist ethos. 

833
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,840
And that's why, you know, I'm 
like very much a Hegelian, you 

834
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,920
know, like, I don't really see 
how you can, if you're, if 

835
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,080
you're at all like inclined a 
political theory and you're like

836
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,320
right wing. 
And I don't see how you could 

837
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:17,000
like be like a non Hegelian 
thinker. 

838
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,640
But so I, I probably put more 
emphasis on, on the dialectical 

839
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200
process at scale and some 
people, but I mean, like 

840
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,480
Zeitgeist is a real thing, man, 
you know, and that's why that 

841
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,960
that's the way you got to 
understand it. 

842
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,680
And this idea of, you know, 
well, we got the the only way 

843
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,520
that the only, the only way that
the world makes sense in 

844
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,640
sociological terms, like a 
conceptual level is OK, like 

845
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,760
what? 
What's the oppressor cast? 

846
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,320
Or at least like the overcast. 
Well, it's not, you know, 

847
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,840
obviously, you know, it's, it's,
it's not, it's not a strictly 

848
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,440
labor and capital paradigm 
because that that that concept, 

849
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,320
that consensual model failed. 
OK. 

850
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,760
It must be like racial. 
It must be like the white 

851
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,880
people, they're like oppressing 
the brown people, you know, 

852
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,720
they're like this overcast. 
You know what I mean? 

853
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,520
Obviously that, I mean, even if 
that was true, like So what? 

854
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,840
Like that, that would why, why, 
why, why should I fuck with 

855
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,920
that? 
Like, you know, I'm not like 

856
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,920
right or wrong. 
I, I don't care if my tribe and 

857
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,280
most evil motherfuckers like 
tread this earth, you know, like

858
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,120
I, I, I stand or fall with my 
own people, you know, like, like

859
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,080
I give a fuck. 
But beyond that, it's that, 

860
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,200
that, that obvious isn't the way
things are. 

861
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,760
But you know, again, it's, it's 
very much sort of like a fixed 

862
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:39,000
paradigm, you know, and even 
people too, I mean, most, you 

863
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,240
know, I, I'm on some people like
read your King James Bible and 

864
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:46,720
read Aristotle, man. 
Like a lot of, a lot of answers 

865
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,040
to like the big and basic 
questions you can find there in 

866
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,000
and like a lot of people are 
natural slaves. 

867
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,960
And, you know, like, that's, 
that's just like their outlook 

868
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,720
and they're not, they're not 
capable of understanding 

869
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,640
political phenomenon. 
So I'm like a matter of like 

870
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,240
intelligence, man. 
Like I run into people all the 

871
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:04,800
time. 
I guarantee you that like, if we

872
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,160
talk an IQ test, they'd probably
like smoke me on like an IQ 

873
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,680
test. 
And like, I'm not like really 

874
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,760
good at math, you know, like I 
can't, I can't like engineer a 

875
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,560
fucking bridge or, or something.
And I can like, I can take like 

876
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,320
engines apart and I know how 
they go back together. 

877
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,840
But that's like about the extent
of like my engineer. 

878
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,600
It's not a question of like 
intelligence or whatever. 

879
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,200
It's like you can do what you 
can't. 

880
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:32,000
And it's, it's, it's, it's like,
well, I, it's a spiritual 

881
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,720
quality almost, I mean 
spiritual, like literally like 

882
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,680
your immortal soul. 
I mean, it's like a sum total, 

883
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,720
like intangibles that make up 
like how your mind like like 

884
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:46,640
processes and indexes 
information, you know? 

885
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960
And like if you're, if you, if 
you basically like the mindset 

886
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,600
of like a natural slave, it's 
kind of always awaiting orders, 

887
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,680
always looking for some kind of 
figure and authority, always 

888
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,600
looking to take his cues from 
like some like social superior. 

889
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,960
Like you're not going to be able
to understand this if it's going

890
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:02,600
to be totally alien to you. 
You know, it'd be like trying to

891
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,600
teach. 
Maybe it'd be like trying to 

892
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,600
teach somebody who can't read, 
like complex linguistics or 

893
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,120
something. 
Yeah, I mean, this is this whole

894
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,560
woke thing that's was taking 
over the narrative for the last 

895
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,760
10 years. 
Both pro woke, anti woke, all 

896
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,320
that stuff. 
They're just retreading these 

897
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,360
ideas that aren't their ideas. 
They're they're fucking parrots.

898
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,520
And you know, at first you when 
you're dealing with something 

899
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,440
that's a new and novel and new, 
it can seem like very scary and 

900
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,520
weird, especially how it spread.
But we're we're seeing the ends,

901
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,880
the ends of it now because it's 
again, they're just, they're 

902
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,560
trying to retread retreads to 
the point where no one's no 

903
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,680
one's buying this, not because 
they're actually ideologically 

904
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,240
against it. 
They're fucking bored. 

905
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,520
No, nobody actually believes in 
that stuff. 

906
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,080
I mean, I make that It's like, 
OK, yeah, I realize we go to 

907
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,440
like any town USA, you'll find 
like dipshit normies who like 

908
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,760
say they believe in that stuff. 
But these these people would 

909
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,240
like if it was like 1940 and 
like Comrade Stalin was the 

910
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,160
boss, they'd like say they were 
communists and like they lived 

911
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,080
in, if they lived under like 
Napoleon's reign, They, they 

912
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,960
they'd like say they love 
Napoleon. 

913
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,400
Like they those are like it's 
victories. 

914
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,840
They, they don't actually 
believe in that stuff. 

915
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,360
Like it's. 
Tables Green grocer. 

916
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Yeah, yeah. 
And I mean, it's like especially

917
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,720
I know that like a lot of kind 
of, I know, I know like Normie 

918
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:28,520
Khan's always talking about the 
quote Yale and jail coalition. 

919
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,440
And yeah, there is there's 
nothing worse than some Ivy 

920
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,680
League fuck wad who like 
lionizes like lump and pros or 

921
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,280
something. 
Like there's some like noble 

922
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,600
element that's really fucked up.
However, like street people and 

923
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,120
rich people, they're both 
basically realistic, you know, 

924
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,440
like the former are like 
ignorant and often like kind of 

925
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,920
feral. 
Like the latter are like naive 

926
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,760
and don't really understand like
real life that most as most 

927
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,440
people live it. 
But they, they, they understand 

928
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,000
that like man is basically not 
nice. 

929
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,400
Like they understand that 
people's motivations generally, 

930
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,040
particularly ambitious people, 
you know, are selfish. 

931
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,840
They understand that like 
politics is like a lot of cap 

932
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,160
and bullshit It it's kind of 
like the it's kind of like the 

933
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,760
sensible center that are are are
like most guilty, like slave 

934
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,720
thing, you know, like the lump 
bands are like dumb guys. 

935
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,840
They they probably better off 
enslaved, but they've got like, 

936
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,960
but they have like a more 
realistic attitude, you know, 

937
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,200
and plus you've got to like look
at what people do, man, like not

938
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,880
what they say. 
Like I, I know basically I, I go

939
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,120
a lot of different places, man. 
Like I'm not saying like I'm so 

940
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,800
great or I'm some like great 
ambassador of like my race or 

941
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,280
something, but I'm around non 
white people constantly because 

942
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,040
they outnumber me 1000 to one 
here. 

943
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,600
And also like I have to be 
around them if I'm going to like

944
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,480
do things I need to do like in 
my life. 

945
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,000
But like, sometimes like I seek 
them out, just like observe them

946
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:05,080
and like what they're doing, you
know, and I never see like other

947
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,480
white people doing that. 
And like these people are 

948
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,160
supposedly like Uber woke and 
like hate my guts. 

949
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,960
They're like afraid to leave 
their house and like they avoid 

950
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,680
darkies. 
Like, you know, they they avoid 

951
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,200
them as much as they can, man. 
It's like, obviously they don't 

952
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,120
think that, you know, I mean, if
they did, they just like move to

953
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,080
the hood. 
Like wouldn't they like it's 

954
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,800
everybody's identical and 
there's nothing fucked up about 

955
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,440
the hood, so you just go live 
there. 

956
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,680
But they don't man, you know, 
and they're the ones, it's just 

957
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,840
like the motherfuckers who like,
I, I called some of these people

958
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,640
out on it during the summer of 
Floyd. 

959
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,400
I'm like, look, man, I'm like, 
you're the ones who call the 

960
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,840
police. 
I don't like my friends don't. 

961
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,920
It's like you fuckers do. 
They're here for you. 

962
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,040
It's a you call the police when 
you see people like us, just 

963
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,520
because you're Dicks, you know, 
it's like you want to you want 

964
00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:59,960
to defund the police. 
Go ahead, man. 

965
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,160
It's not going to fuck up my 
program if this is your shit. 

966
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,880
You know, they don't want to 
defund the police. 

967
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,720
They call the police if fucking 
they somebody looks at him 

968
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:13,440
longer than three seconds. 
You know, it's all you can't, 

969
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,880
you can't go on with people say 
I every, everybody tells you 

970
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:23,040
he's like a hero and A and a 
great guy and, and you know, 

971
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,880
some kind of bad ass like 
people. 

972
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Everything people say basically 
is bullshit with the exception 

973
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,040
man of like, I'd like to think I
basically always honest with 

974
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,080
people. 
You know, I mean, there's times 

975
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,240
I won't say anything and don't 
disclose certain things. 

976
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:38,360
I don't lie to people when I 
don't pretend like I'm better 

977
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,840
than anybody, But I mean, most 
people are full of shit, man. 

978
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,280
We're supposed to take at face 
value. 

979
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,720
So you Oh, I, I believe in total
racial equality and you know, 

980
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,760
like white privilege is a thing.
Like I said some fucking guy who

981
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,960
like lives in like the whitest 
hood he can afford like you know

982
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,480
lives his life basically like 
avoid non white people like the 

983
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,360
guy doesn't believe that shit he
doesn't give a fuck and come on.

984
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Yeah, and on the, and on the 
counterpoint to it, you have a 

985
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,840
lot of people who are rah, rah 
rawing ethnostatism. 

986
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,320
And I'm like, OK, fine. 
Like show me your plans. 

987
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,480
I'm I'm open to, to anyone 
showing me something that is 

988
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,680
where's your OPSEC? 
Well, what's, how are you? 

989
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,120
How are you producing this? 
Like, what's your plan? 

990
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,720
Well, it's. 
Also too like it's. 

991
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,320
It's always like make someone 
else do it and it's like, I'm 

992
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,240
not doing your thing for you, 
man. 

993
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,840
Like what do you well, I'm 
supposed to put my neck on on 

994
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,200
the line. 
I'm supposed to invest all my 

995
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,400
time and energy and all this 
stuff to make your little plan 

996
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,880
work. 
Why the fuck am I doing that 

997
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,480
when you well. 
It's also it's, it's retrograde 

998
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,040
thinking, man. 
Like, I mean, you people should 

999
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,640
be thinking at community level 
anyway, because that's what 

1000
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,320
life's about. 
And at the end of the day, 

1001
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,520
you've got to, you do have to 
think about your, your life and 

1002
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,240
the people you love and people 
in your orbit, you know, you got

1003
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:52,240
to give that priority. 
But it's also like the 

1004
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,120
Westphalian state, people think 
they have their mind. 

1005
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,320
They think that like this 
basically has existed for like 

1006
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,720
40,000 years or something. 
Like it's not, it's not some 

1007
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:03,240
permanent thing. 
Like it's basically something 

1008
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:07,080
that all told, you know, it's 
probably got like a couple 100, 

1009
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,320
like the vestiges of it'll like 
endure another couple 100 years.

1010
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,640
But it's already dying actively.
It's been dying for, you know, 

1011
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,160
for for a century and a half 
anyway. 

1012
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,880
Like it's not it, it's, there's 
nothing like perennial about it,

1013
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,680
you know? 
And it's, it's this idea that, 

1014
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,240
you know, there's a yeah, the 
way that like the natural 

1015
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,040
political order is, you know, 
having like a state boundary 

1016
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,360
like around here, like everybody
speaks the same language and 

1017
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,440
like indexes with the same sect.
I mean, yeah, obviously like the

1018
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,320
basic humanitarianism is ethnos 
and you need like homogeneity 

1019
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,680
there. 
But it's not what I'm talking 

1020
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,120
about. 
Like I'm talking about like the 

1021
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,080
national state, like a 
constitutional Federated 

1022
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,040
government, like that, that 
that's basically, you know, a 

1023
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,120
late modern concept that's 
becoming obsolete, you know? 

1024
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,160
So my producers just walked in 
the room, so we should look to 

1025
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,720
wrap this up. 
One super chat from TK Thank you

1026
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,640
for $10. 
Here's an interesting question 

1027
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,480
to throw to you, Thomas, before 
we say goodbye. 

1028
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,840
Great to see GOAT T777. 
Haven't been catching things 

1029
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,480
live because I'm doing things 
doing IRL stuff. 

1030
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,880
Any advice to us rootless 
Drifters on how to find a 

1031
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,080
community? 
I'm tired of being a stranger 

1032
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,040
and a mercenary. 
Yeah, man, you should make 

1033
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,040
yourself approachable. 
I mean, when I go, when I go to 

1034
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,520
these places, you know, where 
like our people congregate and 

1035
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,960
where I'm planning to start, you
know, like living a good part of

1036
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,760
the year. 
If you want to come with me, you

1037
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,240
can. 
I mean, you got to you got to 

1038
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,320
like introduce your like I said,
I'm not trying to like G check 

1039
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,040
people, but this doesn't happen 
overnight, man. 

1040
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,960
Anybody who wants to like I 
basically every day on one of my

1041
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,000
platforms, I like literally take
my phone and like show you where

1042
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,240
I'm going. 
And if you want to approach me 

1043
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,240
on the street or it like shits 
in, that's totally fine. 

1044
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,160
But you've got to do things like
that, you know, and if we get 

1045
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,000
crumbled with each other and I 
introduce you, the fellows and 

1046
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,560
the girls and they like you, 
well, great. 

1047
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,400
But that's how things. 
I mean, that's, that's human 

1048
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,360
life, you know, but I'm not 
trying to like suggest your 

1049
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,040
basic or something or be 
pedantic or something, but. 

1050
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,760
No, but you've. 
Got to, you've got to be out 

1051
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,120
there and yeah, like index of 
people, man, you know, like and,

1052
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,280
and, and reach out to them and 
they will and they will respond,

1053
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,360
man. 
Like, if I can do it, I mean, 

1054
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,480
I'm generally good at talking to
people and like, I never had in 

1055
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,760
superficial terms, I never had 
problems making friends. 

1056
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,240
But I mean, let's be honest, 
man, I'm kind of like a strange 

1057
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,720
guy, OK, It's not like a Mr. 
fucking Social. 

1058
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,440
If I can do it, anybody can, 
man, you know, like it doesn't 

1059
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,720
take. 
You don't have to have some like

1060
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,560
great finesse or something, you 
know, I mean, plus it's natural 

1061
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,280
like people, they can't turn an 
impulse to something people 

1062
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,760
need. 
They you know, otherwise they 

1063
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,600
die and they they fall into 
despair and become. 

1064
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,000
And and they die. 
So I mean, it's, it's a Basic 

1065
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,600
Instinct, you know, and that's 
why people are, are, are, will 

1066
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,280
respond, man, if you want an 
index with them. 

1067
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,480
And at least people have been 
striking this as a me like I'm 

1068
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,800
making it easy, you know, Yeah, 
it's, but a lot of this is in 

1069
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,960
like God's hands. 
A lot of it just like happened. 

1070
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,480
But yeah, just don't, don't, 
don't be shy, man. 

1071
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,560
Put yourself out there. 
Yeah, be useful to find a use. 

1072
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,320
You know, one of the things I 
was kind of thinking about this 

1073
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,800
the other day, two of the people
I was drawn to almost 

1074
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,920
immediately, it was yourself and
Tommy Salmons. 

1075
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,440
Because I recognize there's some
sort of unsaid kinship. 

1076
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,320
One of the things that kind of 
defined my life for the last 40 

1077
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,680
odd years was I always felt like
a misfit that, you know, I was 

1078
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,880
always just it was enough of 
something but not enough, but 

1079
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,000
not all the way in. 
Like I could have, you know, I 

1080
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,520
just didn't jive with middle 
management, even though I could 

1081
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,520
be really good at things or, you
know, I I had opportunities to 

1082
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,840
do a life of crime or there's a 
whole bunch of other things in 

1083
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,440
my in my back history where if I
had just really kind of fit in, 

1084
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,440
things would've been much 
different. 

1085
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,600
But I never fit in. 
I never felt really comfortable 

1086
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,440
in a lot of in a lot of those 
groups because eventually you 

1087
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,280
always reach someone. 
You're like, now you're just 

1088
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,920
irritated me. 
Now you're just fucking. 

1089
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,240
Pissed. 
It's also it's I mean, it's like

1090
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,160
geography of nowhere stuff. 
And I'm lucky. 

1091
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,400
On the one hand, Chicago was 
like really there's some pretty 

1092
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,920
like macabre stuff. 
This is not an easy place to 

1093
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,320
live. 
But on the other hand, like 

1094
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,360
people, including me, are 
actually from here. 

1095
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,880
I don't have like deep ass roots
here. 

1096
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,200
Like my folks are from Los 
Angeles, but you know, I am from

1097
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,760
here. 
I, I know my neighbors, you 

1098
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,880
know, there's like a real, 
there's like a, there's like a 

1099
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,960
deep culture here and people 
like jealously protected, you 

1100
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,520
know, and it's not just like, 
it's not just like some like 

1101
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,040
nowhere town in like Colorado, 
nobody's actually from. 

1102
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,320
And it's like, well, you know, 
the only church around, just 

1103
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,800
like local mega church. 
It's only chain restaurants. 

1104
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,800
And like, even even the randos 
who you, who might be your 

1105
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,920
neighbors, like after a few 
years, they move away in new 

1106
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,480
randos move in like you can't, 
you can't build a community out 

1107
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,720
of that. 
But you know, like I said, 

1108
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,200
social media, one thing is 
useful for people spend like too

1109
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,480
much time on it and and they 
expect too much out of it. 

1110
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,480
But it does allow you to like 
shout out information and like 

1111
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,560
fly a flag, quite literally. 
And you know, you it does. 

1112
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,440
It does allow you to like index 
with people like we're there is 

1113
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:45,480
a communitarian a communitarian 
bases possible. 

1114
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,880
But the yeah, I'm going to I'm 
going to raise up in a minute 

1115
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,400
because frankly, I got to 
stretch my legs. 

1116
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,400
I'm I'm dealing with some 
inflammation. 

1117
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Not to be like a lame old person
complaining about his aches, but

1118
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:58,800
yeah, it is I. 
Got it. 

1119
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,360
I got it in my feet and have 
been waylaid for the last like 

1120
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,040
week and a half because of it. 
I'm walking around with a cane 

1121
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,360
so I I understand man. 
Yeah, no, I mean, it's fine. 

1122
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,600
I it's just. 
Yeah. 

1123
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,320
No, but we should. 
Yeah, for sure. 

1124
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,600
Again, Thomas, thank you so much
man. 

1125
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,640
Oh, no, thanks for inviting me, 
man. 

1126
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:24,040
I appreciate the, I appreciate 
the your hospitality always. 

1127
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,040
It's, it's, it's all I can give,
but it's, it's, it's maybe not 

1128
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,200
much, but it's, it's what I got.
Maybe what we'll do, I don't 

1129
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,400
know. 
I'll see how you rock with this.

1130
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,280
But I got some upcoming 
projects. 

1131
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,600
But maybe I, I would like to get
you on maybe again, when things 

1132
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,960
calm down and everything to talk
about Hegelianism. 

1133
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,680
I've been, I've been dining on 
on, on Kirkegaard quite a bit 

1134
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,840
right now. 
But I think, you know, we can 

1135
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,760
branch out from some of the 
nitty gritty into more 

1136
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,440
conceptual basis stuff for, for 
people to kind of wrap their 

1137
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,760
heads around. 
Because, you know, just to get 

1138
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,800
back to where you're saying 
this, this political stuff's not

1139
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,440
for everybody. 
That doesn't mean you can't be 

1140
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,320
one part of the 1% if you just 
can't. 

1141
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,840
If you're not political, you 
don't want to be political. 

1142
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,120
In fact, I hope, I hope to live 
in a day when when, when 

1143
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,200
politics gets fucking boring and
useless again. 

1144
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:25,000
But but that being said, it's 
it's it's you do have to 

1145
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,720
challenge yourself conceptually 
on some level to kind of see 

1146
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,280
things as they are, not just as 
you want them to be. 

1147
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,480
And yeah, we can. 
Yeah, we can do that man. 

1148
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,560
Just September 1st or after 
would probably be best. 

1149
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:43,960
Like, next week is convention 
week, and then I got to try, I 

1150
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,920
got to try to West Virginia at 
the end of this month. 

1151
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,760
And then that's my last. 
I don't have to, like, travel 

1152
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,960
for a minute after that. 
So yeah, like September 1st, 

1153
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,440
man. 
We can talk about Hegel on a 

1154
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,840
dedicated dreamer or something 
if you want. 

1155
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,720
All right, ladies and gentlemen,
Madame, Mr. Thank you again for 

1156
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,000
tuning in. 
Like, subscribe, share, do all 

1157
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,760
the things. 
Please do go over to Thomas's 

1158
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,520
stuff and consume. 
Show your love and supports and 

1159
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,080
we will talk to you again very, 
very soon. 

1160
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Just hang on, Tom, 
the.