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Hi, Thomas. 

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Hello. 
Hey, congratulations on your new

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mug sponsor. 
I see that that's how's that 

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working out for you. 
It's fine. 

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I, I, I don't know, murder made 
well, but I mean, I, I have, 

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I've talked to him online before
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happy that he respects my 
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write is making an impact. 
So, yeah, I mean that's that's 

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all very positive. 
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on Tucker, he mentioned that the
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Nuremberg regime essentially 
made being right wing illegal. 

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And I believe that's a direct 
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I don't know if you put a bit of
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that's kind of what I brought 
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We originally, I wanted to get 
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I think things of heat are 
starting to heat up to to the 

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degree that we can do that post 
election, maybe sometime the new

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year if we're all still around. 
So Thomas, if you wouldn't mind,

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I know you've talked about this 
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Shout out to Pete Cononas and 
your amazing work over there. 

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I know you've talked about this 
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believe you've done a separate 
Nuremberg series, but maybe you 

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could lay the groundwork for 
people who are just being on 

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boarded to this term. 
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around that I think we may can 
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regime and and the post 
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aside people are using Post 
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because it's, you know, it 
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we're still stuck in it. 
This kind of goes into what some

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of the things I've said, which 
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the 20th century and it's time 
to stop that because it's, it's,

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it's retarded and I'm, I'm, I, 
I'll know I'm, I'm in heaven 

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when I, when I, I don't, I can 
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hearing some retarded Hitler 
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talking, talking about 1984 or 
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So with that all said, if you 
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audience a bit of a primer on 
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narrative and or narrative and 
then maybe we can go from there.

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All right. 
I can't really drop a capsule 

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summary because it's it's too 
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I mean, a way to, I don't 
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The modern state is not this day
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perennial structure that you 
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whether it's, you know, the 
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where civilization started or 
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proto Indo European culture, you
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that, you know, whatever it is. 
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we think of it, that that was 
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17th century. 
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the peace Westphalia, which is 
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but that that that that created 
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national States and it 
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any super national actor. 
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imperial mandate, whether it 
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the Vatican, you know, whether 
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of, of elements, you know, that 
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religious and, or secular 
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assert their power. 
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that was the state system as it 
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accepted that, you know, warfare
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national policy. 
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like a basic moral consensus 
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the states that who sovereignty 
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and this basically endured until
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implemented strategic bombing 
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Germany. 
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Dunkirk and like, why, why on 
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Expeditionary force to retreat? 
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failing custom, OK between 
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All right, Obviously this is 
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Soviet Union had declared that 
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any international law paradigm 
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you know, there were the regime,
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signatory to that, you know, 
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longer. 
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inclusion of the Second World 
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surviving members of what could 
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group of the executive 
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were hailed into court. 
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war itself was a kind of 
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these men who had had unleashed 
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various machinations and 
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you know, to, to capture power 
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you know, dominate global 
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indictment, you know, if one 
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you know, mass homicide 
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Jewry. 
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sense. 
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terms of an effort to establish 
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whereby only the United States 
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would be privileged in within 
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activity to pursue armed 
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the power political problems or,
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always axiomatically attend 
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OK, very rapidly the Concorde 
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the Soviet Union fell apart. 
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you know, intermittent proxy 
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determine like what form 
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OK, so now the body of 
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mythology upon which America 
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context in which it presents its
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illegal. 
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exclusive rights and Israel of 
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military solutions to the power 
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It's, it's never legitimate for 
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pursue, to resort to warfare 
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Israel, the political right 
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the 20th century as a, a 
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liberalism and and communism. 
Is, is literally a criminal 

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conspiracy. 
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scale axiomatically leads to 
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and and, and and and and 
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conspiratorial and unprovoked 
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humans sin within the sphere of 
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as political and character. 
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could be considered evil within 
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attributed to, you know, the 
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it would be the most extreme 
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which is, is, is, is fascism, 
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So at the core isn't just a 
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international order is based on 
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theology, like literally like a 
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fascism, you know, like that's, 
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that. 
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down in like 10 or 20. 
You got to chill out. 

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You need to calm down, You need 
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way or the other by each new 
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purpose of the news drops. 
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are to demoralize and fracture 
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That's the purpose of them. 

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So when the regime does 
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choosing to be demoralized by it
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You can't. 
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opposed to the regime 'cause 
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proxy. 
This is the way they recruit you

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is by demoralizing you, by 
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that's something they can work 
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They can feed off of that energy
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So stop fucking black killing. 
No, I think that's fair. 

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And I mean, obviously. 
And you, you know, you've done 

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countless numbers of shows on 
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So I direct the audience to go 
check out those. 

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I don't want to rub Pete's 
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And again, like you said, you 
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you know, dozens if not more 
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because we're in a situation now
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anyways, that's I think rapidly 
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can't, you couldn't get out. 
You couldn't have any kind of 

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political conversation about 
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limitations to, to liberalism 
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And of course the Germans and 
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most horrible, awful people. 
I just heard someone do this 

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today on a feed and it's 
embarrassing. 

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It's embarrassing, It's 
embarrassing that any of us 

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accepted this crap from the from
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And it's embarrassing that you 
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head into geopolitics, that 
you're playing good guy, bad 

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guy. 
Like I, I I call it a Saturday 

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morning cartoon. 
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Let's also someone that should 
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And again, I don't I mean, to 
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analysis, it's it's not a 
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identifying who's a bad guy and 
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body counts or something. 
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who you know, he his two books 
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Soviet system for like the scope
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his one book, the the Arctic 
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like the great terror, you know,
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the German border came down, You
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96 when the FSB was willing to 
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historians, other people who, 
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know, be allowed to review 
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You know, this is this is how 
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gerbil's Diaries, you know, But 
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estimates were actually low. 
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which I mean, the Soviet Union 
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exterminated 10 million people 
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too. 
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enterprise is is staggering. 
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and again, I it's your point, 
it's misguided. 

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The the check, you know, hand 
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different political actors, but 
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don't get to clutch your pearls 
about how you know, the Empire 

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of Japan or the Third Reich was,
you know, the most evil state 

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that ever existed when really, I
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It dwarfs like all other 
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series of events that, you know,
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scale, at mega scale, literally,
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subjective, like categorical 
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You know, I've had people say 
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guy on Twitter. 
I I guess he's some kind of like

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liberal theologian. 
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that oh, well, yeah, well, the 
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it's, it's way worse to if 
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exterminating people because of 
code racism. 

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I'm like, what? 
What difference does it make? 

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First of all, what does that 
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I mean, it's not that simple 
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Like, I mean, obviously there's 
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between the third were like in 
European Jewry and and there was

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like mass casualties, but there 
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who served in the bear box. 
Obviously it was more 

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complicated than this guy was 
this guy's allowing. 

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But it's like, so if I, if I 
killed 10 million, like, you 

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know, non combatants, including 
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they're a class enemy, that's 
like less bad than if I do it 

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because they're of of their of 
their ethnic heritage. 

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Like that does I mean that 
that's not how humans value 

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things. 
Everything else aside, But it's 

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there's these bizarre. 
That's why I say it's, it's, 

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it's a it's a theological 
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it's, it's, it's, it's totally 
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You know, it's just Adolf Hitler
is Satan. 

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You know, the epitome of many 
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that can be called fascism. 
The the facts don't matter, You 

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know, the actual kind of 
variables that, you know, gave 

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rise to these historical 
conditions that led to these 

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horrors don't matter. 
This is just the way it is, you 

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know, So, yeah, it doesn't have 
a way to stand on. 

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And when I. 
Well, that that's why, too. 

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When you run across guys, and 
I'll hand it back to him a 

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minute, you know, whether it's. 
And then it's talking about like

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midwives, like, like Victor 
Davis Hanson. 

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I call him venereal disease 
Hanson because he's he has all 

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the charm of chlamydia and he, 
he's never had like an original 

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thought in his life. 
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an easy target because he's such
a midwick. 

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But there's other guys like many
such cases. 

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Yeah. 
But there's other guys like Paul

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Johnson, who's actually like a 
really good historian. 

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But then, you know, he'll get 
into and he doesn't have these 

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prejudices about like any other 
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Like he'll talk about like the 
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and the war against the Apaches.
You know, these are like real, 

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like race wars. 
But he like doesn't sugarcoat 

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in. 
He doesn't pretend like, oh, 

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this is the evil white man 
oppressing this, you know, 

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these, these, these people in 
harmony with nature. 

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Like there's nothing like that. 
But then when it gets to World 

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War 2, it's oh, but of course, 
you know, the Soviet Union was 

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quote, UN quote, bad, but it, it
paled in a person, you know, 

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quote, Nazi evil. 
So then like a lot of what he 

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says subsequent like doesn't 
make any sense about the 20th 

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century because he's got this 
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theological commitment that's 
totally at odds with with 

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reason. 
And it doesn't make sense, you 

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know, in terms of in terms of, 
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identifying, you know, kind of 
the nature of of ideological 

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warfare and how war became 
total. 

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You know, and I made the point 
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really by 1965, this whole 
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any like moral force or weight 
that it had. 

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You know, I mean, it was it was 
standing American policy as well

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as, you know, that of the Warsaw
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general war. 
We were prepared, capable and 

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willing to kill 80 million 
Russians. 

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I mean, that was the victory 
metric. 

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And nuclear war is assured 
destruction is the tipping point

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at which the enemy can no longer
reconstitute. 

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That breaks down to killing 
about 2/3 of an enemy society. 

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OK. 
I mean, so you can't. 

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Well, once that was openly 
bandied about in policy 

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corridors, like you can't just 
whatever internal logic this 

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paradigm may have had just just 
evaporated. 

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But yeah, I'm I'm rambling 
though, so I'll get it back to 

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you. 
No, no, I think I think there's 

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there's some really good inroads
to this. 

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I mean, we're looking at the 
current situation in Ukraine and

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I feel that that is both. 
That is basically the intent by 

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the people who have pushed 
Ukraine into this into the 

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suicide pact where 2/3 were were
getting very thing very close to

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2/3 of of of ethnic Ukrainians 
being either wiped out or 

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completely displaced, 
permanently displaced and so 

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that they can sell off or. 
Repopulate, let's say, that area

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with whomever they like, 
whomever they want, and that 

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that was will become the new 
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So it'll be very interesting to 
see, you know, black Africans 

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calling themselves Ukrainian. 
I'll be like, really my 

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Ukrainian brother. 
Well, that's, that's, that's 

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interesting. 
I mean, meanwhile Internet guys 

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will claim that they're based on
right wing's. 

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They wear like little swastikas,
just like so Winston. 

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Right. 
Yeah, Yeah, I will. 

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This is this is the this is 
where we're getting to, I think 

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with the narrative collapsing. 
I just did a talk with Stormy 

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Waters talking specifically 
about some financial situations 

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that are coming to a head. 
I'll send you that file. 

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Actually, if you haven't checked
it out, I think you should 

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listen to that. 
One of the things he came to in 

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their discussion was that the, 
the unraveling of the economic 

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sector right now and this sort 
of suicide pact that the, that 

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Europe tried to get America to 
sign or cosign and explains a 

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lot of the trajectory right now 
is essentially the, the, the 

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Nuremberg or post Nuremberg 
economy and, or financial 

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system. 
And that is, you know, we of 

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course talk a lot about the Jews
and the Zionists and etcetera. 

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But to give them a, a, a little 
bit of a of a break here, it's 

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not just the Jews, you know, if 
you, if you get these blinders 

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on. 
And this is kind of one of the 

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things I've been trying to 
address with the show. 

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And I'm going to make it much 
more poignant now because the 

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time for fucking around is over 
and the time for for Saturday 

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morning cartoon logic is over. 
We need to start moving forward 

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and we need to start moving 
forward fast. 

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And as you keep saying, you 
know, the we, we are the 1%. 

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Are you representative with the 
Vanguard? 

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And not just physically, but 
mentally. 

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And I want to weed out anybody 
who can't hang because if you're

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not meant for this man, it's 
cool. 

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But you got to stop being around
the space. 

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Like you got to go because 
you're you're sucking up is 

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you're sucking a bear. 
And yeah, that's why, yeah, 

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that's why I gatekeep very hard.
And I think it's imperative. 

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Yeah. 
The it's, it's a topic for 

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another show, probably because 
it's it, it warrants involved 

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discussion. 
But I mean, I remember, you 

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know, back in, back in like the 
2000s, like the Germans like 

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sent Goldman Sachs packing 
because like we don't invest in 

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derivatives. 
And they were trying to get 

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these German firms to, you know,
tie up their equity, you know, 

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with with Goldman Sachs's 
portfolio. 

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And they and they like laughed 
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the the Europeans gutting their.
I mean, it's just obviously it 

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was like the ongoing occupation 
and America carrying out little 

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terrorist attacks on German 
infrastructure. 

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But the way, you know, I make 
the point again and again and 

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people being a people having 
blinders on, they don't realize 

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that that that misses Merkel was
the she was the only consular 

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worth of shit other than coal, 
like since the war. 

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And, you know, she was trying to
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you know, Germany from this, 
this the slavery of of usury. 

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And that's been, that's, that's 
been totally destroyed. 

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You know, the sort of binding 
is, I do think, I mean, the, the

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Germans aren't going to tolerate
some kind of general war with 

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Russia. 
I mean, that's preposterous 

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anyways. 
Not the manpower, the political 

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will or, or the, the munitions 
of hardware to, to carry that 

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out. 
But the, I mean, people, you 

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know, it's, it's like Afd is, is
pulling away that it is. 

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I mean, don't be wrong. 
Like if, if Afd continues to 

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breakthrough, they'll just be 
banned. 

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My point is that there's limits 
to what the occupation regime 

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can do, you know, and, and the 
Germans aren't going to commit 

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suicide alongside Ukraine for, 
you know, some, some Zionist 

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war. 
So I mean, that's, that's 

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Yeah, this, I mean, this is 
getting getting us to the 

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current situation. 
Russia. 

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As of this recording, Putin has 
made a statement yet again, 

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warning there's been two 
statements made, one out of the 

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one out of the Biden White 
House. 

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And then a response from Putin 
essentially boils down to that 

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America and its NATO allies are 
considering, and we might have 

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news about this very shortly, 
about allowing Ukraine to launch

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missile strikes deep into 
Russian territory. 

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Putin's response on this is 
pretty chilling. 

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What he said is that, look, we 
know that Ukraine can't strike 

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these targets without US 
satellites and Intel. 

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We also know that that Ukraine 
can't, there's no Ukrainian army

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left who can actually operate 
these weapon systems with any 

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degree of efficiency. 
So that leads us to believe that

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that NATO personnel are manning 
these. 

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Not only are you supplying the 
weapons and the delivery systems

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and the Intel, but you're firing
them as well, which is then 

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we're going to declare this NATO
entering the war against Russia,

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which would kick off a much 
larger conflict. 

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Well, yeah, he has no choice. 
I mean, he these munitions to. 

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I mean, the big problem Ukraine 
has right now, I mean, there's 

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there's no military path to 
victory for Ukraine. 

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So there's there's there's none 
and there never was. 

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But there never was. 
Yeah. 

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Within, within this within like 
the kind of bound, the 

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irrationality of what they're 
doing. 

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They're trying this this bizarre
kind of deployment to curse. 

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Makes bounded sense if you 
realize that the Kharkov front, 

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if the Kharkov front collapses 
like like they can't pretend 

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that Ukraine's in the game 
anymore. 

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And the big thing that's 
hurting, the big thing that's 

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killing Ukraine army is a 
Russian artillery and and 

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they're pounding these positions
with the thermobaric munition, 

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which are devastating. 
So start opening up this front 

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in Kursk where apparently 
they've lost somewhere in the 

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ballpark at 10,000 men, which is
insane in a. 

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Week they lost majority of those
in a week. 

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Yeah, it's totally insane. 
But the you know, there's no way

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they believe that like, OK, 
well, this, you know, this, this

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army group and curse is going 
to, is going to or army grouping

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army group is going to fight, is
going to like fight on reverse 

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fronts, you know, an assault the
Russian main line of resistance 

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from the rear and, and like for 
some kind of Russian surrender. 

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Like obviously, like nobody 
thinks that even totally 

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delusional people like Blinken 
or or like Zelensky. 

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So it's enough for it's, it's 
like a desperate kind of rigor 

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action. 
It'll take pressure off the car 

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cop front and score like literal
headlines and clout. 

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We're like, oh, see, we're we're
still in the game. 

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We're we're launching offensives
into Russia and it curse no 

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less. 
But when you start deploying 

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what really brought the Cold War
to the brink in the final cycle 

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of the Paradigm was a 
intermediate range ballistic 

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missiles and ground loss ground 
launch cruise missiles in on the

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German border because they could
they could reach Moscow in 5 

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minutes. 
OK, so you're talking about a 

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hypersonic ignition being 
deployed in Ukraine. 

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Even if they're like basically 
the metric, it seems kind of 

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arbitrary. 
But for treaty purposes as well 

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as like military science 
purposes, a tactical nuclear 

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warhead is like anything. 
It is basically like the special

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is like 5 kilotons. 
OK, if you're with all these 

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weapon systems, they could be 
married to a nuclear warhead 

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like in NITS. 
You cannot have you, you can't, 

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you can't have these theater 
based missile platforms in 

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Ukraine. 
You you can't have that. 

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And like no, no Russian 
executive would tolerate that. 

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So if like the British are going
to show up with these platforms 

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and like advisors, like, yeah, 
I, you're Putin is correct, 

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that's an act of war. 
And if they start popping these 

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off and killing Russian people, 
that warrants that that that 

445
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warrants returning to serve by 
assaulting the UK. 

446
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,840
I mean, it's just a fact, you 
know, whether Putin would have 

447
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,880
the will or not to do it if he 
didn't, he may well be removed 

448
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,760
from office and some and a man 
who who does have the will will 

449
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760
take his place. 
You know, I don't, I think this 

450
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,440
is just cap. 
I think it's bullshit because I,

451
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,480
I can't believe that even the 
State Department is that stupid 

452
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,280
or that this kind of even this 
silly guy and his his Prime 

453
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,560
Minister always looks like he's 
always about to cry, like at 

454
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240
all. 
I, I, I, I, I don't believe even

455
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:53,760
he is like that delusional, but 
+2 like it's not going to help 

456
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,800
the Ukrainians. 
Again. 

457
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,320
It's like, what's your objective
here? 

458
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,200
Is your objective just to is 
your objective just to keep on? 

459
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,440
I mean, the one thing that 
whatever there was this problem 

460
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,920
is their, their problems are 
legion. 

461
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,680
They can handle attrition 
basically indefinitely. 

462
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,720
So I mean, like, what's your 
objective? 

463
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,120
You're going to you're you're 
going to escalate potentially 

464
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:23,040
with theater wide conflicts just
to continue to kind of, you 

465
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,560
know, like kill Russians on the 
Ukrainian frontier and in these 

466
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,080
kind of suicide operations like 
Kursk. 

467
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,240
I mean, I don't, you know, I 
made the point at the outset of 

468
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080
hostilities, like, I mean, years
back now, I mean, where does the

469
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,920
time go? 
But there's no such thing as 

470
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,560
NATO unless Biden or whatever 
cipher is in the White House and

471
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,320
put in a call to Berlin order 
the whoever the consular is to 

472
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,960
mobilize all military age males.
They'll then do that. 

473
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,960
The Germans will deploy combined
arms to the combat zone to 

474
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,520
assault the Russian Federation, 
including use of biological and 

475
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,720
nuclear weapons if necessary. 
You know, they'll absorb a 

476
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,800
million casualties if they have 
to, and they'll continue to push

477
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
into Russian territory to 
annihilate their importance to 

478
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,000
the Russian Federation and 
prevent their ability to 

479
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520
reconstitute. 
There is absolutely no chance of

480
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,520
that happening. 
There is no chance of that 

481
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,840
happening. 
And a friend of mine who is down

482
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,920
range and he was using the 
Marine Corps in the infantry, 

483
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,400
then he was in naval 
intelligence. 

484
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,560
You know, he never talked in 
any. 

485
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,280
Suddenly he pointed out to me, 
he's like, you know, at the peak

486
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:50,640
of AUS attrition in Iraq, about 
19 Army infantrymen were going 

487
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,360
down a week. 
And it was like straining things

488
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,840
to the breaking point. 
OK, so you're going to fight the

489
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Russian Federation when you 
can't take more than like 20 

490
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640
casualties a week, like in your 
infantry arm? 

491
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Really. 
I mean, that's, that's not 

492
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,880
reality, you know, and nobody, 
nobody thinks that's reality and

493
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,320
nobody thinks that the Germans 
are going to are going to wage. 

494
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,960
No one thinks the Germans are 
going to take a million dead to 

495
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,560
fight the Russians. 
And you know, or that the 

496
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,679
capability there exists. 
I mean the Russians, the Germans

497
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,400
haven't the Germans have some 
high speed, low drag like 

498
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,280
special operations types and 
like police types. 

499
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,560
They've they've been handling a 
conventional combined arms 

500
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:45,199
capability in depth since 1990. 
Then they have it, it doesn't 

501
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,920
exist. 
But that was probably good in a 

502
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,520
tangent, but that's. 
No, I think it's it ties into we

503
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,840
mean I've had you on the show 
talking about Russia before and 

504
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,400
we've I've talked about it 
numerous times since they kick 

505
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,360
off this of the conflict. 
And I've said, we've said you 

506
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,320
and I have said, I remember 
getting, getting kickback on 

507
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,480
this where I said, you know, now
NATO has the failure of NATO is 

508
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
complete because now they have 
made Russia the, the most 

509
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,240
powerful standing army in the 
world because of the experience 

510
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:18,320
they've had. 
So now you have what? 

511
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,320
Now I think the numbers are 
roughly around 300,000, let's 

512
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,200
say between 3 and 400,000 ground
troops and personnel who, who 

513
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,880
have been fighting a hot war 
against NATO and against, 

514
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,640
against, you know, modern 
weaponry and have massive 

515
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480
amounts of combat experience 
from everyone from the grunts to

516
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,360
the generals. 
So anyone you send in there is a

517
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,320
meat grinder because you're 
going to spend like Poland, 

518
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,520
like, because. 
And what really upsets me is 

519
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,840
that people keep falling back 
into these bullshit narratives. 

520
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440
And we'll get back to that maybe
with the to tie it up with the 

521
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120
the Nuremberg narrative. 
You hear things like this is 

522
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,200
coming out of Ukraine that all 
those you know, those plucky 

523
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,680
Ukrainians, you know, they're 
Ukrainian spirits lava Ukraine. 

524
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Yeah, they're they're they're 
going to will their way to win. 

525
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,160
And one note I said here is like
it's wind conditions that don't 

526
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,240
make any sense. 
It never made any sense. 

527
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,560
No. 
And I think going. 

528
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Forward to it, Yeah. 
Like the point of warfare is not

529
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,280
to just like keep keep 
conducting it for as long as 

530
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
possible. 
And the Ukrainians also, it's 

531
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,080
not like they're in the position
that like the Croats were in 95.

532
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Like it's not like Ukraine, it's
not like there's like this kind 

533
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,960
of hostile Russian army in the 
Donbass and there's, you know, a

534
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,360
90% of the population like 
identifies as Ukrainian and like

535
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,600
hates the fact that they're 
under occupation. 

536
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,960
It's like literally the precise 
opposite of that. 

537
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,720
So it's like, let's say the 
Ukrainian army tomorrow, by some

538
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,760
miracle, it like reconstituted 
as this like, you know, totally 

539
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,200
cutting edge force. 
And it just like it just like 

540
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040
smashed like through the Russian
mainline of resistance at 

541
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Karkov. 
And you know, like, by some 

542
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,520
miracle, like push the Russians 
back, you know, to, you know, 

543
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,720
across the their own frontier. 
Like, what are you going to do? 

544
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,960
Are you going to like ethnically
cleanse the Don Bass? 

545
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,440
I mean, you're going to like 
kill everybody there who speaks 

546
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Russian? 
I mean, like what? 

547
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,840
Like even even if, even if it 
was militarily possible to, you 

548
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,920
know, to liberate eastern 
Ukraine, you know, break the 

549
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,840
back of the of the Ivans, 
prevent them from 

550
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,560
reconstituting. 
But like the and then, then 

551
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,360
like, what would you do? 
I mean, would you, would, would 

552
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,320
you do what the Serbs did then, 
you know, in, in these, in these

553
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,880
Muslim and crud territories? 
I'm not like bashing Serbian 

554
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,400
people. 
I mean, it was this is what 

555
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,080
happened. 
You know, you're going to like 

556
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,280
ethnically cleanse the Donbass 
of everybody who speaks Russian.

557
00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:01,120
I mean, I, you know, there's not
there was never, you know, this,

558
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680
this is a rare example. 
Like I said before, like totally

559
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,320
rationality. 
And yeah, I the Russians. 

560
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,040
I mean, it's time, the fact that
it's kind of sick to just to 

561
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,640
clear like, well, our policy is 
to kind of just keep throwing 

562
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,560
the hardware and ammo and and 
weapon systems and and human 

563
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,480
beings were treating as pawns 
into this battle space to to 

564
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,960
kind of harass the Russians. 
But it's like, again, I mean 

565
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,600
like the the Russians can 
indefinitely absorb attrition 

566
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,880
and it's, you know, at that 
level, I mean, I and +2 it's 

567
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,800
like if you're gay, if you're 
jive, which I mean, idiotic is 

568
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360
in AB. 
I mean, I'll just for the sake 

569
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,320
of argument, if it blinkens 
jive, it's like, oh, well, 

570
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,160
eventually people will turn 
against United Russia and Putin.

571
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,440
It's like not if you're pointing
hypersonic missiles at them from

572
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,920
300 kilometers away. 
Like it's, it's like saying like

573
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,040
I'll, you know, if I it says 
that's like saying I go to work 

574
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,160
tomorrow and start pointing a 
gun at people. 

575
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080
They'll be my friend. 
You know what I mean? 

576
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,160
It's like it's, it's totally at 
odds of human nature. 

577
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,960
And you know, you, there's 
certain, again, I'm not sure 

578
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,000
people understand this. 
I'm not, and that's not an 

579
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:26,560
expert in rocketry or, or like 
modern avionics or, or, or field

580
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160
artillery or anything. 
But I, I don't, I'm not sure 

581
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,200
most people like grassy 
locations are deploying these 

582
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,920
kinds of theater based missile 
platforms, you know, literally 

583
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,840
like a couple 100 kilometers 
away from the capital city of 

584
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,400
another country. 
I mean, that's, that's a mortal 

585
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,640
threat to potentially millions 
of people. 

586
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,840
You know, you cannot tolerate 
it. 

587
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,600
You absolutely cannot tolerate 
it. 

588
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:58,960
I mean, it's not Kennedy didn't 
Kennedy didn't almost go 

589
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,280
nuclear, go to, you know, go to 
DEFCON one with the Soviet 

590
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,800
Union. 
It's a as a flex. 

591
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:10,840
OK, You you cannot allow. 
You, you cannot allow those, 

592
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,200
those kinds of munitions to be, 
to be platformed on your 

593
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,720
literally on your own frontier. 
You know, whether it's 90 miles 

594
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,320
away in Cuba, whether it's, you 
know, a couple 100 kilometers 

595
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:27,640
away in Ukraine, whether you 
know, in, in, in the, in the, in

596
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,760
the modern era, like in military
terms after about the 1970s, I 

597
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,320
mean, you couldn't tolerate such
a deployment at the inner German

598
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,000
border. 
If you're the Russians, you 

599
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
know, this isn't, there's 
nothing to do with like Putin 

600
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,160
or, or like whatever boogeyman 
people have in mind. 

601
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,440
Like no, no Russian executive 
would, would or could tolerate 

602
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,320
that. 
Like whatever is political 

603
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,120
stripe, it just can't be 
tolerated, you know, and not for

604
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,480
people to realize. 
That I think the other thing 

605
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,200
people are missing is that you 
know and this and this came out 

606
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,240
with a stormy talk is that 
George Bush junior sorry, first 

607
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,400
few years at his presidency. 
I mean, he was being essentially

608
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,520
directed by the Carlisle Group 
through his dad who was working,

609
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640
who has been working with them 
and was very friendly with the 

610
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Carlisle Group who had bought up
People Don't know. 

611
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,000
At the end of the Cold War, Carl
went and bought pretty much all 

612
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,240
of the independent military 
contractors that were starting 

613
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,680
to go bankrupt because the Cold 
War was over and a lot of their 

614
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,280
services weren't needed. 
They bought all that up, of 

615
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,520
course Rally during Desert Storm
and the idea when with with 

616
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Junior was was about all about 
ballistic missiles and building 

617
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,160
an Iron Dome Star Wars, right. 
This is a continuation the 

618
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,880
Reagan regime, you know, late 
stage Reagan and then some 

619
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,920
dancing Jews happened and that 
kind of derailed things for for 

620
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,920
about 20 years. 
It's back now and The Carlyle 

621
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,840
Group is flexing. 
This is why I believe and I made

622
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,520
the statement. 
And then people can can, you 

623
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,480
know, at me if this doesn't turn
out to be the truth. 

624
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,960
But Trump is going to be 
installed. 

625
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,360
All this, everything else right 
now is just, it's just song and 

626
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,200
dance. 
And there will be no more. 

627
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,720
Yeah. 
My buddy Jay Burton, that's his 

628
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,880
take also. 
And like I, he may be right. 

629
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,920
I mean, I made a point. 
I don't want to get in an 

630
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,280
argument or not with you, but I 
want to get into a discussion 

631
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,160
about like Peter Thiel and what 
whatever I think of him, like 

632
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,760
whatever Thiel's, whatever his 
issues, like he's not, he's not 

633
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,120
a dummy and he's certainly not 
just going to like throw money 

634
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,000
at stuff like for appearance 
sake. 

635
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,040
And I mean, he's he's been 
dumping a shit load of money 

636
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,560
into Trump's coffers. 
And I don't think Trump has any 

637
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,240
money. 
Like it's not something like 

638
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:43,080
slam on Trump, but I, you know, 
like, like burden also pointed 

639
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,720
out, I mean, you know, Trump has
a lot of assets. 

640
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,760
I don't I don't think he's got 
like liquid capital. 

641
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,520
I think he's broke, you know, 
and he's that, you know, that 

642
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,520
that means he'd basically be 
like this campaign wouldn't be 

643
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,240
like Trump wouldn't be, he 
wouldn't be be able to stage 

644
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:04,720
this campaign. 
We're not for these like Silicon

645
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:09,000
Valley guys and these and the 
and these war tech guys. 

646
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,760
Your point? 
They're like war tech adjacent 

647
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
guys, you know, like, like 
basically like paying for the 

648
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,840
whole show. 
And it's like what? 

649
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360
And again, like, what are they? 
What are they going to say about

650
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,040
these people? 
They're not they're not stupid 

651
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520
about money. 
Like they're just like burning 

652
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,080
money to to keep up a charade. 
Like I don't, I don't accept 

653
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,120
that. 
Yeah, I think you may really be.

654
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,800
Right. 
Yeah, they're not. 

655
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,800
They're not the government. 
Yeah, no, yeah, exactly. 

656
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,320
They actually, they actually 
understand the value of money in

657
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,480
macro terms. 
And yeah, they're not just going

658
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,920
to piss it away. 
Well, it's also too, I mean, 

659
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:49,720
it'd be these guys, especially 
the American regime is not that 

660
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,520
produceable to money, but like 
money will get you pretty far. 

661
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,240
And it's like, I mean, these 
guys could these guys, these 

662
00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:01,680
guys could buy off Trump's OP, 
they could buy off Trump's OPS 

663
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,160
also. 
I mean, it's not like they got 

664
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,760
away. 
It's not like, it's like, it's 

665
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,680
not like people, it's not like 
other than Trump, people won't 

666
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,200
take their money. 
I mean, it's like, yeah. 

667
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,880
So I mean, obviously there's 
some something beyond, you know,

668
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,080
just Katherine clout. 
It has to do with, you know, 

669
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,320
long term development and and 
other things of, of, of, you 

670
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,320
know, whatever pet projects they
want to see come to fruition. 

671
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,720
But yeah, that's kind of a 
tangent on my end, I mean. 

672
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,400
As always, Sir, it's always a 
pleasure to have you on first of

673
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,640
all. 
And second of all, this show is 

674
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,520
dedicated to going where the 
conversation goes. 

675
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,680
So we go where it goes and fuck 
all the rest. 

676
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:06,080
Just to tie it back up and put 
me to put a bow on the Nuremberg

677
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,040
or post Nuremberg regime as you 
will. 

678
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,280
And kind of living in the 20th 
century. 

679
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,680
What are your? 
OK, so let's let's play the 

680
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,640
scenario up because now Jamie 
Dimon is signalling that 

681
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,880
America's heading into a massive
recession. 

682
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,320
I think it'll be a global Great 
Depression, at least in the 

683
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,200
financial markets, things that 
people are aren't prepared for. 

684
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,320
We have Haitians eating dogs and
cats. 

685
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:40,520
We have various other things 
going on in the world and 

686
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,080
locally. 
So let's set the scenario right.

687
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Trump is installed in November. 
Let's say there's some Hoo ha 

688
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560
shit. 
But but come January, he's sworn

689
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,840
in and that's it. 
That's all. 

690
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:58,800
And immediately he he moves to 
end the war in Ukraine and 

691
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,400
starts to implement some of his 
some of his designs. 

692
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,680
I think if you've spoken about 
this pretty eloquently on X, 

693
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
there's these people who are 
blackpooled about Trump, 

694
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,720
especially after the debate, 
this win loss thing. 

695
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Maybe this is where he can even 
get into a little bit of Hagel. 

696
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,880
You know, there's people create 
these false dialectics and they 

697
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,760
obsessed with winning and 
losing, but they don't even know

698
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,840
understand what what a win or a 
loss is. 

699
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,440
They have no win conditioner 
either. 

700
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,000
They they're they're they're so 
they're such massive losers that

701
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,600
like every their life is lost. 
So I don't know what they think.

702
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,640
What worse would what's worse 
than having no balls? 

703
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,960
I don't know. 
So maybe we can speak to that. 

704
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,360
Is that so there's a scenario 
things are getting better, but I

705
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,520
fear, well, I fear I think a lot
of people in our sphere will 

706
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,440
then take that as a win and just
go back to sleep, which in my 

707
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,160
mind is actually kind of a win. 
But I don't know that's that's a

708
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,600
bit I'm. 
I'm rambling a little bit on 

709
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,480
this one because I'm trying to 
pull a few threads from. 

710
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Assuming, I mean, yeah, if 
Trump, if Trump gets sworn in 

711
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:19,760
for a second term that basically
neutralize a lot of a lot of 

712
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,640
hostility to the regime, OK. 
I mean, from people who aren't 

713
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,840
like real thoughtful. 
OK. 

714
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,000
I mean, I'm not, I'm not just 
like dumping on people 

715
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000
categorically. 
Like a lot of guys got wives and

716
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,920
kids in support. 
They and I mean, everybody's 

717
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,120
different, OK, I mean, like, 
it's not not everybody's 

718
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,280
supposed to be sitting around 
kind of contemplating, you know,

719
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,560
political developments and 
stuff. 

720
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,400
But I mean, one of the reasons 
it's goofy that and you could 

721
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,280
tell the regime was slipping was
like the, the, the fact they 

722
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,000
went totally berserk about 
Trump. 

723
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,560
I mean, it's like I said, it 
proves that like they, you know,

724
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,120
you've got you have this kind of
media apparatus, which is like a

725
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,320
which is like the front man of 
the regime. 

726
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,040
But they actually, I mean, 
they've got clout in a way. 

727
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,600
And that they can like they can 
fuck with public opinion and 

728
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,160
kind of like confabulate 
narratives. 

729
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,320
But but they're, they're not the
people are actually bankrolling 

730
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,640
this. 
They're not the people actually 

731
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,040
make rendering decisions, but 
like they think they are and 

732
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,960
they don't, they don't, they 
don't understand that like one 

733
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,760
of the functions like a guy like
Trump serves is that he lets you

734
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,480
basically like neutralize your 
OPS because then they your alibi

735
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040
is like, look, you guys have as 
much representation as anybody 

736
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,520
else, you know, even more so 
like your man's in the White 

737
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,520
House. 
That's one of the functions like

738
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,000
Reagan served. 
You know, I mean, I, I'm not 

739
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000
like down on Reagan 
particularly, but I, you know, 

740
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,120
I, I think people will 
understand what I mean. 

741
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:54,320
But yeah, I by, by, by early 
going to war with Trump. 

742
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,840
They're, it's there, there's a 
real like ignorance there and 

743
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,000
just kind of like lack of 
understanding of, of the game 

744
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:09,160
itself. 
And yeah, I, you know, we're, I 

745
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,080
make the point of people that 
we're not the Jehovah's 

746
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,440
Witnesses, We're not Joel 
Osteen's mega church and we're 

747
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,040
not, we're not trying to like 
convert people, you know, like 

748
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,800
go door to door and like sign 
people up for something, you 

749
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:32,040
know, and it's I, I, is it good 
for us if I think generally it's

750
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,360
good for us if, if Trump's being
totally marginalized because 

751
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,760
then that means like the masses 
totally dropped. 

752
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,120
You know, I'm always making the 
point that the regimes and like 

753
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,520
a late Soviet stage, like nobody
takes it seriously. 

754
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,840
There's no credibility. 
It's like nakedly corrupt. 

755
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,360
It, it can no longer attract 
people who, who, who have 

756
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,920
anything going for them. 
You know, it's, it's just it's 

757
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,880
kind of like naked careerists. 
You can't succeed anywhere else.

758
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,360
And you know, that's if there's 
not going to be some like 

759
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,840
November 9, 1989 moment. 
Like that's not what I'm saying.

760
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,920
If, you know, there's even been 
a shamble on for several more 

761
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,760
decades, but it's, you know, 
it's, it's, it's obsolete. 

762
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,760
I mean, everything goes aside. 
I mean, it's, it's, it's a 20th 

763
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,200
century artifact. 
You know, it doesn't, it 

764
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,040
doesn't, it doesn't really index
with the world as it is today. 

765
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Like even I'm not even talking 
in, in terms of it's ideological

766
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,800
prejudices. 
I mean, I've said it's part of 

767
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,040
it, but it's like structurally 
like it doesn't, it's, it's the 

768
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,640
house that FDR and then the Cold
War built. 

769
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,680
You know, it's not it's, it's 
not it's, it doesn't have a 

770
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,640
context anymore. 
Everything else aside. 

771
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,800
Yeah, I think that's, I think 
that's kind of the moment we're 

772
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,560
at. 
And that's an interesting moment

773
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,120
that essentially the regime has 
existed long enough on this, you

774
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,800
know, this empire of lies, to 
quote Putin has existed in this 

775
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,120
ever, ever increasing 
significant zone of farce, 

776
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,840
leaving its own narrative to the
point now where it's no longer 

777
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,000
dealing with reality And 
reality's about to slap it in 

778
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,040
the face. 
You know, the sovereign debt 

779
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,920
crisis and the sovereign debt 
bubble that's about to explode 

780
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,960
is going to consume the world. 
It's it's like it's, it's an 

781
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,800
econ nuclear bomb. 
And I don't think a lot of 

782
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,360
people are prepared for that 
reality of walking to town one 

783
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,960
day and seeing, let's say 90% of
the stores closed gone, like not

784
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,320
not coming back kind of thing. 
And that will, I think 

785
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,000
facilitate, it'll be interesting
to see how people react to that.

786
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,720
I, you know, I, I think about 
the Haitian thing that's being 

787
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:59,280
in the news right now and it's 
like a lot, it's amazing to me 

788
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,120
how how few people have ever 
really lived at St. level. 

789
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Because when you're living at 
St. level, a lot of these 

790
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,240
stories like, yeah, of course. 
Yeah. 

791
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,520
What would you, you didn't, you 
didn't fucking know this. 

792
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,200
Yeah. 
I mean, honestly, I probably, I 

793
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,320
probably got a higher tolerance 
for like total dysfunction than 

794
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,320
I should. 
Like, I don't mean like in my 

795
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,680
personal life or something. 
I mean that I I'm lucky enough 

796
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:31,240
to live in like a really nice 
town, but you know, I it's, I 

797
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:35,320
mean Chicago and where's Chicago
lands unusual because like block

798
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,760
to block in town and town things
vary dramatically. 

799
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,920
And like I, I'm outnumbered 1000
to one here. 

800
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,080
And like there's, there's all 
kinds of like literally like 

801
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,040
crazy, like third world bullshit
going on at all times. 

802
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,800
I kind of like don't even notice
it anymore. 

803
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,040
And perverse as it might seem, 
I, I kind of thrive in it, you 

804
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,840
know, like not, not because I 
like it or because I enjoy like 

805
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,400
that that kind of thing's 
happening. 

806
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,960
What it's, you know, I'm, I'm 
kind of an urban survivalist. 

807
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,000
But yeah, I think I realized 
that. 

808
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,280
I realized that I think about 20
years ago because like I, I 

809
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,680
especially like especially then 
it was people kind of do it even

810
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,360
more of their head in the sand 
and it's like they had no 

811
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,520
concept of what was actually 
happening. 

812
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,920
Like out of doors. 
Literally. 

813
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,760
They realized like, well, these 
people like live in some like 

814
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,320
kind of like random suburb no 
one's actually from. 

815
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:34,160
And they there's not crazy 
refugee like refugees, you know,

816
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,160
being settled there. 
There's not like there's not 

817
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,880
crazy like hood bullshit there. 
There's not, you know, and then 

818
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,960
probably like, you know, they 
probably live in like a suburb 

819
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,120
that's like, you know, 80% white
and like every town and with 

820
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,680
like an Asian minority or 
something. 

821
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,040
And like every town for 100 
miles is like that, you know? 

822
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,280
So, yeah, I think I think a lot 
of that's true. 

823
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,840
And so as you know, because like
a lot of people, like a lot of 

824
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,040
people just don't leave their 
house, you know, like I, I 

825
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,920
realized that because I mean, 
like I'm always kind of just 

826
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,880
like on foot and like walking 
around and stuff. 

827
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,000
I mean, not just because I don't
have a car and like in the big 

828
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,440
city, that's just what you do. 
You like go see stuff. 

829
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:19,760
But like, I realized it's like 
the only like the only people I 

830
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,200
see if I go to like a museum or 
the beach or something, or if 

831
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,880
I'm just like, it's like I do 
like kids, you know, some of 

832
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,520
whom are like good kids, like, 
you know, doing normal stuff, 

833
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,560
some of whom are like bad hood 
kids and like oldsters, you 

834
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,800
know, like I don't, I don't see 
anyone like, I don't see any 

835
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,360
like the prime working age 
people or like people my age 

836
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,640
like out outside, you know, 
it's, and I'm like, I, I used to

837
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,960
think about it, like, is 
everybody either like a kid or 

838
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,520
an old person? 
And I'm like, no, I'm like these

839
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,920
motherfuckers just like don't 
leave their house, which is 

840
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,360
totally insane. 
But I, I'm not trying to be 

841
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,400
funny. 
I I like I it's like a real 

842
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,920
thing. 
Yeah, I mean, I'm guilty of 

843
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,280
that. 
I but I live in I. 

844
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,680
Mean you got a family. 
It's different. 

845
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,280
Yeah, and I just try to avoid 
stupid at all at all costs. 

846
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,240
So I, I rarely, I, I rarely 
venture much further than the 

847
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,440
711 down the street. 
Thomas, we're coming up on the 

848
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,440
hour again. 
Thank you so much. 

849
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Any last thoughts, any wrap UPS 
you want to do? 

850
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Of course, tell the people where
to get you. 

851
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,280
I'm going to post links to your 
store as well in the comments 

852
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,000
section. 
And we're we'll be playing ads 

853
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,320
throughout the show. 
So in the post. 

854
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,280
So yeah, please let's end with 
this one. 

855
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,800
One last thought and then we 
will get to the, to the pitch 

856
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,440
deck. 
How do you see this playing out?

857
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,080
What do you, what do you think 
is most likely? 

858
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,480
Because I mean, I've talked 
about the Spear of the Vengeful 

859
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,280
Sun coming in and this being an 
age of total violence, not just 

860
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,280
kinetic, but economic, social, 
everything. 

861
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,120
This just sort of tearing down 
momentum, which I feel is 

862
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,360
building all over the West, 
partly in, in reaction to 

863
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,920
immigration, partly in, in 
reaction to this awareness of 

864
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,120
generational betrayal, which I 
think this Nuremberg moment, if 

865
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,240
we want to call that, is 
revealing things to people. 

866
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,920
And people are getting pissed 
because they're realizing now. 

867
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,440
And, and it doesn't have to be 
140 IQ, you know, historical 

868
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,440
revisionist thinking these 
things anymore. 

869
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:26,880
Even even the plebs are, are, 
are getting the message on some 

870
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,800
level and it's turning people 
vengeful. 

871
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,920
So that's my kind of prediction.
How do you think? 

872
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,080
But you're, you're on, you're on
the ground in America. 

873
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,360
I'm not. 
How do you think that plays out?

874
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:45,120
What do you any insights and 
into let's say the next 4-4 

875
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,760
years, four or five years? 
Yeah. 

876
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:54,560
I mean, I maintain, as I have 
maintained in the past few 

877
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,360
years, I mean, bad as things 
are, and I mean, don't get me 

878
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:02,840
wrong, like I mean 2020 to 2022 
was, was like really fucked up, 

879
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,760
but it, it still was not as bad 
as the 90s. 

880
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:12,000
You know, it just wasn't. 
And I, there's not, there's not 

881
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,040
like a race war in the year. 
Like there wasn't in the 90s. 

882
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,240
You know, when I, if there was, 
I, I wouldn't be able to. 

883
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,880
I, I mean, I can, I can, I can 
pretty much go to like any hood 

884
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,000
I want and like, ain't nothing 
going to happen. 

885
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,720
And it was not at all like that 
30 years ago. 

886
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,320
I mean, I think I, I don't think
there's going to be some, you 

887
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,320
know, like I said, I don't think
there's going to be some 

888
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,040
punctuated crisis of a 
structural nature, right? 

889
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,280
I think, I think the regime's 
dying. 

890
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,000
It's just bleeding out from 1000
peripheral cuts. 

891
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:58,680
And yeah, I, I think 
increasingly it's, it's, it's 

892
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,880
lost even what vestigial 
credibility it might have still 

893
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,880
had, you know, and, and not just
moral terms, but conceptual 

894
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,960
ones. 
Like people, people don't even 

895
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,680
really just believe what these 
regime functionaries declare, 

896
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,840
you know, to people. 
People realize that like what 

897
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:24,720
they're presenting as reality 
is, is not remotely a complete 

898
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,600
picture. 
If, if, if it's, if it's not, if

899
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,800
not an out and out, you know, 
confabulation. 

900
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:41,240
But it's hard to say. 
I, I think, I think the things 

901
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,160
have been pretty intense really 
the last eight years. 

902
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,480
It's not, I mean, they reached a
peak kind of around 2020-2021. 

903
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,520
And then of course, the, the, 
the lockdown tyranny and all 

904
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:58,760
that shit with its own thing. 
I think things will probably be 

905
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,200
for barely chill, like fairly 
calm, like speaking 

906
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:07,200
sociologically and at scale. 
I think there's, it's here. 

907
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,440
Well, some of the topics we've 
covered just now I, I think 

908
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,880
internationally, globally and 
warrant peace terms. 

909
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,880
I think there's going to be some
very severe developments. 

910
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,200
I think they're already under 
way, but the internal situation 

911
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,200
here, I think it's in kind of a 
holding pattern. 

912
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:30,240
But the holding pattern is 
contains a, a very clear 

913
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,640
process, a deterioration of the 
of the state's sovereign 

914
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,520
authority and legitimacy and 
everything else. 

915
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,160
That's the best I got for. 
Today I feel that. 

916
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,520
I think that's pretty damn good.
Thank you again, Thomas. 

917
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Always a pleasure friend. 
Let let the people know. 

918
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Let the people know where to get
you, where to buy you, where to,

919
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,160
where to consume on my my 
Twitter account. 

920
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:59,560
More Thomas from the 7/7. 
Yeah, I mean, I'm on Twitter at 

921
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Capital REAL under score #7 
lowercase HMAS 777. 

922
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,520
I'm on Sub Stack. 
I want Instagram, I want 

923
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,000
Telegram. 
I've got my own website, which 

924
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:18,400
is kind of like a one stop place
where you can kind of find all 

925
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:24,680
my platforms. 
It's #7 HMAS 777.com. 

926
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,960
And yeah, like I my dear friend 
here, Craig, he's been mocking 

927
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:34,400
up like T-shirts and coffee mugs
and beer glasses and all kinds 

928
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,680
of all kinds of merged and, and 
he, I mean, he's, he's a great 

929
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,360
guy and he's got, he's a great 
talent. 

930
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,280
His his designs are, are 
fantastic. 

931
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,720
But that's stuff's been actually
selling really well, which makes

932
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:55,080
me very happy. 
So yeah, that's lately I'm 

933
01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:00,560
trying to catch up on my long 
form stuff and I'm trying to 

934
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,160
piece this documentary together.
I mean I that's what I got in 

935
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,400
the works right now. 
And of course, ladies and 

936
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,320
gentlemen, thank you so much for
listening and supporting the 

937
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,320
channel. 
Buy me a coffee. 

938
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,240
Go buy some Fox and Sons coffee.
Used to bits in the coupon code.

939
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,200
We'll see you at the Expat Money
Summit in October. 

940
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,840
What else? 
Appreciate you and everyone of 

941
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,640
you. 
The show is always continuously 

942
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,960
growing and that is because of 
the support of other people out 

943
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,720
there listening and consuming 
this this kind of information. 

944
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,280
I appreciate each and everyone 
of you and we we'll talk to you 

945
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,480
again very, very soon. 
Thomas, just hang on a second.