1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,600 Hi everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Elon Musk 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Podcast where we discuss technology, entrepreneurship, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,680 space travel and everything in between. 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,960 Today we're covering a sensitive and very personal topic. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,600 The lawsuit that musician Claire Boucher, better known and by her 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,000 stage name Grimes, has filed against Elon Musk concerning the 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,480 parental rights of their three children. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,110 A petition to establish parental relationship was filed by 9 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:31,630 Grimes, which essentially seeks a court order to legally 10 00:00:31,630 --> 00:00:35,030 identify the parents of a child. This is often a prerequisite 11 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:36,390 when the parents are not married. 12 00:00:36,390 --> 00:00:40,230 And while the specifics of this filing are not public, this kind 13 00:00:40,230 --> 00:00:43,630 of petition usually accompanies requests for child support or 14 00:00:43,630 --> 00:00:46,750 custody rights. Now, let's first talk about what 15 00:00:46,750 --> 00:00:50,150 this petition to establish parental relationship means in 16 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:53,110 the legal sense. According to family attorney 17 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:57,060 Deborah Dubrov, this kind of petition is usually filed 18 00:00:57,060 --> 00:01:00,540 alongside demands for child support or custody rights. 19 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:04,379 However, at the moment, there are no accompanying filings for 20 00:01:04,379 --> 00:01:07,020 child support or custody rights in this specific case. 21 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:10,100 So why was it filed? It's not exactly clear at the 22 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:12,260 moment. Dubroff noted that the primary 23 00:01:12,260 --> 00:01:16,140 motivation for such petitions is typically to get custody orders 24 00:01:16,140 --> 00:01:19,660 or child support, which helps to legally establish the parentage 25 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:21,820 of the child or children involved. 26 00:01:22,660 --> 00:01:26,250 It's important to note that Musk and Grimes never married, but 27 00:01:26,250 --> 00:01:32,210 have had three children during the relationship X Exit Dark and 28 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:36,570 Tao Techno Mechanicus. Since they were never legal 29 00:01:36,570 --> 00:01:40,570 bound as a married couple, this petition becomes crucial for 30 00:01:40,570 --> 00:01:43,210 Grimes to establish her legal standing as a mother, 31 00:01:43,570 --> 00:01:47,170 particularly if there are disputes over custody or 32 00:01:47,170 --> 00:01:51,260 visitation in the future. Now, Musk and Grimes embarked on 33 00:01:51,260 --> 00:01:54,540 the relationship in 2018 and subsequently had three children. 34 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:57,500 Their relationship has always been subject to intense scrutiny 35 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:01,380 thanks in part to Musk's high profile ventures in Grimes own 36 00:02:01,380 --> 00:02:04,900 standing in the music industry. Though they parted ways around 37 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:08,060 September of 2021, they initially appeared to maintain a 38 00:02:08,060 --> 00:02:11,540 semblance of coparenting. However, recent public message 39 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:15,260 by Grimes on the social media platform X, which Musk owns, 40 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:18,020 indicates a shift into legal proceedings over the parental 41 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:20,950 rights to their children. Now, Grimes used the platform to 42 00:02:20,950 --> 00:02:24,350 publicly demand access to her children, which is remarkable 43 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:26,990 given that must controls the very platform she utilize for 44 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:28,990 her message. That raises the question of 45 00:02:28,990 --> 00:02:31,470 whether she sought to leverage the public nature of the 46 00:02:31,470 --> 00:02:35,430 platform to apply pressure for a resolution, or whether it was an 47 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:38,830 act of desperation. And in any case, her use of ex 48 00:02:38,830 --> 00:02:41,910 serve the catapult this private family matter into the public 49 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:45,310 domain, signaling that a resolution could not be reached 50 00:02:45,310 --> 00:02:47,830 privately. The first child from the couple, 51 00:02:48,250 --> 00:02:53,770 XA EA12, made headlines not just for being the progeny of two 52 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:57,250 high profile individuals, but also for his uniquely styled 53 00:02:57,250 --> 00:02:59,530 name. A sense of public intrigue and 54 00:02:59,530 --> 00:03:02,130 media spotlight has followed A couple's family ever since, and 55 00:03:02,130 --> 00:03:05,210 over the years the family expanded with two more children. 56 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:08,170 But it appears that keeping family matters private has 57 00:03:08,170 --> 00:03:10,970 proven challenging, and the relationship has now entered A 58 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:13,370 crucial stage that involves legal action. 59 00:03:13,850 --> 00:03:16,250 While they've kept their family matters largely away from the 60 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:19,770 public eye, the recent plea from Grimes changes the dynamic 61 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:22,330 substantially. Now the Grimes has filed a legal 62 00:03:22,330 --> 00:03:25,290 petition, their family issues can no longer be considered 63 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:27,890 private affairs. The move to formalize the 64 00:03:27,890 --> 00:03:31,690 parental relationship through the court system could be a sign 65 00:03:31,690 --> 00:03:34,210 that the two parties have reached an impasse in their 66 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:37,810 private negotiations over how to coparent their children, and it 67 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:41,130 marks a new chapter in their complicated relationship. 68 00:03:41,810 --> 00:03:44,090 Now, switching gears for a moment, let's consider another 69 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:47,540 significant factor at play, Musk's ownership of social media 70 00:03:47,540 --> 00:03:49,420 platform X. Formerly known as Twitter. 71 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:53,540 Musk acquired it for $44 billion and has since made several 72 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:55,380 controversial changes to the platform. 73 00:03:55,820 --> 00:03:58,740 He renamed it as promised to transform it into an Everything 74 00:03:58,740 --> 00:04:01,980 app that encompasses multiple functionalities. 75 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:05,260 Grimes used the platform to publicly demand access to her 76 00:04:05,260 --> 00:04:07,420 children. Now this adds another layer of 77 00:04:07,420 --> 00:04:09,660 complexity to the case. With this have played out 78 00:04:09,660 --> 00:04:12,100 differently. If Musk hadn't been in control 79 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,860 of the platform she used to make her public plea now, it's hard 80 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:18,260 to say, But it certainly raises questions about the intertwining 81 00:04:18,579 --> 00:04:22,180 of personal and professional domains in the digital age. 82 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:25,580 And Elon Musk has a complicated, familiar history. 83 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:30,140 He has been divorced three times and is the father to a whopping 84 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,380 11 children, including five from a previous marriage. 85 00:04:33,660 --> 00:04:36,140 The kids from his previous marriage are twins Griffin and 86 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:38,660 Vivian, and triplets Damien Saxon and Kai. 87 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:42,060 Musk has always been a polarizing figure, but family 88 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:45,300 matters like these at a layer of complexity to the public persona 89 00:04:45,630 --> 00:04:47,750 that many people don't often consider. 90 00:04:48,110 --> 00:04:50,830 The relationships that led to these eleven children have each 91 00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:53,390 been unique, from his relationship with Canadian 92 00:04:53,390 --> 00:04:55,990 author Justine Wilson to his current involvement with 93 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:59,710 Neurolink director Siobhan Zillis, Musk's personal life has 94 00:04:59,710 --> 00:05:02,270 been an intricate as his professional one. 95 00:05:02,590 --> 00:05:05,430 And the legal case with Grimes is the latest chapter in Musk's 96 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:08,430 complicated relationship history, and one that can have 97 00:05:08,430 --> 00:05:11,710 significant ramifications for both parties involved, 98 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:16,100 especially the children. Now, the pressing question now 99 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:19,540 is what happens next. Legal proceedings like these can 100 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:22,620 take time and can be emotionally taxing for all parties involved. 101 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,020 Musk has not yet responded to Grimes petition, according to 102 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:29,380 reports, and it's a sensitive topic that combines legal 103 00:05:29,380 --> 00:05:32,740 complexity with the emotional intricacies of family dynamics. 104 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:37,500 Grimes attorney Samantha Blade Jean has not yet provided a 105 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:40,580 comment, and it remains to be seen how Musk will respond. 106 00:05:41,130 --> 00:05:43,690 And regardless of the outcome, the legal action is an example 107 00:05:43,690 --> 00:05:46,690 of the complexities that it can arise in relationships that are 108 00:05:46,690 --> 00:05:49,930 in the public eye, further complicated by the blurred lines 109 00:05:49,930 --> 00:05:52,170 between personal and professional platforms like 110 00:05:52,170 --> 00:05:54,330 social media. Now we're focusing on Elon 111 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:58,810 Musk's recent venture into live streaming via X, the social 112 00:05:58,810 --> 00:06:01,130 media platform formerly known as Twitter. 113 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:06,090 Recently, Elon Musk spent an evening playing Diablo 4, giving 114 00:06:06,090 --> 00:06:09,610 the public a glimpse into how he unwinds after his work hours. 115 00:06:09,930 --> 00:06:13,230 Now, more importantly, the experience doubled as a trial 116 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:16,750 for X's new live streaming feature, which could potentially 117 00:06:16,750 --> 00:06:20,430 extend the platform's reach into the lucrative world of online 118 00:06:20,430 --> 00:06:23,270 gaming. And Elon Musk has never been 119 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:25,150 secretive about his love for video games. 120 00:06:25,150 --> 00:06:28,710 In a recent event, he took this affinity to a new level by 121 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:32,270 showcasing his gaming setup while testing X's new live 122 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:35,350 streaming feature. In a setup snapshot shared a day 123 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:38,910 before the live stream, Musk presented a Logitech mouse and a 124 00:06:38,910 --> 00:06:42,310 massive Curbed monitor as part of his gaming arsenal. 125 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:45,510 The atmosphere was set by a large candle that lit the room 126 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:48,910 and Elon perched in a razor gaming chair, setting the mood 127 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:53,470 for a deep dive into Diablo 4. Now what this reveals is more 128 00:06:53,470 --> 00:06:55,710 than just Musk's passion for gaming. 129 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:58,750 This is a man who also spends non working hours with his 130 00:06:58,750 --> 00:07:00,910 friends or children. And according to Walter 131 00:07:00,910 --> 00:07:04,970 Isaacson's biography, he has even played Eldon Ring until 132 00:07:04,970 --> 00:07:08,450 5:30 AM. It's a holistic view of Musk, 133 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:11,290 the entrepreneur who also knows how to unwind. 134 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:14,890 Now, as with any new technology, there are kinks to work out. 135 00:07:15,210 --> 00:07:19,010 This 1st 10 minutes of the live stream were not entirely smooth. 136 00:07:19,690 --> 00:07:24,210 Musk kept checking with Shivan Sillis, a Nerve Link executive 137 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:27,010 and the mother of two of his children, to confirm if the feed 138 00:07:27,010 --> 00:07:29,730 was live. It's currently way too hard to 139 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:31,850 do this. It took like hours to set this 140 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:36,120 up, so we need to make it just effortless, Musk commented. 141 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,600 What's notable here is Elon Musk's emphasis on user 142 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,560 experience. He's clearly aware that for live 143 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,800 streaming to be viable on X, it has to be as simple as possible 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,640 for the users. So while this may have been a 145 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,240 test, it was also an exploratory mission into how to simplify and 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,520 perfect the experience for a broader audience. 147 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Now during the stream must clarify the unique feature of 148 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,140 X's live streaming capabilities. Only a user subscribers can 149 00:08:04,140 --> 00:08:06,940 comment during the live stream. Compared to platforms like 150 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:09,660 Twitch, where streamers have the option to allow comments from 151 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:14,980 everyone or just subscribers, X is going to be more focused on 152 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:18,260 interaction. Now Elon Musk seemed to endorse 153 00:08:18,260 --> 00:08:21,140 this feature, stating it allows for a more direct conversation 154 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:23,420 among subscribers. It offers a controlled 155 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:26,540 environment where discussions can happen without the often 156 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:29,820 overwhelming and distracting noise found in more open 157 00:08:29,820 --> 00:08:32,200 commenting system. This could be appealing for 158 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,679 influencers or business leaders who prefer a more curated 159 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,600 interaction with their audience. And the business implications 160 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,240 for X are becoming increasingly interesting, especially with 161 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,240 notable investors like Bill Ackman throwing their hats into 162 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,280 the ring. Ackman recently revealed that 163 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,880 he's already a supporter of X through a $10 million investment 164 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,680 via his firm's foundation. He further expressed interest in 165 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:01,530 possibly taking X Corp public. Though there hasn't been direct 166 00:09:01,530 --> 00:09:04,930 communication with Musk on this matter as of yet, Ackman's 167 00:09:04,930 --> 00:09:07,170 interest underscores the transformation that X is 168 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:09,570 undergoing. His investment firm, Pershing 169 00:09:09,570 --> 00:09:12,730 Square, received regulatory approval for a new class of 170 00:09:12,730 --> 00:09:17,170 special purpose acquisition companies known as Sparc or 171 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:21,930 Spark, and with this investment, Ackman could commit as much as 172 00:09:21,930 --> 00:09:25,330 $2 billion to a transaction involving X. 173 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:28,990 This shows not only his faith in the platform's potential, but 174 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:31,870 also indicates that big financial moves could be on the 175 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:34,550 horizon for Elon Musk's social media platform. 176 00:09:35,150 --> 00:09:38,310 Now it's not worthy that Ackman perceives acts as a very 177 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:41,750 difficult to disrupt asset. He has seen first hand. 178 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:44,510 The approve as Musk has made to the platform and believes that 179 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:47,630 it could diversify into various lines of business. 180 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:51,390 With live streaming now added to access feature set, the platform 181 00:09:51,390 --> 00:09:54,790 seems to be expanding beyond its original scope, becoming a more 182 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:56,910 versatile player in the digital space. 183 00:09:57,450 --> 00:10:00,690 And while Ackman's plans are still in the hypothetical stage, 184 00:10:00,930 --> 00:10:03,530 his words carry significant weight in the investment 185 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:06,210 community. Should a deal between Musk and 186 00:10:06,210 --> 00:10:09,250 Ackman materialize, it would signify a strong vote of 187 00:10:09,250 --> 00:10:11,450 confidence in the evolving vision for X. 188 00:10:11,770 --> 00:10:14,330 It can provide the much needed financial backing to tackle the 189 00:10:14,330 --> 00:10:18,210 platform's existing challenges, including a considerable debt 190 00:10:18,210 --> 00:10:22,130 load, thereby setting the stage for X's new growth chapter. 191 00:10:22,290 --> 00:10:26,620 Now, even as X explores these new streaming frontiers, it 192 00:10:26,620 --> 00:10:29,660 faces substantial challenges. Among these are crushing debt 193 00:10:29,660 --> 00:10:33,980 load and fierce competition from platforms like Meta, who already 194 00:10:33,980 --> 00:10:37,420 have live streaming on most of their platforms. 195 00:10:37,820 --> 00:10:41,220 Advertising dollars have not yet returned to pre acquisition 196 00:10:41,220 --> 00:10:45,740 levels and despite new CEO Linda Yonkarino's reputation, the 197 00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:47,860 financial metrics are struggling. 198 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:51,420 However, let's not forget that Elon Musk specializes in solving 199 00:10:51,420 --> 00:10:53,340 hard problems. SpaceX. 200 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:55,700 Tesla. He's always up for a challenge, 201 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,760 and with Akman possibly providing a financial boost in 202 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Musk's ingenuity, Musk might just find a way to redefine 203 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,640 social media and earn a profit. Now that wraps up another 204 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,360 episode of the Elon Musk Podcast. 205 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,320 We've covered a lot today, Elon Musk's foray into live streaming 206 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,200 and gaming and the future of business prospects for X. 207 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:19,560 And we bring you these episodes every single day. 208 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:22,360 So if you want to know what's going on in any of Elon Musk's 209 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,560 companies, we do it in under 10 minutes. 210 00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:27,420 So if you enjoy the show, don't forget to hit the subscribe or 211 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:29,420 follow button on your preferred podcast platform. 212 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:33,020 It's free, only takes a second. Next we'll be talking about Elon 213 00:11:33,020 --> 00:11:36,740 Musk's recent visit to the US Mexico border, where he met with 214 00:11:36,740 --> 00:11:40,220 local politicians and law enforcement to get an unfiltered 215 00:11:40,220 --> 00:11:42,620 view of the ongoing immigration crisis. 216 00:11:42,860 --> 00:11:46,420 Now, Elon's visit comes at a time where there has been a 217 00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:48,980 sharp increase in the number of migrants crossing into the 218 00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:52,620 United States, particularly through Texas and California. 219 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:55,980 And in today's episodes, we'll discuss Elon stance on US 220 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:59,020 immigration reform, the political implications of his 221 00:11:59,020 --> 00:12:03,180 visit and his confrontation with German authorities on their 222 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:05,900 handling of Mediterranean migration. 223 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:08,620 And finally, the technical hiccups that interrupted his 224 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:13,020 live streaming attempt on X, the social media platform he owns. 225 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:17,060 Now Elon Musk, known for his ventures like SpaceX, Tesla and 226 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:19,960 social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter, took 227 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,960 a trip to the Texas, Mexico border recently to gain first 228 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,120 hand experience of the situation down there. 229 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:30,400 It shows Eagle Pass as his destination location, where many 230 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,760 migrants have been crossing the Rio Grande River. 231 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Now dressed in his casual ensemble of a black tshirt 232 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,750 cowboy hat and aviator glasses, Musk was clearly there to make a 233 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:41,910 statement. His commentary on the situation 234 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:45,590 was disseminated through a video selfie posted on X. 235 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:49,390 He suggested a twopronged approach for overhauling the US 236 00:12:49,390 --> 00:12:53,990 immigration system, advocating for expedited legal approval any 237 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:58,270 larger legal immigration system. Musk also emphasized that while 238 00:12:58,270 --> 00:13:01,910 the system should welcome hardworking and honest migrants, 239 00:13:02,190 --> 00:13:05,920 it should simultaneously prevent illegal entry, he said. 240 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,880 I'm an immigrant to the United States. 241 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:12,240 I am extremely pro immigrant. But we need a system that works, 242 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,160 not one that is on the verge of collapse. 243 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Now, Elon is no stranger to American politics, having 244 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,360 previously hosted the presidential campaign launch for 245 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,640 Florida Governor Rob DeSantis on X, his social media platform 246 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Formerly known as Twitter. Musk has been actively involved 247 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,460 in various political dialogues, and during his border visit he 248 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:35,420 was accompanied by US Representative Tony Gonzalez, a 249 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:38,380 Republican whose district stretches across a very 250 00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:41,820 significant portion of the Texas, Mexico border. 251 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:45,060 Gonzalez welcome Musk's presence, stating that people 252 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:48,460 along the border really feel abandoned, and the collaboration 253 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:51,500 raises questions about whether Musk is intending to influence 254 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:55,100 policy or simply highlight an issue that he believes is not 255 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:58,740 receiving enough attention. Now, the visit has both domestic 256 00:13:58,780 --> 00:14:02,440 and international implications, especially given Musk's 257 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,000 interaction with global leaders like Ukrainian officials and 258 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 259 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Elon Musk's interactions concerning immigration issues 260 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,800 aren't confined to US soil, they extend to international waters 261 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,920 as well. And recently, he criticized 262 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,360 German humanitarian efforts in the Mediterranean, specifically 263 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,760 their operation of migrant rescue ships. 264 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,920 And Musk brought this matter to public attention by sharing a 265 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,550 video that showed migrants and aid workers on a boat, posing 266 00:14:31,550 --> 00:14:34,870 the question as to whether the German public was aware of these 267 00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:36,790 activities. And the video had originally 268 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:39,990 been posted by a right wing account praising the far right 269 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:44,590 alternative for German party, which has been quite stringent 270 00:14:44,590 --> 00:14:47,950 on migration issues and in response to German Federal 271 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:51,470 Foreign Office asserted that what the humanitarian groups 272 00:14:51,470 --> 00:14:55,350 were doing was simply saving lives just led to a direct 273 00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:58,430 exchange between Musk and the Foreign Office, sparking an 274 00:14:58,430 --> 00:15:00,470 international conversation on the subject. 275 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,680 Must question the legality and ethicality of the operations, 276 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,520 casting doubt on whether they had the support of the German 277 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 populace. He also made a contentious 278 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,600 statement regarding these operations having invasion 279 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,920 vibes, especially as they might infringe upon Italy's 280 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,120 sovereignty. Now this interaction reveals a 281 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,440 few key facets of Musk's stance on immigration. 282 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,840 First, it showcases that his concerns are global in nature 283 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,160 and not merely focused on the United States. 284 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:30,780 Second, he's willing to confront governmental entities directly, 285 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:33,620 a tactic that can make discussions about these issues 286 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:35,740 more public and potentially contentious. 287 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:39,820 In the exchange with the German authorities, therefore serve not 288 00:15:39,820 --> 00:15:43,020 only to highlight a particular issue, but also to shed light on 289 00:15:43,020 --> 00:15:46,540 Musk's broader approach to engaging in international policy 290 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:48,980 dialogue. So the confrontation with the 291 00:15:48,980 --> 00:15:52,430 German Federal Foreign Office reflects Musk's willingness to 292 00:15:52,430 --> 00:15:55,110 tackle these complex and controversial issues head on, 293 00:15:55,390 --> 00:15:57,910 and using his platform and public persona to generate 294 00:15:57,910 --> 00:16:01,190 discussion and possibly influence public opinion. 295 00:16:01,710 --> 00:16:04,870 It also adds another layer to understanding his involvement in 296 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:08,230 migration issues, showing that he's attuned to the complexities 297 00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:11,430 and intricacies that accompany this global dilemma. 298 00:16:11,790 --> 00:16:15,350 Now, Musk aimed to engage in civil journalism by live 299 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:18,870 streaming his border visit on X, formerly known as Twitter. 300 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:23,260 However, the endeavor ran into some technical issues, with the 301 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:26,580 stream freezing after about four minutes. 302 00:16:26,580 --> 00:16:30,260 The hiccup exposed the limitations of X live streaming 303 00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:33,100 caabilities, especially given that the stream had garnered 304 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:36,500 about 5 million viewers over those 4 minutes. 305 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:39,780 Musk's frustration with the situation was evident as he sent 306 00:16:39,780 --> 00:16:43,220 an e-mail to everyone at X demanding a fix. 307 00:16:43,340 --> 00:16:47,180 Although a second 13 minute live stream later ran more smoothly, 308 00:16:47,260 --> 00:16:50,460 the initial glitches left many wondering about X's readiness 309 00:16:50,460 --> 00:16:52,860 for such high profile live streaming events. 310 00:16:53,020 --> 00:16:58,010 And with the upcoming SpaceX Starship I FT-2 event that will 311 00:16:58,090 --> 00:17:02,690 only be streamed on X, and all SpaceX launches are only 312 00:17:02,690 --> 00:17:06,730 streamed on X now, no longer on YouTube, we may be seeing some 313 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:11,089 glitchy streams in the future. Now in the broader scheme though 314 00:17:11,369 --> 00:17:15,210 Inland, Musk's foray into the US immigration debate is not just a 315 00:17:15,210 --> 00:17:17,650 Oneoff event, but part of a larger pattern where the 316 00:17:17,690 --> 00:17:21,240 entrepreneur is increasingly leveraging his platforms and his 317 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,720 influence to participate in social and political 318 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,440 discussions. Whether this will lead to 319 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,640 tangible changes in policy or public opinion remains to be 320 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,200 seen, but it certainly cements Musk's role as a highprofile 321 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,680 commenter on issues beyond technology and entrepreneurship. 322 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,440 Musk's interest in immigration issues, both domestic and 323 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,280 international, could have various repercussions given his 324 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,320 global reach and his influence. Now, how this will impact his 325 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,400 businesses like Tesla and SpaceX, both of which have 326 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,440 significant operations in Texas or a social media platform X, is 327 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,120 still an open question. Now, thank you so much for 328 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,920 tuning into this episode of the Elon Musk podcast today. 329 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,440 We hope you found this episode insightful and delightful. 330 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,800 Now don't forget to hit the subscribe or follow button on 331 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,520 the podcast platform you're listening on right now. 332 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,040 It's free and just takes a moment. 333 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,280 So please take care of yourselves and each other, and 334 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,800 I'll see you in the next one. In this section, we'll be 335 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,880 examining the social media platform X, formerly known as 336 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Twitter. It's embattled CEO Linda 337 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,910 Yocarino, and how this all ties back to Elon Musk. 338 00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:26,350 The story's making headlines, and not always for the best 339 00:18:26,350 --> 00:18:29,230 reasons. The media has often portrayed X 340 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:32,790 as a sinking ship, especially after some intense public 341 00:18:32,790 --> 00:18:36,870 interviews and Elon Musk's own contentious posts. 342 00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:40,230 But is this narrative fair or even accurate? 343 00:18:40,910 --> 00:18:44,030 Might have seen Linda Yakirino's interviews at Code Conference in 344 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:48,330 the first conference where she defended her performance of the 345 00:18:48,330 --> 00:18:50,970 platform immense A slew of critical questions and 346 00:18:50,970 --> 00:18:53,330 skepticisms. These public appearances have 347 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:55,810 triggered debates about her credibility, her relationship 348 00:18:55,810 --> 00:18:58,530 with the Elon Musk, and the future of the platform she's in 349 00:18:58,530 --> 00:19:00,970 charge of. So let's unpack the situation. 350 00:19:01,170 --> 00:19:04,570 We'll look into what Yakarino revealed about X's user 351 00:19:04,570 --> 00:19:08,210 engagement and revenue metrics, as well as the aftermath of her 352 00:19:08,210 --> 00:19:11,010 public interviews. Along the way, we'll tackle some 353 00:19:11,010 --> 00:19:14,410 key questions. Is X really a fading platform? 354 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,800 How are corporate communications and public relations playing a 355 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,840 role in shaping the perception of X? 356 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,360 And finally, can X, under Yakorino's leadership and Elon 357 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:28,080 Musk's ownership, navigate through these turbulent waters? 358 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,120 Linda Yakorino recently dropped some numbers during her 359 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,160 interviews. This seemed to contradict the 360 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,400 dying platform narrative. She mentioned that people are 361 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,080 spending 14% more time on X. Video consumption has risen by 362 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,100 20%. Quite interestingly, Gen. 363 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,780 Z is the largest and fastest growing segment on the platform, 364 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:52,540 with nearly 200 million people logging in per month now. 365 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:55,220 What's more, Yacorino highlighted that the platform 366 00:19:55,220 --> 00:19:58,620 clocks around 100 billion impressions every day and sees 367 00:19:58,620 --> 00:20:03,700 about 500,000,000 posts. User signups have seen a 4% year 368 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:07,540 over year increase. So while X may not be a TikTok 369 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:11,060 or an Instagram, it's not exactly gasping for air either. 370 00:20:11,530 --> 00:20:14,730 And this leaves us, Padre. Other reports of X's demise 371 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:17,330 exaggerated? Are the media and critics 372 00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:19,730 missing the forest for the trees now? 373 00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:22,930 Kathleen Schmidt, a veteran PR expert, criticize Yakurino for 374 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:25,970 appearing uninformed and unprepared during her public 375 00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:30,250 interviews, particularly about Elon Musk's plan for X. 376 00:20:30,610 --> 00:20:33,330 And the lack of coordination with communications. 377 00:20:33,330 --> 00:20:37,370 And the strategy became evident with Yakurino seemed unsure of 378 00:20:37,450 --> 00:20:41,290 Elon's ideas about transitioning the platform to a subscription 379 00:20:41,290 --> 00:20:44,850 based model. Jeffrey Knoff, a CEO of Spartan 380 00:20:44,850 --> 00:20:49,930 Media, and Kelsey Kintner of Red Banyan Crisis PR, also weighed 381 00:20:49,930 --> 00:20:51,690 in. They mentioned the importance of 382 00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:54,450 being In Sync with the company's overreaching communication 383 00:20:54,450 --> 00:20:57,370 strategy, especially when working under a disruptive 384 00:20:57,370 --> 00:21:01,170 figure like Elon Musk now. According to them, Yakorino's 385 00:21:01,170 --> 00:21:05,050 performance indicated that the messaging between Elon and 386 00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:08,350 herself needs to be aligned. However, it's worth mentioning 387 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:12,750 that Yacorino is relatively new to the role, with just 12 weeks 388 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:15,430 under her belt. The post interview backlash 389 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:18,030 Lindy Yacorino underscores a critical issue. 390 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:22,030 There is clearly a gap of communication between both Ex 391 00:21:22,110 --> 00:21:25,710 and Elon Musk, and when it comes to the public perception, she 392 00:21:25,710 --> 00:21:29,590 may be on a different page and critics latched onto Yacorino 393 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:33,350 stumbles during the interview as evidence of her inability to run 394 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:36,250 the company. However, it's worth considering 395 00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:39,850 the role of a clear and cohesive internal communication strategy, 396 00:21:40,130 --> 00:21:43,130 or the lack thereof, in shaping her responses. 397 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:47,730 An unaligned communication plan may have been the reason she was 398 00:21:47,730 --> 00:21:50,850 left floundering during the interview with no concrete 399 00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:53,970 answers to provide. While Linda Yakorino seem less 400 00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:57,330 than prepared, it's worth noting that being a CEO under Elon 401 00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:59,130 Musk's ownership is no simple task. 402 00:21:59,370 --> 00:22:02,770 He's known for thinking outside the box and pushing the envelope 403 00:22:02,770 --> 00:22:06,140 and doing some crazy things. Sometimes this creates A dynamic 404 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:08,620 and sometimes volatile environment where aligning 405 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:12,540 corporate messages and strategic decisions can be like hitting a 406 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:15,140 moving target. And Yacorino may have had 407 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:18,380 limited insight into upcoming changes and strategies which 408 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:23,180 made her seem unresponsive and inadequate during the interview. 409 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:26,460 Another layer to this discussion is Yacorino's relatively short 410 00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:29,260 tenure at the helm. She's been in the CEO position 411 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:32,750 for about 12 weeks now, and critics argue that sufficient 412 00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:35,630 time to have a grip on the company's operations in future 413 00:22:35,630 --> 00:22:38,630 direction. It's not that much now, however. 414 00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:41,510 It's also fair to say that three months isn't a long time to 415 00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:45,270 absorb the intricacies and multifaceted platform like X, 416 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:48,750 especially one that's seeing its metrics fluctuate and it's 417 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:52,750 public image in constant flux. And the key take away here is 418 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:55,390 that Linda Yakorino's performance raised eyebrows. 419 00:22:55,670 --> 00:22:58,790 It might be symptomatic of larger issues with an X rather 420 00:22:58,790 --> 00:23:00,550 than a personal failing on her part. 421 00:23:01,070 --> 00:23:04,350 If the communication channels were unclear or misaligned, it 422 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:07,070 would have been difficult for her or anyone else in her 423 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:09,150 position to present a unified front. 424 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:12,390 And this suggests that as much as leadership qualities are 425 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:15,470 essential, the systems in place for clear and consistent 426 00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:18,670 communication with the company are equally critical for its 427 00:23:18,670 --> 00:23:20,790 success in its public perception. 428 00:23:21,390 --> 00:23:25,830 Now, what is next for X? Despite these setbacks, it's 429 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:28,630 important to remember that turning around a platform like X 430 00:23:29,090 --> 00:23:31,450 is not an overnight job. It's not going to happen within 431 00:23:31,450 --> 00:23:33,890 a week or so. With a polarized public 432 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:37,410 perception in a turbulent media environment, the road ahead for 433 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:40,090 X in Yacorino is undeniably challenging. 434 00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:43,210 But this journey also offers unique opportunities for 435 00:23:43,210 --> 00:23:45,610 innovation and growth, especially considering the 436 00:23:45,610 --> 00:23:49,090 numbers Yacorino presented. It's worth mentioning that Elon 437 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:52,450 Musk is not one to focus on shortterm bumps. 438 00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:55,890 If Yacorino can get her communication strategy In Sync 439 00:23:55,890 --> 00:23:59,660 with Elons, and if the platform continues to grow as her metrics 440 00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:03,340 suggest, then perhaps the critics will have to reevaluate 441 00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:06,820 their stances. Maybe, just maybe, X will prove 442 00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,260 to be more resilient than some people think. 443 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:12,500 I thank you so much for tuning into the Elon Musk podcast 444 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:14,340 today. 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