Hello, and welcome to another episode of Casting Views.
And this week it's a return of Who's Coming to Dinner.
And I feel like I haven't done one of these for a while and I
love doing these. And my guest this week is Cindy
from the Hypno Wellness podcast. So hi, Cindy, how are you doing?
How? Are you doing?
I'm very good, I'm very good. I do love these episodes, mainly
because I get to get to hear people's lovely food ideas and I
finally, after about a year of doing these, learnt my lesson.
I've just had my main meals so because afterwards I always feel
really hungry. So yeah, tell us about yourself
a little bit about yourself and your podcast first.
So I think you've been going for what, a couple of years or just
over a couple of years now, haven't you?
Just over a couple of years, about 2 1/2 years now and I
haven't missed one podcast upload.
So that's a really, I think that's a big accomplishment for
myself. I know that that is really
impressive because I mean, I know there's there's been a few
times where I've had to had to miss it.
I think people underestimate how difficult it can be or time
consuming. It can be put in pug.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it really it, it can.
It can get you sometimes, especially if you don't feel
well. That's no that's the kicker when
you are sick and you still have to do it.
And I had to edit out a bunch of coughing and sniffling.
It's not. That's not fun.
I recently sort of had a bug of some sort, and I was coming to
edit the episodes. And you know when you can just
tell when you've not been feeling well?
Because you can hear it in your own voice, can't you?
Oh yeah, and then you have to listen for every little thing
and you're like, oh, did I sniff too?
Too loud on that part. So, so tell us, tell us a little
bit about the Hypno Wellness podcast.
It really started because I didn't know how to get my
hypnosis out there, to be honest.
I live in the South, in Alabama, and a lot of people just don't
understand it or they're scared of it or they have a
preconceived notion about hypnosis.
And I couldn't think of any other way to do it.
So I was like, you know what, I'm going to start a podcast.
And that just opened up a whole can of worms. 2 1/2 years like
you're telling me your dinner party plans?
I absolutely love it. It's the best thing that I ever
did for myself was to start a podcast.
And I've met so many wonderful people and I've learned so much.
I've learned how to edit. I've learned how to use
different programs and just it, it amazes me, like what you can
learn and what you can do. And I didn't want to go back to
hygiene because I was a hygienist for like 25 years.
And I just kind of was like, you know what, this is what I'm
going to do now. So now I'm a podcaster.
It's incredible. What you said is absolutely
true. I know most podcasters will also
say it, but the community has just been brilliant.
I, I, I didn't imagine when I started doing this that I'd have
so many, you know, people that I, I call friends, you know, and
especially you're in the pack chat as well.
And it's, it's, it's a great group, isn't it?
Like, and I've just met amazing people, like really amazing
people that and if you have any kind of questions or they're,
they're going to help you in a second, they'll DM me.
What do you need? You know, what, what can I do to
help? And that, that just amazes me
too. So you mentioned you're a
hygienist, so you also you are a certified hypnotherapist as
well, right? I was a dental hygienist for
over 25 years. I worked in dental since I was
17 and I was in high school. And I used to get out of school
for like, it was like a program that you did.
So that's how I kind of got started in it.
And then I wanted to be a hygienist.
And then when I was a hygienist, I'd always loved hypnosis.
And I studied it and I got a little certificate in it, but
you could never use it. Nobody ever wanted to say, hey,
yeah, let's do this. Let's see if we can calm a
patient down by using hypnosis. Like they all thought it was
hokey. And, you know, create you're
crazy for wanting to do something like that.
And now it's, I, I guess it's better received now than it
wouldn't used to be. But, you know, back in like the
90s and the early 2000s, like, that wasn't something people
cared for. This is what I was going to ask
you is because absolutely the the 90s, early 2000s, possibly
going back to the 80s, if you said hypnosis to someone, it was
those stage show acts, right? I mean, so when you look at
that, do you think that set the genuine hypnotherapy back
because it, it was seen as like a sideshow, wasn't it?
I agree completely whenever they did things like that.
And we still have those people that are out there that are
doing, you know, the sideshow hypnosis.
And but what they don't see behind the scenes is only a
certain percentage of people can be hypnotized to that degree.
And they have to do, you know, they have to kind of vet people
like they have to see how well you can be hypnotized in order
to do that to somebody. So, you know, it's not just like
randomly walking up to somebody on the side of the road and
going, hey, I'm gonna hypnotize you.
Let me pull your arm. You know, you're hypnotized.
So there's a little bit more behind the scenes than what we
see, but I think that's what a lot of people think hypnosis is,
that it's not to heal. It's not, you know, they just
see it as like, look like a. Chicken and it's definitely, I
think definitely changed in recent years and it is I mean
it's sort of when I say genuine hypnotherapy, it's it's totally
different, isn't it? Or from my understanding you
don't go sort of fully under is it?
It's just entering like a really a state of pure relaxed
relaxedness. That's not even a word.
But you don't your. Mind is there and that's what a
lot of people don't understand about hypnosis.
They think you're supposed to be fully immersed and you're
supposed to do everything that they tell you to do.
And but that's not how hypnosis works.
If you try to hypnosis hypnosis, you try to hypnotize somebody
into doing something that they don't want to do, they're not
going to do it because you're still there.
It's hard to, when you're under, you know you, you know
everything that's going on around you.
So if there was an accident or one of your kids got hurt or you
know, your phone rang, you can pull yourself right out of it.
So there's a difference between being hypnotized and then being
brainwashed. Those are two separate,
completely different things. I know a few people who have
used hypnotherapy for, you know, the classics like smoking or
maybe, you know, they want to drink less of the sugary soda
drinks, etcetera. And they, they, they've kind of
used that. So it's, it's a bit like sort of
suggestive or, or or just getting you into that state
where you can, like you said, just be more, how do I say not,
not at one with yourself, but sort of understand yourself a
little bit more. Right.
And see, in like Europe, y'all are way more progressive about
hypnosis than we are here. You'll have a lot more
practitioners, you have a lot more.
In fact, the, the program that I took was a Scottish man that
that I learned that the second certificate that I got and they
just know so much more. And I guess the US is kind of
falling behind on it, but they need to pick it up because it's
so helpful. It really, really is for
especially for people like you said, that want to stop smoking,
that want to stop to curb their drinking habits, whether it's
soda or alcohol, that it, it helps not only with like your
like you could see your doctor and then go to a hypnotherapist.
And then you've got a team of you know, things and you can
actually see a regular therapist too, along with your doctor,
your therapist and your your hypnotist.
You're doing great. You know, I just wish we could
do more of that here. It surprises me to hear that
because you know, I remember the whole notion or idea of
therapist seemed to be very much an American thing, you know, So
it's like over here now, it's very common, but I'm surprised
the the hypnosis side of things and hasn't also become as
popular. I know that is weird because we
do have a lot of therapists, we just don't have the
hypnotherapist, so I wish we'd get more of that.
And also I think over here, what what's been interesting is in
recent years, I think, and you know, also you could tell me if
I'm wrong, if, if there's been at least any change since COVID
times as well. But I know companies here also,
there's been a whole drive to, you know, employee well-being
and mental health well-being and the whole idea of mindfulness,
etcetera. We've been sort of at one
company, they, they made us do some mindfulness sessions.
And it's just that whole concept of of looking after yourself
really, isn't it? That's amazing that I you know,
you hear about some things like that here, but I guess with the
whole climate that our country is taking, we're kind of seeing
a set back in a lot of things like that.
I mean, y'all are progressing. We are.
And but yeah, like I remember, you know, a while back that
companies would do like mindful retreats and, and stuff like
that, but you haven't really heard of anything like that
right now. I guess they maybe they're just
all worried about, you know, like layoffs and, you know,
stuff like that. But I it, it is helpful, I
think, for you to have people like that that come into your
company and, you know, get people motivated and get people
out of a stuck mindset. I think that's important.
And so your podcast is here to help.
So I, I think as we were saying more than ever in this day and
age, it feels like this sort of thing is definitely needed.
So your episodes are kind of little snippets or not snippets,
but they're, they're kind of nice and they, they, they follow
a certain theme and it's just to, to kind of give support to
people in various scenarios, isn't it, Or various situations.
Right. And I try to do a bunch of
different types. I know that really hurts my
algorithm because you're really supposed to stay in one niche,
you know, like sleep. Now I've done 2 sleep videos in
a row. But this next time I'm going to
start getting more into like eating vegetables and, you know,
things because the water one I think went over really well.
I got a lot of hits on my water, you know, where people wanting
to, to drink more water. That was a big theme.
But yeah, my, my podcast just kind of hits on little snippets
of thanks for Wellness because my, I'm not all into that past
regression And I, I don't like all of that because I just feel
that things with past regression and false memories, and there's
just too much of that in hypnosis.
So I'm not like a Dolores Cannon follower.
She's one of the ones that did all of that past regression and
talked to Nostradamus. Nostradamus can't, I can't say
his name like correctly, but I I just don't believe in all of
that kind of stuff. I think hypnosis is there to
help people, but whenever you turn it into something hookey,
then people are going to turn away from it.
I just don't believe you can talk to your past life and you
know where you lived on a farm and you know, I just, I don't, I
don't understand all that. Yeah, again, I just wonder how
if, if there are certain people who are more suggestive than
others. Oh, definitely, definitely.
You can get. That's why law enforcement
doesn't use hypnosis because of too many.
You can implant memories into people whether you know if
you're doing it or not. So let's say all of that stuff
that happened, I think it was like in the 80s or 90s with the
children. There's a big case of children
that were saying that they had been, you know, hurt by these
people in a daycare and they weren't.
It was just false memories planted by like trying to do
hypnosis on these people. And, you know, it was a big, it
was a big mess. So that's why we don't use it
in, you know, in any kind of law enforcement here, which is a
good thing. Yeah, yeah, because as she said,
you know it can be abused, can't it?
Definitely. And you don't want it to, to
just give people false hope. I think that's sad, you know?
Like. If you use it to, Oh well, I
see, you know, you know, in your memories or stored, this is
where the person is, you know, and it's and you're giving a
person false hope. And I think that's sad.
Yeah, we've already said, you know, so like in the 80s and 90s
you had the whole stage show element.
So hypnosis has already had its fair share of what's worth
taking a, a battering almost in, in the sense of it's what's the
word, it's validity. So now you know, we're in a day
and age now where as, as we've said, it's got a genuine purpose
and it's genuinely helping people.
So and. I think if they keep on that
trajectory of, you know, it helps people, it helps people,
it helps people if we can get that out more and more and more
and and put away that Oh well, we're doing past lives and
talking to, you know, Nostradamus.
Yeah, I, I just, I think it would, it would help people so
much. And that's it.
And you know, just looking at your last few episodes, you've
got a couple of the sleeping, you know, sort of gym, gym
anxiety. I mean, the sleeping one at the
moment I think is very up for me because I've had a few nights
where I've really been struggling and, and it's true.
The thing is I tend to then what I do is put a little earbud in
so the wife doesn't wake up and listen to something because, you
know, you just find it's that distraction.
So, and I guess that's kind of what these these episodes are
for is just to listen to your voice, isn't it?
And just to get that support and and encourage you.
For the first 10 minutes and then usually by 10 minutes, most
people go to sleep in that time in 10 minutes.
Now, some people are harder to fall asleep.
But I, you know, I just didn't want to really get into sleep
hypnosis just because it can just take over your whole
channel and then you just can't. You can do anything else.
That's fine, You know. So I just did two in a row, but
I'm like, Nope, it's time to get back to the other.
Yeah, and variety is good, isn't it?
Like I said, there are so many things that people are looking
for guidance and support in right so.
That's all right. Yeah, so the Hypno Wellness
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Right, we are back. So Cindy, you know, the the
outline, you are going to present your perfect idea of a
dinner party. You are going to present to me
one by one. You're going to have a course.
So it'll be your your starter, your mania dessert.
And each time you'll also introduce a guest that you're
going to invite. I'm already number one.
I'm already made myself comfortable as I always do.
You've sat me in the corner. So yeah.
And oh, and I always keep forgetting the question I was
going to ask actually, are you a foodie person?
Anyway? Do is is cooking something you
enjoy? I cook, I, I'm not a great cook.
My now my Thanksgiving is really nice.
But my son Landon, Oh my gosh, he now he is a he's a huge cook
and he'll like, oh, you got to add this spices and you got to
do it this way and you got and he's taught me so much in the
kitchen compared to what I learned from anybody else.
And he watches videos and stuff like that.
So he, he'll spend an hour making lunch.
That's how like interfered he is.
I am not like that. I will make a sandwich.
That's the same as me. I do love eating my food but I'm
not great at preparing it so. Yep.
So let us start with the starter.
So what are you dishing up? We're going to do a ramekin of
tomato soup with croutons, garlic croutons and some little
like bruschetta. Bruschetta, forgot how they say
it, little sourdough, just kind of a round.
But I like that little starter of the tomato soup.
Yeah, it's a nice soup, isn't it?
Because it's, it's got that sharpness to the taste.
So it's not overly rich. And yeah, the, the bruschetta on
the side. So do you?
Do you enjoy your soups? I do.
I love soup. I love broccoli and cheddar.
It's one of my favorite soups. Oh, that's lovely.
Really good. Yeah, Yeah.
Cheese. Like you can put some cheese on
the tomato soup. That would be it too.
Yeah, yeah, we, my wife makes us a lot of soups, but she loves,
she doesn't make it, but if we're at, she does love to get a
nice French onion soup. Yeah, yeah.
That's really good too. That's a great start to the
mill. So who is the 1st guest that's
coming through the door? Mr. Rogers, I love him.
Oh, OK. I love Mr. Rogers.
You have to explain it a bit because I don't think he was
someone that really made it his way over here as such, but I
understand he's an absolute icon over in in the States, isn't he?
He is, he was a Presbyterian minister and he kind of got
started in TV because he didn't like TV and he wanted a way to
kind of, I guess maybe minister to kids.
He actually has like had a degree in something to do with
TV and he was a minister, but he did it in a way where it wasn't
in your face, you know, like he was just, he taught children to
be kind and loving and caring. He actually had a a black man
out on his show and they both put their feet in a pool
together. And that was something that was
huge because black and white people didn't come together and
do things like that. But he was just a really good
how what would you say? He brought people together and
he taught them kindness. He was funny too.
Like he, you know, he could be funny.
He was witty, smart. He went to Dartmouth, you know,
like he, he was a very well-rounded individual.
And I just think he would just bring so much to a conversation
when you were sitting there with him and you would learn about so
much that happened with civil rights, you know, just stuff
like that. So I think he would be
excellent. Just to go back to what you
said, you know, because his show I think was in the 50s was it or
50s, sixties, 70s. So it was in those early.
It ran all the way up until I think 2001.
I don't think he was in it till 2001, but I, I think he had his
hands in, in it, you know, until then.
When you said his name, the only thing I'm aware of, and I've not
seen it yet, is I believe they've made a film about him or
a documentary called Is It Won't You Be My Neighbor?
Yes, I haven't. I've seen that I really want to
watch it and I keep forgetting because every time you go to
watch something, it's there's so much thrown in your face that
you forget. I need to write it down on a
piece of paper. Well, it's also is it on this
streaming platform, this streaming platform, this
streaming platform. Do you have the streaming
platform? Do you want to pay 299 even
though you have 15 streaming? Yeah, yeah.
Do you want to see it in more definition?
Pay more? Do you want to see it?
The only reason it stands out for me is I know a couple of
people and I was listening to a radio program once and they
watched it and they said it's actually quite emotional, even
though again, over here he wasn't necessarily as big a
name. They said it's actually quite an
emotional story. He was a remarkable man and I
just think people like that are fascinating to me.
People that have had a very rich life and have done things for
others. I just, I don't know.
I think life is all about helping people.
Absolutely no, absolutely. You know, you can either go the
destructive way or the OR the supportive way, right?
And it'd be a better place with the latter.
I think that's a great start both in in guests and foods.
So what are you serving up for your main meal?
Well, I like grilled salmon, so we're going to have grilled
salmon over wild rice and garlic green beans.
That's I just love that. That sounds lovely.
I, you know, because we don't have it that often here at home.
I will like steaks and and burgers and ribs etcetera.
But you know, a nice bit of fish, especially salmon.
Salmon is so flavoursome, but also light as well, isn't it?
It's not going to unless you have a a huge amount of it.
It's not going to feel. It's not going to make you feel
bloated. And it's easy to make and you
can just throw it stuff on top of it and stick it in the oven
and like 25 minutes later it's done.
You know, it's, it's easy. It's, it's, it's not hard.
The garlic green beans. I love those.
Me and my husband went to Atlanta because he had a thing
up there with a post office and we went to a place called Ted
Turner's Montana Grill. It's the guy that used to own
CNN was called Ted Turner. And he opens up a restaurant and
those green beans, me and my husband were just thinking about
them constantly. We're like, Oh my God, we have
to have those green beans. So I just got around and played
in the kitchen and you have to have fresh green beans.
You can't have, you know, frozen or anything to have to be fresh.
And then you put the garlic and the butter, and that's what
makes it. Did I say I wouldn't get hungry?
So I was talking about this after I'd eaten.
So did you say you were from Alabama?
I was born in Fort Walton Beach and in Florida, and then I moved
overseas. My dad was in the Air Force.
I lived in Spain for about almost four years of my life.
Then we moved here and the reason why we came back to
Mobile was because my parents, both of their parents, my mom
and my dad's, they lived here. So that's why I live here now.
I know the only reason I ask. Yeah, no, the only reason I ask
is because, you know, I do wonder.
I know it's sort of like the regional foods in America can be
quite different now. I was, oh, years ago, we did a
tour of the, the South of America.
So it was mainly Louisiana. So we did New Orleans, Memphis,
I think we did go into Mississippi.
So and you mentioned Florida. So I know seafood is is
obviously a big thing or, or or can be a big thing in these days
there. So I was just wondering what
kind of, well, I was going to ask what you grew up with, but
you, you're part Spain. Yeah, Well, I, you know, I
really don't remember what I ate when I was over there.
I honestly don't. My mom, we lived on an Air Force
Base. So it's kind of like, I guess
American food here. We have a Gulf Coast, Gulf Coast
shrimp. That's our big thing here.
Shrimp and oysters. It kind of freaks me out a
little bit because our Bay, we have a lot of spillage into our
Bay and they have a lot of oh, you can't use, you can't eat
them at this time or there's toxic.
It's just it scares me a little bit about eating our fresh Bay
oysters. Like I don't know if I want to
eat that. Let me check the news.
But it's good. And we have, I live in Mobile,
AL, So if you look at Alabama on a map, there's like a little
split in Alabama. Oh, yeah, there it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
And we have, and there's a bridge that goes across there
and there's a land mass that's there just a little bit.
And that's called the Causeway. And there's a lot of amazing
restaurants on the Causeway. If you ever come back down,
you'll have to go to the Causeway.
Just ask them did they say anything on the news about the
oysters? Yeah, I'm just looking at it now
so I can see exactly where you are.
Yeah, because I think I this trip I did did go into
Birmingham. Oh yes.
Oh, Birmingham is lovely. In fact, we would love both me
and my husband have elderly parents.
My mother is in a nursing home and my father-in-law is at his
house, but he has a nurse. And we can't move until, you
know, I, I don't even like to say that, you know, you know,
but Birmingham is one of the places that we just would love
to move to. Yeah, and, and I love that whole
area. Yes.
At Nashville, Yeah. I'm just, I'm just remembering
the route now. Yeah, we went Nashville.
I think we we landed in Atlanta, but then we went to Nashville.
Memphis, Yeah. Down to New Orleans and into
Birmingham. Yeah.
And that, that the whole area, the the whole food and culture
of that area was just great. You know, even Florida, what
what was going to say where I was leading to because you
picked salmon is the seafood there is great.
Now I've said so many times on these episodes, you know,
Britain being an island, you'd think we'd have like amazing
seafood. But this thing that always gets
me is when I'm in the States and I have shrimp now to ask shrimp
a tiny, tiny little things. But over there, there's these
massive, tasty, juicy sort of bits.
We, we have shrimp, y'all have prawns and there's a difference
between the two of them because I used to think that y'all were
just saying the word prawn as a word for shrimp, you know, like
it's, it was the same thing. Well, it's not a prawn is
actually different than a shrimp is.
So, and we have different types of shrimp.
So they get picked up at certain times of the year or they get
picked up from certain depths of the sea bed.
So you can have things that taste almost like a lobster if
you get the royal Reds and as you bring them up from the the
ocean, it does something to them, I guess it gives them the
bins like a diver wood and it makes them turn like it, it
almost like makes them taste a different way because they're
brought up so quickly. But yeah, it's very interesting.
Like, you know, that the seafood that we have, it's really good.
Like it's good. It's just, it's scary.
That's all of the, the, you know, the pollutants, I guess
the Gulf. Again, in in this day and age,
it's always a thing to think about, isn't it?
But yet, no, I know exactly where you are and if I'm ever in
that area. Yep, you've given me that that.
Situation. You'll have to come.
You'll have to come by. OK, so having salmon, who is the
next guest on your list? It is Barack Obama.
Oh, wow. OK, Yeah.
Oh. My God, Oh my God, I love that
man. And for one, I think he's
gorgeous. He's tall, he's funny, he's
smart. He went to Harvard.
I, I love smart men. That's just my, I, I love a
smart man. I, I, I just, I and A, and a
person that is a, an orator, I guess somebody that can speak
and has clarity and is lovely. And I don't know, he just he has
a cadence that is beautiful when he speaks, like when he does
like I just and I and he just seems like he would be a
fascinating person. And then Mr. Rogers in him, I
think would just get along. It's like they would get along.
It would be like so amazing. That's an amazing guest and
definitely both of these are the first time I've had them on this
show, but not on the show mentioned on the show.
But you know, if, if Mr. Obama would like to go on the show, if
he's listening. But I I know what you mean.
And even what what I was going to say is like, even if you for
now, I know it's hard with him as a guest, but if you put
politics aside, he's just yeah, there was that aura about him.
And as you said, as a someone on the world stage and as a as a
leader and as a speaker, there was that charisma.
And you listened even as someone over here, you know, who's.
Well, I was going to say we're so distant from US politics, but
that's not really the case anymore.
I think over many years sort of where we're becoming entwined
really. But I, I would say that here as
well, even some of our leaders, you know, recently, they're not
always necessarily someone who can put confidence in you, you
know, for, for a little bit of term.
And we, we've had some leaders in the past who have done that.
And, and again, political persuasion aside, it's yeah, he
had that he he drew your attention, didn't he?
Did and I just I love a smart per like when you can put a
sentence together and really draw somebody in and not just
using nonsense. And you know, he he just made
you feel like there's a certain way that he made you feel like
you could do anything. He's that that person.
He could hype you up, I think. I think he would be like, man,
you can do it. You can do it, you can do it,
you know, and then you could go play basketball with him, you
know, and even if you sucked, he would be like, man, you're doing
the best job, you know, like he just just reminds me that and I
love people like that. I like to see people, I want to
hype them up. I want them to hype me up.
I you know, I don't ever want to be that person that says, Oh,
you can't do that. I think, I think you can do it.
Yeah. And I also don't think people
should use age as, oh, well, they're too old.
No, I'm 51. I can do it.
You can do it. Everybody can do it.
And I just think that he would. He would just do that.
You know, I miss him. I miss him being on TV and, you
know, just listening to him talk.
It's interesting what you said about, you know, who he the
different audience he would talk to.
And I think sometimes rightly or wrongly, but again, even over
here, politicians can can be accused of being sort of stuffy
and look down at people and that.
And I I think sometimes depending on their sort of the
background, maybe that's their lifestyle.
You know, they've always been around that kind of person or,
or that kind of class level. But yeah, I think Obama,
definitely, you could see him talking to different groups of
people and it felt natural to him.
I think that's what I'm trying to say is maybe sometimes some
politicians when they're talking to, you know, whether it's
school children or groups in the community don't feel natural.
But he had that bit of or he had that naturalness around him when
he when he was talking, didn't he?
I, I totally agree. He is the type of person like he
went to Harvard, but he was in Chicago and he also helped
people, you know, that were not how, what can I, how can I word
that not on his level? Maybe that's where, you know,
like, OK, he went to Harvard, he did this, he did that, he did
this. But he could talk to people and
it wouldn't matter to him where, you know, where they were in
life. He could he would love them.
You know, he I should say he does love people.
You know, you can tell that just by the way he looks at people
and the way he talks to people. You know, he could see people in
the White House and he'd shake their hand that were the
janitor. And, you know, he cared about
people. And you know, that's, that's a
rare thing to get so high on a level to be the president, to be
up here and to still care about the little people.
I think that's that shows. And I think that's why Mr.
Rogers and him would get along so well, because Mr. Rogers
would see that in him. Yeah, you've got so, yeah.
No, no, no, I get that so far. I mean, the two guests you've
chosen, definitely, it sounds like.
And again, not being a Mr. Rogers expert, but I've got that
level of empathy and humanity around them right.
That's what I like. We don't hang around people that
aren't nice. You know, and oh, it's, it's
funny, sorry, just to pick up on something you said as well, like
you said about not liking people that tell or, or you wouldn't be
someone who says you can't do something.
You said, you know, you're 51 and and you're doing this.
I'm, you know, I'm knocking on the door of of 50 myself.
And you know, if you'd have said to me sort of just a few years
off 50, I'd be starting up a podcast.
And I look on social media and they're all these gamers.
And there are these people that say, oh, they've turned 30.
Who, where are my 30 year old gamers at?
And I was taking 30. Look, you know I'm I'm knocking
on 50 and I'm still doing all that and you're making me feel
bad now. No, like there's some I see on
Twitter sometimes that they're like, oh, they're like 25 and
they're over the hill. I'm like, oh God, then shoot me.
Like I guess I should and be allowed to live then?
Yeah, and but it's also like when when you see people say,
no, you don't need to check age anymore.
If the if the, the birth, you know, sort of from 2000 or
something, because they're, they're, they're 25 now and
you're thinking, wow, how how much time has gone?
You know, it's, it's incredible. And yeah, the body sometimes
lets me know how old I am, but the mind is still since I'm 23.
That's the problem. I know it really does your your
mind. I think we cut our mind.
Everything cuts off at a certain point.
It really does. But I still feel like you can't
tell me that I don't feel younger, you know?
Like I don't know what 51's supposed to feel like.
It's funny. If you talk to, oh, I talk to my
friends. If you talk to people, there's
an age that their mind that I think you hit it right, has got
stuck at and everyone's got that age.
It's funny. It's funny.
OK. So, yeah, so we've had Mr. Obama
come in. I've had to sit up straight now
when I've seen the the pedigree of your guests that have come.
In no, it's casual because because they're casual people.
That's true. Actually, that's true.
That's true. So what are we having for our
dessert? Well, I figured that, you know,
Mr. Rogers is kind of, you know, laid back.
Barack Obama's laid back. So we would have like an apple
crisp or an apple cobbler with vanilla ice cream.
I just think, I think they would like that classic tree, you
know, like it. It's something probably Mr.
Rogers grew up with, something that Obama knows, I'm sure quite
well. Is that apple crisp?
You know, I was like, that's just just a good thing.
So I'm just trying, I'm just trying to look.
So it's an Apple cobbler. Is it like a pie is so it's got
the the topping or is it all mixed up?
I'm just seeing. The apple cobbler has more of a
doughy consistency. Than.
Your apple crisp. It's kind of like a Peach
cobbler, but you just use apples.
OK, OK. I mean, again, you can't fold
this. It's a nice classic.
It's what's the word? It's, it's like a, a cosy food,
isn't it a homely food? It's it's that nice, comforting,
comforting. I think they would, like,
appreciate that, you know, they would be like, yeah, you know,
after we had our nice meal and, you know, that it would just hit
the spot. It would be something, you know,
that they would know, that they would enjoy, you know?
And you started with tomato soup and then you had salmon for
Maine. So it hasn't been that heavy a
meal. So yeah, I could do a huge
portion of cobbler right now an ice cream.
Get that vanilla bean ice cream. Oh, there you go, there you go.
The question I always, I keep forgetting to ask until I've
already had the the dessert given is are you a dessert
person? Because if I went to a
restaurant and it was a 2 course meal, I'd go for a starter and a
main rather than a main and a dessert.
So where? Where do your tastes lie?
If I went out to eat, I would probably want the starter and
the meal and not the dessert because it's so it's so
expensive to eat dessert out. I am a sweet person.
Like I'm horribly a sweet person.
Like, Oh my God, I love anything sweet, but I have to stay away
from it. I have diabetes, so I have to
kind of be like, OK, you know, I have to, I have to kind of
manage everything. So a lot of times my treat at
the end of my meal is going to be something like a little piece
of sugar free chocolate. OK, Yeah.
That was one of the fun things that I found out about myself
was the diabetes. That was fun.
Yeah. And I said it's just constant
managing then, isn't it? It's.
Yeah. And it's, you know, I have a
normal weight. I look normal.
I, I, I had a lot of thirst, but I just thought that was normal.
And I went to go do a test and the nurse called me and she's
like, you need to go see your doctor.
And yeah, I found out I have adult onset diabetes.
So it was crazy. I'm not weird like you would not
think that, but I take metformin.
But I also have to watch like what I eat and everything.
And that sucks whenever you're such a sweetie, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Because I don't know about the
States and to be honest, as I said, I don't tend to eat out
that often here. It's normally when I'm on
holiday. But I remember sort of years ago
when, you know, you used to go to restaurants as, as a family,
the desserts were just basically, it was chocolate on
chocolate on chocolate with some cream, maybe some chocolate and
chocolate and a bit more cream. And it feels like if it wasn't
that the other option was like a bit of vanilla, a scoop of
vanilla ice cream. So, you know, it doesn't feel
like the range of desserts was there to to kind of cater well
and and I guess you can't have too many, right?
But it just felt like it was all chocolate based for for a long
time. I know it used to be all
chocolate based and now you have things like cheesecake, you
know, Strawberry Shortcake, like like all kinds of desserts and
they really push those at the end of the meal and you're like,
I just ate 25 lbs of but you know, French fries.
I do not need the dessert. Oh, and coming from a brick
going to the the states, the size of your portions is is just
unreal as well. So.
And normally with what I do is I always cut everything in half
and I'll have like half of it for lunch and then half of it
for lunch the next day. Yeah, that's what I do.
I cheat. Yeah, it's, it's it's incredible
when when we come over there because we've we finally learnt
after a number of trips, we finally learnt maybe that we
should like share some food rather than order we.
Do a lot of food sharing here, but well, I mean, some people
might not share their food, but in the United States, you know,
like you can split a meal with somebody and it's not a big
deal. Yeah, and, and the concept of
the doggy bag over there, I mean, it's not really a thing
here to take food back with you. It's not really a thing we
overly do here. You know, I, I think that's so
weird that y'all don't have doggy bags.
Like well what are you going to like?
What do you do with it if you don't want to eat the rest of
it? Well, the the portions aren't
that big enough for there to be anything left with me.
OK, No, there is some and you can ask that if, if you're in a
restaurant, you can ask can you take it away?
And, and often they will go get you something.
But you know, when, when we're over in the States, it's it's
just natural. It's like, can I take this to go
and and it'll come back in a in a container and it's just such a
natural thing. And usually they'll ask you, you
want a drink together, you want you want a soda.
OK, you want a. Soda together, they'll they'll
say that all the time. OK, so who is the final guest?
Final guest is John Oliver. Oh, right.
OK, yeah. So why?
Why have you picked him? I love John Oliver.
I think he's smart and he's funny and I think he would round
out my guest because he would, you know, I don't know, He's,
he's political, but he also knows how to talk to all
different people. And I don't.
I just think he brings so much to the, the dinner.
I just think it's funny. Yeah, it's funny because he's,
he's obviously he's done a few things on, on British TV, but
he's, he's more now of an American figure, isn't he?
Yeah, he got his American citizenship, so I think he's his
wife live here. Yeah.
So he's kind of Americanized now.
But I actually think he's funny, and I think he would round out
everybody because Mr. Rogers kind of has that comedic timing,
You know, it, it might not come off as like real strong, but I
think he could appreciate John Oliver.
And I know Barack Obama would appreciate John Oliver too, I
think. Yeah, like I said, he's a nice
link between the two of them. Right.
I, I want all my guests to be able to link together and all my
guests to be comfortable with one another.
I didn't want anybody to strife with one another or have issues
or, you know, feel that they would have to, you know, argue
amongst each other at the table. So I just think combining all
three of my guests, Mr. Rogers, Barack Obama, John Oliver, it
would be fun. It would be, you would have a
lot to talk about. There would be so much material
that you could talk about and plus John Oliver could give you
his perspective from the, you know, the other side of the
world, too. He knew what it was like growing
up, you know, in Europe and. Yeah, I.
Just think that's important to have all types of people, you
know, sitting down at your table.
Yeah. Well, this is what I was going
to say in In a weird quirk of coincidence, we mentioned
Birmingham, AL a short while ago.
He's from Birmingham, England, so.
Oh yeah, yeah, He went to, Oh my gosh, he went to call it
Cambridge Christ. College.
Yeah, yeah. Christ College.
Cambridge College. Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, I, I knew it was something like that.
I just couldn't think of the name of it.
But yeah, I think having all three of those men with the, you
know, high degrees, but also able to empathize with the
little person, that's just that amazes me because we need smart
people that can help the people that can't help themselves.
Yeah. And funnily enough, I'm just
looking at this because I've not looked at him before.
He so he was, I think he was born in Birmingham, but he grew
up and went to school just down the road from me where I am.
Yes. So he's he's pretty much local
to where I am. So there you go.
So we definitely have a few things in common to talk about
there. Yeah.
You definitely would because he would be right there.
You would know like local places and stuff.
That would be really cool. Yeah, and the other the other
thing when you picked him. So yeah, America really does
have like those big evening show presenters, you know, like The
Who was it? Was it like Letterman?
Then you had James Corden for a long time, another Brit.
Your kind of evening TV or late night TV seems to us anyway to
to kind of be made of those long term big personalities front and
nose topical shows. And he's on HBOI think he does
his little show on HBO. Stephen Colbert is another one
that does the late night show. I can't remember Jimmy Fallon,
all those kind of people. They do like the late night
shows. OK.
So again, another fascinating guess.
I mean, I'm having a great time here.
So I think you've answered this question, but I'd like to try a
few more questions at the end. So I've asked, do you think your
guests would get along? And I think that's an easy one
to answer, right? Oh yeah, I think they would get
along amazingly well. I think they would really like
jump on Mr. Rogers. I think they would just have so
many questions for him. Yeah.
OK. So the next question then is
what music would you be playing throughout the evening?
Well, I think everybody would be talking so much that we would
need something like jazz or instrumental music.
Nothing that would be overpowering, just a little
noise in the background, you know, just a little noise in the
background. Not, not anything, you know,
blaring. But I think jazz would go over
well. Are you a music person?
No. You know what?
No. I like music, I like to play it
in my car, but I'm not like, I couldn't tell you who was a jazz
person. I would just put it on Spotify
Jazz and. That's fair.
It's so easy now. It's so easy now, right?
My my son Landon, he now he's a huge music person.
We'd probably have him make the the list.
He. Knows all about music.
Yeah, you said he's great in the kitchen and he'd be putting the
the music list together. Yeah, that's.
Right, we'll put him to work. OK, so we've finished the meal.
What film would you put on at the end of the meal?
So it's, you know, I always like to say, is there a film that
would say, right, if you want to get to know Cindy a little bit
better, this is a film we're watching.
I thought everybody would do well with the pursuit of
happiness, with Will Smith all. Right.
Yeah, I've not seen that one yet.
Oh, now that was really good. Yes.
Like his little boy. And he's trying to, you know, do
better for himself. I just think that that movie
would probably resonate with every single one of my guest.
I think that if we could actually watch a movie instead
of talk, so, you know, like I think our main thing would
probably be talking, but if we got to watch a movie, I think
that would be our movie. Yeah, actually, yeah.
It's very apartment film I think, isn't it?
I think they would all appreciate it.
I'm probably sure they, you know, John Oliver and Barack
Obama, Obama have seen it. But, you know, Mr. Rogers missed
out unfortunately, but I think he would really appreciate the
film. OK.
And the final question is, if you could eat anywhere in the
world, where would it be and why?
New York, I really just like, I would want to go to.
I like, I'm like a city person. I'm not, you know, I like, I
just think there would be like so many places to eat there that
we don't have here. And we have a Sam's House of
Pizza. It's in my neighborhood and
well, not in my neighborhood, but it's, you know, in in our
area. And that guy is chicago-based
pizza and people just rave and brave about it.
And I just would like to go experience some pizza somewhere
else and some Italian food made by like real Italian people,
not, you know, people from Sims. They just experienced some
culture. No, I get that because that's
actually where I was a few weeks ago.
Me and my wife went to New York for a few days and it's just
great. You can get everything there,
you know, And because we were there many years ago and I'd
never got the, the pizza slice. And I said to her, we've got to
get, I want a pizza slice this time, you know, not a pizza, but
the, the slice. And we went to this one place
and I'd, I'd, I'd hadn't been feeling that brilliant that day.
So I only had the one slice, but it was so nice and she had one.
It was so nice. We said the next day we've got
to go back and it shut early. It was our last night and it
shut early. So we've missed it.
And so I'm like, we've got to go back again now at some point
just. I would just like to experience
like a Jewish, like a Jewish delicatessen, you know, like
that kind of thing, and just some really good New York food
because they're always talking about, you know, New York food.
New York have a hot dog, Yeah. Oh, well, you'd, you'd get it
all there. So yeah, if when you go there,
you have to, you have to come back on and let us know.
That's right. OK, well, look, well, I think
that's come to to the end of the evening.
So yeah, do you just want to do you just want to give a little
shout out and just recap your podcast again to everyone
listening before we go? Yeah.
My name is Cindy Brainard and I am the host of the Hypno
Wellness Podcast and you can listen to us everywhere that you
listen to your favorite podcast. Yeah, please do go listen.
You know, it's, it's, I don't know, but I've not heard or come
across many podcasts that, that, that, that does what you do
ultimately. So, yeah, it's, it's great.
And you've got such a nice calm and, and soothing voice as well.
So it's yeah, do and I'll, I'll be putting a link in the show
notes. So, yeah, have a look in there
and, and do subscribe. So, Cindy, thank you for being a
wonderful guest. Thank you, this was so much fun
and I had to sit there and really think about who I wanted
and why I'd want them and how I'd arranged things.
I was even like thinking about like how I'd set my table up.
What would I use? Well, if you've got that, you
could tell us. You should have said we.
No, I was like in my mind like thinking of like how I my table
and. Well, it's funny because you
know, even with the food, the guess is probably more more so.
But trying to narrow it down to like 1 starter and one main and
one set and the guest trying to pick three, It sounds like it
should be easy. But why don't you start thinking
about it? You'd say, oh, but then I could
have had that person or this person.
Yeah, I know. And you think you really start
to think about, OK, well, why would I have this person?
Who would I? I mean, the first person I
thought of was Barack. Like that he's going to be my
main one no matter what, you know?
Yeah. Like, if you could magically
wish somebody here who would be Barack Obama, he's always going
to be my number one. But I wanted my whole guest
arrangement to have fun, be funny, feel comfortable, you
know? Well, as I said, if Eva Barack
is listening or John Oliver, if you're listening, you can pop
round to Cindy's. There's there's a there's a, a
place at the table there. Or if you want to come onto the
show, we'll both talk to you on the show.
So, yeah, if anyone, if anyone listening has got their number,
let them know. All right, let's Cindy, thanks a
lot. I'm sure we'll work a way of
getting you back on again at some point in the future.
As I said, look in the show notes for the Hypno Wellness
link. And all that's left for me to
say is come back next week for another episode of Casting
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