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ladies and gentlemen, Madam 
Masures, welcome back to Two Bit

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Podcast in the name of the 
channel. 

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At the end of the name at the 
end of the day is the name of 

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the show. 
I'm your host, Jason Maranchuk, 

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and with me today is Metaprime, 
the TV head man himself. 

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Hi Meta. 
Hey, Jason, thanks for having me

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on. 
You know other things when you 

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run two shows a week is that 
sometimes you get confused at 

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which show you're on. 
I was almost like, welcome back 

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to meet the biggest. 
Oh shit, no, oops, cut that out.

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How you doing man? 
Yeah, I'm doing great. 

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Weather's been beautiful the 
last couple of days and just 

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been obviously just one crazy 
event after another in, you 

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know, the national discourse. 
So, you know, I'm, I'm high on 

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life right now. 
Right. 

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I was just saying to you before 
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that I don't know how it how it 
is for you, but the last few 

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years I've had a few instances 
where I honestly thought maybe 

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I'm going crazy in the last 24 
hours is kind of bearing that 

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out. 
I'm having a Deja vu from 2020, 

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mostly just cause of the 
reaction of, of the debates. 

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If people don't know what we're 
talking about or if this is part

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of the future for you. 
Yesterday was the Biden versus 

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Trump debate on CNN and, and 
Biden looked every bit of 

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decrepit, dead, dead ass Biden 
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Everyone else is finally 
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And it's crazy because this is, 
I've been saying this and 

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everyone I know has been saying 
this for like what, five years 

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now and they're just finally 
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least. 
So it's, it just feels weird to,

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to have them finally say the 
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for a long time. 
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genuine or if it's a grift or 
it's a psyop or they're, they're

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like, I don't know anymore. 
I have no freaking idea. 

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What say you? 
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Well, I mean, I think this is a 
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going to see more and more of is
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things that have been said in 
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You know, part of the reason 
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things to chat about is just, 
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biodiversity and fall of Western
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have been getting more and more 
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realizing, and especially at 
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talking head level is it's, you 
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that Trump is going to win. 
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position themselves for that, 
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they don't want to do is, you 
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Biden, you know, continue to 
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so sharp. 
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going to go down with the ship. 
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take right now is I think a lot 
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themselves such that when he 
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of take the blame for all of the
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and then they can try to refresh
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Yeah, he's definitely the 
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have no one else to scapegoat. 
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It'll be I mean, now I'm seeing 
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saying they're going to put in 
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What's the guy from from 
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Gavin Newsom. 
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And I'm like, this has gone from
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Like, what do you think? 
What are you thinking? 

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Like, how could you? 
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What? 
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I don't even know how they would
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So I put out a thread today that
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take on this, because I think, 
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other, you know, big 
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trends that we're seeing. 
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talking heads on CNN and all the
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were completely throwing Biden 
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They're like, oh, he's clearly 
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Democratic Democrats are in 
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You know, what are we going to 
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but one of them is it does lay 
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want to make a, a hard pivot 
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Newsom, they can do that. 
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they're going to have there is, 
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of the left are like, they know 
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They know that the, you know, 
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winning this, this next 
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I saw a tweet earlier today that
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Biden's going to do a second 
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run. 
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if that's true or not, but it 
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the case because I think that 
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so he can be the the sacrificial
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Yeah, I hardly doubt there 
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I mean, if I was Trump, I would 
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because that's just elder to 
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He can get away with saying it 
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that. 
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watching it. 
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feed, which is the only way to 
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every time Joe Biden showed up 
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Jones yelling at, you know, 
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He's a pedo, takes, takes 
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daughter. 
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fantastic. 
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OK, so the, the, the general 
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about, and this kind of all 
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Is that the dissident right or 
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whatever term you want to call 
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mainstream. 
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pet theories I call the Jason's 
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That's certainly around the 
neotrans, which would be how the

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woke gets transformed into 
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sort of recreating some Bush 
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time, at least the next 30 to 40
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Because one of the interesting 
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researching this for something 
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Charlie Rose interview or a 
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and two other feminists, 
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And this was from 1995, I 
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And everything out of their 
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living under for the last 10 
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Yeah, you know, and patriarchy. 
Get rid of me. 

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Get rid of sort of, oh, shoot, 
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morning, so awards sometimes 
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Get rid of. 
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talking progressive. 
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talking point after talking 
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30 odd years until it hit the 
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hits the main, it'll be around 
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And that's going to feel weird 
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talking about this stuff for, 
you know, lost. 

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I've, I've been doing it for 
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There's others been, we've been 
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And then that gets into some of 
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just kind of stepped in a in a 
hornet's nest of shit about a 

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month ago. 
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rambling. 
There's a setup kind of let walk

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us back to where you get into 
the trouble with Pariah the doll

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and all that stuff and just 
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We're going to be throwing out 
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you don't know who we're talking
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I don't blame you and God, God 
bless you. 

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I don't know if this is the 
rabbit hole you want to go down.

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It's full of razor blades and 
and crack, crack pipes. 

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So wear some PPE and get ready. 
We'll do our we'll do our best. 

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You just, you just keep talking,
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And I'll, I'll throw in like 
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or like who the fuck is that? 
Whatever I think is appropriate.

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Go ahead. 
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and, and I think to I like to 
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because a lot of times when I 
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comprehensively comprehensive 
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So if you go to my, my Twitter 
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highlights tab, the thread that 
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kicked a lot of this off was 
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And it's definitely worth 
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But basically to, to kind of 
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story, you know, I, I got on 
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with a few friends, you know, 
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disregarding a lot of the, you 
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And they were telling me, oh, 
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you know, you got to, you know, 
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This is interesting conversation
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So I got on, you know, followed 
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accounts in the distant right. 
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there's a large lack of kind of 
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say of, you know, hey, if you're
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I, you know, dove down the 
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and, you know, but to me on the 
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what you very quickly realize is
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the Anunnaki or, you know, 
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whatever you want to, you know, 
think at the at the bottom of 

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that rabbit hole, you still got 
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You got to have good family 
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good career. 
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move the needle, it's it's going
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level, you know, building 
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of stuff. 
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a lot of the other content, I 
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people with that message. 
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focus from the beginning. 
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that I thought were were good as
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that I think we should be 
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parallel movement, right? 
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structures, networks, groups, 
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with the dissident, right? 
A lot of these figures, you 

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meeting people and it was kind 
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ago, I started to kind of catch 
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post left or based progressives,
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progressive liberal sphere and 
who they've kind of started 

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floating in towards the distant 
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doll being one of them, an MTF 
tranny who, you know, is 

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drifting off like Bronze Age 
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a way to kind of be edgy and, 
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converted on 1st principles, 
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oh, you know, we need to aspire 
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beautiful and we need to take on
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rebuilding, You know, sorry if, 
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second, it's, it's my, my 
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first principles. 
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dangerous if you bring them in 
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you kind of trust them as having
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the discourse because we've seen
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people will bring in these 
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know, transhumanist. 
Sorry about that. 

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Yeah, this transhumanist agenda 
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And, you know, that's ultimately
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other people that they're 
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that was kind of my, they drew 
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become aware of their accounts, 
become aware of what they were 

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saying. 
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you know, and I point this out 
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wrote on my sub stack. 
Suffering from success, how the 

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distant right was not ready to 
win the culture war. 

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Like we're, we're winning in 
that human biodiversity and 

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destruction of Western 
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getting popular. 
And I and I do believe, you 

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know, it was inevitable, right? 
The, the, the pendulum was 

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destined to swing back. 
You know, these things are true,

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right? 
Races are different. 

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civilizational construction and,
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aggression against, you know, 
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Western civilization, you know, 
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people would get frustrated by 
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But I also think it's, you know,
to the credit of a lot of, you 

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know, nameless anonymous 
accounts who have been, you 

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know, making this stuff 
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mogging and creating content and
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risk in taking on these talking 
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if you, if you said this, you, 
you were liable to get cancelled

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if they could associate it with 
the, you know, like a your real 

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life name. 
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and be ostracized by your 
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stuff. 
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point where, you know, like 
Bronze Age Shorty gets kicked 

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out of her company by I forget 
she was working for like Stripe 

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or something like that because 
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tranny quote or tranny tweet 
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And now you have Elon Musk 
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legal team and fight against 
Stripe, right? 

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Like it's, it's a very 
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about this. 
I think a lot of people were 

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like, why are you, you know, so 
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It's like, it's not so much that
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are going viral. 
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And it's necessary for a lot of 
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It's just the fact that this is 
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into the scene who they're not, 
they're not here for the right 

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reasons. 
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the, you know, the Anon 
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all the alternate, right, 
However you want to, you know, 

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kind of think of that coalition 
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it cool, making it popular. 
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because the risk is lower and 
there's potential to to grift 

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and clout chase, they're going 
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reasons, right? 
But they're not going to have 

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those fundamental first 
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ideas will go mainstream. 
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soon as any idea goes mainstream
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general audience. 
Is that you? 

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It's going to get dumbed down. 
It's going to get watered down. 

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It's going to get it's going to 
get, you know, memetically taken

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out of your hands. 
So that to me doesn't bother me 

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so much more. 
It's more that I think people 

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are so obsessed with winning. 
That's what you always see is 

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winning this, winning that we're
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But just kind of like in 
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are either I'll defined, not 
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nuts. 
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humongous degree of people. 
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the neotrod prediction, which 
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the right and create this new 
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it's going to allow all the 
people who are essentially just 

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shit libs, but who are anti woke
and have made an entire career 

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out of being anti woke a way to 
offload, right, Because woke ISM

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will be done. 
It'll be somehow officially 

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given a death date, you know, 
yay. 

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And we won and Disney doesn't do
woke movies anymore and you 

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know, all that kind of stuff. 
But all those the, the, but the,

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the fundamental principles of 
woke won't go away because it 

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can't. 
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liberalism. 
Liberalism kind of just just 

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creates it. 
It can transfer it, it can, it 

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can give it a new sort of 
massage, but you can't really 

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unliberalized liberalism. 
It's the part of the problem of 

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trying to find solutions for 
liberal problems with within 

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liberalism doesn't work Like 
this is a big component to me 

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saying I want to break people's 
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I want to break my own frame 
because you have to be able to 

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see outside of it to understand 
what it is and to look for 

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solutions that maybe don't 
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Liberal democracy or you know, 
fascism, communism, all these 

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things are all, they're all 
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So just put that, put that all 
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I think as more and more common 
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ideas and like you said, the 
risk is eliminated or reduced, 

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what you're going to get is this
new college industry which 

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people like us will have to then
use a, a great degree of 

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discernment to not get sucked 
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be real. 
And the other kind of crappy 

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thing, and the people have to 
get ready for this too, is that 

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once that happens, then anyone 
with principles will become the 

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new scapegoat for that, for that
group, right? 

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They'll, they'll still be 
against the far right. 

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It'll just be the new far right 
won't be people talking about 

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Ebola. 
It'll be, you know, Orthodox 

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Christians, for example, or 
anyone who's like, hey, you 

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know, maybe don't let these 
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And then that you'll be the 
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You'll be the new scapegoat. 
You'll be the new outer fringe 

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that needs to be exposed, needs 
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party. 
I just think people need to get 

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ready for that. 
Yeah, no, I I think you're 

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absolutely right. 
I mean, there's a lot of ground 

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to cover. 
And so, but kind of jumping 

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ahead to the to the point that 
you're making, like one of the 

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evil villains of this story is 
this male to female transsexual 

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named Brianna Wu. 
And for those of you who don't 

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know who Brianna Wu is, he is a,
he was very prominent during 

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Gamergate. 
He he came out very aggressively

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against gamers, was able to, I 
think lobby Twitter at the time 

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to do a bunch of like censorship
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Not a good person. 
Very much not someone who is 

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literally the trans agenda 
personified in that. 

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I remember there's these leaked 
DMS for, you know, messages from

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a discord chat with Brianna Wu 
and a few other of his 

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compatriots. 
And he was basically admonishing

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the, the some of the other 
trannies because they were going

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too hard on the timeline. 
And he was like, look, like this

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isn't the time for us to go, you
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want, we want to play the long 
game. 

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And so we have to, you know, 
kind of like soften what we're 

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talking about now and then and 
then we can go hard later, 

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right? 
So this person like it should be

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very clear to anyone with, you 
know, you know, two cents to rub

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together that this person is a 
complete enemy and very 

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antithetical to everything that 
kind of exists in the space. 

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I'm sorry again about the the 
Browning out, but you know, so 

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the because but they're somehow 
getting platformed. 

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They're getting platformed by 
people like Richard Hania. 

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They're getting platformed. 
I think Brianna Wu and Lawrence 

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Southern were yuking it up on 
the timeline not so long ago, 

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right. 
It's like. 

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Just to just jump in for a 
second, did you know that 

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Brianna Ru ran for Senate or 
some, some sort of political 

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seat got got got destroyed in 
the in that running? 

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I think it was either during 
that running or right before or 

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right after, whatever. 
Go Google Brianna Wu and moon 

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rocks if you want to see the 
caliber of intelligence we're 

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dealing with. 
This is a person who thought 

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that you could weaponize the 
moon by just dropping, by 

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throwing a rock from the moon 
towards the earth and that would

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create AWMD. 
This is real, by the way. 

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I'm not. 
I'm not making that shit up. 

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So anyways, go ahead. 
Yeah, no. 

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And I'd also heard that Brianna 
would like, forgot to change his

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account and like, chat on his 
own video game or something like

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that and tried to use that as 
like, oh, I'm under attack. 

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Like, just classic, really 
horrible. 

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Just, you know, someone who is 
clearly trying to do every trick

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in the book to, you know, to 
push their agenda and to, you 

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know, defend themselves and 
stuff like this. 

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This is not a smart or, you 
know, good person by any stretch

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of the imagination. 
But you know, the Brianna was on

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a podcast not so long ago and I 
and I caught a little bit of the

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trailer and basically his, you 
know, his stance is, Oh, well, 

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you know, the, the radical 
progressive left has gone too 

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far. 
And now they're, you know, 

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allying with terrorists, these 
Palestinians, these evil people,

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and they're trying to transition
your kids. 

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And that's a bridge too far. 
That's so unacceptable, right? 

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And it's like, my dude in 
Christ, you are a dude who like,

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you know, has, you know, 
mutilated themselves in in favor

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of your delusion. 
Like you are far from the person

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who should be, you know, talking
about these things. 

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And you know, but basically what
Brianna was trying to do is kind

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of exactly what you're talking 
about where it's they know the 

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progressive element has gone too
far. 

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Maybe they lost control of it or
whatever. 

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Or, you know, it's it's morphed 
into this like anti Israeli, 

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like a digit. 
It's really funny, but. 

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That's the that's the big kicker
right there. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
A little bit of noticing going 

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on, but So what they want to do 
is they want to kind of like 

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sequester that group off. 
They want to kind of break them 

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off and say these people have 
gone too far. 

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We aren't those people. 
We don't want to transition 

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kids. 
We don't want to ally with 

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terrorists. 
We're the good progressives, 

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right? 
And the way that they're going 

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to do this, besides distancing 
themselves from that, you know, 

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kind of contingent is cozying up
with a lot of these kind of 

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based ideas, right, saying that 
they're, you know, like 

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conservative or, you know, 
admitting to racial realism and 

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or, you know, destruction of 
Western civilization. 

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There's a another good podcast 
in the sphere. 

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I'm sure you've I think I think 
you're you're friendly with with

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Dimes of blood satellite fame. 
But he had a a great episode not

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so long recently, the last 
episode. 

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And they had a crimes chat where
he has different kind of people 

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kind of come on, give a little 
bit of a do like a pre recorded 

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bit and had some gentleman who 
was basically making the point 

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that in Europe they're gearing 
up for war, right. 

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And you have all of these, you 
know, ostentiously conservative 

443
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,840
politicians starting to to gain 
ground. 

444
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720
And a lot of these kind of 
distant right talking points are

445
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,520
are are, you know, gaining 
popularity and actually starting

446
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,200
to find footing. 
They're pushing back against 

447
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,160
things like DEI and 
transitioning and all this kind 

448
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560
of stuff. 
But really it's it's to woo the 

449
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,080
white man so that they can get 
them back in into the fighting 

450
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,080
forces, right? 
They're starting to actually 

451
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,320
show, you know, white guys in 
Army recruitment ads now. 

452
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,560
And, you know, you can kind of 
make that argument of what this 

453
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,040
is, is, well, we know that these
are the ideas that are popular. 

454
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,800
These are the ideas that will 
resonate. 

455
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,840
And so we can hide behind these 
ideas and we can kind of 

456
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,600
ingratiate ourselves and 
maintain an audience and do all 

457
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,400
of these kinds of things so that
down the road, Well, then we can

458
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,960
talk about transitioning your 
kids. 

459
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,000
And then we can talk about, you 
know, all the other kind of 

460
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,960
liberal, progressive, you know, 
cancerous ideas that we want to 

461
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,320
push. 
And, you know, I, I think my 

462
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040
kind of the dog that I have in 
this fight, the reason that I 

463
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,440
feel so kind of motivated to, 
you know, burn a little bit of 

464
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,440
social capital to kind of point 
this out is because, you know, I

465
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,320
don't want these people in the 
space because I know that down 

466
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,840
the line they're they're going 
to betray the kind of the 

467
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,920
fundamental rules. 
I I think that they're going to 

468
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,160
create a lot of content that's 
kind of rage baity around like, 

469
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,680
don't you feel bad? 
And on that you're being 

470
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,560
attacked and that you know that,
you know that they hate the 

471
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,680
white straight guys and you 
know, all of this kind of stuff.

472
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,280
And it's going to be very hard 
to get to kind of the, the later

473
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,840
realizations that I, I hope most
anons get to, which is, yes, the

474
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,240
world's hard. 
It's difficult. 

475
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,920
It's important to kind of know 
the truth about human 

476
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480
biodiversity and fall Western 
civilization talking points. 

477
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,800
But the solution is, you know, 
get fit, build a, you know, 

478
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,960
community, build relationships, 
become competent, find other 

479
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,280
guys, you know, start building 
parallel movement stuff. 

480
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,920
And if you don't have kind of 
that message, that message gets 

481
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,280
lost because you know those 
people that they don't want to 

482
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,240
lose followers, they don't want 
to point you down the path. 

483
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,000
They want to kind of pull you 
into their orbit and have you 

484
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,120
consume their content. 
You know, I worry about the guys

485
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,600
who could make a difference who 
get stuck in that kind of rage 

486
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,560
bait porn layer. 
Well, and also because and 

487
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,040
they'll and they'll get 
attracted by views, right? 

488
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,360
So, you know, suddenly you're in
this in this person's orbit and 

489
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,240
you're YouTube channel that was 
struggling along now has hot, 

490
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,360
you know, 10,000 views or 
subscribers and they're always, 

491
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800
oh, I'm famous now, which is 
some stupid shit. 

492
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,520
It's prideful all the way down. 
The this is a interesting side 

493
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,680
quest to go down because it 
comes right down to the Troons 

494
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,520
right now where most of the 
prominent Troon's are people who

495
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040
chose this in their adult life, 
right? 

496
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120
Or let's say close to their 
adult life. 

497
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:51,720
What's going to be very 
interesting for the main and for

498
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:58,640
our little circles is dealing 
with the kids who are 131415 

499
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,720
whatever who were transitioned 
or put on puberty balkers. 

500
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,880
In about four to five years, 
those people will be adults. 

501
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,640
And we're already starting to 
see some, some reports of that 

502
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Detroit D Troon, let's say 
movement of a lot of kids who 

503
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,960
are going to be waking up one 
day going, Oh my God, you, you 

504
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,080
lied to me and you destroyed my 
body. 

505
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,160
And with those kids, that'll 
become really interesting. 

506
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,760
If I know I've talked about the 
spirit of the vengeful sun being

507
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,600
the new spirit of the age and it
being a spirit of complete and 

508
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,680
total violence based around 
betrayal, resentment and 

509
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,720
betrayal kind of combined into 
one zeitgeist. 

510
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,160
I think those kids will be the 
embodiment of it. 

511
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:50,680
Because, you know, it's one 
thing to to take shots at 

512
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Brianna Wu or Chelsea Hand. 
I want to say Chelsea handling 

513
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,040
same thing, but she could she 
could be assured. 

514
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440
I have no idea in all those, you
know, Pride, the doll, those 

515
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840
people. 
But it'll be a different thing 

516
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,320
in a few years when those kids 
come up through the pipe. 

517
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,320
And what do we do with them 
then? 

518
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Because there might be a lot of 
them who are, who really want to

519
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,000
be allies, who are genuine, who 
are full of rage and anger and 

520
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,040
discuss what that's what's been 
done to them. 

521
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,200
And I think we have to have A at
least a talk about it. 

522
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,320
I'm not saying we have to open 
the space for them necessarily, 

523
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,560
but there's certainly there has 
to be a discussion. 

524
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Yeah, I mean, you make a really 
good point, right? 

525
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600
Like, and this is the other 
thing is a lot of the times when

526
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,880
I, when I try to talk to people 
about the ideas that are 

527
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,960
existing in the space, I don't 
think of, you know, kind of the 

528
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,480
fundamental ideas of what do we 
call them, the distant ride or 

529
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,840
whatever as being subjective. 
I think of them as like they are

530
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
kind of objective things, right?
I've, I've written a lot of 

531
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,360
content around this. 
Like there's rules to reality. 

532
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,640
There's very clear goal of what 
you're trying to achieve. 

533
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680
It's flourishing is kind of the 
goal of life. 

534
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,840
And obviously this is there's a 
lot of nuance to unpack here, 

535
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,000
but just to kind of keep things 
brief, if you have a set of 

536
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,640
rules and a clearly defined 
goal, you have optimal 

537
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,120
strategies. 
You think of chess, right? 

538
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,800
There are good moves and bad 
moves, right? 

539
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,840
And so when I think about the 
kind of, you know, approach that

540
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,600
society we should be taking 
right now, you know, I think 

541
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,680
it's, it's not something that 
where it's like, oh, you know, I

542
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,440
think the, the liberals are, you
know, subjectively wrong right 

543
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,160
now. 
It's like they're objectively 

544
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,960
wrong, right? 
The the trans thing is not real.

545
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,440
It's delusional. 
And if you are trying to engage 

546
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,360
in a lie, right, just you think 
of like any situation that they 

547
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
say all the time, right? 
It's like it's much easier to 

548
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,640
tell the truth because if you 
lie, then you have to remember 

549
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720
all the times that you've lied, 
right? 

550
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440
And you have to like who you 
talk to and who you know, who 

551
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,200
talks to who. 
And you have to create all these

552
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000
alternative realities that start
falling apart. 

553
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440
And so I think that's kind of 
what the, that's exactly what 

554
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,400
the what's happening with the 
progressives is their utopian, 

555
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,360
you know, vision of the world. 
It's not real, it's not 

556
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680
sustainable. 
It's not grounded in natural 

557
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,640
truth. 
And so it's all falling apart. 

558
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,360
And it's only a matter of time 
before that gets so bad and that

559
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,520
you have this backlash. 
And I think that's largely what 

560
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,880
a lot of this is. 
And so we are going to see a lot

561
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,240
of people who, you know, for 
whatever reason, they, you know,

562
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,960
they get spit out by this kind 
of delusional world that they 

563
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,760
lived in. 
And they'll look for grounding 

564
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,560
and meaning and a path back. 
And certainly for those who have

565
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,600
kind of, you know, tried to 
transition, that's going to be a

566
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,040
horrific realization. 
But you know, for the people who

567
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,840
are just kind of ideologically 
possessed, right? 

568
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Like, how do you give them a 
good and a healthy path back, 

569
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
right? 
I definitely believe that if 

570
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,680
someone is, you know, earnest in
their kind of and insincere and 

571
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,160
kind of, you know, their their 
desire to to kind of like find a

572
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880
way back that you should open 
that pathway to them. 

573
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,720
But also at the same time, you 
know, they shouldn't become 

574
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,160
leaders of the space. 
They can shouldn't, you know, be

575
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560
held up right? 
Like you have all of these this 

576
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,120
this recent Lily E girl, you 
know, psyop that's going on and 

577
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,639
all of this other stuff, right. 
It's like, you know, those 

578
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,760
people aren't your leadership. 
Those people, you know, maybe 

579
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,480
they help people understand 
things and they become a vehicle

580
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,480
for the message, but you can't 
confuse them as people who are 

581
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,400
going to be able to lead you in 
the right direction. 

582
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Yeah, I that's like, like I 
said, the discernments we're 

583
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,960
going to have to be able to 
practice discernment and 

584
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:46,440
forgiveness is going to be a, a 
very top priority or, or a 

585
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,880
valuable 2 valuable assets for 
our groups going forward. 

586
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,199
Like, like I said, the 
temptation will be, you know, 

587
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,600
I'm thinking of the meme, you 
know, which way Western man. 

588
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,080
And for the distant right, it'll
be like one path gets you on Joe

589
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Rogan and the other path keeps 
you in like relative obscurity. 

590
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,360
And a lot of people are going to
veer, you know, Joe Rogan's side

591
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,360
there. 
There will be a day when when 

592
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,280
app is on Joe Rogan or, or 
something similar, you know, and

593
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,920
and that's just something that 
people have to pray, get 

594
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,840
prepared for that. 
There's a lot of people who you 

595
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,240
know who and you know, 
especially and to give them 

596
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,840
their due, like, you know, BAP 
and a a even 0 Lovecraft who've 

597
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,840
been working at this for a long 
time and building their own 

598
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,640
little followers on Twitter X, 
you know, walking through that 

599
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,200
minefield, which is like, you 
know, progressive Twitter and 

600
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:50,760
and and social medias. 
And it'll be hard just to make 

601
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,000
an argument against them having 
a moment in the sun. 

602
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:03,320
But, you know, for the rest of 
us, the the work doesn't get the

603
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,720
the work doesn't finish once 
we've won, you know, once these 

604
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:12,000
things become socially 
acceptable, it's not like that's

605
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,560
where we stop and go, OK, great.
You know, now we can just go 

606
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,280
back to, to grilling. 
It's we. 

607
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Thomas 77 just posted something 
out. 

608
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,240
And I replied with, you know, 
winners don't stop running. 

609
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,320
Winners keep running past the 
past the finish line because 

610
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,160
that's is what's going to be 
required and you're going to see

611
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,720
it. 
I think a natural sort of 

612
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,280
selection process started 
happening in the next, I don't 

613
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,000
know, let's give it a 55 to 10 
year window. 

614
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,200
As these things become more and 
more acceptable, the, you know, 

615
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,840
the the people who are who are 
in it to really win it are the 

616
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,680
people who are thinking 
generationally and not just what

617
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,400
can I get out of this now? 
What kind of new book deal can I

618
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:05,480
get now? 
No, this is exactly the kind of 

619
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,640
the concern that I have around 
this is you have these people, 

620
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,280
you know, in in the article, in 
the suffering from success 

621
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,080
article, I talk about sure we 
have this influx of external, 

622
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,760
you know, take sellers. 
This is a term that the much the

623
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,880
very infamous basal 
neobacteracion has has kind of 

624
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,400
coined this idea of take 
sellers. 

625
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,960
And basically a take seller is 
someone who they position 

626
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,000
themselves and their opinions in
the market based on, you know, 

627
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,840
optimization for kind of grift, 
right? 

628
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,400
Like they want to cultivate 
followers, you know, sell them 

629
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960
whatever they're selling them or
or, you know, generate, you 

630
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,280
know, a bigger, bigger 
reputation and reach. 

631
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,680
And you have your external take 
sellers, right? 

632
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Like think of like Destiny, the 
Albany Liberal, the the guy who,

633
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:54,480
you know, had that open marriage
and was a gamer streamer and 

634
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
then, you know, had that fall 
apart, right. 

635
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,680
You know, it's very much 
enjoying the the what is it 

636
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,280
Shorten Prada or you know. 
Shorten, Freud. 

637
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, Shorten Freud of of all my

638
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,920
enemies suffering right now. 
But you know, he's been putting 

639
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,200
out tweets. 
In fact, I have this one in the 

640
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,680
article. 
He says decolonization is just 

641
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,760
anti white racism dressed up in 
a stupid academic terms. 

642
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
I've never in my life seen 
someone who champions this term 

643
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,760
use it to describe an activity 
of any non western country, 

644
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,240
right? 
And so he put this out in June 

645
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,080
9th, right? 
So that's like, you know, 19 

646
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,800
days ago. 
It's a very recent tweet, right?

647
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,840
And he's coming out against anti
white racism, right? 

648
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,760
It was crazy, crazy. 
This guy is a sophist and, you 

649
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,640
know, a progressive for the 
longest time. 

650
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,200
He's he's, you know, promoting 
all of these degenerate values. 

651
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,040
And now he's kind of any, I 
think, you know, at the time 

652
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,440
that I screenshot this tweet, it
had 11,000 likes and 1.1 million

653
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,080
views, right? 
So he's clearly drifting in on, 

654
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000
you know, human biodiversity and
fall Western civilization 

655
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,520
talking points getting popular. 
On top of that, you know, you 

656
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,520
have your internal take sellers,
right. 

657
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,880
This is this is the thing that I
see, right, is you have people 

658
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,200
internal in the space and 
whether or not they are, you 

659
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:22,040
know, endorsing these people 
directly and sometimes they even

660
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,480
are right, but they're at least 
making room for them. 

661
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,400
They're running cover for them. 
They're allowing them into the 

662
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,280
space because they know this is 
a way to grow my audience, 

663
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,720
right? 
If I can, you know, go on the 

664
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,720
Red Scare podcast, which has, 
you know, many more viewers 

665
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:43,840
than, you know, other podcasts, 
and I can get that exposure and 

666
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,040
I can, you know, get people to 
like my content, you know, 

667
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200
that's a win. 
And whether you see that as kind

668
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,000
of like, you know, trying to 
share the message and broaden 

669
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000
the reach, or if you see that as
like, you know, as I do more of 

670
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,720
a compromise of values, you 
know, it's, it's kind of up to 

671
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,280
you to decide. 
But I think, you know, the big 

672
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,280
point that I make in the 
article, and I really try to 

673
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,840
stress this is, you know, I'm 
kind of at a point now where I'm

674
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,400
not trying to like go after 
individual people specifically 

675
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,960
'cause it's just, you know, you 
get bogged down and like dumb 

676
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,760
Internet drama. 
And a lot of these guys are 

677
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,880
pretty vindictive, but it's 
pointing out the the broader. 

678
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Movements the the patterns, 
right the strategies that are 

679
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,040
you know the shifts that are 
happening right And if so, if 

680
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,720
you make this point of like, 
hey, human biodiversity and fall

681
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,800
Western civilization talking 
points are getting popular. 

682
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880
It's becoming more mainstream. 
You're having the external take 

683
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,800
sellers move into the distant 
right sphere. 

684
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,320
You're having these distant 
right sphere guys is take 

685
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040
sellers internal take sellers. 
They're moving closer and kind 

686
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,360
of tacitly kind of running cover
and opening up space for these 

687
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,440
people who have these 
progressive values. 

688
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,920
They're all going after, you 
know, the the desire to go 

689
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,200
mainstream, to be part of the 
winning team to, you know, to 

690
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,440
create this kind of next 
counterculture that that goes 

691
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,480
mainstream. 
Like this new mainstream 

692
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,880
counterculture. 
They all want to get on board 

693
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,720
and get a meal ticket, right? 
They're doing it for the money, 

694
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,680
they're doing it for the 
material success. 

695
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,240
And you need to be aware of that
because, you know, if you really

696
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,680
want someone who you want to 
follow, right, you want. 

697
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,640
And again, it goes back to this 
idea of what is really the 

698
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,760
message that anons should be 
getting the smarter people that 

699
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440
player characters who have the 
potential to help move the 

700
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,120
needle, even if it's in a small 
way. 

701
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,960
Well, it's, you know, work out, 
build relationships, become 

702
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640
successful in your career, 
network with people, meet in 

703
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,360
person and start building stuff 
stuff on a local level. 

704
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,520
And you know, a lot of the guys 
that I think of when I think of 

705
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,840
these take sellers, they're not 
trying to encourage empowerment 

706
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,840
because it's not sexy, right? 
That's that's another big part 

707
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,880
of this. 
Like it's very easy and sexy for

708
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,760
these guys to say, you know, 
enjoy like vitalism stuff. 

709
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Ultimately a pretty good thing. 
But if you're just if your 

710
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,240
material goals are just the end 
as opposed means to higher 

711
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,640
spiritual goals, then you're 
kind of losing the plot. 

712
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,920
You're not, you're not, you 
know, actually going after 

713
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,680
something that's going to be 
fulfilling and meaningful. 

714
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,400
And that's kind of the worry 
that I have is you have these 

715
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,720
guys, they're materialists. 
There's a lot of these guys will

716
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,160
come out against religion, 
spirituality, virtue. 

717
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840
And again, you know, you might 
say, oh, you know, meta's kind 

718
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,760
of like this, you know, LinkedIn
style kind of, you know, self 

719
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,160
help, you know, very brown 
content. 

720
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480
It's like, say that all you 
want, right? 

721
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,480
And yeah, my background is being
tech recruiter and posting stuff

722
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,720
on LinkedIn. 
So maybe that's just something I

723
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:43,920
have to accept and lean into. 
But you know, it's that message 

724
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,160
of, you know, you, you if you 
don't get stuck in the message, 

725
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,840
once you get the message, hang 
up the phone, right? 

726
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,200
The the next step is get busy 
building, get build it busy 

727
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,920
living your life and proving 
yourself. 

728
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,000
And I want to see that more. 
You know, I think that there's, 

729
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,960
there's some of the guys who, 
you know, like any, any take 

730
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,840
seller is going to have to have 
some amount of truth. 

731
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,880
And, you know, there is a lot of
promotion of vitalistic ideas, 

732
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000
which I think is it again, it's 
just as good as the human 

733
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,160
biodiversity in the destruction 
of Western civilization. 

734
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,800
It just needs to be in the 
service of the right end. 

735
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,240
And so that's kind of the big 
thing for me is if, if people 

736
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:26,240
have this awareness of where the
incentives of the system are and

737
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:30,640
you can see who's moving because
of material goals versus who's 

738
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,440
kind of focusing on that kind of
transcendent spiritual message. 

739
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,960
You know, I think that should 
give you a, a good litmus test 

740
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,880
for understanding who to who to 
take seriously and who to 

741
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,280
understand as kind of, you know,
trying to sell you something. 

742
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Talking about selling stuff. 
Hey folks, I just gifted out 10 

743
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,840
memberships at the end of the 
month here to the two bits 

744
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,600
friends not feds YouTube thing. 
It's $2.00 a month. 

745
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,400
I've set it as low as I can and 
be on brand as I can. 

746
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Lots of extra content in there. 
So congratulations and welcome 

747
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680
to all the people who just got a
gifted membership and to all the

748
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,960
other people sign right up $2.00
a month. 

749
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,480
It's it helps keep the lights on
and I appreciate each and 

750
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,120
everyone of you. 
Also, if you like coffee and you

751
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,520
like supporting a family run 
business, go down to the the 

752
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,520
description below. 
You can find a Fox and Sons 

753
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,680
link. 
Go there, use 2 bit on the 

754
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,280
checkout code and if you live 
anywhere in the continental 

755
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,560
United States, you can get some 
coffee sent to you. 

756
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:37,200
It's 15% off if you use, I think
it's 15% off some of that if for

757
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,280
orders of $30 or more if you use
the two bit code. 

758
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,920
So there's the grift. 
You can send me money in other 

759
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,320
ways to appreciate that, you 
know, we're moving, moving 

760
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,080
forward to make this a 
professional thing. 

761
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,720
And it's, it's like I only get 
to do that because of the 

762
00:44:55,720 --> 00:45:01,200
support of people like you. 
So anyways, that's my grift. 

763
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,240
I suck at it, but it is. 
It's there. 

764
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,600
We got 15 minutes left, my 
friend. 

765
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,720
What do you want to talk about? 
You. 

766
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:09,720
It's The floor is yours. 
The mic is yours. 

767
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,560
You can say whatever the hell 
you fucking want. 

768
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Yeah, no, I mean. 
Take us down a rabbit hole and 

769
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,440
take us. 
Take us wherever you want. 

770
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,800
Yeah, I mean, I think we've hit 
a lot of the points around this.

771
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,520
You know, we kind of jumped in 
the middle of the story to the 

772
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,280
end. 
So maybe we Tarantino it and go 

773
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:33,320
back a little bit, but you know 
basically caught on to all of 

774
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,200
this happening did what really 
was the lightning rod that 

775
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:44,840
kicked this off the the thread 
that I wrote on the post left 

776
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,320
grift was because pariah the 
doll again the MTF tranny. 

777
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:55,120
He put out a tweet that had the 
the cover of the latest print, 

778
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,360
the first print edition of Man's
World, and then. 

779
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,440
What is what is? 
What is man's world? 

780
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Yeah, so Man's World is the, you
know, the brainchild of Roig 

781
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Nationalist or Baby Gravy. 
You know, and for a long time 

782
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,480
it's been kind of the premier 
dissident, right magazine. 

783
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,920
A lot of people have written for
it, a lot of good content in 

784
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,080
there, a lot of promotion of, 
you know, this raw egg 

785
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,320
nationalism, right? 
It's slonking the eggs vitalist 

786
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,000
mindset, that kind of stuff. 
I mean, a lot of stuff I agree 

787
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,400
with. 
And, you know, that was kind of 

788
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,920
the reason that it surprised me 
so much is because, you know, I,

789
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,120
I considered Man's World and Ren
is, is being very kind of 

790
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,960
ideologically aligned. 
And so, you know, having the 

791
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,280
tranny in there was really 
surprising. 

792
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,720
I mean, initially I wasn't 
really trying to go after Man's 

793
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,360
World specifically. 
It was more about, you know, why

794
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,080
are these people grifting into 
the space to the extent that 

795
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,240
they're getting, you know, a 
centerfold shot of Pariah the 

796
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,040
doll in Man's World. 
You know, and there and there 

797
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,920
was some kind of back and forth 
about like how that happened. 

798
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
And, you know, again, I won't 
get too much into the drama, 

799
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,960
but, you know, regardless of the
details, right, it, it begs the 

800
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,560
question of like, you know, 
clearly the space is getting a 

801
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,080
little too close and a little 
too cozy with these people. 

802
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,800
The other thing that I think 
really was the kicker is, is not

803
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,720
just like a couple days ago, 
Pariah the Doll is now on the 

804
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,600
cover of Christian Science 
magazine and being kind of 

805
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,560
heralded as the figurehead of 
the new counterculture 

806
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,600
conservative movement in New 
York City. 

807
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Like it's, you know, it's like 
one time, you know, an 

808
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,200
aberration 2 times. 
Like this is starting to make a 

809
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,320
pattern, right? 
Clearly this person is for some 

810
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:47,800
reason being held up as a 
figurehead of the movement in in

811
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,800
New York City, the 
counterculture thing, right? 

812
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,760
And you know, same thing with 
Brianna Wu. 

813
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,000
You got Brianna Wu showing up on
all these, like ostentiously 

814
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,200
conservative or you know. 
Podcasts, Can I just have a Can 

815
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,080
I just have a brief Fuck you, I 
was right. 

816
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480
Fuck you, I was right. 
Fuck you, I was right. 

817
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,280
Yeah, I've been seeing that one 
clip that you put out and you're

818
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,120
like, yeah, they're all going to
be eating apple pie and wearing 

819
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,680
sun dresses. 
Yep, especially the troons. 

820
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440
The Troons will be really into 
the sun dresses. 

821
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Yeah, and you know, it's it's 
crazy to me. 

822
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,400
You know, my concern is that 
you, you know, like I, I think 

823
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,360
again, if if you want to 
understand any kind of like 

824
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,120
potential of a conspiracy 
theory, right, you think of like

825
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,000
sealing the election, how would 
they do it? 

826
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Well, they would do it in, you 
know, Democrat controlled 

827
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,880
cities. 
They would stop the vote count 

828
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,640
and they would like plus in a 
bunch of ballots. 

829
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,320
And that's that's exactly what 
you saw, right, Is like the the 

830
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,040
optimal strategy for stealing 
the election is looks like 

831
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,240
there's a lot of evidence that 
that's what happened, right? 

832
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,760
All the bell weather counties 
like completely Trump. 

833
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,480
And so it's it's a huge 
statistical anomaly that they 

834
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,080
would, you know, they would all 
go for Trump and yet have Biden 

835
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,160
win stuff like that, right. 
And I think it's similar here. 

836
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,480
It's like, OK, you know, maybe 
there's this idea of like, oh, 

837
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,800
you know, the just an accidental
like insertion of tranny into 

838
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,120
dissident right magazine. 
But, you know, now it's like, 

839
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:17,320
well, if you wanted to kind of, 
you know, pull in the liberals 

840
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,240
and, you know, the progressives 
and all these people and you 

841
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:25,120
want to make the space a little 
bit more palatable for them, 

842
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,680
right? 
How would you do that? 

843
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,320
Well, you make trannies the 
figurehead of your movement, 

844
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,080
right? 
Like, you know, and you put them

845
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,720
in ostentiously conservative, 
conservative content. 

846
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,360
And, you know, and so like, 
that's what we're seeing. 

847
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,360
And, you know, it's, it's a 
little frustrating to the degree

848
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,000
that like some people, you know,
I understand, like people don't 

849
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,960
want to get dragged into drama. 
And I think there's a lot of 

850
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,160
people who are in the network, 
they want to kind of have these,

851
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,400
you know, they don't want to 
upset the balance and the 

852
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,800
relationships and all that kind 
of stuff. 

853
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,720
But it's like, OK, what's really
going on in the back? 

854
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:02,880
And can we trust these people 
to, you know, to hold the course

855
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,480
and maintain values? 
I think that this is evidence to

856
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,320
the contrary. 
So anyway, that was that was 

857
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,480
kind of what went down with 
that. 

858
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,120
And then, you know, since then 
I've been trying to, you know, 

859
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,080
put this more into words. 
And so the article on suffering 

860
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,280
from success kind of highlights 
this again, you know, you have 

861
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,200
Brianna Wu, who I think it's 
it's a very important figure to 

862
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,600
pay attention to because anyone 
associated with Brianna Wu is is

863
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:32,320
very clearly not your friend. 
Like Richard Hanania, I guess, 

864
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,240
had Brianna Wu on his podcast 
not so long ago. 

865
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,200
And in preparation for that, 
Brianna Wu put up a picture of 

866
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,320
another trans person, a Hunter 
Schaeffer and was like, is like,

867
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,280
Oh, I love, you know, if people,
you know, sent me cool pictures 

868
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,520
of Hunter Schaeffer and then 
Richard Hani, you know, replies 

869
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,360
now that's a woman, you know, 
and like, these people are not 

870
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,400
your friends. 
They're going to, you know, 

871
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,600
bring all this trans stuff in, 
like Amy. 

872
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,240
Also, there was like somebody 
posted and a lot of these are in

873
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,120
the article that that have a 
picture of, you know, Baron 

874
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Trump and you know how like he's
going to start a dynasty and is 

875
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,600
one of these Dimes where people 
is like, yes, we must create a 

876
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,080
union between Trump and the doll
queen of dime square pariah. 

877
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,360
You know, and it's just like 
holy, you know, Jesus, like, you

878
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,280
know, this is not that's not 
even possible. 

879
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,240
Guys like why are you trying to 
make this a thing? 

880
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,560
So, you know, I think that 
really that is the IT, you know,

881
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000
it should be a white pill in the
sense that our ideas are 

882
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,440
winning. 
They're getting out there. 

883
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,000
It it's it's good, right? 
But it is it is a huge it needs 

884
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,320
to be people need to be aware 
of, well, this is going to come 

885
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,920
with a lot of problems that we 
weren't, you know, counting on, 

886
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,280
right. 
This is the dog catching the 

887
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,640
car. 
The idea that we, you know, oh, 

888
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,360
like, you know, we thought it 
would be impossible to get, you 

889
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,680
know, human biodiversity and 
fall of Western civilization 

890
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,160
talking points out there. 
Now we've done that. 

891
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,600
We have a whole new set of 
problems. 

892
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,760
We need to be able to to kind of
be on top of that, pay 

893
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,680
attention, you know, adjust 
accordingly. 

894
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,800
And again, I think the way that 
we identify who's kind of on the

895
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,320
right side, you know, it's 
difficult when you have a bunch 

896
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,840
of banana accounts, right? 
Because it, I think it really is

897
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,000
action, right? 
Action is the most pure form 

898
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,480
manifestation of belief. 
And you know, if you are 

899
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,680
building something in a network 
and you're running work events 

900
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,200
and doing all these kinds of 
other things like you're not 

901
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:30,760
advertising that shit on the 
timeline. 

902
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,160
You're not you just you got to 
be careful about your OPSEC and 

903
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,920
all that kind of stuff. 
And so, you know, it's going to 

904
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,400
be people who kind of stay away 
from, you know, the the 

905
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,840
grifters. 
It's going to be people who 

906
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,720
talk, you know, focus a little 
bit more on virtue and doing 

907
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,760
and, and transcending the rage 
bait porn. 

908
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,200
But it's also going to be in 
Group chats and it's going to be

909
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,120
in real life meetups. 
And, you know, this is a drum 

910
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,400
that I beat and I've been 
beating for a long time. 

911
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,360
There's, you know, a lot of 
figures in the distant writer, 

912
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,360
you know, aggressively warning 
about, oh, you can't meet up in 

913
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,440
person. 
You, you, you can't compromise 

914
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,960
your opsec. 
You got to be really careful. 

915
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,040
These people are going to come 
after you, you know, basically 

916
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,400
from a very early on, I've met a
ton of anons. 

917
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,840
I've traveled across the 
country. 

918
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
I've you know, it's part of the 
reason that I'm now out in the 

919
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,280
Pacific Northwest is the 
contingent of people who I think

920
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,120
are really building are out here
and you know, I've moved to be 

921
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,160
around and involved and and 
doing that kind of stuff. 

922
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,440
Like, you know, I I haven't had 
an issue, right. 

923
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,400
I've shown my face to a bunch of
people and no one, no one's come

924
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,840
after me or tried dox me yet. 
But you know, it's I I think 

925
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,120
we're more often hiding from our
friends than from our enemies. 

926
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,000
And I think that if you do want 
to get involved in the move the 

927
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:47,280
needle, make calculated, you 
know, risks, you know, make, you

928
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,080
know, have like a, you know, be 
smart and mindful about it. 

929
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,960
But you know, if you're just, 
yeah, if you're just going to 

930
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,280
sit alone, you know, in your, in
your kind of your your place and

931
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,320
just tweet online and think 
you're going to change the world

932
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,920
that way. 
Or, you know, it's like the you 

933
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,280
are of an idea of culture will 
change us. 

934
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,080
You know, just just write 
articles, Bros like, yeah, 

935
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,520
that'll, that'll solve 
everything. 

936
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,600
I, I, I just, I can't buy that. 
I think it's nonsense. 

937
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,840
And you know, I, I would 
encourage people to, you know, 

938
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:22,280
you know, the first step is 
getting able, sorry, first step 

939
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,760
getting online, finding your 
people. 

940
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,320
Next step is networking and 
getting involved in the offline 

941
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,480
sphere. 
And yeah, I'd want to see more 

942
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,800
people do that. 
I would add to that in terms of 

943
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,640
you have to kind of figure out 
what your, I'll use the word 

944
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,320
purpose or your talent OR your 
or your stack is, you know, in 

945
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,720
terms of Curtis Jarvan or people
like that, they're, they can 

946
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:51,160
build social capital. 
I think that's kind of what my 

947
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,640
calling is or what I'm doing 
with the show and what I look to

948
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,400
do in the future. 
Just because of that, you know, 

949
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,120
God gave me a voice and and and 
certain abilities, and that's 

950
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,800
kind of what I'm really good at.
It doesn't mean that I can't do 

951
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,080
other things as well. 
It just means that that's kind 

952
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:12,320
of my main focus and kind of 
what I can give to the group. 

953
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,880
Now, other people are going to 
be really good at building 

954
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,120
political capital and other 
people are going to be very good

955
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,440
at building economic capital, 
you know, and all the other kind

956
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,120
of sub stack, you know, things 
that kind of go with that. 

957
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,720
So this is so this kind of fits 
into and I know we're running up

958
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,360
on time here, so I'll keep this 
brief and we'll have you back on

959
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,600
me with Dimes or some other 
people to talk about this more 

960
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,880
in depth because I think this is
an idea that you guys can really

961
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,760
run with. 
But I've come up with a sort of 

962
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,760
a term called civilizational 
capital. 

963
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,640
And you know, so you have the 
three domains, the economic, the

964
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,720
political and the, and the 
social. 

965
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,200
When these things are bound 
together by a Reggio. 

966
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,400
And the Reggio is composed of 
three parts, which is the 

967
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,840
region, the ruler and the 
religion. 

968
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:00,440
And you need that strong Reggio 
to keep the other domains 

969
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,520
together and functioning 
harmoniously with with each 

970
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,960
other. 
When the Reggio is deteriorated 

971
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,440
or destroyed or one element or 
whatever that is gone, what ends

972
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,440
up happening is those domains 
begin to cannibalize each other 

973
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,680
because they want each, They can
all independently create 

974
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,680
capital, but they can't invest 
it without the other two. 

975
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,600
So you'll see this like in 
Hollywood is a great example of 

976
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,280
both the political and the 
economic kind of feeding off the

977
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,800
social right and bending the 
social to their whims. 

978
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,880
And it's destroying the social. 
It's like that's why the movies 

979
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,960
suck because they're no longer 
trying to build social capital. 

980
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,960
What they're what they're being 
forced to do is build political 

981
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,960
and economic capital, which you 
can do for a little bit, but 

982
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,840
long term it's it just makes 
really crap art because that's 

983
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,280
not what the social domain is 
very good at. 

984
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,960
You know, it can, if all three 
are working together, then then 

985
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,840
you can produce something. 
You can produce really good 

986
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,440
propaganda. 
But if you but that has to be 

987
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,400
held together by sort of that 
Reggio, that binding agent, 

988
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,120
that's that essentially is what 
makes a civilization a 

989
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,720
civilization rather than some 
failed state or some, a bunch of

990
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:17,600
warring petty tribes. 
So that's kind of why I'm saying

991
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,600
to people that, you know, you 
don't live in a civilization 

992
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,480
anymore, But that doesn't have 
to be a bad thing. 

993
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,200
It can just be a realization of 
where you're at. 

994
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,600
And then you go, OK, so then, 
then what we do, well, it's 

995
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,840
like, well, we, we rebuild it 
and we start to rebuild it using

996
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,680
that those kind of these kind of
principles to to build something

997
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,000
that is to get back to the good,
the beautiful, the true. 

998
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,680
And, you know, I think that's 
the generational calling. 

999
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,680
So we'll see, we'll see how 
those ideas, where those ideas 

1000
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,880
are percolating. 
I, I think the truth is never 

1001
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,080
all that popular. 
You know, Jesus is Jesus was the

1002
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,520
truth. 
We, you know, an orthodoxy, we 

1003
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,280
believe that the logos is a man.
Logos is the truth. 

1004
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,920
And the logos was, was, was 
given to us as a man and we kill

1005
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,640
that man. 
So, so I think the truth is 

1006
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,840
always going to rub people wrong
and, and make you few friends 

1007
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,040
and, and, and many enemies. 
But I like to think that the few

1008
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,800
friends we're we're, we're 
making along the way are 

1009
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,880
actually, you know, quality 
people, which is the, the real 

1010
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,800
rub of it. 
You know, I would rather have 

1011
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,720
only 25,000 truly quality people
listening and following rather 

1012
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:37,240
than having 25,000,000 chuds who
are just useless consumers. 

1013
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,240
So you know, that's a, it's a, 
it's a goal. 

1014
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,480
It's a, it's we're, we're still 
getting there. 

1015
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,320
But but we'll, we'll get there, 
I think one day. 

1016
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Yeah, Well, you know, and, and 
you know, if you. 

1017
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I mean, I'm not I, you know, I 

1018
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,560
have. 
If we have to go over a couple 

1019
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,800
minutes, I'm. 
I'm fine with that. 

1020
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,760
I don't, you know, don't want 
to. 

1021
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,040
I'm sure there's, there's 
probably a coffee somewhere with

1022
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,760
your name on it, considering 
you're, you're still early in 

1023
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,360
the morning. 
But I, I mean, I, I couldn't 

1024
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,160
agree more, right. 
I, I think a lot of people worry

1025
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,400
about do we have the numbers 
right? 

1026
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,080
It's like, oh, we need to red 
pill everyone and we need to, 

1027
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,560
you know, we need to build this 
massive army of people or 

1028
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,960
whatever it is. 
I completely disagree, right? 

1029
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:26,960
Like, I, I think, you know, this
is, it's never been about 

1030
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,360
numbers, right? 
I mean, definitely we, we want 

1031
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,560
to gather as many good people as
we can, but it's the quality 

1032
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,920
thing, right? 
When you're thinking about, you 

1033
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,280
know, people who you're kind of 
bringing into these kind of, you

1034
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,840
know, real life groups who are 
doing building and stuff like 

1035
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,040
that, right? 
When you when you actually tell 

1036
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,720
people, hey, we're going to, you
know, we're going to go out to 

1037
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,320
this guy's house, we're going to
go help him, you know, build 

1038
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,160
something or do something or 
whatever it is, right? 

1039
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,880
You know, it's the people who 
actually show up who sweat a 

1040
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,440
little bit, who put in the work,
who do all that kind of stuff, 

1041
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,440
right? 
Those, those are the guys you 

1042
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,560
want around. 
You also want the guys who when 

1043
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,720
you go out to the bar and they 
have a few drinks, they're not 

1044
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,800
going to start, you know, 
praising the painter publicly 

1045
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,840
or, you know, any of those kinds
of other things. 

1046
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,920
You want people who like know 
how to stay focused, be 

1047
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,360
practical, you know, build the 
relationships, all of that kind 

1048
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,560
of stuff. 
And. 

1049
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,760
You know, to be honest, there 
aren't a lot of them. 

1050
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,040
There aren't a lot of people who
are willing to make the 

1051
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,560
sacrifice of I might believe 
these things, but I'm also going

1052
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,320
to take action, right? 
It's I'm not just going to talk 

1053
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,960
about it online. 
And so those are the people that

1054
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,920
you got to find and those people
are, you know, worth their 

1055
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,280
weight in gold, right? 
Those, those good relationships,

1056
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,680
those those like actual action. 
You know, Dimes talks about this

1057
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,160
all the time. 
You just need three people to 

1058
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,680
topple in an NGO, you know, just
three good guys working together

1059
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,480
could completely throw a wrench 
in, you know, a lot of these, 

1060
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,320
you know, very 
counterproductive, you know, non

1061
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,040
government organizations and 
kind of stop them from doing 

1062
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,600
whatever they're doing. 
And I think we need to have that

1063
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,680
mindset of not waiting around 
for, you know, the, you know, 

1064
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,920
patriots in control. 
Trust the plan. 

1065
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,680
You know, everything will get 
figured out. 

1066
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,120
Just, you know, keep consuming 
Netflix and drinking beer and 

1067
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,640
don't worry about it. 
Like people need to realize the 

1068
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,480
cavalry isn't coming. 
You are the cavalry, right? 

1069
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,240
And that means going out and 
doing stuff. 

1070
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,920
And then the last thing to, to 
kind of point out you, you're 

1071
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,360
making the point like, you know,
you're, you're calling is to, 

1072
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,920
you know, to be the guy online, 
right, to, to have the takes. 

1073
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,040
And, and I think that that is, 
you know, that is really 

1074
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,160
important, right? 
Like we, we need those people as

1075
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,960
well, right? 
The way I think of this, and I 

1076
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,840
say this all the time, we need a
biodiversity of strategy, right?

1077
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,760
There's people who are going to 
see their opportunity to make 

1078
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,040
changes in the financial world. 
Some people are, it's going to 

1079
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,960
be in the agricultural sphere. 
Some people, it's the 

1080
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,920
educational sphere. 
Some people it's putting out, 

1081
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,600
you know, good literary content.
I was on GR Hudson's podcast 

1082
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,880
where we recorded one not so 
long ago on Snow Crash, right? 

1083
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,600
And through that, we got to have
a lot of interesting 

1084
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,560
conversations about all of these
other things. 

1085
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,920
But you know, it's you don't 
need people to do everything. 

1086
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,200
You don't need people to be both
the, you know, podcast guy and 

1087
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,720
the, you know, political leader 
and the, you know, bodybuilder 

1088
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,760
and all that, you know, these 
other things, right? 

1089
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,000
So what you need to do, and this
is when I, I wrote an article, 

1090
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,280
it's called the parallel 
movement and it kind of talks 

1091
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,120
about what is the parallel 
movement and how do you get 

1092
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,080
involved? 
The big thing that I tell people

1093
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,000
is like make yourself strong 
first, you know, figure out 

1094
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,200
where you want to contribute 
based on, you know, where are 

1095
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,960
your skills, where are your 
abilities, all that kind of 

1096
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,200
stuff. 
Dip your toe in lightly. 

1097
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,960
I think one of the worst things 
to do is to start to over commit

1098
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,040
to some sort of parallel group 
and then, you know, they they. 

1099
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,680
Put. 
Sorry about that. 

1100
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Some position of responsibility 
and then you, you're unable to, 

1101
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,280
you don't have the time or the 
energy or the discipline or 

1102
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,840
whatever it is. 
Yeah, I think that's that's 

1103
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,680
actually, that's actually a 
really big point. 

1104
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,560
Sorry to jump in for a SEC, but 
I think people, if you're, if 

1105
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,640
you're coming to this already, 
there's almost like a complete 

1106
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,800
package of modelling that people
will jump into and go, oh, I 

1107
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,080
want to be all these things, 
right? 

1108
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:19,040
It's like, look, man, you got to
the first step is really 

1109
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,600
realizing where you're at and 
what you need. 

1110
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,200
You know, how vulnerable are 
you? 

1111
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,400
What do you need to get certain 
things done? 

1112
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,320
Do you have to move? 
Do you have to do this? 

1113
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,680
Do you have to do like you got 
to figure out your fundamentals 

1114
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,320
and your and your baseline 
first. 

1115
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,400
And then once you got that kind 
of sorted out to to whatever 

1116
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,040
degree, then start building and 
do little things first. 

1117
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,520
I think the, the advice, I 
general advice I'd like to give 

1118
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,280
and it's, I don't, I'm not big 
on giving advice, but figure out

1119
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,920
what you're, what you're 
comfortable with at sucking for 

1120
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,680
a while. 
So you got to, you're going to 

1121
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,120
suck at it. 
You got to be like, OK, this I 

1122
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,600
don't mind sucking at for, you 
know, as long as I need to suck 

1123
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,960
at it in order to get good at 
it. 

1124
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,320
And I think that's, that's key 
because I think a lot of people 

1125
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,040
like you're like you're saying 
is that, and this is the myth of

1126
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,880
the individual where I have to 
be all these things. 

1127
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,960
And it's like, well, you might 
only end up ever being two of 

1128
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,680
those things of any kind of 
decent competency. 

1129
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:27,720
So, you know, really concentrate
on becoming competent and then 

1130
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,520
as many as in many things you 
can be competent in great. 

1131
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,840
And if he ends up being only one
decent thing, then that's OK 

1132
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,560
too. 
I'll kick it back to you, man. 

1133
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,400
But I'll just do a shout out to 
Super Chat $20 from Sergeant 

1134
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,240
Hodel. 
I don't like trooms, but 

1135
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,320
whatever, if but whatever if our
girls have one as a friend. 

1136
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,960
We all have friends with mental 
illness, Quite a bit of the 

1137
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,000
panic from the gropers etcetera 
gives off Ned Flanders vibes. 

1138
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,040
Which doesn't work because women
love dark triad. 

1139
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,520
I feel like there's some deep 
cuts that I'm not getting. 

1140
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,880
Yeah. 
Well, so this has been a common,

1141
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,200
this is, you know, what BAP has 
said. 

1142
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,720
Oh, well, you know, I'm just 
friends with the Red scare 

1143
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,440
people. 
And, you know, they have this 

1144
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,960
Troon and they're they're 
friends of friends. 

1145
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,960
So, you know, and I'm not going 
to like, you know, go after 

1146
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,520
friends of friends, blah, blah, 
blah, Right. 

1147
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,080
And it's like, OK, don't get me 
wrong. 

1148
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,520
And we were talking about this 
earlier, like I have compassion 

1149
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,480
for trans people in the sense 
that a lot of these people, you 

1150
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,320
know, they could have been, 
they're usually, you know, kind 

1151
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,920
of autistic. 
You know, they have their own 

1152
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,280
kind of ideas. 
They're they're kind of like 

1153
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,240
high energy individuals and, you
know, they just got psyopped 

1154
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,880
right into thinking that the 
answer for meeting in their 

1155
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,960
lives was this kind of the 
transhumanist kind of ideology. 

1156
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,920
And yeah, I mean, that's got to 
be fucking terrifying because I 

1157
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,880
think a lot of them realize, you
know, to some degree, you know, 

1158
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,760
to different degrees, like shit,
like I really fucked up my life.

1159
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,680
But so, so I, again, I have 
compassion for them, you know, 

1160
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,880
I, I, I hope they've kind of 
figured things out. 

1161
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,840
I am a very spiritual person and
like, you know, that kind of 

1162
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,560
sense. 
But the, the frustration I have 

1163
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,280
with that argument is, well, 
this isn't just some person 

1164
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,640
who's kind of like, you know, on
the sidelines just kind of 

1165
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,280
enjoying the scene. 
This is someone who got put in 

1166
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,680
the centerfold of Man's World 
and now on the fucking cover of 

1167
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,760
Christian Science Magazine, 
right? 

1168
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,280
This is, you know, this is 
someone who constantly posts 

1169
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,240
with. 
Christian Science magazine, 

1170
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,080
that's just that's that I didn't
know that and that's still I'm 

1171
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:41,440
my mind's still going. 
It's modelling folks, right. 

1172
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,400
This is the, this is the issue 
is that whether you understand 

1173
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,320
Gerard or know Gerard or 
whatever, or listen to my 

1174
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,920
podcast enough to get sort of a,
I'm sure understanding of 

1175
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,680
Gerard, because whatever we, 
whatever's presented as a model 

1176
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,600
will be modelled. 
So so yeah, you do have to have 

1177
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,680
a high degree of selection 
discernment on who gets to be in

1178
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:04,160
certain positions because those 
positions hold memetic value. 

1179
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,680
And there's going to be a lot of
people who are going to be like,

1180
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,360
I want to be like her, her, it, 
he it, whatever, right. 

1181
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,520
And if that becomes if, if the 
selection model selections in 

1182
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,920
the Dr. let's say, are including
some batshit crazy people, well,

1183
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,960
then you're just going to get a 
bunch of people modeling batshit

1184
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,480
crazy people. 
And what do you think the 

1185
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,720
results will be? 
Not good so. 

1186
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,960
Yeah. 
And and so that's the thing for 

1187
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,320
me is it's it's not like some 
friend of friend in the scene 

1188
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,720
hanging out kind of thing. 
It's this person is clearly 

1189
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:43,160
being made a figurehead, right. 
And Brianna Wu is clearly also 

1190
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,680
the figurehead of this kind of 
rebranding of the progressives 

1191
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,160
away from the radical 
progressives into this more 

1192
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,280
based progressive kind of 
mindset. 

1193
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,280
So, you know, it's, it's not, 
it's not innocent accidental 

1194
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,640
association. 
This is, this is seems to be 

1195
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:04,800
very intentional platforming, 
you know, at what level, you 

1196
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,480
know, for what reasons. 
You know, there's a lot of ways 

1197
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,240
you can talk about it. 
I mentioned at one point, one of

1198
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,160
the ways I like to explain this 
is kind of like the vaccine 

1199
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,040
conspiracy theory stuff where 
it's like at the very high level

1200
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,359
to ignore me, you can just say 
look like they, you know, were 

1201
01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:23,120
greedy and they rushed it out 
and they cut corners and, you 

1202
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,399
know, maybe they were fearful 
and that's very understandable 

1203
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,080
why they kind of did bad stuff. 
On a deeper level, you can say, 

1204
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,120
oh, you know, it's 5G nanobots, 
They're trying to like zombify 

1205
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,600
you, bro, or whatever it is, 
right? 

1206
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,359
The truth is probably somewhere 
in the middle. 

1207
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:41,680
And it's the same thing here is 
it's very clearly at the, at the

1208
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,720
most basic level, it's it's a 
movement for more popularity, 

1209
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,120
exposure, notoriety. 
At a deeper level, it's you know

1210
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,600
who, who knows, right? 
Well, you know, you can, you can

1211
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,359
talk about where is the money 
coming from and all that kind of

1212
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,600
stuff. 
But I think the bottom, like the

1213
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,960
again, the relevant take away 
for a lot of people is just you 

1214
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,319
can't, you can't trust people 
who are willing to compromise 

1215
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:05,000
their values or you can't see 
them as, you know, promoting the

1216
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,920
ultimate good that we all should
be aspiring to. 

1217
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,160
And you did a great job of 
articulating just earlier. 

1218
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,720
It's the, the true, the good and
the beautiful, right? 

1219
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,240
It's it's being involved, it's 
living your life. 

1220
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:17,000
It's, you know, being immersed 
in who you are as a human being.

1221
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,000
And again, that's not going to 
be the cool, sexy stuff. 

1222
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,920
And I think that makes it very 
easy for you to pick out the 

1223
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,720
people who are doing the right, 
you know, you know, hitting the 

1224
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,760
right notes, so to speak, 
because they're not doing it 

1225
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,479
because it's cool and sexy and, 
you know, trendy at the time 

1226
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,800
they're doing it because that's 
what they really believe is 

1227
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,200
going to help move the needle. 
And so I think if people have 

1228
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,200
that sense of awareness, it's 
it's going to help them too. 

1229
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,080
Because this is kind of the last
point I'll make here is I 

1230
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,479
believe there's a bunch of like 
untapped player character 

1231
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,359
individuals hanging out. 
You know, they're they're 

1232
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,400
society's got them down, they're
frustrated, they're angry, 

1233
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,360
right? 
But if you give them the right 

1234
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,320
frame of mind, the right 
motivation, the right 

1235
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,680
encouragement, the right goals 
to Orient themselves towards, 

1236
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,600
they can kind of be these, you 
know, untapped heroes, right? 

1237
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,600
These people who then, you know,
get involved and move the needle

1238
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,240
in little ways. 
It doesn't need to be a lot of 

1239
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,560
guys, but you know, we we need 
to make sure that path, that 

1240
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,760
beacon of what people should be 
aiming for is clear and that 

1241
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,320
path is lit. 
And you know, my main concern is

1242
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,600
all of the rush into, you know, 
kind of, you know, colonize this

1243
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,280
thought space and and, you know,
grift off of it. 

1244
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,440
It's going to make that that 
space very muddled and and hard 

1245
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:40,360
to see that path forward. 
Very well said. 

1246
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:45,440
OK, ladies and gentlemen, Madame
Messrs, that brings us to the 

1247
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,920
end of the show. 
Meta let the people know where 

1248
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,480
they can get access to you and 
your work and we'll we'll sign 

1249
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,000
out. 
Yeah, sounds good. 

1250
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,200
So if if you like this 
conversation, so I'm mostly on 

1251
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,440
X. 
So at Metaprime 001. 

1252
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,960
I also have a website 
itsmetaprime001.com. 

1253
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,200
I have sub stack of the same 
name. 

1254
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,920
If you find me on X, you can 
find all my content through 

1255
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,280
there. 
I have a podcast called the 

1256
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,120
Metacast. 
I haven't put out anything 

1257
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,640
recently. 
I've been travelling have the 

1258
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,720
next podcast episode I'm putting
out is actually with fairly 

1259
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,280
famous YouTube creator home math
very based, cool guy. 

1260
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,000
So very much looking forward to 
to putting that out for for the 

1261
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,720
masses. 
We kind of tackle the the woman 

1262
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,680
questioned a little bit, but 
really it's more about, you 

1263
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,600
know, his kind of awakening path
through that and trying to 

1264
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,000
spread more intentionality. 
A lot of the good stuff we've 

1265
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,640
talked about here. 
And then I do put out articles 

1266
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,720
on the sub stack. 
A lot of the website is meant to

1267
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,800
kind of contain Evergreen 
content around the journey, how 

1268
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,200
to break from the mainstream 
delusion, enter the parallel 

1269
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,320
movement. 
But yeah. 

1270
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,320
And then at the last thing I 
always like to say when when 

1271
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,720
kind of talking about the 
content is, you know, if you're,

1272
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,720
if any of this resonates with 
you, if you want to get involved

1273
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,080
or whatever, like DM me, you 
know, my DMS are open. 

1274
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,120
I think that, you know, it's 
funny how much I say this and 

1275
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,120
yet, you know, I only get a few 
people reach out, but they're 

1276
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,120
always great conversations. 
There's always something going 

1277
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,400
on. 
And, you know, so it's, and 

1278
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,680
usually the people who are 
motivated to do so are, you 

1279
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,280
know, they're people worth 
talking to as well. 

1280
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,240
So yeah, don't, don't hesitate, 
reach out, you know, build 

1281
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,760
connections with your mutuals 
'cause I think that is 

1282
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,800
definitely how we win. 
Ladies and gentlemen, we serious

1283
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,520
thanks again for watching 
listings like share, subscribe, 

1284
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,080
do all the things you listen to 
us on audio. 

1285
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,240
God bless. 
Write us a comment, you know, 

1286
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,600
help help out with any way which
way you can help promote this 

1287
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,320
show and of course all the 
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1288
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,560
have a few extra shekels through
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1289
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:51,320
whoever's way and help keep the 
lights on for this movement. 

1290
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,560
I appreciate each and everyone 
of you and thanks again. 

1291
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,560
We will talk to you again soon. 
I always forget to do this 

1292
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:28,040
the.