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At the end of the name at the end of the day is the name of
the show. I'm your host, Jason Maranchuk,
and with me today is Metaprime, the TV head man himself.
Hi Meta. Hey, Jason, thanks for having me
on. You know other things when you
run two shows a week is that sometimes you get confused at
which show you're on. I was almost like, welcome back
to meet the biggest. Oh shit, no, oops, cut that out.
How you doing man? Yeah, I'm doing great.
Weather's been beautiful the last couple of days and just
been obviously just one crazy event after another in, you
know, the national discourse. So, you know, I'm, I'm high on
life right now. Right.
I was just saying to you before we started, we pressed record
that I don't know how it how it is for you, but the last few
years I've had a few instances where I honestly thought maybe
I'm going crazy in the last 24 hours is kind of bearing that
out. I'm having a Deja vu from 2020,
mostly just cause of the reaction of, of the debates.
If people don't know what we're talking about or if this is part
of the future for you. Yesterday was the Biden versus
Trump debate on CNN and, and Biden looked every bit of
decrepit, dead, dead ass Biden and the Democrats left media.
Everyone else is finally freaking out about this.
And it's crazy because this is, I've been saying this and
everyone I know has been saying this for like what, five years
now and they're just finally cluing in, publicly cluing in at
least. So it's, it just feels weird to,
to have them finally say the things that we've been saying
for a long time. And, and I, I don't know if it's
genuine or if it's a grift or it's a psyop or they're, they're
like, I don't know anymore. I have no freaking idea.
What say you? Yeah.
Well, I mean, I think this is a very broad pattern that we're
going to see more and more of is people kind of coming around to
things that have been said in the sphere for a very long time.
You know, part of the reason that we kind of connected and
things to chat about is just, you know, all the human
biodiversity and fall of Western civilization talking points that
have been getting more and more popular.
But I think basically what people are coming around and
realizing, and especially at kind of the, you know, media
talking head level is it's, you know, very easy to see now, but
that Trump is going to win. And, you know, how do they
position themselves for that, right, Because I, I think what
they don't want to do is, you know, full throatedly adorse
Biden, you know, continue to gaslight the public on, oh, he's
so sharp. He's still with it and then
going to go down with the ship. And so, you know, my kind of
take right now is I think a lot of people are positioning
themselves such that when he does fail, you know, he can kind
of take the blame for all of the different problems, you know,
and then they can try to refresh on the back end of this.
Yeah, he's definitely the scapegoat du jour because they
have no one else to scapegoat. They can't put us on Kamala.
It'll be I mean, now I'm seeing all the speculative reports of
saying they're going to put in what's his nuts?
What's the guy from from California?
Gavin Newsom. Newsom.
And I'm like, this has gone from like crazy to insane.
Like, what do you think? What are you thinking?
Like, how could you? What?
How does?
I don't even know how they would even try to do that.
Yeah. I mean it's, it's interesting.
So I put out a thread today that kind of details, you know, my
take on this, because I think, you know, this is just one
other, you know, big manifestation of kind of these
trends that we're seeing. And, you know, clearly all the
talking heads on CNN and all the other news channels last night
were completely throwing Biden under the bus.
They're like, oh, he's clearly senile.
Democratic Democrats are in panic.
You know, what are we going to do here?
And I think, you know, there's a few reasons they're doing that,
but one of them is it does lay the groundwork that if they do
want to make a, a hard pivot into a different candidate like
Newsom, they can do that. I, I think the problem that
they're going to have there is, you know, even the, the darlings
of the left are like, they know the ship is sinking.
They know that the, you know, there's no chance of, you know,
winning this, this next election.
And so they, they don't want to be the person going in.
I saw a tweet earlier today that either they've confirmed the
Biden's going to do a second debate and he's still going to
run. So I don't, you know, who knows
if that's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was
the case because I think that they have to basically run him
so he can be the the sacrificial chicken here.
Yeah, I hardly doubt there there'll be another debate.
I mean, if I was Trump, I would even be like, no, not doing that
because that's just elder to abuse.
He can get away with saying it openly, like, no, I'm not doing
that. Yeah, it was pretty stunning
watching it. I was watching the Alex Jones
feed, which is the only way to watch that, by the way, 'cause
every time Joe Biden showed up on the screen, you had Alex
Jones yelling at, you know, pedo.
He's a pedo, takes, takes showers with his, with his
daughter. And just like, this was
fantastic. So, yeah.
OK, so the, the, the general thing I called you on to talk
about, and this kind of all relates in some weird ways.
Is that the dissident right or the online right or whatever
whatever term you want to call it, is starting to go
mainstream. This kind of gets into one of my
pet theories I call the Jason's apple pie prediction.
That's certainly around the neotrans, which would be how the
woke gets transformed into something vaguely right wing and
sort of recreating some Bush Christianity.
And I think that movement will be around with us for quite some
time, at least the next 30 to 40 years.
Because one of the interesting things that happened, I was
researching this for something else and I stumbled upon an old
Charlie Rose interview or a round table.
And it was with Christopher Hitchens and Miami, Miami Wolf
and two other feminists, academic feminists who I don't
know, I can't remember the names.
And this was from 1995, I believe, 95 or 96.
And everything out of their mouths was what we've been
living under for the last 10 years.
Yeah, you know, and patriarchy. Get rid of me.
Get rid of sort of, oh, shoot, this is really early in the
morning, so awards sometimes fail me.
Get rid of. Anyways, it's it was just like
talking progressive. Well, talking point after
talking point after talking point and you realize that.
So this has been percolating or had been percolating for what,
30 odd years until it hit the main.
So I think this is what's going to happen with the Dr. once it
hits the main, it'll be around for quite some time.
And that's going to feel weird for a lot of us who've been
talking about this stuff for, you know, lost.
I've, I've been doing it for like what, 3-4 years now?
There's others been, we've been doing it for even longer.
And then that gets into some of your personal hubbub because you
just kind of stepped in a in a hornet's nest of shit about a
month ago. So anyways, that's enough of me
rambling. There's a setup kind of let walk
us back to where you get into the trouble with Pariah the doll
and all that stuff and just throw people listening.
We're going to be throwing out some names that if you don't,
you don't know who we're talking about.
I don't blame you and God, God bless you.
I don't know if this is the rabbit hole you want to go down.
It's full of razor blades and and crack, crack pipes.
So wear some PPE and get ready. We'll do our we'll do our best.
You just, you just keep talking, man.
And I'll, I'll throw in like the, the Normie Khan questions
or like who the fuck is that? Whatever I think is appropriate.
Go ahead. Yeah, no, sounds good, you know,
and, and I think to I like to point people to my content
because a lot of times when I write, I try to make stuff
comprehensively comprehensive and digestible.
So if you go to my, my Twitter profile, my ex profile, go to my
highlights tab, the thread that I wrote on this, that kind of
kicked a lot of this off was called the post left grift.
And it's definitely worth checking out.
But basically to, to kind of start at the beginning of the
story, you know, I, I got on like mid 2021 right around, you
know, the pandemic was, was kind of, you know, in full swing at
this point. And I had a was out at the bar
with a few friends, you know, kind of being flagrantly
disregarding a lot of the, you know, dumb lockdown rules.
And they were telling me, oh, you got to check out Twitter,
you know, you got to, you know, follow some of these accounts.
This is interesting conversation going on.
So I got on, you know, followed some of the some of the bigger
accounts in the distant right. And what I quickly noticed was
there's a large lack of kind of orientation guide, maybe you'd
say of, you know, hey, if you're a new Anon, you're waking up to
this stuff, especially around the pandemic, I think a lot of
people were kind of having their eyes open.
You know, how do you find, you know, a healthy footing, right?
Because this is a big thing for me.
My own awakening experience was, was pretty jarring.
And it was it was not very done very gracefully.
You know, I burned a few bit bridges with friends.
I, you know, dove down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole
and, you know, but to me on the other side of that, what you,
what you very quickly realize is doesn't really matter if lizard
people are running the government or, you know, the,
the Anunnaki or, you know, flipping around the timelines or
whatever you want to, you know, think at the at the bottom of
that rabbit hole, you still got to live a good life.
You got to have good family relationships, you got to have a
good career. And, you know, if you do want to
move the needle, it's it's going to be done kind of at a local
level, you know, building relationships with people, you
know, trying to provide a good service to community, that kind
of stuff. And, you know, looking around at
a lot of the other content, I didn't really see a lot of
people with that message. And so that's kind of been my
focus from the beginning. To that end, I've been doing a
lot of networking, building relationships with people, you
know, having a ton of people on the podcast promoting projects
that I thought were were good as far as, you know, the big thing
that I think we should be striving for, I call it the
parallel movement, right? So creating alternative system
structures, networks, groups, all that kind of stuff.
And you know, so I'd gotten pretty kind of tied in with the
with the dissident, right? A lot of these figures, you
know, I was going to, you know, events in New York City and
meeting people and it was kind of like three or four months
ago, I started to kind of catch on to this group.
And, you know, terminology around this is still being
developed. But we'll kind of call them the
post left or based progressives, right?
These these people who kind of existed in the the edgy
progressive liberal sphere and who they've kind of started
floating in towards the distant right.
And you can think of these people, you know, Pride, the
doll being one of them, an MTF tranny who, you know, is
drifting off like Bronze Age mindset, Hestia cigarettes, you
know, saying, you know, inflammatory racist language as
a way to kind of be edgy and, and interesting.
And to me, like, I think it's very dangerous that these people
are coming into the sphere because they're not being
converted on 1st principles, right?
They're not here because they look at the world and they say,
oh, you know, we need to aspire to things that are virtuous and
beautiful and we need to take on the responsibility of, you know,
rebuilding, You know, sorry if, if I, if I drop out for a
second, it's, it's my, my computer has this like brownout
issue, but you know, it'll come right back in.
But so these, these people, you know, they don't have these
first principles. And I think that's kind of
dangerous if you bring them in and you see them as allies and
you kind of trust them as having a spot in kind of influencing
the discourse because we've seen time and time again, these
people will bring in these progressive values, these, you
know, transhumanist. Sorry about that.
Yeah, this transhumanist agenda stuff.
And, you know, that's ultimately not where we want to go.
And so catching on to, you know, Red Scare, Anna Casudia and the
other people that they're associated with, like Brianna Wu
and, you know, Richard Hanania and, and a lot of these figures,
that was kind of my, they drew my initial ire, right.
And, you know, and so I'd started to kind of, you know,
become aware of their accounts, become aware of what they were
saying. They were saying a lot of these,
you know, and I point this out in the recent article that I
wrote on my sub stack. Suffering from success, how the
distant right was not ready to win the culture war.
Like we're, we're winning in that human biodiversity and
destruction of Western civilization talking points are
getting popular. And I and I do believe, you
know, it was inevitable, right? The, the, the pendulum was
destined to swing back. You know, these things are true,
right? Races are different.
Western civilization is very superior, you know,
civilizational construction and, you know, all kind of mainstream
aggression against, you know, white people and white and
Western civilization, you know, is it it was inevitable that
people would get frustrated by that and push back.
But I also think it's, you know, to the credit of a lot of, you
know, nameless anonymous accounts who have been, you
know, making this stuff interesting through memes and
mogging and creating content and all this kind of stuff.
But you know, back at the beginning, there was a lot of
risk in taking on these talking points because if you, you know,
if you, if you said this, you, you were liable to get cancelled
if they could associate it with the, you know, like a your real
life name. And you know, you lose your job
and be ostracized by your community, all this kind of
stuff. You know, now we're reaching a
point where, you know, like Bronze Age Shorty gets kicked
out of her company by I forget she was working for like Stripe
or something like that because of some, you know, you know,
tranny quote or tranny tweet that she, she put out.
And now you have Elon Musk who's, you know, backing her
legal team and fight against Stripe, right?
Like it's, it's a very interesting shift.
And, you know, don't get me wrong, like I'm really happy
about this. I think a lot of people were
like, why are you, you know, so worried about this?
It's like, it's not so much that I don't like that these ideas
are going viral. It's, you know, that's great.
And it's necessary for a lot of people to kind of come around.
It's just the fact that this is going to bring a lot of people
into the scene who they're not, they're not here for the right
reasons. They're here because we've this
the, you know, the Anon community, the dissident, right,
all the alternate, right, However you want to, you know,
kind of think of that coalition has done a great job of making
it cool, making it popular. And now there's people who,
because the risk is lower and there's potential to to grift
and clout chase, they're going to come in here for those
reasons, right? But they're not going to have
those fundamental first principles and.
Yeah, the the danger I see with it is it's not so much that the
ideas will go mainstream. What what ends up happening as
soon as any idea goes mainstream and it starts to attract a
general audience. Is that you?
It's going to get dumbed down. It's going to get watered down.
It's going to get it's going to get, you know, memetically taken
out of your hands. So that to me doesn't bother me
so much more. It's more that I think people
are so obsessed with winning. That's what you always see is
winning this, winning that we're going to win.
But just kind of like in Ukraine, the the win conditions
are either I'll defined, not defined at all or completely
nuts. And I think that this is a
humongous degree of people. And this is kind of goes in with
the neotrod prediction, which will encompass both the left and
the right and create this new center.
But the what's incumbent with that in that prediction is that
it's going to allow all the people who are essentially just
shit libs, but who are anti woke and have made an entire career
out of being anti woke a way to offload, right, Because woke ISM
will be done. It'll be somehow officially
given a death date, you know, yay.
And we won and Disney doesn't do woke movies anymore and you
know, all that kind of stuff. But all those the, the, but the,
the fundamental principles of woke won't go away because it
can't. It's like it's stuck in
liberalism. Liberalism kind of just just
creates it. It can transfer it, it can, it
can give it a new sort of massage, but you can't really
unliberalized liberalism. It's the part of the problem of
trying to find solutions for liberal problems with within
liberalism doesn't work Like this is a big component to me
saying I want to break people's frames.
I want to break my own frame because you have to be able to
see outside of it to understand what it is and to look for
solutions that maybe don't comport to strict.
Liberal democracy or you know, fascism, communism, all these
things are all, they're all offshoots of liberalism.
So just put that, put that all into context.
I think as more and more common people get on boarded to these
ideas and like you said, the risk is eliminated or reduced,
what you're going to get is this new college industry which
people like us will have to then use a, a great degree of
discernment to not get sucked into cause the temptations will
be real. And the other kind of crappy
thing, and the people have to get ready for this too, is that
once that happens, then anyone with principles will become the
new scapegoat for that, for that group, right?
They'll, they'll still be against the far right.
It'll just be the new far right won't be people talking about
Ebola. It'll be, you know, Orthodox
Christians, for example, or anyone who's like, hey, you
know, maybe don't let these people in.
And then that you'll be the worst of the worst.
You'll be the new scapegoat. You'll be the new outer fringe
that needs to be exposed, needs to be kicked out of the main
party. I just think people need to get
ready for that. Yeah, no, I I think you're
absolutely right. I mean, there's a lot of ground
to cover. And so, but kind of jumping
ahead to the to the point that you're making, like one of the
evil villains of this story is this male to female transsexual
named Brianna Wu. And for those of you who don't
know who Brianna Wu is, he is a, he was very prominent during
Gamergate. He he came out very aggressively
against gamers, was able to, I think lobby Twitter at the time
to do a bunch of like censorship stuff.
Not a good person. Very much not someone who is
literally the trans agenda personified in that.
I remember there's these leaked DMS for, you know, messages from
a discord chat with Brianna Wu and a few other of his
compatriots. And he was basically admonishing
the, the some of the other trannies because they were going
too hard on the timeline. And he was like, look, like this
isn't the time for us to go, you know, hard on the timeline if we
want, we want to play the long game.
And so we have to, you know, kind of like soften what we're
talking about now and then and then we can go hard later,
right? So this person like it should be
very clear to anyone with, you know, you know, two cents to rub
together that this person is a complete enemy and very
antithetical to everything that kind of exists in the space.
I'm sorry again about the the Browning out, but you know, so
the because but they're somehow getting platformed.
They're getting platformed by people like Richard Hania.
They're getting platformed. I think Brianna Wu and Lawrence
Southern were yuking it up on the timeline not so long ago,
right. It's like.
Just to just jump in for a second, did you know that
Brianna Ru ran for Senate or some, some sort of political
seat got got got destroyed in the in that running?
I think it was either during that running or right before or
right after, whatever. Go Google Brianna Wu and moon
rocks if you want to see the caliber of intelligence we're
dealing with. This is a person who thought
that you could weaponize the moon by just dropping, by
throwing a rock from the moon towards the earth and that would
create AWMD. This is real, by the way.
I'm not. I'm not making that shit up.
So anyways, go ahead. Yeah, no.
And I'd also heard that Brianna would like, forgot to change his
account and like, chat on his own video game or something like
that and tried to use that as like, oh, I'm under attack.
Like, just classic, really horrible.
Just, you know, someone who is clearly trying to do every trick
in the book to, you know, to push their agenda and to, you
know, defend themselves and stuff like this.
This is not a smart or, you know, good person by any stretch
of the imagination. But you know, the Brianna was on
a podcast not so long ago and I and I caught a little bit of the
trailer and basically his, you know, his stance is, Oh, well,
you know, the, the radical progressive left has gone too
far. And now they're, you know,
allying with terrorists, these Palestinians, these evil people,
and they're trying to transition your kids.
And that's a bridge too far. That's so unacceptable, right?
And it's like, my dude in Christ, you are a dude who like,
you know, has, you know, mutilated themselves in in favor
of your delusion. Like you are far from the person
who should be, you know, talking about these things.
And you know, but basically what Brianna was trying to do is kind
of exactly what you're talking about where it's they know the
progressive element has gone too far.
Maybe they lost control of it or whatever.
Or, you know, it's it's morphed into this like anti Israeli,
like a digit. It's really funny, but.
That's the that's the big kicker right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little bit of noticing going
on, but So what they want to do is they want to kind of like
sequester that group off. They want to kind of break them
off and say these people have gone too far.
We aren't those people. We don't want to transition
kids. We don't want to ally with
terrorists. We're the good progressives,
right? And the way that they're going
to do this, besides distancing themselves from that, you know,
kind of contingent is cozying up with a lot of these kind of
based ideas, right, saying that they're, you know, like
conservative or, you know, admitting to racial realism and
or, you know, destruction of Western civilization.
There's a another good podcast in the sphere.
I'm sure you've I think I think you're you're friendly with with
Dimes of blood satellite fame. But he had a a great episode not
so long recently, the last episode.
And they had a crimes chat where he has different kind of people
kind of come on, give a little bit of a do like a pre recorded
bit and had some gentleman who was basically making the point
that in Europe they're gearing up for war, right.
And you have all of these, you know, ostentiously conservative
politicians starting to to gain ground.
And a lot of these kind of distant right talking points are
are are, you know, gaining popularity and actually starting
to find footing. They're pushing back against
things like DEI and transitioning and all this kind
of stuff. But really it's it's to woo the
white man so that they can get them back in into the fighting
forces, right? They're starting to actually
show, you know, white guys in Army recruitment ads now.
And, you know, you can kind of make that argument of what this
is, is, well, we know that these are the ideas that are popular.
These are the ideas that will resonate.
And so we can hide behind these ideas and we can kind of
ingratiate ourselves and maintain an audience and do all
of these kinds of things so that down the road, Well, then we can
talk about transitioning your kids.
And then we can talk about, you know, all the other kind of
liberal, progressive, you know, cancerous ideas that we want to
push. And, you know, I, I think my
kind of the dog that I have in this fight, the reason that I
feel so kind of motivated to, you know, burn a little bit of
social capital to kind of point this out is because, you know, I
don't want these people in the space because I know that down
the line they're they're going to betray the kind of the
fundamental rules. I I think that they're going to
create a lot of content that's kind of rage baity around like,
don't you feel bad? And on that you're being
attacked and that you know that, you know that they hate the
white straight guys and you know, all of this kind of stuff.
And it's going to be very hard to get to kind of the, the later
realizations that I, I hope most anons get to, which is, yes, the
world's hard. It's difficult.
It's important to kind of know the truth about human
biodiversity and fall Western civilization talking points.
But the solution is, you know, get fit, build a, you know,
community, build relationships, become competent, find other
guys, you know, start building parallel movement stuff.
And if you don't have kind of that message, that message gets
lost because you know those people that they don't want to
lose followers, they don't want to point you down the path.
They want to kind of pull you into their orbit and have you
consume their content. You know, I worry about the guys
who could make a difference who get stuck in that kind of rage
bait porn layer. Well, and also because and
they'll and they'll get attracted by views, right?
So, you know, suddenly you're in this in this person's orbit and
you're YouTube channel that was struggling along now has hot,
you know, 10,000 views or subscribers and they're always,
oh, I'm famous now, which is some stupid shit.
It's prideful all the way down. The this is a interesting side
quest to go down because it comes right down to the Troons
right now where most of the prominent Troon's are people who
chose this in their adult life, right?
Or let's say close to their adult life.
What's going to be very interesting for the main and for
our little circles is dealing with the kids who are 131415
whatever who were transitioned or put on puberty balkers.
In about four to five years, those people will be adults.
And we're already starting to see some, some reports of that
Detroit D Troon, let's say movement of a lot of kids who
are going to be waking up one day going, Oh my God, you, you
lied to me and you destroyed my body.
And with those kids, that'll become really interesting.
If I know I've talked about the spirit of the vengeful sun being
the new spirit of the age and it being a spirit of complete and
total violence based around betrayal, resentment and
betrayal kind of combined into one zeitgeist.
I think those kids will be the embodiment of it.
Because, you know, it's one thing to to take shots at
Brianna Wu or Chelsea Hand. I want to say Chelsea handling
same thing, but she could she could be assured.
I have no idea in all those, you know, Pride, the doll, those
people. But it'll be a different thing
in a few years when those kids come up through the pipe.
And what do we do with them then?
Because there might be a lot of them who are, who really want to
be allies, who are genuine, who are full of rage and anger and
discuss what that's what's been done to them.
And I think we have to have A at least a talk about it.
I'm not saying we have to open the space for them necessarily,
but there's certainly there has to be a discussion.
Yeah, I mean, you make a really good point, right?
Like, and this is the other thing is a lot of the times when
I, when I try to talk to people about the ideas that are
existing in the space, I don't think of, you know, kind of the
fundamental ideas of what do we call them, the distant ride or
whatever as being subjective. I think of them as like they are
kind of objective things, right? I've, I've written a lot of
content around this. Like there's rules to reality.
There's very clear goal of what you're trying to achieve.
It's flourishing is kind of the goal of life.
And obviously this is there's a lot of nuance to unpack here,
but just to kind of keep things brief, if you have a set of
rules and a clearly defined goal, you have optimal
strategies. You think of chess, right?
There are good moves and bad moves, right?
And so when I think about the kind of, you know, approach that
society we should be taking right now, you know, I think
it's, it's not something that where it's like, oh, you know, I
think the, the liberals are, you know, subjectively wrong right
now. It's like they're objectively
wrong, right? The the trans thing is not real.
It's delusional. And if you are trying to engage
in a lie, right, just you think of like any situation that they
say all the time, right? It's like it's much easier to
tell the truth because if you lie, then you have to remember
all the times that you've lied, right?
And you have to like who you talk to and who you know, who
talks to who. And you have to create all these
alternative realities that start falling apart.
And so I think that's kind of what the, that's exactly what
the what's happening with the progressives is their utopian,
you know, vision of the world. It's not real, it's not
sustainable. It's not grounded in natural
truth. And so it's all falling apart.
And it's only a matter of time before that gets so bad and that
you have this backlash. And I think that's largely what
a lot of this is. And so we are going to see a lot
of people who, you know, for whatever reason, they, you know,
they get spit out by this kind of delusional world that they
lived in. And they'll look for grounding
and meaning and a path back. And certainly for those who have
kind of, you know, tried to transition, that's going to be a
horrific realization. But you know, for the people who
are just kind of ideologically possessed, right?
Like, how do you give them a good and a healthy path back,
right? I definitely believe that if
someone is, you know, earnest in their kind of and insincere and
kind of, you know, their their desire to to kind of like find a
way back that you should open that pathway to them.
But also at the same time, you know, they shouldn't become
leaders of the space. They can shouldn't, you know, be
held up right? Like you have all of these this
this recent Lily E girl, you know, psyop that's going on and
all of this other stuff, right. It's like, you know, those
people aren't your leadership. Those people, you know, maybe
they help people understand things and they become a vehicle
for the message, but you can't confuse them as people who are
going to be able to lead you in the right direction.
Yeah, I that's like, like I said, the discernments we're
going to have to be able to practice discernment and
forgiveness is going to be a, a very top priority or, or a
valuable 2 valuable assets for our groups going forward.
Like, like I said, the temptation will be, you know,
I'm thinking of the meme, you know, which way Western man.
And for the distant right, it'll be like one path gets you on Joe
Rogan and the other path keeps you in like relative obscurity.
And a lot of people are going to veer, you know, Joe Rogan's side
there. There will be a day when when
app is on Joe Rogan or, or something similar, you know, and
and that's just something that people have to pray, get
prepared for that. There's a lot of people who you
know who and you know, especially and to give them
their due, like, you know, BAP and a a even 0 Lovecraft who've
been working at this for a long time and building their own
little followers on Twitter X, you know, walking through that
minefield, which is like, you know, progressive Twitter and
and and social medias. And it'll be hard just to make
an argument against them having a moment in the sun.
But, you know, for the rest of us, the the work doesn't get the
the work doesn't finish once we've won, you know, once these
things become socially acceptable, it's not like that's
where we stop and go, OK, great. You know, now we can just go
back to, to grilling. It's we.
Thomas 77 just posted something out.
And I replied with, you know, winners don't stop running.
Winners keep running past the past the finish line because
that's is what's going to be required and you're going to see
it. I think a natural sort of
selection process started happening in the next, I don't
know, let's give it a 55 to 10 year window.
As these things become more and more acceptable, the, you know,
the the people who are who are in it to really win it are the
people who are thinking generationally and not just what
can I get out of this now? What kind of new book deal can I
get now? No, this is exactly the kind of
the concern that I have around this is you have these people,
you know, in in the article, in the suffering from success
article, I talk about sure we have this influx of external,
you know, take sellers. This is a term that the much the
very infamous basal neobacteracion has has kind of
coined this idea of take sellers.
And basically a take seller is someone who they position
themselves and their opinions in the market based on, you know,
optimization for kind of grift, right?
Like they want to cultivate followers, you know, sell them
whatever they're selling them or or, you know, generate, you
know, a bigger, bigger reputation and reach.
And you have your external take sellers, right?
Like think of like Destiny, the Albany Liberal, the the guy who,
you know, had that open marriage and was a gamer streamer and
then, you know, had that fall apart, right.
You know, it's very much enjoying the the what is it
Shorten Prada or you know. Shorten, Freud.
Yeah. Yeah, Shorten Freud of of all my
enemies suffering right now. But you know, he's been putting
out tweets. In fact, I have this one in the
article. He says decolonization is just
anti white racism dressed up in a stupid academic terms.
I've never in my life seen someone who champions this term
use it to describe an activity of any non western country,
right? And so he put this out in June
9th, right? So that's like, you know, 19
days ago. It's a very recent tweet, right?
And he's coming out against anti white racism, right?
It was crazy, crazy. This guy is a sophist and, you
know, a progressive for the longest time.
He's he's, you know, promoting all of these degenerate values.
And now he's kind of any, I think, you know, at the time
that I screenshot this tweet, it had 11,000 likes and 1.1 million
views, right? So he's clearly drifting in on,
you know, human biodiversity and fall Western civilization
talking points getting popular. On top of that, you know, you
have your internal take sellers, right.
This is this is the thing that I see, right, is you have people
internal in the space and whether or not they are, you
know, endorsing these people directly and sometimes they even
are right, but they're at least making room for them.
They're running cover for them. They're allowing them into the
space because they know this is a way to grow my audience,
right? If I can, you know, go on the
Red Scare podcast, which has, you know, many more viewers
than, you know, other podcasts, and I can get that exposure and
I can, you know, get people to like my content, you know,
that's a win. And whether you see that as kind
of like, you know, trying to share the message and broaden
the reach, or if you see that as like, you know, as I do more of
a compromise of values, you know, it's, it's kind of up to
you to decide. But I think, you know, the big
point that I make in the article, and I really try to
stress this is, you know, I'm kind of at a point now where I'm
not trying to like go after individual people specifically
'cause it's just, you know, you get bogged down and like dumb
Internet drama. And a lot of these guys are
pretty vindictive, but it's pointing out the the broader.
Movements the the patterns, right the strategies that are
you know the shifts that are happening right And if so, if
you make this point of like, hey, human biodiversity and fall
Western civilization talking points are getting popular.
It's becoming more mainstream. You're having the external take
sellers move into the distant right sphere.
You're having these distant right sphere guys is take
sellers internal take sellers. They're moving closer and kind
of tacitly kind of running cover and opening up space for these
people who have these progressive values.
They're all going after, you know, the the desire to go
mainstream, to be part of the winning team to, you know, to
create this kind of next counterculture that that goes
mainstream. Like this new mainstream
counterculture. They all want to get on board
and get a meal ticket, right? They're doing it for the money,
they're doing it for the material success.
And you need to be aware of that because, you know, if you really
want someone who you want to follow, right, you want.
And again, it goes back to this idea of what is really the
message that anons should be getting the smarter people that
player characters who have the potential to help move the
needle, even if it's in a small way.
Well, it's, you know, work out, build relationships, become
successful in your career, network with people, meet in
person and start building stuff stuff on a local level.
And you know, a lot of the guys that I think of when I think of
these take sellers, they're not trying to encourage empowerment
because it's not sexy, right? That's that's another big part
of this. Like it's very easy and sexy for
these guys to say, you know, enjoy like vitalism stuff.
Ultimately a pretty good thing. But if you're just if your
material goals are just the end as opposed means to higher
spiritual goals, then you're kind of losing the plot.
You're not, you're not, you know, actually going after
something that's going to be fulfilling and meaningful.
And that's kind of the worry that I have is you have these
guys, they're materialists. There's a lot of these guys will
come out against religion, spirituality, virtue.
And again, you know, you might say, oh, you know, meta's kind
of like this, you know, LinkedIn style kind of, you know, self
help, you know, very brown content.
It's like, say that all you want, right?
And yeah, my background is being tech recruiter and posting stuff
on LinkedIn. So maybe that's just something I
have to accept and lean into. But you know, it's that message
of, you know, you, you if you don't get stuck in the message,
once you get the message, hang up the phone, right?
The the next step is get busy building, get build it busy
living your life and proving yourself.
And I want to see that more. You know, I think that there's,
there's some of the guys who, you know, like any, any take
seller is going to have to have some amount of truth.
And, you know, there is a lot of promotion of vitalistic ideas,
which I think is it again, it's just as good as the human
biodiversity in the destruction of Western civilization.
It just needs to be in the service of the right end.
And so that's kind of the big thing for me is if, if people
have this awareness of where the incentives of the system are and
you can see who's moving because of material goals versus who's
kind of focusing on that kind of transcendent spiritual message.
You know, I think that should give you a, a good litmus test
for understanding who to who to take seriously and who to
understand as kind of, you know, trying to sell you something.
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We got 15 minutes left, my friend.
What do you want to talk about? You.
It's The floor is yours. The mic is yours.
You can say whatever the hell you fucking want.
Yeah, no, I mean. Take us down a rabbit hole and
take us. Take us wherever you want.
Yeah, I mean, I think we've hit a lot of the points around this.
You know, we kind of jumped in the middle of the story to the
end. So maybe we Tarantino it and go
back a little bit, but you know basically caught on to all of
this happening did what really was the lightning rod that
kicked this off the the thread that I wrote on the post left
grift was because pariah the doll again the MTF tranny.
He put out a tweet that had the the cover of the latest print,
the first print edition of Man's World, and then.
What is what is? What is man's world?
Yeah, so Man's World is the, you know, the brainchild of Roig
Nationalist or Baby Gravy. You know, and for a long time
it's been kind of the premier dissident, right magazine.
A lot of people have written for it, a lot of good content in
there, a lot of promotion of, you know, this raw egg
nationalism, right? It's slonking the eggs vitalist
mindset, that kind of stuff. I mean, a lot of stuff I agree
with. And, you know, that was kind of
the reason that it surprised me so much is because, you know, I,
I considered Man's World and Ren is, is being very kind of
ideologically aligned. And so, you know, having the
tranny in there was really surprising.
I mean, initially I wasn't really trying to go after Man's
World specifically. It was more about, you know, why
are these people grifting into the space to the extent that
they're getting, you know, a centerfold shot of Pariah the
doll in Man's World. You know, and there and there
was some kind of back and forth about like how that happened.
And, you know, again, I won't get too much into the drama,
but, you know, regardless of the details, right, it, it begs the
question of like, you know, clearly the space is getting a
little too close and a little too cozy with these people.
The other thing that I think really was the kicker is, is not
just like a couple days ago, Pariah the Doll is now on the
cover of Christian Science magazine and being kind of
heralded as the figurehead of the new counterculture
conservative movement in New York City.
Like it's, you know, it's like one time, you know, an
aberration 2 times. Like this is starting to make a
pattern, right? Clearly this person is for some
reason being held up as a figurehead of the movement in in
New York City, the counterculture thing, right?
And you know, same thing with Brianna Wu.
You got Brianna Wu showing up on all these, like ostentiously
conservative or you know. Podcasts, Can I just have a Can
I just have a brief Fuck you, I was right.
Fuck you, I was right. Fuck you, I was right.
Yeah, I've been seeing that one clip that you put out and you're
like, yeah, they're all going to be eating apple pie and wearing
sun dresses. Yep, especially the troons.
The Troons will be really into the sun dresses.
Yeah, and you know, it's it's crazy to me.
You know, my concern is that you, you know, like I, I think
again, if if you want to understand any kind of like
potential of a conspiracy theory, right, you think of like
sealing the election, how would they do it?
Well, they would do it in, you know, Democrat controlled
cities. They would stop the vote count
and they would like plus in a bunch of ballots.
And that's that's exactly what you saw, right, Is like the the
optimal strategy for stealing the election is looks like
there's a lot of evidence that that's what happened, right?
All the bell weather counties like completely Trump.
And so it's it's a huge statistical anomaly that they
would, you know, they would all go for Trump and yet have Biden
win stuff like that, right. And I think it's similar here.
It's like, OK, you know, maybe there's this idea of like, oh,
you know, the just an accidental like insertion of tranny into
dissident right magazine. But, you know, now it's like,
well, if you wanted to kind of, you know, pull in the liberals
and, you know, the progressives and all these people and you
want to make the space a little bit more palatable for them,
right? How would you do that?
Well, you make trannies the figurehead of your movement,
right? Like, you know, and you put them
in ostentiously conservative, conservative content.
And, you know, and so like, that's what we're seeing.
And, you know, it's, it's a little frustrating to the degree
that like some people, you know, I understand, like people don't
want to get dragged into drama. And I think there's a lot of
people who are in the network, they want to kind of have these,
you know, they don't want to upset the balance and the
relationships and all that kind of stuff.
But it's like, OK, what's really going on in the back?
And can we trust these people to, you know, to hold the course
and maintain values? I think that this is evidence to
the contrary. So anyway, that was that was
kind of what went down with that.
And then, you know, since then I've been trying to, you know,
put this more into words. And so the article on suffering
from success kind of highlights this again, you know, you have
Brianna Wu, who I think it's it's a very important figure to
pay attention to because anyone associated with Brianna Wu is is
very clearly not your friend. Like Richard Hanania, I guess,
had Brianna Wu on his podcast not so long ago.
And in preparation for that, Brianna Wu put up a picture of
another trans person, a Hunter Schaeffer and was like, is like,
Oh, I love, you know, if people, you know, sent me cool pictures
of Hunter Schaeffer and then Richard Hani, you know, replies
now that's a woman, you know, and like, these people are not
your friends. They're going to, you know,
bring all this trans stuff in, like Amy.
Also, there was like somebody posted and a lot of these are in
the article that that have a picture of, you know, Baron
Trump and you know how like he's going to start a dynasty and is
one of these Dimes where people is like, yes, we must create a
union between Trump and the doll queen of dime square pariah.
You know, and it's just like holy, you know, Jesus, like, you
know, this is not that's not even possible.
Guys like why are you trying to make this a thing?
So, you know, I think that really that is the IT, you know,
it should be a white pill in the sense that our ideas are
winning. They're getting out there.
It it's it's good, right? But it is it is a huge it needs
to be people need to be aware of, well, this is going to come
with a lot of problems that we weren't, you know, counting on,
right. This is the dog catching the
car. The idea that we, you know, oh,
like, you know, we thought it would be impossible to get, you
know, human biodiversity and fall of Western civilization
talking points out there. Now we've done that.
We have a whole new set of problems.
We need to be able to to kind of be on top of that, pay
attention, you know, adjust accordingly.
And again, I think the way that we identify who's kind of on the
right side, you know, it's difficult when you have a bunch
of banana accounts, right? Because it, I think it really is
action, right? Action is the most pure form
manifestation of belief. And you know, if you are
building something in a network and you're running work events
and doing all these kinds of other things like you're not
advertising that shit on the timeline.
You're not you just you got to be careful about your OPSEC and
all that kind of stuff. And so, you know, it's going to
be people who kind of stay away from, you know, the the
grifters. It's going to be people who
talk, you know, focus a little bit more on virtue and doing
and, and transcending the rage bait porn.
But it's also going to be in Group chats and it's going to be
in real life meetups. And, you know, this is a drum
that I beat and I've been beating for a long time.
There's, you know, a lot of figures in the distant writer,
you know, aggressively warning about, oh, you can't meet up in
person. You, you, you can't compromise
your opsec. You got to be really careful.
These people are going to come after you, you know, basically
from a very early on, I've met a ton of anons.
I've traveled across the country.
I've you know, it's part of the reason that I'm now out in the
Pacific Northwest is the contingent of people who I think
are really building are out here and you know, I've moved to be
around and involved and and doing that kind of stuff.
Like, you know, I I haven't had an issue, right.
I've shown my face to a bunch of people and no one, no one's come
after me or tried dox me yet. But you know, it's I I think
we're more often hiding from our friends than from our enemies.
And I think that if you do want to get involved in the move the
needle, make calculated, you know, risks, you know, make, you
know, have like a, you know, be smart and mindful about it.
But you know, if you're just, yeah, if you're just going to
sit alone, you know, in your, in your kind of your your place and
just tweet online and think you're going to change the world
that way. Or, you know, it's like the you
are of an idea of culture will change us.
You know, just just write articles, Bros like, yeah,
that'll, that'll solve everything.
I, I, I just, I can't buy that. I think it's nonsense.
And you know, I, I would encourage people to, you know,
you know, the first step is getting able, sorry, first step
getting online, finding your people.
Next step is networking and getting involved in the offline
sphere. And yeah, I'd want to see more
people do that. I would add to that in terms of
you have to kind of figure out what your, I'll use the word
purpose or your talent OR your or your stack is, you know, in
terms of Curtis Jarvan or people like that, they're, they can
build social capital. I think that's kind of what my
calling is or what I'm doing with the show and what I look to
do in the future. Just because of that, you know,
God gave me a voice and and and certain abilities, and that's
kind of what I'm really good at. It doesn't mean that I can't do
other things as well. It just means that that's kind
of my main focus and kind of what I can give to the group.
Now, other people are going to be really good at building
political capital and other people are going to be very good
at building economic capital, you know, and all the other kind
of sub stack, you know, things that kind of go with that.
So this is so this kind of fits into and I know we're running up
on time here, so I'll keep this brief and we'll have you back on
me with Dimes or some other people to talk about this more
in depth because I think this is an idea that you guys can really
run with. But I've come up with a sort of
a term called civilizational capital.
And you know, so you have the three domains, the economic, the
political and the, and the social.
When these things are bound together by a Reggio.
And the Reggio is composed of three parts, which is the
region, the ruler and the religion.
And you need that strong Reggio to keep the other domains
together and functioning harmoniously with with each
other. When the Reggio is deteriorated
or destroyed or one element or whatever that is gone, what ends
up happening is those domains begin to cannibalize each other
because they want each, They can all independently create
capital, but they can't invest it without the other two.
So you'll see this like in Hollywood is a great example of
both the political and the economic kind of feeding off the
social right and bending the social to their whims.
And it's destroying the social. It's like that's why the movies
suck because they're no longer trying to build social capital.
What they're what they're being forced to do is build political
and economic capital, which you can do for a little bit, but
long term it's it just makes really crap art because that's
not what the social domain is very good at.
You know, it can, if all three are working together, then then
you can produce something. You can produce really good
propaganda. But if you but that has to be
held together by sort of that Reggio, that binding agent,
that's that essentially is what makes a civilization a
civilization rather than some failed state or some, a bunch of
warring petty tribes. So that's kind of why I'm saying
to people that, you know, you don't live in a civilization
anymore, But that doesn't have to be a bad thing.
It can just be a realization of where you're at.
And then you go, OK, so then, then what we do, well, it's
like, well, we, we rebuild it and we start to rebuild it using
that those kind of these kind of principles to to build something
that is to get back to the good, the beautiful, the true.
And, you know, I think that's the generational calling.
So we'll see, we'll see how those ideas, where those ideas
are percolating. I, I think the truth is never
all that popular. You know, Jesus is Jesus was the
truth. We, you know, an orthodoxy, we
believe that the logos is a man. Logos is the truth.
And the logos was, was, was given to us as a man and we kill
that man. So, so I think the truth is
always going to rub people wrong and, and make you few friends
and, and, and many enemies. But I like to think that the few
friends we're we're, we're making along the way are
actually, you know, quality people, which is the, the real
rub of it. You know, I would rather have
only 25,000 truly quality people listening and following rather
than having 25,000,000 chuds who are just useless consumers.
So you know, that's a, it's a, it's a goal.
It's a, it's we're, we're still getting there.
But but we'll, we'll get there, I think one day.
Yeah, Well, you know, and, and you know, if you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not I, you know, I
have. If we have to go over a couple
minutes, I'm. I'm fine with that.
I don't, you know, don't want to.
I'm sure there's, there's probably a coffee somewhere with
your name on it, considering you're, you're still early in
the morning. But I, I mean, I, I couldn't
agree more, right. I, I think a lot of people worry
about do we have the numbers right?
It's like, oh, we need to red pill everyone and we need to,
you know, we need to build this massive army of people or
whatever it is. I completely disagree, right?
Like, I, I think, you know, this is, it's never been about
numbers, right? I mean, definitely we, we want
to gather as many good people as we can, but it's the quality
thing, right? When you're thinking about, you
know, people who you're kind of bringing into these kind of, you
know, real life groups who are doing building and stuff like
that, right? When you when you actually tell
people, hey, we're going to, you know, we're going to go out to
this guy's house, we're going to go help him, you know, build
something or do something or whatever it is, right?
You know, it's the people who actually show up who sweat a
little bit, who put in the work, who do all that kind of stuff,
right? Those, those are the guys you
want around. You also want the guys who when
you go out to the bar and they have a few drinks, they're not
going to start, you know, praising the painter publicly
or, you know, any of those kinds of other things.
You want people who like know how to stay focused, be
practical, you know, build the relationships, all of that kind
of stuff. And.
You know, to be honest, there aren't a lot of them.
There aren't a lot of people who are willing to make the
sacrifice of I might believe these things, but I'm also going
to take action, right? It's I'm not just going to talk
about it online. And so those are the people that
you got to find and those people are, you know, worth their
weight in gold, right? Those, those good relationships,
those those like actual action. You know, Dimes talks about this
all the time. You just need three people to
topple in an NGO, you know, just three good guys working together
could completely throw a wrench in, you know, a lot of these,
you know, very counterproductive, you know, non
government organizations and kind of stop them from doing
whatever they're doing. And I think we need to have that
mindset of not waiting around for, you know, the, you know,
patriots in control. Trust the plan.
You know, everything will get figured out.
Just, you know, keep consuming Netflix and drinking beer and
don't worry about it. Like people need to realize the
cavalry isn't coming. You are the cavalry, right?
And that means going out and doing stuff.
And then the last thing to, to kind of point out you, you're
making the point like, you know, you're, you're calling is to,
you know, to be the guy online, right, to, to have the takes.
And, and I think that that is, you know, that is really
important, right? Like we, we need those people as
well, right? The way I think of this, and I
say this all the time, we need a biodiversity of strategy, right?
There's people who are going to see their opportunity to make
changes in the financial world. Some people are, it's going to
be in the agricultural sphere. Some people, it's the
educational sphere. Some people it's putting out,
you know, good literary content. I was on GR Hudson's podcast
where we recorded one not so long ago on Snow Crash, right?
And through that, we got to have a lot of interesting
conversations about all of these other things.
But you know, it's you don't need people to do everything.
You don't need people to be both the, you know, podcast guy and
the, you know, political leader and the, you know, bodybuilder
and all that, you know, these other things, right?
So what you need to do, and this is when I, I wrote an article,
it's called the parallel movement and it kind of talks
about what is the parallel movement and how do you get
involved? The big thing that I tell people
is like make yourself strong first, you know, figure out
where you want to contribute based on, you know, where are
your skills, where are your abilities, all that kind of
stuff. Dip your toe in lightly.
I think one of the worst things to do is to start to over commit
to some sort of parallel group and then, you know, they they.
Put. Sorry about that.
Some position of responsibility and then you, you're unable to,
you don't have the time or the energy or the discipline or
whatever it is. Yeah, I think that's that's
actually, that's actually a really big point.
Sorry to jump in for a SEC, but I think people, if you're, if
you're coming to this already, there's almost like a complete
package of modelling that people will jump into and go, oh, I
want to be all these things, right?
It's like, look, man, you got to the first step is really
realizing where you're at and what you need.
You know, how vulnerable are you?
What do you need to get certain things done?
Do you have to move? Do you have to do this?
Do you have to do like you got to figure out your fundamentals
and your and your baseline first.
And then once you got that kind of sorted out to to whatever
degree, then start building and do little things first.
I think the, the advice, I general advice I'd like to give
and it's, I don't, I'm not big on giving advice, but figure out
what you're, what you're comfortable with at sucking for
a while. So you got to, you're going to
suck at it. You got to be like, OK, this I
don't mind sucking at for, you know, as long as I need to suck
at it in order to get good at it.
And I think that's, that's key because I think a lot of people
like you're like you're saying is that, and this is the myth of
the individual where I have to be all these things.
And it's like, well, you might only end up ever being two of
those things of any kind of decent competency.
So, you know, really concentrate on becoming competent and then
as many as in many things you can be competent in great.
And if he ends up being only one decent thing, then that's OK
too. I'll kick it back to you, man.
But I'll just do a shout out to Super Chat $20 from Sergeant
Hodel. I don't like trooms, but
whatever, if but whatever if our girls have one as a friend.
We all have friends with mental illness, Quite a bit of the
panic from the gropers etcetera gives off Ned Flanders vibes.
Which doesn't work because women love dark triad.
I feel like there's some deep cuts that I'm not getting.
Yeah. Well, so this has been a common,
this is, you know, what BAP has said.
Oh, well, you know, I'm just friends with the Red scare
people. And, you know, they have this
Troon and they're they're friends of friends.
So, you know, and I'm not going to like, you know, go after
friends of friends, blah, blah, blah, Right.
And it's like, OK, don't get me wrong.
And we were talking about this earlier, like I have compassion
for trans people in the sense that a lot of these people, you
know, they could have been, they're usually, you know, kind
of autistic. You know, they have their own
kind of ideas. They're they're kind of like
high energy individuals and, you know, they just got psyopped
right into thinking that the answer for meeting in their
lives was this kind of the transhumanist kind of ideology.
And yeah, I mean, that's got to be fucking terrifying because I
think a lot of them realize, you know, to some degree, you know,
to different degrees, like shit, like I really fucked up my life.
But so, so I, again, I have compassion for them, you know,
I, I, I hope they've kind of figured things out.
I am a very spiritual person and like, you know, that kind of
sense. But the, the frustration I have
with that argument is, well, this isn't just some person
who's kind of like, you know, on the sidelines just kind of
enjoying the scene. This is someone who got put in
the centerfold of Man's World and now on the fucking cover of
Christian Science Magazine, right?
This is, you know, this is someone who constantly posts
with. Christian Science magazine,
that's just that's that I didn't know that and that's still I'm
my mind's still going. It's modelling folks, right.
This is the, this is the issue is that whether you understand
Gerard or know Gerard or whatever, or listen to my
podcast enough to get sort of a, I'm sure understanding of
Gerard, because whatever we, whatever's presented as a model
will be modelled. So so yeah, you do have to have
a high degree of selection discernment on who gets to be in
certain positions because those positions hold memetic value.
And there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be like,
I want to be like her, her, it, he it, whatever, right.
And if that becomes if, if the selection model selections in
the Dr. let's say, are including some batshit crazy people, well,
then you're just going to get a bunch of people modeling batshit
crazy people. And what do you think the
results will be? Not good so.
Yeah. And and so that's the thing for
me is it's it's not like some friend of friend in the scene
hanging out kind of thing. It's this person is clearly
being made a figurehead, right. And Brianna Wu is clearly also
the figurehead of this kind of rebranding of the progressives
away from the radical progressives into this more
based progressive kind of mindset.
So, you know, it's, it's not, it's not innocent accidental
association. This is, this is seems to be
very intentional platforming, you know, at what level, you
know, for what reasons. You know, there's a lot of ways
you can talk about it. I mentioned at one point, one of
the ways I like to explain this is kind of like the vaccine
conspiracy theory stuff where it's like at the very high level
to ignore me, you can just say look like they, you know, were
greedy and they rushed it out and they cut corners and, you
know, maybe they were fearful and that's very understandable
why they kind of did bad stuff. On a deeper level, you can say,
oh, you know, it's 5G nanobots, They're trying to like zombify
you, bro, or whatever it is, right?
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
And it's the same thing here is it's very clearly at the, at the
most basic level, it's it's a movement for more popularity,
exposure, notoriety. At a deeper level, it's you know
who, who knows, right? Well, you know, you can, you can
talk about where is the money coming from and all that kind of
stuff. But I think the bottom, like the
again, the relevant take away for a lot of people is just you
can't, you can't trust people who are willing to compromise
their values or you can't see them as, you know, promoting the
ultimate good that we all should be aspiring to.
And you did a great job of articulating just earlier.
It's the, the true, the good and the beautiful, right?
It's it's being involved, it's living your life.
It's, you know, being immersed in who you are as a human being.
And again, that's not going to be the cool, sexy stuff.
And I think that makes it very easy for you to pick out the
people who are doing the right, you know, you know, hitting the
right notes, so to speak, because they're not doing it
because it's cool and sexy and, you know, trendy at the time
they're doing it because that's what they really believe is
going to help move the needle. And so I think if people have
that sense of awareness, it's it's going to help them too.
Because this is kind of the last point I'll make here is I
believe there's a bunch of like untapped player character
individuals hanging out. You know, they're they're
society's got them down, they're frustrated, they're angry,
right? But if you give them the right
frame of mind, the right motivation, the right
encouragement, the right goals to Orient themselves towards,
they can kind of be these, you know, untapped heroes, right?
These people who then, you know, get involved and move the needle
in little ways. It doesn't need to be a lot of
guys, but you know, we we need to make sure that path, that
beacon of what people should be aiming for is clear and that
path is lit. And you know, my main concern is
all of the rush into, you know, kind of, you know, colonize this
thought space and and, you know, grift off of it.
It's going to make that that space very muddled and and hard
to see that path forward. Very well said.
OK, ladies and gentlemen, Madame Messrs, that brings us to the
end of the show. Meta let the people know where
they can get access to you and your work and we'll we'll sign
out. Yeah, sounds good.
So if if you like this conversation, so I'm mostly on
X. So at Metaprime 001.
I also have a website itsmetaprime001.com.
I have sub stack of the same name.
If you find me on X, you can find all my content through
there. I have a podcast called the
Metacast. I haven't put out anything
recently. I've been travelling have the
next podcast episode I'm putting out is actually with fairly
famous YouTube creator home math very based, cool guy.
So very much looking forward to to putting that out for for the
masses. We kind of tackle the the woman
questioned a little bit, but really it's more about, you
know, his kind of awakening path through that and trying to
spread more intentionality. A lot of the good stuff we've
talked about here. And then I do put out articles
on the sub stack. A lot of the website is meant to
kind of contain Evergreen content around the journey, how
to break from the mainstream delusion, enter the parallel
movement. But yeah.
And then at the last thing I always like to say when when
kind of talking about the content is, you know, if you're,
if any of this resonates with you, if you want to get involved
or whatever, like DM me, you know, my DMS are open.
I think that, you know, it's funny how much I say this and
yet, you know, I only get a few people reach out, but they're
always great conversations. There's always something going
on. And, you know, so it's, and
usually the people who are motivated to do so are, you
know, they're people worth talking to as well.
So yeah, don't, don't hesitate, reach out, you know, build
connections with your mutuals 'cause I think that is
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