1 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Casting Views. 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,800 And this week it's a return of Who's Coming to Dinner. 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,680 And I feel like I haven't done one of these for a while and I 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,120 love doing these. And my guest this week is Cindy 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,280 from the Hypno Wellness podcast. So hi, Cindy, how are you doing? 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,640 How? Are you doing? 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,440 I'm very good, I'm very good. I do love these episodes, mainly 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:42,560 because I get to get to hear people's lovely food ideas and I 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,400 finally, after about a year of doing these, learnt my lesson. 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,000 I've just had my main meals so because afterwards I always feel 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,080 really hungry. So yeah, tell us about yourself 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 a little bit about yourself and your podcast first. 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,080 So I think you've been going for what, a couple of years or just 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,680 over a couple of years now, haven't you? 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Just over a couple of years, about 2 1/2 years now and I 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,640 haven't missed one podcast upload. 17 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:08,560 So that's a really, I think that's a big accomplishment for 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760 myself. I know that that is really 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,360 impressive because I mean, I know there's there's been a few 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,600 times where I've had to had to miss it. 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,240 I think people underestimate how difficult it can be or time 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,680 consuming. It can be put in pug. 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Oh, yeah, yeah, it really it, it can. 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,680 It can get you sometimes, especially if you don't feel 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,240 well. That's no that's the kicker when 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 you are sick and you still have to do it. 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,600 And I had to edit out a bunch of coughing and sniffling. 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,320 It's not. That's not fun. 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,920 I recently sort of had a bug of some sort, and I was coming to 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,160 edit the episodes. And you know when you can just 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,880 tell when you've not been feeling well? 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Because you can hear it in your own voice, can't you? 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Oh yeah, and then you have to listen for every little thing 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,320 and you're like, oh, did I sniff too? 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Too loud on that part. So, so tell us, tell us a little 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,720 bit about the Hypno Wellness podcast. 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,280 It really started because I didn't know how to get my 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,840 hypnosis out there, to be honest. 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,800 I live in the South, in Alabama, and a lot of people just don't 40 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:25,240 understand it or they're scared of it or they have a 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,640 preconceived notion about hypnosis. 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,320 And I couldn't think of any other way to do it. 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 So I was like, you know what, I'm going to start a podcast. 44 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,920 And that just opened up a whole can of worms. 2 1/2 years like 45 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:41,560 you're telling me your dinner party plans? 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,800 I absolutely love it. It's the best thing that I ever 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,440 did for myself was to start a podcast. 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,560 And I've met so many wonderful people and I've learned so much. 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,880 I've learned how to edit. I've learned how to use 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,880 different programs and just it, it amazes me, like what you can 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,400 learn and what you can do. And I didn't want to go back to 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,200 hygiene because I was a hygienist for like 25 years. 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,560 And I just kind of was like, you know what, this is what I'm 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,800 going to do now. So now I'm a podcaster. 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,320 It's incredible. What you said is absolutely 56 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,680 true. I know most podcasters will also 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,760 say it, but the community has just been brilliant. 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,880 I, I, I didn't imagine when I started doing this that I'd have 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,520 so many, you know, people that I, I call friends, you know, and 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,960 especially you're in the pack chat as well. 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,040 And it's, it's, it's a great group, isn't it? 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Like, and I've just met amazing people, like really amazing 63 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,800 people that and if you have any kind of questions or they're, 64 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 they're going to help you in a second, they'll DM me. 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,360 What do you need? You know, what, what can I do to 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,520 help? And that, that just amazes me 67 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,200 too. So you mentioned you're a 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,920 hygienist, so you also you are a certified hypnotherapist as 69 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,280 well, right? I was a dental hygienist for 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,600 over 25 years. I worked in dental since I was 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,280 17 and I was in high school. And I used to get out of school 72 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,800 for like, it was like a program that you did. 73 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,680 So that's how I kind of got started in it. 74 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,480 And then I wanted to be a hygienist. 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,640 And then when I was a hygienist, I'd always loved hypnosis. 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,000 And I studied it and I got a little certificate in it, but 77 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,000 you could never use it. Nobody ever wanted to say, hey, 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,880 yeah, let's do this. Let's see if we can calm a 79 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,760 patient down by using hypnosis. Like they all thought it was 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,080 hokey. And, you know, create you're 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,200 crazy for wanting to do something like that. 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,440 And now it's, I, I guess it's better received now than it 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,920 wouldn't used to be. But, you know, back in like the 84 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,520 90s and the early 2000s, like, that wasn't something people 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,640 cared for. This is what I was going to ask 86 00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:00,480 you is because absolutely the the 90s, early 2000s, possibly 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,480 going back to the 80s, if you said hypnosis to someone, it was 88 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,320 those stage show acts, right? I mean, so when you look at 89 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,240 that, do you think that set the genuine hypnotherapy back 90 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,160 because it, it was seen as like a sideshow, wasn't it? 91 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,120 I agree completely whenever they did things like that. 92 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,840 And we still have those people that are out there that are 93 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,960 doing, you know, the sideshow hypnosis. 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,760 And but what they don't see behind the scenes is only a 95 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,600 certain percentage of people can be hypnotized to that degree. 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,720 And they have to do, you know, they have to kind of vet people 97 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,040 like they have to see how well you can be hypnotized in order 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,640 to do that to somebody. So, you know, it's not just like 99 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,920 randomly walking up to somebody on the side of the road and 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,240 going, hey, I'm gonna hypnotize you. 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,680 Let me pull your arm. You know, you're hypnotized. 102 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,000 So there's a little bit more behind the scenes than what we 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,880 see, but I think that's what a lot of people think hypnosis is, 104 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,840 that it's not to heal. It's not, you know, they just 105 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:05,480 see it as like, look like a. Chicken and it's definitely, I 106 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,560 think definitely changed in recent years and it is I mean 107 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,440 it's sort of when I say genuine hypnotherapy, it's it's totally 108 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,360 different, isn't it? Or from my understanding you 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,960 don't go sort of fully under is it? 110 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,960 It's just entering like a really a state of pure relaxed 111 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,640 relaxedness. That's not even a word. 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,760 But you don't your. Mind is there and that's what a 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,880 lot of people don't understand about hypnosis. 114 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,160 They think you're supposed to be fully immersed and you're 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,160 supposed to do everything that they tell you to do. 116 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,480 And but that's not how hypnosis works. 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,280 If you try to hypnosis hypnosis, you try to hypnotize somebody 118 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,120 into doing something that they don't want to do, they're not 119 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,680 going to do it because you're still there. 120 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,880 It's hard to, when you're under, you know you, you know 121 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,880 everything that's going on around you. 122 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,640 So if there was an accident or one of your kids got hurt or you 123 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,320 know, your phone rang, you can pull yourself right out of it. 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,400 So there's a difference between being hypnotized and then being 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,120 brainwashed. Those are two separate, 126 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,480 completely different things. I know a few people who have 127 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,600 used hypnotherapy for, you know, the classics like smoking or 128 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,680 maybe, you know, they want to drink less of the sugary soda 129 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,680 drinks, etcetera. And they, they, they've kind of 130 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,760 used that. So it's, it's a bit like sort of 131 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,520 suggestive or, or or just getting you into that state 132 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 where you can, like you said, just be more, how do I say not, 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,760 not at one with yourself, but sort of understand yourself a 134 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,440 little bit more. Right. 135 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,160 And see, in like Europe, y'all are way more progressive about 136 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,640 hypnosis than we are here. You'll have a lot more 137 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,920 practitioners, you have a lot more. 138 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,800 In fact, the, the program that I took was a Scottish man that 139 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,920 that I learned that the second certificate that I got and they 140 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,200 just know so much more. And I guess the US is kind of 141 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,400 falling behind on it, but they need to pick it up because it's 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,840 so helpful. It really, really is for 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,760 especially for people like you said, that want to stop smoking, 144 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,160 that want to stop to curb their drinking habits, whether it's 145 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,880 soda or alcohol, that it, it helps not only with like your 146 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,240 like you could see your doctor and then go to a hypnotherapist. 147 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,840 And then you've got a team of you know, things and you can 148 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,320 actually see a regular therapist too, along with your doctor, 149 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,840 your therapist and your your hypnotist. 150 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,720 You're doing great. You know, I just wish we could 151 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,679 do more of that here. It surprises me to hear that 152 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,240 because you know, I remember the whole notion or idea of 153 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,720 therapist seemed to be very much an American thing, you know, So 154 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,120 it's like over here now, it's very common, but I'm surprised 155 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,000 the the hypnosis side of things and hasn't also become as 156 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,840 popular. I know that is weird because we 157 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,000 do have a lot of therapists, we just don't have the 158 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,720 hypnotherapist, so I wish we'd get more of that. 159 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,240 And also I think over here, what what's been interesting is in 160 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,240 recent years, I think, and you know, also you could tell me if 161 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,880 I'm wrong, if, if there's been at least any change since COVID 162 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,960 times as well. But I know companies here also, 163 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,880 there's been a whole drive to, you know, employee well-being 164 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,320 and mental health well-being and the whole idea of mindfulness, 165 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,120 etcetera. We've been sort of at one 166 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,120 company, they, they made us do some mindfulness sessions. 167 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,680 And it's just that whole concept of of looking after yourself 168 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:40,440 really, isn't it? That's amazing that I you know, 169 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,960 you hear about some things like that here, but I guess with the 170 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,280 whole climate that our country is taking, we're kind of seeing 171 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,120 a set back in a lot of things like that. 172 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,080 I mean, y'all are progressing. We are. 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,400 And but yeah, like I remember, you know, a while back that 174 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,240 companies would do like mindful retreats and, and stuff like 175 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,400 that, but you haven't really heard of anything like that 176 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,360 right now. I guess they maybe they're just 177 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,200 all worried about, you know, like layoffs and, you know, 178 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,080 stuff like that. But I it, it is helpful, I 179 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 think, for you to have people like that that come into your 180 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,040 company and, you know, get people motivated and get people 181 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,520 out of a stuck mindset. I think that's important. 182 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,600 And so your podcast is here to help. 183 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,720 So I, I think as we were saying more than ever in this day and 184 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,680 age, it feels like this sort of thing is definitely needed. 185 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:43,560 So your episodes are kind of little snippets or not snippets, 186 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:46,800 but they're, they're kind of nice and they, they, they follow 187 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,680 a certain theme and it's just to, to kind of give support to 188 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,480 people in various scenarios, isn't it, Or various situations. 189 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,960 Right. And I try to do a bunch of 190 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,440 different types. I know that really hurts my 191 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,760 algorithm because you're really supposed to stay in one niche, 192 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,840 you know, like sleep. Now I've done 2 sleep videos in 193 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,080 a row. But this next time I'm going to 194 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,400 start getting more into like eating vegetables and, you know, 195 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,880 things because the water one I think went over really well. 196 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,880 I got a lot of hits on my water, you know, where people wanting 197 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,840 to, to drink more water. That was a big theme. 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,440 But yeah, my, my podcast just kind of hits on little snippets 199 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,520 of thanks for Wellness because my, I'm not all into that past 200 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,160 regression And I, I don't like all of that because I just feel 201 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:44,280 that things with past regression and false memories, and there's 202 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,360 just too much of that in hypnosis. 203 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:50,960 So I'm not like a Dolores Cannon follower. 204 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,920 She's one of the ones that did all of that past regression and 205 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,880 talked to Nostradamus. Nostradamus can't, I can't say 206 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,840 his name like correctly, but I I just don't believe in all of 207 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,440 that kind of stuff. I think hypnosis is there to 208 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,960 help people, but whenever you turn it into something hookey, 209 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:12,440 then people are going to turn away from it. 210 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,520 I just don't believe you can talk to your past life and you 211 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,600 know where you lived on a farm and you know, I just, I don't, I 212 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,880 don't understand all that. Yeah, again, I just wonder how 213 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,680 if, if there are certain people who are more suggestive than 214 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,760 others. Oh, definitely, definitely. 215 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 You can get. That's why law enforcement 216 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,120 doesn't use hypnosis because of too many. 217 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,400 You can implant memories into people whether you know if 218 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,640 you're doing it or not. So let's say all of that stuff 219 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,080 that happened, I think it was like in the 80s or 90s with the 220 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,200 children. There's a big case of children 221 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,960 that were saying that they had been, you know, hurt by these 222 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,920 people in a daycare and they weren't. 223 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,640 It was just false memories planted by like trying to do 224 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,160 hypnosis on these people. And, you know, it was a big, it 225 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,640 was a big mess. So that's why we don't use it 226 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,280 in, you know, in any kind of law enforcement here, which is a 227 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,880 good thing. Yeah, yeah, because as she said, 228 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,000 you know it can be abused, can't it? 229 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,320 Definitely. And you don't want it to, to 230 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,080 just give people false hope. I think that's sad, you know? 231 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Like. If you use it to, Oh well, I 232 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,560 see, you know, you know, in your memories or stored, this is 233 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:30,440 where the person is, you know, and it's and you're giving a 234 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160 person false hope. And I think that's sad. 235 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Yeah, we've already said, you know, so like in the 80s and 90s 236 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,240 you had the whole stage show element. 237 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,720 So hypnosis has already had its fair share of what's worth 238 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,400 taking a, a battering almost in, in the sense of it's what's the 239 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,280 word, it's validity. So now you know, we're in a day 240 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,080 and age now where as, as we've said, it's got a genuine purpose 241 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,080 and it's genuinely helping people. 242 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,520 So and. I think if they keep on that 243 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,840 trajectory of, you know, it helps people, it helps people, 244 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,400 it helps people if we can get that out more and more and more 245 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,680 and and put away that Oh well, we're doing past lives and 246 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,200 talking to, you know, Nostradamus. 247 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Yeah, I, I just, I think it would, it would help people so 248 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,240 much. And that's it. 249 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,640 And you know, just looking at your last few episodes, you've 250 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,040 got a couple of the sleeping, you know, sort of gym, gym 251 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 anxiety. I mean, the sleeping one at the 252 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,520 moment I think is very up for me because I've had a few nights 253 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,560 where I've really been struggling and, and it's true. 254 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,600 The thing is I tend to then what I do is put a little earbud in 255 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,360 so the wife doesn't wake up and listen to something because, you 256 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,080 know, you just find it's that distraction. 257 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,640 So, and I guess that's kind of what these these episodes are 258 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,800 for is just to listen to your voice, isn't it? 259 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,160 And just to get that support and and encourage you. 260 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,840 For the first 10 minutes and then usually by 10 minutes, most 261 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,120 people go to sleep in that time in 10 minutes. 262 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Now, some people are harder to fall asleep. 263 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,760 But I, you know, I just didn't want to really get into sleep 264 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,920 hypnosis just because it can just take over your whole 265 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,320 channel and then you just can't. You can do anything else. 266 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,600 That's fine, You know. So I just did two in a row, but 267 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,760 I'm like, Nope, it's time to get back to the other. 268 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Yeah, and variety is good, isn't it? 269 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,200 Like I said, there are so many things that people are looking 270 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,640 for guidance and support in right so. 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,120 That's all right. Yeah, so the Hypno Wellness 272 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,760 podcast will give you a chance to shout that out again at the 273 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,320 end of the episode. But we are here food, drink and 274 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,240 guests, right? So before we do, we are going to 275 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,920 hear from an advert from a mutual friend of ours. 276 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,400 We're going to hear from the Chat Scenario podcast. 277 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,480 Welcome to Chat Tsunami, A variety podcast that discusses 278 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,480 topics from gaming and films to anime in general interests. 279 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Previously on Chat Tsunami, we've analysed what makes a good 280 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,040 horror game, conducted a retrospective on Pierce 281 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,480 Brosnan's runs, James Bond, and listen to us take deep dives 282 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,760 into both the Sonic and Halo franchises. 283 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Also, if you're an anime fan, then don't forget to check us 284 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,840 out on our sub series Chatsunani, where we dive into 285 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,080 the world of anime. So far, we've reviewed things 286 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,920 like Death Note, Princess Moronoke, and the hit Beyblade 287 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,800 series. If that sounds like your cup of 288 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,600 tea, then you can check us out on Spotify, iTunes, and open 289 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,880 podcast apps. As always, stay safe, stay 290 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,920 awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated. 291 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,280 Right, we are back. So Cindy, you know, the the 292 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,880 outline, you are going to present your perfect idea of a 293 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,000 dinner party. You are going to present to me 294 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,200 one by one. You're going to have a course. 295 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,360 So it'll be your your starter, your mania dessert. 296 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,400 And each time you'll also introduce a guest that you're 297 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,440 going to invite. I'm already number one. 298 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,640 I'm already made myself comfortable as I always do. 299 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,640 You've sat me in the corner. So yeah. 300 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 And oh, and I always keep forgetting the question I was 301 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,160 going to ask actually, are you a foodie person? 302 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,760 Anyway? Do is is cooking something you 303 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:12,520 enjoy? I cook, I, I'm not a great cook. 304 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,720 My now my Thanksgiving is really nice. 305 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,160 But my son Landon, Oh my gosh, he now he is a he's a huge cook 306 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,000 and he'll like, oh, you got to add this spices and you got to 307 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,920 do it this way and you got and he's taught me so much in the 308 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,640 kitchen compared to what I learned from anybody else. 309 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,320 And he watches videos and stuff like that. 310 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,120 So he, he'll spend an hour making lunch. 311 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,280 That's how like interfered he is. 312 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,560 I am not like that. I will make a sandwich. 313 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,800 That's the same as me. I do love eating my food but I'm 314 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,200 not great at preparing it so. Yep. 315 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,000 So let us start with the starter. 316 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,280 So what are you dishing up? We're going to do a ramekin of 317 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,280 tomato soup with croutons, garlic croutons and some little 318 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,720 like bruschetta. Bruschetta, forgot how they say 319 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,680 it, little sourdough, just kind of a round. 320 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,040 But I like that little starter of the tomato soup. 321 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,680 Yeah, it's a nice soup, isn't it? 322 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,880 Because it's, it's got that sharpness to the taste. 323 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,080 So it's not overly rich. And yeah, the, the bruschetta on 324 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,760 the side. So do you? 325 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,880 Do you enjoy your soups? I do. 326 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,320 I love soup. I love broccoli and cheddar. 327 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,760 It's one of my favorite soups. Oh, that's lovely. 328 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,160 Really good. Yeah, Yeah. 329 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,200 Cheese. Like you can put some cheese on 330 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,200 the tomato soup. That would be it too. 331 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:45,440 Yeah, yeah, we, my wife makes us a lot of soups, but she loves, 332 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,000 she doesn't make it, but if we're at, she does love to get a 333 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,160 nice French onion soup. Yeah, yeah. 334 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,400 That's really good too. That's a great start to the 335 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,480 mill. So who is the 1st guest that's 336 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,120 coming through the door? Mr. Rogers, I love him. 337 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,880 Oh, OK. I love Mr. Rogers. 338 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,760 You have to explain it a bit because I don't think he was 339 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,480 someone that really made it his way over here as such, but I 340 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,040 understand he's an absolute icon over in in the States, isn't he? 341 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,880 He is, he was a Presbyterian minister and he kind of got 342 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 started in TV because he didn't like TV and he wanted a way to 343 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,080 kind of, I guess maybe minister to kids. 344 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,600 He actually has like had a degree in something to do with 345 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:39,320 TV and he was a minister, but he did it in a way where it wasn't 346 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,880 in your face, you know, like he was just, he taught children to 347 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:51,520 be kind and loving and caring. He actually had a a black man 348 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,600 out on his show and they both put their feet in a pool 349 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,840 together. And that was something that was 350 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:03,600 huge because black and white people didn't come together and 351 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,480 do things like that. But he was just a really good 352 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:12,440 how what would you say? He brought people together and 353 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,600 he taught them kindness. He was funny too. 354 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,400 Like he, you know, he could be funny. 355 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,480 He was witty, smart. He went to Dartmouth, you know, 356 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,920 like he, he was a very well-rounded individual. 357 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:29,520 And I just think he would just bring so much to a conversation 358 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,520 when you were sitting there with him and you would learn about so 359 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,360 much that happened with civil rights, you know, just stuff 360 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,480 like that. So I think he would be 361 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,720 excellent. Just to go back to what you 362 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,000 said, you know, because his show I think was in the 50s was it or 363 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 50s, sixties, 70s. So it was in those early. 364 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560 It ran all the way up until I think 2001. 365 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,400 I don't think he was in it till 2001, but I, I think he had his 366 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,040 hands in, in it, you know, until then. 367 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,040 When you said his name, the only thing I'm aware of, and I've not 368 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,200 seen it yet, is I believe they've made a film about him or 369 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,480 a documentary called Is It Won't You Be My Neighbor? 370 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,120 Yes, I haven't. I've seen that I really want to 371 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,280 watch it and I keep forgetting because every time you go to 372 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,320 watch something, it's there's so much thrown in your face that 373 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,240 you forget. I need to write it down on a 374 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,760 piece of paper. Well, it's also is it on this 375 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,760 streaming platform, this streaming platform, this 376 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,080 streaming platform. Do you have the streaming 377 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960 platform? Do you want to pay 299 even 378 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,040 though you have 15 streaming? Yeah, yeah. 379 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Do you want to see it in more definition? 380 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Pay more? Do you want to see it? 381 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600 The only reason it stands out for me is I know a couple of 382 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,320 people and I was listening to a radio program once and they 383 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840 watched it and they said it's actually quite emotional, even 384 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,120 though again, over here he wasn't necessarily as big a 385 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,440 name. They said it's actually quite an 386 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,040 emotional story. He was a remarkable man and I 387 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,360 just think people like that are fascinating to me. 388 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,360 People that have had a very rich life and have done things for 389 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,040 others. I just, I don't know. 390 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,640 I think life is all about helping people. 391 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,200 Absolutely no, absolutely. You know, you can either go the 392 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,320 destructive way or the OR the supportive way, right? 393 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,760 And it'd be a better place with the latter. 394 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,040 I think that's a great start both in in guests and foods. 395 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,160 So what are you serving up for your main meal? 396 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,640 Well, I like grilled salmon, so we're going to have grilled 397 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,720 salmon over wild rice and garlic green beans. 398 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 That's I just love that. That sounds lovely. 399 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,640 I, you know, because we don't have it that often here at home. 400 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,880 I will like steaks and and burgers and ribs etcetera. 401 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,000 But you know, a nice bit of fish, especially salmon. 402 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Salmon is so flavoursome, but also light as well, isn't it? 403 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480 It's not going to unless you have a a huge amount of it. 404 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,720 It's not going to feel. It's not going to make you feel 405 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,880 bloated. And it's easy to make and you 406 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,440 can just throw it stuff on top of it and stick it in the oven 407 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480 and like 25 minutes later it's done. 408 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,400 You know, it's, it's easy. It's, it's, it's not hard. 409 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,000 The garlic green beans. I love those. 410 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Me and my husband went to Atlanta because he had a thing 411 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,360 up there with a post office and we went to a place called Ted 412 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:25,520 Turner's Montana Grill. It's the guy that used to own 413 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,000 CNN was called Ted Turner. And he opens up a restaurant and 414 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,680 those green beans, me and my husband were just thinking about 415 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840 them constantly. We're like, Oh my God, we have 416 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,840 to have those green beans. So I just got around and played 417 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,080 in the kitchen and you have to have fresh green beans. 418 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,440 You can't have, you know, frozen or anything to have to be fresh. 419 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,400 And then you put the garlic and the butter, and that's what 420 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,320 makes it. Did I say I wouldn't get hungry? 421 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600 So I was talking about this after I'd eaten. 422 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,640 So did you say you were from Alabama? 423 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:05,720 I was born in Fort Walton Beach and in Florida, and then I moved 424 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,440 overseas. My dad was in the Air Force. 425 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,400 I lived in Spain for about almost four years of my life. 426 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,000 Then we moved here and the reason why we came back to 427 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Mobile was because my parents, both of their parents, my mom 428 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280 and my dad's, they lived here. So that's why I live here now. 429 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,920 I know the only reason I ask. Yeah, no, the only reason I ask 430 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840 is because, you know, I do wonder. 431 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,600 I know it's sort of like the regional foods in America can be 432 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,320 quite different now. I was, oh, years ago, we did a 433 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,440 tour of the, the South of America. 434 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,800 So it was mainly Louisiana. So we did New Orleans, Memphis, 435 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,120 I think we did go into Mississippi. 436 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:54,320 So and you mentioned Florida. So I know seafood is is 437 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,000 obviously a big thing or, or or can be a big thing in these days 438 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,400 there. So I was just wondering what 439 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,560 kind of, well, I was going to ask what you grew up with, but 440 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,800 you, you're part Spain. Yeah, Well, I, you know, I 441 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,200 really don't remember what I ate when I was over there. 442 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,480 I honestly don't. My mom, we lived on an Air Force 443 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,040 Base. So it's kind of like, I guess 444 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,760 American food here. We have a Gulf Coast, Gulf Coast 445 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,560 shrimp. That's our big thing here. 446 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Shrimp and oysters. It kind of freaks me out a 447 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,760 little bit because our Bay, we have a lot of spillage into our 448 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,480 Bay and they have a lot of oh, you can't use, you can't eat 449 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600 them at this time or there's toxic. 450 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,040 It's just it scares me a little bit about eating our fresh Bay 451 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,680 oysters. Like I don't know if I want to 452 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,680 eat that. Let me check the news. 453 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,320 But it's good. And we have, I live in Mobile, 454 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,960 AL, So if you look at Alabama on a map, there's like a little 455 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,840 split in Alabama. Oh, yeah, there it is. 456 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. 457 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840 And we have, and there's a bridge that goes across there 458 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,280 and there's a land mass that's there just a little bit. 459 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,040 And that's called the Causeway. And there's a lot of amazing 460 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,080 restaurants on the Causeway. If you ever come back down, 461 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,280 you'll have to go to the Causeway. 462 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,280 Just ask them did they say anything on the news about the 463 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,680 oysters? Yeah, I'm just looking at it now 464 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,320 so I can see exactly where you are. 465 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320 Yeah, because I think I this trip I did did go into 466 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,000 Birmingham. Oh yes. 467 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Oh, Birmingham is lovely. In fact, we would love both me 468 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,280 and my husband have elderly parents. 469 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,640 My mother is in a nursing home and my father-in-law is at his 470 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:48,280 house, but he has a nurse. And we can't move until, you 471 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,920 know, I, I don't even like to say that, you know, you know, 472 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,640 but Birmingham is one of the places that we just would love 473 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000 to move to. Yeah, and, and I love that whole 474 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,760 area. Yes. 475 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,920 At Nashville, Yeah. I'm just, I'm just remembering 476 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,480 the route now. Yeah, we went Nashville. 477 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,480 I think we we landed in Atlanta, but then we went to Nashville. 478 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,960 Memphis, Yeah. Down to New Orleans and into 479 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,640 Birmingham. Yeah. 480 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,600 And that, that the whole area, the the whole food and culture 481 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,160 of that area was just great. You know, even Florida, what 482 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,480 what was going to say where I was leading to because you 483 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,880 picked salmon is the seafood there is great. 484 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,280 Now I've said so many times on these episodes, you know, 485 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,880 Britain being an island, you'd think we'd have like amazing 486 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,960 seafood. But this thing that always gets 487 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,360 me is when I'm in the States and I have shrimp now to ask shrimp 488 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,680 a tiny, tiny little things. But over there, there's these 489 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520 massive, tasty, juicy sort of bits. 490 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,280 We, we have shrimp, y'all have prawns and there's a difference 491 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,960 between the two of them because I used to think that y'all were 492 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,680 just saying the word prawn as a word for shrimp, you know, like 493 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,280 it's, it was the same thing. Well, it's not a prawn is 494 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,760 actually different than a shrimp is. 495 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,480 So, and we have different types of shrimp. 496 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,520 So they get picked up at certain times of the year or they get 497 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760 picked up from certain depths of the sea bed. 498 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,120 So you can have things that taste almost like a lobster if 499 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,280 you get the royal Reds and as you bring them up from the the 500 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,080 ocean, it does something to them, I guess it gives them the 501 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,320 bins like a diver wood and it makes them turn like it, it 502 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080 almost like makes them taste a different way because they're 503 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,600 brought up so quickly. But yeah, it's very interesting. 504 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Like, you know, that the seafood that we have, it's really good. 505 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Like it's good. It's just, it's scary. 506 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,160 That's all of the, the, you know, the pollutants, I guess 507 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 the Gulf. Again, in in this day and age, 508 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,120 it's always a thing to think about, isn't it? 509 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760 But yet, no, I know exactly where you are and if I'm ever in 510 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,760 that area. Yep, you've given me that that. 511 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Situation. You'll have to come. 512 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:07,240 You'll have to come by. OK, so having salmon, who is the 513 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,880 next guest on your list? It is Barack Obama. 514 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,760 Oh, wow. OK, Yeah. 515 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,040 Oh. My God, Oh my God, I love that 516 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,480 man. And for one, I think he's 517 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600 gorgeous. He's tall, he's funny, he's 518 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,280 smart. He went to Harvard. 519 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,840 I, I love smart men. That's just my, I, I love a 520 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,760 smart man. I, I, I just, I and A, and a 521 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,960 person that is a, an orator, I guess somebody that can speak 522 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,640 and has clarity and is lovely. And I don't know, he just he has 523 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,840 a cadence that is beautiful when he speaks, like when he does 524 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,200 like I just and I and he just seems like he would be a 525 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,640 fascinating person. And then Mr. Rogers in him, I 526 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,440 think would just get along. It's like they would get along. 527 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,240 It would be like so amazing. That's an amazing guest and 528 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280 definitely both of these are the first time I've had them on this 529 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,480 show, but not on the show mentioned on the show. 530 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,880 But you know, if, if Mr. Obama would like to go on the show, if 531 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,760 he's listening. But I I know what you mean. 532 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,120 And even what what I was going to say is like, even if you for 533 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,600 now, I know it's hard with him as a guest, but if you put 534 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,040 politics aside, he's just yeah, there was that aura about him. 535 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,640 And as you said, as a someone on the world stage and as a as a 536 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880 leader and as a speaker, there was that charisma. 537 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,200 And you listened even as someone over here, you know, who's. 538 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Well, I was going to say we're so distant from US politics, but 539 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,280 that's not really the case anymore. 540 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,200 I think over many years sort of where we're becoming entwined 541 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,320 really. But I, I would say that here as 542 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,000 well, even some of our leaders, you know, recently, they're not 543 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,920 always necessarily someone who can put confidence in you, you 544 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,560 know, for, for a little bit of term. 545 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840 And we, we've had some leaders in the past who have done that. 546 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:08,360 And, and again, political persuasion aside, it's yeah, he 547 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400 had that he he drew your attention, didn't he? 548 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Did and I just I love a smart per like when you can put a 549 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,880 sentence together and really draw somebody in and not just 550 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,000 using nonsense. And you know, he he just made 551 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,560 you feel like there's a certain way that he made you feel like 552 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,520 you could do anything. He's that that person. 553 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160 He could hype you up, I think. I think he would be like, man, 554 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,960 you can do it. You can do it, you can do it, 555 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,160 you know, and then you could go play basketball with him, you 556 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,960 know, and even if you sucked, he would be like, man, you're doing 557 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,240 the best job, you know, like he just just reminds me that and I 558 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,280 love people like that. I like to see people, I want to 559 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,400 hype them up. I want them to hype me up. 560 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,040 I you know, I don't ever want to be that person that says, Oh, 561 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,000 you can't do that. I think, I think you can do it. 562 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,400 Yeah. And I also don't think people 563 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120 should use age as, oh, well, they're too old. 564 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,080 No, I'm 51. I can do it. 565 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,800 You can do it. Everybody can do it. 566 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,840 And I just think that he would. He would just do that. 567 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,320 You know, I miss him. I miss him being on TV and, you 568 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,840 know, just listening to him talk. 569 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,320 It's interesting what you said about, you know, who he the 570 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,720 different audience he would talk to. 571 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,440 And I think sometimes rightly or wrongly, but again, even over 572 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,240 here, politicians can can be accused of being sort of stuffy 573 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440 and look down at people and that. 574 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,720 And I I think sometimes depending on their sort of the 575 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,680 background, maybe that's their lifestyle. 576 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360 You know, they've always been around that kind of person or, 577 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,520 or that kind of class level. But yeah, I think Obama, 578 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,720 definitely, you could see him talking to different groups of 579 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920 people and it felt natural to him. 580 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040 I think that's what I'm trying to say is maybe sometimes some 581 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,920 politicians when they're talking to, you know, whether it's 582 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,520 school children or groups in the community don't feel natural. 583 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,120 But he had that bit of or he had that naturalness around him when 584 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,560 he when he was talking, didn't he? 585 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,240 I, I totally agree. He is the type of person like he 586 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,320 went to Harvard, but he was in Chicago and he also helped 587 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,240 people, you know, that were not how, what can I, how can I word 588 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,320 that not on his level? Maybe that's where, you know, 589 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240 like, OK, he went to Harvard, he did this, he did that, he did 590 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,440 this. But he could talk to people and 591 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,920 it wouldn't matter to him where, you know, where they were in 592 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,120 life. He could he would love them. 593 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,800 You know, he I should say he does love people. 594 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,960 You know, you can tell that just by the way he looks at people 595 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840 and the way he talks to people. You know, he could see people in 596 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,160 the White House and he'd shake their hand that were the 597 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,320 janitor. And, you know, he cared about 598 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760 people. And you know, that's, that's a 599 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,800 rare thing to get so high on a level to be the president, to be 600 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,440 up here and to still care about the little people. 601 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,480 I think that's that shows. And I think that's why Mr. 602 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,239 Rogers and him would get along so well, because Mr. Rogers 603 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,040 would see that in him. Yeah, you've got so, yeah. 604 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,320 No, no, no, I get that so far. I mean, the two guests you've 605 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520 chosen, definitely, it sounds like. 606 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,120 And again, not being a Mr. Rogers expert, but I've got that 607 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,560 level of empathy and humanity around them right. 608 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,320 That's what I like. We don't hang around people that 609 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,360 aren't nice. You know, and oh, it's, it's 610 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,639 funny, sorry, just to pick up on something you said as well, like 611 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,360 you said about not liking people that tell or, or you wouldn't be 612 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,199 someone who says you can't do something. 613 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,360 You said, you know, you're 51 and and you're doing this. 614 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,960 I'm, you know, I'm knocking on the door of of 50 myself. 615 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,280 And you know, if you'd have said to me sort of just a few years 616 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,400 off 50, I'd be starting up a podcast. 617 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,120 And I look on social media and they're all these gamers. 618 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,480 And there are these people that say, oh, they've turned 30. 619 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,440 Who, where are my 30 year old gamers at? 620 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,960 And I was taking 30. Look, you know I'm I'm knocking 621 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,320 on 50 and I'm still doing all that and you're making me feel 622 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,480 bad now. No, like there's some I see on 623 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,560 Twitter sometimes that they're like, oh, they're like 25 and 624 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,480 they're over the hill. I'm like, oh God, then shoot me. 625 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,360 Like I guess I should and be allowed to live then? 626 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,760 Yeah, and but it's also like when when you see people say, 627 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,280 no, you don't need to check age anymore. 628 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,600 If the if the, the birth, you know, sort of from 2000 or 629 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,600 something, because they're, they're, they're 25 now and 630 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,360 you're thinking, wow, how how much time has gone? 631 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,280 You know, it's, it's incredible. And yeah, the body sometimes 632 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,320 lets me know how old I am, but the mind is still since I'm 23. 633 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,240 That's the problem. I know it really does your your 634 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,080 mind. I think we cut our mind. 635 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,960 Everything cuts off at a certain point. 636 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,080 It really does. But I still feel like you can't 637 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,520 tell me that I don't feel younger, you know? 638 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,680 Like I don't know what 51's supposed to feel like. 639 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,640 It's funny. If you talk to, oh, I talk to my 640 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,960 friends. If you talk to people, there's 641 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,000 an age that their mind that I think you hit it right, has got 642 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200 stuck at and everyone's got that age. 643 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,640 It's funny. It's funny. 644 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,400 OK. So, yeah, so we've had Mr. Obama 645 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,520 come in. I've had to sit up straight now 646 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,280 when I've seen the the pedigree of your guests that have come. 647 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,960 In no, it's casual because because they're casual people. 648 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120 That's true. Actually, that's true. 649 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,680 That's true. So what are we having for our 650 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,520 dessert? Well, I figured that, you know, 651 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,120 Mr. Rogers is kind of, you know, laid back. 652 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,520 Barack Obama's laid back. So we would have like an apple 653 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,360 crisp or an apple cobbler with vanilla ice cream. 654 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,120 I just think, I think they would like that classic tree, you 655 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,600 know, like it. It's something probably Mr. 656 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,880 Rogers grew up with, something that Obama knows, I'm sure quite 657 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,560 well. Is that apple crisp? 658 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,200 You know, I was like, that's just just a good thing. 659 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:21,320 So I'm just trying, I'm just trying to look. 660 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,440 So it's an Apple cobbler. Is it like a pie is so it's got 661 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,640 the the topping or is it all mixed up? 662 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,160 I'm just seeing. The apple cobbler has more of a 663 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,160 doughy consistency. Than. 664 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,520 Your apple crisp. It's kind of like a Peach 665 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,400 cobbler, but you just use apples. 666 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920 OK, OK. I mean, again, you can't fold 667 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,280 this. It's a nice classic. 668 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,240 It's what's the word? It's, it's like a, a cosy food, 669 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,080 isn't it a homely food? It's it's that nice, comforting, 670 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,480 comforting. I think they would, like, 671 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,640 appreciate that, you know, they would be like, yeah, you know, 672 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,000 after we had our nice meal and, you know, that it would just hit 673 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 the spot. It would be something, you know, 674 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000 that they would know, that they would enjoy, you know? 675 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,440 And you started with tomato soup and then you had salmon for 676 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Maine. So it hasn't been that heavy a 677 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,800 meal. So yeah, I could do a huge 678 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,560 portion of cobbler right now an ice cream. 679 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,800 Get that vanilla bean ice cream. Oh, there you go, there you go. 680 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,880 The question I always, I keep forgetting to ask until I've 681 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,040 already had the the dessert given is are you a dessert 682 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,640 person? Because if I went to a 683 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,160 restaurant and it was a 2 course meal, I'd go for a starter and a 684 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,280 main rather than a main and a dessert. 685 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,360 So where? Where do your tastes lie? 686 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,640 If I went out to eat, I would probably want the starter and 687 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520 the meal and not the dessert because it's so it's so 688 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,000 expensive to eat dessert out. I am a sweet person. 689 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,680 Like I'm horribly a sweet person. 690 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,520 Like, Oh my God, I love anything sweet, but I have to stay away 691 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,200 from it. I have diabetes, so I have to 692 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,760 kind of be like, OK, you know, I have to, I have to kind of 693 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,120 manage everything. So a lot of times my treat at 694 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,680 the end of my meal is going to be something like a little piece 695 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,200 of sugar free chocolate. OK, Yeah. 696 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,560 That was one of the fun things that I found out about myself 697 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,360 was the diabetes. That was fun. 698 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,760 Yeah. And I said it's just constant 699 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,320 managing then, isn't it? It's. 700 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Yeah. And it's, you know, I have a 701 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,800 normal weight. I look normal. 702 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,720 I, I, I had a lot of thirst, but I just thought that was normal. 703 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,000 And I went to go do a test and the nurse called me and she's 704 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,480 like, you need to go see your doctor. 705 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,760 And yeah, I found out I have adult onset diabetes. 706 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,680 So it was crazy. I'm not weird like you would not 707 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,000 think that, but I take metformin. 708 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,760 But I also have to watch like what I eat and everything. 709 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 And that sucks whenever you're such a sweetie, you know? 710 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,440 Yeah, yeah. Because I don't know about the 711 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,800 States and to be honest, as I said, I don't tend to eat out 712 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,960 that often here. It's normally when I'm on 713 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,400 holiday. But I remember sort of years ago 714 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,160 when, you know, you used to go to restaurants as, as a family, 715 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,040 the desserts were just basically, it was chocolate on 716 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080 chocolate on chocolate with some cream, maybe some chocolate and 717 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,240 chocolate and a bit more cream. And it feels like if it wasn't 718 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,800 that the other option was like a bit of vanilla, a scoop of 719 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,280 vanilla ice cream. So, you know, it doesn't feel 720 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,720 like the range of desserts was there to to kind of cater well 721 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,720 and and I guess you can't have too many, right? 722 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,920 But it just felt like it was all chocolate based for for a long 723 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,400 time. I know it used to be all 724 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,360 chocolate based and now you have things like cheesecake, you 725 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,720 know, Strawberry Shortcake, like like all kinds of desserts and 726 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:56,920 they really push those at the end of the meal and you're like, 727 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,080 I just ate 25 lbs of but you know, French fries. 728 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,440 I do not need the dessert. Oh, and coming from a brick 729 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,920 going to the the states, the size of your portions is is just 730 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,040 unreal as well. So. 731 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,880 And normally with what I do is I always cut everything in half 732 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,640 and I'll have like half of it for lunch and then half of it 733 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,120 for lunch the next day. Yeah, that's what I do. 734 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,480 I cheat. Yeah, it's, it's it's incredible 735 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,200 when when we come over there because we've we finally learnt 736 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160 after a number of trips, we finally learnt maybe that we 737 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,680 should like share some food rather than order we. 738 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,040 Do a lot of food sharing here, but well, I mean, some people 739 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,080 might not share their food, but in the United States, you know, 740 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,560 like you can split a meal with somebody and it's not a big 741 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,360 deal. Yeah, and, and the concept of 742 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,560 the doggy bag over there, I mean, it's not really a thing 743 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,280 here to take food back with you. It's not really a thing we 744 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,280 overly do here. You know, I, I think that's so 745 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,160 weird that y'all don't have doggy bags. 746 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,160 Like well what are you going to like? 747 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,800 What do you do with it if you don't want to eat the rest of 748 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,320 it? Well, the the portions aren't 749 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,440 that big enough for there to be anything left with me. 750 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,920 OK, No, there is some and you can ask that if, if you're in a 751 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000 restaurant, you can ask can you take it away? 752 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,120 And, and often they will go get you something. 753 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,360 But you know, when, when we're over in the States, it's it's 754 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,560 just natural. It's like, can I take this to go 755 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,600 and and it'll come back in a in a container and it's just such a 756 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,240 natural thing. And usually they'll ask you, you 757 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,080 want a drink together, you want you want a soda. 758 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,800 OK, you want a. Soda together, they'll they'll 759 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,760 say that all the time. OK, so who is the final guest? 760 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,640 Final guest is John Oliver. Oh, right. 761 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,560 OK, yeah. So why? 762 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,520 Why have you picked him? I love John Oliver. 763 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,680 I think he's smart and he's funny and I think he would round 764 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,360 out my guest because he would, you know, I don't know, He's, 765 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,720 he's political, but he also knows how to talk to all 766 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,120 different people. And I don't. 767 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,760 I just think he brings so much to the, the dinner. 768 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,440 I just think it's funny. Yeah, it's funny because he's, 769 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,280 he's obviously he's done a few things on, on British TV, but 770 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,560 he's, he's more now of an American figure, isn't he? 771 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,240 Yeah, he got his American citizenship, so I think he's his 772 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,360 wife live here. Yeah. 773 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,960 So he's kind of Americanized now. 774 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,240 But I actually think he's funny, and I think he would round out 775 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:40,960 everybody because Mr. Rogers kind of has that comedic timing, 776 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,520 You know, it, it might not come off as like real strong, but I 777 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,440 think he could appreciate John Oliver. 778 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,000 And I know Barack Obama would appreciate John Oliver too, I 779 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,560 think. Yeah, like I said, he's a nice 780 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,240 link between the two of them. Right. 781 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,440 I, I want all my guests to be able to link together and all my 782 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,960 guests to be comfortable with one another. 783 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,200 I didn't want anybody to strife with one another or have issues 784 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:12,160 or, you know, feel that they would have to, you know, argue 785 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,440 amongst each other at the table. So I just think combining all 786 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,160 three of my guests, Mr. Rogers, Barack Obama, John Oliver, it 787 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,440 would be fun. It would be, you would have a 788 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,680 lot to talk about. There would be so much material 789 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,960 that you could talk about and plus John Oliver could give you 790 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,240 his perspective from the, you know, the other side of the 791 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,680 world, too. He knew what it was like growing 792 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,800 up, you know, in Europe and. Yeah, I. 793 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,200 Just think that's important to have all types of people, you 794 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,880 know, sitting down at your table. 795 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,600 Yeah. Well, this is what I was going 796 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,640 to say in In a weird quirk of coincidence, we mentioned 797 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,520 Birmingham, AL a short while ago. 798 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480 He's from Birmingham, England, so. 799 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,200 Oh yeah, yeah, He went to, Oh my gosh, he went to call it 800 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,760 Cambridge Christ. College. 801 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,360 Yeah, yeah. Christ College. 802 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,120 Cambridge College. Yeah, yeah. 803 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,840 Sorry, I, I knew it was something like that. 804 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,600 I just couldn't think of the name of it. 805 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,800 But yeah, I think having all three of those men with the, you 806 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,040 know, high degrees, but also able to empathize with the 807 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,600 little person, that's just that amazes me because we need smart 808 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,240 people that can help the people that can't help themselves. 809 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,120 Yeah. And funnily enough, I'm just 810 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,680 looking at this because I've not looked at him before. 811 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,920 He so he was, I think he was born in Birmingham, but he grew 812 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,520 up and went to school just down the road from me where I am. 813 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,800 Yes. So he's he's pretty much local 814 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,080 to where I am. So there you go. 815 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,040 So we definitely have a few things in common to talk about 816 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,280 there. Yeah. 817 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,880 You definitely would because he would be right there. 818 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,000 You would know like local places and stuff. 819 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,240 That would be really cool. Yeah, and the other the other 820 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,480 thing when you picked him. So yeah, America really does 821 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,160 have like those big evening show presenters, you know, like The 822 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,920 Who was it? Was it like Letterman? 823 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,400 Then you had James Corden for a long time, another Brit. 824 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,600 Your kind of evening TV or late night TV seems to us anyway to 825 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,040 to kind of be made of those long term big personalities front and 826 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,000 nose topical shows. And he's on HBOI think he does 827 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,880 his little show on HBO. Stephen Colbert is another one 828 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,080 that does the late night show. I can't remember Jimmy Fallon, 829 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600 all those kind of people. They do like the late night 830 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,240 shows. OK. 831 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,240 So again, another fascinating guess. 832 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,080 I mean, I'm having a great time here. 833 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,280 So I think you've answered this question, but I'd like to try a 834 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,080 few more questions at the end. So I've asked, do you think your 835 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,240 guests would get along? And I think that's an easy one 836 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,800 to answer, right? Oh yeah, I think they would get 837 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,000 along amazingly well. I think they would really like 838 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,320 jump on Mr. Rogers. I think they would just have so 839 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,280 many questions for him. Yeah. 840 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,240 OK. So the next question then is 841 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,480 what music would you be playing throughout the evening? 842 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,920 Well, I think everybody would be talking so much that we would 843 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,240 need something like jazz or instrumental music. 844 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:20,000 Nothing that would be overpowering, just a little 845 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,240 noise in the background, you know, just a little noise in the 846 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:25,400 background. Not, not anything, you know, 847 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,640 blaring. But I think jazz would go over 848 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,520 well. Are you a music person? 849 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,560 No. You know what? 850 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,120 No. I like music, I like to play it 851 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,360 in my car, but I'm not like, I couldn't tell you who was a jazz 852 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,320 person. I would just put it on Spotify 853 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,920 Jazz and. That's fair. 854 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,200 It's so easy now. It's so easy now, right? 855 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,200 My my son Landon, he now he's a huge music person. 856 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,720 We'd probably have him make the the list. 857 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,960 He. Knows all about music. 858 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,800 Yeah, you said he's great in the kitchen and he'd be putting the 859 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,680 the music list together. Yeah, that's. 860 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,960 Right, we'll put him to work. OK, so we've finished the meal. 861 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,800 What film would you put on at the end of the meal? 862 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,920 So it's, you know, I always like to say, is there a film that 863 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,960 would say, right, if you want to get to know Cindy a little bit 864 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,640 better, this is a film we're watching. 865 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,200 I thought everybody would do well with the pursuit of 866 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,960 happiness, with Will Smith all. Right. 867 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:26,760 Yeah, I've not seen that one yet. 868 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,440 Oh, now that was really good. Yes. 869 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,000 Like his little boy. And he's trying to, you know, do 870 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600 better for himself. I just think that that movie 871 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,600 would probably resonate with every single one of my guest. 872 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,760 I think that if we could actually watch a movie instead 873 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,200 of talk, so, you know, like I think our main thing would 874 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,880 probably be talking, but if we got to watch a movie, I think 875 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,280 that would be our movie. Yeah, actually, yeah. 876 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,200 It's very apartment film I think, isn't it? 877 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,080 I think they would all appreciate it. 878 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,440 I'm probably sure they, you know, John Oliver and Barack 879 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,120 Obama, Obama have seen it. But, you know, Mr. Rogers missed 880 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,400 out unfortunately, but I think he would really appreciate the 881 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,640 film. OK. 882 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,600 And the final question is, if you could eat anywhere in the 883 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,840 world, where would it be and why? 884 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,200 New York, I really just like, I would want to go to. 885 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,480 I like, I'm like a city person. I'm not, you know, I like, I 886 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,960 just think there would be like so many places to eat there that 887 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,120 we don't have here. And we have a Sam's House of 888 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,680 Pizza. It's in my neighborhood and 889 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600 well, not in my neighborhood, but it's, you know, in in our 890 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,800 area. And that guy is chicago-based 891 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,120 pizza and people just rave and brave about it. 892 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,480 And I just would like to go experience some pizza somewhere 893 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,800 else and some Italian food made by like real Italian people, 894 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,920 not, you know, people from Sims. They just experienced some 895 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,360 culture. No, I get that because that's 896 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,080 actually where I was a few weeks ago. 897 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,840 Me and my wife went to New York for a few days and it's just 898 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,640 great. You can get everything there, 899 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,360 you know, And because we were there many years ago and I'd 900 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,280 never got the, the pizza slice. And I said to her, we've got to 901 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,600 get, I want a pizza slice this time, you know, not a pizza, but 902 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,600 the, the slice. And we went to this one place 903 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,880 and I'd, I'd, I'd hadn't been feeling that brilliant that day. 904 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,080 So I only had the one slice, but it was so nice and she had one. 905 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,160 It was so nice. We said the next day we've got 906 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,840 to go back and it shut early. It was our last night and it 907 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,440 shut early. So we've missed it. 908 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,600 And so I'm like, we've got to go back again now at some point 909 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,560 just. I would just like to experience 910 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,240 like a Jewish, like a Jewish delicatessen, you know, like 911 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:53,360 that kind of thing, and just some really good New York food 912 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,600 because they're always talking about, you know, New York food. 913 00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:03,320 New York have a hot dog, Yeah. Oh, well, you'd, you'd get it 914 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,400 all there. So yeah, if when you go there, 915 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,800 you have to, you have to come back on and let us know. 916 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,480 That's right. OK, well, look, well, I think 917 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,800 that's come to to the end of the evening. 918 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,080 So yeah, do you just want to do you just want to give a little 919 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680 shout out and just recap your podcast again to everyone 920 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,760 listening before we go? Yeah. 921 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,080 My name is Cindy Brainard and I am the host of the Hypno 922 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,920 Wellness Podcast and you can listen to us everywhere that you 923 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,320 listen to your favorite podcast. Yeah, please do go listen. 924 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,200 You know, it's, it's, I don't know, but I've not heard or come 925 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,840 across many podcasts that, that, that, that does what you do 926 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,520 ultimately. So, yeah, it's, it's great. 927 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,680 And you've got such a nice calm and, and soothing voice as well. 928 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,000 So it's yeah, do and I'll, I'll be putting a link in the show 929 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,920 notes. So, yeah, have a look in there 930 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,680 and, and do subscribe. So, Cindy, thank you for being a 931 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,960 wonderful guest. Thank you, this was so much fun 932 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,720 and I had to sit there and really think about who I wanted 933 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:06,040 and why I'd want them and how I'd arranged things. 934 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,600 I was even like thinking about like how I'd set my table up. 935 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,400 What would I use? Well, if you've got that, you 936 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,000 could tell us. You should have said we. 937 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,680 No, I was like in my mind like thinking of like how I my table 938 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,240 and. Well, it's funny because you 939 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:23,400 know, even with the food, the guess is probably more more so. 940 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,280 But trying to narrow it down to like 1 starter and one main and 941 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,280 one set and the guest trying to pick three, It sounds like it 942 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,080 should be easy. But why don't you start thinking 943 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,760 about it? You'd say, oh, but then I could 944 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,040 have had that person or this person. 945 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,960 Yeah, I know. And you think you really start 946 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,920 to think about, OK, well, why would I have this person? 947 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,560 Who would I? I mean, the first person I 948 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,200 thought of was Barack. Like that he's going to be my 949 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,160 main one no matter what, you know? 950 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,480 Yeah. Like, if you could magically 951 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,760 wish somebody here who would be Barack Obama, he's always going 952 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,760 to be my number one. But I wanted my whole guest 953 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:07,880 arrangement to have fun, be funny, feel comfortable, you 954 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,760 know? Well, as I said, if Eva Barack 955 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,200 is listening or John Oliver, if you're listening, you can pop 956 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,920 round to Cindy's. There's there's a there's a, a 957 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,640 place at the table there. Or if you want to come onto the 958 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,280 show, we'll both talk to you on the show. 959 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,320 So, yeah, if anyone, if anyone listening has got their number, 960 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,800 let them know. All right, let's Cindy, thanks a 961 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,960 lot. I'm sure we'll work a way of 962 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,760 getting you back on again at some point in the future. 963 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,240 As I said, look in the show notes for the Hypno Wellness 964 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,880 link. And all that's left for me to 965 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,280 say is come back next week for another episode of Casting 966 00:53:49,280 --> 00:54:02,000 Views. 234 If I want your opinion, I will give it to you. 967 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,200 Come on.